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Speaker 1: Well, welcome back to the show, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Our guest this evening is, of course, the host of

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the Pete Kennas Show, which Pete, I've actually got a

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blast from the past for you are. I think you're

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our third longest running guest. Check this out, Pete. This

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is why I asked you if you could do this week,

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almost seven years to the day from episode eleven of

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The Gold Standard. There's Pete and I in simpler, happier

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times when.

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Speaker 3: Yep, we're probably just talking about Game of Thrones or

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something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I mean, in all fairness,

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you were calling yourself Mance and I at the time,

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I was a big Game of Thrones fan because I

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just you know, I didn't know yet what horrors yet

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awaited us, both in terms of the show and in

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terms of never ever, ever ever reading the end of

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the books.

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Speaker 1: But you're not going to trigger me into going to that.

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Pecanone as Welcome back to.

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Speaker 3: The show, doing good man, Thank you, thank you for

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having me back.

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Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to start off with I've seen all

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some of your really cool pictures on the internet.

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Speaker 3: You guys just recently got back from a vacation where'd

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you guys go. We went down to bou Kellyville. We

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wanted to L Salvador. We were down there for eight

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days and seven nights and stayed in Santa Salvador the

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whole time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what was the what was the motivation for

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L Salvador in particular? Did you just want to kind

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of get to check it out with your own eyes

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so everything going on in the news, or was it

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just genuinely an interesting vacation destination.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of both. It was mostly well, we

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wanted to get out of the count. You know, we

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had talked about doing an international trip and we were

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talking about Europe, and Europe is kind of dependent on

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where you go. It's kind of sad. I mean it's like,

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just go to like New York City and go to

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the Bronx or something like that. So yeah, I was

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just like, well, you know, let's let's stay within i mean,

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their central time, just like us. So it's like, yeah,

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let's fly, let's fly down there and see what happens

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and see what it's like. And we had a great

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time and we we stayed in like a boutique hotel

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that was still insanely cheap, much cheaper than than here,

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wasn't owned by Indians, which was, you know, just amazing

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for somebody who ye know, there's somebody who drives a

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lot and spends a lot of time and uh, you

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know the freeway side hotels, it's like, wow, this place

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was not owned by Indians. Holy crap. Well, I mean

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maybe some people could say like Native America, like Native

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America's Indians, there were some of those around, but it

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was it was really nice, and you know, it's still inexpensive,

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and yeah, I could just say that it's probably probably

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felt safer, you know at night walking around than most

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big cities that I've ever been to. There's a very

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there's an armed presence. They have like a civil guard,

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people with like openly carrying pistol grip shotguns all over

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the place. I mean, you know, if you walk for

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you know, if you walk for half a mile, you'll

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see a few and they have regular military carrying M

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sixteen's And I don't think it's I think it's really

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just a show of you know, FAFO right now because

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most of their violent criminals are in jail and they're

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never getting out, so you know, imagine, imagine that.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a that's an interesting point. Now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know you that guys were there for

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basically just a little over a week, but you you

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can't help but notice those things when you're out on

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Speaker 3: So let me.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I either of us really had

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a plan for tonight. I just figured we would just

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hang out and talk. But I think that this is

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an interesting point that I think when a lot of

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people see kind of what's just when you're only getting

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of what's gone on in l. Salvador, you know, people

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fall into the two camps of, oh, well, Boukel's doing

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a great job, he's cleaning up the streets, or oh

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Boukel's a tyrant. You know, look at look at the

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way he's manhandling people. This is a loss of civil liberties.

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that period of time that people were walking around the

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street in fear of their civil liberties or did you

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get the feeling that people were grateful.

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Speaker 3: They were there. We stayed right across the street from

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a mall and like a couple of nights right outside

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the mall. I mean there was literally like a party.

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know if it was planted. It almost seemed impromptu. I

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don't think that they were worried about getting arrested or

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anything like that. The only kind of We went to

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the National Museum and they had some art installations from

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the past couple of years, and you could tell that

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like typical shit lib kind of stuff. So I talked

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to there was a guy there. You know, there were

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a bunch of young people and when I say young people,

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I'm talking about early twenties who could answer questions. They

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spoke English, and that's where you hear the ship lib

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kind of thing. You hear the kind of thing that

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you've heard from shit libs in this country. Oh you know, well,

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there were some people who were arrested who weren't, you know,

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who weren't part of gangs and everything. They may have

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just only been friends with somebody in the gang. And

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you know, that's the kind of pushback you got. And

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but you know, you're in an art museum. What would

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you expect. What would you expect of somebody working in

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an art museum, So it seemed like the people on

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the outside and I just saw a video the I

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think it was yesterday, bu Kelly was at a rally

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or something like that, and all these people were excited

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to see them taking selfies with them. And they were

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all young. I mean, they were all in their twenties.

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So yeah, I don't think they're worried about their civil

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liberties being violated. I think they're enjoying their liberty. But

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they also understand that, you know, it came, it came

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at a price, and I think they're very grateful for

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the the price that was paid for that. Well.

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Speaker 2: If there's something I feel like I've noticed in recent

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months or years even, it's that, you know, even if

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you're looking at one specific demographic, like say young people ages,

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you know, twenty one to early twenties, mid twenties, you're

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even even with that, if you've a lot of people

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liberal when they're younger. You're going to find a lot

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of progressives that are that are younger. You know, when

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you're thinking of like protests on the street and throwing

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tomato juice on the paintings and blocking traffic, these are

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all young people, And I was like, well, there may

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be truth to that that there's a high percentage of

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those types of people who are also young, But I

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think it's it's a big split between because there's also

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a lot of young people in that age that get

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married and start families.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: But I think in my opinion, and you can correct

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me if you've had a different a different point of view,

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but from my perspective, the young twenty three to twenty

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eightish year olds who are starting starting careers, getting married,

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and starting families are not the same young people that

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you're seeing gluing themselves to statues and adopting progressivism.

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Speaker 1: What would you say to that, Well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would say that I'm mostly in a

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bubble when it comes to that. Most of the I guess,

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what we would call the zoomer generation that I deal

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they're like it. At holidays, there's a lot of kids

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there who are between like nineteen and twenty five. They're

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not particularly progressive. They're probably more conservative leaning. But you know,

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one thing that they do have is they all have jobs,

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they're getting married, they're buying houses. And these aren't people

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who they don't come from a rich family, you know.

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isn't the greatest thing if you're young, and people in

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a smaller town can find more opportunities, and you know,

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they can network better through people, especially if you know,

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as soon as they graduate high school, they don't move

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a move half away, half a country away to a

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really cool zip code so they can be in a

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cool place they can do they can sit around and

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they can stay in their area, network and build something.

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far as a culture goes. Maybe we're getting back to

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a culture of people who are not going to be

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so so excited about graduating high school and maybe graduating

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college and then moving moving to the big city or

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moving to the you know, a nice suburb zip code. Well,

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you know, maybe I'll stay around my family and build here,

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you know, because I think that from what I see

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and from you know, the people that I know, I

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don't hear people complaining that there aren't opportunities out there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I kind of wonder if it's if it can't

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just be simply the beast. And so maybe that goes

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a little ways towards explaining or that reverse. Maybe I'm

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supposed to seek knowledge and skills and then go apply

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them at home rather than go apply them for somewhere

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Speaker 1: Would you say that makes sense?

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Speaker 3: Sure? And I think there's also power in that. I

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think the well, the more you get like cities are

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just basically multicultural, multi racial, and there's no cohesion there

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when you're when you're when you stick around where you

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a tendency to be more tight knit, more homogeneous. And

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with political power. I think, you know, if you have that,

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you don't have as many special interest groups vying for

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special privileges and and things like that. And I think

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that's one of the one of the things that I've

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come recently to be a you know, when I've been

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for a while an opponent of multiculturalism and multi racialism

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in in areas, in localities, and I think a lot

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of it has to do with politics. Is we see

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it in this country. You know, Trump gets elected and

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everybody's like, oh, we voted for him, He's for us.

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his first term. Let's see, Well, he did every he

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did things for Israel. He pandered to the black population.

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I mean, he didn't pardon ross Albrick or or Edward

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Snowden or Julian Assange, but he pardoned a bunch of rappers.

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So you know, I think leadership and political leadership in

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multicultural and multi racial societies have a tendency to have

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being being pulled in different directions. So you know, the

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smaller area you can be in, the less of that

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politician has to deal with, it's actually even easier to

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it's a governor, and you know, it's easier to see

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as a you know, as somebody who who's part of

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that homogeneity. It's easier for you, whether it be cultural,

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whether it be whatever it is, it's easier for you

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to not have your interests cut off at the knees

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by competing interest groups.

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Speaker 1: Well, before we move.

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Speaker 2: On completely from from your El Salvador trip and talking

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about Boukel, I think a lot more Javier Melee and

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Argentina has gotten a lot more press I think, at

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least domestically here than Bukel has. And maybe it's because

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of the chainsaw stuff and the and and just the

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attitude and his press and all that. But of those two,

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which one do you think in the long term is

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going to be seen as the bigger success for his country.

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Speaker 3: I think bou Kelly will because he's I think the

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reason why a lot of Americans, and not only libertarian types,

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but a lot of Americans appeal They they look at

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me Lay and they see more. They just see more liberalism,

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they see more classical liberalism. Oh, cutting taxes, Oh this

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that he hasn't done. If he has done heavy handed stuff.

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protesting in the street, and I don't know that he

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like did what bou Kelly would do, or he just

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round them up and throw them in jail. And so

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people Americans can relate to that more because it's like, oh,

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you need to process and you know we have this history. Well, no,

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it doesn't work. And Malay is the problem I have

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with Malay is that what's going to happen when he's

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out of office are they going to elect another Malay,

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because that's not the history of most of most societies.

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When they have if they have great economic prosperity, they

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normally decide. And Sweden was like this at one point

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where they were just like an open you know, oh

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you know free markets and you know, well, why did

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a free market work in the Sweden? Well, I mean,

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everybody's related, there's no competing, the competing interests are reduced.

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I think that if Malay is not setting up a successor, Yeah,

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they talk about how, oh Trump needs a successor here

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and anything that's going to be jade events. If Malay's

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not setting up a successor to come in there and

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continue what he's doing, then you know what happens when

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he gets out of there. They vote in the same

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old people. That's like, oh, well we've had enough success.

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and we need to do more for the poor. That

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seems to be a a especially especially in Latin America.

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even happens in Northern European countries. But bou Kelly, I

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think bou Kelly is smart enough to know that if

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that country is going to succeed and it's going to

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become whatever his plan is for it, hoping he's not

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trying to make it like Ireland, where you know, in

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the aughts, Ireland, you know, like drop their corporate taxes

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to nothing. And then I was staying right around the

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corner from the gigantic Google building and I was like,

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that's not that's not a good sign because when you look,

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look what happens to Ireland. I mean Ireland, you know,

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twenty five years ago was a homogeneous country of Catholics.

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is a gay Indian mm hm is. I mean, what

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the hell? How does that happen? So I'm hoping that

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Boot Kelly, if he is trying to make it a

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tourist destination, or if he's trying to make it a

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place where companies can open up have headquarters, Central American

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headquarters or whatever, that he doesn't forget about the culture

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and he doesn't you know, and he has somebody set

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up to come in and replace him that that has

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the same kind of attitude he does, because and I

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think there is a better chance of that with him

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considering El Salvador was in a much worse situation than Argentina.

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will look and go oh no, Argentina was much worse

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because Argentina their economy, the economy, economy, economics, economics, economics.

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I mean like literally like one percent of the El

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Salvadorian population was being murdered every year. So it's like,

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we had we had inflation. In inflation bad that that destroys.

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I mean like murder, let's not talk about murder. Yeah,

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so he stopped murder. He stopped it from being the

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murder capital of the world and too good to being

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the safest country in the Western hemisphere. And yeah, I

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think people are going to probably want to keep that

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that that's going to be something that's going to be

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a little more important to the next generation. I hope.

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Then we need to keep inflation down because you know,

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if line don't go up, line needs to go up.

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If line no go up, it no good. We don't

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have no civilization. If line no, go.

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Speaker 1: Up, Well you you mention you missed of course the

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big T word Trump.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you about that. So you know,

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I always remember. And again maybe this is just kind

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of an impression of you know, social media or just

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media in general. But in some of some of the

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elections around the world, whether it's Bucelli or Miley or

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all that broad in Italy, always forget that, forget her name.

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But in some of these different, you know, political movements,

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people people like to say, oh, well, this is inspired

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by Trump. You know, all these different peoples around the

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world are seeing what what Maga has done and seeing

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the Trump movement in America and all these different political

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movements around the world inspired by Trump.

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Speaker 1: But uh not.

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Speaker 2: Not only do I not necessarily believe that, but I

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I tend to think just in the guys we've talked

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about so far, when you're comparing El Salvador, Argentina, and

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the United States, which of course are very different places.

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So it's not so much comparing the nation so much

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as just comparing you know, the leaders of those nations.

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Is it really that those guys inspired by Trump or

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is it actually more that Trump has largely failed to

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be quite as transformational as those guys have been the.

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Speaker 1: Other way around.

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Speaker 3: I would say the reason why you see people like

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bo Kelly Millay Orbon in Hungary, you see the rise

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of the AfD Party in Germany, and you see movements

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like that and Trump, is because people are just sick

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of this post war consensus. Bal And I think it's

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pretty obvious that you that it's very important, the post

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war consensus of oh, we're just liberals and we get

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to live. It's a multicultural culture land. You know. I

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remember Barbara Learner Specter, an American Jew, who went over

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to Sweden with her Madeira Ngi and said, what fifteen

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years ago that you know, Europe is not going to

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survive unless it becomes multicultural, and we're going to be

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blamed for that. Wow. Okay, that's interesting. I think people

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are sick of this. I think people the reason you

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see all of this is because it's unsustainable. And when

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you see someone like Darryl Cooper and being called a

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Nazi because he went on Tucker and then he went

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on Joe Rogan and he said things that were in

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the nineteen fifties, you could argue that Churchill was, you know,

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a bum and people would say that Churchill was a drunk.

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Everyone knew that Churchill was in debt and was basically

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the slave of whoever would pay off his debts. Everyone

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would everyone knew that. And you see the way people

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are reacting to it, and you see that there are

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people on both sides fighting that completely agree that the

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postwar cans census needs to be destroyed. And then you

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see people who are fighting tooth and nail and they're

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calling Darryl Cooper a Nazi and a Nazi apologist because

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he said, you know, because he says things like, you know,

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maybe that war didn't need to be fought, maybe the

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United States didn't need to get involved, and you know,

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maybe maybe Russia was planning to invade, was planning to

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invade the European continent, like Victor Suberov said in the

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book Ice Breaker, like I mean, it lays out an

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incredible argument for I think that's what you're seeing. And

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I think that that's just what they call the spirit

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of the age. Is the spirit of the age where

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we're in, is this postwar consensus that you know, no

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one can be too right wing. You know, we can

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have people who are openly communist. I mean, like literally

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call themselves communist Marxist and they can work in the government.

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But if somebody calls themselves a national socialist, well they

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can't even have a bank account.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the post war consensus, being too, you know,

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being too it's my people. I care about my people,

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and I care about my people enough that if you

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try and hurt my people, and if you have been

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hurting my people, I'll start, you know, I will kick

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you out of this country. I will demonize you and

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kick you out of this country, kick you out of

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our country. I mean, that's the worst thing possible to

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care about your own people. I mean that's the third rail,

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saying that you have you know not and everyone Europeans

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saying that they care about other European people and that

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they have something in common and they have interests. And

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I think that that's what you're seeing. I think that's

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part of what's happening with Trump. I think Trump is

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much more complicated. The reason for his rise is much

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more complicated than Malay In you know, in Argentina, which

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is a mostly Spanish country, and in El Salvador, which

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is you know, almost universally l Salvadorian monocultural societies. You know,

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this country is much different. The problems we have here

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run a lot deeper than in those places. So, you know,

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I don't even see Trump as an answer. I see

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Trump as a sign. You know. I think he can

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get some things done that will actually help us, help

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the average person. But I don't see him curing curing

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our ills, you know, any problems that we have, he has. Way,

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there are way too many special interests, elite groups, and

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too many groups with money who can pull his strings

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and you know, move him in one direction in the other.

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So to me, it's always been and I know it's

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kind of a trope, but Trump is just really a signal,

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but he's not the answer.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, to call out the elephant

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in the room. Those those a few things I had

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in my notes. I want to make sure we touched

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on before we get too far out of time. I

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know that as as we speak, they're they're allegedly getting

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ready to do this massive dump of JFK files, which

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I don't know how anyone could be excited for that

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with when you see the way the whole Epstein thing

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went down, when you see all those grifters walking out

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of the White House with their binders filled with nothing like,

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with absolutely no information whatsoever. And of course you know,

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also the same week, you know, you and I had

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spoke briefly earlier in the week that you know, we'll

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be lucky if we get to do this show and

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we're not at war with Iran by the time you

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and I sit down to talk, because we're bombing Yeming

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because there's supposedly we're protecting shipping from all these horrible pirates.

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And then of course, you know, just this past week

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with the cr that was the whole big showdown between

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Trump and Massy Thomas Massey from Kentucky, and you know,

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to call out the elephant of the room there, there's

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there's a little bit of a link between all of

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those individual things. And hearkening back to, well, what's what's

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one major difference between kind of Trump and America versus

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a lot of these other examples you've given. It's that

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it's it's it's a link to this to this funny

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little nation over in the Middle East. I know you

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know where I'm going with that. I think at the

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end of the day, we all knew going in you

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had already mentioned a short list of things that Trump

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had promised in the first that didn't work out in

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the Trump one point oh that people then had hopes

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that Trump two point oh would be better. And there

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have been some good things in Trump two point oh.

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You know you mentioned Ross wasn't pardoned in the first one.

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He was pardoned in this one, just as one example.

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But we all knew going in that if things could

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get better domestically, than great, But the huge red flag

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would always be the Addleson's and Trump's connections with Israel.

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And now here we are, what eight weeks into the

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new administration, we're now starting to see that red flag

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tape center stage.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean we knew it was there. Yeah. And

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also the j six prisoners being pardoned. I think that's huge, yes,

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because I mean, as as Darryl Cooper has said, he said,

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it wasn't an insurrection, but you know he wishes it

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would have been, sure, Yeah, and that they would have

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done something because you know, this country proved just how

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lost it is and maybe lost forever because Jeffrey Epstein

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was killed in a jail sell and there wasn't a

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revolution because of it. Yeah, you know that that should

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have been the last straw. And you know, or are

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we going to see Epstein file? Yeah? Are we going

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to see the JIK files. I don't think we're going

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to see them all. No, I think we're going to

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see I mean maybe the only thing that makes me

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think maybe they do is we will is because Glenn

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Beck is playing damage control already. It's not about the

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who did it, it's about the why and what happened.

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So you know, and anybody who knows anything about Glenn

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Beck and some of the absolutely insane things he said

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after October seventh, twenty twenty three, maybe maybe he knows something,

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maybe he doesn't. Who knows, But I mean, I just

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don't know what to expect from this because you know,

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our greatest ally is implicated with Epstein. Our greatest ally

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is going to be implicated with It is going to

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be it mentioned in the JFK files. I've heard from

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people who've seen them that they know this, that this

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is I know, people who know who the shooter was, like, like,

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they know the names of the people who pulled the trigger.

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These things are not secret. They have been leaked before,

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but it were cleaned up very quickly. I mean, this

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all points to Israel, and I don't even know that

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it matters. I think we're at such a point where,

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like boomers and a lot of unfortunate early gen xers,

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or it could come out that Israel was responsible for

477
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,359
killing the president of the United States or at least

478
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,359
helped planet and that they were blackmailing Americans into committing

479
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:55,759
treason by orchestrating them having sex with children. And I

480
00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:59,720
think a lot of people won't even care. I mean,

481
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:07,000
so sure we see the I mean I can run

482
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:08,559
down a whole list I have in my head of

483
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:12,799
people who belong in jail right now, you know, the

484
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:17,400
clearest clear some of them. Adam Kinsinger and a bunch

485
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,759
of these people. They should be in GIMO. I mean, really,

486
00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:26,079
they should be getting the Rosenberg treatment. But I just

487
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,160
don't see this happening. I don't see, you know. And

488
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,279
I'm not one of these people who the whole Marriam

489
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:37,480
Adelson giving one hundred million dollars and everything like that,

490
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,480
that's not even necessary. Yeah. I remember talking to Jeremy R. Hammond,

491
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,880
and you know, he wrote a book called Obstacle to

492
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,839
Peace about Israel Palestine, and he said, you don't even

493
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:55,759
need APEC. Christian evangelicals in this country are so brainwashed

494
00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:00,640
into thinking, oh, the greatest ally and Boomer and there

495
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,599
our greatest ally is why would the Houthis attack our shipping? Oh?

496
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,799
I don't know. Maybe there was this proxy war where

497
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:13,000
the United States completely armed and gave plane, gave bombers

498
00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:18,680
and jets and fighter planes to Saudi Arabia, taught him

499
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,680
how to taught him how to target, and went in

500
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:25,880
and like destroyed Yemen to the point where like cholera,

501
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,720
something that hadn't seen in fifty to sixty years, came

502
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:33,599
back and they were targeting you know, infrastructure like hospitals

503
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:38,359
and water treatment plants. I mean, maybe we've forgotten about that.

504
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,200
They haven't, I haven't. You know if the first thing

505
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,359
Trump should have done, one of the first things he

506
00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:47,400
should have done was he should have sent a delegation

507
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,519
to bringing Yemen and said, look, things have been you know, sorry,

508
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:57,240
we did all this. What do we need to do.

509
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,079
How do we make it so that we can have

510
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,880
commerce through the streets again? What do you need I

511
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,920
mean payback? It's like, oh, they're attacked, why would they attack?

512
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:10,240
It's like, first of all, as far as far as

513
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,759
I understand, they have never attacked a commercial ship, an

514
00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:15,640
American commercial ship. Now, I know a lot of ships

515
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,160
are have different ports of call and everything, or you know,

516
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,079
they're registered in other countries because of the Jones Act

517
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:27,960
and everything. That's neither here nor there. But the why

518
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,079
would they attack the American military ships? Oh, I don't know.

519
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,960
I mean maybe this thing called you know, the Saudi's

520
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,920
just destroying them in the United States telling them how

521
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:49,079
to do it. I mean, h I the people who

522
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:57,640
instinctively jumped to our greatest ally, they don't realize that.

523
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,559
I mean literally, we're since World War Two, we've been

524
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:06,519
controlled and even before World War Two. Basically look at

525
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:10,200
Biden's cabinet, it was this sixty to eighty percent of

526
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:16,799
it had Oh I don't know, names that sound like

527
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,640
names that you might find in Israel. Sure, yeah, they

528
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:27,920
of the Secretary of State after October seventh went to Jerusalem,

529
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,519
went into the Kanesset and said, I'm here as a Jew,

530
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:35,799
not I'm here as the American Secretary of State, I'm

531
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:42,519
here as a Jew. Yeah, I mean, everybody's get into conspiracy.

532
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,039
Let's get into conspiracy theory. Land we've been an occupied

533
00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,880
government by a foreign power for a very long time.

534
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:53,440
And all Israel is is a land based aircraft carrier

535
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,279
in the Middle East. Yeah, that's it. That's all it is.

536
00:32:57,759 --> 00:33:06,440
And what does that bring us attacks? Hatred? Because why

537
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:11,119
what is our what would an American? Well, if you

538
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:14,680
believe in the founding of this country, if you're a constant,

539
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:17,480
all we need to do is go back to the constitution.

540
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:19,599
All we need to do is go back to the

541
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,920
Articles of Confederation. Well, yeah, what did those people say,

542
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:30,720
no binding alliances? Sure, I'm it's And people say, oh,

543
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:36,839
you know, talking about this is so low IQ. Really

544
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:47,480
so Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, Martin Luther, Thomas aquinas people

545
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:51,759
throughout the twentieth century, these were low IQ people. Oh

546
00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:53,519
and we're not supposed to look to them and see

547
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:56,640
what they wrote, or how about I just study their

548
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:02,440
own history and read their own books. Jewish virtual Encyclopedias online,

549
00:34:02,599 --> 00:34:05,240
It's one of my favorite resources. I have access to

550
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:09,280
the older ones too. I'm reading on my I'm up

551
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,760
to episode nineteen with a Russian scholar of reading two

552
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,599
hundred Years Together by Alexander Soulshanisan, which is the history

553
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,679
of the history of the Jews in Russia from seventeen

554
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,880
ninety five to nineteen ninety five. I'm studying, I'm looking

555
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:31,280
at the history, and I'm seeing this happens over and

556
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,960
over and over again. You can't let this little country

557
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,360
control us. And then there are these people who are like, well,

558
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,400
actually we control them, Okay, run with that. We've been

559
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,400
under occupation for eighty years, so we control them. Great,

560
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,360
same thing, it's reciprocal. And then you have the city

561
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,239
of London. It's this big triangle. It's all the same thing,

562
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,639
all controlled by the same people. So what do we

563
00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:08,039
do We Putin doesn't have this problem. They're in Russia.

564
00:35:08,599 --> 00:35:13,440
They don't have they don't have control there. Well, why

565
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:18,679
because he didn't fucking let him. Yeah, when he you know,

566
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:21,119
when he was elected in the nineties, there were these

567
00:35:21,159 --> 00:35:24,639
oligarchs in the country who were divvying up the country

568
00:35:24,679 --> 00:35:29,360
to the point where the average lifespan of a Russian

569
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,840
male had been reduced twenty years. And he chased them out,

570
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,159
and he drove them out, and the ones he didn't

571
00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:40,719
drive out, he put under his heel and made him

572
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,159
work for them. Well, where did they escape to New York? City, London,

573
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:54,760
tel Aviv, Okay, Kiev, Okay. So there's the elephant you

574
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,000
want to talk about. You want to talk about the

575
00:35:56,039 --> 00:35:58,000
elephant in the room. There's the elephant in the room.

576
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:00,000
I just laid it out for you. Now go ahead

577
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,719
and call me low IQ because you don't want to

578
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,679
have a conversation with me, because I know this. I'm

579
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,440
going to give you dates, and I'm going to give

580
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,440
you names, and I'm going to give you treaties and

581
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:13,280
I'm going to give you the history that you don't

582
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,840
know because you're just like I have to. I have

583
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,559
to judge everybody as an individual, because no groups ever

584
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:31,960
come together and organize in their own self interest, right libertarians.

585
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: That's this has given me too many follow up questions

586
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,719
in one in one spiels. I'm gonna I'm going to

587
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,880
try to remember a few of them. So I was

588
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,880
reminded as you were saying, because you had mentioned, you know,

589
00:36:46,039 --> 00:36:49,800
kind of that that people that if there were these revelations,

590
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,880
if some things did come out, that you feel like

591
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,519
people just wouldn't care because look, look at the things

592
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:57,519
that people know now, like we've all seen the graphics

593
00:36:57,559 --> 00:37:01,119
of you know, here's here's three quarters of some of

594
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:05,960
the most powerful and influential American politicians, and and all

595
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,079
the ones that have dual you know, dual citizenship with Israel,

596
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,960
which is you know, I think one is one too many,

597
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,119
but that's it's a lot. And then you think, you

598
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:17,800
think it's just some of the other just run of

599
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,280
the mill grift right like you think of you know,

600
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,199
when the when the Nancy Pelosis and Elizabeth Warns of

601
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,800
the world go into politics, making you know, one hundred

602
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,119
thousand dollars a year, and then after twenty years they

603
00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:32,559
have a couple of hundred million dollars. Everyone knows that, right,

604
00:37:32,639 --> 00:37:35,159
Like we all know that they're robbing people blind and

605
00:37:35,199 --> 00:37:39,639
doing insider training and accepting bribes and all that. And

606
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:41,920
of course there's you know one one that I always

607
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,440
love to mention, you know, there's you know that Congress

608
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:48,119
literally has a fund to set aside just to settle

609
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:51,960
all the sexual impropriety cases with you know, with with

610
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:55,320
congressmen and senators. So these these people just just just

611
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,119
rape and abuse with impunity, and the government just pays

612
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:01,760
their tab, you know. Again, So I you know, and

613
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,360
I'm just simply listing things like this.

614
00:38:03,639 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 3: In the state bro. Say in the state bro, and

615
00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:08,960
that's not going to happen anymore. Just end the state bro.

616
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: So all of these things are things that people know,

617
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,480
like this is all you know common not You can

618
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:17,360
google any of those things and see that it's true

619
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,639
in fifteen seconds. But yet all those people get reelected though, right,

620
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,679
So the public at large knows knows these things, and

621
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,320
yet incumbents whin like what ninety two percent of their

622
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,760
races or some ridiculous number like that, So you know

623
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,760
that they do those things, and yet you reelect them.

624
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:36,159
But you also mentioned I know, you brought up Russia

625
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:38,199
and Putin and that he doesn't have some of these

626
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:41,760
same specific issues that a that a Trump has or

627
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,639
even maybe a Melee has, But you also mentioned that, well,

628
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:49,559
I you know, you know who's Trump's successor going to be?

629
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:51,199
Is it going to be jd Vance, Is that going

630
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,840
to be Maga two point zero or is that going

631
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,440
to be something different? And that's a I don't know

632
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,519
if we even have time to go into that. You're

633
00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:59,400
wondering if is Bucelli going to have a successor does

634
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,840
Putin have a successor? Is there someone coming? If Putin

635
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,719
had a heart attack and died. Today, who's taken over Russia.

636
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 3: I think there's a better chance of Putin having a

637
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:15,360
successor who will continue his legacy of, you know, basically

638
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,559
telling the West to go screw themselves, because that's just

639
00:39:19,639 --> 00:39:23,159
basically their culture. You know, their culture is where Russians

640
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:27,599
we want to. I think Russians know their history, you know,

641
00:39:27,679 --> 00:39:29,719
like I said, I'm reading this book two hundred years

642
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:35,239
Together that Alexander Solshanisan wrote. It's the book that Jordan

643
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,360
Peterson won't talk about, and there's a reason why it

644
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,960
hasn't been officially translated into English yet. I think they

645
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,239
know their history. I think they know that if they

646
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,840
allow people who are not Russian to take over or

647
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,599
come in and have influence, they lose who they are

648
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:57,119
as Russians. And they're already succumbing to that. I mean,

649
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,960
it's hard for the to keep the West out, but

650
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:03,719
I think Putin has there's a better chance of that

651
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,599
happening with Putin. I mean, look at Putin. Putin has.

652
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,320
I'm sure you've probably seen interviews with Sergei Lavrov, his

653
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,960
foreign minister. He's probably the greatest statesman in the world.

654
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:23,480
I mean, no, hands down he's knows knows that knows

655
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:31,639
how to negotiate, has only Russia's interest when he talks,

656
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,159
and he is somebody who when he comes into a room,

657
00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:42,199
he commands it and you know that he's a serious person.

658
00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:45,000
See that. This is the reason why I think a

659
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:48,559
lot of people don't like Putin and don't like Lavrov,

660
00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:52,320
and don't like didn't even like Medvedev. These are serious

661
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:59,920
people we there, Yes, have have they had people killed,

662
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:06,079
probably most likely so of we, so of our leaders.

663
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:14,440
Our leaders have killed millions just for interests, for commerce,

664
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:20,840
for for minerals, for ethnic ethnic animosities that go back

665
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,599
centuries by certain groups that have taken over, taken, taken

666
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:29,400
over influence in this government. But I think that they

667
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:37,599
genuinely are serious people. I mean, who takes I mean Crenshaw,

668
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,000
He's literally a comic book villain. He has a friggin'

669
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:43,800
eye patch.

670
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you take that seriously? How do you

671
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,880
take Nancy Pelosi seriously? I mean she's a doddering old

672
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,599
fool and drunk half the time. How do you take

673
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:57,960
how do you take any of these people? Our president

674
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:03,800
literally used to run a reality show. The president of

675
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,880
Ukraine was on TV as the President of Ukraine, but

676
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:13,159
he literally became the character that he was on TV

677
00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:18,800
with the same freaking path. And then you look and

678
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,760
you're like, how did Putin? You know, well, Putin was

679
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:27,000
former KGB Saint Peter's at Saint Petersburg unit, probably the

680
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,480
eastbro probably East Berlin as well. You look at Lavrov,

681
00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:35,119
you look at I mean, these are people who they're serious,

682
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:41,079
people who care who. I don't think they can be

683
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:45,119
bought off by foreign powers. I think they would probably

684
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,480
get catch a bullet if they were bought off by

685
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:52,360
far foreign powers. So I mean, does is Putin going

686
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,920
to have this goes back to is Putin going to

687
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,639
have a successor?

688
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: Probably? I don't know who that is yet. I haven't

689
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,400
looked into it enough. I actually know some Russian experts

690
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:07,880
that probably could have a good opinion on that. But

691
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:11,280
ever since this whole thing started in you know, February

692
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,440
of twenty twenty two, and you know, I mean the

693
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,000
history of Ukraine started in February twenty twenty two. Don't

694
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:18,400
let anybody try and tell you anything happened before that.

695
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:26,840
People have been saying, oh, Putin has like cerebral palsy.

696
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,639
I mean like all this, I don't know. He seems

697
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:34,119
to be doing pretty good. Sure, yeah, he's an old guy,

698
00:43:34,159 --> 00:43:36,199
but I mean I wouldn't want to mess with him.

699
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:44,400
I think they just maybe they look at him as

700
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,519
somebody who they're like jealous of, kind of deep in

701
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:51,800
their subconscious because he's actually like working for his own country.

702
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,840
Are there going to be interested he has that? Sure, yeah,

703
00:43:56,039 --> 00:43:58,599
that's any politician is going to have that. They'll be

704
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:02,920
outside interest that, you know. But I mean we know

705
00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:06,000
that everything is bought and paid for. We can look

706
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:10,159
and see that. You know, APAC owns Don Bacon out

707
00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:12,719
of Nebraska one point. I mean, a guy you've never

708
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,960
heard of, a congressman you've never heard of, is taken

709
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:18,440
one point three million dollars from a pack. We know

710
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that from Thomas Massey, that everybody in Congress is at

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APAC babysitter. We know that even people who don't who

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haven't taken, they're taking money from, you know, from some

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kind of special interest that they're going to work for.

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I remember Terry mccalliffe was the head of the d

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n C. I think he stepped down in like two

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thousand and four, and he was big into eighty five

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fuel corn and it's crazy when he stepped down and

718
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like what wasn't no longer in office, he was like

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appointed to the board of like all these agricultural companies.

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It's it's just, I mean, how does that happen? I

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don't know. I just think that we're just not a

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serious country, and it's we're just an open air strip

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mall and yeah, and basically an auction an open air

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auction house where everything gets auctioned off to the highest bidder.

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And then people look at something like Russia and they're like, well, yeah,

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that happens, but not on the scale that of here.

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And I just think they're jealous and they're like, you know,

728
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and they're always I mean think about I mean, Putin

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has way more self control than I would. If I

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was president of Russia, I would have invaded Ukraine in

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twenty fourteen. I wouldn't he allowed anywhere from twelve thousand

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to thirty thousand of his own of ethnic Russians to

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be killed in Ukraine. By that the same if you

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really know you're Ukraine politics, it's the same people who

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controlled this government, I mean, who pushed a war, Victoria Newlin,

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Robert Kagan, Alexander Vinman. Where are they all from? Oh, Ukraine,

737
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all their families come from Ukraine historically crazy. Oh that's wild.

738
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You think that maybe this is ethnic animosity for a

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pogram that happened in sixty and forty eight, which really

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wasn't a pogram. It was a bunch of Jews who

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rose up and started killing people because they thought their

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Messiah was coming. And the Cossack Kimlnitsky had to put

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together a group to stop these people. But oh, we

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got pogrammed. You're murdering people. Okay, that's that's You want

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to know the Ukraine War. You want to know why

746
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Victorian Newland and Vinmn and all these people, or you know,

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00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,320
like hate Russia and don't mind seeing Ukrainian a million

748
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Ukrainians die in two hundred thousand or how many of

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Russians die, and they don't mind seeing Christians kill each other.

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I think that lastly, they wanted it that way.

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Speaker 2: I think that last point right there is the one

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that really gets me. You know, I've never claimed to

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be a deeply religious person, but I continue to be

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blown away at all over the world, whether it's Eastern Europe,

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where the Middle East. Obviously, It's also happened in South America.

756
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It's happened in Europe, where lots of places where interests

757
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within the US direct foreign policy to affect or destabilize regions,

758
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and the effect always just so happens to be a

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bunch of dead Christians and it's hanged the Banner's mission accomplished.

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How can a Christian population in the United States stomach

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that time and time and time.

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Speaker 3: Again ignorant there? Do you know you're familiar with the

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terms scatology, yes, obviously, and study of the end times. Yeah,

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they've been they've been convinced that this group that has

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taken over and basically taken this piece of land hostage

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in the Middle East has something to do with Jesus

767
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coming back. It's as simple as I can put it.

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Speaker 1: And that's it.

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Speaker 3: I I that that Representative Don Bacon on Twitter. He

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was going off about how we need to do anything

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we can to support Israel, and I said, Don, and

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I tweeted this at him, and I can't believe he

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responds to me. I said, Don, one of these countries

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has to disappear. Choose a the United States be Israel?

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Pick one? And his answer to me was read the

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Book of Revelations.

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Speaker 1: I saw that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, first of all, it's the Book of Rebels.

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So I don't even believe this guy believes. I think

780
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it's all money to him, Like I said, one point

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three million from APEC. I don't even know that he's

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he's a Christian or practical or believes anything. But yeah,

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he basically said he admitted to me and to the

784
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world on Twitter that he would rather see the United

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States destroyed than Israel. And he is an elected official here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not just crank. He's a US representative.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's an elect he's he is a US

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representative to Nebraska who sits in Congress in Washington, d C.

789
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Not a state representative, national representative. There's your I mean,

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how are you supposed to take these people seriously? How

791
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do you take is that America first?

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Speaker 4: Is I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, is America first bombing Yemen when we can, and

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you know, and supporting Israel when they're just basically dropping

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bombs on neighborhoods. And then they say, oh, well, you know,

796
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we may have killed eight hundred babies today, but every

797
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one of those babies had a terrorist hiding behind it. Okay,

798
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I don't believe you. Okay, I don't believe you. Oh well,

799
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you're an American. I'm an American because I don't believe

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people from another country because I don't support another country

801
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outside of America. I only support America. That's it. I

802
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don't care about Israel. I want Israel to exist because

803
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I want these people to have some place to go.

804
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If they love Israel so much, to go there, go

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live there. I'm willing to kill everyone around you as

806
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long as you all leave. Just go back. If you

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are somebody who supports Israel, Jewish or not, there, go there.

808
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If you're willing to make excuses for I mean just

809
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dropping bombs on residential buildings, you know, like they were doing,

810
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and what they were doing in Birud, I mean in Lebanon,

811
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I think it was. Yeah, Okay, then I mean go there.

812
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Go there. You're not an American, sorry, You're just not

813
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you know. And and if that means the president is

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an American, so be it. I don't. I don't consider

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anybody who has loyalty to another country to the point

816
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where they're going to excuse what they're doing there and

817
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they're going to make it so that if you speak

818
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,559
out against it, you have the possibility of getting arrested

819
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and thrown in jail. Yeah, fuck that, really, fuck that,

820
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and fuck you if that, if that's your attitude, really

821
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come to I mean, say that ship to my face.

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Let's say, really, I would love I would love for

823
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,920
you to do that. Come say that shit to my face.

824
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:14,039
I appear in public enough people, you fucking disgust me

825
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:19,199
beyond I mean beyond disgust. I mean, Howard the fuck

826
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,039
do you call yourself an American? You're not an American.

827
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Thomas Jefferson would have freaking executed you on the White

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House lawn.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I you know, without a doubt, obviously I

830
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agree because I'm I'm I'm to the level of when

831
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when people ask me these questions, I tell them that, Well,

832
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you have to understand, I'm coming from the viewpoint of

833
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,679
I still live in my country that's under occupation by

834
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a foreign government. And I'm not talking about Israel. I'm

835
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talking about the US federal government because my nation broke

836
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,239
away from them, and and now we're under foreign occupation.

837
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So we've been under foreign occupation for uh going on

838
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a couple hundred years.

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Speaker 1: So Pete, you you've done it again.

840
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Speaker 2: I feel like I could talk to you for hours

841
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,960
more about a lot of other topics, but we're already

842
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twenty four minutes over.

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Speaker 3: So it happens.

844
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, we'll do it again, Pete.

845
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Speaker 3: Where get going? I get going? You're not gonna stop me.

846
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Speaker 1: Where can people go to check out more of your content?

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Support you?

848
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 3: The Pekanana Show. All podcatchers still on YouTube not not monetized,

849
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,760
of course. I think they keep me on YouTube just

850
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,039
so that it sort of dis credits me, because so

851
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:33,960
many people have been kicked off of YouTube. It's like,

852
00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:36,320
let's keep it mind there because it discredits him. But

853
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I'm also on Rumble and Odyssey, and I have a

854
00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:45,400
Substackpete substack dot com and the Old Glory Club. It's

855
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,920
a bunch of us who care about the founding of

856
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,760
America and what it was founded for, and we came

857
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:58,079
together to promote that and to help other people educate

858
00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:02,400
other people on just exactly what that means and for

859
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,639
the future of organizing, especially on the local level, because

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I think that's what the future of this country is.

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If you want liberty and you want freedom, you're going

862
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to have to do it in a locale and you're

863
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,400
going to have to make your stand from there.

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Speaker 1: Think local, like local. I've heard that somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Well, on that note, Pete, I appreciate it, buddy. It's

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always a great time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Alan.

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Speaker 2: Guys, we should be back to wrap up the show

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right after this commercial break. Joy