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got Lane Allo stepping up to the mic Lane Train.
How the heck are you, Buddy good Man. That's good
to be here, Great to have you. Great to talk
some ball with you today. Let's start off with some
bway you hoops his march madness. Who's getting closer and closer?
This BAYU men's basketball team has been, as we've deemed it,
a little bit of jeckle in. Hide the ups and downs,
the undulations. I know you went out to the call
you went to the Colorado game up to that point,
that was the worst showing. So some people felt going
into ot versus a team that you know you probably
should have beat handily. And then the Bou basketball team said, hey,
you know what, hold my root beer. I showed you
what what we're capable of versus Iowa State. Now I'm
gonna show you what we're really capable of. On the
low end, getting into the dregs of it versus UCF.
It was piss poor. Obviously, there's a number of things
you can criticize, but what team will show up on Saturday?
Do you think give me overall your overall I guess
opinions With this Bou basketball team.
Speaker 4: Going into the season, expectations were so high. I mean,
anytime you bring in the number one high school recruit,
you have very very high expectations.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: And so it's been a huge letdown to have some
of these games where it's like, you know, you pencil
that in on the calendar. It's like, Okay, there's a win,
there's a win.
Speaker 3: There's a win.
Speaker 4: I mean, after that Iowa State game, what there's four
games I guess now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Games left? Yeah, and you're like, oh, this is doable,
Like we could we could win out the rest of
the season. I think Texas Tech is our last game
at home or something like that. Yep, and without JT
Top and it's like, okay, maybe maybe we get four
more wins all of a sudden, Like our conference schedule looks.
Speaker 3: You were very optimistic about that back end.
Speaker 2: You're like, hey, we could win out, we get maybe
even better seeding than a six or five seed.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, but it's it's very difficult to diagnose what's
going on with this team right now. I mean this
last game against UCF, it literally looked like they were
completely disinterested. Like it looks like entirely there are two
different teams from Iowa State to this one, and you
never know, like there might be some stuff going on
in the background that just hasn't made it out or whatever.
I have no idea what the locker room is like
right now, and things like that. But yeah, it is
very apparent that we have no idea what version of
the team's gonna gonna show up.
Speaker 2: Once upon a time, it was a little bit of
a faux pas to a degree to to criticize vocally,
you know, at the at the game or on social media. Players, Right,
these are student athletes. These student athletes, they rep the
y and you know, they're just they're loyal, strong and true.
We need to be loyal, strong and to them. They're
part of the family. And but now with n I
l is it okay to boo a player?
Speaker 3: Is it okay?
Speaker 2: I mean we've always booed coaches for coaches decisions, whether
it's at you know, most more often not the football
fans will boo the coaches and the team at the
at lavel. It's a little less likely at.
Speaker 3: The marriage center. Maybe it's a little bit more intimate,
et cetera.
Speaker 2: But but coaches are more likely to get booed in
the in the uh, the former era, uh than they
are maybe even in the present era. I don't know,
but it seems like buy fans were out and about
ready to boo the team due to their lack of effort.
You noticed one guy in particular was maybe dogging at
all a little bit. Yeah, is it fair to boo
number one? And uh, what do you make of some
of the lack of effort versus you see a well.
Speaker 4: I mean, at some point we got to stop treating
these guys like they're that they're just student athletes. I
mean now in today's age, they're getting paid millions of dollars.
Speaker 3: So these are paid professionals.
Speaker 4: They are for all intents and purposes, they are paid professionals.
It sucks that they're also happened to be eighteen, nineteen,
twenty years old or whatever. Yeah, But at the same time,
like if if you are getting paid to do a
certain job and being paid very handsomely, when we don't
like the result is the result? Right, Like if if
they lose that game, but they play their heart out,
it's like we can still cheer for that. Yeah, but
it's when there is an obvious lack of effort and energy.
And I'm assuming you're referring to Rob as the individual
who was dogging it or whatever you want to say.
He looked different and before before the show, you and
I were talking there might be something else going on there.
We we have no idea. I mean, you hear about
this kind of stuff with athletes all the time, but
he did not look like himself played really well during
that Iowa State game. This game, it was not the
same the same Rob, right and and aj for that
is the same way. I mean, AJ looked like the
number one draft pick a generation versus Iowa State against
against UCF. I don't know if it was the game plan.
I mean, I know he was hunting for those those
fouls and stuff like that. Sure, and they weren't getting called,
which is frustrating. But like overall, the team did not
play well. You did see a couple of guys step
it up, which is which is nice to see the
but yeah, it was. It was. It was painful to
watch and and we're expecting more.
Speaker 3: No doubt about it. Let's transition springball. Key storylines.
Speaker 2: You're a fan, you're a massive fan of this bway
you Cougar football team. What are the key storylines for you?
What's the key storyline for you? And if you go
down to practice with us, Hey, what are you looking at?
Speaker 3: First? Are you sizing up the newcomers? Are you looking
at the defense?
Speaker 2: You're looking at the offense, You're looking at QB two,
RB two, You're looking at the new tight ends, maybe
with Walker lines, Roger Salthleyapaga, because you love twelve personnel?
Speaker 3: What is it.
Speaker 4: A lot of those things that you mentioned. I think
I'm also really interested in what the offensive line is
going to look like. Yeah, you know, you got three
guys coming in three right, three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pockey Fee, now Junior Sia and Zak Yamauchi. So
you have Pockey from Washington, Zach from Stanford, and then
Junior from Utah State.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, and those are guys who I think, as
of right now are probably projected in the two deep.
We saw that last year against Texas Tech. We had
we had a good offensive line, probably one of the
best offensive lines we've had maybe ever, probably top five. However,
we also know that it wasn't good enough, and so
they're bringing in three more guys to kind of reinforce
that that line, and that made the biggest difference against
specifically Texas Tech. We just didn't have the guys there
to compete with the likes of, you know, a very expensive,
albeit and fantastic defensive line of Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: Ye, so and run four or five ones.
Speaker 4: Those guys were, yeah, just absolute animals.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: So that's one thing that I'm really interested in just
seeing how quickly they can they can become a unit. Obviously,
wide receiver is another thing that I'm I'm very interested
in seeing what happens, and I'll lump the tight ends
with them as well. Do we start seeing some more
you know, uh sets with with two tight ends this season?
Which would be very very interesting because we feel like
we haven't had a lot of tight ends that could
be multiple down type tight ends since this last year
with Carson Ryan for a number of years since Isaac
Rex was healthy, and so seeing these two guys who
potentially could be that would be very interesting to see
those two guys on the field. Uh, And that'd be
a really fun offense to watch. But yeah, who's gonna
be that guy who steps up in the wide receiver
room to be that like definitive number one? Because we
don't got that well, that guy wasn't on the team
last year, right, And so who is that gonna be
this year? Is at Kyle Casper? Is it Jojo Phillips?
Is it one of these younger guys. So that's something
that I'm interested in. And then yeah, I'd love to
see Whereon is at with his recovery. Is he gonna
be the same sion A after this? Is it gonna
be one of these stud freshmen that comes in that
that can be RB two. Other than that, like, it'll
be exciting just to see all these these new players
and there's not really that many. But who's gonna be
that guy who takes that next step?
Speaker 2: Definitely some great intriguing storylines is Camp Kalani kicks off
twenty twenty six. My favorite storyline right now what the
defense is looking like under Kelly Papinga and Lewis Clark
and Tomorio Warren.
Speaker 3: Because the one I'm most concerned about is the secondary.
Speaker 2: Okay, how does this secondary transition with the new coaching
staff on the back end? Because you lose j you
lose Gennaro, you lose Gavin. A lot of people don't
talk about Gavin Fowler. He was essentially the assistant coach,
managing day to day operations at the safety room. So
is there going to be a drop off there or
does de Mario and Louis Clark and the crew they
if they take that baton and keep running with it,
let's transition over the NFL combine. Jack Kelly, Okay, had
himself a day.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: What's crazy is well, I knew Jack Kelly was a freak,
and I continue to talk about it over the last
week or so. I told you that he would improve
his draft stock from the combine and at his pro
day because he's a freak athlete, call him juggernaut for
a reath, Jack Kelly at the Juggernaut he can run.
Speaker 3: He ended up running a four five seven.
Speaker 2: I said, if he got into the four fives, he's
going to livate his draft draft stock draft stocks significantly,
and we saw that on display. At two hundred and
forty pounds, he came in a little bit lighter than
what his playing weight was maybe at BYU Lean mean
Friday machine six foot two two forty uh pretty good
arm length, decent sized hands, and UH had a good
ten yards played, good get off, thirty seven inch vertical,
ten to five broad jump, seven to one to two,
three cone, and then a four point one nine twenty
yards shuttle.
Speaker 3: Really good.
Speaker 2: That's tied for first amongst all linebacker and edge players
who tested out yesterday at that four point one nine,
great agility, great side to side, and the three cone
I would have led to see under seven, but still
really good. The fastest three cone was actually Jacob Rodriguez
and he got sub seven seven seconds, which is tremendous
at that height that weight.
Speaker 3: So his relative athletics score. We have had.
Speaker 2: Math Bomb Matt Laddie on the show many times, and
we'll get them on again just to recap the Combines
and the the NFL Pro Days. But his relative athletics
score versus all their linebackers they ever participate at the
combine nine point eighty three rascor out of ten. That,
my friends, between his heightweight and his athleticism, the vertical,
the broad, the forty, his ten yard split, twenty yard.
Speaker 3: Split, that's elite of the elite guys. That that's this
is some of the best.
Speaker 2: Uh this is one of the best ROS scores ever
by any BYU athlete. Other guys that have had really
good ROS scores or guys like Ziggyanza, I think Dandy
Sorenson actually had a really good a really good ROS
score and h And like I said, we'll get math
Bomb mister Platty on the show in the days and
weeks to come. But uh man, yeah, out of this
ranked per math Bombing himself. He tweeted this out yesterday.
This ranked fifty seven out of three and fifteen linebackers
that have participated in Pro Days or the NFL Combine
from nineteen eighty seven to twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: That's an insane number. You're in the you're in the
top sixty all time athletically.
Speaker 2: And now granted, let me I'll give a little bit
of credence here to some of the objective data points
that have how tests have been done.
Speaker 3: Some of these are you know, maybe this is the
forty times maybe.
Speaker 2: More accurate in the modern era than the prior era.
Speaker 3: So going back to like nineteen eighty seven, a lot
of this is hand time.
Speaker 2: But you know, vertical pretty close, broad pretty close, even
the pro the pro agority or the the you know
three code inside of sight, so a lot of it
was handtime leading up to the modern era. Anyway, your
bench press is typically you know, also you know on
point he didn't bench because he had a shoulder surgery.
Right anyway, Jack Kelly elevated his draft stock. How many
rounds is the question. And because he was productive and
we were very productive at BYU for the most part,
stayed healthy and fought through injuries. You know, even after
he dislocates his shoulder, he pops it back in, he
sits out one game and he's back. That shows a
lot of fortitude, mental grit, and that he can play
through injury. You're never fully healthy when you're playing football.
I've never gone through a season where I'm fully healthy.
You'll never go through a season where you're not. They
have some nick Deans, bruises, strange sprayings, all of it.
So when you see this, you know, I think he
he elevated his draft stock, maybe by by two rounds.
I think going into it, he was kind of a
late round maybe fifth, sixth, seventh. I think he's propelled
himself and maybe undrafted free agent. I think he's propelled
himself into a mid round, you know, maybe even Day
two guy, Jack Kelly, congratulations.
Speaker 3: We'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 2: Remember he's out of he's a little bit younger because
he didn't serve a mission. You're not not your traditional
guy coming out of Brigham. So I don't think they're
gonna knock They're not gonna knock him on the age.
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Lane, I think.
Speaker 4: We all knew he was good. I think that this
is very enlightening, right, Yeah, he is. He is very
very good, and I see a huge future form in
the NFL. And linebackers are such an important piece in
the NFL, so it's awesome to see how well he did,
and you know, hopefully he lands on a on a
great team.
Speaker 3: I think you will.
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