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You went to see ACDC did Wednesday the last concert
in the United States of America, Cleveland, Ohio, Wednesday night,
fifty thousand people.
Speaker 3: I read a couple of reviews.
Speaker 2: What was it like being part of the crowd when
ac DC he took the stage.
Speaker 3: It is fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: It's you four.
Speaker 3: It's the greatest rock band ever.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right?
Speaker 2: In my opinion, yes, yes, that's fine. I'm not even
I'm not even gonna argue that.
Speaker 1: Okay. I will not agree with it, though, But there's
this communal sense of.
Speaker 2: Euphoria with live music, and I think, like that's why
people go to concerts.
Speaker 1: And I talk about you know, vibration and energy.
Speaker 2: You can't be in a bad spot when the band
takes the stage. It's like every you it's the most
fountain of youth.
Speaker 3: Go to your favorite band, turning back, turning back time. Sure,
I was. I was on that treadmill. I'm wrestling. I'm
Division one wrestling all over again. I'm rocking out Daisy DC.
I'm bouncing around like a madman. I'm feeling great. They
had their intro was uh, a charger driving on a
highway and showing little clips, and then the camera actually
comes out to the front row. I mean they say,
going to Cleveland. Everybody's and once the camera gets to
the front row, they come out and they started with
if you want Blood, and then all it was was
Brian John's going Cleveland. We haven't seen you for a while.
We're gonna do what we know I'm gonna do. I'll
never rock and roll with you. Yeah, that was it.
Rest was all music awesome. How long was the show
two hours and nineteen minutes. Yeah, that's pretty good. Twenty
twenty one songs and he's did a twenty minute guitar
solo at the end. He still did his spin round
thing stage that lifted, went back and forth, never a
dull moment, and gosh, I hope they tour again.
Speaker 2: Well, aging musicians to me are redefining music, performance, resilience,
all that. I mean they to me this them take
the stones there and then what seventies?
Speaker 1: Yes, because this is seventy.
Speaker 2: I mean, did it strike you how long ACDC has
been doing this while you're watching it?
Speaker 3: Six decades?
Speaker 1: I think, did you think all you're watching? I knew
that already.
Speaker 3: I mean when they started in Australia.
Speaker 1: And if in your opinion, did they still have the
same energy?
Speaker 3: Yes, well, you know, even reading the reviews, the only
two left are well not left, but in the band
was Brian Jahns Angis young right, So in the review
the drummer, rhythm guitarist and Bassis they just sat back
and they said they did what they needed to do,
just play the music. Yeah, everybody was focused on Brian
and Angus going back and forth and pleasing the playing
into the crowd.
Speaker 2: Brian isn't an original member of the band either. He isn't,
no no interesting guy. I like it, Brian, Yeah, I
mean his voice.
Speaker 3: I didn't hear anybody say.
Speaker 1: What do you think keeps these guys going because I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: What else are they gonna do?
Speaker 1: It's a great question, you know what I mean? You
see people okay, like it's.
Speaker 3: Fifty fifty thousand at Cleveland. I mean they're they're getting
fifty two one hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, right because you go seventies eighties rockers are
still going strong. You've got Paul McCartney and eighty to
eighty three years old still out there performing, and I
don't know how good he is or isn't. There's ways
to cover up things. A lot of people with the Stones.
I was very drunk, so clearly, yeah, clearly I have
a problem. But people I know at the same show
were much closer and like, yeah, Keith was just kind
of laid back and other.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't tell.
Speaker 3: You know what I could people tell saying that just
keep it to yourself.
Speaker 1: Don't don't, don't ruin it for the rest.
Speaker 3: Don't Monday, my Sunday, my friend.
Speaker 2: You know, yes, that's a great that's a song by
a a friend of mine, my friend of my brothers.
Excuse me, not mine, Chris Trapper, Okay, my friend Jeffrey,
don't Monday your Sunday, don't.
Speaker 3: Monday my Sunday.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I had a great time, I will give you
we uh. I was bringing a friend back from Cleveland
or Kentucky, and it took us. She drove three hours
from Kentucky to Louisville and I drove the rest five
hours to Cleveland. Usually i'll pick her up in Nashville
and that's a twelve hour drive, which I do straight through.
Let's just get but a CDC was playing, so we
worked around. Then then looking at my phone, we're going
through Progressive Field and they're playing next day. So it
took us an hour, probably an hour and a half
to find a hotel. First one she booked was on
the outskirts and just shitty. Should do a little more reconnaissance,
information whatever to get deeper in the city. But if
you get closer the prices go up that you have
to pay for parking. So we got someplace. It was
about a twenty five dollar uber ride in the city.
So anyways, next day we go to Progressive Field and
the Dodgers are playing The Guardians with formerly the Indians,
but there was like three or four Hall of Famers playing.
Saw a home run, great game Kershaw was pitching, which
I didn't know until I saw the highlights the next day.
So we get there. We get to the box office
and I said, I just need two tickets. Yeah, you
gotta scan huh, Yeah, you have to scan the code
and get your tickets. I'm like, this is a box office. Yeah,
but we only do scanning now, Okay, so I'm scanning.
We got there the third inning. By the time I
figured it out, got my tickets. We didn't sit under
the fifth any Wow. And there's four people and they
asked me to write a review. I'm like, this sucks.
I'm like a grandfather not technically challenge, or that is
technically challenge, isn't gonna be able to take his grandson
and figure it out. I said, you had four people
at the gate, none of which knew how to help me.
I was asking other people, why is this not working?
Where am I going? Finally I figured it out and
we were up section five thirty. Great little stadium. I
would love to go back. And it was a great venue,
great teams, great day. But they frustration, Yeah, of just wanting.
Speaker 2: Tickets, it's not and it's everywhere, Well it's everywhere now
and it's the new economy, and people aren't even carrying
their credit cards anymore. They're just carrying their phone, which
has everything. And it's also maybe a little scary, I
you know what I mean when you think of the
dangers and things of that.
Speaker 1: But take it.
Speaker 3: And I know I'm sorry to interrupt, but I know
one thing, and this happened to me a few years ago.
I had a flat tire and he needed forty dollars
in cash to help me out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So if you don't have cash on you some instances, right,
you're gonna be screwed. They're not gonna take Venmo or
Paintpal or whatever. Why cash is king, So go ahead
with I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sure that's the way I think in these
cases too.
Speaker 1: It cuts down on fraud.
Speaker 2: Not that people are scary, you know, scamming tickets, but
there are probably It's happened in the past. This is
just a safer way for everybody to do it. It's frustrating though,
when you're not prepared, right, when you're not prepared for
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Speaker 3: She's just like Fairport everything every.
Speaker 1: I said to my son because he he want.
Speaker 2: He has a friend and they do urban exploring from
time to time, urban exploring, and so they go into
like abandoned buildings and they take these pictures.
Speaker 1: And there's all this cool shit, and it is cool.
Speaker 2: I've been a little more pulling them back from that,
but they wound up once. I had to pick him
up in the city and they go, I.
Speaker 1: Go, where are you? I'm on J Street and I go,
my sphiner gets tight because I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, I don't know what's happening. And he
got two what I'm gonna say, or three naive suburban kids,
but maybe not. I mean, my kid's a little more
street savvy and spend almost a street boot camp in
the South. So he he had found a place there
and I don't want to say the name of it
because I'm not.
Speaker 1: Sure, h.
Speaker 2: Doug, I don't know. It was closer to the stadium. Yeah,
so I went to Mount Red and then way down
it was toward the stadium, closer to the state and
so he wanted to go buy sneakers like Jordan's or whatever.
But this one place he's telling me about. I guess
they sell knockoffs of certain brands. So it would almost
be like when I was growing up Canal Street in
the city in New York City.
Speaker 3: In New York City, at Canal Street and Fairport.
Speaker 2: No Canal Street in New York City, you would go
down there and A was a big brand that my
mom liked, but you could find the Anye knockoff. It
would be just a slightly different thing on the logo.
I mean, if you knew and the people who did
new but you could get that, you could get whatever,
the Tory birch bag whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like to birch bag or whatever whatever
it is, right, So that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: So I guess it's similar with the Sneakers, but I
I don't know that I can tell. So he's like, look,
I want to go get two Parallels. They're fifty otherwise
these other ones I want to get are whatever at Dick's.
So we're driving down j Street. There is no place
really to park for this store.
Speaker 3: You're taking him there or you're going to pick them up.
Speaker 2: No, I'm taking them there, Okay, I'm taking them there.
So there's no real place to park for this store
at all. And I have to say that there is
something about style that gives you credibility in this world
versus anything else.
Speaker 1: And you think about that.
Speaker 2: You walk into a certain place, when you look a
certain way, they're going to treat you a certain way, right,
And there's like credibility with that. And that's why I
always said I kept a button down, collared shirt starched
on standby when the boys always injured themselves, because if
I wound up in the emergency room, you just.
Speaker 1: Got treated better. They just did. They just looked at
er shit.
Speaker 2: So we go down there and he's telling me about
these guys. I guess they're Middle Eastern who own it,
and how he and a friend were in there and
the kid wanted to buy a jacket. It's a knockoff jacket,
and the guy says fifty dollars and the kid goes, oh, oh,
I got is twenty. The guy goes, I could sell
this for eighty, but he does it in the accent,
and they go back and forth, back and forth, and
I guess this kid just held his own.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh I got this twenty.
Speaker 2: Guy's like thirty dollars and he's like, he goes, that's great,
but all I have on me is twenty And the
guy goes, okay, fine, no problem, no problem, ten twenty
dollars and.
Speaker 1: They sell it. So he was a little excited to
go there.
Speaker 2: Well, we walk into this place and it's like you
need secret passwords.
Speaker 1: And like it's sneak easy. It's dingy.
Speaker 3: Tony sent me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's dingy.
Speaker 2: It's got like scuffed up floors, it's I don't know
what it is. There's people in there, like this one lady.
She had turned her neck into an obituary with you
could see the years of people who died in her life.
Speaker 1: It's on her neck, right, I mean that that Hey, hey, hey,
you know what you do? You? You do you? You
do you? It's okay, I don't care. So I walk in.
Speaker 2: Now, I I my friend am in.
Speaker 3: Where's the Cheetos section?
Speaker 1: I oh, to measter morn.
Speaker 3: We don't have a cheeto section. We only have this
bicy Torito's in the back of the right.
Speaker 2: So I walk in and I've got a black collared
polo shirt.
Speaker 3: On okay and khakis. Yeah, I see that all the time.
Driving down Jay Street from my uber rides.
Speaker 2: So Jamison walks in and he says to the guy.
Speaker 3: You were standing out like this snowman, dude, July fourth.
Speaker 2: Dude, and it's so sad you drive down here like
I'm looking around right, I have to turn around. I
got to find a place to bark. I'm down here.
He goes, well, there's a parking lot down here for
a liquor store. There's a liquor store, but people are
zipping in and out of it. There's no parking. I'm
like losing my mind.
Speaker 3: Is I don't know the liquor store in a check
cashing place?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know that parking. Yeah, I'll just be
a minute. Yeah, it's twenty minutes later. It's up so
that this place tree up the street. I don't want
to say the name because I think they thought I
was a cop. I was gonna say that undercover.
Speaker 2: They thought I was a cop because I walk in
with this kid and he gets real quiet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got real quiet.
Speaker 2: There's only like four people in there, but it got quiet.
And Jameson walks over and goes, this is all you
got for shoes, and the guy goes, no more.
Speaker 1: Shoes and he goes, what do you mean, no more shoes?
Speaker 2: And he goes, no more souites and Jameson's like, the
shoes right there, I can see the shoes, but this
is all you have for selection. You had Jordan's and
everything down here before. And he's like, no, no more
selling is well, you're selling knockoffs and that's illegal. And
I'm standing there and I look like a nark from Netflix.
I got my hands on my him. I'm standing in
the back.
Speaker 1: I got Khaki's in a black collared shirt on.
Speaker 3: I look like Captain Avis.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, hey dude, I should have I should
have like put a band down.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I should write, but I did.
Speaker 2: I stood out and I felt a little bad, and
he's apologizing to me.
Speaker 1: I had to drive all the way down here.
Speaker 2: Now we ended up driving all the way out to
Victor to get to get what he wanted.
Speaker 1: But whatever, it doesn't matter. But it was interesting.
Speaker 3: At any point did you just want to say, hey,
my kid just went to sneakers. I'm not a cop.
Speaker 2: I did not think, because first of all, they didn't
have a large selection of anything. They He's a size thirteen,
So I'm not sure that they had what he was
looking for. Anyway, I could see size on boxes, I
would think that maybe they have.
Speaker 1: Something somewhere else in the store. Yeah, but because this
is like a convenience store.
Speaker 3: They're not going to keep everything out because yes, I
gonna get stolen. Yes, and yes, it's not stereotyping, that's
unfortunately just and department stores, especially shoe stores, will only
have the left out. Yeah, if you want to buy him,
I'll go in back and get the right so you
can't run off with a pair of shoes. It used
to be that they'd have teams and they would get
the left from this store and then the left or
the right from the other store. So I think everybody
just keeps the left out there so you can't switch
them off displays, put one in your Oh, I distract you.
He's gonna switch it with the left from another store,
and I'm taking the right. And that was years ago too,
but I'm sure it hasn't changed too much.
Speaker 2: No, probably not, So I have no idea, but I
you know, I mean, I've got my uh.
Speaker 1: And my poor kid is he's crushed, and we're walking
out and I'm like, this is I.
Speaker 3: So it's you, your son in one of his two friends.
Speaker 2: No, nobody, just me, just me and he he and I.
That's it and I. But then we're walking out and
I start laughing, but I'm like getting pissed. As we're
driving there, I go, there's no place to park. I'm like,
why are you even down in.
Speaker 1: This part of the city like it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like a safe spot, which then sounds
shitty because human beings live there and I don't want
to do that. And as I drove by it, I
was thinking about this a lot, because there was like
somebody had plastic all over their windows that's falling down
and this and that they're they're abandoned, and I go,
I thought, you know what, there is a point where
you just feel like it's never gonna get any better.
And I think everybody's been there in life where you
just feel like things things, nothing's working out for me,
and nothing's going to go and you just get into
that depression.
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you just do.
Speaker 2: But I think that when there's no one holding you
accountable to push through, or there's nobody depending on you,
to push through. You just throw up your hands and
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Speaker 1: Fights just a couple.
Speaker 2: Of, fights, no no but you talked about one of
the fights and what, to do like always stay in front.
Speaker 3: Of, it right stay out.
Speaker 2: Of it and there trying to keep everybody in front.
Speaker 3: Of, them, yeah. Right absolutely what do you want to?
Know today? THE alcoholics i.
Speaker 1: Don't know you.
Speaker 3: TELL me i worked with a number of girls that
the girl.
Speaker 1: Would like that had drug and. Alcohol problems, oh, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Doing shots of tequila at ten in the morning when
we open, at Noon because i'm not going on stageless and.
Fucking ammord it might have. Been, eleven wow maybe NEW
but i, mean yeah. That, EARLY yeah i mean shot,
After shot, i'm like are? You, OKAY yeah i don't
go out. Stage less. I'm. HAMMERED yeah i walked in
that Girl doing heroin once with at Legs in La. In,
la yeah and she had double d's and, you, think
oh she's got great, big boobs. That's awesome you take
that bra off and it's like putting a bowling ball.
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just like oh, god Right and, i'm like You? Doing,
HEROIN yeah i gotta get a. Little fixed i'm just
like just. Walk out, i'm like, YOU know i just
want to.
Speaker 2: Get tipped the sad, PART is i mean it just
shows you like they probably aren't loving what they're doing, oh,
no right and Then.
Speaker 3: We it just amazes me how? Did You and i've
asked a lot of girls over, the years how did
you get? IN this i just, need money, YOU know
i need money. Right now and that's how you do,
it right, You know.
Speaker 1: And then you get in that life a, little bit And.
Speaker 3: It's i've seen him come in at seventeen, and Eighteen
and i've seen him, forty eight, forty nine.
Speaker 1: And then coming in, or leaving well leaving you see the.
Speaker 3: Whole arc, you know the young girls their, first week
they're crying in. The back you give them two or.
Three months now they're upside down on. A pole why
are they crying in. The, back oh they're, JUST like
i can't. Do this so he wants me to go
home with Them And bob jez and then, you know
then they learn to teas and get the money and
the lap dances and, you, know yeah we can go out.
FOR lunch i can be seen, with you but it's
gonna cost you. This much there was also outside, extracurricular,
activities yeah. You Know and i'm not just, talking, prostitution,
No no i'm, just saying you want me to go
to this concert, with you this IS where i want,
to sit this is what. YOU know i want, to
drink and you're gonna have it all set up for
me if you want to be seen, with me and,
you Know and I'm if i'm, Not dancing i'm losing
four hundred dollars five hundred dollars. This night that better
be in my Pocket if i'm getting giving up a
night of, work stripping so.
Speaker 2: Guys would actually pay for so they were legitimately And
not i'm gonna say. An, ESCORT yeah i don't mean,
sex right Escort that i'm taking your a date to
you think?
Speaker 3: ESCORT escort i think you're getting lady, in right but
no escorts just to be SEEN with i knew a
guy that took a girl from the cat floor private
jet just to be seen with him for.
Speaker 1: The weekend was she?
Speaker 3: That attractive she was Attractive for rochester and he actually told,
HER you, i know you think you're the hottest thing
in the cat and she was.
Speaker 1: Smoking that but.
Speaker 3: You're gonna you're gonna, Be around we're gonna be at
a party and you're not going to be A material
So what you're gonna hang with me and we'll have
the room and you know we're not gonna, have sex
but you want to go and have fun time and
drinks and, be respectful. You KNOW and i don't know
what she. Got paid this was twenty. Years ago hey a?
Private jetitor yeah, damn yeah who? WAS this i can't Rich,
Mad man well not, always rich.
Speaker 1: You know, sure yeah yeh Yeh, connection yeah.
Speaker 3: ABSOLUTELY sure I mean i have a friend Who knows
troy ac me and there's good friends, with him and,
he said you can have my jet for, you know
sixteen thousand dollars to. Fly you that's what it costs
one Way for troy against jet and then of course
you gotta. Come back but he's getting paid thirty million,
A year Troy for monday night Football or. Sunday night Yeah,
doing yeah. NO money i mean a ridiculous amount. Of
money but they needed to go from city to city
and an interview and they're working throughout the whole weekend in,
the stories and you know they have their time. Off
TOO but i mean they are just. REGULAR people, i
mean we put these padestals, is like oh, my god they're.
So awesome they're, so great but, they, have yeah troubles
in their life, as well.
Speaker 2: Interesting though the idea like asking girls how why did
you get?
Speaker 1: Into this or what?
Speaker 2: Is it and then them not really liking it. At first,
oh yeah? DO you i mean they don't know any job,
you do you're going to be apprehensive of. Certain things,
and sure going up there taking your clothes off a
manger is kind of a. Big one it's a, huge.
One right it's in next.
Speaker 3: TO like i don't know how. To dance, there's nothing.
Don't dance This isn't guys just want to. See you
they want to see. The show smile and. Keep moving
THAT'S why i told the. New girls don't stand there
like a tree in. The wind just. Keep moving you don't.
Have to you don't. Have to it's not dancing with,
the stars. You know. Just smile guys don't want to hear.
Your troubles they want to see. You smiling guys who've got.
Their troubles they're giving. You money make. Them, happy yeah,
the uh.
Speaker 1: That's interesting of course you get.
Speaker 3: The girls once they get, the guys it's, like, them oh,
you know, my son he's always bugging me for his.
New sneakers they. Need this and, you know if you
get a couple of lap dances really help? Me out then,
they okay well let's go back that instead of, YOU
know i was working and an addition to the strip Club,
in CALIFORNIA and i was at the bar waiting to
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Speaker 3: ON maine, i mean even, killer whales a SeaWorld. Or
whatever they turned on, their.
Speaker 1: No, the greatest the, greatest turn the. Greatest turn?
Speaker 3: Come on oh uh want.
Speaker 2: To do this?
Speaker 1: Magic trick? Right, now okay we have. The, line.
Speaker 3: Okay well you're the. Twest vands, hold on he'd be fine.
Speaker 2: Like. YOU were.
Speaker 3: I Was in california. THAT type i actually did a
top ten list it to. MY buddy i DON'T think
i have.
Speaker 1: It Anymore But.
Speaker 3: Dice clay joked. About it, he goes people aren't going
to see. The magic people are going to, be like
you think this is a night you think it's, Gonna,
happen tony what do you think it's got to happen
one of? These nights and then they. Did it my
parents came to. Visit me we actually went To The
Sigfreed Roy. Animal show sure it's the same show, every
night but there. THERE'S zoo i mean there you could
just tell they're all.
Speaker 1: Drugged up the.
Speaker 3: ANIMALS are, i mean you're not hanging around with white
lions and this all day without who's all?
Speaker 1: Drugged, Up wait Sigfree and roy are.
Speaker 3: Drugg animals the animals are.
Speaker 2: Drugged, Up well Sigfreed and roy they had a lot
of plastic surgery. To think oh, my god they met
on a cruise ship.
Speaker 3: Doing magic oh.
Speaker 1: They did and, they yeah because about to, uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah not just. Animal lovers, come on you gotta. HAVE
something i want the moose in. MY house.
Speaker 1: I want the.
Speaker 3: White lion and of course. THEY didn't i can't give.
Speaker 1: You moose but how about? Moose knuckle no?
Speaker 3: Moose knuckle and they didn't Have the they didn't have.
The tiger uh, Destroy, either no because they said it wasn't.
His fault it wasn't.
Speaker 2: His fault it was just an animal doing what an
animal does. By nature, and uh it, is funny like.
Speaker 3: Trozag wore off The, tiger's, like hey for five hundred
people want to see a, real show here. We go
why you know.
Speaker 2: That's interesting did they ever did they ever do anything
where they talk to people from? The audience is there
a documentary? On That because I'M sure I think tmz
had was around, for that but it Was In. Las,
VEGAS no, i UNDERSTAND but i don't see the three. Mile,
Zone look fairport GOT, on, tmz right you KNOW what.
I mean anybody can GET on tmz now There are
THAT'S why i didn't know it was the three. Miles
home but that's Interesting that but, So yeah i'm pretty
sure that of, them died, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah now it's Just. SIGED roy i. DON'T know i don't.
KNOW either i saw the when they used to have
the e biography. Or, life, yes yeah They ginger lina.
On there they Did whole.
Speaker 1: They did a.
Speaker 2: Whole thing gingerlyne was a very famous, point STAR which
i Don't believe gingerlyne had.
Speaker 1: Fake anything would that be fair? To?
Speaker 3: Say yes.
Speaker 1: She, didn't yeah everything was natural.
Speaker 3: In, hung yeah she was a girl next door and her,
uh yeah and uh she Was Did charlie sheen for a,
long time Go figure and she even said that, you
know he wanted her to do this wacky ship and
dress up, and yeah, you know which. She did and
she said that very few men could keep up with
her with the cocaine and. The partying and then There Was. Charlie,
sheen yeah you know some people known for some people just.
Speaker 1: Built different yeah you KNOW what i, mean.
Speaker 3: Again you build, up different you.
Speaker 1: Keep. GOING yeah i hated that whole thing with. THE
winning i.
Speaker 2: HATED it i hated it because and EVERYBODY'S making t
shirts and SHIP and, i go.
Speaker 1: What are we?
Speaker 2: Doing here we're enabling a guy who could potentially die
at any one of these. Fucking shows that's what? You, want,
WELL no i understood waiting for him, to, remember, like
yeah this, was Winning and, I'M, like i why are we?
Doing this we're enabling a guy who could potentially. Kill
himself if this there was anybody's, family member you wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Want this AND.
Speaker 3: Everybody i remember an interview with people's brother and father
saying this. Isn't, fun no he's kind, of sick fucking
office rock going to, kill himself, kill himself, you know we.
Speaker 2: Don't, want no his Shouldn't be his teeth are, all
VENEERS because i think like the teeth were rotting out of.
Speaker 1: His head he. Crack cocaine it was all this ship
and we're all.
Speaker 3: Getting a million dollars a show for two and a,
half men and he finally, you know, they're, like look
the guy was. Work anymore he was showing. Up late
you're not, Your lines you're. Fucked up the show's.
Speaker 2: Doing Great charlie Sheen And heather locklear were two people
in the eighties.
Speaker 1: And Nineties spin city took Over FROM.
Speaker 3: Michael, j fix.
Speaker 2: Who could, Save shows like you KNOW what, i mean,
Save shows you Could Say. Ashton kutcher they went a
little bit. As sucks they went a little Bit with
two And A half Men after charlie left.
Speaker 1: With him it. Wasn't bad, it's DIFFERENT but.
Speaker 3: I Was actually charlie was paramount and had lunch on
the set with associate producer For a knight Of the
cat that he thought was a good script and wanted
to try to help out and never. Went ANYWHERE but
i ran into him one night, and, like hey what's,
going on and he, GOES on i just came from
a butterfly Effect With, ashton kutscher which just keeps proving,
to me this guy cannot star in. A movie he
just he's not. A Draw. Just no he had the
seventies show his young kid and worked on there by
being a. Mainstream, actor no he was an. Ensemble cast, Yeah,
guy yeah a. Nice kid. You, know sure he definitely.
Speaker 1: Does a lot of nice charity work and stuff and.
Speaker 3: As most of them do that, meaning.
Speaker 2: Yes celebrities the hidden camera show that he had for,
A While punk punked was, you, know interesting, it was it.
Speaker 1: Was good it was aimed, at kids at a, younger audience.
Speaker 3: And he get punked once and was crying like a.
LITTLE girl i, Don't, know yeah.
Speaker 2: They, probably did but The but charlie was AND that
i gotta, Tell, you like during that, WHOLE time i
remember people buying the winning shirts and, all This and, I'M,
like i probably myself and not The greatest state said,
to somebody that's the dumbest fucking thing you.
Speaker 1: Can do all you're doing.
Speaker 2: Is ENABLING and i think who was the sports announcer
who became uh like A tabloid Tv entertainment Tonight guy
and then he had his own alcohol thing where he made,
me no he made these phone calls and he's like, Saying,
this hey it's like there's all these voicemails out there.
Speaker 1: For him, god damn what is?
Speaker 2: His name and he did an Interview With charlie sheen
and then afterwards he was a guy who wound up
going to rehab and, HE'S like i should have never
done that Because and, i'm, LIKE yeah i FELT like
i was one of the only people in my friend
groups or radio shit whatever that, was like this, is
bad this is not a, good thing and we're making.
Remember it and the guy if it Wasn't For jeff
ross who came out and helped him and saved a
lot of.
Speaker 1: These, comedy shows they. Were awful people were walking out.
Speaker 2: Midway through, YOU know, i, THINK yeah i THINK some
i Thought in detroit or somewhere they wound up giving.
Speaker 1: Money, back, yeah, yeah no because there was.
Speaker 2: Nothing there but he went on this tour and, somebody, goes,
yeah great let's book. The theaters let's go because all
they saw were dollar signs and it wasn't about Real
human it wasn't the.
Speaker 3: Human being and now HE'S got aids or. Type Too,
probably yeah, private, show yeah.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 3: Private parties you had a lock in your. Cell phone
and then he was paying people hush money because he
did have a disease and didn't want to get it
out to whoever he was. Sleeping with and, you know
he stole his father's, CREDIT card i think at fourteen
to fifteen and runted a hooker to come over. The
house and that's how it.
Speaker 1: Started, OUT sorry i shouldn't laugh, At, that YEAH.
Speaker 3: But i tried that With my dan's credit card got
to decline three times, and Uh, mister phelps you know
you're in. An overdraft there's, all, Right man i'm just
a center, over paddle'brien oh. For.
Speaker 1: Me yes and he was a sports. Guy too he
did Play by.
Speaker 3: Entertainment tonight He did entertainment Tonight and.
Speaker 1: Paddle O'Brien the paddle'brian, phone calls they. WERE priceless i don't.
Speaker 2: Remember those oh he was hitting on, some yeah the
paddle drunken. Phone calls and he had drunken voicemails that.
Speaker 1: He uh that.
Speaker 2: HE left i think, after that, like everybody, the conan
everybody got a hold of these and just they, went
everywhere the padd. O'Brien tapes i'm trying to SEE if
i can just find a clean version of. Just pat
but they were the drunken phone calls back in five and.
Speaker 1: Let me just see if this is. It here let's
SEE if i want to, fuck you you're saying it to
like some WOMAN who. I think i think he was
in a city to do like, a game.
Speaker 3: So he was a sports, an artist went to entertainment
tonight and back, to sports back, to sports and Then voice.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat you.
Speaker 3: He was was he sending this to somebody POPULAR or
i don't remember.
Speaker 1: Who, it was but she released All.
Speaker 2: About, GOD yeah i thought there was one where, HE
said i want you TO write i want my girlfriend
to Eat you.
Speaker 1: Sunday if.
Speaker 3: You want if you're happy with, your message class on.
Speaker 1: Tell us but he's so JEALOUS and.
Speaker 3: I want to. See it it's such, your kids, but
ye be in the beds and your.
Speaker 1: Answered her now this is twenty. Years ago twenty years ago.
Speaker 3: Lives, forever yeah that's where you, Do right yes today
absolutely see.
Speaker 2: And make you come so much. GETTING great i don't
Know why i'm, Like THIS but.
Speaker 3: I don't Know why i'm. Like this want me sometimes
you just want to.
Speaker 1: TALK thirty, i, guess yeah but it's seven twenty eight
On a. Sunday time that's a.
Speaker 3: Weird time, Hey Man no Monday, by sunday You dare Monday?
Speaker 2: My sunday, oh god THAT was i forgot all. About it,
padd O'Brien and padd O'Brien was the one guy who
stood up After Having charlie sheen on because he wound
up doing A syndicated uh sports radio show where he
was part of an ensemble that they were trying, to
syndicate and he They had, charlie on and he's doing all.
Speaker 1: This winning, I'm winning i'm.
Speaker 2: Tiger, blood yeah and he and And then pat, AFTERWARDS
goes I wish i had never, done that having had an,
addiction myself weren't. Just enabling, i'm like finally fucking someone
speaking some truth after.
Speaker 3: THE fact, i mean some people just like to go
to the circus and. Watch, IT no i, get it,
YOU know i. Get it it's, it's sick. Get it
but it was, JUST like, I Mean bill bird talks
about THE w nba and their ratings. Are ship but
if you Go To Orange, county, housewives yeah or any
of This Ship, Atlanta's, housewife yeah they want. The drama.
You know, he's, like women we gave you the. Sports
league you want everything equal and you're not even. Watching
it they don't have shit because they're not gonna be
they're not. Playing basketball but the girl that doesn't get
her nails done for the wedding and freaking the. Fuck
out they can relate to that and. Live there, of
course it's a little.
Speaker 1: More relatable that's exactly what. It is dougie.
Speaker 3: Right back from AN ac, dcnt buddy a.
Speaker 2: Guardian's game, that's RIGHT he's tnt and always.
Speaker 1: Bringing It.
Speaker 2: Dougie Fresh For, Dougie Fresh I'm. Bill Moran for patt
O'Brien and his sexual harassment, phone calls they kept the
sexual harassment. Scoreboard too they had, like seven you are
so fucking hots in.
Speaker 3: That Call.
Speaker 1: I'm. Bill murran we'll see.
Speaker 3: You, tomorrow
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