WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:01.600 Oh bed of that are. 2 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:48.679 Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult 3 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:52.960 of Conspiracy. And my name's Jonathan, I'm Jacob and today 4 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:56.280 we got jewels from the Gray Pilled podcast. 5 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:57.520 What a do homide? 6 00:00:57.960 --> 00:00:59.159 What's going on? Boys? 7 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:03.079 We are man, Oh, there's there's a lot of shit 8 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:05.640 that is up right now. I feel like it's only 9 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:09.359 gonna even get more upier and shittier if you will. 10 00:01:09.959 --> 00:01:12.599 And and yeah, we're excited to have you. This our 11 00:01:12.640 --> 00:01:13.959 first time having you on the show. 12 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:16.599 And uh, we're excited to be here. I know you 13 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:20.120 get into all him for like almost thirty I know, yeah, 14 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:21.680 almost before. 15 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:24.640 So what are the chances that our paths have crossed 16 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:27.239 in the ways that they have? Like so for anybody 17 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:30.480 before the show started, come to find out he and 18 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:31.480 I here. 19 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:33.680 Your boy Jules has crossed into the same path. 20 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:36.200 There was a place called the Dark Room in Baton Rouge, 21 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:38.840 Man where metal and hardcore music used to be played. 22 00:01:38.879 --> 00:01:41.000 Come to find out our boy used to be a 23 00:01:41.079 --> 00:01:44.480 drummer in Abandon had played at that very dive once 24 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:44.959 or twice. 25 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:47.519 And I mean, it's just it's crazy how small the 26 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:48.560 world really is. Bro. 27 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:51.239 I'm gonna be honest this whole weekend. I just spent 28 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:52.879 it with a bunch of people who I had never 29 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:53.439 met before. 30 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:55.000 As soon as we started. 31 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:59.200 Barely bringing up the topic of something conspiratorial, something just 32 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:02.280 kind of questioned narrative. Dude, every dad, I swear to god, 33 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:04.280 it's like a homing beacon. As soon as they hear 34 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:07.640 something about Trump, something about the elections, something about COVID, 35 00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:10.199 they just all slowly but surely make their way in 36 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:13.280 and come to find out half of these people had 37 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:15.960 worked at similar job sites that I've been on. We 38 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:19.400 meet somebody via podcast, somebody we had never met before. 39 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:21.560 Come to find out, Bro, we basically have been in 40 00:02:21.599 --> 00:02:23.080 the same neighborhood for years. 41 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.199 It's wild, Yeah. 42 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:29.879 Dude, you find you find out a lot, especially nowadays. Man, 43 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:32.479 it seems like these synchronicities come up all the time 44 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:36.039 with people, especially in our community as well. When I 45 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:40.080 started podcasting, you know, I had I started meeting just people, 46 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:43.240 you know, just shooting people messages and seeing if they 47 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:45.719 wanted to come on or because I was a fan 48 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:49.240 of a lot, you know, I'd already been in the 49 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:52.840 conspiracy community as a listener and a researcher for like 50 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:58.000 five or six years. So man, it's it's crazy the 51 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:00.919 things that you share with people not even knowing like 52 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:06.439 what you were saying. Absolutely, and it seems how how 53 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:07.159 old are you are? 54 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:09.280 You only thirty two? 55 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:11.680 The hair and the beard looked like an old man, 56 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:13.719 but I'm younger at my age. 57 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:15.360 So we were there at the same time. 58 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.840 Dude, see you wait a minute, you were in middle 59 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:19.800 school and like a freshman in high school playing at 60 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:20.400 the dark room. 61 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:24.879 Yes, bro, my parents whose mom drove you? 62 00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:25.159 Dude? 63 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:30.840 Yes, so listen. Uh, we had a friend, our guitarist 64 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:34.719 named Charles, and he had a CenTra, but we never 65 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:37.400 took that. My mom would let him drive our exterra 66 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:41.960 ye hurt, Yeah, dude, and it was. It was pretty cool. 67 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:44.400 And then uh are we We got a bass player 68 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:49.879 who was a senior in high school, so we adults 69 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:53.039 of the group right time. So yeah, man, yeah, yeah, 70 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:54.960 he'd buy us cigarettes and everything. You know. 71 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:59.439 Tour things, man, absolutely, from Jackson to bat and Rouge 72 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:00.000 might as well. 73 00:03:59.919 --> 00:04:01.360 Be a road trip. Might as well just be a 74 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:03.520 whole tour, fucking right, dude. 75 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:07.120 Like my first like really my first like uh punk 76 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:12.800 rock concert was in New Orleans. It was rancid in 77 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:15.800 this skinhead band that played, and so it was very 78 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:18.279 it was a very wild thing to see. It's like 79 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:20.160 a twelve thirteen year old you know. 80 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:22.040 Wait a minute, when you say skinhead, do you mean 81 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:24.600 traditional or do you mean neo Nazi? Because when you 82 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:27.120 say a punk rock band and then you say skinhead, 83 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:30.680 that that's where it's like, Okay, the traditional skinhead punk 84 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:33.920 rock group was just the anti establishment and they wore 85 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:37.079 the suspenders and the socks on the outside that kind 86 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:42.279 of thing. They weren't racist, they just hated authority exactly. Yeah, 87 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:44.240 Swastik has kind of made their way in and the 88 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:46.120 whole fucking scene went downhill. 89 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:50.399 Yeah, dude, and they yeah, that's when it really got violent, dude. 90 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:50.839 Yeah. 91 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:52.399 But at the same time you had a lot of 92 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:55.959 violence with like straight edge kids as well. Oh, super 93 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:57.399 militant straight edge kids. 94 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:00.800 Yeah, but then they would also be roundhousing motherfucker's in 95 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:02.920 the mosh pit, Like, yeah, I'm super straight edge. 96 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:04.319 I don't drink, I don't smoke. 97 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:08.839 Fucking knock you sideways, Like, thanks, homie, good to know 98 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:10.120 you're clean and sober. 99 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:13.160 I guess, yeah, just thanks for showing me. Bro. 100 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:16.800 I'm not gonna lie though, I do miss mosh pits. 101 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:19.439 That was that was a weird uh part of the 102 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:21.800 coming of age of it all. But like, yeah, getting 103 00:05:21.800 --> 00:05:24.079 an elbow to the face, like you're okay, there's. 104 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:26.759 Something about it. Yeah, there's something about getting the shit 105 00:05:26.839 --> 00:05:28.680 beat out of you by a bunch of other dudes 106 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:32.240 and then like kind of bonding afterwards. Maybe you know, 107 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:35.600 you'd end up meeting people and and that's really how 108 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:37.920 you would meet your friends at first, like when you 109 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:41.000 were new to to the scene or whatever you want 110 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:41.360 to call it. 111 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:44.319 But yeah, you can't just she's showing up being no bitch, 112 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:45.680 Like I mean, you're gonna show up and just sit 113 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:46.120 on the wall. 114 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:48.120 You're gonna get up in the pit, you know what 115 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:48.439 I mean? 116 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:52.879 Like, no, dude, I feel like like our community, even 117 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:56.240 our listeners, are all the punk rock kids that didn't 118 00:05:57.399 --> 00:06:00.360 lick the boot of the government when it's started to 119 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:02.759 get real woke and left wing, you know what I mean. 120 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:06.360 Yeah, And that was back when Bush was in office. Man, 121 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:10.480 that was that was wartime anti establishment. Everybody was super 122 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.120 a fuck al kaya but also fuck the man. It 123 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:15.639 was like, all right, I kind of liked the double 124 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:18.000 middle finger on tendre Let's get after you know, bro. 125 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:21.120 But yeah, and I mean it went't like nobody was 126 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:23.680 really bad kids. Nobody was out there trying to hurt 127 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:25.639 each other. But it was like it was like the 128 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:28.439 ego check. It was that it was like a macho 129 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:30.600 even though yes, we were all wearing girl jeans. It 130 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:33.639 was the macho ness of the scene. You know, it 131 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:34.279 was stupid. 132 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:35.120 We're aware. 133 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:37.639 It was fine jeans for a little bit before I 134 00:06:37.680 --> 00:06:40.199 was like shaved my head and started wearing Camo shorts 135 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:42.439 and Air Force ones and stuff and hoodies. You know. 136 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:46.120 Yeah, Hollywood and Deck kind of changed the way we 137 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:46.600 could dress. 138 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:48.720 That changed the look of the scene. You know, I 139 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:49.439 was I was like a. 140 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:51.600 Punk kid at once too. I went through many phases. 141 00:06:51.639 --> 00:06:55.319 So it's like, you know, uh, it was it like 142 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:57.959 I said, man, it was. It was quite a way 143 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.839 to grow up, dude. I wouldn't have it any other way. 144 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:01.279 You know. 145 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:03.480 The MySpace days are a golden era. 146 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:08.079 Fucking bring back my Space, Tom where you at. 147 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:11.120 We did him dirty. He didn't ask anything of us, 148 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:13.439 but we just left him high and dry. Old Tom. 149 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:16.560 Y'all think it's flat or hollow or we. 150 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:18.560 Are very different in our beliefs on that I am 151 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:21.000 a globe tard. I do, in fact believe that we 152 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:24.720 live on a ball flying through not a vacuum of space. 153 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:28.319 But yeah, that the basic narrative of that of science. 154 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:29.839 I'm on that side of the fence. 155 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:34.279 However, right, I've gone back and forth as far as Uh, 156 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:35.759 there was a point in time where I was a 157 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:41.040 flat earther and then uh, and then I discovered hallucinogenics 158 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:45.639 and uh, and I thought, oh, it really probably doesn't 159 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:48.360 matter what the shape of the Earth is because we're. 160 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:49.759 Kind of locked in here either way. 161 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:53.680 And uh, but I will say that NASA definitely lies, 162 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:58.680 and they are. They are absolutely stealing all of our 163 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:02.959 taxpayer money and it's going to god knows what. And 164 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:06.519 but no, I've I've gone through a flat Earth stage. 165 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:09.600 I've gone through a double toroid stage, which is kind 166 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:11.839 of you know, maybe a little bit where I'm at 167 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:12.399 right now. 168 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:14.360 I want to say, are you off of that now? 169 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:15.879 Bro? Is that the snowman Earth? 170 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:19.680 No, that's the one where it's basically right, Well, it's 171 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:22.720 basically two toroids that are on top of each other 172 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:26.079 like two tauruses, and they're laid there. It's like a 173 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:28.759 bubble on top of each other. And whenever you put 174 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.279 on Earth, yeah, whenever you put them both together. 175 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:33.799 The audience was calling snowman Earth whenever, how is. 176 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:35.639 That Snowman thought I could see a donut? 177 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:38.919 Maybe, well, maybe it's something else that that we looked 178 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:45.000 at that was relating it to some other example. I 179 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:48.559 think that it may be both flat and hollow, like, 180 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:51.080 I don't know, I don't know, I kind of I 181 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:52.840 think the truth is in the middle of a lot 182 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:57.120 of things. So I've considered that I'm into, like obviously 183 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.799 the inner earth shit, right, but I'm also into the 184 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:05.720 land beyond the ice wall, and like that shit just 185 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:07.879 really intrigues me, you. 186 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:08.600 Know, no doubt. 187 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:13.000 Yeah, I think it's it's equally possible that that there 188 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:17.519 is a flat earth, that uh, there's a flat Earth, 189 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:22.000 and also possibly the double toroid kind of thing, because 190 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:24.159 as far as the double toroid goes, this is why 191 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:27.200 I find it so fascinating, is because where the where 192 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:29.600 the two toroids meet right in the center is what's 193 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:32.240 called the plane of inertia, which is what most people 194 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:35.200 would call just the flat earth, right, But I think 195 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:39.440 that what we live on is not as it's I 196 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:42.200 feel like it's more complex than we're led to believe. 197 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:44.960 I know that, like us spinning on a ball going 198 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:49.120 through all these you know, different portions of the universe, 199 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:52.600 and we're spinning at so many that's crazy. I get it, Like, 200 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:55.720 that's that's pretty complex. But I think that the double 201 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:59.000 toroid would actually be the most complex, and I think 202 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:02.919 it lends the most out of credence to uh interdimensional 203 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:03.960 play as well. 204 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:06.960 Yeah, and I definitely think if there are any entities 205 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:11.840 at their interdimensional then you see that in some of 206 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:15.480 these ancient stories with these fallen deities. That's why I 207 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:18.919 love kind of diving down into those those rabbit holes, 208 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:22.879 comparing and contrasting stories and you and you can trace 209 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:26.600 it through the etymology as well, so find those one 210 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:27.919 of the most fascinating things. 211 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:32.960 But uh, no, doubt, what is this about eloheem etymology? 212 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:34.279 What were you saying about this? 213 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:34.600 Now? 214 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:36.159 I I love. 215 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:39.480 Okay, since you brought that up, now I have to 216 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.600 ask what is your personal religious background as far as 217 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:44.279 the lo heem being brought up? 218 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:46.399 That's kind of a trigger word to some people, you. 219 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:50.799 Know, yeah, really well, not negative, but it sparks like okay, 220 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:53.320 either this guy, is this belief this belief of this belief. 221 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:55.600 You know what I'm saying, right, Well, I'm a follower. 222 00:10:55.759 --> 00:10:57.080 I'm a follower of christ Man. 223 00:10:57.440 --> 00:10:57.799 Okay. 224 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:03.440 Growing up, I so my grandfather, my my mom's dad, 225 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:07.799 was adopted by a Jewish family. And I've talked about 226 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:14.519 this a lot. My grandma converted. So I was raised 227 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:17.639 Jewish until I was thirteen, and I didn't have a bar. 228 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:19.879 I didn't have a bar mitzvah. 229 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:23.519 We're all practicing Jews, like went to temple and like 230 00:11:23.559 --> 00:11:23.960 any of that. 231 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:26.879 We we went to Sundays, you know. We we didn't 232 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:30.639 go to Shabbat every Friday at all. You know we 233 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:35.000 we weren't like, uh, it's very yeah, so like we 234 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:39.360 I don't really consider myself at all ever really to 235 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:41.639 be Jewish, even though I was. I guess you could 236 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:44.720 say culturally Jewish. I don't know, Bro, you are. 237 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:47.639 Like the least Jewish dude I've ever seen in my life. 238 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:50.480 You look German as oh no, I'm okay, so I'm 239 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:53.799 seventy eight percent Scottish and Irish and then the rest 240 00:11:53.879 --> 00:12:01.679 is German and French. Yeah, adopted as Nausi and Sephardic 241 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:02.879 and the other one. 242 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:08.360 So like y'all's cuisine growing up, your your mom cooks 243 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:10.279 Jewish food and ship well kind of. 244 00:12:10.399 --> 00:12:14.279 Not as much, dude, like it really you. 245 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:16.759 Wouldn't brisket and ship like no pork. 246 00:12:16.679 --> 00:12:19.480 Sometimes, no we ate pork. So like it was really 247 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:23.440 you are not you exactly. So I was just raised. 248 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:25.200 And to be honest with you, man, I think with 249 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:28.320 the bar mitz fide, I think it's like a it 250 00:12:28.399 --> 00:12:29.799 is a theory. I think it's like part of a 251 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:32.679 weird ritual. That's just me. 252 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:35.919 That's just I mean, yes to that. 253 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:41.679 Yeah, you feel me. But I as I got older, 254 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:49.039 I was into drug culture and whatnot, got got on opiates. 255 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:52.279 I'm I'm very open about it. Dude. My audience that 256 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:54.519 if they watched my show, they that they know who 257 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:54.840 I am. 258 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:56.600 Right, No, that's how you claim it? 259 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.279 Yeah man, yeah, and uh been I'm seven years lane 260 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:07.480 so yeah yeah man, yeah, almost took my life multiple times. 261 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:07.840 Maybe like that, bro. 262 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:11.440 Yeah, man, if it wasn't for my wife and my son. 263 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:14.159 Well I have a son and a daughter now, but 264 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:17.639 at the time, I just have my son. Uh man. 265 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:19.759 There's there's a reason that I'm still here, you know. 266 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:24.639 And so I went to church after I got in 267 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:27.320 a bad wreck, and. 268 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:33.000 Wh huh what led you to go to church after 269 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:36.279 a bad wreck, like to a to a Christian faith 270 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:38.559 as opposed to something. 271 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:40.960 Well, because I was just I didn't believe in anything, 272 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.440 you know, I was just looking for something and I 273 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:47.039 found there like twenty five people all surrounding me, praying 274 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:49.799 for me, and like I start crying, and you know, 275 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:54.639 I have a real deep spiritual experience. And at that 276 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.559 same time, I started getting more into like so I 277 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:00.320 was reading the Bible, but I was also getting into 278 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:04.639 conspiracies in the occult and so like it is, like 279 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:07.799 I said, I believe everything does happen for a reason, 280 00:14:07.879 --> 00:14:08.720 even us meeting. 281 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:10.200 Yeah. 282 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:13.840 Yeah, and you know when you get deeper in your faith, 283 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.759 you get deeper into the conspiratorial looking into things. 284 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:19.279 Bro that You're not the first person I've heard say. 285 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:24.399 That, And that's what led has led me closer to Christ. Yeah, 286 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:25.279 I've heard. 287 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:27.840 That by a lot of people, and not just christ 288 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:30.679 Although because of where we live, I feel like in America, 289 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:35.519 most people when they find faith would probably mathematically accidentally 290 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:39.320 find Christianity. And I get that, but I've noticed that 291 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:40.720 a lot of people and he kind of got to 292 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:43.919 because when you start looking more into the truth, it 293 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:47.559 gets depressing, it gets you get black pilled. So it's 294 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:50.840 like you got to have your star player in line 295 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.159 to not get overwhelmed with it. And a lot of people, 296 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:57.879 as they're diving deeper into the conspiratorial world, they're also 297 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:01.480 diving deeper into their faith to reassure them that, like, 298 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:03.919 you know, God's got a plan, and like, yeah, the 299 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:05.960 deck is really stacked against us, but like, yo, it's 300 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:06.919 according to the plan. 301 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:08.639 Take a breath, and you know what I mean. 302 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:15.480 Yeah, Yeah, dude, started diving into and and I kind 303 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:19.120 of found like an esoteric version of Christianity at the 304 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:20.000 same time. 305 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:22.039 Which Christian mysticism. 306 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.440 Dudude, it could mean a lot to you as far 307 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:27.120 as because and I've said this a lot recently, you 308 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:29.200 can go to church every Sunday, you can read the 309 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:33.559 Bible one hundred times. If you don't walk with that spirit, 310 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:36.879 the spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit. Uh. Some people 311 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:40.720 call it christ consciousness. Uh, you know there's and and 312 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:45.120 so yeah, it's it's it's an energy, right, We're all 313 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:50.399 made up of energy. Uh. I. I don't think you're 314 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:53.799 you're missing the mark if you're part of the religion, 315 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:55.919 but not of the spirit. Does that make sense? 316 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:59.080 I mean it which is essentially, which is sinning, is 317 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:00.039 to miss the mark is. 318 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:04.039 Yeah, but not necessarily. We're all sinners. 319 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:06.519 We all see it all falling right right. 320 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:08.080 It's it's the judgment. 321 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:11.000 It's the and not even judging other people, it's judging 322 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:12.639 yourself in a sense of like. 323 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:17.240 I am good, I am correct. 324 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:20.639 A first of all, that whole you yourself and you bullshit, 325 00:16:20.759 --> 00:16:23.000 go ahead and take that to the backseat. No one asked, 326 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:25.120 God didn't even ask, you know what I mean. That's 327 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:29.039 that's the kind of thing. It's like, if it's talk 328 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.679 is cheap, talk is cheap, and showing up on a 329 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:35.000 Sunday or showing up on whatever day is your day 330 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:37.840 of reckoning or whatever, that's the easy shit. If you're 331 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:41.200 not applying it, if you're not actually doing it and 332 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:43.720 being about it, then what's the point. 333 00:16:45.080 --> 00:16:47.720 Oh, I think you're absolutely right, dude, you're you're wasting 334 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:50.919 your own time. But the reason that the wreck that 335 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:54.759 I got in was spiritual was because when we flipped, 336 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:57.399 my wife said she opened her eyes and I didn't 337 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.240 have a seatbelt on, and she said something was keeping 338 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:03.759 me in my seat, like I should have fucking launched 339 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:09.759 out that window, dude, And so yeah, yeah, it was 340 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:12.279 uh and then I went to treatment after that and 341 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:13.400 uh all that. 342 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:17.400 So, so you should have gotten launched out of that car, 343 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.599 but you didn't. And that's whenever you said, what was 344 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:23.119 it like twenty twenty five people came around the car 345 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:24.559 as you got a record started praise. 346 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.920 I thought to myself after that happened, like, Okay, some 347 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:31.640 something protected me, right, let me go seek that out. 348 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:34.599 And so I went and and that was just this 349 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:38.400 church that herd that my my in laws had had 350 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:43.279 went to. And there there's a lot of people there, dude. Uh, 351 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:46.000 there's there's some not good people there. 352 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:49.799 You know what kind of Christian and Jesus, I can't 353 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:51.680 speak what type of Christian church was it? 354 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:52.359 If you don't mind me. 355 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:55.519 It was a Southern Baptist church, gotcha right? And so 356 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:57.720 we go to one down the street. Now that's just 357 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:00.000 non de nominate. 358 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:02.319 That's where I found my home. 359 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:04.960 For the most part, I know that it's like a 360 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:09.960 slippery slope before you're one of the Hillsong United looking uh, 361 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:13.920 you know, conglomerate church with eighteen campuses. 362 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:15.240 And I get I get it, I get it. 363 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:19.079 But as far as the true Word and applying it 364 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:22.759 to our lives today, that's the closest I have personally found. 365 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:26.880 So I get that, yeah, man, And I mean I 366 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:30.720 think I've lost listeners because I talk about I've talked 367 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:35.039 more about like some of this other stuff than the Bible, 368 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:39.240 you know, And maybe I should dive more into the 369 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:40.200 the Biblical text. 370 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:44.680 But do you consider yourself a Christian content creator or 371 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:46.480 a content creator who is Christian? 372 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:49.440 A content creator who who is Christian? Right? 373 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:50.799 Then talk your shit dog? 374 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:52.599 Yeah, yeah, I know, And that's that's what I do. 375 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:52.920 Man. 376 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:58.240 I question everything, even if it makes me uncomfortable. Sometimes 377 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:00.559 I kind of question it, and it usually leads me 378 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:05.839 back to Christ you know. But I always end up 379 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:10.680 That's one of the greatest things about doing this is 380 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:12.559 you always end up learning something new. 381 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:18.680 Oh, I would like to hear about your esotericness as 382 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:23.240 far as Christianity goes. As you're looking into the esoteric 383 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:26.759 version of Christianity, has that brought you closer, brought you 384 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:32.319 a little bit, maybe some some realizations that maybe have 385 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:35.319 helped you get a little deeper into Christianity per se? 386 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:40.920 Absolutely, man, I figured out that there's many ways to 387 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:47.440 read the Bible, right, Yeah, yeah, I think it's said 388 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:50.319 that there are seven ways. And you see that number, right, 389 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:54.880 and put that number a lot in there, like seven. 390 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:58.480 I haven't underlined all throughout what I just started from 391 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:03.759 Genesis and started reading. Now, I've been underlining everything that 392 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:10.119 I find to be esoteric or mystical in some way. 393 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.920 If that's like naming some some deity and talking and 394 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:18.440 or the numerology of some things. 395 00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:21.559 Yeah, what do you mean by if it sounds esoteric 396 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:24.119 to you? Like what would be if you were just 397 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:24.799 reading along? 398 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:28.119 If if I feel like I find hidden meaning in it? Right? 399 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:31.640 Okay, so you're not talking about mention of like a 400 00:20:31.720 --> 00:20:33.640 sorceress like that. 401 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:34.440 That's a that's. 402 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:38.119 Obviously that you know. But you know that's you have 403 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:42.079 the exoteric in the esoteric, right, what you can see 404 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:44.119 and then what you kind of have to look at 405 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:48.039 a little deeper to see. Yeah. And I've you know, 406 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:56.480 reading people like Manley, Palmer Hall, Rudolph Steiner a few 407 00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:59.119 other people. Man. Uh, you know, I don't really get 408 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:02.319 into Crowley and stuff. I've I've looked into Crowley a bunch, 409 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:05.279 you know. I I know who he was, like what 410 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:08.000 kind of chaos magician he was, and and the stuff 411 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:11.240 he did. But as far as reading some of those, 412 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:14.559 like I've read the Necronomicon and I ended up getting 413 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:17.039 rid of the book, you know, just because I read it, 414 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:23.359 because I I have There's a few entities that I 415 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:31.440 have dove into through since since I've started Semyaza being one, 416 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:36.119 mar Duke being another er Azazel, and then uh Inky 417 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:39.240 being the third also known as sami l or Lucifer. 418 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:45.200 And you can trace these deities throughout time their worship. Lately, 419 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:49.039 I've been diving into the moon God, the god of Islam. 420 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:54.279 I think Islam nan our Sin who is the father 421 00:21:54.359 --> 00:22:01.240 of Ishtar. Not a good dude, right, Okay, So yeah, man, 422 00:22:01.359 --> 00:22:05.680 stuff like that. And then when you read the Bible 423 00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:10.119 and you you see these deities being worshiped in in 424 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:14.000 the Biblical text just by other names. But usually you 425 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:16.640 can trace the deities, like I said, through the etymology 426 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:22.640 or through the archetypes. One one example of the etymology 427 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:28.920 would be in Leal also l Saturn, right. Uh. You 428 00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:31.559 take the E from the first of his name and 429 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:33.880 the L from the end of his name, and that's 430 00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:35.599 usually how a lot of these, whether you make them 431 00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:39.200 shorter or you at you know, and he lines up 432 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:44.599 directly such a in an archetypal way, in a symbolic way, 433 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:51.200 as that deity the Eagle representing him also his children 434 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:56.759 being Zeus and Helios, the son God. And like, you know, 435 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:00.640 if the Sumerian stories of the n and Icky aren't 436 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.799 all that they're put out there to be, like how 437 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:08.480 Sitch and Rhodem or whatever, uh Lawrence Gardner a few 438 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:13.440 other people, you know, then they're inter dimensional, Like these 439 00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:16.759 these entities exist, and they're the ones who have been 440 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:22.680 manipulating from all sides of the corner. Right now, some 441 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:25.240 people go in to say that the story of Christ 442 00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:28.039 is just symbolic in the story of one of these 443 00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:34.039 rebirth rituals, right these ancient mystery schools. I don't find that. 444 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.000 I find there to be some meaning in that, and 445 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:42.519 that Christ probably knew about the esoteric, right well, I 446 00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:49.079 mean in in in Egypt, correct. 447 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:50.920 Not according to the biblical history. Now, but I'm with. 448 00:23:51.000 --> 00:23:58.160 You, Well, what I'm saying is like, uh, I don't know, 449 00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:03.119 I just know my lid, my lid experience, so you know, 450 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:06.759 it's it's you can look at stories like that in 451 00:24:06.839 --> 00:24:09.960 many ways, sure, yeah. 452 00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:11.079 And I mean the whole thing about like. 453 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:15.799 His story of for instance, his death resurrection in three 454 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:19.960 days from a virgin birth. There are stories like that 455 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:21.240 that predate Christ. 456 00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:21.759 Right. 457 00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:26.319 There's all types of stories throughout the histories of pantheons, 458 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:29.279 of different gods from different ports portions of the world 459 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:33.000 that had this same story, which a lot of people 460 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:36.759 will say disproves Jesus because look at how many other 461 00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:39.920 stories they are just like it. If anything, that tells 462 00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:43.119 me that the prophecy of him coming was told in 463 00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:44.359 many different languages. 464 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:47.240 That's from many different as the Christ, right. 465 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:50.279 Right, he is Jesus or yes, you whatever you're gonna 466 00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:54.680 call him the Christ, he is the christed one. There 467 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:59.359 may have been other initiates right of some kind of 468 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:04.480 school or religion before him that attempted that right, that 469 00:25:04.599 --> 00:25:08.200 attempted complete enlightenment, whatever you would want to call it. 470 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:13.079 But yeah, it they just weren't that guy. Right. 471 00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:17.680 Well, people figure they claimed to be the Messiah or 472 00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:20.559 something akin to that, per different language, per different culture. 473 00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:22.279 There's been these in the past, for sure. 474 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:25.319 But as far as you know Christ being a title, 475 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:28.160 I know that some people don't like hearing that, But 476 00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:32.079 it depends on really where you're like what you're wanting 477 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:34.480 to believe in though, Like so, if you look at 478 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:38.680 the etymology of Christ, it does come from Christos, which 479 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:43.160 does mean the anointed One, and that's that's from Greek, And. 480 00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:45.359 So is that where they got it? 481 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:46.160 Did they get it? 482 00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:49.200 Was it the the Greek that called him the Christ 483 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:51.279 the anointed One because he wasn't born. 484 00:25:51.519 --> 00:25:54.079 That wasn't his name when he was born, right, like. 485 00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:56.480 He was, his name was Yahia and he was known 486 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:57.599 as the carpenter's kid. 487 00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.400 It was a Manuel right when he born. 488 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:03.319 I mean they said that he would be called that, 489 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:05.519 but that's a word for savior. So I mean that's 490 00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:07.799 like you basically saying that he would be the savior 491 00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:11.240 of the world, which yes, but he was called Yeshuah. 492 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:12.079 Yeah, And I. 493 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:14.240 Mean we know that they didn't even have a jay 494 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:17.079 in the alphabet for the Hebrew language. So like the 495 00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:23.079 whole thing about John and Joseph and right, yea soft 496 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:25.039 j they would go for. They would go for their 497 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:30.519 morning y'all. You know, yeah, bro, but uh yeah, so yeah, 498 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:34.000 to the Anointed one thing. But all these other stories 499 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:36.920 about these other savior figures can't be verified. 500 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:40.079 We know for sure that Yashua of Nazareth, his story 501 00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.119 can be verified by eyewitnesses. 502 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:44.759 By people will argue about the Shroud of Tour until 503 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:45.599 the cows come home. 504 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:47.400 We've done multiple episodes on it. 505 00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:50.119 I honestly feel convinced, beyond a shadow of a doubt 506 00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:54.160 that it's authentic. But people will throw shade at a 507 00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:57.519 couple of the uh the red flags, which I get. 508 00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:00.839 But to me it seems like it's genuine article. 509 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:05.039 But as far as Jesus himself living, dying in the 510 00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:07.640 time and place that he said Pontous Pilot as signing 511 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:10.960 him to death, the whole thing that's verified by history, 512 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:15.039 and like even the staunchest of Eightheist scholars at least 513 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:19.680 agreed that that guy, the dude in question existed. Somehow 514 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:24.200 people want to like fight that today and then it's about, well, yeah, 515 00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:26.880 he lived, but he wasn't what he said he was, and. 516 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.119 It you know, I'll saw what happened. Also, what happened 517 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:32.519 with Billy Carson, right, dude, we were. 518 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:33.440 Just talking about this. 519 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.480 He's tried, he tried to step up to the plate against. 520 00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:40.359 An actual real We just tell them like, I fucked up. Bro. 521 00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.599 You know he's got police. He's got charges on him 522 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:43.519 now because of what happened. 523 00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:45.079 The next morning, he's suing. 524 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:48.039 He showed up at the producer's house at two thirty 525 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:50.400 in the morning, banging on his door to Manny, he 526 00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:52.839 doesn't release the episode. Bro, His wife and kids were 527 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.240 in there, so he called the cops and he's like, 528 00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:59.920 oh no, we're full sending this shit. And it's like, okay, 529 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.599 you could have taken the l gracefully, Billy. Everybody with 530 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.519 a brainstem has known it for a while. But like, Bro, 531 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:09.079 there's ring camera footage. 532 00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:09.759 Have you seen it? 533 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:10.200 No? 534 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.759 Oh, I'm gonna try to find it. Oh no, fuck 535 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:16.200 with me. Oh, Jonathan, you're already googling it, aren't you. Yes? 536 00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:17.279 I am, Bro. 537 00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:18.720 Oh, I'm old dude. 538 00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:21.759 That ring camera footage was. I mean, there's no denying it. 539 00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:25.039 Billy Carson has a very recognizable face and voice, so 540 00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.759 I mean it, and that's not gonna go. 541 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:28.000 Well. 542 00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:31.039 He already had charges for stalking during his COVID from 543 00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:33.359 his ex wife, and shit, I thought that those charges 544 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.039 were cleared and it was all good. He's been making money, 545 00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:39.240 he's been doing his content thing. Yeah, he's got a 546 00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:40.680 model Asian. 547 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:42.599 Woman on his arm. Looks like the man is doing 548 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:43.759 well for himself, you know. 549 00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:47.400 But fuck well, I had watched him when he was 550 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:50.200 on Gaya a little bit like as an introduction into 551 00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:54.559 the Ananaki and stuff him and Matt Matt Lacroix, I 552 00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:58.519 think that's his last name. But Billy, you know, he 553 00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:03.160 thinks that they are here to save us, you know, 554 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.480 or like they are our gods right like, And that's 555 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:12.559 just not We come from one creator, I agree? Yeah? 556 00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.960 Who who the fallen even referred to as the creator 557 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.000 of all? Right? Right? 558 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:20.559 Which fallen? Which fallen? Say that? 559 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:25.000 Okay, well you have two classes of angels that fell. 560 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:28.559 You have the watcher angels that fell, which is like 561 00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:34.720 uh Inky and Lele uh any females that fell along 562 00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:40.799 with them? Uh And then you have the Gigi or 563 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:55.079 I guess uh Samyaza sham or Shamash the sun god 564 00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.519 who that was the second fall? That was the fall 565 00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:04.240 of like? That was that was the fall of them 566 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.599 mating with the earth women? Right, the first fall was 567 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:09.920 the fall of Inky, the. 568 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:13.319 Fall from Grace, the fall from heaven, fall from the garden. 569 00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:18.720 Well, well they had all already like fallen but ikey 570 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.759 is that serpent archetype in the garden? Right? 571 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:22.319 Got you? 572 00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:28.119 And I don't know, man, It's it's when when you 573 00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:32.519 look at Enoch and you look at the Sumerian stories, 574 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:36.279 they they line up, you know. 575 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:42.200 So basically, the fallen ones, according to the scripture within 576 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.559 the Bible. According to the scripture within the Bible, the 577 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:50.680 fallen ones say that the God of Abraham is the 578 00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:57.960 creator of everything. Yeah, okay, I just want to I 579 00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.000 just want to clear that up because you know, first off, 580 00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.880 I'm not a Christian. Although I respect everybody's beliefs, I'm 581 00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.839 never gonna shit on anybody for you know, having certain 582 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:08.559 beliefs because my beliefs are. 583 00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:11.240 Just as wacky. That's what I always like to say, 584 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:12.720 you know, it's kind of like a fun job. 585 00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:19.759 At that point, the the fallen were around before Abraham, 586 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.279 so you see him kind of later on in the 587 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:23.519 Ananaki story. 588 00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:28.359 But I don't know if they ever really state that, 589 00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:33.079 but that's that's what it is, is seen as some 590 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:37.519 people interpret the God of Abraham to be in leal Right, 591 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:45.440 that's a theory out there, not what I believe. But 592 00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.079 like I said, there's there's you have people pushing that 593 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.400 Christ wasn't real or this or that, so you got 594 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:54.519 to take some of these stories with a grain of salt, right, 595 00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.960 But I do like how you're like I was say, 596 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:03.079 and there's many ways to look at it, many interpretations, 597 00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:04.000 many different. 598 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:07.799 Well, of course, and that's why you're gonna have what 599 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:12.640 two thousand different denominations of Christianity because there is so 600 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.759 many different ways of looking at it. And there's there's 601 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.839 actually a large portion of Christians out there that they 602 00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:23.839 they don't subscribe to any of the esoteric stuff as 603 00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:27.119 a matter of fact, like the esoteric is Satanic and 604 00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:30.359 you should only look at it for the exoteric values. 605 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.160 And that's in Jacob. Not to call you out here, 606 00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:37.759 but you're kind of anti esoteric. And so whenever I 607 00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.039 start getting into any of the any kind of the 608 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.039 esoteric meaning behind it, and could it have meant this 609 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.319 because he did speak in parables, how do we know 610 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.440 exactly what he meant whenever he was speaking in parables? 611 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:47.680 Right? 612 00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:53.240 And I think that it's it's it's smart to be 613 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:56.440 able to look at it multiple ways, because if you 614 00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:59.960 if you're somebody who just walks through life not point 615 00:33:00.200 --> 00:33:03.039 any fingers at any person directly here. But if you're 616 00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.880 somebody who just walks through walks through life and says, 617 00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:09.960 I understand everything as it is already, as my brain 618 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.839 is the smartest, and I win, and I think that 619 00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.480 you're not learning anything. I think that you have to 620 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:19.480 be open to multiple different perspectives here. And that's why 621 00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:21.359 we talk about a lot of these things on the show, 622 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:24.720 and it not. Everything is so cut and dry. There's 623 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.119 so much murky water out there, and I don't know 624 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:28.799 that's why. 625 00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:31.920 You could be wrong about everything, dude. You know, like 626 00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:35.000 this is my interpretation of things. 627 00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.680 So I mean, for the record, Jonathan, we. 628 00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:40.799 Are all kind of crazy, right we are. 629 00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:41.759 We are, indeed. 630 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:45.039 But like my thing has always been not necessarily I'm 631 00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.599 anti esoteric. I acknowledge it to be real, I acknowledge 632 00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:50.480 most of it to be based in truth and all 633 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.640 these things. But the book that I derived my morals 634 00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.880 from says basically, don't fuck with it, like it's very 635 00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.799 clear of like necromancy, mad Jack, if it's done in secret, 636 00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:03.640 don't even don't even play with it. 637 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.000 But that's just where I am at. 638 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:06.640 Well. 639 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:09.760 Esoteric doesn't mean magic, It just means like a deeper, 640 00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:11.960 more spiritual understanding. 641 00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:16.960 Noah, but old. 642 00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:19.760 Jonathan, I've told you to even look into Christian mysticism 643 00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.559 because I thought you would actually get something from it. 644 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:25.480 Oh, I know, well does mean like a deeper meaning. 645 00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:29.159 I mean, hey, look, as long as this version of 646 00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:32.480 magic is not gonna spite me and smite me by 647 00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:34.519 by the Almighty, It's. 648 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.679 Funny how all that all works, like. 649 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.639 Christian mysticism or Christian magic if you will. 650 00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:45.559 Is okay. But all other magic, so I've cross all 651 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:49.559 of their touch magic, blood magic, chaos magic. 652 00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:51.000 Yeah, don't don't touch. 653 00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:53.960 It, right, even though all that is incorporated into the Bible. 654 00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:58.760 You had, dude, that look okay. So here's another form 655 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:07.239 of etymology. Cannibal comes from the Canaanite worship of ball, right, 656 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:12.079 cannaball So yeah, dude, there you go right there. That 657 00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:14.199 like and like what I was talking about in these 658 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:18.800 ancient mystery schools with these rebirth these rebirth rituals where 659 00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:21.800 they would go underground into a cave or something and 660 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.559 do some sort of ritual and then come back out 661 00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.800 and the rebirth and it's on a certain day, and uh, 662 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.400 you know, there's many different examples of that we can 663 00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:35.119 get into sometime. Dude. I'd love to do some more 664 00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:40.599 shit with y'all man the same, Yeah, I like hanging 665 00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:41.360 out with you guys. Y'all. 666 00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:44.840 A rebirth rituals due, there's and not even just a 667 00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:48.400 cult like the Freemasons do a rebirth ritual upon initiation 668 00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:49.440 and fine, fine. 669 00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:51.199 Yeah, and the Coffin yeah yeah, and. 670 00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.159 That deserves its talking point, don't get me wrong, But like, 671 00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:55.280 if we're gonna talk real shit, if we're going to 672 00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:57.880 talk like ancient shit, all right, y'all ever seen Game 673 00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:01.039 of Thrones, right, remember when the gradoy had to be 674 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.239 drowned and then if he woke up, he was supposed 675 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.800 to be the king because what's dead can't be killed. 676 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:12.199 You remember this, right, what's dead may never die, right right? 677 00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:14.599 That was his house motto, this whole thing. Now, listen, 678 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:17.800 understand that your boy who wrote Game of Thrones based 679 00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:20.880 every single tribe, clan, and house off of a real 680 00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.400 historical place and figure. In fact, and all of these things, 681 00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:28.719 there are ancient religions and ancient tribes of people who 682 00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.320 like would drown their king or would bury their king 683 00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:35.719 or their queen or their high priestess or whatever. And 684 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.400 if this person who claims to have been this grand 685 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:42.480 person is divinely chosen and bum bap up, they can't die. 686 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.119 So if we bury them for two days, they should 687 00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.599 come down from the mountain as the highest of enlightenedments 688 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:51.039 of beings correct, and that they there's whole precedence for this. 689 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:51.199 Bro. 690 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:58.760 Oh yeah, uh my buddy Isaac from Organite Yeah, dudeite 691 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.159 yeah yeah, manly. 692 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.280 Big shout out to him for making me this on 693 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:05.039 great here, bro, check this thing out. 694 00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:09.559 Brother, he uh he has these pyramids right here. If 695 00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:13.199 you go to organite dot com, guys, organ dash eight, 696 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.119 I'm throw a little plug in here, y'all. Fuck it. 697 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:18.039 You put in promo code GP get ten percent off. 698 00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.800 So uh yeah, shout out Isaac. 699 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:24.039 And plus Isaac's just like the best kind of people, 700 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:26.559 like you know what I mean, he deserves all the 701 00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:27.239 shouts outs. 702 00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:29.599 Oh dude, and he's young too, like he's like he's 703 00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:31.599 only like twenty one, twenty two. I'm like, damn, I 704 00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:33.840 wish my head was pulled out of my ass that 705 00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:38.079 early of an age, you know, like that must be 706 00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:39.719 nice to get started that early. 707 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:42.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, fucking right, man, Yeah, I know 708 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.000 that's crazy. You brought that up though, brother, Yeah, yeah, 709 00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.760 that would be like an early form of a rebirth ritual. 710 00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.440 And you see it in the Ossyrian mystery schools and 711 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:56.119 the Mithras mystery schools, like it's it's it's everywhere, dude. 712 00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:58.400 Oh you see it in the mine in the Aztec 713 00:37:58.440 --> 00:37:58.880 as well. 714 00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:03.599 Yeah, yeah, man, you see a lot. Dude's that's full 715 00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.920 of occultism with I mean tons of blood, dudfis right, 716 00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.440 tons of child animal and human sacrifice. It's it's what 717 00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:10.920 was one? 718 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:11.880 I just looked into it. 719 00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:16.000 They would tie thorns onto a braid of rope, and 720 00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:18.280 they would because most of they had their tongues pierced, 721 00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:21.400 they would pass it up and down through their tongue 722 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.559 as their own personal blood letting ritual during a certain 723 00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.559 sacrifice to a certain deity. I forget which one it was. 724 00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:31.239 We talked about it once upon a time. Their worst 725 00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:35.559 was their rain dance ritual, because usually it was like 726 00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.519 a high priest child or like one of his direct 727 00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:42.599 family members, like baby, and they would slowly torture this 728 00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.440 child to death through cutting and through burning and all this. 729 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:48.199 The more the child screamed, the more pleased the rain 730 00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:50.400 god was Oh bro, it was fucking sick. 731 00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:52.360 A dreamochrome right there, dude, I mean. 732 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.960 Very much, very much like Mola. Oh no, no, no, 733 00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.400 you want to talk ancient adrenochrome. We did an episode 734 00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.480 on that. So bro, listen. The earliest of hot chocolate 735 00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:04.440 that we have, as far as a red hot chocolate. 736 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:05.199 Have you heard of this? 737 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:05.920 No? 738 00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:08.559 Okay, all right, brace yourself for this. 739 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.360 When you brought it up, I did have no idea 740 00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:15.679 how you are, So listen, all right. There was one god, 741 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:18.920 all right, itx cocolacle or what other fuck. I can't 742 00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:21.000 pronounce it. There's not enough vowels and too many syllables 743 00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:26.159 for me. But anyway, for their one god worshiping thing 744 00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.480 for him, they're big sacrifice. They would have a prisoner 745 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.360 that they would have dressed as the God. 746 00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.320 He would be paraded through the streets. 747 00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.159 By day and dance and music, and he'd be given 748 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:38.159 the gifts and all of that. 749 00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:40.000 But at night he would be locked in. 750 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:43.679 A cage because he knew that this party was going 751 00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:45.079 to be coming to an end. And I want to 752 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:47.159 say it was a forty days if I'm not mistaken. 753 00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:50.960 Weird how that number kind of magically played in. But anyway, 754 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:54.480 on this final day, he was going to be sacrificed 755 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:56.679 at the High Temple, and he was his body was 756 00:39:56.719 --> 00:39:59.360 going to be like consumed or this or this and 757 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.159 like release this God who is contained within. 758 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:02.880 This fleshly suit. 759 00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:07.639 Okay, cool, But if for whatever reason he got he 760 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.920 just kind of lost his nerve and what wasn't really 761 00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:12.400 feeling the whole party vibe, like okay, I'm about to 762 00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:13.559 die tomorrow, Like I'm not. 763 00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:17.679 Really feeling this anymore. They made him a drink. Okay. 764 00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:20.400 What they would do is take cocw which they would 765 00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:22.159 grind up into a pace and they would make into 766 00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:24.159 like early hot chocolate and they would throw like chili 767 00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:26.920 powder in there or whatever. Right, mano Zuma allegedly drank 768 00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:29.400 fifty goblets of this a day, which we know is bullshit, 769 00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.480 but it's legend. But they would make this and keep 770 00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.639 in my cocow is really really high in caffeine, okay, 771 00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:38.719 really really euphoric as a matter of fact, and it's 772 00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:41.360 pure form. You can buy cocw dust and snort it 773 00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:42.360 like coke right now. 774 00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:43.519 It's a thing you can buy. 775 00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:45.840 It doesn't give you a full on coke effect, but 776 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:49.159 it gives you a decent buzz for a minute. But anyway, so, 777 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.559 and not to mention, they exchange cocoa beans as currency. 778 00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:54.079 There's a whole thing, but this was like one of 779 00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:57.320 their most precious commodities. They would make a drink out 780 00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:59.920 of that. But then they would wash the obsidian dagger 781 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:03.079 that they would use for sacrifices that were covered in blood. 782 00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:06.559 They would wash those blades off and use that water 783 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.840 mixed with cacao and give him this as a drink, 784 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:12.920 and then he would like instantly go back to dancing 785 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.639 and singing and being crazy. They called the drink it's 786 00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:19.199 cacalakal or whatever it is, and it was called the 787 00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:23.800 washing of the obsidian blades. That is a real historically 788 00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:26.880 documented drink that they would make for their sacrifice to 789 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.440 redrug him up and get him in the spirit. Tell 790 00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:33.559 me that that is not the earliest form of ancient 791 00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:36.679 dirty adrinachrome that we have on record. 792 00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:40.559 Bro, Yeah, dude, I'd have to say so. I don't 793 00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:44.039 know if there's any uh earlier stories of it. 794 00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:45.280 Dude, You think about that. 795 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:50.039 The sacrificial dagger, whoever's blood is on that was highly adrenalized, 796 00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:53.679 like they were being sacrificed in front of this massive 797 00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.599 amount of people on top of this giant pyramid temple thing. 798 00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.239 Yo. They were fucking scared shitless. 799 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.800 So like all of that blood on that dagger was 800 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:04.679 super adrenalized, and they just mixed that with some hot 801 00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:06.599 chocolate and gave it to him and he fucking partied 802 00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:09.440 deep like dude, I. 803 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:13.039 Mean, dude, that's why that's why blood magic is so popular, 804 00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:16.719 as as well as sex magic, right, yeah. 805 00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:17.960 Which we have crowdy thing for that too. 806 00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:22.360 Yeah, dude, I mean look at uh the what's that. 807 00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:26.239 Saturnalia was way before crowd Uh. 808 00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:30.800 Saturnalia wasn't based around sex magic, though Crowley made the 809 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:32.639 Lima based around it. 810 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:39.599 Yeah that oh man, Yeah, that whole uh religion. It's 811 00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:40.880 just fucked man. 812 00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:43.000 Saturnalia had the orgies. 813 00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:48.159 That, yeah, I feel like it's kind of the main 814 00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:51.559 point to saturn It. 815 00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:52.719 Was the worship of Saturn. 816 00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:53.960 It wasn't no, no, no. 817 00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:58.599 Saturnalia was basically uh just a massive Yeah, there were orgies, 818 00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:00.360 but mostly it was like the rich pe we'll get 819 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:02.840 treated like slaves, the slaves get treated like rich people. 820 00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:05.559 It was like just a giant week long festival like 821 00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.440 sex was there, but it wasn't like it wasn't. 822 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.440 A sex fest. Yeah, I mean it was. It was 823 00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:14.480 a worship of the god Saturn fest. Dude. 824 00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:18.079 I mean sex was very, very highly indicative of all 825 00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:21.440 of Roman culture. I mean there's dicks on every single 826 00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:25.639 mile marker statue on in Rome, like the god Hermes 827 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:28.159 and then his dick for no reason, just all over 828 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:29.280 and it was a whole thing. 829 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:33.639 We have all the monuments, dude, they're all phallic symbols. 830 00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:36.719 And that what I was talking about with the Ossyrian, 831 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:43.880 with the Ossyrian schools Osiris, who in the Sumerian story 832 00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:48.559 is a son of Marduke. He his penis is cast 833 00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:52.719 into the nile, right, and so you have that representation 834 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:56.599 in the Washington monument. We have one right off the interstate, 835 00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:58.360 right here, and right here in Mississippi. 836 00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.519 Dude, Dude, every massan tombstone. 837 00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:06.000 Is a phallus an obelisk, yes, and obelisk is a phallus. Yes. Yes. 838 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:09.559 I feel like there's got to be way more to 839 00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:10.400 it than that, dude. 840 00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:13.599 Well yeah, well yeah. 841 00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:18.480 To the to the uh fhallus, Well there. 842 00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:23.119 That is well that you can add on to it 843 00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:25.639 besides it being a phallic symbol. 844 00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:27.440 I mean, I'm not sure. 845 00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:32.079 I just feel like making a tall statue just because 846 00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:36.039 it represents your dick, Like, there's no way that's the 847 00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:39.280 only reason that they fucking put a statue up in 848 00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:40.440 the middle of their town. 849 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:45.960 Like it's that seems very see and this is I 850 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:47.280 don't want to have to take it here, but. 851 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.000 Let's go there, bro, Because we were talking about the 852 00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.920 ancient egypt obelisks, like next to the pyramids. 853 00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.239 They built those for who knows the reason, you know. 854 00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.440 I mean we're talking about like the ones we see 855 00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.760 built on us soil kind of thing, right. 856 00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:03.280 Yes, yeah, right, Well I don't know. I just I 857 00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:05.679 look at that and I think that we're really any 858 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.760 of the obelists all throughout time, not. 859 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.480 Even just the ones that are here in America. Yeah, 860 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:10.559 there's a lot of them here and. 861 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:12.559 A lot of them are in the ancient ones too. 862 00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:13.760 All of them. 863 00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.000 Yeah, Okay, I don't think that they had anything to 864 00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.519 do with their dicks. I think that that is something 865 00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.480 And not to throw any not to throw any hate, 866 00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:24.800 but there are a lot of Christians out there that 867 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:30.000 look at the tiniest details of any other religion and 868 00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:33.760 automatically assume that it is some kind of sex worship 869 00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.119 or some kind of Satan warship. And it's not always 870 00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.000 that simple. It's really not all that easy. Whenever you 871 00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:43.119 look at you know, Anki and end Loewell there, they're 872 00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.559 just the fallen ones there. You look at the Buddha, well, 873 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:48.519 he was just a fat slob who whatever. 874 00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:51.199 Like it's always, I feel. 875 00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.920 Like anytime, not anytime. There are a lot of Christians 876 00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:55.559 that don't look at it like that. But I feel 877 00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.800 like the overarching view that we've seen from a lot 878 00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.960 of Christians that have come on show is that you 879 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:05.280 look at other religions and automatically you're thinking about, how 880 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.079 is this the work of Satan? And I don't think 881 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.760 that that is. I don't think that that's correct, because 882 00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:13.280 there are a lot of there are a lot of 883 00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:17.280 really interesting religions out there. You look into a lot 884 00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:19.679 of the esoteric meanings behind a lot of that kind 885 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.920 of stuff, and it has nothing to do with Satan. Dude, 886 00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:26.559 I've been I've been practicing witchcraft and magic and and 887 00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:30.320 like working on certain spells and all that kind of shit. 888 00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:34.119 Never once have I called the name Satan. 889 00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:38.119 Satan come to me like your boy, like your boy, 890 00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:41.119 the fucking Pope. Oh no, I'm talking about I'm talking 891 00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:43.159 about the Pope. He's over there singing about it. 892 00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:44.000 Yeah. 893 00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:48.360 You know, Satan just means adversary, just like ball, which 894 00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:53.480 stems from the word bell, means lord. And so I 895 00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:56.079 don't think. I don't really believe there's actual an actual 896 00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:59.639 deity named Satan. To be honest with you, I think 897 00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:05.199 there's many Satans. You could say many devils. But uh, 898 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:08.960 and no, dude, you're you're absolutely right. Uh. Who knows? 899 00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:12.880 They could be conductors of of of energy, right, I've 900 00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:13.559 heard that, like. 901 00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:15.679 The radio antennas or something like that. 902 00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:19.119 It could be a water tower, you know. 903 00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:22.920 I'll say this though, And as far and I can't 904 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:26.800 speak on behalf of everything, of all pagan things, instantly Satan, 905 00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:27.639 instantly Sex. 906 00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.800 I'm not saying no, no, no, dude, I I yeah, no. 907 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:34.400 But as far as Egypt have when you look at 908 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.480 the gods they worshiped and the story arcs of it. 909 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:39.360 We've talked about Toat's come. 910 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:42.960 Crown a few times, right, Sex, and all of these 911 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:47.360 things were like super interwoven into the religion and it's. 912 00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:47.559 Not like. 913 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.079 Believe Christianity. 914 00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:56.320 Our gods weren't incestuous in all of these things. Now, 915 00:47:56.360 --> 00:48:00.239 stories from the Bible of humans doing human shit, okay, 916 00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:03.559 they're humans, the gods and the pantheon doing wild things. 917 00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:08.159 But again, it's not just Egypt. Every pantheon has crazy stories. 918 00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:08.920 Some of them have. 919 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:11.039 Morals to those, some of them are just stories of 920 00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:14.159 this is why this is because fucking it is like, 921 00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.440 I don't know, there's all kinds of it in between. 922 00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:17.440 But here's the thing. 923 00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:21.960 The thing is is that, you know, Jacob, we started 924 00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.239 talking about the esoteric kind of stuff earlier. You kind 925 00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:27.000 of like to separate yourself from that because you think 926 00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:28.079 that that is not what the. 927 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:28.800 Bible is all about. 928 00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:32.360 And you're right to have that belief, but you can't 929 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.880 just instantly say that all the other religions, including like 930 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:40.320 ancient Egypt, ancient like Mesopotamia, that kind of that kind 931 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:44.039 of philosophy wasn't always exoteric. As a matter of fact, 932 00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.000 I would venture to say that it was ninety nine 933 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:50.480 percent esoteric, meaning that it didn't matter if these people 934 00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:54.079 actually walk the earth or whatever. It's the stories and 935 00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:58.159 what you garnered from those stories, and so I mean, yes, 936 00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:02.079 did people literally leave in a sun god rack? Probably 937 00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.239 there were some people, just like there were most problems. 938 00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:08.519 They sacrificed their kids over it, like it wasn't a 939 00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:09.519 metaphor to them. 940 00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:13.360 They also talk about a time where the gods did 941 00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:17.519 walk the earth or the star people, those who from 942 00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:20.800 heaven fell or came to earth, whatever you want to 943 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:25.960 call them. But no, dude, I actually agree with you, brother. 944 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.760 I think there is a lot more of a meaning 945 00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:31.559 to a lot of things, and you find a lot 946 00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:39.320 of aspects of Buddhism Zorastraism. I probably butchered that name 947 00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:44.800 in Christianity, you know, so. 948 00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:49.000 Some yes, some know, we did an episode about zoroastrian 949 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:52.800 Is is a fascinating religion. No shade thrown in it whatsoever, 950 00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:56.239 or or at the Egyptian religion for the record, no 951 00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:57.320 shade thrown at it. 952 00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:59.119 I'm saying that, like, look, if somebody. 953 00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.119 It's my favorite thing to look at into, dude, one 954 00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:02.239 of my things. 955 00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:04.639 They believe that these gods did walk the earth, the 956 00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:07.960 ancient Sumerians, the Nordics, they believe that Odin at one 957 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.280 point walked the earth. They didn't think of this as 958 00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:13.199 just a metaphor of a story passed down. 959 00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:14.880 They believe this to be truth. 960 00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:19.440 But you you also have to look at it as 961 00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:23.119 they could be archetypes or roles being played. 962 00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:26.000 They got turned into that over time. Sure, that's got 963 00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:27.159 the legend of it. 964 00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:32.039 Yeah right right, Also our human characteristics, all our proclivities, 965 00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:35.320 we seem to when you read these stories, they had 966 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:39.280 it first. They were having sex with anything they pour, 967 00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:47.239 so it says pouring their semen into something, and yeah, yeah, man, No, 968 00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:51.320 I do think that there's many ways to interpret these stories. 969 00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:53.039 Right, and I mean all gods did that. 970 00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:56.320 Look, most of the Greek pantheon, most of the Greek 971 00:50:56.360 --> 00:51:00.000 religion ninety five percent of it, and I'm being general, 972 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:02.079 is is Zeus not being able to keep it in 973 00:51:02.119 --> 00:51:02.760 his pants. 974 00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:04.079 That's the truth of it. 975 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.360 Ninety five percent of the Roman religion is Jupiter not 976 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:10.119 being able to keep it in his pants, because literally 977 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.320 Greek just with different names. That's not like me saying, well, 978 00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:16.199 the whole thing is sex. No, that's their stories. I 979 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:17.360 didn't say that they did. 980 00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:19.119 Isn't it funny though? 981 00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:23.840 How most of where, like most of the biblical Christian 982 00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:28.880 stories stem from like Greek speaking people and people that 983 00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:31.639 were from Rome, right, Like, so that's why you would 984 00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:33.400 have a lot of crossover, That's why you'd have a 985 00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.039 lot of paganistic kind of stuff in there, because they 986 00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:37.480 were trying to be very inclusive. 987 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:41.000 And that's why and and no shade Throne. I think that. 988 00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:42.760 Look, if you want to be inclusive, you want to 989 00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:44.639 try and rap as many people into your religion as 990 00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:47.320 you possibly can, then you're gonna say, yeah, Jesus was 991 00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:49.079 born on December twenty fifth. 992 00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:50.440 Yeah, he rose three days later. 993 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:53.039 Would just so happened to like, would just so happen 994 00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:55.880 to intertwined with ishtar and shit lately? 995 00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:59.760 Oh No, he wasn't born in December twenty Fifth's that's 996 00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:02.960 very It's there's an argument to say it was sometime 997 00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:05.039 in the spring to summer, and then we're hearing more 998 00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:07.400 sources saying it was more like September time frame. 999 00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:10.840 Honestly, it could have been either or depends on which 1000 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:13.719 thing was being harvested. There there's on which socier reading, 1001 00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:14.280 yes you. 1002 00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:18.000 Are, they have been September eleventh. Yeah, there's also theories 1003 00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:21.199 that maybe April Fool's Day. I've heard both they named 1004 00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:25.320 it April Fool's Day, right, so yeahh but no, you're 1005 00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:28.239 you're You're right, Jonathan, Yeah, it's and you know, when 1006 00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:31.000 you look at the paganism behind Christmas. I'm actually gonna 1007 00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:35.199 do an episode on this, like Santa Claus and the 1008 00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:42.679 what's it called that Aminita mascaria mushroom, the reds and 1009 00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:47.559 the chimney being your spinal cord and like all that stuff. Dude, 1010 00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:52.480 that's gonna be a fun episode. But but yeah, you 1011 00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:55.960 see the pagan stuff in Christmas, and people don't even 1012 00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:59.239 know it or they won't accept it. Like me and 1013 00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:01.840 my wife know, and we actually put up like a 1014 00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:04.239 real reap one year that a lot of Christians would 1015 00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:07.360 have called us pagan for doing. But you know, we we. 1016 00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:11.360 Most of those Christians that do that really need to 1017 00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:14.079 pull the stick from their ass. Like, yes, I understand 1018 00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.880 bringing in an evergreen tree into your home during this 1019 00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:18.920 time of year is considered a pagan practice. 1020 00:53:18.920 --> 00:53:21.199 It's also considered American culture at this point. 1021 00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:25.000 Yeah, I'm just you're also also. 1022 00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:27.880 Like, pagan is such a wide term if you really 1023 00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:31.480 think about it, Like literally, anybody who wasn't a Christian 1024 00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:32.800 or a Jew was a pagan. 1025 00:53:33.039 --> 00:53:34.960 According to the Christians and Jews. 1026 00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:37.239 Yeah, it's just pre pre pre ahwah. 1027 00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:38.440 Right. 1028 00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:41.679 So whenever people say, oh, well it's paganistic values, it's like, 1029 00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:46.599 I all right, listen to how like that sounds wrong? 1030 00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:48.920 And I'm gonna tell you how it sounds wrong. The 1031 00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:51.679 reason it sounds wrong is is because whenever you got 1032 00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:54.840 a group of people, let's just say the Christians and 1033 00:53:54.880 --> 00:54:00.360 the Jews, let's just say Abrahamic religion people, right, those 1034 00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:03.039 people are saying, well, everybody that doesn't believe what we 1035 00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:06.000 believe in, we're now going to label them pagan. So 1036 00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:10.039 that means that literally, everybody that doesn't believe in you, 1037 00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:14.119 you're now pushing beliefs on what they all believe collectively. 1038 00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:17.559 And that's not necessarily the case. Some of them probably 1039 00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:21.159 did some other people. They probably worshiped other shit. They 1040 00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:23.239 probably there was probably a bunch of people that were 1041 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:26.039 into fay magic and people that were into all these 1042 00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:29.199 other kinds of like forest magic and weird shit like 1043 00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:31.679 I'm sure that like. And so whenever you say pagan 1044 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:35.760 it's an all encompassing stuff. Yeah, yeah, but it's all encompassing, 1045 00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:37.320 and it shouldn't be all encompassing. 1046 00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:39.880 You're It's the same with jew and Gentile. It's the 1047 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:43.119 same with a Muslim, in an Infidel, it's the same thing. 1048 00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:46.119 There's labels. There's same with Gypsies. You're either a Gypsy 1049 00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:48.679 or you're a Gorgia. There's there's the US in them. 1050 00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:51.119 That's all. It's the label, dude, right right. 1051 00:54:51.039 --> 00:54:53.280 Yeah, I don't know. When I think of pagan, I 1052 00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:57.320 just think of like you said, like pre pre pre Christian, 1053 00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:04.639 pre Roman britt you know, up to Scandinavia, basically also tribes, 1054 00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:08.159 just the Druidic tribes that were all throughout there. But 1055 00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:10.599 I mean they not not saying that they all were 1056 00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:14.800 part of the same kind of what you would probably 1057 00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:16.960 refer to as a mystery school. 1058 00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:19.280 I consider the Hindu's pagan. 1059 00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:23.840 Yeah, well, I don't know. I think the Hindu religion 1060 00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:25.239 it's it's a little different. 1061 00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:27.360 But I mean I don't mean that in a demeaning way. 1062 00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.639 Pagan to me has never meant like, oh you pagans. 1063 00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.480 Never some people do. It's been turned into a demeaning term, 1064 00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:38.400 and I hate that. I mean it to mean literally anything. 1065 00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:40.920 It could be Nordic, it could be Gaelic, it could 1066 00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:43.519 be Hindu, it could be Buddhist. Okay, so you worship 1067 00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:46.239 something other than me. Cool, I get it. 1068 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:48.760 Outside of the Bible, is pagan is basically. 1069 00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:51.400 What you're saying, Okay, basically, dude, I don't think that 1070 00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:54.840 it's a negative like kind of connotation. I would happily 1071 00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:56.760 carry the term pagan on my name, dude. 1072 00:55:56.880 --> 00:55:58.119 But it depends on the context. 1073 00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:02.559 Like you said, paganistic view now, real shit, let's just 1074 00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:06.159 have that talk. You mean, most morality of the entire 1075 00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:10.199 earth up until this point, paganistic views. Now, there are 1076 00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:15.320 some groups of Pagans with horrible views that do, in 1077 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.400 fact do like child sacrifice, rape as a part of 1078 00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:21.639 their culture, child brides mutilation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we need 1079 00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:24.719 to We need to fucking roast those people. Yes, But 1080 00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:29.199 paganistic views, First of all, I know multiple Nordic Pagans 1081 00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.960 and their view of morality and ethics and how to 1082 00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:35.480 behave and how to speak and how to treat people 1083 00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:38.360 and how to raise children. Gonna be honest with you, 1084 00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.519 looks very similar to me as a Christian, just saying. 1085 00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:46.000 You could say a lot of Pagans have like carry 1086 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:48.679 more Christian values than a lot of Christians. 1087 00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:51.920 Right now, let's ask this, is that a Western culture 1088 00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:56.039 thing or is that a religious dogma thing or. 1089 00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:59.159 Did they learn how to be people without needing a 1090 00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:00.639 religion to keep them in line? 1091 00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:03.920 But that's my point. Was it just culture society taught 1092 00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:04.239 them that? 1093 00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.039 Because then we make the argument that Western society is 1094 00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:11.159 Christian society because most of the Western culture is based 1095 00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:12.199 off of Catholicism. 1096 00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:13.960 What we want to acknowledge that or not. So it's 1097 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:16.039 like then it gets real murky. 1098 00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:18.400 Well, it's I mean, it's always been you are who 1099 00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:21.960 you surround yourself with, right Like, if you're like a 1100 00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:24.840 good person, you surround yourself with good people, and you 1101 00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:29.000 just so happen to be uh, I don't know, a 1102 00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:32.239 fucking Hindu or something like that doesn't doesn't mean that 1103 00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:34.760 you're going to be a bad person, you know, coming 1104 00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:37.519 from the perspective of a Christian, right Like, it just 1105 00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:40.880 means that, oh, there's somebody else that can have decent 1106 00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:43.559 values that doesn't have to value what I value. 1107 00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:47.079 Yeah, they just have different beliefs. And it's the same 1108 00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:51.000 thing you could say with people saying the Illuminati, when 1109 00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:54.400 it's really like these like hundreds of these different mystery 1110 00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:59.360 schools and these occult groups, and when you really get 1111 00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:02.400 into it see that, you know. So, yeah, it's the 1112 00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:08.679 same thing with labeling everything that's not Judeo Christian Pagan. 1113 00:58:09.519 --> 00:58:11.039 I'm not trying to come in here and be like 1114 00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:14.679 a Karen. And for the record, for the record, i 1115 00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:18.039 am wearing a nicotine patch and I'm chewing nicotine gum 1116 00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:19.920 because i quit vaping a couple of days ago. 1117 00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.239 So I've been on on edge for a fucking minute. 1118 00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:24.400 So I'm sorry if your guy you guys are having 1119 00:58:24.440 --> 00:58:25.800 to get your heads up. 1120 00:58:25.880 --> 00:58:27.840 To be honest with you, guys. This is the first 1121 00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:31.679 podcast I've done where there's like someone with like in 1122 00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:33.159 a different. 1123 00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:35.239 I don't know, alternate view. 1124 00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:38.639 Yeah, like I kind of like. 1125 00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.159 It, man, I really this is why we do this, dude, 1126 00:58:41.199 --> 00:58:44.000 because and I we see eye to eye on like 1127 00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:46.519 the big ship, on the like the real important Like Okay, 1128 00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:49.039 first of all, pedophiles need to rot. Like we can 1129 00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:51.360 all agree on that, you know what I'm saying, calling 1130 00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:54.000 out the elites, calling out the government officials, bop bah bah. 1131 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:56.760 We agree on these things, but on these types of things, dude, 1132 00:58:57.480 --> 00:58:59.360 this is never an echo chamber. 1133 00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:00.599 It literally it can't be. 1134 00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:03.400 And there's people that I watch it. I don't really 1135 00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:07.039 agree with completely Adam Green being one of them and 1136 00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:07.760 he's a pagan. 1137 00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:13.239 Yeah, no, I disagree with that the shit he says, 1138 00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:13.719 I get it. 1139 00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:18.360 Yeah, but but how boring is it? 1140 00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:21.239 How boring is it to put yourself in an echo 1141 00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:24.679 chamber where everybody agrees with you like that is. I 1142 00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:26.519 never want to be in that kind of group. And 1143 00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:30.719 that's probably what like magnetically pulled me and Jacob together 1144 00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:32.880 was because neither one of us really liked being in 1145 00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:35.239 those echo chambery kind of groups. 1146 00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:37.440 Because we like to believe that, like. 1147 00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:40.159 Yo, we got you know, we're not just people that 1148 00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:43.239 are following the masses. We're not just saying what what 1149 00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:45.480 we're saying because one of our favorite people said it 1150 00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:47.840 first and we like them, so we're gonna have the 1151 00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:50.920 same kind of opinion. No, like miss us with that bullshit, 1152 00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:54.719 Like this is open minded communication, And this is why 1153 00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:56.679 we got on the mic in the first place, because 1154 00:59:57.000 --> 01:00:00.280 we feel as if we're probably I'm not gonna say 1155 01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:03.000 we're special by any means, but we're different than a 1156 01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:05.880 lot of other podcasters out there, because there are a 1157 01:00:05.960 --> 01:00:08.679 lot of podcasters out there where you're gonna have two 1158 01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:11.320 or three or four hosts, and they all think the 1159 01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:12.119 same exact thing. 1160 01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:13.000 You may as well just. 1161 01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:16.199 Don't let me say that. You may as well just 1162 01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:19.239 just have one host at that point, right. 1163 01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:20.400 I mean it's true. 1164 01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:24.320 I mean, look, if you just do that, no one's 1165 01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:28.559 ever gonna learn anything. Even I have learned a fuck 1166 01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:31.199 ton from Jonathan. I'm assuming he's learned a fuck ton 1167 01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:35.199 from me, and we collectively have learned a metric fuck 1168 01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:38.599 ton from every single guest we've had on all right. 1169 01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:44.760 And that's that's how growth happens. Uncomfortable conversations, getting into 1170 01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.599 each other's shit, digging deeper into things, not just letting 1171 01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:51.039 it lie, like dude, that is how information can get shared. 1172 01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:53.639 That's how real education can happen. And that is how 1173 01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:59.400 possibly a shred of some growth can happen across the board. 1174 01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:01.840 And I mean, I'm not saying that we are making 1175 01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:04.920 that happen, but the fact that we might be contributing, 1176 01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:07.239 I mean, I love it, I really do. 1177 01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:11.159 That's awesome, man, Hell yeah, dude, that's what we're all about. 1178 01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:12.960 So all right, Joels, I. 1179 01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:14.840 Want to ask you a couple of awesome questions. 1180 01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:15.039 Now. 1181 01:01:15.239 --> 01:01:17.480 You and we tried to hit on a little bit earlier. 1182 01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:20.599 What is this whole talk about Loheim, Because I do 1183 01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:23.679 have a story that relates to the loheem. I'm not 1184 01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:25.400 going to go I'll give you the spark. 1185 01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:25.679 Notes to it. 1186 01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:30.639 I did a Super Heroes dosage of mushrooms one evening 1187 01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:32.960 by myself. Wasn't supposed to be that way. I was 1188 01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:35.199 supposed to be sharing it with somebody else, but I 1189 01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:37.440 ended up just being like, ah, they kind of they 1190 01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:42.360 didn't they didn't feel like it that. Yeah, So you know, 1191 01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:44.440 I got a little munched out and I hate the 1192 01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:48.079 rest of them. Yeah, so anyway, I hate the rest 1193 01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:51.039 of these mushrooms, which was I don't know, like a lot. 1194 01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:53.960 I couldn't even tell you, But what's that? 1195 01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:55.559 What kind were they? 1196 01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:56.920 Hydroponics? 1197 01:01:57.800 --> 01:01:59.880 The basic Little Brown's penis envy? 1198 01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:02.840 No, yo, I did get my hands on some apes 1199 01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:04.960 once upon a time, those things there. 1200 01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:14.599 I was, Yeah, dude, I've had penis envy albino caps Amazon, like, dude, 1201 01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:19.880 I've I've had like a couple from Southeast Asia. Been 1202 01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:22.119 a while, been a while. I need to take a 1203 01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:22.639 trip soon. 1204 01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:24.280 I feel like it's kind of gay to say the 1205 01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:25.119 penis envy. 1206 01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:28.519 First of all, yes, but a little gay maybe a 1207 01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:29.079 little gay. 1208 01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:33.360 So anyway, So anyway, I did a bunch of mushrooms 1209 01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:35.920 one night, and long story short, I went to go 1210 01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:37.920 lay down in my bed because I was really tired 1211 01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:40.800 of tripping. You know, mushrooms can last six seven hours sometimes, 1212 01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:43.320 and I was like, dude, just let me fall asleep. 1213 01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:45.559 And I went to go lay in my bed and 1214 01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:48.519 I hear like this trumpet voice and it announces itself 1215 01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:51.320 as the Yelohem, and before I know it, I'm asking 1216 01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:54.400 it questions and it's answering literally before I can even 1217 01:02:54.480 --> 01:02:57.039 finish asking the question. And it was like it went 1218 01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:59.480 on for like over one hundred questions. I don't remember 1219 01:02:59.480 --> 01:03:01.840 exactly what they were, but I do remember feeling very 1220 01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:07.599 comforted in what direction I was headed in afterward. And 1221 01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:10.679 and so yeah, so that's why whenever you mentioned the 1222 01:03:10.679 --> 01:03:13.119 whole lohem, I was like, let's see what you got 1223 01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:17.519 here with the lohem did because I definitely ride with him. 1224 01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:20.559 Well, it's it's really just. 1225 01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:27.199 Should I should probably know like the real definition of 1226 01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:35.320 the loheim. I do know. It pertains to let's see, 1227 01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:39.719 let's get do you want to get like an actual definition? 1228 01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:42.760 Because I can tell you my interpretation of what I 1229 01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:48.480 think they are now, I think the eloheem are just 1230 01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:55.559 so okay, So angel means messenger, right and in Greek. 1231 01:03:57.679 --> 01:03:59.800 Could also could also mean. 1232 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:05.519 And that's where it gets very scuttled up, is where 1233 01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:08.079 you know, angels are referred to as eloheim, God is 1234 01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:12.719 referred to him as Lohem, and there's they, and we 1235 01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:15.559 kind of talk whenever you're speaking of the elohem, and 1236 01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:17.679 that's why I kind of wanted your interpretation of it. 1237 01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:24.239 Yeah, well, the Lohem I think is plural, meaning like 1238 01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:29.880 a collective of angels. And I do believe that there's 1239 01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:38.760 some good and some bad, right now, could that be 1240 01:04:38.760 --> 01:04:45.480 because of maybe they were sent here to guide humanity 1241 01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:51.039 in a way, and maybe, uh, I don't know, try 1242 01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:55.239 to masquerade, because I mean, I don't know. If you're 1243 01:04:55.719 --> 01:05:00.840 an advanced being and you're from somewhere else, you're of 1244 01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:07.760 a higher consciousness, I don't know. I'd i'd probably like 1245 01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:11.840 it if people worship me too, right, I mean if 1246 01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:19.239 if in that time, especially one hundred percent, So really, 1247 01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:20.400 just what's up? 1248 01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:24.559 Well, let me ask you this now, because in Genesis, 1249 01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:29.000 if you go back to the original translation translation, it 1250 01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:35.280 does say in the beginning eloheem created. So it's talking 1251 01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:38.880 about where you would see the normal translation as God. 1252 01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:42.039 It says, Eloheem. 1253 01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:44.000 Created, created the heavens in the earth. 1254 01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:48.840 So are you of the belief that God is plural? 1255 01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:55.760 I think it's more of the belief that that story. 1256 01:05:57.679 --> 01:06:00.360 So when you read the story of what I would 1257 01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:05.920 call it the the Yloheim, the Fallen Lohem, you see 1258 01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:10.400 that they may have taken creation and manipulated it, and 1259 01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:13.039 that's where you get hybrids from. That's that's where you 1260 01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:18.320 get fallen angelic races, even cryptids. You you could say 1261 01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:22.400 that's something that I'm I'm kind of still looking into, dude. 1262 01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:25.840 And the same thing goes with when when people give 1263 01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:32.239 a name to the Creator, like Yahweh or Jehovah. Because 1264 01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:38.239 Jehovah's Witness was started by Charles Tay's Russell of the 1265 01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:43.719 Russell Illuminati bloodline right right, and they're worshiping Jehovah. Jay 1266 01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:48.679 Z is called Jehovah. So I mean, I think when 1267 01:06:48.679 --> 01:06:52.280 you give God too many names, you turn it into 1268 01:06:54.519 --> 01:06:58.639 I don't know, or when when you give an entity 1269 01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:01.159 too many names, you you kind of turn it into 1270 01:07:01.199 --> 01:07:04.239 something else. I just like to call him the Creator. 1271 01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:06.960 That's something that I'm just you know, kind of kind 1272 01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:10.800 of kind of questionable about, and I have been right 1273 01:07:12.559 --> 01:07:16.639 now that that doesn't change my belief that Christ came here, 1274 01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:20.480 you know, from the Creator. 1275 01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:23.480 Well, most believe the yellow heen being plural with me 1276 01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:25.880 like father, son, and Holy Spirit, like kind of thing 1277 01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:29.599 like let us create men an our image would be 1278 01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.800 like the three in one thing? 1279 01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:36.239 Do most believe that, Jacob, is that your believe Most 1280 01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:39.880 Christians understand that that when we're speaking about God in 1281 01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:43.920 the beginning, there was once God and the Word was God. 1282 01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:45.960 And that's like the whole point. That would be the Holy. 1283 01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:49.239 Spirit right be of God the Father, and we have 1284 01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:52.000 the Son who He sent to her to be the sacrifice, 1285 01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:54.039 and then the Holy Spirit that moves through both of them. 1286 01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:56.000 And it's that's like. 1287 01:07:56.280 --> 01:08:00.079 Again, per yeah, not where I'm at with it, But 1288 01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:02.800 again it could also mean because God gave so many 1289 01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:03.920 aims to call him. 1290 01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:06.519 You know, you may be more grounded in your beliefs 1291 01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:11.239 than than I am, you know, like opinion, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1292 01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:14.639 But dude, I mean it's just stuff that I question. Man, 1293 01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:18.560 I question quite a lot, probably too much, right, I mean. 1294 01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:21.039 Not necessarily, dude, You're supposed to question ship. 1295 01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:24.239 Well, yeah, well it's these translations and stuff. Everything has 1296 01:08:24.279 --> 01:08:29.199 been rewritten so much over time, changed in some way 1297 01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:34.119 or you know, So that's why I you know, I 1298 01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:41.239 think the Bible is very important on getting to Christ, 1299 01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:44.520 getting in touch with that Holy Spirit. But as far 1300 01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:47.079 as the relationship with Christ, I think you can't find 1301 01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:49.680 knowledge in those texts. But I think it is more 1302 01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:52.399 of a spiritual thing something you have to do every 1303 01:08:52.479 --> 01:09:00.640 day in your life. Agreed. Yeah, yeah, I mean you'll 1304 01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:04.399 never be perfect, right, Nope, but that that's the point, 1305 01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:09.079 is to constantly have faith, right and to stay stay 1306 01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:13.000 walking in that light. So, like I said, man, a 1307 01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:15.800 lot of there's some Christians that don't probably don't like me. 1308 01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:18.760 That's that's that's their problem. 1309 01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:22.600 Look, most Christians probably wouldn't agree with most other Christians. 1310 01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:23.039 I would. 1311 01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:25.479 I would venture because I'm not gonna lie to you. 1312 01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:27.920 We've talked to a lot of Christians on this show, 1313 01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:32.319 and Jacob is just about a I mean, I'm not 1314 01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:34.039 gonna say they love me, but I would say that 1315 01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:38.479 like absolutely, like just seeing it hate me. Well that's 1316 01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:40.239 what I was gonna say, is that just looking at 1317 01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:43.359 the conversations between a Christian guest that we get on 1318 01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:44.680 and Jacob. 1319 01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:45.760 Love this most of the time. 1320 01:09:46.119 --> 01:09:49.640 They're there are different philosophies and different ways of looking 1321 01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:52.000 at the Bible, and that it didn't mean this, No, 1322 01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:54.840 it meant this. And it's not necessarily an argument or 1323 01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:57.600 a battle or anything. It's just you know, uh, two 1324 01:09:57.680 --> 01:10:00.920 different personalities coming together and trying to makes sense of 1325 01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:06.600 this ancient doctrine that we call the Bible. And you 1326 01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:09.399 know that's which is fun. It's fun like seeing the 1327 01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:11.039 different people and saying, this. 1328 01:10:11.039 --> 01:10:12.720 Is what I believe out of it. No, this is 1329 01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:13.680 what I believe about. 1330 01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:17.760 It, because that's where I find most of my like 1331 01:10:17.920 --> 01:10:20.520 Christian knowledge is on the show like Believe it or not. 1332 01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:23.039 And I'm not a Christian, but I'm always here to 1333 01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:26.159 listen to it, and I love hearing whenever people bring up, 1334 01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:27.760 like what they found in the Bible. 1335 01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:30.319 Some of the crazy stories and some of the crazy. 1336 01:10:29.960 --> 01:10:35.680 Connections that even like the connections with Christianity and other religions, 1337 01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:37.479 like I find that pretty fascinating as well. 1338 01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:41.640 Yes, yes, that that is fascinating, dude. And you see 1339 01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:44.520 it with the Old Testament, like with with with what 1340 01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:49.600 you were saying, people were fucked up in the Old Testament, man, 1341 01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:53.720 you know. Yeah, I mean, and that's why I believe 1342 01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:56.560 the New Testament is a little more important as well 1343 01:10:56.600 --> 01:11:00.520 as it's a new Covenant, right, So not to forget 1344 01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:05.439 the Old Covenant, but yeah, and there's a lot we 1345 01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:11.159 could go into with that would with the the US. 1346 01:11:11.520 --> 01:11:15.760 I don't know if y'all y'all talked about the. 1347 01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:21.000 I see huh. So you know who Brandon Kroll is. 1348 01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:23.720 I I haven't talked to Brandon, but I saw him 1349 01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:30.640 on NDS and he went on Realities Ours but I haven't. 1350 01:11:31.279 --> 01:11:36.439 I did just have dustin Nemo so on, so that. Yeah, 1351 01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:39.039 so that was interesting. He's he's a pretty cool guy. 1352 01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:43.319 But yeah, I mean, you know, it's it's kind of 1353 01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:45.840 impossible to get in to not get into that stuff, 1354 01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:48.439 especially when you you're talking about the culture right now 1355 01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:51.039 and what's going on in the world. Yeah, I mean, 1356 01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:53.439 all eyes are really on one place, right. 1357 01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:56.720 Absolutely, talk about Israel? 1358 01:11:57.520 --> 01:11:58.800 Yeah, yeah, why are they? 1359 01:11:58.880 --> 01:11:59.840 Why are all eyes there? 1360 01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:04.039 I guess it depends on which side of the isle 1361 01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:06.479 you're asking, though you ask the Democrats. 1362 01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:08.319 All eyes are in Ukraine and Iran. 1363 01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:11.119 We could get into that, man, all eyes are on 1364 01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:13.920 there because I mean, we're sending all our. 1365 01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:16.079 Money there right in Ukraine. 1366 01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:19.840 You mean, oh Ukraine, there's two proxy wars that were 1367 01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:26.279 funding I think. Yeah, dude, I think I don't know, man. 1368 01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:30.199 And is there something to the Israel the isis ra. 1369 01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:36.199 L Right, I have heard a little bit of you know, 1370 01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:37.359 stuff like that. 1371 01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:42.119 Just like with Genesis, the generations of Isis. Like you 1372 01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:46.600 when you when you recognize etymology, Man, it's something you 1373 01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:51.079 have to question rights and it may be uncomfortable, but 1374 01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:54.159 something I have to deal with in my own life. 1375 01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:58.000 But yeah, man, I mean, I don't know. I think 1376 01:12:58.039 --> 01:13:00.960 in the last and in the last year, a lot 1377 01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:03.960 of people have woken up to I don't know the 1378 01:13:04.119 --> 01:13:10.479 strings being pulled in our world that have been being 1379 01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:15.199 pulled for a long time now. And uh, when you 1380 01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:18.640 recognize a lot of the ancient mystery schools, they all 1381 01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:23.960 go back to the Kabbalah, right, they all the Kabbalic mysticism. Yeah, 1382 01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:31.840 Freemasonry isn't you know? Jewish? Solomon was a jewe. 1383 01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:33.560 Man book Morals and Dogma says without the kabbala what 1384 01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:34.560 is freemasonry? 1385 01:13:35.159 --> 01:13:40.399 There? You go? Brother? Yeah, man, So you gotta you 1386 01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:43.560 gotta look at that stuff. And and also the whole 1387 01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:48.239 thing you have the theory of Trump being the the Motionoch, right, 1388 01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:50.399 meaning the Messiah. 1389 01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:53.199 Okay, so what have you found on this regard Because 1390 01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:56.279 I'm gonna be honest with you, half the people believe 1391 01:13:56.359 --> 01:13:59.279 that he is the Antichrist, half the people believe he's 1392 01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:02.560 the actual Mesah, and then there's normal people who are like, bro, 1393 01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:04.000 what are y'all talking about? 1394 01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:04.239 Right? 1395 01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:06.359 So I think we're there in the middle, like, what 1396 01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:07.520 are y'all talking about? 1397 01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:11.079 So from your angle and from your level of research, 1398 01:14:11.359 --> 01:14:13.720 what have you found on this which side looks like 1399 01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:15.720 it might have a little more credence than the other 1400 01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:16.680 to you personally? 1401 01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:17.239 Where yet? 1402 01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:23.800 Well, dude, I mean you can see that there are 1403 01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:31.159 like top tier rabbis out there calling him their motion mhm, 1404 01:14:32.039 --> 01:14:37.079 like straight up, just like Trump, Trump is the Messiah, 1405 01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:39.720 you know, like oh, and then you're just like whoa dude, 1406 01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:45.720 because you know, Christ wasn't there there, Messiah. He was 1407 01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:48.479 a liar and a thief to the most Jews, right 1408 01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:54.159 and and uh, when you read I mean you can 1409 01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:57.920 talk about the talent, and the talent is misquoted. They 1410 01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:00.479 put those fake memes out there to kind of like 1411 01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:03.199 you know, I mean, if you try to bring it 1412 01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:04.680 up to a Jew, they'll be like, that's not real. 1413 01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:07.279 That's not real, that's not real. Uh. But some of 1414 01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:10.880 those are real. And when you read it that a 1415 01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:13.680 lot of the shit is real. They just it's real, 1416 01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:15.039 well hidden. Right. 1417 01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:18.279 Look at Ari Shaffir, he he wasn't you know that 1418 01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:19.640 is uh yeah, oh yeah. 1419 01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:20.560 The comedian dude. 1420 01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:22.600 He was in rebbiblical school and then left it all. 1421 01:15:22.640 --> 01:15:25.239 I think he's an atheist these days. But like he 1422 01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:27.880 did a whole comedy special called the Jew or I 1423 01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:31.760 think just Jew, and he brought up all these ridiculous 1424 01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:34.279 rules that are in the Talmud that like he broke 1425 01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:36.640 down the correct context and it's. 1426 01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:40.319 This whole thing. It's like, yo, some of those. 1427 01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:43.399 You're correct, are out of context and horribly misquoted. 1428 01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:47.720 Some of those are not. Some of those are actually 1429 01:15:47.800 --> 01:15:48.399 true to form. 1430 01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:51.640 It's more absolutely right, and the real fucked up ones 1431 01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:52.479 are not right. 1432 01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:56.520 Like it's wild, dude, it's wild, dude. And but the 1433 01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:00.039 same could be said about Islam too. I saw this 1434 01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:02.479 one thing. It was like twenty quotes from the Koran, 1435 01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:05.680 and it talked about how find the infidels where you 1436 01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:07.960 can and hook them by their bellies and all these things. 1437 01:16:08.039 --> 01:16:10.279 Right, yeah, yeah, some of those on. 1438 01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:12.960 This list were misquoted because if you look at the 1439 01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:15.560 context that this was talking about, they had just been 1440 01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:18.960 attacked by these people. They were about to go get retribution. 1441 01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:21.560 There was like a whole thing to it. But then 1442 01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:24.880 there were other ones that were absolutely not out of context, 1443 01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:28.560 were absolutely what we were thinking they were trying to say. 1444 01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:31.760 And basically they think that they think all infidels should 1445 01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:34.680 be slaughtered or forced to convert, and that's like a 1446 01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:35.720 real thing, and it's like. 1447 01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:40.079 Okay, cool. And then there are others from the Old Testament, 1448 01:16:40.199 --> 01:16:43.399 same shit, some of them horribly misquoted, some of them 1449 01:16:44.199 --> 01:16:44.760 as much. 1450 01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:50.279 Yeah, yeah, dude, you're you're absolutely right, man. And so 1451 01:16:50.439 --> 01:16:53.600 I guess it's like a question of it, like is 1452 01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:56.760 it Jewish supremacy. Yeah, I think it is. I mean 1453 01:16:56.760 --> 01:16:59.640 that's why they refer to everyone who's a gentile as 1454 01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:05.039 a as a boy, right, which means cattle, and so 1455 01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:11.199 like we're just their their work slaves basically, like, and 1456 01:17:11.439 --> 01:17:14.319 they'll admit to that, like we do all the workout 1457 01:17:14.359 --> 01:17:16.800 in the real world, and they sit up, you know, 1458 01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:19.640 running all the corporations and all this stuff and just 1459 01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:23.640 kind of you know, watch watch everything play out, and uh, 1460 01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:25.399 they'll admit to this stuff. Bro. 1461 01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:29.680 Like bro to our homie on the front lines in Israel, Jonathan. 1462 01:17:30.079 --> 01:17:32.159 I just remember it. He came on our show once 1463 01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:35.720 upon a time. He's in Israel. We have been going on. 1464 01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:41.520 Not just this episode, multiple episodes about this type of topic. 1465 01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:45.000 I'm wondering what his like thoughts are on this. 1466 01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:48.000 I don't know. He's been getting smoked in my fantasy 1467 01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:49.960 football league, though, yo? 1468 01:17:50.239 --> 01:17:50.680 Has he? 1469 01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:51.600 Yeah? 1470 01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:54.079 He started out strong, but then he, like a lot 1471 01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:56.000 of his players, got injured, and I don't know. He 1472 01:17:56.079 --> 01:17:58.119 might be fighting a war and not setting his lineup, 1473 01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:00.119 which that's okay. 1474 01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:04.000 Pick your priorities, dude, fantasy football or the front line. 1475 01:18:04.079 --> 01:18:06.359 Come on now, I mean, I feel like there's a 1476 01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:09.359 world where there's time for both. Personally, I feel like 1477 01:18:09.359 --> 01:18:11.600 there should be learn to time manage better. 1478 01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:13.840 Bro, Come on, I mean, just check it while you're 1479 01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:15.840 on the shitter in the morning at least, Bro, you 1480 01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:16.520 know what I'm saying. 1481 01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:18.760 Yo, Is he still fighting? 1482 01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:21.399 I suppose he is. 1483 01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:23.479 He was only down for that short period of time 1484 01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:24.960 that he said he was getting back out there. 1485 01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:28.560 So I wonder, all right, because and not just to 1486 01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:29.920 that one homie shout. 1487 01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:35.079 Out to ari Ya, I'm wondering how they feel about 1488 01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:38.640 the whole Jewish supremacy thing, because like, it's not them. 1489 01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:42.319 It's obviously like Rothschild. It's obviously like that echelon of 1490 01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:42.960 these people. 1491 01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:47.319 But like there's a Rothschild boulevard in Israel, right, correct, 1492 01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:54.079 Victor Rothschild did the ballfloor decoration? Is Lord Balfloor? 1493 01:18:54.800 --> 01:18:58.079 Do we know if David is the new patriarch? I 1494 01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:00.920 think they named him as the new and everything Jacob died. 1495 01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:07.399 David Rod that's Evelyn's son, right, I think? So Nathaniel, 1496 01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:10.079 there's Nathaniel who's Jacob's son. And this is one of 1497 01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:13.319 the first things when I started doing research back when 1498 01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:17.960 I got clean. I dived it into the bloodlines and 1499 01:19:18.119 --> 01:19:21.520 like who these families were, their story, like all this stuff. 1500 01:19:22.800 --> 01:19:25.279 And so there's Nathaniel who's the son of Jacob, and 1501 01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:27.000 then there is David. 1502 01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:31.439 Nathaniel's an idiot, though, isn't he Like he's he's nick 1503 01:19:31.479 --> 01:19:34.880 he is. Yeah, the inbreeding went a little deep on 1504 01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:39.399 that one. Like if I'm not mistaken, and if I'm 1505 01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:40.760 If I'm wrong, then fuck it. 1506 01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:42.079 It's a rothschild, doesn't matter. 1507 01:19:42.159 --> 01:19:45.840 But like I'm just saying, if I'm not mistaken, he 1508 01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:48.840 because you know, they can only marry second cousins are closer. 1509 01:19:48.960 --> 01:19:49.800 That's how they kept it. 1510 01:19:49.920 --> 01:19:53.800 Why what's his name? Married to Hilton exactly? Exactly right, 1511 01:19:53.920 --> 01:19:58.159 So John or not John? What the fuck's his name? Uh? 1512 01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:00.560 I think he may be the son of the roths 1513 01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:04.840 child that hanged himself, James, James, the rothschild. 1514 01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:10.079 Yeah, yeah, but like Nathaniel, like there was yeah right 1515 01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:12.640 right right hung hung hu. 1516 01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:17.199 Yeah, but uh, the they were talking about maybe Nathaniel 1517 01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:19.600 would take it, but like no one thought that was 1518 01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:21.039 a smooth move for the family. 1519 01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:23.920 I want to say they named David as the new head. 1520 01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:27.279 Could be wrong, could be wrong. Maybe they did give 1521 01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:28.800 its old Nate. Well, he's the. 1522 01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:31.920 One out there doing all his global warming shilling and shit. 1523 01:20:32.079 --> 01:20:34.840 And I feel like that's kind of why they did, 1524 01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:37.319 because he's young, he's still out there, he's still. 1525 01:20:37.079 --> 01:20:40.479 Gives He kind of looks like Jesus, right exactly. 1526 01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:43.039 And so if you've already got that going on and 1527 01:20:43.079 --> 01:20:45.880 you've got that type of fortune behind you, like he 1528 01:20:46.039 --> 01:20:48.239 has the energy to push the family through the next 1529 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:48.840 fifty years. 1530 01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:49.439 You know what I mean? 1531 01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:50.479 Right right? 1532 01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:52.880 Who knows for a while? 1533 01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:57.319 Dude, they had that for quite some time. 1534 01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:00.640 It was wild when he died. He died in seventies. 1535 01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:02.199 They usually lived to their nineties. 1536 01:21:02.439 --> 01:21:05.439 There was a big talk if there was some controversy 1537 01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:07.920 around his death, but as far as every record I 1538 01:21:07.960 --> 01:21:10.920 could find, this was from natural causes. 1539 01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:12.359 Nothing looked awry. 1540 01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:16.600 But uh, speaking of random deaths, have y'all heard about 1541 01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:18.800 the assassination in New York. 1542 01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:21.319 I was gonna ask y'all about that. What so, like 1543 01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:26.720 what happened? Because I've seen the stills of the motherfucker 1544 01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:29.399 on the camera and he's just like real, kind of 1545 01:21:29.479 --> 01:21:32.239 like no home homo, but like kind of handsome. It 1546 01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:34.399 looks happy, Yeah, it looks very happy. 1547 01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:37.800 But then there's another still frame of a completely different 1548 01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:40.680 dude wearing the same coat, and it's like, wait, that's 1549 01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:43.279 not even the right guy. I'm hearing people say, Oh, 1550 01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:45.159 this dude at prior training. He could tell by the 1551 01:21:45.199 --> 01:21:47.880 way he hailed the pistol. But then the gun jammed 1552 01:21:48.159 --> 01:21:51.600 three fucking times. I don't know an assassin that would 1553 01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:52.520 have that happen. 1554 01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:54.479 That's that shit work man. 1555 01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:57.319 That's what I'm saying, Like, was this like the d 1556 01:21:57.439 --> 01:22:01.159 squad amateur dude? Yeah, yeah, amateur hour out here. 1557 01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:01.520 Boys. 1558 01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:09.000 Wow, he just capped the uh who uh the United States? 1559 01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:09.199 Uh? 1560 01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:11.600 Who was it again? 1561 01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:14.960 Ahead of the healthcare dude? 1562 01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:19.359 Yeah, didn't he fuck over tons of like lower class 1563 01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:21.560 families and like, yeah, class families. 1564 01:22:21.960 --> 01:22:24.439 Oh my god, these fucking idiots. 1565 01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:24.720 Bro. 1566 01:22:25.119 --> 01:22:30.600 They all right, bro, the news, the mainstream media is saying, 1567 01:22:30.960 --> 01:22:33.319 there seems to be no clear motive as to why 1568 01:22:33.399 --> 01:22:34.279 this this man. 1569 01:22:34.279 --> 01:22:35.439 All right, pause. 1570 01:22:36.520 --> 01:22:40.439 This is the CEO of United Healthcare. They are the 1571 01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:46.239 largest healthcare insurance brokerage on Earth. Hard pause on that 1572 01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:51.840 the CEO of this organization gets shot outside of a 1573 01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:57.640 hotel at a charity event, and you think that there 1574 01:22:57.720 --> 01:23:03.600 was no motive, that's right, that's right off the rip. 1575 01:23:04.239 --> 01:23:05.279 Preposterous. 1576 01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:09.199 Then we find out, oh wait a minute, he's indicted 1577 01:23:09.239 --> 01:23:12.319 for like was it twelve billion or some shit. He 1578 01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:15.239 and his buddies are being indicted for like a massive 1579 01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:16.079 Ponzi scheme. 1580 01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:19.479 Yeah, so it's like, dude, I didn't know that. 1581 01:23:20.079 --> 01:23:22.159 Oh yeah, no, No, that's gonna start coming out in 1582 01:23:22.159 --> 01:23:24.560 the next couple of days. It's I'm telling you, bro, 1583 01:23:24.640 --> 01:23:26.199 it's a wild time to be alive. 1584 01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:32.800 It's not even a political assassinations. They're going for insurance CEOs. Now. 1585 01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:34.880 The fucking bullets had words on them. 1586 01:23:34.920 --> 01:23:40.640 What was it like, uh disrupt, uh disturb and disposed? 1587 01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:43.520 Yeah yeah, bro, wow, dude. 1588 01:23:43.359 --> 01:23:44.960 That's fucking that's kind of cryptic. 1589 01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:45.239 Bro. 1590 01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:46.680 Uh huh. 1591 01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:48.880 Well, and if you look at the uh, if you 1592 01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:53.159 look at mainstream media reporting it, they are all, you know, 1593 01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:57.039 getting in lockstep saying the same exact thing. If you 1594 01:23:57.119 --> 01:23:59.960 check out AP news, this is actually uh Isaac Wisup 1595 01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:03.439 posted this the other day, which I love him, but 1596 01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:08.119 it says AP news reported United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson 1597 01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:10.800 kept a low profile, then he was shot. Then you 1598 01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:15.000 check out the telegraphed Brian Thompson, the health insurance lifer 1599 01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:17.239 who kept a deliberately low profile. 1600 01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:18.880 Checkout PBS. 1601 01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:23.680 United Healthcare ceo kept a low public profile before he 1602 01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:26.960 was killed in a New York attack. CBS news, Who 1603 01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:31.000 was Brian Thompson, the United Healthcare ceo shot dead in Manhattan? 1604 01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:34.039 And it's like and then you got inc dot com 1605 01:24:34.079 --> 01:24:37.840 slain United Healthcare ceo kept a low profile before his 1606 01:24:37.880 --> 01:24:42.239 shocking killing, Like, why why is it so important that 1607 01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:43.960 you get out the message that he was keeping a 1608 01:24:43.960 --> 01:24:44.720 low profile? 1609 01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:45.960 That's what I wanted, right. 1610 01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:48.800 Nobody knew who this guy was. It's not like this 1611 01:24:48.840 --> 01:24:52.479 is Tony Stark. He's not some playboy billionaire philanthropist. 1612 01:24:52.520 --> 01:24:55.319 It's like he died. 1613 01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:58.680 No one knows this fucking guy's name. Bro, Like, of 1614 01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:02.239 course he kept a low profile. He's a billionaire. But 1615 01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:05.159 all the news mea, they got to keep that rolling. 1616 01:25:05.239 --> 01:25:07.600 They just got to keep more words, sin words, throw 1617 01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:08.399 more things at. 1618 01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:10.000 The wall, just to see what sticks until you find 1619 01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:10.479 out more. 1620 01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:13.920 Yeah, because it keeps people from questioning what may have 1621 01:25:14.039 --> 01:25:16.399 really happened, right and looking into it more, which you know, 1622 01:25:16.439 --> 01:25:18.760 schizos are like an autists are just going to go 1623 01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:19.880 do a. 1624 01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:23.800 You're speaking to two professional autists. Do we weaponize our shit? 1625 01:25:24.239 --> 01:25:24.680 Me too? 1626 01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:26.279 Wait? 1627 01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:26.399 What? 1628 01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:29.119 No? 1629 01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:32.439 It is interesting and and uh, you know, I whenever 1630 01:25:32.479 --> 01:25:34.520 I see shit like that, it makes me wonder how 1631 01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:38.399 many of these mainstream media articles are written by AI 1632 01:25:39.079 --> 01:25:41.359 you know, like where you only type in a couple 1633 01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:44.239 of keywords and then it writes the whole thing for you. 1634 01:25:44.720 --> 01:25:47.800 It makes me think whenever you got like is it yeah, 1635 01:25:47.840 --> 01:25:50.279 I know that there's a lot of news that you know, 1636 01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:52.800 they they kind of get like their information from the 1637 01:25:52.840 --> 01:25:55.479 top down. So a lot of your local news is 1638 01:25:55.520 --> 01:25:59.119 going to be literally reading almost word for word. If 1639 01:25:59.159 --> 01:26:02.000 it's something that's happened nationally, it's gonna be reading word 1640 01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:04.760 for word from whatever was trickled down to them. But 1641 01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:08.199 this kind of thing right here, it seems a little 1642 01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:10.880 bit different as far as like maybe AI. 1643 01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:15.199 Do you remember the Hollywood writers strike because AI was 1644 01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:19.680 taking their jobs. Bro, every reporter that's like, you know, 1645 01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:22.039 got a million things they're trying to do. Of course, 1646 01:26:22.079 --> 01:26:23.760 I'll throw some AI on a thing to get an 1647 01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:24.920 article written to meet a. 1648 01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:28.000 Deadline, for sure. Why I know you gotta stay competitive. 1649 01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:31.239 Oh yeah, I it doesn't even shock me if AI 1650 01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:32.520 wrote every one of those. 1651 01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:33.279 To be honest with. 1652 01:26:33.239 --> 01:26:38.359 You, it's probably the case because these people are so unoriginal, Bro, 1653 01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:41.720 They've just been parroting the same old bullshit and nobody's 1654 01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:44.000 listening to them. And if nobody's listening to them, that 1655 01:26:44.039 --> 01:26:46.199 means their ratings are going down. And if their ratings 1656 01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:48.159 are going down, then they're not making any money on 1657 01:26:48.199 --> 01:26:51.119 their TV shows or any of their articles, because nothing 1658 01:26:51.159 --> 01:26:54.760 you say is even clickbaity anymore, because you've been proven 1659 01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:58.600 false and in steering an agenda for years now, and 1660 01:26:58.640 --> 01:26:59.119 I think the. 1661 01:26:59.079 --> 01:27:01.199 Majority of people are just kind of fed up with it. 1662 01:27:01.359 --> 01:27:03.800 So what do you do instead of having to pay 1663 01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:07.439 some kind of journalist or some kind of publisher or 1664 01:27:07.520 --> 01:27:08.279 somebody like. 1665 01:27:08.319 --> 01:27:10.520 That, just higher AI. 1666 01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:12.319 It's free, and that AI. 1667 01:27:12.199 --> 01:27:14.800 Doesn't really it doesn't matter like if this, if this 1668 01:27:14.920 --> 01:27:19.119 article gets one click or five million clicks. 1669 01:27:18.920 --> 01:27:22.279 That AI it doesn't really matter. Like it's not getting 1670 01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:24.359 paid one way or another either either way. 1671 01:27:24.479 --> 01:27:27.720 Right, Yeah, dude, the mainstream media is cooked, bro, Like 1672 01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:31.840 it's it's it's it's a rap for them. Yeah. But 1673 01:27:32.119 --> 01:27:36.760 it's crazy how you can get AI to literally like 1674 01:27:36.920 --> 01:27:42.199 write or create anything for you now, like any image. 1675 01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:45.319 It's fucking wild, dude. I remember when they really got 1676 01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:47.880 big these past couple of years and all these like 1677 01:27:48.039 --> 01:27:52.479 cryptied you know, these fake Cryptid images and stuff were 1678 01:27:52.520 --> 01:27:55.640 coming out and giants and all that. It's, uh, it's 1679 01:27:55.760 --> 01:27:59.359 very discrediting, you know, uh to people who have been 1680 01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:01.640 looking at into that ship for a while. I do 1681 01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:04.680 a cryptid show. That's what my last show I didn't 1682 01:28:04.760 --> 01:28:10.560 mention earlier, called Cryptid Watch where on every other Sunday, actually, 1683 01:28:10.600 --> 01:28:15.319 like next Sunday, I go live on Rumble and they 1684 01:28:15.359 --> 01:28:17.640 hang out with with my chat and just watch cryptid 1685 01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:20.720 videos for a couple of hours. It's good ship. And 1686 01:28:20.840 --> 01:28:24.600 now we talk about like the relations between cryptids and 1687 01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:28.560 like where they may have come from and a lot 1688 01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:31.720 because like what I was saying earlier in the Sumerian stories, 1689 01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:35.760 especially with Inky and both who his earlier name was 1690 01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:42.800 Ninga Zita. He is like the middle child of of Inky. Uh. 1691 01:28:42.920 --> 01:28:48.239 They were creating hybrids, right, like all these humanoids and stuff. 1692 01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:51.600 And and then the story it says they were naming 1693 01:28:51.640 --> 01:28:56.920 them like a Damu and a Dappa, which would be 1694 01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:02.159 like Adam, right, but all the these other creations like 1695 01:29:02.479 --> 01:29:06.800 they weren't. They all had these like abnormalities about them, 1696 01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:10.199 so they would just let them go, right, like hundreds 1697 01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:14.119 of different hybrids and stuff. So that's one way to 1698 01:29:14.159 --> 01:29:14.760 look at it. 1699 01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:16.520 What are your sources for that? 1700 01:29:17.479 --> 01:29:18.439 For for for what? 1701 01:29:19.239 --> 01:29:23.199 For pretty much that entire uh spectrum of thinking so 1702 01:29:23.279 --> 01:29:23.760 to speak. 1703 01:29:23.960 --> 01:29:27.479 Oh no, that's that's just the Sumerian stories and got uh. 1704 01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:33.000 The the the interpretation of like this tablet called Inky 1705 01:29:33.039 --> 01:29:36.319 in the world order, got you I got you, which 1706 01:29:36.359 --> 01:29:40.920 is mostly you know, Sitching translated wrote and like a 1707 01:29:40.960 --> 01:29:42.800 lot of people don't like him, so you have to 1708 01:29:42.880 --> 01:29:46.760 kind of That's why I questioned some of what he writes. 1709 01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:50.239 You know, I have some healthy skepticism about it. I 1710 01:29:50.359 --> 01:29:54.399 just find the similarities in these other stories to be uncanny, dude, like. 1711 01:29:54.800 --> 01:29:58.640 Shout out to planet X. Huh, shout out to planet X. 1712 01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:03.640 Shout out planet X, which may be a dimension? Okay, 1713 01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:07.840 all right, well debrew as as a dimension, dude, maybe. 1714 01:30:08.680 --> 01:30:11.359 It's very well possible, dude. I think that. As far 1715 01:30:11.439 --> 01:30:15.000 as like who knows what the hell Zacharia Sitchen was 1716 01:30:15.119 --> 01:30:16.520 or is it Zechariah? 1717 01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:18.600 I think uh Riah Sichen. 1718 01:30:18.760 --> 01:30:23.199 Yeah, dude, it's it's pretty crazy either way. But I 1719 01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:25.840 did want to get your opinion on it. As far 1720 01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:30.119 as the cryptids and whenever you talk about Bigfoot and 1721 01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:33.800 just name your cryptid, really, but do you believe that 1722 01:30:33.840 --> 01:30:35.000 they're all nephelum? 1723 01:30:38.960 --> 01:30:42.079 That's a fair question because we have had a lot 1724 01:30:42.119 --> 01:30:45.039 of different people run the gambit on this, like are 1725 01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:49.399 we talking Bigfoot and Nessy and the Jersey Devil or 1726 01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:50.119 what do we mean? 1727 01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:51.600 I mean skin Walker. 1728 01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:56.399 About portals and stuff. I think some some of these cryptids, 1729 01:30:56.479 --> 01:31:02.680 these these creatures may come from other places. Now, I 1730 01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:06.359 think when you look at the nephilum Uh, now this 1731 01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:12.600 comes from you know, the gigi angels, like the the 1732 01:31:13.039 --> 01:31:19.039 Lesser Watcher angels. You had the Nephilum, but you also 1733 01:31:19.119 --> 01:31:21.600 had other tribes of giants, right, you had the rep 1734 01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:26.840 i Em, you had the anachem Uh and a couple 1735 01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:29.920 other ones. But they had the Nephilam had kids and 1736 01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:34.119 and they're I think they're called the nephil and then 1737 01:31:34.199 --> 01:31:38.680 the Elho. And this is a they basically like the 1738 01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:40.880 description next to him in one of the books that 1739 01:31:40.920 --> 01:31:43.800 I have is of like a caveman and the other 1740 01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:48.600 one looking like a sasquatch. Right, So I think maybe 1741 01:31:48.680 --> 01:31:53.520 some cryptids may stem from ancient races of giants. Yeah, 1742 01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:56.119 I think that could be possible now all of them. 1743 01:31:56.479 --> 01:32:02.319 I do think Mathman maybe like a fallen angel or 1744 01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:07.479 something like race. Like, dude, it's it's it's a lot 1745 01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:10.079 to get into. That's one of the fucking best things 1746 01:32:10.079 --> 01:32:18.840 about it, though. What do you feel about chop of cabrachopacabra, dude, jupcabra. 1747 01:32:22.920 --> 01:32:24.800 Blood sucking? Where are you going with this? 1748 01:32:24.920 --> 01:32:28.760 Bro, Bro, I'm just good dude. I mean that could 1749 01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:34.800 go back to some hybrid animal. Also when you look 1750 01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:38.199 at dog Man, I mean there's ancient stories of dog Man, 1751 01:32:38.319 --> 01:32:40.199 right like, Bro, I'm so. 1752 01:32:40.199 --> 01:32:42.279 Glad you brought up dog Man. Jonathan. We need to 1753 01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:43.279 get Scott pasteback on. 1754 01:32:43.800 --> 01:32:46.079 I was just talking to somebody about him the other day, 1755 01:32:46.520 --> 01:32:47.760 sasquatch dog Man. 1756 01:32:48.359 --> 01:32:50.760 We gotta do this, I gotta get somebody on the 1757 01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:51.640 talk about cryptids. 1758 01:32:52.239 --> 01:32:55.920 Oh well, we'll hook you up little with old Scottie, cause, uh, you. 1759 01:32:55.880 --> 01:32:57.359 Know what they say for you. 1760 01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:01.119 They say, typically Scotty doesn't know, but this guy he does. 1761 01:33:01.520 --> 01:33:05.039 And this guy knows all there is to know about 1762 01:33:05.039 --> 01:33:06.359 Bigfoot and dog Man. 1763 01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:09.039 He has little baby Bigfoot to run around in his 1764 01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:10.880 house and shit allegedly. 1765 01:33:11.640 --> 01:33:16.680 He this man, now people, some people will agree with 1766 01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:20.520 him and believe him on some people very much, don't. 1767 01:33:20.640 --> 01:33:23.079 He knows all of it. He's gotten all the hate whatever. 1768 01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:25.560 But you, being a man who looks into the Bible, 1769 01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:28.239 you know what a schofarn is or so far the 1770 01:33:28.359 --> 01:33:32.640 two horn thing? Yes, yes, yes, So he says that 1771 01:33:32.760 --> 01:33:34.399 he went out and I forget what the name of 1772 01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:37.520 the desert was somewhere out west, and if you blow 1773 01:33:37.600 --> 01:33:41.439 on this thing, this is a homing beacon, and it's 1774 01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:46.239 like the sound of war and the Sasquatch and the 1775 01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:51.399 I'm sorry, the tree folk credit no, no, no, not faithfolk, 1776 01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:55.520 the tree people. They live within the trees. These are 1777 01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:58.479 not like wood elves. We're talking sasquatch here, but they 1778 01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:02.720 consider themselves the wood people, and the dog men that 1779 01:34:02.840 --> 01:34:06.479 protect them, all speaking telepathically, will come to your aid. 1780 01:34:06.760 --> 01:34:09.680 There is a group of people out there that believe 1781 01:34:09.800 --> 01:34:10.840 that is what brought. 1782 01:34:10.640 --> 01:34:12.960 Down the walls of Jericho. I don't know, I don't know. 1783 01:34:13.079 --> 01:34:16.000 He's somebody who believes in the invisible Bigfoot, in the 1784 01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:19.039 invisible dog Manfoot. 1785 01:34:19.439 --> 01:34:21.880 Yeah, right well, and the the idea. 1786 01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:23.319 Maybe the Guardians of Hollow Earth. 1787 01:34:24.119 --> 01:34:24.560 Right well. 1788 01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:28.000 The idea is is that within the Bible, what was 1789 01:34:28.039 --> 01:34:30.319 there like forces seen and unseen? 1790 01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:31.279 Right right? 1791 01:34:31.319 --> 01:34:32.960 He brought up a quote where it said I'm the 1792 01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:36.119 God of all things seen and unseen. Now, some people 1793 01:34:36.159 --> 01:34:40.239 would mean the physical realm and the angelic realm, right. 1794 01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:43.640 Some people believe that this and does in fact refer 1795 01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:48.399 to the interdimensional cryptid beings that we may or may 1796 01:34:48.439 --> 01:34:51.279 not have jumping in and out of time. And space, 1797 01:34:51.359 --> 01:34:54.199 and like, I mean, who really knows? But Yo, you 1798 01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:56.319 want a guess to talk about these things, bro, we 1799 01:34:56.399 --> 01:34:57.560 got we got a guy. 1800 01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:01.159 I'm interested in the wood people, Dude, I want to 1801 01:35:01.159 --> 01:35:03.399 know about them? Yea, Well what do y'all know about them? 1802 01:35:03.760 --> 01:35:06.239 You're close enough you could come to the camping trip 1803 01:35:06.279 --> 01:35:06.720 with us. 1804 01:35:07.079 --> 01:35:11.399 I fucking could, dude. Holy shit, hell, think about that, dude. 1805 01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:16.800 Kasatchee National Forest is where this tribe lives. According to 1806 01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:19.399 our boy Scott, he has invited us to go camping 1807 01:35:19.399 --> 01:35:22.680 out there to meet them for ourselves. We haven't had 1808 01:35:22.760 --> 01:35:25.359 time or resources to do it, but one day soon. 1809 01:35:25.800 --> 01:35:27.960 Look, you're right there in Mississippi. Bro, it's just a 1810 01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:31.159 skip and a hop over. You're talking North Louisiana. 1811 01:35:31.399 --> 01:35:34.840 Okay, No, I me, dude, Me and my wife will come. Dude. 1812 01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:37.359 She she's the one that got me into all this stuff, you. 1813 01:35:37.319 --> 01:35:41.680 Know, Bro, get Nick out there tomorrow podcast. 1814 01:35:41.319 --> 01:35:44.000 Too soon too? So uh, y'all y'all have to come 1815 01:35:44.039 --> 01:35:47.359 on sometime, man. I So, do y'all ever go live 1816 01:35:47.479 --> 01:35:49.079 or anything? Uh? 1817 01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:50.279 Tuesday nights? Said? 1818 01:35:50.319 --> 01:35:53.479 Tuesday nights? Okay? Okay, y'all should Uh y'all should come 1819 01:35:53.520 --> 01:35:56.279 on a Friday night, on on on my podcast or something. 1820 01:35:56.600 --> 01:35:58.359 We can go live on Rumble Duo. Have a bunch 1821 01:35:58.359 --> 01:36:03.039 of people. There be fun. Okay, but uh yeah, dude, 1822 01:36:03.640 --> 01:36:05.960 me and my wife had been talking about going to 1823 01:36:06.279 --> 01:36:11.279 uh what's it called Thenvool National Forest. Yeah, dude, like 1824 01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:14.680 forty five minutes an hour south to here. They apparently 1825 01:36:14.720 --> 01:36:21.399 there's Sasquatches. They're also Taylor, Taylor, Mississippi up there. There's 1826 01:36:21.439 --> 01:36:25.920 a dog man up there, and uh, there's apparently if 1827 01:36:25.960 --> 01:36:28.600 you go on YouTube and look, just type in the 1828 01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:32.760 tailor dog man. There's a picture on a video that 1829 01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:35.000 it shows. Dude, you should shut it up. 1830 01:36:35.359 --> 01:36:37.119 What John think it? Don't? 1831 01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:39.319 Let's do this because I got to think about Billy 1832 01:36:39.439 --> 01:36:40.600 Carson pulled up from earlier. 1833 01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:42.119 Oh okay, yeah, I know. 1834 01:36:42.159 --> 01:36:44.119 I want to look up this dog man thing, the Taylor, 1835 01:36:44.159 --> 01:36:46.199 Mississippi dog man video. 1836 01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:47.359 The tailor dog man. 1837 01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:49.600 What is happening? 1838 01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:50.640 Whoa is it? 1839 01:36:50.760 --> 01:36:51.880 This kind of creature? 1840 01:36:51.960 --> 01:36:52.720 This first one? 1841 01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:56.239 Yeah, oh yeah, alleged dog man Taylor, Mississippi. 1842 01:36:57.479 --> 01:37:00.560 Holy shit, that thing's terrifying exactly. 1843 01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:02.600 It looks very very gruesome. 1844 01:37:02.680 --> 01:37:06.000 Dude, Bro, that's the thing that came after our boys, Scott. 1845 01:37:06.279 --> 01:37:08.119 The Sasquats had to call it off because it was 1846 01:37:08.159 --> 01:37:09.239 about to fucking kill him. 1847 01:37:09.199 --> 01:37:14.960 Dude, allegedly. And all right, so while we're on. 1848 01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:17.840 The topic of the Sasquatch and the dog Man, the 1849 01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:18.479 reason why I. 1850 01:37:18.439 --> 01:37:21.239 Asked you is, if you believe that all of these. 1851 01:37:21.159 --> 01:37:27.680 Kind of cryptids are nephelum from their ancestry, whatever. 1852 01:37:29.119 --> 01:37:30.880 Do you believe? When do you think? 1853 01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:34.239 Just I'm trying to get like a timeline here and 1854 01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:37.039 uh and and this could be something that's very well 1855 01:37:37.079 --> 01:37:37.880 known amongst people. 1856 01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:39.119 Maybe I just don't. 1857 01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:45.000 Know, But around when did the fallen angels come down 1858 01:37:45.359 --> 01:37:49.159 and mate with everything? Was that before Adam and Eve 1859 01:37:49.239 --> 01:37:50.239 or after Adam and Eve? 1860 01:37:51.640 --> 01:37:59.039 So in their story it was basically it was in 1861 01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:03.199 the times of it. They were already here. There was 1862 01:38:03.279 --> 01:38:08.199 another faction of them on Mars uh, the led by 1863 01:38:08.359 --> 01:38:12.279 Inky's oldest son, mar Duke, who you could also call 1864 01:38:13.600 --> 01:38:22.880 Bell Mars Marrow dac a Zazel Uh and he was 1865 01:38:23.039 --> 01:38:28.239 leading the like these worker and Anaki. Basically you know, 1866 01:38:28.319 --> 01:38:32.960 the whole the whole thing with the gold mining. Mars 1867 01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:36.920 was away station for for them. Uh. But when you 1868 01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:43.720 look at other esoteric teachings, they talk about uh Samyaza 1869 01:38:44.840 --> 01:38:48.159 or sam I l well. Okay, So I used to 1870 01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:51.359 think that sam Samyaza was the same as Samiel. I 1871 01:38:51.520 --> 01:38:53.479 was told by a viewer of one of the shows 1872 01:38:53.479 --> 01:38:58.199 that I do that Samio was an was the earlier 1873 01:38:58.479 --> 01:39:01.199 class of angels that fell that when I equated him 1874 01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:04.119 with Inky because Inky was the first of the fallen 1875 01:39:04.239 --> 01:39:07.640 to come to Earth. Okay, I take that back. It 1876 01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:15.640 was Aniberian exiled king named a Lailu. You all seen 1877 01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:20.680 the face on Mars, right, No, there's a face on 1878 01:39:20.800 --> 01:39:25.479 Mars and a pyramid on Mars. Okay, from what they've 1879 01:39:25.479 --> 01:39:27.880 shown us right now, we don't know what that's faking. 1880 01:39:27.960 --> 01:39:32.000 Gay sure could be could be some other land on 1881 01:39:32.079 --> 01:39:36.000 Earth that we don't know about, right, Okay. There's a 1882 01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:37.880 lot of ways to look at it. That's why I say, like, 1883 01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:40.800 I don't subscribe like to the Cisions story. When I'm 1884 01:39:40.800 --> 01:39:43.920 doing my Ananaki episodes, I kind of do, but I 1885 01:39:43.960 --> 01:39:46.520 also throw in stuff like this all the time, you know, 1886 01:39:46.680 --> 01:39:52.279 just to kind of question it. Yeah, but apparently that's 1887 01:39:52.319 --> 01:39:57.479 the tomb of Laylu, who like wrestled with Anu for 1888 01:39:57.600 --> 01:40:02.079 Kingship over Earth and uh, he bit on his penis 1889 01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:05.960 off in the wrestling match. Apparently and my co host 1890 01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:09.239 Adrian thinks it's it's metaphoric. I think they were being gay. 1891 01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:12.880 So I don't know what I'm saying. 1892 01:40:13.079 --> 01:40:15.840 It's hard to not say that the religion was sex based. 1893 01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:19.079 Whenever the critical corner stone, they. 1894 01:40:19.039 --> 01:40:21.479 Would do these ancient wrestling matches where they were getting 1895 01:40:21.520 --> 01:40:24.079 naked somehow making gay. 1896 01:40:24.119 --> 01:40:28.319 But this is like what whatever, I don't even know, bro, 1897 01:40:28.439 --> 01:40:28.960 I don't even know. 1898 01:40:29.279 --> 01:40:32.600 Yeh man, No, this is just uh one, you know, 1899 01:40:32.640 --> 01:40:35.000 this is just a translation of a story. It could 1900 01:40:35.039 --> 01:40:43.399 all be wrong, you know. But the h Inky and 1901 01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:47.359 everything he did, he poured his semen, it said into uh. 1902 01:40:47.359 --> 01:40:50.199 So they were already humans on Earth when they got there. 1903 01:40:51.079 --> 01:40:55.680 Right when you look back at Lemuria and Atlantis, it 1904 01:40:55.800 --> 01:41:01.600 lines up with Lemuria being pre Atlantic. Atlantis was an 1905 01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:05.479 Anonachi civilization. I have a theory or I've heard a 1906 01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:08.000 theory and I kind of agree with it that it 1907 01:41:08.039 --> 01:41:12.159 may have been a worldwide civilization and that island was 1908 01:41:12.359 --> 01:41:19.319 just the capital. Now in the story that would be 1909 01:41:19.439 --> 01:41:24.399 pre biblical, right or maybe going on at the same time, 1910 01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:29.159 just not included well because it talks about Foth or 1911 01:41:29.199 --> 01:41:34.640 whatever going to Egypt afterwards after the fall of Atlantis. 1912 01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:37.279 But I mean the Bible has taken from the perspective 1913 01:41:37.359 --> 01:41:40.039 of the Hebrews of the Jews, and like they were 1914 01:41:40.039 --> 01:41:43.039 in Egypt, so like stuff was popping in Europe, stuff 1915 01:41:43.119 --> 01:41:45.399 was popping in what we now call Japan. But like 1916 01:41:45.479 --> 01:41:47.800 the Bible was only talking about that one spot. 1917 01:41:47.840 --> 01:41:49.399 So I mean, who's to say, right. 1918 01:41:49.479 --> 01:41:52.279 Yeah, yeah, dude, And there was probably a lot more 1919 01:41:52.319 --> 01:41:56.039 like in antiquity, probably a lot more land masks too, right, 1920 01:41:56.119 --> 01:41:58.920 because it was all one at one time. And that's 1921 01:41:58.920 --> 01:42:02.159 why I think where we live may have been fit 1922 01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:05.720 right into the fertile crescent right there, talking about. 1923 01:42:05.479 --> 01:42:07.640 The more landlord. Yeah, Florida. 1924 01:42:07.840 --> 01:42:12.840 Where did that go? Right to qub theories that Florida 1925 01:42:12.880 --> 01:42:13.720 is the Garden of Eden. 1926 01:42:15.439 --> 01:42:17.880 I've heard people say that the Mississippi River is the 1927 01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:21.800 Nile of this hemisphere. I've heard that before as well, 1928 01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:25.159 which makes where I live literally the Nile river delta 1929 01:42:25.640 --> 01:42:27.359 of this hemisphere, which is dope. 1930 01:42:27.840 --> 01:42:29.439 But uh, I wanted to ask. 1931 01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:32.319 You, hold on shit, sorry, bro, I I go from one. 1932 01:42:33.439 --> 01:42:37.760 No, no, I know, but it was it was on this topic. Yeah, 1933 01:42:37.840 --> 01:42:39.239 what were we talking about before that? 1934 01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:42.640 The mating with the women? 1935 01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:49.640 Well oh all right, well look the reason why I asked. 1936 01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:51.560 When I asked, I wasn't sure that you were going 1937 01:42:51.640 --> 01:42:54.840 to go down in the uh sitchen kind of understanding, 1938 01:42:54.880 --> 01:42:59.920 but just from a biblical understanding, like according to like, 1939 01:43:00.119 --> 01:43:03.720 let's just lay out a timeline, the fallen ones came 1940 01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:08.880 down both, So the fallen ones came down before Adam 1941 01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:10.960 and Eve and after Adam and Yes. 1942 01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:14.960 Yes there were classes of them that came down, and 1943 01:43:15.039 --> 01:43:18.600 it was the sons of the original ones that were there. 1944 01:43:19.319 --> 01:43:23.920 That's where you get the Watcher Angels. Now, they, like 1945 01:43:23.960 --> 01:43:26.680 I told y'all earlier, they do refer to the Creator 1946 01:43:26.760 --> 01:43:28.920 as the Creator of All, and they know he's pissed, 1947 01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:32.760 right Like, they're like, yeah, the Creator of All is 1948 01:43:32.760 --> 01:43:34.479 not going to be happy. They don't give him a name, 1949 01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:37.720 they don't refer to him by a name. That's why, 1950 01:43:37.880 --> 01:43:42.039 Like I don't know that they used to be like 1951 01:43:42.159 --> 01:43:45.760 regents of Heaven, right, Like they had some place in 1952 01:43:45.880 --> 01:43:50.720 a higher and in a hierarchy somewhere where they carried 1953 01:43:50.760 --> 01:43:55.159 out acts and deeds for the Creator of All, and 1954 01:43:55.199 --> 01:43:58.520 they went against them. And they know this, they know 1955 01:43:58.640 --> 01:44:06.359 that they fall right right the first recorded like, so 1956 01:44:06.760 --> 01:44:10.279 all the second class of the Watcher Angels came down 1957 01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:15.960 from Marduke's wedding to an earth woman, and this made 1958 01:44:16.039 --> 01:44:20.039 Marduke like the satan of the Ananaki. Like they all 1959 01:44:20.119 --> 01:44:23.279 hated him for doing this, not knowing that Inky was 1960 01:44:23.319 --> 01:44:28.600 already doing this with earthwomen before. And so like that's 1961 01:44:28.640 --> 01:44:31.760 where you get them as the adversaries and stuff. It's 1962 01:44:31.800 --> 01:44:34.960 it's just uh. And then when you look in the Bible, 1963 01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:38.960 you see Marduke is Bell, his son, Nabu is Nebo. 1964 01:44:40.439 --> 01:44:45.880 There's little little etymology right there. So yeah, there's different 1965 01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:48.720 falls that take place. Now, I mean, I don't know 1966 01:44:48.920 --> 01:44:53.479 if y'all subscribe to the idea that it's a lot 1967 01:44:53.520 --> 01:44:58.039 older than four or six thousand years because. 1968 01:44:57.880 --> 01:45:02.960 I do so, right, I believe that the Earth is 1969 01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:06.119 definitely older than ten thousand years old, like for sure. 1970 01:45:06.880 --> 01:45:10.119 Now I'm not saying four point six billion either, Like 1971 01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:14.159 I think that's in an unfathomable. 1972 01:45:13.439 --> 01:45:15.920 Number of time for the human mind to wrap it down. 1973 01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:18.840 But like which they did just find out they did 1974 01:45:18.880 --> 01:45:20.199 just find out that it's double that. 1975 01:45:20.319 --> 01:45:24.800 Actually, oh really, of course they did because carbon or something. 1976 01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:27.920 I don't know. But look, so you're talking about more 1977 01:45:28.039 --> 01:45:29.039 land from back in the day. 1978 01:45:29.079 --> 01:45:32.039 Now, have you heard of dogger Land. I've heard of it, 1979 01:45:32.119 --> 01:45:33.399 I haven't looked into it. 1980 01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:36.840 Bro the lost land to the north of Europe. It 1981 01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:40.359 was a massive plot of like really fertile land. They've 1982 01:45:40.399 --> 01:45:43.000 started dredging it. In all this it's under a peat box. 1983 01:45:43.039 --> 01:45:46.560 So pretty much the entire civilization's like been preserved. But 1984 01:45:47.159 --> 01:45:51.560 basically the glacial melting from about twelve thousand years ago 1985 01:45:51.640 --> 01:45:55.119 mixed with a giant tidal wave that came, which they 1986 01:45:55.159 --> 01:45:59.720 know there was a giant glacial shift that happened off 1987 01:45:59.760 --> 01:46:02.079 the Sweden that sent like a massive tidal wave, and 1988 01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:04.800 they can like track the timeframe of this, but come 1989 01:46:04.800 --> 01:46:07.720 to find out there was an entire civilization lost to 1990 01:46:07.800 --> 01:46:10.520 the north of Europe. And then we know now because 1991 01:46:10.520 --> 01:46:15.119 of like population records of like whenever the Greeks or 1992 01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:17.720 the Romans or whatever got to the northern European area, 1993 01:46:18.239 --> 01:46:21.880 why was it so densely populated Whenever like there wasn't 1994 01:46:21.880 --> 01:46:23.880 good farmland there, Why was. 1995 01:46:23.920 --> 01:46:25.279 Or how was there this many people? 1996 01:46:25.279 --> 01:46:27.880 It's like, oh, because they all migrated there only one 1997 01:46:27.960 --> 01:46:30.439 hundred years ago. From more Land to the north that's 1998 01:46:30.439 --> 01:46:33.560 now under underwater, but it's only like forty feet underwater. 1999 01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:35.720 No one has known this this entire time. 2000 01:46:35.800 --> 01:46:38.279 No one thought to, look, how much more of that 2001 01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:41.399 shit do we have around the world, lands that connect 2002 01:46:41.520 --> 01:46:41.960 things like that? 2003 01:46:42.039 --> 01:46:42.720 One hundred percent? 2004 01:46:42.800 --> 01:46:46.119 Bro, Yeah, dude, And I mean there's what set seventy 2005 01:46:46.119 --> 01:46:51.520 percent water and we've only explored fifteen percent of it. Right, 2006 01:46:52.760 --> 01:46:56.239 it's under there. There may be civilizations. That's what I 2007 01:46:56.279 --> 01:46:58.920 think about inside the Earth. I think, yeah, you have 2008 01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:03.399 your magma in your lot on some some levels, but 2009 01:47:03.479 --> 01:47:07.880 I think there's parts that open up that are continent size. 2010 01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:10.079 Sure, so you. 2011 01:47:10.119 --> 01:47:14.840 Believe in hollow earth and lava and magma and all that. 2012 01:47:16.239 --> 01:47:20.720 I believe that it may be like an outer like 2013 01:47:20.760 --> 01:47:24.359 an outer layer that. Uh, But I I don't believe 2014 01:47:24.399 --> 01:47:30.319 the whole inside of the Earth is just lava and magma. Okay, Okay, yeah, dude. 2015 01:47:30.359 --> 01:47:32.359 I have my own theories about a lot of things. 2016 01:47:32.359 --> 01:47:33.439 And they may also. 2017 01:47:33.319 --> 01:47:36.079 Said flat earth and hollow earth too, correct. 2018 01:47:36.760 --> 01:47:39.640 Yeah, I have, dude, I have theories about that too. 2019 01:47:39.760 --> 01:47:43.279 I don't know. I don't subscribe to any one thing. Really. 2020 01:47:43.399 --> 01:47:46.800 I am more of a hollow earth guy. Okay, like 2021 01:47:46.960 --> 01:47:50.680 gun to my head, hollow earth. But I I have 2022 01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:53.000 some of my viewers who are flat earth or so 2023 01:47:53.119 --> 01:47:56.000 I kind of like to throw some ideas in there 2024 01:47:56.039 --> 01:47:58.119 to think about. You know, some people. 2025 01:47:57.840 --> 01:48:02.159 Actually say that what Admiral Dick Bird, as we like 2026 01:48:02.239 --> 01:48:05.039 to call him, what he actually saw or what he 2027 01:48:05.079 --> 01:48:07.800 walked into whenever he claimed that he was walking into 2028 01:48:07.960 --> 01:48:10.800 the hollow earth, some people say that he was actually 2029 01:48:10.960 --> 01:48:13.880 maybe walk through a portal or through another dimension, and 2030 01:48:14.039 --> 01:48:17.079 that's why it seemed like that, And that's why it 2031 01:48:17.119 --> 01:48:20.079 seemed like it would be kind of hollow on the inside. 2032 01:48:20.119 --> 01:48:23.760 Because who was talking about portals and dimensions back in 2033 01:48:23.800 --> 01:48:25.159 that day, right, right? 2034 01:48:26.920 --> 01:48:30.920 He was just a fly over through a thing into 2035 01:48:30.960 --> 01:48:34.439 another biome like in Minecraft. How would he know that 2036 01:48:34.479 --> 01:48:37.199 he just passed through a portal? Like Sci Fi wasn't 2037 01:48:37.479 --> 01:48:40.439 that deep back then. They didn't have Hollywood movies to 2038 01:48:40.439 --> 01:48:41.279 where he would know what a. 2039 01:48:41.319 --> 01:48:43.119 Quote unquote portal would look like. 2040 01:48:43.359 --> 01:48:47.279 Also, also check this out. So and there are plenty. 2041 01:48:46.960 --> 01:48:49.880 Of people out there that believe that the pyramids were 2042 01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:52.680 actually some kind of portals, right Like, there are some 2043 01:48:52.720 --> 01:48:55.640 people that think that, well, look no further whenever you're 2044 01:48:55.680 --> 01:48:59.279 looking for fucking pyramids than Antarctica itself. 2045 01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:00.399 There are more. 2046 01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:05.520 There are more pyramids in Antarctica collectively than the rest 2047 01:49:05.560 --> 01:49:09.640 of the world combined. So is it possible that he 2048 01:49:09.720 --> 01:49:15.279 walks near a kind of uh pyramidic structure in Antarctica 2049 01:49:15.600 --> 01:49:19.399 as he was walking past, you know, the the frozen 2050 01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:22.720 tundra of Antarctica and going across the other side and 2051 01:49:22.720 --> 01:49:27.600 finding lush, green vegetation, maybe he stumbled across. 2052 01:49:27.359 --> 01:49:30.640 An area that was kind of. 2053 01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:34.319 Being inhibited almost almost think about like a pyramid as 2054 01:49:34.399 --> 01:49:37.800 like maybe it has like some kind of energetic fucking 2055 01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:41.479 something that goes around and creates like this dome like. 2056 01:49:41.439 --> 01:49:45.359 Structure, like the triangle exactly like that. And so is 2057 01:49:45.399 --> 01:49:47.199 it possible that that could just be like. 2058 01:49:47.199 --> 01:49:51.199 The beginning point of whatever kind of energetic wormhole that 2059 01:49:51.239 --> 01:49:54.079 you're trying to get to. I don't know, anything's up 2060 01:49:54.079 --> 01:49:59.079 for debate right now, and I mean, in anything, including Antarctica, 2061 01:49:59.159 --> 01:50:02.680 is always going to be sketchy. Like I feel very 2062 01:50:03.199 --> 01:50:05.000 I don't know what I think about Antarctica. 2063 01:50:05.079 --> 01:50:06.359 I believe Admiral. 2064 01:50:06.079 --> 01:50:09.039 Bird, although some people would say you shouldn't believe Admiral 2065 01:50:09.079 --> 01:50:11.640 Bird because he was a thirty third degree freemason. 2066 01:50:12.760 --> 01:50:15.880 And his diary was only released by his son after 2067 01:50:15.920 --> 01:50:16.439 his death. 2068 01:50:16.479 --> 01:50:20.000 Look, there's controversy, fine, fair, Fair. 2069 01:50:20.319 --> 01:50:23.399 I still want somebody to explain to me the giant 2070 01:50:23.439 --> 01:50:27.000 crystal pyramid that's forty or it was like forty foot 2071 01:50:27.079 --> 01:50:29.880 under river silt at the mouth of the Mississippi River. 2072 01:50:30.199 --> 01:50:33.079 Can someone explain why we have a giant, massive crystal 2073 01:50:33.119 --> 01:50:35.159 pyramid right there that nobody just. 2074 01:50:35.279 --> 01:50:40.119 Has known about until recently. Wait what, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 2075 01:50:40.119 --> 01:50:45.479 There's a massive, massive crystal pyramid underneath the mud at 2076 01:50:45.479 --> 01:50:49.000 the base of the Mississippi River. It's just been covered 2077 01:50:49.079 --> 01:50:51.399 up with river silt and we can't get to it 2078 01:50:51.560 --> 01:50:55.840 because it's under a massive moving river and fucking river silt. 2079 01:50:56.199 --> 01:50:59.279 And nobody's coming up with explanations. Nobody's got answers. 2080 01:51:00.039 --> 01:51:03.560 Well, shit, when was this they found it? What was 2081 01:51:03.560 --> 01:51:06.239 it with like uh discovery now called lyd ar? 2082 01:51:06.359 --> 01:51:08.359 What's it when they fly over and do a scan 2083 01:51:08.479 --> 01:51:11.680 of the uh of the things? I forget it was 2084 01:51:11.680 --> 01:51:14.039 a couple of years ago when they did it, Okay, 2085 01:51:15.319 --> 01:51:17.239 And I do mean like within the last five Like 2086 01:51:17.319 --> 01:51:17.880 it wasn't. 2087 01:51:17.720 --> 01:51:19.039 Like this is like old knowledge. 2088 01:51:19.680 --> 01:51:20.680 I gotta look into that. 2089 01:51:21.199 --> 01:51:22.399 Oh it's wild shit, man. 2090 01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:24.520 And whenever I heard that, and I that was around 2091 01:51:24.600 --> 01:51:26.600 the time when I heard this whole Mississippi River. 2092 01:51:26.520 --> 01:51:28.520 Being the denile of this hemisphere. 2093 01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:31.439 I was like, bro, I thought the Amazon River was 2094 01:51:31.479 --> 01:51:33.359 gonna be I'm gonna be honest, if I had to 2095 01:51:33.359 --> 01:51:37.359 pick a river, I would have thought that one. But like, no, 2096 01:51:37.560 --> 01:51:39.880 we're on this side of the equator, so it's kind 2097 01:51:39.880 --> 01:51:43.159 of that if we're looking at the plane right the 2098 01:51:43.319 --> 01:51:46.920 X and Y axis, if you will, now river here, 2099 01:51:47.000 --> 01:51:49.800 Mississippi right here, it's like close but opposite of the 2100 01:51:49.840 --> 01:51:52.880 equator to each other, and it's like, okay, kind of 2101 01:51:52.920 --> 01:51:54.039 see where you going with this? 2102 01:51:54.680 --> 01:51:58.439 Yeah, yeah, you're right, that's something to think about as well. 2103 01:51:58.479 --> 01:52:01.640 I didn't even think about that south starting that shit. 2104 01:52:01.960 --> 01:52:04.920 Yeah, I couldn't find it unless you're talking about the 2105 01:52:05.439 --> 01:52:06.760 Memphis Pyramid. 2106 01:52:07.359 --> 01:52:12.119 Well no, not bass pro dude, Yeah, which is fucking dope. 2107 01:52:12.119 --> 01:52:14.880 Which is right off the Mississippi as well. Right. 2108 01:52:14.960 --> 01:52:16.880 I passed by there once upon a time. 2109 01:52:16.960 --> 01:52:19.279 I wanted to stop, but I couldn't because I was 2110 01:52:19.279 --> 01:52:20.079 on a time crunch. 2111 01:52:20.119 --> 01:52:23.840 But dude, that thing is huge. Dude, I think there's 2112 01:52:23.840 --> 01:52:27.920 something to that pyramid being in Memphis, right, the capital 2113 01:52:28.079 --> 01:52:33.079 of Egypt and that the capital, and that's Cairo. Memphis 2114 01:52:33.239 --> 01:52:34.239 is one of the biggest cities. 2115 01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:37.560 I'm pretty sure, and one of their deities. 2116 01:52:38.199 --> 01:52:41.279 Yes, And so when you think about that in terms 2117 01:52:41.279 --> 01:52:44.720 of Okay, so there's tons of rappers from Memphis. I'm 2118 01:52:44.720 --> 01:52:46.960 a big fan of Memphis rap, like from the nineties, 2119 01:52:47.920 --> 01:52:51.000 a bunch of underground rap, and well used to be 2120 01:52:51.039 --> 01:52:52.920 a big fan. It's a little dark for me now. 2121 01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:59.680 But yeah, dude, I mean, we know how much sacrifice happens. 2122 01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:07.159 Ritual sacrifice happens in these industries, especially the music industry, 2123 01:53:07.199 --> 01:53:12.560 probably more than any the music industry, sure, And so 2124 01:53:12.720 --> 01:53:16.560 I don't know, man, I'm doing a Patreon episode on 2125 01:53:16.720 --> 01:53:20.319 on this actually, just kind of talking about some of 2126 01:53:20.359 --> 01:53:22.640 the rappers that have died and their relations to other 2127 01:53:22.720 --> 01:53:27.279 rappers who got big, or like maybe looking at their 2128 01:53:27.399 --> 01:53:30.960 lyrics because there's a lot of these rappers that talk 2129 01:53:31.039 --> 01:53:34.680 about sacrifice and maybe they're just being edgy, you know, 2130 01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:38.199 and uh, but I don't know, maybe there's something else 2131 01:53:38.279 --> 01:53:41.119 to it. Maybe that's I don't know, I think there's 2132 01:53:41.159 --> 01:53:45.680 something to the South, maybe like what we were saying, 2133 01:53:45.720 --> 01:53:47.840 being part of the Fertile Crescent. Maybe that's why there's 2134 01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:50.119 so much paranormal activity here. 2135 01:53:50.920 --> 01:53:54.520 Oh shall live, Yeah, no doubt, dude. 2136 01:53:54.760 --> 01:53:58.840 New Orleans is big with Santoria, Voodoo, whodoo, all that shit. Yeah, man, 2137 01:53:59.640 --> 01:54:02.239 speaking of all these things. So I found this and 2138 01:54:02.279 --> 01:54:04.039 I didn't play the whole thing. I'm not one hundred 2139 01:54:04.039 --> 01:54:07.479 percent of this is what I think it is. But God, 2140 01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:10.880 let's see how the TikTok world goes. The Mississippi River 2141 01:54:10.960 --> 01:54:12.000 and the Nile are the same. 2142 01:54:12.560 --> 01:54:17.000 Let's see discovered the ruins of an ancient civilization off 2143 01:54:17.039 --> 01:54:18.600 the coast of Saint Bernard Parish. 2144 01:54:18.640 --> 01:54:21.640 He claims there are large mounds underwater there may have 2145 01:54:21.640 --> 01:54:23.600 once been the site of a lost city thousands of 2146 01:54:23.720 --> 01:54:24.079 years ago. 2147 01:54:24.079 --> 01:54:27.479 Paula Murphy reports local fishermen have long talked about strange 2148 01:54:27.520 --> 01:54:30.159 and unexplained things happening in that area. 2149 01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:43.039 The Chandeler Islands are a chain of uninhabited barrier islands 2150 01:54:43.079 --> 01:54:46.439 located in the Gulf of Mexico, fifty miles east of 2151 01:54:46.520 --> 01:54:50.159 New Orleans. But twelve thousand years ago, before a dramatic 2152 01:54:50.239 --> 01:54:53.119 sea level rise at the end of the Last Ice Age, 2153 01:54:53.279 --> 01:54:55.640 this area may have been dry land. 2154 01:54:55.640 --> 01:54:57.279 Three different search areas. 2155 01:54:57.960 --> 01:55:02.439 Retired architect and amateur archaeologist George Jla believes the site 2156 01:55:02.720 --> 01:55:07.119 now underwater was once home to an ancient civilization. He 2157 01:55:07.239 --> 01:55:09.600 dubbed the city crescentis. 2158 01:55:09.319 --> 01:55:12.399 What's down there is hundreds of buildings that are covered 2159 01:55:12.439 --> 01:55:16.000 with sand and silk and that are geographically related to 2160 01:55:16.119 --> 01:55:19.199 the Great Pyramid of Giza. 2161 01:55:19.359 --> 01:55:22.680 Giza is a city in northern Egypt where ancient pyramids 2162 01:55:22.680 --> 01:55:25.800 and the Sphinx are located. Jlay claims, so it found 2163 01:55:25.880 --> 01:55:30.520 mysterious mounds of granted under chandle or sound. Granted is 2164 01:55:30.560 --> 01:55:33.399 not native to Louisiana or Mississippi. 2165 01:55:33.720 --> 01:55:39.159 Somebody floated a billion stones down the Mississippi River and 2166 01:55:39.199 --> 01:55:43.319 then assemble them outside of what would will later become 2167 01:55:43.399 --> 01:55:45.079 New Orleans. 2168 01:55:46.960 --> 01:55:49.920 I mean, look, dude, I'm not saying, but I'm just saying. 2169 01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:52.880 You know what I mean, that's why the witchcraft is 2170 01:55:52.920 --> 01:55:54.079 so strong in New Orleans. 2171 01:55:54.159 --> 01:55:57.880 Brother, Oh it goes deep. Okay, I don't know if 2172 01:55:57.920 --> 01:55:59.199 you'll want to play the Billy Carson thing. 2173 01:55:59.239 --> 01:56:00.720 Wait ahead, ud play it. 2174 01:56:01.159 --> 01:56:04.399 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck it. I was wrong on 2175 01:56:04.439 --> 01:56:05.960 this though. He wasn't like banging on the door. 2176 01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:09.119 He did come with like, uh like basically some sort 2177 01:56:09.159 --> 01:56:11.760 of like want to be legal paperwork, like a seasoned desist. 2178 01:56:12.159 --> 01:56:14.279 But uh yeah, all right, we'll just play it for 2179 01:56:14.279 --> 01:56:17.039 a little quick minute anyway, So this guy speaking on 2180 01:56:17.079 --> 01:56:20.039 this side is his former assistant who just quit like 2181 01:56:20.079 --> 01:56:20.800 two months. 2182 01:56:20.600 --> 01:56:23.000 AGO's former assistant. 2183 01:56:22.880 --> 01:56:24.399 Billy Carson's former assistant. 2184 01:56:24.439 --> 01:56:26.920 Yeah, these dudes, that's a show that I uh, it's 2185 01:56:26.920 --> 01:56:30.560 called Bless God's Studios. I like the dudes, but they 2186 01:56:30.640 --> 01:56:33.359 are responding to this, and they also have the ring 2187 01:56:33.479 --> 01:56:34.720 camera footage at this point. 2188 01:56:34.800 --> 01:56:37.479 So yeah, it's only like two minutes that we need 2189 01:56:37.520 --> 01:56:37.800 to play. 2190 01:56:37.840 --> 01:56:42.239 Really historian in linguist, the fraudument document, the documents you 2191 01:56:42.399 --> 01:56:43.680 like to claim is truthful. 2192 01:56:44.800 --> 01:56:47.479 Nothing reacts to the debate with west Hoff later on 2193 01:56:47.520 --> 01:56:49.560 in video. You guys go watch Anton's video. 2194 01:56:50.520 --> 01:56:51.880 This is two hours and ten minutes. 2195 01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:55.840 Yeah, and Will cab Malone has reacted to it. What's 2196 01:56:55.880 --> 01:56:57.560 his name? John Clashes reacted to maybe I'll do a 2197 01:56:57.560 --> 01:56:59.600 whole separate stream on that. 2198 01:57:00.159 --> 01:57:01.640 And you didn't like that you got exposed. 2199 01:57:01.880 --> 01:57:05.319 And because you got exposed for knowing nothing about Christianity, 2200 01:57:05.760 --> 01:57:08.600 you freaked out. You freaked out so much that you 2201 01:57:08.600 --> 01:57:11.239 were knocking at my client's door at two thirty am 2202 01:57:11.359 --> 01:57:11.840 in the morning. 2203 01:57:12.159 --> 01:57:13.439 Now, I got to handle that situation. 2204 01:57:15.159 --> 01:57:18.680 There he goes with legal papers, acting like you have 2205 01:57:18.760 --> 01:57:21.399 the power to enforce some type of you got served 2206 01:57:21.680 --> 01:57:22.239 you guys. 2207 01:57:22.399 --> 01:57:23.800 This is the type of person Billy is. 2208 01:57:24.079 --> 01:57:26.079 Like he does have a brain injury, so maybe there 2209 01:57:26.159 --> 01:57:28.319 is something like literally wrong with him. I don't know, 2210 01:57:28.720 --> 01:57:32.560 but this is like crazy behavior. My client has kids, 2211 01:57:32.840 --> 01:57:35.159 he has a family. You got this guy walking up 2212 01:57:35.159 --> 01:57:38.199 at his house at two thirty in the morning because 2213 01:57:38.239 --> 01:57:40.680 of the debate that he posted. 2214 01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:43.680 That's crazy. You know what that also means? And Anton 2215 01:57:43.720 --> 01:57:44.159 said it. 2216 01:57:44.159 --> 01:57:46.000 It means he never went to bed or he got 2217 01:57:46.079 --> 01:57:48.319 up at like one thirty to like get ready for 2218 01:57:48.359 --> 01:57:48.800 the day. 2219 01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:51.039 That's crazy that. 2220 01:57:51.159 --> 01:57:52.720 By the way, it wasn't even that bad. 2221 01:57:52.920 --> 01:57:54.880 I mean it was bad because Billy doesn't know what 2222 01:57:54.880 --> 01:57:57.279 he's talking about, But there wasn't like arguments, and Wesley 2223 01:57:57.359 --> 01:57:59.239 was very kind and he could have pushed way harder 2224 01:57:59.279 --> 01:57:59.880 and he didn't. 2225 01:58:00.079 --> 01:58:03.000 So Billy, bro was it diabolical? Or is what you're 2226 01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:03.880 doing diabolical? 2227 01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:05.439 But at the same time, my mind went right into 2228 01:58:05.479 --> 01:58:07.479 solutions mode. What's the solution to this problem? And how 2229 01:58:07.520 --> 01:58:08.600 can I do it? How can I take care of 2230 01:58:08.640 --> 01:58:09.159 the situation. 2231 01:58:09.319 --> 01:58:11.039 The solution is to pretend you're a lawyer and knock 2232 01:58:11.039 --> 01:58:13.039 out my client's doore at two thirty in the morning. 2233 01:58:13.199 --> 01:58:17.000 Billy Carson caught on a ring doorbell where the ring 2234 01:58:17.079 --> 01:58:20.880 doorbell said front door cam two twenty nine fifty four. 2235 01:58:21.039 --> 01:58:23.399 You guys go watch Anton's full video while it's still up. 2236 01:58:23.439 --> 01:58:25.000 You guys filled in a blank? Those are you guys? 2237 01:58:25.039 --> 01:58:27.000 I wanted to know what was being bleeped out. I 2238 01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:28.439 couldn't say publicly. 2239 01:58:28.760 --> 01:58:31.800 Bro, it's it's not looking good for him. 2240 01:58:31.840 --> 01:58:33.720 And to be fair, if you watch the debate with 2241 01:58:33.760 --> 01:58:37.119 Billy and that guy, they are correct. Like your boy 2242 01:58:37.119 --> 01:58:39.720 that debated him was being very nice. He wasn't like, 2243 01:58:40.239 --> 01:58:42.920 actually you might not at all. He was like, well 2244 01:58:43.359 --> 01:58:45.119 this is what I have found and this and this 2245 01:58:45.159 --> 01:58:49.159 and this evidence. Yeah, he was very very nice. Like 2246 01:58:49.199 --> 01:58:52.039 he sounds like a genuinely good dude. You know, he 2247 01:58:52.159 --> 01:58:54.159 could have been like Professor Dave. 2248 01:58:54.439 --> 01:58:57.079 And just shit on him and just been a dick. 2249 01:58:57.239 --> 01:58:59.600 But like, that wasn't him. And I think that that 2250 01:58:59.760 --> 01:59:01.199 was good too, you know what I mean. 2251 01:59:01.239 --> 01:59:04.880 But yeah, yeah, that was just a that's a that's 2252 01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:05.760 a thing that's happening. 2253 01:59:05.880 --> 01:59:07.239 It's a wild time. 2254 01:59:07.479 --> 01:59:10.119 To be in this line of work, bro, billiam I 2255 01:59:10.239 --> 01:59:12.720 just want to put it out there from uh, from 2256 01:59:12.800 --> 01:59:14.800 one of your follow followers, My. 2257 01:59:14.760 --> 01:59:18.159 Good sir, if you would like to resurrect your image, 2258 01:59:18.520 --> 01:59:21.039 please come check out the Cult of Conspiracy. We'd love 2259 01:59:21.079 --> 01:59:22.800 to have you on a guest as a guest. 2260 01:59:22.600 --> 01:59:24.520 I would love to have you on as a guest, 2261 01:59:24.600 --> 01:59:27.880 and not to be a dick, not to shit on you, 2262 01:59:27.960 --> 01:59:30.640 genuinely would like to talk to you. And you know what, 2263 01:59:30.760 --> 01:59:33.800 let's stay off of Christianity because you talk about so 2264 01:59:34.119 --> 01:59:38.439 many things, Billy, we don't need to do just biblical. 2265 01:59:38.520 --> 01:59:41.760 Just keep all Bible out your mouth and let's talk 2266 01:59:41.800 --> 01:59:42.960 about everything else. 2267 01:59:43.000 --> 01:59:49.199 Brother, I would love to have you on. I hope that. 2268 01:59:49.039 --> 01:59:52.760 That reach reaches all the radio waves of the interwebs 2269 01:59:52.920 --> 01:59:55.920 and rate back into Billy Carson's. 2270 01:59:56.920 --> 01:59:57.359 DMS. 2271 01:59:57.840 --> 02:00:01.159 So anyway, look, I I think that this was a 2272 02:00:01.159 --> 02:00:03.159 lot of fun. Jewelels, thank you so much for coming 2273 02:00:03.199 --> 02:00:05.119 and hanging out with us. We'll definitely have to do 2274 02:00:05.159 --> 02:00:05.560 it again. 2275 02:00:06.239 --> 02:00:07.720 And if you. 2276 02:00:07.880 --> 02:00:10.520 Would please let all the good cult members out there 2277 02:00:10.640 --> 02:00:13.319 know where they can find you. 2278 02:00:13.359 --> 02:00:17.479 Guys. Yeah, dude, this was fun man, Thank y'all for 2279 02:00:17.520 --> 02:00:25.039 having me. I am on Rumble mostly Rumble dot com, 2280 02:00:25.039 --> 02:00:30.159 slash Gray Pill podcast. I'm on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcast. 2281 02:00:31.199 --> 02:00:31.960 I have a. 2282 02:00:31.920 --> 02:00:36.960 Patreon with a couple tears on there. Patreon, dot Com, Slash, 2283 02:00:37.000 --> 02:00:41.439 Great Pill Podcast, All Great Pill Podcasts, Instagram, Great Pulled, 2284 02:00:41.520 --> 02:00:45.439 Underscore podcast, and I'm on Twitter at Gray Pilled pod 2285 02:00:46.479 --> 02:00:51.079 so you can catch me. There's ship posting and talking 2286 02:00:51.119 --> 02:00:54.159 about crazy shit as well. Yeah, man, this this was 2287 02:00:54.199 --> 02:00:58.800 really fun guys. Thank y'all. Yeah, I have a lot 2288 02:00:58.800 --> 02:01:01.359 of things that I talk about, so for y'all to 2289 02:01:01.399 --> 02:01:05.359 be able to keep out with me, man, we definitely 2290 02:01:05.439 --> 02:01:06.760 have to do this again sometime. 2291 02:01:07.600 --> 02:01:08.399 Absolutely, bro. 2292 02:01:08.640 --> 02:01:11.359 Well, look, we're gonna have all of your links everything 2293 02:01:11.479 --> 02:01:14.520 down there in the show notes and on top of 2294 02:01:14.800 --> 02:01:18.439 his links to be able to find all of Jules's information, 2295 02:01:18.600 --> 02:01:21.159 his podcasts, is social media's and all that kind of stuff. 2296 02:01:21.399 --> 02:01:23.359 If you would like to find out where you'd be 2297 02:01:23.399 --> 02:01:26.560 able to listen to this show and watch this show 2298 02:01:27.520 --> 02:01:31.880 with completely commercial free time. 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