Speaker 1: Hell, ladies and gentlemen, welcome the September fifteenth, twenty twenty
five edition of Dress Told July and your host Tress Now,
and I'm here.
Speaker 2: It is Monday. I hope everyone had a good weekend.
I'm all tired. Long weekend. We went to wedding, so
let's traveling and tons of fun of the wedding, some
funny stories that I'll tell the next originals. But yeah,
and then one of.
Speaker 1: The babies is sick, so you know they haven't took
some sleeping, so I don't have the maybe hootspots usual.
Speaker 2: Bye, am here keeping it going on the new Uh,
I don't know. I guess it's weekly. What do you
call it?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Two times a week?
Speaker 1: I guess weekly just sounds nice you speople to say
bi weekly or monthly, you know, but I can't.
Speaker 2: So just two times a week for Dress Sold you
you know, we'll go back. All the episodes are there
this week. What else do we got going on?
Speaker 1: We got to the alienor of penultimate episode, We got
V starting, we got Peacemaker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want to see I probably will get around to
seeing it at some point, as you guys know, I
talk about a couple of weeks ago, my two most
anticipabe movies, one from like the quality wise one that
opted another and just the pure favor as far as
the trailer as the concept, big bold, beautiful journey. I
want to see that. My plans is trying and see
that on the Thursday or Friday for the Monday next week.
Tre has told you, But I don't think it's gonna happen.
We'll see what. We'll see what happens. But it's that
of course at a theater that's like farther and it's
just a pain so I can get there. I just
don't know. It's one of those times I want to
get there in general. But we got After nine that's
coming back this Friday check out, which I'm happy because
we haven't done like a proper After nine in a while.
Speaker 2: So I think we're going to talk about.
Speaker 1: Like maybe our favorite and most disappointed movies this summer,
just whatever's been going on, because it's been like the
Trivia or different stuff.
Speaker 2: We had a couple of movie nights. We'll be excited
to get back to that.
Speaker 1: But then I got two things of wrestling of course
all out and uh god, Wrestle Palooza on Saturday, So
check out Sunday the Gimmick.
Speaker 2: We'll be back, I think.
Speaker 1: Right now we're looking at eleven am PST, so look
out for that.
Speaker 2: That's a big show.
Speaker 1: We're trying to do the Tron retro, so we got
lots going on right now. Look at my schedule, I
literally don't see a day at least if it would
have been the Thursday or Friday and I could see
it later, that'd be fine, But just I hate when
I get that notification that's the theater it's at.
Speaker 2: So we'll see. But yeah, the next couple of weeks,
as I talked about, gen V is starting this week,
so check it out because we are going to I
think we're gonna review at least episodes one, like we're
reviewing the batch that's one to three, and then probably
episode four and then we're gonna see how they do.
Because we talked about this before that we love.
Speaker 1: You know, the boys, we like doing those general gen
V reviews. I end up liking that show a lot
more as it went along. But as we've said before,
we just got so much stuff up until about.
Speaker 2: I really think it's extra life.
Speaker 1: But even past that, right, because Extra Life we will
be doing a little bit later this year on I'm
started the official promotion or anything, but November eight we'll
be doing that for Exture Life or twenty four hour stream.
But then even then it kind of quite damn but
not really, it's not until December really, like even like
there's running Man, we got Nights Out threes happening. We
got a couple other things like we're filming, we got
a concert we're going to. We got lots of stuff
that we're gonna be pre recording because a lot of
people will be busy at the start of next year
just with trips and personal stuff, so we're trying to
pre record everything in the draft. So yeah, we'll see
what's gonna happen with just everything in general, but that's
gonna happen. So that's the sposis. I can't seen any
trace for the Big Bull Big Bull Journey until recently,
and honestly didn't look very interesting. Maybe the trailer was
just lame. Wow, where's the band button? Uh see, Yeah,
I guess that's all like different strokes for different folks, right,
Because I see that, and I love that idea because
I think I've talked about this before. I love the
concept and some of that probably bugged me a lot when
I was younger. But I think everybody's dealt with the
what if. And I think you know, who knows, SPO's
maybe you get old, but just when there's so much
stuff that happens in life. Luckily, I thought when I
was younger, there's.
Speaker 2: A lot of what ifs. You're like, oh man, you
like stress over now as you go along?
Speaker 1: You okay, not that I only happen for a reason,
but all kind of works out. But I think that
idea of I don't think it's a what if that
they can change things, but the fact that you go
back and just see different perspectives or just even overtime
memory changes. I like obviously calling Farrell Marko Robbie. So
I'm in there visually there looks gonna be some good stuff.
So and I think for me, I love movies about time.
Speaker 2: Life of Chuck.
Speaker 1: I guess you know, sorry, Hashians of that love movies
like about time, not movies about time. I guess that's
why I like the Nolan movies. But movies that just
make you feel good. Life of Chuck happened earlier this year,
everything everywhere at once, you know, so I love dark
and depressing horror stuff, but when those are done well,
that's like a subgenre I really like.
Speaker 2: So do I think it's gonna do well? Probably not.
Let's see.
Speaker 1: It was the trailer that really it was more of
the trailer really to me, the narration music feel very
generic twenty ten. I wonder which one you saw, s
Bubs because I haven't seen this second trailer. I've seen
the first trailer, which I really like. I like there's
that Gracie Abrams song and has like it's like an
epic version. So yeah, either way, I want to see
it in theaters and support because I don't think it's
gonna do the greatest.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about box office.
Speaker 1: Weekend had a big box office for an unpredicted movie
up until like a couple of days before and tracking
Blue through the roof.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so we'll see either way, I'm gonna see
that at some point.
Speaker 1: If I don't see it, like within the realm of
that week, I'll talk about when I do my year endless.
But I will be seeing it, and I want to
see in theater. I just worry that if it doesn't
do well, and there's lots of stuff coming on October November.
It's gonna get bumped, so hate that when it's like
a theater more out of the way.
Speaker 2: But we'll see.
Speaker 1: Luckily, I know one bath at one battle after another
is at the theater that's close to me, but same thing.
Speaker 2: Because it's a busy like a couple of weeks. Now
I have to see it. I think the Thursday, because
I think it's.
Speaker 1: The Thursday, when uh it's next week, right, And Peacemaker
that's episode six, and we've heard those rumblings of episode
like the last three are really good or really supper,
So I could skip Peacemaker and do that, but I
want to see that episode. But then it's like two
forty and like seeing that maybe like ten pm, Like
I don't know, it's it's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: That one I will see because that one's a bit
easier for the week, and one than I got Ellie's birthday.
It's it's been a busy time, like summer was busy,
but it's very busy fall.
Speaker 2: But yeah, check all the stuff we got going on.
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rip it. Today we're talking about some Batman two details
with Sophia Va, Count Cone, Thalt Cohen and some other
details like just little stuff, some speculation.
Speaker 1: That's been going on right the box office breakdown, uh,
Piaramont trying to buy Warner Brothers. I'll probably tie that
into the Batman stuff because we talked about that a
little last week and then funny like the next day
that kind of came back up then because I think
it was it might have been Aaron in the chat
somebody asked me about Batman Part three and I was like, well,
there's a big reason why I don't know anything that's
gonna happen, because we don't know anything's gonna be right.
And then if we have time the movie news, I
want to get to last week with conjuring in a
Jurassic World and whatnot.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I hope everyone's doing well. Let's talk about this.
Speaker 1: There's no like quote to bring up, like I guess
there was a quote Matt Reeves office, who was at
the Emmys last night. I didn't watch the Emmys, but
I was not surprised by the studio. I think it
was won set the record for most Emmys won by
a new series. Wasn't surprised at all, I said the
mag after the second or third episode. I've said before
where the quality was there, And I just think the
genre was there. And I think because it's very inside
baseball Hollywood, I think a lot of people watch that
and feel relatable as far as there's stuff that were
outside the injury. We want industry and we watch, we go, oh,
I understand the reference the people inside. There's probably references
or there's probably situations that happened identical and they've just
changed the people's names. And there you go, right, And
then the Pit I picked that, and yeah, good for that.
I'm gonna watch The Pit before January. But obviously Penguin
was there, and funny enough, God, I.
Speaker 2: Always forget her name. What the hell's I know it's
a fiafl comes a character's name, but it's like Kristen
Milani or where is it here?
Speaker 1: I'll try to find it. My God, of course, Penguin Emmys,
but funny enough, so they confirmed, Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2: It's the first. Oh, because I searched Penguin Emmys. You
can tell us the fucking Monday, Kristin Maloney. I think
it's all you say either way. She won an Emmy
for Penguin, which was funny.
Speaker 1: Gets on the red carpet, bat Rees was asked about,
you know, Penguin and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the other things, he said.
Speaker 1: But I asked Sposa for Cone specifically and said, oh, unfortunately,
she's not in it.
Speaker 2: And he said something like he said that, oh, you
know when we were.
Speaker 1: Which is kind of funny because like, Penguin's was written
and been out for a while, and he's like, oh, well,
we're in the middle of deep in the writing of
the Batman too, and we're already passed by the time
that character was introduced and couldn't add her in, right,
I think the script's been going on for so long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I said. Write the script for four
years in camp fit her in absolutely right Now, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a completely lying to us, right.
I think like he probably has an idea and it's
this thing of that certain character with what they've gone
through and how they relate or could relate to Batman
wouldn't work here.
Speaker 2: So it's not force feeded in, right, So I do.
Speaker 1: Get that, but the idea that you couldn't fit her
in at all, My hope is that even though it
would be like a cameo if you go to Arkham
something like that. I think the other thing to me
is that, yes, it's been eighty four years.
Speaker 2: That's what was.
Speaker 1: A funny thing for Like, I think he should just
said like, hey, we have specific story with specific characters,
and that character didn't quite fit in. But I hope
in the future because the good thing is the way
he talked about it. It's not like when there's the
foggy sony stuff or the figy like age and the shield.
Speaker 2: When they would talk on the past, you could get
the sense of.
Speaker 1: They really don't want to use them, where Reeve's like like, oh, yeah,
you know, you never know in the future, Like he
still sounded excited about that character. So to me, it
wasn't like a h you know, that character blew up
and you know it wasn't part of me. Like to me,
it sounds like Reeve's worked with the camera were last
but Laurence she was like the show runner and head
right on that show.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: They worked together, probably for the setup and probably here's
the through line to the series, and he agreed, Hey,
that works with my penguin. Probably some beats. And then
when all that all works, and to me, that strikes
me as like he's really happy about it because it
worked out well, probably likes the show galls a claim,
So it's like, why would you be mad about that, right,
which some people do. Some people don't want, you know,
if it is this weird thing. It's like, oh, well,
people like the thing that is in my world, but
something more because I've heard people say, oh, I like
Penguin more than Batman, right, which you know, I guess
I can kind of understand. But I'm just saying the
reception is you can tell sometimes when people there's some
kind of you know, professional jealousy there or annoyance where
this doesn't really sound like that, right.
Speaker 2: So to me, I think it does make sense for
what we've been hearing. Urn says.
Speaker 1: I've always thought that's Ifia receiving a letter from Selina
was more of a closure than a setup. I don't
think Reeves wants to do what marveled in directly connect
to TV show and movies.
Speaker 2: That's a good point if it's a close.
Speaker 1: I think the tough thing is though, like I, I think,
I think you could be right, but I think in
the world where he's doing, you know, he did a
TV show and they're doing part two and he said
he wants to do other TV shows.
Speaker 2: Right, you talked about that again yesterday.
Speaker 1: I think you kind of put out the idea that
that could happen. Right, So I didn't take Nassa as
a closure because I feel like the closure would have
been that note and maybe something definitive of I don't
want anything to do with you this or not, like
I don't know, like I because I guess you could
make the case she's not alone for me even the closure.
Speaker 2: And I know it probably is not cheap, but.
Speaker 1: Like the closure would have been Selena actually visiting Sofia
and the meeting and like, hey, I know you're alone here,
but like you always got me, and that's the closure.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You could argue that they do more, but I think
the note does feel more set up than closure.
Speaker 2: But Alvisoly, that's your perspective.
Speaker 1: I think, for me, the line that they're trying to
get to because I I think it's I guess it's
not owe like, let's say, we'll talk about it in
a second, but let's say that Batman Part three happens.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's not that it's odd, but the way that movie ended,
I really felt like Selena was going to be a
character in all three parts. But Ossie a couple of
weeks ago, when she was doing press, I should say
Zoe Kravitz, because you know multiple she's Zoi Kravitz was
doing press for Caught Stealing. Supposedly the word was that
press said, hey, don't ask about Batman two.
Speaker 2: She doesn't know anything about it because she's not in it.
Speaker 1: Ossie could just be a flank and a lie and
they just say, hey, I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 2: Let's just tell.
Speaker 1: Them this or it could be true, right, And to me,
that's another sign of okay, it just feels like smoke
and fire.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: If we hear that, and now Sophia is saying she's
not like that, Sofia's not in there. If Sofia was
in there, then I think clearly that there would have
been some.
Speaker 2: Selena stuff, right.
Speaker 1: I still think the line they're trying to get to
is okay. Feels odd to me that Selena's on all three.
Speaker 2: But if you're to.
Speaker 1: Say, and I've said this before, so sorry, I feel
have heard this, but if you go Selena's in the
Batman and then she's in in the Catwoman, Selena Kyle,
whatever you call the HBO show, and then part three,
that would make sense because with that you literally the
same way with the Penguin ending where he has the
purple suit and looking like the Comba version. You could
do the same thing where you go from that biker
leather cat woman outfit to like the catwoman outfit she'll
wear right to more of the thieving, more of the reputation,
all the stuff, more the backstory, everything right, and they
have like that's where it's like Penguin they keep like
it's funny where they keep.
Speaker 2: I don't know. With the Penguin season two, it feels
like they's like multiple hold ups where they all want
not all. I'll say the brass probably wants it.
Speaker 1: I think it did well obviously, emmy wise, it did
well ratings wise, like and the M's two like superhero
stuff doesn't get that much recognition, right, So that got
like nine Emmys and all this stuff, or I think
it was maybe nine Emmy wins because all the special
stuff and all these nominations, that's huge. HBO wants more
of that, I imagine, right, and already has built an audience.
Speaker 2: It like we even today the god who was it?
I don't know what they are.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what they're They have some titled
HBO I don't want a derail show here and talking
about like oh.
Speaker 2: They're well, they're kicking around ideas.
Speaker 1: We don't know yet, but they're working on something, right,
and Ian Reeve said that yesterday, like, oh, well, we
don't know for sure, but it's something we've discussed and
have ideas about. That's where I feel like Catwoman is
a better conclusion because he can act as a semi
season two because I think Colin Pararell, like he's most
of them, has said like, hey, it sounds like every
time they ask him, he does and in a like
one and done, like he makes it sound better, but
he does always resort too.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: If there is a story, that's great, but I don't
want to ruin anything and he's also spoken multiple times
of even the makeup, like with the Batman's different a
few days of shooting with the show, that's a lot
more right, and he's in that makeup all time. To me,
it just always feels like unless it is something great great,
or he's just like.
Speaker 2: God, what is it called God negotiating in the in
the public, right, that could be it. Maybe he's all
down for a season two.
Speaker 1: He can give a shit about the quality, but he
maybe wants I pay raise for doing all that makeup.
Speaker 2: Right, that could be it too.
Speaker 1: So that's where I think it's this weird push up
poll where every time we hear someone say, you know
that's gonna happen, and then we hear someone that's not
gonna happen, or whether it's calling. And even the show
was in the mini series, right, was in the continued series,
So who knows. I think that's why cat would work
because you could get Calling in there for an episode
or two.
Speaker 2: You got Sophia in there, you have Catwoman, who was
alluded to. You could also bring back Mark Strong to
pay play Carmine and Falcone to give more flashbacks. Right,
you could literally do the flashback.
Speaker 1: Of that scene where you know, the night where Slena's
mother gets killed, right, Like, There's tons of stuff you
can do, so it's kind of adjacent.
Speaker 2: But then at the same time, I like it's it's
tough because.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's the elf in the room with the James
gun stuff, right, and I guess, like, I'll bring this
all on, I'll put into one story, right. So with this,
it did not surprise me that she was not gonna
be in this movie. People brought up she's more of
a TV show character. I don't think that Reese is
opposed to using her in the future if it works out.
I think he does just have a specific story that
he doesn't want to change, and I do think he
was refining a lot that Obviously there's rumors about there's
other personal reasons why the script didn't get finished, and
there were some delays and everything, right, So I think
it's a combination of many things.
Speaker 2: So put that out of it.
Speaker 1: WB right now is apparently going to be bid on
by Paramount, which obviously a lot of things would happen
because that's gonna take time. I think technically they can't
put in the offer till next year. That could also
give other companies opportunities because.
Speaker 2: I think was it someone in the chat let me know,
when Disney bought Fox, someone else was trying to get them, right.
I think it was Universal.
Speaker 1: Maybe, but there was something where Disney put in a bid,
someone else bit and they had to put their bid up.
Speaker 2: Right. So just because we heard this news last week
doesn't mean squaw like it.
Speaker 1: And it also has to be approved, you know, not
gonna talk politics. The person that is the head of
Paramount right now good friends with a lot of people
that would get that approved.
Speaker 2: It's gonna get approved.
Speaker 1: We've had Sony like ten fifteen years ago. I'll say
even twenty of all these big corporations can't buy all
this stuff because it becomes a monopoly.
Speaker 2: That's already happening, right. The fact that if this happens,
we'll have four major not counting the streamers, not counting
you know those, because not all of them do theatrical stuff.
Speaker 1: We'd have Paramount, Sony Disney, and I feel like I'm
missing one and Universal.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Sony Disney or Mount.
Speaker 1: Universal four only four major studios. That sucks, man, that
really sucks.
Speaker 2: Obviously.
Speaker 1: That's why I always try to see the A twenty
fours and the Neons, because we do need to have
these other companies grow and get bigger, so they'll we
get some good mil tier stuff and hopefully that they
don't just fucking get bought up by the big companies
as well, because that could happen, right, So, Aaron, thank
you Universal Concasts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they they up the bid, right, so that
could happen.
Speaker 1: This is still ways off, But that's why, Aaron, because
I refer to earlier when you and other people talk
about the Batman three every thing. Once this happens, let's
just say it happens, right, Paramount gets him, everything is
gone to the wind. We have no idea this guy
can sit down meet with James gunn whatever. I'll just
say the guy and has seems to meet with James
gun and they just go.
Speaker 2: I actually don't like the idea he's going. I think
he's an asshole.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's an ass but you know what
I mean, like studio heads and people like that, and
just rich people in general. Can I'm not gonna say,
be weird, but just be bull headed because off c
you talk about this guy else and I think he's
either next to Musk or he's just passed much. Musk
as the most richest person in the world right owns paramount.
If James Gunn or Matt Reeves pitches him something and
he doesn't really want to do it, he can just say, well,
look at my tracker and I don't know anything about
this guy.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But if you were to talk to like I know
more about Musk, Musk inherited a lot of that money,
He's not gonna just go, oh, well, you know that
all that money.
Speaker 2: You know, none of these ideas of mine were good.
Speaker 1: So what I think most people hold themselves to a
high degree and think, well, what I think is best? Right,
So I've said this, I said this example before last week.
Where what if because Zas also said this, what if
the paramount person does feel, hey, I actually don't want
to Batman? You know you film Batman Part two? I
do think, as Tap asked me this, I think Batman
Part two is safe. It's gonna film before this goes out.
I don't think it would be like a back Girl
situation because that has money track record to back it up.
That movie made seven hundred and seventy million whatever. That'd
be odd to throw that way where Backrel was in
this weird thing of it was in the cast in
between two universes. It was a you know, new director,
new actress, new ip in a sense, right like back
Girl has been a movie's been, not a movie. I'm
not I wish that still happened. I still don't think
it would have mattered if hey put on HBO Max
make some like get something back and I guess they
felt like the write off was worth it, right, But
to me, it's like, for the sake of artists, put
that out there and deal with the universe stuff later, right,
But I digress. So we really don't know. And it's
the same thing with Reeves. I think he's walking on
a tight rope because he's talks about all these things
he wants to do, like people ask him like, oh,
those other characters we want to explore.
Speaker 2: But he's smart where he goes well.
Speaker 1: Right now though, our focus is on the Batman Part
two and then we'll figure that out after, right. I
I'm in the sense where where we are with DC, you,
I'll just say DC right where we are in general,
I've said before I love the idea that gun and says,
let's do else Worlds.
Speaker 2: And the mainline stuff.
Speaker 1: It does feel like he inherited a bit because the
Batman wasn't his idea. But if he's down to say, okay,
sure just do that and we'll do our own thing,
I am, like I said before, I'm against if that
changes because a gun, if he puts the guy bosh
on it, like to me, that's kind of him feeding
us up bill of goods, right, just to win some favor.
I've said before, if he finishes that, if he lets Reeves,
finishes the trilogy and the DC's popping off, Gun will
always have my support. Not gonna blindly just review everything positive,
but I'll say that guy said this was gonna happen,
even though sure he said some stuff that might be
a little stretching the truth. But this is a big one, right,
probably for myself, on other people that like read stuff,
and you know, for you know myself. I didn't love
Creature Commandos. I didn't love peace Maker, so or no
like peace Maker. Well, actually I don't love peace Maker either.
I wasn't on that last review.
Speaker 2: That last review it could have been or that last
episode could have been an email. We've had four.
Speaker 1: Episodes and two of them have I won't say been filler,
but near filler. I think last week was filler. It's
literally what you could do in a scene. They stretch
out to an entire episode, right, so so far that
there's nothing I would fail of Guns, But right now
I'm like, oh, I can't wait for what's next.
Speaker 2: I will lie. I guess I feel about Supergirl.
Speaker 1: That's more because the million all caught casting not so
much like the vision, right, But that's where if you
give people the option, Like myself, I'm less harsh on
the DCU because like, well, you're giving me the Batman
the type that I like, right, So for me, I
do say that leton finishold. On the other side, though,
with the TV shows, I think that's trickier. I think
that's harder. And I would understand if Gun said, like, hey,
like I don't want you to do like a Catwoman
show or This Time show, because though these are films
I do want to use in that and it's like,
I'm already worried about Batman being saturate enough. I don't
know if I want to be like, now there's two Catwomen,
there's two Baines, there's two mister freezes, you know, again
they could talk about I still think there's a world
where you could say, hey, what are you gonna use
and I'm gonna use something else if they do do
Brave in the Bold.
Speaker 2: I don't know all the villains.
Speaker 1: They would use, but based on some that run some
for like if they wanted to go the route of
how Damian was introduced Talia, which I don't think.
Speaker 2: James Gunnas or Matters is using. So you got Talia
and Roswill go.
Speaker 1: Right there, and then on the first little bit of
that run Man Bat and some things about Man Bat
were used.
Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil in case they do do
in the film. That's two things.
Speaker 1: I don't think Man Bat is popping up in The
Batman Part two, right, So that's where I think, to me,
that is very easy if you could sit down and say, hey, yeah,
sure go make a cat.
Speaker 2: Onoean show, because we're not gonna introduce Catwoman for a while.
Speaker 1: But I think it's that thing when we heard the
scuttle butt of clay Face maybe in the Reeves script,
and then they wanted to make a movie, and then
it was set in the Reeves universe, and then it wasn't.
That's where I think starts to get tough. But I
guess also for me, it's just tough because like that
has so many.
Speaker 2: Rogues and characters.
Speaker 1: It's like you can't like you have to use this
for either one for Gun or reef Right to be
like you have to like any of you being like
you have to do that.
Speaker 2: But luckily I'm hoping that they gotta be a relationship.
They can talk on stuff out right.
Speaker 1: But to me, the shows are a bit more like, Okay,
we're starting this universe, you don't want to be a
part of that.
Speaker 2: We respect that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you the movies, but the shows that
might be pushing a little because the HBO slots or
HBO Max if DC is only getting a few of them.
I feel like Gun's gonna be like I want that
for my stuff, which I kind of agree, right, because
it's a whole connected universe. As much as I love Penguin, right,
I would love to be Catwoman show.
Speaker 2: I think that'd be phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I think that's uber potential, especially with Zoe Kravitz, especially
the world they set up. But if you gotta be
picking and choose, I'm still gonna pick the trillsy right.
So it's it's very it's very tough where they are
with all this, and I think they're all it's much
like when Superman came out. There's a bunch of rumors
or stuff being announced, right, And to me that was
because maybe they said you gotta hit the certain amount
and then go. And we heard rumors of a Jimmy
Olsen show and then even started to talk about the
Superman two. You know, we got mad to more like
it felt like that was for them a hit and
now we can move forward. I think much Aaron's point here,
which you're gonna bring up, I think both everything's just
kind of in. I think it was already in like Limbo.
I think even more.
Speaker 2: So now if w be gets bought, because we have
no idea was this guy just wants to start over completely,
like this is the thing where we live in the world.
Were in phase two Marvel when they were fucking rocking
and rolling. Uh, Foggy wanted to make a Captain Marvel
movie in a Black Panther movie. I can't remember where
it was, but he was supposed to be introduced early
on the MCU and I Pearl Mutter, who was underball
Biger put the kebash on that because I think he
tried to say it in a lass racist, sexist way,
but he pretty much just implied, like the rumor, the
alleged rumor was that like women and people of color
don't sell toys, right, and that's why we don't.
Speaker 1: Want make those movies. And it's like, oh my, especially
like thinking about what Black Panther would become. It's like,
man want to take but there's there's so many people
like that in stitio heads right in creatives and so
the same thing. It's like both Matt Reeves and James
kinda could sit down with this guy or this team
and be like, you know what, we don't actually want
to do any of this.
Speaker 2: We don't like this UNI verse. What if they're like me,
We're like, I don't like the DCU. We can start over.
I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: If you're presenting DC like this great start, lots of
people love it. Keep going forward. See what happens right
save with the Batman, but we we really don't know.
So that's where we have to see how the Superman
sequel does. You gotta see if a builds or drops,
because what if it drops? There's a case of this
is a very little degree, right, But look at Megan
and Megan two. Everyone has these different theories of why
because it wasn't whore because the release date. Mine is
more of I didn't really enjoy Megan one, so I
was gonna go back to the theater to see Megan two
no matter what they changed about, right, And I end
up liking Megan two more than Meghan one. But you
only had one chance. So what if, like as I
talked to, like Emily when we watched it, she did
not enjoy Superman. There's somebody else I talked to recently
that did not enjoy Superman. And that's where it's just like,
and I've talked to other people that loved Superman or
thought it was just okay, kind of like myself. That's
the thing where what if Superman, you know, comes out
Superman two, which Michael says another good point too, And
I'll bring up right now and Aaron, I'll get your
pointing it there in a second. If the deal goes
down before Supergirl, that put that put more pressure on
that movie to doing well the box offs even more
than Superman. I agree, and what happens if we get
to a situation where Supergirl comes out underperforms, And that's
the thing of is it the character, is it the actress?
Is the quality of the movie? Is it this universe?
Because like I said, what if people saw Superman and
sure it did, like it's still gonna be top maybe
top ten in the year, like I think it did
to me, I would classify as.
Speaker 2: Good, which is good nowadays because anything could bomb. Right,
So the fact of like.
Speaker 1: If let's say Superman of Tomorrow comes out and it's
on a Superman sequel, which's why I think they'll retitle it.
What if it underperforms or does lesser than and then
the Batman blows up? Like aaron'says, right here, if Batman
Part two makes a billion, I wonder how Paramount will
handle Batman.
Speaker 2: Would they be okay with too Batman at the same time? Right?
Speaker 1: And what if they just what if they did that?
What if that happens and they go to Gun and
they say gun and Reeves I send them down and say, hey,
we don't want to Batman figure this out, and rees says, well,
I said I want to be exclusive. That would be exclusive,
and you know, and James makes his pitch and they
look at the box office of Superman and Batman and
they go, well, you know what, Gun, Uh, you can't
use Batman for now, you have to use other I'm
not saying they would do this, but I'm saying any
scenario right, they say, we're gonna let Reeves do his stuff.
We're gonna let him do shows, We're gonna do whatever.
And you know, brain Bold that can be delayed. We
don't even want you to put him in the Just League.
We want nothing until Reese is done. And what happens
if that's what happens, if it's the same thing as
last time we're Reeves.
Speaker 2: I don't think we would.
Speaker 1: But let's say it takes five years, so we get
this in twenty twenty seven, fingers crossed, hopefully right, And
then let's say we don't get Batman Part three till
two thousand and thirty two. Then mean a gun is
sitting there and he can't use Batman for another five
years at all, and anything right. Again, I don't think
these would happen, but you never know what someone might think.
Who they might be talking to. Friendships, non friendships like rivalries,
you don't know right, and s vice versa. I've said
this before, like I hope it being gone for so
many years, the Batman two will do better or the
same as BATMANE.
Speaker 2: But what if people have moved on?
Speaker 1: What if people like I don't need like right, they're
doing another one. I like there's a moment where you
can miss the window of hype, or sometimes the window
of hype like dies down and you bring it back
because it's been gone so long and you never know.
With each project, I feel like it's different. We'll have
to read the room right, the same way as for
No Way Home. People fucking loved seeing you know, Toab
maguire and Andrew Garfield back and they didn't even know
Michael Keaton. People didn't really care unfortunately. Right, I'd say,
like to a mass degree, right, And there's a lot
of other stuff that went with the flash but still
didn't matter, right, and then Hugh Jackman that happened.
Speaker 2: So I really don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that's where it's gonna be interesting everything super Girl,
Box Office, Superman, Box Office, Batman, what happens with Paramount,
Like that'll be the thing too, Like when Paramount gets
bought they'll do interviews and we're gonna find out what happens,
right Like.
Speaker 2: They'll say a few things, and we really don't know.
Speaker 1: And that's why for me, I'm going to enjoy Get
the Batman Part two because I can't be guaranteed that
three is happening. Like if you were asked me, i'd say,
especially now the buyout, I don't think so, you know,
I really again, I don't know. I even I think
at least depends what paramount decides a success. I think,
at least with the way the DC is going right now,
they would look at it be like, let's keep that,
but what if what if Lantern comes out bad reviews,
clay Face comes out bomb, Supergirl comes out bombs, and
again Reese's stuff is popping off, and they might go,
you know, we don't need to do this other DC
stuff right now, or we don't want connected stuff, just
do let's get all tours, let them do what they
want to do and bring that back.
Speaker 2: Because that could be the case. Right they could see
Matt Reeves.
Speaker 1: Who I would consider a tour and say, you know what,
that's working more than this other stuff. The universes, the connections,
the TV shows and the animation. Let's just make a
you know, god, let's just make a wonderful movie. But
we're gonna give it to Emerald Fennel. And I wouldn't
even want that. Actually, I would just to see the
internet and see what happened, because I wouldn't care. It's
like we got great one when movie best, I mean,
like what they're like, let's give it to somebody that's
gonna make some of them pop. Right, So we have
no idea because we we we can't when money is involved,
you don't know people's negotiations. We talk about this with
wrestling all the time, right when people become free agents.
Speaker 2: You don't know.
Speaker 1: With WWE, that's like this big dream company, and so
many people grew up with, Like my dream is to
work there, no matter what I get paid, I want
to work there. Where some people are money's driven off.
Pay me whatever you want as long as you're top,
like Biller, I'm gonna go with you. Some people are
about the match call. You're like, oh, I can only
wrestle for this promotion because I can go for forty
minutes instead of five minutes on TV.
Speaker 2: I'm going there. So with people that are someone.
Speaker 1: That's a multi billionaire and he's the head of a corporation,
and I don't know much about them. And even then,
I like, I'm not a billionaire.
Speaker 2: I'm not that.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know what runs through their mind,
what they consider to be the right or wrong moves right,
So I don't know, and none of you know either.
All of us are predicting the same.
Speaker 2: Way when people talk about gun and Reeves and passed
and that never happening. All takes is one day for
them to change your mind, say yeah, we all sat
down together and this is the best course option. And
you go, well, James, you said that about braking the bull.
Speaker 1: Oh well that's when he literally could say, well, at
that point, Reeves, he could literally say the best quote
about that would be.
Speaker 2: Matt Reeves making a Batman movie in the.
Speaker 1: DCU is the best option. But he said that was
not what he wanted to do right now, so I
had to find the second best option. Now, the best
options back on the table. I'm going with that because
guess right, whoever, guess what, whoever this mysterious scriptwriter is,
They're still fucking getting paid. Even though I think it
could be gone, they're still getting paid. So if he
went hired somebody, if he wanted to go, go hire
I don't know. Aaron Sorkin. I'm making Brave the Bull,
Please write me a script. Even if that movie never
gets made, he gets paid. Marlon Wains has said he
at times like I think it was at least a
couple of years ago, still gets checks from Warner.
Speaker 2: Brothers because a Batman returns. You know why, because whoever
as the agent was he was, he made a deal.
He got cast as Robin, and before they started filming,
they changed the script and they cut him, but.
Speaker 1: He was cast to be Robin, and he still looking up.
He's still get He gets paychecks for a movie he
was not even in. I'm sure they're not like huge,
but he's still getting paid somewhat right. So that's why
with anyone that talks and defend, it's like that's not happening.
Even with gun saying stuff, it's like, whether he's stretching
the truth, whether he's changed his mind, or whether he
outright lies, you can't take anything to it. And that
goes to everybody, right, I would have to know the man.
I will never believe Kevin Faggy when he says, you know,
we are definitely gonna pivot before, We're gonna pivot from
King before everything happened. Yeah, all right, I'm sure you were.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm sure you were, which because then I've
said before when we did that cast, if you were,
and then that shows you guys are creatively excuse me,
creatively compromised, because that's not new you would have done
in the past. Right, So.
Speaker 1: We just have to take the news as it goes,
and when things are filming, great, we see it there.
Let's see here if there's any more details that didn't
hit on.
Speaker 2: I got a whole thread here.
Speaker 1: A couple of quotes. Yeah, because this was the quote
about the university. He just said, the priority of the
moment has been getting the Batman too.
Speaker 2: Them prep. There are certain characters and certain things I
wanted to do. So I'm hoping now that's.
Speaker 1: In those conversations will begin again in earnest. We'd love
to do more things, but they'd have to be the
things that fit with with within whatever. Obviously non control
of all the business plans of DC, but I have
things I would love to do. So that was quote
on that and then what was this quote on.
Speaker 2: The direction here which.
Speaker 1: We're talking about a lot in the discord. Day joined
the discord. You know, we've had a couple bots joined recently.
I don't know what happened, let me back out here,
but okay, so I wish I had the full call here.
Things that this film does for his character, Batman and
Bruce I think have never been done before in this way,
which was again Maddie and it was some of Mike
you're talking about it. It is interesting and that's what
you do got to do with the Batman film nowadays, Right,
he's do something different, especially if there's gonna be another
Batman movie. What does that mean? That could fit into
a whole bunch of stuff. Right, This movie could be
said an Arkham Asylum, and that's never been done before, right,
I've said before. I do believe because there's been multiple
rumors throughout the years recently just happened again in August.
But the Robin stuff, right, I do think he could
be referring to that because what they did with Chris
o'donald in Forever and Batman Robbin was like that is
a five percent degree of what the actual dig race
and Batman relationship is like, right, so to get really
nitty gritty of being a father figure or adopting someone
else that is torn and broken, and overyone's casting the
adolescents kid, which yeah, sure'd be great, but I think
that is actually a very good possibility. I agree with
Mike as well because the other rumors we referred to
Hush as far as whether him being framed or being
on the run or something to do with the business,
that could be the aspect because if Hush is the villain,
if people don't know, many times he assumes the identity
of Bruce Wayne, literally has tech to make himself look
exactly identical to Bruce Wayne, which would be fun because
for Thomas Elliott, you can get like a super no name,
just great actor, and then if lots of the time
their face is Patson, you can just make pass and
play that role and that's great. Like I'd be completely
down with Passon's playing like the evil. You know, we
got the making seventeen, so maybe you want to avoid that,
but we know he could do it, right, So I
think you got that. You know, I know all people
joking about with the whole Superman aspect, I don't think
it's that, but I do think it's the Robin thing,
and I think it is just.
Speaker 2: I agree with people like Wayne Enterprises. The business aspect
could have a lot to do with that, but I
think the best two options. I would love it if
it was design, but the best two options are him
being framed and I guess it's in conjunction or right'd say,
and adjacent to that.
Speaker 1: It's similar but not the exact where I don't think
we've really had And I talked about this with The
Batman because I thought it was gonna go this way
and maybe it was setting up for that. We've never
had a film that's really fucked with a mess with
the identity of Bruce Wayne. So we track them all, right,
Joker doesn't know, like let's go from Burns Down. Joker
doesn't know Batman's you know, Bruce Wan, Great Penguin and
Katwan find out the end that movie, and you know
Max trek fud in that movie Great and Catwoman's it
does have a little bit to do with it, but
they are still separate. Catwoman, Batman, Sleena Bruce Up until
the end, right Batman Forever. Riddler does find out Bruce
Wayne's identity and that helps to okay, the third act
they crash the mansion, kidnap Robin and Nicole kimment great,
but again that just sets up the third act battle
where to jump all the way to the other one
dark Night rises, that sets as the first act of Okay.
Speaker 2: They find out Wayne as Batman, but that just gets
the Batman files. And then that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's used as a plot point. It's not
used ever, as the plot of a character. And I
thought that was gonna happen with the Batman. I thought
the Riddler was gonna know that Batman was Bruce Wayne,
and that the whole time that would be a big tussle.
That'd be an issue for Batman because how do you
take on that someone that could you know, frame you
do all this stuff could reveal their identity if you
don't Wan do X, Y and Z. So I do
think would the framing be playing with his identity? That
could be something that would work very well.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I trust Reeves.
Speaker 1: He said that passing like the script and thought was great,
So like I didn't, I didn't really have any doubts there.
I feel like, if you like the first one, they're
gonna be pretty.
Speaker 2: Entire like into like maybe as some notes but I
I you know, kind of like a nothing burger quote,
and this will be nothing burger to them. It just says, hey,
we're keeping the plot in the wraps. We'll have to see,
we'll see when casting happens. Because now first it was
all they're shooting in the spring, and then it was March,
and then well it's April, and now it's like, well
it's a.
Speaker 1: And a April, whole beginning of May, like it always
just feeling good moves around. I'll just be excited when
so those cameras role. I do wonder because we have
what October November if I still don't think we're actually
hearing anything of casting till next year. But the only
chance to me would be October November. The script's growing
out now off, so you'd start building sets, you do
stuff if you'll don't know, lots of times, especially in
closer to the Christmas, but lots of times the December, the
town in Hollywood go was like very quiet.
Speaker 2: It's known.
Speaker 1: It's like that's the time that people are taken off.
And then it's kind of like once New Years happen,
they go back to work.
Speaker 2: That's why I feel like getting the script making deals.
Speaker 1: If we don't hear anything by November, I don't think
you're gonna hear anything in December, right, don't unless unless
filming gets moved.
Speaker 2: Up, right, that's always a possibility.
Speaker 1: I think that you'll wait till next year, so there's
contracts and negotiations.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: It's it was super fun with the Batman, even when
we got like, oh it's uh because we got pulled
down out there was Jonah Hill.
Speaker 2: And there's somebody else like that'd be a fun thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do that another time to hit on some
of these other stories and whatnot.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'll go.
Speaker 1: I'll go because you know what, if we have to
pump those stories, we will because you never know. On
the Wednesday of any news, let's see Batman part or
Batman casting rumors. Let's see if I can just quickly
pull someone from the past.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, problem is I'd have to look at that
another day. Like God, some people, some people like they're
making like their DC one like cast Listen. The first
thing I see for Comic Resources is saying wit where
it's like, wow, you know, that's crazy. Even though this
is weird, Heriot Johnson was one of several backup traices
for Matt Reeves. That's crazy. Yeah, maybe I'll have to
Maybe I'll have to just save it and I'll have
to wait for like a evergreen, like a December when
it's quiet.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do like a favorite rumors or whatnot. I'll
put in the discoord patron of people just send me
like ones that they thought would have been good or
were interesting. But to that point, I remember when Jonah
Hill was being rumored for Riddler, and I was like, uh,
you know, and I get why he didn't do Penguin.
The rumor was he didn't want Penguin because there was
there's a bunch of other random people of room for
Penguin two.
Speaker 2: I can't remember we talked about all the but I
love cast rooms.
Speaker 1: I know people lots of a ton of times people
hate them. I know Chris and Brent were like that.
All of the Marvel stuff are like Fantastic four. It's like, oh, okay,
I'm just over already for me. I like that because
it's like fantasy sports injury draft news.
Speaker 2: Where it's like, oh, what's the case with this? Oh
who's in? Who's out?
Speaker 1: Because to me, when we do trivia on the movies
and we read who would have been in, it's fun
discussing that. Where the ones I get bored on was
when we had all the plot rumors of Spider Man,
where it's like, okay, we've talked about the fifth plot
rumor now, so it's like, what's going on here because
stuff like until that's actually announced, there's not much to dice.
Like you can dissect it, of course, but it's like,
are you dissecting it for nothing? Where if there's an
actor and talks for roll, there's your dissecting it for
a reason.
Speaker 2: What would be their take? Right? So we will see,
all right we talked about Yeah, let me just pull up.
Was there anything else I missed here?
Speaker 1: Let's see they've reason passed and believes been in the
first one. Yeah, sure, passing at the script they've entered
pre production. Yeah, we know that will show us Ie Batman, Bruce,
we've never seen before a lot of persons reason strikes. Yeah, discussion,
but Penguin two okay, yeah, no, I think we can
move on once we've finished this chat here and says
I think Batman doesn't consider Penguin a threat all. He
only went after him when he wanted to get rid
of there. I think he'll be in the background again
to part three when we're Batman Ignorism. But I think
Penguin will become a huge problem for Batman if they
make a third one.
Speaker 2: Um, yeah, I could see that. Pharaoh said it's tough though,
because he is like the penguin now, so I can
actually see him having more power and Batman think he's
a threat, but he just can't take him down yet.
But I could I could see that if we can
get to a third one. So I could see in trajectory.
So let's see the box office pull it up. So,
so I've said before, I am no like anime connoisseur.
I grew up not really liking the style of animation.
Liked it a bit more as I've grown up. But yeah,
let's do a little rundown here. So here's the top
ten of the box office this past weekend. So Demon
Slayer in Findycastle. I'm not gonna try to read the
Japanese stuff. Seventy million.
Speaker 1: This thing right now is project did to possibly get
past five hundred million. It could beat every Marvel.
Speaker 2: Movie of the year.
Speaker 1: That's what's crazy. That's where it's like, just I guess
to stop here. That shows so much stuff again the
box office. I try my best, but it is unpredictable.
As ever, a few years ago, this would never happen.
This shows also people.
Speaker 2: Which funny distribute your sony pictures.
Speaker 1: So when everyone was shitting on them for K Pop,
while they got Demon Slayer, that got them a lot
of money, right. I think this also just shows that
a changing of the time where there's tons of people,
Like anime has always been big, like I almost always
been very big for a long time, right, But I
feel like now it's a combination of you have people
my age and a little older growing up that loved
anime that will go out and watch it, and then
I sit it pre on my age, not that I
love anime, I'm not seeing Demon Slayer. And then I
also have kids that they've either passed down or just
bigger in the culture, right, Like this is a movie
that would have not been projected to like open that
high before and it did so good on it for
that that's very impressive. We'll see what the next couple
of weeks are like, but those projections right now for
the five hundred opening, that's good and hopefully the boys
won't listen to Trass told you because I'm definitely gonna
start looking for the Draft next year, the movie Draft.
I'm definitely definitely gonna start looking into some uh some
of these because, like NIE's a two in this, if
I would have had them, I could have made some good,
good money. So that's one of my strategies. But I'm
sure if they hear this, they might steal it, so
that's okay. I conjuring Last Rites twenty six million right
now a total gross. I think it's just the domestic
of one thirty one, but I think it's already at
three hundred million worldwide, so that's doing great. Downtown Abbey
the Grand Finale, eighteen million long Walk, eleven million, toy
story re release, a three point five million weapons still,
two point seventy oltes on bod Hamilton, two point two million,
Freak Your Fy two point one Again, that's doing really well.
This one sucks, but I was in the same position.
I just have time, but smile Tap to the end
continues one point six million.
Speaker 2: I don't get me wrong. When they announced that, I
was very excited about that.
Speaker 1: I you know, I and I didn't see It's just
because I'm busy and I only get to pick a
certain movie, and I just I can't justify seeing that
one right now if I ever get time, like sometimes
something comes up or endless friends go in and they
have their kids, so they get together. Sure like when
I saw h what was like the together?
Speaker 2: When I saw that, I didn't have any plans too,
but I had a free night. It's like, I just
want chill, relaxed and see new movie. And that's what
I did. But unfortunately, you know, we won't get a chance too.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see it on VOD but I do
think when I saw I was very excited, but I
thought the time had passed since that. Okay, my things
for clarifying that because he says crazy too, And you
think the movie is just three episodes of the show
stitched together. Now, That's what I'm gonna ask you though,
because this is what I was uncertain about. Why it's
like even bigger, right? Is it just that concept of
three episodes put together, or is it already episodes that
have gone out because it's like when they did the
Paul Patrol movie, there was like a like the first
one it was, i know, thirty to forty minutes of
a new movie, but.
Speaker 2: Then after that was like a bunch of the show
episodes put together.
Speaker 1: Right, So it's like that if it is episodes that
have already aired, that's like oo uber impressive, you know,
that's very Some of the capon thing of this movie
is already on Netflix and it's going out there, so
we just don't know what people will pay for, right,
same thing.
Speaker 2: I wanted to go see.
Speaker 1: Toy Story with my kids because they have seen the theaters.
I still might try to. It depends on long it's
in theaters for. But just busy and long Walk, that
one's tough.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Let's see the long Walk budget. Let's
see what this sing's budget at.
Speaker 1: Twenty million, okay, so like so box office eleven million,
twenty million, it'll definitely make its its production budget back
will be like a proffle thing. I don't know that
who knows, We don't know how much it will happen.
So okay, so no, it's not already aired episodes preview
of that. Everyone should go see Long Walks of April,
So okay, back to Mike, I'll go back to you April.
Speaker 2: So okay.
Speaker 1: That makes sense because I thought, if it was already
aired episodes, that the show's fucking just like a big
time And I'm not like, You're like, that's very impressive,
but okay, that's fair. It's a pre outcome scene and
still I get that people are excited to want to
see it.
Speaker 2: Great business there, right, Everyone should go see the Long Walk. Yeah,
same thing. I want to, but it'll be unfortunately a
VOD for me.
Speaker 1: I just don't have time. There's so many movies coming
up in September October, and I've heard great things about it.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see Dave Johnson's his performance.
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of people say, like the third
act is just a little I once it brings down
the movie, but definitely the weakest point and maybe is
a bit too long, probably because movies just walking. So
that has made me be like, oh, I have to
see it, but yeah, I'm not surprised. I think here's
the best way I can say without being mean, I
think they're very lucky because who put this out here,
lions Gate I think that movie at many other times
could have been a streaming movie.
Speaker 2: I love that Out is on theaters.
Speaker 1: If I didn't have the two jobs, us starting filming
again and then the kids. Yeah, I gu said, everyone
knows me when I had a few kids, or before kids,
I've assume multiple movies a week, right, So I'm happy
that I got theatrical release.
Speaker 2: We do live live in a world where that easily.
Speaker 1: Could have been put on streaming from a studio perspective, right, yeah,
put this there, and maybe you can make the case
it could have done better like a K Pop where
it like it's just an easier click right where to
sell that. It's in a weird spot because it's not
a it's a thriller, but it's not a horror movie. Right,
So we're getting in that season where people I think
want to see more like what Conjuring is. So it's
not there, but then doesn't have big enough stars where
it justifies like obviously put I'm not saying movie starts
selling movies, but it does help a little bit more.
Obviously where these all these people are unknown, even Mark Hamill,
he's in a very different role, right, It's not only
playing the Mark Campell, you know, in Love and Mark
Hamill's not like a draw either, right, So.
Speaker 2: We'll see how it does.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think probably like a little less than
what they want, like eleven and one point five is
nothing too great. Let's see here.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think this box office. Yeah, we've got about
twelve more minutes here, so I will What am I
doing here?
Speaker 1: I've lost my notes that's somewhere, so yeah, just some
stuff you didn't get to speaking of the Conjuring last week,
because that's what we do.
Speaker 2: We bunt news if we don't get to it. We
had known they were making a TV show supposedly, but
when the movie had such a success, it was like, yeah,
we're streamlining that, like that's happening right now. And then
apparently they're making a prequel movie as well. I I
think that the tough thing with.
Speaker 1: I think a show you could get them. I think
for me, it's all the what are people there for? Like,
don't get me wrong, I don't think people are just
going to for to see Patrick Wilson and Viera Fromigo, right.
I don't think it's just they put assents. These people
gotta go and do this, right, But I think that
they they help and I do wonder what the franchise
is gonna do before a prequel movie.
Speaker 2: You kind of get with them. Plus you could kind
of bring them back to like tell like you remember
when we first met, and then you get the younger actors.
Cause if you hit with the prequel movie, then you
kind of get a bunch of new life. It can't
keep going right.
Speaker 1: The TV show, I think is also a good concept.
I think in the sense that what are they doing?
Are they like you can't I don't think for that
recast and Lorraine Warren, So I think, like what you
need to do is just this. I imagine what it's gonna be.
Is that room that has all this stuff in there.
Here's a story about that. It's like the mini series, right,
kind of the idea like American Horror Stories or a
Black Mirror.
Speaker 2: There's that one Black Mare episode that Letitia right where.
Speaker 1: She went to this museum I think gives camera what
the episode was called, but she sees all the stuff
from the other episodes.
Speaker 2: That's simul what I envision with that show would be
a hit. I don't know. Clearly people want to see
the movie, so if they're paintsing the movie, they'll probably
want to watch the show. Make sure you put it
out in October Halloween time, not like it Chat whatever
it Welcome to Day where the first episode is come
out October twenty six. I get for the premiere training
at that Halloween bump, but it's like, have that all
of October. That feels very odd to me. Right the
movie I don't know, but I now I'm talking to myself.
I first was like, I don't know if I could
see these not being a great idea, but that's one thing.
Speaker 1: If the prequel comes out and doesn't do the greatest,
then we'll know. Okay, people are attached to seeing these
characters go through these journeys. But at the same time,
usually they're pretty good at the budget, so I think
they'll both be a success. And like I said, if
they can get two actors at work and people like
and they like the movie enough, then you're kind of
going like another four to three movies, right, Like you're
good to go there. So yeah, so we'll see what
happens there. Scarlett Johansson supposedly it's doing another Drastic World movie.
That was reported by Dan Rpka last weekend not really
surprising at all, right, because the first or I guess whatever, uh,
because it's rebirth, right, I'll say the first one for her,
that first one came out made over eight hundred.
Speaker 2: What did it finish at? Here?
Speaker 1: Because also it did not make the numbers of the
other ones. I don't think it ever was going to.
It made a little bit more than I thought it. Well,
I don't know, I actually know.
Speaker 2: I'll take that.
Speaker 1: I thought because my ranking for the summer was I
thought it's gonna Suitman, Jurassic World, and then a Fantastic four.
I thought this was kind of around what Drastic World
would do. I thought I was in like the seven
hundred range. I just thought super Man was gonna do
a bit better than it did. But age sixty two
very impressive when it's been a bit. You got a
completely new cast, no returning characters, and the last ones,
last few ones weren't the greatest. But the same time,
it doesn't seem like the audience cares about that, And like,
I guess, sure my excitement I really have hmm. Like
that that's the thing, right, especially nowadays, I try to
be more picky and choosy. I said that with Jurassic
World reworth that I think I gave like a six
out of ten that I I don't know like it
to me was technically better than the last two, but
it's also just felt super safe, where at least with
Drastic World like Fallen Kingdom really disliked that movie, But
they're taking some swings right, some swings really don't work
in my opinion, But that's where it's like there's almost
some more excitement as far as seeing a three to
four out of ten movie versus a six most out
of six is uh. I would say at best, it's
a lot of great ideas just execute poorly right, where
this was just rinse, repeat, hitting a lot of similar beats.
There's a few new concepts, but nothing like you know,
the d rec nothing that was super exciting, like, oh
I need to see more of these these evolved whatnot? Right, So,
but as studio, why wouldn't you right, it's still franchised
and this is gonna be like Transformers where people wondered
this would be the extinction and it wasn't, which funny
enough all the dinosaurs and you know with the Transformers,
I think they just go to the wheels fall off
I think they just go until they stop making a
certain amount of money that they want to hit, and
then they wait. And the good thing is, I've always
said this before that the second this doesn't do well,
you bring back the OG characters again, whether it is
the original trilogy or the new trilogy, because they kind
of have a full safe there also working well, I'll
go get them. And that's where I legitimly think if
you let's say Drastic World Rebirth two comes out, and
it comes out in twenty twenty seven, twenty eight comes
out under reforms disappoints, Oh, what's happening with Drastic series yet?
Da da da, Well, let's get Chris Brad and Bryce
dyuse Hard and I bet you it's a hint. So
that's the thing where it's like they kind of have
a mulligan there, and then that's like would the one
after that be hit? I don't know, but I don't
see it bombing anytime because I've said this before too,
and people compared it to maybe not Transformers, but when
they compared it to superhero stuff like other than sixty five,
and we supposedly there's a rumored Anne Hathaway. You McGregor
dinosaur movie. There's not like the dinosaur genre's not overridden
with stuff, right, there's like another dinosaur movie.
Speaker 2: To me, it's kind of like, oh, well you're known.
It's like this is Drastic World.
Speaker 1: I think something like Fast and Furious because the amount
of how much they were putting them out that got
to oh another Drastic or another Fast and Furious movie,
like I think people. And then you had Hobbs and
Shaw right where Drastic World and that was like twenty
two two. Yeah, it's been three years, like every three years.
Speaker 2: So step Mike says, my boy Jonathan Bailey better be
back too. I think so, I feel like you should
do the same thing.
Speaker 1: I think they just locked on Scargow obviously because like
she's like the main star, right, she's in the post.
Speaker 2: That's what they sell it on.
Speaker 1: But I think for me, you you got to get
them all back and then you kind of create your
new Troldrey thing. And then again you're gonna make a
beer bust when you want to, Like you have ma Hershaw,
Bailey and Scarjow and then you have you bring back Pratt,
Bryce Stell's how to any point you can bring back
original characters, golden and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Like it's all there right. So the only thing I
think that might hurt Mike because I thought I saw
recently where he said he's gonna take a break for
a little while. But if the movie's not being made
for a little bit, I think they're good. Who comes
back to direct I don't think it managed because I
don't think they care. I think Eric Edwards did what
he could there that was rush production. They just want
to get something out right. So we'll see. But I
will for sure be there, at least I know Taylor
will be probably would be if it fits in.
Speaker 1: I just like, I'm not much excitement. I have to
see a trailer and see what they're doing right. And
then finally I was announced David S. Samberg is for
Amazon and MGM remaking The Anvil Horror. I think it
will probably go to theaters and then Amazon after.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I don't know here.
Speaker 1: I still want to watch Until Down, even though I
really shouldn't like I loved that game. That's one of
my favorite PlayStation exclusives as far as I don't think
it's like a maybe Top even twenty, but I had
a great time that I love a good choose your
venture horror type of game, right, and that was tons
of fun. I lost complete interest. And this really makes
me worried if anyone in the chat or that's listening
has played Outlast. Me and the boys we did a
review last year, but I really like Outlast, and they
had recently notes that they were making a movie. I
don't know when I say they just like Hollywood, but
like that was my worry of like you just take
the name and oh some people like and use a
visit concepts. I do want to watch until Donk just
because I'm I. I Everyone just either I hear it's
bad or fine or below average. So with Samberg, it's.
Speaker 2: Interesting, right because I feel like he made which like
out horror short was really really well done.
Speaker 1: I think that's really great. Watch it if you haven't,
I know, if you've seen the movie. I think the
movie is good.
Speaker 2: But it was hard to take that concept.
Speaker 1: But why wouldn't you write you make the short, you
go to film festivals, James want hits you up, like, hey,
you want to make a movie version of this?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: You know, like that's what you do, right, And I
thought it was a good movie. I think it was
it didn't keep the tension, but it was a good movie.
Shazam I liked, but didn't like as much as other people.
And then Chazanne two thought was just like fine, like
definitely lower than one. And then there's this, right, I
said this in the discord when this news came out
to me. This is the this is the like tipping
off point. Don't get wrong, I'm not saying his career
is over.
Speaker 2: No, he's had some hits.
Speaker 1: I think always what can happen if you have a
couple I'd say not bombs, but let's just say under
like misses or just like consider non wins, like I
don't know, just underwhelming performances.
Speaker 2: As a director, you always there's always TV that can
be fined or you become like Garrett Edwards where it's
a you know, a director for hire sort of deal. Right.
Speaker 1: I don't have any excitement for this because I've seen
so many It's like Texas Shainsaw where we've gone so
many in the past ten years of sequels or semi
remakes or using the house or whatever, and they've just
been like straight to DVD type of quality. Right, And
that's where it's tough because and I need to go
back and watch the original. It's not one that I
absolutely love, but like I know it's a very good movie.
Like there's lots of tropes and concepts that's created, but
to me, the excitement there is it does need to
be revitalized. So that could be good, and I think
Samberg will be motivated, but like Samberg's not a choice.
I'm like, oh, I can't absolutely wait, it's like okay,
like that's good, but I think if you wanted something sexy,
it needs to be someone that has a bit more
claim right now, where like for him, it is like
this is gonna be the tipping point of where his
career follows after. And then also I just April, you
literally just said my last point before that. So the end,
I don't think anyone cares about Animal horror move. It
cares about an Animal horror Ville move. I fucking that
a big time an Annaville horror movie.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: I think there's just some stuff like it's like even
though like I saw it last week, like uh seth
rog gonn announce or they announced like they're bringing back
them up at shore right, I love them up. It's
I can go and I think this is kind of passed.
You know, there's certain things where it's just that's of
a bygone era and people just you might have better
chance of just making a horror movie with that same
budget and you know, just doing something original or concept right,
like I think, and I'm trying to think of something recently, right,
I think there's just something the last year.
Speaker 2: But you never know, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna make talk about Maverick, but
I was somebody that I didn't think top Gun was
gonna bomb. I just thought, like, is this something people
really care about in this agent? And they did right,
And that has Tom Cruise a lot of differences. But
I think with horror, I feel very confident and I
don't think people care to the degree they want them to.
Speaker 2: I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I think that's something they look at and they go, oh,
that was that's that's not It doesn't have the same
value does And I've said that before with something like
even like Jason and Freddy Krueger. Obviously they're always on
hot topping and stuff like that, but we don't know
in this area, hasn't been a frame moving so long
hasn't been Jason moving so long they could start being
those characters that people they let them pass and they
have new horror icons, they have art, the clown, they
got penny Wise.
Speaker 2: Because and that's what you need to do right where.
Speaker 1: It never got the movie treatment, but still in the
nineties it was big for people. And then what I
to me what any Mucheti and Carrie fugnag when everyone
did with that, they revitalized it in a way, that's
what you needed to do with this. But I think
that's where with the Samburg choice to go Okay, I
don't know if that's gonna happen, but uh yeah, we'll see.
That is the end of this edition of Tres told you.
I'll be back on Wednesday with who knows nothing to
tease right now. If there is no news, we'll do
an evergreen topic or I'll maybe do that fancasting one.
I don't know, but I hope everyone has a good
rest of your week and I'll catch you in the
discord or talk to you later.
Speaker 2: Until then, it won't be boring