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sort of thing, which is like hundreds of thousands of people.
The North Carolina Senate approved to bill to provide local
school districts a tte T little bit of flexibility on
their school calendars, their school year calendar. This issue has
been an issue. It's as long as I've been covering
schools in Charlotte, which goes back to the year two thousand. Okay,
there's this constant fight over the school year calendar. And
I would just point out here again that the problem
is the model, the K twelve gov CO model, And
so because you're trying to create a standard for you know,
millions of people, and you cannot possibly create one that's
going to satisfy everybody, because everybody's lives are different. You know,
like Christy and I are looking to plan a vacation,
and you know, I have different scheduling pressures with this
job than she has with hers, and so you got
to block off different times. And if you want to
go on a vacation, you got to make sure that
you got the time off. And when we go and
we travel up to New York and we go see
family up in New York, both of my sisters up
there are teachers, and so their schedule is different than
the schedule for my brother and his wife. Their kids
are in school in Atlanta, and so when we're all
trying to organize this stuff, their time off is different.
They go back to school later than we do. So
the problem is the model. It's too expansive to take
into account all of these different factors and pressures. And
then you have the tourism industry, right, they want to
make sure that they have the season that they need,
the length that they need, and whatever. So there are
all these different pressures being applied to the lawmakers to
change the schedule. Always has been, and so Senator Burger,
after they pass this bill, Burger said, it's time for
us to put this school calendar debate to rest. Oh, yes, please.
But here's what the school calendar Flexibility Senate Bill seven
fifty four. Here's what the act does. It allows school
districts two options. You get two choices here, all right,
for when to start your school year. It retains the
current school calendar law, which is that you are to
start school no earlier than the Monday closest to August
twenty sixth. The Monday closest to August twenty sixth, Okay,
that's the earliest you can start, and you can't end
it any later than the Friday closest to June eleventh.
And the reason for that is it protects this summer
vacation period. Okay, So that's the existing calendar, So you
can keep that, or there's a new option to begin
no earlier than the Monday closest to August nineteenth and
ending no later than the Friday before the last Monday
in May. So basically, what is it. It's a week. Okay,
it's a week. You could keep the current calendar now,
or you can start a week early, a week earlier
in August. Smell and savor the flexibility. The bill would
implement new compliance measures as well and penalties for school
districts that defy the calendar law because apparently some school
districts have been doing that, they've been doing their own calendars,
and there's been a lot of tut tutting over that.
The Superintendent of public Instruction is now required or would
be under the bill, to report and investigate any violations.
The State Board of Education is then required to direct
the local school board to fix it if they are
found to be not compliant, and then if the local
board doesn't address the violation, then its central office funding
will be withheld until becomes compliant. Also, any person who
lives or owns a business within the local school district
boundary would be able to sue the local school board
if it defies the school calendar law. Opens the door
for litigation that might prompt some compliance. Again, just pointing
out the problem is the model. What else? There's another bill?
Class size. This is a piece from wrl TV. Kindergarten
through third grade class size limits would go away, so
K through three class size caps lifted. This is how
SPIL eighth six. It would also allow up to half
of school teachers to be unlicensed. So first up, the
class sizes. They have been in place in some form
since the founding of the country. No, I'm kidding, it's
only been since twenty eighteen. OK. So just keep that
in mind when you hear people like, oh my god,
I believe we're going backwards and all this. It's twenty eighteen.
They put the cap on in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,
and they stipulate that the schools have to have an
average of only sixteen to eighteen students in K through three.
House Bill eight oh six makes those class size limits
mere suggestions, no longer requirements. Some school leaders have objected
to these limits for the lower grades because they say
it makes it harder to hire teachers in other subjects
and other grade levels because of limited funds and classroom space.
And if you think about it, it does it does
probably require bigger schools, right, if you're going to set
a cap of sixteen students, then you got to build
more classrooms if you end up with one hundred students
versus if you made just bigger class sizes. Right, I mean,
I remember my class sizes were always always mid twenties. Also,
they effectively increase fourth and fifth grade class sizes. Wake
County School Board members have long lamented that they also
require more schools to be built or trailers to be
brought in for classroom expansion. Class size limits were originally
intended to improve student achievement and school preparedness at those
young grade levels, but the research has been mixed as
to whether or not it actually helps. Okay, so there's
that then. House Pilato six also allows schools to hire
unlicensed teachers. Charter schools can do this right now, but
the traditional K twelve schools cannot. Now. It would still
require that at least half of the teachers on staff
have a license at each school. College degrees would be
required for teachers in core subjects math science, social studies,
and language arts which used to be called English. Unlicensed
teachers would need pre service training so they would be
able to know how to identify and educate kids that
have disabilities, how to manage positive student behaviors, effective communication
for de escalating behavior, as well as safe in appropriate
use of seclusion as punishment and restraint in case the
kids getting out of control. So they would get training,
they just don't have the license. Here's the thing too.
If you're not a good communicator, I highly doubt you're
going to be a good teacher. The best teachers I
have ever had were good communicators. They made the material
compelling and interesting and enter. You can have all the
licensing you want, but if you cannot convey the material
to the kids, I don't think you're going to be
a good teacher. I'm not saying all teachers. I'm just
saying I think it's okay if you open it up
for people who don't have the license, right, and then
they can go in. They can see how they do.
You can see how they do, and maybe they're really
good at it, and maybe they're not. If they're not
really good at it, fine, you can get rid of them. Right.
If they are really good at it, awesome, you got
a good teacher now. And don't you. Guys keep saying
that we have this teacher shortage, so we have to
get more teachers, so this would help do that.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Another piece of legislation, House Bill five seventy three and
its companion bill in the Senate twol four, would remove
the requirement that prospective teachers take and pass three different
exams before becoming licensed teachers. These are just a couple
of the bills this session that are aimed at removing
the licensing re requirement and all of the hoops that
you have to jump through in order to become a teacher,
which you know, not too long ago, you didn't need
all of this stuff. You did not need all of
these requirements to become a teacher. And finally, House Bill
fifty six that would require local school boards to publish
detailed explanations of what each school system's central office position
is and how much employees are paid. Some argue that
there are too many administrators. School systems argue that there
are too few. So now we'll we'll get a look,
publish the list and see how much they're being paid,
because the explosion of the administrative bloat is a real thing,
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in Raleigh, The North Carolina House past legislation yesterday allowing
school personnel and teachers to carry firearms on private school
grounds in an effort to bolster school security measures. Okay,
so I go over this again, because people hear this
stuff and sometimes they just like literally their brains shut
down after they hear conceal carry teachers on campus. This
is at private schools, so not the K twelve Gov
co schools. Okay, those are still completely you know, I
should say completely unguarded. They are school resource officers, taxpayer
funded school resource officers. But in the private school setting,
a lot of times the schools aren't very large, and
so they would like to be able to have people
who are armed. And if you have a concealed carry permit,
you should be allowed to conceal carry when you are
at work and you would then become a line of defense.
And for people who have not gone through a concealed
carry process, the concealed carry process is you got to
you submit your application. You if you're in Meckelberg County,
you got to wait like seventeen years for the sheriff
to approve it. No, I'm kidding, it's not that long,
not a little bit short of that. But they run
your background check. They run your name and information through
like the mental health systems to make sure that you
haven't been you know, adjudicated or you know, confined or
something like that. What else, Oh, you have to take
a class. You have to take the eight hour training
class and part of that class is range time. You
actually have to pass the range requirement. You have to
forget what it is I think it's it's like twenty
two out of twenty five you have to hit the
target twenty two out of twenty five times, something like that.
So there is an amount of training that goes into
getting a concealed carry and permit, and so once somebody
decides to do that, go through that process. They then
carry their firearm and they conceal it so you don't
know they have it. And what that does is if
there are and the population of people who conceal carry
is not large that we know of, No, it's single
digit percentages of the population generally, so you're not going
to know who is packing and who is not. And
generally speaking, the people who conceal carry are they commit
far fewer crimes than like every other demographic. They are
the most law abiding popular The very fact that they
went through the process to get the concealed carry permit
rather than just illegally carrying it concealed, tells you these
are people that value following the law right. And so
the private schools have asked for these changes, so staff
have the option. This is not a requirement. You don't
have to carry if you don't want to. If you
are a concealed handgun permit holder and you don't want
to bring it to the workplace, you don't have to either.
No one's forcing you to do it. It's allowing you
to do it if you choose to. Dare I say
it's the pro choice option. This is a particular concern
among Christian schools, which have been targeted in recent years.
The Firearm Law Revisions Bill allows individuals with valid concealed
handgun permits to carry on private school property if the
school allows it and provides written permission. So those are
your requirements. If the school doesn't want the teachers to
carry on campus, then the school can ban it too.
But if the school would like that to occur, then
you would have to get permission in writing from your school.
So this way, if you know they don't want you carrying,
but they want somebody else carrying or whatever, the school
would be able to do that. Representative Keith Kidwell, Republican
from Beaufort, said data shows two million times a year
legally owned guns are used to defend people in the
United States. The bill passed sixty two to forty four
along party lines. Representative Marsha Morey from Durham she's a
Democrat and a former judge, which is amazing. I have
not she said, I have not heard from one private
school teacher saying I'd like to have a gun and
the ability to take one on my school. Do we
really want more guns in our school? Yes, more guns
in the hands of people who are not trained, okay,
Number one, Representative Maury, I would submit that you're not
hearing from private school teachers asking you that because they
know what your politics are on this matter. They know
that you don't want You would ban all the guns
if you could, so they're not going to come to
you and ask you for this. You're also in the minority.
You have no ability to affect outcomes here in the legislature.
You don't have much juice. So of course people aren't
coming to you to lobby for you to help them
conceal carry at their Christian school. Okay, So that's a
ridiculous argument. Just because no one has come to you
personally doesn't mean that people aren't going to lawmakers and
asking for it, Number one. Number two, do we really
want more guns in schools? Yes, that's how you protect
from maniac shooters. Right when a maniac shows up at
the door with a gun. Somebody with a gun is
going to be the reason why that maniac stops shooting.
That's it. That's how those things end. Always somebody else
with a gun stops the maniac. So if my option
is to have one maniac with a gun and nobody
else armed, or have one maniac with a gun going
into a school where potentially three, four or five people
in that school have guns, yeah, I'm choosing that one.
So yes, more guns in the schools, that would be
a solution, absolutely, And I already went over the training
part of that argument.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: The Senate also has a bill that would allow parents, teachers,
or others to serve as volunteer armed guards for schools.
They'd be required to take eight hours of annual training first.
Private schools can already hire. This is, by the way,
only for the private schools. Again, only for private schools.
Private schools can already hire private security, although supporters of
the bill say barely any schools have actually done that.
Many schools are small, with only a couple dozen students,
and so they lack the funding to hire professional security.
Other larger schools would simply rather spend money on different purposes.
Supporters say, and so they rely on volunteers to provide
free security right now. So what they're saying is, we
already have these volunteers that are participating in their child's education.
They're volunteering to act as security for the private school.
We would like for them if they choose to, and
if they go through the process of getting a valid
concealed handgun permit and they would like to carry concealed
while on campus, we would have no problem with that. Again,
all of this is voluntary. And here's the thing too,
This is the beauty of the private model, which is,
if you don't want your kid going to a school
that has an armed security officer, then you don't send
your kid to that school. You get to choose send
them somewhere else where they'll be unprotected. All right, if
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the phones and talk with Joe. Hello, Joe, Welcome to
the show.
Speaker 3: Hey Pete, how you doing that?
Speaker 1: Okay? Right?
Speaker 3: And sunny day, little cloudy, but it's a great day.
I'm enjoying listening to your discussion about the school system
and kids and private school and public school. But I
think one thing we can do to help our society
and help our youth is during their k through twelve
when we'm speaking public school during their K through twelve
matriculation to graduation and come out into society, that they
are required through their physical education to receive martial arts training.
Now they can get up to a fifty they can
become a fifty breed black belt, and maybe that's something
that you require before for them to receive a North
Carolina diploma. And by them going through that training, they're
taught discipline, they're taught the ability to not engage in
bullying behavior, and they have a few more life skills
that would keep them from being victims.
Speaker 1: So all right, The first problem I see with this
idea is that it relies on the assumption that kids
are still actually required to do fizz ed every year.
Speaker 4: I don't think they are.
Speaker 3: I'm in high school and yeah it's a part of
the yeahs. As they sign up for their courses, they
have to have certain hours, and one of the hours
is in physical education.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they don't. But it's my understand Like one
of one of my nephews, he only goes to school
like two days a week.
Speaker 3: Well, he's probably he's probably taken his house of phizz Yeah,
I know, he only has a few court. I know
some students they call him flick students. Yeah, don't one
or two classes left. But yeah, that's because they've already
have the credit hours and the things that they need
for graduation.
Speaker 1: Right, So you would have to actually require physical education
for every single year that they're in school, and there's
no and and the fizz ed actually has to be
fizz ed like when I was in elementary school and
it would rain outside in the wintertime. Also, like we
would have to stay in the gymnasium and for like
one chunk of the time I think, like a like
three or four weeks every gym class was square dancing.
They taught us how to square dance.
Speaker 3: Well, what a great opportunity to have a martial arts yes,
to learn how to protect yourself, yes, and to learn
how to engage with people.
Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea to at the very minimum,
to offer something like that in the schools. My concern
with mandating it for every kid is, right now, there's
like a self selection process because it's not required, So
kids who want to learn this they go and they're
motivated to stick with it and all of that. I
don't know if I want the kids who don't want
to learn it, or the kids who are like who
turn into bad adults. Like, I don't know if I
want highly trained killers coming out of the schools that
are then going to be preying on me when I'm
an old person.
Speaker 3: Well, whether they have a physical skill or something in
their hand, they're still a dangerous person. Right, But it
would be really it would be really interesting. We wouldn't
have we would have less bullying because nobody would know.
Speaker 1: Right. So with that guy, right, Well, you have to
if you're going to a school, well, you know, you
you've got to assume that everybody would know the stuff
that they're trying to teach you too. Although I do
see one potential problem. Maybe the older kids would know more,
they would be better trained and skilled, and so they
may be able to employ those skills for nefarious purposes
with greater efficiency and effectiveness on the younger kids. But
like I know, the martial arts training like it does,
it does create in a lot of people like that
kind of mental discipline and sort of a code where
they don't engage in that kind of behavior exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: And I think all of what we're talking about, and
we talk about violence and schools and things of that nature.
It's an American mindset that's needed, that needs that needs
to change. Our mindset as Americans is so vastly different
than any of the culture on earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure about that, and we need to
I don't know about that. There are some places on
this planet that I mean that that do a whole
bunch of really terrible things to each other on a
regular basis.
Speaker 3: You could probably count them on one hand.
Speaker 1: No, No, I can think of many societies, like, for example,
we don't here here's a good example. When is the
last time you heard of people having arms chopped off
in the streets with machetes, right, or tires lit on
fire and draped over their heads and burned alive, you know,
stuff like that, were stoned to death in the public square,
or flung off of the tops of buildings, stuff like that.
So I'd like, I don't think we are unique in
in in the these these violent.
Speaker 3: Actions, well what were not unique, but but within our
own front door, I think we can work to do.
Speaker 1: Oh well, no doubt about that. Yeah, I agree with that,
no doubt. And yeah, there has to be there has
to be a focus on Uh, the value of life.
I think that's where it starts, is that is that
all life is precious, and you want to make sure
that you're raising people and have a society that values life.
I think that's at the core exactly.
Speaker 3: And getting and getting rid of three ugly words when
they're put together and the words are I don't care.
If we can, if we can teach your young people
to read that language out of out of their their
mind view of not caring, I think we have a better.
Speaker 1: Society is with Joe. I appreciate the call, buddy, thanks
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final segment of the program on Friday, and that means
we pregame with Brett Winterable. He's up right after me
at three o'clock. I will hang over on his show
for a segment he likes to call the hangover and
uh Brett, Welcome, sir.
Speaker 4: It's good to be with you.
Speaker 1: Good glad you're back from your excursion up to the
swamp last week.
Speaker 4: Yes, I was not. I did not get you know, assimilated.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 2: I'm not assimilated in this no swamp fever contrala.
Speaker 4: That no, not really good.
Speaker 1: Meet anybody famous or.
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, game besides you?
Speaker 2: No, no, no no. But we had a whole bunch
of people coming through, so it was right.
Speaker 4: It was. It was good and a lot a lot
of them were the worker.
Speaker 2: Bees, which is an important thing because these people were
definitely working hard to get that messaging out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I don't know if you were just listening.
We were talking. I got a call from a guy
named Joe. You were talking about guns in school and stuff,
and he suggested that we make martial arts a mandatory class.
Yes for K twelve? You like it? Okay, Rob mcga,
I okay, So I don't know if I see. So
here's my concern is that I've seen the documentary Karate Kid,
and I think that I think you could end up
with some with some bad Johnny apples in there. Not really,
and now they're going to be highly trained, yes, but
if they're bad apples like Daniel was that, I.
Speaker 4: Feel Daniel was not a bad apple.
Speaker 1: Oh he he was Daniel. He was the villain of
that story. Wow yeah, wow, we think about it. It's true.
Have you ever seen this yellow car? There's been a
write up on this very thing they put They spliced
it all together.
Speaker 4: If like, so he's the problem.
Speaker 1: Yes, he completely overreacts all the time, like when they're
on the beach and he bashes poor Johnny's radio and stuff.
Speaker 4: But what about Sato? When Sato was that was like
karate Kid for I.
Speaker 1: Think, oh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think I saw how many of them have you seen?
Speaker 1: I think just one? Maybe it is just the first one. No,
I saw the second one where he was doing the kick,
but I saw it come in when he's on the
stump on the beach or whatever, like I saw that
coming because it was the same movie again.
Speaker 2: So, but Kravmagod would be an equalizer. Everybody would would
be trained in the same sort of way.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. If you're in the class like
you and I are in the class together. And let's
say I'm the bully, okay, and I know, like, because
I can see you, because we're in the same class.
I can see if, like, what your skill level is
and whether you're keeping up with my skill level. And
when I know if I'm a bully, I'm gonna know
which kids won't be able to employ the tactics against me,
and so then I can I can go in then
hurt them very easily, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I feel like they're okay. So you got two choices.
Speaker 1: I don't like false choices, and I only get two options.
Speaker 2: Mar martial arts Marshall marsh martial arts where you get
those like burner less than lethal oh uh, ceramic gun
things that you can use if I mean, if suddenly
there's problems.
Speaker 1: So rather than so, the idea the general Assembly is
allow teachers to conceal carry if they choose on campus
at private schools only. And your answer, O answer is
that arm the kids, give all the kids guns. No, no,
let's be called firearms, not firearms, right, whatever the burner
thing I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But if you're not going to let them do martial arts,
you have to have the teacher I would give the
teacher the kinetic weapon that is less than.
Speaker 1: Leath, but a kid with the kraft maga krav magat
would be able to take out that teacher.
Speaker 4: Everybody should be trained in it.
Speaker 1: Are you trained in it? Would you tell me if
you were?
Speaker 4: I would not. Let's see, I would not.
Speaker 1: I figured you would not.
Speaker 4: I would not. I is that rule one?
Speaker 2: Well, you could use whatever martial art you want. Yeah,
judo judo is fine. It's it's it's you know, a
lot of flips and things like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, using inertia and all that. I liked. So and
this is what I told Joe what he called I
like the idea because people who who go down and
get this training and stuff, they they have a much
better mindset about, yes, the use of violent right, because
they understand now fully what it.
Speaker 2: Is the degrees of violence that you can use. And
in addition, we're getting rid of the obesity problem because
people will be in like super tight shape.
Speaker 1: It's one of the things I never really understood was
the overweight karate instructors.
Speaker 2: You don't really see to have many. It's maybe because
they've got there. They've got like multiple belts and they're
you know, they'regither. Eventually you're gonna kind of retire or
be of council as they would say. I am emeritus,
but I do have an you know, remember back in
because you know you and I remember back in the day,
like the Bruce Lee movies.
Speaker 4: And stuff like that, you know Channel nine w R
and and you know it would be like, don't go
near him.
Speaker 2: He can be in two locations at the same time
and has a seventeenth degree black bright.
Speaker 1: And the throwing stars. I thought I was going to
tell you. I thought I was going to be dead
by the age of like sixteen.
Speaker 4: Did you have throwing stars?
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to get killed by either
the throwing stars or quicksand that was it.
Speaker 2: I always I always thought quicksand I actually got stuck
in Quicksand one time, did you really?
Speaker 4: On the West Coast in Venture.
Speaker 2: Adventure California, I stooped went by myself to the beach
and I went and I didn't want to walk the path,
so I went, I cut across and I got down
into Quicksand how quick was it? It's not as quick
as you think, but you quickly get nervous and it
went right up to like my waist.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I had to like basically.
Speaker 1: Crawl out.
Speaker 4: No, but how do use some of my martial arts
to get Oh my god? I levitated at it?
Speaker 1: You levitated at like Bruce Laye.
Speaker 2: No, but I just jumped and threw myself onto like
a sand bank.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then I was like, I'm not going back there anymore.
Speaker 1: Did you like put up some cones or something around it,
warning quicksand? Look, That's what I was always advised too,
that there's always a sign that says warning quick sand I.
Speaker 2: Always thought that quick quicksand was going to be a
much bigger deal. I throwing stars, not not as much
numb jucks, yes, numb jucks Like that was like the
top of the line.
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