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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody. It's the In This League Fantasy Football Podcast.

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I'm your host, Scott Bogman, and today I'm joined by

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my brother Debro at debro f Underscore FFB on the

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Twitter Machine, Derek Brown, one of my co workers over

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at Fantasy Pros. We are going to talk about numbers

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that we love and hate on today's show, Debro, My man,

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how's the summer treating you? My friend?

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Speaker 2: It's good, dude. I'm in the thick of it. I'm

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currently still grinding out my top two hundred, so you

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know all my two hundred write ups that I'll have

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live on the site before you know, Big Draft weekend

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of the summer and stuff. But you know, been getting

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through all the other types of content that a're all

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live at Fantasy Bros. And the draft kit and stuff.

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That's the last big hurdle. But you know, it's an

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interesting time of the summer, man. You know, we're right

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at the precipice of training camps opening and things really

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getting wild before preseason football and stuff. But it's a

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good time. Dude, How are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty good. It is. We are like right

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on the precipice of it. As you as you talk,

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you know, we are going to the rankings kind of

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get stagnant. I feel like in this last four to

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six weeks there's a little news that pops up here

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and there that we see after the draft, the draft

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and the rookie camps and all that. But once camp's open,

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we're gonna see who's in, who's not playing that we

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thought maybe would be playing, who is healthier than we expected,

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who is winning jobs that we didn't expect to win jobs.

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All that kind of stuff is coming up and rankings

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will start to move more.

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Speaker 2: Then. So to your point, though, I will say this,

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and I think it tails into this show perfectly. As

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I've gotten deeper and I've been writing up certain players,

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and you kind of take a look under the hood

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of like the reality of what happened in twenty twenty six,

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and you kind of peel back the curtain a little bit.

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I will say that I have been adjusting my rankings

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as I'm going through write ups, and there'll be certain

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stats where I'm like, oh, once I get to a

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player and I write them up and I do the

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deep dive, I'm like, I feel a little bit different

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than maybe I did a week ago before I got

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to the write up in some of these stats, some

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of these I mean, we're gonna lay out here perfectly

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of like some guys I have moved up or moved

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down based off of what I've found in research.

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Speaker 3: Deeper dive, deeper appreciation always will change your opinion a

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little bit less. It makes the players a little bit

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less gray than they are, you know what I mean,

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which is what we want. We want more black and white.

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But I do think that we get into black and

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white camps around this part. Like you've heard the talking

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points a lot during the off season, uh So I

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feel like camps have been built. There's more people talking

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about these players than ever has been before.

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Speaker 2: Right, Echo chamber, baby, echo chamber. And if you go

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against the echo chamber, you're an idiot or a clown.

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Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't really matter anything we put on

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the on Twitter, Someone's gonna call us an idiot. Yeah,

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of course someone's gonna agree with us, and someone's gonna

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call U an idiot. That's just how the space works

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at this point, which is.

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Speaker 2: Social media in six baby in a nutshell, taking a.

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Speaker 3: Hard time not to get used to that, but it is,

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you know, it is just the way it works. You know.

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Twitter can be assessedbol but it can also be very

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nice at times. So, but we're going to talk about

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some stats about some players we love and hate. So

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debro Let's dive right in here. Who is first on

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the players that you love? Who are you loving right now?

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And give me some stats to back it up?

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Speaker 2: My friend, So, James Cook, I absolutely adore this year

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because I feel like there's so much innate value in

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where he's being drafted and what it looks like. I

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think James Cook has top three upside And this isn't

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just like going off the heels of last year. And

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so I'm going to lay out the case like I

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was on a show previous this week with the whole

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Fantasy Points crew and we were kind of laying out

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of our cases of like differing varying guys outside of

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the chalk that could be the RB one overall in

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to be in that top three conversation with maybe an opportunity,

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hit right right, but the big thing for James Cook

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and we look at like, you know, I could throw

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out a bunch of different stats like we like, you

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have to be a high volume back, you have to

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be in a really good freaking offense. Okay, so the

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both those boxes are checked. The stat that I want

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to unearth here, though, Scott, is that Pete Carmichael coming

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in as offensive coordator I think is a massive, massive

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boon to his passing game usage. You look over the

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ten years or excuse me, basically every single year templus

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hears like in New Orleans as the OC for the Saints,

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Carmichael's offense is never ranked lower than tenth in target

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chair to the running back position. And I know everybody's

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gonna hear that, and they're gonna say, Okay, hold up,

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stat bro, You're you're conflating two different things. You just

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gave a Sean Payton stat but you think it's a

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Pete Carmichael stat. Oh but contrere monfrera. Two years with

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Pete Carmichael without Sean Payton in New Orleans still ninth

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and tenth in target chair to the running back position.

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Speaker 3: Also the touching three by the way, like they're also

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the same branch, so they're gonna be similar.

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Speaker 2: And Joe Brady is from a lot like he his

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tutelage was under Sean Payton too, like he spent time

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in New Orleans and stuff. So you you look at

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all of this and then you stack it up against

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when Buffalo has done three years with James Cook in

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the backfield target shairs to running backs that ranked twelfth, sixteenth,

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and twenty third. So the question for me is is

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not if James Cook gets a bump in the passing game,

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it's how much and if he can step into being

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out of that like fifty seven percent snapshare that he

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had last year and into the sixty to sixty five

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percent range. And I'm not even saying, Okay, fine, take

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some of the early down rushing stuff off of his plate,

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load him up with the freaking targets. Let's get the

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pass game going. And if that all happens this year, Bodman,

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pass game stuff. Like, if he gets that bump, he

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could be a top three back that you're drafting at

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Speaker 3: I like this call out because my thought on James

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Cook is that he's a high floor guy, like and

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he's a high floor guy because of the touchdowns that

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he has provided with Josh Allen as the quarterback. Right

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so I have him at RB five. I believe his

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current ECR is RB five. It is in tier two.

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the top three of your army?

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Speaker 2: I have him RB three right now. I have him

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RB three.

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Speaker 3: CMC and Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Then I have him to get ahead of CMC and Taylor,

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and I have CMC pushed up into an area of

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the first round where people will still get access to him.

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But I want to be very cognizant of like I'm

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trying to embody or I guess like like a little

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bit of the risk that stands with CMC while also

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like kind of shaving it enough to where if people

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want to because I think CMC is a binary decision.

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It's like, if he stays healthy, he's the top two back.

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If he doesn't get if he doesn't stay healthy, then

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then you're screwed. I want I want exposure to him,

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and I want people to get exposure to him, but

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I also want to project the people that like, I'm

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over the moon for James Cook this year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I think I did think that you had

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CMC on your hate initially, but I don't think I

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see hm no no, no, no, no, okay, okay, I my mistake.

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Speaker 2: But no, I had CMC originally on this list, Like

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when we were talking prepping for this show, I actually

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had CMC on my love list, okay, because there's some

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very interesting metrics that we could dive through about CMC.

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But you know, alas for another day, my friend.

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Speaker 3: And Also, I think you're right. I think the the

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point on CMC is exclusively binary, right it is? Are you?

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It's the four hundred touches you're either out because of

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the four hundred touches or you say I don't care

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about four hundred touches. They didn't play it all in

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the playoffs. And he was amazing last year after getting

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this stem cell thing in Germany. After seeing what he

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did after getting that, I'm like, why aren't we all

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getting this? You know what I mean? Like a dude

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with an injury history as prolific as CMCs to stay

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healthy at this age with insane usage that Shanahan still

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gives him was somewhat surprising. And I still have CMC

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at three. But I love this extra point about James

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Cook is how I consider it is. Look, he already

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gives you the floor with the touchdowns, and he might he's.

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Speaker 2: Giving you the ceiling case.

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Speaker 3: Dude, you are absolutely my first love. Here, I'm going

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to talk about Omari and Hampton, who was fourth inside

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the five percentage for his team at eighty percent of

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the carries. The only two running backs that were higher

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than Omarian Hampton last season were Derrick Henry and Ashton

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Genty and right now his ECR is currently at RB ten.

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I know some people are kind of waffly because he

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missed games last year. But a lot of people are

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positive because Mike McDaniel's coming over, and I think that's

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the point I agree with. Out of fifty nine qualified

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running backs from Fantasy Points, he was eighth and explosive

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run percentage it's six point five percent six point five percent,

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and explosive yard it's total for him was thirty five

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point four percent. He was eighth in first read among

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running backs, which is eight point nine percent, and tenth

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in team targets at eleven point four percent. He was

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twentieth and miss tackles forced per attempt, which is way

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higher than his you know, carries because he only played

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in nine games. So for o'mari and Hampton here, I

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think it is going to be. Uh, it is going

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to be a very impressive season. I think people are

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still sleeping a little bit on him, and I just

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want to I just want to put myself in the

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camp of Marian Hampton because I do have him in

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my second tier running backs. My second tier goes from

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four to ten here, right, I do have him at

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the bottom of it. But even at the bottom, I

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think Omari and Hampton is going to be this season.

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Where do you have Hampton.

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Speaker 2: Rings RB eight bead of me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No.

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm in on Hampton because I've think, dude,

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I think Hampton is just an upside swing. If he

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truly hits, he's gonna he's gonna be the one of

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the guys that you could draft that shifts league like

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he's a difference maker if he does. And that's that's

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you know, it's not that like I'm just willing to

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after years and years of playing fantasy, I don't give

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a crap about a player's floor. I care about their ceiling.

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And because if they hit their ceiling, am I willing

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to ingest the risk? Sure, totally willing to do that

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because if Hampton and this goes Randy player, if I

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see the ceiling case of him, and if I feel

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like it's one of these players that if they hit

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their ceiling they can flip leagues, then I'm willing to

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sit here and be uber aggressive about it. And Hampton's

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one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely who is your second love here?

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Speaker 2: So I'll start this off with if I just take

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the name out of it, and I tell you this

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wide receiver amongst one hundred and nine qualifying wide receivers

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was third in route win rate in eighth and separation.

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People would be like, oh, I really want to draft

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that guy. I am sure that he's probably like a

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wide receiver one or wide receiver two in ranks. Okay, well,

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if I were to expand that too, this same wide

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receiver amongst those hundred and nine qualifying wide receiver, Scott

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was also twenty third in yards per route run, twentieth

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in yards per route run against man, sixth, then route

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win rate against man, third in separation against zone, and

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oh guy, hey, look at that second in route win

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rate against zone. So basically every single per route metric

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he was in the top twenty four and for most

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of them inside of the top ten. And yet this

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is the year that everybody's like, you know what, I'm good.

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I don't need to draft Ricky Piersoll. It's all good, like,

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don't really want to have that guy on my team.

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And I'm like, okay, I get it. You got burned

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in the first two years because of injuries, and the

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poor dude got shot. But if we're talking about talent

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and upside in situation and buying into good offenses, and

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especially buying into players when they were a discount now

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because everybody's like, oh I got crashed in two years

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by having him, and now you can get him as

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a wide receiver three or four in every single draft.

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Count me all in.

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Speaker 3: Scott, I think, because I only have him one spot

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ahead of ECR here because it's ECR forty four, I

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haven't which might sound like last I'm.

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Speaker 2: Ahead is man, I have met wide receiver thirty six.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so on low Land wide receiver three.

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Speaker 2: Depending on how things go, Like, I truly think the

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conversation for Ricky Piersoll starts at like wide receiver twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that so like it's almost fringe. Yeah, and I

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understand that there's a lot of upside here with Ricky Piersaw.

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And I think beyond just the numbers that you gave us,

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let's think about volume. Because volume is the most important

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number in fantasy, right. You get the most uh, you

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get the most opportunities to make something happen, even if

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you're not efficient. If you get more cracks at it,

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the more likely you are to rip off a big

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one or make a big play or something like that.

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The volume is king, and he definitely is going to

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have that this season. We have you know, CMC is

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going to get his usage, but he's getting older and

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he's coming off four hundred touches. We can't do this

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again and expect the guy of his age to stay

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healthy the entire season. So that's point number one. Point

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number two, When is George Kittle coming back? And when

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is he going to look completely effective and back to

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George Kittle? Probably not in twenty twenty six, to be

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completely honest with you. And then we have Mike Evans,

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who's the big dog here who I love. I love

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Mike Evans. I love it two seasons in a row.

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And of course the big part that everyone looks over.

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Put your tinfoil hat on, is this electric center behind

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the I'm just screaming there. I don't believe it.

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Speaker 2: You know how I feel about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all conspiracy. There's so uh you know, look,

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I there is so much ceiling for Ricky Piersaw, Dude,

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if he can be my first wide receiver on the

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bench or my flex option, that's exactly where I want him.

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That is where he's out of value. I think as

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a wide receiver. Three I'm a little more queasy. But

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like you said, the upside is probably wide receiver two,

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potentially even higher. This the guy who's a first round pick.

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We know brock perty is a good quarterback once he

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gets rolling and stays healthy, So I really like this

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call out as well. My second love here, I'm going

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to talk about Zay Flowers, who I know some people

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are probably tired of hearing me talk about. But out

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of ninety seven qualified wide receivers, he was third in

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team yards last season at thirty six point one percent.

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Only JSN and Puka Nakua were higher, and he's currently

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ECR wide receiver sixteen. He was fifth in separation score overall.

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He was seventh in wide reh in points in half

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and full PPR, fourteenth in points per game in half,

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thirteenth in PPR, seventh in yards per route run, ninth

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in yards per target, twenty second in targets per route run,

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seventh in win percentage. He was second in miss tackles

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force among wide receivers, eighth in miss tackles force per reception,

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tenth in YAK, eighteenth in YAK per catch, eighth in

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yards per target over expected, twelfth in receiving yards per game,

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seventeenth in targets and twenty first in air yard share.

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If you need any more about Zay Flowers, and they

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got rid of Isaiah Likely, and the offense is going

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to get more vertical with Deckland Doyle coming in, so

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I know he doesn't score touchdowns. That is the big

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thing that everybody wants to remind me of. Even our

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boy Worm who's a Ravens fan, won't get on my level.

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Was Zay Flowers here because he's watched them playing. He

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doesn't get extra end zone shots. But if you're if

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your guy is giving you this high of a floor,

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and maybe there's more touchdowns for him because he hasn't

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scored them. I'm not saying they're definitely gonna come. I

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wouldn't even depend on them. But with these numbers, you

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don't have to depend on him getting in the end

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zone because you know, you add a guy like Serrat

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might be good. Jacobe Lane might be good specifically near

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the end zone, but you get rid of Likely. You know, Hopkins.

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Isn't there anymore? Who is number two? Who is taking

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targets away from Zay Flowers? My answer is nobody. So

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I think we're gonna see a lot of the same.

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This dude could end up in the top ten and

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he's going as a middle of the pack wide receiver too.

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Speaker 2: Right now, yep, I agree with you, and I'm right

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in line with ECR. I can make a case for

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him higher. And as far as the touchdown stuff, didn't

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people say that about aman Rossaint Brown until he bucked

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that trend Like his first two years in the Sea

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into his career he scored six and five touchdowns and

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then he rattled off twelve twelve or ten, twelve and eleven.

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So it's like you're not a touchdown scorer until you are.

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Sometimes and at this point, like say, Flowers is really

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freaking good no matter whatever metric you pull up, Like

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I think he is a locked in wide receiver two.

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But again, when we're parsing through the wide receiver two

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range and we're splitting hairs with all these guys, I'm

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only going after guys in that range that in my

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mind's eye or with usage or anything related to that,

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you gotta have wide receiver one upside if everything comes together,

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and if you don't have wide receiver one upside, I'm

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really not interested in with you. As far as like

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I don't want to draft a wide receiver two and

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ADP and just be like, I just hope that he

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produces as a wide receiver two. You know, just do

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what I think you're gonna do, and I'll be happy.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, this is a floor of a wide receiver

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two who performed as a wide receiver one last year.

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So yeah, we're in on Zay Flowers. Who's number three

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for you?

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Speaker 2: Rema Dobbs. Baby, I think he's gonna have a fantastic

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season for the New England Patriots. I know that I'm

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considerably considerably above ECR right now. I've got him at

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wide receiver forty, and I can make you a case

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to push him into the wide receiver three range. I

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just can't do with some of the names that are there.

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But Romeo Dobbs last year amongst the same set of

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one hundred and nine wide receivers, which is basically every

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wide receiver that had at least two hundred routs last year.

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So amongst that sample, Romeo Dobbs last year twenty third

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in separation score, fifth in route win rate. The problem

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with Romeo Dobbs is not a Romeo Dobbs problem. The

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problem with Romeo Dobbs in previous years was the moneyball

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approach with the Green Bay wide receivers, and he is

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going to be a full time player. He's going to

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get a bumping routes and with that because the talent

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that has just laid out with those two numbers, he's

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going to get a bump of targets. And for everybody

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that's out there saying, oohooooo, Drake May just spreads the

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ball around. That's what you do when you don't have

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target earning guys in the offense, when you don't have anything.

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Speaker 3: He's pushing Romeo Dos.

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Speaker 4: Why do you think Kshaw Boody wants to get traded

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away for New England because he knows that he ain't

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getting that type of usage this year that he had

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last year. Because they went out they said, yeah, that's

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a really cute like wide receiver room.

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Speaker 2: Oh by the way, we're just gonna add aj Brown

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and Romeo Dobbs to it. So yeah, like Romeo Dobs

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is gonna get his this year, and I think he's

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gonna be a wide receiver three when everything is said

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and done.

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Speaker 3: I have him as a wide receiver four, which is

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currently higher than his.

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Speaker 2: Is one of the fifties two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If I'm cheap access into a pass heavy offense tied

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to one of the best quarterbacks in the entire freaking NFL,

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why are people just bypassing that Scott Like I don't

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get that, we can.

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Speaker 3: Get him as a wide receiver five now, right, the

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floor is insanely high with Romeo Dobbs. So take him

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as your fifth wide receiver, and if somebody gets hurt

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early you get you're gonna be You're gonna have a

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very high floor player back. Get him up. My third

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guy here, I'm gonna go with Chris Godwin. Ninth in

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yack per reception at six point two, and he was

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wide receiver twenty one in PPR when he came back

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last season. He's a year beyond his last cleanout per

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surgery at this procedure. At this point, I'm dude him

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sandwiching words together today thirteenth and yack per reception in

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twenty twenty four as well at six point nine yards

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per reception, and we have all of Mike Evans' targets

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are gone, right, So I think when you look at

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this offense, you have the krusty veteran and Chris Godwin,

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who has a very high floor. Really the really the

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bottom out problem with Chris Godwin. It's just injury related, right,

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Baker being hurt as well could do something like it

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obviously did last year. But we're just finding out that

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Baker played through you know, a sprain PCL and MCL

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along with the shoulder issue last year he played hold.

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Speaker 2: He played through a sprained body. I think that's how

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it needs to be. Just like his entire body from

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head to toe was sprained, like, I don't know a

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better way to describe it, Scott.

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Speaker 3: And this is this is still a pass first offense, dude,

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Like it's still going to be a pass for offense.

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And that is why you go out and you get

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gain well, right, because a dude can catch passes out

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of the backfield. He can replace a lot of what

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Bucky does if Bucky does get hurt again. Right, So

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you get rid of Mike Evans, you know where he

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doesn't resign however you want to say it, but you

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have him at BUKA. You have Chris Godwin, you have

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Jayleen mill. Now I think that Chris Godwin is going

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to be a massive part of this. We've already heard

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the reports of maybe he's number one. I still think

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personally that's probably going to end up being a Buka.

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But this is like a mini Bengals offense here, right.

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It's like you have Chasin Higgins, you have Godwin and

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Ed Buka in Tampa Bay and currently you know, he's

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an ECR wide receiver thirty six. That's where I have

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him as well, so you know, but I think that

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bakes in the potential injuries with him because this is

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a guy with I think if he plays the whole season,

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his floor is probably as a wide receiver too. It's

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just wide receiver is deep right now, and this is

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a guy that offers you a lot, specifically early in

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the season. So what are your thoughts on Godwin? Where

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do you have him ranked?

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of in between on him. I've got him

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a wide receiver forty four, but it's not because I

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hate Chris Godwin. It's just in that range. Like I

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have Dobbs ahead of him, I have Jade Higgins ahead

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of him. I've got other guys that like Again, like

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I think you could start making the case for Chris

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Godwin at the back end of wide receiver three land

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and stuff like that, but then it's like I've got

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players like Ricky Pearsoll and Quinton Johnston pushed up ahead

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of him, just like with youth and talent and upside.

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It's just like yeah, yeah, exactly, Like I feel like

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we're splitting hate errors in that entire range and God's

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gonna here.

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Speaker 3: And this is But the point is is this is

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00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,880
the group that you need to be buying wide receivers from, yes, right,

476
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,720
because there's so much upside, there's so much floor. It's

477
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,839
what flavored you like the most. This is where you

478
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,319
need to be buying, at least well, especially.

479
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,839
Speaker 2: In the Year of Our Lord in twenty twenty six,

480
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,759
when everybody's all in on running backs, you're gonna have

481
00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:21,920
to catch up with wide receiver if you do, go RB,

482
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,519
RB and what have you in that.

483
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,559
Speaker 3: But I think it's a good year to go hide

484
00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:29,960
at RB because agreed among the receivers, who's next on

485
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,119
your love list?

486
00:24:31,599 --> 00:24:36,559
Speaker 2: Oh man, Jayleen Cocher, I just I'm not buying the

487
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,799
I'm not paying the iron price for tederomycmillan in drafts

488
00:24:39,839 --> 00:24:42,079
right now. I'm just not. And this is not a

489
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,839
tech problem. This is a Carolina passing volume problem. And

490
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:48,440
this is a Bryce Young problem. So I feel like

491
00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:51,559
if if I knew tedoromy Millan was gonna get a

492
00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:54,759
volume bump Carolina was gonna throw more than they did

493
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,359
last year, than I would be paying for tetoo because

494
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,079
I again like he was my wide receiverer one of

495
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,599
the draft class him didn't listen to any of the

496
00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:04,119
crap coming out about him being too slow, not watching film,

497
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,160
all that kind of bs. So this isn't a tech problem.

498
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,839
But to say this is, I'm going to be drafting

499
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,000
a lot of Jaalen Cocher in drafts because the gap

500
00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:18,480
that exists in drafts in ADP between Ted and Jalen

501
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,599
Coker should not exist because I think both of them

502
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,519
have the similar problems with the passing volume and a

503
00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:27,559
Bryce Shung problem. But in Jaillen Cocher, you're not paying

504
00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:30,640
for that. You're getting free access to Jalen Cocher at

505
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,039
the back end of drafts. And the reason like I

506
00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:35,079
want to bring him up here is that if you

507
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,079
look at last year, because Jaillen Cocker was not healthy

508
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,359
to begin the season, and the healthiest portion of his season,

509
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,519
so weeks ten through nin or excuse me, thirteen through nineteen,

510
00:25:44,839 --> 00:25:48,160
and yes I'm pulling in the playoff game there. If

511
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,960
you stack up Tedro McMillan versus Jailen Cocher and that

512
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:55,559
Scott that part Scott So weeks thirteen through nineteen, Ttero

513
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,240
McMillan versus Jailen Cocher. Ted had an eighteen point three

514
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:02,559
percent target chare, Jalen Cocher had a twenty percent target share.

515
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,160
TED head set one point seven eight yards per route

516
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,559
run Jalen Cocher two point three zero red zone targets

517
00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:12,599
one for TET, four for Coker. First read share twenty

518
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,680
six point one percent for TET, twenty eight point three

519
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:18,599
percent for Jalen Cocher. And I'm not saying all of

520
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,720
this to say that Jalen Coker will be the wide

521
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,880
receiver one in Carolina this year. But what I'm saying

522
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,680
all of this to illustrate when both of these guys

523
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,079
were on the field then the back half of last

524
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:34,319
season and Jalen Cocher was at his healthiest, this passing

525
00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:38,079
attack revolved around the two of them, and Jalen Cocher

526
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,039
is going to get just as big of a pie

527
00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:44,240
with Tetroy McMillan and so It's like you're eating all

528
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:47,559
of the risk of the downside with Teterro McMillan at

529
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:49,799
where you're drafting him as a mid or high end

530
00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:52,960
wide receiver two. But none of that is baked into

531
00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:56,720
Jalen Coker's price, into how much of the target pie

532
00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:59,799
he's gonna have in Carolina. I would much rather bet

533
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,079
his price in drafts that he outplays his ADP than

534
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,759
saying Tech can live up to his or surpass it.

535
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:08,960
In twenty twenty six.

536
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: Man Cocher is so tough for me because I'm lower

537
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,599
on on him than consensus, and it is a tier

538
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:20,359
part him. I have sixty one, so I have not

539
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,440
been in because mainly it's because the issue that he's

540
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,640
had injury wise is the same thing two years in

541
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,559
a row. It's the calf two years ago.

542
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:31,839
Speaker 2: I know you're you're more scared about injuries and not

543
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,799
saying scared, you're more hesitant about injuries and stuff like.

544
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:37,480
I think that's just a.

545
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: Difference that plus Bryce Young like you were mentioning Tech. Yeah, yeah,

546
00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:45,599
So like the guys I do have ahead of him, uh,

547
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,880
mainly are in better offenses, not all of them, but

548
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,200
like I have Rashid Shahid ahead of him, right, who

549
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,160
is you know in a better offense? The Seahawks are

550
00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:01,400
a better offense, uh worthy, Golden Washington here your boy

551
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,799
QJ and Higgins and Wilson, Like these guys are all

552
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:08,440
in better offenses than Carolina is. So I have him

553
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,240
in with Like, you know, where the hell is Tyreek

554
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:15,920
Hill gonna go? If he's Kansas City, that that would

555
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,799
be amazing, But I don't know if that's gonna happen.

556
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: I don't think Tyreek's gonna play football in twenty twenty six. Yeah,

557
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,599
I don't think he will.

558
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 3: But like an Mitchell Antonio Williams, I'm probably too low

559
00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:31,359
on Coker to be honest with you, but I just

560
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,960
I can't get there because of the CAF issue, because

561
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,880
of the bad offense. I just and like if leaguet

562
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:39,279
ever pops off, I don't think he will. I think

563
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:40,759
we won with that, but I.

564
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: Don like.

565
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: So there there's a little bra Brassel is more of

566
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:50,359
a boom er bus play. He's a deep threat. He's

567
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,079
not going to eat up targets like like Coker. Coker.

568
00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:57,319
For me, I'm definitely more willing to buy in PPR right,

569
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,400
So that is that that is kind of the thing.

570
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:02,119
Speaker 2: To that point where do you have Ted ranked? If

571
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,359
your lower on are you just lower on that offense too,

572
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,599
or are we kind of like riding?

573
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,839
Speaker 3: I have at eleven, so I think I'm like right

574
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,000
on him fifteen right now.

575
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: Wow, See, I'm massively I'm massively below market on Ted

576
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,960
just so I am worried about Bryce Shung and stuff

577
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,200
like that.

578
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: I guess the reason that I'm a little higher on

579
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,960
Ted is that he's going into the second year, and

580
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,640
we typically from a good performer, we typically see So

581
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,920
that's that's why I'm higher on Ted than I am

582
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,960
even in a rough offense. And also just like if

583
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,480
we are talking upside, I don't think there are many

584
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,519
people that have more touchdown upside than Ted. We just

585
00:29:40,519 --> 00:29:42,039
need to get to the point where we can score

586
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:45,519
touchdowns and and he is going to be there. All right?

587
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,240
So yours was Cocher. Here. My next one is another.

588
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:49,920
I'm going to go back to running back and I

589
00:29:50,119 --> 00:29:53,880
go back to Jalen Warren And this is because I

590
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,720
feel like and I still have them close. I have

591
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,319
him and doubt will close. But I think that there's

592
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:03,039
the people that say, oh, well, that'll work with McCarthy.

593
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:08,480
They signed him. This is Dowdell's job. No doubt. ECR

594
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:13,000
has actually impressed me because it's twenty seven for Warren

595
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:15,720
and it's thirty one for Dowdle. So the market is

596
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,920
keeping Warren ahead of Doddle, which I think is correct.

597
00:30:19,079 --> 00:30:22,079
But I know it's not for everybody's thought process, right.

598
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,039
Speaker 2: No, I think it's correct.

599
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,839
Speaker 3: Let's just look at this in a vacuum of stats, right,

600
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:30,279
miss tackles force per attempt. Jalen Warren was sixth in

601
00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:34,480
the NFL last year. Daddle was nineteenth, which is still

602
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:37,000
very good. Right, You're still a top twenty guy. But

603
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,839
Warren was better. Yards after contact per attempt. Warren was ninth.

604
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,960
Doddell was great, he was eleventh, but Warren was still better.

605
00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:51,599
Successful run percentage fourteenth for Warren, fortieth for Doddle. That

606
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,759
one was a big. A lot of that had to

607
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:55,759
do with offensive line play, though, and we know it

608
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:58,880
was kind of rough in Carolina last year. Inside the

609
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,759
five percentage, this is the won the Dowdle beats Jalen

610
00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:04,480
Warren in He was eighth last season, and Warren was

611
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,039
fifty three point eight. He was eighteenth. Yards per target

612
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:12,839
six for Dowdle in the passing game, fourteenth or I'm sorry,

613
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,559
six for Warren in the passing game, fourteenth for Dowdle.

614
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:19,720
Yards after contact per reception, My boy, Jaalen Warren was

615
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,799
first among running backs. Second was Chuba Rico's teammate, which

616
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,039
is kind of funny, and but Rico was still eight

617
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,640
like he was still good. But Warren was the best

618
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,240
in the NFL at that among running backs last year,

619
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,240
yards per out run Warren again third in the NFL

620
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:42,359
among running backs. Dowtle thirteenth targets in PPR or in

621
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:46,920
points per reception six for Warren, fifteenth for Dowdle. So

622
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:49,319
anyone saying that Dowdle is gonna come in here and

623
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:52,680
be the no doubt back, I think you're looking at

624
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,799
this not from the right angle, because Jalen Warren is

625
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:57,880
being slept on, he's not being talked about. I think

626
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,039
he's gonna end up being an RB two season, and

627
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:03,799
he's being drafted as an RB three, and some people

628
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:06,640
are passing on him to take Rico Dawdle, And I

629
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,880
just don't think that's the right thought process. What are

630
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,240
your thoughts on the Steelers backfield for twenty six.

631
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: I've got Warren in RB twenty seven and doubt led

632
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:17,880
RB thirty two. I think we're gonna see McCarthy run

633
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,279
a very similar thing. If everybody wants to go back

634
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:23,839
to yesteryear of like Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams when

635
00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:25,599
he was in Green Bay, I think it's gonna be.

636
00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:28,240
I think Warren is gonna be the clear passing down

637
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:32,240
back and stuff while working in on Like I kind

638
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,319
of feel like if you look at Jalen Warren's role

639
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,720
in previous years with him and Nausey Scott, I kind

640
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,240
of feel like we're gonna get like an elevated version

641
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:42,720
of that. And then it just and then we're playing

642
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:45,400
the game of where did the touchdowns go? You know,

643
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,720
like who's on the field whenever they're near the goal line,

644
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:51,440
I don't know, should be there you go? There you go?

645
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,359
But like so like I've been a Warren stand for years, man,

646
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,400
I've got receipts out there of like I love Jalen Warren.

647
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,759
Whenever he was signed as a u DFA like in Dynasty,

648
00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:03,839
I told everybody to stash him. He should have never

649
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,279
gone undrafted. So I freaking love Jalen Warren. And this

650
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:10,119
isn't like a one year blip of him like being

651
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,559
one of the most efficient running backs on a per

652
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,559
touch basis. He's done this almost every damned year of

653
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:18,920
his career. Scott so like so like expecting him to

654
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,799
stay really damn good is not anything insane.

655
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: Just overlooked even I did it. You know, last year,

656
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:25,680
I was kind of thinking, a man, they spent that

657
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:27,720
high pick on Caleb Johnson they want I was.

658
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,759
Speaker 2: All in on Caleb. I was all on Cale because

659
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:32,039
I love Caleb as a prospect, and then they shoved

660
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:36,279
him FuMB he fumbled that, which, by the way, Tom,

661
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,920
why do you have Caleb Johnson on kickoffs? I'm sorry,

662
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,599
but that's some kakamii bs.

663
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,559
Speaker 3: Anyway, amen, Amen, I did not like that either. Give

664
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,279
us another love here, debro who you got.

665
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: Oh dude, it's Colston Lovelin. I'm all in on Coaston

666
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,319
Loveland this year. I don't want to, you know, pay

667
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,839
pay the money for the Golden Goose and Brock Bowers.

668
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,640
I will draft him in some leagues, but I feel

669
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,640
like you're accessing a player that is going to compete

670
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,360
with Brock Bowers to be the tight end one overall

671
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,320
this year, and you're not having to pay for it,

672
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,400
like you're paying through the nose for Bowers and drafts.

673
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,599
And I said this about Trey McBride and nobody wanted

674
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:17,519
to listen to me. Last year. I thought about it

675
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:19,719
with people on I was like, treyman bride should have

676
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,280
last year. I said it, and people go pull receipts.

677
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,039
I was like, he should be a first round pick

678
00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:28,519
in fantasy and everybody's like, ah, okay, fine, and he

679
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,039
just leads, you know, wins people leagues. And I feel

680
00:34:31,039 --> 00:34:33,519
like that type of upside exists for Colts and Colston

681
00:34:33,599 --> 00:34:36,039
Loveland this year because if you looked at when he

682
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,480
was finally a full time player in the Bears offense

683
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:42,320
the week sixteen through twenty last year, and I'm going

684
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,400
through go through a laundry list of numbers here real fast,

685
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,400
but I probably I'm going to tie a bow on

686
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,519
this eva end in weeks sixteen through twenty last year.

687
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,679
You got a twenty five point six percent target share.

688
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,280
He averaged eighty one point six receiving yards per game.

689
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,239
He had two point four to nine yards per route

690
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,599
run hit a thirty four percent first read share. He

691
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:06,599
had point one point one six first downs per route run. Okay,

692
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,480
the reason I go through those five categories is that

693
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:14,000
when we saw Colston Lovelin as a full time player

694
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:17,199
and an integral cog in the Bears passing attack in

695
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,079
those games, those per route numbers and market share numbers,

696
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:26,400
those numbers Scott were better than the season that Trade

697
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,639
McBride had in twenty twenty five. And they were also

698
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,519
better on a per route basis than Brock Bauers had

699
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:34,679
in twenty twenty four. So the last two tight end ones,

700
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,960
he bested them when he was finally a full time player.

701
00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:42,280
And then people are like, yeah, but I don't know

702
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,199
if Colston Lovelin can do with cole Comette there, bro

703
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,800
If you're worried about Cole Comette stealing work from Colston

704
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,239
Loveland this year, I don't even know what to tell you. You

705
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,920
need to rank him as outside the top twelve.

706
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,519
Speaker 3: Then it wouldn't be all the way out before the

707
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:56,559
season started, right.

708
00:35:56,599 --> 00:36:00,639
Speaker 2: No, I would either, because they drafted Sam Rousch exactly exactly.

709
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they might trade come out before the season even starts.

710
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: If you are commanding elite volume. You are an elite player,

711
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,960
and we've seen this how many different years, but at

712
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,119
the wide receiver position, and people did the same damn

713
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:18,039
thing Scott. They said, oh, Rashi Rice only had that

714
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:20,639
small blip of usage. He ain't gonna repeat that next year,

715
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:22,920
But he did. People did the same freaking thing with

716
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,320
Amaran sam Brown and said, oh, he can't repeat that

717
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,800
type of usage, but he did. And they're doing it

718
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,880
with Coulston Loveland this year. I think he is the

719
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,760
tight end. I think he's gonna fight Rock Bowers for

720
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,519
the tight end one overall. And instead of paying up

721
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:37,000
for that guy inside of the top twenty players, you

722
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:38,920
can get him in the third or fourth round of drafts.

723
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:39,800
It's a cheat code.

724
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,639
Speaker 3: I haven't got there quite yet, but I do what

725
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,800
I did do recently was I said, okay, well, I

726
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,440
can't have Colson Lovelin in this second tier of tight ends,

727
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:53,880
so I made him his own tier, right, So I

728
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,000
do have Bowers McBride ahead of him. I'm with you

729
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,159
on this too.

730
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,039
Speaker 2: I have him as much tight end too.

731
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, uh So I you know Fitz has talked

732
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,639
about the downfall of Trey McBride for this season as well,

733
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:09,840
and I think he's correct, But I do think they're

734
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,000
still going to pass a lot because it canna be

735
00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:15,679
down a lot. Their defense still sucks. So I do

736
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,400
think Trey McBride can have a good year, but last

737
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,119
year was almost unmatchable, right, So.

738
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,199
Speaker 2: He ran one hundred and sixty more routes than every

739
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,159
other freaking tight end.

740
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:27,559
Speaker 3: That's not insane, So it's just it's just an insane

741
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:30,119
number that can't be hit again. So uh but I

742
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,519
I have another tight end here to talk about with love,

743
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:35,920
and that is Tyler Warren, who is going right.

744
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: I love Tali Warren too. I love Tyler Warren too.

745
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: Sixth and team target percentage among tight ends, which is

746
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,760
you know, it's forty three qualified tight ends. But he

747
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,400
was also fifth in routes per drop back, fifth in

748
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,519
UH receiving YAK, He was sixth in first read percentage

749
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:56,800
among tight ends. He was twelfth in total points per

750
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,159
route run, and one hundred and eleven targets are gone

751
00:38:01,199 --> 00:38:05,519
out of this offense with with Michael Pittman getting shipped

752
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:08,000
off to Pittsburgh. So you know, I know that Josh

753
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:10,360
Dowens has been the talking point for a lot of

754
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,519
people in Indy. We'll get to him in a little

755
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:17,360
bit here, but I think you know, specifically for a

756
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,920
guy that succeeded in year one as a rookie tight end,

757
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,159
Colson Loveland two, right, this is a rare thing that

758
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,599
had Brock. Things like Brock Bauers this in his rookie

759
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:31,239
season in this SS don't typically happen, right. It usually

760
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,480
takes a year or two for a tight end to

761
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,960
get off the ground. It's what happened to try McBride, right,

762
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:37,920
He took a season to get off the ground. But

763
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:42,400
to have early success in your career and to be

764
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:46,519
in a place where they traded their number one target

765
00:38:47,199 --> 00:38:49,039
and you know they gave them money to Alex Pierce.

766
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:52,039
We expect Pierce to to be a big part of

767
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:55,119
this offense. But I think you're looking at Tyler Warren.

768
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:59,840
He does everything that josh Awens doesn't. He gets opened

769
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,679
to down, he breaks tackles, he makes people miss. Josh

770
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:05,480
Allence doesn't do any of that. So I think if

771
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,920
we're looking for someone to take a step up in

772
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,960
the wake of Michael Pittman being gone, and they've even

773
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:14,960
still talked about signing Keenan Allen. That might happen, So

774
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,559
you know, it might be a lot of Michael Pittman

775
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:21,039
just being replaced by by Pittman. But even if they

776
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:26,320
do sign Keenan Allen, not every one hundred eleven targets

777
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,079
aren't going to Keenan At this point in his career,

778
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,719
I think Tyler Warren is gonna eat The ceiling is

779
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,719
very high, and he already has an established floor. I

780
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,559
think that's the thing that I like about Tyler Warren

781
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:38,679
more than anything is we saw the floor last year

782
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:41,880
as a rookie. I think it's just growing from this point.

783
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,039
Specifically this He's part of the reason why they traded Pittman.

784
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:47,679
So I think that Tyler Warren is going to take

785
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,400
a massive step up this year and potentially push himself

786
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,599
into that group of tight end ones. Do you think

787
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,119
he can get there? Can he by the end of

788
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:56,639
this year? Can he get in the group of Loveland,

789
00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:57,519
Bowers and McBride.

790
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: I've got a tight end for some saying it with

791
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,159
my ranks that I think he can or he's right

792
00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:05,960
outside of that. Yeah, yeah, I think so. The thing

793
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,119
with Tyler Warren is that, and we also had taught

794
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:10,400
like Ballock Pierce injury and stuff like that. If he's

795
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,719
slow to start the season. It's like, I think there's

796
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,880
a world we could be living in easily. And to

797
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,760
your point with Josh Towns, I think the answer with

798
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,960
Josh Towns is just draft more Tyler Warren. So I

799
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,159
think we easily could be living in a world at

800
00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:26,360
the end of the season. Scott that Tyler Warren and

801
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,280
not Alec Pearson, not Josh Downs, leads this team in

802
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,920
targets and comfortably does.

803
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,079
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I think he definitely could be right. You

804
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:36,400
have two more loves than I do, so let's hear

805
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,039
him both back to back. Here, who do you got

806
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:39,119
last on your love list?

807
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 2: These are two wide receivers changing homes. One everybody is

808
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,840
in on and one is lagging behind in rankings. And

809
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,360
I think it's insane because we're basically making the same

810
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,760
exact case for Jaln Wattle and AJ Brown. Both of

811
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,039
them moved from run heavy offenses to pass heavy offenses.

812
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,079
Both of them are still elite on per route metri.

813
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,880
Aj Brown was he is not washed. Anybody that tells

814
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,599
you he has washed is not looking at numbers, and

815
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:09,840
it's all BS narrative. Street you look at that same

816
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,079
one hundred and nine wide receivers last year for a J.

817
00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:14,719
Brown ninth and target chare seventeenth and yards per route

818
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,039
run eighth and first reach here twentieth and first first

819
00:41:18,039 --> 00:41:20,320
downs per route run at sixteenth and route win rate.

820
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:24,320
None of that says he's washed, So don't buy the narrative.

821
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,480
Buy him in drafts and Jalen Waddell again, it's all

822
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,920
of this stuff was missed because he operated with a

823
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,079
team trying to hide the quarterback and trying to run

824
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:38,559
the ball to again hide the quarterback, and with Jalen

825
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:42,119
Wattle again, amongst the same sample size of wide receivers,

826
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:46,440
he was top twelve in every single metric that I

827
00:41:46,519 --> 00:41:49,840
care about. Scott, He's gonna be the unquestioned wide receiver one.

828
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,239
And then for this year, how Courtland Sutton. They tried

829
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,960
to replace him as the wide receiver one with Troy

830
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,639
Franklin during a stretch of last year. So if Courtland

831
00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:59,000
Sutton could barely hold off Troy Franklin, what the hell

832
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:01,440
you think he's gonna do withal Wattle in town? And

833
00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:03,159
for all the Denver stands are out there that are

834
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:05,840
in my comments and mentions and saying, yeah, Denver's gonna

835
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,480
run the ball. Did they get a new coach not

836
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:11,639
named Sean Payton, because that's not happening.

837
00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: Either. No, they straight in.

838
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: A first round pick for a wide receiver to run

839
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:21,559
the ball. Come on, man, like, what are we doing here?

840
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,599
Speaker 3: Agreed? And look, I'm a Cortland Sutton stand.

841
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 2: I like Courtland Sutton. I like him, but he's not

842
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:28,719
the wide receiver one.

843
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 3: He's better, dude, Yeah, I agree, I agree with that.

844
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:36,920
So uh yeah, wattles better. Like the way that Sutton

845
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:40,960
matches Wattle in production, it would have to be in touchdowns,

846
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:43,719
like that's the only way, right, Well, I.

847
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: Think that passing game condenses around the two of them,

848
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:49,679
Like where we've seen the passing game. The only full

849
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,920
time player in the Denver offense last or the last

850
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,920
two years has been Courtland Sutton. This year it's gonna

851
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,599
be Jalen Waddle and Courtland Sutton and then a rotating

852
00:42:57,639 --> 00:42:59,920
cast of characters behind those.

853
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:03,639
Speaker 3: Yeah really, Troy Franklin, Bryan Oh yeah, crushed.

854
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: It crushes him. Mark Marvin Mimms is sending to the

855
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,800
punt return.

856
00:43:06,559 --> 00:43:12,119
Speaker 3: Ether, right, Marvin Mims, oh Man, Marvin Marvin Mims is

857
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:14,800
like put him in Buffalo or something, put him with

858
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,920
Josh Allen, just someone with.

859
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,559
Speaker 2: The Marvin Mims is everybody's favorite player to want to

860
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:22,000
be hypop and it's just like, it's just it's just

861
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:24,079
not going to happen. Just just face facts.

862
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,079
Speaker 3: Let me kick you off with some hates here. And

863
00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:28,239
I know I've gotten a lot of pushback for the

864
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,400
first one here, and it's it's definitely not the player,

865
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:34,800
it's the value that people see within him. This year

866
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,599
to start, it's ken Walker for me, and the biggest

867
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:40,880
thing to me, and you know I've already talked about

868
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,880
it on this show is volume right. And ken Walker

869
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,480
was twenty six in touches during the regular season last year,

870
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:49,159
and he's going as an RB one. He's going to

871
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,760
RB twelve. I have him much lower than that. I

872
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,800
have him at RB fifteen, So you know, he is

873
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,239
a little bit lower to me. I can't get him

874
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,480
as a wider as an RB one in my But

875
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,559
it's not only that is he was, I mean, the

876
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:06,079
dude was still first and explosive percentage. He was first

877
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:09,960
in misstackles force for Kerry. But is he going to

878
00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:14,000
get this expanded, gigantic workload that everyone expects him to

879
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,760
get because Mahomes is hurt and the Chiefs have not

880
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,199
had a dominant running back yet. And I understand, Look,

881
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,119
there's no one behind him. There's no one behind him.

882
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:25,559
Everybody says that. I think Brishard Smith in a second

883
00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:28,639
year could take a nice step. Also, it's only his

884
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,039
third year or fourth year of playing running back. He

885
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:34,280
was a wide receiver at SMU before this same story

886
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,320
with Courtland Sutton at SMU switched from safety to wide

887
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,760
receiver and came to the NFL in his third season

888
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,519
playing wide receiver, so he's learned a lot on the job.

889
00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:47,800
But Emmett Johnson had two hundred and ninety seven touches

890
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,400
for Nebraska last year. He was the definition of a

891
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,800
workhorse and for ken Walker too, forty eighth in rushes

892
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,960
inside the five last year because they gave it all

893
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,719
to Charbonnay in Seattle. Right, Henderson is behind Henderson, gain Well,

894
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,840
Woody marks, Devin Singletary in carries inside the five percentage. Right,

895
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,480
he was fifty three to fifty nine in rush success

896
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:14,719
rate forty three or fifty nine in the tough percentage

897
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,440
last year he had zero games with more than twenty touches,

898
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,920
two games with twenty and nine games under fifteen touches.

899
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,360
Last season, two hundred and fifty five touches as a

900
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,159
rookie are his most that he has had in a

901
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:32,239
single season. He should break that number this year. I'm

902
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,360
not saying that. I'm not saying he won't get an

903
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,519
expanded role in Kansas City, but we have to remember

904
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:42,039
his injury history with an expanded role, right He started

905
00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:44,480
his career dealing with a hamstring injury in camp, missed

906
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,639
the opener after Hernie's surgery, plus one other game with

907
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:50,199
an ankle issue. He missed multiple weeks in twenty twenty

908
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:52,679
three with an ab issue he uh twenty twenty four,

909
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,360
he missed two weeks with an obleaque early and one game.

910
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,320
He only played one game after Week twelve with a

911
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,159
calf strain as well. So I feel like ken Walker

912
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:04,400
has shown us when you give him too many touches,

913
00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:07,960
he breaks down. The reason he's explosive can make guys

914
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,519
miss is because he is part of a tandem backfield.

915
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:15,760
So I just don't know. I can't guarantee like other

916
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,800
people are a massive expanded role for ken Walker, gonna

917
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,159
be more touchdowns, Yes, gonna be more touches. It should be,

918
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:26,079
but I don't know if he's going to get enough

919
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:28,480
to get him to an RB one there. So I

920
00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:30,599
love ken Walker the player, but I think he's shown

921
00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:32,239
us if you give him too many touches, he's gonna

922
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,599
break down. And that's kind of why black and White

923
00:46:34,639 --> 00:46:37,320
on ken Walker and why I don't like his ECR

924
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:37,800
right now.

925
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,119
Speaker 2: No, I understand it, and like I've always been a

926
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:43,960
pro kin Walker guy. I love the talent, I love

927
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,280
his per touch efficiency and stuff. I don't think that

928
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,320
he's gonna get loaded up with twenty carries a week.

929
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,199
I don't think that Kansas City's gonna become a run

930
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,119
first offense. What I do think that with Kenneth Walker,

931
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:55,480
and I understand the concerns with him a Johnson. I

932
00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:57,920
loved him Johnson as a prospect, and I thought it

933
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,079
was insane, dude. I wanted him to fall to the

934
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,599
freaking Vikings so damn bad. Like I was like, please

935
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:08,000
go to the Vikings, like there's so much duplicity with

936
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:10,639
your skill set and Aaron Jones that actually might have been.

937
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 3: I Loveaborn too, but I would have been over the moon.

938
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:15,519
Speaker 2: If oh, I would have been over the moon for

939
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:18,760
Emma Johnson. So like him landing Okse broke my heart,

940
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:21,960
much like Mike Washington landing with the Raiders, I was like,

941
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:26,440
I want to cry because I love both those backs.

942
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,679
But like to your point about ken Walker, I think

943
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,800
I don't disagree with you about the volume and stuff.

944
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,880
I don't see him becoming a twenty carry back that.

945
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,960
But I guess what we differ is I because I'm

946
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,800
above ECR, I've got him at RB nine. That where

947
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,679
I think we're different is he he is a really

948
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,760
damn good receiver, dude. Like over multiple years, like two

949
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,119
years in a row, he's top twelve and almost everything

950
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:51,719
you can look.

951
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:56,559
Speaker 3: At get the ball in his hands, it's shows.

952
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: So I think that he's gonna get used more as

953
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,800
a receiver to where it's like, I don't want any

954
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,280
twenty carry games for ken Walker. What I want is

955
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,639
fourteen years sitting fit. Exactly what I want is fifteen

956
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,400
sixteen carries and give you like four receptions and more

957
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,800
off to the damn races, dude. So like That's where

958
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,719
I'm at with ken Walker, and I'm fine projecting he's

959
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,800
going to be the primary goal line back because they

960
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,559
paid him, so like I don't see like anybody on

961
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:27,360
that roster fighting him for goal line work outside of

962
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,400
Hunt oh see. And I think I think last year

963
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,679
was finally they were done with Kareem because like they're like, look, Kareem,

964
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,519
we know what we're getting. You're getting three to five

965
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:40,559
yards in a cloud of dust. And they were like,

966
00:48:40,599 --> 00:48:43,679
look like we're not getting explosives in our passing game

967
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,920
anymore because we don't know what to do with too

968
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,280
high and we don't have the guys like to do that.

969
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,719
And like the NFL has switched more towards like I

970
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,000
mean the Kansas City Chiefs for the reason that that

971
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:56,599
the NFL did all this, like Mahomes and Tyreek broke

972
00:48:56,679 --> 00:48:59,920
the NFL from single high. So the fact that case

973
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:01,960
he has had such a hard time adjusting the too

974
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:03,880
high stuff, I think they went back to the drawing

975
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,679
board and said, Okay, we got to get explosives. How

976
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:09,039
are we gonna do that. Oh, We're gonna sign Kenneth Walker.

977
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,599
And so like I think using him in the passing

978
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:14,880
game is gonna help like raise the floor and ceilings.

979
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,920
So that's why I'm in on him. But I understand

980
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,239
the downside of it. I absolutely get it, you know,

981
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,840
so you know, not a ton of pushback for me,

982
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,559
but I to kick off my hate. I don't know

983
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:30,599
where you're at with Lamar Jackson this year, I think, dude.

984
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:36,079
I so my problem with Lamar is not so much

985
00:49:36,119 --> 00:49:38,800
a Lamar problem, because I still have him at KB five.

986
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:43,079
I just think having him as the QB two in

987
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:48,199
fantasy is honestly insane. That that part of this I

988
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,039
think is insane for a lot of different reasons. It's

989
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,679
that if you look at the totality of his career

990
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,159
over the last few years, and I won't even we'll

991
00:49:57,159 --> 00:49:59,480
get to twenty twenty five here for a second, but

992
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:02,800
look at the previous seasons QB one, QB three, QB six,

993
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,039
QB seven, QB eight, QB one. There are two QB

994
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:11,239
one seasons in that what is that six years? The

995
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,320
other four years he's closer to my top five ranking

996
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,280
or my KB five ranking that he is of VCRs

997
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,039
QB two ranking. In QB two, it's like they're not bad,

998
00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:23,639
there's no risk baked in. It's like, well, if Josh

999
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:26,079
Allen isn't the QV one, It's gonna be Lamar Jackson.

1000
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:30,519
And I'm like, he's coming off arguably the worst season

1001
00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:34,480
of his entire freaking career where it's like, oh, yeah,

1002
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:37,800
like the injuries and stuff, but everybody's chalking up everything

1003
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,320
to Lamar in the back half of last year to

1004
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,719
the injuries, and it's like, this dude's also got a

1005
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,840
lot of wear on him. It's not like we can

1006
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,760
like just say, oh, he's destined to stay healthy this year,

1007
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,079
when every single year when it turns cold, Lamar gets

1008
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:55,000
a cold, he gets a gi bug, he gets hurt,

1009
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,360
he gets he misses games, and that happens almost every

1010
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,559
damn year. And it's like, oh, he's also coming off

1011
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,480
easily the worst season of his career. In weeks nine

1012
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:07,840
through eighteen, Scott, he was the QB twenty in Fantasy

1013
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,440
points per game. He wasn't even a QB one, And

1014
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,000
this is all just like a just shoved under the rug,

1015
00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:17,000
like it didn't happen, and I'm like, but it did.

1016
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,679
It did happen. And during that stretch again, weeks nine

1017
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,079
through eighteen, we're not talking about a three game stretch

1018
00:51:24,159 --> 00:51:28,920
or a five game stretch, here amongst thirty four qualifying quarterbacks,

1019
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,400
he was arguably one of the worst passers of the

1020
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,800
football in the entire NFL. He was thirty third and

1021
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,079
highly accurate throw rate. He was twenty six the catchable

1022
00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:42,440
target rate. We haven't even gotten into the offensive line.

1023
00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:45,239
We haven't even gotten to outside of eight flowers. Who

1024
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,679
the hell do you feel good about in this passing attack?

1025
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:53,079
But yeah, Lamar, Jackson, QV two and Easyr sure thing.

1026
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:59,199
Speaker 3: Noo. I can't, I can't, I will, I will take

1027
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,559
every argument. Can't for Drake May being QB two, I

1028
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:10,880
don't like. That's fine washing. My first tier is the

1029
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,760
first five wide receivers. Now I understand that almost everybody

1030
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,360
has them in a tier of three right of Alan,

1031
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,599
Lamar and May. I add in Joe Burrow and Jade

1032
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:24,039
and Daniels. Not because I would ever take Joe Burrow

1033
00:52:24,119 --> 00:52:26,559
or Jade and Daniels ahead of those guys. But I

1034
00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:31,360
do think if everybody plays seventeen games, that Burrow and

1035
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,760
Daniels could still be QB one, right Like, I do

1036
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,760
think that that's in within the real realm of possibility.

1037
00:52:38,039 --> 00:52:41,840
I don't know that anybody else with playing seventeen games

1038
00:52:42,199 --> 00:52:44,199
could get there, right, I just don't know that they.

1039
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,519
Speaker 2: Okay, so no it's not Caleb, but the guy that

1040
00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:53,400
I think and I'm gonna I just want to let's

1041
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,599
walk down. Let's hold hands, and let's walk down Narrative

1042
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:56,159
Street together.

1043
00:52:56,199 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 3: Okay, there's a lot of these trees on this street, man,

1044
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,440
and no street lights. Where are we going?

1045
00:53:03,079 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: Okay, well, just close your street.

1046
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 3: A free candy van here, deep Where are we going?

1047
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, it's not. Just close your eyes

1048
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,599
and pretend like we're walking down Bourbon Street and we're

1049
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:15,599
right back into Orleans and again. Okay, fun times.

1050
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1051
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 2: Both of these quarterbacks are coming off down seasons. Both

1052
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,880
of these quarterbacks have a history of being QB one

1053
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:29,360
in Fantasy points per game. Both of these quarterbacks are

1054
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,239
also coming off down seasons in rushing department and passing department.

1055
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,519
Both of these quarterbacks also have brand new offensive coordinators.

1056
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,639
But because one of those offensive coordinators is coming from

1057
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:43,280
the Ben Johnson tree, although we still don't know if

1058
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,599
he's any good or not, he's getting a pass. The

1059
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:53,480
other offensive coordinator is coming from Lafloor tree. Jalen Hurts

1060
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:57,000
is falling in ADP and he's the QB six or

1061
00:53:57,079 --> 00:53:59,599
QB seven, depending on where you're looking at. And he

1062
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,920
is absorbing. Oh, he's so freaking risky because they're gonna

1063
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,159
ask him to do things that he's never done and

1064
00:54:05,199 --> 00:54:07,559
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and he's coming

1065
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:10,639
off a down season. I can paint you the exact

1066
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:14,840
same narrative for Lamar Jackson. Accept Jalen Hurts. And I

1067
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,760
don't even know if this is arguably, I'm just gonna

1068
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,079
say it's straight up. Jalen Hurts has the better offensive line,

1069
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,360
we could say running back as a wash. As far

1070
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,199
as pass catchers, Jalen Hurts has better pass catchers and

1071
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,960
totality than Lamar Jackson. Accept. Lamar Jackson is QB two

1072
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,039
and Jalen Hurts. It's like, but we don't know, we

1073
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:38,800
don't know, and he's QB six or TB seven. Tell

1074
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,119
me how that makes any damn sense.

1075
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,639
Speaker 3: Scott, I don't, I, you know, I And he is

1076
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,559
TB one upside because he's done it before. Just like Lamar,

1077
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,280
I have him ma QB six, I have him a

1078
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:56,559
QB three here. Uh So for me, Jalen Hurts, you know,

1079
00:54:56,639 --> 00:54:58,880
you're right, I do think the floor is very high.

1080
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,840
I don't know that. I don't know that there is

1081
00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:06,400
more upside. The upside is scoring more rushing touchdowns from

1082
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,840
the toush push and being QB one again, which is

1083
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,519
fine if you want to put it in the hocket.

1084
00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:13,000
I'm okay with I don't over.

1085
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,039
Speaker 2: The last few years. But he has a QB one

1086
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:18,440
season under his freaking bill. Okay, but but also many

1087
00:55:18,519 --> 00:55:21,840
top two seasons as Lamar Jackson in the same fan.

1088
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,159
Speaker 3: But how many how many QB won What was the

1089
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:28,360
lowest rank of Lamar Jackson that you rattled off at

1090
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,880
the beginning, because your point about him only being QB

1091
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,559
one twice, But the way that you rattled it off,

1092
00:55:35,679 --> 00:55:38,960
how low was it was a QB seven QB eight.

1093
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: Which is the same, which is the same exact thing

1094
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,199
as Jalen Hurts was last year. But again, mar Jackson

1095
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:47,440
gets a pass, but Galen Hurts doesn't.

1096
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 3: Okay, look at it. I'm fine. I'm fine with Hurts

1097
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:56,599
being pushed up in there, right, That's fine. I don't

1098
00:55:56,639 --> 00:55:58,400
hate the fact that I just think.

1099
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 2: The Declan Doyle glade is really covering up a lot

1100
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,119
of things for Lamar Jackson.

1101
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: And I think that's you know, I'll tell you what

1102
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,840
I do accept. I do accept that if Lamar is

1103
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,880
uh injury hampered this season also like he was last year,

1104
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:19,559
he can't be in this top tier of quarterbacks again, right,

1105
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,519
because now it's every year we're going to have this injuries.

1106
00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:28,199
I wonder how much he hated playing for this offense

1107
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,039
last year and getting beat up because Daniel File was

1108
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:35,559
ollaying every single damn defensive lineman at the end of

1109
00:56:35,639 --> 00:56:38,320
the year and he was getting smacked around.

1110
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: But you think that's going to be better with the

1111
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:41,760
offensive line that he's behind this year.

1112
00:56:42,159 --> 00:56:46,559
Speaker 3: Yes, Daniel was god awful.

1113
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:48,159
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he was.

1114
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:52,639
Speaker 3: I'm not huge, but I think you have more depth, right,

1115
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,119
And I think the I think the process is also

1116
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:56,719
going to be to get the ball out a little

1117
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,719
bit quicker, which could be good for Andrews and Serrat

1118
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,199
and say Flowers, right, Save Flowers is a dude that's

1119
00:57:02,199 --> 00:57:03,480
great with the ball in his hands. To get the

1120
00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:05,320
ball in his hands quickly, we should get that ball.

1121
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: That's also gonna be That's also gonna be a lead

1122
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,400
for Lamar. He's not been a timing timing and rhythm

1123
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,000
thrower and stuff that's not Lamar Jackson. So it's also

1124
00:57:13,039 --> 00:57:15,719
gonna be like like people are talking about Jalen Hurts

1125
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,000
has so much growth to make to adjust to like

1126
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,880
over the middle in this sewn Manyon scheme, it's like

1127
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:25,920
it's not being talked enough about. Like Lamar Jackson is

1128
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,880
also going to have hurdles to cross with Declan Doyle's

1129
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,719
scheme if it truly is a lot of picking and

1130
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,840
choosing of Ben Johnson and timing based offense and stuff

1131
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,639
like that. Like but again it's it's not it's not

1132
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,119
baked in his ADP or his ranks, Like all of

1133
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:46,440
the upside for Lamar Jackson is being squeezed out at

1134
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:49,679
QB two, but none of the risk or anything else

1135
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,960
is being equated into where he's being ranked or drafted.

1136
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:53,800
And that's where it's.

1137
00:57:53,679 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: Like, do you think do you think Lamar is is

1138
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,199
not done running? But do you think that like that

1139
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,880
being a major part of his game is gonna go

1140
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,920
by the wayside.

1141
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna go by the wayside, but

1142
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:14,039
I like I do think that there is something to

1143
00:58:14,119 --> 00:58:16,480
the truth of Lamar Jackson, Like if you look over

1144
00:58:16,519 --> 00:58:19,719
the last few years, like he's not Like I don't

1145
00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:21,480
think they're gonna pound him in at the goal line

1146
00:58:21,719 --> 00:58:22,679
it was three hundred.

1147
00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:25,079
Speaker 3: Well, he hasn't been doing that like for the last

1148
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:26,360
couple of years and really never.

1149
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,519
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying, like the rushing touchdowns the last

1150
00:58:28,519 --> 00:58:31,679
few years are two, three, five, four, and two, and

1151
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:34,039
so if he doesn't get back into like being a

1152
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:35,280
nine hundred.

1153
00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 3: The rushing yards last year, yeah, So that's the thing

1154
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:40,679
is I think with I think if his legs are

1155
00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:42,519
healthy coming in the season, we get back to that

1156
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,000
is probably never gonna get back to like eight hundred

1157
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:45,639
and nine.

1158
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: It's never gonna get back to like if you look

1159
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,920
at a per game basis, if you look on a

1160
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,519
per game basis, like fifty three yards per game in

1161
00:58:52,559 --> 00:58:55,320
twenty twenty four, fifty one yards per game in twenty

1162
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,000
twenty three, I don't think we're gonna get back to

1163
00:58:58,239 --> 00:59:01,480
the previous realm of sixty three, sixty three point nine

1164
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,519
sixty seven eighty. I don't think we're getting anywhere close

1165
00:59:04,519 --> 00:59:06,559
to that. Can he get back to where he's living

1166
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:08,360
in like the fifty range, I.

1167
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,239
Speaker 3: Think that could happen, all right, So I know you

1168
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,239
have a heart out, so let's get your other two

1169
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,960
hates and then I'll go through mine pretty quickly. Here.

1170
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:20,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's Chewba Hubbard. The Jonathan Brooks case is

1171
00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:23,679
also an anti Chewba Hubbard case. I just don't think

1172
00:59:23,679 --> 00:59:26,599
that people really understand that Chewba Hubbard, amongst forty nine

1173
00:59:26,679 --> 00:59:30,360
qualifying backs last year, was dead last to miss tackles

1174
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:35,760
force per atent. He had zero explosive runs Scott on

1175
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:41,239
over one hundred and thirty carries. He was also he

1176
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,679
was also forty seventh yards of the contact Pert tempt

1177
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,719
So basically every protect pertuct metric that you care about

1178
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:50,079
that says, oh, you're good and you can create yards

1179
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:53,320
on your own, he sucked that. So it's like, if

1180
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,039
Jonathan Brooks is truly healthy, which I think he is. Yeah,

1181
00:59:57,079 --> 00:59:58,920
I think this is gonna be his backfilm and he's

1182
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,840
gonna smash this year. Any quick thoughts about Chuba before

1183
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,320
I kicked this over to Travis A.

1184
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 3: Chan. I I'm not a Cuba truther, but I feel

1185
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,920
like I am because I have him ranked I think

1186
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,199
higher than most other people. And it's not that I

1187
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,400
love Chuba. I do think He's better than being credit

1188
01:00:17,679 --> 01:00:20,639
given credit for this, this bad explosion rate, this bad

1189
01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:23,639
miss tackles force rate. This dude basically came into the

1190
01:00:23,639 --> 01:00:25,480
season with a calf injury and I don't think he

1191
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:28,880
ever recovered from it. That's why Rico got the big

1192
01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:31,519
recovery as well. And I think we just don't know

1193
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:34,719
what we're getting from Brooks. I'm I'm fine with people

1194
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,679
speculating on him. I talked to Deepak Shona on Monday.

1195
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,239
That show aired on Wednesday on Fantasy Pros.

1196
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,639
Speaker 2: And what did say about the A C L and stuff.

1197
01:00:43,639 --> 01:00:46,079
Speaker 3: I'm there he felt very good.

1198
01:00:46,159 --> 01:00:48,159
Speaker 2: Because if you look at his recovery time for him,

1199
01:00:48,199 --> 01:00:51,079
he should be one hundred percent right now. They're just

1200
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:53,239
treating him a and I'm fine with that.

1201
01:00:53,719 --> 01:00:56,679
Speaker 3: But we have no idea what Jonathan Brooks is at

1202
01:00:56,679 --> 01:00:59,400
the NFL level at this point right because he's coming

1203
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,599
off of major injury. He only played one season at

1204
01:01:02,679 --> 01:01:05,559
Texas as a starter, and it really was an eight

1205
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:07,840
game stretch. He looked great, but it was an eight

1206
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,920
game stretch behind one of the best offensive lines in

1207
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,119
college football, right, so I do wonder what he's going

1208
01:01:13,159 --> 01:01:16,000
to look like behind you know, an average NFL offensive

1209
01:01:16,039 --> 01:01:19,199
line now that Ikey is hurt, and you know behind

1210
01:01:19,239 --> 01:01:22,360
Chuba Hubbard a veteran. So I my I think my

1211
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,880
answer for Carolina is probably just don't take a lot

1212
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,719
of players from Carolina this year.

1213
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I mean for me with Carolina, it's draft

1214
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,639
Jamin Coker if you need a wide receiver late, and

1215
01:01:31,719 --> 01:01:34,719
draft Jonathan Brooks aggressively. And that's it for Carolina. Like

1216
01:01:35,199 --> 01:01:37,480
I'm not drafting anybody else out of the freaking offense.

1217
01:01:37,639 --> 01:01:40,239
Speaker 3: Who's next or who's last? I guess on your on

1218
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,159
your hate list here.

1219
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,519
Speaker 2: Travis cham Baby and people have been looking at him

1220
01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:49,480
the entire offseason like Alvin Kamara does not exist. And

1221
01:01:49,559 --> 01:01:52,519
I'm here to tell you Alvin Kamara exists. He's not

1222
01:01:52,639 --> 01:01:55,039
going away, like he's going to play a role in

1223
01:01:55,039 --> 01:01:56,599
this backfield. And it was.

1224
01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 3: Surprising that they restructured him a little bit. I thought,

1225
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:01,239
I mean, I didn't.

1226
01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:03,039
Speaker 2: Think he was gonna get cut like I then that's

1227
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,119
kind of been my divide between I guess consensus and

1228
01:02:06,119 --> 01:02:10,199
and you know the space. Yeah yeah, Well the thing

1229
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:13,119
about it is, dude, he's beloved in New Orleans. He

1230
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,840
is a saint for life, like he would retire. But

1231
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,000
like legit, like all that talk about he would retire

1232
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,199
if they would trade him or something like that. I

1233
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:26,199
fully believe that, like he is ingrained in that city,

1234
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,320
that city's fiber dude, Like that's just who he is

1235
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,679
and with the team he wants to play for. But

1236
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,559
in all of that, I don't think anybody can honestly

1237
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:39,159
give you a good faith conversation and and look at

1238
01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:41,119
you in the in the face, Scott, and tell you

1239
01:02:41,159 --> 01:02:44,719
that Travis chan is a better receiver than Alvin Kamara.

1240
01:02:45,079 --> 01:02:47,519
That and and yes we've had a fall off for

1241
01:02:47,559 --> 01:02:51,079
Alvin Kamara as far as like oh his per touch efficiency,

1242
01:02:51,159 --> 01:02:54,400
mistackles force and stuff like that. Bro, he's still elite

1243
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,320
when you when you talk about him as a as

1244
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,920
a receiver, he's still really freaking good as a receiver.

1245
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,920
Like we look on a per touch basis, This dude

1246
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,599
was still really stinking good last year like he was.

1247
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:11,239
So I think it's two forward for Travis H. Chan. One,

1248
01:03:11,639 --> 01:03:13,840
he's gonna have his work eaten into It's not a

1249
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:18,000
question for me if, but how much by Alvin Kamara,

1250
01:03:18,079 --> 01:03:21,280
and especially on the passing downs, but maybe also in

1251
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,639
the red zone, but also Travis y Chan was bad

1252
01:03:24,719 --> 01:03:27,000
on a per touch basis last year. He just gobbled

1253
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:29,000
up a crap ton of volume and got the goal

1254
01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:32,119
line work dude like he was thirty seven then explosive

1255
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:34,760
run rate, thirty first to misstackle rate, and thirty fourth

1256
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,639
in yards of to contact for attempt. So it's not

1257
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,760
like he was good on a per touch basis. So like,

1258
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,440
if you look at this, like, I'm like, invest in

1259
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,119
the passing options for the normand Saints this year. I'm

1260
01:03:48,159 --> 01:03:51,639
just avoiding the backfield just all together because I think

1261
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,119
week to week it's gonna be a mess. I think

1262
01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:57,039
if Alvin Kamara plays the elevated passing game role, it

1263
01:03:57,079 --> 01:04:00,039
depends on like script and you know who's on the

1264
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:03,079
field for the red zone stuff. It's like and then

1265
01:04:03,199 --> 01:04:05,920
it's like, if you look at the actual nuts and

1266
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,079
bolts of the contract that they gave Travis etend Like,

1267
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,119
it wasn't like they gave him like this exorbitant amount

1268
01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:16,000
of money, Scott, Like if you really open up the

1269
01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:19,920
hood and look at his contract, like they can get

1270
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,079
out of this contract after twenty twenty seven, So this

1271
01:04:23,199 --> 01:04:27,800
puffed up four year deal after this year, or excuse me,

1272
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,199
after twenty twenty seven, so he's got two years after

1273
01:04:31,239 --> 01:04:34,960
that he has zero dead cat My man, they cut

1274
01:04:35,039 --> 01:04:35,840
him after is.

1275
01:04:36,719 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 3: You think he's insurance in case Alvin Kamara is just

1276
01:04:39,519 --> 01:04:43,480
hurt more than he is, like an automatic plug and

1277
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:44,039
play starter.

1278
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: I think that they this backfield is much gonna gonna

1279
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,639
be much more of a committee money than people than

1280
01:04:51,719 --> 01:04:54,840
people realize. I think it's gonna be so much more

1281
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,840
situational based. I think we could also see a bunch

1282
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,360
of twenty one personnel where we're getting to run backs

1283
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,760
on the field with Kevin Moore and stuff. So like,

1284
01:05:03,079 --> 01:05:07,639
I think Kamara's role is going to be enough that

1285
01:05:07,719 --> 01:05:10,480
if people are looking at Travis Chan as being this

1286
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:13,960
guy that is going to be this locked in definitive

1287
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:16,960
like getting all the freaking touches type of volume back,

1288
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,159
I don't see that. I think you're gonna see like

1289
01:05:20,199 --> 01:05:23,159
a lesser version of like a Kyra and Williams where

1290
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,639
there's a Blake Korham like, but it's Alvin Kamara eating

1291
01:05:26,639 --> 01:05:30,039
into the work, except Blake Koram doesn't catch any damn passes. Well,

1292
01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:34,679
guess what, right, that's that's Alvin Kamara's m O baby dude.

1293
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:36,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I tell you what, I'm going to

1294
01:05:36,599 --> 01:05:38,440
do this because you're the Saints fan and you know

1295
01:05:38,519 --> 01:05:40,760
better than me. I'm gonna move him. I had him

1296
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,239
at the bottom of a tier. I'm just going to

1297
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:43,679
drop him to the top of the next year.

1298
01:05:44,119 --> 01:05:46,159
Speaker 2: I have him at RB twenty four right now. I'm

1299
01:05:47,679 --> 01:05:50,880
but no, on'm behind. Where's he at an ECR I'm looking, Oh,

1300
01:05:51,039 --> 01:05:54,760
at eighteen he's eighteen right now? So wow. Yeah, so

1301
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:57,239
I'm dropping him to the back end of RB two

1302
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,559
land and I'm willing to drop him further like they're

1303
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:04,119
just some other guys whore like Price.

1304
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:05,079
Speaker 3: Would you rather have?

1305
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have Bucket. I moved Bucky yesterday, one spot

1306
01:06:08,239 --> 01:06:09,719
ahead of him at RB twenty three.

1307
01:06:10,119 --> 01:06:12,119
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I have Bucky at eighteen. So I am high.

1308
01:06:12,159 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: I'll give you another name that I'd rather have because

1309
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,599
I think that the consensus is wrong on them, because

1310
01:06:16,599 --> 01:06:18,079
I think he's gonna get all the freaking ball. I

1311
01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:19,840
have twenty poward comfortably ahead of him.

1312
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,199
Speaker 3: Pollard. Okay, I think I'm gonna say Montgomery.

1313
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,159
Speaker 2: So oh, Dave Montgomery is crushing him, by the way.

1314
01:06:25,159 --> 01:06:26,840
I have Dave Montgomery at RB seventeen.

1315
01:06:27,239 --> 01:06:28,159
Speaker 3: I know you're high.

1316
01:06:28,199 --> 01:06:30,679
Speaker 2: I love Montgomery, love Montgomery, all right, So.

1317
01:06:30,679 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you my hates real quick. And I

1318
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,880
think I have these number of these players a lot,

1319
01:06:35,639 --> 01:06:39,000
so they're not uh, they're a little repeating for me.

1320
01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:42,079
But we already talked about Josh downs. Here's the numbers

1321
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:44,480
that make me not like Josh. Towns eighty five and

1322
01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:48,079
a ninety seven. Qualified wide receivers in YAK per reception

1323
01:06:48,159 --> 01:06:51,840
two and a half and eighty two of ninety seven

1324
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,000
in a DOT at eight point four is ECR right

1325
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:57,199
now is wide receiver forty seven, which makes him a

1326
01:06:57,199 --> 01:06:59,599
low end wide receiver four. I don't hate him at

1327
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:02,480
the call. I'm just not gonna be rostering that much.

1328
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:07,840
I mean, most low YAKT per reception guys are high

1329
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,400
in a DOT. The only guy that was lower than

1330
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,000
him or as low as him in both of these

1331
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,280
was Tyler Lockett from last year. And they talk about

1332
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,280
moving him outside. You get better corners that are stickier

1333
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,559
on the outside. And this dude has a forty two

1334
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:27,119
and a half percent contested catch rate right which is

1335
01:07:27,199 --> 01:07:27,760
not great.

1336
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 2: Can't stay healthy either, Scott can't stay healthy.

1337
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, exception was higher in twenty three and twenty four

1338
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:40,639
it was five point six to four and five point four,

1339
01:07:41,639 --> 01:07:44,480
but his A dot was also not great then, Like

1340
01:07:45,719 --> 01:07:50,639
I think I think Warren pushed him further down as

1341
01:07:50,639 --> 01:07:52,559
far as A dot goes, and a guy that can't

1342
01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:55,719
break tackles that, okay, what are we getting. We're not

1343
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,000
getting ends on targets. All we're getting is maybe receptions.

1344
01:07:59,159 --> 01:08:02,159
So like, what's his ceiling at that point? Is Wandell Robinson.

1345
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:07,199
So just not my family. No, I agree, Bachelle Tuton.

1346
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,639
I don't know where you're at on him, but.

1347
01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: I like Baseel Tutan, so we can fight about him,

1348
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:13,599
but I like him.

1349
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 3: It's not that I necessarily dislike base Sheelle Tutan, and

1350
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,560
I do expect him to lead the Jags in UH

1351
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,239
carries this year and touches, but I just don't think

1352
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:27,560
he's way better than Chris Rodriguez. And I think the

1353
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,039
numbers show that fifty six in explosive run percentage last

1354
01:08:31,119 --> 01:08:34,239
year one point two percent of his runs, sea Rod

1355
01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:36,560
was thirty fifth at three point six, so he better

1356
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:41,760
than doubles that fifth and success rank for Tuton. That's

1357
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,159
a good number, but sea Rod was better. He was

1358
01:08:44,199 --> 01:08:48,680
fourth in success rate. Uh same mistackles force per attempt

1359
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,920
as Sea Rod zero point one eight. That's a good number.

1360
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,680
They're both tied for eleventh, but Tuton doesn't push Sea

1361
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,800
Rod out of the way with this number. Uh yards

1362
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,279
after contact per attempt It was eighteenth for Tuton, second

1363
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,399
for Sea Rod last year inside the five percentage, twenty

1364
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,439
fifth or forty ninth at twenty five percent for our

1365
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,720
boy Tuton. It was twenty ninth to forty two point

1366
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,600
four percent for Sea Rod. And uh, I hate that

1367
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:19,800
Tuton only had thirteen targets last year. Alan had ten,

1368
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,479
Sea Rod with four. So Tuton had fifty catches in college,

1369
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,279
but la Quinn Allen had one hundred and nineteen.

1370
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,039
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about Allen.

1371
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:31,319
Speaker 3: I'll definitely tell you okay, But what about a mir

1372
01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:34,199
Abdulla who's had two hundred nineteen catches since twenty fifteen

1373
01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:36,840
and is on the roster. That might be your receiving back.

1374
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:41,399
So Sea Rod is gonna get goal line carries. In

1375
01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:45,159
my opinion, I think that neither one of them is

1376
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:48,640
receiving back. Maybe Touton more than Sea Rod, of course,

1377
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,039
but I think Alan or Abdullah come in on those

1378
01:09:52,079 --> 01:09:55,079
receiving downs, and so what is left for Tuton. It's

1379
01:09:55,119 --> 01:09:58,840
between the twenties and he wasn't insanely efficient, So I'm

1380
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,720
just not I want to be rostering base shell Tuton.

1381
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,920
I think the answer in Jacksonville is almost only Trevor

1382
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,840
Lawrence this year, because we don't know how the wide

1383
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,520
receivers are going to work. They want to use BTJ

1384
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:15,159
on this thirteen personnel, which takes you know, Parker Washington,

1385
01:10:15,159 --> 01:10:17,680
who is their best wide receiver off the field, and

1386
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,399
Jacoby Myners played more than Parker Washington down the stretch

1387
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,439
and they re signed him to an extension. So I

1388
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,279
don't like the mess of the wide receivers. I don't

1389
01:10:25,279 --> 01:10:26,560
like the mess of the running backs. I feel like

1390
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,399
t law is the only Jag I'm going to roster

1391
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,319
this season. Quick thoughts on Tooton and then I'll give

1392
01:10:31,359 --> 01:10:32,119
you my two tight ends.

1393
01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: The small pushback about in all your numbers and we're

1394
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,159
bringing up all these heavy analytics because Liam Cohen and

1395
01:10:38,199 --> 01:10:40,520
James Gladstone have already come out in the media and

1396
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,279
said we care about these numbers too. To your point,

1397
01:10:43,399 --> 01:10:45,800
now splitting hairs too. With all of this and we're

1398
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,880
talking about the inside the twenty work. You look at

1399
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,119
red zone red zone carries last year, Bachiel Tooton had

1400
01:10:52,159 --> 01:10:54,920
a higher success rate and a lower stuff rate than

1401
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,439
Chris Rodriguez. Both of them were very good, but Bachiel

1402
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,760
Tooton was better, So that's probably yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just think that they're not. Neither one

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01:11:03,039 --> 01:11:05,439
of them pushes each other off of carries, which is

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annoying them. Eat.

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01:11:07,039 --> 01:11:10,239
Speaker 2: The nightmare scenario for Basil Tuton, and this is easy

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01:11:10,279 --> 01:11:12,960
to see. And I've said this before and I'll say

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it again here. The nightmare scenario for Bachel Tutin is

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01:11:16,359 --> 01:11:21,439
that he is Jacksonville's Kenneth Walker. Yes, yes, that's the

1410
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,439
nightmare scenario. That Chris Rodriguez is cannibalize them in the

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01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,640
goal line. He's getting all the freaking work at the

1412
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:29,720
goal line. He won't get any work on passing down,

1413
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,760
so we know that is try and true. But he

1414
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,640
capsizes his touchdown when he crushes him into being just

1415
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,159
a fall in dependent RB three's That's that's the worry.

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01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm piling on with my last two

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01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,439
guys because I feel like they've both gott a decent

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01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:45,359
amount of hate.

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Speaker 2: Here, no, but I agree with these calls.

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01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 3: Roderick, gadsman Man and dal Kink. These are the two

1421
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tight ends that I just don't like this year. Gadson,

1422
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,800
twenty six point one percent of his production came in

1423
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:01,720
two big games last week seven and eight. He had

1424
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,239
a tight end one finish twenty five point nine points

1425
01:12:04,279 --> 01:12:07,079
and a sixteen point two for a tight end four finish.

1426
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,600
He had one other tight end one finish in all

1427
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,720
of the season, and it was Championship Week, but he

1428
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,760
was tight end eleven. It was ten point seven points,

1429
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,640
so not even you know, a difference maker for Championship Week.

1430
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,640
He for sure helped you, but he wasn't a difference maker.

1431
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,119
And he had seven finishes as tight end twenty five

1432
01:12:26,319 --> 01:12:30,000
or lower last year, five weekly finishes between thirteen and

1433
01:12:30,039 --> 01:12:33,119
twenty four, and only the three as a tight end one.

1434
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,239
And I think Trey Harris is going to have an

1435
01:12:35,279 --> 01:12:38,279
expanded role. I think QJ might get better. We know

1436
01:12:38,359 --> 01:12:41,319
that McDaniel's obsessed with Brendan Thompson, who ran the crazy

1437
01:12:41,359 --> 01:12:45,520
fast forty times as well. So I just don't like

1438
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,960
Gaston and Kincaid. My issues here are snap percentage right

1439
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:54,359
four games over fifty percent snapshare in twenty twenty five. Now, look,

1440
01:12:54,399 --> 01:12:56,920
we all know he was dealing with the PCL injury, but.

1441
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,119
Speaker 2: He's hurt every year though, yeah.

1442
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,039
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four. In twenty twenty four, he had

1443
01:13:02,199 --> 01:13:04,920
over fifty percent snaps in eight of the first ten weeks,

1444
01:13:05,319 --> 01:13:08,880
but after that only one game after an injury. And

1445
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,920
in twenty twenty three he had over fifty percent snaps

1446
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,239
in eighteen of nineteen games played. But Joe Brady took

1447
01:13:15,239 --> 01:13:18,119
over in twenty twenty four, so he's never had a

1448
01:13:18,159 --> 01:13:20,800
high snap share with Joe Brady. Joe Brady is back,

1449
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,279
and the bill's out of Dj Moore and skylear Bell,

1450
01:13:23,359 --> 01:13:27,039
who I love. So I think there's fewer targets to

1451
01:13:27,079 --> 01:13:29,439
go to Kincaid. We know they love using Jackson haws

1452
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,079
to block. We know Dawson Knox is not that far

1453
01:13:32,119 --> 01:13:35,119
behind in talent of Kinkaid. Maybe, by the way, maybe

1454
01:13:35,159 --> 01:13:38,079
Knox is far behind in talent, but you wouldn't know

1455
01:13:38,199 --> 01:13:41,000
it because Kinkaid is always banged up. So, and he

1456
01:13:41,039 --> 01:13:43,359
didn't have surgery on this PCL thing. He decided to

1457
01:13:43,399 --> 01:13:47,640
go through whatever the other treatment was he for his

1458
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:51,520
PCL strain. Which is probably eventually gonna need some surgery.

1459
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,520
So I'm just not gonna be stuck holding the bag

1460
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,800
with Gadston. I'm not gonna be stuck holding ball the

1461
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,560
bag with Dalton Kincaid either. I think I'm just out

1462
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,279
for twenty twenty six for these guys.

1463
01:14:01,319 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 2: To your point about both of those guys, we always

1464
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,920
talk about, you know, volume as king, and it gets

1465
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,039
phrased and framed around running back volume and stuff like that,

1466
01:14:09,119 --> 01:14:11,640
but it's true for everything. And the reason I'm bringing

1467
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,159
up for both of these guys is volume is king

1468
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,720
volume of routes, Like you have to be on the

1469
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,800
field running routes to earn targets and score Fantasy points.

1470
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,880
And if you're not out there running routes, you can't

1471
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,560
get targeted, you can't score Fantasy points. And I think

1472
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,680
to your point, both of these guys are going to

1473
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:32,720
be in three way committees with their teams. It just

1474
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,600
depends on how what does that committee look like and

1475
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,840
how much are they going to get used and stuff

1476
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,279
like that. And like we're going to see a ton

1477
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,319
anybody that still believes in Ronda Gatzt, and you're going

1478
01:14:43,399 --> 01:14:45,359
to see so much more Charlie Kohler and David and

1479
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,840
Joku in your life than you want to. This year,

1480
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,520
it is going to make it sick. It's going to

1481
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,159
be just like Seattle was if yesteryear or the Rams

1482
01:14:53,159 --> 01:14:55,680
were last year, or even this year. It's like, you know,

1483
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,840
I just don't the dalkon kin k thing. Dude. If

1484
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:01,960
I if you could tell me he would be a

1485
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,239
full time player and he'd stay healthy, I'd have him

1486
01:15:04,279 --> 01:15:06,920
ranked as a top three tight end. I have him.

1487
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Dallas Goddard still even.

1488
01:15:12,119 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 2: Give me great doublestitch like I finde boy John Johnson

1489
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,680
probably still right Like there's there's players I'm taking over

1490
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:21,279
these tight ends.

1491
01:15:21,319 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 3: So I'm not going to be in the bag with

1492
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,399
those three guys. But that is everything. De bro. Please

1493
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,520
plug everything that you're doing right now, my friend, and

1494
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,000
thank you so much for coming on.

1495
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 2: True love you brother, truly truly appreciate the time. Anytime

1496
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,600
we get a chance to talk ball. What's a blessing

1497
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,560
in a great day, man. All the works at Fantasy pros,

1498
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,960
all my stuff is like for the most part, is

1499
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,319
all live in the draft kit right now. Uh So

1500
01:15:43,399 --> 01:15:46,000
my perfect draft article walks you through every single round

1501
01:15:46,039 --> 01:15:48,079
of the draft. I will give that a spit shine

1502
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,640
over the next two weeks, probably at a few more players.

1503
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,920
I think right now I've got over eighty players in

1504
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,680
that as well as my players to avoid article, my

1505
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,079
cheat sheets, live, all that stuff, and like I teased

1506
01:16:01,119 --> 01:16:02,960
at the top of this, my top two hundred will

1507
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,159
be live and with the Perfect Draft article and the

1508
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:08,920
top two hundred. My aim for both of these things

1509
01:16:09,159 --> 01:16:11,960
is I don't want people to have to walk into

1510
01:16:12,039 --> 01:16:14,840
their drafts with like one hundred freaking tabs open and

1511
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,720
all so the kind of crap and stuff like that.

1512
01:16:17,119 --> 01:16:19,960
Use the tools of fantasy pros. Use the Perfect Draft

1513
01:16:20,039 --> 01:16:23,000
article or the Top two hundred. Use either one of those.

1514
01:16:23,039 --> 01:16:25,479
And I think that like that's literally the two to

1515
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,920
three resources that you need to absolutely just crush people

1516
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:29,800
in your leagues this year.

1517
01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely. And thank you so much again for coming on

1518
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,239
and giving us the time and putting all these numbers together.

1519
01:16:36,319 --> 01:16:38,520
I know this is a lot of research for a

1520
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:39,159
show like this.

1521
01:16:39,239 --> 01:16:41,199
Speaker 2: Oh this is easy. I was just picking apart crap

1522
01:16:41,239 --> 01:16:43,760
I've already done for the whole off season. Baby, this

1523
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,640
is good. This is easy, easy street.

1524
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 3: I love easy work. Easy work. That's right. So my

1525
01:16:49,119 --> 01:16:51,159
rankings are available at in this League dot com. You

1526
01:16:51,159 --> 01:16:54,039
guys can check them out there. I'm updating them constantly,

1527
01:16:54,079 --> 01:16:56,039
but I will give it a fresh coat of paint

1528
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,159
it probably after next weekend, and you can find me

1529
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:03,000
on a lot of shows coming up over on Betting

1530
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,039
Pros and FP I'm covering leading off this week. College

1531
01:17:07,039 --> 01:17:10,199
football is going to be returning to Fantasy Pros this

1532
01:17:10,239 --> 01:17:13,000
week as well with myself and Seth Wolcock for a

1533
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,520
couple of shows. Dynasty is Hot and Heavy. I've got

1534
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,359
three shows there this week as well, So lots and

1535
01:17:20,399 --> 01:17:22,359
lots of content coming out to follow me at bog

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01:17:22,359 --> 01:17:24,399
and Sports. And that is it for us. See you

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01:17:24,399 --> 01:17:25,680
guys next time. Think it easier