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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now, here's nick coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, five o'clock hour here on a game day,

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<v Speaker 2>it iss coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety. I say game day because it's really

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<v Speaker 2>game night Louisville and Cal tonight tipping off at nine

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock on the ACC Network. Just two more games left

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<v Speaker 2>and then after tonight it's just Saturday. So I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>the fence about making my way to the center tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I'll just be real with you.

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<v Speaker 2>What's got me on the fence is, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of people probably thinking, you know, should

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<v Speaker 2>I go? It's late, it's cold, it'll be a late

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<v Speaker 2>night when I get home. And typically that would just

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<v Speaker 2>be okay, I'll watch it from home.

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<v Speaker 3>That's me.

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<v Speaker 2>But but you know, my son, he loves this team,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, he would love to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the game, but it's also nine o'clock tip, like he

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be getting home till like about midnight. Does that

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<v Speaker 2>make me a bad parent? I mean, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>anybody would would would blame me for wanting to make

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<v Speaker 2>some memories with my moose.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's in a little father's son night, little late,

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<v Speaker 2>little late night. Who knows, maybe we hit taco Bell

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<v Speaker 2>on the way home. You know, have a just do it,

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<v Speaker 2>do what dudes do.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know. I'm gonna have to make a

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<v Speaker 3>decision here soon if I'm going on where.

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<v Speaker 2>Or the other.

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<v Speaker 3>But don't let me keep you from going.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're you know you're thinking about it because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you if you've got tickets or you know somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that could, they could hook you up with tickets. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>you only had two more chances, so hopefully there's a

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<v Speaker 2>good turnout. But either way, no matter what the announced

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<v Speaker 2>attendance is tonight, I feel like, no matter what the

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<v Speaker 2>announced attendance has been in any of the games this year,

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<v Speaker 2>those that have been showing up, man, this team has

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<v Speaker 2>given them a lot to root for in that place.

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<v Speaker 2>The atmosphere itself has been has been awesome. I talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this a little bit earlier in the show. When

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<v Speaker 2>you are watching a game on television, it's the it's

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<v Speaker 2>the broadcaster's job to really sell the environment, right. They're

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<v Speaker 2>setting the scene and they're letting you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good look for them if they're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how great of an atmosphere it is and how rowdy

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<v Speaker 2>it is. That's really part of the job. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do that regardless. Certainlyast try to. But I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like this year, even though we haven't seen you know, sellouts,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it has come across really well

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<v Speaker 2>on television that you know, when this team's on a

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<v Speaker 2>run and they're playing well, playing hard, those that are there,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean really everybody in the lower Bowl it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a vibe, and that's that's what you want. It

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<v Speaker 2>still doesn't seem real that like a year ago. In

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<v Speaker 2>a way, I think because of how quickly Pat Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>started winning around here in Louisville, basketball is once again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, getting closer to where they belong, certainly in

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<v Speaker 2>the tournament. I mean, I think with Kelsey, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the ceiling is still really high. Like maybe if he's

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<v Speaker 2>here a long time and things can continue to go well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe every year you're looking at the tournament

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, a top five seed, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's getting greedy. Who knows if that's what will happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, clearly at times I don't even I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't even look back on the previous few

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<v Speaker 2>seasons and like remember that it happened, Which is good, right,

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<v Speaker 2>block it out of my mind. It's a very troubling

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<v Speaker 2>time in my life as a Louisville fan. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's also made it seem like a year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever we were on the show talking about different candidates,

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the timeline as far as will they do

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<v Speaker 2>it as soon as the game ends, will it take

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<v Speaker 2>a week, like you know, all that stuff that we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing a year ago, that seems like that was

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<v Speaker 2>so long ago. And I'm sure there are a variety

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons as to why it seems that way, but

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<v Speaker 2>one of them, I know is because here we are

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<v Speaker 2>winning again, and it's just it's been such a nice distract.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I kind of just have been getting lost

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<v Speaker 2>in the season. It wasn't until recently that I started

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of like no longer be able to live

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<v Speaker 2>in the moment quite as much, because it's pretty we

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<v Speaker 2>only got a couple of regular season games left, so

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<v Speaker 2>tonight they are fourteen and a half point favorites, against

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<v Speaker 2>this Cal team, and the kin Pom projected score would

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<v Speaker 2>be a sixteen point win for Louisville. And we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking earlier about Cal as far as you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>being to me one of the more like when I

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<v Speaker 2>think of Power six college basketball programs, irrelevant, kind of random,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly not successful, like if they just disappeared, you would

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<v Speaker 2>take a long time to notice. Cal is in that

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<v Speaker 2>category for sure for me. But then we had other

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<v Speaker 2>people mentioned the Nebraska TCU, who's the other way, Northwestern,

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<v Speaker 2>and look those schools are also I mean, we also

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<v Speaker 2>determined that Nebraska basketball has never won an nce DOUAA

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<v Speaker 2>tournament game, which is something I did not know. But

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<v Speaker 2>to me, Cal is more obscure because they're just so

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<v Speaker 2>far away and like you know that they don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about basketball where they are.

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<v Speaker 3>And in fact, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Were talking earlier about the one time Louisville played because

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<v Speaker 2>when I think of CAL basketball, think of that tournament loss.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't realize it, but Austin, did you know

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only time these two teams have ever played

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<v Speaker 2>each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Was in that tournament. Yeah, that tournament game, the ra

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<v Speaker 3>Kkeem Buckles game, Rackeen Buckles legacy game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were talking about how that game where I

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<v Speaker 2>was talking about how like when I think of that game,

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<v Speaker 2>I think of Raheem. But yeah, Louisville lost that one

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<v Speaker 2>of the tournaments, so we need to get revenge tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to even it up at one apiece because

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be you know, here they are entering life

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<v Speaker 2>in the ACC, cal is and they've got a winning

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<v Speaker 2>record against us. That can't that won't be the case

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<v Speaker 2>after tonight, at least, I hope not. All Right, One

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<v Speaker 2>thing that I did not realize, just because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's gonna happen and I'm not expecting it, but

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<v Speaker 2>technically Louisville could still be the you know, could be

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<v Speaker 2>the one seed in the ACC tournament. Again, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>predicting that this happens, however, with let's see, let me

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<v Speaker 2>make sure make sure I've got this correct. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville could get the one seed if these three things happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And these things are not crazy, are they?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they are? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, Ovan needs to beat cal and Stanford.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not that's not crazy. That's what you should do.

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<v Speaker 2>Be kind of crazy if you don't both at home,

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<v Speaker 2>both bad teams, so that that's one thing Oliver just

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<v Speaker 2>needs to win out. And then Clemson needs to beat

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<v Speaker 2>Boston College and Virginia Tech. They certainly should do that,

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<v Speaker 2>right I mean, in fact, do that game already take place.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like they already played them. Maybe I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I got to look it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, Boston College in Virginia Tech is who Clemson would

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<v Speaker 2>need to beat, and then the only other thing you

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<v Speaker 2>would need, which I feel like this is the to me,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what.

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<v Speaker 3>Is most unlikely.

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<v Speaker 2>But also I guess it's not technically crazy, but you

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<v Speaker 2>need North Carolina to beat Duke this weekend. So Duke's

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<v Speaker 2>playing insanely good right now. I mean they're beating the

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<v Speaker 2>hell out of teams. I mean really, NC State played

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<v Speaker 2>them within ten at the end of January, and then

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<v Speaker 2>from February on they.

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<v Speaker 3>Did lose to Clemson.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, that was one of their three losses and

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<v Speaker 2>the only loss they have an acc play. And other

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<v Speaker 2>than that, I mean, they've beat everybody by a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, they won ninety three to sixty on Monday

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<v Speaker 2>against Wake Forest. So this one is in Chapel Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina is looking like a team that might still be

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<v Speaker 2>able to get in because you know, they've won six

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<v Speaker 2>in a row. Although it's not against anybody we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>they have played better and they are at home.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, I don't think that happens. But I feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>The other things that would need to happen for Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>to get the one seed, those are like the expectation,

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<v Speaker 2>like it not happening would be the shock, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville winning out and also Clemson winning out.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what should happen. If not, that would be a surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>So it really just comes down to really and again,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I guess expect the unexpected, right it's March.

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<v Speaker 2>But if Carolina beats Duke on Saturday, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>feeling then that will just simply be louis being the

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<v Speaker 2>one seed. And I don't know how the tie breaker

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<v Speaker 2>would break, but that's that's the way it's laid out

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<v Speaker 2>here within the ACC. So Louisville of course has the

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<v Speaker 2>tiebreaker over and what you'd have is literally you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>a three way ACC champion in the regular season, Clemson, Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>and Louisville would all be able to claim a share

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<v Speaker 2>of the ACC regular season title, but somehow Louislle would

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<v Speaker 2>get the tie breaker to get.

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<v Speaker 3>The one seed.

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<v Speaker 2>They do have the win head to head against Clemson,

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<v Speaker 2>and Clemson has it against Duke, so therefore I guess

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<v Speaker 2>that's the kicker. But again, Louisville played Duke and lost,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't know. Anyways, a one seed would uh,

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, to be honest with you, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of want the two seed, don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm looking at what the bracket would look

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<v Speaker 2>like today if if if the favorites went out going

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<v Speaker 2>off the kin Palm formula, louisll would be the two seed,

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<v Speaker 2>and if they get past they'll play Stanford or which

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of weird because if they this would be awkward,

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<v Speaker 2>right if so, Virginia Tech and Cal are the ten

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen game ten seed fifteen seed game. So if

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<v Speaker 2>let's say Virginia Tech beats Cal and then Cal I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia Tech beats Cal, then Virginia Tech loses to Stanford,

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville would then play Stanford two straight games, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be the regular season finale and then the first

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<v Speaker 2>game in the ACC Tournament. So the reason I say

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<v Speaker 2>you might want the two is because I think you

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<v Speaker 2>want that opportunity to play Clemson, right, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say like Notre Dame gets in as the eleven

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<v Speaker 2>seed in the ACC Tournament and they end up making

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<v Speaker 2>it all the way to the Semis, and that's how

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<v Speaker 2>you play. Yeah, that would make your path to the

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<v Speaker 2>championship game better. But let's be real, with the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>being what it is, giving you no opportunities for quad

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<v Speaker 2>ones past you know, mid January.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I think you one is.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not desperate for it, right, Like it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>make or break, In fact, it's already a win you

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<v Speaker 2>have and getting like if you're best, this win is

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<v Speaker 2>Clemson twice.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's better to have it twice than just once,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, you know, I would rather at least have

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<v Speaker 2>that than an easier game, because I think at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>like you want to be able to do everything you can.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just it's just crazy to think that

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<v Speaker 2>But like only two chances to play teams that are

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<v Speaker 3>It just does. All right, let's see real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>On the Kentucky side of things, Mark Pope said something

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<v Speaker 2>to a forty game regular season, which for me, hell yeah, more.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me more college basketball, I dare you, because I'll

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<v Speaker 2>love every second of it. But he talked about stretching

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<v Speaker 3>The forty games. Uh and and again I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>Just telling me there's more college basketball that I could watch,

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<v Speaker 2>Here's is from his This is from his press conference quote.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's time to expand our season out

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<v Speaker 2>to a forty game season, like it should be a

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<v Speaker 2>forty game season, especially with all the change, with all

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make any sense that we're at thirty one

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<v Speaker 2>games regular season. It makes no sense. And I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>and so I'm a massive advocate, maybe the only one

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, but we need to expand the season

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<v Speaker 2>to forty games. Even for the guys that go on

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<v Speaker 2>to be a pros it gives them a better it

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<v Speaker 2>gives them a better sense. So when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, why he wants to do it, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe more games to get continuity to you know, more time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, forty instances before you get to postseason play

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<v Speaker 2>to where you can kind of, you know, figure out

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<v Speaker 2>your team. I guess that's that's in that quote. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the big sell for him there. So I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>see it. In fact, I mean, give me fifty games

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<v Speaker 2>if you want I mean, I don't think that'll ever happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But Louisville playing twenty ACC games, I mean, I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>do other do other power leagues play that many? Because

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<v Speaker 2>it was eighteen for a long time. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it might have been sixteen games for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was, I don't know either way. When it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the ACC, whenever they created the ACC Network,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was pretty early within like the first

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years of the ACC Network, they realized they

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<v Speaker 2>needed more inventory and they wanted to put more games there,

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<v Speaker 2>so they just added it to where now you play, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you play twenty games in the in in conference play,

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<v Speaker 2>which look, I'd rather play two or four more ACC

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<v Speaker 2>teams than play, you know, the Belloment's of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>no offense development. It's just those games to me are

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<v Speaker 2>honestly a huge waste of time. They don't benefit anybody

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<v Speaker 2>other than the paycheck that the team gets to come

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<v Speaker 2>in and play. And I guess you could to open

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<v Speaker 2>your doors, but like soon that won't be a thing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it'll be such a known thing that opening your

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<v Speaker 2>doors for an opponent like you know, Lehigh or Merrimack

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, like it when people don't have season tickets

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<v Speaker 2>as much as they used to, because I still think

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<v Speaker 2>those are season tickets always going to be a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I'm getting at is those games won't be

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<v Speaker 2>looked at as like, wow, here's a big payday for us,

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<v Speaker 2>we're opening up the um Center because lovel of basketball

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<v Speaker 2>plays you're only going to see. I think it even

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<v Speaker 2>it get worse as far as people not really wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to go to those kind of games. It's clearly better

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<v Speaker 2>if you're good. But like again we'll get that, We've

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<v Speaker 2>had that conversation before. But so ACC plays twenty games,

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<v Speaker 2>and the looks like eighteen is the SEC Big twelve

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<v Speaker 2>they play, Yeah, they play twenty in the Big twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the Big.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten they play they also play twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>So the SEC is the only league that doesn't play

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<v Speaker 2>twenty out of the power.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, let's see what the Big East does. The Big

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<v Speaker 3>East will.

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<v Speaker 2>Play they play twenty as well. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why the SEC does that, just like don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>they won't go to non games in the SEC football schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>which again the ACC doesn't, and I wish they would

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<v Speaker 2>because again, eliminating those games against those kind of teams.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just as a selfish fan when I think

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<v Speaker 2>about the product that I enjoyed that is college football

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<v Speaker 2>in college basketball, like, I don't want those games. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>rather have games where I can see my team play

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that you know I've heard of if they're not great.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, real quick, before we get to our next break.

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<v Speaker 2>The big Dog Vince Marrow. Have you heard this, Austin.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh oh, the big Dog. Jeff Brom's gonna try to

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<v Speaker 3>get him to come and be the recruiter. He's dropping

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<v Speaker 3>the bag for the big Dog, dropping the uup tax.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's it's not Louisville. But he apparently has interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>for the Bowling Green Head coaching job. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he'll get it, and I don't even think he

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<v Speaker 2>would take it if they offered it.

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't, because he take a pay cut. Like

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<v Speaker 3>he was just wants to be wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly, he seems to be like the most insecure guy

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<v Speaker 2>ever at wanting people to like appreciate him and think

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<v Speaker 2>he's great, and like he doesn't have any awareness that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the stuff that like gets floated out there,

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't even have to look at this link

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<v Speaker 2>from KSR. I did, but I knew that it was

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<v Speaker 2>Football Scoop that reported that Vince Marrow interviewed for the job,

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<v Speaker 2>because Vince Marrow feeds everything to the guys in Football Scoop.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the ones who you know, are the first. They're

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<v Speaker 2>the only people that have ever put out Vince Marrow

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<v Speaker 2>being tied to anything or having any conversation the others.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just been like, you know, people who Vince Marrow

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<v Speaker 2>knows personally and tells them to put stuff out there

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's not true. And I don't blame those people. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>if I had somebody coming to me that was a

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<v Speaker 2>coach and telling me this, I mean, I would feel

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<v Speaker 2>stupid not to at least run with it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>would also like try to let people know, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if I believe this, but this is what

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<v Speaker 2>I was told. Because like you know, Vince Marrow makes

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<v Speaker 2>over a million dollars. He would not make that at

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<v Speaker 2>Bowling Green. I don't think, and I feel like he

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, why would he want to go coach at

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<v Speaker 2>Bowling Green. He's got the easiest job in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>He just recruits and makes a lot of money and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody blames everything on Mark Stoopson, not him. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not saying they should blame it on Vince Marrow.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just you know, like when you're in a assistant

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<v Speaker 2>you're not the guy everybody's thinking about after a loss.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got the best of both worlds. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>get any of the heat when things don't go well.

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<v Speaker 2>You recruit and you make a lot of money. But

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<v Speaker 2>apparently Meroo, along with Mercer head coach Mike Jacobs and

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota co DC Nick Monroe, they have a reportedly interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>for that job because Scott Leffler left after six seasons

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<v Speaker 2>just last week to go be the quarterbacks coach with

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles in the NFL. Because that I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just that's just that that's a very very tough

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<v Speaker 2>gig to excel at, meaning you know, low level G

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<v Speaker 2>five college football coach, because you don't have the resources

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<v Speaker 2>to pay players like others, and any player that you

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<v Speaker 2>have is good, that is good is going to hit

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<v Speaker 2>the Portland leave. This is at least like the third

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<v Speaker 2>or fourth time that a job like this has lost

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<v Speaker 2>a coach just because they're like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>What am I doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't. There's no way, there's there's no scenario to

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<v Speaker 3>succeed here. All right, quick break, We'll come back on

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<v Speaker 3>the other side. Keep it rolling along.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for hanging out with us on.

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<v Speaker 2>A gloomy, cold, windy Maybe it's rain and it was

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<v Speaker 2>doing something.

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<v Speaker 3>Earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>We did get some rain, but then when I was

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<v Speaker 2>little the substance was a little different than rain. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they call that sleet. So yeah, it's gross outside. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ready for the warm weather. It cannot get here soon enough.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I was just thinking, like last week, my

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<v Speaker 2>mom and my stepdad, they were in Cabo, Mexico. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>my mother maybe driving home from work right now. I'm sorry, Mom,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you miss the beautiful Cabo. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>heavenly compared to what this is outside. And also we

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<v Speaker 2>did get lucky when it comes to the cold weather.

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<v Speaker 2>We got earlier because I think I have been doctor

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<v Speaker 2>macleury who joined us last week and said it.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was spot on Austin.

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<v Speaker 2>When it's gonna be cold outside, at least give us

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<v Speaker 2>sun like I feel like a lot of our cold

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<v Speaker 2>days we actually got some sunlight, which you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>cold weather still stinks for a lot of people, but

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<v Speaker 2>if it's sunny at least, you know, that's better than

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<v Speaker 2>cold and dark and you know, nasty outside.

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<v Speaker 4>So had perspective. Yes, he was absolutely right when we

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<v Speaker 4>were going through it. I remember it was like I

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<v Speaker 4>think when it first started January, it was just snow

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<v Speaker 4>for three straight weeks and I looked out and I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>what the hell, dude, it's sunny and nothing has melted.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatso over sunny in nine degrees it was just it

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was cold enough to her when you walk outside,

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<v Speaker 2>like your body my body would just hurt, like I

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<v Speaker 2>would just ache because it's so cold. And now it's

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<v Speaker 2>not that cold, although it did get in the mid

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<v Speaker 2>thirties earlier, and it's probably right there right about now,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, and that's not terrible. But

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<v Speaker 2>we had some warm weather that showed up, teased us

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<v Speaker 2>and then left. And I mean that at mother Nature.

422
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<v Speaker 2>She's been a real she's been a real tricky one

423
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<v Speaker 2>this year. That's that's for sure, all right. So if

424
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<v Speaker 2>you wanted something to be worried about when it comes

425
00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to the Cow Golden Bears tonight, I've got a stat

426
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<v Speaker 2>that is impressive, maybe the only impressive thing about this

427
00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Cow team statistically. You ready for it, Austin, they lead

428
00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:18.799
<v Speaker 2>the acc and free throws made per game. Don't put

429
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<v Speaker 2>them at the line, Oh boy, don't put them at

430
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<v Speaker 2>the strip. In fact, i'm looking at your hands off.

431
00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:25.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking here at yeah, cuffs out. But let's not

432
00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:28.759
<v Speaker 2>get excessive, right, no excessive force with the cuffs tonight, Chucky.

433
00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:32.599
<v Speaker 2>I'll always think of all that's a memory we have,

434
00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:35.160
<v Speaker 2>my man will When I think of Chucky, hepburn being

435
00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:37.839
<v Speaker 2>a great defender, which he is. I'm thinking of going

436
00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:40.279
<v Speaker 2>to the game with Austin whenever they were playing North

437
00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Carolina and he was doing his thing defensively, and Austin

438
00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:45.880
<v Speaker 2>looked at me and said, Chuck, he's got the cuffs out,

439
00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:47.720
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, yeah, the cuffs.

440
00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:48.599
<v Speaker 3>The cuffs were out.

441
00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:51.680
<v Speaker 2>He was locking everybody up, locking everybody up, cuffing them up,

442
00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:56.160
<v Speaker 2>all right. So Louisville, they are number one in one

443
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<v Speaker 2>statistic category here in the ACC three point attempted per game,

444
00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:06.400
<v Speaker 2>not a big shock. They also are number two and

445
00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:09.400
<v Speaker 2>three pointers made per game. I'm wondering who's making more.

446
00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:14.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious now, not that it really matters, but is

447
00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:16.720
<v Speaker 2>it like who's a because there's not many good teams

448
00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:19.680
<v Speaker 2>in the ACC, So therefore, like who would be a

449
00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:22.519
<v Speaker 2>really good three point shooting team? I bet it's Clemson.

450
00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:24.839
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna bet that they don't shoot a ton,

451
00:21:24.920 --> 00:21:27.440
<v Speaker 2>but they shoot a good clip. That's gonna be my guess,

452
00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:32.480
<v Speaker 2>all right. So let's see here three pointers as far

453
00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:38.759
<v Speaker 2>as uh yeah, three pointers made, it's Duke. So Duke

454
00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:42.359
<v Speaker 2>makes ten point four to threes. Louisville makes nine point eight,

455
00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:46.720
<v Speaker 2>so pretty close. Clemson is number three and then Virginia

456
00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:51.880
<v Speaker 2>right after that. So anyways, back to these I just

457
00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:54.519
<v Speaker 2>have never looked at these statistical comparisons that you get

458
00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:56.599
<v Speaker 2>in the Louisville game notes until I mean, I've looked

459
00:21:56.640 --> 00:21:58.920
<v Speaker 2>at him before, but just to see this late in

460
00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:00.519
<v Speaker 2>the year, when you've played you know, every game but

461
00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.079
<v Speaker 2>two to kind of see where you stand among not

462
00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:06.079
<v Speaker 2>only you know the ACC, but you can also see

463
00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:08.079
<v Speaker 2>where they stand, you know, nationally, like Louisville when it

464
00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:13.359
<v Speaker 2>comes to their national ranking the most outside their number

465
00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:18.680
<v Speaker 2>their number fourteen nationally and three pointers per game and

466
00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:22.000
<v Speaker 2>they're thirty three as far as three pointers make per game.

467
00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:24.599
<v Speaker 2>So as far as actually, no, I mean this, this,

468
00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean this isn't I mean again insert joke about

469
00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:32.000
<v Speaker 2>the ACC sucking right here. But Louisville's winning percentage is

470
00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:38.400
<v Speaker 2>eighteenth nationally and their their margin of victory, of course

471
00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:43.039
<v Speaker 2>is let's see, Duke has the biggest margin. I think,

472
00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:45.160
<v Speaker 2>now I gotta there we go, Yeah, scoring margin. So

473
00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Louisville is third in the ACC. I guess maybe Clemson

474
00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:51.799
<v Speaker 2>is second, but they're twenty ninth in the country in

475
00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:55.039
<v Speaker 2>scoring margin. And that's something I should remind myself of

476
00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:57.440
<v Speaker 2>every now and then, because for as much as I

477
00:22:57.480 --> 00:22:59.359
<v Speaker 2>feel like in the last four games, they just kind

478
00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:00.839
<v Speaker 2>of have looked war and down and I'm a little

479
00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:02.640
<v Speaker 2>worried about them running out of gas before you get

480
00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:05.079
<v Speaker 2>to the tournament, it hasn't been a worry enough to

481
00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:06.720
<v Speaker 2>where like they're losing games because of it.

482
00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:09.079
<v Speaker 3>But it's just been something you know, I've observed.

483
00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:11.599
<v Speaker 2>But with all that said, for the most part, they're

484
00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:14.519
<v Speaker 2>not just winning in the ACC They're kicking everybody's ass.

485
00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.519
<v Speaker 2>And even if they don't cover spreads, the spreads are

486
00:23:17.559 --> 00:23:20.160
<v Speaker 2>usually really, really big because Louisville has beat so many

487
00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:22.240
<v Speaker 2>teams by a big margin this year that that's what

488
00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:27.279
<v Speaker 2>the line gets set at. Speaking of that, currently Louisville

489
00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:31.559
<v Speaker 2>is still at fourteen and a half some decent good games,

490
00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:33.200
<v Speaker 2>some decent games to that. I haven't really looked at

491
00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:37.640
<v Speaker 2>the full board here, but we've got Round two of

492
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Florida Alabama that should be a really good game, Maryland

493
00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:42.480
<v Speaker 2>mission Maryland and Michigan.

494
00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:43.720
<v Speaker 3>That's a good Big ten matchup.

495
00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Let's see, I just saw a noo yeah, Missouri and

496
00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma that Oklahoma could punt, could you know, could maybe

497
00:23:53.319 --> 00:23:55.319
<v Speaker 2>solidify their standing in the tournament if they win that

498
00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:59.480
<v Speaker 2>game tonight. But then and look, Oklahoma doing well would

499
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:01.519
<v Speaker 2>be good for But I'm also just gonna be real here, like,

500
00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:05.160
<v Speaker 2>if Oklahoma makes the tournament, that would give Louisville another

501
00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:07.559
<v Speaker 2>team and there aren't many that they have beat that

502
00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.920
<v Speaker 2>is going to make the dance. But since January, Oklahoma

503
00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:14.680
<v Speaker 2>is four and twelve, Like, how can you even be

504
00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:17.039
<v Speaker 2>considered for the tournament? And again it's because the bubble

505
00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:19.640
<v Speaker 2>is really weak and the ACC is just that good.

506
00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:21.519
<v Speaker 3>But like, I don't know.

507
00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, I'll move on because you know, I just I

508
00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:32.759
<v Speaker 2>don't understand how you can continue to lose and not

509
00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:35.240
<v Speaker 2>like if you get it to me, it's such an

510
00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:38.240
<v Speaker 2>obvious thing. I don't know anything about how the formula

511
00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:40.960
<v Speaker 2>was created. I wouldn't know how to fix it. But

512
00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:43.799
<v Speaker 2>you don't need to understand formulas or analytics to just

513
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:46.440
<v Speaker 2>know that if you follow the net ranking and even

514
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:49.319
<v Speaker 2>the Ken POMP for that matter, there's a major flaw,

515
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:52.799
<v Speaker 2>and that is this winning a game and losing a

516
00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:57.680
<v Speaker 2>game is not factored enough in said formula. Because every

517
00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:01.359
<v Speaker 2>year you see teams that didn't win, but yet they

518
00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:03.400
<v Speaker 2>play in a really good league and they played a

519
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of the teams competitively, so they'll be sitting like

520
00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:11.000
<v Speaker 2>below five hundred, well below five hundred in their league,

521
00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.960
<v Speaker 2>sometimes even nearly below five hundred overall, and they'll have

522
00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:17.079
<v Speaker 2>a net ranking that would make you think they're a

523
00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:20.279
<v Speaker 2>tournament team. Like there's a clearfulall fix it, fix it,

524
00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:23.640
<v Speaker 2>damn it all right, so earlier we were talking about

525
00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:25.759
<v Speaker 2>how random and just.

526
00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:27.559
<v Speaker 3>Like forgettable col basketball is.

527
00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:30.039
<v Speaker 2>And I had a buddy, Mitchell who texted me and says,

528
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:32.920
<v Speaker 2>you should go through the ACC, you and Austin and

529
00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:35.880
<v Speaker 2>just say the first player that comes to mind when

530
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:39.160
<v Speaker 2>you think of when you think of certain teams, I

531
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:42.920
<v Speaker 2>think that's, you know, because there's gonna be something. There's

532
00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:44.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna be somewhere I don't have a player, but then

533
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:47.519
<v Speaker 2>there's gonna be others where like I don't really know

534
00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:49.039
<v Speaker 2>like where to start, Like we'll start with Duke.

535
00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Like when you think of Duke basketball, who do you

536
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:56.559
<v Speaker 3>think of? Probably Christian Layton or Foreshre or Grant Hill.

537
00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 2>So when I think of Duke basketball over all, I think,

538
00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:04.440
<v Speaker 2>so there's two ways to answer this. When I think

539
00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.559
<v Speaker 2>of like Louisville and Duke or Louisville and whoever, you

540
00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:07.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I.

541
00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Mean, like, because that's I think.

542
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:09.400
<v Speaker 4>I think.

543
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>When I think of Duke basketball overall, I think of

544
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.759
<v Speaker 2>Jay Williams because he was the first really really really

545
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:16.920
<v Speaker 2>good Duke player that I watched, And I like knew

546
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:19.160
<v Speaker 2>that everybody hated Duke and it was cool to hate Duke,

547
00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:22.359
<v Speaker 2>but man, that guy was a bad, bad man friend

548
00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:24.359
<v Speaker 2>of the show too, right, right, Yeah, So I think

549
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:26.039
<v Speaker 2>of him. But when I think of Louisville and Duke,

550
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I think of Zion just because I remember like watching

551
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:31.480
<v Speaker 2>him in person against Louisville at the UM Center and thinking, Okay,

552
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I get it now. This guy is insanely different when

553
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:35.799
<v Speaker 2>it comes to his athleticism.

554
00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:37.839
<v Speaker 4>There was that photo of him ripping the ball from

555
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.519
<v Speaker 4>Jordan Wara and he literally like fressuring the ball.

556
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just the thumb made it look as if he

557
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:47.680
<v Speaker 2>like you would have thought the ball was a millisecond

558
00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>away from exploding.

559
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I forgot about that picture and.

560
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:56.039
<v Speaker 2>The two things that really stood out as far as

561
00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:57.440
<v Speaker 2>seeing him, because I mean I got I got to

562
00:26:57.480 --> 00:26:59.920
<v Speaker 2>watch him pretty close. I was sitting like behind the goal,

563
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:02.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, he's nearly he's near the rim a lot.

564
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>And I remember one he's he's not like super short,

565
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:08.960
<v Speaker 2>but in person, like he has kind of a slouch,

566
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:12.200
<v Speaker 2>so he's actually he seems shorter than he actually is,

567
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 2>but he's also not even that tall.

568
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:15.720
<v Speaker 3>But also the whole fat thing.

569
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>And I know he's probably picked up wait since Duke,

570
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:19.720
<v Speaker 2>but he never looked fat in person.

571
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 3>He looked like a he looked like a linebacker. I mean,

572
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:22.880
<v Speaker 3>that's what he looked like.

573
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.759
<v Speaker 2>But also what I remember watching, and I remember thinking

574
00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 2>to myself, this guy's probably gonna be a legendary player

575
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:30.440
<v Speaker 2>in the NBA, which right now doesn't look at that.

576
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:32.880
<v Speaker 2>But with all that said, when he's healthy, he's good.

577
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.799
<v Speaker 2>He's just not healthy, and you know he's with New Orleans.

578
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 2>But anyways, with him, one thing that I remember like

579
00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:41.640
<v Speaker 2>saying to myself, I've never seen anything like this and

580
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:43.640
<v Speaker 2>I probably never will again. And that's what makes this

581
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:47.960
<v Speaker 2>guy special was that he had the quickest and best

582
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.920
<v Speaker 2>footwork I've ever seen from anybody, any any position, any size.

583
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.839
<v Speaker 2>So here's a guy that is built like a like

584
00:27:55.880 --> 00:28:00.400
<v Speaker 2>a tahoe, right, like a like a like a Cadillac Escalade.

585
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 2>And he can also jump out of the gym with explosiveness.

586
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:07.480
<v Speaker 2>But when you think of explosiveness, it's not just can

587
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:09.839
<v Speaker 2>you jump, it's how quick you can move to do it.

588
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 2>And he like his first step. It's unfair for anybody

589
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.759
<v Speaker 2>because to me, it felt like you couldn't guard him

590
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:17.680
<v Speaker 2>without foiling him. You're not gonna call it every time,

591
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>but like he's so quick and physical that you can't

592
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>guard him without fouling him. I mean again, they don't

593
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:24.920
<v Speaker 2>call it every time. But anyways, that's whoy I think

594
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:26.039
<v Speaker 2>of when it comes to the Louisville side.

595
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 3>What about Clemson? This is where I go with your thought.

596
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:31.680
<v Speaker 4>I just think of where they were at with Louisville

597
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:35.160
<v Speaker 4>and the name that I always remembered, Jerum Blossom game, remember.

598
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Yes, just because of the random name, right yeah. And

599
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>then I've already forgotten this guy's name. But they had

600
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 2>a big white guy last year that that was there forever,

601
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:48.559
<v Speaker 2>it seemed, and they finally broke through. And again that's

602
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:53.680
<v Speaker 2>how forgettable you know Clemson basketball is because I've already

603
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>forgot his name. He's gonna drive me crazy.

604
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.160
<v Speaker 3>PJ. Hall. Yeah, because I felt like he was there forever.

605
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Uh, let's go SMU. Do you have anybody?

606
00:29:05.839 --> 00:29:10.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh no, because I didn't factor.

607
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

608
00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So for me, I think of a guy who

609
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.279
<v Speaker 2>didn't even actually play there now that I think about it.

610
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Emmanuel Moodier.

611
00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>He committed to Larry Brown at SMU, and I remember

612
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:21.519
<v Speaker 2>that being a big deal, and then he never ended.

613
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:23.079
<v Speaker 3>Up there because he couldn't qualify. It was supposed to

614
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 3>be the next thing. What about Virginia. Oh this uh again,

615
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Malcolm Brogden, I'm going Kyle Guy true yeah in Louisville.

616
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Tie yeah, Kyle Guy or.

617
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Ty Jerome is who I think of when I think

618
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:37.359
<v Speaker 2>of Virginia. Those two guys and they played together. So

619
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's it was a.

620
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:40.599
<v Speaker 3>Little point guard that they had was there for like forever,

621
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 3>it seems.

622
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.240
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, yes, I forget his name. Oh it's gonna

623
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 4>like little Samoan guy if I can remember.

624
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>No, I think, oh no, no, there's two different guys

625
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:52.960
<v Speaker 2>that they've had that that I forgot about. No, No,

626
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Ty Jerome, Gosh, Key Clark Clark. Yeah, but there was

627
00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.559
<v Speaker 2>a guy. But there was a guy before both of

628
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:04.039
<v Speaker 2>them that that I'm I'm kind of blanking on. But

629
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:06.440
<v Speaker 2>he was he had like a little mini fro. I

630
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<v Speaker 2>think he was mixed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's gonna drive me crazy now I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta look it up because he was like he was there,

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<v Speaker 2>He was there before.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like before TD Jerome and those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh London Parentice remember that name Prentiss? Yes, my god,

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<v Speaker 2>So what about let's go to Virginia Tech?

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<v Speaker 3>Another another one just because it relates, But remember Carrie

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<v Speaker 3>Blackshair junior. Yep, that's exactly who I was thinking of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, because he was he if you remember, he

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<v Speaker 2>was the guy who it was. It was not a

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<v Speaker 2>common thing for a guy like that to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to transfer and play right away because he was a

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<v Speaker 2>grad transfer. But it was it was because of an

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<v Speaker 2>unusual circumstance, right, like when you used to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to go basically free agency was limited back in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>right louisvill could go get Trey Lewis and Damien Lee

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<v Speaker 2>because those guys just had an extra year really by loophole.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's a completely different world.

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<v Speaker 2>But carry Blacksheer left Virginia Tech and it was a big,

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<v Speaker 2>big deal and sure enough he went to Florida and

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<v Speaker 2>it was fine, but he did not carry over a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of you know what what you know, it's right,

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<v Speaker 2>But now I remember there's also a guy on Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>Tech that played for Buzz Williams that I'm forgetting that

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<v Speaker 2>that that was pretty good for a little while.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, Let's who else do we have here? Let's go

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<v Speaker 3>uh notre Dame uh our guy Louke harong Gody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think of yeah, Herongody is the one

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<v Speaker 2>that comes to mind for me, for both Louisville and

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<v Speaker 2>just for overall.

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<v Speaker 3>But another name was Bonsi Golson? Remember him? Oh yeah, Bonza?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? What about uh? What about Carolina? Of course MJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, It'll always be MJ. But when it comes to ACC,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think of gosh, who was it that Marcus Page?

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<v Speaker 3>Remember him?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think hit that buzzer beat or not the buzzy

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<v Speaker 4>the off centered three pointer before the lost villain up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Louisville ended up losing to this team, this

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<v Speaker 2>team in the tournament, in the ACC tournament, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was in gosh, it might have been twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>their first year there. They lost to them in the tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>And that team, gosh, that team had what was his name?

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<v Speaker 2>A guy who ended up going to the NBA. Briefly,

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<v Speaker 2>what is his name? Gonna drive me crazy? They have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of guys to go to the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe I'm not. Maybe I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Bryce Johnson, I remember Bryce Johnson? What about what

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<v Speaker 2>about Boston College?

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody?

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<v Speaker 4>I have nobody? Jared Dudley okay, but he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>any Louisville talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I only think of him because he was on

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<v Speaker 2>the broadcast when we played them earlier this year, they put.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah with Pitt Who do you Who do you go with? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>This is Big East days. I think of a few.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Sam Young, Levance Fields, Ashton Gibbs.

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<v Speaker 2>Dewan Blair, Babykwan Blair, Big Blair a man, he was

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<v Speaker 2>a monster man.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. Do you have anybody for Georgia Tech?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Chris Bosh or Jack So I think I think

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<v Speaker 4>of Jared Jacksono when I forgot about him, I think

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<v Speaker 4>of I think of Bosh overall.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I think of Louisville, I mean I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably Alvarado, their point guard, who you know for

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<v Speaker 2>Josh Chasner did have some success, and then Michael de

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<v Speaker 2>Vaux played there for seemingly ever. I kind of think

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<v Speaker 2>of him to it, And then I got nobody for

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess you can go the Lopez twins, but they're not.

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<v Speaker 4>They weren't acc or Louisville.

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<v Speaker 3>At that point, Syracuse has gotta be Carmelo, right, It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's Carmelo and Brandon Trish Remo.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, So I go Carmelo, and then for Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>I go Michael Carter Williams, just because I remember him

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<v Speaker 2>being a really tall, good point guard.

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<v Speaker 3>But Man, Russ and Payton made his life. Hell dude,

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<v Speaker 3>yes they do.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we already talked about cal What about NC

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<v Speaker 2>State who probably probably Dennis Smith? Yeah that because he

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<v Speaker 2>was such a big time recruit for them. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta be honest. I'll probably also think about the big

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<v Speaker 2>fellow last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Was his name DJ? Yeah? DJ Burns, just because I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>how could you not Florida State? Uh, Dwayne Bacon, Jonathan Isaac.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I go with uh, who's the guy who ended

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<v Speaker 2>up going to the first round Scottie Barnes, just because

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<v Speaker 2>I remember he was a lottery pick with Miami.

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<v Speaker 3>Who do you have Shane Larkin? Yeah? I remember him,

725
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<v Speaker 3>was a bad dude.

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<v Speaker 4>He had He had a great Uh he had a

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<v Speaker 4>great tournament run in the year that Louisville won the championship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I go to this was a guy who played

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<v Speaker 2>for them when they weren't great. But remember Chris likes

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<v Speaker 2>the little five to seven point guard. I think of

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<v Speaker 2>him Chris like blast. For those just tuning in, We're

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<v Speaker 2>just thinking of the first player that comes to mind

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<v Speaker 2>with ACC teams, all right, last one, wake Forest?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh once again?

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<v Speaker 4>This team uh like Jeff Tige, Alfa uk Amino and

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<v Speaker 4>probably CP three too.

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<v Speaker 3>Mine will always be Chris. These are my two.

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<v Speaker 2>CP three obviously, and then Derek for Louisville. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's I mean, actually this isn't even t but not

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<v Speaker 2>for Louisville because he Louisvill didn't play him at that time. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know who I think of it. I think of

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<v Speaker 2>wake Forest, not a player. I think of Dino Gaudio.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I've already forgotten about him.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we got to run quick break, very quick break.

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<v Speaker 2>Will come back and tell you buy it really quickly