Speaker 1: All right, what's up, stick heads? We are back? Oh no,
Speaker 1: almost forgot snap. All right, So we got ryder Lee
Speaker 1: back in the show. And last time we had a
Speaker 1: bunch of technical difficulties and it was ironic because we
Speaker 1: were talking about UFOs and strangeness of that sort. But
Speaker 1: this time he's got a new documentary out. It's about
Speaker 1: freaking psychic warfare. It's about all psychic agents and MK
Speaker 1: Ultra and freaking the Gate Program. It's all the weird
Speaker 1: stuff that you've been thinking about and told and whispering
Speaker 1: about for years and now we're actually bringing these things
Speaker 1: to the forefront. So welcome back to the show. Rider.
Speaker 1: How's your day go on?
Speaker 2: Brother, Thanks so much for having me on, Brother, really
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Yeah, the name of the documentary just dropped
Speaker 2: on Amazon two days ago. It's called Psychic Agent the
Speaker 2: Gate Program. Hopefully we can get a link in the
Speaker 2: description for people that want to check that out. And
Speaker 2: also I have DVDs. If people are interested in purchasing
Speaker 2: the movie from me, you can email me at raised
Speaker 2: by giantsadoutlook dot com. You can a copy of the DVD.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes it's good to have physical copies of everything.
Speaker 2: You know how PlayStation is now doing all digital games now,
Speaker 2: and I think physical media is really gonna make a
Speaker 2: really big comeback. And that's only if you're inside of
Speaker 2: the United States. I can't ship the movie overseas or
Speaker 2: to other countries. Maybe Canada, I might be able to.
Speaker 2: It's easier to get into Canada. But someone tried to
Speaker 2: order one from me from the UK and it costs
Speaker 2: just as much to ship it as what I was
Speaker 2: charging for the DVD. So it was like, and so
Speaker 2: unless you want to pay double the amount I right
Speaker 2: asking for the DVD, you're gonna have to be inside
Speaker 2: of the United States.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you happen to live in Iran, you know,
Speaker 1: depending on whether the strad is open or not that day,
Speaker 1: you might depend on the price you pay for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be astronomical if you're living in Iran.
Speaker 1: You're right though, you know, not to get too on
Speaker 1: a side tangent, but you're one hundred percent right about
Speaker 1: like the PlayStation thing, physical media, and even just in
Speaker 1: recent years. You know, my daughter she's twelve and a half.
Speaker 1: She's into like vinyls and cassettes and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I've been passing down a bunch of stuff because
Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven in a couple months, and I used
Speaker 1: to collect a bunch of old stuff from before when
Speaker 1: I was born, you know. And so now it's cool
Speaker 1: to see kids getting into buying new vinyls. But the
Speaker 1: irony with it is that the CD is fifteen dollars
Speaker 1: and then the vinyl is thirty five dollars, and you're like, dude,
Speaker 1: what the hell? So I imagine with the used market
Speaker 1: of like physical media, it's just gonna surge because it's
Speaker 1: going to be a supplying demand. You can't see. I'm
Speaker 1: going with that, like whatever's left on the market that
Speaker 1: still works. Man, they're going to charge seventy bucks for
Speaker 1: a DVD.
Speaker 2: That's right. And I one believe that sealed DVDs are
Speaker 2: going to be the next boom. We're seeing a really
Speaker 2: big collecting market boom right now with baseball cards, sports cards,
Speaker 2: Pokemon cards, Dragon balls, sat cards like collectibles are really
Speaker 2: going up in value.
Speaker 1: Anything collectible video games too, like old PlayStation two sealed
Speaker 1: copies are going for crazy amounts. Now, yeah, you're right, So.
Speaker 2: I would anything that you can get that you can
Speaker 2: keep sealed that still has the plastic wrap around it,
Speaker 2: we keep it and throw it in the closet because
Speaker 2: that's going to be that's going to be the next
Speaker 2: big boom I think is going to be sealed old DVDs.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and it's also ironic because of what we're
Speaker 1: kind of talking about today, and like with history, whoever's
Speaker 1: you know, his story, the history is told by the
Speaker 1: victor kind of thing. But then also with the digital age,
Speaker 1: it's easier than ever to just erase history, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean there's stories of AI companies and stuff that
Speaker 1: are buying up all these physical books and then uploading
Speaker 1: them and then making changes and then burning all the
Speaker 1: copies of them. So it's there's something to this, like, man,
Speaker 1: if we don't start paying attention to what's left now
Speaker 1: five ten years from now, it's gonna be a little
Speaker 1: different landscape.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they're doing. They're essentially buying up a
Speaker 2: lot of the books, and in order to upload them
Speaker 2: to AI, they essentially have to destroy the book.
Speaker 1: Or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So by uploading them into the AI system,
Speaker 2: they are effectively destroying the book and then they can
Speaker 2: go in and tamper and rewrite whatever it is that
Speaker 2: they want to rewrite. So that's another thing. If you
Speaker 2: have first edition copies of books, I would hold on
Speaker 2: to those as well, don't get rid of those. Hold
Speaker 2: on to those as long as you possibly can, because
Speaker 2: those are going to be very, very important in the future.
Speaker 2: Anything physical that you can get your hands on is
Speaker 2: very important because we want to live in this digital
Speaker 2: age where everything is digitized. Hospital records are digitized, books
Speaker 2: are digitized, media is digitized. It's all being uploaded into
Speaker 2: a cloud. And that's not just people have a weird
Speaker 2: idea of the cloud. They think the cloud is just
Speaker 2: the ether. It's not. It's being stored in data centers.
Speaker 1: Yes, databases, data centers.
Speaker 2: Yes, data centers have existed long before these AI data centers.
Speaker 2: That's where everything, all the information in the Internet is stored,
Speaker 2: is in gigantic data centers. They've been operating and running
Speaker 2: since the inception of the Internet. Your stuff isn't just
Speaker 2: stored in some ambiguous cloud that they just call it
Speaker 2: the cloud. But that's not what it is. It's always
Speaker 2: been data centers. We've always had data centers. It just
Speaker 2: hasn't been a popular topic and a popular thing to
Speaker 2: talk about because now they've shifted into AI data centers,
Speaker 2: but there have been regular data centers for storage of
Speaker 2: the Internet and in things for decades.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, And it's it's just now it's being
Speaker 1: noticed because they're kind of doing it at such an
Speaker 1: accelerated rate, you know, and they're building ten to one
Speaker 1: versus the one they used to build. Now they're popping
Speaker 1: up ten at a time, and you're like, hey, that's
Speaker 1: why people are starting to you know. It's it's like
Speaker 1: a giraffe trying to hide behind a little bush, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we see you over there. Now, man, you're not hiding anymore.
Speaker 1: And so it is kind of weird that it's just
Speaker 1: at such an accelerated right now. But it's also just
Speaker 1: weird that everything is accelerated, you know. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: got Tulci Gabbard talking about MK ultra files. We got
Speaker 1: all this crazy stuff going on that like five ten
Speaker 1: years ago, thirty years ago, you'd be called an absolute
Speaker 1: crazy person. And now you've got elected officials like Tripoli
Speaker 1: calls it. There's like safe dangerous and the danger is
Speaker 1: dangerous now all these old dangerous, dangerous subjects are safe dangerous.
Speaker 1: But then it's also like, how do we know if
Speaker 1: these people have lied to us forever and done these
Speaker 1: things with us, why the hell would they be telling
Speaker 1: us the truth now too? You know, it's a big
Speaker 1: mind game.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a difference between the separation of time makes
Speaker 2: the biggest difference between anything, right, between an event happening
Speaker 2: and then you coming out and seeing that, yeah that's
Speaker 2: what happened when you you denied it for twenty years. Right,
Speaker 2: the separation of time and between the event and you
Speaker 2: coming out about it, it makes the biggest difference in
Speaker 2: the world because then you kind of have plausible deniability
Speaker 2: to the point where while all those people that did
Speaker 2: that way back then in the past are no longer alive,
Speaker 2: they're not in charge anymore. Yeah we might have done that.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a thing, but it doesn't fall on anybody
Speaker 2: that's currently in power, because all of those people are
Speaker 2: dead and they're gone or they're no longer in office. Right.
Speaker 2: I mean if people if somehow we got some kind
Speaker 2: of document saying that they faked the moon landing, I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody would care, just like nobody would really
Speaker 2: care that you know about the what recently the JFK stuff,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, when the JFK stuff came out, no one
Speaker 2: really cared. See, there's so much time has passed in
Speaker 2: between that event happening and them coming out and seeing that, yes,
Speaker 2: this is what happened, that people no longer care because
Speaker 2: they've already suspected and talked about it for a really
Speaker 2: long time that the official narrative wasn't real and it
Speaker 2: didn't happen, Right.
Speaker 1: It's just validation at that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's kind of like, well, we already knew that.
Speaker 2: We already knew that, so like it's like kind of
Speaker 2: nothing new and it just kind of gets brushed under
Speaker 2: the UFO stuff. That's what I was going with what
Speaker 2: I was thinking about, not so much the GfK, but
Speaker 2: the UFO thing. Whenever the government came out and was
Speaker 2: like yeah, UFOs were real, Like no one really cared.
Speaker 2: They were just like, we kind of already knew that
Speaker 2: there was something more going on than what you were
Speaker 2: saying was going on. So it was kind of like
Speaker 2: a big nothing burger.
Speaker 1: It's almost purposeful, you know. As I'm thinking about that,
Speaker 1: as you're saying that, it's like it's almost purposeful to
Speaker 1: give you some crazy information that we've been gas lit
Speaker 1: on for decades or however long, right even one hundred years,
Speaker 1: fifty years, thirty years. But they finally give you information
Speaker 1: on it. But there's just as big of events kind
Speaker 1: of things going on now that keeps you distracted, where
Speaker 1: it's the irony of like, okay, we'll give you these
Speaker 1: tidbits of truth, but we're too busy, if preoccupied with
Speaker 1: the other things going on currently, or like you said,
Speaker 1: the time that separates everything. We're like, oh, those guys
Speaker 1: are all dead. We can't do nothing about it. Whatever,
Speaker 1: move on. And it's almost like that's what they do
Speaker 1: on purpose, that slow burn, so that way you just
Speaker 1: move on from it because life is chaotic already. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it is weird. Why are they telling us all these
Speaker 1: little tidbits right now? It doesn't make a whole lot
Speaker 1: of sense to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's information overload. It's a way to flood the
Speaker 2: zone to you know, when something really big happens and
Speaker 2: then there's fifteen other things that are happening that captures
Speaker 2: your attention away from the thing that you know came out.
Speaker 2: I mean, we saw this with the Charlie Kirk preliminary
Speaker 2: hearing stuff. I mean, there were so many things in
Speaker 2: there that did not make any kind of sense whatsoever.
Speaker 2: And in order to kind of cover that up, the
Speaker 2: things were happening during that exact same time you had
Speaker 2: the stuff going on with Mitch McConnell and that other
Speaker 2: senator that died that when visited Lindsey Graham visited Ukraine,
Speaker 2: Ukraine and then came back and then died. And so
Speaker 2: it was like and that happened all on the exact
Speaker 2: last day of the Tyler Robinson preliminary hearing. So the
Speaker 2: XPIRE thing just shifted. And that's how easy it went
Speaker 2: from everyone talking about Charlie Kirk on x to Lindsey
Speaker 2: Graham and Mitch McConnell like within a couple of hours
Speaker 2: due And that's how easy things can just like turn
Speaker 2: on a dime. People are out there just constantly looking
Speaker 2: for the next thing. It's like the really the alternative
Speaker 2: media space has become the mainstream news. That's exactly what
Speaker 2: the mainstream news did and does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just with the currency of honesty at
Speaker 1: this point, you know, it's like that's what people are
Speaker 1: that's why people are turning to alternative media and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like I could be one hundred percent wrong about
Speaker 1: every single thing we're talking about right now, but at
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm being honest about what my thoughts are,
Speaker 1: and we're seeing through that veil of what you know,
Speaker 1: the damn mainstream media has been forever. It's been fake,
Speaker 1: it's been lies, it's been all these things. It's like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand, you know, people, people, it's a good
Speaker 1: thing that people are starting to question everything, but it
Speaker 1: is information overload to where now we got people going
Speaker 1: down crazy rabbit holes and bring up Sam again. Apparently
Speaker 1: Sam is you know, Francis Bacon and different things like that.
Speaker 1: He's you know, it's like you got Tyler Hansen, Fittest
Speaker 1: flood Earth are taking people in the wrong direction of things,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's all mind control. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day. It's like I think they they knew
Speaker 1: the Internet was gonna get away from them, but they
Speaker 1: allowed it. So that way, it's like you said, you
Speaker 1: just flood everything, and there's truth in there if you
Speaker 1: look for it, but I don't know, there's too much
Speaker 1: lies too. Uh.
Speaker 2: It's really interesting with the Tyler Hansen guy. I don't
Speaker 2: discount everything. He's taken it to a really big extreme.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: He's been on here twice years ago, and then he
Speaker 1: just went cuckoo and s already attacking everybody, and then
Speaker 1: I've been blocking, so has everybody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it seems like that if you were
Speaker 2: an actor, right, what would be the greatest acting role
Speaker 2: that you could possibly ever do. The greatest acting role
Speaker 2: that you could possibly ever do is to convince the
Speaker 2: public you're a completely different person.
Speaker 3: In real life.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident in saying that it has been done before. Now,
Speaker 2: if everybody that he says in this claiming is different
Speaker 2: people as a whole other story, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: But when I look at it from the perspective of,
Speaker 2: you know, could it some sort of operator, has some
Speaker 2: sort of operation like that happened in the past, you
Speaker 2: can pretty much guarantee that it has.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So that's the nugget of truth that is in the
Speaker 2: things that he's talking about is one hundred percent believe.
Speaker 2: I mean, if someone else within a movie can completely
Speaker 2: convince somebody that there are another individual, then why would
Speaker 2: they not at least try and attempt to do that
Speaker 2: in real life? I mean, that would be the ultimate
Speaker 2: acting gig. You know, if someone came to you and
Speaker 2: was like, hey, you play this character in all these
Speaker 2: different roles and the only reason that people know. I mean,
Speaker 2: look at Johnny Depp, right, Johnny Depp is sometimes has
Speaker 2: completely changed who he is for a role like his
Speaker 2: external body. Sometimes you wouldn't be able to recognize Johnny
Speaker 2: Depp in some of those roles if you didn't know
Speaker 2: that it was Johnny Depp, like whenever he changed into
Speaker 2: like Whitey Bulger for that. Yes, if I didn't know
Speaker 2: that I was yeah, black Mass, I.
Speaker 1: Think black Mass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I didn't know that that was Johnny Depp,
Speaker 2: I would have I wouldn't have known that it was
Speaker 2: Johnny Depp. Right, So that's just my little tibit on him.
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, with this documentary, dude, this required a
Speaker 2: lot of research on my end and going down really
Speaker 2: deep and going through a lot of declassified documents, a
Speaker 2: lot of remote viewing documents, and a lot of psychic
Speaker 2: spy documents. And I kind of found out that where
Speaker 2: a lot of this really started is in nineteen fifty eight,
Speaker 2: the United States launched its first satellite in the space
Speaker 2: called explore one in January of nineteen fifty eight, just
Speaker 2: a little while after Russia had launched their satellite Sputneche
Speaker 2: in the space. A lot of things were happening in
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty eight. DARPA was established in nineteen fifty eight,
Speaker 2: NASA was established in nineteen fifty eight, and the government
Speaker 2: officially became involved in the public school education system in
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty eight, sponsored by the Rocketfellers. Right, this is
Speaker 2: where those school text books come from. Just Lane's Maxwell's
Speaker 2: dad actually had a hand in this as well. The
Speaker 2: roth Childs were also, like many people know, were instrumental
Speaker 2: in the formation of the Federal Reserve and they actually
Speaker 2: bailed out the United States when we ran out of gold.
Speaker 2: And we also know from the interview with Steve Bannon,
Speaker 2: his documentary that never came out, that he had done
Speaker 2: with Epstein.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Epstein interview.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Epstein had basically said in that interview that he
Speaker 2: represented the entire roth Child family. So when the Rothchilds
Speaker 2: needed to take over Wall Street, Uh, they did it
Speaker 2: by sending somebody to New York City to oversee the
Speaker 2: purchase of mcmellan Inc. Mcmellan Inc. Was a media company
Speaker 2: that would later be known as McGraw hill, which is
Speaker 2: responsible for most of the elementary school books in America
Speaker 2: that kids were raised on and taught in public school, and.
Speaker 1: That those books dick and stuff fourth grade.
Speaker 2: This is stupid, I hate it. But Robert Maxwell was
Speaker 2: that person that they sent to New York City to
Speaker 2: take over this company. He was like their main guy.
Speaker 2: And when uh, Maxwell would go on to die on
Speaker 2: his jot because he owed a lot of money to Masad.
Speaker 2: He also owed a lot of money to the Rothschild
Speaker 2: family and the Rothschild family through the Bank of England,
Speaker 2: right and wash, That's how they made all this connection
Speaker 2: to Maxwell. They were he was essentially, I mean, corporate
Speaker 2: blackmail schemes for them throughout the entire world run by Massade.
Speaker 1: And for a guy that quote unquote wasn't part Massad.
Speaker 1: Didn't he get a military funeral when he died, which
Speaker 1: is kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: Very interesting, Right, and Epstein and Gaslaine were to take
Speaker 2: that over, right and Epstein was only introduced to Maxwell
Speaker 2: and Gasleen Maxwell and to Robert Maxwell just six months
Speaker 2: prior to Maxwell dying. Right, Epstein was his replacement, and
Speaker 2: after that they would go on to infiltrate and do
Speaker 2: everything that Maxwell was doing. And we know through Alan Dershowitz,
Speaker 2: Epstein's lawyer, that he was introduced to Jeffrey Epstein in
Speaker 2: the I think he said the early nineties by the
Speaker 2: Lord and Lady Rothchild.
Speaker 1: Yep, right, and he's just come out and said he's
Speaker 1: a Republican now in like the last week or two.
Speaker 1: Of course, got to jump yep, yep. But continue, yeah,
Speaker 1: because the Zionism and all the ship they continue.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's also an email from Epstein over to Peter
Speaker 2: Thiel and he would say, as you know, I represent
Speaker 2: the wroth Child family, you know, So that's the wroth
Speaker 2: Child connection. And we also have the wroth Child's funding
Speaker 2: psychic and ESP research into major universities across the United
Speaker 2: States in the early thirties at Duke University by a
Speaker 2: psychiatrist Carl Zinder and along with jb Ryan, who developed
Speaker 2: and created an ESP psychic card game which would go
Speaker 2: on to test and evaluate indigenous school children in Canada
Speaker 2: and as well as the United States.
Speaker 1: Is we know, yeah, we know what happened to those kids,
Speaker 1: but yeah, continue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was called the Zender Cards, right, and
Speaker 2: that's a very real I mean, you can just typing
Speaker 2: into Google the undercards. This is a very real telepathy
Speaker 2: card game that a lot of people within the Gate
Speaker 2: Program remember doing as a child. Right, they would get these,
Speaker 2: they would have to predict what's on the flash card
Speaker 2: before it slipped over. Right, The teachers would do this
Speaker 2: with children.
Speaker 1: And okay, so gotcha, Yeah, I know you're talking about
Speaker 1: Now I knew the name and now putting the two together. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So you.
Speaker 2: Got to think that there were millions of kids that
Speaker 2: have been through this type of program, that gifted and
Speaker 2: talented education program since the sixties and maybe even before that,
Speaker 2: as we show in the documentary Psychic Agent, the Gate
Speaker 2: Program when the education became funded by the government, because
Speaker 2: we were really heavily lacking in uh scientists and astronauts
Speaker 2: and engineers, and we essentially needed to keep up with Russia.
Speaker 2: They got into space, they launched us out of Lite
Speaker 2: before we did. They were essentially the first country to
Speaker 2: get into space, and we had to try and keep
Speaker 2: up with them. So we started going after gifted and
Speaker 2: talented children in public school, right, and Russia got more
Speaker 2: Nazi scientists and engineers after World War two than the
Speaker 2: United States did. They put them all on a train
Speaker 2: brought him into Russia after the war. The Russian version
Speaker 2: of Project paper Clip introduced over six thousand Nazi scientists
Speaker 2: and engineers and their family into Russia after World War Two,
Speaker 2: which is almost triple the confirmed amount that the United
Speaker 2: States got in Project paper Clip. It kind of seems
Speaker 2: like that the United States got the leftovers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see what you said that. It is a
Speaker 1: weird thing where it's like the person that was just
Speaker 1: your enemy just in battle was just your enemy. Now
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, war's over, and it just kind of
Speaker 1: shows that most of it's a facade and bullshit anyways,
Speaker 1: because now okay, as soon as the light switches flipped
Speaker 1: that the war is over. Now okay you can come
Speaker 1: work for me, and it all's forgiven and forgotten kind of.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is weird because then it just turned
Speaker 1: into the next race where Russia versus America on just
Speaker 1: like what they're doing now with data centers. Well, if
Speaker 1: we don't do it first, China is gonna do it.
Speaker 1: That's like saying, do you want me to punch you
Speaker 1: in the face or you don't want that guy to
Speaker 1: punch you in the face, but you're still getting punched
Speaker 1: in the face. But anyways, continue man, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. It makes absolutely no sense. And Russia,
Speaker 2: it's kind of transferred. I mean, Russia is still considered
Speaker 2: our enemy. I mean, if you look at Russia Gate
Speaker 2: and like all the stuff against Russia and US funding Ukraine,
Speaker 2: Russia is still a really big enemy of the United States,
Speaker 2: And it seems like it's always been our Nazis versus
Speaker 2: their Nazis. That's what it seems like.
Speaker 1: The entire cool shit, just like Ukraine. Like you said, yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Was all about right, That's what it really seemed like.
Speaker 2: So when Russia launched spot Neck in the space the
Speaker 2: refers to get the space to launch us out of light,
Speaker 2: this really freaked out the eyes and outer administration, and
Speaker 2: they realized that the best way to get people recruited
Speaker 2: into the military, to get them to join, to get
Speaker 2: them into the intelligence agencies and too high positions of
Speaker 2: power within corporations and the thought leaders and leaders in communities,
Speaker 2: you know, and including you know, some form of inventors
Speaker 2: and entertainers, musicians, all these people that they could basically
Speaker 2: propagandize and put out as the front facing person of
Speaker 2: a certain organization they were looking for, right, and we
Speaker 2: show that in the documentary. We go over this gifted
Speaker 2: and talented document that shows all of the characteristics that
Speaker 2: they were looking for. And it wasn't just based on intelligence, okay,
Speaker 2: it was based on creativity, entertainment, outside of the box, thinking, charisma,
Speaker 2: you know all. There was different categories for who could.
Speaker 1: Be the next musician, next politician, and next this yet, like,
Speaker 1: not everybody's gonna have the same outcome, but we could
Speaker 1: still use most of these people for different Who's gonna
Speaker 1: be the next Lebron James athlete that speaks out about
Speaker 1: black Lives matter? Who's gonna be you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Those guys? Yeah, continue, man, I'm loving this exactly.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is. You just hit the freaking
Speaker 2: nail on the head right there. That's what the entire
Speaker 2: goal of doing this was for. It was essentially for recruitment,
Speaker 2: you know, because but there's also a twofold and even
Speaker 2: a threefold scenario to that that they always have backup
Speaker 2: things and other agendas that they're also doing that that
Speaker 2: are branches from the tree, right, And one of those
Speaker 2: other things was that, well, we can also get a
Speaker 2: lot of the people that could be doing this on
Speaker 2: their own, like such as inventors and out of the
Speaker 2: box thinkers, And we don't want them to go out
Speaker 2: and create their own company and their own organization because
Speaker 2: then we can't control it because they essentially control it themselves.
Speaker 2: We don't want them to invent anything that really revolutionizes
Speaker 2: the way that we operate as a society because we
Speaker 2: have to have a strong hold on that. So the
Speaker 2: way that we can mitigate that is that we can
Speaker 2: get all of the brightest minds working for us instead.
Speaker 1: Yes, how is it any different than like H one
Speaker 1: B Visas? Now you know, it's like we're not gonna
Speaker 1: let this person become the CEO of the company. But
Speaker 1: this guy from India is smartest shit in this tech
Speaker 1: thing that we're doing, So we'll bring him over. He'll
Speaker 1: hit a wall or a glass ceiling at some point.
Speaker 1: He's never gonna go to be the owner of the company,
Speaker 1: but we can still use his talent. Just like what
Speaker 1: we did with the Nazis and what Russia did with
Speaker 1: the Nazis, You're never gonna take over NASA. I mean,
Speaker 1: they kind of did, but I'm just saying, but yeah, continue,
Speaker 1: I'm just rambling, but yeah.
Speaker 2: No, that's exactly right. Again, you just hit the nail
Speaker 2: on the head, like we can bring them into the
Speaker 2: fold by the ever going to amount anything because we
Speaker 2: have the clampdown on them. We're the ones that run
Speaker 2: and own the company. There's nothing that they're going to
Speaker 2: be able to do about it, and anything that they
Speaker 2: come up with, anything that they invent, is going to
Speaker 2: be owned by us, right and the people that slip
Speaker 2: through the cracks that may invent something that would kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, change our reality or revolutionize the way we
Speaker 2: operate as a society. The patents, the company is crushed,
Speaker 2: their character assassinated, they're bankrupted, they're basically drugged through the
Speaker 2: freaking dirt. Their life is essentially ruined behind.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're killed, they're assassinated, they're murdered.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Invention Security Act of nineteen fifty one
Speaker 2: literally says, and you can look this up, that the
Speaker 2: government can classify any patent under the threat of national security.
Speaker 2: They can literally take any pattern that they deem is
Speaker 2: a national security threat and completely block it. They can
Speaker 2: put a security blanket envelope over it, meaning that you
Speaker 2: can't use that pattern, you can't sell that pattern, and
Speaker 2: you cannot invent the device or whatever it was that
Speaker 2: is on that pattern. If you do your you're going
Speaker 2: to go to prison.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's kind of like the idea of like nuclear
Speaker 1: power plants, like the oh well it's good, it's the
Speaker 1: secary thing because you know this is good. But meanwhile,
Speaker 1: if you have, like I don't know, a natural gas plant,
Speaker 1: I mean, you smoke a cigarette too close and might
Speaker 1: blow up the entire place too, So it's kind of ironic.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, you know, but yeah, they can just
Speaker 1: shut you out because you're you're not the big dog they.
Speaker 2: Are, exactly, and they want those people in the fold.
Speaker 2: They don't want them out there creating their own stuff
Speaker 2: and building up their own companies and building it up
Speaker 2: from the bottom of venty things that are really going
Speaker 2: to make a difference. They want them because then it
Speaker 2: can be a secret thing, right, and then they can
Speaker 2: just put somebody out as a as the representative of
Speaker 2: the technology that they gave them.
Speaker 1: The kind of man cherrying candidate or their whatever little
Speaker 1: mk ultra puppet, you know, and then it's even like
Speaker 1: to bring up Charlie Kirk just for a tiny minute.
Speaker 1: That's what kind of seems like when people started digging
Speaker 1: into Erica's timeline, You're like, whoa.
Speaker 3: Was Erica one of those kind of situations and then
Speaker 3: you know, kind of Charlie to an extent, but the
Speaker 3: more we dug into Erica, who didn't know nothing about
Speaker 3: and then now she presents herself into the world and
Speaker 3: it's almost like that's her step, kind of like what
Speaker 3: you said with Robert Maxwell and then him dying, and.
Speaker 1: Right before that, Jeffrey is introduced and he kind of
Speaker 1: takes over the business. It's ironic, you see, like Erica
Speaker 1: like she was groomed to takeo. I'm not making accusations
Speaker 1: that she killed him whatever. I'm just saying speculating. It
Speaker 1: is weird, like the girl that used to be a
Speaker 1: trad wife that you know, CEOs should be males and
Speaker 1: all that, and now she's got more pyro than a
Speaker 1: Romstein concert and Paul Stanley kissed pants on and dancing
Speaker 1: around and hugging Jadvanser Like where'd the tradwise shit go?
Speaker 1: You know, But it's weird. It's like the next transition
Speaker 1: the next step like she was activated almost or something.
Speaker 1: It's kind of strange.
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting that you bring up Charlie Kirk because
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk went to a gate program school in Palatine, Illinois,
Speaker 2: is called Creative Children's Academy. Now it was renamed Quest Academy.
Speaker 2: That's been called Quest Academy since nineteen ninety nine until today. Right.
Speaker 2: And this wasn't just a class, right, This wasn't some
Speaker 2: special class that was in you know, a public school.
Speaker 2: This was literally an entire school dedicated to gifted and
Speaker 2: talented individuals.
Speaker 1: That's wild, Like.
Speaker 2: That's that's what it was for. You know, an education
Speaker 2: them designed and you can get on their website and
Speaker 2: look it up. Just google in Quest Academy and you
Speaker 2: can go to their website and you can read all
Speaker 2: about it, right, and it'll tell you that it's an
Speaker 2: education designed for intellectually gifted children. That they're a preschool
Speaker 2: through eighth grade, and it's to bring curiosity driven kids
Speaker 2: and learning that the learning goes beyond the classroom, you know.
Speaker 1: And that sounds nice in a way because you know,
Speaker 1: if you think of like Rockefeller Education, you're like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: we tell kids not to be creative and shut their
Speaker 1: brains off and focus in their desk all day. So
Speaker 1: on the surface, you hear what you're saying and you're like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, this sounds interesting. My kid's pretty creative,
Speaker 1: little outgoing, little son of a bitch. So they just
Speaker 1: send him there. Then next thing you know, they might
Speaker 1: be brainwashing your kid and sending them in some grooming program.
Speaker 2: Well that's exactly where a right, And there's really specific
Speaker 2: wording on the website that says that we create opportunities
Speaker 2: for students right to essentially apply explore their passions, and
Speaker 2: take what they've learned and apply it to the outside world,
Speaker 2: to things outside of the classroom, right, which is we
Speaker 2: create is very important wording there, Right, Yeah, we create opportunities.
Speaker 2: So basically, if you make it through the school, you're
Speaker 2: going to be set up for your future because the
Speaker 2: handlers will control and dictate your entire life.
Speaker 1: Yep, might as well be going through skull and bones. Yes,
Speaker 1: the same kind of thing. They're setting you on a
Speaker 1: progress like a progression. Yeah yeah, well then okay, let
Speaker 1: me ask this like okay, uh, it's it's on this
Speaker 1: gate I and so I was born in eighty nine.
Speaker 1: I graduated in two thousand and eight, and in elementary
Speaker 1: school and middle school, I have this weird thing. Say,
Speaker 1: so you've been digging into this all right. So I
Speaker 1: was in the Gate Program for a while through elementary
Speaker 1: and middle school, and then I went to three different
Speaker 1: high schools in four years so that I wasn't in
Speaker 1: Gate anymore. I was switching classes. So long story short,
Speaker 1: but I do and don't remember weird things. Like it's
Speaker 1: strange because I get it the older you get, the
Speaker 1: less you remember from your younger days. But it's weird
Speaker 1: that I can remember things from ten years ago, like
Speaker 1: no problem, fifteen years ago, and I'm in my early twenties,
Speaker 1: late teens. But then like there's just weird haziness sometimes
Speaker 1: with like childhood. But it doesn't necessarily mean like somebody
Speaker 1: touched my b hole or nothing like that. It's just
Speaker 1: this weird thing of like I remember. The more that
Speaker 1: people are talking about this subject now, you know, people
Speaker 1: coming out like Johnny on Tenfoil says he was in
Speaker 1: the Gate Program and other people everybody kind of describes
Speaker 1: the same thing, which is what's really weird because you
Speaker 1: find out like wait, a minute, I thought, we it
Speaker 1: almost feels like you were in like a secluded thing.
Speaker 1: But then the more people are talking about it online
Speaker 1: now it's a strange thing that it's almost like you're
Speaker 1: not alone. It's like going to therapy or something. You're like,
Speaker 1: holy shit, you were in it too. I didn't know
Speaker 1: anybody else that or you know, so I don't know
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on, like why were so many
Speaker 1: kids And it seems like in the nineties people around
Speaker 1: our age like everybody's re remembering stuff right now, like
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2: Well, other than the recruiting people part, because I do
Speaker 2: believe that that is a big part of this is recruitment,
Speaker 2: you know, bring people into the fold, get them into
Speaker 2: the military. Several people that I've talked to that went
Speaker 2: through the Gate program ended up in some form of
Speaker 2: military service or working for the intelligence community. And that's
Speaker 2: not to say all of them, but several of them.
Speaker 2: That seemed to be a very uh common thing.
Speaker 1: That seems that's funny you say that because most of
Speaker 1: my family is all military, and ever since I was
Speaker 1: a kid, I had played on going into the military,
Speaker 1: and then I hit high school and I was playing
Speaker 1: guitar and bass guitar, and I was growing my hair
Speaker 1: and playing in bands and smoking weed and chasing chicks,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, that military doesn't sound
Speaker 1: that fun anymore. So I just kind of threw that
Speaker 1: idea out to the side. And then it's weird because
Speaker 1: years later I'm glad it happened because of what we
Speaker 1: found out about different things over because I would have
Speaker 1: been right in freaking kuwait or some shit like that.
Speaker 1: I would have come back with no legs or with
Speaker 1: mental PTSD problems. But putting that aside, it's funny you
Speaker 1: say that because it's a projection right into the military,
Speaker 1: it seems like for a lot of these people.
Speaker 2: And also it can be just to put people in
Speaker 2: every aspect of society as well. Right, it doesn't even
Speaker 2: have to be into some high position of power. It
Speaker 2: can literally be DMV workers. It can literally be your mailman,
Speaker 2: could be the UPS driver, It could be your neighbor,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Yeah, it doesn't not myself
Speaker 2: super paranoid, but I don't think that that's untrue.
Speaker 1: Well, like we just established people everywhere coming out with
Speaker 1: these stories now, so yes, it could be your next
Speaker 1: door neighbor, your mailman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it really seems like to me. But
Speaker 2: apart from that, there's also things that people remember that
Speaker 2: are way stranger that make that kind of don't make
Speaker 2: a lot of sense, right, like being forced to take
Speaker 2: a strange substance. The pink drink. People remember some people
Speaker 2: remember it differently. Some people remember like an orange drink
Speaker 2: or a pink drink, but some people a lot of
Speaker 2: people remember different reasons for why they had to take it.
Speaker 2: So depending on what state you were from or what
Speaker 2: was kind of going on with you, you were kind
Speaker 2: of told different things as to what the pink drink was.
Speaker 2: Some people were told that it was liquid vitamins. Other
Speaker 2: people were told that it was a liquid vaccine. Other
Speaker 2: people were told it was for their asthmas, for adhd.
Speaker 1: There some for your teeth. Wasn't there something about that.
Speaker 2: You needed to swish it around in your mouth and
Speaker 2: spit it out like there's there's just a bunch of different.
Speaker 1: That's what I remember, because I remember the pink drink,
Speaker 1: and I remember the teeth. Reason is what my reason was.
Speaker 2: So but if it was only if it was for
Speaker 2: one singular reason, then why were many other people told
Speaker 2: that it was for different things. Right, If it was
Speaker 2: just fluoride and it was just to help your teeth
Speaker 2: to swish around in your mouth and spit it out,
Speaker 2: then why were other people told that it wasn't that,
Speaker 2: and that it was vitamins or a vaccine or for ADHD.
Speaker 2: And some people remember tablets. So it really doesn't make
Speaker 2: any sense. If it really was just a fluoride drink,
Speaker 2: then it should be a fluoride drink across.
Speaker 1: The board exactly. The reason should be the same, no
Speaker 1: matter what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, people remember wearing a strange type of three D glasses,
Speaker 2: playing with blocks, doing rar shock test the image on
Speaker 2: the piece of paper. Then they got to say what
Speaker 2: the image is on the paper. Reading test. Several people
Speaker 2: have claimed to have been directly pulled out of the
Speaker 2: classroom by a guy in a suit that they had
Speaker 2: never seen before and then taken into a separate classroom
Speaker 2: and given all these tests and asked to read. A
Speaker 2: lot of the people had a very high reading level.
Speaker 2: Walter Bosley had that he was in the Air Force,
Speaker 2: a FOSI special agent. He was involved in the military
Speaker 2: and involved with three letter organizations. A lot of people
Speaker 2: were really gifted at reading. That was a part of
Speaker 2: these programs. But several people were you know, brought into
Speaker 2: these programs based on their their talents and being able
Speaker 2: to identify things in a room, being hyper vigilant, pattern recognition,
Speaker 2: things like that. Other just like what I was mentioning,
Speaker 2: other than just being intelligent and intelligence, book smarts wasn't
Speaker 2: the only qualifying factor of being putting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were probably looking for people with rage. They
Speaker 1: were looking for people with anything they could use get
Speaker 1: with the rage. If we can control it, we can
Speaker 1: make him some billy badass in the military. This other
Speaker 1: guy that's a litigator, we can make him the top
Speaker 1: DA in this county over here or whatever. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like they're just dropping people in whatever their particular. It's
Speaker 1: almost it's just a weird thinking, like what we were
Speaker 1: talking about Charlie Kirk school, like where it's like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: the Rockefeller style of school is like, hey, shut up
Speaker 1: and ask weird questions and shut your creativity off and
Speaker 1: just do what your assignment says. But then this other
Speaker 1: side's like, hey, we'll let your kid be as weird
Speaker 1: as they want to be. And then you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well man, there might need to be a little bit
Speaker 1: of a dividing line somewhere, you know, because if we
Speaker 1: start going that route, then they're gonna try to brain
Speaker 1: wash your kid and send them the top route of
Speaker 1: some political leader, some rock star, some movie star, some
Speaker 1: whatever to just send their messages out to the masses.
Speaker 1: And then that's our paranoia of brains of you know,
Speaker 1: conspiracy guys. But it's being proven true right in front
Speaker 1: of her eyes right now, you know. So I do
Speaker 1: want to ask, Okay, I've got three kids. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you have any kids, but with like Gate programs,
Speaker 1: my daughter she's extremely smart. She's book smart, like, she's
Speaker 1: very smart, like fast reader, retains information, all the above.
Speaker 1: She's in sixth grade, going into seventh grade this year.
Speaker 1: She was in Gate for like the last two or
Speaker 1: three years or whatever. We're in a small town school,
Speaker 1: we know all the teachers. Nothing weird has happened with
Speaker 1: that one. But that doesn't mean that's the case for everybody.
Speaker 1: So is are there still like on a mass scale,
Speaker 1: like we were talking about the nineties and before that,
Speaker 1: is the Gate program still what it was currently? Or
Speaker 1: is it kind of now? Too many people are noticing
Speaker 1: and they have to back off a little bit. You
Speaker 1: kind of see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: What does she say that she does inside of the
Speaker 2: Gifted and Talented program.
Speaker 1: Well, she's actually just in her same regular classes. She
Speaker 1: doesn't have a separate teacher. She doesn't go into because
Speaker 1: when I was in I had a separate teacher. I
Speaker 1: remember Miss Schroeder and whatever. In sixth, seventh, and eighth grade,
Speaker 1: I had the same teacher for three years. Even when
Speaker 1: you're rotating teachers, right, my daughter she's just whatever her
Speaker 1: teacher is. Then sometimes they'll get like a couple different assignments,
Speaker 1: but it's nothing different from the classroom. Nobody's taking you
Speaker 1: out of the room. There's no pink drink or nothing introduced.
Speaker 1: It's just you might have like a smarter extra credit
Speaker 1: homework assignment you get to take home kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So it almost seems like it's like the light version
Speaker 1: of what it used to be. I mean not light
Speaker 1: like good, but I mean like light beer versus a
Speaker 1: regular beer. You know.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is that they can disguise it
Speaker 2: as whatever they want, and based on the state that
Speaker 2: you were in, it kind of depends on what you
Speaker 2: kind of get' from like a smaller town type of
Speaker 2: school than the Gate, then the gay program is probably
Speaker 2: not going to be very much different than But see,
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy four, there was this big thing that happened.
Speaker 2: Parents were getting really upset with the public school system
Speaker 2: and the state because they weren't able to get access
Speaker 2: to their child's school records. They were being banned from
Speaker 2: getting access to the child school records. And then they
Speaker 2: found out that the CIA was getting access to all
Speaker 2: their child school records and they weren't right, Oh damn.
Speaker 2: So they got really pissed off. And then they enacted
Speaker 2: this thing called FURPA right and FURPA was to be
Speaker 2: able to disclose children's school records in public school back
Speaker 2: to their parents and that the CIA could not get
Speaker 2: access to those records. Well, the CIA got pissed off.
Speaker 2: It was like, Hey, we're going to put in this
Speaker 2: amendment into the bill, into this FURPA Act that will
Speaker 2: essentially say that we can get an access to anybody
Speaker 2: any child school records that goes to school in public
Speaker 2: school in the United States, but also the parents can
Speaker 2: also get the records as well. So it didn't it
Speaker 2: didn't block the parents from getting the records, but it
Speaker 2: also allowed access for the CIA to still also get
Speaker 2: the records of the children in school, right, and this
Speaker 2: has happened since that time, and along with the Patriot
Speaker 2: Act completely destroyed anything from FURPA. So the Patriot Act
Speaker 2: allowed intelligence agencies and the government to literally get anything
Speaker 2: out of public school records such as test scores, behavioral patterns,
Speaker 2: anything that was recorded.
Speaker 1: Yes, so they could bust a brown kid.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, exactly, That's exactly what it was about. So
Speaker 2: that was another national security thing that they just slipped
Speaker 2: into the Patriot Act that they can now get access
Speaker 2: to any child's school records and anything that was ever
Speaker 2: written down about the school. So literally the government and
Speaker 2: the intelligence community has a record file on every single child,
Speaker 2: everything that they've done from the time that they entered
Speaker 2: public school until they get out of school and in
Speaker 2: college and they into their career. There's nothing that you
Speaker 2: can do about it. Nothing your parents can do about it,
Speaker 2: nothing you can do about it. It's just something that
Speaker 2: happens and something that exists, and something that will probably
Speaker 2: always happen. So that's kind of been so whenever they
Speaker 2: did that and they threw in that amendment to for
Speaker 2: they could essentially disguise what they were doing, and they
Speaker 2: would change the names of the GATE program. They would
Speaker 2: call them different names. They would switch it up and
Speaker 2: do different acronyms and different things for each program that
Speaker 2: they were starting. And that's not even getting into the
Speaker 2: teen behavioral modification schools that are essentially a giant MK
Speaker 2: Ultra centers that was kind of started in Utah that
Speaker 2: were outdoor retreatment camps for unruly teenagers and then went
Speaker 2: to actual facilities in New York and all across the
Speaker 2: United States for unruly teenagers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we've already told you know, the school system
Speaker 1: is basically, you know, a funnel a you know, a
Speaker 1: funnel or whatever you want to call it to the
Speaker 1: prison industrial complex. So it's interesting to be able to
Speaker 1: use like what you're talking about to segregate and find
Speaker 1: out who the unruly ones are, and then we can
Speaker 1: just kind of expedite that process a little bit. We'll
Speaker 1: take them over here, and it's still kind of almost
Speaker 1: like a free range of jail is what you're kind
Speaker 1: of describing.
Speaker 2: That's right. So you take the people that don't comply
Speaker 2: with this, and then you you put them into a
Speaker 2: very strict, basically like a boarding school, and it would
Speaker 2: be the equivalent of like a boarding school that you're
Speaker 2: in until you're eighteen, until you supposedly graduate from this
Speaker 2: teen behavioral modification school. There's a whole documentary about this
Speaker 2: on Netflix called cons Calts and Kidnapping Really Really, And
Speaker 2: where it started was in Utah with these outdoor retreat
Speaker 2: camps that what would last an entire summer and they
Speaker 2: would parents would literally pay a company and an organization
Speaker 2: money to come and kidnap their child out of their home.
Speaker 1: The shock, the trauma of it.
Speaker 2: Put them in an suv and then drive them to
Speaker 2: one of these facilities.
Speaker 1: Dude, that's wild.
Speaker 2: So all of this is connected. It's all connected to
Speaker 2: the behavioral modification schools, the boarding schools, the gate program.
Speaker 2: Then you got the Gateway experience, which was what people
Speaker 2: remember as having headphones on in public school where they
Speaker 2: would hear the frequencies and then the yeah yeah, a
Speaker 2: lot of people have been triggered by the Monroe Institute
Speaker 2: Gateway tapes. You know, the voice saying you should be
Speaker 2: hearing this in your right ear, you should be hearing
Speaker 2: my voice in your right ear. They've been triggered by
Speaker 2: that because they remember hearing something like that or that
Speaker 2: exact same thing in these hearing tests in public schools.
Speaker 2: So this is this is kind of combining a bunch
Speaker 2: of different things. In the Monroe Institute, Gateway tapes are
Speaker 2: to induce an out of body experience. Right, It's to
Speaker 2: activate your psychic abilities by being outside of your body.
Speaker 2: And many of the top remote viewers, Angela Ford, inside
Speaker 2: of my documentary Psychic Agent the gate Program available on
Speaker 2: Amazon Prime, said that the most advanced form of remote
Speaker 2: viewing is getting outside of your body, is astral traveling.
Speaker 2: So that's what the Gateway tapes were to do, was
Speaker 2: to induce an out of body experience. The Army literally
Speaker 2: sent military personnel to the Monroe Institute for two thousand
Speaker 2: dollars to study under Robert Monroe to see if being
Speaker 2: outside of your body would help facilitate and help them
Speaker 2: remote view better. All of these things are connected, and
Speaker 2: then you have the what is it the gans Feld experiment.
Speaker 2: I've been calling it the hands felt experiment. But I
Speaker 2: got so much stuff that I got to remember in
Speaker 2: my mind, and sometimes I enclopedia loose track of some things,
Speaker 2: and sometimes I mispronounce things. But it's called the gans
Speaker 2: Feld experiment g A. N. Z Feld, and this is
Speaker 2: to induce hallucinations and to activate psychic abilities. And you
Speaker 2: can essentially do this yourself by cutting a ping pong
Speaker 2: ball in half, taping them to your eyeballs, and taking
Speaker 2: a bright red light and shining it on your face.
Speaker 2: People that have done this for a long period of
Speaker 2: time experience something, They experience some form of psychic phenomena.
Speaker 2: They start seeing things, they essentially start hallucinating being raid in,
Speaker 2: which was on the Joe Rogan's Joe Rogan Experience was
Speaker 2: one of the people that helped in this research of
Speaker 2: the Gonsfeld experiment, and.
Speaker 1: It was also talking on like that, Yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 2: Well that's what they say, is that it's hallucinations. But
Speaker 2: I don't know how different hallucination is between a hallucination
Speaker 2: in real life, you know what I mean, Like something's
Speaker 2: got to be there might just open up you to
Speaker 2: a different type of reality. But it's very easy to do.
Speaker 2: But that also connects into the the three D goggle thing, Right,
Speaker 2: what if it wasn't just three D goggles, it was
Speaker 2: something like the god Fold experiment, where so they would
Speaker 2: if you gave a child a some kind of drug,
Speaker 2: which we're under the assumption we can't prove that the
Speaker 2: drink or the pink drink or the orange drink or
Speaker 2: whatever it was was some kind of drug. But I'm
Speaker 2: suspecting that it was some form of drug, possibly a
Speaker 2: hallucinogenic substance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Or maybe like a
Speaker 1: truth truth searamy kind of thing or listening in. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Your inhibitions you losen up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you could be taken out of the classroom.
Speaker 2: You can be told to take this drink. You could
Speaker 2: be put inside of another classroom, put you'd have the
Speaker 2: headphones on that are to induce an out of body experience,
Speaker 2: and then you put the goggles on.
Speaker 1: And then you see what do you think is.
Speaker 2: Going to happen? Right? I mean you can look at
Speaker 2: the the Gateway, the Project Gateway Monroe Institute CIA documents
Speaker 2: that were released and basically the entire plan and the
Speaker 2: entire thing behind the Gateway experience of inducing and out
Speaker 2: of body experience is to get outside of your body
Speaker 2: and communicate with non human intelligences and bring information back
Speaker 2: to this uh condunity.
Speaker 1: You're conuit Eric Conduit. Yeah, it's like I can't make
Speaker 1: the thing and a lot of people. It's a movie
Speaker 1: that got kind of slept on and I've loved it
Speaker 1: ever since it came out. I've always been a woozda
Speaker 1: and conspiracies and government cover up some military shit. Do
Speaker 1: you remember the movie The Minister at Goats?
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, that's in my movie. Is literally that's that's
Speaker 2: the character inside of that movie, lynn Lyn Cassidy limb Buchanan.
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole movie isn't based on limb Buchanan.
Speaker 2: It's based on a lot of different things that a
Speaker 2: lot of different people's stories that were involved in the
Speaker 2: program and in the unit and results kind of based
Speaker 2: on another unit that was either or happened in Texas,
Speaker 2: North Carolina or northern California. I can't really pin it down,
Speaker 2: but it was apparently called Project Delta, which was to
Speaker 2: bring in the psychic aspect into a combat version, so
Speaker 2: they were using psychic abilities within combat. So they basically
Speaker 2: took information from that unit that was a real unit
Speaker 2: and the Stargate Project Unit psychond spy unit, and they
Speaker 2: combined it and then they made their movie, which the
Speaker 2: movie was really really ridiculing that type of intelligence activity.
Speaker 2: But it's very real. I mean, that's what the first
Speaker 2: hour of my documentary is all about, is the history
Speaker 2: of the Stargate project.
Speaker 1: That's what's crazy about that movie is it came out.
Speaker 1: I want to say, Okay, dude, I was I think
Speaker 1: I just graduated high school. So maybe it's like two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine or something like that. So the movie's
Speaker 1: going on twenty years old at this point, right, I
Speaker 1: give or take right. But it's crazy because I loved
Speaker 1: it from the get go, because I was like, I
Speaker 1: get this movie. You know, like, yeah, there's comedy in it,
Speaker 1: and that's why other people kind of dug it. But
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I get this movie. I know,
Speaker 1: like I know what they're saying in this movie. You know,
Speaker 1: You're like, this is insane that they're putting this much
Speaker 1: in there. And then like they almost wouldn't dare make
Speaker 1: a movie like that on the nose today, even though
Speaker 1: they put all their little subtle bullshit movies nowadays. Still,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, that's kind of weird, like they just
Speaker 1: disclosed all this crap when nobody was really paying attention
Speaker 1: to that subject. If you know what I'm kind of saying.
Speaker 1: It's like nothing that there wasn't but there wasn't as
Speaker 1: much interest as now, like post COVID, everybody wants to
Speaker 1: know everything, right, But then it's like, we'll just dump
Speaker 1: all this crap and old movies and if people pick
Speaker 1: it up, what are they gonna do it? Like conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory with Mel Gibson, that's another one. It's just like
Speaker 1: line after line in that movie has proven true, but
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that's old enough that Yeah, they didn't
Speaker 1: catch it at the time. But I don't know, dude,
Speaker 1: Minister at Goats. It's such a revealing movie with such
Speaker 1: a good comedy blend. I don't know if they did
Speaker 1: that on purpose or what of, Like with all this
Speaker 1: truth in the movie and then just make you laugh
Speaker 1: at Jeff Bridges and Ewan McGregor and George Gloody and
Speaker 1: of course Kevin Spacey's weird asses in there, of course,
Speaker 1: but all star cast. Great movie. But man, it's so
Speaker 1: revealing and I wish more people saw it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it was disguised with comedy, you know,
Speaker 2: that was the way to bring it to the four.
Speaker 2: But it's very real. I mean According to Lim Buchanan
Speaker 2: in the movie Psychic Agent, the Gay Program It, he
Speaker 2: says that that was very real, that there really was
Speaker 2: a program to see if they could kill a goat
Speaker 2: with their mind. And we also get into can you
Speaker 2: control somebody psychically? Right? Could Russia do that? That was
Speaker 2: the whole thing. Russia was actually doing this program called
Speaker 2: Donnie Gibnos, which is hypnosis at a distance. Right, they
Speaker 2: could literally get inside of somebody's head and play thoughts
Speaker 2: and ideas and beliefs into their head to try and
Speaker 2: control and manipulate them. Russia was doing this, and I
Speaker 2: highly suspect that, you know, the United States was also
Speaker 2: doing this as well. It's hard to believe that Russia
Speaker 2: could be doing something that the United States wasn't doing.
Speaker 1: Right, Russia is so evil, but everything they do we
Speaker 1: chase right behind it, or vice versus. Is that China
Speaker 1: and America conversation now too like? But yeah, dude, of course,
Speaker 1: if they're doing it, we're doing it.
Speaker 2: So I suspect After Stargate was shut down in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety five, the program went super dark, super underground. They
Speaker 2: couldn't take anybody that was involved in that program into
Speaker 2: something more nefarious. So then they got other people that could.
Speaker 2: Essentially they opened up a remote influencing group, a government
Speaker 2: funded sponsored remote influencing program that could go as far
Speaker 2: as some form of psychic assassination.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, you said, I just googled real quick, Stargate
Speaker 1: ended in ninety five. The movie Stargate came out in
Speaker 1: ninety four, So it's just another passing on the torch
Speaker 1: of like you know, nowadays, you googled Disney Frozen, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get Elsa and let it go. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: get the story of Disney's Frozen head. And all that
Speaker 1: point is is, you know, it's like they're almost a
Speaker 1: racing history of like, hey, we did these other things month.
Speaker 1: By the way, this big blockbuster movie came out, So
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna associate it with now from now on.
Speaker 1: Just kind of popped in my Schitzo brain.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. And also the what was the one of the
Speaker 2: first things Trump announced whenever he became president again, he
Speaker 2: announced Stargate AI.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yep. And then you know it's like,
Speaker 1: how true is terminator to becoming and it's in this
Speaker 1: and age, it's like, okay, so let's kind of get
Speaker 1: into this a little bit in like a modern sense.
Speaker 1: We got about five more minutes left in a modern sense.
Speaker 1: All right, now, this is just spitballing off the idea,
Speaker 1: but like almost, it's like Kurt Metzker says, like we
Speaker 1: went from MK Ultra to MK Retard. Like we're all
Speaker 1: in the MK ultra now. It's not just like black
Speaker 1: bagging people off the streets or given LS data, Random
Speaker 1: John's and Operation Midnight Climax. It's like, no, we all
Speaker 1: have you know, Operation Retard in our hands every day,
Speaker 1: our phone, you know. And it's like, are we under
Speaker 1: this weird kind of mind control of Like you know,
Speaker 1: you see these riots, you see these things, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, all these people perfectly organize. Like Tripoli says,
Speaker 1: if you've got kids, try to set a birthday party
Speaker 1: up and see if it goes right. If you're on
Speaker 1: a podcast, try to keep a fucking at least one
Speaker 1: episode a week going without problems. I'm just saying, like
Speaker 1: nothing ever works out perfectly fine, But how do all
Speaker 1: these crazy chaotic events always perfectly orchestrate? Just like that? Like,
Speaker 1: are we under mind control? Right now?
Speaker 2: Well? I think there's a lot of magic that can
Speaker 2: be done with the Internet. You can you can literally
Speaker 2: say something is happening and it doesn't really have to
Speaker 2: be happening.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like manifested almost you.
Speaker 2: Can say that there's this, uh giant riot going on,
Speaker 2: and there might not actually be a giant riot going on.
Speaker 1: If you're not there, you can't prove it. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, And.
Speaker 2: That's not to say, that's not to say that the
Speaker 2: things aren't the real things don't happen. I one hundred
Speaker 2: percent believe real things happen. But it's like, dude, they've
Speaker 2: they've had this under control for such a long time.
Speaker 2: I mean, they've had AI for decades before the public
Speaker 2: ever got AI. That's just the act. We don't get
Speaker 2: anything before the military has been using it for decades.
Speaker 2: We had advanced military drones okay, that was being made
Speaker 2: in New Mexico.
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 2: I believe that autonomous military drones.
Speaker 1: We had remote control callers. Why wouldn't we have drones
Speaker 1: exactly so?
Speaker 2: And then when did the public start getting drones. Let's see,
Speaker 2: maybe early two thousands, maybe.
Speaker 1: You guess about fifteen years ago this, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they had that capability for way longer than
Speaker 2: the public ever got access to it. So how long
Speaker 2: have they had the ability to just create something that's
Speaker 2: not even real? I would say for a long ass time.
Speaker 2: This is why the military wanted to be involved with Hollywood.
Speaker 2: This is why the Air Force had a giant military
Speaker 2: base on Lookout Mountain right outside of La Yes, where
Speaker 2: they had a sound stage and they had a freaking
Speaker 2: bunch of recording studios where thousands and thousands of military
Speaker 2: films were made up there that nobody knows what they
Speaker 2: were because they're all still classified.
Speaker 1: They might have had a moon landing there too, could.
Speaker 2: Have been, could have been. So it's like, with the
Speaker 2: amount of stuff that has been going on, it's just like, bro,
Speaker 2: I don't like, I don't know how we can take
Speaker 2: you really anything that we see like a face value.
Speaker 2: If you weren't there and you didn't experience it, then
Speaker 2: I would question it. Let's just me personally, I would
Speaker 2: just question it. You know.
Speaker 1: I like that, And it's that's what's that's what makes
Speaker 1: things real and not real anymore. Yes, you're right, because
Speaker 1: your algorithm is gonna lie to you. It's gonna it's
Speaker 1: gonna show you hate filled things and whatever else and whatnot,
Speaker 1: just to make you scared of the world. So if
Speaker 1: you're scared of the world, you're never gonna go visit
Speaker 1: some other place because you heard some story that got
Speaker 1: shared fifty times of some one thing or just whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm just spitballing, but yeah, it's like, you know, things
Speaker 1: get blown out of proportion. Triple He talked about when
Speaker 1: he went to whatever it was, Oregon or Washington where
Speaker 1: they had Chaz and Chop and all that shit. It's like,
Speaker 1: where's all the protests at and then somebody the uber
Speaker 1: driver had to drive him around. He's like, this is
Speaker 1: just this like small little square block over here, Like
Speaker 1: this is it? You know, it's so it's it's projection.
Speaker 1: They're just making it bigger on you know, camera angles.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, let's see the protesters on the one
Speaker 1: eighty degree camera. Oh, there's not anybody over there. They're
Speaker 1: all perfectly positioned in front of you in front of
Speaker 1: the camera.
Speaker 2: So you know, this is a very big. Good example,
Speaker 2: very good example is COVID. Okay, you remember when ever
Speaker 2: COVID happened and everyone was like, the hospitals are overrun,
Speaker 2: there's no place for anybody to go. Yeah, but blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, and then people are going around and the
Speaker 2: hospital is completely empty. Right. They did this with also
Speaker 2: with Joe Rogan as well, whenever he got sick with
Speaker 2: COVID and then he did ivermectin and a bunch of
Speaker 2: different other treatments, and then CNN did that big, huge
Speaker 2: story on him saying that that people were at the
Speaker 2: hospital because they had had taken horse pace or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then they what's funny is I'm Oklahoma and the
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone magazine is one who shared that it was
Speaker 1: people a fucking winter coats, Oklahoma. It's one hundred and
Speaker 1: four degrees outside right now. That's when they shared that story.
Speaker 1: Was in the middle of summer exactly, dude.
Speaker 2: So that's how easy that it can be done. It
Speaker 2: doesn't even have to be a fake AI thing. You
Speaker 2: can just be footage from whatever. I mean. The news
Speaker 2: has gotten in trouble for using footage of freaking video games. Bro.
Speaker 2: They literally got in trouble for using an assassin's creed
Speaker 2: a stab shot, like, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: They did that with Ukraine too. It was like a
Speaker 1: ace combat or some video or fucking whatever. The Ghost
Speaker 1: to Kiev, remember that, the Ghost to Kiev? And then
Speaker 1: it was like ace combat seven or something here, like
Speaker 1: you've retards.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that video of that lady that that
Speaker 2: was in Ukraine whenever something got bombed and then she
Speaker 2: just went over and picked up a giant piece of
Speaker 2: freaking block.
Speaker 1: Bro, Yeah, exactly, yes, I remember that.
Speaker 2: Like it was nothing like an old ass lady Bro
Speaker 2: just went and picked up a giant freaking boulder.
Speaker 1: This Amazon Prime TV show, you know, ninety pounds, hi, Bro,
Speaker 1: it's all fake and gay. That's the thing. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you try not to get black pilled about it,
Speaker 1: but I think the reality is is to stay in
Speaker 1: the gray pill area. And that's kind of how I
Speaker 1: ended last week for the last episode two is it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I get into a black pill mode a
Speaker 1: lot of time, even though it's like we got to
Speaker 1: keep on keeping on. I got kids, I got a wife,
Speaker 1: I got a family, got work, I got bills. So
Speaker 1: you deal with that shit, but you still pay attention
Speaker 1: to other things that are like, man, it sounds like
Speaker 1: we're kind of booked. But but as long as we're
Speaker 1: aware and we still keep being I guess, good people
Speaker 1: and trying to spread the truth to our friends that like,
Speaker 1: not everything is this catastrophic event. Hey, look into this
Speaker 1: a little bit more than what the news is telling you.
Speaker 1: It's like we're just trying to spread seeds. We don't
Speaker 1: have answers to shit. I mean, you've got more answers
Speaker 1: to things than I do. But in this conspiracy world,
Speaker 1: every time we ask a question, we get fifty more questions,
Speaker 1: not fifty answers.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: But dude, writer, I love this, man. I would love
Speaker 1: to do like I've been really digging into AI data centers,
Speaker 1: flock cameras, all the above, this mass surveillance techno state
Speaker 1: rolling in right now. I'd love to do a follow
Speaker 1: up episode of like where this shit is trajecting to
Speaker 1: next of where we live?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: But man, remind everybody about the DVD, the documentary, everything
Speaker 1: else you've done where they can find you, and I'll
Speaker 1: have all your links in the show notes too, brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really quickly. I think that the AI data centers
Speaker 2: are a giant operation to build large underground facilities. So
Speaker 2: you build up the outer structure of the giant thing,
Speaker 2: and then you just build underground, and you use the
Speaker 2: the facility that you built above ground as cover for
Speaker 2: the thing that's happening underground.
Speaker 1: And if anybody, if anybody ever questions you, then it's, oh,
Speaker 1: why is the ground shaking?
Speaker 2: Why why does this fell like bombs? Well, we're building
Speaker 2: an AI data center, bro shut up.
Speaker 1: Frequency.
Speaker 2: The flock cameras, I believe are not only a surveillance
Speaker 2: uh tracking facility, but it's also a data extraction uh
Speaker 2: to get things off of your devices and your phone
Speaker 2: through a Bluetooth setup. So they're emitting a Bluetooth frequency
Speaker 2: whenever you drive by or walk by the extract all
Speaker 2: of your information off of your phone and then compile
Speaker 2: it and then put it into a data center. But
Speaker 2: thanks so much for having me on, brother, really appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: and thanks for having me on. Brother, really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I love it, brother, Well stidheads, guys, go check it out. Man,
Speaker 1: Psychic Agent? Am I a psychic Agent? I was in
Speaker 1: the Gate Program? I'm being fasttious or am I? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Man, A lot of these things like a
Speaker 1: cut talk, but in the beginning, I don't remember half
Speaker 1: of that weird era. But let's just say, man, there's
Speaker 1: some strangeness to these things, and at least we are
Speaker 1: waking up to them and starting to notice them. So, guys,
Speaker 1: in conclusion, everything is a fucking conspiracy. You know, everything
Speaker 1: is a lie, and it's just up to us to
Speaker 1: dissect the lie. We need to be our own detectives.
Speaker 1: We need to, you know, if something feels off, trust
Speaker 1: your gut, start dissecting it. Might lead to bullshit, might
Speaker 1: actually lead to some redemption or something whatever. I don't know, guys,
Speaker 1: but either way, I'll see you next time. Peace. Houstads baye,
Speaker 1: Bye bye,