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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Hey, Hey, how you doing this clip? Your host

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<v Speaker 1>of Earth Agents. Welcome Monday, have a sea, let's talk.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a fun week. We are in the process

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<v Speaker 1>of planning a first only, well I should say first

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<v Speaker 1>ever tour to guac Damala. I've been wanting to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Guatemala for God for a couple of decades. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you why I'm excited that to call these

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<v Speaker 1>archaeological parks with this, which is uh. They're all over

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<v Speaker 1>at Guatemala, uh in the surrounding areas. They are much

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<v Speaker 1>more open about connecting the local authorities. Are much more

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<v Speaker 1>open than in Mexico. And in Tikal, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>prominent ruin, you can actually climb pyramids and I have

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working with Lydia de Leong and her husband Arturo

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<v Speaker 1>to plan this tour, which is going to be December

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<v Speaker 1>first through now the thirteenth we think, or twelfth, twelfth

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<v Speaker 1>or thirteenth, and it is packed full of lectures by

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<v Speaker 1>local archaeologists as well as native shaman. And I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what's unique about this tour is when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a shaman opening you to the energy of the pyramids.

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<v Speaker 1>When you go to the parks, you are connected. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with this now in Mexico is that the church,

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<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church, has instilled in the government a no

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<v Speaker 1>ceremony rule that this disconnects you. So we used to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to have a shaman work with us, bless

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<v Speaker 1>us and open us as we went into these parks.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is also academics and the field archaeologists we've

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<v Speaker 1>walked with, and now you can't do that. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot be in the park and do any ceremonies whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is all Mexico. It makes a huge difference

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<v Speaker 1>when you're trying to understand get information intuitively or directly

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<v Speaker 1>from these ancient places, and you're kind of thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about intuition things, Well, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>at these sacred sites, and god knows how many times

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<v Speaker 1>I've been talking about these energy feels that John Burke

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<v Speaker 1>discovered in his work using equipment, you know, magnometers and

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<v Speaker 1>other equipment to test the energy feels. When you can't

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<v Speaker 1>connect with them, you're losing out on a great deal.

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<v Speaker 1>So these tours, this tour we're doing in Guatemala December

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<v Speaker 1>first through the twelfth, is unique because we won't be

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<v Speaker 1>able to expand on what we know, interact with the pyramids,

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<v Speaker 1>and actually climb and sit on pyramids in many of

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<v Speaker 1>the locations we go. Now, this tour is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be twenty twenty five people, probably twenty I'm thinking twenty max,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've already got half the group filled. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>interested in joining us, go to Earth Ancients, send me

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<v Speaker 1>an email at Earth Ancients for you at gmail dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>and I promise to get back to you and put

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<v Speaker 1>you on the list. I'm gonna have Lydia and Autorro

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<v Speaker 1>on the program probably later in this month, to talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about It. Won't be a whole program,

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<v Speaker 1>will just kind of be kind of an overview of

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<v Speaker 1>what you can expect. I'm excited. I think if you're

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<v Speaker 1>interested in anything having to do with pyramids, this should

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<v Speaker 1>be a consideration of yours, simply because it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>the Maya pyramids were also blueprinted in other places around

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<v Speaker 1>the world, so some fund to be had, so look

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<v Speaker 1>for that. It's the Ancients. Guatemala's Sacred Tour Pyramid Sacred

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<v Speaker 1>Pyramid Tour in De simmer of this year. Today's program

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<v Speaker 1>is about the Great Flood Our guest is doctor Michael Jay.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Michael on the program way back in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen when he released a book called The Worldwide Flood,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't realize how much beating he took from

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<v Speaker 1>the archaeological community, I actould say the geological community, who

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<v Speaker 1>was very resistant to his discovery and his findings. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that makes his work so compelling

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<v Speaker 1>are the underwater scans that he uses in his book

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<v Speaker 1>and also in an article that we'll refer to today that

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<v Speaker 1>I will be presenting called the Flooding of the Mediterranean Basin.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a piece that came out in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen that describes the Great Flood and the effects of

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<v Speaker 1>huge water increases in the Mediterranean area. But it's all

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<v Speaker 1>crystal clear when you look at Google Maps, and up

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<v Speaker 1>until very very recently, you had to spend oh geez,

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred dollars a year to download a version of

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<v Speaker 1>the Google Maps pro which would actually dive into the

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<v Speaker 1>ocean several one hundred feet if not more, and also

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<v Speaker 1>combine different kinds of sites, scan sonars and things like

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<v Speaker 1>that to really see with detail the evidence of flooding.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you'll hear in this interview today suggested that you,

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<v Speaker 1>the listener, go to Google and download the maps. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>go download Google Earth. Google Earth. It's free, and I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you it is the most wonderful tool to

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<v Speaker 1>study not only landforms but also the water. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you do that, you're given an opportunity to see what

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth was like twelve thousand years ago. Because, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll bring this up today, not only the Mediterranean, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacific coast, the Atlantic coast, much of the European

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<v Speaker 1>coastline from the Netherlands all the way down to Italy

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<v Speaker 1>was much different twelve thousand years ago, and the sea

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<v Speaker 1>levels arose as much as a mile in some places.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll learn know about this today. But consider getting

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<v Speaker 1>a copy of Google Earth because it's free. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the most amazing tool. And I'll tell you what else

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<v Speaker 1>it's great for. They continually updated with satellite imagery. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're curious about, say the Great Pyramids, you can

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<v Speaker 1>you can punch in Giza Plateau, or even simplify it

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<v Speaker 1>and say Giza Pyramids and it will take you directly

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<v Speaker 1>to that location in Egypt, Cairo, Egypt, and as you

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<v Speaker 1>fly over them, you're getting the latest satellite scans that

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<v Speaker 1>are used by geologists, archaeologists and other field scientists to

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<v Speaker 1>study the pyramids, to study the Giza plateau, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have an up close personal look at these these these artifacts.

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<v Speaker 1>Now even more interesting if you've caught the interview I

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<v Speaker 1>did with Robert Schock and UH doctor Manu Safes today, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you can see the Coffrey and Cufu pyramids and get

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of just how big they are. Uh, they're

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<v Speaker 1>dimensions and what's really uh, I think critical is as

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<v Speaker 1>you're drawing down from miles above the atmosphere into the land,

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<v Speaker 1>you see how perfectly shaped they are. They're really amazing

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenon and it really makes you wonder who built these things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely not dynastic pharaohs, you know. And the more

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<v Speaker 1>we get engineering to study these things, more science that's

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<v Speaker 1>involved in in reviewing and analyzing these magnificent structures. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not from any epic known to us now. They're earlier epics.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we talk about the the Yugas, and we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the Trita and the Satia. These are Satia

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<v Speaker 1>creations or they are Treata traitions. Because the the the

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<v Speaker 1>labor and the precision of the cutting of the blocks

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<v Speaker 1>isn't from any period that we're familiar with or historic

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<v Speaker 1>period that we're familiar with. But as we begin studying

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<v Speaker 1>and using more scanning tools and technology and open our

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<v Speaker 1>brains a little bit and not get stuck on dates,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're seeing that these are magnificent buildings to

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<v Speaker 1>the previous epochs. We don't know if it's Satia or Trita,

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<v Speaker 1>but whatever they are, they're significantly older than a few

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years. And it's sad that these Egyptologists are so

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<v Speaker 1>locked into their theories that they can't see the real

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of the engineering feats of these buildings, of these pyramids. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>while you're at the Giza plateau, take a look at

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<v Speaker 1>the sphinx. See the evidence of before and after. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I say before, the body of the sphinx is

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<v Speaker 1>part of the original stone that was cut out of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, solid rock, it's a solid stone sculpture. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you can see the repair job that the Pharaohs

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<v Speaker 1>did a few you know, a few thousand years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and how oddly out of place that the head is

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<v Speaker 1>of that figure. It doesn't look it doesn't fit at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you can't get that kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>photograph from standing on the ground. You have to be

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<v Speaker 1>way above it. So check it out Google Maps, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>Google Earth, and you just drop it in to yours

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<v Speaker 1>an application. It's a it's a tool. It'll sit on

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<v Speaker 1>your desktop, it's going to be loaded on your hard drive.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can access it and go around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>go to Africa, wherever you're interested in, you know, check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Check out the Stone Hinge, check out the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Pyramid at Tuna coup Uh. Check out El Castillo

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<v Speaker 1>in Yucatan. Check out Cousco. Check out Cusco. Checkout Soxy Woman.

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<v Speaker 1>See what they look at look like from above. They're fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just fascinating. And what a great tool, and it's free.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't ask for better than that. Now, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say this, if you have an older computer, it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a challenge to use it because it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be slowing it down because it takes a lot of memory. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>not so great with phones, are not so great with

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<v Speaker 1>pads because it takes again, it takes a lot of memory.

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<v Speaker 1>So you need a desktop or or a laptop or

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<v Speaker 1>a If you do have a pad, it's gotta have

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<v Speaker 1>enough memories to support the use of the tool, So

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<v Speaker 1>Google Earth. So that's part of the discussion today. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>even more important is the fact that the flood which

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<v Speaker 1>happened during the towards the end of the Younger Drives

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<v Speaker 1>was caused by the impact of a asteroid. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna learn just how damaging this asteroid was, how far

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<v Speaker 1>in advance they knew about it. We'll get reference from

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<v Speaker 1>go Beckley Teppe, which according to Michael, and we've heard

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<v Speaker 1>this from other people. I think we heard it from

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Collins and perhaps Graham Hancock. There's a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>the t pillars at go Beckley Teppy that reference a

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<v Speaker 1>ball of light coming towards Earth, and Michael will tell

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<v Speaker 1>us exactly which one it was, whether some of the details.

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<v Speaker 1>This is critical to know because perhaps our ancestors had

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<v Speaker 1>some time to prepare before the impact, likely not, because

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<v Speaker 1>there was nothing before that. It had been millions of years,

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<v Speaker 1>tens of millions of years since the last impact. But

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<v Speaker 1>this impact, this global impact, was so significant that it

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<v Speaker 1>caused worldwide flooding. And that's our program today is all

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<v Speaker 1>about the world wide flood. So the program today is

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<v Speaker 1>Earth's Great Flood, and my guest today is doctor Michael j.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Spring is just around the corner where there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>slash Tours come out and join us. We haven't talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the the Great Flood, the Biblical flood, the flood

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<v Speaker 1>that basically was caused by an asteroid impact. We're sponsoring

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<v Speaker 1>the Cosmic Summit coming up in June, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that program is based on research evidence of a

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<v Speaker 1>global wide flood. My guest today, my returning guest, is

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Michael J. We had Michael on a few years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and he presents a great deal of wonderful data

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<v Speaker 1>on geological evidence of a great flood in a book

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<v Speaker 1>called The Worldwide Flood. Came out in twenty seventeen. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's revised it a couple of different times. Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>He is also a confirmed catastrophist and also has lectured

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<v Speaker 1>to places like the Geological Society of America and other locations.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on Guia. He did a series on Gaia,

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<v Speaker 1>and what makes him amazing is that he uses actual

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<v Speaker 1>of this flood, and a great deal of more data

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<v Speaker 1>in his books on his book on just what has

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<v Speaker 1>happened and strangely why geologists seem to be unable to

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<v Speaker 1>the ghost and admit that there was a great flood.

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<v Speaker 1>So hey, Michael, great to have you back on Earth Ancients.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you. It's great to be back. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for inviting me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I want to mention also the reason that we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this is that at the time, my producer, Gail

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<v Speaker 1>Torr said, do you know Michael wrote a paper called

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<v Speaker 1>the Flooding of the Mediterranean Basin? And I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. So she sent me this paper, which I

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to look at, and my god, is

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<v Speaker 1>it profound. It's an amazing paper. Michael talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about this paper and it's after the book was written, right,

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, you wrote the book, and then was

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<v Speaker 1>it the research you were doing on the book that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of revealed this Mediterranean flood?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Like I said, the book was meant merely I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted historical credit for figuring out the biggest error in

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<v Speaker 2>the history of science. So it's kind of a plant

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<v Speaker 2>the flag. I made no money off the book. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been a dud, and actually I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 2>advertise it. Well, what's important is the flooding of the

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<v Speaker 2>Mediterranean basin of the younger dryest boundary. It was published

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty nineteen. It caused a bit of a stir,

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<v Speaker 2>but geologists have ignored it since. And what it does,

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<v Speaker 2>it actually follows scientific method. It's almost akin to Galileo.

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<v Speaker 2>What Galileo did, he used this new instrument, the telescope,

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<v Speaker 2>which gave him new data. And the data that he

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<v Speaker 2>had was that the moons of Jupiter went around Jupiter,

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<v Speaker 2>and that put an end to the idea of geocentris

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<v Speaker 2>that the Earth was the center of the universe. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so Google in twenty around twenty ten or so, not

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<v Speaker 2>long after I had moved to California in the Monterey

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<v Speaker 2>area Google publishes its maps, and someone who knew me

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<v Speaker 2>very well from when I was much younger and knew

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<v Speaker 2>of my interest in nature and science, said, you know, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta take a look at Monterey Canyon. And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>Monterey Canyon. So I went home, turned on Google Maps,

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<v Speaker 2>and I looked at this feature that's in Monterey Bay

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a river system. It's a river system that

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<v Speaker 2>goes one hundred miles offshore. And I kind of looked

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<v Speaker 2>turns out it's not just money. There are river systems

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<v Speaker 2>that go down into the abyss now covered under more

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<v Speaker 2>than two miles of water, and they're found throughout the planet,

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<v Speaker 2>coastal regions under over all continents, to include Antarctica. So

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<v Speaker 2>I said to myself, So I knew that that science

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<v Speaker 2>how could this possibly be? So if you've been in

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<v Speaker 2>a most of your listeners have been in a swimming pool,

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<v Speaker 2>and at the side of the swimming pool, we have

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<v Speaker 2>these jets that are projecting water into the basin. Right

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<v Speaker 2>how far from that jet do you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>before you can't feel the water? It's probably like a

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<v Speaker 2>foot or two, right, because water really doesn't flow well

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<v Speaker 2>in water. So I had I've been I was a

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<v Speaker 2>had kind of so, something's wrong. How can we have

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<v Speaker 2>river systems underwater under two miles of water that go

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of miles off into the abyss if there was

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<v Speaker 2>never flood? And so I said to myself, something's wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's figure it out. And so the question I asked

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<v Speaker 2>myself is why do we believe that there was never

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<v Speaker 2>a worldwide flood?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me stop you real quickly, hang on one second.

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<v Speaker 1>So sure you're saying that for the most part, academic

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<v Speaker 1>geologists are not recognizing a worldwide flood because that's just

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<v Speaker 1>in their training or they're not even looking.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's actually a great question that this gives you

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<v Speaker 2>an idea. When you see these rivers, right, when you

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<v Speaker 2>see these rivers underwater, submerged under two miles of water,

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<v Speaker 2>When you see these systems, you can see the meanders,

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<v Speaker 2>you can see oxpos, you can see how they joined

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<v Speaker 2>in different places. When you see that data, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you recognize that geologists right now to this present second,

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<v Speaker 2>maintain that there was never a flood. It gives you

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<v Speaker 2>the idea impression of how perva and yes, I guess pervasive.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the influence that this no flood has, this

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<v Speaker 2>no flood tenant, it's a paradigm that it has over

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<v Speaker 2>all of science, in particular geologists, because a geologist should

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<v Speaker 2>say to hisself or herself, golly, how can we have

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<v Speaker 2>rivers under two miles of water? A great So that

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<v Speaker 2>gives you an idea of how pervasive this is. Hancock,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a quotation from Graham Hancock that talks about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be a very difficult thing for an academic

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<v Speaker 2>to believe that there was a flood, because he or

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<v Speaker 2>she would be subject to rebuke from his or her colleague.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that pervasive. Okay, So why is it that we

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<v Speaker 2>to this day believe that there was never a flood?

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<v Speaker 2>And it goes back to the early part of the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteenth century, early eighteen hundreds, and there's a gentleman named

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Sedgwick who is leading the effort to find evidence

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<v Speaker 2>of the flood. He and his colleagues throughout Europe are

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<v Speaker 2>searching for remnants of a flood. So now if you

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<v Speaker 2>think about you know, I live on a stream right

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<v Speaker 2>behind the house yard. We got a stream, and whenever

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<v Speaker 2>there's a flood on that stream, there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that the stream deposits at the high water mark

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<v Speaker 2>and then on the water receige you get that deposit layer.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's what these geologists said about to do.

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<v Speaker 2>They said about Europe looking for signs of that flood

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<v Speaker 2>and what they found. In fact, they even found that

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<v Speaker 2>glaciers deposited things, but they couldn't find a common deposit layer.

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<v Speaker 2>And because they couldn't find a deposit layer, Sedgwick concluded

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<v Speaker 2>that there was never a flood. Now, this guy Sedgwick,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a Cambridge University professor. He was a president

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<v Speaker 2>of the Geological Society of London, and he was a

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<v Speaker 2>ordained minister in the Church of England. So here's Cedric

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<v Speaker 2>in eighteen thirty one. He gets in front of his

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<v Speaker 2>uh the president's addressed to the Geological Society of London.

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<v Speaker 2>After great reflection he comes out and he says, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is a quote. He says, the vast masses of

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<v Speaker 2>deluvial gravel did not belong to one violent and transitory

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<v Speaker 2>period it was indeed a most unwarmanted conclusion when we

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<v Speaker 2>assume the contemporaneity of all the superficial gravels on earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Having been myself a believer in a worldwide flood, and

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<v Speaker 2>to the best of my power, a propagator of what

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<v Speaker 2>I now regards a scientific heresy, I think it right

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<v Speaker 2>to publicly recant my belief. Wow, so here he is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's big news. Yes, this great academic of his time,

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<v Speaker 2>he comes out and he renounces his belief in the

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<v Speaker 2>worldwide flood.

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<v Speaker 1>Here that carries over into all future textbooks. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's two hundred years later. It's locked in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's locked in, and so yes, not just that it's

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<v Speaker 2>celebrated as the triumph of science over religion, which really

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<v Speaker 2>is a misnomer. It's really the triumph of science over

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<v Speaker 2>the narrative tradition, or human narrative tradition. It's not just

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible that has a flood narrative. There are almost

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<v Speaker 2>every culture throughout the planet has some form of a

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<v Speaker 2>flood narrative. That's probably changed over time, but nonetheless, the

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<v Speaker 2>flood is a part of our history, despite the last

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred years. So what's the error, right, So what's

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<v Speaker 2>the error. Let's talk about what Sedgwick got wrong. Where

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<v Speaker 2>did he look? Well, he looked about presently, So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to use that phrase. I'll use the phrase where

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<v Speaker 2>we are now, which is synonymous to presently exposed landscapes.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I wanted to get technical, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>there's subaria landscape, the landscapes that are under the air

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<v Speaker 2>but not submerged. Okay, So Sedgwick could only investigate where

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<v Speaker 2>we are now presently exposed landscape. He couldn't look under right.

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<v Speaker 2>We had to wait two hundred years for Google to

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<v Speaker 2>publish its maps. So here's Sedgwick's error. He should have

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<v Speaker 2>concluded that where we are now was never subjected to

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<v Speaker 2>a common flood. That's a true statement. No one would

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<v Speaker 2>argue with it. It's absolutely true. But that's not the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing as saying there was never a world wide flood.

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<v Speaker 2>He went too far. He assumed that the present amount

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<v Speaker 2>of water in the oceans has always been there. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a huge mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did he Where did he look when he was

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<v Speaker 2>He seems on horseback he was he was riding through

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<v Speaker 2>the valleys and the planes of Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, he went through Europe. He didn't goge was just him.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just Sedric. There were folks, other folks join

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<v Speaker 2>him in this effort. But he's the one who got

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<v Speaker 2>in front of the geological siding and said, I no

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<v Speaker 2>longer believe there was a flood. So now it's a

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<v Speaker 2>huge mistake. Right, he assumed away the very event he

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<v Speaker 2>was looking for. Right, so now two hundred years of science. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of PhDs out there in geology,

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<v Speaker 2>in particular submarines, gio morphology. There are people out there

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<v Speaker 2>investigating the causes of these submerged river systems. Right. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's so these people they have to maintain that there

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<v Speaker 2>was no flood, otherwise their degrees are worthless. Right, But

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<v Speaker 2>now here so I think I told you, or I'm

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<v Speaker 2>tired of fighting, I'm tired of being ridiculed. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>I'm too old.

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<v Speaker 1>We should mention to our listeners that you've put up

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<v Speaker 1>a big battle because the academic world has been after

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<v Speaker 1>you to recant your your theories of a global flood.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they just just ignore it. Right, But let's stake this.

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<v Speaker 2>If one cannot discern between what Sedgwick should have concluded

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<v Speaker 2>that presently exposed landscapes were never flooded versus what he

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<v Speaker 2>concluded there was never a flood. If one can't discern

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<v Speaker 2>the difference between those two, one can't be involved in

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<v Speaker 2>critique because you're not smart enough to get involved in critique.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So let's do two things, Mike. Let's do two things.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I want you to explain the effectiveness

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<v Speaker 1>of Google Maps number one and what it shows us now.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I want to jump into the flooding of

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<v Speaker 1>the Mediterranean basement because that's the focus of today's program.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we do that, so this is I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do Google Maps, and I'll ask these questions again

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<v Speaker 1>your theory on how the flood happened, and then get

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<v Speaker 1>into specifics because if we go beyond Mediterranean basis will

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<v Speaker 2>So let's go to Google. So they used to be

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<v Speaker 2>called Google Maps Satellite View, and now we have Google.

417
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<v Speaker 2>Now we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Google Earth, Google Earth right, which is free, which is

419
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<v Speaker 1>great because it used to be a four hundred bucks

420
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<v Speaker 1>a month for it.

421
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<v Speaker 2>It's great, it is a great I love it.

422
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<v Speaker 1>So it's an amazing tool, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So any listener now it can go over double click

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<v Speaker 2>or download double click get that programer. Excuse me, I

425
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<v Speaker 2>guess I'm a PC guy. Double click on it to

426
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<v Speaker 2>get it go and get started. And all they have

427
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<v Speaker 2>to do in particular one, if someone wants to really

428
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.079
<v Speaker 2>get a look at these submerged rivers that I'm talking about,

429
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 2>go to the Gulf of Alaska and there are some

430
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<v Speaker 2>merged volcanoes. You can see a river that meandered between

431
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>two submerged volcanoes. You can see how these rivers float

432
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:55.960
<v Speaker 2>out hundreds and hundreds of miles into what is now,

433
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, two miles under the sea level, the common

434
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<v Speaker 2>Sea l So let the listener, I hope they'll take

435
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<v Speaker 2>the time to go out and see just what's there

436
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.279
<v Speaker 2>and what's what inspired me to look into this problem.

437
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<v Speaker 2>And what I found is that there's a huge error.

438
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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge error. And so the question then becomes, well,

439
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>when did the flood happen, and how did it happen,

440
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.519
<v Speaker 2>what caused it? And there's some really neat stuff here.

441
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<v Speaker 2>So the flood happened twelve eight hundred years ago, So

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<v Speaker 2>let's immediately state that that is ten thousand years before

443
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<v Speaker 2>biblical time. Okay, so it's it's not a biblical issue.

444
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<v Speaker 2>This is a scientific issue. Okay, everybody be clear on that. Okay,

445
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<v Speaker 2>So now it happens twelve eight hundred years ago. There's

446
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<v Speaker 2>a thing called the Younger Driest event. A bunch of

447
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<v Speaker 2>scientists in the throughout the throughout the world got together

448
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<v Speaker 2>in the early late nineteen hundreds early two thousands and

449
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<v Speaker 2>they spent a lot of time doing investigation into this

450
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<v Speaker 2>thing called the Younger Dryas effect. They know that it

451
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 2>involved a cosmic impact because of these nanodiamonds. When you

452
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<v Speaker 2>have a high velocity impact, they are these nanodiamonds that

453
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<v Speaker 2>are created and they've been found pretty much all over

454
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<v Speaker 2>the planet. Furthermore, in North America, they found a bunch

455
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<v Speaker 2>of impact craters and they did the analysis, and these

456
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<v Speaker 2>impact creators, these smaller impact creators, have been found data

457
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<v Speaker 2>to twelve eight hundred years ago. They know that something

458
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<v Speaker 2>like eighty percent of North American mammals weighing over eighty kilograms,

459
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<v Speaker 2>I forget what that is in pounds, but eighty percent

460
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<v Speaker 2>of them became extinct twelve eight years ago. Yeah, okay,

461
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<v Speaker 2>So these geologists think that there was some kind of

462
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<v Speaker 2>North American impact that led to these impact craters, that

463
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<v Speaker 2>led to the nano diamonds, et cetera. But no, that's

464
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<v Speaker 2>not what happened. What happened was a much larger object

465
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<v Speaker 2>overflew North America what is now North America, overslew North America,

466
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<v Speaker 2>South America, just barely crossed over Antarctica and hit in

467
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<v Speaker 2>what is now the Southern Ocean to the southeast of Madagascar.

468
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<v Speaker 2>There's one thousand there's one thousand mile long trough there

469
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<v Speaker 2>that was carved by the massive dense core that served

470
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<v Speaker 2>as a gravitational attractor out in the Oort cloud. And

471
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<v Speaker 2>now now we're getting into comets and whatnot. But this

472
00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:45.680
<v Speaker 2>object that delivered the flood was seen for many, many years.

473
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<v Speaker 2>It was seen probably hundreds of years, as and it

474
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<v Speaker 2>grew bigger and bigger.

475
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<v Speaker 1>So the native people were talking about it as it

476
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<v Speaker 1>was getting closer to the impact. Is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, certainly. In fact, there's I don't know how to

478
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<v Speaker 2>pronounce it. Go Becky Tapley, go Beckley Teppy. Yeah, thank you,

479
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 2>go Beckley Teppe. That was an observatory. By the way,

480
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<v Speaker 2>that observatory was two miles above the previous above the abyss.

481
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<v Speaker 2>Why was it there. We'll talk about that in a

482
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<v Speaker 2>couple of minutes. It has to do with the atmosphere

483
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>that filled the abyss. But that the object that delivered

484
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<v Speaker 2>the flood, and it has many names in different cultures.

485
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 2>One of the names that it's known by Satan, something

486
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<v Speaker 2>that changed our nature. We'll get to that. We'll talk

487
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:38.000
<v Speaker 2>about Adam and Eve. It's also Adam and Eve's story

488
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:41.920
<v Speaker 2>is a flood story, as is Noah in the arc.

489
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<v Speaker 2>But were how do I get there? I'm getting old? Yeah,

490
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<v Speaker 2>I know.

491
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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about this, this trough that was created.

492
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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, okay, all right. So the object that delivered

493
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<v Speaker 2>the flood has several names. Satan was one of them.

494
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<v Speaker 2>Phaeton was probably the more cop phaet O, and Phaeton

495
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 2>was its mark, so we'll refer to it as Pateon.

496
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<v Speaker 2>So Peton would have been seen for many, many many

497
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>years prior to its impact, and as it approached Earth,

498
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:16.639
<v Speaker 2>it would have looked like a snake. It's you've seen

499
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<v Speaker 2>a commet with their long plumey the tails. This thing

500
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:27.320
<v Speaker 2>was enormous. It was fifteen hundred miles in diameter, loosely packed,

501
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and as it approached Earth that had this tremendously long

502
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>tail that is recorded in history actually the Chinese New

503
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Year Dragon is a commemoration of this object, Payton. It's

504
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:44.639
<v Speaker 2>a serpentine above the a serpent above the clouds. It's

505
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:48.199
<v Speaker 2>orange and water emanates from its mouth. Neither it is

506
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:53.760
<v Speaker 2>there's Phaeton's remembrance or one of them. So this object

507
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 2>makes its way to our solar system, gets caught in

508
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<v Speaker 2>Earth's gravitational pull and hits the planet twelve eight hundred

509
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<v Speaker 2>years ago. The impact crater or the impact you know,

510
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<v Speaker 2>it was a big snowball basically hitting the Earth, and

511
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<v Speaker 2>you know the trough carved a thousand miles of it,

512
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<v Speaker 2>a fouth mile long trough carved by the object's solid core,

513
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>and that course served as a gravitational attractor to bring

514
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<v Speaker 2>in the ice particles and the dust particles that are

515
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>consolidated around it. And finally something dislodged. This object made

516
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<v Speaker 2>its way toward Boom. It hits the Earth and as

517
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<v Speaker 2>that ice melts, it floods the planet from the Abyss upwards.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a short break to allow our

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<v Speaker 1>sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly with

520
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<v Speaker 1>my guest today, doctor Michael's Jay, talking about his paper

521
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<v Speaker 1>on the flooding of the Mediterranean Basin and all the

522
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<v Speaker 1>details having to do with how the flood worked. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. My guest today is doctor Michael Jay

524
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<v Speaker 1>who's written a paper called the Flooding of the Mediterranean

525
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<v Speaker 1>Basis based on a book that he wrote called The

526
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<v Speaker 1>Global Flood. And this is an opportunity to understand just

527
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<v Speaker 1>how devastating the flood was.

528
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<v Speaker 2>And also, if.

529
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<v Speaker 1>You're really interested, go to Google Earth, download the app

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<v Speaker 1>and see the Mediterranean basin and the references that he

531
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<v Speaker 1>is providing you in this podcast. I'm sorry, atlease, stop

532
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you just for a second. So if it's one hundred

533
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.679
<v Speaker 1>years as it's coming to the impact.

534
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's more than that. It took from where this

535
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 2>object was to its impact, took something like fifty seven

536
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:30.400
<v Speaker 2>thousand years to get it.

537
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, so they've been watching it.

538
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 2>For John Field, the ancients, the humans at that time,

539
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.679
<v Speaker 2>everyone on the planet would have seen this thing at night.

540
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Everyone did according to geology geological record that you have uncovered.

541
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Was this a one time impact or was it slowly

542
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:50.599
<v Speaker 1>an impact causing the trough?

543
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:56.159
<v Speaker 2>No? No, hits no, no, it is just one big

544
00:37:56.320 --> 00:38:02.159
<v Speaker 2>object fifteen hundred miles in diameter. It's ice dust. They're

545
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:06.239
<v Speaker 2>loosely packed, and this thing hits the In fact, it

546
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:10.239
<v Speaker 2>actually started splitting in two at impact, and I'm sure

547
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.519
<v Speaker 2>it caused earthquakes. And because of the heat sink. I mean,

548
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 2>this stuff, this ice was as cold as it is

549
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:21.280
<v Speaker 2>out close to it's very cold out there, and immediate

550
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.079
<v Speaker 2>heat sink and that ice melts because it used to

551
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 2>be really warm here, and that ice floods the planet

552
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 2>from the abyss upwards. That's important blood.

553
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:36.360
<v Speaker 1>So the impact is immediate, which means immediate death of megafauna,

554
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and whatever humanity is on the planet pretty much gets

555
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>wiped out too, right, Yes.

556
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<v Speaker 2>Very good. So we humans we are not. We are

557
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:50.239
<v Speaker 2>not from presently exposed landscapes. That's one of the big things.

558
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:53.280
<v Speaker 2>There are no humans indigenous to where we are now.

559
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<v Speaker 2>Why because we are adapted to the abyss. The abyss.

560
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:02.599
<v Speaker 2>So you take away two miles of water, the atmosphere

561
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:05.880
<v Speaker 2>falls down into the abyss. That leads the higher atmosphereic pressure,

562
00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:09.239
<v Speaker 2>the absence of the heat sink. Well, golly, the naked

563
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:12.719
<v Speaker 2>humans right right, What was it like down there before

564
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.239
<v Speaker 2>the flood, Well, it was warm enough that we could

565
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:18.880
<v Speaker 2>go around furless creature. Wait wait, let's make a comment

566
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:22.840
<v Speaker 2>now about our simian relatives that we encounter after the flood.

567
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>So they are from landscapes that are more than two

568
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:30.239
<v Speaker 2>miles above where we were. So you go up to miles,

569
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 2>the temperature difference is more than fifty degrees fahrenheit. It's

570
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 2>colder up there, right, So they needed for all the

571
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:41.039
<v Speaker 2>animals up where we are now, they needed fur right

572
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.360
<v Speaker 2>to survive. We didn't have fur because it was hot

573
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:48.400
<v Speaker 2>down there, right, So we evolved in a in landscape.

574
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 2>In fact, we can now account for the difference in

575
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:56.719
<v Speaker 2>human skin pigmentations. So light skin humans are from latitudes

576
00:39:56.719 --> 00:40:00.599
<v Speaker 2>that are further away from from abyssal landscapes that are

577
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:05.239
<v Speaker 2>further away from the equator than darker skinned humans who

578
00:40:05.239 --> 00:40:13.519
<v Speaker 2>were more equatorial regions but nonetheless below I called the abyss.

579
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:17.679
<v Speaker 2>There was no common sea level back then. Some people think, oh,

580
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<v Speaker 2>Mike is saying there were no o shits. I'm not

581
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.840
<v Speaker 2>saying that either. If you take away two miles of water,

582
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:26.679
<v Speaker 2>there was a large Pacific ocean. That's where we get

583
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 2>most of our whales. But you know they have now,

584
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:36.000
<v Speaker 2>their habitat has expanded, you know, what one hundredfold since

585
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:41.159
<v Speaker 2>the flood. But we humans are not from where we

586
00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:44.400
<v Speaker 2>are now. We humans are from landscapes that are under

587
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>two miles of water. It nearly killed our species. We

588
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:51.119
<v Speaker 2>can do some, you know, some prior to modern medicine.

589
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 2>So if we took an estimate of the population in

590
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:56.519
<v Speaker 2>eighteen hundred and we have estimates for the population in

591
00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>year zero, we can get an exponential growth rate. And

592
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:03.400
<v Speaker 2>then we can back propagate that to twelve eight hundred

593
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 2>years before present, and you take high ends low ends,

594
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.679
<v Speaker 2>you get an average the number of humans that survived

595
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:12.960
<v Speaker 2>this event. Somewhere between ten thousand to twenty thousand humans

596
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:14.400
<v Speaker 2>worldwide survived this.

597
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 1>So they must have been at a high ground, is what

598
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>you're suggesting, Jimmy. I.

599
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:23.159
<v Speaker 2>So some were chased, some some may have survived being

600
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:28.920
<v Speaker 2>chased upward. Some from the Pacific basin may have been

601
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 2>lucky enough to survive up to what was formerly a

602
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 2>volcano or once a volcano, but they're up to or

603
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:40.920
<v Speaker 2>once mountains are now just barely exposed hilltops. Yeah, under

604
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:44.039
<v Speaker 2>the or in the Pacific. There are some humans that

605
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:50.559
<v Speaker 2>escaped upward the big the big region that helped many

606
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:55.239
<v Speaker 2>of us was the Mediterranean basin. So what happens, So

607
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.519
<v Speaker 2>now we get some of the paper again, what happened

608
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.679
<v Speaker 2>in the Mediterranean was that the flood was you know,

609
00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:08.039
<v Speaker 2>the flood waters were the object hit starts melting. You know,

610
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:10.760
<v Speaker 2>a month or two later, those waters are getting close

611
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:13.840
<v Speaker 2>to the level of the Strait of Gibraltar up to

612
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.079
<v Speaker 2>that time. So let's taste. Let's say it's forty days

613
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<v Speaker 2>and forty nights, just to be consistent with a particular

614
00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 2>story the people living down in the Mediterranean. We had

615
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:23.480
<v Speaker 2>humans in the Mediterranean, no question about it.

616
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>How far below we're talking a mile, it's.

617
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<v Speaker 2>A little bit. It's a little bit less than two.

618
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<v Speaker 1>Miles, two miles. It's a little bit less than from

619
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<v Speaker 1>the Google maps, because when you go to the Google map,

620
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<v Speaker 1>you're actually showing the former land edge of the of

621
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<v Speaker 1>the land mass to the water.

622
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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to Google ears right now, I can

623
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<v Speaker 2>get to the Mediterranean. So the western Mediterranean, I'm certain

624
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:57.719
<v Speaker 2>there were humans there, and also the eastern Mediterranean, and

625
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.400
<v Speaker 2>there's a you can kind of see the hum and

626
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.559
<v Speaker 2>where all these things there we go. So the depth

627
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 2>right here is twenty four hundred meters, so let's call

628
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<v Speaker 2>twenty five hundred meters. What is that a little bit

629
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<v Speaker 2>more than a mile and a half.

630
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<v Speaker 1>A mile and a half is where the original land

631
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<v Speaker 1>form was.

632
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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, that's where the original No, no, that's where

633
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 2>the water level was in the Mediterranean. Okay, so it's

634
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<v Speaker 2>twenty excuse me, roughly a mile and a half below

635
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:30.719
<v Speaker 2>where the current water level is. There was once a

636
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:33.159
<v Speaker 2>see there, and we are you.

637
00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 1>Saying that they had about a month before to survive.

638
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:40.960
<v Speaker 2>So what I'm saying is that the people in the Mediterranean,

639
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.800
<v Speaker 2>so they saw this object go by, right, they probably

640
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:48.000
<v Speaker 2>felt the earthquakes. And now you know the water hasn't

641
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:50.679
<v Speaker 2>gotten to the Strait of Gibraltar yet. The water is rising.

642
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:54.000
<v Speaker 2>It's outside of the Mediterranean. It's filling the Atlantic, it's

643
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:58.320
<v Speaker 2>filling the Pacific. Oh, here comes this water level during

644
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.400
<v Speaker 2>that time. And I'm just kind of being he's just

645
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:03.079
<v Speaker 2>playful to say, let's call it forty days and forty

646
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:06.039
<v Speaker 2>nights of rain. Right, we have forty days and forty

647
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:09.920
<v Speaker 2>nights of changing weather. Right, it would have been really cold,

648
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:12.599
<v Speaker 2>right because we have this huge heat sink that just

649
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 2>plopped onto the planet. And no doubt it's raining with

650
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:22.119
<v Speaker 2>all that new humidity. So finally the waters starts spilling

651
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:26.360
<v Speaker 2>through the Strait of Gibraltar down into the Mediterranean base

652
00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:29.639
<v Speaker 2>of where these humans are. Right, So they're gonna think that, oh,

653
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:33.760
<v Speaker 2>it's those forty days of rain that caused the flood, right,

654
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.960
<v Speaker 2>that's not it's not what happened. But that's when. That's

655
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.159
<v Speaker 2>when the med flooded was twelve eight hundred years ago,

656
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.679
<v Speaker 2>just after the object hit, you know, two weeks, three

657
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>weeks for who knows, forty days, let's call it after

658
00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:52.400
<v Speaker 2>the impact, until the melt got that high. I think

659
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:54.400
<v Speaker 2>it must have been longer, but let's just say for

660
00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the heck talk that it was forty days.

661
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So our people, our people obviously in a panic

662
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and they're in survival farmable. I think, what did you

663
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<v Speaker 1>say before you think ten thousand total people may survived

664
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the total earthwide flood. There must have been thousands of

665
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:19.280
<v Speaker 1>people in that Mediterranean basin that had a heads up

666
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.320
<v Speaker 1>enough to get out of there or maybe.

667
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but some of them were probably in craft, right,

668
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.719
<v Speaker 2>some of them probably had some crafts like Noah. Let's

669
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 2>talk about Noah. Right, So let's say that these people

670
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:36.760
<v Speaker 2>who had operated sea bearing earth. Yeah, maybe there was commerce.

671
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Who knows what was going on in the pre flood

672
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:45.159
<v Speaker 2>western Mediterranean basin, but there probably were boats and those

673
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:50.760
<v Speaker 2>are lucky people to survive. So they survived, and so

674
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 2>that makes air a rat. It makes it you know,

675
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Sardinia could be creked, makes it one of the islands,

676
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 2>large island in uh, in the Mediterranean. Some people think

677
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:06.880
<v Speaker 2>the error ats you know, where Noah's arc landed was

678
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 2>somewhere in Turkey. That's garbage. Uh, it's probably one of

679
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 2>the islands in the in the Mediterranean. And that kind

680
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:19.159
<v Speaker 2>of gets us to the animals too. So think about this.

681
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:23.119
<v Speaker 2>So we humans are chased upward out of our natural domains.

682
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:28.840
<v Speaker 2>The lucky survivors find themselves confrig it. It's cold. They

683
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:30.880
<v Speaker 2>have to find some way of getting warm.

684
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

685
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Think about the other animals that were chased up right,

686
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:36.360
<v Speaker 2>they're chased up and out of So that's where the

687
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:39.480
<v Speaker 2>animals two by two, some of these animals, some of

688
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:42.039
<v Speaker 2>their mates, you know, they're the only survivors. Well, they

689
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 2>become extinct. Others get eaten because there are carnivores in

690
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:50.119
<v Speaker 2>this set. Right, So there's all this turmoil about animals.

691
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:52.760
<v Speaker 2>So somehow the two by two, I think that that

692
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:54.920
<v Speaker 2>two by two has to do with those that could

693
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:57.800
<v Speaker 2>find mates, could reproduce. So that story has just been

694
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, changed over time. But in the immediate pre

695
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:07.920
<v Speaker 2>flood era time, it would have just been horrendous for

696
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:13.440
<v Speaker 2>a human being. Uh there, just think about walking they

697
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.519
<v Speaker 2>we didn't wear shoes, probably in our pre flood domains

698
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 2>where we were adapted. That's that's really hard for for

699
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.239
<v Speaker 2>us to kind of comprehend. So there's a big takeaway.

700
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:25.519
<v Speaker 2>That's one of the big takeaways from my work. We

701
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:28.800
<v Speaker 2>are an ill adapted species to the pope. We are

702
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:32.119
<v Speaker 2>ill adapted to the post flow ecosystem, and all of

703
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:37.719
<v Speaker 2>our environmental abuses are a consequence of trying to create

704
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 2>environments where we can be properly adapted. These houses, clothed,

705
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.480
<v Speaker 2>all of this stuff. Everything we do is that the

706
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:49.159
<v Speaker 2>fact that we're called you social, we have our little niches,

707
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:53.719
<v Speaker 2>we were like ants. We are helping these species survive.

708
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.159
<v Speaker 2>We have no concept of this because we are so

709
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:03.159
<v Speaker 2>we think this is natural. We think that all humans

710
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 2>have been living this way. It's garbage for twelve eight

711
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:12.599
<v Speaker 2>hundred years. We have been foiling against nature. We used

712
00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>to be a part of nature. Now we are not.

713
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:16.679
<v Speaker 2>We are fighting against nature.

714
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 4>So let's you know, it's kind of fun, you know,

715
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.920
<v Speaker 4>I get to it's one of my my niches is

716
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:25.639
<v Speaker 4>to sit awake at night and to think about what

717
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:30.119
<v Speaker 4>was it like in pre flood earth? You know, where

718
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:32.719
<v Speaker 4>did we live? How did we live where there? What

719
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:35.320
<v Speaker 4>do we have predators?

720
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I have no idea.

721
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Talk for a minute about your understanding that go Beckley Tappy.

722
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps Karrahan Tappy. These giant stone steely or teas have

723
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>evidence or record this massive impact.

724
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:58.960
<v Speaker 2>So so let's talk about Go Beckley Tappy. Why? So

725
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:02.400
<v Speaker 2>first of all, why is it located where it is? Right?

726
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:07.360
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, it's in present day Turkey, which puts it

727
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:12.239
<v Speaker 2>well above where we were from. Right, it's at least

728
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:15.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty five hundred a mile and a half above where

729
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:18.000
<v Speaker 2>humans were. Now why is that? Well, if you go

730
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:21.440
<v Speaker 2>up to a mountain here, let's say the Colorado Rockies

731
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.360
<v Speaker 2>and look up at the stars, right, you see so

732
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:29.639
<v Speaker 2>many more stars because there's less atmospheric interference attenuation. So

733
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.599
<v Speaker 2>where we were before the flood, we're way down in

734
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 2>the abyss, and this atmosphere is attenuating star White Well,

735
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.039
<v Speaker 2>where you're going to put a place to observe the star,

736
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 2>where you're going to go up. And I'm sure they

737
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:45.599
<v Speaker 2>spent lots of time figuring out a place where they

738
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:48.360
<v Speaker 2>could be as adapted as possible. They probably had to

739
00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:52.800
<v Speaker 2>get clothing, They probably created shelters, right, They had to

740
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:54.400
<v Speaker 2>do that, And they were there for a long time

741
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:58.599
<v Speaker 2>as an observatory. They're watching the skies because you get

742
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:02.280
<v Speaker 2>a clear view. Maybe they started when they started seeing

743
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:07.480
<v Speaker 2>this object making its way into our solar system Faetan,

744
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:12.159
<v Speaker 2>but they certainly all of the snake images they're they're

745
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:18.039
<v Speaker 2>all references to Faeton and the Vulture Stone. I don't

746
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:22.639
<v Speaker 2>know a whole lot about this, Go Beckley Teppee, but

747
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:26.239
<v Speaker 2>I do know, I do know. I will assert I

748
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know for certain, I will assert that it is

749
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.480
<v Speaker 2>located where it is because it was far enough above

750
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:38.480
<v Speaker 2>the pre flood domain of whoever was that established it

751
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:42.159
<v Speaker 2>where they could observe the nighttime skies better.

752
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't know who the people are who created

753
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Go Beckley Teppee. We just apparently they just found a

754
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:54.679
<v Speaker 1>petrified human skull, which shows you that's pretty damn old.

755
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:59.679
<v Speaker 1>If it's petrified from bone to stone right there. But

756
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<v Speaker 1>what I was curious about in your your take on

757
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 1>is that if this impact was a sudden, how quickly

758
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>was the flooding. Was it massive tsunamis or just quick?

759
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:24.199
<v Speaker 5>Uh, it's all this is an it's an almost an

760
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:26.760
<v Speaker 5>incomprehensible amount of water that was delivered.

761
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:34.480
<v Speaker 2>It started melting immediately. Uh. You can actually see some

762
00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:38.840
<v Speaker 2>of the rivula. Let's set the uh, waters carved heading

763
00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:45.199
<v Speaker 2>north easterly toward India from the impact area, So it's

764
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:47.840
<v Speaker 2>filling a base in there. And then if it would

765
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:53.559
<v Speaker 2>have filled to the south of Africa, make its way

766
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:56.639
<v Speaker 2>into the Atlantic, then over to the Pacific, eventually we

767
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:59.719
<v Speaker 2>have a common water level and eventually it keeps rising

768
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:03.360
<v Speaker 2>and and then it gets to the Mediterranean, it gets

769
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 2>to the level of the straight at Gibraltar. Then the

770
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Mediterranean fails. And that's an interesting period. So there. Recently,

771
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:18.119
<v Speaker 2>remnants of a camp site were found in off the

772
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:24.400
<v Speaker 2>coast of the Pacific coast of North America. And the

773
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Haida were noted seafarers. So these are people Haida Guay.

774
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:37.480
<v Speaker 2>They they were noted seafarers. And what I lost my

775
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:42.039
<v Speaker 2>train of thought again golly, I apologize. Oh, we're talking

776
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:44.320
<v Speaker 2>about the sea level rising, right, So the sea level

777
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.440
<v Speaker 2>rising to the sea level, and once it gets to

778
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:51.840
<v Speaker 2>the level of the Mediterranean, the Mediterranean starts filling. Outside

779
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:55.400
<v Speaker 2>of the Mediterranean, the level remains the same. There's a pause,

780
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<v Speaker 2>all right. So now, if you're one of these survivors

781
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 2>outside of the Mediterranean, you're in a boat somewhere, you

782
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:06.239
<v Speaker 2>look for the nearest island, You establish a campsite, and

783
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:10.360
<v Speaker 2>it looks like it looks like we may have the

784
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:14.960
<v Speaker 2>waters may have stopped. But what happens the Mediterranean floods.

785
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:17.159
<v Speaker 2>It takes a while for the men to completely flood,

786
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:21.599
<v Speaker 2>and the sea level has not attained its highest its

787
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:25.199
<v Speaker 2>present state yet, And sure enough, there's more that comes.

788
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:27.440
<v Speaker 2>So it's about one hundred and twenty meters or so,

789
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.679
<v Speaker 2>and sure enough they found remnants of a campsite about

790
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:34.559
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty meters down that from the height

791
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:36.920
<v Speaker 2>to guide. And so they had to get back in

792
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:38.519
<v Speaker 2>their boats, and then they made their way up to

793
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:42.199
<v Speaker 2>the Pacific Northwest, where their legend still holds that they

794
00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:43.719
<v Speaker 2>are survivors from the flood.

795
00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Wow, hey, in your in your Google maps that you

796
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<v Speaker 1>present in this paper the flooding of the Mediterranean. Are

797
00:53:54.679 --> 00:54:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you are you theorizing that the area that under water,

798
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:06.039
<v Speaker 1>which is almost two miles there was actual buildings and

799
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<v Speaker 1>ruins down there.

800
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<v Speaker 2>Oh see, that's great, that's a great question. So now, okay,

801
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:15.400
<v Speaker 2>so if we are perfectly adapted, we're a creature that

802
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 2>is adapted for its domain. Do we have a need

803
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.519
<v Speaker 2>for cities? Do we have a need for building? No,

804
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:26.639
<v Speaker 2>what are we going to find down there? Well? Pretty

805
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:31.159
<v Speaker 2>much nothing other than the canals of Atlantis. Now there,

806
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Now let's talk about Plato. All right, So Plato and Christius.

807
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:38.400
<v Speaker 2>He gives us a description of the very detailed description

808
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:44.679
<v Speaker 2>of the canals of Atlantis he talks about in Stadia.

809
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:46.519
<v Speaker 2>And I talk about this in the paper, which I

810
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:48.719
<v Speaker 2>hope your readers will are your listeners will get a

811
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<v Speaker 2>chance to look up it's freely available.

812
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll make it available at the Earth Ancient Facebook page.

813
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:59.639
<v Speaker 1>We'll have download site belong to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Anyway, so I use the USGS, the US Geological

815
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<v Speaker 2>Survey Map because Google. Google has actually erased shall we say,

816
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:16.480
<v Speaker 2>they did a thing called Kreegi. It was the in fact,

817
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<v Speaker 2>even the newspaper article, the article describing what they did.

818
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't find it on the internet anymore, but is

819
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:26.679
<v Speaker 2>either the University of San Diego or University of California

820
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:29.719
<v Speaker 2>San Diego UCSD or USD. One of those two had

821
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:32.840
<v Speaker 2>an undergraduate or maybe a graduate student. They did an

822
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:38.599
<v Speaker 2>estimation technique called krieging, and they removed, they smeared, averaged

823
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:44.000
<v Speaker 2>away western portions of the canal system. So the Google

824
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Earth and Google Maps images of the canal system are

825
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:52.559
<v Speaker 2>not as good as those that one can find at

826
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<v Speaker 2>the US Geological Survey Map, which actually served as an

827
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<v Speaker 2>original basis for the Google Maps. Google go about removing

828
00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:06.679
<v Speaker 2>averaging away these things, I don't know, but to make

829
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<v Speaker 2>it back to protecting a narrative, I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to impute motives, but frankly, right, they

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<v Speaker 2>can't be they must be artifacts, right, yeah, because they

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<v Speaker 2>can't be human made because there was never a flood.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

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<v Speaker 1>with my guest today, Michael J discussing the Great flood

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<v Speaker 1>of the Earth, our planet on the podcast today. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back with you. I guess today is doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Michael j who has written a paper on the flooding

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mediterranean Basin based on the worldwide flood that

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<v Speaker 1>he chronicles in his book The Great Worldwide Flood. We're

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<v Speaker 1>getting details on just how important this information is and

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<v Speaker 1>also a great reference and a great opportunity for you

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<v Speaker 1>to download Google Earth, which is free onto your computer

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<v Speaker 1>to see up close and personal exactly what we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about today. Also, this information will be available on Earth

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<v Speaker 1>Ancients Facebook page. Go to Facebook, go to Earth Ancients

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<v Speaker 1>and see the paper that you can download, but also

848
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<v Speaker 1>the map app that shows how far how high the

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<v Speaker 1>water rose during the Great Flood. I mean, I've seen these.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very They're obviously artificial, these canals. Oh no, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no talk about where are they located? Okay, So if.

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<v Speaker 2>They are one thousand miles west southwest of the Straight

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<v Speaker 2>at Gibraltar, in a place called the Madeira abyssle Plane

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<v Speaker 2>m A d E I r A the Madeira byssele Plane,

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand miles so there where they're supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 2>They're out in the middle of the Atlantic. And Plato

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<v Speaker 2>gives an incredible description that that the canal systems were rectangular,

858
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<v Speaker 2>there were so many, Uh, there was such a distance apart,

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<v Speaker 2>and that the total length of the canals were supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be ten thousand stadia. And I'll be done. I

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<v Speaker 2>did the math. So I took measuring tool on Google Earth,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean Plato's description from the canals that I

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<v Speaker 2>could see. I got ninety six one hundred stadia versus

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<v Speaker 2>ten thousand. Not a bad guess, or yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>amazing that plate. And then you know, he finishes by saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and and uh, you know. And then after

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<v Speaker 2>several earthquakes and the the city was lost in the

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<v Speaker 2>Great Dailug. Sure enough, yes we lost we lost Atlantis

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<v Speaker 2>in the flood. We lost a lot in the flood.

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<v Speaker 1>So so give me two measurements. First of all, how

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<v Speaker 1>deep is the canals?

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00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Uh? He says, I have a memorized one hundred feet.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say that it's the one hundred feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and that's number one. And then, uh, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the average length of one of these canals?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the total length is f mind. So I did

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<v Speaker 2>everything in Stadia, which was the.

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<v Speaker 1>US Plato's language.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does say they were they were excavated to

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred feet and the breadth was the stadium, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's two hundred yards a stadium. A stadia is about

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred fet or two hundred yards, so they're two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred yards wide one hundred feet dee, and they are

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<v Speaker 2>about I want to I think it's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>ten miles or so apart and they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I want to just ask you a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting question because, and by the way, those of

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<v Speaker 1>you listening can see these graphs on the Facebook or

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<v Speaker 1>the Ancients page, I'll put them up. It looks like

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<v Speaker 1>they're artificially cut, like there was some machining done. Still perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say about that?

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<v Speaker 2>So, so just a quick question. It's somewhat, it's not,

893
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.800
<v Speaker 2>it's not. It's a rhetorical question. So, if you were

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<v Speaker 2>to excavate to pull out these chunks from these square

895
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<v Speaker 2>rectangular canals, what would you do with the stuff that

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01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:52.960
<v Speaker 2>came out? Where would you stack these? Thanks?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they'd the mountains of dirt and crafts or pyramids?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, oh yeah, And so I believe that we

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01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:08.800
<v Speaker 2>can actually see what could be pyramids down there, But

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<v Speaker 2>it's how did they excavate them? I have no idea

901
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:17.400
<v Speaker 2>they did they have modern technology cutting to I have

902
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:20.239
<v Speaker 2>no idea. In fact, it kind of gets to it,

903
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of brings up there's a thing called the fer

904
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Meat paradox. Enrico Fermi posed the question one time. He said,

905
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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's a dichotomy, you know, he said, said,

906
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:35.679
<v Speaker 2>there's such a high probability that extraterrestrial intelligence exists, but

907
01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:39.760
<v Speaker 2>why is it that we haven't encountered any right, and

908
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<v Speaker 2>so it's kind of interesting to think about the reason

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01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:47.440
<v Speaker 2>that we are as technologically advanced as we are is

910
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:50.639
<v Speaker 2>because of the flood. The flood took us out of

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01:01:50.679 --> 01:01:54.639
<v Speaker 2>our natural environment. There was no need for technology. There

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01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:57.760
<v Speaker 2>was no need for anything other than to cut large

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01:01:57.760 --> 01:02:00.559
<v Speaker 2>stones out of canals that are going to bring water

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01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:04.639
<v Speaker 2>to our It's going to bring water to our our clan.

915
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<v Speaker 2>That's the purpose. We humans needed fresh water, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we were at fresh water sources in the Abyss prior

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<v Speaker 2>to the flood. I believe that there are large clans

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<v Speaker 2>of humans that span the Pacific. That's why there's such

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<v Speaker 2>a DNA link between humans in Australia and humans in

920
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:27.280
<v Speaker 2>South America. There's there was no land. Now, listen, how

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01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:30.719
<v Speaker 2>about this hypothesis that that we're supposed to believe that

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the last Ice Age, when the

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<v Speaker 2>oceans were supposedly hundreds of feet below where they are,

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<v Speaker 2>that ancients from Australia somehow made their way up northward

925
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:48.239
<v Speaker 2>during an Ice Age to the bearing straight cross the

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01:02:48.280 --> 01:02:51.639
<v Speaker 2>bearing straight down into North America and never leave the

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<v Speaker 2>DNA trace to make their way into South America where

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<v Speaker 2>we find their DNA link. It is absolute garbage. And

929
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<v Speaker 2>yet we're suppose to believe that, now what happened was

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<v Speaker 2>we humans were we had a clan of humans that

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<v Speaker 2>occupied the Pacific basin from from the Orient to South

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<v Speaker 2>America to the west coast of South America, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were occupying places where they were fresh water. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can't go much further than to say, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>lived there for a long time. Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Graham Hancock likes to say that as underwater archaeology develops,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna unveil a whole different narrative on our past

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<v Speaker 1>because we're gonna find these ruined cities and and evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of very sophisticated man like like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, just just a quick comment on that. While I

941
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<v Speaker 2>was still on the faculty in Monterey at the Naval

942
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Postgraduate School. I submitted a proposal to the International Ocean

943
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<v Speaker 2>Discovery Program to recover the remnants of the core that

944
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<v Speaker 2>served as the gravitational sink that caused one thousand mile

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01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:18.400
<v Speaker 2>long trough. To recover the core remnants from that. Now,

946
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<v Speaker 2>who are the people that are staffing the International Ocean

947
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Discovery Program. Who are the people that have the equipment

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<v Speaker 2>that can excavate down into the Abystle regions to draw

949
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<v Speaker 2>up core samples? Well, it's submarines geomorphologists. So I submit

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<v Speaker 2>this proposal and it's immediately not well anyway, It's spent

951
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:43.199
<v Speaker 2>about a week there, and I get a re Jackson

952
01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:45.840
<v Speaker 2>letter that said, quote, it is thinking like this that

953
01:04:46.400 --> 01:04:50.880
<v Speaker 2>move science forward, but it is so different from accepted

954
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:54.000
<v Speaker 2>geology that we have no choice but to disapprove.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, you said that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I resubmitted it the next year, and I got

957
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<v Speaker 2>a personal letter from the person who was then in

958
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<v Speaker 2>charge of the IODP that said, don't you ever do

959
01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:11.280
<v Speaker 2>this again? Like, Okay, I got an idea. What I'm

960
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:16.000
<v Speaker 2>up again? So in fact, the same people, the iod people,

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<v Speaker 2>IODP people they recently in twenty and nineteen twenty twenty

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01:05:22.599 --> 01:05:29.039
<v Speaker 2>ish they published a paper where they found in core

963
01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:34.960
<v Speaker 2>segments taken in the Bay of Bengal, they found wood chips,

964
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<v Speaker 2>wood fragments that are millions of years apart. So they

965
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:42.760
<v Speaker 2>drilled this core sample down. It's a vertical sample, and

966
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:44.920
<v Speaker 2>they drilled down into what turns out to be an

967
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:49.360
<v Speaker 2>oxpode or the bank of a river. And they pull

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01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:52.199
<v Speaker 2>up this core and in this core are and they

969
01:05:52.280 --> 01:05:55.559
<v Speaker 2>carbon date these samples. And these samples are millions of

970
01:05:55.639 --> 01:06:00.400
<v Speaker 2>years apart. This core was drilled one thousand mile from

971
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:04.320
<v Speaker 2>where the Ganges enters into the Bay of Bengal. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're supposed to somehow believe that somehow these core samples

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<v Speaker 2>ascuse me, that these wood fragments make their way to

974
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:17.679
<v Speaker 2>the exact same spot millions of years apart, somehow sink

975
01:06:18.079 --> 01:06:23.199
<v Speaker 2>and are then somehow covered by sediments in places where

976
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<v Speaker 2>the velocities of the currents are like ten meters per second,

977
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<v Speaker 2>are incapable of moving sediments big enough to cover these things.

978
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the contradictions involved in what they do. So

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<v Speaker 2>I contacted the authors of that study and I said,

980
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:43.280
<v Speaker 2>and you can see the oxpos So this iodp ship,

981
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:46.960
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's mapping the ocean floor, and you can

982
01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:50.559
<v Speaker 2>see that they are following these ox bows, these meanders.

983
01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:52.960
<v Speaker 2>They can they're following a river system, and you can

984
01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.320
<v Speaker 2>even see how it gets deeper deeper deeper as they

985
01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:58.559
<v Speaker 2>get further and further away the for the Ganges or

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01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:03.360
<v Speaker 2>for the entry into the Bay of Bengal. And so

987
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:05.480
<v Speaker 2>I contact the authors of this thing and I say,

988
01:07:05.679 --> 01:07:09.159
<v Speaker 2>how is it that we can find by what process?

989
01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Can we find oxpos and meanders under two miles of water?

990
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<v Speaker 2>And the reply back was, well, that's exactly the question.

991
01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:21.039
<v Speaker 2>And I just like, you got to be kidding me,

992
01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:24.079
<v Speaker 2>you guys. So again, it gives you the idea of

993
01:07:24.159 --> 01:07:30.360
<v Speaker 2>how influential no flood is. It perreates all of geology.

994
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<v Speaker 2>It is what chance do I have? What chance does

995
01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:38.119
<v Speaker 2>does a single guy have of influing this and the

996
01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:38.880
<v Speaker 2>influencing this.

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<v Speaker 1>And so as we conclude, Mike, what would be a

998
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:49.000
<v Speaker 1>breakthrough for you that would kind of open the door

999
01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:52.280
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more to a understanding of a global flood?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, maybe even a mistake that some team

1001
01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:59.400
<v Speaker 1>a geologists make that was like, oh my god, look

1002
01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:02.960
<v Speaker 1>what we found. What would be the perfect solution to

1003
01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:06.639
<v Speaker 1>break free of this old paradigm.

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01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, there are two. Well, first of all, I honestly

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<v Speaker 2>believe that that paper that was published in twenty nineteen

1006
01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:18.039
<v Speaker 2>that deals with the Bay of Bengal, and it's available

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01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:20.880
<v Speaker 2>at my website, I critique that paper rather that right

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01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:25.199
<v Speaker 2>there is sufficient evidence right there to undo any belief

1009
01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:28.960
<v Speaker 2>in the flood, and yet it hasn't done it. Another

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01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:33.000
<v Speaker 2>way would be for and there's a Naval Academy graduate

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01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:36.279
<v Speaker 2>who is an extremely wealthy human, and he's got a

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01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:39.239
<v Speaker 2>research craft, and I send him my paper. I sent

1013
01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:42.039
<v Speaker 2>him my book, and I said, you know, can you

1014
01:08:42.239 --> 01:08:45.880
<v Speaker 2>please go to the mediterrane or to the Madeira Bissle

1015
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:50.039
<v Speaker 2>plane and send down your craft. Let's investigate the canals

1016
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:52.960
<v Speaker 2>of Atlantis. So there it is, right, there is oh

1017
01:08:53.119 --> 01:08:56.279
<v Speaker 2>is to have a research craft go to those canals,

1018
01:08:56.600 --> 01:08:59.119
<v Speaker 2>go down and not just find canals. They're going to

1019
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:04.640
<v Speaker 2>find pyramids on there because they stacked those blocks. And

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<v Speaker 2>then well, finally, would be maybe one of your listeners,

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01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:15.000
<v Speaker 2>uh would be interested in contacting me, maybe through you,

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01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:21.640
<v Speaker 2>just to do a movie, because especially with AI coming about,

1023
01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:25.039
<v Speaker 2>I think that a movie of the mistake, you know,

1024
01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:27.479
<v Speaker 2>that would you kind of talk about you know, where

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01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:32.199
<v Speaker 2>we were, the mistake, what happened. You can see the

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01:09:32.239 --> 01:09:35.960
<v Speaker 2>just the anguish that surviving humans went through and all

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01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:38.000
<v Speaker 2>of the things that you know, even the survivors, you

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01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:41.560
<v Speaker 2>know you finally you get done surviving this thing and

1029
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:42.560
<v Speaker 2>then you got to live.

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<v Speaker 1>It must have been really tough.

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01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:51.039
<v Speaker 2>What do you eat? Right? Golly, it's it's just stunning.

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01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:53.520
<v Speaker 2>But anyway it would make it, it's a great story.

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01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Must have been a horrible trauma. Yes, people who went

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<v Speaker 1>through Uh, Mike, really great. Have you on the program?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get people your website, it's the it's Theworldwide Flood

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<v Speaker 1>dot com or all one word, all one word. And

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<v Speaker 1>what's on the website? You got your papers that people

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<v Speaker 1>can download or is it more just a uh.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I have links to my paper as well as

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<v Speaker 2>a paper that another paper that deals with another traumatic

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<v Speaker 2>event to the Earth that created the continent. Basically geologists

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<v Speaker 2>have that all screwed up. But we'll not talking about

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<v Speaker 2>that today. But it's got a bunch of essays and

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much everything that's in my book is somewhere on

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<v Speaker 2>that website. There's a lot of really cool essays. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>it requires reading and people who go to websites kind

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<v Speaker 2>of expect immediate gratification, and it's going to take you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is meant for people to read and think about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, give us real quickly. As we conclude, what would

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<v Speaker 1>you suggest people begin looking at? If they download Google

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<v Speaker 1>Maps and they have it on their desktop, what would

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<v Speaker 1>be a good place to start looking and to see

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<v Speaker 1>these evidence of old.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really it's really neat. So it's not coastlines,

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<v Speaker 2>it's river So it's really so I would just look

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<v Speaker 2>at north of look at the West coast and North America,

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<v Speaker 2>begining the Gulf of Alaska. Make your way down California coast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. Prior to the flood, it rained in

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<v Speaker 2>California all the time. It's why the hills around it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Salinas Valley was once an inland lake and it

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01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:42.880
<v Speaker 2>drained through moss landing down and the velocity of that

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<v Speaker 2>water falling two miles is what carved Monterey Canyon. And

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<v Speaker 2>so that water made its way back out to what

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<v Speaker 2>was then the smaller Pacific Ocean. And we get the

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<v Speaker 2>cycle going right. So you have this the westward of

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<v Speaker 2>the westerly flow of air. It hits the continent, it

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<v Speaker 2>gets up lifted two miles, gets uplifted two miles, it

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<v Speaker 2>condensed as falls as. It's so cool. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really cool. So hey, then go to the east coast

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<v Speaker 2>of North America. Look at the Hudson River. Now, the

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<v Speaker 2>Hudson River, it's title right now, it's a title river.

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<v Speaker 2>It's title all the way up to all but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can see where the Hudson River wants float

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<v Speaker 2>all the way down into the Abyss. You can see

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01:12:22.159 --> 01:12:25.279
<v Speaker 2>the car and you can see the Connecticut River, and

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01:12:25.319 --> 01:12:27.560
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's so cool. And then go over to

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<v Speaker 2>the go to the Mediterranean and look at what I see.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so obvious. Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I know you talked about the canals of Atlanta's

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<v Speaker 1>being wiped out. Are there any anomalies that you can

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<v Speaker 1>suggest people go to that will show pyramids under the water,

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<v Speaker 1>or no areas that are not necessarily been touched by

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<v Speaker 1>the editors of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I frankly, it's speculation that there are pyramids there,

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<v Speaker 2>but dog on it. Yeah, it's it's really fascinating to

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<v Speaker 2>think what would you do if you're if you're creating

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01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:07.840
<v Speaker 2>this canal system to bring water to as many people

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<v Speaker 2>in the Klan as possible. It's a great idea. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's spend thousands of years creating this canal system. What

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<v Speaker 2>are we going to do with these excavations? Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we can learn to stack them. It's really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Michael j. It's been a pleasure as always, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanna thank you for your work, and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you can uh break down and and uh bring us

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<v Speaker 1>another book before you leave the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I really appreciate you having me back, Cliff, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very kind to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just want to reiterate the fact that this

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<v Speaker 1>data is coming the bulk of it is coming from

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<v Speaker 1>Google Earth. And this is a recent interview, but when

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<v Speaker 1>he was working on this book, this is that was

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<v Speaker 1>probably you know, seven eight years ago, and updates are

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<v Speaker 1>more recent. But the data has constantly been changing. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things he made a good point is

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<v Speaker 1>that you had to go to a geological USGA I

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<v Speaker 1>might be USGS USGGS website and look at their map,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're not editing in quite the same manner. I

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<v Speaker 1>have seen people have sent me screen captures of Google

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<v Speaker 1>Earth and underwater pyramids anomalies. Off the coast of Belize,

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<v Speaker 1>Central America, there's a number of ruined cities there. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also ruined cities in off the coast of the Yucatan

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<v Speaker 1>on the Caribbean side, and they're very clear when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the earlier versions. I can't say that there

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<v Speaker 1>is a conspiracy because if I start saying that they're

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<v Speaker 1>wiping clean various areas of Google earth Maps, then that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like there's a concerted effort to remove evidence of

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<v Speaker 1>an ancient civilization or earlier periods. I still believe that

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<v Speaker 1>this is happening on the planet Mars, because you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to Google Mars and see a whole bunch of areas,

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<v Speaker 1>including Sidonia, quite clearly, and they are constantly erasing evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of temples and pyramids and ruins. A lot of it

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<v Speaker 1>gets through because the planet was populated by thousands or

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<v Speaker 1>millions of people. But when it comes to Google Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>there is questions about why. At one point the Google

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<v Speaker 1>earth Maps were exposing ruins, underwater ruins on the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>and they seem to disappear in some cases, the real

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<v Speaker 1>obvious ones disappear, So you know, I mean, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>wonder what the deal is why they would do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, holding up the cause, the status quo, holding

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<v Speaker 1>up the tenure of certain professors in universities who need

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<v Speaker 1>to be paid. I can tell you stories about certain

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01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:23.680
<v Speaker 1>professors once they left the university who are going no.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's really like this, not like that of

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<v Speaker 1>the most famous one is Michael Cole, the famous mayaanis

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<v Speaker 1>who who basically acknowledged that the Asian pyramids were very

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<v Speaker 1>similar to the Mayan pyramids. And I think the question

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<v Speaker 1>was was there a blueprint that was passed on to

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<v Speaker 1>the Central and South America and Mexico, And the answer

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty much yes, there was diffusion exists, the exchange

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<v Speaker 1>of culture exchange. I mean, this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>big ones that Earth Ancients is supporting, which yeah, is

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<v Speaker 1>that there is multicultural exchange, that the Mayas, the Maya

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01:17:05.239 --> 01:17:10.920
<v Speaker 1>population and its beginnings were multicultural. You see Asiatic types,

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<v Speaker 1>you see Caucasian types, you see African centric types. In Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get even our own ed Barnhart won't admit

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<v Speaker 1>day He's like, oh no, no, they naturally came that way.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, that's the big problem and I talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this a lot. If you go to China and their

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01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:34.279
<v Speaker 1>academic world, if you go to India, you'll hear a

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01:17:34.319 --> 01:17:38.479
<v Speaker 1>different version of history. You hear a much older, much clearer,

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01:17:38.640 --> 01:17:43.279
<v Speaker 1>much more reasonable sense of what our history is all about.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go to Western culture, it's all about us

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<v Speaker 1>and that's nothing. There's no one else, no other version

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Earth Ancients for you. Well, I help you enjoy that again.

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<v Speaker 1>I am promoting Google Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's free.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a way to wake up to what has happened

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<v Speaker 1>on our planet. And the global flood is on one

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<v Speaker 1>version of many, many, many things.

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<v Speaker 2>That have happened. So I hope you like that.

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<v Speaker 1>slash Earth Ancients. Well, I said for this program today,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank my guest today, doctor Michael j

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<v Speaker 1>and his work on the global flood has always the

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<v Speaker 1>team of Gail tour, Mark Foster and everyone who makes

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<v Speaker 1>this thing happen. You guys rock all right, take care

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<v Speaker 1>of be well and we'll talk to you next time.

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<v Speaker 3>U n last. The next
