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Speaker 1: For members only. Golf Smarter number three hundred and forty six,

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Speaker 1: published on August fourteen, twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain

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Speaker 2: insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the

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Speaker 2: Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets Old. Our

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Speaker 2: interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations

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Speaker 3: Pay close attention to look at the back of the

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Speaker 3: left hand in the last frame before impact, and the

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Speaker 3: back of the left hand is facing straight to the camera,

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Speaker 3: and the club is pointed straight backwards, maybe even a

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Speaker 3: little upward. And then a frame or two later, the

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Speaker 3: hand is only moved latterly toward the target about fifteen inches,

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Speaker 3: But now the underside of the left wrist is facing

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Speaker 3: toward the camera. So there's been a four hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty degree rotation of that left hand through impact the

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Speaker 3: release we call it. And when that hand releases that way,

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Speaker 3: look at what happened. The hand move laterally from six

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Speaker 3: or eight inches behind the ball to six or eight

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Speaker 3: inches in front of the ball, but the clubhead moved

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Speaker 3: from three and a half feet behind the ball to

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Speaker 3: three and a half feet ahead of the ball. So

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Speaker 3: there's a tremendous magnification of power in that rotational move

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Speaker 3: of the hand through impact. That's why tour players can

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Speaker 3: hit it so far and look like they're not swinging

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Speaker 3: hard at all, because the only thing moving fast is

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Speaker 3: that rotational move of the hand, and that's where they're

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Speaker 3: getting this tremendous magnification of power. It's the proper release,

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Speaker 3: and you can go learn that by hitting pitch shots

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Speaker 3: and rotating and releasing that because you're doing it in

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Speaker 3: slow motion, and once you get the feel of that

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Speaker 3: is the biggest epiphany, eye opener you will ever have

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Speaker 3: in golf. You learn how to properly rotate your left

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Speaker 3: arm through impact so that you get that magnification of power.

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Speaker 3: I personally think that was Hogan's secret.

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Speaker 1: The Secret of Scoring with Terry Kaylor of our new

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Speaker 1: Shortcut Academy. This is Golf.

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Speaker 2: Smarter, sharing tips and insights from golfers and golf professionals

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Speaker 2: to help lower your score. It's worked for your host,

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Speaker 2: Fred Green.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Golf Smarter for members only.

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Speaker 3: Terry, thank you for rhyth I'm glad to be back

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Speaker 3: and continue to talk about the short game.

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Speaker 1: Well, put on your slippers, buddy, because it seems like

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Speaker 1: you and I are going to be spending a lot

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Speaker 1: of time in this room together. I'm very excited about

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Speaker 1: the questions that are coming in from the audience and

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Speaker 1: you answering them on every Golf Smarter episode. And again,

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Speaker 1: I just want to remind people that if you submit

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Speaker 1: a question to Terry, he is going to answer it

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Speaker 1: or one of his staff will answer it. But I

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Speaker 1: want to pick up from where we left off on

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Speaker 1: the last episode, and that you were talking about technique

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Speaker 1: in short game and bringing up the names of different

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Speaker 1: tour players. I want to just let you riff on that.

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Speaker 1: I want to pick it up from there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know we were talking about the LPGA and

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Speaker 3: I had mentioned the Avon Masters and watching these ladies

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Speaker 3: come in and they were throwing darts at the flags,

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Speaker 3: they were hitting it all over the hole, they were

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Speaker 3: making puts from everywhere. And you know, the LPGA player

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Speaker 3: less the tour male tour counterpart. So what my whole

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Speaker 3: point is is that you know, you you listeners out there.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to learn how to hit three hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty yard drives like the tour players do. You're

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Speaker 3: not going to learn how to hit one hundred ninety

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Speaker 3: want to. It's not the game you play. You're not

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Speaker 3: teeing it up on these seventy five seventy six hundred

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Speaker 3: It's all technique that lets you hit really solid, accurate

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Speaker 3: to play the golf course if you think about your

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Speaker 3: round of golf, and I alluded to this in the

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Speaker 3: you know, five six iron, seven iron range for half

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Speaker 3: hitting the ball on the green and closer and closer

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Speaker 3: It's inevitable. It has to go down if you're giving

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Speaker 3: yourself par in birdie putts when you put that nine

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. You've mentioned before that you've been playing golf

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Speaker 3: No, I've had dozens hundreds. Probably like to say, I

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Speaker 3: don't remember life before golf. I literally my earliest memory

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Speaker 3: I was, but that's my earliest memory of life. But

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Speaker 3: my dad was a good amateur player. And I grew

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Speaker 3: up in the fifties in small town Texas, and every

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Speaker 3: And I look at juniors and I kind of get

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Speaker 3: techniques and fundamentals. It's like, just let them go have fun.

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Speaker 3: Let them smack the golf ball. I mean, when you're

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Speaker 3: And they don't need to be digging divots at that

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Speaker 3: you know, I watched the high school kids in our town,

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Speaker 3: And I think you put that little kid out there

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Speaker 1: Just listen when you and I were kids. We used

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Speaker 3: You know. And that's the thing. I mean, golf is

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Speaker 3: And if Susie can't quite hit it as far as

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Speaker 3: And I meanway, but we're talking about the short game.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that Jeff Mangum and I

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Speaker 1: But get that hard part out of the way and kids,

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Speaker 3: I really think that the game has to be taught,

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Speaker 3: whether you're teaching a five year old or a forty

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Speaker 3: I really believe if you're going to try to teach

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Speaker 3: you or spinning your wheels, you cannot learn this game

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Speaker 3: from the tee forward. You've got to learn this game

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Speaker 3: fundamentals is short game, And we're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: That the fundamentals are that if you mean take driver's in,

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Speaker 3: and he's you know, just right back and forth number

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Speaker 3: one in the world. Okay, he doesn't hit it as

435
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Speaker 3: far as those guys, but when he's one fifty two,

436
00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:03,799
Speaker 3: he knows how to hit it one fifty two and

437
00:20:03,839 --> 00:20:05,519
Speaker 3: he's not going to hit it one sixty five this

438
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,559
Speaker 3: time and one forty one the next time. He doesn't

439
00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 3: do that. So the way you do that is you

440
00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:16,279
Speaker 3: simplify and you take away moving parts. And you know,

441
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 3: everybody got enamored with Sergio Garcia and this big lag

442
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,559
Speaker 3: that he had. Whatever, But to me, if your listeners,

443
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,519
Speaker 3: and I mean, he's endorsed by another company, but go

444
00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:31,519
Speaker 3: on YouTube and watch video after video after video of

445
00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 3: Steve Stricker. He's got the most simple swing move. It

446
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,799
Speaker 3: looks like there's one moving part and that's his body core.

447
00:20:38,279 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 3: He's not hinging his hands, he's not flopping the club around.

448
00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:45,799
Speaker 3: He is back and through with his body core. And

449
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 3: as you watch these these videos of Steve Stricker, watch

450
00:20:49,559 --> 00:20:52,920
Speaker 3: the relationship between his hands and the front of his sternum,

451
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 3: and his club rotates back and his whole body rotates

452
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 3: back in one piece. And when his when his sternum

453
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Speaker 3: his face away from the target, his hands are out

454
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Speaker 3: in front of him, and when he comes through, his

455
00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: hands are in front of him, and when he rotates

456
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Speaker 3: through impact and this sternam is facing the target, his

457
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,519
Speaker 3: hands right in front of him, and the relationship between

458
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Speaker 3: his hands and his sternam does not change dramatically. It's

459
00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 3: a very simple, one piece move. And I will tell

460
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Speaker 3: you why this is so important. The closer we get.

461
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Speaker 3: If you think about your posture and your stance and

462
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 3: the golf swing. Your feet are planted on the ground,

463
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Speaker 3: so they can't move. They can't move closer and further

464
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Speaker 3: from the ball. They can't move up and down. They're

465
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Speaker 3: planting on the ground, so they are the most stable

466
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Speaker 3: thing in your golf swing. But you can stand in

467
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Speaker 3: one spot and you can make your hands go in

468
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Speaker 3: a six foot circle. You can put your hands anywhere

469
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Speaker 3: you want to put them. Right. Are you following me here?

470
00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:49,039
Speaker 3: I'm with you, okay. So then you move up to

471
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Speaker 3: your hips. Your hips can rotate back and through, but

472
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Speaker 3: they can't move very far off of that stable base

473
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Speaker 3: that you have with your feet, or you will lose

474
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Speaker 3: your balance if you go up from your his to

475
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Speaker 3: your And I would ask everyone of you guys, get

476
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Speaker 3: out of your chairs and stand up and get in

477
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: this kind of basic golf posture, bent overlook at the hips,

478
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 3: your knees flexed, and put your finger right on your sternum,

479
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 3: right on your button on your shirt, and push backwards

480
00:22:17,559 --> 00:22:20,519
Speaker 3: and then push against your finger forward. You cannot move

481
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Speaker 3: the center of your body more than a half an

482
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Speaker 3: inch before you can feel yourself out of balance. So

483
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Speaker 3: what if you could connect your hands with your sternum consistently,

484
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Speaker 3: then you could not move impact more than a half

485
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Speaker 3: an inch. You couldn't hit one in the hostle, you

486
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Speaker 3: couldn't hit one out on the toe, you couldn't hit

487
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Speaker 3: one high or low on the clubhed because your sternum

488
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Speaker 3: cannot move more than half an inch without you falling

489
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Speaker 3: out of balance. So if you think about controlling your

490
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Speaker 3: golfswing from that body core, and you learn to just

491
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Speaker 3: rotate your body core, and I'm one drill I love

492
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Speaker 3: is to stand up and get in golf posture and

493
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 3: just cross your arms over your chest and put a

494
00:22:56,279 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 3: hand in the front of each shoulder and just rotate

495
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Speaker 3: where your sternum face is backward, and rotate where your

496
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,759
Speaker 3: sternum faces forward and your weight's over your left foot,

497
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: and you will find you can do that over and

498
00:23:06,759 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: over and over without losing your balance. It's a great

499
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Speaker 3: drill to learn how to rotate your body core. That's so,

500
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Speaker 3: that's a fundamental. If you control the gosswing of your

501
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Speaker 3: body core, it can't get very far out of whack.

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Speaker 1: I'm standing up, My hands are on my shoulders, Okay.

503
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Speaker 3: So you can feel of this back and through rotation,

504
00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 3: and you rotate back and you and you feel the

505
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,799
Speaker 3: weight in the inside of your right foot, and you

506
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 3: rotate through and you feel your weight go all the

507
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: way over on your left side. Where you finish with

508
00:23:39,759 --> 00:23:41,839
Speaker 3: all your weight on your left side, you're sternum facing

509
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,759
Speaker 3: down the target line, your hands crossed, and you can

510
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Speaker 3: do that back and forth and groove that. Okay, groove that,

511
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Speaker 3: and now you have a core driven golf swing. Fundamental

512
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Speaker 3: number one, you've got to control the gosswing with the

513
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Speaker 3: body core. Okay. Fundamental number two you have to have

514
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Speaker 3: a proper grip on the golf club. And you can

515
00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 3: go read excerpts of Ben Hogan's book. And the grip

516
00:24:06,039 --> 00:24:09,759
Speaker 3: is not a personal thing. The grip is a sound fundamental.

517
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,279
Speaker 3: It's just like you know, some people like to drive

518
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Speaker 3: the car from the passenger seat. Some people like to

519
00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 3: drive the car from the back seat. Some people like

520
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,799
Speaker 3: to drive their car from the roof of the This

521
00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:20,799
Speaker 3: is not a personal thing. You drive the car from

522
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: the driver's seat with your hands properly on the wheel.

523
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Speaker 3: That's the way you drive. And there is one technically

524
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 3: sound way to hold a golf club. Now you can

525
00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:32,079
Speaker 3: choose the interlock grip, or the overlap grip, or the

526
00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 3: full finger grip. Not baseball, but the club runs under

527
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Speaker 3: the pad of the left hand left heel, the heel

528
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Speaker 3: of the left hand and way into the fingers under

529
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Speaker 3: the pad at the base of the fingers. Nine golfers

530
00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 3: have the club way too much up in the palm.

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Speaker 1: Of their hands. Right the grip or just death grip,

532
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Speaker 1: huh get it?

533
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 3: And you well, they're just holding onto it like a

534
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,519
Speaker 3: ham sandwich is. A guy once said, you know, hold

535
00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:00,599
Speaker 3: the club in your fingertips, and you cannot a golf

536
00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: club too lightly. Your body will not let you hold

537
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,039
Speaker 3: it so light that it flies out of your hand.

538
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,319
Speaker 3: And the other fundamental of the grip is the golf

539
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 3: swing is a pull motion with for right handed players

540
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Speaker 3: this is a left sided.

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Speaker 1: Action.

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Speaker 3: Here was an analogy that I'll tell you in the

543
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: golf swing. You have a hinging point at your shoulder.

544
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Speaker 3: You have a hinging point at your wrist. You should

545
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 3: not have a hinging point at your elbow. But you

546
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 3: have hinging points in this connection between your body and

547
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,559
Speaker 3: the clubhead. Correct, yep. So let's call it a rope, okay,

548
00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: or a chain. It's a chain with three links. The

549
00:25:39,319 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 3: club is a link, your arms are a link. The

550
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,799
Speaker 3: body's a link. Okay. If you are trying to hit

551
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,319
Speaker 3: the club with your right hand, you were pushing a chain. Okay,

552
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 3: go push a chain. See how far you can push

553
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 3: a chain. Pull a chain to make a chain move right,

554
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 3: like pushing a rope. Go in your yard and get

555
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: you a ten feet piece of rope. See how far

556
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:01,759
Speaker 3: you can push it. You can't push a rope. You

557
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:06,039
Speaker 3: got to pull a rope. And this hinging connection between

558
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: the clubhead and your body is a flexible connection. It

559
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,759
Speaker 3: has to be pulled. And what happens when you pull

560
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: a rope or a chain. You look behind you and

561
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,279
Speaker 3: it's dead straight, and if you turn, it makes a

562
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 3: turn and it's dead straight again. And that's what happens

563
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,039
Speaker 3: in the golfswing. If you learn how to pull the

564
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: club through with the muscles of your lead side, your

565
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 3: left side. For a right handed player, that club has

566
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:33,279
Speaker 3: got to go and you have a nice relaxed grip

567
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,079
Speaker 3: on it where it can hinge naturally. That club has

568
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,279
Speaker 3: got to go in like that rope. It's got to

569
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:41,039
Speaker 3: go pretty much in the same place every time. But

570
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 3: if you're trying to hit it with your right hand,

571
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 3: if you're trying to dominate the clubhead with your right hand,

572
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 3: which is the natural thing to do. We're all right handed.

573
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 3: We got this little striking implement three feet from our hand.

574
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: We got this little golf ball. We got to make

575
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,799
Speaker 3: that golf ball move with that striking surface. That's why

576
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 3: people can't break one hundred or ninety, because you can't

577
00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:02,799
Speaker 3: do that. And if you want an illustration of that,

578
00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: this is another illustration. Take your golf club and tape

579
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: a sharpie to the end of your golf club. Now

580
00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:14,079
Speaker 3: take another sharpie and go over to a wall or

581
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,839
Speaker 3: a flip chart and sign your name with a sharpie.

582
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: And then step away and pick up that golf club

583
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: with the sharpy tape to the end, and try to

584
00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:24,839
Speaker 3: sign your name from that thirty inches away that your

585
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: hand now is from that sharpie. That thirty inches is

586
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:30,599
Speaker 3: an error magnifier, and you will sign your name that

587
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: looked like you did when you were seven, because that's

588
00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:38,279
Speaker 3: an error magnifier. I mean, it's a great illustration of

589
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: you cannot get the club face on the ball with

590
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,559
Speaker 3: your right hand. It is physically impossible to do that

591
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: with any consistency. And those that try the hardest shoot

592
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,559
Speaker 3: nineties and hundreds. Those that are willing to learn how

593
00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: to pull the golf club through impact. I mean, don't

594
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,599
Speaker 3: get me wrong, guys, it's still a difficult game. But

595
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: it's difficult enough if you're trying to learn how to

596
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: do it right. It's just really impossible if you're trying

597
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,799
Speaker 3: to learn how to do it wrong. I mean, how

598
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:07,519
Speaker 3: many people are out there listening, And how many people

599
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:09,599
Speaker 3: do you know that have played golf their whole life?

600
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: One in two days a week. They practiced like crazy,

601
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,039
Speaker 3: and they're still shooting in the nineties.

602
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Okay, it's the masses.

603
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: It's the masses. Why do you think that is. It's

604
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:20,799
Speaker 3: not because you don't put in the time. It's because

605
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:24,079
Speaker 3: you're doing it wrong. You cannot push this rope. You

606
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,839
Speaker 3: cannot push this chain through impact. You've got to pull

607
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,759
Speaker 3: it through impact. Second fundamental, it's a left side dominated game.

608
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 3: Third fundamental, you can't hold the club too lightly. Okay.

609
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,319
Speaker 3: And another thing that I think has golfer so screwed up,

610
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: and that is this pounding and pounding and pounding that

611
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 3: we've had. You got to accelerate through the ball. You

612
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: got to accelerate through the ball. You decelerated, well, most

613
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: people didn't really decelerate. You just really don't. If you

614
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,519
Speaker 3: clocked the clubhead speed at the beginning of the backswing,

615
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: it's all. It would be pretty physically impossible to have

616
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: more club hits bet at the start of the backswing

617
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,559
Speaker 3: than it impact. What you did is you changed your

618
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:09,759
Speaker 3: rate of acceleration. You jumped at it too hard from

619
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:14,079
Speaker 3: the backswing. If you have a car moving four miles

620
00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:16,279
Speaker 3: an hour and you give it a little gas and

621
00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: it speads up to five, it's still accelerating. Correct. It

622
00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:21,519
Speaker 3: doesn't have to go from four to forty to be acceleration.

623
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:26,519
Speaker 3: Four to five is acceleration. So what this accelerate through

624
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:28,519
Speaker 3: the ball. If you go out and watch your friends

625
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,759
Speaker 3: and watch the average amateur golfer. He's taking a short

626
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: backswing and he's really jabbing hard at the ball to

627
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:36,799
Speaker 3: try to get enough clubheadspeed to make it go. Well,

628
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: there's not enough swing there to have a nice leisurely acceleration,

629
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,039
Speaker 3: and so therefore you get these short jabby strokes. But

630
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 3: if you will will just go out and hit pitch

631
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,119
Speaker 3: shots little you know, take your gap wedge or your sandwich.

632
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: Go out and hit little pitch shots and just practice

633
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,359
Speaker 3: seeing how slow you can really move the golf club

634
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,559
Speaker 3: and still make the ball go right. It's really pretty amazing.

635
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: I mean just I mean, you can go into essentially

636
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: slow motion back and slow motion through and the ball

637
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: will still come off the clubhead with some zip. It's

638
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: pretty amazing actually, but you know, gets slower with it.

639
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:18,039
Speaker 3: One of the things I like to do is I

640
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: use the analogy of house painting and playing a golf

641
00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:24,079
Speaker 3: hole and around a golf is like painting a house.

642
00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:27,279
Speaker 3: So you have your power tools. The painter has the

643
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: sprayer and he comes in man, he gets the sprayer

644
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,519
Speaker 3: or the power roller and he is just laying the

645
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:34,279
Speaker 3: paint down on those big wall areas, just laying the

646
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: paint down, and then the other guy over here is

647
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: using a three to six inch trim brush or cut

648
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Speaker 3: in brush, and he's cutting in windows and doors. He

649
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:47,079
Speaker 3: works slower than that guy. He's the middle iron player, okay.

650
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,559
Speaker 3: And then the guy that comes in at the end

651
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,359
Speaker 3: is the trim guy, and he works with a little

652
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: one and a half two inch trim brush, little angle

653
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:58,319
Speaker 3: trim brush, and he works meticulously slow. And you know what,

654
00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:03,039
Speaker 3: his work determines whether or not that paint job looks

655
00:31:03,079 --> 00:31:04,759
Speaker 3: worth a dam or not. It doesn't really matter how

656
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,279
Speaker 3: good a job the spray guy did, or even the

657
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: cut in guy, because the trim guy can ruin a

658
00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:13,759
Speaker 3: round of golf, I mean a house painting job. Okay.

659
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: So you go hit a decent drive down there. Okay,

660
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: it got a little bit in the rough, but it

661
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 3: really had any trouble. And you got a six iron

662
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,599
Speaker 3: to the green. You hit a six iron, You pulled

663
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,519
Speaker 3: it a little bit, but it's off the left side

664
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 3: of the green. It's on the safe side. And then

665
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:27,039
Speaker 3: you chunk a chip, skull a chip in three punchs

666
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: and you got a seven and you go, how the

667
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: hell did I do that? Because your trim brushes you

668
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: were working too fast and not particulous enough. Your trim

669
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: brushes are your scoring clubs, and that they determine what

670
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:39,039
Speaker 3: your round of golf looks like when you're through.

671
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Speaker 1: Absolutely fascinating.

672
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: Now, thank you mister Furick for giving us a prime

673
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: example of that. On Sunday, Jim Furick chopped up the

674
00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:53,519
Speaker 3: last hole with his trim brushes. He was not in

675
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: real trouble after a second shot he had a bogie

676
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: to tie a part of win. I mean, you know

677
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 3: you would. And again I'm not knocking Jim Ferick. I

678
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: mean these are pressure pack situations. All your self doubts

679
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: and your demons and all those things you know are

680
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: right in front of you now. But you know he

681
00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: tried to get cute or whatever, and he just said,

682
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: you know, anywhere on the green, I'm going to tuput

683
00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:14,599
Speaker 3: for a bogie. I'm going to be in a playoff

684
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,119
Speaker 3: at worst. I am not going to get cute with this.

685
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: I Am not going to lose god urnament by trying

686
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:24,279
Speaker 3: to get cute. But he did, and and you know

687
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 3: that happens to all of us. I mean, how often

688
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,359
Speaker 3: you guys, know, all you listeners out there, and you

689
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,559
Speaker 3: know you get you hit a decent driving a decent

690
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 3: secord shot, and then you just chop the hole up

691
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: with your short clubs. I mean it's just maddening. It's like,

692
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: you know, Okay, I hit a two hundred and thirty

693
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: yard drive within fifteen yards of where I wanted it,

694
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: and I can't hit a thirty foot pitch shot within

695
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: fifteen yards of where I want it. I mean really,

696
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,519
Speaker 3: I mean think about that. So that's where that practice

697
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:56,279
Speaker 3: comes in. The good technique, you know, you know, get

698
00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:58,599
Speaker 3: your your body core in control, learn how to grip

699
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: the club lighter, keep it in your And one of

700
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,759
Speaker 3: the secret I call it the secret fundamentals is I

701
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: never read anything about it. When you look at the

702
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: golf magazines and when you watch golf on TV, when

703
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: they have a camera angle where you're looking straight at

704
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: the guy from his target or straight at the target

705
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:18,079
Speaker 3: from behind the guy and he's hitting a short club.

706
00:33:18,599 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: Look at his hand position. Look how close his hands are.

707
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: His arms are hanging straight in hers, hanging straight from

708
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: the shoulders down right off of the thighs. They look

709
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: almost crowded over the ball. But when they rotate back

710
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 3: and through those hands go exactly back through that same position,

711
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: and the clubhead goes back through the same position. They

712
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: make good crisp contact and the ball goes where it's

713
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,079
Speaker 3: supposed to go. There's not a straight line between the

714
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,119
Speaker 3: left arm and the clubhead and the golf swing. There's

715
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: an angle farm there because the way you're holding the

716
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,039
Speaker 3: golf club under the heel pad of your left hand,

717
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: you can't get the shaft in your arm in a

718
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: straight line. When you're looking from behind and there's a rotation,

719
00:33:57,079 --> 00:34:00,799
Speaker 3: the hands are not unhinging through impact, they're rotating. If

720
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: you're looking at swing sequence photos and you're looking straight on,

721
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 3: pay close attention to the to look at the back

722
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: of the left hand and the last frame before impact,

723
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,159
Speaker 3: and the back of the left hand is facing straight

724
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,079
Speaker 3: to the camera, and the club is pointed straight backwards,

725
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: maybe even a little upward, okay. And then a frame

726
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:22,679
Speaker 3: or two later, the hand is only moved latterly toward

727
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: the target about fifteen inches. But now the underside of

728
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 3: the left wrist is facing toward the camera. So there's

729
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 3: been a full hundred and eighty degree rotation of that

730
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 3: left hand through impact. The release we call it. And

731
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,559
Speaker 3: when that hand releases that way, look at what happened.

732
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 3: The hand moved laterally from six or eight inches behind

733
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 3: the ball to six or eight inches in front the ball,

734
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: but the club head moved. You know, let's say a

735
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: thirty six inch golf club. Let's take a forty inch club.

736
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:54,559
Speaker 3: The club has moved from three and a half feet

737
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,639
Speaker 3: behind the ball to three and a half feet ahead

738
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: of the ball. So there's a tremendous magnification of power

739
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,599
Speaker 3: in that rotational move of the hand through impact. That's

740
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:06,519
Speaker 3: why tour players can hit it so far and look

741
00:35:06,639 --> 00:35:09,119
Speaker 3: like they're not swinging hard at all, because the only

742
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: thing moving fast is that rotational move of the hand,

743
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,119
Speaker 3: and that's where they're getting this tremendous magnification of power.

744
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:19,079
Speaker 3: It's a proper release, and you can go learn that

745
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,559
Speaker 3: by hitting pitch shots and rotating and releasing that because

746
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: you're doing it in slow motion. And once you get

747
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,519
Speaker 3: the feel of that is the biggest epiphany, eye opener

748
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 3: you will ever have in golf if you learn how

749
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: to properly rotate your left side, your left arm through

750
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:36,639
Speaker 3: impact so that you get that magnification of power. I

751
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,559
Speaker 3: personally think that was Hogan's secret.

752
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,519
Speaker 1: Here we go, somebody Who's found Hogan's secret.

753
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,119
Speaker 3: I don't know, but as everybody claims to, Hogan didn't

754
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:54,159
Speaker 3: even talk about it. He talked per onation and supernation.

755
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:56,639
Speaker 3: He kind of came close to talking about it. But

756
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: if you go read the last thirty years of golf magazines,

757
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:03,199
Speaker 3: you won't the pen articles if that many written about

758
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:08,599
Speaker 3: the proper release through impact. People still think you cock

759
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,039
Speaker 3: the risks and uncock the risks, and that's really not

760
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,079
Speaker 3: what you do in golf swing. That is not I mean,

761
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:16,639
Speaker 3: it's happening a little bit, but that's not the move

762
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,639
Speaker 3: you're trying to get. That's just a resulting move caused

763
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 3: by a centrifugal force.

764
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: What I find so interesting is that so much of

765
00:36:26,519 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: what you said we may have heard before, but it's

766
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: so good to be reminded of this these points. And

767
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: it's not like we're talking about, you know, technical with mechanics.

768
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: You know, you focus more on technique and just proper

769
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: ways of doing things, and it's so easy to forget

770
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: it once you get involved in your game, and these

771
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: are so critically important. So thank you for that. And

772
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: I find it absolutely fascinating that you are not, as

773
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: far as I know you're not a PGA certified instructor,

774
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: yet you are a passionate golf professional who manufactures scoring clubs.

775
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing I you know, I had

776
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: a you know, I write a blog and I write

777
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,679
Speaker 3: twice a week and a half for five years. I

778
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 3: think I'm up to well over over a thousand articles.

779
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: Now I think he's promoted the wedge guy.

780
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: Wedgsguy dot com and you find it on the score

781
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,119
Speaker 3: Golf website. But I write twice a week and I write.

782
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: People ask me about things. I write things just you know,

783
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,639
Speaker 3: I observe in the on the tour event or observed

784
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:32,159
Speaker 3: watching golfers player, just things that strike me. And I'm

785
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,119
Speaker 3: kind of all over the lot. But I mainly focused.

786
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: But I had somebody asked me say, well, you know,

787
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,559
Speaker 3: you talk about, you know, the short game all the

788
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:42,039
Speaker 3: time because you sell wedges, and actually we don't sell wedges,

789
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: we sell scoring clubs. But my answer and was no,

790
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: I built scoring clubs because I talk about the short

791
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:51,039
Speaker 3: game all the time, and because I'm so focused on scoring.

792
00:37:51,079 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: Because I'm five seven and I was in high school

793
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 3: at one hundred and twenty pounds and I was not

794
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: going to hit it with the big guys, and I

795
00:37:57,519 --> 00:38:00,519
Speaker 3: was going to My dad was five nine, little guy,

796
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 3: and he was the best amateur golf in our town.

797
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: And you know, he was hitting seven irons in the

798
00:38:05,039 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: greens and all the big hitters were hitting wedges and

799
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 3: he was just killing them because between that his old

800
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: putter called Mandrake, he would just he would, you know,

801
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:14,079
Speaker 3: he made pars and birdies because he didn't hit it

802
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: in trouble. And I learned that if you're going to score,

803
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,519
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to do it with your short gloves

804
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:21,199
Speaker 3: because I'm not going to be chipping on par fives.

805
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to be hitting you know, full swing wedges

806
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:26,119
Speaker 3: and nine irons on par fives on my third shot,

807
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to be And I learned how

808
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: to strike the ball solid, and I learned how to

809
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:33,199
Speaker 3: get it up and down because that's the way I

810
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,559
Speaker 3: was going to compete with guys that could hit it

811
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: twenty thirty forty yards past me. I still play with

812
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,199
Speaker 3: guys that can hit it, you know, because most of

813
00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: the guys I play with are you know, young guys

814
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,679
Speaker 3: from their thirties to forties and their big guys, and

815
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,079
Speaker 3: you know, we had out there, and I'm respectfully long

816
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:50,599
Speaker 3: from my size, but I'm not a long hitter like

817
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 3: some of these guys. Well, you know, if I've got

818
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,519
Speaker 3: a guy and I'm playing a par five and this

819
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:57,159
Speaker 3: guy's going to be hitting foreign to that green on

820
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,039
Speaker 3: his second shot, and I know I'm going to be

821
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: hitting six iron to left up to wedge range, then

822
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 3: you know, I better be really good with that with

823
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,679
Speaker 3: that scoring club. I better be really good from eighty

824
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,079
Speaker 3: two yards and seventy eight yards one hundred and five yards,

825
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: and I am. And it's about technique and it's about

826
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 3: learned skills, and you do not. I think one of

827
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: the things that's great is just to be, you know,

828
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,639
Speaker 3: always have a ball upon the green. When that long

829
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 3: hitter gets to his shot and he's got that wedge

830
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,679
Speaker 3: in hand, he goes, This guy is just killing me

831
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,639
Speaker 3: with these six and seven and five urns into the green.

832
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:29,159
Speaker 3: He's twenty and twenty five feet fifteen feet all day long,

833
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: and you'll kill that guy because you know he's he's

834
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 3: always looking at a ball on the green, and you know,

835
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 3: whether you're playing and most club golf and amateur golf,

836
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 3: most of us play match play golf, and we keep

837
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: our scores for a handicap, but we play match play.

838
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 3: But you can learn good solid technique that will keep

839
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: your short arms and your approach shots and your scoring

840
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: club shots you know, around the hole and around the green,

841
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,159
Speaker 3: keep you out of trouble. Learn how to chip you know,

842
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,639
Speaker 3: and practice your putting, and you're a match for anybody.

843
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,199
Speaker 3: I don't care how far they hit it. I mean,

844
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,199
Speaker 3: Luke Donald used him. He was a perfect example, you know.

845
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: I mean Zach Johnson. I wrote a blog post about

846
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,039
Speaker 3: Zak Johnson when he won the Masters, and was that

847
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,559
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven or eight, And Zack Johnson, short

848
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: not a long hitter, went into Augusta with the game

849
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,119
Speaker 3: plan of he was not going to go for any

850
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:21,199
Speaker 3: par five and two and go back, and you read

851
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 3: that in the archives. But he made a decision going in,

852
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: and he practiced his wedge play, and he made a

853
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 3: decision he was not going to go for a par

854
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,079
Speaker 3: five and two. And everybody bombited at the par fives

855
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,159
Speaker 3: and two is one of the fun things about Augusta,

856
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: right on things we like watching the Masters. He scored

857
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: the par fives better than anybody in the field that week.

858
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 3: Better than anybody, never hit even tried to go for

859
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 3: one and two, never left himself even a chip shot

860
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 3: or a short pitch. He left himself good full swing,

861
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,159
Speaker 3: blob wedges and sand wedges into those greens, and he

862
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: dialed it in and he played the sixteen par fives

863
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 3: fourteen under or thirteen under.

864
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:01,639
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you when I played par fives, I

865
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:04,679
Speaker 1: rarely ever go for it and too because I just

866
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: I can't reach. So what I try to do is,

867
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, I look at my GPS and say, okay,

868
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:15,079
Speaker 1: I need to get to one hundred and twenty five

869
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: yards to the pin, you know, which is my forty

870
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: two degree score golf, you know, forty one sixty one,

871
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,639
Speaker 1: my forty two degree, And that to me, it's like

872
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:32,039
Speaker 1: it just it just makes me more confident if I

873
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: know that I can get to that spot on my

874
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: second shot to put it in a position to get

875
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:39,119
Speaker 1: close to the hole. Because to me, again, it's all

876
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: about turning three shots into two, right, right, And.

877
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,119
Speaker 3: I mean if you will go and you know, the

878
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: whole premise behind the score forty one sixty one is

879
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: to have the entire short end of your set all

880
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: be alike and you don't have a nine and a

881
00:41:50,519 --> 00:41:52,639
Speaker 3: pitch that looked like a six iron and then a

882
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,599
Speaker 3: sand and a gap and a lob that might even

883
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 3: not look alike. And the gaps are all off, and

884
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 3: the clubs are designed totally different. They launched them all differently,

885
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,199
Speaker 3: the shast different. You know what the whole concept behind

886
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: score forty one sixty one is, you have this synchronized

887
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,519
Speaker 3: set of scoring tools that are four degree gaps or

888
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,199
Speaker 3: three degree gaps or five degree gaps, whatever's right for you,

889
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 3: but that you know inside, you know that first scoring

890
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 3: club in your case, that's you're forty two. With me,

891
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,639
Speaker 3: I actually, I believe it or not. I actually have

892
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 3: some that are little tweaked, and I have a forty

893
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 3: one that I reground a bottom and I tweaked it

894
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: down to thirty nine. So I carry six scoring clubs

895
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: at thirty nine, forty three, forty seven, fifty one, fifty five,

896
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:37,159
Speaker 3: and fifty eight. And I know that inside that that

897
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,679
Speaker 3: forty one degree gop club with that forty one, which

898
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: is really thirty nine, that's my that's my one thirty

899
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:45,519
Speaker 3: eight club. At a normal full swing, it's one thirty eight.

900
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,159
Speaker 3: And that I know from one thirty eight all the

901
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: way down to seventy, that I can take a metered

902
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: full swing with my hands in a certain position on

903
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 3: a grip, and I feel like And I'm an amateur player, guys,

904
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,679
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a two three anticapper and at best,

905
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: and as I don't get to play as much, and

906
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: I'm older than I used to be, but I know,

907
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:10,559
Speaker 3: at least I feel like I know inside one point

908
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:13,119
Speaker 3: thirty eight I can, and even further out, even all

909
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: out in the six iron range. My game is all

910
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: about I know how to hit it that far, however

911
00:43:18,519 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 3: far that is. And if I if I lay up

912
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: and this is one oh three, I've got a one

913
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 3: oh five shot that's only six feet behind the hole.

914
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: That'll work. If I hit it to ninety seven, I

915
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 3: got a ninety five shot that's only six feet short

916
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: of the hole, and that'll work. And I know in

917
00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: my in my head, in my heart, I believe that

918
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:39,679
Speaker 3: I can dial it into two to three yard increments

919
00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 3: anywhere from seventy all the way out to one fifty

920
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,119
Speaker 3: one to fifty five, and then I let the increments

921
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: get bigger, because I mean, as I mentioned last week,

922
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: thirty feet longer, short, with that five iron is a

923
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 3: great shot. I mean sure, I love to, you know,

924
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 3: swing those five irons from one seventy one to seventy

925
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 3: two and knock them in two feet. And I do

926
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: it occasionally, but I'm not expecting that thirty fe longer

927
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: start from one seventy five. You know, I'll take it

928
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:11,159
Speaker 3: all day long. And so with every tour player, how.

929
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 1: Does all this information that you have in your head

930
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,519
Speaker 1: about technique and that you're helping us with, how does

931
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: that translate into the design of clubs?

932
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 3: Well, the way the way it translated I mentioned while ago,

933
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: I'm such a stickler for the short game, and I

934
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: backed away about three years ago. And I've designed wedges,

935
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 3: I've designed drivers, I've designed iron I've designed over one

936
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: hundred putters. But you know, I watch golfers struggle with

937
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,519
Speaker 3: their scoring clubs. And what I watch golfers happen is

938
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: they can't keep the ball trajectory out of the clouds.

939
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: You know, good players can hit those driving nine iron

940
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: and wedge shots and they know how, and they have

941
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 3: a good, good knee action and thing, but they're fighting

942
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 3: the golf club. If you think about the design of

943
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 3: a wedge and I talked about Hogan last week. Wedges

944
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,559
Speaker 3: haven't changed and in the way they look in fifty

945
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 3: sixty years, they have all the weight along the soul

946
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 3: of the golf club. Hogan said that a maximum sand

947
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,199
Speaker 3: wedge was forty yards. That's because he knew with all

948
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,639
Speaker 3: of that weight low, that's what made it a good

949
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 3: bunker club and a good club for pitching the ball.

950
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:19,039
Speaker 3: But that made it horrible full swing golf club because

951
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 3: you know, it loads the shaft too much. It's going

952
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,039
Speaker 3: to launch ball higher if you think about it. We

953
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:27,159
Speaker 3: put the weight low in our five and six iron

954
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: cavity backs, so the ball will go up in the air. Well,

955
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 3: when I get to that nine and pitch, I've got

956
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,039
Speaker 3: forty two to forty five degrees loft, it's going in

957
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 3: the air. I don't need all the weight low. So

958
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 3: what I know works, and it's indisputable. A thicker face

959
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,079
Speaker 3: makes the ball go more consistently on the same path

960
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: in the same distance. A higher center of gravity makes

961
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,079
Speaker 3: the ball drive off the club lower. So you know

962
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,199
Speaker 3: people talk about, you know, a low launch driver, will

963
00:45:55,199 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: they get the weight up high on that driver, Well,

964
00:45:57,159 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 3: you know, you don't really need a low launch driver.

965
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 3: We're trying to get the ball in the air. But

966
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 3: I want that nine at pitch and gap and sand,

967
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: the fifty one to fifty three, whatever you carry out there.

968
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: I want those balls to fly on a consistent trajectory

969
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: because the only way you know how far the ball

970
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,599
Speaker 3: is going is if it leaves the club the same

971
00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 3: way every time. Hogan was a big stickler for that.

972
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,639
Speaker 3: If you don't know the trajectory the ball's going to

973
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 3: leave on, then you really don't know how far it's

974
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: going to go. And I would tell your listeners every

975
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:23,079
Speaker 3: one of you has hit that shot and it's like, ooh,

976
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:24,599
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to get on this gap wedge a

977
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 3: little bit. So you swing a little extra hard at

978
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 3: that gap wedge. The ball goes higher and it comes

979
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,639
Speaker 3: up on the front of the green. You're going, God,

980
00:46:30,679 --> 00:46:32,559
Speaker 3: I thought I caught that really solid. Well you did,

981
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: But the increased clubhead speed with that low centegravity makes

982
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,559
Speaker 3: the ball go higher, not further. And if you want

983
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:42,519
Speaker 3: to hit that club further, actually come back off of

984
00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 3: it a little bit, keep their trajectory down, and the

985
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 3: ball is expending more energy going forward than it is

986
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,199
Speaker 3: going upward. I mean, if you have ball speed of

987
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,199
Speaker 3: one hundred miles an hour off the golf club, Okay,

988
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,039
Speaker 3: if that ball is going straight up, it's not going

989
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:56,639
Speaker 3: to go as far as if it's going out at

990
00:46:56,679 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: a thirty degree angle. I mean, it's got one hundred

991
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 3: mile hour balls, But where is the speed going. It's

992
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,039
Speaker 3: going up, not out. And so you know, if you

993
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 3: want to get really consistent with your short clubs, you

994
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,639
Speaker 3: have to have better trajectories. And yet we're dealing with

995
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 3: clubs that are given to us that have all the

996
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,559
Speaker 3: weight low, which makes it go too high. They have

997
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 3: a real stiff shaft that we can't load. That gives

998
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 3: us no feel. The club is not designed for what

999
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,199
Speaker 3: we're trying to do. And I said, you know, why

1000
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,079
Speaker 3: the hell is that? Why have we been sitting here

1001
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:28,159
Speaker 3: looking at the exact same wedge designs for fifty years

1002
00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 3: when drivers and irons and t's and shoes and balls

1003
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: and fairways and hybrids that don't look anything like they

1004
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,519
Speaker 3: did fifty years ago. But I mean, and I'll pick on,

1005
00:47:38,599 --> 00:47:41,159
Speaker 3: I'll use a brand name, Cleveland Golf, the number one

1006
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,079
Speaker 3: wedge company out there. They talk about their big deal

1007
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 3: for twenty twelve was the five eighty eight forged that

1008
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:49,639
Speaker 3: was the fifth wedge Roger Cleveland design who was introduced

1009
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty eight. And all you're going to do

1010
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:53,559
Speaker 3: is forge that club and you're going to tell me

1011
00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 3: this is new. I mean, Cleveland's I hear is not

1012
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,519
Speaker 3: doing well. I don't want to pick on them. Their

1013
00:47:57,599 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: lawyers are probably all call me for saying this, but

1014
00:47:59,519 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: the fact that.

1015
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,199
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's a members only show, I don't think they're.

1016
00:48:02,039 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: Lord Taylor, Made and Cowway and anybody in golf could

1017
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,519
Speaker 3: not get away with bringing a new driver to market

1018
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 3: saying this is a replica of what we made in

1019
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,079
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight. They'd be laughed out of the golf shop.

1020
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,039
Speaker 3: But why is it a good thing to recreate a

1021
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:19,159
Speaker 3: wedge from nineteen eighty eight? Really, twenty four year old

1022
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: design technology is the best you can do for my

1023
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:23,119
Speaker 3: short game? That angered me, and I said, you know,

1024
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 3: we can do better. I mean I started this three

1025
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,599
Speaker 3: years ago. But you know, if you treat your scoring clubs,

1026
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the other thing. I'm on a roll. Sorry,

1027
00:48:32,639 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: you got a nine in a pitch that were designed

1028
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: to look like a six iron, and they got the

1029
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,039
Speaker 3: stiffest chaft in the set and these are your feel irons.

1030
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense. Then you take a break

1031
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 3: and you go to this this wedge, your first wedge,

1032
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 3: which was picked out because you've always played a fifty

1033
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 3: two to fifty six to sixty so you have one. Well,

1034
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,159
Speaker 3: when you got that, you were playing a forty eight

1035
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: degree pitching wedge. Your new peak club has got forty

1036
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: five degrees. You got a big, massive gap there, and

1037
00:48:56,039 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: you got a Cleveland gap wedge and a bokey sand

1038
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,079
Speaker 3: wedge and a and a callaway lobweed somebody gave you

1039
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,199
Speaker 3: got this total mish mash right in the middle of

1040
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: money range. Why why would you go buy a sandwich?

1041
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: You don't go buy a seven iron. Why would you

1042
00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 3: buy a mismatch and a mish mash of golf clubs

1043
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: to try to dissect the golf course? Why wouldn't you want.

1044
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:20,559
Speaker 1: A because they're an advertising is so good?

1045
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 3: Terry, come on, well, because that's the way we've always

1046
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,519
Speaker 3: done it, and nobody's telling you different.

1047
00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: But I am.

1048
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,679
Speaker 3: But guys, I'll tell you. You know, if you spend

1049
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,079
Speaker 3: as much time and attention on the scoring clubs and

1050
00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 3: picking out the right ones and trying them and testing

1051
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,079
Speaker 3: them and getting the shafts right as you do with

1052
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: the driver. And you can buy a set of two

1053
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:41,119
Speaker 3: or three scoring clubs for what you pay for one driver.

1054
00:49:41,679 --> 00:49:43,599
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm just saying, move your money to

1055
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 3: where the action is. And you know they don't call

1056
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 3: the four iron the money club, but the wedges and

1057
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 3: butters are your money clubs. And I don't. I mean,

1058
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 3: I think wedges are old hat. I mean hybrids are

1059
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: new hat. Nobody wants to a two iron or a

1060
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: three iron in their bag anymore, even the tour player

1061
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,519
Speaker 3: reg rarely carry them because this thing called a hybrid

1062
00:50:02,639 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: is just stupid easy to hit, because it was designed

1063
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: to optimize ball flight off of an eighteen twenty twenty

1064
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 3: four degree golf club. That's what hybrids came from. They

1065
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: didn't say, if this works that good on here, why

1066
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,079
Speaker 3: don't we make a driver look like a hybrid. No,

1067
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,639
Speaker 3: we know this big four hundred and sixty c seat

1068
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,679
Speaker 3: thing with a deep face that works better at nine

1069
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,159
Speaker 3: to ten and eleven degrees loft, and then this other

1070
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,519
Speaker 3: club called a fairway metal. It looks it works better

1071
00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 3: when the lofts get into the thirteen to seventeen eighteen

1072
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,079
Speaker 3: degree range. And then this thing called a hybrid It

1073
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:36,039
Speaker 3: works better when lofts are you know, eighteen nineteen up

1074
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 3: to about twenty four degrees, maybe even twenty five or

1075
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: six for some players who have trouble getting the ball airborne.

1076
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:44,039
Speaker 3: And then this thing called a cavity back iron design.

1077
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:46,119
Speaker 3: It works better from the mid twenties to the mid

1078
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: thirties or a high thirty degree loft. But this thing

1079
00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: called wedges does not work that well in a high

1080
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 3: loft golf club. When because we use wedges as full

1081
00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: swing clubs now, they didn't. They weren't used that way

1082
00:50:58,039 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: when they were invented. And yet we change the way

1083
00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: we use them, and we didn't, and we didn't change

1084
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: the way they were built. Look at putters, Okay, putters

1085
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,039
Speaker 3: were always little blades that were pretty light. Because we

1086
00:51:10,119 --> 00:51:12,119
Speaker 3: were putting on greens that were slow and bumping. You

1087
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: had to wrap the golf ball and used a risty stroke.

1088
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: But as greens became faster, the technique became more of

1089
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 3: an arms and shoulders technique, and we moved the shaft

1090
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 3: to the center of the putter. The ping answer more

1091
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:26,639
Speaker 3: copies of that and probably every golf from of planet.

1092
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 3: Is that a ping answer or look alike. And then

1093
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: we found this thing called face balancing with the zebra

1094
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: and some of these the center shaft that's came out.

1095
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 3: Now you look at the most common putters out there,

1096
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,639
Speaker 3: these big branding iron looking things, because greens are still

1097
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: faster putting strokes are still more arms and shoulders driven,

1098
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: and so the equipment is adapting. And yet these thing

1099
00:51:46,119 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 3: called wedges are the same exact things we've been carrying

1100
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 3: for forty fifty years. It's absurd. It's just in a

1101
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:56,199
Speaker 3: technologically driven industry. I think it's absurd awesome. I'm sorry,

1102
00:51:56,199 --> 00:51:57,199
Speaker 3: I'll get a little on myself.

1103
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: Well listen, and I'm gonna we're gonna start wrapping this up.

1104
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:04,039
Speaker 1: But I do want to give you your fair shake

1105
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:08,159
Speaker 1: on answering this question, and because you kind of brought

1106
00:52:08,199 --> 00:52:13,039
Speaker 1: it up. But with your clubs, how do we know

1107
00:52:13,159 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: which one is right for us? And do we get

1108
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,519
Speaker 1: to try that? I mean, what's the deal with you guys?

1109
00:52:18,639 --> 00:52:21,199
Speaker 3: Okay, So we're offering a very interesting thing. We make

1110
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: twenty one golf clubs from forty one to sixty one degrees,

1111
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 3: make every single law and The reason we did that

1112
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: is because all your listeners out there have some of

1113
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,599
Speaker 3: them have nine iron and peak clubs with forty and

1114
00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:34,159
Speaker 3: forty five degrees or forty and forty four, or thirty

1115
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 3: nine and forty three or forty three and forty seven.

1116
00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:38,559
Speaker 3: There are no standards in our industry, so that club

1117
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:40,519
Speaker 3: with a P on the bottom can be anything. We

1118
00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: created a process called score fit. It's a little exercise

1119
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 3: you go through on our website. You load your irons

1120
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,159
Speaker 3: in the database and it comes out with your prescription

1121
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: of losts of what's going to give you consistent distance

1122
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 3: gapping based on the irons you play. And my contention

1123
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:57,119
Speaker 3: is if you're five through eight iron are probably fine,

1124
00:52:57,519 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, if you unless you just hate

1125
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 3: those irons and you and they're pretty new, they're probably fine.

1126
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 3: What you're trying for is you're trying to get the

1127
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 3: ball closer to the hole. And so what we do

1128
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: is we blend the right lofts to mesh into those

1129
00:53:09,039 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 3: middle irons. We put the right shaft in there to

1130
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,199
Speaker 3: give you is what I call a seamless transition and

1131
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 3: weight and flex so that you have a similar feel

1132
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 3: throughout your set. And then but our shafts are designed

1133
00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:22,639
Speaker 3: specifically for the scoring end of the set. You can

1134
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 3: go through our score fit process. It's a lot of fun.

1135
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:26,679
Speaker 3: You can call and talk to us. We have some

1136
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 3: great short game specialists that can counsel you right through

1137
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,679
Speaker 3: what ought to happen, how you ought to be carrying it.

1138
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: And we're not trying to sell more clubs than you need.

1139
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 3: I mean, if you've got a short hitter, you can

1140
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,079
Speaker 3: probably get away with five degree gaps. Four degree gaps

1141
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:41,119
Speaker 3: work for most people. The key is to have those

1142
00:53:41,159 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 3: gaps consistent so that and then what we did is

1143
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 3: we built the in our twenty one degree range of lofts,

1144
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,119
Speaker 3: there are seven distinctly different head designs. So the head

1145
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,519
Speaker 3: actually morphs a little bit, if you will, as loss

1146
00:53:54,679 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 3: increase or decrease, so that the weight management is optimized

1147
00:53:58,039 --> 00:54:00,639
Speaker 3: for that narrow three degree range of loss. So the

1148
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,039
Speaker 3: head design that's on the forty one, two and three

1149
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: is a little different than the one that's on the

1150
00:54:06,039 --> 00:54:08,199
Speaker 3: forty four, five and six, and that's a little different

1151
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 3: than the forty seven, eight and nine, and it morph

1152
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,559
Speaker 3: says it goes up to the high loft globe, so

1153
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:16,119
Speaker 3: that we actually dissected those and created seven head designs

1154
00:54:16,519 --> 00:54:19,519
Speaker 3: to optimize ballflight with each club in the set, rather

1155
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 3: than say they all have to look alike.

1156
00:54:21,679 --> 00:54:24,519
Speaker 1: And so if I order one of these clubs from

1157
00:54:24,559 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: you just to try it out as opposed to doing

1158
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: a full set, and it doesn't work for me, I

1159
00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:31,199
Speaker 1: don't like it, what's my next step.

1160
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 3: Well, we have two things. We have a free trial program.

1161
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 3: We'll build one of your set, send it out to

1162
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 3: you for thirty days and let you hit it, let

1163
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,199
Speaker 3: you see the feel, the performance, and then we can

1164
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,559
Speaker 3: fill in the rest of your set. If you don't

1165
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 3: like it, you send it back, or you can say

1166
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 3: you know, I know I'm going to like these, and

1167
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,199
Speaker 3: we can build a set of two or three, or

1168
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,599
Speaker 3: four or five for you, and if you don't like them,

1169
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: you send them back and we'll go buy you anything

1170
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,039
Speaker 3: else in the market you think you'd like better.

1171
00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:57,679
Speaker 1: Wow. Well, listen, Terry, what's really exciting is you're coming

1172
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,519
Speaker 1: back for the next episode. Yeah, we're going to be

1173
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: here for a while, right, We're going to launch our

1174
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: short game Academy. So I want to remind everybody again,

1175
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: clearly Terry knows more about our golf game than we do.

1176
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: And he has opinions on every question that's answered, and

1177
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:18,599
Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? He could be right wrong. Listen,

1178
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: as we say about a friend of mine, always sure

1179
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: sometimes right there you go.

1180
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:25,639
Speaker 3: Well, my opinion is I'll always give you something to

1181
00:55:25,679 --> 00:55:28,199
Speaker 3: think about and try right exactly. And I mean my

1182
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 3: goal is to help golfers play better golf. And I

1183
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,199
Speaker 3: think that you know what we're doing with our equipment

1184
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 3: company is that we're a small company. We have no

1185
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 3: delusions of becoming a giant.

1186
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: You know.

1187
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: We can build sets of clubs for a few thousand

1188
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: golfers a year, and that's the way we do it.

1189
00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:43,679
Speaker 3: Our whole procedure is modeled off of the old tour

1190
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,159
Speaker 3: room at Hogan when I was there, and we build

1191
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 3: clubs one set at a time. We do not have

1192
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: stock golf clubs. Every order we do is a custom order. Wow,

1193
00:55:51,199 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 3: even if you want standard standard, last standard, lost standard grip,

1194
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,079
Speaker 3: you're going to still get it built custom, right next

1195
00:55:56,119 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 3: to the guy that wanted, you know, a half inch long,

1196
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,199
Speaker 3: two degrees flat, and two raps on the under the grip.

1197
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 3: They're all built custom. That's why I think golf clubs

1198
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 3: ought to be built. We take great pride in what

1199
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,519
Speaker 3: we do is and great craftsmen in there building them

1200
00:56:08,039 --> 00:56:11,039
Speaker 3: and like the product. So you know, it's just a

1201
00:56:11,199 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 3: it's a passion, it's a love of mind. We have

1202
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: no delusions of slaying any giants. But what we do

1203
00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 3: have great dreams of helping people build better golf games.

1204
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 3: And we get emails and phone calls every day that

1205
00:56:21,559 --> 00:56:23,599
Speaker 3: we're doing that, and that's that's the gratifying thing.

1206
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,119
Speaker 1: Terry. We'll talk to you on the next episode. Thanks

1207
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 1: again for this is awesome. I've got three pages of notes.

1208
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: It's amazing. And because there's things I have friends I

1209
00:56:33,519 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: have to go. You know what, you have to listen

1210
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: to this episode because he's talking to you specifically. It's

1211
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,599
Speaker 1: really interesting. Okay, so much of that is so valuable,

1212
00:56:41,639 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: but he's not. You're not given lessons, but you're reminding

1213
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:46,119
Speaker 1: us of things that we constantly forget.

1214
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: Right, So thanks Bud Well, thank you. I look forward

1215
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 3: to the next episode and starting to answer reader questions

1216
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 3: or listener questions and hopefully we can help improve the

1217
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:56,679
Speaker 3: short games out there.

1218
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Speaker 1: H