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<v Speaker 1>Takes a.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to the show. A. Martin willis your host.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a great guest on. I got to meet

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<v Speaker 2>him at Contact in the Desert. We had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fun together, Dan Harrara, and he has all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of things going on. We're going to be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Harari pardon me. We talked about all kinds of things

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<v Speaker 2>that he has in the works and going on his

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<v Speaker 2>film and all that. Just going to give a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of shout outs and thank yous out there for the

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<v Speaker 2>people that helped me out. First of all, Jack aka

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<v Speaker 2>UFO Jack has been helping out. I kind of let

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<v Speaker 2>him take over my YouTube channel. I think he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>a really great job helping to spice it up and

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<v Speaker 2>keep things going. Now that we're running a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>shows a week, there's a lot more work to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So I also want to thank my producer helps me out, Donna.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't do the show without her. Very helpful in

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<v Speaker 2>so many ways. Supportive as well. Palmer, Thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for all you do. I get all this information

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<v Speaker 2>every day from Palmer on the UFO topic is very helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>Brock helps out. Peggy formally helped out with a Facebook

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<v Speaker 2>page for many years. I always want to say thank

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<v Speaker 2>you to her. Phil helps out. There's so many others.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm probably missing some people, but sorry if

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<v Speaker 2>I missed you, and you're happy to be listening. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do appreciate all the help that everyone does and

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<v Speaker 2>keeping the show going after all these years. Coming up

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<v Speaker 2>in fourteen years now, we've been doing this. A couple

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<v Speaker 2>of things this year. I'm going to be speaking at

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<v Speaker 2>the Exeter UFO Festival that comes up August thirtieth and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty first in Exeter, New Hampshire. I'm probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>be talking before that time. I may run through what

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<v Speaker 2>the incident in Exeter was, so you know what exactly

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<v Speaker 2>happened that day. I might get a guest on, perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>someone like Peter Robins or someone to talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. Shag Harbor, I'm going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>MC again this year up in Shag Harbor, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>October third and fifth, and just something I decided to

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<v Speaker 2>do today. My producer and I are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>heading out to the Skyfire Summit. That's Travis Walton's fiftieth

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<v Speaker 2>anniversary of his incident. That celebration of that and that's

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<v Speaker 2>October seventeenth through the twentieth. That's going to be in Sedona, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful place to be so I'm pretty excited about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Just made the decision to do that today. So check

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<v Speaker 2>out our merchandise. It took me all this time to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out how to add colors to all the different

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<v Speaker 2>T shirts, hats and all that. So if you go

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<v Speaker 2>over to the website that's podcastufo dot com and just

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<v Speaker 2>look onto merchandise there, you can also read the hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of blogs that we have there that Charles has written

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<v Speaker 2>over the years, and there's all kinds of historic information available,

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<v Speaker 2>so please check all that out. We have this week

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday night at eight pm, we have Jennifer Stein.

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<v Speaker 2>She's going to be talking about the anniversary of Travis

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<v Speaker 2>Walton and a lot more. And the set starts at

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<v Speaker 2>eight pm on Thursday. If you're listening on KGr A radio,

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be Friday at six pm, so that same show

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<v Speaker 2>will be running then. So our blog this week that

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<v Speaker 2>Charles Lear wrote is Encounter at Deutchmont Woods and this

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<v Speaker 2>is a nineteen seventy nine report a foresty worker in

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<v Speaker 2>Scotland when he saw a mysterious domed object and other

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<v Speaker 2>weird looking objects. Almost looked like World War two mines,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that floated in the water with all the

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<v Speaker 2>spikes off of them. Very bizarre encounter. So check that

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<v Speaker 2>out at PODCASTUFO dot com. Let's see next week Tuesday

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<v Speaker 2>we have David Schandell. He was also involved in a

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<v Speaker 2>similar situation. I think it was a few months apart

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<v Speaker 2>from what happened with Robert Sallas in the nuke shutdown.

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<v Speaker 2>It was another at nuclear warhead shutdown, So that will

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<v Speaker 2>be on next Tuesday. I met him at Contact in

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<v Speaker 2>the Desert and he was a really interesting guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>sat with him and Bob Sallas and a few other

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<v Speaker 2>people and Peter Davenport. I couldn't believe I got to

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<v Speaker 2>meet him, and so that was a real fun time.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I met Dan Harrari it again Harari

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<v Speaker 2>in Contact at the Desert. We had a really good visit.

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<v Speaker 2>He helped me a lot with all the interviews. I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking forward to doing that every year that I possibly can.

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<v Speaker 2>It was my very favorite UFO conference, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>say that I ever went to. Probably going to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the Ozarks next year. The Ozark Festival down there

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<v Speaker 2>and a couple of others I know for sure that

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<v Speaker 2>I am seeing also at the Pine Bush in June.

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<v Speaker 2>So without further ado, here's our guests. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan. You didn't say the last name this time, high

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<v Speaker 1>you chickened out? I did, Dan, Harari Harari, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>yourself said, rhymes with Ferrari Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right, that's how you're well, Yes, sooner or later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you, Martin, Yeah, great, thank you for having

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<v Speaker 1>me on. You and I had a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>in contact. We were in the press room together. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I pretty much owned that room. There were

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<v Speaker 1>days when you and I owned that room, right, that's right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, boy, what have I I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I'll ever get over how much fun that was.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just I've been to three I went to.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my third in a row and by far

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<v Speaker 1>the most. The vibe, you know, the vibe was great.

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<v Speaker 1>The people it was. I believe we had twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred people I think is what it was. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was the biggest one they'd had since COVID and by

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<v Speaker 1>by every measure, Russ Colthart and Chris Bledsoe and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was there as you know, and they considered it

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<v Speaker 1>one of the all time great contact in the deserts ever.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean, just like you said, a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>you came to a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, the vibe was great. You go out at

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<v Speaker 2>night at the pool and there was you know, people

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<v Speaker 2>playing guitar and drummers, drumming and singing, and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>just the whole vibe everywhere was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I agree?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So, Dan, let's let's hear what you've you were on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think over or a year ago, somewhere around there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know exactly when, but you have a film.

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<v Speaker 2>You showed that film right at Contact.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, so well let's maybe we jump in with

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. Is that a sure go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? All right. So I met Stephen Bassett. We all

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<v Speaker 1>know and love dear friend Steve Bassett. I met him

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<v Speaker 1>in March twenty twenty three at UFO conn in San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco when I was promoting my book called After they

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<v Speaker 1>came right here, we'll talk about that minute, and I

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<v Speaker 1>met Steve Bassett. We became immediate friends. A few months

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<v Speaker 1>later he came to LA We had a very long

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<v Speaker 1>lunch in May twenty twenty three, with a three hour lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the lunch, he said, Dan, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're I've been a Hollywood publicist Martin. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know for forty two years. I have my own

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<v Speaker 1>PR firm in Hollywood for thirty years. So I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood guy. So Stephen goes, you're a Hollywood guy. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a disclosure guy. Dan. What can we do together? So

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<v Speaker 1>I just it was one of the light bulb moments

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<v Speaker 1>that you have in your life. I looked up at

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<v Speaker 1>the ceiling Martin, and I went down and I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at Steven right to his face. I said, We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to create the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. And he goes, that's it,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it, that's right, that's exactly right. So we shook hands. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Four days pulled, I pulled the words out of the universe. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Four days later was contact twenty twenty three. Steven invited me.

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<v Speaker 1>We shared a room. I had never been before. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>heard about it for years, but I had never been.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went and Stephen and I literally together went

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<v Speaker 1>up to everyone Martin you could think of, starting with

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<v Speaker 1>George Norriy, Nick Pope, Paul Heinik, Richard Dolin, and Ron

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<v Speaker 1>James and Ron. I mean, we just went right down

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<v Speaker 1>and we said, we're going to create the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance.

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<v Speaker 1>The first person we told was George Nory. He grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>my shoulder. I'd never met him before. He said, Danny,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be your first member. I go, George,

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<v Speaker 1>You're the first member. Second, the second memory was Nick Pope.

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<v Speaker 1>The third member was Richard Dolton. So it just was

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<v Speaker 1>like wow. So Stephen kept saying, damn, we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>tiger by the tail. We've got a tiger by the tail.

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<v Speaker 1>So by the end of Contact twenty three, we had

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<v Speaker 1>every major, most of them the biggest names. Now here's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem, Martin. All. Through summer and fall twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>Steven and I had to figure out what was the

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Disclosure all We didn't know what it was. We

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea what it was. It was three words.

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<v Speaker 1>So that year twenty twenty three, my daughter created here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, my daughter created the logo in our website.

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<v Speaker 1>Steven invited everyone he knew. I invited everyone I knew,

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<v Speaker 1>And basically, the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance is a global networking

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<v Speaker 1>group that brings together two disparate groups. Historically this was

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<v Speaker 1>our joint idea. Half of our members are Hollywood writer producers, directors, performers,

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<v Speaker 1>content creators, podcasters. The other half are uap UFO ET experiencers,

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<v Speaker 1>researchers and disclosure advocates like Steve Bassett and Danny Shehan.

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<v Speaker 1>So we cut and paste this thing together. We launched

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<v Speaker 1>November first, twenty twenty three. Officially today we're honing in

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<v Speaker 1>on our second year anniversary in November. We have two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty members around the world. We do live

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<v Speaker 1>events in La every quarter. We have a table, a booth,

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<v Speaker 1>and you saw the booth at Contact. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>booth at Contact every year, and we have a booth

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<v Speaker 1>every year at Conscious Life Expo in LA. And our

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<v Speaker 1>members through our live twenty four to seven chat channel,

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<v Speaker 1>which is called a slack channel. They talk to each

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<v Speaker 1>other and we have documentary filmmakers who women who've been

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<v Speaker 1>abducted or or people who've met play ideans and and

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<v Speaker 1>and then people respond, hey, you know I was abducted,

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<v Speaker 1>I met Play. It's very robust our slack channel. It's

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<v Speaker 1>where a lot of people are talking to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and as far as I know Martin's, I would say

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<v Speaker 1>I think six or seven films, TV shows or documentaries

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<v Speaker 1>have been gestating to date through the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance.

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<v Speaker 1>So we grow every month. We had some people. For

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<v Speaker 1>all of you who are looking right now at this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast or listening, Hollywood Disclosure Alliance dot org. Dot org

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<v Speaker 1>is the website and we always want to take in

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<v Speaker 1>new members.

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<v Speaker 2>Now is the membership fee? And is this a nonprofit?

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's? What?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Okay? All right? So it it is a

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<v Speaker 1>five oh one C three nonprofit. We there's no membership fee.

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<v Speaker 1>We request, you know, underlining the words strongly. We strongly

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<v Speaker 1>request an annual donation of fifty dollars and because there

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<v Speaker 1>are expenses involved. But it's been tremendous, it's been I've

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<v Speaker 1>met so many wonderful people, become close friends with I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Pope and I literally are friends and he comes

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<v Speaker 1>to LA, we have dinner together. That's through the Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>Disclosure Line. So it's been really cool. Now, you asked

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<v Speaker 1>me about the film earlier this year. In February this year,

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<v Speaker 1>Steven and I and one of our member members, Jeremy

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<v Speaker 1>Nori no relation to George Norri. He's a very gifted

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<v Speaker 1>documentary filmmaker. We were at Conscious Life Expo in La

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, Jeremy, let's just start interviewing people, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's just let's just make a gorilla style film, documentary

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<v Speaker 1>et phenomenon through film since the you know, the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of Hollywood. Fine, so Martin on the Fly, Man on

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<v Speaker 1>the Fly. During those days, we got, of course, we

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<v Speaker 1>got Ron James. It's just like one of it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like it was like popping them out. Man, we

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<v Speaker 1>were just popping out all these great interviews. So at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of that we had this wealth of interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>Then then we interviewed Thomas Jane, who's a famous movie star.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of our members. He is an experiencer, and

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<v Speaker 1>other people. We cut and paste this thing together. We

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<v Speaker 1>debuted it at Contact. The last day of Contact. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was June second. We had about seventy people

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<v Speaker 1>and they went over very well. And the cool thing. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>originally it was titled we called it it was my title.

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<v Speaker 1>I executive produced the film. It originally was called Inside Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>Colon Aliens, UFOs and the Quest for Disclosure. The filmmaker,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Jeremy his partner, got the distribution deal a

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<v Speaker 1>month ago with Amazon. It's on Amazon, which even my

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<v Speaker 1>mother was amazed by. But Amazon renamed it so if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone wants to watch it, it's now called Secrets in

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<v Speaker 1>the Spotlight. Secrets in the Spotlight. It's my film, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the HDA film. It's about an hour long. It's on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that it's on Amazon, Martin was just thrilling.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, Oh yeah, I know they're renaming things. I just

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<v Speaker 2>had Dean Aliotta Want a few days ago and he

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<v Speaker 2>in order for him to get his film up on Amazon,

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<v Speaker 2>he had to change the title. And I guess that's

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<v Speaker 2>something they're doing now. They don't want to the UFO

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<v Speaker 2>or certain things in the title anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I had dinner with Dean two nights ago in Sherman Ooks.

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<v Speaker 1>We were at party and met his girlfriend. Nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Ally's really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>His girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>His girlfriend's a lot better than him, if you ask me.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's a lot prettier than him too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I hope he's listening. Yeah, all right, So I

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<v Speaker 2>got to ask you this. Here's your you can look.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a cool graphic. I like that. Man, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>My son does a graphics. He works really hard at them.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the question I had, he picked this banner.

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<v Speaker 2>He does all this research. I think chat GPT gets

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<v Speaker 2>involved in everything. So your banner says this Hollywood and

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<v Speaker 2>signer had four UFO encounters. Now I have to ask you,

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<v Speaker 2>is that? So?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had four? Absolutely absolutely correct? Plus you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't mention this. But I recently shaved off that

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<v Speaker 1>rabbinical beard. I guess it's coming back. But the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that your son had that was my rabbinical beard, oh

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<v Speaker 1>once once. I shaved once a year man, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I get hot, But he's coming back. Yeah. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>UFO encounters. Two of them were extraordinarily remarkable, the last

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<v Speaker 1>one was super cool, and one of them was questionable.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, if you want I could run through

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<v Speaker 1>the four quickly. Do you want me to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and we'll keep the best one for last, even

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<v Speaker 2>if it's not chronological. No, okay, how I do as

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<v Speaker 2>if you never.

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<v Speaker 1>Heard of that, well, let me let me do it chronologically, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the big story that I very much want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you is about who my father was,

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<v Speaker 1>right because after my father died, I found out who

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<v Speaker 1>my father was. And that's the key to everything, Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything that I've been doing in disclosure and ufology for

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<v Speaker 1>the last twenty years has to do with my father. So, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy I was thirteen. I grew up in suburban

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. I was in my father's car. He drove

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<v Speaker 1>me home one day from school in the afternoon. As

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the car, me and my dad, a huge

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<v Speaker 1>silver V like V like Vic Hughes silver v Craft

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<v Speaker 1>is suddenly coming and hovering over my father's car in

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<v Speaker 1>suburban New Jersey. No one else was outside. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful sunny day, and I said, Dad, there's a UFO.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop the car. He stopped the car, We got out,

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<v Speaker 1>We walked in front of the car, and Martin, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember this. I'm jumping up and down. I'm thirteen. I go, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>look at Star Trek. Dad, It's Star Trek. Look look right,

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<v Speaker 1>Star Trek in nineteen seventy, Star Trek was a new show. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>My father looked at it, Martin bored to tears, no reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>board to tears, couldn't carell us like he'd seen it

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<v Speaker 1>five million times, no reaction, nothing. So after a few minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>now it's looking if now, Martin, if that was you

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<v Speaker 1>and I, man, we'd be dancing, we'd be high fiving,

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<v Speaker 1>we're crying, we'd be enthralled. My father was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was ahead of Lettuce at the supermarket. He couldn't care us. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So after two minutes of this remarkable thing, that's just now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no smoke, no sound, no propellers, no wings, nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it was the most incongruous thing I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen in my entire life. At the end, about two

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes, my father goes, come on, kid, let's go home. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we go home. We get in the car, we drive home.

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<v Speaker 1>I remembered more recently that the V followed the car

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<v Speaker 1>for another block or two above us, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>just pulled ahead and went off into the distance very slowly.

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<v Speaker 1>I go home into my house nineteen seventy rotary telephone,

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<v Speaker 1>and I called the Asbury Park Press, my hometown newspaper,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, Hi, my name is Danny. I'm thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw a UFO with my dad in West

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<v Speaker 1>Deal on our street and the lady Martin. The lady

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<v Speaker 1>said to me, Sonny, Sonny, we're getting hundreds of phone

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<v Speaker 1>calls right now. I can't talk to you. I'm very sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go. The phones are ringing off the hook.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta go, and the lady hung up. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>that clear as day. No article ever ran in the paper. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, now, my father and I never ever ever

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<v Speaker 1>spoke about that. Even when we got home. We didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell my mother or my brothers. I never told my

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<v Speaker 1>friends nothing. Now that's A. That's A and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>much huge piece of the story. That's the b part

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<v Speaker 1>of the story. So that was my first sighting, was

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<v Speaker 1>that's A. The next sighting I had was in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six, twenty six years later. I'm now living in

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<v Speaker 1>la I had been married, divorced, my ex wife and

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<v Speaker 1>kids moved out to Lancaster, California, when I got divorced,

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<v Speaker 1>near Edward's Air Force Base. So in nineteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>my son was eight. My son, Jordan was eight. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to see him this week in Alaska. He's thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven now. He wanted a telescope for his birthday. So

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<v Speaker 1>I got my telescope. We're in the backyard in Lancaster,

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<v Speaker 1>the High Desert, which is about an hour and a

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<v Speaker 1>half east of Los Angeles northeast. And we saw Mars

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<v Speaker 1>and the moon and you Saturn and you see all

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<v Speaker 1>the cool stuff on it with a telescope, and as

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to put it, I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>go put him to bed, a bright white light Martin

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<v Speaker 1>showed up in the right hand part of the sky,

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<v Speaker 1>bright white light, but egg shaped light, very very bright,

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<v Speaker 1>very high, and it started to streak across the sky,

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<v Speaker 1>very very quickly, in a straight line across the sky.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, Jordan, look, it's a satellite. Isn't that cool?

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<v Speaker 1>We're seeing your satellite? And then Martin, it stopped. I

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<v Speaker 1>suck at this. It stopped in place. It stopped. Martin

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<v Speaker 1>stopped moving and I said, and I said to my son,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, for I literally thought it was going to fall.

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<v Speaker 1>It stopped in place for about thirty seconds, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it went all the way backward. It came from in

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<v Speaker 1>the same line, and then it disappeared. Now I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what that was. Jimmy Church is a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>He said it was probably an experimental UFO from edwards

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<v Speaker 1>it was something like that. It wasn't a meteor comet,

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<v Speaker 1>an airplane or a helicopter. It was either a drone

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<v Speaker 1>or a true UFO or some experimental military craft. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the second one, Okay. The third one, in some

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<v Speaker 1>ways is maybe the most remarkable story. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>who James Gilliland is? Martin sounds familiar. Have you heard

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<v Speaker 1>of the e SETI ranch?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay, yes, yeah, yeah, I've heard the name. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. In two thousand and seven, I joined so cal Moufon.

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<v Speaker 1>I live in Los Angeles, so I joined so cal

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<v Speaker 1>Moufon just because I thought it might be cool to

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<v Speaker 1>find out about UFOs. My very first so cal Moufon meeting, ever,

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<v Speaker 1>oh seven Giorgio Suklos, two years before Ancient Aliens so

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<v Speaker 1>that was was like seeing the Beatles before they were famous.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty cool. He gave a nice minute talk

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<v Speaker 1>about ancient astronaut theory, and you know, the crop circles

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<v Speaker 1>and the pyramids and Betty and Barney and Travis Swalton

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<v Speaker 1>and the Nasca lines and the petroglyphs and UFOs and

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<v Speaker 1>Renaissance art and Martin. I was like this, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>literally and I have tears. I have like tears, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god, where has this information been

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life? I never knew any of these things

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<v Speaker 1>at all. And at the end of this thing, I

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<v Speaker 1>went up to Georgio. I hugged him. I said, Georgio, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you just literally changed my view of the whole world.

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<v Speaker 1>I shook his hand. He goes, thanks, man, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're one of us, knows that was cool. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>A year later, oh eight, so cow Mufon meeting a

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<v Speaker 1>guy named James Gilmeland spoke, he is a cleric. He's

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<v Speaker 1>like he looks like At the time, he looked like

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<v Speaker 1>blonde Jesus. He looked like Jesus with long blonde hair

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<v Speaker 1>He looked like a hippie Jesus if Jesus was a

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<v Speaker 1>blonde man. And he showed remarkably clear, incredible videos and

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<v Speaker 1>home movies of the UFOs that are always above his

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<v Speaker 1>property in upstate in Washington State, Washington State, at the

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<v Speaker 1>base of Mount Adams. It's called the e SETI Ranch.

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<v Speaker 1>E C E T I right. And he spoke and

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<v Speaker 1>he showed these incredible movies. And I said to the

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<v Speaker 1>was Barbara. At the meeting, I said, because he had

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, everyone come to my open house fourth of

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<v Speaker 1>July weekend, two thousand and eight, three days and nights,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, please, can we go? Please go? I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see UFOs. Please can we go? I badgered her

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<v Speaker 1>to go with me. We slept out to Washington State.

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<v Speaker 1>We stayed at a bed and breakfast and for three

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<v Speaker 1>eight we during the afternoons, he had a big white

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<v Speaker 1>of nothing, just nothing. He has a little log cabin

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<v Speaker 1>where he lives, and then there's nothing, and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>Mount Adams in the distance. Mount Adams is one mountain

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<v Speaker 1>south of Mount Rainier, Saint Chain. Mount Rainier was Kenneth Arnold.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where Kenneth Arnold saw his nine in June forty seven. Okay,

412
00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:32.039
<v Speaker 1>so for three days James Gilliland had a white tent

413
00:24:32.119 --> 00:24:34.920
<v Speaker 1>on his property and he had about two hundred people,

414
00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>including me and this girlfriend. And he had people like

415
00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Nick Pope and William Henry and I don't know, Dolan

416
00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>might have been. I don't remember exactly. But they had

417
00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:46.759
<v Speaker 1>guest speakers under the tent. They showed films and slides

418
00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:50.079
<v Speaker 1>and had lunch and it was very cool. And at

419
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>night they made a bonfire on the property and men

420
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and women were singing and dancing, playing guitars and tambourines,

421
00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:01.400
<v Speaker 1>dancing around this fire and at night with SkyWatch crystal

422
00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>clear night, the stars magnificent. There's no smog in Washington

423
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:09.039
<v Speaker 1>State and magnificent. So we looked up and at the

424
00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:12.720
<v Speaker 1>time remember those vhs, the whole movie cameras, the heavy

425
00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:16.079
<v Speaker 1>ones where they the cassette like the whole casset. So

426
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:18.759
<v Speaker 1>I have that on my shoulder and I'm looking up.

427
00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:20.839
<v Speaker 1>So the first night's Friday, and I'm looking up and

428
00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, come on, come on, you can do it.

429
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:23.599
<v Speaker 1>I want to see you if I want to see

430
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>if you come on, I want to do absolutely nothing. Right,

431
00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:27.759
<v Speaker 1>We're looking up for like I don't know, four or

432
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:30.079
<v Speaker 1>five hours, and you know, your neck, your you know this,

433
00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>your neck really hurts after about four hours. Yeah, that

434
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.440
<v Speaker 1>was the first night. Okay. The next day, Saturday, White

435
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Tent Lectures Film Seminars in the afternoon, the fire dancing singing,

436
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>looking up at the sky Saturday night with my super

437
00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:49.880
<v Speaker 1>heavy thing camera, hours and hours and hours. Absolutely nothing

438
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:52.839
<v Speaker 1>is happening. And I'm like, I'm getting so bummed, and

439
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh man, what how disappointing can this be?

440
00:25:56.960 --> 00:25:59.240
<v Speaker 1>The next day was the last day of this open

441
00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:04.640
<v Speaker 1>house event, White Tent Lectures Film Seminars, Fire Dancing singing,

442
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:07.640
<v Speaker 1>looking up at the sky with my head my camera. Now,

443
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>after about two hours Martin on that last night, about

444
00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>two hours, I put the camp I swear this is

445
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:16.039
<v Speaker 1>all true. I put the camera on the ground. Nothing

446
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>is happening. I pull out my car keys from my

447
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:20.880
<v Speaker 1>pants and I said to my girlfriend I said, Barbara,

448
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:23.559
<v Speaker 1>if we leave right now, we can beat the rush

449
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:25.519
<v Speaker 1>and I'll beat all these cars and get back to

450
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:29.519
<v Speaker 1>the hotel. And I'm again, this is true. Man. When

451
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I said those words, Martin, a huge black craft came

452
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:38.759
<v Speaker 1>from behind all of us, hovered over us, two hundred

453
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:41.839
<v Speaker 1>people on the ground by the fire, blocked out the

454
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:47.839
<v Speaker 1>sky okay, and stopped. Now I look up and said,

455
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I said out loud to my girlfriend, I said, what

456
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the hell is that thing? I thought it was a hoax.

457
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought someone had some kind of remote control, like

458
00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's remote control helico with the little I

459
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.359
<v Speaker 1>thought it was some kind of Hollywood special it was.

460
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:08.039
<v Speaker 1>It was enormous. I thought it was Hollywood special effects.

461
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought some they were pulling my leg. They were

462
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>trying to say, yeah, yeah, we have aliens here. Okay,

463
00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:17.039
<v Speaker 1>So it stopped, and now my heart's starting to beat fast,

464
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.759
<v Speaker 1>and I'm getting a little nervous, and I'm like, what

465
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the hell. I really didn't know what is this? Underneath

466
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>this craft suddenly lit up a huge glass. It looked

467
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:32.839
<v Speaker 1>like a glass crystal bulb, like a chandelier bulb, but

468
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:37.880
<v Speaker 1>it was huge. It lit up dark emerald green in

469
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.519
<v Speaker 1>the dark emerald green light contained within this glass bulb.

470
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:44.599
<v Speaker 1>It went buz and then it turned on and it

471
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:48.000
<v Speaker 1>was like the Wizard of Oz green and I looked up.

472
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm starting to shake. I'm like okay. And then

473
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that light beamed down over two hundred people like this

474
00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>light light light light light lie Lie light light lie

475
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Lie like Morse. It was like Morse code.

476
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:08.839
<v Speaker 2>You're doing almost like the Close Encounters of the Third

477
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 2>time music.

478
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.519
<v Speaker 1>What wasn't There was no okay, so there was no

479
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>sound okay, But but here's an announce, you know, like

480
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>in every Spielberg movie when they look up and there

481
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:23.319
<v Speaker 1>everyone's bathed in the white light, right white light. So

482
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>he's white and Spielberg, we were bathed in amber green

483
00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Wizard of Oz colored light. So I look around, we're

484
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:33.839
<v Speaker 1>all looking up and we're all being bathed in this

485
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>beautiful light. Here's what happened. I got a message from

486
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:42.559
<v Speaker 1>the light. Not in my ears or my brain. I

487
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>got it in my heart. I got a message, honest

488
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to God, in my heart. And the message was, hello,

489
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:52.759
<v Speaker 1>we're here, We're sorry, we're late. We know you've been

490
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>waiting for us. We got delayed. Everything is fine, we

491
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 1>love you. We love mankind, because to one another, be

492
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:05.599
<v Speaker 1>kind to planet Earth. We'll see you again another time.

493
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>We have to go now, but we just wanted to

494
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:11.039
<v Speaker 1>say hello and tell you that we loved you. Okay,

495
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And then the light retracted back into the bulb. The

496
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 1>bulb went dark, and now Martin, the craft slowly pulled away,

497
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 1>pulled away, and then bang zoom, and it vanished over

498
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Mount Adams. Well, I cried. Now I'm crying, and people

499
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 1>were all crying. It's like, okay, well, I guess we're

500
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.559
<v Speaker 1>not alone. Because that wasn't a Chinese weather balloon, and

501
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.799
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't an army drone man. That was them. I

502
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:39.119
<v Speaker 1>know it was them, and because they gave me a

503
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>telepathic message and it was in my heart, not even

504
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:42.519
<v Speaker 1>in my years.

505
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>What about everyone else? First of all, did the camera

506
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:46.519
<v Speaker 2>stay on the ground?

507
00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:48.799
<v Speaker 1>The cam? Of course, of course the camera was on

508
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the ground. Why would I I was schlepping it all

509
00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:53.839
<v Speaker 1>those days, and when I needed it it was on

510
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:55.319
<v Speaker 1>the ground turned off of course.

511
00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:02.720
<v Speaker 2>But for another question, okay, besides what did other people?

512
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Did other people hear the message? And did anyone else

513
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 2>film it?

514
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay? So people have asked me that. I don't even

515
00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.559
<v Speaker 1>remember getting home after that night. I remember people looking

516
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>we were all looking at each other and many of

517
00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>us were crying and many of us were hugging. But

518
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>then James Gilli and kind of sat out and said, oh,

519
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:25.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, okay, it's midnight. You know you all got

520
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to go. So we all got in our cars, and

521
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was like it was like, Okay, you

522
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.759
<v Speaker 1>saw the show, It's time to go. I don't I

523
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:36.319
<v Speaker 1>don't even remember talking to my girlfriend about it. I

524
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's just not there. I don't have that

525
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.319
<v Speaker 1>in my head. But for me personally, and I'll tell

526
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.559
<v Speaker 1>you what, that message made me a kinder, gentler person

527
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been I've been a nicer person since

528
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:51.359
<v Speaker 1>that I got that message. Wow, that was the third one. Okay,

529
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the fourth one is a very quick story, and then

530
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get the part B of the original,

531
00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>which is my whole thing. My fourth uh was last

532
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>year at Contact in Desert, the last night of Contact

533
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, they had a CE five event. The

534
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 1>leader of the event was this guy from Australia. It

535
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't Ross Culture. I don't remember his name, and we

536
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>had a bat again, about two hundred people. You know, Martin,

537
00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.359
<v Speaker 1>did you go to Chris Bledsoe's thing this year?

538
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:24.720
<v Speaker 2>I did not? And it.

539
00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Now, well, you know where that grass is by the pools,

540
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 1>to the left of the pool there's a yeah, grassy areas.

541
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 1>It's behind the annex building right, Okay, yes, okay, yeah,

542
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>there's a big, big lin there with beautiful palm trees. Okay.

543
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:46.319
<v Speaker 1>So twenty twenty four, the last night CE five two

544
00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.039
<v Speaker 1>hundred people, this guy from Australia with the microphone. We're

545
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>all in a big circle, were standing holding hands. Two

546
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred people holding hands in a circle. Crystal clear, beautiful

547
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>palm spring summer weather. Couldn't have been nicer, full moon,

548
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. And this guy like, oh, space, brothers,

549
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>we love you, we want to see you, we want

550
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.599
<v Speaker 1>to commune with you. Please show yourselves, please come down.

551
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:11.079
<v Speaker 1>We know you're there. We have open hearts and open minds.

552
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:14.319
<v Speaker 1>We want to meet you. Please land. We want to

553
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:18.079
<v Speaker 1>welcome you. We want to welcome you with open oides.

554
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And this guy's doing this for quite well, so for

555
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>quite a while. This started at eight o'clock at night,

556
00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking this is very, very cool. Everyone here

557
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:28.599
<v Speaker 1>is in the same page where we all want to

558
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>experience something. It's really quite lovely, right. That's at eight.

559
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:35.119
<v Speaker 1>By ten o'clock Martin, I'm like, what the hell, man,

560
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting tired. I don't want to do this anymore.

561
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>So then the guy goes, Okay, you're probably tired. Lay

562
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.559
<v Speaker 1>on the grass. Everyone lay on the grass, look up

563
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and just send good vibrations up into the sky and

564
00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe they'll show up. I said, okay, fine. So now

565
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>it's ten thirty. I'm laying on the grass. And again

566
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:56.319
<v Speaker 1>I swear this is a true story. I'm laying on

567
00:32:56.359 --> 00:32:58.559
<v Speaker 1>the grass. I look at my watch, it's ten thirty.

568
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Be at it. I had to wake up next morning

569
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:03.960
<v Speaker 1>at like a four thirty am for something. So I'm like,

570
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:07.400
<v Speaker 1>and I said to myself. I swear to guys, said

571
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.359
<v Speaker 1>to myself, if i don't see a UFO in the

572
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>next five minutes, I'm going to sleep because the hotel

573
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 1>is right behind the pool. I believe this one or not.

574
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Many people don't believe this. I swear to God on

575
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>my daughter's life, this is a true story. When I

576
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.799
<v Speaker 1>said to myself, five minutes, I'm gone in the sky

577
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>above us. Bang. Bang. There was like a medium bang.

578
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 1>I look up a very dark gray cloud. I'm going

579
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>to say four hundred feet above us appeared a dark

580
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>gray cloud just appeared. Out of this cloud, Martin came

581
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:51.319
<v Speaker 1>a craft. The craft was a V, a medium small V.

582
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.599
<v Speaker 1>It was almost it was fairly small. It came out

583
00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:02.079
<v Speaker 1>very slowly, bright white color looked like vanilla ice cream

584
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>with rounded tips. It was a V with rounded tips.

585
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Within the white color was a ribbon of gold caramel color.

586
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>It looked like vanilla caramel ice cream to me. And

587
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>here's the killer part of this story. Underneath each wing,

588
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:21.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's two wings for a V. Underneath each

589
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:25.400
<v Speaker 1>of the two wings were three one two three one

590
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:31.880
<v Speaker 1>two three octopus suction pods that were lit up translucent,

591
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:36.199
<v Speaker 1>clear brown with veins, and they were all doing this

592
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:40.280
<v Speaker 1>boom boom boom boom boom boom boom bom. They looked

593
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:44.159
<v Speaker 1>like they had heartbeats. They were pulsing. And it went

594
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.039
<v Speaker 1>slowly and I said to the guy next to me,

595
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, whatever that thing is, it's alive. And then

596
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:53.599
<v Speaker 1>it slowly went away up ten twelve fifteen seconds at

597
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.519
<v Speaker 1>the most, and then it just vanished. It was alive,

598
00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and this guy next to me. We hugged each other

599
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:01.159
<v Speaker 1>and then we went to there tell and everyone went

600
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.320
<v Speaker 1>to sleep. That was the fourth one. I cannot figure

601
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>out what the hell that one was. I have no idea.

602
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:08.840
<v Speaker 2>And how many were there? Stole a lot of people

603
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:09.679
<v Speaker 2>there witnessing that.

604
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what. For whatever reason,

605
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 1>either I'm the dumbest bin on the planet because I

606
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 1>didn't think to talk to any I just went on.

607
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I just went I was enthralled. I'll be honest, I

608
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.760
<v Speaker 1>was enthralled and elated. I didn't cry that the last one,

609
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:28.119
<v Speaker 1>but I felt high, like I felt a happy high.

610
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wow, I just saw my fourth UF Oh

611
00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.599
<v Speaker 1>how cool. Wow. And it was at a C five event,

612
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:38.519
<v Speaker 1>which is pretty cool now looking back in time, Martin.

613
00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>When I was at Gilli's ranch in eight we were

614
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>doing the CE five. It just wasn't called that then.

615
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>We were looking up and hoping and waiting, and that's

616
00:35:48.920 --> 00:35:52.400
<v Speaker 1>before the term CE five I think was coined. Those

617
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:55.639
<v Speaker 1>are my four stories about sightings.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, are you going to talk about your your

619
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 2>dad next book? Before you do that, I just wanted

620
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<v Speaker 2>to bring this in right here. This is Steve Rodford.

621
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<v Speaker 2>He is the drummer for the Zombies, and of course

622
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:12.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, he was a replacement drummer, but he's been

623
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 2>with them for many years. And I was on a

624
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.840
<v Speaker 2>music cruise getting coffee and I turned I looked in

625
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:22.079
<v Speaker 2>there he was, and so I told him. You know,

626
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:23.559
<v Speaker 2>he asked what I did. I said, well, I'm a

627
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Speaker 2>fine art antiqua appraiser. And then the more we talked,

628
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>I said I also do something a little different. I

629
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:31.440
<v Speaker 2>do a show on UFOs. And he goes, my god,

630
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I was meant to see you, and I said why,

631
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 2>He says, last night. He says, I've told everyone in

632
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:39.639
<v Speaker 2>the band what happened last night. They're in the upper

633
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>deck of the cruise ship and he was out there

634
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:46.519
<v Speaker 2>on the deck and by basically by himself. It's like

635
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 2>a private deck. And he said he saw this satellite

636
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:52.440
<v Speaker 2>come down, just like you were talking about. He said,

637
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>he saw like it looked like it was moving, but

638
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 2>then it started looking like it was coming down, and

639
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.000
<v Speaker 2>it came down. He said, all of a sudden, it stopped.

640
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 2>And he says, and then it went off on a

641
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>zag and then off and he says, I said, well, yeah,

642
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 2>that was that was not a satellite.

643
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:11.039
<v Speaker 1>Not a satellite, definitely not a satellite.

644
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, So he was actually going to be on

645
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 2>the show. I'm still in touch with him now, and

646
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:16.760
<v Speaker 2>then every few months he'll write me or I'll write him,

647
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:18.599
<v Speaker 2>and you know, he's he wants to be on the

648
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:21.880
<v Speaker 2>show eventually and talk about his encounter. But you know,

649
00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:23.920
<v Speaker 2>it happens a lot on cruise ships, and I guess

650
00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:27.480
<v Speaker 2>it happens a lot with drummers, as you are a drummer.

651
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I am a drummer. I am a drummer. Okay, so

652
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:35.199
<v Speaker 1>let me now explain how I got to where I

653
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>am now today. Yeah, okay, So going back in time,

654
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventy siding that I had with my father,

655
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:48.079
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy, I forgot that that happened entirely for forty

656
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 1>seven years. Okay. I didn't think about it. I didn't

657
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>recall it. I didn't tell others about it. It was

658
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>like bury buried for whatever reason, I don't know, but

659
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I was never discussed ever once in my whole life.

660
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Ever.

661
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, forty seven years later, what happened? My father died.

662
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<v Speaker 1>My father died in April twenty seventeen, in Florida with

663
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<v Speaker 1>his second wife. He had a horrible, horrible death. I

664
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>said goodbye to him a few months before he passed

665
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:22.599
<v Speaker 1>my brother and I okay, so now I'm in La.

666
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:27.960
<v Speaker 1>My father's dead. I was very upset. And again, some

667
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.519
<v Speaker 1>of you won't believe this. I've told this story probably

668
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 1>two hundred times all over the world. It's I swear

669
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>to God, this is a true story. Three days after

670
00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.559
<v Speaker 1>my father died, I went to a deli in La

671
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 1>near Ucla to get a pastrami sandwich in honor of

672
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.599
<v Speaker 1>my father, because he loved the pastrami sandwiches there, and

673
00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:50.679
<v Speaker 1>to think about my dad and to be sad. That

674
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 1>was my goal for that day, was to get a

675
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 1>sandwich and mourn my father. I'm at the Delhi, I

676
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:01.039
<v Speaker 1>ordered the sandwich. The waiter walks away. I'm sitting there

677
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking about my father. A beam of energy, light or

678
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>something remarkable came shooting through the air and hit me

679
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:14.360
<v Speaker 1>in the head like a knuckle sandwich of a person's fist.

680
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:19.119
<v Speaker 1>It was like bang, really hard, bang, invisible and then

681
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:24.159
<v Speaker 1>projected out through my eyes and my brain in the

682
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:26.840
<v Speaker 1>air in front of my face, eight inches in front

683
00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:28.840
<v Speaker 1>of my face, as God is my witness. This is

684
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:33.199
<v Speaker 1>a true story. I saw a whole movie color hologram

685
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>three D home movie with audio of the nineteen seventy

686
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:40.920
<v Speaker 1>UFO sighting I had with my father from forty seven

687
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:45.679
<v Speaker 1>years earlier. It played, It played in the air. It

688
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:50.840
<v Speaker 1>was perfectly rectangular, it was high depth. In the flu

689
00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:54.840
<v Speaker 1>video is my father's car, me jumping up and down,

690
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:58.519
<v Speaker 1>my dad and the v It looked like God had

691
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>been like cecil be the mill like go. I was

692
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:03.280
<v Speaker 1>the cameraman and had been standing like in front of

693
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the car filming this. I see this, Martin, I'm shaking.

694
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:11.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what the hell? I remember that? Oh my god,

695
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 1>I remember that. I'm watching it play in the air,

696
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.239
<v Speaker 1>And this time I saw something. My dad when he

697
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>looked at me and said, come on kid, let's go home.

698
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 1>He winked at me. My dad looked down at me,

699
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 1>winked at me. He said, let's go home. Okay, I'm

700
00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:29.639
<v Speaker 1>going to say twenty thirty seconds this thing played and

701
00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:32.719
<v Speaker 1>then it just epixelated into dust. It went away nothing

702
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.320
<v Speaker 1>right after that. I'm Claire audiit. I've been Claire Audio

703
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:39.760
<v Speaker 1>in my whole life. Every ten years I get a

704
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>message in my writ ear I right after the movie

705
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>went away, I heard a man's voice say to me,

706
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:49.159
<v Speaker 1>in this year, get a pen, Get a pen. Get

707
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a pen. Get a pen. You need a pen, You

708
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.840
<v Speaker 1>need a pen. Get a pen. I asked the waiter

709
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:55.760
<v Speaker 1>for a pen. I put it in my right hand.

710
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I did automatic writing. I've never done it before or since.

711
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>On the table in front of me on the deli

712
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>was a paper placement. My hand wrote the following three things.

713
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>My hand wrote, I'm watching my hand move. Write a

714
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:20.559
<v Speaker 1>book about benevolent aliens. Lead character's father knew about UFOs.

715
00:41:21.039 --> 00:41:24.840
<v Speaker 1>And then I wrote capital A, capital T, capital C.

716
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>And then my hand stopped moving. So now I have

717
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:31.159
<v Speaker 1>this piece of paper. I'm shaking, and I'm thinking, what

718
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the hell is happening. I'm just one of Pastromi's. I'm

719
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.519
<v Speaker 1>starving to death. Where's my sandwich? And I get this

720
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 1>message write a book about benevolent anyway, I go, Well,

721
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 1>I guess I have to write a book. Lead character's

722
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:48.239
<v Speaker 1>father knew about UFOs Martin. My father had just died.

723
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:53.199
<v Speaker 1>It just died ATC all capitals. I looked and looked

724
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:55.039
<v Speaker 1>and looked for ten minutes, and I came up with

725
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>my book after they get This book was given to

726
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:03.079
<v Speaker 1>me out of Delhi three days after my father died

727
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 1>from above. I think my father gave me this book

728
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>from heaven or ET's gave it to me from Mars

729
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:12.599
<v Speaker 1>or wherever they're from. This book was literally given to

730
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>me as a gift from above. It was because it

731
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:21.679
<v Speaker 1>was I'm just saying it's stating effect now now the

732
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>killer of all of this. Who was my father? Okay,

733
00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:28.679
<v Speaker 1>So when my father died in April twenty seventeen, oh

734
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:30.840
<v Speaker 1>so I ate my sandwich, I raced home, and then

735
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I wrote the book. It took me a year to

736
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 1>write twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. It took me a year

737
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 1>to write it as I was writing. It's about two

738
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:42.320
<v Speaker 1>benevolent aliens, a man and a woman, beautiful seven foot

739
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>tall play Idians. Man and woman. They come to Earth

740
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>in the near future. They save mankind. They solve all

741
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:51.360
<v Speaker 1>of our problems, and they work through the schrucky guy

742
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>on page one, who's drowning himself on his seventieth birthday

743
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:58.119
<v Speaker 1>because he's suicidal and doesn't want to be alive. So

744
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:01.199
<v Speaker 1>that's the in a nutshell you should read the book. Oh,

745
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:04.400
<v Speaker 1>it's on audiobook. Just came out on audiobook. All your

746
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>people over there in the comments, please check it out.

747
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:11.039
<v Speaker 1>After they came audiobook, it's on Amazon. Okay, who is

748
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 1>my father? So I go home? Now I knew my

749
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:18.239
<v Speaker 1>father worked for the US Army for forty five years,

750
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>top secret work. He was a physicist and an electronics engineer.

751
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.039
<v Speaker 1>And we knew that my father was involved with guided

752
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.920
<v Speaker 1>missiles and radar systems. That's all we ever knew. We

753
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:34.039
<v Speaker 1>never knew any specifics about any of those things. So

754
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:39.280
<v Speaker 1>after the Deli sandwich happened, I called my mother. My

755
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:41.679
<v Speaker 1>mother was still alive. My mother, God bless her, turns

756
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:45.559
<v Speaker 1>ninety one in October. I go, mom, all the years

757
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:50.079
<v Speaker 1>you were with dad, did he ever mention UFOs? And

758
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.000
<v Speaker 1>my mother told me Martins. My mother told me a

759
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 1>story I'd never heard before. She said, in the early sixties,

760
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>they took your father deep into the vault at Fort

761
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Mammoth Army Base. It was in New Jersey, Fort Mahmatomery Base,

762
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:06.719
<v Speaker 1>and they showed him something in the vault, highly highly

763
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 1>top secret. My father came home from work that night.

764
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>He was pale and shaking and nervous and very upset.

765
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:18.039
<v Speaker 1>My mother said to him, honey, what's wrong. My father said,

766
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 1>I saw something today that's above top secret. I can

767
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>never tell you or anyone about it as long as

768
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I live. My father walked down the hall to the bedroom.

769
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:31.360
<v Speaker 1>My mother said, your father was never the same after

770
00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>that day. Okay, now, those of you who know that

771
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Jackie Gleese and Richard Nixon story, Yes, Jackie Gleeson's wife,

772
00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:44.559
<v Speaker 1>Marilyn said, Jackie Gleeson was never the same after that day.

773
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.079
<v Speaker 1>What does that sound like. It sounds like my father

774
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>saw a craft, or a chunk of technology, or an

775
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:54.599
<v Speaker 1>alien living or an alien dead. I believe he saw

776
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.119
<v Speaker 1>a piece of technology. Okay, that's number one, number two.

777
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>A few days after my my father died, I found

778
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:05.840
<v Speaker 1>this in a scrap book that I had from nineteen

779
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.320
<v Speaker 1>eighty five that my father had given me. I had

780
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>never read this before in my life. This is a

781
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:14.159
<v Speaker 1>profile of my father from his workplace from nineteen eighty five.

782
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>My father invented laser guided drones for the army. He

783
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>tested the first one of its kind ever in nineteen

784
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:28.320
<v Speaker 1>seventy five at White Sands Missile Testing Range, and this

785
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:31.239
<v Speaker 1>drone destroyed a tank that was on the ground. This

786
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:33.800
<v Speaker 1>is in writing in my hand right here. My father

787
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:38.039
<v Speaker 1>invented drones for the army. Okay, nobody knew that. Okay,

788
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty cool. M Okay. Next thing, I happened to

789
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:46.480
<v Speaker 1>be reading Richard Dolan's book UFOs in the National Security

790
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:48.559
<v Speaker 1>State when I was writing my book After They Give.

791
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>In the back of this book is a glossary of

792
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:58.599
<v Speaker 1>UFO military UFO sightings above military bases from nineteen forties,

793
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:02.039
<v Speaker 1>I think through the nineteen nineties. In nineteen fifty one

794
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and nineteen fifty two, there were very prominent UFO sightings

795
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>above Fort Mommoth, New Jersey, right when my father had

796
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 1>started working there. They had happened just a few months

797
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.800
<v Speaker 1>after he started to work there, and my father worked

798
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>in the radar branch division, the radar branch, so my

799
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:26.039
<v Speaker 1>father either saw them on radar or heard about them,

800
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:28.199
<v Speaker 1>or saw them with his own eyes. He had to

801
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:31.760
<v Speaker 1>have heard about them. The second one of these events

802
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:37.239
<v Speaker 1>triggered a Project Blue book. Okay, so that's that part. Okay,

803
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Now it gets even better. I recently read this book

804
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.840
<v Speaker 1>called Fort Mammoth, the US Army's House of magic. In

805
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:48.639
<v Speaker 1>this book Fort Mommoth's radar branch, where my father worked

806
00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:55.800
<v Speaker 1>for forty five years. They invented radar, walkie talkies, night

807
00:46:55.880 --> 00:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>vision goggles, FM radio, air to ground radio, drones, a

808
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:10.159
<v Speaker 1>million other things that I'm forgetting right now. Four thousand patents,

809
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:15.440
<v Speaker 1>weather satellites and TV satellites were invented where my father

810
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>worked for forty five years. I didn't know much of that.

811
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:24.639
<v Speaker 1>And at four thousand patents were given to Fort Mommouth's

812
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:29.519
<v Speaker 1>Army base, the division where my father worked. Okay, next

813
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to two more little blurbs. In twenty twenty three, Stephen

814
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Greer gave a press conference from Washington, d C. It

815
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:39.239
<v Speaker 1>was on live TV. I watched it live. Part of

816
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 1>his press conference, Martin, he showed a huge chart of

817
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and forty five US military bases that Greer

818
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:51.599
<v Speaker 1>had proof of through his whistleblower network that worked on

819
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:56.639
<v Speaker 1>reverse engineering of recovered UFO technology. One hundred and forty

820
00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:59.719
<v Speaker 1>five bases. I frees framed my big TV. You know

821
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.039
<v Speaker 1>we all have a big TV now. I freees framed that.

822
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:04.519
<v Speaker 1>I got up. I went with my finger number fifty

823
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:09.199
<v Speaker 1>one on Greer's chart. Fort Mammoth, New Jersey. So this

824
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 1>was through his whistleblowers had told him that Fort Mommoth

825
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:16.840
<v Speaker 1>worked on recovered UFOs. The last clue, last clue is this.

826
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:20.559
<v Speaker 1>I just read this recently, Joe McCarthy Fort Mommoth in

827
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the Deep State. In this book which I just read,

828
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<v Speaker 1>it says that Fort Mammoth was involved with the Air

829
00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:30.119
<v Speaker 1>Force on Project Blue Book. Okay, so now we put

830
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:34.800
<v Speaker 1>all the clues together. The reason my dad didn't react

831
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.239
<v Speaker 1>when he and I saw that UFO together he knew

832
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:40.159
<v Speaker 1>what it was. My father knew what it was. He'd

833
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:43.719
<v Speaker 1>probably seen it at White Sands or was involved with it,

834
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:47.000
<v Speaker 1>or if it was a man made drone using etc. Technology.

835
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, I know that my father knew what

836
00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:53.760
<v Speaker 1>it was. And three days after he died, when I

837
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:56.880
<v Speaker 1>got that home movie at the Delhi, I think that

838
00:48:56.920 --> 00:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>it was my father from heaven sent me that movie

839
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:03.599
<v Speaker 1>and said to me, Danny, remember the UFO we saw

840
00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.880
<v Speaker 1>fifty years ago. I knew what that was, and I

841
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:10.519
<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell you because of my NDA's I'm dead now

842
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted you to know, and I swear to

843
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:15.119
<v Speaker 1>you aren't. And I believe it was a gift from

844
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:16.480
<v Speaker 1>my father from the other side.

845
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that is quite a story, I know. And so

846
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:27.079
<v Speaker 2>you said your your dad passed away in twenty seventeen.

847
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Is that correct?

848
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 2>So did you ever get a chance to talk to

849
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:34.800
<v Speaker 2>him about your interest in UFO since nineteen nineties?

850
00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:38.840
<v Speaker 1>That's such a great question. A couple of times I

851
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 1>asked him, Hey, Dad, have you ever seen the UFO

852
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 1>or do you ever think that there were? Oh? Yeah,

853
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, I don't know about that stuff.

854
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:48.679
<v Speaker 1>Tiki he and he'd walk away real fast, like getting

855
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:54.039
<v Speaker 1>like a nervous laugh. I wish all right. So the

856
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>last three years of his life he had severe Alzheimer's.

857
00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:58.920
<v Speaker 1>He didn't even know who he was, so I couldn't

858
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:01.639
<v Speaker 1>have asked him at the end when I was more

859
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 1>into the UFO stuff. But no, the answer is, my

860
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:07.679
<v Speaker 1>dad never gave me a straight answer while he was alive.

861
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he told anyone. I don't think he

862
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:12.440
<v Speaker 1>told his I know he didn't tell my mother me

863
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:14.719
<v Speaker 1>or my brother's and I don't think he told his

864
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.199
<v Speaker 1>second wife either. I just don't think he told because

865
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:20.199
<v Speaker 1>in those days, right, my dad man Martin. Once my

866
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.760
<v Speaker 1>dad was like in his forties, he's like twenty five

867
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:25.199
<v Speaker 1>more years, I get my pension. I get my pension

868
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:27.800
<v Speaker 1>fifteen more years and I'm going to get my pension.

869
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:32.159
<v Speaker 1>My father wasn't going to blow his pension. I'm telling

870
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 1>my mother or me about UFO's and aliens. He wasn't

871
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.159
<v Speaker 1>going to do it. So that's what happened.

872
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of people like for instance, you

873
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:44.679
<v Speaker 2>know Ben Hansen, you know, talks about his grandfather, right.

874
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 2>I saw at the very last, you know, when he

875
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:50.519
<v Speaker 2>was on his deathbed, basically told I.

876
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Wish my dad had My dad didn't know his own

877
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:54.280
<v Speaker 1>name on his deathbed.

878
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's sad that happens, I know.

879
00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:00.400
<v Speaker 1>But but listen, somebody gave me that little movie Delhi.

880
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I it was either ets God himself or

881
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>my father. I choose it my father. I think my

882
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.440
<v Speaker 1>father gave me a message. My father spoke to me

883
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:13.320
<v Speaker 1>a few times s Martin after that after his death.

884
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:16.239
<v Speaker 1>He actually spoke to me a sentence after he died.

885
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:18.159
<v Speaker 1>And then once he came in my room turned my

886
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:20.559
<v Speaker 1>lightside and off, and another time he came in my

887
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>room and played my drums weeks and weeks after he

888
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:26.119
<v Speaker 1>had died. So my father was at presence from the

889
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>other side. I know he was.

890
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:32.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of people may listen to this

891
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:36.400
<v Speaker 2>and say, you know, that's BS, But I do have

892
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:39.679
<v Speaker 2>to tell me, you know, I do have to tell

893
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:41.639
<v Speaker 2>you that, you know, I had something happened. I was

894
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:45.599
<v Speaker 2>extremely close close to my grandmother and I had something happen.

895
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't I can't say for sure that it was her,

896
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:52.599
<v Speaker 2>but it was her, you know, in my mind. And

897
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:56.239
<v Speaker 2>you know it was basically in a dream, and everything

898
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:59.440
<v Speaker 2>that was in the dream was that really did happen

899
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:03.360
<v Speaker 2>was something that you couldn't explain. So I have no

900
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:06.320
<v Speaker 2>idea what these things are, if it's an energy or

901
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.559
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is. But you know, I'm not I don't

902
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.039
<v Speaker 2>discount something like that. The bizarre thing is the movie

903
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:17.239
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about that is I can't even imagine. Even

904
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.239
<v Speaker 2>though you're explaining what it is what happened, I can't.

905
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.599
<v Speaker 2>I still can't picture what you're it was.

906
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:24.800
<v Speaker 1>It was the most it was other than my children

907
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:27.559
<v Speaker 1>being born. It was the most remarkable moment of my

908
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:32.039
<v Speaker 1>life because it was a purely supernatural, paranormal moment in

909
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:36.800
<v Speaker 1>daylight at a deli at noon right a movie ab

910
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:40.320
<v Speaker 1>of your life playing in the air. There's no screen here, right,

911
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:44.079
<v Speaker 1>there's no there's no and it was being projected through

912
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:47.400
<v Speaker 1>my like it was being projected through my brain in

913
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:50.519
<v Speaker 1>my eye, like my eyes had become a movie projected.

914
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.119
<v Speaker 1>And Steve Bassett said to me, Dan, that's the most

915
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.239
<v Speaker 1>because that's the greatest story I think I've ever heard.

916
00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I go, see, there were no mushrooms on the no

917
00:52:58.079 --> 00:52:59.599
<v Speaker 2>mushrooms on the Postormi sandwich.

918
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Whether I'm just teasing you, I've never done jugs in

919
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:04.039
<v Speaker 1>my life.

920
00:53:04.679 --> 00:53:05.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm teasing.

921
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I spoke pot in high school. Let me

922
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.800
<v Speaker 1>call it you. Yeah, can we talk about Wow Signal

923
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:10.800
<v Speaker 1>before we run out of time?

924
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's do that because we've got a you know,

925
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.920
<v Speaker 2>three or four minutes left basically, so yeah, okay, the

926
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Wow Signal podcast.

927
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:21.480
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Well it's the Wow Signal News website. So

928
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:25.800
<v Speaker 1>in March this year, my daughter and I crafted created

929
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:30.440
<v Speaker 1>and launched the Wow Signal Dot News. The Wow Signal

930
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:36.639
<v Speaker 1>Dot News. It's a global UFO news resource website. We

931
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:44.079
<v Speaker 1>get news from all over the world. We post press releases, photos, videos, experiences,

932
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:47.239
<v Speaker 1>white papers, guest columns. In fact, Martin, if you ever

933
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:49.400
<v Speaker 1>run want to write a guest column. Send it to me,

934
00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:53.079
<v Speaker 1>I'll run it for you. And we are honing in

935
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:56.480
<v Speaker 1>on a million people around the world that are looking

936
00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:58.679
<v Speaker 1>at this thing. There it is. My daughter created that logo.

937
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:03.599
<v Speaker 1>I like it. And every Monday we put new news

938
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:07.280
<v Speaker 1>on the homepage, and then every Thursday, my daughter crafts

939
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:10.960
<v Speaker 1>the news into a newsletter that goes around the world.

940
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:14.199
<v Speaker 1>And at the top, at the bar, at the very top,

941
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:17.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a thing that says, subscribe, it's free. Next year,

942
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:21.239
<v Speaker 1>we're going to there you go, anyone who's watching right now,

943
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:24.079
<v Speaker 1>subscribe it's free. Next year we're going to start charging

944
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 1>the subscription. But it's become a phenomenon mark and it's

945
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:30.280
<v Speaker 1>become huge, and I'm very grateful that I had the

946
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:31.639
<v Speaker 1>success I've had with this thing.

947
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm actually on the mailing list and I've got

948
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:37.800
<v Speaker 2>to look into it at more. But I thought, did

949
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:39.400
<v Speaker 2>you not do a podcast too?

950
00:54:39.599 --> 00:54:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Or do I did? I did? I did all right,

951
00:54:41.519 --> 00:54:45.119
<v Speaker 1>so real quick. In twenty twenty four, I had a

952
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:49.440
<v Speaker 1>podcast on marchi kason X Network called Live from Hollywood

953
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:52.840
<v Speaker 1>It's Paranormal Tonight. I did that for one year, then

954
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:55.800
<v Speaker 1>guess then the first six months of this year, I

955
00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:58.840
<v Speaker 1>altered it to be called from Hollywood. It's Paranormal tonight.

956
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm taking in a break and I'll tell you this.

957
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you an exclusive. In January, I'm going to

958
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:07.840
<v Speaker 1>launch the HDA Presents The Women of Euthology. It's going

959
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:10.639
<v Speaker 1>to be my new podcast in January, the Women of Euthology.

960
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:13.800
<v Speaker 1>That's the first the first person on the planet to

961
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:14.639
<v Speaker 1>hear that news.

962
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that's great. And I often try to get

963
00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:23.119
<v Speaker 2>women guests only because of the fact that, you know,

964
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:25.960
<v Speaker 2>there are few and far in between exactly, you know,

965
00:55:26.199 --> 00:55:28.440
<v Speaker 2>And I do have Mindy coming up.

966
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:30.119
<v Speaker 1>I just I love Bendy.

967
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's wonderful and I'm trying to think of some others.

968
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:36.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, she just launched her own show called The Bureau.

969
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:37.039
<v Speaker 1>You know that.

970
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I believe Bill kg R a radio I think

971
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:41.559
<v Speaker 2>he told me that.

972
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, The Bureau. Yeah, Middy's great. I love her.

973
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, it's been a real fun conversation with Thank you, Dan.

974
00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Yeah. I really wanted to talk to you

975
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:53.159
<v Speaker 1>about my dad because a lot of this I just

976
00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:55.239
<v Speaker 1>have learned it in the last couple of years. And

977
00:55:55.679 --> 00:55:57.679
<v Speaker 1>the more I learned about my dad and dig into

978
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:00.760
<v Speaker 1>where he worked for it moment they invent thousands and

979
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:04.920
<v Speaker 1>thousands of things. FM radio, Martin. They invented FM radio

980
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.880
<v Speaker 1>where my dad worked, and that later became consumer products.

981
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:12.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm quite sure my dad knew whatever something. He

982
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:16.719
<v Speaker 1>knew something about alien technology and used it into his inventions,

983
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and he took it with it to his grave. Unfortunately.

984
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 1>That's why people like Grush and whoever you are coming

985
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.960
<v Speaker 1>forward now are heroes. I wish my dad had had

986
00:56:23.960 --> 00:56:25.159
<v Speaker 1>the courage to do that, you know.

987
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, hey, thanks so much. It's been a

988
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:28.239
<v Speaker 2>real pleasure.

989
00:56:28.239 --> 00:56:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, brother, thank you man anything.

990
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:33.559
<v Speaker 2>Take care, Yeah, all right, everyone, so don't forget. Coming

991
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:35.880
<v Speaker 2>up in a couple of days on Thursday, eight pm

992
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Stein. And also next Tuesday is David Schandell on

993
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Nuke's getting shut down about the same time as Bob

994
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Sealas had his event. Thanks a lot, and remember to

995
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:49.559
<v Speaker 2>keep your eyes to this