Speaker 1: Well, welcome back to the show, everybody.
Speaker 2: Our guest this evening is, of course, the host of
the Pete Kennas Show, which Pete, I've actually got a
blast from the past for you are. I think you're
our third longest running guest. Check this out, Pete. This
is why I asked you if you could do this week,
almost seven years to the day from episode eleven of
The Gold Standard. There's Pete and I in simpler, happier
times when.
Speaker 3: Yep, we're probably just talking about Game of Thrones or
something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I mean, in all fairness,
you were calling yourself Mance and I at the time,
I was a big Game of Thrones fan because I
just you know, I didn't know yet what horrors yet
awaited us, both in terms of the show and in
terms of never ever, ever ever reading the end of
the books.
Speaker 1: But you're not going to trigger me into going to that.
Pecanone as Welcome back to.
Speaker 3: The show, doing good man, Thank you, thank you for
having me back.
Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to start off with I've seen all
some of your really cool pictures on the internet.
Speaker 3: You guys just recently got back from a vacation where'd
you guys go. We went down to bou Kellyville. We
wanted to L Salvador. We were down there for eight
days and seven nights and stayed in Santa Salvador the
whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what was the what was the motivation for
L Salvador in particular? Did you just want to kind
of get to check it out with your own eyes
so everything going on in the news, or was it
just genuinely an interesting vacation destination.
Speaker 3: A little bit of both. It was mostly well, we
wanted to get out of the count. You know, we
had talked about doing an international trip and we were
talking about Europe, and Europe is kind of dependent on
where you go. It's kind of sad. I mean it's like,
I mean, if I want to do that, I can
just go to like New York City and go to
the Bronx or something like that. So yeah, I was
just like, well, you know, let's let's stay within i mean,
their central time, just like us. So it's like, yeah,
let's fly, let's fly down there and see what happens
and see what it's like. And we had a great
time and we we stayed in like a boutique hotel
that was still insanely cheap, much cheaper than than here,
wasn't owned by Indians, which was, you know, just amazing
for somebody who ye know, there's somebody who drives a
lot and spends a lot of time and uh, you
know the freeway side hotels, it's like, wow, this place
was not owned by Indians. Holy crap. Well, I mean
maybe some people could say like Native America, like Native
America's Indians, there were some of those around, but it
was it was really nice, and you know, it's still inexpensive,
and yeah, I could just say that it's probably probably
felt safer, you know at night walking around than most
big cities that I've ever been to. There's a very
there's an armed presence. They have like a civil guard,
people with like openly carrying pistol grip shotguns all over
the place. I mean, you know, if you walk for
you know, if you walk for half a mile, you'll
see a few and they have regular military carrying M
sixteen's And I don't think it's I think it's really
just a show of you know, FAFO right now because
most of their violent criminals are in jail and they're
never getting out, so you know, imagine, imagine that.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a that's an interesting point. Now.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you that guys were there for
basically just a little over a week, but you you
can't help but notice those things when you're out on
the street.
Speaker 3: So let me.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I either of us really had
a plan for tonight. I just figured we would just
hang out and talk. But I think that this is
an interesting point that I think when a lot of
people see kind of what's just when you're only getting
kind of the drive by twenty four hour news version
of what's gone on in l. Salvador, you know, people
fall into the two camps of, oh, well, Boukel's doing
a great job, he's cleaning up the streets, or oh
Boukel's a tyrant. You know, look at look at the
way he's manhandling people. This is a loss of civil liberties.
Did you get the feeling when you were there for
that period of time that people were walking around the
street in fear of their civil liberties or did you
get the feeling that people were grateful.
Speaker 3: They were there. We stayed right across the street from
a mall and like a couple of nights right outside
the mall. I mean there was literally like a party.
It was like a street party. And I don't even
know if it was planted. It almost seemed impromptu. I
don't think that they were worried about getting arrested or
anything like that. The only kind of We went to
the National Museum and they had some art installations from
the past couple of years, and you could tell that
like typical shit lib kind of stuff. So I talked
to there was a guy there. You know, there were
a bunch of young people and when I say young people,
I'm talking about early twenties who could answer questions. They
spoke English, and that's where you hear the ship lib
kind of thing. You hear the kind of thing that
you've heard from shit libs in this country. Oh you know, well,
there were some people who were arrested who weren't, you know,
who weren't part of gangs and everything. They may have
just only been friends with somebody in the gang. And
you know, that's the kind of pushback you got. And
but you know, you're in an art museum. What would
you expect. What would you expect of somebody working in
an art museum, So it seemed like the people on
the outside and I just saw a video the I
think it was yesterday, bu Kelly was at a rally
or something like that, and all these people were excited
to see them taking selfies with them. And they were
all young. I mean, they were all in their twenties.
So yeah, I don't think they're worried about their civil
liberties being violated. I think they're enjoying their liberty. But
they also understand that, you know, it came, it came
at a price, and I think they're very grateful for
the the price that was paid for that. Well.
Speaker 2: If there's something I feel like I've noticed in recent
months or years even, it's that, you know, even if
you're looking at one specific demographic, like say young people ages,
you know, twenty one to early twenties, mid twenties, you're
even even with that, if you've a lot of people
I think think, oh well young people people are more
liberal when they're younger. You're going to find a lot
of progressives that are that are younger. You know, when
you're thinking of like protests on the street and throwing
tomato juice on the paintings and blocking traffic, these are
all young people, And I was like, well, there may
be truth to that that there's a high percentage of
those types of people who are also young, But I
think it's it's a big split between because there's also
a lot of young people in that age that get
married and start families.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: But I think in my opinion, and you can correct
me if you've had a different a different point of view,
but from my perspective, the young twenty three to twenty
eightish year olds who are starting starting careers, getting married,
and starting families are not the same young people that
you're seeing gluing themselves to statues and adopting progressivism.
Speaker 1: What would you say to that, Well.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would say that I'm mostly in a
bubble when it comes to that. Most of the I guess,
what we would call the zoomer generation that I deal
with is pretty right wing, you know, pretty pretty based.
Even when I go to my visit my wife's family,
they're like it. At holidays, there's a lot of kids
there who are between like nineteen and twenty five. They're
not particularly progressive. They're probably more conservative leaning. But you know,
one thing that they do have is they all have jobs,
they're getting married, they're buying houses. And these aren't people
who they don't come from a rich family, you know.
So yeah, maybe being in a huge city right now
isn't the greatest thing if you're young, and people in
a smaller town can find more opportunities, and you know,
they can network better through people, especially if you know,
as soon as they graduate high school, they don't move
a move half away, half a country away to a
really cool zip code so they can be in a
cool place they can do they can sit around and
they can stay in their area, network and build something.
And I think maybe we're getting back to that as
far as a culture goes. Maybe we're getting back to
a culture of people who are not going to be
so so excited about graduating high school and maybe graduating
college and then moving moving to the big city or
moving to the you know, a nice suburb zip code. Well,
you know, maybe I'll stay around my family and build here,
you know, because I think that from what I see
and from you know, the people that I know, I
don't hear people complaining that there aren't opportunities out there.
Speaker 2: Well, I kind of wonder if it's if it can't
just be simply the beast. And so maybe that goes
a little ways towards explaining or that reverse. Maybe I'm
supposed to seek knowledge and skills and then go apply
them at home rather than go apply them for somewhere
else in some cubicle in some place that's not my home.
Speaker 1: Would you say that makes sense?
Speaker 3: Sure? And I think there's also power in that. I
think the well, the more you get like cities are
just basically multicultural, multi racial, and there's no cohesion there
when you're when you're when you stick around where you
grew up, if that place is more rural, there'll be
a tendency to be more tight knit, more homogeneous. And
I think there's more power in in homogeneity, especially even
with political power. I think, you know, if you have that,
you don't have as many special interest groups vying for
special privileges and and things like that. And I think
that's one of the one of the things that I've
come recently to be a you know, when I've been
for a while an opponent of multiculturalism and multi racialism
in in areas, in localities, and I think a lot
of it has to do with politics. Is we see
it in this country. You know, Trump gets elected and
everybody's like, oh, we voted for him, He's for us.
And then it's like, well, I mean, how many different
his first term. Let's see, Well, he did every he
did things for Israel. He pandered to the black population.
I mean, he didn't pardon ross Albrick or or Edward
Snowden or Julian Assange, but he pardoned a bunch of rappers.
So you know, I think leadership and political leadership in
multicultural and multi racial societies have a tendency to have
being being pulled in different directions. So you know, the
smaller area you can be in, the less of that
politician has to deal with, it's actually even easier to
it's a governor, and you know, it's easier to see
as a you know, as somebody who who's part of
that homogeneity. It's easier for you, whether it be cultural,
whether it be whatever it is, it's easier for you
to not have your interests cut off at the knees
by competing interest groups.
Speaker 1: Well, before we move.
Speaker 2: On completely from from your El Salvador trip and talking
about Boukel, I think a lot more Javier Melee and
Argentina has gotten a lot more press I think, at
least domestically here than Bukel has. And maybe it's because
of the chainsaw stuff and the and and just the
attitude and his press and all that. But of those two,
which one do you think in the long term is
going to be seen as the bigger success for his country.
Speaker 3: I think bou Kelly will because he's I think the
reason why a lot of Americans, and not only libertarian types,
but a lot of Americans appeal They they look at
me Lay and they see more. They just see more liberalism,
they see more classical liberalism. Oh, cutting taxes, Oh this
that he hasn't done. If he has done heavy handed stuff.
I remember there were a bunch of Kamis who were
protesting in the street, and I don't know that he
like did what bou Kelly would do, or he just
round them up and throw them in jail. And so
people Americans can relate to that more because it's like, oh,
you need to process and you know we have this history. Well, no,
it doesn't work. And Malay is the problem I have
with Malay is that what's going to happen when he's
out of office are they going to elect another Malay,
because that's not the history of most of most societies.
When they have if they have great economic prosperity, they
normally decide. And Sweden was like this at one point
where they were just like an open you know, oh
you know free markets and you know, well, why did
a free market work in the Sweden? Well, I mean,
everybody's related, there's no competing, the competing interests are reduced.
I think that if Malay is not setting up a successor, Yeah,
they talk about how, oh Trump needs a successor here
and anything that's going to be jade events. If Malay's
not setting up a successor to come in there and
continue what he's doing, then you know what happens when
he gets out of there. They vote in the same
old people. That's like, oh, well we've had enough success.
Now we have to take care of people who are poor,
and we need to do more for the poor. That
seems to be a a especially especially in Latin America.
That seems to be something something that happens, I mean
even happens in Northern European countries. But bou Kelly, I
think bou Kelly is smart enough to know that if
that country is going to succeed and it's going to
become whatever his plan is for it, hoping he's not
trying to make it like Ireland, where you know, in
the aughts, Ireland, you know, like drop their corporate taxes
to nothing. And then I was staying right around the
corner from the gigantic Google building and I was like,
that's not that's not a good sign because when you look,
look what happens to Ireland. I mean Ireland, you know,
twenty five years ago was a homogeneous country of Catholics.
Now it's basically being overright. I mean their prime minister
is a gay Indian mm hm is. I mean, what
the hell? How does that happen? So I'm hoping that
Boot Kelly, if he is trying to make it a
tourist destination, or if he's trying to make it a
place where companies can open up have headquarters, Central American
headquarters or whatever, that he doesn't forget about the culture
and he doesn't you know, and he has somebody set
up to come in and replace him that that has
the same kind of attitude he does, because and I
think there is a better chance of that with him
considering El Salvador was in a much worse situation than Argentina.
I know, the libertarian types because I used to be one,
will look and go oh no, Argentina was much worse
because Argentina their economy, the economy, economy, economics, economics, economics.
I mean like literally like one percent of the El
Salvadorian population was being murdered every year. So it's like,
I mean, I think that's a bigger problem. Then, you know, oh,
we had we had inflation. In inflation bad that that destroys.
Inflation is what destroys, what destroys empires. Oh okay, well,
I mean like murder, let's not talk about murder. Yeah,
so he stopped murder. He stopped it from being the
murder capital of the world and too good to being
the safest country in the Western hemisphere. And yeah, I
think people are going to probably want to keep that
that that's going to be something that's going to be
a little more important to the next generation. I hope.
Then we need to keep inflation down because you know,
if line don't go up, line needs to go up.
If line no go up, it no good. We don't
have no civilization. If line no, go.
Speaker 1: Up, Well you you mention you missed of course the
big T word Trump.
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you about that. So you know,
I always remember. And again maybe this is just kind
of an impression of you know, social media or just
media in general. But in some of some of the
elections around the world, whether it's Bucelli or Miley or
all that broad in Italy, always forget that, forget her name.
But in some of these different, you know, political movements,
people people like to say, oh, well, this is inspired
by Trump. You know, all these different peoples around the
world are seeing what what Maga has done and seeing
the Trump movement in America and all these different political
movements around the world inspired by Trump.
Speaker 1: But uh not.
Speaker 2: Not only do I not necessarily believe that, but I
I tend to think just in the guys we've talked
about so far, when you're comparing El Salvador, Argentina, and
the United States, which of course are very different places.
So it's not so much comparing the nation so much
as just comparing you know, the leaders of those nations.
Is it really that those guys inspired by Trump or
is it actually more that Trump has largely failed to
be quite as transformational as those guys have been the.
Speaker 1: Other way around.
Speaker 3: I would say the reason why you see people like
bo Kelly Millay Orbon in Hungary, you see the rise
of the AfD Party in Germany, and you see movements
like that and Trump, is because people are just sick
of this post war consensus. Bal And I think it's
pretty obvious that you that it's very important, the post
war consensus of oh, we're just liberals and we get
to live. It's a multicultural culture land. You know. I
remember Barbara Learner Specter, an American Jew, who went over
to Sweden with her Madeira Ngi and said, what fifteen
years ago that you know, Europe is not going to
survive unless it becomes multicultural, and we're going to be
blamed for that. Wow. Okay, that's interesting. I think people
are sick of this. I think people the reason you
see all of this is because it's unsustainable. And when
you see someone like Darryl Cooper and being called a
Nazi because he went on Tucker and then he went
on Joe Rogan and he said things that were in
the nineteen fifties, you could argue that Churchill was, you know,
a bum and people would say that Churchill was a drunk.
Everyone knew that Churchill was in debt and was basically
the slave of whoever would pay off his debts. Everyone
would everyone knew that. And you see the way people
are reacting to it, and you see that there are
people on both sides fighting that completely agree that the
postwar cans census needs to be destroyed. And then you
see people who are fighting tooth and nail and they're
calling Darryl Cooper a Nazi and a Nazi apologist because
he said, you know, because he says things like, you know,
maybe that war didn't need to be fought, maybe the
United States didn't need to get involved, and you know,
maybe maybe Russia was planning to invade, was planning to
invade the European continent, like Victor Suberov said in the
book Ice Breaker, like I mean, it lays out an
incredible argument for I think that's what you're seeing. And
I think that that's just what they call the spirit
of the age. Is the spirit of the age where
we're in, is this postwar consensus that you know, no
one can be too right wing. You know, we can
have people who are openly communist. I mean, like literally
call themselves communist Marxist and they can work in the government.
But if somebody calls themselves a national socialist, well they
can't even have a bank account.
Speaker 1: Sure.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the post war consensus, being too, you know,
being too it's my people. I care about my people,
and I care about my people enough that if you
try and hurt my people, and if you have been
hurting my people, I'll start, you know, I will kick
you out of this country. I will demonize you and
kick you out of this country, kick you out of
our country. I mean, that's the worst thing possible to
care about your own people. I mean that's the third rail,
saying that you have you know not and everyone Europeans
saying that they care about other European people and that
they have something in common and they have interests. And
I think that that's what you're seeing. I think that's
part of what's happening with Trump. I think Trump is
much more complicated. The reason for his rise is much
more complicated than Malay In you know, in Argentina, which
is a mostly Spanish country, and in El Salvador, which
is you know, almost universally l Salvadorian monocultural societies. You know,
this country is much different. The problems we have here
run a lot deeper than in those places. So, you know,
I don't even see Trump as an answer. I see
Trump as a sign. You know. I think he can
get some things done that will actually help us, help
the average person. But I don't see him curing curing
our ills, you know, any problems that we have, he has. Way,
there are way too many special interests, elite groups, and
too many groups with money who can pull his strings
and you know, move him in one direction in the other.
So to me, it's always been and I know it's
kind of a trope, but Trump is just really a signal,
but he's not the answer.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, to call out the elephant
in the room. Those those a few things I had
in my notes. I want to make sure we touched
on before we get too far out of time. I
know that as as we speak, they're they're allegedly getting
ready to do this massive dump of JFK files, which
I don't know how anyone could be excited for that
with when you see the way the whole Epstein thing
went down, when you see all those grifters walking out
of the White House with their binders filled with nothing like,
with absolutely no information whatsoever. And of course you know,
also the same week, you know, you and I had
spoke briefly earlier in the week that you know, we'll
be lucky if we get to do this show and
we're not at war with Iran by the time you
and I sit down to talk, because we're bombing Yeming
because there's supposedly we're protecting shipping from all these horrible pirates.
And then of course, you know, just this past week
with the cr that was the whole big showdown between
Trump and Massy Thomas Massey from Kentucky, and you know,
to call out the elephant of the room there, there's
there's a little bit of a link between all of
those individual things. And hearkening back to, well, what's what's
one major difference between kind of Trump and America versus
a lot of these other examples you've given. It's that
it's it's it's a link to this to this funny
little nation over in the Middle East. I know you
know where I'm going with that. I think at the
end of the day, we all knew going in you
had already mentioned a short list of things that Trump
had promised in the first that didn't work out in
the Trump one point oh that people then had hopes
that Trump two point oh would be better. And there
have been some good things in Trump two point oh.
You know you mentioned Ross wasn't pardoned in the first one.
He was pardoned in this one, just as one example.
But we all knew going in that if things could
get better domestically, than great, But the huge red flag
would always be the Addleson's and Trump's connections with Israel.
And now here we are, what eight weeks into the
new administration, we're now starting to see that red flag
tape center stage.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean we knew it was there. Yeah. And
also the j six prisoners being pardoned. I think that's huge, yes,
because I mean, as as Darryl Cooper has said, he said,
it wasn't an insurrection, but you know he wishes it
would have been, sure, Yeah, and that they would have
done something because you know, this country proved just how
lost it is and maybe lost forever because Jeffrey Epstein
was killed in a jail sell and there wasn't a
revolution because of it. Yeah, you know that that should
have been the last straw. And you know, or are
we going to see Epstein file? Yeah? Are we going
to see the JIK files. I don't think we're going
to see them all. No, I think we're going to
see I mean maybe the only thing that makes me
think maybe they do is we will is because Glenn
Beck is playing damage control already. It's not about the
who did it, it's about the why and what happened.
So you know, and anybody who knows anything about Glenn
Beck and some of the absolutely insane things he said
after October seventh, twenty twenty three, maybe maybe he knows something,
maybe he doesn't. Who knows, But I mean, I just
don't know what to expect from this because you know,
our greatest ally is implicated with Epstein. Our greatest ally
is going to be implicated with It is going to
be it mentioned in the JFK files. I've heard from
people who've seen them that they know this, that this
is I know, people who know who the shooter was, like, like,
they know the names of the people who pulled the trigger.
These things are not secret. They have been leaked before,
but it were cleaned up very quickly. I mean, this
all points to Israel, and I don't even know that
it matters. I think we're at such a point where,
like boomers and a lot of unfortunate early gen xers,
or it could come out that Israel was responsible for
killing the president of the United States or at least
helped planet and that they were blackmailing Americans into committing
treason by orchestrating them having sex with children. And I
think a lot of people won't even care. I mean,
so sure we see the I mean I can run
down a whole list I have in my head of
people who belong in jail right now, you know, the
clearest clear some of them. Adam Kinsinger and a bunch
of these people. They should be in GIMO. I mean, really,
they should be getting the Rosenberg treatment. But I just
don't see this happening. I don't see, you know. And
I'm not one of these people who the whole Marriam
Adelson giving one hundred million dollars and everything like that,
that's not even necessary. Yeah. I remember talking to Jeremy R. Hammond,
and you know, he wrote a book called Obstacle to
Peace about Israel Palestine, and he said, you don't even
need APEC. Christian evangelicals in this country are so brainwashed
into thinking, oh, the greatest ally and Boomer and there
our greatest ally is why would the Houthis attack our shipping? Oh?
I don't know. Maybe there was this proxy war where
the United States completely armed and gave plane, gave bombers
and jets and fighter planes to Saudi Arabia, taught him
how to taught him how to target, and went in
and like destroyed Yemen to the point where like cholera,
something that hadn't seen in fifty to sixty years, came
back and they were targeting you know, infrastructure like hospitals
and water treatment plants. I mean, maybe we've forgotten about that.
They haven't, I haven't. You know if the first thing
Trump should have done, one of the first things he
should have done was he should have sent a delegation
to bringing Yemen and said, look, things have been you know, sorry,
we did all this. What do we need to do.
How do we make it so that we can have
commerce through the streets again? What do you need I
mean payback? It's like, oh, they're attacked, why would they attack?
It's like, first of all, as far as far as
I understand, they have never attacked a commercial ship, an
American commercial ship. Now, I know a lot of ships
are have different ports of call and everything, or you know,
they're registered in other countries because of the Jones Act
and everything. That's neither here nor there. But the why
would they attack the American military ships? Oh, I don't know.
I mean maybe this thing called you know, the Saudi's
just destroying them in the United States telling them how
to do it. I mean, h I the people who
instinctively jumped to our greatest ally, they don't realize that.
I mean literally, we're since World War Two, we've been
controlled and even before World War Two. Basically look at
Biden's cabinet, it was this sixty to eighty percent of
it had Oh I don't know, names that sound like
names that you might find in Israel. Sure, yeah, they
of the Secretary of State after October seventh went to Jerusalem,
went into the Kanesset and said, I'm here as a Jew,
not I'm here as the American Secretary of State, I'm
here as a Jew. Yeah, I mean, everybody's get into conspiracy.
Let's get into conspiracy theory. Land we've been an occupied
government by a foreign power for a very long time.
And all Israel is is a land based aircraft carrier
in the Middle East. Yeah, that's it. That's all it is.
And what does that bring us attacks? Hatred? Because why
what is our what would an American? Well, if you
believe in the founding of this country, if you're a constant,
all we need to do is go back to the constitution.
All we need to do is go back to the
Articles of Confederation. Well, yeah, what did those people say,
no binding alliances? Sure, I'm it's And people say, oh,
you know, talking about this is so low IQ. Really
so Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, Martin Luther, Thomas aquinas people
throughout the twentieth century, these were low IQ people. Oh
and we're not supposed to look to them and see
what they wrote, or how about I just study their
own history and read their own books. Jewish virtual Encyclopedias online,
It's one of my favorite resources. I have access to
the older ones too. I'm reading on my I'm up
to episode nineteen with a Russian scholar of reading two
hundred Years Together by Alexander Soulshanisan, which is the history
of the history of the Jews in Russia from seventeen
ninety five to nineteen ninety five. I'm studying, I'm looking
at the history, and I'm seeing this happens over and
over and over again. You can't let this little country
control us. And then there are these people who are like, well,
actually we control them, Okay, run with that. We've been
under occupation for eighty years, so we control them. Great,
same thing, it's reciprocal. And then you have the city
of London. It's this big triangle. It's all the same thing,
all controlled by the same people. So what do we
do We Putin doesn't have this problem. They're in Russia.
They don't have they don't have control there. Well, why
because he didn't fucking let him. Yeah, when he you know,
when he was elected in the nineties, there were these
oligarchs in the country who were divvying up the country
to the point where the average lifespan of a Russian
male had been reduced twenty years. And he chased them out,
and he drove them out, and the ones he didn't
drive out, he put under his heel and made him
work for them. Well, where did they escape to New York? City, London,
tel Aviv, Okay, Kiev, Okay. So there's the elephant you
want to talk about. You want to talk about the
elephant in the room. There's the elephant in the room.
I just laid it out for you. Now go ahead
and call me low IQ because you don't want to
have a conversation with me, because I know this. I'm
going to give you dates, and I'm going to give
you names, and I'm going to give you treaties and
I'm going to give you the history that you don't
know because you're just like I have to. I have
to judge everybody as an individual, because no groups ever
come together and organize in their own self interest, right libertarians.
Speaker 2: That's this has given me too many follow up questions
in one in one spiels. I'm gonna I'm going to
try to remember a few of them. So I was
reminded as you were saying, because you had mentioned, you know,
kind of that that people that if there were these revelations,
if some things did come out, that you feel like
people just wouldn't care because look, look at the things
that people know now, like we've all seen the graphics
of you know, here's here's three quarters of some of
the most powerful and influential American politicians, and and all
the ones that have dual you know, dual citizenship with Israel,
which is you know, I think one is one too many,
but that's it's a lot. And then you think, you
think it's just some of the other just run of
the mill grift right like you think of you know,
when the when the Nancy Pelosis and Elizabeth Warns of
the world go into politics, making you know, one hundred
thousand dollars a year, and then after twenty years they
have a couple of hundred million dollars. Everyone knows that, right,
Like we all know that they're robbing people blind and
doing insider training and accepting bribes and all that. And
of course there's you know one one that I always
love to mention, you know, there's you know that Congress
literally has a fund to set aside just to settle
all the sexual impropriety cases with you know, with with
congressmen and senators. So these these people just just just
rape and abuse with impunity, and the government just pays
their tab, you know. Again, So I you know, and
I'm just simply listing things like this.
Speaker 3: In the state bro. Say in the state bro, and
that's not going to happen anymore. Just end the state bro.
Speaker 2: So all of these things are things that people know,
like this is all you know common not You can
google any of those things and see that it's true
in fifteen seconds. But yet all those people get reelected though, right,
So the public at large knows knows these things, and
yet incumbents whin like what ninety two percent of their
races or some ridiculous number like that, So you know
that they do those things, and yet you reelect them.
But you also mentioned I know, you brought up Russia
and Putin and that he doesn't have some of these
same specific issues that a that a Trump has or
even maybe a Melee has, But you also mentioned that, well,
I you know, you know who's Trump's successor going to be?
Is it going to be jd Vance, Is that going
to be Maga two point zero or is that going
to be something different? And that's a I don't know
if we even have time to go into that. You're
wondering if is Bucelli going to have a successor does
Putin have a successor? Is there someone coming? If Putin
had a heart attack and died. Today, who's taken over Russia.
Speaker 3: I think there's a better chance of Putin having a
successor who will continue his legacy of, you know, basically
telling the West to go screw themselves, because that's just
basically their culture. You know, their culture is where Russians
we want to. I think Russians know their history, you know,
like I said, I'm reading this book two hundred years
Together that Alexander Solshanisan wrote. It's the book that Jordan
Peterson won't talk about, and there's a reason why it
hasn't been officially translated into English yet. I think they
know their history. I think they know that if they
allow people who are not Russian to take over or
come in and have influence, they lose who they are
as Russians. And they're already succumbing to that. I mean,
it's hard for the to keep the West out, but
I think Putin has there's a better chance of that
happening with Putin. I mean, look at Putin. Putin has.
I'm sure you've probably seen interviews with Sergei Lavrov, his
foreign minister. He's probably the greatest statesman in the world.
I mean, no, hands down he's knows knows that knows
how to negotiate, has only Russia's interest when he talks,
and he is somebody who when he comes into a room,
he commands it and you know that he's a serious person.
See that. This is the reason why I think a
lot of people don't like Putin and don't like Lavrov,
and don't like didn't even like Medvedev. These are serious
people we there, Yes, have have they had people killed,
probably most likely so of we, so of our leaders.
Our leaders have killed millions just for interests, for commerce,
for for minerals, for ethnic ethnic animosities that go back
centuries by certain groups that have taken over, taken, taken
over influence in this government. But I think that they
genuinely are serious people. I mean, who takes I mean Crenshaw,
He's literally a comic book villain. He has a friggin'
eye patch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you take that seriously? How do you
take Nancy Pelosi seriously? I mean she's a doddering old
fool and drunk half the time. How do you take
how do you take any of these people? Our president
literally used to run a reality show. The president of
Ukraine was on TV as the President of Ukraine, but
he literally became the character that he was on TV
with the same freaking path. And then you look and
you're like, how did Putin? You know, well, Putin was
former KGB Saint Peter's at Saint Petersburg unit, probably the
eastbro probably East Berlin as well. You look at Lavrov,
you look at I mean, these are people who they're serious,
people who care who. I don't think they can be
bought off by foreign powers. I think they would probably
get catch a bullet if they were bought off by
far foreign powers. So I mean, does is Putin going
to have this goes back to is Putin going to
have a successor?
Speaker 3: Probably? I don't know who that is yet. I haven't
looked into it enough. I actually know some Russian experts
that probably could have a good opinion on that. But
ever since this whole thing started in you know, February
of twenty twenty two, and you know, I mean the
history of Ukraine started in February twenty twenty two. Don't
let anybody try and tell you anything happened before that.
People have been saying, oh, Putin has like cerebral palsy.
I mean like all this, I don't know. He seems
to be doing pretty good. Sure, yeah, he's an old guy,
but I mean I wouldn't want to mess with him.
I think they just maybe they look at him as
somebody who they're like jealous of, kind of deep in
their subconscious because he's actually like working for his own country.
Are there going to be interested he has that? Sure, yeah,
that's any politician is going to have that. They'll be
outside interest that, you know. But I mean we know
that everything is bought and paid for. We can look
and see that. You know, APAC owns Don Bacon out
of Nebraska one point. I mean, a guy you've never
heard of, a congressman you've never heard of, is taken
one point three million dollars from a pack. We know
that from Thomas Massey, that everybody in Congress is at
APAC babysitter. We know that even people who don't who
haven't taken, they're taking money from, you know, from some
kind of special interest that they're going to work for.
I remember Terry mccalliffe was the head of the d
n C. I think he stepped down in like two
thousand and four, and he was big into eighty five
fuel corn and it's crazy when he stepped down and
like what wasn't no longer in office, he was like
appointed to the board of like all these agricultural companies.
It's it's just, I mean, how does that happen? I
don't know. I just think that we're just not a
serious country, and it's we're just an open air strip
mall and yeah, and basically an auction an open air
auction house where everything gets auctioned off to the highest bidder.
And then people look at something like Russia and they're like, well, yeah,
that happens, but not on the scale that of here.
And I just think they're jealous and they're like, you know,
and they're always I mean think about I mean, Putin
has way more self control than I would. If I
was president of Russia, I would have invaded Ukraine in
twenty fourteen. I wouldn't he allowed anywhere from twelve thousand
to thirty thousand of his own of ethnic Russians to
be killed in Ukraine. By that the same if you
really know you're Ukraine politics, it's the same people who
controlled this government, I mean, who pushed a war, Victoria Newlin,
Robert Kagan, Alexander Vinman. Where are they all from? Oh, Ukraine,
all their families come from Ukraine historically crazy. Oh that's wild.
You think that maybe this is ethnic animosity for a
pogram that happened in sixty and forty eight, which really
wasn't a pogram. It was a bunch of Jews who
rose up and started killing people because they thought their
Messiah was coming. And the Cossack Kimlnitsky had to put
together a group to stop these people. But oh, we
got pogrammed. You're murdering people. Okay, that's that's You want
to know the Ukraine War. You want to know why
Victorian Newland and Vinmn and all these people, or you know,
like hate Russia and don't mind seeing Ukrainian a million
Ukrainians die in two hundred thousand or how many of
Russians die, and they don't mind seeing Christians kill each other.
I think that lastly, they wanted it that way.
Speaker 2: I think that last point right there is the one
that really gets me. You know, I've never claimed to
be a deeply religious person, but I continue to be
blown away at all over the world, whether it's Eastern Europe,
where the Middle East. Obviously, It's also happened in South America.
It's happened in Europe, where lots of places where interests
within the US direct foreign policy to affect or destabilize regions,
and the effect always just so happens to be a
bunch of dead Christians and it's hanged the Banner's mission accomplished.
How can a Christian population in the United States stomach
that time and time and time.
Speaker 3: Again ignorant there? Do you know you're familiar with the
terms scatology, yes, obviously, and study of the end times. Yeah,
they've been they've been convinced that this group that has
taken over and basically taken this piece of land hostage
in the Middle East has something to do with Jesus
coming back. It's as simple as I can put it.
Speaker 1: And that's it.
Speaker 3: I I that that Representative Don Bacon on Twitter. He
was going off about how we need to do anything
we can to support Israel, and I said, Don, and
I tweeted this at him, and I can't believe he
responds to me. I said, Don, one of these countries
has to disappear. Choose a the United States be Israel?
Pick one? And his answer to me was read the
Book of Revelations.
Speaker 1: I saw that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, first of all, it's the Book of Rebels.
So I don't even believe this guy believes. I think
it's all money to him, Like I said, one point
three million from APEC. I don't even know that he's
he's a Christian or practical or believes anything. But yeah,
he basically said he admitted to me and to the
world on Twitter that he would rather see the United
States destroyed than Israel. And he is an elected official here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not just crank. He's a US representative.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's an elect he's he is a US
representative to Nebraska who sits in Congress in Washington, d C.
Not a state representative, national representative. There's your I mean,
how are you supposed to take these people seriously? How
do you take is that America first?
Speaker 4: Is I.
Speaker 3: Mean, is America first bombing Yemen when we can, and
you know, and supporting Israel when they're just basically dropping
bombs on neighborhoods. And then they say, oh, well, you know,
we may have killed eight hundred babies today, but every
one of those babies had a terrorist hiding behind it. Okay,
I don't believe you. Okay, I don't believe you. Oh well,
you're an American. I'm an American because I don't believe
people from another country because I don't support another country
outside of America. I only support America. That's it. I
don't care about Israel. I want Israel to exist because
I want these people to have some place to go.
If they love Israel so much, to go there, go
live there. I'm willing to kill everyone around you as
long as you all leave. Just go back. If you
are somebody who supports Israel, Jewish or not, there, go there.
If you're willing to make excuses for I mean just
dropping bombs on residential buildings, you know, like they were doing,
and what they were doing in Birud, I mean in Lebanon,
I think it was. Yeah, Okay, then I mean go there.
Go there. You're not an American, sorry, You're just not
you know. And and if that means the president is
an American, so be it. I don't. I don't consider
anybody who has loyalty to another country to the point
where they're going to excuse what they're doing there and
they're going to make it so that if you speak
out against it, you have the possibility of getting arrested
and thrown in jail. Yeah, fuck that, really, fuck that,
and fuck you if that, if that's your attitude, really
come to I mean, say that ship to my face.
Let's say, really, I would love I would love for
you to do that. Come say that shit to my face.
I appear in public enough people, you fucking disgust me
beyond I mean beyond disgust. I mean, Howard the fuck
do you call yourself an American? You're not an American.
Thomas Jefferson would have freaking executed you on the White
House lawn.
Speaker 2: Of course, I you know, without a doubt, obviously I
agree because I'm I'm I'm to the level of when
when people ask me these questions, I tell them that, Well,
you have to understand, I'm coming from the viewpoint of
I still live in my country that's under occupation by
a foreign government. And I'm not talking about Israel. I'm
talking about the US federal government because my nation broke
away from them, and and now we're under foreign occupation.
So we've been under foreign occupation for uh going on
a couple hundred years.
Speaker 1: So Pete, you you've done it again.
Speaker 2: I feel like I could talk to you for hours
more about a lot of other topics, but we're already
twenty four minutes over.
Speaker 3: So it happens.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, we'll do it again, Pete.
Speaker 3: Where get going? I get going? You're not gonna stop me.
Speaker 1: Where can people go to check out more of your content?
Support you?
Speaker 3: The Pekanana Show. All podcatchers still on YouTube not not monetized,
of course. I think they keep me on YouTube just
so that it sort of dis credits me, because so
many people have been kicked off of YouTube. It's like,
let's keep it mind there because it discredits him. But
I'm also on Rumble and Odyssey, and I have a
Substackpete substack dot com and the Old Glory Club. It's
a bunch of us who care about the founding of
America and what it was founded for, and we came
together to promote that and to help other people educate
other people on just exactly what that means and for
the future of organizing, especially on the local level, because
I think that's what the future of this country is.
If you want liberty and you want freedom, you're going
to have to do it in a locale and you're
going to have to make your stand from there.
Speaker 1: Think local, like local. I've heard that somewhere.
Speaker 2: Well, on that note, Pete, I appreciate it, buddy. It's
always a great time.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Alan.
Speaker 2: Guys, we should be back to wrap up the show
right after this commercial break. Joy