Speaker 1: Takes a.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show. A. Martin willis your host.
Speaker 2: I have a great guest on. I got to meet
Speaker 2: him at Contact in the Desert. We had a lot
Speaker 2: of fun together, Dan Harrara, and he has all kinds
Speaker 2: of things going on. We're going to be talking about
Speaker 2: Harari pardon me. We talked about all kinds of things
Speaker 2: that he has in the works and going on his
Speaker 2: film and all that. Just going to give a couple
Speaker 2: of shout outs and thank yous out there for the
Speaker 2: people that helped me out. First of all, Jack aka
Speaker 2: UFO Jack has been helping out. I kind of let
Speaker 2: him take over my YouTube channel. I think he's doing
Speaker 2: a really great job helping to spice it up and
Speaker 2: keep things going. Now that we're running a couple of
Speaker 2: shows a week, there's a lot more work to do.
Speaker 2: So I also want to thank my producer helps me out, Donna.
Speaker 2: I couldn't do the show without her. Very helpful in
Speaker 2: so many ways. Supportive as well. Palmer, Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for all you do. I get all this information
Speaker 2: every day from Palmer on the UFO topic is very helpful.
Speaker 2: Brock helps out. Peggy formally helped out with a Facebook
Speaker 2: page for many years. I always want to say thank
Speaker 2: you to her. Phil helps out. There's so many others.
Speaker 2: I know I'm probably missing some people, but sorry if
Speaker 2: I missed you, and you're happy to be listening. But
Speaker 2: I do appreciate all the help that everyone does and
Speaker 2: keeping the show going after all these years. Coming up
Speaker 2: in fourteen years now, we've been doing this. A couple
Speaker 2: of things this year. I'm going to be speaking at
Speaker 2: the Exeter UFO Festival that comes up August thirtieth and
Speaker 2: thirty first in Exeter, New Hampshire. I'm probably going to
Speaker 2: be talking before that time. I may run through what
Speaker 2: the incident in Exeter was, so you know what exactly
Speaker 2: happened that day. I might get a guest on, perhaps
Speaker 2: someone like Peter Robins or someone to talk about that
Speaker 2: a little bit. Shag Harbor, I'm going to be the
Speaker 2: MC again this year up in Shag Harbor, and that's
Speaker 2: October third and fifth, and just something I decided to
Speaker 2: do today. My producer and I are going to be
Speaker 2: heading out to the Skyfire Summit. That's Travis Walton's fiftieth
Speaker 2: anniversary of his incident. That celebration of that and that's
Speaker 2: October seventeenth through the twentieth. That's going to be in Sedona, Arizona,
Speaker 2: a beautiful place to be so I'm pretty excited about that.
Speaker 2: Just made the decision to do that today. So check
Speaker 2: out our merchandise. It took me all this time to
Speaker 2: figure out how to add colors to all the different
Speaker 2: T shirts, hats and all that. So if you go
Speaker 2: over to the website that's podcastufo dot com and just
Speaker 2: look onto merchandise there, you can also read the hundreds
Speaker 2: of blogs that we have there that Charles has written
Speaker 2: over the years, and there's all kinds of historic information available,
Speaker 2: so please check all that out. We have this week
Speaker 2: on Thursday night at eight pm, we have Jennifer Stein.
Speaker 2: She's going to be talking about the anniversary of Travis
Speaker 2: Walton and a lot more. And the set starts at
Speaker 2: eight pm on Thursday. If you're listening on KGr A radio,
Speaker 2: that'll be Friday at six pm, so that same show
Speaker 2: will be running then. So our blog this week that
Speaker 2: Charles Lear wrote is Encounter at Deutchmont Woods and this
Speaker 2: is a nineteen seventy nine report a foresty worker in
Speaker 2: Scotland when he saw a mysterious domed object and other
Speaker 2: weird looking objects. Almost looked like World War two mines,
Speaker 2: you know that floated in the water with all the
Speaker 2: spikes off of them. Very bizarre encounter. So check that
Speaker 2: out at PODCASTUFO dot com. Let's see next week Tuesday
Speaker 2: we have David Schandell. He was also involved in a
Speaker 2: similar situation. I think it was a few months apart
Speaker 2: from what happened with Robert Sallas in the nuke shutdown.
Speaker 2: It was another at nuclear warhead shutdown, So that will
Speaker 2: be on next Tuesday. I met him at Contact in
Speaker 2: the Desert and he was a really interesting guy. I
Speaker 2: sat with him and Bob Sallas and a few other
Speaker 2: people and Peter Davenport. I couldn't believe I got to
Speaker 2: meet him, and so that was a real fun time.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I met Dan Harrari it again Harari
Speaker 2: in Contact at the Desert. We had a really good visit.
Speaker 2: He helped me a lot with all the interviews. I did.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to doing that every year that I possibly can.
Speaker 2: It was my very favorite UFO conference, I have to
Speaker 2: say that I ever went to. Probably going to go
Speaker 2: to the Ozarks next year. The Ozark Festival down there
Speaker 2: and a couple of others I know for sure that
Speaker 2: I am seeing also at the Pine Bush in June.
Speaker 2: So without further ado, here's our guests. Welcome.
Speaker 1: Dan. You didn't say the last name this time, high
Speaker 1: you chickened out? I did, Dan, Harari Harari, right, you
Speaker 1: yourself said, rhymes with Ferrari Dan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's how you're well, Yes, sooner or later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Martin, Yeah, great, thank you for having
Speaker 1: me on. You and I had a lot of fun
Speaker 1: in contact. We were in the press room together. In fact,
Speaker 1: you and I pretty much owned that room. There were
Speaker 1: days when you and I owned that room, right, that's right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, boy, what have I I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'll ever get over how much fun that was.
Speaker 1: That was just I've been to three I went to.
Speaker 1: That was my third in a row and by far
Speaker 1: the most. The vibe, you know, the vibe was great.
Speaker 1: The people it was. I believe we had twenty three
Speaker 1: hundred people I think is what it was. And it
Speaker 1: was the biggest one they'd had since COVID and by
Speaker 1: by every measure, Russ Colthart and Chris Bledsoe and you know,
Speaker 1: everyone was there as you know, and they considered it
Speaker 1: one of the all time great contact in the deserts ever.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, just like you said, a good one,
Speaker 1: you came to a good one.
Speaker 2: I know, the vibe was great. You go out at
Speaker 2: night at the pool and there was you know, people
Speaker 2: playing guitar and drummers, drumming and singing, and I mean
Speaker 2: just the whole vibe everywhere was so much fun.
Speaker 1: Right, I agree?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So, Dan, let's let's hear what you've you were on.
Speaker 2: I think over or a year ago, somewhere around there.
Speaker 2: I don't really know exactly when, but you have a film.
Speaker 2: You showed that film right at Contact.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so well let's maybe we jump in with
Speaker 1: Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. Is that a sure go ahead?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay? All right. So I met Stephen Bassett. We all
Speaker 1: know and love dear friend Steve Bassett. I met him
Speaker 1: in March twenty twenty three at UFO conn in San
Speaker 1: Francisco when I was promoting my book called After they
Speaker 1: came right here, we'll talk about that minute, and I
Speaker 1: met Steve Bassett. We became immediate friends. A few months
Speaker 1: later he came to LA We had a very long
Speaker 1: lunch in May twenty twenty three, with a three hour lunch.
Speaker 1: At the end of the lunch, he said, Dan, you
Speaker 1: know you're I've been a Hollywood publicist Martin. I think
Speaker 1: you know for forty two years. I have my own
Speaker 1: PR firm in Hollywood for thirty years. So I'm a
Speaker 1: Hollywood guy. So Stephen goes, you're a Hollywood guy. I'm
Speaker 1: a disclosure guy. Dan. What can we do together? So
Speaker 1: I just it was one of the light bulb moments
Speaker 1: that you have in your life. I looked up at
Speaker 1: the ceiling Martin, and I went down and I looked
Speaker 1: at Steven right to his face. I said, We're going
Speaker 1: to create the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. And he goes, that's it,
Speaker 1: that's it, that's right, that's exactly right. So we shook hands. Wow.
Speaker 1: Four days pulled, I pulled the words out of the universe. Okay.
Speaker 1: Four days later was contact twenty twenty three. Steven invited me.
Speaker 1: We shared a room. I had never been before. I'd
Speaker 1: heard about it for years, but I had never been.
Speaker 1: And I went and Stephen and I literally together went
Speaker 1: up to everyone Martin you could think of, starting with
Speaker 1: George Norriy, Nick Pope, Paul Heinik, Richard Dolin, and Ron
Speaker 1: James and Ron. I mean, we just went right down
Speaker 1: and we said, we're going to create the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance.
Speaker 1: The first person we told was George Nory. He grabbed
Speaker 1: my shoulder. I'd never met him before. He said, Danny,
Speaker 1: I want to be your first member. I go, George,
Speaker 1: You're the first member. Second, the second memory was Nick Pope.
Speaker 1: The third member was Richard Dolton. So it just was
Speaker 1: like wow. So Stephen kept saying, damn, we've got a
Speaker 1: tiger by the tail. We've got a tiger by the tail.
Speaker 1: So by the end of Contact twenty three, we had
Speaker 1: every major, most of them the biggest names. Now here's
Speaker 1: the problem, Martin. All. Through summer and fall twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: Steven and I had to figure out what was the
Speaker 1: Hollywood Disclosure all We didn't know what it was. We
Speaker 1: had no idea what it was. It was three words.
Speaker 1: So that year twenty twenty three, my daughter created here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my daughter created the logo in our website.
Speaker 1: Steven invited everyone he knew. I invited everyone I knew,
Speaker 1: And basically, the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance is a global networking
Speaker 1: group that brings together two disparate groups. Historically this was
Speaker 1: our joint idea. Half of our members are Hollywood writer producers, directors, performers,
Speaker 1: content creators, podcasters. The other half are uap UFO ET experiencers,
Speaker 1: researchers and disclosure advocates like Steve Bassett and Danny Shehan.
Speaker 1: So we cut and paste this thing together. We launched
Speaker 1: November first, twenty twenty three. Officially today we're honing in
Speaker 1: on our second year anniversary in November. We have two
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty members around the world. We do live
Speaker 1: events in La every quarter. We have a table, a booth,
Speaker 1: and you saw the booth at Contact. We have a
Speaker 1: booth at Contact every year, and we have a booth
Speaker 1: every year at Conscious Life Expo in LA. And our
Speaker 1: members through our live twenty four to seven chat channel,
Speaker 1: which is called a slack channel. They talk to each
Speaker 1: other and we have documentary filmmakers who women who've been
Speaker 1: abducted or or people who've met play ideans and and
Speaker 1: and then people respond, hey, you know I was abducted,
Speaker 1: I met Play. It's very robust our slack channel. It's
Speaker 1: where a lot of people are talking to each other,
Speaker 1: and as far as I know Martin's, I would say
Speaker 1: I think six or seven films, TV shows or documentaries
Speaker 1: have been gestating to date through the Hollywood Disclosure Alliance.
Speaker 1: So we grow every month. We had some people. For
Speaker 1: all of you who are looking right now at this
Speaker 1: podcast or listening, Hollywood Disclosure Alliance dot org. Dot org
Speaker 1: is the website and we always want to take in
Speaker 1: new members.
Speaker 2: Now is the membership fee? And is this a nonprofit?
Speaker 2: What's what's? What?
Speaker 1: Is it? Okay? All right? So it it is a
Speaker 1: five oh one C three nonprofit. We there's no membership fee.
Speaker 1: We request, you know, underlining the words strongly. We strongly
Speaker 1: request an annual donation of fifty dollars and because there
Speaker 1: are expenses involved. But it's been tremendous, it's been I've
Speaker 1: met so many wonderful people, become close friends with I mean,
Speaker 1: Nick Pope and I literally are friends and he comes
Speaker 1: to LA, we have dinner together. That's through the Hollywood
Speaker 1: Disclosure Line. So it's been really cool. Now, you asked
Speaker 1: me about the film earlier this year. In February this year,
Speaker 1: Steven and I and one of our member members, Jeremy
Speaker 1: Nori no relation to George Norri. He's a very gifted
Speaker 1: documentary filmmaker. We were at Conscious Life Expo in La
Speaker 1: and I said, Jeremy, let's just start interviewing people, and
Speaker 1: let's just let's just make a gorilla style film, documentary
Speaker 1: film about how Hollywood historically has been presenting the UFO
Speaker 1: et phenomenon through film since the you know, the beginning
Speaker 1: of Hollywood. Fine, so Martin on the Fly, Man on
Speaker 1: the Fly. During those days, we got, of course, we
Speaker 1: got Steve Bassett, but we got Danny Sheehan, we got
Speaker 1: Jimmy Church, we got Linda moulten how we got Britt Elders,
Speaker 1: we got Serena Wright Taylor, we got Ron Janics, we
Speaker 1: got Ron James. It's just like one of it. It
Speaker 1: was like it was like popping them out. Man, we
Speaker 1: were just popping out all these great interviews. So at
Speaker 1: the end of that we had this wealth of interviews.
Speaker 1: Then then we interviewed Thomas Jane, who's a famous movie star.
Speaker 1: He's one of our members. He is an experiencer, and
Speaker 1: other people. We cut and paste this thing together. We
Speaker 1: debuted it at Contact. The last day of Contact. I
Speaker 1: think it was June second. We had about seventy people
Speaker 1: in the room. Most of them were each DA members
Speaker 1: and they went over very well. And the cool thing. Now,
Speaker 1: originally it was titled we called it it was my title.
Speaker 1: I executive produced the film. It originally was called Inside Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Colon Aliens, UFOs and the Quest for Disclosure. The filmmaker,
Speaker 1: my friend Jeremy his partner, got the distribution deal a
Speaker 1: month ago with Amazon. It's on Amazon, which even my
Speaker 1: mother was amazed by. But Amazon renamed it so if
Speaker 1: anyone wants to watch it, it's now called Secrets in
Speaker 1: the Spotlight. Secrets in the Spotlight. It's my film, it's
Speaker 1: the HDA film. It's about an hour long. It's on Amazon.
Speaker 1: And the fact that it's on Amazon, Martin was just thrilling.
Speaker 2: Really, Oh yeah, I know they're renaming things. I just
Speaker 2: had Dean Aliotta Want a few days ago and he
Speaker 2: in order for him to get his film up on Amazon,
Speaker 2: he had to change the title. And I guess that's
Speaker 2: something they're doing now. They don't want to the UFO
Speaker 2: or certain things in the title anymore.
Speaker 1: I had dinner with Dean two nights ago in Sherman Ooks.
Speaker 1: We were at party and met his girlfriend. Nice guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Ally's really nice.
Speaker 1: His girlfriend.
Speaker 2: His girlfriend's a lot better than him, if you ask me.
Speaker 1: And she's a lot prettier than him too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope he's listening. Yeah, all right, So I
Speaker 2: got to ask you this. Here's your you can look.
Speaker 2: You can see the Hollywood soun.
Speaker 1: That's a cool graphic. I like that. Man, that's great.
Speaker 2: My son does a graphics. He works really hard at them.
Speaker 2: And so the question I had, he picked this banner.
Speaker 2: He does all this research. I think chat GPT gets
Speaker 2: involved in everything. So your banner says this Hollywood and
Speaker 2: signer had four UFO encounters. Now I have to ask you,
Speaker 2: is that? So?
Speaker 1: Have you had four? Absolutely absolutely correct? Plus you didn't
Speaker 1: you didn't mention this. But I recently shaved off that
Speaker 1: rabbinical beard. I guess it's coming back. But the thing
Speaker 1: that your son had that was my rabbinical beard, oh
Speaker 1: once once. I shaved once a year man, and when
Speaker 1: I get hot, But he's coming back. Yeah. I've had
Speaker 1: UFO encounters. Two of them were extraordinarily remarkable, the last
Speaker 1: one was super cool, and one of them was questionable.
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you want I could run through
Speaker 1: the four quickly. Do you want me to do that?
Speaker 2: Yes, and we'll keep the best one for last, even
Speaker 2: if it's not chronological. No, okay, how I do as
Speaker 2: if you never.
Speaker 1: Heard of that, well, let me let me do it chronologically, okay.
Speaker 1: And then the big story that I very much want
Speaker 1: to talk to you is about who my father was,
Speaker 1: right because after my father died, I found out who
Speaker 1: my father was. And that's the key to everything, Martin.
Speaker 1: Everything that I've been doing in disclosure and ufology for
Speaker 1: the last twenty years has to do with my father. So, Okay,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy I was thirteen. I grew up in suburban
Speaker 1: New Jersey. I was in my father's car. He drove
Speaker 1: me home one day from school in the afternoon. As
Speaker 1: we're in the car, me and my dad, a huge
Speaker 1: silver V like V like Vic Hughes silver v Craft
Speaker 1: is suddenly coming and hovering over my father's car in
Speaker 1: suburban New Jersey. No one else was outside. It was
Speaker 1: a beautiful sunny day, and I said, Dad, there's a UFO.
Speaker 1: Stop the car. He stopped the car, We got out,
Speaker 1: We walked in front of the car, and Martin, I
Speaker 1: remember this. I'm jumping up and down. I'm thirteen. I go, Dad,
Speaker 1: look at Star Trek. Dad, It's Star Trek. Look look right,
Speaker 1: Star Trek in nineteen seventy, Star Trek was a new show. Right.
Speaker 1: My father looked at it, Martin bored to tears, no reaction,
Speaker 1: board to tears, couldn't carell us like he'd seen it
Speaker 1: five million times, no reaction, nothing. So after a few minutes,
Speaker 1: now it's looking if now, Martin, if that was you
Speaker 1: and I, man, we'd be dancing, we'd be high fiving,
Speaker 1: we're crying, we'd be enthralled. My father was like it
Speaker 1: was ahead of Lettuce at the supermarket. He couldn't care us. Okay,
Speaker 1: So after two minutes of this remarkable thing, that's just now.
Speaker 1: There's no smoke, no sound, no propellers, no wings, nothing,
Speaker 1: It's just it was the most incongruous thing I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in my entire life. At the end, about two
Speaker 1: three minutes, my father goes, come on, kid, let's go home. Okay,
Speaker 1: we go home. We get in the car, we drive home.
Speaker 1: I remembered more recently that the V followed the car
Speaker 1: for another block or two above us, and then it
Speaker 1: just pulled ahead and went off into the distance very slowly.
Speaker 1: I go home into my house nineteen seventy rotary telephone,
Speaker 1: and I called the Asbury Park Press, my hometown newspaper,
Speaker 1: and I said, Hi, my name is Danny. I'm thirteen.
Speaker 1: I just saw a UFO with my dad in West
Speaker 1: Deal on our street and the lady Martin. The lady
Speaker 1: said to me, Sonny, Sonny, we're getting hundreds of phone
Speaker 1: calls right now. I can't talk to you. I'm very sorry.
Speaker 1: I gotta go. The phones are ringing off the hook.
Speaker 1: I gotta go, and the lady hung up. I remember
Speaker 1: that clear as day. No article ever ran in the paper. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, now, my father and I never ever ever
Speaker 1: spoke about that. Even when we got home. We didn't
Speaker 1: tell my mother or my brothers. I never told my
Speaker 1: friends nothing. Now that's A. That's A and there's a
Speaker 1: much huge piece of the story. That's the b part
Speaker 1: of the story. So that was my first sighting, was
Speaker 1: that's A. The next sighting I had was in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety six, twenty six years later. I'm now living in
Speaker 1: la I had been married, divorced, my ex wife and
Speaker 1: kids moved out to Lancaster, California, when I got divorced,
Speaker 1: near Edward's Air Force Base. So in nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 1: my son was eight. My son, Jordan was eight. I'm
Speaker 1: going to see him this week in Alaska. He's thirty
Speaker 1: seven now. He wanted a telescope for his birthday. So
Speaker 1: I got my telescope. We're in the backyard in Lancaster,
Speaker 1: the High Desert, which is about an hour and a
Speaker 1: half east of Los Angeles northeast. And we saw Mars
Speaker 1: and the moon and you Saturn and you see all
Speaker 1: the cool stuff on it with a telescope, and as
Speaker 1: we were going to put it, I was going to
Speaker 1: go put him to bed, a bright white light Martin
Speaker 1: showed up in the right hand part of the sky,
Speaker 1: bright white light, but egg shaped light, very very bright,
Speaker 1: very high, and it started to streak across the sky,
Speaker 1: very very quickly, in a straight line across the sky.
Speaker 1: And I said, Jordan, look, it's a satellite. Isn't that cool?
Speaker 1: We're seeing your satellite? And then Martin, it stopped. I
Speaker 1: suck at this. It stopped in place. It stopped. Martin
Speaker 1: stopped moving and I said, and I said to my son,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that satellite's going to fall to Earth.
Speaker 1: I thought, for I literally thought it was going to fall.
Speaker 1: It stopped in place for about thirty seconds, and then
Speaker 1: it went all the way backward. It came from in
Speaker 1: the same line, and then it disappeared. Now I don't
Speaker 1: know what that was. Jimmy Church is a friend of mine.
Speaker 1: He said it was probably an experimental UFO from edwards
Speaker 1: it was something like that. It wasn't a meteor comet,
Speaker 1: an airplane or a helicopter. It was either a drone
Speaker 1: or a true UFO or some experimental military craft. That
Speaker 1: was the second one, Okay. The third one, in some
Speaker 1: ways is maybe the most remarkable story. Do you know
Speaker 1: who James Gilliland is? Martin sounds familiar. Have you heard
Speaker 1: of the e SETI ranch?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, yes, yeah, yeah, I've heard the name. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know who he is.
Speaker 1: Okay. In two thousand and seven, I joined so cal Moufon.
Speaker 1: I live in Los Angeles, so I joined so cal
Speaker 1: Moufon just because I thought it might be cool to
Speaker 1: find out about UFOs. My very first so cal Moufon meeting, ever,
Speaker 1: oh seven Giorgio Suklos, two years before Ancient Aliens so
Speaker 1: that was was like seeing the Beatles before they were famous.
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. He gave a nice minute talk
Speaker 1: about ancient astronaut theory, and you know, the crop circles
Speaker 1: and the pyramids and Betty and Barney and Travis Swalton
Speaker 1: and the Nasca lines and the petroglyphs and UFOs and
Speaker 1: Renaissance art and Martin. I was like this, and I'm
Speaker 1: literally and I have tears. I have like tears, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, where has this information been
Speaker 1: my whole life? I never knew any of these things
Speaker 1: at all. And at the end of this thing, I
Speaker 1: went up to Georgio. I hugged him. I said, Georgio, man,
Speaker 1: you just literally changed my view of the whole world.
Speaker 1: I shook his hand. He goes, thanks, man, that's cool.
Speaker 1: Now you're one of us, knows that was cool. Okay.
Speaker 1: A year later, oh eight, so cow Mufon meeting a
Speaker 1: guy named James Gilmeland spoke, he is a cleric. He's
Speaker 1: like he looks like At the time, he looked like
Speaker 1: blonde Jesus. He looked like Jesus with long blonde hair
Speaker 1: and the mustache, wearing like these flowing robes with beads.
Speaker 1: He looked like a hippie Jesus if Jesus was a
Speaker 1: blonde man. And he showed remarkably clear, incredible videos and
Speaker 1: home movies of the UFOs that are always above his
Speaker 1: property in upstate in Washington State, Washington State, at the
Speaker 1: base of Mount Adams. It's called the e SETI Ranch.
Speaker 1: E C E T I right. And he spoke and
Speaker 1: he showed these incredible movies. And I said to the
Speaker 1: girlfriend I had with me at the time, her name
Speaker 1: was Barbara. At the meeting, I said, because he had
Speaker 1: he goes, everyone come to my open house fourth of
Speaker 1: July weekend, two thousand and eight, three days and nights,
Speaker 1: We're gonna look at UFOs. I said to my girlfriend,
Speaker 1: I said, please, can we go? Please go? I want
Speaker 1: to see UFOs. Please can we go? I badgered her
Speaker 1: to go with me. We slept out to Washington State.
Speaker 1: We stayed at a bed and breakfast and for three
Speaker 1: days and three nights in a row in a July
Speaker 1: eight we during the afternoons, he had a big white
Speaker 1: tent on his property. He had about two hundred acres
Speaker 1: of nothing, just nothing. He has a little log cabin
Speaker 1: where he lives, and then there's nothing, and then there's
Speaker 1: Mount Adams in the distance. Mount Adams is one mountain
Speaker 1: south of Mount Rainier, Saint Chain. Mount Rainier was Kenneth Arnold.
Speaker 1: That's where Kenneth Arnold saw his nine in June forty seven. Okay,
Speaker 1: so for three days James Gilliland had a white tent
Speaker 1: on his property and he had about two hundred people,
Speaker 1: including me and this girlfriend. And he had people like
Speaker 1: Nick Pope and William Henry and I don't know, Dolan
Speaker 1: might have been. I don't remember exactly. But they had
Speaker 1: guest speakers under the tent. They showed films and slides
Speaker 1: and had lunch and it was very cool. And at
Speaker 1: night they made a bonfire on the property and men
Speaker 1: and women were singing and dancing, playing guitars and tambourines,
Speaker 1: dancing around this fire and at night with SkyWatch crystal
Speaker 1: clear night, the stars magnificent. There's no smog in Washington
Speaker 1: State and magnificent. So we looked up and at the
Speaker 1: time remember those vhs, the whole movie cameras, the heavy
Speaker 1: ones where they the cassette like the whole casset. So
Speaker 1: I have that on my shoulder and I'm looking up.
Speaker 1: So the first night's Friday, and I'm looking up and
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, come on, you can do it.
Speaker 1: I want to see you if I want to see
Speaker 1: if you come on, I want to do absolutely nothing. Right,
Speaker 1: We're looking up for like I don't know, four or
Speaker 1: five hours, and you know, your neck, your you know this,
Speaker 1: your neck really hurts after about four hours. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was the first night. Okay. The next day, Saturday, White
Speaker 1: Tent Lectures Film Seminars in the afternoon, the fire dancing singing,
Speaker 1: looking up at the sky Saturday night with my super
Speaker 1: heavy thing camera, hours and hours and hours. Absolutely nothing
Speaker 1: is happening. And I'm like, I'm getting so bummed, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, what how disappointing can this be?
Speaker 1: The next day was the last day of this open
Speaker 1: house event, White Tent Lectures Film Seminars, Fire Dancing singing,
Speaker 1: looking up at the sky with my head my camera. Now,
Speaker 1: after about two hours Martin on that last night, about
Speaker 1: two hours, I put the camp I swear this is
Speaker 1: all true. I put the camera on the ground. Nothing
Speaker 1: is happening. I pull out my car keys from my
Speaker 1: pants and I said to my girlfriend I said, Barbara,
Speaker 1: if we leave right now, we can beat the rush
Speaker 1: and I'll beat all these cars and get back to
Speaker 1: the hotel. And I'm again, this is true. Man. When
Speaker 1: I said those words, Martin, a huge black craft came
Speaker 1: from behind all of us, hovered over us, two hundred
Speaker 1: people on the ground by the fire, blocked out the
Speaker 1: sky okay, and stopped. Now I look up and said,
Speaker 1: I said out loud to my girlfriend, I said, what
Speaker 1: the hell is that thing? I thought it was a hoax.
Speaker 1: I thought someone had some kind of remote control, like
Speaker 1: you know, there's remote control helico with the little I
Speaker 1: thought it was some kind of Hollywood special it was.
Speaker 1: It was enormous. I thought it was Hollywood special effects.
Speaker 1: I thought some they were pulling my leg. They were
Speaker 1: trying to say, yeah, yeah, we have aliens here. Okay,
Speaker 1: So it stopped, and now my heart's starting to beat fast,
Speaker 1: and I'm getting a little nervous, and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the hell. I really didn't know what is this? Underneath
Speaker 1: this craft suddenly lit up a huge glass. It looked
Speaker 1: like a glass crystal bulb, like a chandelier bulb, but
Speaker 1: it was huge. It lit up dark emerald green in
Speaker 1: the dark emerald green light contained within this glass bulb.
Speaker 1: It went buz and then it turned on and it
Speaker 1: was like the Wizard of Oz green and I looked up.
Speaker 1: Now I'm starting to shake. I'm like okay. And then
Speaker 1: that light beamed down over two hundred people like this
Speaker 1: light light light light light lie Lie light light lie
Speaker 1: Lie like Morse. It was like Morse code.
Speaker 2: You're doing almost like the Close Encounters of the Third
Speaker 2: time music.
Speaker 1: What wasn't There was no okay, so there was no
Speaker 1: sound okay, But but here's an announce, you know, like
Speaker 1: in every Spielberg movie when they look up and there
Speaker 1: everyone's bathed in the white light, right white light. So
Speaker 1: he's white and Spielberg, we were bathed in amber green
Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz colored light. So I look around, we're
Speaker 1: all looking up and we're all being bathed in this
Speaker 1: beautiful light. Here's what happened. I got a message from
Speaker 1: the light. Not in my ears or my brain. I
Speaker 1: got it in my heart. I got a message, honest
Speaker 1: to God, in my heart. And the message was, hello,
Speaker 1: we're here, We're sorry, we're late. We know you've been
Speaker 1: waiting for us. We got delayed. Everything is fine, we
Speaker 1: love you. We love mankind, because to one another, be
Speaker 1: kind to planet Earth. We'll see you again another time.
Speaker 1: We have to go now, but we just wanted to
Speaker 1: say hello and tell you that we loved you. Okay,
Speaker 1: And then the light retracted back into the bulb. The
Speaker 1: bulb went dark, and now Martin, the craft slowly pulled away,
Speaker 1: pulled away, and then bang zoom, and it vanished over
Speaker 1: Mount Adams. Well, I cried. Now I'm crying, and people
Speaker 1: were all crying. It's like, okay, well, I guess we're
Speaker 1: not alone. Because that wasn't a Chinese weather balloon, and
Speaker 1: that wasn't an army drone man. That was them. I
Speaker 1: know it was them, and because they gave me a
Speaker 1: telepathic message and it was in my heart, not even
Speaker 1: in my years.
Speaker 2: What about everyone else? First of all, did the camera
Speaker 2: stay on the ground?
Speaker 1: The cam? Of course, of course the camera was on
Speaker 1: the ground. Why would I I was schlepping it all
Speaker 1: those days, and when I needed it it was on
Speaker 1: the ground turned off of course.
Speaker 2: But for another question, okay, besides what did other people?
Speaker 2: Did other people hear the message? And did anyone else
Speaker 2: film it?
Speaker 1: Okay? So people have asked me that. I don't even
Speaker 1: remember getting home after that night. I remember people looking
Speaker 1: we were all looking at each other and many of
Speaker 1: us were crying and many of us were hugging. But
Speaker 1: then James Gilli and kind of sat out and said, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, it's midnight. You know you all got
Speaker 1: to go. So we all got in our cars, and
Speaker 1: I mean it was like it was like, Okay, you
Speaker 1: saw the show, It's time to go. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't even remember talking to my girlfriend about it. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just not there. I don't have that
Speaker 1: in my head. But for me personally, and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, that message made me a kinder, gentler person
Speaker 1: I've been I've been I've been a nicer person since
Speaker 1: that I got that message. Wow, that was the third one. Okay,
Speaker 1: the fourth one is a very quick story, and then
Speaker 1: I'm going to get the part B of the original,
Speaker 1: which is my whole thing. My fourth uh was last
Speaker 1: year at Contact in Desert, the last night of Contact
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, they had a CE five event. The
Speaker 1: leader of the event was this guy from Australia. It
Speaker 1: wasn't Ross Culture. I don't remember his name, and we
Speaker 1: had a bat again, about two hundred people. You know, Martin,
Speaker 1: did you go to Chris Bledsoe's thing this year?
Speaker 2: I did not? And it.
Speaker 1: Now, well, you know where that grass is by the pools,
Speaker 1: to the left of the pool there's a yeah, grassy areas.
Speaker 1: It's behind the annex building right, Okay, yes, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a big, big lin there with beautiful palm trees. Okay.
Speaker 1: So twenty twenty four, the last night CE five two
Speaker 1: hundred people, this guy from Australia with the microphone. We're
Speaker 1: all in a big circle, were standing holding hands. Two
Speaker 1: hundred people holding hands in a circle. Crystal clear, beautiful
Speaker 1: palm spring summer weather. Couldn't have been nicer, full moon,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And this guy like, oh, space, brothers,
Speaker 1: we love you, we want to see you, we want
Speaker 1: to commune with you. Please show yourselves, please come down.
Speaker 1: We know you're there. We have open hearts and open minds.
Speaker 1: We want to meet you. Please land. We want to
Speaker 1: welcome you. We want to welcome you with open oides.
Speaker 1: And this guy's doing this for quite well, so for
Speaker 1: quite a while. This started at eight o'clock at night,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking this is very, very cool. Everyone here
Speaker 1: is in the same page where we all want to
Speaker 1: experience something. It's really quite lovely, right. That's at eight.
Speaker 1: By ten o'clock Martin, I'm like, what the hell, man,
Speaker 1: I'm getting tired. I don't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 1: So then the guy goes, Okay, you're probably tired. Lay
Speaker 1: on the grass. Everyone lay on the grass, look up
Speaker 1: and just send good vibrations up into the sky and
Speaker 1: maybe they'll show up. I said, okay, fine. So now
Speaker 1: it's ten thirty. I'm laying on the grass. And again
Speaker 1: I swear this is a true story. I'm laying on
Speaker 1: the grass. I look at my watch, it's ten thirty.
Speaker 1: Be at it. I had to wake up next morning
Speaker 1: at like a four thirty am for something. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: and I said to myself. I swear to guys, said
Speaker 1: to myself, if i don't see a UFO in the
Speaker 1: next five minutes, I'm going to sleep because the hotel
Speaker 1: is right behind the pool. I believe this one or not.
Speaker 1: Many people don't believe this. I swear to God on
Speaker 1: my daughter's life, this is a true story. When I
Speaker 1: said to myself, five minutes, I'm gone in the sky
Speaker 1: above us. Bang. Bang. There was like a medium bang.
Speaker 1: I look up a very dark gray cloud. I'm going
Speaker 1: to say four hundred feet above us appeared a dark
Speaker 1: gray cloud just appeared. Out of this cloud, Martin came
Speaker 1: a craft. The craft was a V, a medium small V.
Speaker 1: It was almost it was fairly small. It came out
Speaker 1: very slowly, bright white color looked like vanilla ice cream
Speaker 1: with rounded tips. It was a V with rounded tips.
Speaker 1: Within the white color was a ribbon of gold caramel color.
Speaker 1: It looked like vanilla caramel ice cream to me. And
Speaker 1: here's the killer part of this story. Underneath each wing,
Speaker 1: you know, there's two wings for a V. Underneath each
Speaker 1: of the two wings were three one two three one
Speaker 1: two three octopus suction pods that were lit up translucent,
Speaker 1: clear brown with veins, and they were all doing this
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom boom boom boom bom. They looked
Speaker 1: like they had heartbeats. They were pulsing. And it went
Speaker 1: slowly and I said to the guy next to me,
Speaker 1: I said, whatever that thing is, it's alive. And then
Speaker 1: it slowly went away up ten twelve fifteen seconds at
Speaker 1: the most, and then it just vanished. It was alive,
Speaker 1: and this guy next to me. We hugged each other
Speaker 1: and then we went to there tell and everyone went
Speaker 1: to sleep. That was the fourth one. I cannot figure
Speaker 1: out what the hell that one was. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: And how many were there? Stole a lot of people
Speaker 2: there witnessing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what. For whatever reason,
Speaker 1: either I'm the dumbest bin on the planet because I
Speaker 1: didn't think to talk to any I just went on.
Speaker 1: I just went I was enthralled. I'll be honest, I
Speaker 1: was enthralled and elated. I didn't cry that the last one,
Speaker 1: but I felt high, like I felt a happy high.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, I just saw my fourth UF Oh
Speaker 1: how cool. Wow. And it was at a C five event,
Speaker 1: which is pretty cool now looking back in time, Martin.
Speaker 1: When I was at Gilli's ranch in eight we were
Speaker 1: doing the CE five. It just wasn't called that then.
Speaker 1: We were looking up and hoping and waiting, and that's
Speaker 1: before the term CE five I think was coined. Those
Speaker 1: are my four stories about sightings.
Speaker 2: I know, are you going to talk about your your
Speaker 2: dad next book? Before you do that, I just wanted
Speaker 2: to bring this in right here. This is Steve Rodford.
Speaker 2: He is the drummer for the Zombies, and of course
Speaker 2: you know, he was a replacement drummer, but he's been
Speaker 2: with them for many years. And I was on a
Speaker 2: music cruise getting coffee and I turned I looked in
Speaker 2: there he was, and so I told him. You know,
Speaker 2: he asked what I did. I said, well, I'm a
Speaker 2: fine art antiqua appraiser. And then the more we talked,
Speaker 2: I said I also do something a little different. I
Speaker 2: do a show on UFOs. And he goes, my god,
Speaker 2: I was meant to see you, and I said why,
Speaker 2: He says, last night. He says, I've told everyone in
Speaker 2: the band what happened last night. They're in the upper
Speaker 2: deck of the cruise ship and he was out there
Speaker 2: on the deck and by basically by himself. It's like
Speaker 2: a private deck. And he said he saw this satellite
Speaker 2: come down, just like you were talking about. He said,
Speaker 2: he saw like it looked like it was moving, but
Speaker 2: then it started looking like it was coming down, and
Speaker 2: it came down. He said, all of a sudden, it stopped.
Speaker 2: And he says, and then it went off on a
Speaker 2: zag and then off and he says, I said, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was that was not a satellite.
Speaker 1: Not a satellite, definitely not a satellite.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So he was actually going to be on
Speaker 2: the show. I'm still in touch with him now, and
Speaker 2: then every few months he'll write me or I'll write him,
Speaker 2: and you know, he's he wants to be on the
Speaker 2: show eventually and talk about his encounter. But you know,
Speaker 2: it happens a lot on cruise ships, and I guess
Speaker 2: it happens a lot with drummers, as you are a drummer.
Speaker 1: I am a drummer. I am a drummer. Okay, so
Speaker 1: let me now explain how I got to where I
Speaker 1: am now today. Yeah, okay, So going back in time,
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventy siding that I had with my father,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy, I forgot that that happened entirely for forty
Speaker 1: seven years. Okay. I didn't think about it. I didn't
Speaker 1: recall it. I didn't tell others about it. It was
Speaker 1: like bury buried for whatever reason, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I was never discussed ever once in my whole life.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 1: Okay, forty seven years later, what happened? My father died.
Speaker 1: My father died in April twenty seventeen, in Florida with
Speaker 1: his second wife. He had a horrible, horrible death. I
Speaker 1: said goodbye to him a few months before he passed
Speaker 1: my brother and I okay, so now I'm in La.
Speaker 1: My father's dead. I was very upset. And again, some
Speaker 1: of you won't believe this. I've told this story probably
Speaker 1: two hundred times all over the world. It's I swear
Speaker 1: to God, this is a true story. Three days after
Speaker 1: my father died, I went to a deli in La
Speaker 1: near Ucla to get a pastrami sandwich in honor of
Speaker 1: my father, because he loved the pastrami sandwiches there, and
Speaker 1: to think about my dad and to be sad. That
Speaker 1: was my goal for that day, was to get a
Speaker 1: sandwich and mourn my father. I'm at the Delhi, I
Speaker 1: ordered the sandwich. The waiter walks away. I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: thinking about my father. A beam of energy, light or
Speaker 1: something remarkable came shooting through the air and hit me
Speaker 1: in the head like a knuckle sandwich of a person's fist.
Speaker 1: It was like bang, really hard, bang, invisible and then
Speaker 1: projected out through my eyes and my brain in the
Speaker 1: air in front of my face, eight inches in front
Speaker 1: of my face, as God is my witness. This is
Speaker 1: a true story. I saw a whole movie color hologram
Speaker 1: three D home movie with audio of the nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: UFO sighting I had with my father from forty seven
Speaker 1: years earlier. It played, It played in the air. It
Speaker 1: was perfectly rectangular, it was high depth. In the flu
Speaker 1: video is my father's car, me jumping up and down,
Speaker 1: my dad and the v It looked like God had
Speaker 1: been like cecil be the mill like go. I was
Speaker 1: the cameraman and had been standing like in front of
Speaker 1: the car filming this. I see this, Martin, I'm shaking.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell? I remember that? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I remember that. I'm watching it play in the air,
Speaker 1: And this time I saw something. My dad when he
Speaker 1: looked at me and said, come on kid, let's go home.
Speaker 1: He winked at me. My dad looked down at me,
Speaker 1: winked at me. He said, let's go home. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: going to say twenty thirty seconds this thing played and
Speaker 1: then it just epixelated into dust. It went away nothing
Speaker 1: right after that. I'm Claire audiit. I've been Claire Audio
Speaker 1: in my whole life. Every ten years I get a
Speaker 1: message in my writ ear I right after the movie
Speaker 1: went away, I heard a man's voice say to me,
Speaker 1: in this year, get a pen, Get a pen. Get
Speaker 1: a pen. Get a pen. You need a pen, You
Speaker 1: need a pen. Get a pen. I asked the waiter
Speaker 1: for a pen. I put it in my right hand.
Speaker 1: I did automatic writing. I've never done it before or since.
Speaker 1: On the table in front of me on the deli
Speaker 1: was a paper placement. My hand wrote the following three things.
Speaker 1: My hand wrote, I'm watching my hand move. Write a
Speaker 1: book about benevolent aliens. Lead character's father knew about UFOs.
Speaker 1: And then I wrote capital A, capital T, capital C.
Speaker 1: And then my hand stopped moving. So now I have
Speaker 1: this piece of paper. I'm shaking, and I'm thinking, what
Speaker 1: the hell is happening. I'm just one of Pastromi's. I'm
Speaker 1: starving to death. Where's my sandwich? And I get this
Speaker 1: message write a book about benevolent anyway, I go, Well,
Speaker 1: I guess I have to write a book. Lead character's
Speaker 1: father knew about UFOs Martin. My father had just died.
Speaker 1: It just died ATC all capitals. I looked and looked
Speaker 1: and looked for ten minutes, and I came up with
Speaker 1: my book after they get This book was given to
Speaker 1: me out of Delhi three days after my father died
Speaker 1: from above. I think my father gave me this book
Speaker 1: from heaven or ET's gave it to me from Mars
Speaker 1: or wherever they're from. This book was literally given to
Speaker 1: me as a gift from above. It was because it
Speaker 1: was I'm just saying it's stating effect now now the
Speaker 1: killer of all of this. Who was my father? Okay,
Speaker 1: So when my father died in April twenty seventeen, oh
Speaker 1: so I ate my sandwich, I raced home, and then
Speaker 1: I wrote the book. It took me a year to
Speaker 1: write twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. It took me a year
Speaker 1: to write it as I was writing. It's about two
Speaker 1: benevolent aliens, a man and a woman, beautiful seven foot
Speaker 1: tall play Idians. Man and woman. They come to Earth
Speaker 1: in the near future. They save mankind. They solve all
Speaker 1: of our problems, and they work through the schrucky guy
Speaker 1: on page one, who's drowning himself on his seventieth birthday
Speaker 1: because he's suicidal and doesn't want to be alive. So
Speaker 1: that's the in a nutshell you should read the book. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's on audiobook. Just came out on audiobook. All your
Speaker 1: people over there in the comments, please check it out.
Speaker 1: After they came audiobook, it's on Amazon. Okay, who is
Speaker 1: my father? So I go home? Now I knew my
Speaker 1: father worked for the US Army for forty five years,
Speaker 1: top secret work. He was a physicist and an electronics engineer.
Speaker 1: And we knew that my father was involved with guided
Speaker 1: missiles and radar systems. That's all we ever knew. We
Speaker 1: never knew any specifics about any of those things. So
Speaker 1: after the Deli sandwich happened, I called my mother. My
Speaker 1: mother was still alive. My mother, God bless her, turns
Speaker 1: ninety one in October. I go, mom, all the years
Speaker 1: you were with dad, did he ever mention UFOs? And
Speaker 1: my mother told me Martins. My mother told me a
Speaker 1: story I'd never heard before. She said, in the early sixties,
Speaker 1: they took your father deep into the vault at Fort
Speaker 1: Mammoth Army Base. It was in New Jersey, Fort Mahmatomery Base,
Speaker 1: and they showed him something in the vault, highly highly
Speaker 1: top secret. My father came home from work that night.
Speaker 1: He was pale and shaking and nervous and very upset.
Speaker 1: My mother said to him, honey, what's wrong. My father said,
Speaker 1: I saw something today that's above top secret. I can
Speaker 1: never tell you or anyone about it as long as
Speaker 1: I live. My father walked down the hall to the bedroom.
Speaker 1: My mother said, your father was never the same after
Speaker 1: that day. Okay, now, those of you who know that
Speaker 1: Jackie Gleese and Richard Nixon story, Yes, Jackie Gleeson's wife,
Speaker 1: Marilyn said, Jackie Gleeson was never the same after that day.
Speaker 1: What does that sound like. It sounds like my father
Speaker 1: saw a craft, or a chunk of technology, or an
Speaker 1: alien living or an alien dead. I believe he saw
Speaker 1: a piece of technology. Okay, that's number one, number two.
Speaker 1: A few days after my my father died, I found
Speaker 1: this in a scrap book that I had from nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty five that my father had given me. I had
Speaker 1: never read this before in my life. This is a
Speaker 1: profile of my father from his workplace from nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 1: My father invented laser guided drones for the army. He
Speaker 1: tested the first one of its kind ever in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy five at White Sands Missile Testing Range, and this
Speaker 1: drone destroyed a tank that was on the ground. This
Speaker 1: is in writing in my hand right here. My father
Speaker 1: invented drones for the army. Okay, nobody knew that. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. M Okay. Next thing, I happened to
Speaker 1: be reading Richard Dolan's book UFOs in the National Security
Speaker 1: State when I was writing my book After They Give.
Speaker 1: In the back of this book is a glossary of
Speaker 1: UFO military UFO sightings above military bases from nineteen forties,
Speaker 1: I think through the nineteen nineties. In nineteen fifty one
Speaker 1: and nineteen fifty two, there were very prominent UFO sightings
Speaker 1: above Fort Mommoth, New Jersey, right when my father had
Speaker 1: started working there. They had happened just a few months
Speaker 1: after he started to work there, and my father worked
Speaker 1: in the radar branch division, the radar branch, so my
Speaker 1: father either saw them on radar or heard about them,
Speaker 1: or saw them with his own eyes. He had to
Speaker 1: have heard about them. The second one of these events
Speaker 1: triggered a Project Blue book. Okay, so that's that part. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now it gets even better. I recently read this book
Speaker 1: called Fort Mammoth, the US Army's House of magic. In
Speaker 1: this book Fort Mommoth's radar branch, where my father worked
Speaker 1: for forty five years. They invented radar, walkie talkies, night
Speaker 1: vision goggles, FM radio, air to ground radio, drones, a
Speaker 1: million other things that I'm forgetting right now. Four thousand patents,
Speaker 1: weather satellites and TV satellites were invented where my father
Speaker 1: worked for forty five years. I didn't know much of that.
Speaker 1: And at four thousand patents were given to Fort Mommouth's
Speaker 1: Army base, the division where my father worked. Okay, next
Speaker 1: to two more little blurbs. In twenty twenty three, Stephen
Speaker 1: Greer gave a press conference from Washington, d C. It
Speaker 1: was on live TV. I watched it live. Part of
Speaker 1: his press conference, Martin, he showed a huge chart of
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five US military bases that Greer
Speaker 1: had proof of through his whistleblower network that worked on
Speaker 1: reverse engineering of recovered UFO technology. One hundred and forty
Speaker 1: five bases. I frees framed my big TV. You know
Speaker 1: we all have a big TV now. I freees framed that.
Speaker 1: I got up. I went with my finger number fifty
Speaker 1: one on Greer's chart. Fort Mammoth, New Jersey. So this
Speaker 1: was through his whistleblowers had told him that Fort Mommoth
Speaker 1: worked on recovered UFOs. The last clue, last clue is this.
Speaker 1: I just read this recently, Joe McCarthy Fort Mommoth in
Speaker 1: the Deep State. In this book which I just read,
Speaker 1: it says that Fort Mammoth was involved with the Air
Speaker 1: Force on Project Blue Book. Okay, so now we put
Speaker 1: all the clues together. The reason my dad didn't react
Speaker 1: when he and I saw that UFO together he knew
Speaker 1: what it was. My father knew what it was. He'd
Speaker 1: probably seen it at White Sands or was involved with it,
Speaker 1: or if it was a man made drone using etc. Technology.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, I know that my father knew what
Speaker 1: it was. And three days after he died, when I
Speaker 1: got that home movie at the Delhi, I think that
Speaker 1: it was my father from heaven sent me that movie
Speaker 1: and said to me, Danny, remember the UFO we saw
Speaker 1: fifty years ago. I knew what that was, and I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you because of my NDA's I'm dead now
Speaker 1: and I wanted you to know, and I swear to
Speaker 1: you aren't. And I believe it was a gift from
Speaker 1: my father from the other side.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is quite a story, I know. And so
Speaker 2: you said your your dad passed away in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
Speaker 2: So did you ever get a chance to talk to
Speaker 2: him about your interest in UFO since nineteen nineties?
Speaker 1: That's such a great question. A couple of times I
Speaker 1: asked him, Hey, Dad, have you ever seen the UFO
Speaker 1: or do you ever think that there were? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know about that stuff.
Speaker 1: Tiki he and he'd walk away real fast, like getting
Speaker 1: like a nervous laugh. I wish all right. So the
Speaker 1: last three years of his life he had severe Alzheimer's.
Speaker 1: He didn't even know who he was, so I couldn't
Speaker 1: have asked him at the end when I was more
Speaker 1: into the UFO stuff. But no, the answer is, my
Speaker 1: dad never gave me a straight answer while he was alive.
Speaker 1: I don't think he told anyone. I don't think he
Speaker 1: told his I know he didn't tell my mother me
Speaker 1: or my brother's and I don't think he told his
Speaker 1: second wife either. I just don't think he told because
Speaker 1: in those days, right, my dad man Martin. Once my
Speaker 1: dad was like in his forties, he's like twenty five
Speaker 1: more years, I get my pension. I get my pension
Speaker 1: fifteen more years and I'm going to get my pension.
Speaker 1: My father wasn't going to blow his pension. I'm telling
Speaker 1: my mother or me about UFO's and aliens. He wasn't
Speaker 1: going to do it. So that's what happened.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people like for instance, you
Speaker 2: know Ben Hansen, you know, talks about his grandfather, right.
Speaker 2: I saw at the very last, you know, when he
Speaker 2: was on his deathbed, basically told I.
Speaker 1: Wish my dad had My dad didn't know his own
Speaker 1: name on his deathbed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sad that happens, I know.
Speaker 1: But but listen, somebody gave me that little movie Delhi.
Speaker 1: I mean, I it was either ets God himself or
Speaker 1: my father. I choose it my father. I think my
Speaker 1: father gave me a message. My father spoke to me
Speaker 1: a few times s Martin after that after his death.
Speaker 1: He actually spoke to me a sentence after he died.
Speaker 1: And then once he came in my room turned my
Speaker 1: lightside and off, and another time he came in my
Speaker 1: room and played my drums weeks and weeks after he
Speaker 1: had died. So my father was at presence from the
Speaker 1: other side. I know he was.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people may listen to this
Speaker 2: and say, you know, that's BS, But I do have
Speaker 2: to tell me, you know, I do have to tell
Speaker 2: you that, you know, I had something happened. I was
Speaker 2: extremely close close to my grandmother and I had something happen.
Speaker 2: I don't I can't say for sure that it was her,
Speaker 2: but it was her, you know, in my mind. And
Speaker 2: you know it was basically in a dream, and everything
Speaker 2: that was in the dream was that really did happen
Speaker 2: was something that you couldn't explain. So I have no
Speaker 2: idea what these things are, if it's an energy or
Speaker 2: whatever it is. But you know, I'm not I don't
Speaker 2: discount something like that. The bizarre thing is the movie
Speaker 2: you're talking about that is I can't even imagine. Even
Speaker 2: though you're explaining what it is what happened, I can't.
Speaker 2: I still can't picture what you're it was.
Speaker 1: It was the most it was other than my children
Speaker 1: being born. It was the most remarkable moment of my
Speaker 1: life because it was a purely supernatural, paranormal moment in
Speaker 1: daylight at a deli at noon right a movie ab
Speaker 1: of your life playing in the air. There's no screen here, right,
Speaker 1: there's no there's no and it was being projected through
Speaker 1: my like it was being projected through my brain in
Speaker 1: my eye, like my eyes had become a movie projected.
Speaker 1: And Steve Bassett said to me, Dan, that's the most
Speaker 1: because that's the greatest story I think I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: I go, see, there were no mushrooms on the no
Speaker 2: mushrooms on the Postormi sandwich.
Speaker 1: Whether I'm just teasing you, I've never done jugs in
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: I'm teasing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I spoke pot in high school. Let me
Speaker 1: call it you. Yeah, can we talk about Wow Signal
Speaker 1: before we run out of time?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that because we've got a you know,
Speaker 2: three or four minutes left basically, so yeah, okay, the
Speaker 2: Wow Signal podcast.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Well it's the Wow Signal News website. So
Speaker 1: in March this year, my daughter and I crafted created
Speaker 1: and launched the Wow Signal Dot News. The Wow Signal
Speaker 1: Dot News. It's a global UFO news resource website. We
Speaker 1: get news from all over the world. We post press releases, photos, videos, experiences,
Speaker 1: white papers, guest columns. In fact, Martin, if you ever
Speaker 1: run want to write a guest column. Send it to me,
Speaker 1: I'll run it for you. And we are honing in
Speaker 1: on a million people around the world that are looking
Speaker 1: at this thing. There it is. My daughter created that logo.
Speaker 1: I like it. And every Monday we put new news
Speaker 1: on the homepage, and then every Thursday, my daughter crafts
Speaker 1: the news into a newsletter that goes around the world.
Speaker 1: And at the top, at the bar, at the very top,
Speaker 1: there's a thing that says, subscribe, it's free. Next year,
Speaker 1: we're going to there you go, anyone who's watching right now,
Speaker 1: subscribe it's free. Next year we're going to start charging
Speaker 1: the subscription. But it's become a phenomenon mark and it's
Speaker 1: become huge, and I'm very grateful that I had the
Speaker 1: success I've had with this thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually on the mailing list and I've got
Speaker 2: to look into it at more. But I thought, did
Speaker 2: you not do a podcast too?
Speaker 1: Or do I did? I did? I did all right,
Speaker 1: so real quick. In twenty twenty four, I had a
Speaker 1: podcast on marchi kason X Network called Live from Hollywood
Speaker 1: It's Paranormal Tonight. I did that for one year, then
Speaker 1: guess then the first six months of this year, I
Speaker 1: altered it to be called from Hollywood. It's Paranormal tonight.
Speaker 1: Now I'm taking in a break and I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: I'll give you an exclusive. In January, I'm going to
Speaker 1: launch the HDA Presents The Women of Euthology. It's going
Speaker 1: to be my new podcast in January, the Women of Euthology.
Speaker 1: That's the first the first person on the planet to
Speaker 1: hear that news.
Speaker 2: I think that's great. And I often try to get
Speaker 2: women guests only because of the fact that, you know,
Speaker 2: there are few and far in between exactly, you know,
Speaker 2: And I do have Mindy coming up.
Speaker 1: I just I love Bendy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's wonderful and I'm trying to think of some others.
Speaker 1: You know, she just launched her own show called The Bureau.
Speaker 1: You know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe Bill kg R a radio I think
Speaker 2: he told me that.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, The Bureau. Yeah, Middy's great. I love her.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's been a real fun conversation with Thank you, Dan.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. I really wanted to talk to you
Speaker 1: about my dad because a lot of this I just
Speaker 1: have learned it in the last couple of years. And
Speaker 1: the more I learned about my dad and dig into
Speaker 1: where he worked for it moment they invent thousands and
Speaker 1: thousands of things. FM radio, Martin. They invented FM radio
Speaker 1: where my dad worked, and that later became consumer products.
Speaker 1: So I'm quite sure my dad knew whatever something. He
Speaker 1: knew something about alien technology and used it into his inventions,
Speaker 1: and he took it with it to his grave. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: That's why people like Grush and whoever you are coming
Speaker 1: forward now are heroes. I wish my dad had had
Speaker 1: the courage to do that, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, hey, thanks so much. It's been a
Speaker 2: real pleasure.
Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, thank you man anything.
Speaker 2: Take care, Yeah, all right, everyone, so don't forget. Coming
Speaker 2: up in a couple of days on Thursday, eight pm
Speaker 2: Jennifer Stein. And also next Tuesday is David Schandell on
Speaker 2: Nuke's getting shut down about the same time as Bob
Speaker 2: Sealas had his event. Thanks a lot, and remember to
Speaker 2: keep your eyes to this