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A great, we got the past breakup King, we got
Brian Logan on the live former BA defense back.
Speaker 3: What's that below?
Speaker 4: What's that being? What's going on? Man? Oh?
Speaker 1: Just living the dream man, working and enjoying the snow.
I know you are as well.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't even know it's knowing. Ron just
told me when you call me, I've.
Speaker 1: Been working inside all day. You have to open up
the windows, dude.
Speaker 4: I've been working like Hebrew in the Old Testament. You
know what I'm saying. I need I need Moses to
camp save me. So I'm I'm I'm happy. I'm happy
you wanted me young because it's a nice little uh
little break, little break, Yeah for sure. Oh and by
the way, I was listening earlier. Uh you gotta tell
g man if he if he's gonna sin, he's got
to go all the way through with it, all the way.
Speaker 1: He can't just like show up to the author of
sin and then walk away.
Speaker 4: Are come on, man, you already you already, you already
in like you in was d you might as well.
Speaker 1: I can't believe he admitted to that. He's like, I
went all the way to Healo River Casino. I walked in,
but I didn't do anything.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Do you believe with you buying or
selling that?
Speaker 4: I mean when he said that, I was like, I
finally got a partner to go to uh wind over
with now No, so uh I was kind of excited.
But look, we'll go in the book, in the Book
of Revelation, when you know God is talking to the
seven churches, what's the church that he hates the most,
the one that's luke warm. You gotta choose be hot
or cold? Sin or be good.
Speaker 1: So that's where he fails, the sin or be right.
Speaker 3: Just don't be lukewarm.
Speaker 4: Don't be luke warm.
Speaker 1: U no way, jose Well, there is something to that,
like because you like you have to. When you sin,
you learn real quick that you're like, all right, I
should be doing this. Like there's a repercussion, and it
pushes you towards the righteous lukewarm, you're just kind of
sitting there in between not doing anything, not progressing and
not regressing.
Speaker 3: You're just kind of like, eh, I see.
Speaker 1: Why the Lord said he spew with you out right
if you're lukeath warm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, exactly, that's exactly right, man. And I
think you know when you were parents, so I think
it's more of like you know, when your your your
kids are doing good and they're living righteous and they're
following your your you know, the rule of the house
and everything, yeah, the counsel and everything. You you you know,
you bless them as much as you can. And then
when they're being hard head, it counts to a point
where they're like, You're like, I'm not gonna I'm not
even gonna bother with him no more, you know what
I mean? And Uh, I think you know your hand
gets taken off of yourself, so you you do it initially,
can trust me, I've been there. Initially it does feel
nice and you feel free, but like you said, you
hit rock bottom really fast, especially if you have the knowledge.
But gee, man, if you're listening, Man, when you get
back on free this weekend.
Speaker 1: Be low on the show. Former b YU great below. Uh,
let's talk BYU hooped.
Speaker 3: For a moment. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen this many injuries
from a basketball team. When you see this many injuries right, like,
and there's some non contact ones, you have acls, you
have foot and ankle, you have hand injuries, there's you know,
some contact once as well. Do you begin to wonder like, hey,
is there something a miss? Is there something awry? Are
these just freak accidents? Give me your thoughts on this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm happy you brought that up, man,
because I literally was just thinking about that the other day.
And you and I, we both are very analytical. Data
is key when it comes to decision making and patterns, right,
and so when you look at the injuries, you can
it's very easy to say that something should probably change
within the training room and the staff. I'm not saying
anything on a negative, you know, to anybody specifically, you
know when it comes to that staff or their workout
regiments or anything like that. But you've got to start
taking a look at the data and trying to figure out,
you know, what's really going on. And with BYU football,
we've seen this, you know, I think over the last
ten years and independence right, and they've turned things around tremendously.
You're not getting those same injuries that b YU was
getting before. And I remember that one season where everybody
had like it was like thirteen ankle sprains or something
like that. Something our twenty one ankle sprains. It was.
It was crazy and we were and we were we
were debating like is it the cleats? Is it the grass?
Like what is it? But there's something that's it's something
that's there. Is it the workouts that they're doing? Something new?
And so yeah, you got you gotta definitely take a
look at it and you know, make some changes and
who knows it could it could be the type of
workouts that they're doing. It could be you know, certain
workouts that are back to back, not giving enough guys
rest or maybe they're not, you know, getting strong in
certain areas. It could be a lot of things, man,
So yeah, I agree with you there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, it's it's you know, it got to
be concerned.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I I hate to see all these injuries, devastating, to
see the attrition. And I'm sure they're going to look,
you know, long and deep into this and see what
they can find out from by nutrition strict the conditioning
standpoint and athletic training standpoint, all of those things.
Speaker 4: Hey, well, hey, hey, you heard about the you know,
you know me, I'm I'm a conspiracy guy. Oh he
heard about the conspiracy with the forty nine ers, right.
Speaker 3: Yes, I did. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is there some EMF that we don't know about down
there in Provo?
Speaker 4: It's a thing, it's a thing. So quick story. Oh well,
I don't know about Provo. I'm just saying, I'm just
saying the theory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're a Bay Area you're a Bay Area
boy anyway, right right, right, right.
Speaker 4: Of course, And so so with me. Remember when I
took it like a year and a half, two years
off of media because my health problems. Sure, so so
we gotta be back on my feet and what I
uncovered was that my my I had a lot of
heavy metals in my body. And you can go and
you can get tested right and with with e MS.
If you are in high like radiation areas, it messes
up your it messes up your body, and specifically, it
messes up the water that's that's in your body. And
our body is made up of, you know what, seventy
eighty percent of water, and it takes so it takes
the oxygen out. And when it comes to oxygen and
your cells to actually run right and and produce and
and do your body needs, it's damaged. And so once
I got, once I detox from heavy metals, especially out
of outside of my blood bohen, I got back on
my feet. So you can imagine, you know, pl And
so what I also did, I bought a little tool
on Amazon and you can go and check your radiation
levels all the way around. And so I turned I
turned off my Wi Fi at night. I don't sleep
up my phone. I got blue lights on, I got
blue light glasses, blue light, blue light blocker glasses, a
whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1: I give you that protocol. Man, I may even need
to implement that at my house.
Speaker 4: I got you, dude, Hey, sleep I sleep way better
now like I recovered better faster. It's it's it's crazy, man,
I got.
Speaker 1: We need to implement that, and I think in our home. Man,
I want to I want to make the I need
to make my sleep even better, make my body even better.
Speaker 3: Let's talk to.
Speaker 1: Some camp Killainey twenty twenty six, springball. You know, biggest
question marks for you in spring that you need answered?
Speaker 3: What would they be? And why? Is it?
Speaker 1: QB two? Is it RB two? Is it offensive line?
Is it who who's gonna step up that wide receiver
and and replace Parker Kingston and and Chase Roberts. Is
it something on the defensive side of the ball. Is
it special teams, kicker, punter?
Speaker 3: What do you got?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think for me, the number one thing is
the receiving group. You know, since since Parker left, you know,
he was he was projected to be, you know, the
number one guy this year. And then obviously you know
punt return too, which which sucks you get you get
at least one or two you know, uh touchdowns a
season from him and really good field position. So those
two like punt return, But then obviously you know who's
gonna be the guy who's gonna who's gonna step up?
And I don't know. I like the kid from Oregon.
I saw a couple of highlights on on on Twitter.
I did a little bit of research just when I
was looking through some of the comments, and you know,
a lot of fans and people close to him was like, man,
this is a really athletic kid. He he had a
he had a bright future ahead of him if he
could stay healthy. You know, so we all know that
health plays a huge role, and he could stay healthy,
which I think he can coming over to the b
YU football program and and everything that that you know,
we do for our athletes. So he somebody to keep
an eye on that I'm looking at. But man, you
got a lot of guys that played and have experience,
but not impactful experience, you know what I mean. Like
when you look at the production of guys that are
coming back from a reception standpoint, yard standpoint, I mean
it's not a lot like, yeah, they rotated, yeah they
got snaps, but I mean were they were they impactful production?
And so I would say Jojo is probably another guy
unfortunate that he got hurt last year, because this was
supposed to be his developmental year where you know, he
played his first year, got some snaps here and there,
and then this was the year he was supposed to
figure it out, like the light bulb was supposed to
come come on maybe like week seven week, you know,
week six, and then he was going to hit his stride.
So this year coming in right now, he was supposed
to be one of the dudes. And so you know,
the year he was supposed to have this year, he's
going to have, I believe next year. So I think
you look for him to turn it on the middle
of the season. But I think those are the two
guys that I would be I'd be leaning on the most.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like that breakdown. I think you're on point with it.
And Uh, I wanted to ask you this question. We're
getting into like the way too early prognostication. Uh. I'm
asking about quotas. Uh, win win quotas, And for me,
quota means quota does not equal like your expectation of
like regular season wins. Like it's not an expectation, it's
more so like your sales guy, you've been in sales before.
It's like the threshold of wins needed to be reached
where you're kind of satisfied with the regular season and
you're not.
Speaker 3: Trying to fire coaches.
Speaker 1: That it's like the minimum like where you're like, you're
not gonna get You're not like having people get up
in it up roar about like firing coaches and things
of that nature. So with that being said, what is
your minimum win total for like quota in twenty twenty six?
Way too early, I know, uh, in order to kind
of that's satisfactory, and that's satisfactor. You're gonna keep your job, right,
mister salesman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you know my formula man like minimum
for for any any given time, any given situation for
any season is Bowl game always, Okay, So it's just
it's just six wins. However, I know I know you're not.
I know you well enough to I know that that's
not the answer that you're looking for. So I'm gonna
give you the answer you're looking for. I'm gonna say, well.
Speaker 1: You know what you can say expectation. Let's do quota
quota for you. Six six games won in the regular season.
What about expectation? What's your expectation for b YU and
the regular season.
Speaker 4: Man if if if coach Hill was coming back, I
would say conference championship appearance. Minimum minimum would be appearance.
If you lose, you lose. But and this is nothing
to take away from k Pop. You know he was
he was a ga when I played and uh when
when when Bronco took over the defense in twenty ten,
he became the linebackers coach and he was a part
of that turnaround season which him and Bronco still to
this day say that those were the that season right
there was their favorite season, you know, because of the
adversity that we went through. So everybody on everybody on
that team and staff that was part of that program
at that time got extremely close, like a like a
Disney movie or something like a script from the Disney movie.
So I don't mean this in a negative way, but
you know, it's his first year. I know he'll have
some help, you know. I think personally another conspiracy is
maybe Gary Anderson, you know, secretly calls the plays behind
the scenes, and then K Pop is is learning and
getting mentored and it's just going to be the face.
So that gives me a little bit more, you know confidence,
But at the same time, it's the same philosophy. I
don't think he's gonna do any thing different, at least
I want it initially because he's having a lot of
the same guys that are coming back, plus the up
and coming guys guys that are twos and threes that
have you know, they're starting to get experience within the
playbook and the scheme as well. So with that being said,
I would say, I would say, man, I think it's hard.
It's hard, dude. I would say nine wins. I would
say nine wins.
Speaker 3: Nine wins. That's that's kind of where I'm at too.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, like, you know, nine wins to me, like,
and I know, I'm kind of going between quota and expectation.
To me, it is like nine wins gives you an
opportunity to get to ten in another double digit win season.
Speaker 3: That's that. That's kind of like.
Speaker 1: Where I'm at with like quota and expectations with all
the returning talent coming back and all the returning coaching
talent coming back right now, That's kind of how I'm feeling, Like, Look,
you get to nine wins, I'm like, dude, that's a
great regular season in a Big twelve in the in
the Power for Conference.
Speaker 4: And and and we're at the point now where where
BYU's lost war games in three years right.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, in the last two years, right.
Speaker 4: Two years, two years like and and you think about recruiting,
is you know, really starting to take off. I would
even say it hit its peak. I would say it's
taken off, you know, based off of what BYU can
do and the potential with when it comes to nil
and getting a lot more lds. You know, players that
are five stars, not just in Utah but throughout the nation.
And we have proof of seeing that. So I think
b YU is at a point where we not only
us as fans we expected, but they're starting to turn
some heads, you know when it comes to some national analysts,
especially after what happened with with b YU once again,
you know, looking up at the outside looking in, you
know when it uh when it comes to uh, you know,
getting into the playoffs for the second year. And I
think they're starting to get that same with respect and
so I think the programs at a time where it's
like many we're here like like you or not, are
deeping to the coordinator gone who cares? Roy receiver one.
He's the one that was projected to be number one.
He's you know gone, and we we pray for him,
we love him and wish him the best of luck, uh,
you know moving forward with where he's about to uh
about to face. But like we're here, we're a program
where there's not just one guy or one coach or
one scenario that's going to make our breakings. We we've
established and built ourselves up, you know enough to where
we're starting to get national recognition. We have the athletes
and the players, and we're a really stable point. So
I just don't feel like there's any excuses.
Speaker 1: No excuses, play like a champion below. Final thing. Basketball talk,
who's uh who's getting to start?
Speaker 3: I don't know if they've said it, who's getting the start?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: In in the absence of Richie Saunders, I think it's
Tyler Morass. Is he getting to start getting a few
more minix? We're gonna see maybe a different lineup with that,
Maybe a defensive Hadeem.
Speaker 3: Boop getting some PT.
Speaker 1: Could you see uh Hailobuskovic or a Lexigostick see some
more PT? What do you what do you think what's
gonna happen with the lineup and who starts in the
replacement of Richie.
Speaker 4: So who who was the kids that that that hit
the three? And at the.
Speaker 3: End it was it was Alexa Coostic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like I like him. I like him a lot.
I like his confidence. But personally, if it was if
it was me, I would go more on the defensive side.
And that's just because I want, you know, I want
my top I want my top scorers to to play
offense and the and the focus on offense, and so
I'll bring a defensive guy in and say, look, this
is your role, this is your responsibility. We don't really
care too much.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: From an offensive standpoint, I would tell, you know, Rib
and AJ shoot the ball like crazy, preserve your your
energy for for offense, because you know we're gonna need it.
And then I would I would if I was Ky,
I would I would find maybe a couple of guys,
you know, by committee, maybe three four guys and assignment
rolls and say, hey, these are the things that Richie
did and what he did well specifically, you're gonna take
on this role. You You're gonna take on this role.
You're gonna take on this role so when they get
into the game. That's all we want you to do
is this assignment, and we'll do we'll we'll take over
or we'll try to replace him. There's no replacing Richie,
but we'll try to replace him as much as we
can by doing it, you know, by committee. But at
the end of the day, I want my I want
my shooters to shoot shoots.
Speaker 1: Gotta shoot, baby, h be Low, always a pleasure, always
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