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Speaker 2: All right, five o'clock hour here on a game day,
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Speaker 2: Talk seven ninety. I say game day because it's really
Speaker 2: game night Louisville and Cal tonight tipping off at nine
Speaker 2: o'clock on the ACC Network. Just two more games left
Speaker 2: and then after tonight it's just Saturday. So I'm on
Speaker 2: the fence about making my way to the center tonight.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'll just be real with you.
Speaker 2: What's got me on the fence is, you know what
Speaker 2: has a lot of people probably thinking, you know, should
Speaker 2: I go? It's late, it's cold, it'll be a late
Speaker 2: night when I get home. And typically that would just
Speaker 2: be okay, I'll watch it from home.
Speaker 3: That's me.
Speaker 2: But but you know, my son, he loves this team,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, he would love to go to
Speaker 2: the game, but it's also nine o'clock tip, like he
Speaker 2: wouldn't be getting home till like about midnight. Does that
Speaker 2: make me a bad parent? I mean, I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody would would would blame me for wanting to make
Speaker 2: some memories with my moose.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's in a little father's son night, little late,
Speaker 2: little late night. Who knows, maybe we hit taco Bell
Speaker 2: on the way home. You know, have a just do it,
Speaker 2: do what dudes do.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I'm gonna have to make a
Speaker 3: decision here soon if I'm going on where.
Speaker 2: Or the other.
Speaker 3: But don't let me keep you from going.
Speaker 2: If you're you know you're thinking about it because you know,
Speaker 2: if you if you've got tickets or you know somebody
Speaker 2: that could, they could hook you up with tickets. Again,
Speaker 2: you only had two more chances, so hopefully there's a
Speaker 2: good turnout. But either way, no matter what the announced
Speaker 2: attendance is tonight, I feel like, no matter what the
Speaker 2: announced attendance has been in any of the games this year,
Speaker 2: those that have been showing up, man, this team has
Speaker 2: given them a lot to root for in that place.
Speaker 2: The atmosphere itself has been has been awesome. I talked
Speaker 2: about this a little bit earlier in the show. When
Speaker 2: you are watching a game on television, it's the it's
Speaker 2: the broadcaster's job to really sell the environment, right. They're
Speaker 2: setting the scene and they're letting you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a good look for them if they're talking about
Speaker 2: how great of an atmosphere it is and how rowdy
Speaker 2: it is. That's really part of the job. So they're
Speaker 2: gonna do that regardless. Certainlyast try to. But I feel
Speaker 2: like this year, even though we haven't seen you know, sellouts,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it has come across really well
Speaker 2: on television that you know, when this team's on a
Speaker 2: run and they're playing well, playing hard, those that are there,
Speaker 2: I mean really everybody in the lower Bowl it is.
Speaker 2: It's a vibe, and that's that's what you want. It
Speaker 2: still doesn't seem real that like a year ago. In
Speaker 2: a way, I think because of how quickly Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: started winning around here in Louisville, basketball is once again,
Speaker 2: you know, getting closer to where they belong, certainly in
Speaker 2: the tournament. I mean, I think with Kelsey, I think
Speaker 2: the ceiling is still really high. Like maybe if he's
Speaker 2: here a long time and things can continue to go well,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe every year you're looking at the tournament
Speaker 2: and you know, a top five seed, I mean, that's
Speaker 2: that's that's getting greedy. Who knows if that's what will happen.
Speaker 2: But you know, clearly at times I don't even I
Speaker 2: don't I don't even look back on the previous few
Speaker 2: seasons and like remember that it happened, Which is good, right,
Speaker 2: block it out of my mind. It's a very troubling
Speaker 2: time in my life as a Louisville fan. But you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's also made it seem like a year ago.
Speaker 2: Whenever we were on the show talking about different candidates,
Speaker 2: talking about the timeline as far as will they do
Speaker 2: it as soon as the game ends, will it take
Speaker 2: a week, like you know, all that stuff that we
Speaker 2: were doing a year ago, that seems like that was
Speaker 2: so long ago. And I'm sure there are a variety
Speaker 2: of reasons as to why it seems that way, but
Speaker 2: one of them, I know is because here we are
Speaker 2: winning again, and it's just it's been such a nice distract.
Speaker 2: I mean, I kind of just have been getting lost
Speaker 2: in the season. It wasn't until recently that I started
Speaker 2: to kind of like no longer be able to live
Speaker 2: in the moment quite as much, because it's pretty we
Speaker 2: only got a couple of regular season games left, so
Speaker 2: tonight they are fourteen and a half point favorites, against
Speaker 2: this Cal team, and the kin Pom projected score would
Speaker 2: be a sixteen point win for Louisville. And we were
Speaker 2: talking earlier about Cal as far as you know, just
Speaker 2: being to me one of the more like when I
Speaker 2: think of Power six college basketball programs, irrelevant, kind of random,
Speaker 2: certainly not successful, like if they just disappeared, you would
Speaker 2: take a long time to notice. Cal is in that
Speaker 2: category for sure for me. But then we had other
Speaker 2: people mentioned the Nebraska TCU, who's the other way, Northwestern,
Speaker 2: and look those schools are also I mean, we also
Speaker 2: determined that Nebraska basketball has never won an nce DOUAA
Speaker 2: tournament game, which is something I did not know. But
Speaker 2: to me, Cal is more obscure because they're just so
Speaker 2: far away and like you know that they don't care
Speaker 2: about basketball where they are.
Speaker 3: And in fact, we.
Speaker 2: Were talking earlier about the one time Louisville played because
Speaker 2: when I think of CAL basketball, think of that tournament loss.
Speaker 2: And I didn't realize it, but Austin, did you know
Speaker 2: that's the only time these two teams have ever played
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 3: Was in that tournament. Yeah, that tournament game, the ra
Speaker 3: Kkeem Buckles game, Rackeen Buckles legacy game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about how that game where I
Speaker 2: was talking about how like when I think of that game,
Speaker 2: I think of Raheem. But yeah, Louisville lost that one
Speaker 2: of the tournaments, so we need to get revenge tonight.
Speaker 2: We got to even it up at one apiece because
Speaker 2: they're gonna be you know, here they are entering life
Speaker 2: in the ACC, cal is and they've got a winning
Speaker 2: record against us. That can't that won't be the case
Speaker 2: after tonight, at least, I hope not. All Right, One
Speaker 2: thing that I did not realize, just because I don't
Speaker 2: think it's gonna happen and I'm not expecting it, but
Speaker 2: technically Louisville could still be the you know, could be
Speaker 2: the one seed in the ACC tournament. Again, I'm not
Speaker 2: predicting that this happens, however, with let's see, let me
Speaker 2: make sure make sure I've got this correct. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: Louisville could get the one seed if these three things happen.
Speaker 2: And these things are not crazy, are they?
Speaker 3: Maybe they are? I don't know.
Speaker 2: First of all, Ovan needs to beat cal and Stanford.
Speaker 2: That's not that's not crazy. That's what you should do.
Speaker 2: Be kind of crazy if you don't both at home,
Speaker 2: both bad teams, so that that's one thing Oliver just
Speaker 2: needs to win out. And then Clemson needs to beat
Speaker 2: Boston College and Virginia Tech. They certainly should do that,
Speaker 2: right I mean, in fact, do that game already take place.
Speaker 2: I feel like they already played them. Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: Now I got to look it up.
Speaker 2: Anyways, Boston College in Virginia Tech is who Clemson would
Speaker 2: need to beat, and then the only other thing you
Speaker 2: would need, which I feel like this is the to me,
Speaker 2: this is what.
Speaker 3: Is most unlikely.
Speaker 2: But also I guess it's not technically crazy, but you
Speaker 2: need North Carolina to beat Duke this weekend. So Duke's
Speaker 2: playing insanely good right now. I mean they're beating the
Speaker 2: hell out of teams. I mean really, NC State played
Speaker 2: them within ten at the end of January, and then
Speaker 2: from February on they.
Speaker 3: Did lose to Clemson.
Speaker 2: Of course, that was one of their three losses and
Speaker 2: the only loss they have an acc play. And other
Speaker 2: than that, I mean, they've beat everybody by a lot.
Speaker 2: In fact, they won ninety three to sixty on Monday
Speaker 2: against Wake Forest. So this one is in Chapel Hill.
Speaker 2: Carolina is looking like a team that might still be
Speaker 2: able to get in because you know, they've won six
Speaker 2: in a row. Although it's not against anybody we're talking about,
Speaker 2: they have played better and they are at home.
Speaker 3: So again, I don't think that happens. But I feel like.
Speaker 2: The other things that would need to happen for Louisville
Speaker 2: to get the one seed, those are like the expectation,
Speaker 2: like it not happening would be the shock, and that's
Speaker 2: Louisville winning out and also Clemson winning out.
Speaker 3: That's what should happen. If not, that would be a surprise.
Speaker 2: So it really just comes down to really and again,
Speaker 2: you know, I guess expect the unexpected, right it's March.
Speaker 2: But if Carolina beats Duke on Saturday, I have a
Speaker 2: feeling then that will just simply be louis being the
Speaker 2: one seed. And I don't know how the tie breaker
Speaker 2: would break, but that's that's the way it's laid out
Speaker 2: here within the ACC. So Louisville of course has the
Speaker 2: tiebreaker over and what you'd have is literally you'd have
Speaker 2: a three way ACC champion in the regular season, Clemson, Duke,
Speaker 2: and Louisville would all be able to claim a share
Speaker 2: of the ACC regular season title, but somehow Louislle would
Speaker 2: get the tie breaker to get.
Speaker 3: The one seed.
Speaker 2: They do have the win head to head against Clemson,
Speaker 2: and Clemson has it against Duke, so therefore I guess
Speaker 2: that's the kicker. But again, Louisville played Duke and lost,
Speaker 2: so I don't know. Anyways, a one seed would uh,
Speaker 2: And in fact, to be honest with you, you.
Speaker 3: Kind of want the two seed, don't you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking at what the bracket would look
Speaker 2: like today if if if the favorites went out going
Speaker 2: off the kin Palm formula, louisll would be the two seed,
Speaker 2: and if they get past they'll play Stanford or which
Speaker 2: is kind of weird because if they this would be awkward,
Speaker 2: right if so, Virginia Tech and Cal are the ten
Speaker 2: to fifteen game ten seed fifteen seed game. So if
Speaker 2: let's say Virginia Tech beats Cal and then Cal I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech beats Cal, then Virginia Tech loses to Stanford,
Speaker 2: Louisville would then play Stanford two straight games, right, because
Speaker 2: it'd be the regular season finale and then the first
Speaker 2: game in the ACC Tournament. So the reason I say
Speaker 2: you might want the two is because I think you
Speaker 2: want that opportunity to play Clemson, right, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: Let's say like Notre Dame gets in as the eleven
Speaker 2: seed in the ACC Tournament and they end up making
Speaker 2: it all the way to the Semis, and that's how
Speaker 2: you play. Yeah, that would make your path to the
Speaker 2: championship game better. But let's be real, with the ACC
Speaker 2: being what it is, giving you no opportunities for quad
Speaker 2: ones past you know, mid January.
Speaker 3: I mean I think you one is.
Speaker 2: You're not desperate for it, right, Like it's not a
Speaker 2: make or break, In fact, it's already a win you
Speaker 2: have and getting like if you're best, this win is
Speaker 2: Clemson twice.
Speaker 3: I don't you know.
Speaker 2: I guess it's better to have it twice than just once,
Speaker 2: but like, you know, I would rather at least have
Speaker 2: that than an easier game, because I think at this point,
Speaker 2: like you want to be able to do everything you can.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just crazy to think that
Speaker 2: Louisville will only have potentially two games in the ACC Tournament.
Speaker 2: I mean again, because they get the double buy, they
Speaker 2: only need to win three to win the whole thing.
Speaker 2: But like only two chances to play teams that are
Speaker 2: even going to the Big Dance when you get to
Speaker 2: the AEC Tournament. A gat A part of that it
Speaker 2: is because you got the double bye, but the other
Speaker 2: part of it is that you know, like the league stinks.
Speaker 3: It just does. All right, let's see real quick.
Speaker 2: On the Kentucky side of things, Mark Pope said something
Speaker 2: I think it was after the game on Saturday against Auburn,
Speaker 2: and I guess last night. I don't know if he
Speaker 2: was asked about it again in the press conference or what,
Speaker 2: but he has pushed or at least advocated. It's not
Speaker 2: like he's out there, you know, leading some kind of
Speaker 2: charge for but he's He's talked about college basketball expanding
Speaker 2: to a forty game regular season, which for me, hell yeah, more.
Speaker 3: Games, more fun. I mean, give me you, you're gonna
Speaker 3: you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Give me more college basketball, I dare you, because I'll
Speaker 2: love every second of it. But he talked about stretching
Speaker 2: the skill, stretching the schedule.
Speaker 3: The forty games. Uh and and again I don't really
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: Just telling me there's more college basketball that I could watch,
Speaker 2: I'm all in on. But as far as him telling
Speaker 2: telling you why.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Here's is from his This is from his press conference quote.
Speaker 2: I just think it's time to expand our season out
Speaker 2: to a forty game season, like it should be a
Speaker 2: forty game season, especially with all the change, with all
Speaker 2: the change and the turnover and the lack of continuity
Speaker 2: of teams, and also with revenue sharing and everything else,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense that we're at thirty one
Speaker 2: games regular season. It makes no sense. And I'm so
Speaker 2: and so I'm a massive advocate, maybe the only one
Speaker 2: in the world, but we need to expand the season
Speaker 2: to forty games. Even for the guys that go on
Speaker 2: to be a pros it gives them a better it
Speaker 2: gives them a better sense. So when it comes to
Speaker 2: you know, why he wants to do it, I mean
Speaker 2: he didn't really advocate specifically.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess.
Speaker 2: Maybe more games to get continuity to you know, more time,
Speaker 2: you know, forty instances before you get to postseason play
Speaker 2: to where you can kind of, you know, figure out
Speaker 2: your team. I guess that's that's in that quote. That's
Speaker 2: the big sell for him there. So I'd love to
Speaker 2: see it. In fact, I mean, give me fifty games
Speaker 2: if you want I mean, I don't think that'll ever happen.
Speaker 2: But Louisville playing twenty ACC games, I mean, I wonder
Speaker 2: do other do other power leagues play that many? Because
Speaker 2: it was eighteen for a long time. In fact, I
Speaker 2: think it might have been sixteen games for a long time.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was, I don't know either way. When it
Speaker 2: comes to the ACC, whenever they created the ACC Network,
Speaker 2: I think it was pretty early within like the first
Speaker 2: couple of years of the ACC Network, they realized they
Speaker 2: needed more inventory and they wanted to put more games there,
Speaker 2: so they just added it to where now you play, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you play twenty games in the in in conference play,
Speaker 2: which look, I'd rather play two or four more ACC
Speaker 2: teams than play, you know, the Belloment's of the world,
Speaker 2: no offense development. It's just those games to me are
Speaker 2: honestly a huge waste of time. They don't benefit anybody
Speaker 2: other than the paycheck that the team gets to come
Speaker 2: in and play. And I guess you could to open
Speaker 2: your doors, but like soon that won't be a thing, right,
Speaker 2: Like it'll be such a known thing that opening your
Speaker 2: doors for an opponent like you know, Lehigh or Merrimack
Speaker 2: or whatever, like it when people don't have season tickets
Speaker 2: as much as they used to, because I still think
Speaker 2: those are season tickets always going to be a thing.
Speaker 2: But what I'm getting at is those games won't be
Speaker 2: looked at as like, wow, here's a big payday for us,
Speaker 2: we're opening up the um Center because lovel of basketball
Speaker 2: plays you're only going to see. I think it even
Speaker 2: it get worse as far as people not really wanting
Speaker 2: to go to those kind of games. It's clearly better
Speaker 2: if you're good. But like again we'll get that, We've
Speaker 2: had that conversation before. But so ACC plays twenty games,
Speaker 2: and the looks like eighteen is the SEC Big twelve
Speaker 2: they play, Yeah, they play twenty in the Big twelve,
Speaker 2: and in the Big.
Speaker 3: Ten they play they also play twenty.
Speaker 2: So the SEC is the only league that doesn't play
Speaker 2: twenty out of the power.
Speaker 3: Actually, let's see what the Big East does. The Big
Speaker 3: East will.
Speaker 2: Play they play twenty as well. So I don't know
Speaker 2: why the SEC does that, just like don't know why
Speaker 2: they won't go to non games in the SEC football schedule,
Speaker 2: which again the ACC doesn't, and I wish they would
Speaker 2: because again, eliminating those games against those kind of teams.
Speaker 2: I mean, just as a selfish fan when I think
Speaker 2: about the product that I enjoyed that is college football
Speaker 2: in college basketball, like, I don't want those games. I'd
Speaker 2: rather have games where I can see my team play
Speaker 2: somebody that you know I've heard of if they're not great.
Speaker 2: All right, real quick, before we get to our next break.
Speaker 2: The big Dog Vince Marrow. Have you heard this, Austin.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, the big Dog. Jeff Brom's gonna try to
Speaker 3: get him to come and be the recruiter. He's dropping
Speaker 3: the bag for the big Dog, dropping the uup tax.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's not Louisville. But he apparently has interviewed
Speaker 2: for the Bowling Green Head coaching job. So I don't
Speaker 2: think he'll get it, and I don't even think he
Speaker 2: would take it if they offered it.
Speaker 3: I really don't, because he take a pay cut. Like
Speaker 3: he was just wants to be wanted.
Speaker 2: Clearly, he seems to be like the most insecure guy
Speaker 2: ever at wanting people to like appreciate him and think
Speaker 2: he's great, and like he doesn't have any awareness that
Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff that like gets floated out there,
Speaker 2: like I didn't even have to look at this link
Speaker 2: from KSR. I did, but I knew that it was
Speaker 2: Football Scoop that reported that Vince Marrow interviewed for the job,
Speaker 2: because Vince Marrow feeds everything to the guys in Football Scoop.
Speaker 2: They're the ones who you know, are the first. They're
Speaker 2: the only people that have ever put out Vince Marrow
Speaker 2: being tied to anything or having any conversation the others.
Speaker 2: It's just been like, you know, people who Vince Marrow
Speaker 2: knows personally and tells them to put stuff out there
Speaker 2: even if it's not true. And I don't blame those people. Look,
Speaker 2: if I had somebody coming to me that was a
Speaker 2: coach and telling me this, I mean, I would feel
Speaker 2: stupid not to at least run with it, but I
Speaker 2: would also like try to let people know, Like I
Speaker 2: don't know if I believe this, but this is what
Speaker 2: I was told. Because like you know, Vince Marrow makes
Speaker 2: over a million dollars. He would not make that at
Speaker 2: Bowling Green. I don't think, and I feel like he
Speaker 2: I mean, why would he want to go coach at
Speaker 2: Bowling Green. He's got the easiest job in the world.
Speaker 2: He just recruits and makes a lot of money and
Speaker 2: everybody blames everything on Mark Stoopson, not him. I mean, like,
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying they should blame it on Vince Marrow.
Speaker 2: It's just you know, like when you're in a assistant
Speaker 2: you're not the guy everybody's thinking about after a loss.
Speaker 2: So you got the best of both worlds. You don't
Speaker 2: get any of the heat when things don't go well.
Speaker 2: You recruit and you make a lot of money. But
Speaker 2: apparently Meroo, along with Mercer head coach Mike Jacobs and
Speaker 2: Minnesota co DC Nick Monroe, they have a reportedly interviewed
Speaker 2: for that job because Scott Leffler left after six seasons
Speaker 2: just last week to go be the quarterbacks coach with
Speaker 2: the Eagles in the NFL. Because that I mean, look,
Speaker 2: that's just that's just that that's a very very tough
Speaker 2: gig to excel at, meaning you know, low level G
Speaker 2: five college football coach, because you don't have the resources
Speaker 2: to pay players like others, and any player that you
Speaker 2: have is good, that is good is going to hit
Speaker 2: the Portland leave. This is at least like the third
Speaker 2: or fourth time that a job like this has lost
Speaker 2: a coach just because they're like, yeah.
Speaker 3: What am I doing?
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 3: I can't. There's no way, there's there's no scenario to
Speaker 3: succeed here. All right, quick break, We'll come back on
Speaker 3: the other side. Keep it rolling along.
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Speaker 2: A gloomy, cold, windy Maybe it's rain and it was
Speaker 2: doing something.
Speaker 3: Earlier.
Speaker 2: We did get some rain, but then when I was
Speaker 2: on my way in it was it was something a
Speaker 2: little the substance was a little different than rain. Maybe
Speaker 2: they call that sleet. So yeah, it's gross outside. I'm
Speaker 2: ready for the warm weather. It cannot get here soon enough.
Speaker 2: In fact, I was just thinking, like last week, my
Speaker 2: mom and my stepdad, they were in Cabo, Mexico. In fact,
Speaker 2: my mother maybe driving home from work right now. I'm sorry, Mom,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you miss the beautiful Cabo. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: heavenly compared to what this is outside. And also we
Speaker 2: did get lucky when it comes to the cold weather.
Speaker 2: We got earlier because I think I have been doctor
Speaker 2: macleury who joined us last week and said it.
Speaker 3: But he was spot on Austin.
Speaker 2: When it's gonna be cold outside, at least give us
Speaker 2: sun like I feel like a lot of our cold
Speaker 2: days we actually got some sunlight, which you know, the
Speaker 2: cold weather still stinks for a lot of people, but
Speaker 2: if it's sunny at least, you know, that's better than
Speaker 2: cold and dark and you know, nasty outside.
Speaker 4: So had perspective. Yes, he was absolutely right when we
Speaker 4: were going through it. I remember it was like I
Speaker 4: think when it first started January, it was just snow
Speaker 4: for three straight weeks and I looked out and I'm saying,
Speaker 4: what the hell, dude, it's sunny and nothing has melted.
Speaker 3: Whatso over sunny in nine degrees it was just it
Speaker 3: was brutal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was cold enough to her when you walk outside,
Speaker 2: like your body my body would just hurt, like I
Speaker 2: would just ache because it's so cold. And now it's
Speaker 2: not that cold, although it did get in the mid
Speaker 2: thirties earlier, and it's probably right there right about now,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, and that's not terrible. But
Speaker 2: we had some warm weather that showed up, teased us
Speaker 2: and then left. And I mean that at mother Nature.
Speaker 2: She's been a real she's been a real tricky one
Speaker 2: this year. That's that's for sure, all right. So if
Speaker 2: you wanted something to be worried about when it comes
Speaker 2: to the Cow Golden Bears tonight, I've got a stat
Speaker 2: that is impressive, maybe the only impressive thing about this
Speaker 2: Cow team statistically. You ready for it, Austin, they lead
Speaker 2: the acc and free throws made per game. Don't put
Speaker 2: them at the line, Oh boy, don't put them at
Speaker 2: the strip. In fact, i'm looking at your hands off.
Speaker 2: I'm looking here at yeah, cuffs out. But let's not
Speaker 2: get excessive, right, no excessive force with the cuffs tonight, Chucky.
Speaker 2: I'll always think of all that's a memory we have,
Speaker 2: my man will When I think of Chucky, hepburn being
Speaker 2: a great defender, which he is. I'm thinking of going
Speaker 2: to the game with Austin whenever they were playing North
Speaker 2: Carolina and he was doing his thing defensively, and Austin
Speaker 2: looked at me and said, Chuck, he's got the cuffs out,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, the cuffs.
Speaker 3: The cuffs were out.
Speaker 2: He was locking everybody up, locking everybody up, cuffing them up,
Speaker 2: all right. So Louisville, they are number one in one
Speaker 2: statistic category here in the ACC three point attempted per game,
Speaker 2: not a big shock. They also are number two and
Speaker 2: three pointers made per game. I'm wondering who's making more.
Speaker 2: I'm curious now, not that it really matters, but is
Speaker 2: it like who's a because there's not many good teams
Speaker 2: in the ACC, So therefore, like who would be a
Speaker 2: really good three point shooting team? I bet it's Clemson.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna bet that they don't shoot a ton,
Speaker 2: but they shoot a good clip. That's gonna be my guess,
Speaker 2: all right. So let's see here three pointers as far
Speaker 2: as uh yeah, three pointers made, it's Duke. So Duke
Speaker 2: makes ten point four to threes. Louisville makes nine point eight,
Speaker 2: so pretty close. Clemson is number three and then Virginia
Speaker 2: right after that. So anyways, back to these I just
Speaker 2: have never looked at these statistical comparisons that you get
Speaker 2: in the Louisville game notes until I mean, I've looked
Speaker 2: at him before, but just to see this late in
Speaker 2: the year, when you've played you know, every game but
Speaker 2: two to kind of see where you stand among not
Speaker 2: only you know the ACC, but you can also see
Speaker 2: where they stand, you know, nationally, like Louisville when it
Speaker 2: comes to their national ranking the most outside their number
Speaker 2: their number fourteen nationally and three pointers per game and
Speaker 2: they're thirty three as far as three pointers make per game.
Speaker 2: So as far as actually, no, I mean this, this,
Speaker 2: I mean this isn't I mean again insert joke about
Speaker 2: the ACC sucking right here. But Louisville's winning percentage is
Speaker 2: eighteenth nationally and their their margin of victory, of course
Speaker 2: is let's see, Duke has the biggest margin. I think,
Speaker 2: now I gotta there we go, Yeah, scoring margin. So
Speaker 2: Louisville is third in the ACC. I guess maybe Clemson
Speaker 2: is second, but they're twenty ninth in the country in
Speaker 2: scoring margin. And that's something I should remind myself of
Speaker 2: every now and then, because for as much as I
Speaker 2: feel like in the last four games, they just kind
Speaker 2: of have looked war and down and I'm a little
Speaker 2: worried about them running out of gas before you get
Speaker 2: to the tournament, it hasn't been a worry enough to
Speaker 2: where like they're losing games because of it.
Speaker 3: But it's just been something you know, I've observed.
Speaker 2: But with all that said, for the most part, they're
Speaker 2: not just winning in the ACC They're kicking everybody's ass.
Speaker 2: And even if they don't cover spreads, the spreads are
Speaker 2: usually really, really big because Louisville has beat so many
Speaker 2: teams by a big margin this year that that's what
Speaker 2: the line gets set at. Speaking of that, currently Louisville
Speaker 2: is still at fourteen and a half some decent good games,
Speaker 2: some decent games to that. I haven't really looked at
Speaker 2: the full board here, but we've got Round two of
Speaker 2: Florida Alabama that should be a really good game, Maryland
Speaker 2: mission Maryland and Michigan.
Speaker 3: That's a good Big ten matchup.
Speaker 2: Let's see, I just saw a noo yeah, Missouri and
Speaker 2: Oklahoma that Oklahoma could punt, could you know, could maybe
Speaker 2: solidify their standing in the tournament if they win that
Speaker 2: game tonight. But then and look, Oklahoma doing well would
Speaker 2: be good for But I'm also just gonna be real here, like,
Speaker 2: if Oklahoma makes the tournament, that would give Louisville another
Speaker 2: team and there aren't many that they have beat that
Speaker 2: is going to make the dance. But since January, Oklahoma
Speaker 2: is four and twelve, Like, how can you even be
Speaker 2: considered for the tournament? And again it's because the bubble
Speaker 2: is really weak and the ACC is just that good.
Speaker 3: But like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Anyways, I'll move on because you know, I just I
Speaker 2: don't understand how you can continue to lose and not
Speaker 2: like if you get it to me, it's such an
Speaker 2: obvious thing. I don't know anything about how the formula
Speaker 2: was created. I wouldn't know how to fix it. But
Speaker 2: you don't need to understand formulas or analytics to just
Speaker 2: know that if you follow the net ranking and even
Speaker 2: the Ken POMP for that matter, there's a major flaw,
Speaker 2: and that is this winning a game and losing a
Speaker 2: game is not factored enough in said formula. Because every
Speaker 2: year you see teams that didn't win, but yet they
Speaker 2: play in a really good league and they played a
Speaker 2: lot of the teams competitively, so they'll be sitting like
Speaker 2: below five hundred, well below five hundred in their league,
Speaker 2: sometimes even nearly below five hundred overall, and they'll have
Speaker 2: a net ranking that would make you think they're a
Speaker 2: tournament team. Like there's a clearfulall fix it, fix it,
Speaker 2: damn it all right, so earlier we were talking about
Speaker 2: how random and just.
Speaker 3: Like forgettable col basketball is.
Speaker 2: And I had a buddy, Mitchell who texted me and says,
Speaker 2: you should go through the ACC, you and Austin and
Speaker 2: just say the first player that comes to mind when
Speaker 2: you think of when you think of certain teams, I
Speaker 2: think that's, you know, because there's gonna be something. There's
Speaker 2: gonna be somewhere I don't have a player, but then
Speaker 2: there's gonna be others where like I don't really know
Speaker 2: like where to start, Like we'll start with Duke.
Speaker 3: Like when you think of Duke basketball, who do you
Speaker 3: think of? Probably Christian Layton or Foreshre or Grant Hill.
Speaker 2: So when I think of Duke basketball over all, I think,
Speaker 2: so there's two ways to answer this. When I think
Speaker 2: of like Louisville and Duke or Louisville and whoever, you
Speaker 2: know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean, like, because that's I think.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: When I think of Duke basketball overall, I think of
Speaker 2: Jay Williams because he was the first really really really
Speaker 2: good Duke player that I watched, And I like knew
Speaker 2: that everybody hated Duke and it was cool to hate Duke,
Speaker 2: but man, that guy was a bad, bad man friend
Speaker 2: of the show too, right, right, Yeah, So I think
Speaker 2: of him. But when I think of Louisville and Duke,
Speaker 2: I think of Zion just because I remember like watching
Speaker 2: him in person against Louisville at the UM Center and thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: I get it now. This guy is insanely different when
Speaker 2: it comes to his athleticism.
Speaker 4: There was that photo of him ripping the ball from
Speaker 4: Jordan Wara and he literally like fressuring the ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the thumb made it look as if he
Speaker 2: like you would have thought the ball was a millisecond
Speaker 2: away from exploding.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I forgot about that picture and.
Speaker 2: The two things that really stood out as far as
Speaker 2: seeing him, because I mean I got I got to
Speaker 2: watch him pretty close. I was sitting like behind the goal,
Speaker 2: and you know, he's nearly he's near the rim a lot.
Speaker 2: And I remember one he's he's not like super short,
Speaker 2: but in person, like he has kind of a slouch,
Speaker 2: so he's actually he seems shorter than he actually is,
Speaker 2: but he's also not even that tall.
Speaker 3: But also the whole fat thing.
Speaker 2: And I know he's probably picked up wait since Duke,
Speaker 2: but he never looked fat in person.
Speaker 3: He looked like a he looked like a linebacker. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's what he looked like.
Speaker 2: But also what I remember watching, and I remember thinking
Speaker 2: to myself, this guy's probably gonna be a legendary player
Speaker 2: in the NBA, which right now doesn't look at that.
Speaker 2: But with all that said, when he's healthy, he's good.
Speaker 2: He's just not healthy, and you know he's with New Orleans.
Speaker 2: But anyways, with him, one thing that I remember like
Speaker 2: saying to myself, I've never seen anything like this and
Speaker 2: I probably never will again. And that's what makes this
Speaker 2: guy special was that he had the quickest and best
Speaker 2: footwork I've ever seen from anybody, any any position, any size.
Speaker 2: So here's a guy that is built like a like
Speaker 2: a tahoe, right, like a like a like a Cadillac Escalade.
Speaker 2: And he can also jump out of the gym with explosiveness.
Speaker 2: But when you think of explosiveness, it's not just can
Speaker 2: you jump, it's how quick you can move to do it.
Speaker 2: And he like his first step. It's unfair for anybody
Speaker 2: because to me, it felt like you couldn't guard him
Speaker 2: without foiling him. You're not gonna call it every time,
Speaker 2: but like he's so quick and physical that you can't
Speaker 2: guard him without fouling him. I mean again, they don't
Speaker 2: call it every time. But anyways, that's whoy I think
Speaker 2: of when it comes to the Louisville side.
Speaker 3: What about Clemson? This is where I go with your thought.
Speaker 4: I just think of where they were at with Louisville
Speaker 4: and the name that I always remembered, Jerum Blossom game, remember.
Speaker 2: Yes, just because of the random name, right yeah. And
Speaker 2: then I've already forgotten this guy's name. But they had
Speaker 2: a big white guy last year that that was there forever,
Speaker 2: it seemed, and they finally broke through. And again that's
Speaker 2: how forgettable you know Clemson basketball is because I've already
Speaker 2: forgot his name. He's gonna drive me crazy.
Speaker 3: PJ. Hall. Yeah, because I felt like he was there forever.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's go SMU. Do you have anybody?
Speaker 4: Oh no, because I didn't factor.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for me, I think of a guy who
Speaker 2: didn't even actually play there now that I think about it.
Speaker 3: Emmanuel Moodier.
Speaker 2: He committed to Larry Brown at SMU, and I remember
Speaker 2: that being a big deal, and then he never ended.
Speaker 3: Up there because he couldn't qualify. It was supposed to
Speaker 3: be the next thing. What about Virginia. Oh this uh again,
Speaker 3: Malcolm Brogden, I'm going Kyle Guy true yeah in Louisville.
Speaker 3: Tie yeah, Kyle Guy or.
Speaker 2: Ty Jerome is who I think of when I think
Speaker 2: of Virginia. Those two guys and they played together. So
Speaker 2: maybe that's it was a.
Speaker 3: Little point guard that they had was there for like forever,
Speaker 3: it seems.
Speaker 4: Oh man, yes, I forget his name. Oh it's gonna
Speaker 4: like little Samoan guy if I can remember.
Speaker 2: No, I think, oh no, no, there's two different guys
Speaker 2: that they've had that that I forgot about. No, No,
Speaker 2: Ty Jerome, Gosh, Key Clark Clark. Yeah, but there was
Speaker 2: a guy. But there was a guy before both of
Speaker 2: them that that I'm I'm kind of blanking on. But
Speaker 2: he was he had like a little mini fro. I
Speaker 2: think he was mixed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's gonna drive me crazy now I
Speaker 2: gotta look it up because he was like he was there,
Speaker 2: He was there before.
Speaker 3: He was like before TD Jerome and those guys.
Speaker 2: Oh London Parentice remember that name Prentiss? Yes, my god,
Speaker 2: So what about let's go to Virginia Tech?
Speaker 3: Another another one just because it relates, But remember Carrie
Speaker 3: Blackshair junior. Yep, that's exactly who I was thinking of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because he was he if you remember, he
Speaker 2: was the guy who it was. It was not a
Speaker 2: common thing for a guy like that to be able
Speaker 2: to transfer and play right away because he was a
Speaker 2: grad transfer. But it was it was because of an
Speaker 2: unusual circumstance, right, like when you used to be able
Speaker 2: to go basically free agency was limited back in the day,
Speaker 2: right louisvill could go get Trey Lewis and Damien Lee
Speaker 2: because those guys just had an extra year really by loophole.
Speaker 3: Now it's a completely different world.
Speaker 2: But carry Blacksheer left Virginia Tech and it was a big,
Speaker 2: big deal and sure enough he went to Florida and
Speaker 2: it was fine, but he did not carry over a
Speaker 2: lot of you know what what you know, it's right,
Speaker 2: But now I remember there's also a guy on Virginia
Speaker 2: Tech that played for Buzz Williams that I'm forgetting that
Speaker 2: that that was pretty good for a little while.
Speaker 3: Uh, Let's who else do we have here? Let's go
Speaker 3: uh notre Dame uh our guy Louke harong Gody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think of yeah, Herongody is the one
Speaker 2: that comes to mind for me, for both Louisville and
Speaker 2: just for overall.
Speaker 3: But another name was Bonsi Golson? Remember him? Oh yeah, Bonza?
Speaker 3: All right? What about uh? What about Carolina? Of course MJ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, It'll always be MJ. But when it comes to ACC,
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 3: I think of gosh, who was it that Marcus Page?
Speaker 3: Remember him?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Of course?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think hit that buzzer beat or not the buzzy
Speaker 4: the off centered three pointer before the lost villain up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then Louisville ended up losing to this team, this
Speaker 2: team in the tournament, in the ACC tournament, I think
Speaker 2: it was in gosh, it might have been twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: their first year there. They lost to them in the tournament.
Speaker 2: And that team, gosh, that team had what was his name?
Speaker 2: A guy who ended up going to the NBA. Briefly,
Speaker 2: what is his name? Gonna drive me crazy? They have
Speaker 2: a lot of guys to go to the NBA.
Speaker 3: So maybe I'm not. Maybe I'm not.
Speaker 2: Oh, Bryce Johnson, I remember Bryce Johnson? What about what
Speaker 2: about Boston College?
Speaker 3: Anybody?
Speaker 4: I have nobody? Jared Dudley okay, but he doesn't have
Speaker 4: any Louisville talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I only think of him because he was on
Speaker 2: the broadcast when we played them earlier this year, they put.
Speaker 3: Yeah with Pitt Who do you Who do you go with? Uh?
Speaker 3: This is Big East days. I think of a few.
Speaker 4: I think Sam Young, Levance Fields, Ashton Gibbs.
Speaker 2: Dewan Blair, Babykwan Blair, Big Blair a man, he was
Speaker 2: a monster man.
Speaker 3: Uh. Do you have anybody for Georgia Tech?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris Bosh or Jack So I think I think
Speaker 4: of Jared Jacksono when I forgot about him, I think
Speaker 4: of I think of Bosh overall.
Speaker 2: But when I think of Louisville, I mean I think
Speaker 2: it's probably Alvarado, their point guard, who you know for
Speaker 2: Josh Chasner did have some success, and then Michael de
Speaker 2: Vaux played there for seemingly ever. I kind of think
Speaker 2: of him to it, And then I got nobody for
Speaker 2: Stanford nothing.
Speaker 4: I guess you can go the Lopez twins, but they're not.
Speaker 4: They weren't acc or Louisville.
Speaker 3: At that point, Syracuse has gotta be Carmelo, right, It's
Speaker 3: it's Carmelo and Brandon Trish Remo.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So I go Carmelo, and then for Louisville,
Speaker 2: I go Michael Carter Williams, just because I remember him
Speaker 2: being a really tall, good point guard.
Speaker 3: But Man, Russ and Payton made his life. Hell dude,
Speaker 3: yes they do.
Speaker 2: And then we already talked about cal What about NC
Speaker 2: State who probably probably Dennis Smith? Yeah that because he
Speaker 2: was such a big time recruit for them. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: gotta be honest. I'll probably also think about the big
Speaker 2: fellow last year.
Speaker 3: Was his name DJ? Yeah? DJ Burns, just because I mean,
Speaker 3: how could you not Florida State? Uh, Dwayne Bacon, Jonathan Isaac.
Speaker 2: Yep, I go with uh, who's the guy who ended
Speaker 2: up going to the first round Scottie Barnes, just because
Speaker 2: I remember he was a lottery pick with Miami.
Speaker 3: Who do you have Shane Larkin? Yeah? I remember him,
Speaker 3: was a bad dude.
Speaker 4: He had He had a great Uh he had a
Speaker 4: great tournament run in the year that Louisville won the championship.
Speaker 2: Yep, I go to this was a guy who played
Speaker 2: for them when they weren't great. But remember Chris likes
Speaker 2: the little five to seven point guard. I think of
Speaker 2: him Chris like blast. For those just tuning in, We're
Speaker 2: just thinking of the first player that comes to mind
Speaker 2: with ACC teams, all right, last one, wake Forest?
Speaker 3: Uh once again?
Speaker 4: This team uh like Jeff Tige, Alfa uk Amino and
Speaker 4: probably CP three too.
Speaker 3: Mine will always be Chris. These are my two.
Speaker 2: CP three obviously, and then Derek for Louisville. I mean
Speaker 2: it's I mean, actually this isn't even t but not
Speaker 2: for Louisville because he Louisvill didn't play him at that time. Honestly,
Speaker 2: you know who I think of it. I think of
Speaker 2: wake Forest, not a player. I think of Dino Gaudio.
Speaker 3: Oh, I've already forgotten about him.
Speaker 2: All right, we got to run quick break, very quick break.
Speaker 2: Will come back and tell you buy it really quickly