Speaker 1: For well, Hello there, and welcome in to a different
version of the Fight Freaks Unite Recap podcast. Because there
wasn't really a meaningful main event, not just in the US,
but worldwide this weekend, we decided to get a little
creative with a couple of different interviews that we're gonna
have that you're going to very much enjoy. By the way,
I'm your somewhat capable host TJ. Reeves. The insider Dan
Rayfiel will be with us in a few moments with
Eric Gomez, an interview that he just had within the
last couple of days off of the Golden Boy Latino
Knights show that took place in Read, Saudi Arabia, part
of the Read season promotions and co promoting with Oscar
de la Hoya's promotion and Eric Gomez is the president
of Golden Boy Promotions. He'll talk about Zerdo Ramirez winning
the Unified Cruiserweight Championship over Chris billm Smith, number one
contender at lightweight, William Zepaida had some problems in a
close fight with Tevin Farmer. Also a couple of other
interesting fights on that card as well. Oscar Duarte with
his victory early on in that card, so some of
the different Golden Boy fighters etc. And there is an
interesting news nugget about Virgil Orties and whether or not
they can make a fight with Jeron Ennis or not.
Obviously this would be Matchroom Golden Boy getting together and
could this be also part of the RIODD season. You're
gonna hear Eric Gomez talk about all of that and
some of what they're looking forward to in the first
part of twenty twenty five that's coming here in a
few minutes. Later on in the program, David Payne, the
boxing writer from the UK, I want his UK perspective
on that card back now eight nine days ago in RIOD,
including Chris Billum Smith in the main event. David will
also have some thoughts on the Jake Paul Mike Tyson card,
more specifically what happened with Katie Taylor and Amanda Serrano
in the co feature fight on that car and then
he'll give us a little preview for later this week
in England. They're obviously interested the fight fans, the fantastic
fanatical British fight fans in this sunny Edwards galu Phi
main event that is coming for flyweight contenders. When these
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let's get into it. Dan's conversation at Linked with Eric
Gomez of Golden Boy and Everything that went on with
read Season and some of their other perspective fights they
have coming up. And then David Payne with me from England,
the boxing writer, with his perspective. Let's do all of
that right now.
Speaker 2: Well, it is my great pleasure to welcome to our
podcast this week my main man who I've known Eric,
I don't know what twenty five years or so. Eric Gomez,
the president of Yeah exactly, the president of Golden Boy Promotions,
off a long trip in the last couple of days
back from Riad, Saudi Arabia, where you and your team
in Oscar and everybody at Golden Boy in Read Season
put on a tremendous card Latino Knights. I want to
talk about that and really just what the goings on.
A very busy it seems like Golden Boy Promotions group
of fighters that are taking care of business. So thank
you for doing the show. Eric, I know you've been
real busy since the trip. How's everything going.
Speaker 3: No problem, It's a pleasure to beyond. Thank you Dan. Good,
everything's good. A little jet lag.
Speaker 4: Still from the trip in Saudi Arabia is a long flight,
but it was very successful.
Speaker 3: I think everybody was happy.
Speaker 4: We got some very very nice comments from the fans.
I think the fights were very competitive.
Speaker 3: Some surprising.
Speaker 2: Yeah, overall it was a big success and first read
season card that was not with a pay producer charge.
Can we see more of that.
Speaker 3: You know, I hope.
Speaker 4: So his Excellency was kind enough to you know, share
it with the world for free, which is refreshing and great.
Speaker 3: For the fighters.
Speaker 4: It's it's amazing because they get that exposure of.
Speaker 3: Being on for free. You know. It just really.
Speaker 4: Depends on what his excellency sees for the future of
boxing and his involvement. But as a fright now where
we're very very excited and aksiule that he was willing
to do that for this is done.
Speaker 2: So I want to ask you about that. How was
it staging your first event in Saudi Arabia. I know
you have been involved in events there, but it's really
the first time that Golden Boy has really spearheaded the fight,
been involved with you know, most of the fire or
all the fights on the card, And I'm curious how
that went. If you could, because you do fights all
over the place, certainly in the United States. Anyway, just
give me like a brief idea of the differences for
you and doing an event here in the United States
or doing one in Saudi Arabia like you did last weekend.
Speaker 3: It was great.
Speaker 4: Look, you know, it was a lot of work. We
had a lot of prep work, you know, like months before.
We started working on everything way back in September, the
beginning of September. It was a big undertaking. We had
to hire the commission, so we hired the ABC, the
Association of Boxing Commissions here in the United States, so
they were the regulators for the event. Mike Wasazuli, who
was the president director.
Speaker 3: Of the ABC. You know, he hired all the officials,
took him out there.
Speaker 4: So we had to coordinate their travel, their rooming obviously,
all the fighters and their teams. You know, it was
a lot of work, a lot of tedious work, a
lot of stuff that normally is so easy for us
to do here in the United States, things like coordinated
training times and taking them to the gyms so they
can get their last training in and then cut weight
if they need to.
Speaker 3: So it was a lot of work.
Speaker 2: It sounds like just an extra layer of stuff compared
to one normal show here.
Speaker 3: It is it is, it is, it's it's just a
little more added attention.
Speaker 4: To the teams, the fighters, and the accommodations. But other
than that, it was it was very much like a
regular show here in the United States.
Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken, it really wasn't the ABC
that regulated. It was the Mike Mizzoulis runs the Mohegan
Tribal Commission from Connecticut, isn't that was?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the title. Yeah, that was the title.
But obviously he's the director of the ABC, so he hired.
Speaker 4: All the different officials, the judges internationally.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, and he did a great job. Mike Zille did
a great job. It was a lot of work for him,
but you know, he got it.
Speaker 3: He got it done.
Speaker 2: So it was as we said, and we'll get into
the fights in a minute. But it was a really,
I thought, an outstanding show. But if there's any downside,
and I'm not knocking it at all, because well, like
I said, a great show, you kind of got swallowed
up in the in the fact that the night before
your show and you started here in the United States,
the card came on at twelve o'clock noon Eastern time,
nine o'clock in the morning Pacific time, and the night
before I think it was still a massive hangover from
what happened in Arlington, Texas with the Jake Paul Mike
Tyson card, which was, you know, took on a life
of its own. Do you feel like maybe your event
got a little swallowed up in that hype?
Speaker 3: You think it was hard to avoid.
Speaker 4: That was a monster show. You know, anything Tyson does
and people are going to pay attention.
Speaker 3: You know, he's iconic. And Jake Paul, look, you know,
I commend him.
Speaker 4: You know, he put together an incredible event with his
MVP promotions. You know, the fight was not as exciting
as most people thought it would be, but it was
a big event, and you know, congratulates extent.
Speaker 3: But yes, it was.
Speaker 4: Hard to avoid, but we still got a lot of attention.
And I think that the fights proved to be very
good fights, competitive fights, and that's what that's what times won.
And we pride ourselves at Golden Boy, you know, and
making competitive fights.
Speaker 3: We try to do that.
Speaker 4: Every single time. You're not always going to do it,
You're not always going to accomplish it. But for the
most part, this event it delivered.
Speaker 2: I agree. So I want to go through some of
the fights with you. The main event, of course, was
Gilberto Zerto Ramirez. He was taken on Chris Billam Smith
in a cruiserweight unification fight. Zerdo came in with the
WBA title, Chris Billam Smith with the WBO title. I
thought it was a fantastic although one sided fight, but
still extremely entertaining. Chris Billen Smith showed the heart of
a line and Zerdo pretty much after round one. I
guess to me, anyway, you tell me what you thought.
You were sitting ringside, kind of figured him out and
just sort of laid a beating on a guy that
just had a tremendous heart and a tremendous chin. And
I thought, honestly, that might have been the best performances
has had in his whole career possibly. What was your
take on the fight?
Speaker 4: My sense was that he finally felt and looked comfortable
at that weight class. Now you remember he's had two
fights at that weight class. The guys are bigger, they're stronger.
For this fight here he looked comfortable. It looks like
he finally said into that weight class. The handspeed, the footwork,
especially the footwork, you know, being invited that used to
be a middleweight, super middleweight champion light heavyweight.
Speaker 3: It seems to be that, you know, he's got quicker.
Speaker 4: Feet than those guys, at least in the last couple
of fights. But yeah, you know, he fought the perfect fight.
You know, he did get hit a few times. He
took some big punches.
Speaker 3: Those always been for having a good chin.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so.
Speaker 4: You know, which which is not always a good quality.
You don't want your fighters to get hit. But he
was able to, you know, take care and win and
convincing decisions.
Speaker 3: And it was an exciting fight. And there's a couple
of times in there where it looked like he might stop.
Speaker 4: And that's a big, strong kid, you know, Chris Billim Smith,
you can't take away from him. I'm sure that he'll
come back and be a champion, you.
Speaker 3: Know, later in his career. He's still pretty young.
Speaker 4: But he was about, you know, the perfect fight in
order to be able to win and be successful.
Speaker 2: So now the question is about the next step for him.
Because to make the match between Zero and U and
Bill and Smith, there was they had a sign off
on on the to to take a you know, the mandatory.
Juniel Dordikos had a step aside and make a deal uh,
and then was promised the next shot.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: So that seems to be what would be up for
Zerdo next? The fight that I know that everybody wants
to see in the weight class, That fight that that
Turkey Alshkas mentioned as a as a fight fan who
likes to make unifications, is to have him fight Jai Opataia.
Seems like it could match up. Zerdo just fought on
a READ card.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: This pass fight. The previous three fights of Opatai have
taken place on READ season cards. It seems like the
obvious fight in the way class. But he also has
a mandatory coming up that will take place in Australia
in January. So the question is he'll take care of
that business? Is the is sort of the not in
in in ink, but in pencil anyway, Opataia fights his
mandatory January, Zerdo comes back his mandatory, say like late winter. Uh,
and then later in the year when READ seasons back
in gear, have them fight in the three belt unification
and also for the ring title.
Speaker 4: That's I mean, that's the preliminary plan, is to take
care of the.
Speaker 3: Mandatory, you know. So that's where we'll start getting to
those discussions because I was taking some time off. He's
well deserved. But yeah, you know, we do.
Speaker 4: Have a mandatory articles that we're gonna have to address,
and that's that's the preliminary plans. To take care of
the mandatory and then see if we can do the unification,
which is a fight that you know would.
Speaker 3: Get the two top fighters in that division.
Speaker 2: Well, that is good news. I think that seems like
a very reasonable plan to let him take care of them.
And by the way, they're mandatory, at least in the
case of Zerdo his mandatory in Dordikos is a former champion.
I can't really say too much about the open time mandatory,
but that seems like a very reasonable plan. But if
you go down one fight on the card, the co feature,
this was a fight Eric that was two top junior
walter waits former champ unified champion Josey Ramirez against the
undfeated Arnold Barbosa, two guys that are somewhat new to
the Golden Boys stable of fighters. On paper, looked like
a really good matchup. Unfortunately, while it was a great
victory for Barbosa, who was looking for this type of
career win, kind of a disappointing especially when compared to
the action of the rest of the car. What was
your thoughts about the Barbosa victory and the performance of
the fight itself.
Speaker 4: You know, very happy for Barbosa. This is a fight
that he wanted. This is the reason he signs with
the Golden Boy. You know, he said, please get me
that fight.
Speaker 3: That's the fight I wanted for the longest time. Uh.
Speaker 4: And the same thing with him. You know, he thought
he fought the perfect fight. It was to cause this fight.
We were expecting a little bit more fireworks, but you know,
he fought the fight that he felt was gonna was
gonna get get him the victory.
Speaker 3: And that's what he did.
Speaker 4: You know, you can't take a fighter like you say,
Ramery's lightly. You know, he's a he's a he's a
respected puncher, and it just seemed like, you know, whenever
he got in position to unload those bombs, Barbosa was gone.
Speaker 3: He was gone.
Speaker 4: And I think that that's what he trained for in camp,
you know, just to fight a smart fight, to stay
out of harm's way and and and win a decision.
And he did that, and he did that and now
you know, two bigger better things with him so.
Speaker 2: The question then becomes he turned down the opportunity to
have it as an eliminator. He explained, I thought quite
eloquently after the fight about having fought a multiple eliminators
and paid sanctioning fees to the WO and was just
tired of it. Franklin wanted to keep the extra money,
as he said, I'm quoting him paraphrasing, anyway, put the
money in my pocket for my kids. But then he said, look,
you know, maybe the WBO would reconsider and still give
me a title shot. How do you think that's gonna
play out? I mean, he is undefeated, he did just
come off a big win over Ramirez. He has been
near the top or at the top of the WA
rating WBO ratings for a while. How do you think
that's gonna play out? What's the WBO's take on what
happened because he didn't pay the fees, didn't do a
twelve rounder.
Speaker 3: Well, it's gonna be up to WO. It's gonna be
up to them what they which win. They want to rule.
Speaker 2: But would you lobby them? I guess on his behalf.
Speaker 4: He's of course, of course, and we had conversations and
they understand the situation, and you know a lot of
that we weren't involved, are both right, right, We weren't.
We weren't involved, But we don't know what happened and
why it happened and why he was passed over.
Speaker 3: But he was upset. He was upset, uh.
Speaker 4: As you as you indicated, you know, he complained himself.
We're hoping that the WBO finds it in their heart
to forgive him and include him and either becoming the
mandatory for field you won't or ordering an interim title
for him.
Speaker 3: We don't know. It's going to be at their discretion.
Speaker 4: I did reach out to the WBO earlier today and
waiting for a call back from him, so we'll people
are going to continue to lobby for him.
Speaker 3: He should get a shot at the title. Well, hope
feel very strong.
Speaker 2: Hopefully that call does not interrupt our interview here. But
as it relates to Ramirez, that was a rough loss
room because he didn't really look that good. I thought
he looked a little bit slow, honestly, I thought he
looked a little disinterested. He's had long layoffs and I
hypothesize and I think Jose is a wonderful guy. If
known him, his entire career covered him a long time,
a charitable guy, a big time in his community. But
he might have kind of gotten comfortable. You know, he
made a lot of money. He's got a beautiful family,
young kids, and not sure how much he really wants
it the way Barbosa did. What's your take on that.
I know you guys haven't worked with Ramirez for that long,
but you're sitting there watching the last couple of fights.
Speaker 4: He said, Well, there's a couple of things I want
to point out. You know, I think he's still hungry.
He worked very hard for this fight. He had a
very good training camp. I think he just got surprised.
I think that he was expecting a different kind of fight.
You know, Barbosa was talking of a good game so
it was Premiers. He thought it was going to be
a little bit more of a toe to toe battle,
and it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Styles make fights. I just think that.
Speaker 4: That style didn't better, it didn't benefit him. The other
thing we have to consider as well, is, you know,
he's a big kid.
Speaker 3: He's almost five to ten. He's a big kid. It
might be time to move to forty seven, right, I
thought that too, you know, you know, so so.
Speaker 4: It takes a lot out of him, you know, and
he stayed around, you know, the lightweight.
Speaker 3: I think he'd be debuted as a lightweight. He just
recently moved up to forty. But even that, you know,
he's just such a big kid when you.
Speaker 2: Meet him and you see him in personal good forty
pretty much most of his career. So I don't know
if that's you know, but that's all the career is
not like he it's like he turned pro yesterday either.
I mean, he's been in a pro for a number
of years, so it's not his first rodeo in the one
hundred and forty pound way class.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 4: It's not, but you know what, it does take it
and as you get older and you're trying to build
muscle and keep that strength, you know, it does depeat
you coming.
Speaker 3: Down and wait.
Speaker 4: So I think that, you know, we're gonna have a
serious discussion with him whether he wants to move up
to one forty seven. It wasn't like he was totally
embarrassed in the fight. Yeah, you know, he lost the decision.
He was competitive when they.
Speaker 3: Got closed and they exchanged cloths.
Speaker 4: So it's just a matter of whether he wants to
try to stay at that weight class, there's some great
fights for him, but if he wants to move up
to forty seven, there's also be some very good fights
for him as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he listen, he turned professional in twenty twelve,
so it's been a long career and he has in
fact been a junior walterway for his entire career. You know,
the highest he's ever fought was, you know, like a
couple pounds over, just in a non title type fight.
So hopefully he can, you know, get his stuff together
and see what's next. But the next fight down the card, Eric,
This was a barn and burner. This was a spectacular
action fight and I think unexpectedly from some people, and
that was Williams Zapeida in an absolute slug fest with
Tevin Farmer. He wins the interim WBC lightweight title, a
lot tougher I think than a lot of people expect
that maybe hard luck loss for Farmer, who scored a
big knockdown. I'm curious how you I thought that that
Zapeta just eked it out. I wonder how you were
sitting the ringside, how you how you saw that go?
And uh, does this set William up now for the
mandatory against Chaquar Stevenson, who's the WBC's lightweight champion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look the same thing with the Beta. I
think he got the prized. I think he got the prize. Uh.
Speaker 4: And that's the reason why we don't like doing these.
You know, if you remember, we were willing to do
the hit Cour fight straight away.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, that's right, got hurt and and.
Speaker 4: Chakourt even before he got hurt, Shaquurr announced that he
was going to do a tune up, so that forced
us to do a tune up.
Speaker 3: He was going to fight Cordina.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right. He had signed with Eddie Hern and
that Truman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wanted We wanted to do the fight direct. Uh.
It was a lot more competitive.
Speaker 4: A lot of people thought, uh, you know, if you
had to pick a fight where you can pick the winner,
that's probably the fight you were gonna pick. And a
lot of people felt that Beta was gonna stop him.
But you can't take away from til Farmer. He's a
tough kid, former champion. He's always going to give you
a good fight. He's always going to be prepared, ready
for a big fight. So I think he surprised him.
I think he surprised him a little bit. But yeah,
but he won.
Speaker 3: Look, he clearly won.
Speaker 4: If you count the number of punches the compyest that numbers.
Speaker 3: You know, he threw a lot more punches, He landed
a lot of body shots, and.
Speaker 4: You know, minus the knockdown, he pretty much dominated the fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I argue all the time on the podcast with
my partner TJ about copybox and it's not official and
sometimes it because it's you know, it's a guy, but
it doesn't really tell the true story. But you know,
I understand what you're saying about that. I must say though,
and you and I had some discussion about this, you know,
off off the air, so to speak. What drives me
absolutely crazy about this fight? A great, great fight, good matchup,
turned out to be good. Eric, I'm still dying inside
that they made a interim world title fight at ten rounder.
Please talk me down. Yeah, well, you know, again, unprecedented
by the way the fight.
Speaker 4: The fight was originally scheduled to be a.
Speaker 3: Ten round fight above the wakeslass.
Speaker 4: As I said, it was supposed to be a tuna fight.
Speaker 3: I know, no fight as a.
Speaker 4: Tune up, but still that's what it was, and the
WBC came in after the fact. Tevin Parmer was not
willing to do twelve rounds and it's within.
Speaker 3: The rules of the WBC to allow it to be
for ten rounds.
Speaker 2: So I've never heard of that.
Speaker 3: Everybody accepted.
Speaker 2: In twenty five years of covering box, I've never heard
of an interim title fight being a ten rounder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's within the rules of the WBC.
Speaker 4: The board accepted it, and you know, obviously it was
a little added bonus for both fighters, and they both
accepted and we.
Speaker 3: Went through with it.
Speaker 2: So does this mean that you will then endeavor with
Mattroom and read seasoned people to get Zepeida and Sho
Court in the ring. The rumor is February twenty second,
they are doing a big card on the READ season event.
Is that? Is that what we're looking plan?
Speaker 3: That's the plan.
Speaker 4: We've had preliminary talks with Mattroom yearn that's the plan.
The Beata was a little deemed up, so he is
going to go get checked out. He hurt one of
his hands, so he's gonna go get checked out, which
is customary.
Speaker 3: After a fight. We wanted to get checked out one
hundred percent.
Speaker 4: It's a quick turn around for February, so we'll see,
we'll see, you know.
Speaker 2: But if he's okay physically, you think that's the real process.
Speaker 4: That's the fight he wants. That's the fight he wants.
He wants that fight. And we've happened luminary talks with
Matt Troom. We've talked to his excellencyam you know, he
would love to do the fight in Riot. Yeah, so
we'll see, you know, it's in the next week or so,
the next couple of weeks. We'll get into deep discussions
and few it's off.
Speaker 3: It's off. It's a reality, all right.
Speaker 2: The next fight that I want to discuss is the
guy who I think all respect to Zerto, but this
was the guy that really, to me anyway, other than Zerdo,
was really the star of the show, maybe kind of
stole the show lit of it. That is your strawweight champion,
Oscar Colaso. He went in the ring against Neam Trong,
the long ragning champion, the longest raining active champion in
boxing up until the time where Klaswo knocked him out.
He'd held the title, the WBA strawway title since twenty sixteen,
was making his thirteenth defense. This is not a guy
that was some hobo off a truck. He may not
a lot of people may not have heard of him,
but he's been a long standing champ, fought some very
good competition over the years. Colaso though you know, still
very young in his career, even though he's a little
older for a strawwaight at age twenty seven. But anyway,
he was the WBO champion, went out there he can
just win the fight and take away the other guys
in the undefeated record, knocked him down three times in
quite spectacular fashion. Knocked him out. I don't know if
I've been more impressed with a smaller weight fighter like
that in a long time. I mean, what was your
take on him? Was a great performance?
Speaker 3: I thought, same here, same here.
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy is one of the most exciting
fighters in boxing.
Speaker 3: His boxing IQ is way up off the charts. He
really is one of the best fighters pound for pounds
in the world. He keeps approving it really patient and
yeah he is.
Speaker 4: And you know I I someone mentioned to me, you know,
he reminds me.
Speaker 3: Of somewhat of a little unchangle. I mean that kind
of iq.
Speaker 4: His footwork, the combinations, counter punching, the way he sets
up it's incredible. I love watching this kid. He's so exciting.
We're expecting big things.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a small weight, but he carries a
big punch.
Speaker 2: So in that weight class he needs and anybody in
that weight class to make a star, you need competition,
you need good opponents, you need recognizable names, you need
other world titles. So I look at the landscape and
I see and this has sort of been the case
for straweights. You know, most of the existence of the
weight division. It's not exactly star studded. So you tell
me if I'm wrong here. It seems like the only
thing that can maybe get him some more attraction if
he wants to stay in the division for a little
while longer, is to continue to unify the titles he's
got to. The other champions are the WBC champion Melvin Jerusalem,
who already defeated, and the IBF champion Pedro Tatterin, And
I wonder, is are either of those fights doable? Is
there somebody else you have in mind? Like what can
you do with him to to so more people can
see this outstanding young fighter.
Speaker 4: He wants to look, he wants to unify all the titles.
Speaker 3: That's what he wants to do. Match the title. Absolutely.
Speaker 4: We've already been contacted by both champions.
Speaker 3: And they want to fight him.
Speaker 4: And you know, the thing with him also is, you know, yeah,
it's hard to make a star in that weight class
and there hasn't been one in such a long time.
Speaker 3: And you got to go back to Carbo and Carbo
Hall was with a flyweight.
Speaker 2: I believe he was one hundred eight pounds. I mean
really the last the last star at strawwaight was Roman
Gonzales and there you go, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3: There there, there you go. But you see, there's a
difference with this kid.
Speaker 4: And the advantage that he has is that he has
an entire island behind him. Yeah, as you know, you know,
there's a rich history in boxing with Puerto Rico and
right now, at this time, there isn't really a standout champion.
He's the guy. He can be the one. You know,
he's clean cut, speaks English, Spanish. They love him in
Puerto Rico and his game is just growing there.
Speaker 3: And you know as well as I do.
Speaker 4: If you get the island behind you, they'll travel and
they'll come out and see you no matter where you fight.
And we're getting to that point. He's in the newspapers
every day. He's done the TV.
Speaker 3: News every day. This kid has star potential, ridd and
all over.
Speaker 2: He's got some swagger too. I love that he talks
a little shit too, you know he.
Speaker 3: Does, he does. He's very confident, but you know he
works very hard. I mean, this kid is king cut.
You know, you don't have to.
Speaker 4: Worry about this kid. And that's the best kind of
vibue you want. You know, he's not controversial, he's low key.
He gets to work. When he goes to camp, he
puts in the work. We're very excited for him. And
you know, this guy's a limit with him.
Speaker 2: I mean, does anybody uh, I guess because of the
belt be in at stake, maybe people might be interested
in seeing a rematch with Jerusalem already, like I said,
already defeated. Does that give you pause? I mean, or
is it just let's go get the titles regardless of
the fact that Charny beat the guy.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I mean that's the plant.
Speaker 4: We have to do a rematch with him, no problem,
and there will to do it as well. We got
contracted by his Okay, there's the other champion as well.
I believe the IDF champion who's who's very tough. He's
probably the you know, the other champion out there. They
can compete at that level against to do that.
Speaker 2: Those are the two guys. It's either Jerusalem with the
WBC or the IBF which you mentioned Pedro Taedoran from
the Philippines.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is a potential mandatory, dude, so we're gonna
have to look at that as well. But again, you know,
this kid wants to stay busy, he wants to keep
fighting the best, and that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: Now, the other guy that was not in a world
title fight, but in a very very outstanding, slug fast
and a very fun fight, Oscar Duarte against back here Achmindov.
They were slightly over the one hundred and forty limit.
That was really because of the fact that the fight
was on a little bit short notice because the original
opponent for Duarte, which was Kenneth Sims, dropped out with
a knee injury. So Akmadov, because he took it on
short notice, got a couple of pounds and said he'd
have to cut it all the way down, but they
turned out a tremendous battle that might have been, honestly,
in terms of round for round, maybe the best fight
on the card, even including Zapeta against Farmer Dwarte. Look,
if people know him from the Ryan Garcia fight, even
though he lost, he's now been in you know, a
couple of good fights since then. I mean it seems
to me that and he beat a guy in Achmandov
who kind of a hard luck loser on that one.
But both guys exciting, Both guys are solid, like either
one of them can fight, you know, anybody in that
weight class. That seems to me. I mean, you have
probably a lot of options you could do with Dwarte
coming off that kind of victory.
Speaker 4: You know. The good thing about Duane is that, yes,
you know he had the Ryan Garcia fight.
Speaker 3: He was competitive in that fight. If you remember the
birth had, you know he got caught.
Speaker 4: He's had two nine wins now that he's come back,
and he's always gonna be in competitive fights because he's
a hard nosed, aggressive fighter. He's gonna come at you,
he's gonna throw a lot of punches. That fight was great.
Oscar night were rings sighting. We're joking, you know, we
could have done the fighting.
Speaker 3: You know, these guys were in each other's speed.
Speaker 2: Eric today, the kids said they don't know what a
booth is. Unfortunately. Yeah, how about I mean, did you
think about a rematching those two guys? Maybe not next
but eventually that was such a good fight, so close,
It was such a good fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we would consider it, but obviously, you know, to
the victor's spoils, sure, he wants bigger fights.
Speaker 3: He wants to take advantage and you know, use.
Speaker 4: This victory to catapult him into a world title fight
or an eliminator or any of the top guys, any
of the top.
Speaker 3: Names, and that's what he wants. And with him, you know,
he can still make thirty five. He's really a lightweight.
Speaker 4: You know, before he fought Ryan Garcia, he had only
fought at lightweight. He moved up for the opportunity with
Ryan Garcia.
Speaker 3: This fight here, he was moving up for the opportunity
to fighting Kenneth Simms.
Speaker 4: Now he ended up fighting a little bit above, but
you know, he can still make one thirty five, so
he can compete with any of the.
Speaker 3: Champions that won thirty five.
Speaker 2: Now, one of the things that was interesting is, and
I don't think I'm not sure if that you had
anything to do with each other, you would have better
idea than I. But eating up to this card Latino
Knight was when TURKEYO Sheik announced that he had finalized
the deal with Oscar de la Hoya and Golden Boy
to buy The Ring Magazine, an asset that Oscar has had.
I had gone back and looked it up. I think
since what two thousand and three, maybe something like that
or two thousand and seven, I guess it was in
the early two thousand, I think, But it's been it's
been quite a while since Oscar had owned the magazine,
and I remember when he bought it that it was
sort of like a big deal because now the promoter's
owning the magazine. But people sort of settled in and
it's been, you know, been doing its thing all along.
So I wonder. I know that Oscar didn't like, really
want to sell it, I guess is the way I
heard it. But that, as he said, he ultimately got
a deal and an offer from Turkey aol chic, as
he said, an offer I couldn't refuse. He said it
was a ten million dollar deal. What were your thoughts
about having you know, the Ring magazine, which you guys
have owned for so long or I don't know if
it was Golden Boys or Oscars personally, but whatever, an
asset that was in the family for a very long time,
a very we well known brand in boxing and now
being owned by Turkey al Chic.
Speaker 3: Look, it's it's a historic brand.
Speaker 4: It's probably one of the few brands it's over one
hundred years old, managing.
Speaker 2: Wise, first first issue published in nineteen twenty two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. So so it was a very
tough decision for Oscar. That was his dately, you know,
and he took care of it throughout the years. But again,
like Oscar said himself, you know, he was made an offer.
Speaker 4: That he could refuse. And at the end of the day,
it's going to be a good hands.
Speaker 3: You know, the plans. I'm aware of the plans that.
Speaker 4: His excellence he has for the magazine and you know,
he's going to invest a lot more money in it,
and I think it's a win win for all the plans.
Speaker 3: You know, they're going to see a lot more things from.
Speaker 4: The Ring Magazine and it was great it was a
good It was a good deal overall.
Speaker 2: Well, I do look forward to the return of the
hard copy magazine because it's something that's not I read
obviously plenty of stuff on the Internet, but it's still
something about holding the magazine or the new paper in
your hands that makes it a little bit different. I
want to cover a couple other topics not related to
Saudi Arabia. A couple of days ago, it was announced that,
in conjunction with the Rizon Promotions in Japan and fan Meo,
that Ryan Garcia, a fighter that you guys promote obviously
but who was under suspension in the United States because
of his drug situation that's stemming from the Devon Hainey
fight in April, that he will take part in a
junior middle eight exhibition one hundred and fifty three pounds,
two minute rounds eight rounds against the Japanese kickboxing star
Ryukia and Po, a fighter who maybe not well known
in America, but he kicked Manny Pakio's ass in an
exhibition not that long ago, and now he's going to
be taking on Ryan in this exhibition match that will
take place. And so what was your thoughts about that
did you guys have to sign off on that, because obviously,
as his exclusive promoter, that would seem like something that
you would have to at least have a conversation about,
what's your thoughts about him partaking in an exhibition even
though he's currently under suspension orlwire.
Speaker 4: And you know, we we had liminary talks with New
York to make sure that they're aware and they're okay
with it. It's an exhibition fight. It's not gonna be
boxing rules. It's it's a little bit different. They're modified.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's it's a show, you know.
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be doing a little bit of
a concert as well. He's gonna sing a couple of songs,
and he's gonna and he's gonna do this this this match.
Speaker 2: So what are the modified rules though? Because I mean,
I mean other than the other than the two minute rounds.
I mean it was announcement two minute rounds, eight rounds.
It's eight rounds, two minute rounds.
Speaker 4: The bigger gloves, you know, just to name a few.
But yeah, look, I think it's great for Ryan. I
think it's important for him to stay out and be
relevant and put his fans and you know, he's he's
taken this serious.
Speaker 3: He's he's back in camp.
Speaker 4: He's had enough of the layoff where he wants to
get back into it, back into shape. He's honoring the
suspension first and foremost. That's the that's the most important thing.
We're gonna honor that, and it's gonna prepare him for
when he eventually does come back, because it's a win win,
it's gonna it's gonna.
Speaker 3: Get him shame.
Speaker 4: He's gonna have you know, it's not a sporting session.
They're not gonna have head gears, so you know it's
gonna it's gonna keep them sharp. So I think it's
a win win overall.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess there would be some that might have
another view from the other point of view that it
actually isn't honoring the suspension because he is going forward
and having a boxing match, whether it's under notified rules
or not. But he's getting paid, he's gonna be in
the ring with another professional. They're gonna wear boxing gloves,
they're gonna do a fight. You know, they're gonna make weight,
whatever the case may be. So I guess we could
have a difference of opinion on that. One of the
things that I thought was interesting on Latino Night is
that during the course of the broadcast, Oscar was there,
of course, as was you know, your top junior middleweight contender,
Virgil Ortiz Junior, and they were being interviewed about what's
next for Virgial. He's been rumored to be another man
that is possible for this February twenty second read season card,
and they were mentioning different names. You know, we all
know the guys that that Virgil wants if he's mentioned
boutsen Is and Terrence Crawford and Fondora. So I guess
the question is are we going to see Virgil back
in action on February twenty second, and which way are
we going one of these There's a lot of good
guys he can match up with if if the deals
can get done.
Speaker 4: We started talk for a preliminary fight with a preliminary
talk for a.
Speaker 3: Fight with Boots.
Speaker 2: That's a great matchup, uh and Virgil's.
Speaker 3: Wants that fight. He's willing to do it.
Speaker 4: So we've started talk going on the next couple of
weeks whether we can get.
Speaker 3: It done or not.
Speaker 2: So obviously that would mean Boots would be moving up
to fight him at one hundred and fifty four.
Speaker 3: Yes, correct, that's correct.
Speaker 2: I mean when I hear about a fight like that,
I get excited. I mean I just can't. I mean,
that's if you were saying to somebody like, hey, go
right down, like you know, you're, you know whatever, your
top ten, twelve, fifteen fights you'd be interested to see
in boxing, I would imagine that some people might say, hey,
that's one of them.
Speaker 3: It is, it is. It's a great fight to uni
feed champions, both American. You know, Boots is done.
Speaker 4: Great for himself at WELTERWAD He's going to move up
now challenge I went forty four. And you know Virgil,
since he got through with his illness, he's been great.
You know, it was a tough fight his last fight,
but he pulled it off and now you know he
wants to step into these big fights. And uh, it's
a win win for the fans. Whenever you have two
guys that are undefeated, both champions, fighting each other pretty
much in their prime.
Speaker 2: You know, they're still young, no doubt about it. I mean,
Virgil what, he's the interim champion of the WBC and
Boots is the IBF welterweight champion, and like you said,
both undefeated, both exciting styles. I mean, why not make
the match if they're willing. And one thing we know,
Eric is that when riad season is involved, the money
is there to have to make these types of matches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a great thing about his excellency.
Speaker 4: You know, he's the one that's you know, pretty much
making these big fights happen because you know, he's investing,
he's investing.
Speaker 3: In boxing, and it's and and you know.
Speaker 4: It's very very important to be able to do that
so we can get these fights because it grows the support,
it grows our support, it grows the awareness for the
and when people hear about these fights, they get very excited.
No different than when we were gonna do the fight
with Zoo, with Tim Zuo, people were very excited about
that fight with Virgil Ortiz. Unfortunately we weren't able to
do it because of his injuries.
Speaker 3: But you know, this is that type of fight. People
get excited for these fights. There's so much on the line.
Speaker 4: It's a win win again for everybody, for the fans,
for you guys and media, everybody.
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you about one other guy. That's
on the Golden Boy roster. What's what's the latest on
Floyd's schoolfield? You're excellent undefeated lightweight.
Speaker 3: Floyd. Floyd's on vacation. He's resting now.
Speaker 2: He did long ago.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he just fought a couple of weeks back and
it was a tough fight, tough fight, but he pulled
it off.
Speaker 3: And look, he's marching towards a significant fight.
Speaker 4: You know, he's still a little bit young, he's still learning,
and he's cracked now the top ten.
Speaker 3: I believe he's number four or three in the WBM.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: I don't have it front of me, but yeah, we're
just gonna keep building him and I think that sometime
next year he should have some sort of significant fight,
whether it's an eliminator, whether we get a chance for
a world title. But he's there, he's there, he keeps
getting better, he's learning. We're excited about him. He's an
exciting fighter.
Speaker 2: I want to wrap up with this, Eric, this is
a very important question. I want to know. Are you
as big of a fan as Oscars Clapback Thursdays as
I am?
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, And it should be coming out any any
any in any minute.
Speaker 2: Now, well, some people know we're taping this on Thursday,
so yes, I'm anxiously awaiting Oscars clapback Thursday. Does he
tell you what he's going to talk about? Do you
like shake your head.
Speaker 3: No, he comes up with it himself.
Speaker 4: He might call me for some information or facts whatever,
but no, it's all him. It's all him, and I
believe his lovely fiance Holly uh you know, she she
helps him with it.
Speaker 3: And it's great. I mean, we've got a great response.
You know, so many.
Speaker 4: People call us and they love it, especially when he
goes after Eddie a little bit.
Speaker 3: But no, it's yeah, but it's great though. It's great,
and it's at it and it helps, you know, it
helps promote the support of boxing.
Speaker 2: I love it. Eric. I appreciate your time for this.
We were able to cover a lot of topics, a
lot of guys, a lot of Golden Boy stuff, So
thank you very much for your time. I wish you
have a great holiday season. I look forward to some
big Golden Boys stuff coming up next year.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you Dan as always, and thank you for
always supporting Golden Boy our fights and boxing in general.
Speaker 3: But thank you. I'm always available and anytime we want
to chat.
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, everybody. That's Eric Gomez, the
president of Golden Boy Promotions. Thank you, Eric.
Speaker 3: Take care.
Speaker 1: As mentioned, it has been a bit, but I love
catching up with the boxing writer David Payne in England.
Speaker 5: You and I do converse off.
Speaker 1: The podcast, but here I get to formally do this
and actually, full disclosure, you and I can see each
other on the on the video hookup, et cetera. Good
to be with you, my friend, as we hang here
in one of the final weekends of the year. We're
winding down twenty twenty four. How are things? First of all,
little Chili, I believe in England, I've been saw some
saying snow right now in England a little bit, so
you're all right.
Speaker 6: I'm good. Yes, we've got snow up north where I
Herald from, so I'm getting photographs of Yorkshire beneath snow.
But yeah, otherwise good. Busy and hectic as always, but
always good to catch up with you and chin wag
about the old boxing.
Speaker 5: I like the chin wag, all right.
Speaker 1: So there was some chin wagging and some other things
in North Texas at and T Stadium. Jake Paul Mike
Tyson spectacle more so than action or fight. Did this
register in the UK? I'm just curious, from media coverage
to the circles you run in internet and otherwise do
you did the Brits care a lot about this just
because of the name Mike Tyson, even at fifty eight.
Speaker 6: One hundred percent, Yeah, one hundred percent if you want
the water cooler measure, the benchmark, the cafeteria, the canteen,
the grandma as the people in the shop. Yes, they
were talking about this fight like it was a fight
with a kind of twinkling their eye, a tongue in
the cheek, all the other cliches that we had to
attach to it because no one really knew what it was,
but people had bought into the five second clips of Tyson.
Tried to forget his fifty eight years and the fact
he looked absolutely knacked in two thousand and five and
his history of quitting in fights when it's not going
his way, et cetera, because he was bored and fed
up of the sport. But at fifty eight he looked
in good shape. But it's not there anymore. As you
and I know, TJ were fast approaching those sort of
numbers in your mind, it's still there, but when you
go to do it with the body, it doesn't quite
do with what you expected to do. So I think
that's what he found and everyone got out and hurt.
A lot of money was made, which only increases the
probability that we will find some other way of doing
something similar in the future, and we will see more
of this. Scientists debate, but it's hard to conjure a
figure that's going to draw the crowd and the kind
of interest that Tyson did. That's a fixture that's going
to be hard to recreate. Numbers wise, I would imagine.
Speaker 1: I love your nostalgic mind, your insight like I am.
Because he came back, Does it cheapen it some more
because we have to attach this to the career that
he's trying to do this at age fifty eight, or
does the nostalgic David Payne, the boxing writer, still just
want to remember Tyson of the heyday, Tyson of the
late eighties, ninety post prison getting heavyweight title belts back
before Evander Holyfield beat him again. That was almost thirty
years ago that that was going on. What about for you?
Speaker 6: I think this is irrelevant. We can all accept this
is irrelevant. If he'd been forty five, maybe there's some
sort of smudge on his record. But I've always tried
to view Tyson in the round TJ in the sense
that his peak was very brief, two three, four years perhaps,
and a lot of his career post Douglas was curated,
avoiding risk until such time as the biggest paydays were available,
managing his waning and wayward interest, just to capitalize on
the name and the money. And I think he was
a participant in that. It was done on his behalf
when he was a participant in that too. He's an
amazing fighter, and for those two or three years he
deserves mentioned alongside anyone you care to name. But in
the round, his career has always had a sense of
what could have been, even for all his achievements. But
this is so far removed from the reality of that
career that it has no weight for me.
Speaker 5: I understand.
Speaker 1: All Right, So the fight before that, and I said
this going in, and it was not a nuclear secret
as we like to say. I mean, we were looking
forward to Amanda Serrano, Katie Taylor, to the Katie Taylor,
Amanda Serrano too, because she had the four belts and
had the victory over Amanda. All right, so I wonder
from a distance, what did you think of that one?
Do you agree with the decision? I obviously was very
outspoken that I thought Serrano one.
Speaker 5: What did you think about this?
Speaker 6: I heard your very outspoken views on this, your passionate
debate or demonstration or soapbox moment.
Speaker 5: Yes, I might have had five soapbox moments. You're correct
on the previous part with Raphaeld.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was nice to see don giving you, giving
you the platform to get it off your chest. I'm
sure that was cathartic for you. It was an incredibly
close fight, and I wouldn't argue with the score that
had Serano winning in the same way I wouldn't have
argued in the first fight. It's unusual in two such
intense fights, such evenly matched fighters to equal box office draws,
that the fights don't go one each way, because that
would have lent itself even more to the third fight,
wouldn't it, of course, as the rubber match for both
of them, which is the richest fight of both of
them and the richest fighting in women's boxing. A tremendous event.
I didn't score as I went along Tjen. I took
the view of this is a very special occasion. Let's
just enjoy this absolute madness for the twenty minutes that
we'll get of it, because we may not see it again.
We may not see too equally matched female fighters at
this level that they perform at ever again. So I
enjoyed it for what it was. I wouldn't have argued
with the score either way by around, but I totally
respect your view that you had Serrano winning, and I
yeah off my cap to the comfy Box stats that
show that she was outscoring over the second half of
the fight. She's landing you. Some would argue with featherweight
punches against the lightweight, and a lightweight's landing with lightweight
punches against the featherweight, So it's got to be some
bearing for that. And I also thought your argument that
they were incompetent when they were scoring for Taylor in
the last four rounds, but they were the benchmark that
we should all look at when they were scoring for
Serrano in the first half. Somewhat undermind your argument, but
it's probably best we don't get into that. But I
enjoyed that. I enjoyed the to and fro of tens
and the to and fro between you two.
Speaker 1: To one thing is undeniable. They fought in front of
seventy thousand plus in the co main event, and according
to Netflix, there were over fifty million accounts, not people,
fifty million accounts worldwide watching, which makes this the most
viewed women's sporting event east in North America.
Speaker 5: Ever.
Speaker 6: I've got another I've got another measure for you, the
people like people like Taylor and Natasha Jonas and Serrano
and another another people even going back to Heather Hardy,
I suppose, but Taylor is a phenomena here. And I
left the boxing gym fifteen years ago as a tired
and battered old thirty five year old, and there was
one female boxing at the club, at the amateur club
I hasten to add. I've just been in contact with
them in the last week, as we discussed off off camera,
off Mike. They've now got six carded girls in their
boxing club, one of whom is boxing at a pretty
high level, almost the amateur system. That's obviously it's a
very anecdotal measure, but it shows the impact that this
is a credible pursuit for girls, and it's great to
see him taking up that challenge and taking up that opportunity.
And the doors are open at amateur clubs for females
and that's a tremendous thing. And it shows how far
we've come in the ten years that she's been a
pro thereabouts off the top of my head, and how
far he's come since she wasn't able to box over
in Ireland and had to pretend to be a boy
in order to have fights. So she's a phenomenon and
so is Sarana. So yes, it's an amazing thing that
they did from the seventy thousand people, and what a platform,
what exposure for female boxing.
Speaker 1: No doubt love the boxing writer David Paine here for
a few more minutes. Just I love chit chatting, commiserating
with him on all things. So we didn't talk a lot.
I don't know if we talked at all on a
pod about Dubois. When you did, I bow to you,
you did say watch out.
Speaker 5: He's different.
Speaker 1: He's got a different trainer and as you guys like
to say, he chinned Joshua will right away and was
very impressive. So now this begs the question will he
just simply wait for whatever happens with Fury and Usik,
And in particular, if it's Fury, then that's logically the
next fight. But if it's too sick, then I don't
know that USA cares to fight Dubois again right now.
Speaker 5: I don't know what he has to prove. What do
you think is next?
Speaker 1: While in limbo a little bit here for Dubois, he
mentioned the name Jake Paul, who isn't right now because
of the money the Golden Ticket.
Speaker 5: But I thought, on Dubois real quick, well.
Speaker 6: Let's leave Jake Paul out of it. We headed the show, Jake,
Let's leave him out of it. They're all after that money,
aren't they.
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 6: For Jubois was sensational. I know it's it's old news now,
but he was sensational in his performance. Absolutely clubed Joshua.
I won't say I called it, but I thought he
was very, very dangerous for Joshua at this stage of
his career. I thought Joshua had been very carefully managed
this last year or two with the kind of opponents
he had, and Dubois just seems to have found some
things that was lacking in two or three years ago,
and he's very refreshing to watch because he's come forward.
He's aggressive, and he throws lots of heavy and there's
not many of those around, or we haven't seen many
of those around. He's definitely in limbo TJ. That's common
sense and obvious, again, not a nuclear secret, that he's
going to wait for the Fury U sic To shake out,
because if Fury wins, we're presumably heading towards Fury Joshua,
which will seem Ludi Chris given what Dubois has just
done to Joshua. But there's so much money to be
had they can't risk leaving it any longer as to
presume there's a possibility of a trilogy match there. So
those kind of things are all up in the air
until we see the outcome of that December fight. Dubois
has not got a long list of exciting big names
on his IBF list that sit below him as champion.
One or two have got fights coming up, but he'll
want one. Would assume that he'll want one of those
big fights if he can get one, but he won't
want to sit around indefinitely, so he'll want quick news
once that fight's resolved in in December. But I'm certainly
and I hope many other people will be tuning into
him as an attraction in his own right, not just
necessarily because he's firing a Fury or a Joshua.
Speaker 1: Or has he gained standing now? Is he a bigger
name than what he was? Obviously because of that, Joshua
will win in terms of media coverage and interest.
Speaker 5: And how much does that help him?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: Absolutely it helps him. He's a long way from reaching
the star that Joshua has been of course all Fury
for that matter, but he's definitely a legitimate known name.
People saw that Joshua destruction. You couldn't write it off.
It wasn't a flute punch. He smashed him about for
four or five rounds, put him over four times, was it.
And it was the kind of performance that appeals. It
appeals to the casual fan because it's a knockout puncher
that's coming forward and looking like he's going to take
your head off. So he's not a natural in front
of the camera when he's not good gloves on in
the ring, but he's certainly easy on the eye as
a TV fighter and TV fighters draw crowds and draw casuals,
and I think if he can learn to move his
head a little more, he might be around for a
year or two and he might cause an upset or
two more yet, if he gets those.
Speaker 5: Matches, love it. All right?
Speaker 1: So before I let you go, and before we have
to get out of here, Sonny Edwards Gallia five vacant
WBC Interim flyweight title fight is upcoming next weekend in Birmingham, England.
All right, So we know that Sonny can talk, we
know that he can box, but we also know that
Bam Rodriguez brutalized him about a year ago. All right,
what do you make of this in the preview mode?
How intrigued are you?
Speaker 6: And this is a great fight, TJ. I don't know
how this transfers over to the US, you always asked
me vice versa. I don't imagine he does the flyweight
guys and below, as you were talking about in your
podcast too with Dan, don't always translate to big audiences
because often they don't bring the knockouts in the same way.
But this is a really good fight between two top
level operators. Your fire as a former Olympic medalist Sonny
Edwards was a very good amateur and they've both been
good pros. You fight turning over much later, and I
think style wise it would be good. I think Edwards.
I think your Fire is not Bam Bam. I think
he's got quicker hand speed and that caused Edwards problems,
causing problems with distance as well. But it's a good
style match up. Your Fire will come forward, he will
throw punches. He's quite refined, he's not chaotic with his
he's not all out. He's very precise in the main
so he's a good boxer, but he's the punch if
there is one in the fight. And Sonny, as we know,
has got that kind of elusive slippery style, but he
stood in the pocket too much with Bam Bam and
paid the price for that. They've boxed, believe it or not,
and this is widely available via their previews. They've boxed
the estimate between one hundred and two hundred rounds together
as am in the GP squad. Whilst your Fire is
an inexperienced pro, he's a decorated amateur with Stax office
and he's very very qualified in how to box Edwards.
So it's a good fight, probably a distance fight, and
it should be terrific because there's a little bit.
Speaker 2: Of bad blood.
Speaker 6: I'll finish on this. For those that don't know, Your
Fire was selected for the GB Olympic squad despite the
fact that Edwards beating him in an amateur fight the
year before. The person selecting the squad the GP squad
was Rob McCracken, which was Your Fire's trainer, So that
has burnt deep in Edwards. So there's a little bit
of bad blood that they would like to sort out
who was the best? Who is the best? And so
there's quite a lot on the line above and beyond
the ridiculous always vacant WBC interim title.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and you just gave me some great stuff
for the preview mode for later this week. In advance
from the Boxing Writer on Sunny Edwards and Galia Phi
coming this coming weekend. Listen whenever I get a chance
to chat it up with you, I love it. Thank
you for the time here. Let's try to do this
again before the end of this year because we obviously
have Fury Usic coming next month. I got to get
the boxing right low down on that, my friend. Thank you,
I know you went to extra links to be with
me because it's late night in England while I'm talking
to you. So thank you for hanging with me here
on the pod.
Speaker 6: Always my pleasure. Great work with the podcast with Dan.
Speaker 2: Keep it up.
Speaker 6: It's great to listen to and I will catch it
with you whenever you reach out for me. I'll be here, mate.
Speaker 5: Love it.
Speaker 1: Find him at boxing writer dot co dot UK. I
love the insight and have for years of David Payne
be well my friend.
Speaker 5: So there we go. That will do it.
Speaker 1: On this edition of the Fight Freaks Unite Recap podcast.
Again we traditionally have news, nostalgic, et cetera. There just
was not a lot for this weekend. But that doesn't
mean we're not going to be back later this weekend
and around the Thanksgiving holiday. I know some of you
may be traveling here in the United States. Fear not.
We will be here later in the week with more
in the preview mode on the Sunny Edwards fight coming
with Galia Phi and that entire card for England this weekend,
some good nostalgia midweek two to go over with Dan
and we'll find out about the Thanksgiving dinner table, lunch
table dinner table, etc. The travel plans all of that
that'll be coming later on in the week. By the way,
for more of Dan's thoughts and reporting on everything from
this weekend, once again, find his substack, the Fight Freaks
Unite substack. Beyond his newsletter and on his social media,
you can obviously find out more through Twitter, x, Facebook, Instagram, etc.
What his thoughts and what his comments are, as well
as the substack.
Speaker 5: For now, I am TJ. Reeves.
Speaker 1: Have a fantastic Thanksgiving week. Dan and I will be
here later in the week in and around the Thanksgiving
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in subscribing. Hope you enjoyed the content here off of
the weekend on the Fight Freaks Unite Recap podcast