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<v Speaker 1>Now Gangbuster is presented in cooperation with police and federal

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement departments throughout the United States. The only national

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<v Speaker 1>program that brings you authentic police case histories.

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<v Speaker 2>Gangbusters presents the case of the Quincy Killers. Put it

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<v Speaker 2>all that a railroad ticket in the hands of alert

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<v Speaker 2>detectives could be a one way ticket to the gallows.

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<v Speaker 1>Gangbusters has asked the Honorable Peter F. Hartman, former Chief

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<v Speaker 1>of Police Quincy, Illinois, to narrate by proxy tonight's case. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Chief Hartman, before we begin, I'd like to remind our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners about a special feature at the end of tonight's program.

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<v Speaker 1>It shows how a girl of twelve and a boy

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<v Speaker 1>of fourteen helped capture a dangerous kidnapper.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm quite anxious to hear that, myself, Don Gardner.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Chief Hartman, let's get to tonight's case. Well done.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not very often that a situation such as this

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<v Speaker 3>arises in society. I've been a police officer myself for

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three years, and this was the first time I

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<v Speaker 3>ever ran into anything like this case.

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<v Speaker 4>Why don't you start right in cheef Hartman? All right done,

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<v Speaker 4>Let's begin in the city of Quincy. Illinois.

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<v Speaker 3>One spring evening a few years ago, in a small

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<v Speaker 3>two story frame house near the International Shoe Company factory,

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<v Speaker 3>a man sat on the living room sofa. He was

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<v Speaker 3>there calling on missus Angela Brookes Stover, already twice widowed.

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<v Speaker 3>Angela was seated at the old melodeon, and the music

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<v Speaker 3>coming forth seemed to be a hymn.

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<v Speaker 4>We edgie, What don't you know anything except church music?

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<v Speaker 4>It's music, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>I learned it when I was a child, and I've

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<v Speaker 5>never learned nothing since child. Now my husband's like my

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<v Speaker 5>playing both of them?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that what killed him?

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<v Speaker 6>Will heize?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm never gonna invite you back for another evening? Will

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<v Speaker 5>I baked the cake this afternoon?

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<v Speaker 4>What kind of cake? Chocolate with white inside? Well, let's

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<v Speaker 4>have some.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I baked every day for both my husbands.

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<v Speaker 7>That's so every day. I look, Angie, you're not hooking

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<v Speaker 7>me for number three. So if you're gonna make hints, good.

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<v Speaker 5>Night, Will. What's the matter with us getting married? Is

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<v Speaker 5>there something about me you don't like?

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<v Speaker 4>No, Angie, it ain't that. Certainly, time he was getting married,

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<v Speaker 4>it's my father. There'd be nobody to look after him.

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<v Speaker 6>Since when's he's sick in bed look after himself. It's

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<v Speaker 6>you that's clinging to him.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, wait a minute, I can take care of myself.

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<v Speaker 5>You didn't have that old goat drag around with you,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe you'd get someplace.

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<v Speaker 6>In this world.

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<v Speaker 4>Is plenty smart. He's smart enough for me to listen to.

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<v Speaker 6>Just scared of him, that's all.

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<v Speaker 5>Like any minute he was going to take you out

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<v Speaker 5>in the wood shed, like you were still running around

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<v Speaker 5>in knee pants.

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<v Speaker 4>That ain't so, Angie. You got more company who you expected? Nobody?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think anybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, don't stand in s see who it is?

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<v Speaker 6>All right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>What, oh mister Heinsey, Yes, mister Heinse Will it your father?

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<v Speaker 4>I guess Will knows me when he sees me. But

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<v Speaker 4>won't you come in, mister Heinsey.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just about to serve chocolate cake.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I like chocolate cake. It's good. Well, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to you, Angie. It makes good chocolate cake

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<v Speaker 4>the best. And I got some coffee off and then

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<v Speaker 4>go get it.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't stand here talking about it. The eating is the

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<v Speaker 8>proof of the pudding.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, make yourself at home, mister I will.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a matter well if I was a younger man,

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<v Speaker 8>I'd take a stick and pound some sense into your head.

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<v Speaker 7>Shit down, Oh, Pop, I don't really mean to marry Angie, Angie.

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<v Speaker 4>Eh. There was two policemen around the house looking for you.

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<v Speaker 8>They said Clinger's hardware store was broken into, and they

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<v Speaker 8>think you did it?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, did you, pop A? Did you? Well? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>All these years I've been teaching you, All these years,

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<v Speaker 8>I've been trying to make a man out of you.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sorry, too late to be sorry, got no respect

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<v Speaker 8>for your father. Why don't you at least wait until

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<v Speaker 8>I'm in my grave?

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<v Speaker 4>Pop? Don't talk like breaking into hardware stores.

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<v Speaker 8>How many times have I got to tell you not

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<v Speaker 8>to break.

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<v Speaker 4>Into anything unless I say so? It looks so easy,

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<v Speaker 4>It looks so easy. Now you're in trouble.

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<v Speaker 8>Every time we got in trouble, every time it's been

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<v Speaker 8>on account you're running off and doing something like that.

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<v Speaker 8>It hadn't been for you, we wouldn't have spent that

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<v Speaker 8>time in the Missouri State Prison, not five years now.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not much better than a child. Pop, I told

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<v Speaker 4>you I was sorry.

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<v Speaker 8>Being sorry is not going to chase them. Two detectives

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<v Speaker 8>wait from the house. There they're waiting for you. I

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<v Speaker 8>tell you it's lucky for you. Your father has a

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<v Speaker 8>good mouth on him. I told them i'd go out

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<v Speaker 8>and find.

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<v Speaker 4>You, bring you to the police station. Oh no, Pop,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not well. I sure ought to, but you ain't.

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<v Speaker 8>Just lucky will that you're my inflation blood?

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<v Speaker 4>Just lucky for you. What are we going to do? Pop? Now,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 8>We're gonna do some traveling again to a resort.

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<v Speaker 4>To Spirit Lake. Spirit Lake? Where's that it's up?

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<v Speaker 8>And I own near the Minnesota line. I saw an

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<v Speaker 8>ad in the paper. The people that runs the cottages

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<v Speaker 8>there need a couple of handymen.

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<v Speaker 4>Handy man, we're not gonna work just long enough to

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<v Speaker 4>get a good look around the resort. We'll leave tonight

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<v Speaker 4>and day shopping wood just so somebody can burn it up.

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<v Speaker 4>You find job?

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<v Speaker 7>Will what what that acts up?

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<v Speaker 4>Will? Missus? Miller says dinners on the table. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>bad time where you've been all day? What's eating you?

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<v Speaker 3>Will?

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<v Speaker 7>A little work never hurt nobody. It can't hurt you.

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<v Speaker 7>You're never doing. Will you have some respect?

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<v Speaker 4>I thought you said we'd only be around here long

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<v Speaker 4>enough to find out where they keep their money. I

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<v Speaker 4>thought you don't think so much. Come on inside. You

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<v Speaker 4>know the first guests are becoming soon. Pop. When the

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<v Speaker 4>cottages get rented up, it'll be tougher and tougher to

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<v Speaker 4>do what we gotta do. You just leave all that

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<v Speaker 4>to me.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you when we can handle a Millica, right,

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<v Speaker 7>they won't be no trouble, might defeat off.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, sure, O yay, thank you, missus Miller. You

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<v Speaker 4>got lambs too. It's getting cold. That still sounds pretty good.

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<v Speaker 4>Done it?

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<v Speaker 8>It's awful good. Don't you think you ought to wash

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<v Speaker 8>your hands?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? Oh yeah, yeah, Pop, excuse me, I'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 4>Sit down, Pop, thank you. Missus Miller.

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<v Speaker 9>Sometimes will calls you pops if you were really his pop.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I guess it's natural him not having a father

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<v Speaker 8>and I together.

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<v Speaker 4>So along my everything sure looks good. And help yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>mister Miller. Going to eat with us?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, mister Miller went to town. He went to range

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<v Speaker 9>for the bus. First guests to come in tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that's it's kind of early in it too. Nights

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<v Speaker 8>are still pretty cold for vacationing.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, we get lots of early guests. Oh take some

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<v Speaker 9>more of that's too Pop. That little bit isn't going

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<v Speaker 9>to hold you to the supper.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, oh why stuff? Sit down?

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<v Speaker 7>Will?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh help yourself? Oh that lamb still looks awful? Good

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<v Speaker 4>good us, good will Will.

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<v Speaker 8>The first guests are arriving tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, kidd.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>We're in for some real excitement. I guess we are.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh that must be mister Miller calling from town. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 9>I'll get it.

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<v Speaker 6>Help yourself to everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't do that. Say this lamb stew is good. Hang

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<v Speaker 4>the lamb stew. Well, it's good, missus. Miller's a good cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Guests coming earlier, ruin everything? What can we do about it?

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<v Speaker 4>They're coming? I tell you what we can do.

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<v Speaker 8>We can finish our business tonight, tonight, That's what I said.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but we don't know where mister Miller keeps all

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<v Speaker 4>the money. We'll find it. But how are we going

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<v Speaker 4>to have time to find it with them around? That's easy,

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<v Speaker 4>We kill them, kill them? Yeah? Oh no, Pop, that

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<v Speaker 4>ain't good. Now you look here? Did I ever put

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<v Speaker 4>you wrong yet? Will?

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<v Speaker 8>The only times we've been in trouble is when you

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<v Speaker 8>did something on your own that's the only times.

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<v Speaker 4>But do we have to kill them if we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to find out what we want? Yes?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, when tonight half supper, neparla. But Pop, will I

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<v Speaker 10>made up my mind? Okay, if you made up your mind.

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<v Speaker 8>Hmm, you're right, will Missus Miller does make good lambs do,

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<v Speaker 8>very good lambs.

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<v Speaker 4>Do so, don.

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<v Speaker 3>If the afternoon seemed like an eternity to Philip and

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<v Speaker 3>William Heinzee as they waited their moment, the events that

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<v Speaker 3>night must have seemed to occur in a split second.

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<v Speaker 3>But sometimes split seconds are remembered better than eternities by

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<v Speaker 3>murderers and their pursuers.

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<v Speaker 4>Now back to Gangbusters.

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<v Speaker 1>You were telling us, Chief Hartman that the criminals Philip

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<v Speaker 1>and William Heinze, father and son, planned to murder and

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<v Speaker 1>rob their lawyers, mister Missus Miller, operators of a lakeside

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<v Speaker 1>resort in northern Iowa.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Don, And that night, after supper, the two

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<v Speaker 3>criminals were in the kitchen about to enter the parlor,

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<v Speaker 3>whereas usual, they were invited by the Millers to spend

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<v Speaker 3>the evening.

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<v Speaker 4>You do like I told you, and we'll come out

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<v Speaker 4>all right.

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<v Speaker 8>But Pop, do we have to kill and I told

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<v Speaker 8>you we did.

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<v Speaker 4>You just brought me the signal.

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<v Speaker 8>Good evening, missus Miller, thank.

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<v Speaker 4>You, we will. How did go in town today? Mister Miller? Fine?

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<v Speaker 4>Will just fine? Do you finish with the sports section?

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<v Speaker 4>Miss Miller? Yes, sir, it is on the couch. I

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<v Speaker 4>thank you, big rainstorm Chicago says, Is that so, mister Miller?

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<v Speaker 8>Yes it.

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<v Speaker 4>Where'd you get that gun? I'm going to use it

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<v Speaker 4>to kill you, mister Miller, but you pull fool taid

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<v Speaker 4>you buy it? Hit her again? Yeah? Out here, shooter? No, Pop,

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<v Speaker 4>you do it.

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<v Speaker 8>I have to do everything all your life. I've been

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<v Speaker 8>doing things for you. Now here, you shoot yourself. Gone, shooter, Pop,

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<v Speaker 8>I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Shooter, And she might still be lying out there, her

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<v Speaker 3>unconscious and mister Miller's body if the bus driver hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>come by with a guest. I think we've got a case, Sarah. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is Cousins Furniture store.

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<v Speaker 4>Are here? Oh well, before we go in.

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<v Speaker 3>Besides being the leading furniture merchant and undertaking, mister Cousins

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<v Speaker 3>is also corner of the county. He'll probably want to

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<v Speaker 4>The in question. I understand. Well, let's go on in afternoon,

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<v Speaker 4>John had known Cherff. Mister John Cousins.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Agent Ike Welburn of the Iowa Bureau of Investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>It came out from des Moines to help with the case.

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<v Speaker 3>And have you we got a mystery on our hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Sit down here any place it's a second answer.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 8>I hope I can help you solve that mystery.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Corpus delector is back in the undertaking department.

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<v Speaker 4>How's missus Miller and.

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<v Speaker 3>The doctor's give her a fifty to fifty chance, John,

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<v Speaker 3>We got the slugs out of mister Miller's body, looks

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<v Speaker 3>like they came out of a thirty two.

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<v Speaker 4>Both of them.

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<v Speaker 8>Will send them down the laboratory in the mone for

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<v Speaker 8>a complete ballistics check.

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<v Speaker 4>What about these two men, the suspects.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the only time they were seen in town was

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<v Speaker 3>the day they got off the train.

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<v Speaker 4>And when was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Ten days, two weeks ago. They asked Chet North, the

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<v Speaker 3>station agent, for directions to the Miller's place. Check phoned

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<v Speaker 3>out and Miller drove in for him. Yes, missus Miller

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<v Speaker 3>give you more information about them than anyone else.

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<v Speaker 8>Apparently Missus Miller won't be able to give that information

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<v Speaker 8>for a while, if at all, if they'd already been

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<v Speaker 8>hired by the Millers, must have been some correspondence between them.

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<v Speaker 3>My men certainly couldn't find anything, No payroll book, nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing at all. You know, it's strange how the young

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<v Speaker 3>one and the old ones seemed to travel together.

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<v Speaker 4>Mister Miller was talking about them at the feed store

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<v Speaker 4>one day. He had an idea they were some kin, but.

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<v Speaker 3>He never asked, wasn't the nosy kind? As long as

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<v Speaker 3>they did the work?

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<v Speaker 8>They did their work, all right, manche air. Let's walk

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<v Speaker 8>over to the depot and talk to that station agent.

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<v Speaker 8>I want to see if I can make certain of

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<v Speaker 8>the exact day they got off the train.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, all right, just a minute, Yes, who is it?

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<v Speaker 4>It's me, Angie Will Will? Well, where have you been?

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<v Speaker 6>Where'd you disappeared to for three weeks?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? Pop decided we should take a little trip, and.

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<v Speaker 6>You go away without telling me?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, ain't you gonna invite me in?

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<v Speaker 11>Come in?

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<v Speaker 4>Will?

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<v Speaker 5>What's obliged that you now tell me? Was that nice

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<v Speaker 5>what you did to me?

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<v Speaker 4>No, Angie, it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know whether I even ought to ask you

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<v Speaker 6>to stay.

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<v Speaker 4>Angie.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm through listening to my pop. I'm gonna start doing

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<v Speaker 7>things on my own.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about time more than about time.

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<v Speaker 5>Will just by coincidence, I made a chocolate cake today.

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<v Speaker 4>You did. Would you like some later? But right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Would you play one of those hymns for me?

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<v Speaker 6>A hymn?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, sure will if you want?

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<v Speaker 4>Angie, Yes, sometime in in near future. Would you care

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<v Speaker 4>to marry me? Oh? Will?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Say what you said to the two before me?

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<v Speaker 6>Say yes, yes, will yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Come to the church in the world, Come to the

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<v Speaker 4>church in one of these bones.

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<v Speaker 8>Would be best to put the call through on Sheriff.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, you can tie this one up as long as

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<v Speaker 4>you want. Welburn, Thanks, yes, please, operator, I want a.

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<v Speaker 8>Place to call the chief auditor, Rock Island Railroad colgw Illinois.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, sir, I'll call you back.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks pretty hopeless to me, Welburn. The railroad takes

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<v Speaker 3>up thousands of tickets every day.

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<v Speaker 8>I know they do, but each one of them is

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<v Speaker 8>handled and audited individually. If we can trace the ones

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<v Speaker 8>these two men used for their passages Spirit Lake, we

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<v Speaker 8>might know where they came from. That's a big step

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<v Speaker 8>in the investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>Answer that But suppose they change trains at the mineer someplace,

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<v Speaker 3>then where are we.

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<v Speaker 8>If they bought their tickets through the Spirit Lake when

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<v Speaker 8>they left home, it doesn't make any difference how many

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<v Speaker 8>times they change. The stamp of the originating office is

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<v Speaker 8>on the back. If the railroad can locate those tickets,

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<v Speaker 8>we've got a chance.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. Maybe you've got something, Sheriff, it's all we've got.

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<v Speaker 4>Where have you, ben? Will? You had me worried?

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<v Speaker 8>The Quincy cops might still be looking for you on

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<v Speaker 8>account of that hardware store.

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<v Speaker 4>Just over to see Angie?

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<v Speaker 8>But I thought I told you to stay away from her.

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<v Speaker 8>She's been widowed twice and proposes to make you number three.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked her to marry me. Pop, You what Angie

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<v Speaker 4>and I are going to get married? You won't marry her.

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<v Speaker 4>As long as I'm alive, I ain't listening to you

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<v Speaker 4>no more. Pop, You got me in trouble all my life.

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<v Speaker 4>Listening to you. Steal is steal. That will't turn me

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<v Speaker 4>loose power, My boy? You do what I send me?

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<v Speaker 4>Look will.

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<v Speaker 8>Push your poor old father. There's been nothing but good

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<v Speaker 8>to you all your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh good to me.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a laugh making me spend years and years in chail,

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<v Speaker 7>making me steal and kill.

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't have known what to do over one for me.

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't have known nothing. I wouldn't have killed nobody.

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<v Speaker 8>You didn't even do a good job with that. I

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<v Speaker 8>told you to kill her. You messed it up. You

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<v Speaker 8>never did anything right.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't kill pop if I want to. Angie and

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<v Speaker 7>me are getting married, and if you step one foot

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<v Speaker 7>in the way, I'll kill you. I swear I'll kill you.

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<v Speaker 9>Agent Welburn, Mister Welburn, Detective Watson the Quincy, Illino Police

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<v Speaker 9>Department is ready to talk.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, we're good. Put him on Hello, Yes, Watson, how

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<v Speaker 4>are you okay?

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<v Speaker 12>I'm thinking about our phone conversation last night.

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<v Speaker 4>Any ideas Watson?

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<v Speaker 12>You say those two definitely bought the railroad tickets here

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<v Speaker 12>in Quincy.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the railroad, says well, I don't want to make

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<v Speaker 8>any promises, Welburn.

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<v Speaker 12>Maybe I know the manure looking for father in the son.

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<v Speaker 4>That could be the.

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<v Speaker 12>Name sin Se. We've suspected them in a couple of

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<v Speaker 12>buglaries around here. It disappeared about three weeks ago. I

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<v Speaker 12>could start checking around for them.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a good idea of Watson. You start checking and

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<v Speaker 8>I'll start driving. I'll see you there as quick as

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<v Speaker 8>I can make.

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<v Speaker 13>It, My child, I never heard such pretty music, Pop, even.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll get your hat? Will we're going? How did you

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<v Speaker 4>get in here? I got a knack of getting places?

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<v Speaker 4>Will you know that? You'll get your hat? Go on?

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<v Speaker 4>And she finished playing? But will I finish playing? Who

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<v Speaker 4>will telling me to go home? I can't stand coming

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<v Speaker 4>with me? Will no more? You're not telling me what

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<v Speaker 4>to deal wi, you stupid old play away from me?

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<v Speaker 6>Pop?

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<v Speaker 8>Put that gonna stay away and you two inch.

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<v Speaker 4>All these years, I've been taking lessons from you, Pop.

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<v Speaker 4>So right now I'm gonna show you what I whether.

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<v Speaker 4>You wouldn't shoot your own father now? Not? After all

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<v Speaker 4>we've been to each other. You've never been anything to

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<v Speaker 4>me all my life, I've been scared of you. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not scared no more.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, don't you just beginning to get some sense?

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<v Speaker 4>Boys?

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<v Speaker 7>Sit down, Pop, I'm gonna shoot you, just like you

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<v Speaker 7>shot mister Miller.

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<v Speaker 4>Will my boy sit down?

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<v Speaker 8>Will don't do this?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>I half a dozen guns, Tanya, old lady, open the door.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't do it, Jie the door. All right. One time

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<v Speaker 4>I said just keep your hands. He's my son. Officer.

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<v Speaker 4>We were only joking. I was neither joking.

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<v Speaker 8>If there's any humor in this situation, it's beyond me.

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<v Speaker 8>And you won't think it's so funny either when you

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<v Speaker 8>face the judge in the jury.

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<v Speaker 3>That done was how this strange pair of killers, father

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<v Speaker 3>and son were apprehended. They were returned to Iowa, where

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<v Speaker 3>they were found guilty of murder in the first degree

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<v Speaker 3>On March twenty ninth, nineteen forty six. Philip and William

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<v Speaker 3>Heinsey paid the extreme penalty for their crime on the

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<v Speaker 3>gallows at Fort Madison State Penitentiary.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Thank you, Chief Hartman for this most unusual case history,

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<v Speaker 1>and Gangbuster's congratulations to all the police officers whose brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>investigation brought this pair to justice. Now, as a special feature,

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<v Speaker 1>Gangbusters presents an interview with the two young listeners who

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<v Speaker 1>are responsible for the apprehension of the dangerous kidnapper, John

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<v Speaker 1>Harvey Bugg, whom they recognized from the description given on

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<v Speaker 1>a Gangbuster's clue. Here they are from the studios of

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<v Speaker 1>k e X ABC's new fifty thousand Wade outlet in Portland, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 11>Through I'm Pinine Virgin, aged twelve, Hoagos Gap.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm the Vorse fourteen andy boy scout.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, Pauline and Navar, you've had quite an exciting week,

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<v Speaker 14>and now you're on Gangbusters. Why don't you just go

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<v Speaker 14>ahead and tell all these millions of people just how

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<v Speaker 14>it happened?

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<v Speaker 11>All right, mister Hunter. You see, we live in Gearhart, Oregon.

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<v Speaker 14>Your heart's about eighty miles from Portland, isn't that right, Pauline?

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<v Speaker 15>Yes, sir, Well, you see, I took writing lessons from

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<v Speaker 15>cowboy Jim and I one night when Saturday night, when

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<v Speaker 15>I was listening to Gangbusters, I heard the description of

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<v Speaker 15>him and it said that he had the lamp and

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<v Speaker 15>the tape on his fingers.

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<v Speaker 11>M hm.

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<v Speaker 14>The what was What was the description that they gave

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<v Speaker 14>in Gangbusters? Did they say he had his fingers taped?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 11>He did?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I see?

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<v Speaker 14>And then this cowboy Jim had his fingers taped too. Well,

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<v Speaker 14>you were pretty suspicious then, weren't you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? I was. What did you do about it? Well?

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<v Speaker 11>I told my cousin, the var Smith.

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<v Speaker 14>Oh I see, Navar, how did you feel about this

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<v Speaker 14>whole thing?

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<v Speaker 6>I thought, if the FBI wanted this kidnappers that the

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<v Speaker 6>best thing to do is to turn him in. I

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<v Speaker 6>went over to Seaside and turned him into the policeman. There,

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<v Speaker 6>you turned the kidnapper in. No, I asked him where

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<v Speaker 6>I could get in touch with the FBI.

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<v Speaker 4>But oh, I see.

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<v Speaker 6>He asked me why, and I told him, and so

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<v Speaker 6>he says that he would do it for us. M M, Well,

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<v Speaker 6>did you talk to your mother about it, Pauline at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 11>I did, and she kind of laughed, Oh, I see.

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<v Speaker 14>Well you didn't let that bother you at all, though,

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<v Speaker 14>did you know, well, you say the policeman now was.

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<v Speaker 6>Going to do what for you? He was going to

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<v Speaker 6>turn him into the FBI for us?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I see, and he certainly did from all the

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<v Speaker 14>activity we've seen around here in the last week. Agents

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<v Speaker 14>of the Federal Bureau of Investigation did some checking and

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<v Speaker 14>they found out that Cowboy Jym really was the kidnapper

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<v Speaker 14>John Harvey Bug and they found him hiding under the

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<v Speaker 14>baby crib in a friend's house last Friday night. Tell

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<v Speaker 14>me something, Pauline, what did your mother say after was

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<v Speaker 14>all over, Well, she was kind.

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<v Speaker 11>Of thrilled about it. She didn't think it could happen.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, she kind of admitted too that kids can be

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<v Speaker 14>right sometimes, didn't she. Well, you and Theavar certainly were

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<v Speaker 14>right and observant too. Now on behalf of Gangbusters. I

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<v Speaker 14>want to present each of you with a check for

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<v Speaker 14>one hundred dollars. Oh boy, and we hope you'll continue

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<v Speaker 14>to be observant young citizens.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you, mister Hunter.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 14>This is Ben Hunter transcribed from the studios of k

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<v Speaker 14>ex Portland, Oregon, switching you back to Gangbusters in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Pauline Virgin and Navar Smith and Gangbusters. Congratulations

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<v Speaker 1>to both of yous. Tonight's case was dramatized by Stanley

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<v Speaker 1>Niss and directed by Ted Corday, with Bill Smith and

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Zuckert in leading roles.

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<v Speaker 4>John Gardner speaking

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<v Speaker 1>Gangbusters as a Phillips h Lord production
