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Speaker 1: This is a podcast from Minute Media.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. Today we are recording from the brand

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new Surely you Can't Be Serious Productions Studio. I'm very

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excited to do this. We're gonna be talking about The Godfather,

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The Godfather Too, and Goodfellas.

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Speaker 3: I know this is like the big Mafia mashup right here,

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but you know we're missing a major opportunity. D what

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we are recording at our new Surely you Can't be

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Serious studio, But we should be recording in my bedroom

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where my wife sleeps and my children play with their toys.

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Welcome back, everybody. We are diving in today to some

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of the best movies ever made, literally.

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Speaker 2: Literally like you, you look at any source and The Godfather

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will be number one or number two. I think AFI

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had at number two after Citizen Kane. You look on IMDb,

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it's number two after the Shawshank Redemption. Then we have

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The Godfather Too, which is almost always right after, and

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then in a not two distant third place, and most

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of those ratings, you're gonna hit the Goodfellas Too.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. And you've got cast members intermingled. You've

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got Scorsese intermingled a little bit, a little bit, so

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a little bit. The quotes are going to be flying.

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Didn't mean to assilicate, you know, a little bit.

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Speaker 2: A little bit, Okay, you did a little bit. Okay, everybody,

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If this is your first time with us, please just

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a five star review, great.

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Speaker 3: Leave the gun take the Canoli five star review.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, are we ready to jump into these

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three iconic movies?

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Speaker 3: I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Let me just say this. There is no way

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that we could do a sufficient podcast on all of

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these movies in just two episodes.

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Speaker 3: You really could do like a season on you could.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you could do probably multiple seasons on these movies.

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Given how good they are, how iconic they are, We

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couldn't possibly so, David Wright, I'm speaking to you. I'm

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not going to cover everything, but we are going to

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keep this fun and casual and talk about what we

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love about these movies. Let's do it, Okay. So our

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story starts back at the turn of the century, Young

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couple of Italian immigrants leave their home home of Corleone, Italy,

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a John Girardi and his wife Kate Okay, and they

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travel to New York. They have a daughter who marries

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another Sicilian in town who they have a son. Ultimately,

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the husband leaves and the grandparents, John and Kate are

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left to raise this young Sicilian man who ultimately will

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get cast in a part where he has the last

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name of the town that his grandparents came from. Okay,

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you got me al Pacino's grandparents both from Corleone, Italy.

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Speaker 4: Don't ever take signs with anyone against the family again.

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Speaker 3: Get out of town. I am not kidding.

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Speaker 2: He had a poor background growing up. Like I said,

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his parents divorced and he was raised by his grandparents.

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He dropped out of school when he was seventeen and

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worked as a janitor, messenger, clerk, a bus boy. Sometimes

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he was homeless, but he wanted to be actor. His

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grandparents supported him in this, and he caught his big

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break in nineteen sixty eight when he got to play

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a street punk in the play called The Indian Wants

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the Bronx. He would be in a movie that same

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year and then virtually nothing else, a complete unknown. But

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somehow he caught the eye of a gentleman named Francis

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Ford Coppola, who was convinced, this is the man who

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needs to star in my epic movie, The Godfather.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: The book was released a year after this first play

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that al Pacino did, and it wasn't originally going to

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be titled The Godfather. A few years earlier, this kind

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of heavy set Italian guy shows up in the office

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of Robert Evans, a producer for Paramount Pictures, Yes, which

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had recently been purchased by Gulf and Western. This was

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like the first of the big conglomerates purchasing movie studios.

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This was a time just think about this right now.

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This is late sixties, early seventies. This was a time

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when people thought the movies were dead, Like they didn't

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think any more good movies were coming out. TV was

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kind of ruling the world at that point.

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Speaker 3: Sure sound familiar, Yeah, it sounds like yeahow right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And this set the stage for what would become the

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new Hollywood. The new Hollywood would include George Lucas, Francis

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Ford Coppola, Martin Scorsese, Steven Spielberg and a couple of

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those guys, George Lucas and Francis Ford Coppola, went film

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school together decided to start their own production company, Zoetrope.

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At the time that they formed this company, they were unknowns.

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As it turned out, this business that's run by artists

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wasn't doing too well exactly.

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Speaker 3: They had gone in debt making THCHX eleven thirty eight.

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This was George Lucas's film.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, back to our heavy guy who's walking into the

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office of Robert Evans at Paramount Studio. Right, So he

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walks in and he's got this forty to fifty page

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treatment under his arm for a novel, and he says, look,

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I need money. I liked to gamble and I have

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some debts that I have to pay. Would you be

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interested in optioning a novel that I haven't even written yet?

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And Robert Evans is like, who are you? He tells

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him Mario Puoso I'm friends with. He's like, oh, you're

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that guy who I agreed to meet as a favorite

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to a friend. Okay, yeah, what let me look at

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I don't think he even read it. It was just like,

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let's get this guy out the door, how about twelve

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thousand dollars. Well, Mario Puzo owed about ten thousand dollars,

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so that sounded about right to him.

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Speaker 3: Mario Puso owed ten thousand dollars to mob guys like

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leg breakers.

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Speaker 2: He was an excellent author, but it takes more than

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being good to be successful. So Puzo had written this

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book called The Fortunate Pilgrim, which according to my sources,

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was incredibly good, incredibly intelligent, incredibly well written, and it sold.

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Speaker 3: About five copies.

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Speaker 2: I head this, yes, And what happened was there was

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a character that had not much more than a cameo

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appearance in the movie, that was a Godfather esque type

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of character, and everyone that read his book said, you

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should do something with that guy. That's a stroke of

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genius to find accidentally a character. And somebody says, you

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know what, that dude is interesting. Let's go with that.

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So Robert Evans says, sure, sounds good. I want the

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movie rights to great. See you later. Never expected to

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see anything from him again until the novel gets written.

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As I said, it wasn't supposed to be the Godfather initially,

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you know what the name of it was. At first,

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no mafia.

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Speaker 3: Hah, that word comes into play here shortly.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So he writes The Godfather, and the Godfather explodes.

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It becomes this huge success that now Paramount now has

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the property rights to.

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Speaker 3: That's a great story.

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Speaker 2: A few months later, Mario Puzo calls Robert Evans back

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and he says, would it be a breach of our

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contract if I change the name of the book, And

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he was like, I don't even.

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Speaker 3: Remember who are you?

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Speaker 2: Who is this?

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Speaker 3: And he says, I want to call it The Godfather.

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So the interesting thing to me, though, is that Paramount

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is now holding the rights to this novel that's incredibly popular.

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You can't just sit on it. You have to make

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a movie, right. But they had just come off a

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huge mafia failure in a movie that starred Kirk Douglas

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as this mafia leader called The Brotherhood. Yes, have you

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ever seen that?

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Speaker 2: I have not seen it.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen it either, but I heard it's junk.

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Speaker 2: There have been mob movies around since movies began. I

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mean it was a go to You had James Cagney,

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you had Edward g. Robinson, exactly. But in the late

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sixties early seventies, nobody was interested in any of the

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mob movies.

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Speaker 3: Because here's the problem.

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Speaker 2: They were all the mob was just a bunch of

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greaser guys who deserved whatever they got. There was no

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redeeming value about any of the mobsters.

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Speaker 3: Sure it was all the guys like a man.

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Speaker 2: So they're sitting on top of this beautiful piece of property.

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They say, okay, we got to figure out a way

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to make this a movie. The guy from Gulf Stream

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and Western or whatever it was, his name was blued Horn.

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He was this Swedish guy. He was like, no, no,

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no more gangster movies, No more mafia movies. I don't

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want to do that. And then we're like, but this

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is the Godfather. This has been like weeks and weeks

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on the national bestseller list. He's like, if you can

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make it fast while it's still on the best seller list,

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then we can get something done fast and cheap, fast

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and cheap. Original budget two point five million dollars. I

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want to make them an offul kind of a.

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Speaker 3: Fields even for the seventies. That's really low.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy low. And so they're like, okay, we need

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a producer, we need a director. They go literally in

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the parking lot in the parking lot. They're like, hey,

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there's already.

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Speaker 3: Hey you Hey that guy. He's good.

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Speaker 2: He did the Hogan's hero stuff. He's a guy who's

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got his business together. Let's get him. And they're like, already,

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do you want to do this? He's like, I love

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that book. Yeah, sure, absolutely so already. This guy who's

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like six' Four jewish, guy he has got all kinds of.

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Personality you've listened to this guy. Talk he he's still,

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around still.

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Speaker 3: Around this guy is A jewish man who sold the

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idea of a sitcom in Which american heo w's are

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in A nazi war. Camp, yes, YES i mean. Talking

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he's moxie all over the.

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Speaker 2: Place.

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Speaker 3: Right you know what's really funny To jewish, People Nazis.

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HITLER i, Know.

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Speaker 2: Nasti if you are making if they are the buffoons

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of the, show then you were abound to have. Success

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And Hubn's heroes was a. Success, right it's fun as.

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Show so they, say, hey al how about you produce

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this all? Right who's? Directing? UH i don't, know, Right

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and so they, say, hey we know this, Guy Francis.

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Coppola let's see if he's interested in. It and so they, say,

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Hey francis would like you to direct, this And francis,

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says uh, no. Thanks. Yeah they're, like what we're offering

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you the opportunity to direct a movie that's on the

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best Cellulars and he's, like, yeah you know, WHAT i

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couldn't get past page. Fifty this graphic sex scenes were

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a little too much for, me AND i Just i'm

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not interested in that kind of. Stuff and they're like,

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okay and they start looking. Around he goes back To zoetrope.

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Again he talks To George lucas about what's going, on

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And George lucas is, like what we are in debt

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six hundred thousand? Dollars could you just direct the movie

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for the? Money?

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Speaker 3: Maybe how about you just get us.

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Speaker 2: A little cash before we go belly.

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Speaker 3: Up Francis Ford coppola incredibly gifted, director not known for

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his business. Sense. Though you know some other names that

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were associated with, This the one that stands out to

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me Was Peter. Bogdanovitch that would have been. Interesting twelve

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guys passed on.

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Speaker 2: This, yeah so it's interesting too that they're going to

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The Roger corman, schools. Right bogdanovitch Was Roger corman. Guy

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Francis Ford coppola was A Roger corman. GUY i know

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when we talk about, casting we're gonna be talking About Jack,

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nicholson who is also A Roger corman. Guy they were

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looking for bargain basement deals at this, point and those

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are the guys that they were looking.

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Speaker 3: At Black friday sales right here.

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Speaker 2: Right, so as this novel has gained a, popularity Ultimately

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Francis Ford coppola does decide to. Direct he takes the.

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Novel this is so. Awesome he takes the novel and

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he takes he cuts out every single page and he

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puts the small novel sized pages within the borders of

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a larger eight x eleven piece of paper with the

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middle cutout sees both sides. Right and then he's made

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notes in the margins of the. Novel and now he's

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making notes in the margins of the big pieces of.

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Paper and it's all about how to direct each and

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every scene that he has planned for this. Movie so

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the guys From, paramount they want to make it a modern.

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Take they want to make it in nineteen, seventies and

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they want to base it In Kansas.

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Speaker 3: CITY i see this is crazy to me because it's

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cheaper to go to The. Midwest, yeah, so, hey great,

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idea let's go To Kansas city Or Saint.

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Speaker 2: Louis sure you'll get all kinds Of italian extras in you,

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know the middle of the.

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Speaker 3: Country you know what they say In Kansas city all the,

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time bout a bing brains olive heard college.

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Speaker 2: Jacket So Francis Ford coppola once again banging heads with these,

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guys and he's, like, no, guys, no this needs to be.

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Period peace needs to take place in the, fifties and

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we need to do it In.

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Speaker 3: New york And italy And.

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Speaker 2: Italy, fortunately there weren't that many. SCENES i, mean it

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was mostly wilderness that there a, restaurant a, mansion and

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some grassy.

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Speaker 3: Knolls right those grassy knolls could have been filmed outside

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Of Kansas. City, Yes.

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Speaker 2: So they, Agree they're, like, Okay, francis that's, fine that's,

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fine we will shoot nineteen Fifties New. York there's only one.

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Problem you, know who lives In New York the.

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Speaker 3: Guys the mafia.

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Speaker 2: Guys so in the early nineteen, seventies a guy Named

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Joe colombo had started what was called The Italian American

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Anti Defamation, league which was basically against all these mob

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movies that we had been talking, about against Probably The

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godfather that had just come, out because he felt like

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it portrayed All italians as these hit, men mob boss connected,

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guys and he wanted to say that not All italians

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are like.

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Speaker 3: That they went After Alka seltzer because they had a

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commercial where the guy's, like that's a spicy meat.

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Speaker 2: BALL i remember those.

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Speaker 3: Commercials they went after those. Guys, yes mom, me that's

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a spicy meat.

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Speaker 2: Board there's only one. Problem Joe colombo was the boss

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of one of the families in the mafia In New

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york at the.

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Speaker 3: Time we're all a part of the same. Hypocrisy All

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italians are not. MOBSTERS i KNOW i, am but not

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All italians. Are so this became a really big. Movement

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they had a large arge, following WHICH i have to

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think has something to do with extortion racketeering That bob

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was involved. In hey you're going to join the? Club

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or what made my Friend rocco over here to help

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you make a.

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Speaker 2: Decision whenever it was announced that they would be trying

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to film this Movie The godfather In New York. City

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The Italian American Anti Defamation league said, no no, Way

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we're not going to let this.

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Speaker 3: Happen, yeah they had, Rallies they even had death. Threats

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they had to Clear Paramount studios. Twice Al ruddy was

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receiving phone calls that were threatening and. Mysterious one, day

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he lets his secretary as assistant drive his car. Home that,

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night in her, driveway they blow out the windshield of the.

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CAR i, mean this was serious, stuff And i'll mention

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this right. Now there is a series that's coming. Out we, said,

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okay what are we going to do for our season three?

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Opener we Did batman because The batman movie's coming. Out

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we're Doing.

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Speaker 2: Godfather because it's the fiftieth anniversary Of The godfather right,

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now right fifty years ago this, MONTH A godfather.

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Speaker 3: Came out l twenty, fourth nineteen seventy. Two as it turns,

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out some other people noticed that this was fifty years

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since the, release and so they put together A tv

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series that's about to come out Called The. Offer so

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met with all of this opposition already goes To Mario

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puzo and is, like, hey can you talk to these.

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Guys You're italian and he's, like they hate.

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Speaker 5: ME i am.

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Speaker 3: Not, no there's no chance That i'm going to go

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talk to any of These you Think i'm gonna get

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mixed up with these guys right.

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Speaker 2: Way so this is The maxie that already. Says he,

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says you know What i'm Gonna i'm gonna go talk to.

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Him these guys have been giving him death. Threats he

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knows who they, are and so he's, like let's just go.

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In let's just talk to. Him so they go. In

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they meet In Joe colombo's office and he brings the,

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script already brings the. Script he, says, LISTEN i want

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you to just read. This let's talk about. It let's

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let's see what we can, do because we're not out

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to paint All italians as bad. Guys And columbo's, like, okay,

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okay and he's, like, Listen i've got the.

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Speaker 3: Script read. It just read it and tell me if

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there's something you don't, like and let us. Talk let's

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talk About And columbo's got is you know a couple

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of associates with, him and so he's like, okay and

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he opens a page and he's, like fade.

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Speaker 2: In what does fade in, mean and already he's, like,

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okay all, right well that's when the black goes to picture. Serious, yes,

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right it's fade in, mean thank, you. Sirious and so

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he gets frustrated within the first page trying to figure

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out this. Dialogue he hands it to one of the

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associates who's, LIKE i don't know what this is. About

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read this man and so and So Joe colombo looks it,

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already and he looks at his guys and he, says

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you know, WHAT i THINK i like. THAT i like this.

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Guy do you guys like this? Day do we like this?

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Guy and they're, like, YEAH i like this guy, too

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and he, goes you know, WHAT i like, you we like.

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You just do me this, faith don't say the word

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mafia anywhere in a, movie and we'll be cool with.

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It and so already it's LIKE i can do.

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Speaker 3: That that's a.

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Speaker 2: Deal that is a.

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Speaker 3: Deal by the, way one of the members of The

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Italian American Civil Rights, League Frank sinatra.

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Speaker 2: Naturally, so as it turns, out mafia appeared in one

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spot in the entire, script and it WAS i don't

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care how Many Daego guinea Wop mafia greaseball goombas come

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out of the, woodwork and so he erased. Mafia and

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then it BECAME i don't care how Many, Daego, Guinea,

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wop grease ball goombas come out of the.

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Speaker 3: Woodwork I'm, German. Irish, well let me tell you something

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of my. Problem. Friend that's such an easy you just

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cross out the word.

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Speaker 5: Mafia THERE i go.

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Speaker 2: With, Wop, Goomba greece Or, guinea none of. It mafia

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was the, issue and they took it.

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Speaker 3: Out and since he hadn't read the, script he didn't

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know how many times it was in. There one little,

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line one little, line, Boom we're good to.

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Speaker 2: Go it's an OFFER i can refuse right love. It

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so the next day he, thinks oh my, Gosh i've

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narrowly averted massive. Trouble everything's going to be. Good And

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Joe colombo calls him back and, says, HEY i just

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want to touch base with you on, something if you'll

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come by the. Office he goes by his, office he

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walks in the door and all of a sudden he

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is confronted by a horde of newspaper reporters and they've

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got it all set up and he has already has

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no idea what has been set. Up but he's there

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and he's Got Joe colombo and all of these other,

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associates And Joe colombo is letting all of the newspapers

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know that he and the rest of his associates have

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approved the script and that can the movie can be,

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made and already realizes what's going to, happen and sure

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enough it. Happens the newspapers immediately come out and, say

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this movie is getting made because of ties to the.

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Speaker 3: Mafia, wow that's, impressive and you know some of the

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other things that happen because of. That, so because The

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Italian America Civil Rights league is involved in the, production

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you have this Guy Lenny montana who's hanging around all the,

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time who actually worked as an enforcer in The columbo crime.

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Family So francis Ford coppo is, like, dang this guy's, huge,

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right he's, big he's, strong he's. Intimidating maybe we should

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offer him apart he Is Luca. Brassei, yes they hire

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an actual mobster to play an actual.

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Speaker 2: Monsters, yeah because what happens is the, mafia now that

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they've okayed the, film they're like hanging around and they

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are guys who are LIKE i like to be in a.

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MOVIE i, mean you should have the real guys in

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the movie right. HERE i, am we just hire, me

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leave it right. Here and so when the news comes

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out that this movie is tied to the, mafia now

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instead of being banned by the, Mafia golf And Western

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stock takes like a six bajillion dollar. Dip people are,

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like whoa this? Is this is bad and So golf

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And western is, Furious but somehow the movie still gets.

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Speaker 3: Made it's. Incredible by the, WAY i want to circle

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back real quick On Luca brosse And Lenny. Montana, okay,

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Okay So Lenny montana was involved with The colombo crime

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family since the, sixties as In Joe colombo The Colombo family. Exactly,

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yes his talents were mostly as enforcer and. Arsonist wait

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what are your? SKILLS i was an. Arsonist once he

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allegedly tied a tampon to the tail of a, mouse

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dipped it in, kerosene lit it on, fire and let

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the mouse run like crazy through the building to set

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it on.

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Speaker 2: Fire that that's actually pretty. Ingenious, honestly that's pretty. SMART

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i wasn't expecting that From Joe, Montana Luca. Brossi, yeah

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there's much more to, tell but we only have a

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little limited amount of.

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Speaker 3: Time let's move on To The godfather.

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Speaker 5: Too he told, me keep your friends, close but your enemies.

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Speaker 3: Close The Godfather part two actually took pieces from The godfather.

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Novel all the stuff that flashes back To, italy The

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Robert denier, stuff that's all from The godfather.

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Speaker 2: Novel all of The michael parts were Completely Francis Ford.

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Coppola it was all his. Writing, Now Francis Ford coppola

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during the making of this, movie and we'll get back

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to it in a, minute but he was in fear

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of getting fired every single, day and there was a

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key moment that changed that, concern and we'll get into

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that a little bit. Later but at that moment when

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he realized things were good and that this looked like

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it was really going to be, success they started working

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On The Godfather. Too, now the problem was the studio

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wanted him to, direct but he didn't want to Direct

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The Godfather. Too and so he's, like, HEY i got this,

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guy he'd be perfect to. Direct his name Is Martin. Scorsese,

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yeah that's a really cool. Story and they're like, nope,

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nope not good. Enough so he, Said, Okay i'll, direct

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But i've got some, conditions.

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Speaker 3: Right so here are his. Conditions number, one he wants

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to be able to direct his own, movie his own

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script of The Conversation. Logical he wants to be allowed

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to direct a production for The San francisco Opera What What?

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Opera and he wanted to be allowed to write the

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screenplay For The Great Gas peat nineteen seventy. Four, okay,

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okay all prior to production for the sequel of A

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christmas nineteen seventy four. Release oh by the, way No

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Robert evans Or i'm. Out. Wow So Robert evans is

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one of the head guys At.

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Speaker 2: Paramount so if you're familiar with the Kid stays in the,

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picture That's Robert. Evans he's an interesting, guy Interesting hollywood story.

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Guy but apparently he And Francis Ford copola did not get.

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Speaker 3: Along they had a lot of shouting matches.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah oh you know, what there's another thing that kind

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of went along in this same. Area, yeah every day

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they picked him up in this crappy station, wagon took

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him to the set and he's, like this car. Sucks that's. Right,

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sucks but they, said he, said if the movie does

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over fifty million, DOLLARS i want a new, car right,

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Right and so they made that. Agreement and then actually

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the beat up crappy car makes an appearance In American,

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Graffiti Oh, nice which is kind of cool zotrop MOVIE i. Believe, so,

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OKAY i don't know How, FRANK i don't know How

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George lucas is getting out on not having ANY i, know, Right, okay,

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hey you know that just the demands made By francis Port,

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coppola it's like the exaggeration of somebody who knows they're

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on the, spot like in the end Of. Sneakers we're, Like,

464
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OKAY i want the conversation. MADE i want The Great.

465
00:24:28,039 --> 00:24:31,599
GASPY i want pizza for a. Year you, know it's

466
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,440
just all these weird things that you're trying to come

467
00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:37,960
up with on the, spot lifetime supply of. CHOCOLATE i

468
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,119
Want eminem's all the green, ones nothing.

469
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:46,319
Speaker 2: Else so they agree to his. Conditions he becomes the

470
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:52,119
director for his own, script which is partly influenced by

471
00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:56,039
the original Novel The. Godfather that part where we see

472
00:24:56,079 --> 00:25:01,839
we Hear Vito corleone's backstory and then his own, dissension the,

473
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,440
fall if you, will Of Michael corleone into the very

474
00:25:05,519 --> 00:25:08,480
depths of. Hell and it's such a great back and

475
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:10,839
forth to see the rise of one in the fall

476
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,160
of the. Other he did a brilliant job weaving these

477
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,119
two storylines.

478
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: Together the only THING i can compare The corleone character arc. Two,

479
00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:23,200
YEAH i, mean you gotta Think George lucas used it

480
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,039
For Darth, vader.

481
00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:26,759
Speaker 2: Right he was kind Of Darth, vader wasn't. He he

482
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,640
was the golden child who ultimately ended up being the ultimate.

483
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,759
Speaker 3: Villain he's the Chosen one and went pure evil all

484
00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:36,319
in the darkest.

485
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: Point, Yeah i'll say this, now there is A godfather.

486
00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:43,839
Three it's not as bad As superman. Four BUT i

487
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,079
really didn't care for, it AND i didn't do any

488
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,680
lookbacks at all on.

489
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,279
Speaker 3: That so here's the interesting thing about The godfather. Three

490
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:52,640
i've never seen. IT i can't comment on. It here's

491
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,240
WHAT i do. Know, YEAH i Know Robert duval wasn't in, it,

492
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,079
Right AND i know That francis Port cooppola's daughter was

493
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,119
kind of the Main, careara AND i know that that

494
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,839
didn't really go so. Well, Yeah AND i also know

495
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:06,559
that it went head to head in the theaters Against,

496
00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:08,079
goodfellas and there you have.

497
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 5: It.

498
00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 3: Yeah the interesting thing to me About The Godfather part

499
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,799
two is this is a time when sequels aren't really ever.

500
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: Made there has been no movie before this movie in

501
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,880
THE us that had part part, two not.

502
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,559
Speaker 3: One that's. Incredible that was one of his.

503
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,759
Speaker 2: CONDITIONS i wanted to be called part two because people

504
00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:29,079
need to know that it is tied to the.

505
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 3: Knovel, yeah and ever since, then every summer we have part,

506
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,480
Two part, three part four of something else.

507
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,799
Speaker 2: And the BEAUTIFUL i, mean he does it in a

508
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:41,519
beautiful way because the bulk of the movie takes place In, nevada,

509
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,160
RIGHT i mean they've moved over To Las. Vegas they're

510
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,839
doing an entirely different. Style but the very first scene

511
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,920
is a continuation of the very last scene Of The.

512
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,240
Godfather really that takes place In Lake. Tahoe, Right, no

513
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:58,359
the very first scene even like before the like as

514
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,200
the credits are rolling at the beginning the opening, credits

515
00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:04,640
it shows the guy kissing his ring as he sits

516
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,599
in the, chair just like the end Of The. Godfather ah, right, okay, yeah,

517
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,240
Interesting and then once we do the credits then it

518
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:16,319
goes To Lake. Tahoe, yes, Okay so obviously in between

519
00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:20,079
these two movies we have the success Of The, godfather, right.

520
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,680
YEAH i mean people are lined up in the streets

521
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,039
to go watch this. Movie AND i think largely in

522
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:29,160
part for all the media attention it got because of

523
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,920
it running head to head with The mob and then

524
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,960
seeming to be.

525
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,079
Speaker 3: In cahoots with the. Mob this is like some of

526
00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:36,799
the other movies we've covered where there it's just like

527
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:40,559
a mega, success, right like a shocking mega. Success it's

528
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,519
like a nuclear. Bomb the budget was right around you,

529
00:27:43,519 --> 00:27:46,559
know six seven million. Dollars, yes in nineteen seventy, two

530
00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:49,079
that's made two hundred and eighty seven million.

531
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:52,559
Speaker 2: Dollars kind of the time For francis to make some

532
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,960
demand so that he can direct his.

533
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,079
Speaker 3: OPERA i want chicken nuggets every day on the set

534
00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:02,359
with the honey. Mustard just in, Comparison, Yeah goodfellas made

535
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:08,160
forty seven million. Dollars, wow big, difference, right not a huge.

536
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 2: Success, now there were a few new cast. Members there

537
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,680
were a couple of cast members that kind of got

538
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:18,640
left out or were portrayed by different. Actors we can

539
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,519
get onto all of that in casting here in just

540
00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:24,279
a little. Bit but the important thing to remember is

541
00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:28,799
That The godfather became a world changing. Movie and WHEN

542
00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:31,759
i say, THAT i mean there were things that happened

543
00:28:31,759 --> 00:28:35,920
In The godfather that The mafia didn't do but then started.

544
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,160
Doing they adopted. Them like The godfather was not a

545
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,759
term that was used very, often but after this, movie

546
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,240
everybody in The mafia was started to throw that term

547
00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:49,480
around as the leader of a particular. Family it's funny

548
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,920
to see art imitate, life and then life then imitate that.

549
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: Art it's, crazy you. Know just one of the things

550
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,920
you're talking about. There Mario puzo didn't know a lot

551
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,920
about The, mafia wasn't really involved in any of, that

552
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,480
and he was just kind of writing about a subject

553
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:05,359
he didn't know a whole lot. About, yeah so one

554
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:08,240
of the mistakes that he made that sort of became

555
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,359
changed in. Culture the main character Of The, godfather, yes

556
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:15,039
Is Don. Corleone, yes but in real life The mafia

557
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,359
they would call him More Don. Vito and since the

558
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,319
movie then changed, that then everybody else sort of adopted.

559
00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: That there's an entire book that's devoted to, this called

560
00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:27,000
The Godfather.

561
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: Effect it gave us a pretty good piece place. Too

562
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:38,920
Godfather's pizza was. Good that suspices beauta. Ball, okay do

563
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,200
we want to go into the production Of.

564
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:50,359
Speaker 6: Goodfellas, Yeah goodfellows came, out as we, said in nineteen, ninety,

565
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:50,960
right yes it.

566
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: Did now we know That The godfather took place in nineteen, fifties, right,

567
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,079
Right and we know That The godfather, too late, fifties

568
00:30:01,119 --> 00:30:04,279
early sixties For michael's, story and then we've got like

569
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:10,880
twenties and thirties For vito's, story, right, Right so you've got, twenties, thirties,

570
00:30:11,799 --> 00:30:16,279
forties a little bit fifties and, sixties and in these you,

571
00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:18,519
know the main part Of The godfather one is the.

572
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:23,920
Fifties well that is Where goodfellas. Starts starts with the

573
00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:27,279
life of a kid who all his life he wanted

574
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:27,920
to be a.

575
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: Gangster as far back AS i can, REMEMBER i always

576
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:37,160
wanted to be a. Gangster So Nicholas poledgie wrote a

577
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,279
book in nineteen eighty five Called Wise, guy and this

578
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,440
book was based largely on the events of the lives

579
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,720
Of Henry, Hill Jimmy, burke And tommy De. Simone, yes

580
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,160
So Henry.

581
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: Hill was a guy who had really lived the mob

582
00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:54,000
life he had as a young, kid started to work

583
00:30:54,319 --> 00:31:00,680
for mobsters in the fifties and. Sixties he ultimately went

584
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,319
and served in the, military where he also ran, scams

585
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:09,599
and ultimately came back and became a part of the mafia.

586
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,880
There but he was a guy who was Half sicilian

587
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,240
and Half, irish so he never had a chance of

588
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:19,920
becoming a maid, man becoming a. Leader he was always

589
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,839
going to be a. Soldier but he was fine with.

590
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,039
That that still meant that he could live the. Life

591
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,279
and he did live that, life and ultimately it went

592
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:30,599
very badly for, him and he had to go into

593
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:33,960
the witness protection program for a while for a little.

594
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: While so the cool thing to me about the birth

595
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:43,400
Of goodfellas the, movie, right according To, Pulegi scorsese just cold, calling, Right,

596
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,440
yeah just called him out of. Blue, Yep, Hi, nick

597
00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:51,200
this Is Marty. Scorsese, Yeah i'm. Sorry, well and he told, him,

598
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:54,319
Listen i've been waiting for this book my entire. Life,

599
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:55,880
YEAH i want to make this a.

600
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: MOVIE i, mean keep in, Mind Martin, scorsese Like Francis Ford,

601
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:04,799
coppola had Grown He's. Italian they'd both grown up In

602
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:07,839
New York, Now Martin scorsese lived in an area that

603
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,960
was less mob involved than many other, folks but he

604
00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:17,359
still understood that. Perspective he still understood The italian way of.

605
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,559
LIFE i mean it's important to, NOTE i mean why

606
00:32:20,599 --> 00:32:24,359
the mafia exists in the first. Place, Okay So sicily

607
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,960
is this little island that's off the boot Of, italy

608
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:31,799
and it's gone through several, countries taken over power, there

609
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:35,480
and ultimately it ends up kind of in this feudal.

610
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:41,079
System there's a big revolution and then the serfs the

611
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:43,839
peasants end up getting a bunch of property and owning.

612
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,680
Stuff but there's no real police force, there, Right and

613
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:51,000
so what happens is these peasants start hiring thugs to

614
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:54,960
protect their. Farmland and eventually the thugs, go you, know

615
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:57,279
we've got the most power. Here why are we letting

616
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:59,440
them be the. Boss we're going to be the. Boss

617
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:03,440
so what they do is they have these peasants pay

618
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,640
them for, protection and that is the extortion racket that

619
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,400
the mafia itself is based. Upon. Right and so you

620
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,920
get these little families who have become the police force

621
00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:21,640
and they're essentially policing. Themselves but it grows into a

622
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,480
system where, yes we're going to protect you from. Us you,

623
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:27,160
know if you don't pay, us then you're going to

624
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:30,359
reap the wrath of. Hell but if you do pay

625
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,039
us will not attack you and we will protect. You

626
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,319
but it is largely based on things that are against the. Law,

627
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,240
well when the turn of the century, happens we have

628
00:33:41,319 --> 00:33:45,559
a huge amount Of sicilians And italians who come over

629
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:48,400
to The United states and they bring that way of

630
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,240
life with them because they are not given good, jobs

631
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:54,720
they are not given good places to, live and so

632
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:59,039
they bring that same system with, them and that is

633
00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:02,680
how you get the beginnings of the mafia in The United.

634
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,319
States then something happens in the early twentieth. Century there

635
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,880
is a push against alcohol in The United. States it

636
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,159
is amazing how Much americans used to drink comparatively speaking to. Now,

637
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,559
surprisingly they drink more in the early nineteen hundreds than

638
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:20,719
they do. Now and it became an, issue and so

639
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,719
a lot of women group together and they, said we

640
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,800
want to outlaw, alcohol and ultimately they get an amendment

641
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,599
to The constitution passed which said The United states is

642
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,280
now dry.

643
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: Prohibition, well this was just.

644
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: The opportunity that the mafia needed to make themselves extremely

645
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,079
wealthy and extremely. Powerful by the time prohibition is repealed

646
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:47,760
in nineteen thirty, three it's too. Late they now have

647
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,400
their fingers in everything, illegal and they are far too

648
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,079
powerful to.

649
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: Fight they.

650
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,639
Speaker 2: Have judges on the, payroll they have police on the,

651
00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:01,280
payroll they have city attorneys on the pay and they

652
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,280
are a force to be reckoned with that continues to

653
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,760
grow and. Grow and that's a lifestyle that looks good

654
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,119
To Henry.

655
00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: Hill, yeah he always wanted to be a, gangster. Right so,

656
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,800
anyway So poleggi Calls Martin. Scorsese, Yes Martin scorsese had

657
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,239
sworn off gangster, movies but then he reads this book

658
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,760
and he's, like, man this book is. Fantastic, Yeah so

659
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,840
he cold Calls polegi and, says this is the Book

660
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,719
i've been waiting for my entire, Life And peleggi, says

661
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,519
this is the phone Call i've been waiting for my entire.

662
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:33,840
Life to. Me the interesting thing, is you, Know Martin

663
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:39,639
scorsese in the late eighties was kind of persada nongrada

664
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,000
because of The Last temptation Of.

665
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:44,119
Speaker 2: Christ in the, seventies he had done taxi driver nineteen

666
00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:46,760
EIGHTY i think was When Raging bull came. OUT i,

667
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,760
MEAN i gotta say. THIS i don't Think robert De

668
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,280
niro would have Been robert De niro Without Martin. Scorsese

669
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,480
AND i don't Think Martin scorsese would have Been Martin

670
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,440
scorsese Without robert De. Niro, SURE i mean they, were

671
00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:00,079
they made each.

672
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:03,119
Speaker 3: Speaking OF i, mean there's so much we could talk.

673
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,400
About but in our home, state just an hour or so,

674
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,320
away they're Shooting killers of The Flower.

675
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,519
Speaker 2: Moon, yeah With robert De. Niro robert De.

676
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:14,039
Speaker 3: Niro my sister said that her friend rented her house

677
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:16,760
out To robert De niro get out of town In. Tulsa, yes.

678
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,480
Fantastic so, anyway.

679
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 2: That's a long relationship right. There, yeah seventy six and

680
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,400
now that's forty six. Years scorsese is still making great, movies,

681
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,039
yep Including gangs Of New York That. Departed he does

682
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:33,280
have a flavor for the gang mafia mob.

683
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: Style by the, way small side note, Here goodfellows was

684
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,119
originally titled Wise, guy BUT i think there was a

685
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:44,000
movie in nineteen eighty seven Called Wise guys that was

686
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,239
kind of a little bit close to that time. PERIOD

687
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:47,440
tv SERIES.

688
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 2: Tv, yeah, okay, YEAH i Had Ken wall And Jonathan,

689
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,519
banks and they.

690
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,199
Speaker 3: Didn't want to be associated with that in any, way

691
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,920
so they changed the name To, goodfellas which they talk

692
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,559
about in the. Movie is you know that? Guy he's

693
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:02,800
a good. Fella he's a good.

694
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,039
Speaker 2: Guy. Okay So Nicholas peleggie was a crime, reporter, right

695
00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:11,760
and that's how he got his material for Wise guy

696
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,599
by chronicling the life Of Henry. Hill interesting note on

697
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:20,599
the cover of Wise. Guy it's Says Nicholas pleggie Wise,

698
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:24,119
Guy life in a mafia. Family and then you know

699
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:26,880
they always have the review quotes at the. Bottom it,

700
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:33,119
says a fascinating, Book Mario. Puso that's. Cool so he

701
00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:36,719
Writes Wise. Guy he gets this call From Martin. Scorsese

702
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,840
Martin scorsese, says, HEY i want you to work with

703
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,639
me together to make this into a script THAT i

704
00:37:41,639 --> 00:37:44,719
can make the movie For, YES i, mean what else

705
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,519
do you say to? That but, yes of course. Yeah

706
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:48,800
and then of course he also ends up writing the

707
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:51,760
book that the Movie casino is based upon as.

708
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,079
Speaker 3: Well did you know That Nicholas pledgie wrote that? Back,

709
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:54,480
yeah he.

710
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,159
Speaker 2: Wrote a book Called Casino love And honor In Las,

711
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,840
vegas and he helped write the screenplay For, casino both,

712
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,719
obviously of which we're directed By Martin.

713
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 3: Scorsese, wow that's a cool. MOVIE i like that movie a.

714
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,039
Speaker 2: Lot, yeah so they work on the script.

715
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:10,599
Speaker 3: TOGETHER i love.

716
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,159
Speaker 2: This as part of the script writing, Process Martin scorsese

717
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,840
will write down the name of songs that he wants

718
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,400
in the. Scene that's fantastic to, Me like he's got

719
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:23,079
an encyclopedic knowledge of what obviously is a lot of,

720
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:25,559
music but we can say for this one is classic

721
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:26,280
rock best.

722
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: DEFINITELY i know he uses in the Kiss, ME i

723
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,599
know he Uses, leila and then he always Uses Gimme

724
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:34,559
shelter by The Rolling, stones which is one of my

725
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:35,159
Favorite stones.

726
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,079
Speaker 2: Songs, OKAY i know there's lots more to, tell BUT

727
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:39,840
i really would like to jump in a.

728
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 3: Cast, well let's jump into. Casting let's put back To

729
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,679
The godfather and we'll talk casting of this incredible.

730
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:58,039
Speaker 5: Movie.

731
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: Now i've already talked about the fact that Al pacino

732
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,039
is a basically an unknown actor at this, point, Right,

733
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,679
yes and of course the studios didn't want. Him BUT

734
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,199
i think my favorite story in this vein is Whenever

735
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,960
Francis Ford coppola is, SAYING i would like For Marlon

736
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,639
brando to play the title, role and they were, like

737
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:26,719
no freaking, way, no, no, no, no not just, no

738
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,000
but heck. No you got guys who are interested in,

739
00:39:29,039 --> 00:39:30,840
it Like Orson, Wells.

740
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah Orson, Wells Lawrence, Olivier Ernest, Borgnine Burt, Lancaster GEORGE. C,

741
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:40,440
scott and none of these guys there's Screaming italian to, me,

742
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:44,760
right none of. Them, WELL i Mean Marlon Brando's, dutch.

743
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,199
Speaker 2: Right, right you Got, english you Got, dutch you Got.

744
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,880
German it's there's a lot of there's a lot of

745
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,280
Not italian, there, Right but the guy That Francis Ford

746
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:01,000
coppola wants Is, brando, Right and so The resident Of

747
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:06,440
paramount says to, him, LOOK i am telling you there

748
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:12,320
is no way That Marlon brando will ever be in this,

749
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,119
movie to Which Francis Ford coppola then throws himself onto

750
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,039
the floor and just lays there like a baby and

751
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:24,039
is just, like, oh, WELL i don't even know why

752
00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:26,239
we're even, talking if you're not even gonna listen to,

753
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,800
me and if there's just nothing THAT i can say

754
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,280
to make you think that there might even be a

755
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,440
possibility That brando might be in this. Movie they're, like, okay,

756
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,440
okay we've got some. Conditions if you meet these, conditions

757
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,880
we'll consider Having brando in the. Movie and so they

758
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,400
give these ridiculous.

759
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: Conditions. Yeah so the conditions. Are number, one he's got

760
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,039
to do a screen.

761
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: Test we're talking About Marlon, brando.

762
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,519
Speaker 3: The greatest actor of the. Generation car name, desire, Right

763
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,000
he's Freaking Marlon. Brando he's an. Icon so screen. Test

764
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:00,840
gotta do a screen, Test, yeah number one hurdle the

765
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,400
studio knows never going to get.

766
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: Packed, Hey, Marlon i'm this director who's never directed anything

767
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:07,000
you've ever heard of in your.

768
00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 3: Life you've never heard of, Me BUT i need you

769
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,039
to do a screen. Test would you come in and

770
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:14,920
do some screen test for? Me, yes so number one screen.

771
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,400
Test number, two lower. Salary he's got to do it for,

772
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,320
free is what they told. Him oh my, gosh free ninety. Three,

773
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,719
yeah if you can get him to do it for,

774
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,639
free then We're. Oh and also he's got to post

775
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:29,480
a bond in case he screws up production or filming

776
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,400
in any. Way, well he was notorious for bad, behavior

777
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:34,599
just being a he's a terrible person on.

778
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 2: Set he's he is a, prankster and he is also a,

779
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,039
temperamental obnoxious, guy and he would just screw stuff.

780
00:41:42,119 --> 00:41:45,159
Speaker 3: Up you cannot like him on what come?

781
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:50,639
Speaker 2: On that's how you turn on A hollywood crislock a.

782
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:53,480
Woman what COULD i?

783
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 5: Do what CAN i? Do?

784
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 2: Right? Right you will remember from Our superman episode where

785
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,320
he suggested to To Gick donner that maybe a green

786
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,480
suitcase could play the part and he could just do

787
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:08,199
the voice For direlle a green suitcase or a.

788
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,559
Speaker 3: Cheeseburger and then it had been a long time Since

789
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:13,599
Marlon brando had had hit, right mutiny on The. BOUNTY

790
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:16,199
i think was nineteen sixty, two that's nearly ten years

791
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,239
prior to and he's he's bulging up a little. Bit,

792
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,039
yeah he got a little. Thicker they also asked him

793
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:23,320
to lose. Weight, yeah you, know go talk To, marlon

794
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,679
tell him to lose some. Weight So coppola is, like, okay, fine, yes,

795
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,559
yes and yes. Right so he goes To, brando goes

796
00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:33,360
to his, House, yeah goes to his. House that, says,

797
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,000
listen Mister, brando you're the only one who can pull this.

798
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,760
Off we gotta have. You, oh AND i have to

799
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,559
do some like special effects type of. Things they just

800
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:45,159
want to see, how you, know the costume and you

801
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,320
know how your voice is going to. Be it's not

802
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,480
a screen test or. Anything don't worry about that anything

803
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,000
but a screen. Test and so they see sort of

804
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,519
Tricks brando into, doing you. Know and So brando does

805
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:58,760
his you, know he's, LIKE i think he's going to

806
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,440
look like a. Bulldog, Yeah and so he puts cotton

807
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,599
balls in his. Jowls.

808
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah brando's only forty seven years old this. Time he

809
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,119
looks like this old man in the, movie but he's

810
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:12,719
only forty. Seven he's got long blonde hair like a, Ponytail,

811
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,320
yeah in a ponytail when he shows. Up and so

812
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,800
when he, starts when he starts trying to feel out this,

813
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,840
character he pulls the, ponytail pulls the blonde hair, back

814
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,519
and starts putting shoe polish in his hair to give

815
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:26,800
him The italian black.

816
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:27,039
Speaker 5: Hair.

817
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: Yep and then that's when he puts the cotton balls

818
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,719
in his jowls and he starts to work with his

819
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:32,559
voice a little.

820
00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 2: Bit he had read the book and he had seen

821
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,519
That Don corleone had had a throat, injury and so he's,

822
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:41,920
like he's probably probably talks like this in the real

823
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,559
congressional hearings where they had the mobsters come.

824
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: In, yeah one of the guys actually talked like that

825
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,920
guy's name Is Frank, costello thank. You, yeah saw him

826
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,400
talking or you, know whispering, yeah during the hearings in

827
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,800
nineteen fifty, one and emulated his husky. Yeah only he

828
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,360
didn't say any. Words he just went if he should

829
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,800
be struck by, lightning THAT i will not.

830
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: Forgive and so he transforms in front of these handheld

831
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:17,119
video cameras That Francis Ford coppele has brought with. Him

832
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:20,320
francis takes these tapes and he goes To gulf And,

833
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,639
western which is you, know LIKE i, Said, bluehorn The swedish, guy,

834
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,559
right you, know.

835
00:44:24,599 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: The guys who know nothing about making. Movies.

836
00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:30,079
Speaker 2: Right so he in the lobby there sets up the

837
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:32,760
A tv so that he can show these tapes that

838
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,880
he's made Of brando And bluehorn has no idea what's.

839
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,639
Coming he just knocks on the door And bluehorn's, like, Oh,

840
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:44,599
francis come. In you KNOW i can't do A swedish. Accent, yeah,

841
00:44:44,679 --> 00:44:47,800
no probably not, that but he's but he's, like, hey

842
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,559
come out, Here i'd like to show you. Something and

843
00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:52,519
he turns on the video and It's brando with his

844
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:55,039
blonde hair And bluehorn is.

845
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:58,679
Speaker 7: Like, What, No, no we are not Having. Brando, no

846
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:02,599
and he's, like oh my, gosh and he's watching him.

847
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:07,800
Transform he, goes that is. Amazing, okay he can be The.

848
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: Godfather, wow that's. Awesome so they've Got, brando and Actually

849
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:15,880
brando won it. Over olivier said he was, sick he

850
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,559
couldn't do. It, yeah which THAT'S i think that's kind

851
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:21,800
of who they, initially like the studio really was. After

852
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,639
and then it came down To GEORGE. C, scott which

853
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:29,679
had worked With francis Port copla On, Patten Ernest borgnine

854
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,960
And Marlon. Brando that's a different movie With Ernest borgnine

855
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,239
as The Don. Vito, yeah then they wanted to hire Al.

856
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,159
Pacino you talked a little bit about that As Michael. Corleone,

857
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:44,079
yep he was an. Unknown francis Ford cople literally called

858
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:49,239
Up Al, Pacino Bobby duvall And James kahn and, said,

859
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,519
hey can you guys just come down here and let's

860
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:54,599
just play around with this and see what. Happens, yeah

861
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,719
SO i love this. Story so he gets gets them

862
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,519
to do this little screen test that come and they

863
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,760
visit and sit around And james conn says that they

864
00:46:03,079 --> 00:46:05,840
did it all for about the price of four corn beef. Sandwiches,

865
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,079
right they got. Fed that was their pay for the,

866
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:09,679
day was that they got, fed and they got to

867
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,880
sit at a table and they got to act out

868
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,039
like in character who the brothers. Were, yeah very, minor very,

869
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:19,360
cheap very. Easy and the studio is, like, no we

870
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,599
want you to do some real screen tests with real.

871
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,119
Speaker 2: Actors, Right so they brought In robert De. Niro, well

872
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:26,239
they brought In Martin.

873
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,119
Speaker 3: Sheen, yes they brought In Jack, Nicholson Dustin, Hoffman Robert,

874
00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:34,920
Redford Warren, Batty ryan. O'Neill and like you, Said Martin,

875
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,400
sheen one guy at the studio Wanted Charles. Bronson. Wow, okay,

876
00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:42,920
oh and here's the other. Name they came up, With Burt. Reynolds.

877
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,519
Wow Burt. Reynolds And Marlon brando, said if you Hire Burt,

878
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:54,360
Reynolds i'm, out which is. Funny he didn't think he

879
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:54,559
was a.

880
00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:56,679
Speaker 2: Very good, actor in which you, know, well and what's

881
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,599
hilarious is already ends up working With Burt. Reynolds Cannonball,

882
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:03,840
Run Anniball, run one of our favorite movies already is

883
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,679
The guy on The. Camel this Tall jewish guy is

884
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:08,239
playing An.

885
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 3: Arab, Yeah Jamie farr is a camel. Guy, yes that

886
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,920
was Six lamburgers or sheesh. Keebobs they signed us and

887
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,360
to a, minute Apparently Burt reynolds had been in an

888
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,719
episode of The Twilight zone and he had in some

889
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:30,400
way Emulated Marlon brando's, mannerisms And branda was. Pissed what

890
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:30,760
is the?

891
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,599
Speaker 4: QUESTION i, mean like any slop can walk through the.

892
00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:37,079
DOOR i mean LIKE i do it every. Day but uh,

893
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,719
well now MAYBE i shouldn't walk through the door at that.

894
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,920
Moment SO i got to ask, myself WOULD i walk

895
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,519
through that. Door it's on the basis of that answer

896
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:54,599
THAT i find my. Motivation so the question, is what's my? Motivation?

897
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: Oh, Hi Bert, Reynolds i'm. Out, Wow, okay it's.

898
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,199
Speaker 2: Interesting in the book he's described the character Of michael

899
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,440
is described as a, taller blonde. Guy he does not Look,

900
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:10,719
italian which is interesting for the character himself and interesting

901
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,840
FOR i guess how probably a whole lot of the

902
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,239
people were picturing him who had read the, book including the.

903
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,800
Producers but after all of these screen, tests WHAT i

904
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,280
think they spent like four hundred thousand dollars on screen.

905
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 3: Tests, yeah they got all these guys for the price

906
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,159
of forb corbefs have much the same.

907
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,679
Speaker 2: Three guys that had come down that first.

908
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 5: Day.

909
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah so they Hired James khn to Be, Sonny, Yes

910
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,199
sentino and listen to me a.

911
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 6: Favorite Ton no more advice on how to patch things,

912
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,159
up just help me win, please all.

913
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 5: Right.

914
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 3: Yep they looked At Anthony perkins flashback to Our psycho. Episode, wow,

915
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,559
okay but they really Wanted James con all. Along in,

916
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:50,199
fact they actually tried him At, Sonny they tried him

917
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:53,079
At michael At, michael, yeah and they tried him At

918
00:48:53,159 --> 00:48:58,119
Tom Hagen oh. Wow. Okay by the, Way James con Not, Italian, No,

919
00:48:58,119 --> 00:48:59,000
no He's. Jewish.

920
00:48:59,079 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: Yes.

921
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:03,079
Speaker 3: Yes they had Hired Diane keaton to play k, Corleone,

922
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,599
Yes and she had worked and done plays and stuff

923
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:10,519
with Al, pacino and she was testing with these, guys uh.

924
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:12,960
Huh and they went to her and they're, like who

925
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,519
do you? Want you, like who's your and she's, like,

926
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:17,239
oh without a, doubt.

927
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,559
Speaker 2: Right and there is another lady who is very important

928
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:23,519
to the decision making process on Al pacino was the

929
00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:27,400
lady who edited all of those screen tests. Together it

930
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,360
Was George lucas's.

931
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,679
Speaker 3: Wife that's, Right Marcia.

932
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: Lucas Marcia, lucas, who by the, way Saved Star wars

933
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,719
with her editing. Skills saved. It, yes so she's there before.

934
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,599
Long this is this is at least five or six

935
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:44,159
years Before Star. Wars she is, there she is doing

936
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:47,559
the editing for these screen, tests and she says it

937
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:51,000
needs to be Al pacino because he undresses you with his.

938
00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 3: Eyes love. That we're going to talk About Star wars

939
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,039
later this. Year it's forty five years this year's ladies and.

940
00:49:57,079 --> 00:50:01,599
Gentlemen all, right you mentioned that they Hired Robert duvall

941
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:06,599
to Be Tom, hagen business not. Personally your father was

942
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:10,719
business not, Personal. Sonny listen to this list of what

943
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,840
IF's Tom. Hagen Bobby duvall was, Awesome, like that's my

944
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,639
favorite Character Tom. Hagen, Wow, Okay Jerry Van, Dyke Bruce,

945
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,840
Dern steve, McQueen Paul. Newman but this is the one

946
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,320
that gets Me. Elvis presley wanted to Play Tom.

947
00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 2: Hagen elvis as the consign through a.

948
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,119
Speaker 3: Body, okay how about? That? Interesting very, interesting, Right and

949
00:50:34,159 --> 00:50:37,199
then you Have. Fredo Fred russ was a guy in

950
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,440
charge of. Casting he Saw John cazell in an Off

951
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,119
broadway play Called. Life he, said we were looking for Fred,

952
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:45,159
oh we didn't know Who John cazeale. Was but when

953
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:47,679
they saw that, play they're, like That's. BRAIDO i did handle.

954
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,519
Things i'm, smart like everybody.

955
00:50:50,599 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 5: Says.

956
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah and he looks like a member of the. FAMILY

957
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,199
i don't know. HOW i don't know, why but for some,

958
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,000
reason he looks like he belongs to that, family even

959
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:01,079
THOUGH i couldn't say that he looks like any of those.

960
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:02,920
Guys it's just, like somehow he.

961
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 3: Fits it's incredible how subtle he is as the, weaker you,

962
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,360
know more deferent.

963
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: Brother it takes some chops to be a weak character

964
00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:14,880
who wants to be a strong.

965
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:22,119
Speaker 3: Person that's the WAY i, Wanted. Mike and then let's

966
00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:26,719
talk real quickly About Johnny. Fontaine, Okay Johnny fontaine was

967
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,239
played By Al. Martino, okay now.

968
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:30,519
Speaker 2: He had to.

969
00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 3: Hit Al martino had a hit in the, fifties go,

970
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,360
ahead go, ahead, okay fifty. Two, well so many people

971
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,960
think that this character is based On Frank, sinatra, right

972
00:51:39,559 --> 00:51:42,599
in terms of his role with the Movie From here To.

973
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,480
Eternity in, Fact Frank sinatra Saw Mario puzzo at a

974
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:47,800
restaurant and cussed him.

975
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,519
Speaker 2: Out, sure except that it's not based On Frank, sinatra

976
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,840
at least not. Directly, well, right it's based on the

977
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,760
actor that Played Johnny.

978
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,639
Speaker 3: Fontaine Al martino was a singer in the. Nightclub he, said,

979
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,480
hit a, hit and then he lost the. Part copola

980
00:52:03,559 --> 00:52:05,159
came in and, said, no we don't want this, guy

981
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,360
get him out of. Here we Want Vic. Damone and Then,

982
00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:13,480
martino who had mafia, dealings went to a crime boss and, said,

983
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,480
hey they just fired, me and they're, like, no this

984
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:19,360
is not something that will. Pass so they have to

985
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,719
go and go back To copola and they're, like he

986
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,679
is your, man and that's. It they made him an

987
00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:29,079
offer he could not, refuse you know that head of

988
00:52:29,159 --> 00:52:32,440
the horse in your. Bed so he had had a

989
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,880
hit in the fifties with three singles and they all

990
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,639
hit the top. Forty but his success attracted the attention

991
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,719
of the, mafia and the mafia bought Out martino's management

992
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,440
contract and ordered him to pay a seventy five thousand

993
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:55,440
dollars safeguard for their. Investment so he's got these ties

994
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,079
to the, mafia which is how he gets this part

995
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,719
in this. Movie so, No Mario puzzo probably did not

996
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,840
base it upon. Him he just made his life mirror

997
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,280
that Of Johnny. Fonteine that's. Incredible according to behind the scenes,

998
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,039
Stories Marlon brando wanted Al martino fired and said so

999
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,480
to his, face this guy looks like a wooden. Board

1000
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,760
you gotta get him out of. Here and Al martino,

1001
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,280
says you say that, Again i'm gonna mess you. Up

1002
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:24,559
And brando's, like, see that's the type of acting we

1003
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:30,039
need right, there and so he kept his. Part, okay

1004
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:31,840
two more PEOPLE i want to talk about really. Quick,

1005
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:38,920
Yeah Simonetta. Stefanelli this Is michael's Beautiful italian, wife the

1006
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,800
girl he goes Across. Sicily she's the babe of the

1007
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,440
village and he marries this.

1008
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 5: Girl uh.

1009
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: Huh and, boy she was sixteen cup no, way, sixteen

1010
00:53:50,199 --> 00:53:54,599
my friend sixteen years. Old, yes you're killing me right. Now,

1011
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:55,400
yes she's.

1012
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: Beautiful she was, beautiful and that was. IT i told

1013
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,400
you about that bible That coppola had made out of the.

1014
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,039
Novel that was a big part of. It it's like

1015
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,599
she has got to melt the heart of every man

1016
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,800
in the, theater and they did a great job with.

1017
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 3: That but sixteen that's. Crazy, yeah moving, on moving, On

1018
00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:19,559
no more talk about. Her that's, Okay, shelly she shows

1019
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:22,280
up for about twenty minses and then gets blown. UP i,

1020
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:28,480
Know English Amanda, Tuesday, Sunday. Wednesday she's also a good.

1021
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:32,440
Driver and, LASTLY i want to talk About Talia Shire

1022
00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:36,960
Francis ford coppolas sister that blew me. Away she's. Great she's,

1023
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:39,960
EIGHT i, KNOW i. Know but that didn't happen for

1024
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,400
a couple of, years right that was he was seventy. Six,

1025
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:47,440
yeah seventy, Six, okay but The, yeah she did a fantastic.

1026
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:49,039
Job you can say how she get the park because

1027
00:54:49,039 --> 00:54:50,840
it's but he does. THAT i, mean he puts his

1028
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,280
family in the, movies and he even SAYS i like

1029
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,280
to do it because.

1030
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a THING i can go back.

1031
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,840
To and, hey remember, When by the, way another family

1032
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,719
member appears in the God. Father her name Is Sophia coppola.

1033
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,199
Speaker 3: She's the baby at the. Christening is the baby at the.

1034
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,079
Christening she actually then grows up to Being godfather, three

1035
00:55:09,079 --> 00:55:11,719
AND i think now she's just she's a. Director, yeah

1036
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,440
she's a, director and she's had some, great great Success

1037
00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:18,559
The lost In translation and other. Stuff she makes fantastic.

1038
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:21,119
Movies she doesn't act as much. Anymore let's switch To

1039
00:55:21,159 --> 00:55:24,199
Godfather part two for. Casting all, right so you have

1040
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:29,440
everybody From Godfather part one Except Marlon. Brando Marlon brando

1041
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,199
as a. No he well he was a yes until

1042
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,360
like they're, like, well Where's.

1043
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 2: Marlon, right for the very last scene of the, movie

1044
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,079
everybody showed back. Up, Right you Had James, cohn who

1045
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:45,159
had died in the first. One you've got All fredo Al.

1046
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:48,480
Pacinoo all of those guys are. There and it was

1047
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,039
supposed to be a birthday celebration For Vito corleon And

1048
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,840
brando was supposed to show, up and he did. It

1049
00:55:55,159 --> 00:55:57,559
and so that's why you have this scene at the

1050
00:55:57,679 --> 00:56:01,000
end of the movie where everyone's. There they're all. Talking

1051
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:04,800
He's michael's talking about how he joined the. Army sonny's all,

1052
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,719
upset and it's this great scene where you start off

1053
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,519
with all of them there at the, table and then

1054
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,280
because he had to rewrite the scene Without Marlon brando in,

1055
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,360
it everyone at the table gets up and leaves to

1056
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,840
go to Say Happy birthday To Don Vito, corleone leaving

1057
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:28,199
Only michael all. Alone WHICH i talk about those accidental,

1058
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,800
drips the magic. Moments Had brando showed, up he would

1059
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,639
not have had that, ending and that ending is in

1060
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,239
an allegory to all Of michael's.

1061
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: Life all, Right so other casting For Godfather part, two

1062
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,519
you had to bring In Michael goatzo to Play frankie five.

1063
00:56:43,559 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 6: Angels, Right, michael are you sitting high up in The

1064
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,679
Sierra mountains and you're drinking what do you?

1065
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,199
Speaker 2: Think it's?

1066
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 8: Champagne champagne champagne cocktails and your passing judgment on HOW

1067
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:56,400
i run my.

1068
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: Fing that was supposed to Be. Clemenza, YEAH i wass

1069
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,000
to Be. Collinson if you, don't if it's been a

1070
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:04,559
minute since you've Seen The, Godfather clemenza is the, big

1071
00:57:04,599 --> 00:57:07,920
heavy guy who Teaches michael how to properly cook some

1072
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:12,280
pasta little, sugar a little. Wine and he's also the

1073
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,960
guy who says leave the, gun take the, canoli which

1074
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,039
was an ad lib. Line he doesn't make it into

1075
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:22,119
the second. One he was supposed to play The frankie

1076
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:25,840
Pin tangily. Part it was supposed to Be clemenza is the.

1077
00:57:26,199 --> 00:57:29,400
Trader he was supposed to be the supposed to testify

1078
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,320
against The corleone. Family, right So clemens is played By Richard.

1079
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,239
Castellano he had lost a lot of weight and didn't

1080
00:57:36,239 --> 00:57:39,440
want to have to gain it, back and he also

1081
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,360
wanted a lot more, money and he WAS i think

1082
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,719
he was like the highest paid. Actor i'm not sure,

1083
00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:45,440
why but he was the highest paid actor In The

1084
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,039
Godfather won and he felt like he wasn't getting enough

1085
00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:51,440
For godfather. Too, well, okay we can make your character somebody.

1086
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,440
Else and so they write him off as died of

1087
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,320
a heart. Attack but not really right that that whole

1088
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,000
thing was kind of. Weird BUT i think that when

1089
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:01,000
he doesn't show, up you've got a doctor in the

1090
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,159
script to make this. Work but it. Worked it. Worked

1091
00:58:04,719 --> 00:58:08,000
so they bring In freaky Five angels and he becomes

1092
00:58:08,039 --> 00:58:10,599
this valuable member of the. Family Michael gotso plays. Him,

1093
00:58:10,639 --> 00:58:14,280
okay you Have Renald kirby Of When Harry Met sally

1094
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,639
And City Slickers, Fame Good Morning.

1095
00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:18,679
Speaker 2: Vietnam this comes. UP i was just trying to be.

1096
00:58:18,719 --> 00:58:19,719
Funny funny is.

1097
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,119
Speaker 3: Gone funny is. Gone but then do it by using

1098
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:28,119
comedy and, humor not police action and coffee. Remarks he

1099
00:58:28,159 --> 00:58:32,119
plays Young. Clemenza, yes and actually one of the reasons

1100
00:58:32,159 --> 00:58:34,519
why he did not come back For City Slickers part

1101
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:37,480
two is because he was irritated At Billy. Crystal but

1102
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:39,800
like directing him on how to, act on how to,

1103
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,519
Act he's, like what are you talking. About i've worked

1104
00:58:41,519 --> 00:58:44,320
with De, Niro i've worked With. Coppola do you don't

1105
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,920
tell me how to? Act that's why he's Not In

1106
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,000
City Slickers part. Two you Have Lee, strasberg who Plays Hymen.

1107
00:58:50,119 --> 00:58:56,880
Roth AND i said to, myself this is the business we've.

1108
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:03,480
CHOSEN i didn't ask who gave the audu because it

1109
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:05,199
had nothing to do with.

1110
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: Business this is interesting at Least. Strasburg i'm a theater.

1111
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:14,360
Major my bachelor's was in. Theater, okay his method is

1112
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,599
a huge part of what we study in the theater.

1113
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:20,559
Program he was pivotal in training all of these, guys

1114
00:59:20,639 --> 00:59:24,639
like all of the famous. Actors it's pivotal In Marlon brando's,

1115
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:27,800
training pivotal in Al pacino And robert De, niro all

1116
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:33,039
of those guys studied Under, Strasburg Stilla Adler elike is

1117
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:36,320
on those. Guys eli Is on was who they wanted

1118
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,840
to play the part Of Hymen roth in this, movie

1119
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,480
but he turned it. Down but here's the interesting, story

1120
00:59:43,559 --> 00:59:47,440
interesting tidbit about. That you know how When strasburg is

1121
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,679
playing the part Of, roth there's one scene where he's

1122
00:59:49,679 --> 00:59:52,280
doing he's gotten no shirt. On there's that old man with,

1123
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:52,960
gray hairy.

1124
00:59:53,079 --> 00:59:53,719
Speaker 3: Chest no.

1125
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: Sure so the reason that they put that scene in

1126
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,239
there is Whenever Francis Ford coppola went to Eli on

1127
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,920
to talk to him about playing this, part eli shows

1128
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,639
up with no shirt. On, ye so he has the

1129
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:10,280
whole interview about playing this part with him and he's

1130
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:11,760
got no shirt on it and he's, like, WELL i

1131
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,920
didn't get the, actor BUT i love that. Moment we're

1132
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:14,760
going to make it a part of the.

1133
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 3: Movie that's that's. Awesome one of the THINGS i wanted

1134
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,440
to mention For Hymen, roth they Wanted Peter. Sellers now

1135
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,960
that's a different. Movie, yeah that's inspector freaking.

1136
01:00:26,119 --> 01:00:29,639
Speaker 2: Clues, OH i did not know That bankwall's being robbed

1137
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,760
BECAUSE i was engaged in my swallom duty as a

1138
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,199
piece office. Off. YEAH i, Mean Peter sellers is an amazing.

1139
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,199
Actor it has been interesting to see what he did with.

1140
01:00:39,239 --> 01:00:42,920
It but, yeah, gosh how about. That that'd be.

1141
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,559
Speaker 3: Crazy. Okay so one of the guy THAT i want

1142
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:48,519
to talk about Is Troy. Donahue Troy donahue the part

1143
01:00:48,599 --> 01:00:53,000
Of Merle. Johnson the anticipation, IS i don't Know Troy

1144
01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:55,840
donahue plays the part Of Merle. JOHNSON i don't know This.

1145
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,960
MERLE i don't know what he, DOES i don't know

1146
01:00:59,000 --> 01:00:59,679
what he lives.

1147
01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 5: On do not.

1148
01:01:01,519 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 3: Marry this, man break it. Up here's the interesting thing about,

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01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,239
That Troy donahue is this like heart throb from the

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01:01:09,239 --> 01:01:11,920
fifties who did surfer movies and stuff like. That, yeah

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01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,920
he's playing the part Of Merle. Johnson Troy donahue's real

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01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:17,039
name Is Merle. Johnson.

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01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah if you get a poster on your wall and

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01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,239
the name on the bottom Is Troy, donahue that's something to.

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01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:25,239
Behold and if It's Merle, johnson you're, like is he

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01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:25,760
a country?

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01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,719
Speaker 3: Singer is this that? Part they looked At Sonny bono

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,559
playing that. Part, Okay but here's the THING i mentioned

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01:01:33,559 --> 01:01:36,639
THAT i texted you this. Week Troy donahue gets this

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01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:41,119
incredible shout out in a very popular. Song, okay got, It,

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01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,639
yeah let's hear. It look at. Me I'm sandra d From.

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01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:58,480
Greece ask for, You Troy. Donna it's. Incredible keep your

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,400
filthy pause?

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01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,159
Speaker 2: Off, my would you try that.

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01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 3: Crap with a? Net Troy, Donahue ladies And gentlemen makes

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01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:08,159
the reappearance In.

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01:02:08,199 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: Greece, okay we can't leave out sterling. Hating he plays

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01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,039
the police Chief captain, McClusky beats the crap out Of Michael,

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01:02:15,199 --> 01:02:16,519
yeah and then gets the press.

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01:02:16,679 --> 01:02:18,039
Speaker 3: Jaw oh my best death.

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01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 2: Scene, wow it was such a good that's such a

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01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,760
good death. Scene he had been in a lot of

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01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,239
those old movies as, well Including Doctor strangelove With Peter.

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01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,639
Speaker 3: Sellers he's the guy who gets shot in the. Throat

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01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,719
let's dive into that scene for just a. Second, okay,

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01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,679
well one more, actor one, more gotta throw it again

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01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,920
To David wright And Deaf dave as you may know.

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01:02:38,039 --> 01:02:39,639
Him we can't forget Av.

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01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 9: Godada Plays tesco a very important part of the, movie

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01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,000
so let's not forget.

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01:02:55,039 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 3: Him he ends up On Barney miller And Beastie boy.

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01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:04,159
Albums the guy who Plays Mo GREEN i think Was

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01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,519
joe's dad On facts Of.

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01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:10,119
Speaker 2: Life yeah that's, Right, yeah that's, Right Alex, Rocco Alex,

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01:03:10,199 --> 01:03:11,159
Roco Mo Green.

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01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:17,199
Speaker 3: GREEN i didn't ask his. Business. Okay this week Our

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01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:21,599
Shirley showcase is The Vintage Video. Pod they go through

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01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,000
every movie year by. Year it's really awesome for a

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01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:27,840
complete dist like. Me and they just went through what

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01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,679
we consider the greatest two weeks in eighties movie, history

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01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,960
that middle part Of june of nineteen eighty, one.

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01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,039
Speaker 2: Greatest two weeks in movie. HISTORY i, mean there's so

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01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,960
many great movies that came out in that two week. Period,

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01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:41,519
Yeah raiders of The Lost, Stark you've Got superman, Two

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01:03:42,119 --> 01:03:43,719
you've got The Great muppet.

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01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,559
Speaker 3: Cap Muppet caper, stripes there's just a simile.

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01:03:46,679 --> 01:03:49,719
Speaker 2: RUN i, mean icons all coming out in two.

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01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 3: Weeks their Host patrick wide in and here's what he

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had to say About, Godfather Godfather, too And.

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Speaker 8: Goodfellas, hey this Is patrick O'Reilly from The Vintage Video,

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01:03:57,559 --> 01:03:59,880
podcast And i'm here for a three way comparison Of,

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01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:03,599
Oddfather Godfather, too And. Goodfellas this is a tough. One

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01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,719
coppola And scorsese are obviously masters of the crime family,

1204
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,039
genre so ultimately it's going to come down to personal.

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01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:12,039
TASTE i think if it were simply A Kapalis scorsese,

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01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:14,800
CONTEST i Think scorsese has been winning that handily by

1207
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:19,039
consistently producing celebrated. Works coppola is obviously still, working gearing

1208
01:04:19,079 --> 01:04:22,440
up now to self produce the long Gestating, megalopolis presumably

1209
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,199
through his Own American zootrope, label but outside of his,

1210
01:04:25,239 --> 01:04:26,800
WINERY i think you'd have to go back to the

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01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,079
early eighties for the Last kappola film to earn near universal,

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01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:33,159
praise Where scorsese is an annual front row seat holder

1213
01:04:33,199 --> 01:04:36,639
at The. Oscars, obviously all three films are technically, adaptations

1214
01:04:36,679 --> 01:04:39,039
With godfather's one and two coming from a Single Mario

1215
01:04:39,079 --> 01:04:42,239
puzo novel And goodfellas coming From Nicholas Peleggi's Wise, Guy

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BUT i think the successes of all three films is

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01:04:44,679 --> 01:04:47,039
as much owed to the directors as the source, material

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Especially Godfather, too which is widely acclaimed as the best

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01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,639
installment of the, trilogy but which is sort of cobbled

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01:04:52,679 --> 01:04:55,480
together from unused parts of the First godfather, novel since

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01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,559
the second, book The, sicilian wouldn't be published until nineteen eighty.

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01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:02,679
Four another difference between the franchises is That goodfellas basically

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01:05:02,679 --> 01:05:06,159
takes place in a localized area like this several blocks

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01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:08,519
of the, city where the events of The godfather film

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01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:12,639
span the entire us and sometimes. INTERNATIONALLY i Love, goodfellas

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01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,920
And i've rewatched it many, times but not nearly as

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many times AS i find myself coming back to The,

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01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,119
godfathers and specifically The First, godfather WHICH i THINK i

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01:05:20,159 --> 01:05:22,920
had memorized for a. Time the production is so steeped

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01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,760
in and lower that it's obviously inspired dueling behind the scenes

1231
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,280
fictionalizations in the form of The Paramount plus Series The

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01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,320
offer And Barry levinson's upcoming Film francis and The, godfather

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01:05:32,599 --> 01:05:35,000
WHERE i Think Jake gillenhall is supposed to be Playing Robert,

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01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:37,480
evans which sounds worth the price of admission to. Me

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01:05:38,119 --> 01:05:39,880
forced a gunpoint to choose a, FAVORITE i THINK i

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01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,079
land against the grain on the First godfather, film if

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01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:45,480
only because of the simplicity of the plot and just

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01:05:45,559 --> 01:05:49,119
the magic of those. Performances it's a perfectly crafted. Story

1239
01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:52,199
it's a relatable family in. Crisis it, also for better or,

1240
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:55,199
worse really humanized the real life people behind the whole mafia,

1241
01:05:55,239 --> 01:05:59,960
mythology although the filmmaker's famously avoided specifically mentioning the. Mafia

1242
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,280
we also kill so many characters in that first installment

1243
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,239
that seem indispensable to the, recipe but clearly the second

1244
01:06:05,239 --> 01:06:08,039
film did well without. Them but purely, NOSTALGICALLY i don't

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01:06:08,039 --> 01:06:10,320
think anything beats the first few notes Of nino Rootis

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01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,199
godfather waltz over the paramount. Logo you just settle in

1247
01:06:13,199 --> 01:06:15,599
and you're ready for the. MOVIE i Think godfather one

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01:06:15,679 --> 01:06:17,079
is still the first of the three That i'd be

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01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:18,920
tempted to put on right, now and it's the ONE

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01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,920
i expect to rewatch the most moving.

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Speaker 2: Forward, well that was, Awesome like that was, intimidating. Awesome

1252
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,719
that was so. Good so what's the name of this podcast?

1253
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,599
Speaker 3: Again Vintage Video. Pod i'm subscribing to that.

1254
01:06:30,639 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 2: PODCAST i want to listen to what this guy has

1255
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,159
to say about every single movie from nineteen eighty.

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01:06:35,199 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 3: One, yeah they do a really good, job really professionally.

1257
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,320
Done voices are, great very. Entertaining definitely want to check them.

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01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:41,719
Out thank.

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01:06:41,719 --> 01:06:43,639
Speaker 2: You patrick very much for doing that for.

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01:06:43,719 --> 01:06:44,559
Speaker 3: Us great.

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01:06:44,639 --> 01:06:47,679
Speaker 2: Take we will give you our take on our next

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01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,519
episode next, week so be sure and come back next.

1263
01:06:51,519 --> 01:06:56,079
Week we're going to finish Up, Godfather Godfather Part, two And,

1264
01:06:56,159 --> 01:06:59,360
goodfellas and we will give you our final judgment between

1265
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:00,000
those three movies.

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01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 3: Exactly leave the, gun take The, canoli hit subscribe on

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01:07:04,039 --> 01:07:10,360
your podcast. App see you next, Week bye, guys