WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.559 The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:29.440 When you look me on the sky, do you feel 3 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:30.079 the poll? 4 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:33.240 The question why. 5 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:40.679 The stories told and left behind in shadows? 6 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:43.320 Where the truth we find? 7 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:51.359 They built their tails on grafts and lies on theories 8 00:00:51.479 --> 00:01:00.399 they stake their designed put down here on this solid 9 00:01:01.280 --> 00:01:03.399 The answer scream. 10 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:11.359 They're all around, Rise and break through all the lies. 11 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:15.000 The Flatter Files on fall. 12 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:20.680 The page is repealing truth. That chef. 13 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:26.280 The stage is from the firm moments of high and 14 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:30.760 right to the dowstat boom in the. 15 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:40.319 Night. Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's 16 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:43.599 time for the new season of the Flat Earth Files. 17 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:46.840 I'm your host is always George Hobbs. We have a 18 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:49.519 great guest standing by and we will get to him 19 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:53.519 in just a moment. Don't forget the website, the flat 20 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:57.159 Earthfiles dot com. Now something new that we are going 21 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:01.719 to be doing. Anytime a new part is dropped. We 22 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:04.319 are going to have a blog post on the front 23 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:09.360 of the website with the current podcast embedded. 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If you will, we'll run 35 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:47.520 through November, we'll take a break in December, and then 36 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.800 we will kick off the next season in early January. 37 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:52.800 And if you would like to be a guest like 38 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:56.879 Sam is today, please send us an email to fe 39 00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:01.800 files guest at gmail dot com. That email address will 40 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:03.919 be in the show notes and I will also put 41 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:06.840 that where we embed the blog post on the flat 42 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:10.080 Earth files dot com. I think I have all the 43 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:12.719 housekeeping notes out of the way, so we're going to 44 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:15.879 bring on tonight's guests from the great state of Georgia. 45 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:17.960 Is Sam, Sam, how are you doing tonight? 46 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:20.439 I am doing great. George, how are you? 47 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:22.919 I'm doing great? And thank you for joining us this evening. 48 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:26.240 And as we kick things off, please do introduce yourself 49 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:26.879 to the audience. 50 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:30.560 Yeah, so I'm going to try and keep this short 51 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:33.840 because it was quite a journey. My name is Sam. 52 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:37.080 I am loving Ease. I groped most of my life 53 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:39.479 in the Middle East in Lovanon. We moved to the 54 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:43.759 US when I was seventeen. In Lovanon, me and my 55 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:47.199 whole family became Christians. We asked Christ to save us, 56 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:50.800 and so that alone was interesting, me a Christian in 57 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:53.879 a country that's mostly Muslim. But we had a pretty 58 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:59.840 good childhood. Moved to Georgia seventeen, went to pharmacy school. 59 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:05.439 About four years later, met my wonderful wife at church 60 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.520 when I was going to school. We got married and 61 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:11.639 moved up to the North Georgia area, where we've been 62 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:17.879 ever since. And I was pretty blue pilled. I mean, 63 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:20.399 I was all one hundred percent of the government's out 64 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:26.120 for US. Vaccines are amazing for our health. Why on 65 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:29.079 earth would you question it? I am a pharmacist. After all, 66 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:33.720 we definitely went to the moon. Are you crazy? It 67 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:36.680 was just it would get so emotional when someone tried 68 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:39.120 to make me look at some data that maybe doesn't 69 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:41.439 fit and that should have been a red fly for me. 70 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:43.319 Why am I getting emotional, I'm not listening to what 71 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:47.279 they're saying. So honestly, it took two things to start 72 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.120 waking me and my wife up. And it was the 73 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:54.720 birth of our first born, of our little son, and 74 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:57.120 then COVID and being in the pharmacy when COVID was 75 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:01.240 going on was definitely a wake up call. Let's start 76 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.439 with my little kid. We had him in the hospital 77 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:09.920 in October when October twenty twenty, when COVID was going crazy, 78 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:12.720 and they asked us a lot of you know, what 79 00:05:12.759 --> 00:05:14.720 do you want to do? Hey, do you want this 80 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:17.519 or that? Any shots? Do you want any skin on 81 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:24.360 skin time? And we weren't completely you know, unaware of 82 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:26.959 what's good for kids that we opted for, like no 83 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:30.720 antibiotic drops and the eye, don't give him any shots 84 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:33.240 until we know, yes, we want as much skin on 85 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:36.439 skin time as we can. Well, it was all blamely ignored. 86 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:39.079 He got his heap shot right after he popped out. 87 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:41.879 They took him away and washed him up and closed 88 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:43.720 them up and then had him to my wife. She 89 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:47.160 got no time with him whatsoever. And we just felt like, 90 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:50.319 something's wrong here. Why did they completely ignore what we wanted? 91 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:54.399 And then they just kind of rushed us out, so 92 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:58.319 we just started, you know, something's up here with a 93 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:00.480 home birth have been better. We didn't feel like the 94 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:04.680 experience was good at all. So time comes for his 95 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:08.319 first pediatrician visit and Best and I were talking about this. 96 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:10.639 I was definitely all pro get his shots, but even 97 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:14.560 I wasn't, you know, forgetting all the shots. There are 98 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:18.240 just so many. I was thinking the big ones. So 99 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:20.240 we went to the pediatrician and they're like, all right, 100 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:22.920 let's start, and we told them, hey, we just think 101 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:25.959 we should just do a few of these vaccines. They 102 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:35.040 immediately started treating us like we were crazy, and they said, oh, 103 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:40.040 we have a delayed schedule that we can give you, 104 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:44.040 but we're not responsible for anything that might happen to 105 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:46.959 your kid. And I was thinking, what kind of way 106 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:49.720 is that to present this. It sounds like you're threatening us. 107 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:53.199 And their delayed schedule was maybe a two month delay 108 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:57.839 and he's still getting all the shots. So that immediately 109 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:01.680 got us into researching, and he never got any shots 110 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:03.600 after that. I mean, it just took a little bit 111 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:06.959 of open mindnus and let's go find some data. And 112 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:10.199 could not find any data that would make me ever 113 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:13.279 want to give my kids any shots. So I guess 114 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:15.439 I was thankful for how they treated us, but we 115 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:18.519 just blew our mind. How I mean, I'm in pharmacy, 116 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:21.680 I'm a pharmacist, and I didn't even know any of 117 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:24.639 this stuff. In school, we got maybe a three hour 118 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:27.399 course on vaccines that involved the representative from one of 119 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:31.720 the manufacturers. Wasn't even a teacher, professor. They just came 120 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:33.600 in and we're like, this is what you do. This 121 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:35.079 is how you get over our parents and not wanting 122 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:37.279 to do it. This is what you say, trust that 123 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:39.839 these are great, these will bring good revenue for your 124 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:46.079 pharmacy reimbursements really high goodbye, and a sales pitch. Absolutely, 125 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:49.240 and then you know you're you're so in pharmacy school. 126 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:51.319 You're just so nervous about what's going to be on 127 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:53.720 the test. You don't really think about what's coming. You're 128 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:55.839 just writing down and trying to memorize. And seeing this 129 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:58.480 huge schedule set us in a frenzy of writing and 130 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:00.240 trying to memorize because there was a lot of stuff 131 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:02.759 on there, and there goes your critical thinking. You're just 132 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.360 eating and spinning it out. So that was the first 133 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:11.560 thing was vaccines, and I wish it happened earlier because 134 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:14.399 I had already signed up and gone the first two 135 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:18.079 Maderna shots when it was being studied. Wow, before this happened, 136 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.519 I know, I'm glad. My heart's still beating. But you know, 137 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:22.720 we'll see before you. 138 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:25.319 Go forward, you actually sign up for one of the trials, 139 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:28.959 the clinical trials prior to January twenty twenty one. 140 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.440 Yes, oh wow, Yes, I was thinking, oh, this is 141 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:35.360 a triple whin. You know, I'm helping my couentry, i 142 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:37.720 am getting the shot, and I'm getting paid. I mean, 143 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:42.840 there's no no, there's no downside here. I got really 144 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:45.960 sick after both shots, I mean like really sick. It 145 00:08:46.679 --> 00:08:48.559 felt work. I've had the flu before, and it just 146 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:50.960 felt worse. I had to I never call out of work. 147 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:52.720 I'm a workaholic, and I had to call out for 148 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:56.720 a couple of days because I couldn't move, And that 149 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:00.200 also made me feel like I did something wrong. There 150 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:02.399 were doing that, but it was part of the waking 151 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:03.120 up process. 152 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.480 Absolutely, yeah, and we've all been there. But I also 153 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:09.639 want to go back a little further where you had 154 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:13.440 basically told the doctors when when your son was born 155 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:17.840 this is how we wanted to happen, and how they 156 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:20.480 just pulled them out and gave them. You said, the 157 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:26.080 hep be shot and very little skin time. I guess 158 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.679 that was the first event that really led you to think, 159 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:29.679 what's going on here? 160 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.600 Yes, yeah, it felt like we were I mean, they 161 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:35.840 kept telling us before the birth that we were in control, 162 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:37.720 and it felt like we're absolutely not in control. The 163 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:41.039 protocol was in control, which it is. 164 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:43.399 Yeah. Absolutely, and I still believe to this day because 165 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:45.000 I saw the way I was treated at the VA 166 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:49.279 when I turned down, you know, my shot. I was 167 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:52.759 just a shoed out of the building basically, and they've 168 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:54.600 never even called me back since, which is fine. I've 169 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:58.840 I've got other means, et cetera. But you know, I've 170 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.919 been doing my other podcast for many years now. And 171 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:06.600 when you take the time to look into big medicine, 172 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:11.200 which includes what they call big pharma in the vaccine industry, 173 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:14.200 and the people who come out to speak out against it, 174 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:18.960 or maybe people who are are we're setting up natural 175 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:24.679 things to fight cancer versus just going to get chemo, 176 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:27.360 and how these people are vilified and in some cases 177 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:29.639 even chased out of the country. 178 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:36.039 Yes, absolutely, it's terrible, so continue, want to go ahead? Okay? Yeah, 179 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:39.799 so after that, let me see here have some notes, 180 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:44.279 all right, Yeah, so number two was florine. We stumbled 181 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:49.600 upon florine, and so my wife started going and getting 182 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:52.519 big jugs and filling them up with the reverse autmosis 183 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:56.120 floride free water from the nearest store. And you know, 184 00:10:56.200 --> 00:10:59.559 it was inconvenience, definitely, but we really once looking into 185 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:02.679 it again, once you start really looking, you don't have 186 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:05.440 to be someone who's brilliant. I mean, anyone can look 187 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.519 into the stuff and you can just first you look 188 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:09.799 at who benefits and where the funding comes from, and 189 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:12.919 immediately all the red flogs come up, and you can 190 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:16.720 find just a history of people who stood against what 191 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:19.440 we think is right now they're all being crushed and 192 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:21.120 no one's going to be crushed if their small frig. 193 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:23.919 They're not really doing anything to stop the money flow. 194 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:29.360 So that alone took us right to Okay, Florida's probably bad, 195 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:31.639 let's try to stop it. And I don't know if 196 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:34.879 this was because of the process of changing that we 197 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:37.639 were doing and praying about it, or if it was physical, 198 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:40.200 but it felt like after the florid was gone, it 199 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:42.799 was much easier to think critically and have an open mind. 200 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:45.159 It just felt like a weight kind of left. So 201 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:48.799 I'm not sure if florid has a effect on you 202 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:51.480 that makes you a bit more complacent, but to me, 203 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.240 it felt like I went from constantly wanting to fight 204 00:11:55.320 --> 00:11:58.559 for what I'm comfortable knowing to Okay, I question everything. 205 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:01.480 So that was step two. We have a nice filter 206 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:03.919 now that we just use since it's amazing. 207 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:09.679 And yeah, I absolutely you know, encourage people to do that. 208 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:12.200 The two changes we made we did that. Also, we 209 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:16.279 got fluoride out of our life, the toothpaste, the mouthwash, 210 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:19.240 fluoride free filters, et cetera. We have a well, so 211 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:21.440 we're good there. But the other thing that we did 212 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:25.159 change in our life that I believe also made a 213 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:28.320 difference as far as critical thinking and seeing things was 214 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:32.120 making sure that deodorants we used didn't have aluminumentum because 215 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.320 the armpit is one of the most absorbive, Uh what's 216 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:40.480 the absorbive places of your body? And these right guards 217 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:44.000 and all these other deodorants are full of aluminum and 218 00:12:44.120 --> 00:12:48.080 you lather it on there every single day. So that's 219 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:51.320 a change we made. And as far as the fluoride goes. 220 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:57.039 There are studies out there that the top five countries 221 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:59.120 in the world that have the most cancer, four of 222 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:00.559 them push fluoride. 223 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:04.399 Yes, I did hear that on your other podcasts. Yeah, 224 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:08.120 and I looked at it up and that's crazy, but 225 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:10.639 I don't I don't doubt it at all. Not toxic. 226 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:14.159 And Edward Burnetz again, who is the great uncle of 227 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:17.080 the CEO of Netflix, he's one of the guys that 228 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:21.240 they hired. This guy basically did a psychological operation to 229 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:23.679 get people and Dennis to believe that putting fluoride in 230 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:25.720 the water was going to make their teeth better. And 231 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:29.679 it fluoride is so detrimental. It's it's a toxic waste 232 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:31.720 of aluminium and no way, shape or form is it 233 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:32.159 good for you. 234 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:38.039 M M yep. So yeah. We also don't use any 235 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.919 dealdorant with aluminum or really anything with fragrance. So it's 236 00:13:42.120 --> 00:13:44.799 essentially I think it's just like ethanol and a drop 237 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:48.759 or two of some essential or something that's very low concentrated. 238 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:51.200 That's all you need really. After I mean, you might 239 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.600 need a period of detoxing where you thinks a little 240 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:55.200 bit and then it just goes away your body gets 241 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:55.519 used to it. 242 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:55.879 Yep. 243 00:13:56.039 --> 00:14:00.240 Absolutely, it's wonderful. But yeah, that was Flora step two. Uh. 244 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:02.120 Then it got a bit deeper, and I'm I won't 245 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:04.480 focus too much on this because it's uh, probably for 246 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:06.759 your other podcast, but you know it was government stuff, 247 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:09.840 you know, the moon landing, nine to eleven, big things 248 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:12.879 like that. It's crazy because once you look into this 249 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:15.960 and you just you just watch and read, You're like, 250 00:14:16.039 --> 00:14:17.960 how did I ever believe this? How did I ever 251 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:21.519 believe that an aluminum plane didn't just go splat outside 252 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:24.200 of the building. It somehow went in and then caused 253 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:27.440 the fire hot enough to cause this thing to collapse perfectly. Yeah, 254 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:29.399 and then no one talks about Tower seven that just 255 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:33.080 happened to go because it was there. It was just 256 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:35.919 crazy And I think my parents still don't believe me 257 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:39.960 on that one. But that's okay. I just en the Pentagon. 258 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:41.960 You can't land a house fly on the Pentagon without 259 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:44.000 them knowing, as you know, and you're gonna let a 260 00:14:44.039 --> 00:14:44.799 plane go in there. 261 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:48.480 Absolutely, And of course the part where you know they 262 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:51.600 had pilots with thirty years experienced try hundreds of time 263 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:54.240 to make that quirk screw landing into it. Not one 264 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:56.639 of them could do it, and according to the reports, 265 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:59.080 that guy couldn't even fly a single engine sesna. 266 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:02.960 Correct. I didn't see that too crazy. There's so much 267 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.080 evidence against it, no doubt in my mind it was. 268 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:10.759 It was all set up. And I mean, I'll see 269 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:12.559 what else was there? Oh yeah, the moonlighting. I mean 270 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:14.639 I think what I first watched was a funny thing 271 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:15.919 happened on the way to the moon, which is a 272 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:19.360 great opening to looking into that. And then you know, 273 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:21.399 you just thought and you think. I think the Atari 274 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:24.840 came out a few years after that, So that's the 275 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.240 computer mode that we had, and we somehow got there 276 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:29.279 and it came back. That's crazy. 277 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:32.840 Yeah, And it's laughable. And the phone conversation with Nixon 278 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:37.159 and you know who took the video of that thing 279 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.960 taken off? And you know, maybe that thing was passable 280 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:42.000 in nineteen sixty nine, but if you look at that 281 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:46.519 video today, it's laughable. But I think the problem is people, 282 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:49.840 even people say yeah, the moon landing was fake, I 283 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.639 don't think they fully understand how big of a lie 284 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.799 that is. Like, according to the history books, that's supposedly 285 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:02.000 the greatest accomplishment of all mankind. So if that is 286 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:04.360 a lie, that's why I tell people, then you have 287 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:07.919 to look at everything else. And as your eyes slowly 288 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:12.559 start to open, it's easier to discern other rabbit holes 289 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:16.399 or conspiracies if you will, and you start understanding everything 290 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:19.039 is really a lie at best, it's got a little 291 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:21.600 bit of truth saturated with a lot of lives. 292 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:27.480 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And once the moon thing opened up 293 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:30.120 to me, then I feel like I was mentally ready 294 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:32.840 to accept what was coming next, which goes thanks to 295 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:35.440 my wife because one night after work, I'm exhausted, We're 296 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:38.639 just sitting there Julian froms on TV show that was 297 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:44.080 just there and she was like, hey, do you think 298 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:48.000 though were the Earth could be not round? And I'm like, oh, 299 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:50.080 I'm not ready for this. I don't think angle that far. 300 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:52.399 I mean, we have, you know, you know, the typical arguments. 301 00:16:52.440 --> 00:16:54.600 We got pictures, we got this, you can see the 302 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:59.799 horizon vanished, all the typical nonsense that science cannot possibly verify, 303 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.879 kind of spyting that out. And she just sent me 304 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.720 a PDF copy of I think it was sixteen emergency 305 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:06.119 landings that proved the flat Earth. 306 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:07.200 That's a great one. 307 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:10.039 I read the whole thing on my phone that night, 308 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:15.000 and it just shattered everything in my head. I I 309 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:17.839 think I cried because I mean, I was all into 310 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:19.960 space and as a kid, you know, I want to 311 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:21.880 be an astronaut. I want to work for NASA, and 312 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:27.279 and and then to realize that if something this big 313 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:34.400 could be a lie, then it's definitely spiritual. Something much 314 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:37.480 bigger than just what we can see or touch is 315 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:40.599 happening here. Because sure not everyone have to be in 316 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:43.200 on it, but the leaders of the countries would have 317 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:44.519 to be in on it, and for them to all 318 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:46.680 be united like that, there has to be a spiritual 319 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:49.640 aspect of this. And so that's when I started digging 320 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:54.160 into what the Bible says as well. And the Bible 321 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:57.680 from the beginning to end. Nowhere does it say it's 322 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.960 it's around her curve, it's flat, it shall not be moved. 323 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.839 The Sun and the moon are moving. You can possibly 324 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.799 stop a rotating Earth and Joshua's time without killing us all. 325 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:11.960 And we can't all see Christ coming back if someone's 326 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:15.039 on the other side, you know, being unfortunate. It just 327 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:19.759 all opened up suddenly, and quite a few people in 328 00:18:19.799 --> 00:18:23.400 my family are there too. They're on board. Some are 329 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:27.279 still on their journey, but you know, I'm praying for them. Obviously, 330 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:30.000 I believe salvation is your number one aspect. But like 331 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:33.599 I said, if something that big is being pulled off, 332 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:35.640 then I feel like we should all know about it 333 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:40.519 because something is being planned. And so yeah, I couldn't 334 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:42.680 sleep for a few weeks after that. It was just 335 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:45.279 tossing and turning all night. I don't know what to 336 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:48.799 latch onto because I felt like the ground was just 337 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.240 taken up from under me. But after everything calmed down, 338 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:54.599 it was time for all the research. Because everyone I 339 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:58.039 tried to bring this up to you, they always expect you. 340 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:01.160 If you say I don't think the Earth is round, 341 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:03.720 they expect you to have all the answers to everything. 342 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:08.400 Yep, so load up on data time exactly, And yet 343 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:10.440 they don't have. If you ask them the simple questions 344 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:13.200 about haliocentrism, they can't even answer. 345 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:16.200 Them, right. I was answering their questions for them for 346 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:17.119 what they were defending. 347 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:17.440 Yep. 348 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:21.640 Absolutely, And I'm a very I like to see things 349 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:23.680 not just a math never made sense to me. I 350 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:26.240 mean simple math. Obviously, once you get into theoretical stuff 351 00:19:26.240 --> 00:19:28.319 that you can't touch or see. It just didn't make 352 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:30.640 sense to me, so I like to go and experiment. 353 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.680 I did the moonlight experiment, which on every surface every 354 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:36.599 day when the moon was bright enough, it was always 355 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:38.640 cooler under the moon. I can't I mean, I took 356 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:40.920 videos of it. I took pictures. It's a fact. It's 357 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:43.000 been experimented over and over. You can repeat it. That's 358 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:47.279 science right there, And then you get your theoretical things too. 359 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:51.640 When do you ever have a fluid move with a 360 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:54.240 solid without there being a great amount of drag. The 361 00:19:54.279 --> 00:19:58.480 atmosphere can't possibly spin with the rotating solid Earth and 362 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:01.720 not cause crazy dragon. It would cause constant you know, 363 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:03.720 winds or fires on the Earth that it would not 364 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:05.799 spin at the same speed. They would be dragged because 365 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:08.519 it's a fluid. That alone should make you think that 366 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:11.200 this can't work. Even if gravity's a thing and holding 367 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:13.640 me down, it can't hold the air the same way 368 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:17.880 it holds the Earth. So stuff like that kept starting 369 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:20.319 to pop up, along with the Bible versus and you know, 370 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.839 now there's no doubt in my mind that that we're 371 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:24.720 not on a spinning ball. 372 00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:28.319 Yeah, and it's amazing, and I think it goes back 373 00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:31.400 to how you felt when you realize flat earth and 374 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:34.200 all these other things, how you've been fooled. And I 375 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:36.960 had a very similar experience to years many years ago, 376 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:40.359 where like legitimately I barely slept for two weeks because 377 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:43.720 I think I realized that I had to unlearn so 378 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:47.559 much of my life that I had digested and thought 379 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:50.960 was true, and I had to relearn what was true. 380 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:53.799 And like you said, I think at that point you 381 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:56.720 realize maybe we should put down the history books and 382 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:00.759 those things and pick up the Bible. And again, one 383 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:04.839 of our listeners many many episodes ago mentioned a verse 384 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:08.440 that didn't really get spoken about enough, which was Genesis two, 385 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:10.640 verse one, that says, thus the heavens and the earth 386 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:13.359 were finished, and all the host of them. And we're 387 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:15.880 told through science that we're on you know, we're cruising 388 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:18.240 at sixty six thousand miles an hour and this never 389 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:25.519 ending you know space, and it's just everything goes against 390 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:30.160 what we are, what we see as a child, right, 391 00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:34.000 we actually believe that we're not spinning, we're not moving, 392 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:36.880 we're stable. But then we're told as we get it, 393 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:39.680 you know, into the education system, now this is what's 394 00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:41.799 really going on. Don't believe what you see, don't believe 395 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:43.960 what you think, don't believe what you feel, believe what 396 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:49.240 we tell you. And the psychological manipulation is so real. 397 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:52.799 And one of the things for me that changed was 398 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:55.240 I started, you know, going back and watching TV and 399 00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:58.559 movies and thinking, my goodness, there's a globe in every 400 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:03.279 single episode and people sending me clips of this and 401 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:07.880