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Speaker 3: Is Sam, Sam, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 5: I am doing great. George, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great? And thank you for joining us this evening.
Speaker 3: And as we kick things off, please do introduce yourself
Speaker 3: to the audience.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm going to try and keep this short
Speaker 5: because it was quite a journey. My name is Sam.
Speaker 5: I am loving Ease. I groped most of my life
Speaker 5: in the Middle East in Lovanon. We moved to the
Speaker 5: US when I was seventeen. In Lovanon, me and my
Speaker 5: whole family became Christians. We asked Christ to save us,
Speaker 5: and so that alone was interesting, me a Christian in
Speaker 5: a country that's mostly Muslim. But we had a pretty
Speaker 5: good childhood. Moved to Georgia seventeen, went to pharmacy school.
Speaker 5: About four years later, met my wonderful wife at church
Speaker 5: when I was going to school. We got married and
Speaker 5: moved up to the North Georgia area, where we've been
Speaker 5: ever since. And I was pretty blue pilled. I mean,
Speaker 5: I was all one hundred percent of the government's out
Speaker 5: for US. Vaccines are amazing for our health. Why on
Speaker 5: earth would you question it? I am a pharmacist. After all,
Speaker 5: we definitely went to the moon. Are you crazy? It
Speaker 5: was just it would get so emotional when someone tried
Speaker 5: to make me look at some data that maybe doesn't
Speaker 5: fit and that should have been a red fly for me.
Speaker 5: Why am I getting emotional, I'm not listening to what
Speaker 5: they're saying. So honestly, it took two things to start
Speaker 5: waking me and my wife up. And it was the
Speaker 5: birth of our first born, of our little son, and
Speaker 5: then COVID and being in the pharmacy when COVID was
Speaker 5: going on was definitely a wake up call. Let's start
Speaker 5: with my little kid. We had him in the hospital
Speaker 5: in October when October twenty twenty, when COVID was going crazy,
Speaker 5: and they asked us a lot of you know, what
Speaker 5: do you want to do? Hey, do you want this
Speaker 5: or that? Any shots? Do you want any skin on
Speaker 5: skin time? And we weren't completely you know, unaware of
Speaker 5: what's good for kids that we opted for, like no
Speaker 5: antibiotic drops and the eye, don't give him any shots
Speaker 5: until we know, yes, we want as much skin on
Speaker 5: skin time as we can. Well, it was all blamely ignored.
Speaker 5: He got his heap shot right after he popped out.
Speaker 5: They took him away and washed him up and closed
Speaker 5: them up and then had him to my wife. She
Speaker 5: got no time with him whatsoever. And we just felt like,
Speaker 5: something's wrong here. Why did they completely ignore what we wanted?
Speaker 5: And then they just kind of rushed us out, so
Speaker 5: we just started, you know, something's up here with a
Speaker 5: home birth have been better. We didn't feel like the
Speaker 5: experience was good at all. So time comes for his
Speaker 5: first pediatrician visit and Best and I were talking about this.
Speaker 5: I was definitely all pro get his shots, but even
Speaker 5: I wasn't, you know, forgetting all the shots. There are
Speaker 5: just so many. I was thinking the big ones. So
Speaker 5: we went to the pediatrician and they're like, all right,
Speaker 5: let's start, and we told them, hey, we just think
Speaker 5: we should just do a few of these vaccines. They
Speaker 5: immediately started treating us like we were crazy, and they said, oh,
Speaker 5: we have a delayed schedule that we can give you,
Speaker 5: but we're not responsible for anything that might happen to
Speaker 5: your kid. And I was thinking, what kind of way
Speaker 5: is that to present this. It sounds like you're threatening us.
Speaker 5: And their delayed schedule was maybe a two month delay
Speaker 5: and he's still getting all the shots. So that immediately
Speaker 5: got us into researching, and he never got any shots
Speaker 5: after that. I mean, it just took a little bit
Speaker 5: of open mindnus and let's go find some data. And
Speaker 5: could not find any data that would make me ever
Speaker 5: want to give my kids any shots. So I guess
Speaker 5: I was thankful for how they treated us, but we
Speaker 5: just blew our mind. How I mean, I'm in pharmacy,
Speaker 5: I'm a pharmacist, and I didn't even know any of
Speaker 5: this stuff. In school, we got maybe a three hour
Speaker 5: course on vaccines that involved the representative from one of
Speaker 5: the manufacturers. Wasn't even a teacher, professor. They just came
Speaker 5: in and we're like, this is what you do. This
Speaker 5: is how you get over our parents and not wanting
Speaker 5: to do it. This is what you say, trust that
Speaker 5: these are great, these will bring good revenue for your
Speaker 5: pharmacy reimbursements really high goodbye, and a sales pitch. Absolutely,
Speaker 5: and then you know you're you're so in pharmacy school.
Speaker 5: You're just so nervous about what's going to be on
Speaker 5: the test. You don't really think about what's coming. You're
Speaker 5: just writing down and trying to memorize. And seeing this
Speaker 5: huge schedule set us in a frenzy of writing and
Speaker 5: trying to memorize because there was a lot of stuff
Speaker 5: on there, and there goes your critical thinking. You're just
Speaker 5: eating and spinning it out. So that was the first
Speaker 5: thing was vaccines, and I wish it happened earlier because
Speaker 5: I had already signed up and gone the first two
Speaker 5: Maderna shots when it was being studied. Wow, before this happened,
Speaker 5: I know, I'm glad. My heart's still beating. But you know,
Speaker 5: we'll see before you.
Speaker 3: Go forward, you actually sign up for one of the trials,
Speaker 3: the clinical trials prior to January twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5: Yes, oh wow, Yes, I was thinking, oh, this is
Speaker 5: a triple whin. You know, I'm helping my couentry, i
Speaker 5: am getting the shot, and I'm getting paid. I mean,
Speaker 5: there's no no, there's no downside here. I got really
Speaker 5: sick after both shots, I mean like really sick. It
Speaker 5: felt work. I've had the flu before, and it just
Speaker 5: felt worse. I had to I never call out of work.
Speaker 5: I'm a workaholic, and I had to call out for
Speaker 5: a couple of days because I couldn't move, And that
Speaker 5: also made me feel like I did something wrong. There
Speaker 5: were doing that, but it was part of the waking
Speaker 5: up process.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, and we've all been there. But I also
Speaker 3: want to go back a little further where you had
Speaker 3: basically told the doctors when when your son was born
Speaker 3: this is how we wanted to happen, and how they
Speaker 3: just pulled them out and gave them. You said, the
Speaker 3: hep be shot and very little skin time. I guess
Speaker 3: that was the first event that really led you to think,
Speaker 3: what's going on here?
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, it felt like we were I mean, they
Speaker 5: kept telling us before the birth that we were in control,
Speaker 5: and it felt like we're absolutely not in control. The
Speaker 5: protocol was in control, which it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, and I still believe to this day because
Speaker 3: I saw the way I was treated at the VA
Speaker 3: when I turned down, you know, my shot. I was
Speaker 3: just a shoed out of the building basically, and they've
Speaker 3: never even called me back since, which is fine. I've
Speaker 3: I've got other means, et cetera. But you know, I've
Speaker 3: been doing my other podcast for many years now. And
Speaker 3: when you take the time to look into big medicine,
Speaker 3: which includes what they call big pharma in the vaccine industry,
Speaker 3: and the people who come out to speak out against it,
Speaker 3: or maybe people who are are we're setting up natural
Speaker 3: things to fight cancer versus just going to get chemo,
Speaker 3: and how these people are vilified and in some cases
Speaker 3: even chased out of the country.
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, it's terrible, so continue, want to go ahead? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 5: so after that, let me see here have some notes,
Speaker 5: all right, Yeah, so number two was florine. We stumbled
Speaker 5: upon florine, and so my wife started going and getting
Speaker 5: big jugs and filling them up with the reverse autmosis
Speaker 5: floride free water from the nearest store. And you know,
Speaker 5: it was inconvenience, definitely, but we really once looking into
Speaker 5: it again, once you start really looking, you don't have
Speaker 5: to be someone who's brilliant. I mean, anyone can look
Speaker 5: into the stuff and you can just first you look
Speaker 5: at who benefits and where the funding comes from, and
Speaker 5: immediately all the red flogs come up, and you can
Speaker 5: find just a history of people who stood against what
Speaker 5: we think is right now they're all being crushed and
Speaker 5: no one's going to be crushed if their small frig.
Speaker 5: They're not really doing anything to stop the money flow.
Speaker 5: So that alone took us right to Okay, Florida's probably bad,
Speaker 5: let's try to stop it. And I don't know if
Speaker 5: this was because of the process of changing that we
Speaker 5: were doing and praying about it, or if it was physical,
Speaker 5: but it felt like after the florid was gone, it
Speaker 5: was much easier to think critically and have an open mind.
Speaker 5: It just felt like a weight kind of left. So
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if florid has a effect on you
Speaker 5: that makes you a bit more complacent, but to me,
Speaker 5: it felt like I went from constantly wanting to fight
Speaker 5: for what I'm comfortable knowing to Okay, I question everything.
Speaker 5: So that was step two. We have a nice filter
Speaker 5: now that we just use since it's amazing.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I absolutely you know, encourage people to do that.
Speaker 3: The two changes we made we did that. Also, we
Speaker 3: got fluoride out of our life, the toothpaste, the mouthwash,
Speaker 3: fluoride free filters, et cetera. We have a well, so
Speaker 3: we're good there. But the other thing that we did
Speaker 3: change in our life that I believe also made a
Speaker 3: difference as far as critical thinking and seeing things was
Speaker 3: making sure that deodorants we used didn't have aluminumentum because
Speaker 3: the armpit is one of the most absorbive, Uh what's
Speaker 3: the absorbive places of your body? And these right guards
Speaker 3: and all these other deodorants are full of aluminum and
Speaker 3: you lather it on there every single day. So that's
Speaker 3: a change we made. And as far as the fluoride goes.
Speaker 3: There are studies out there that the top five countries
Speaker 3: in the world that have the most cancer, four of
Speaker 3: them push fluoride.
Speaker 5: Yes, I did hear that on your other podcasts. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I looked at it up and that's crazy, but
Speaker 5: I don't I don't doubt it at all. Not toxic.
Speaker 3: And Edward Burnetz again, who is the great uncle of
Speaker 3: the CEO of Netflix, he's one of the guys that
Speaker 3: they hired. This guy basically did a psychological operation to
Speaker 3: get people and Dennis to believe that putting fluoride in
Speaker 3: the water was going to make their teeth better. And
Speaker 3: it fluoride is so detrimental. It's it's a toxic waste
Speaker 3: of aluminium and no way, shape or form is it
Speaker 3: good for you.
Speaker 5: M M yep. So yeah. We also don't use any
Speaker 5: dealdorant with aluminum or really anything with fragrance. So it's
Speaker 5: essentially I think it's just like ethanol and a drop
Speaker 5: or two of some essential or something that's very low concentrated.
Speaker 5: That's all you need really. After I mean, you might
Speaker 5: need a period of detoxing where you thinks a little
Speaker 5: bit and then it just goes away your body gets
Speaker 5: used to it.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's wonderful. But yeah, that was Flora step two. Uh.
Speaker 5: Then it got a bit deeper, and I'm I won't
Speaker 5: focus too much on this because it's uh, probably for
Speaker 5: your other podcast, but you know it was government stuff,
Speaker 5: you know, the moon landing, nine to eleven, big things
Speaker 5: like that. It's crazy because once you look into this
Speaker 5: and you just you just watch and read, You're like,
Speaker 5: how did I ever believe this? How did I ever
Speaker 5: believe that an aluminum plane didn't just go splat outside
Speaker 5: of the building. It somehow went in and then caused
Speaker 5: the fire hot enough to cause this thing to collapse perfectly. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then no one talks about Tower seven that just
Speaker 5: happened to go because it was there. It was just
Speaker 5: crazy And I think my parents still don't believe me
Speaker 5: on that one. But that's okay. I just en the Pentagon.
Speaker 5: You can't land a house fly on the Pentagon without
Speaker 5: them knowing, as you know, and you're gonna let a
Speaker 5: plane go in there.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And of course the part where you know they
Speaker 3: had pilots with thirty years experienced try hundreds of time
Speaker 3: to make that quirk screw landing into it. Not one
Speaker 3: of them could do it, and according to the reports,
Speaker 3: that guy couldn't even fly a single engine sesna.
Speaker 5: Correct. I didn't see that too crazy. There's so much
Speaker 5: evidence against it, no doubt in my mind it was.
Speaker 5: It was all set up. And I mean, I'll see
Speaker 5: what else was there? Oh yeah, the moonlighting. I mean
Speaker 5: I think what I first watched was a funny thing
Speaker 5: happened on the way to the moon, which is a
Speaker 5: great opening to looking into that. And then you know,
Speaker 5: you just thought and you think. I think the Atari
Speaker 5: came out a few years after that, So that's the
Speaker 5: computer mode that we had, and we somehow got there
Speaker 5: and it came back. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's laughable. And the phone conversation with Nixon
Speaker 3: and you know who took the video of that thing
Speaker 3: taken off? And you know, maybe that thing was passable
Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty nine, but if you look at that
Speaker 3: video today, it's laughable. But I think the problem is people,
Speaker 3: even people say yeah, the moon landing was fake, I
Speaker 3: don't think they fully understand how big of a lie
Speaker 3: that is. Like, according to the history books, that's supposedly
Speaker 3: the greatest accomplishment of all mankind. So if that is
Speaker 3: a lie, that's why I tell people, then you have
Speaker 3: to look at everything else. And as your eyes slowly
Speaker 3: start to open, it's easier to discern other rabbit holes
Speaker 3: or conspiracies if you will, and you start understanding everything
Speaker 3: is really a lie at best, it's got a little
Speaker 3: bit of truth saturated with a lot of lives.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And once the moon thing opened up
Speaker 5: to me, then I feel like I was mentally ready
Speaker 5: to accept what was coming next, which goes thanks to
Speaker 5: my wife because one night after work, I'm exhausted, We're
Speaker 5: just sitting there Julian froms on TV show that was
Speaker 5: just there and she was like, hey, do you think
Speaker 5: though were the Earth could be not round? And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm not ready for this. I don't think angle that far.
Speaker 5: I mean, we have, you know, you know, the typical arguments.
Speaker 5: We got pictures, we got this, you can see the
Speaker 5: horizon vanished, all the typical nonsense that science cannot possibly verify,
Speaker 5: kind of spyting that out. And she just sent me
Speaker 5: a PDF copy of I think it was sixteen emergency
Speaker 5: landings that proved the flat Earth.
Speaker 3: That's a great one.
Speaker 5: I read the whole thing on my phone that night,
Speaker 5: and it just shattered everything in my head. I I
Speaker 5: think I cried because I mean, I was all into
Speaker 5: space and as a kid, you know, I want to
Speaker 5: be an astronaut. I want to work for NASA, and
Speaker 5: and and then to realize that if something this big
Speaker 5: could be a lie, then it's definitely spiritual. Something much
Speaker 5: bigger than just what we can see or touch is
Speaker 5: happening here. Because sure not everyone have to be in
Speaker 5: on it, but the leaders of the countries would have
Speaker 5: to be in on it, and for them to all
Speaker 5: be united like that, there has to be a spiritual
Speaker 5: aspect of this. And so that's when I started digging
Speaker 5: into what the Bible says as well. And the Bible
Speaker 5: from the beginning to end. Nowhere does it say it's
Speaker 5: it's around her curve, it's flat, it shall not be moved.
Speaker 5: The Sun and the moon are moving. You can possibly
Speaker 5: stop a rotating Earth and Joshua's time without killing us all.
Speaker 5: And we can't all see Christ coming back if someone's
Speaker 5: on the other side, you know, being unfortunate. It just
Speaker 5: all opened up suddenly, and quite a few people in
Speaker 5: my family are there too. They're on board. Some are
Speaker 5: still on their journey, but you know, I'm praying for them. Obviously,
Speaker 5: I believe salvation is your number one aspect. But like
Speaker 5: I said, if something that big is being pulled off,
Speaker 5: then I feel like we should all know about it
Speaker 5: because something is being planned. And so yeah, I couldn't
Speaker 5: sleep for a few weeks after that. It was just
Speaker 5: tossing and turning all night. I don't know what to
Speaker 5: latch onto because I felt like the ground was just
Speaker 5: taken up from under me. But after everything calmed down,
Speaker 5: it was time for all the research. Because everyone I
Speaker 5: tried to bring this up to you, they always expect you.
Speaker 5: If you say I don't think the Earth is round,
Speaker 5: they expect you to have all the answers to everything.
Speaker 3: Yep, so load up on data time exactly, And yet
Speaker 3: they don't have. If you ask them the simple questions
Speaker 3: about haliocentrism, they can't even answer.
Speaker 5: Them, right. I was answering their questions for them for
Speaker 5: what they were defending.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I'm a very I like to see things
Speaker 5: not just a math never made sense to me. I
Speaker 5: mean simple math. Obviously, once you get into theoretical stuff
Speaker 5: that you can't touch or see. It just didn't make
Speaker 5: sense to me, so I like to go and experiment.
Speaker 5: I did the moonlight experiment, which on every surface every
Speaker 5: day when the moon was bright enough, it was always
Speaker 5: cooler under the moon. I can't I mean, I took
Speaker 5: videos of it. I took pictures. It's a fact. It's
Speaker 5: been experimented over and over. You can repeat it. That's
Speaker 5: science right there, And then you get your theoretical things too.
Speaker 5: When do you ever have a fluid move with a
Speaker 5: solid without there being a great amount of drag. The
Speaker 5: atmosphere can't possibly spin with the rotating solid Earth and
Speaker 5: not cause crazy dragon. It would cause constant you know,
Speaker 5: winds or fires on the Earth that it would not
Speaker 5: spin at the same speed. They would be dragged because
Speaker 5: it's a fluid. That alone should make you think that
Speaker 5: this can't work. Even if gravity's a thing and holding
Speaker 5: me down, it can't hold the air the same way
Speaker 5: it holds the Earth. So stuff like that kept starting
Speaker 5: to pop up, along with the Bible versus and you know,
Speaker 5: now there's no doubt in my mind that that we're
Speaker 5: not on a spinning ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's amazing, and I think it goes back
Speaker 3: to how you felt when you realize flat earth and
Speaker 3: all these other things, how you've been fooled. And I
Speaker 3: had a very similar experience to years many years ago,
Speaker 3: where like legitimately I barely slept for two weeks because
Speaker 3: I think I realized that I had to unlearn so
Speaker 3: much of my life that I had digested and thought
Speaker 3: was true, and I had to relearn what was true.
Speaker 3: And like you said, I think at that point you
Speaker 3: realize maybe we should put down the history books and
Speaker 3: those things and pick up the Bible. And again, one
Speaker 3: of our listeners many many episodes ago mentioned a verse
Speaker 3: that didn't really get spoken about enough, which was Genesis two,
Speaker 3: verse one, that says, thus the heavens and the earth
Speaker 3: were finished, and all the host of them. And we're
Speaker 3: told through science that we're on you know, we're cruising
Speaker 3: at sixty six thousand miles an hour and this never
Speaker 3: ending you know space, and it's just everything goes against
Speaker 3: what we are, what we see as a child, right,
Speaker 3: we actually believe that we're not spinning, we're not moving,
Speaker 3: we're stable. But then we're told as we get it,
Speaker 3: you know, into the education system, now this is what's
Speaker 3: really going on. Don't believe what you see, don't believe
Speaker 3: what you think, don't believe what you feel, believe what
Speaker 3: we tell you. And the psychological manipulation is so real.
Speaker 3: And one of the things for me that changed was
Speaker 3: I started, you know, going back and watching TV and
Speaker 3: movies and thinking, my goodness, there's a globe in every
Speaker 3: single episode and people sending me clips of this and
Speaker 3: it's mockery and it is really one of the biggest,
Speaker 3: you know, mind trips that's ever been played on on mankind,
Speaker 3: and it is such an important topic, but they have
Speaker 3: implemented it so well that people aren't willing to spend
Speaker 3: the time on it because they have been manipulated to
Speaker 3: believe that if you if if you are a quote
Speaker 3: unquote flat earther for lack of better words, that you're
Speaker 3: just a low iq nut job, right. That that's how
Speaker 3: big of a psychological event it is. It's ingrained in
Speaker 3: our mind since we are a child, and every day
Speaker 3: afterwards subliminally through uh, through music and video and television.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Now, what did well was a huge
Speaker 5: pleasant surprise to me is once I got the guts
Speaker 5: to start talking about this to people, I realized that
Speaker 5: they're there's a lot of us around that don't believe
Speaker 5: in the mythical globe eirth. I mean, there's a lot
Speaker 5: more people than I would have thought, and that just
Speaker 5: makes me so happy. And a lot of them are
Speaker 5: just realists. They're they're not you know, crazy down some
Speaker 5: rabbit hole for them like I am. They're just yeah,
Speaker 5: this made no sense to me, so I never believed it.
Speaker 5: Kind of people and they're they're out there and they're
Speaker 5: willing to to hear more about you know why, they're
Speaker 5: right as we talk, and it's just been great. I mean,
Speaker 5: this is you know, other pharmacists to people in healthcare,
Speaker 5: I mean, it's they're everywhere, so that that I mean,
Speaker 5: I try not to be embarrassed about this, but obviously
Speaker 5: I don't just flaunt it in and everywhere.
Speaker 3: Right, you don't work that says ask me about flat earth?
Speaker 5: Right right? Right?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: Maybe one day, but right now it's not it's not
Speaker 5: the time for this. But if someone asked me an
Speaker 5: honest question, I'm even be honest answer, just like even
Speaker 5: at work, if you know I'm supposed to to. I
Speaker 5: am a healthcare professional, but you know, we're a business first,
Speaker 5: and people don't like to say that, but as a
Speaker 5: pharmacy you're a businessman first, and then after that you
Speaker 5: care about people's health, and that that stucks. That's a
Speaker 5: huge conflict of interest, but that's how it is. And
Speaker 5: so even at work, if someone is picking up a
Speaker 5: numad that they've never taken and they asked me, you know,
Speaker 5: would you take this, I'm gonna answer them truthfully. I'm
Speaker 5: not just gonna spit out the numbers. Oh well, you know,
Speaker 5: the American Diabety Association says, I'm gonna tell them, no,
Speaker 5: I would not take this because ABCD. And then also,
Speaker 5: I think in most cases you can. You can do
Speaker 5: this if you adjust your diety bit, get some sun, exercise,
Speaker 5: eat non processed foods, try and lower stress, even though
Speaker 5: it's almost impossible nowadays, and I try my best to
Speaker 5: just let people think for themselves. The decision is yours.
Speaker 5: It's not your doctor's. Sure, I'm not I mean, I'm
Speaker 5: a doctor, I'm not an empty You're not an empty
Speaker 5: but you are a person who has free thinking, and
Speaker 5: you should make your own decision. Don't just go because
Speaker 5: someone said so. Don't even go because I said so.
Speaker 5: Do your own research. I try to give them some
Speaker 5: sources to look at things. Stanton's especially, man, they try
Speaker 5: to push stands like crazy, and they're so toxic. I've
Speaker 5: seen so many cases that people end up in the
Speaker 5: hospital from rab though from Stantons and dementia. And you know,
Speaker 5: I find out recently they don't even lower your bad LDLs.
Speaker 5: So LDL is consider you're a bad cholesterol, but there's
Speaker 5: actually more than one form of LDL And I was
Speaker 5: looking into some studies and the really bad form that
Speaker 5: latches on to your blood vessels when you have inflammation
Speaker 5: going on already, it is not touched by these statins.
Speaker 5: They stop the good form that your body makes mostly,
Speaker 5: So that's crazy to me that we're we're they don't
Speaker 5: even touch what's causing most of the problems. I don't
Speaker 5: know how we're allowed to sell this stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting if if you research stannyls and sterols
Speaker 3: on on like web md or any of these other sites,
Speaker 3: there is going to be a certain narrative that they
Speaker 3: push on it. And remember back in the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 3: you don't eat eggs, right because it was going to
Speaker 3: raise your cholesterol. Turns out it's one of the rapiest
Speaker 3: things you can eat.
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean your brain is like all cholesterol, yep.
Speaker 5: So you cut that out a lot and you will
Speaker 5: start getting confusion, depression, dementia. They tried to put my
Speaker 5: dad on a stand. He took it before I knew
Speaker 5: that he was on it, and he just got depressed
Speaker 5: and he lost his memory and once he stopped it
Speaker 5: all came back and now he's totally you know, against him.
Speaker 3: Oh, you said, Stanning.
Speaker 5: A. Stanton, I think it was a lipidor.
Speaker 3: I gotcha.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's it's It has made the job a
Speaker 5: bit harder, but at the same time, I try to
Speaker 5: be in a key position to where I can offer
Speaker 5: people some of what I feel is true and what
Speaker 5: I believe, without you know, telling him to go against anything.
Speaker 5: The doctor said, I'm not trying to do that. I'm
Speaker 5: just trying to get people to see that all that
Speaker 5: we're told is just one line of thinking coming from
Speaker 5: one place. There's there's other places you need to look
Speaker 5: before you decide. So sometimes I do feel guilty working
Speaker 5: in pharmacy, pushing these pills, but I try to just
Speaker 5: do good and best I can because it's all I know.
Speaker 2: What to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my daughter went through a time like that. She
Speaker 3: graduated high school and she went to pharmacy tech school.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: It was cost a few thousand dollars and got it
Speaker 3: and within the first week she experienced some certain things
Speaker 3: and it was the same thing. She got a memo
Speaker 3: basically like a chart sheet. You know, you offer, you know,
Speaker 3: vaccine aid to this person. If they say yes, obviously
Speaker 3: you know, you set them up for a vaccine. If
Speaker 3: they say no, then the line goes down. There's another box,
Speaker 3: ask what the you know. It's basically similar to a
Speaker 3: chart that a car salesman would have, you know, if
Speaker 3: you run into trouble, this is the avenue of approach
Speaker 3: you should take with these people. And she ended up
Speaker 3: getting out of the pharmacy, you know, being a pharmacy
Speaker 3: tech and she's doing fine now. She was frustrated at
Speaker 3: first because obviously you spend money and she went in
Speaker 3: with the same mindset, you know, but you know, it
Speaker 3: is very detrimental. For instance, if you go to lipotour
Speaker 3: and the side effects, there's like twenty some side effects
Speaker 3: from it, and they're even up front about it. If
Speaker 3: you watch these commercials on television, you know, it's fifteen
Speaker 3: seconds of happy person dancing and then the next forty
Speaker 3: five seconds are all the side effects. But they're quick
Speaker 3: to let you know, you know, don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: We've got something for that too. And me being in
Speaker 3: the military, that was something that they pushed on. As
Speaker 3: you feel and depressed. Here's a pill, you know, tour
Speaker 3: you know you got to torn meniscus. Take this tramadoll
Speaker 3: to get you through the rest of the deployment. They
Speaker 3: really push pills on us, when in fact they don't
Speaker 3: really And it goes right back to COVID right Fauci.
Speaker 3: How many times did you hear Fauci say, go out,
Speaker 3: get in the sun because the sun is the best
Speaker 3: source of itamin D. Get exercise. If you're healthier, if
Speaker 3: you do get sick, you have a better chance. Again,
Speaker 3: they're more about treating symptoms, which we know, you know,
Speaker 3: is money. That money brings power. And you know, I
Speaker 3: just do a podcast today on Larry Fink of Blackrock,
Speaker 3: so you know that's that's These people are owned by
Speaker 3: a very few corporations like Vanguard and Blackrock and all
Speaker 3: the big corporations who were forcing these mandates, Like I
Speaker 3: think it was Delta and many other big corporations. They
Speaker 3: were all in bed with Blackrock, just like the folks
Speaker 3: who were in bed with the big pharmaceuticals. So it's
Speaker 3: all tied together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. And going back to the commercials, I
Speaker 5: remember when we first moved to the US, we we
Speaker 5: thought it was crazy and hilarious, how of the commercials
Speaker 5: on TV or just drug commercials, And then it's just
Speaker 5: upside effects at the end, which would crack us up,
Speaker 5: you know, until we have found out how sad that
Speaker 5: actually is because everyone is on it. I mean, we
Speaker 5: went from a place where barely anyone took pills and
Speaker 5: meds and cancer were rared or for really you know,
Speaker 5: elderly folks, and then came over here and it's like
Speaker 5: a way of life almost. People kind of I don't know,
Speaker 5: I feel like they're wearing their diagnoses like badges almost
Speaker 5: like oh I got this and I got that. People
Speaker 5: just love to tell me that the council would do
Speaker 5: all the stuff they got and I'm thinking, that's that's
Speaker 5: not good. Let's work on this and that and that
Speaker 5: so you don't have all that stuff. But it's a
Speaker 5: mind Yeah, it is a mindset, definitely, and every year
Speaker 5: that a work, I see younger and younger people taking
Speaker 5: more and more drugs. It's insane the shift that is happening.
Speaker 5: The younger people tend to be on a lot of
Speaker 5: the mental mental anxiety drugs, and older people obviously that's
Speaker 5: also being added to what they already take. But we're
Speaker 5: also seeing blood pressure, cholestero all diabetes, and that's getting
Speaker 5: younger and younger because our food keeps getting worse, our
Speaker 5: sententary lifestyle gets worse, and everything's procruiting out babies more
Speaker 5: than ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the Actually, the next note I was
Speaker 3: going to get to was it really does bother me
Speaker 3: to see people putting their children on these mind all
Speaker 3: during drugs because their brain isn't even fully developed yet.
Speaker 3: And if you start putting chemicals in that can maybe
Speaker 3: deter the mental growth, if you will. I don't know
Speaker 3: the exact terminology for it. I don't. I think it's
Speaker 3: detrimental to the child.
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely. And we have a few doctors that we've
Speaker 5: just blocked. We've put a no fill at our store,
Speaker 5: and we just don't feel at all because we were
Speaker 5: getting four five year olds on antidepressants, antipsychotics, adderall, what
Speaker 5: are you doing? What doctor thinks that's okay unless the
Speaker 5: kid is legitimately completely violent for some reason, which I
Speaker 5: still I would like to see a case before. I
Speaker 5: believe that no one should be on these meds. And
Speaker 5: they were just coming out like crazy, and we just
Speaker 5: we called Home Office and told them we're not feeling
Speaker 5: and they were The good thing is they respect our decision.
Speaker 5: And so yeah, we've blacklisted a few doctors. But you still,
Speaker 5: you still see so many kids on quote unquote ADHD meds,
Speaker 5: And I wish I could just take the parents aside
Speaker 5: and just explain to them all the things that could
Speaker 5: cause the kids ADHD. You know, are they watching TV
Speaker 5: all day, already holding their phone all day, already playing outside?
Speaker 5: Do they take die food dies food dies that have
Speaker 5: a huge link to ADHD. Do they get recess in school?
Speaker 5: Do they get time to run around? You can't expect
Speaker 5: a kid to act like an adult. You just can't.
Speaker 5: I understand, you're busy, We're all busy. It's gonna be hard,
Speaker 5: but a kid is a huge responsibility. And yes, they're
Speaker 5: going to be inconveniences, but that's what parenting is. You
Speaker 5: cannot expect them to behave like an adult. You're breaking
Speaker 5: their mind and putting them on all these drugs. When
Speaker 5: they're kids, they're going to grow up and not know
Speaker 5: how to They're not going to have the capability to
Speaker 5: think outside the box. Especially with all the ADHD drugs.
Speaker 5: They force your blood in the brain to go to
Speaker 5: your frontal lobe and leave other areas. And that causes
Speaker 5: you to be a great worker bee because you really
Speaker 5: focus on one thing, you're great at that. But then
Speaker 5: you're critical thinking, your imagination it's kind of gone. And
Speaker 5: I guess that's what they want. They want us to
Speaker 5: just work and not think and not do things ourselves.
Speaker 5: So mission accomplished there.
Speaker 3: That's what Rockefeller said, I want a nation of workers,
Speaker 3: not thinkers. Well he's getting it absolutely. Let me ask
Speaker 3: you this question. We were most certainly in an information war,
Speaker 3: and obviously those with the money and those who own
Speaker 3: ninety six percent of the MSM and really control what
Speaker 3: goes out to the masses and what does not. How
Speaker 3: do we spread the word with things that are vitally important,
Speaker 3: you know, like these COVID back scenes, which I do
Speaker 3: think a lot of people are waking up to, but
Speaker 3: they still think that all the other ones are okay,
Speaker 3: are just fine, and you know, maybe they don't or
Speaker 3: won't take the time to research other things that are
Speaker 3: vitally important. Flat Earth was important because I realized if
Speaker 3: you could lie about that, then everything else is in play,
Speaker 3: which forces you to do research on everything before you
Speaker 3: make a decision, no matter how trivial it may be.
Speaker 3: So the question is, how can we do a better
Speaker 3: job of getting the information out to the masses when
Speaker 3: we're up against you know, such an evil you know entity,
Speaker 3: if you will.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's going to be different answers to
Speaker 5: different people with different personalities and gifts. A lot of
Speaker 5: people are doing a great job on social media. I'm
Speaker 5: not a social media person. If anything I put on there,
Speaker 5: my job is going to be looking on So I'm
Speaker 5: just completely unplugged that way. So, yes, there's definitely right
Speaker 5: way to do it on social media. But the way
Speaker 5: we do it is just the people we love, the
Speaker 5: people that have known us for a while, that's where
Speaker 5: we start. They know we're not crazy, to know we're
Speaker 5: not mad or we're out to get anyone. If we've
Speaker 5: stumbled upon something we think is important, they're probably going
Speaker 5: to think twice about it before dismissing it. And so
Speaker 5: we just try to get close to people and then
Speaker 5: just slowly throwing a bone here and there, and if
Speaker 5: they're interested, that's fine. If not, they're not, but we
Speaker 5: let them know where we stand and just try not
Speaker 5: to get emotionally heated up. It used to be very easy.
Speaker 5: It's getting a bit harder me. It used to be
Speaker 5: very easy for me to lose my temper when I
Speaker 5: get really emotional. I just get so passionate. But it
Speaker 5: doesn't help anyone. So I'm really working on just presenting
Speaker 5: facts and being calm. Even if I'm called James, just
Speaker 5: just fine. I was there. I was worse than that person.
Speaker 5: So to me, it's a slow, loving way till people
Speaker 5: close to you. And I mean, I've already seen quite
Speaker 5: a bit of propagation and it's it's wonderful. I mean, sure,
Speaker 5: I'm not changing the world with just a few people
Speaker 5: in my life, but some people are doing it a
Speaker 5: great job. I have a Flat Earth Days app. I
Speaker 5: watched the video you post every morning and there's a
Speaker 5: lot of people getting connected there. So yeah, I think
Speaker 5: everyone can can do their part, whatever gifts they have. However,
Speaker 5: God bless them what they're comfortable with. But definitely I don't.
Speaker 5: I'm not for the negativity. I don't think I think
Speaker 5: there's a lot enough negativity everywhere. I'm not going to
Speaker 5: try and to tax someone called someone stupid. It's not
Speaker 5: the right way to do it, because that's how we
Speaker 5: used to be on the other side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'll just chase them away quicker. They won't
Speaker 3: listen at all.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, no one wants that. No one wants just a
Speaker 5: chat fight.
Speaker 3: But you have had some success within your family. I
Speaker 3: think you had said that most of your family now
Speaker 3: believes in the biblical flatter.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I'll say half the most for a larger family.
Speaker 5: But yeah, there's a couple people that I know are
Speaker 5: one hundred percent on board. There's a few that are
Speaker 5: still thinking about it on their journey. And then there's
Speaker 5: a bit of resistance from a couple, which again I
Speaker 5: totally understand.
Speaker 6: I was there too.
Speaker 5: I'm just praying that everyone eventually gets to see the truth.
Speaker 5: And again, my whole family, we're all we're all say,
Speaker 5: we're all Christians. I know where we're going after we die.
Speaker 5: That's fine. So it's not a battle for the souls.
Speaker 5: But I feel like, again, if something this big is
Speaker 5: happening against God's creation, and we should know as Christians
Speaker 5: something is going on, God is right there, right above us.
Speaker 5: I mean, I understand that even when I thought we
Speaker 5: were in this giant, expanding universe, that God was still
Speaker 5: personal and he's still there. But now he's physically there.
Speaker 5: That changed my relationship with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really You know, you understand why people look
Speaker 3: up when they pray, right, it's not right for no reason.
Speaker 3: It's because we're looking up and talking to God.
Speaker 5: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: And how how about your church? Have you ever had
Speaker 3: any maybe offline conversations with people you go to church with?
Speaker 3: Have you have you tested those waters yet?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: Not yet.
Speaker 5: We we've recently moved, so we're still new to the church.
Speaker 3: And anybody, I'm Sam, you want to talk about flat earth, right.
Speaker 5: Sam, anti vaxer, flatirth or conspiracy theorists.
Speaker 3: Well, hopefully you know, down the road, when you get
Speaker 3: comfortable and get to know everybody, maybe it'll come up
Speaker 3: in the in a form of a casual conversation.
Speaker 5: I hope, so, I'm sure it will eventually.
Speaker 3: I have some notes I wanted to go back and
Speaker 3: ask it. You originally are from Lebanon, and Lebanon has
Speaker 3: gone through some difficult times right now. Do you still
Speaker 3: have family over there?
Speaker 5: I do. I've got I've got my grandmother, and I've
Speaker 5: got a few cousins, uncles and aunt. We're praying for them,
Speaker 5: We're worried about them. They've been through a lot of
Speaker 5: waves of war like this before. Neither of them are
Speaker 5: a mere citizens, so they're not going to be evacuated.
Speaker 5: They are all Canadian citizens. So I don't know Ifghana's
Speaker 5: going to do waiting to help, but they have a
Speaker 5: place to go if they managed to leave. The problem is,
Speaker 5: whenever war catches up to love and On, it's always
Speaker 5: the doc and the airport that go first, so you
Speaker 5: get traps.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, I just read. I think maybe it was
Speaker 3: yesterday or even today that the US were ready to
Speaker 3: do an evacuation that was equal to what we saw
Speaker 3: in Saigon in Afghanistan.
Speaker 5: Yes, I saw that too. Yeah, interesting thing. I was
Speaker 5: actually on the last evacuation that the US did to
Speaker 5: Love it On back in two thousand and six.
Speaker 3: Okay, what was that was that experience?
Speaker 5: Like it wasn't as bad as you would well, mean,
Speaker 5: you probably know, but as an average person in the US,
Speaker 5: it's not as bad as they would think, just because
Speaker 5: Israel was targeting certain areas of the country for most
Speaker 5: of the so we knew at least we were safe.
Speaker 5: It was insane with the whole explosions constantly. I mean
Speaker 5: some of them were We're bad enough that some glass shattered,
Speaker 5: but it was more of a low tone anxiety, not
Speaker 5: a panic. But then at the end they just started
Speaker 5: bombing everything and extremely uncalled for it, because I understand
Speaker 5: them trying to get his ball at places, but bombing bridges.
Speaker 5: My dad owned a paper mill. He had to shut
Speaker 5: it down through all the lights off, hoping that they
Speaker 5: wouldn't see it at night, you know, or not think
Speaker 5: of it as a target of interest. Because they they
Speaker 5: bombed a lot of factories, a lot of I think
Speaker 5: we didn't have liquid milk had to go back to
Speaker 5: powdered milk for a couple of years after that because
Speaker 5: they just bombed whatever it's called the milk factory or
Speaker 5: something it was. It wasn't fun, It wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 5: absolutely horrifying. The evacuation itself was pretty terrible because they
Speaker 5: put us on battleship and took us to Cypress and
Speaker 5: we had to spend the night on the street. I'm
Speaker 5: just good, sleeping on our luggage waiting for the plane
Speaker 5: to land because the plane that was gonna take us
Speaker 5: wasn't ready, so it was just in the summer hot,
Speaker 5: you know, stinky again, nothing crazy, just we're exhausted. And
Speaker 5: then once we got to Baltimore's where the plane landed,
Speaker 5: the US gave us a wonderful welcome, so I really
Speaker 5: appreciate that there were places to rest, food, everything. And
Speaker 5: then everyone was constantly going and I was still I
Speaker 5: was sixteen, so technically a kid. My sisters and my
Speaker 5: little brother were kids, so they had all these social
Speaker 5: workers falling us around asking if we're okay, and we
Speaker 5: didn't know why they were doing that because we were like, oh,
Speaker 5: it's not that bad, it's okay. But some people did
Speaker 5: actually go through a lot back then. It's definitely a memory.
Speaker 5: It wasn't traumatizing though.
Speaker 3: It's really interesting when I'm listening to you tell the story,
Speaker 3: and you know, many of the people listening to this
Speaker 3: podcast are from the United States, this is something they've
Speaker 3: never really experienced before. I've been to areas in the
Speaker 3: world like the Balkans, Sarajevo, that area, and then of
Speaker 3: course the Middle East where people have lived much of
Speaker 3: their life through bombings and gunfire, where it is the norm.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of people here in the United
Speaker 3: States who are brought into politics and they say, you know,
Speaker 3: if PERSONA doesn't win, it's war. People really don't understand
Speaker 3: what it's really all about. And to hear you talk
Speaker 3: about it and to hear how it almost was a
Speaker 3: norm in your life should really wake people up and
Speaker 3: appreciate what we have.
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, and that's something I still steel after being
Speaker 5: here for to spend like fifteen years now. Definitely want
Speaker 5: to tell so many people you have no idea what
Speaker 5: you have. Yes, we're heading very fast in the wrong direction.
Speaker 5: We need to pull the brakes and turn around. But
Speaker 5: you still need to be thankful every day for what
Speaker 5: you have here, because you know, things blowing up being normal,
Speaker 5: that's way worse than what we have here. We've had, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, you just never knew sometimes it'd be dumpster
Speaker 5: explosions in your high school or in a kids park.
Speaker 5: We never we didn't live in fear, but we always
Speaker 5: knew that something could happen if you went in the
Speaker 5: wrong place. Also, you know, most of us in the US,
Speaker 5: we've got power all the time, and we've got water.
Speaker 5: I mean, when Al grew up, we had a few
Speaker 5: summers where we had to fill our one of the
Speaker 5: two bathtubs we had with water, and that was the
Speaker 5: allotted water for us for the summer to shower because
Speaker 5: we had no water because it doesn't rain in the
Speaker 5: summer in Love. And then for power, the government only
Speaker 5: gave us six sometimes ten hours of power a day.
Speaker 5: You had to pay someone with a generator for the
Speaker 5: rest of that. But we have so much in the
Speaker 5: US that we should be thankful for. It's a life
Speaker 5: of luxury. It's getting harder, but it's it's still a
Speaker 5: life of luxury.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you one more question, and it's
Speaker 3: not exactly flatter directed, but I just feel like I
Speaker 3: wanted to ask it to you. I know you were
Speaker 3: younger at the time, but I'm semi personally invested in
Speaker 3: what happened had ben Ghazi. What was your or maybe
Speaker 3: your family's thoughts on what happened with Gadafi and Libya.
Speaker 7: Or was that?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Yeah, I wish I could give you a
Speaker 5: great answer, but I was just not yet into any
Speaker 5: of this. So I just watched a few clipes and
Speaker 5: had absolutely no idea what was really happening.
Speaker 3: Okay, no problem at I just thought I'd throw it
Speaker 3: out there. What else did I have? Education systems? So
Speaker 3: you have a young one, it's going to be you know,
Speaker 3: school agent a few years, have you guys begin to
Speaker 3: thought about homeschooling, private school, public school?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: One hundred percent of homeschooling.
Speaker 3: That's fantastic.
Speaker 5: At least we're hoping, you know, if if we get
Speaker 5: to a point where we know that the kids have
Speaker 5: what they need and it's really really not working for
Speaker 5: them when they're older, then we might think of maybe
Speaker 5: if we can afford to private school or really really
Speaker 5: good public school. But you know, the plying is to
Speaker 5: just just homeschool. I don't trust anything that's happening there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I think, you know, I think we're in
Speaker 3: that ninety day window for election time, and you just
Speaker 3: get that feeling, you know, what, what are they going
Speaker 3: to throw at us next?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Are there? Are they going to have monkey pox at
Speaker 3: us or another you know, big election, you know, to
Speaker 3: get people arguing against each other another January sixth, or
Speaker 3: is it? Are they going to pull the war plug
Speaker 3: on us? There's so much you know, the world's really
Speaker 3: a tinderbox right now with the Israel Iran Isabola, and
Speaker 3: then Russia, Ukraine and even in Serbia down there again.
Speaker 3: All this stuff is really the world is a tinderbox.
Speaker 3: And that's why it's more important forever. Like you said,
Speaker 3: having faith in Jesus Christ, that that is our eternal salvation,
Speaker 3: and that's what people really need to focus.
Speaker 5: On, absolutely, because that's the only unchanging thing. Everything that
Speaker 5: we can latch onto here that gives us comfort can
Speaker 5: be gone instantly in this world. But the only thing
Speaker 5: that will not change is Christ. And so if that's
Speaker 5: where your comfort is, then no matter what happens, the
Speaker 5: ending is the same. And you're fine.
Speaker 3: Amen to that. Did you have any other bullet points
Speaker 3: that you wanted to discuss talk about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't talk much about flat Earth, did we know?
Speaker 3: Oh that's what I meant to ask you. You know
Speaker 3: your bullets or you know your magic bullets for flatter
Speaker 3: If you're in an elevator with somebody for sixty seconds
Speaker 3: and you have an opportunity to discuss or convince them
Speaker 3: whatever term you may use for flat Earth, What particular
Speaker 3: things would you point out to get them researching.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think first I would go with the
Speaker 5: what I told you about the atmosphere about I've never
Speaker 5: seen a fluid and a solid move at the same time.
Speaker 5: There's going to be different drag on them, and so
Speaker 5: just get them to start thinking about how are you
Speaker 5: getting the air to stick exactly to the Earth spin
Speaker 5: at the same speed and not just have it drag that.
Speaker 5: That would be my start too, would be if you
Speaker 5: look over the horizon and you see your classic ship
Speaker 5: or whatever vanishing, why can you bring it back when
Speaker 5: you zoom in? I mean, the zoom function doesn't show
Speaker 5: you what's over the curve. It just brings something that
Speaker 5: you can't see closer. So it's obviously still there. It's
Speaker 5: on the same plane as you, and you can do
Speaker 5: it over and over. Sure, some weather phenomena or moisture
Speaker 5: levels might change it cause a bit of refraction, but
Speaker 5: you can't just stow refraction at everything. I'm so sick
Speaker 5: of people just refraction refraction refraction. The moonlight tests is
Speaker 5: a great one because I did it so many times.
Speaker 5: I have all the evidence on my phone. I can
Speaker 5: just send it to them. Here. I'm gonna send you
Speaker 5: some videos of multiple types of material I've put in
Speaker 5: different places, and I can show you that there's a
Speaker 5: three to five degree sometimes nine difference in the temperature
Speaker 5: under the moon and right next to it, just a
Speaker 5: foot away in the shape. So you can't tell me, Oh,
Speaker 5: it's because it's in the shade. The heat's not disciplining. No,
Speaker 5: it's just a foot away and the moon is a
Speaker 5: colder light. Let's see there's a couple more. Oh. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Water curving is crazy to me. I mean I understand
Speaker 5: you can maybe think, oh, if you just zoom in,
Speaker 5: it's one atom at a time and eventually it will curve. Well,
Speaker 5: the Earth is not that big, so you can't go
Speaker 5: for that. We're talking about quite a bit of water
Speaker 5: having to bend, and it would be if it's the
Speaker 5: water that I know, it would be constantly struggling to
Speaker 5: find its level. We'd have crazy waves constantly killing us
Speaker 5: all because it's trying to level and it can't. On
Speaker 5: this mythical ball, the stars always being in the exact
Speaker 5: same place, and we're supposedly moving everywhere. That absolutely makes
Speaker 5: no sense to me. And what was that last one?
Speaker 5: I was just thinking of. I forgot the last one.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of the Bible ones too, for Christians especially,
Speaker 5: you know, I pull a lot of Genesis, a lot
Speaker 5: of revelation. Joshua was a huge one. And the sun
Speaker 5: dial of who was it? Somehow? A has I think?
Speaker 5: And one of the books where the shadow went back
Speaker 5: to degrees that the Earth cannot spin backwards, we would
Speaker 5: all die. So it was definitely the Sun that moved.
Speaker 5: And then when Joshua asked the Sun to stop, why
Speaker 5: did he also ask the moon to stop? Because they're
Speaker 5: in a cycle, jos otherwise, right, yeah, and and and
Speaker 5: he tells you where the moon stopped, over a certain
Speaker 5: valley where the sun stopped. That's crazy. And if as
Speaker 5: a young Earth believer, how do you believe the stars
Speaker 5: are this far away? Light? Would take millions of years
Speaker 5: to get those absolutely, so that that's an oxymoron right there.
Speaker 5: And once you find the connection about like the perfect
Speaker 5: triad of like the Big Bang, the earth ball, and evolution,
Speaker 5: how well they all fit together, you see that it's
Speaker 5: it's just three pieces of the puzzle. You can't have
Speaker 5: one without the other. You've to push all of them aside.
Speaker 5: They're all faults.
Speaker 3: You would mentioned water curving, but even for me as
Speaker 3: a youngster, and that was interesting in hindsight. You know,
Speaker 3: hindsight's always twenty twenty. But some of the things just
Speaker 3: never made sense to me. And one of them was
Speaker 3: water sticking to a ball. It just you know, if
Speaker 3: it's spinning so fast that it's able to hold trillions
Speaker 3: of pounds of water, how in the world are the
Speaker 3: clouds and everything else able to just float seamlessly throughout
Speaker 3: the atmosphere? How are we able to jump? You know,
Speaker 3: all of these things. If it was really, if gravity
Speaker 3: was that strong to hold that much water, it's just
Speaker 3: an incredible amount of weight. The oceans are right, the
Speaker 3: Pacific Ocean, one part of it has a depth of
Speaker 3: I think seventy five hundred feet. Can you imagine how
Speaker 3: much that weighs and for it to curve and stick
Speaker 3: to a ball again, at some point we need to
Speaker 3: use our eyes and our ears and what we feel
Speaker 3: versus you know what somebody you know who has a
Speaker 3: PhD at the end of the name.
Speaker 5: Tells us, right, And I also I remember asking one
Speaker 5: of the teachers in school, because yeah, I also had
Speaker 5: a lot of questions about the Earth as a kid.
Speaker 5: Why doesn't gravity increase when we go into a deep mind?
Speaker 5: I mean, there are some really deep mind where people
Speaker 5: can go. You're a weight should increase like crazy if
Speaker 5: you're going towards the center of gravity, but it doesn't.
Speaker 5: And if you're up on a really high mountain, it
Speaker 5: should decrease quite a bit, and it doesn't. And to
Speaker 5: my knowledge, people weigh the same everywhere. And I used
Speaker 5: to have terrible motion sickness as a kid, and I
Speaker 5: would freak out that, you know, one day I'm going
Speaker 5: to feel the Earth moving and just be nauseous all
Speaker 5: the time. And if there's never any feeling of the
Speaker 5: earth movement, And I always wondered, how on Earth is
Speaker 5: it spinning if I can't feel it. I mean, spin
Speaker 5: is a type of acceleration. It's not speeding or slowing,
Speaker 5: but it's still You would feel it if you are
Speaker 5: in a car and you just move it a little
Speaker 5: bit in a circle, even if it's insanely slow, you
Speaker 5: will feel it that you are moving. And we're supposedly
Speaker 5: not just constantly in a circular change of course that
Speaker 5: we should feel, but we're speeding up to catch up
Speaker 5: to the sun and then we're slowing down, so there's
Speaker 5: constantly exploration deceleration happening and we can't feel it. That's nonsense.
Speaker 3: And something for me once I started to realize if
Speaker 3: you put something into Google, which is very much controlled
Speaker 3: by the powers that be, if you will, if you
Speaker 3: put something in there, it's going to, you know, list
Speaker 3: things that it wants you to research. And again, if
Speaker 3: you just put flat Earth, you'll see the words archaic
Speaker 3: thinking from scientific American flat earthers. Why believe what they
Speaker 3: believe in? Why fighting flat earth theory? All of these things?
Speaker 3: It is once again for someone they're hoping that someone
Speaker 3: who maybe comes across it, whether it be a Joe
Speaker 3: Rogan interview or an old one, or maybe they just
Speaker 3: happen to come across this podcast. You know that if
Speaker 3: they research for a few seconds, they'll look at it
Speaker 3: and think, oh, why did I even boy to look
Speaker 3: into that. That's just ridiculous, right Yeah.
Speaker 5: And they almost got me because when I was still
Speaker 5: waking up to flat Earth and I went to doctor
Speaker 5: Google and the Flat Earth Society came up and you
Speaker 5: know where I'm going with this style.
Speaker 3: I saw what you know.
Speaker 5: It was just close enough to have in some truths
Speaker 5: where you're like, okay, so they know what's going on,
Speaker 5: and then you see the acceleration model that they have
Speaker 5: and you're like, this is absolute nonsense. I went from
Speaker 5: not believing we're moving to we're infinitely speeding upwards. What
Speaker 5: is going on? And it just it kind of stopped
Speaker 5: the whole research for a while, and I just went, Okay, okay,
Speaker 5: well obviously I don't know what's going on here, and
Speaker 5: I just went back to believing the Earth was a
Speaker 5: globe for a bit, and then I brought back So
Speaker 5: it did work, and it worked on a lot of people.
Speaker 5: And it's really crazy and annoying that that's what Google
Speaker 5: shoves in your face. But it's all planned absolutely.
Speaker 3: Now, you had mentioned the the sixteen flight paths that
Speaker 3: emergency landing spared me that proved flat Earth. Were there
Speaker 3: any other key things that you came across that really
Speaker 3: put you over the top to understand that the ball
Speaker 3: is a lie? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I got There is a lot of different books. I
Speaker 5: don't want to do anyone just since why not remembering
Speaker 5: for some reason. I remember Eric Dubay's name because I
Speaker 5: saw some of his videos. But there was a lot
Speaker 5: of books from Christian authors about the subject that I saw.
Speaker 5: I read. I think it was The Technic Astronomy by
Speaker 5: is it Robot Them Yep, yep, Yeah, So read his
Speaker 5: stuff too, and just there's a lot one hundred proofs,
Speaker 5: two hundred proofs. There was actually a good YouTube compilation
Speaker 5: that was called like Best of Flat Earth, and it
Speaker 5: was about six hours. I mean after that, it was
Speaker 5: essentially sealed for me with that Blessed the Bible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those books from the eighteen hundreds, Robot Thom's book,
Speaker 3: and I think William Carpenter's was the one one hundred proofs.
Speaker 3: And then there was an author recently, I think within
Speaker 3: the last five years. I bought her book off of Amazon,
Speaker 3: which is the two hundred Bible Verses that prove flatter.
Speaker 3: That's that's a pretty handy tool as well.
Speaker 5: Oh, I'll look into that definitely.
Speaker 3: I'll see if I can find the link and put
Speaker 3: it on there. Let me write a note, let me
Speaker 3: ask you this, how did you come across this podcast?
Speaker 5: It was my wife against she I was I was
Speaker 5: at work sleeping away one day and she just texted
Speaker 5: me and she's like, hey, look I found this because
Speaker 5: at that point we were desperate to reach out and
Speaker 5: just find like miney peop because we felt so alone suddenly,
Speaker 5: and yeah, your podcast popped up when she searched on
Speaker 5: it on Apple Podcasts and yeah, we've we've I think
Speaker 5: it's like been two years now until we caught everything up.
Speaker 5: And now I'm binging the fact Hunter as well.
Speaker 3: Nice. So, yeah, that's awesome. What other questions do I have?
Speaker 3: The moon landing? Where in did you disprove the moon
Speaker 3: landing before you got the flat earth or was it simultaneous.
Speaker 5: The Yeah, the moon landing was disproved before the flat Earth.
Speaker 5: It was close, but it definitely had to happen for
Speaker 5: me to start thinking, Okay, well this is huge. This
Speaker 5: is the best thing we supposedly did, like you said,
Speaker 5: and it's a fake. And once I saw there was
Speaker 5: a lot of videos showing a few you know, cut
Speaker 5: out areas the the edit that they did. I think
Speaker 5: when Nixon was talking supposedly talking to them on the
Speaker 5: Moon and there was no gap in time, and then
Speaker 5: they just added that gap. It's crazy hearing some people.
Speaker 5: I think a few whistleblowers mentioned that they were working
Speaker 5: there and they saw the concrete being poured there. I
Speaker 5: think there they've passed now. But I've seen a lot
Speaker 5: of videos like that, and then actually seeing the footage
Speaker 5: against especially like you said, having it take off at
Speaker 5: the end, and it's just like a Skittle's commercial, and like,
Speaker 5: what is going on there? And really what struck me
Speaker 5: is I never thought about this. But and again I
Speaker 5: might be missing something in science, but I don't think
Speaker 5: a rocket could rise slowly, right. You've got to really
Speaker 5: go up fast. Like if you look at the ball
Speaker 5: of rocket and fireworks, it shoots up fast. So the
Speaker 5: whole idea that it's just pushing off the ground, I
Speaker 5: don't think that works. I think it's supposed to just
Speaker 5: shoot up and then lose its momentum, and that's how
Speaker 5: it works. I might be wrong there, but that just
Speaker 5: watching it slowly. Your ese made no sense to me.
Speaker 3: I would help if I mute myself. I had two
Speaker 3: notes left. This is what I wanted to ask you,
Speaker 3: because we're already talking about NASA basically with the rockets,
Speaker 3: et cetera. I would say maybe five percent of the
Speaker 3: people truly believe that flat Earth. Now, I think that's
Speaker 3: probably accurate if you asked one hundred people. Maybe a
Speaker 3: little higher than that. I don't know, but I think
Speaker 3: there's a lot more people, at least fifty percent, who
Speaker 3: believe that the moon landing was a hoax. And if
Speaker 3: you look at how much money, I think it's seventy
Speaker 3: million dollars every single day that NASA gets. And I think,
Speaker 3: now there's a story or some type of narrative that
Speaker 3: there's two astronauts out there stranded on the ISS and
Speaker 3: Boeing's got to fix this, and it's almost like an
Speaker 3: Apollo thirteen, like trying to get people emotionally invested again.
Speaker 5: Well, they have to. They always have to grab us back.
Speaker 5: I mean, they need that money, and it frustrates me
Speaker 5: so much. We're all working so hard, everything is getting
Speaker 5: so much more expensive, and they're just taking all that
Speaker 5: money and pumping it into who knows what. Sure part
Speaker 5: of it's the lie, but you know they're not using
Speaker 5: all those billions in the charade because the technology they
Speaker 5: show us, the videos they're terrible, they're absolutely terrible. So
Speaker 5: the money's going somewhere else. I don't know what they're
Speaker 5: doing with it, but it's just frustrating. People are slaving away,
Speaker 5: trying to put food on their table, and through taxes,
Speaker 5: they're just sucking our money and giving it to things
Speaker 5: like NASA or every country that's not the US that
Speaker 5: we supposedly have to help.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can assure you whatever that black I call
Speaker 3: it black funds or whatever, black funds are being siphoned
Speaker 3: off at that seventy million dollars a day, it's not
Speaker 3: being used to help us, that's for sure.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, it's not.
Speaker 3: How do you think imagine being Neil Armstrong and those
Speaker 3: guys knowing that, you know, the greatest accomplishment of mankind
Speaker 3: was a lie? How do you think? How was it
Speaker 3: trying to live with yourself? Obviously there's still I think
Speaker 3: Buzz is still with us, But man, could you imagine
Speaker 3: having to live with that lie?
Speaker 5: No, I honestly can't. I can't imagine anything. I would
Speaker 5: have to be a different person, I guess. But I
Speaker 5: feel like most of us shouldn't be able to do
Speaker 5: something like that knowing not only that you were if
Speaker 5: it was just a lie, that's one thing, But you're
Speaker 5: sucking these people's the hard work hard earned dollars as well.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I don't know how they I don't know.
Speaker 5: I would have probably offered myself to make it stop.
Speaker 3: Well, in a way I think Neil did. I mean,
Speaker 3: he drank himself to death in a matter of words,
Speaker 3: he really did, and that's probably how he dealt with it.
Speaker 3: And if these guys believed up until the time it
Speaker 3: air quote took off and they were forced to lie,
Speaker 3: I feel bad for them. But if they were part
Speaker 3: of the lie, which let's face it, these guys are freemasons,
Speaker 3: they probably were part of it because they're in on
Speaker 3: everything like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I tend to lean towards they were they were
Speaker 5: in on it. If not, I definitely feel bad for them.
Speaker 5: But I just don't see how they.
Speaker 3: Could not be agreed that they would.
Speaker 5: Plus, you've got you've got aldri and leaking all kinds
Speaker 5: of stuff in his old age, So I don't I
Speaker 5: don't know if he's losing them or if it's remorse
Speaker 5: or what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that little the interview with that little girl, but
Speaker 3: you could tell it was on the tip of his
Speaker 3: tongue and he was about to say something. He probably
Speaker 3: looked out of the corner of his eye and saw
Speaker 3: a guy in a black suit and black glasses kind
Speaker 3: of look at him. He's like, oh, I better, I
Speaker 3: better stop now. But you know you had mentioned a
Speaker 3: funny thing on the way to the Moon, which was
Speaker 3: I feel so bad. What is his name? I had
Speaker 3: him on the show Bart. What is his name? But
Speaker 3: but he's the same guy who went to interview Bart's
Speaker 3: sidell I think his name was. He was the one
Speaker 3: that interviewed one of the other astronauts, and you could
Speaker 3: he left the microphone inside Bart Sebrel thank you. That's
Speaker 3: what his name is, and you could hear the son.
Speaker 3: The son was there with a father who said, uh,
Speaker 3: do you want me to call the CIA?
Speaker 5: Right? Who says that right exactly?
Speaker 3: If he really wasn't an astronaut's gone wild that that's
Speaker 3: a good video as well. I recommend his website, I
Speaker 3: think is Cybrel dot com. So check him out. We
Speaker 3: had him on Oh GEZ a year and a half ago.
Speaker 3: He's put a lot of his work into NASA, but
Speaker 3: I don't think I haven't checked on his website. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm not sure he's come full all the way around
Speaker 3: to realize what that lie really means. As far as
Speaker 3: you know, biblical flat earth.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I really do appreciate all that he did.
Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of his videos. Likewise, he did
Speaker 5: put himself at risk there. But yeah, having someone say
Speaker 5: you want me to call the CIA is just crazy
Speaker 5: to me. I Mean, no one says that, I'm unless
Speaker 5: you're actually going to call the CIA, right So, And there's.
Speaker 3: A reason why why would why would you call the
Speaker 3: CI just because some guy, like if you really went
Speaker 3: to the moon, you would laugh them off as a joke,
Speaker 3: like what an idiot this guy is. But obviously they
Speaker 3: were very concerned that they were being found out and
Speaker 3: that their next thing was do we call the CI
Speaker 3: and have this guy rubbed out? But lucky for him,
Speaker 3: he was already part of a major He worked for
Speaker 3: ABC for years and had already made a name for himself.
Speaker 3: So he is lucky. Honestly, he's truly lucky that because
Speaker 3: so many other whistleblowers, if you will, have gone you know,
Speaker 3: they've taken a worse route.
Speaker 5: Right right, yeah, and end up getting you know, shot
Speaker 5: in the chest after they hung themselves exactly.
Speaker 3: They've been Clinton.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, having so many people start to wake
Speaker 5: up it's wonderful, but it also it's kind of scary
Speaker 5: because what are they gonna do about it? You know,
Speaker 5: you're always thinking, okay, well, if it starts getting out
Speaker 5: of hand, they've got to play a card that it's
Speaker 5: got to be so good that it brings people back.
Speaker 5: It's really hard. I mean, I don't know if it
Speaker 5: ever happens. When you wake up to biblical flat earth,
Speaker 5: I don't think you can come back. Nope, So what
Speaker 5: are they gonna do? It kind of scares me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure. You know, anytime they implement a plan,
Speaker 3: whether it be COVID nine to eleven or even lesser things,
Speaker 3: they have probably at least four or five alternatives. So okay,
Speaker 3: so if they don't buy it, we go this way.
Speaker 3: If they do buy it, we continue on. If that
Speaker 3: doesn't work, then plans. See is this like, they probably
Speaker 3: have five plans in place, and knowing that one of
Speaker 3: them is going to come through, unfortunately, probably each one
Speaker 3: is worse and worse. Listen, people don't ever peacefully give
Speaker 3: up their power and the power that these people have
Speaker 3: on the earth today. And we're talking the Black Rock,
Speaker 3: the Vanguards, the Rockefellers, Roth childs is a power that
Speaker 3: we've never seen before or maybe since, who knows, right,
Speaker 3: but they will go to the ends of the earth
Speaker 3: to make sure that they never give up the power
Speaker 3: they have. And it's sad because again, you have about
Speaker 3: zero point zero five percent of the population that owns
Speaker 3: ninety nine point five percent of the wealth and the
Speaker 3: land of this world. Right, we buy our house, we
Speaker 3: pay off from mortgage, we don't really and truly own
Speaker 3: that land. We still have property taxes to pay and
Speaker 3: if you don't pay that, you're going to lose your
Speaker 3: home and that property. So it is very much a
Speaker 3: shell game that we buy into. But like you say,
Speaker 3: waking up, whether it be flat earth and everything else,
Speaker 3: kind of falls into place. You learn to figure out
Speaker 3: the matrix and you do play the game a little differently.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's it's really easy to start getting overwhelmed
Speaker 5: by how many wrong things are happening around you and
Speaker 5: how quote unquote powerless you are, and you really got
Speaker 5: to not go there, just tiptoe back. God is still
Speaker 5: in control whatever's happening, He's allowing it to happen. My
Speaker 5: wife and I just we're just trying to live a
Speaker 5: content quiet life. We definitely want to know the truth.
Speaker 5: You want to spread it, but we're trying to just
Speaker 5: I feel like live how God wants us to live.
Speaker 5: We've got some chickens now, we've got some gardens and
Speaker 5: the yard going on. We downside to a small house
Speaker 5: in the mountains, and you just go out there and
Speaker 5: you when I come from this day of work, I
Speaker 5: got to water the plants or just go check on
Speaker 5: the chickens or the bunnies. I mean, the piece that
Speaker 5: you feel like this is what we should be doing,
Speaker 5: is touching the dirt, picking fresh fruit off the soil,
Speaker 5: talking to my chickens. Just it's it's wonderful. It's just
Speaker 5: it's good to remember that, you know, you can have
Speaker 5: your little paradise bubble while you're not trapping yourself in it.
Speaker 5: Just strive to live that quiet life. And yeah, don't
Speaker 5: don't put your head in the fand absolutely not. But
Speaker 5: don't let the negativity take over. It's not worth it.
Speaker 5: Don't let them take what we have more than what
Speaker 5: they're taking already.
Speaker 3: Chickens are amazing creatures that have you started to get
Speaker 3: eggs yet?
Speaker 5: No, so they're about four months old. We're still one
Speaker 5: of two months away. I can't wait.
Speaker 3: You're very cool. Yeah. I think for us, we got
Speaker 3: our first batch in August of twenty one, and I
Speaker 3: think right around Christmas we got our first one, so
Speaker 3: maybe four and a half months.
Speaker 5: Oh nice, Okay, we might be there then. I know
Speaker 5: they're wattles and their combes were starting to come in.
Speaker 5: That usually means they're about ready.
Speaker 3: Yep, they're so wellesome. We talked to them too, and
Speaker 3: they're they're just part of the family. Watching them interact
Speaker 3: with each other and have arguments, it's hilarious.
Speaker 5: That they are. They're so funny. We tried to this
Speaker 5: story so sad we we got duck links too, because
Speaker 5: we wanted a couple of ducks too. They're great at
Speaker 5: eating mosquitos, and you know, duck eggs are wonderful. But
Speaker 5: the raccoons won the war and they killed them all,
Speaker 5: so we know we learned what not to do. If
Speaker 5: we do this again, it's experience.
Speaker 3: And then do you have for meat as well?
Speaker 5: So right now I just have some females and they're
Speaker 5: just there to eat the weeds and fertilize. I mean,
Speaker 5: rabbit poop is so amazing. You don't have to compost it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, rabbit poop is gold for sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so there. I mean, the trick is to get
Speaker 5: them to not eat what we don't want them to eat,
Speaker 5: and that's been a war, but it's been funny. I mean,
Speaker 5: when they win, they deserve the win because they're going
Speaker 5: over fences, through nets and getting there. I'm like, all right, touche,
Speaker 5: you ate this whole tomato plant that was almost ready
Speaker 5: for harvest. You deserved it. I'll do it next time.
Speaker 3: There you go, well said, well said. We're down to
Speaker 3: the last few minutes. Was there any other notes or
Speaker 3: thing anything that you wanted to cover?
Speaker 5: I think yeah, I think we've gone over everything I wrote.
Speaker 3: Now, that's awesome. This was a great first podcast back.
Speaker 3: It was really great to hear your story and your
Speaker 3: journey and uh, it's just been one wonderful to have you.
Speaker 3: And I'll give you the last word for the audience.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry you cut out, but I think I know
Speaker 5: what you were saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say go ahead and yeah,
Speaker 3: go ahead and with.
Speaker 5: The last word, last word. Yeah, yeah, absolutely so, thank
Speaker 5: you so much for having me. This was this was great.
Speaker 5: I can't believe this is happening. It's like meeting your hero.
Speaker 5: But to the audience to wherever you are on your journey,
Speaker 5: don't don't push things. Uh, pray about about truth definitely, don't.
Speaker 5: Try not to get too overly emotional. Keep researching, Do
Speaker 5: not believe what I say, don't believe anyone says. Look,
Speaker 5: look for the truth yourself. You will find it. And
Speaker 5: if if you are in a situation like a few
Speaker 5: people I know where your spouse is completely against this,
Speaker 5: but but you're woken up, you know, give them time,
Speaker 5: be loving, don't don't make the super worst than it
Speaker 5: should be. I mean, they might never believe in the
Speaker 5: biblical fire earth. That's that's fine. It's really not worth
Speaker 5: your marriage or the stress. But if you I mean,
Speaker 5: my wife was was great at waking me up and
Speaker 5: she would slowly just drop some breadcrumbs and just she
Speaker 5: was always loving, she was never pressuring. I think that's
Speaker 5: the best way to do it. And yeah, that's essentially it.
Speaker 3: Amen to that in a shout out to your wife
Speaker 3: for getting you on board.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's the best.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. And again, thank you so much for sharing
Speaker 3: your story as so many others have previously, and it's
Speaker 3: so good to be back and meet with like minded people.
Speaker 3: And we'll have another episode in the very near future
Speaker 3: for Sam. I am George. God bless each and every
Speaker 3: one of you. Keep your head on a swivel, and
Speaker 3: until we meet again, my friends, we will see you.
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