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<v Speaker 1>It's nice, I'm telling you easy. Boston's Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back everybody, Thanks Dan Watkins. Joining me

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<v Speaker 2>now is Boston Harold columnist Joe Battenfeld. Joe, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you've ever been called an evil genius.

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<v Speaker 3>I have actually not a genius, but evil.

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<v Speaker 4>No no, no, no, no, no you.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't you explain generally the term for those who

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<v Speaker 2>do not understand what the term October surprise is? And

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm going to ask you about your column today,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think laid out an evil ultimately October surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's an October surprise in the political context?

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<v Speaker 3>In the political world, an October surprise is a unexpected event.

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<v Speaker 3>At some times is kind of expected, but usually it's

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<v Speaker 3>an unexpected event that happens in October weeks before the

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<v Speaker 3>election that can turn around an election or influence the election,

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<v Speaker 3>like somebody declaring a war maybe or ending a war

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<v Speaker 3>the near the election, or choosing a different you know,

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<v Speaker 3>vice presidential nominee, or some kind of turn of events

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<v Speaker 3>that influences the election. The unexpected turn of events.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you have come up with the ultimate October surprise,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's evil genius to its core. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>that this is not something you're necessarily advocating, but.

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<v Speaker 4>I do think it's something that do you think the

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats would actually contemplate doing this?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, after what they did to Joe Biden the

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<v Speaker 3>first time, I think, yeah, I think they would. I

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<v Speaker 3>think they you know, they got him off the ticket,

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<v Speaker 3>and now you know it's it's entirely possible that they

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<v Speaker 3>want him to leave the White House before the election starts.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me let me let me lay this scenario out,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you can because it's your column. I you

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, but I get you get full credit.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I had just done this before and beat

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<v Speaker 2>you to it, but you know you're brilliant and so okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's assume. Oh, I don't know, sometime in early October,

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<v Speaker 2>the polls start to shift, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the battleground states now look like they're no

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<v Speaker 2>longer battleground states. And the Trump for whatever reason, has

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<v Speaker 2>started to make some advances and he might he's certainly

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<v Speaker 2>is going to win. You know, two or three of

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<v Speaker 2>these states they're off the board, and now it looks

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<v Speaker 2>as if Pennsylvania. Matter of fact, I think over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a poll that showed him doing pretty well

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<v Speaker 2>in Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 3>New York Times reahly.

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<v Speaker 4>Well in Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what happens in that situation? All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>the I don't know, you know, the whole Harris campaign

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<v Speaker 2>has maybe started to implode. Maybe somebody are looking at

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<v Speaker 2>some of the statements that she made back in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen and twenty nineteen, which is very inconsistent with what

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<v Speaker 2>her positions are, And all of a sudden, the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>are worried. In a matter of fact, they're almost convinced

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<v Speaker 2>that somehow, some way, Trump is going to win.

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<v Speaker 4>What card could they play? You laid it out today

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<v Speaker 4>brilliantly in the Herald. What card could they play?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>The card they could play is convincing somehow President Biden

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<v Speaker 3>to step down from the Whitehouse entirely and elevate Colin

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<v Speaker 3>Harris to the presidency. Very simply, it's going It would

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<v Speaker 3>take obviously convincing Joe Biden to do it somehow, but

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<v Speaker 3>he did. He was convinced or pressured enough to quit

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<v Speaker 3>the race. So one more step, it's just one more step,

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<v Speaker 3>and convincing him to leave the White House entirely into

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris's hands.

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<v Speaker 2>So what would be the advantage to Kamala Harris. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>she would become the president maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she would be the de facto incumbent, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she could do a lot of things. Obviously, there's some

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<v Speaker 3>risk to it because she is in charge, and she

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<v Speaker 3>would be saddled with any negative thing that happens. But

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<v Speaker 3>they could engineer it so that she announces programs, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>jobs programs, you know, something to do with the economy.

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<v Speaker 3>I would think would be would be the big thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I would also think that that just

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<v Speaker 2>having the name president, I mean, everybody assumes that the

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<v Speaker 2>next president, whoever it is, will be inaugurated next January

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<v Speaker 2>after the election, and that president would become the forty

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<v Speaker 2>seventh president of the United States. But if all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden she's inaugurated, she's sworn in there generally is

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<v Speaker 2>is an instinct of this country to rally around the president,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly someone who's getting his or her legs, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, from underneath, you know, getting under them. And

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<v Speaker 2>so there would be I think kind of a surgeon

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<v Speaker 2>patriotism of you know, you know, let's give her a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>She's the president. I think it would be brilliant. What

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<v Speaker 2>about if they said that Joe Biden looked Joe, you

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<v Speaker 2>were very clear that you, under no circumstances would pardon

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<v Speaker 2>or commute your son Hunter. And you know that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be difficult for you to not do, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly if he's looking at a jail sentence and there

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<v Speaker 2>will be some sentences imposed on him.

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<v Speaker 4>After the election.

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<v Speaker 2>We think that if you were to step aside, we

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<v Speaker 2>might be able to convince your vice president in your

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<v Speaker 2>stead to partner your son and kind of wrap this

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<v Speaker 2>all up and allow you to ride off and at

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<v Speaker 2>the sun set having kept your word, but making but

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<v Speaker 2>helping guarantee that your son doesn't spend any time in prison.

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<v Speaker 3>An inducement, it definitely could. I mean, Joe Biden has

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<v Speaker 3>said many times how much he loves his son and

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<v Speaker 3>cares about his son, and there's you know, obviously no

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<v Speaker 3>father wants to see a son go to jail, and

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<v Speaker 3>this would be a way to do it so that

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<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't have to take responsibility for the pardon, and

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<v Speaker 3>she would do it and take all the flack, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>flack there was for it, and I don't think there

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<v Speaker 3>would be too much flack among you know, the Democrats,

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<v Speaker 3>that's for sure. And it might actually energize Democrats. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, just all the fan fare of

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<v Speaker 3>going into becoming president, making history, all those things I

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<v Speaker 3>think play into You know, you can go to Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden and say, look, you know you have to do

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<v Speaker 3>this for the good of your country. Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 3>going to win this election unless you do this. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what would he say? You might say, yes, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>You make a powerful case on it. Let me do this, Joe.

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<v Speaker 4>I hear you got the kiddles in the background making

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<v Speaker 4>some noise there.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my cat, actually your cat.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see the story in the New York Times today,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, about the cat that a family took

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<v Speaker 2>the cat on a trip to guess was like the

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<v Speaker 2>Grand Canyon somewhere like that, and somehow the cat ran away.

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<v Speaker 2>This was in June, and the cat was found back

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<v Speaker 2>and they were from California, back in California a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks ago, not.

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<v Speaker 4>Like in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>But somehow this cat transported himself from I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>was Yellowstone, which is pretty close to the Grand Canyon.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight hundred miles.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, can you I did not see that, nont.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an article, a little blurb in the Globe today

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<v Speaker 2>but also in the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 4>Well let me do this. Let's see if people think.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that what you have posited today is

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<v Speaker 2>extremely possible. And I don't want to say it's probable yet,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it's great that you put it out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and you put it out in printed form, because if

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<v Speaker 2>this were to happen, I would hope that the network

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<v Speaker 2>reporters and the political analysts who would never have suggested

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<v Speaker 2>something as evil as they.

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<v Speaker 4>Will bet on your door say this is the guy

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<v Speaker 4>that talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Not in October, he talked about it on September twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fourth in his column. So let me see if people

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk to a Boston Herald columnist Joe Battenfeld

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<v Speaker 2>six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty six

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<v Speaker 4>Joe will stick with us until ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want to tell him, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're right, or if you want to tell him you

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<v Speaker 2>think he's wrong, this is the time to go he'll

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<v Speaker 2>be here with us for about fifteen more minutes. My

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<v Speaker 2>name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside after Joe leaves. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can weigh in on it as well. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's brilliant. I think if the Democrats did this, they

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<v Speaker 2>would win the election.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that they will have the guts to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, but do I think they might have to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. I think I think Joel might be onto something.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back on Night Side right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice thanks to WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, Joe Battenfeld Batton down the hatches. Here they come.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see what they.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's go to Bob in Somerville. Hey, Bob, you're

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<v Speaker 2>with Joe Battenfell to the Boston Globe. He is an

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<v Speaker 2>ill genius. What do you think of this idea?

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<v Speaker 5>So? Are you a wind at r of case trying

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<v Speaker 5>to get back on the New York ballot today? No,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not Okay. He's trying to put his name back

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<v Speaker 5>on the ballot in New York, and I'm wondering if

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<v Speaker 5>he if he's if he's thinking like this, He's only

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<v Speaker 5>suspended his campaign, which means he can come back at it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know that, and maybe we'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they had the meeting tonight at eight o'clock. They

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<v Speaker 5>have a Tuesday night meeting across the country every night,

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<v Speaker 5>and apparently the I'm one of the ones who wants

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<v Speaker 5>to go with Trump from Kennedy. Okay, but apparently only

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<v Speaker 5>there's about seventy to eighty percent in Massachusetts Kennedy people

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<v Speaker 5>that don't want to go with Trump. And I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know about the other states, but by know about Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, well, how many can it? Looks?

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I got Joe Badenfeld here, and I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stick with what he's talking about and we

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<v Speaker 2>can talk about I don't know how many people in

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts were willing to vote for Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 4>Win Trump was on the ballot. Do you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I yeah, but I mean, well, do you

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<v Speaker 5>think this will help Harris by being the president? Harris?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, I I don't think it will. Well, again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little confused if you're telling me that RFK

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<v Speaker 2>wants his name back on the ballot in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Okay, might that help Trump with.

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<v Speaker 5>The Supreme Court there for an emergency hearing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, I'm look, you're you're, you're, you're off topic,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fine.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, he's literally so I don't know, okay, which is literally.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to tell you that I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that r f K had him. I think r FK

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<v Speaker 2>fought to get himself off the ballot.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct. And now if he's off Massachusetts ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what are you talking to? Massachusetts and New York?

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<v Speaker 2>Which one you want to talk?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm saying he's off certain the states. He's

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<v Speaker 5>off of Massachusetts officially, according to Bill Gallvin. Well, there's

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<v Speaker 5>six people on the presidential let me do this.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's pick this up some other night. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>I do appreciate the the questions. Okay, thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you want to weigh in on that, Joe, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I believe r FK Junior has said that he

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<v Speaker 2>Nor is Massachusetts, so I don't know. Again, Bob was

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<v Speaker 2>go to Paul in Plymouth. Paul, bring us back to

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<v Speaker 2>the issue at hand. Do you think that the Democrats,

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<v Speaker 2>in a moment of desperation would actually do what Joe

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<v Speaker 7>Well, they might do that, Dan, but you had mentioned,

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<v Speaker 5>And my only.

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<v Speaker 7>All I could think of is they would have to

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<v Speaker 7>consider President Ford pardoning President Nixon. That didn't work out

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<v Speaker 2>All I Well, the Ford situation was a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 2>Ford pardon Nixon very quickly. Nixon resigned on August eighth,

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<v Speaker 2>was disappointed that Ford would do that. I was a

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<v Speaker 2>that Nixon should have stood trial for crimes that he

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<v Speaker 2>was able to avoid being impeached over. However, well, however,

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<v Speaker 2>I now look at it quite differently, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>Ford did actually what the right was the right thing

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<v Speaker 2>for the country, Okay in my opinion, But in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of Biden, every case is different. And Joe, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>to Biden to be able to say, mister President, you

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<v Speaker 2>said no pardon. You're not going to pardon your son

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't allow help president. You know Vice President Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>she's willing to pardon your son. I could see that scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think, Joe, Yeah, that would be a

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<v Speaker 3>huge inducement for him to step down. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>talked about his son constantly, you know how much she

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<v Speaker 3>huge inducement for for Joe Biden. For Kamala Harris to say, look, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm willing to do it. I'm willing to take the

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<v Speaker 3>from jail. That would that. I think you're you're onto something, Dan, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just that he has said he would

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if if Trump were to win, now, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know I Trump. I think that Trump, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he might say, Okay, let's pardon Hunter Biden. And that

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<v Speaker 2>effort to reunite the country. I don't know, but I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't trust that if I was Joe Biden. What what's

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<v Speaker 2>your thought on that? Paul, Let's come to the to

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<v Speaker 2>the day that we're dealing with now. It didn't work

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<v Speaker 2>out well for Ford. You're right, but also the Republicans

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<v Speaker 4>And I think, I don't know, I just think this

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<v Speaker 7>No, I think the country has a has a long

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<v Speaker 7>memory and people are just going to think back and say, well,

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<v Speaker 7>look what you know, this is what Jerry Ford did

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<v Speaker 7>but they say, this is what Jerry Nick and.

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<v Speaker 4>What he did for Richard. Vote accordingly. But he did,

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<v Speaker 2>He did a favor for Richard Nixon. And you're right

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<v Speaker 2>it might have cost him some votes in nineteen seventy six,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was upset about it, and they called I

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, if you watch Richard Nixon, some of

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that the state of the state of

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<v Speaker 2>resignation and impeachment is not no matter how many years,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna, in my opinion, help him.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh. Thanks, thanks for getting us back on topic, Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Luciana in Pennsylvania here and see

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<v Speaker 2>who can wrap it up here. Louciano, thank you for

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<v Speaker 8>Let's keep it real, Dan, I was born in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 8>Joe Biden does not trust Pamela Harris, does not trust

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<v Speaker 8>and Obama. No, he's not gonna jeopardize his son going

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<v Speaker 8>Modern Democratic Party is probably what the mister Gavin said.

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<v Speaker 8>He's going to try to pull that on Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 8>But Joe Biden has his only son. He's not gonna

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<v Speaker 8>He's gonna say the hell with the help with the people,

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<v Speaker 8>what they think about me. I'm gonna partner my son.

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<v Speaker 8>He's my last son. My last son died. And no,

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<v Speaker 2>Louiano, you think He's going to then go back if

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<v Speaker 2>if Trump is elected, that he's going to go back

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<v Speaker 2>on his word and either commute Hunter Biden's sentence, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is, or pardon him. You think that he's going

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<v Speaker 2>I told you I wouldn't do it, but I'm going.

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<v Speaker 8>To do it extremely easy. Blood a stick in the water.

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<v Speaker 8>He has to live with himself. He doesn't compare to

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<v Speaker 8>his son going to jail and my and the citizens

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<v Speaker 8>of America is no comparison. It's not comparing a penny

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you you made a very strong argument, as you

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks Luciano. I appreciate your goal. Joe good night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, I mean I don't. I don't totally trust

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden either when he says he's not going to

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<v Speaker 3>pardon his son. I wouldn't totally trust that.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, But I think what Luciana was saying was

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<v Speaker 2>that Joe Biden is not would not trust them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's something to that. I mean, they don't. It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not sure how much he's remembering right now

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<v Speaker 2>to you. I hate to be mean, but hey, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>as always, thanks man, I'm really frea call him in

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<v Speaker 2>the I don't know that it's been written about anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>And we'll if the rumors start trickling out soon, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think I think you beat everybody on it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that again, if the race all of

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<v Speaker 2>this becomes a greater possibility because yeah, I agree, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the Democrats really don't like Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't trust him. There's no sort of collegiality that

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<v Speaker 2>like Trump, and I could see this conceivable.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're desperate. They're desperate. They'll do anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and and and we'll see, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask people to fill up the lines

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<v Speaker 2>it's a great question. It's a great question. Your post, Thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe is always You're the best. Thanks man, Talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you soon. Joe Batten felt great columnists for the Boston Herald.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks Joe. Okay, when we come back, I want to

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<v Speaker 4>hear from you. It's you and me. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Joe Battenfeld's peace in the Herald today.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's very credible. I'm not going to bet

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<v Speaker 2>on it with you, but I could see the Democrats saying, look,

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<v Speaker 2>this is too important an election for them to lose,

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<v Speaker 2>for us, for the Democrats to lose, and that we

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<v Speaker 2>are not only we need to elect the vice president,

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<v Speaker 2>but we need to make sure that Donald Trump isn't elected.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to hear from you. Six one, seven, two, five,

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<v Speaker 4>My name is Danry. This is Night Side looking by

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<v Speaker 2>If you like politics, I'd love to talk about this

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<v Speaker 2>for a while, okay, But the only way I can

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it is if you want to express an opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what this show is all about. Express your opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's light those phone lines up. Could the Democrats at

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<v Speaker 2>the last minute, meaning October fifteenth or so, convinced Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden that it's in the interest of the Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 2>and the country to help Kamala Harris and give her

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<v Speaker 2>so she would be the incumbent president beginning on October

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<v Speaker 2>twentieth and would serve out his term. But that would

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<v Speaker 2>That's that that thought, I'm guarant I guarantee you has

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<v Speaker 4>Look, politics all is fear, in love, war and politics.

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<v Speaker 4>Back on Nightside after this.

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<v Speaker 5>It's Nightside with.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, Dan Watkins, thank you very much. We are

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<v Speaker 4>talking politics.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, I know a lot of you out there say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>October surprise. I think all of you know that every candidate,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly a presidential candidate, the one thing that they fear most.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've run for this office for two years, three years,

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<v Speaker 2>So the theory that Joe Batten fell from The Herald

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<v Speaker 2>election was slipping away from Kamala Harris, that maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they would turn around at some point and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>President Biden, you have one other sacrifice you need to make,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is to resign so that the vice president

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<v Speaker 2>can become president and she can run as an incumbent.

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<v Speaker 4>Now there's only a couple of weeks left in the election.

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<v Speaker 4>She'll be inaugurated, she will be the forty seventh president

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<v Speaker 4>of the United States. She will serve out.

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<v Speaker 2>Your term, but hopefully she'll be real in effect re elected.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be the pisch the Democrats would make. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think the Democrats would resort to that?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where you come in. It's a mystery. No one

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<v Speaker 2>knows the answer. For sure, I'd love to know what

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<v Speaker 2>you think the process and my question, my second question

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<v Speaker 2>is do you think there are some Democratic leaders politicians,

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<v Speaker 2>not elected people, but the people behind the scenes who

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<v Speaker 2>have at least thought about this as a possibility. Warren

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<v Speaker 2>in Fall River, Warren, thanks for checking in. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think are we in never never Land here.

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<v Speaker 9>Or do you think, yeah, we've been to never never

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<v Speaker 9>Land for a while.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't put anything past Democrats at all. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>look at what they have tried to do to Trump

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<v Speaker 9>so far, with all the impeachments, with all these court

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<v Speaker 9>cases that seem that have a political fin to them,

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<v Speaker 9>the assassination attempts. Possibly, I mean, I'm not well, definitely,

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<v Speaker 9>I want.

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<v Speaker 2>To hold you there for a second, okay, because I

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<v Speaker 2>know I think what you're trying to say. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think the Democrats can be blamed. I think these

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<v Speaker 2>are two looney tunes. I think that the kid in

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania and the guy in Florida are truly looney tunes.

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<v Speaker 2>So do I think that the language that's been used

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<v Speaker 2>towards Trump has maybe contributed to the atmospherics. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>call somebody a fascist and the next Hitler and things

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<v Speaker 2>like that, But I kind of imagine that any legitimate

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat would wish that on anyone.

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<v Speaker 9>No, but it's just the fact that they have tried

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<v Speaker 9>everything in the kitchen sink to try to try to

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<v Speaker 9>get this guy out.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't think they like him. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>think they see him.

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, I'm not saying I'm not saying definitely that

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<v Speaker 9>it is, but I can't really rule it out either.

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<v Speaker 4>So no, no, we'll all, I mean, time will tell all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, is we woke up, Well, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>wake up because it was Sunday. The was it Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty first of July. I forget which dated was

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<v Speaker 2>President former President Trump had been shot at on July thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, unlucky day or a lucky day that he survived. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the fault not the next day, but a

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<v Speaker 2>week from the next day. All of a sudden, at

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<v Speaker 2>two o'clock in the afternoon, it came out that Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden had decided to drop out of the race.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just done. Now. Biden had said, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>saying in, I'm staying in.

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<v Speaker 2>And God if God Almighty came down and told me, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>God Almighty that came down and told him, because he got.

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<v Speaker 9>Out, and yeah, you know, I mean you know, so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>I'll we tracked the assassination attempts. Yeah, they have tried everything.

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<v Speaker 9>They've tried everything in the kitchen sink to try to

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<v Speaker 9>get Trump. And if you if you were back to

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<v Speaker 9>the to the last election, all right, anyone that was

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<v Speaker 9>wearing Trump gear, you know, they were in fear of

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<v Speaker 9>getting attacked.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Well, there's too much of that, Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 9>Too much of that. And so I've never seen so

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<v Speaker 9>much hatred towards one person. Then the Democrats towards Trump,

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<v Speaker 9>and well, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I think I'm not no, no, no, but I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you if I can just say this, he is not

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<v Speaker 2>a traditional Republican, Okay. And I think that the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>who are in the business of getting elected are frustrated

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<v Speaker 2>that this guy came out of nowhere and beat Hillary

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<v Speaker 2>Clinton despite all of the crazy stuff he had said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Billy Bush tape, and he still won.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the Democrats look at him and say,

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<v Speaker 4>how is that possible? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that they don't respect him in any way,

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<v Speaker 2>shape or form.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, but I think it is possible. The only reason

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<v Speaker 9>why it is possible is because of his four years,

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<v Speaker 9>the economy was good, and we had no wars, and

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<v Speaker 9>the border was getting under control. And those are things

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<v Speaker 9>that are very important to the voter.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, and that is and.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that he was the only thing that he well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what else. Okay, he's indefatigable. You see

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<v Speaker 2>him everywhere. He's he he's out there. He outworked Hillary

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<v Speaker 2>Clinton in twenty sixteen. And again I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>think that he was he was so disliked. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think Joe Biden was elected in twenty twenty. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that Donald Trump was unelected, meaning I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people went to the polls and said, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to get him out of here. Now, the tough years

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<v Speaker 2>we've had with Biden, Harris has given him an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>a real opportunity to win in November. And that's why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying it's possible at least, and Joe Battenfell is

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<v Speaker 2>saying that it's possible. This could be the ultimate October surprise.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh.

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<v Speaker 9>Absolutely, But I was going to say with Biden, I

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<v Speaker 9>think that decision was made right after New Hampshire in

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<v Speaker 9>the last election. Oh, he during the primaries. I think that,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, the decision to elect Biden came fourth right after.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, in twenty twenty you're talking about, right, Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely right. Look, he finished what fourth or fifth in

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<v Speaker 2>New Hampshire. He went to South Carolina, where Jim Clybourne

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<v Speaker 2>was his best advocate. He went South Carolina, and if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not mistaken, like one or two nights later, you.

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<v Speaker 9>Had everyone who to jed right.

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Kloba har from Minnesota. I think they showed up

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<v Speaker 2>and it was all. It was all over. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>seen a primary like that, and of course this time

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of went the other way. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>there are powerful people within the Democratic Party who decide.

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<v Speaker 2>They made a decision and they said, look, the best

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<v Speaker 2>guy to run against. They do all this stuff, they

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<v Speaker 2>test stuff, they have these focus groups, and they probably

543
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<v Speaker 2>said the best guy in twenty twenty to beat Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is Uncle Joe, you know, a guy who everybody knows,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody dislikes. And they figured it out. And now they're

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<v Speaker 2>still trying to figure out how do they beat Trump

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<v Speaker 2>this year? They thought to do it was to get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of Biden. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>Warren loved to call man. Thank you so much. I

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<v Speaker 4>really appreciated it.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you, no problem, good.

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<v Speaker 4>Night, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So now it's your turn. The only lines that are

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<v Speaker 2>open are six one, seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got Frank, John and Greg they're coming up and

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<v Speaker 2>we've got room for you. Six one seven, six one seven,

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<v Speaker 2>nine three one ten thirty. Those are the two lines

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<v Speaker 2>that are open. We're going to talk about this. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to talk about it for the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>night because I guarantee you that in there no longer

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<v Speaker 2>smoke filled rooms, but in the rooms where Democratic activists

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<v Speaker 2>and are working right now, they are looking at every possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they think that Vice President Harris can win,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be fine. But nobody wants to be responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for Donald Trump. If you're a Democratic leader for Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump winning over Vice President Harris, and she may need

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<v Speaker 2>a little help in the next in the next couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks, I'm telling you, Joe Battenfeld's column is not

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<v Speaker 2>far from reality.

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<v Speaker 4>You can agree of this, Let's have at it back

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<v Speaker 4>after this on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on w b Z News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>In other word, just as a bit of a heads up,

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday night, we will have an authorized yet unauthorized biographer

576
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<v Speaker 2>of Alan Derschwitz Legal gladiator Solomon Schmidt, an amazing author.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll introduce you to him at ten o'clock on Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 2>And also in terms of what's upcoming on Nightside, we

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<v Speaker 2>will carry in its entirety the vice presidential debate between J. D.

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<v Speaker 2>Vince and Tim Waltz next Tuesday at nine o'clock. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go next to my friend Frank in Northbridge.

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<v Speaker 4>Frank, you're next on Nightside. Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi.

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<v Speaker 10>I listened to.

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<v Speaker 11>Your interview with the guy from the Herald, and I, yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>I just didn't that's it seems like such a stretch

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<v Speaker 11>and so unnecessary.

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<v Speaker 12>I don't see that. But I do agree that that

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<v Speaker 12>there does seem to be a feeling that there's going

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<v Speaker 12>to be something. In fact, I was just listening to

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<v Speaker 12>an interview with Carville and he was saying that he

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<v Speaker 12>has this feeling, you know, with the way everything's gone

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<v Speaker 12>so far, that there's one more surprise to come along.

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<v Speaker 12>And I have that feeling too, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 12>it's way bigger than what he what your guess was suggesting, Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 12>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of imagine a bigger surprise. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 2>if all of a sudden well, yeah, I mean, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be probably okay, give me a surprise in

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<v Speaker 2>your opinion, that might be bigger than that.

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<v Speaker 13>I'd be curious if if, say, for example, behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 13>is this thing's playing out, and you know, she's right now,

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<v Speaker 13>she's at forty nine percent, he's had forty four, and

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<v Speaker 13>she's her lead is growing, and that little.

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<v Speaker 2>In that case, in that case, she's gonna she's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>breathe the victory.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>What I'm saying though, in looking at poles like that

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<v Speaker 10>and seeing the way this whole thing is going, I

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<v Speaker 10>wouldn't be at all surprised if behind the scenes he's

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<v Speaker 10>in the process of negotiating dropping out, provided they can

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<v Speaker 10>guarantee that these cases against him are going to go away.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, come on, what are you smoking tonight, Frank? That's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>You think that Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 10>It would be it would be a big surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh yeah, I think that. Yeah, Frank, I got

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you something. I don't like to say, you're

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<v Speaker 2>being ridiculous, But it was like someone said to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not sure if it was you. Oh, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if Donald Trump will show up at the debate. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is in it to win it, whether you

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<v Speaker 2>like him or not. Don't underestimate him, Frank.

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<v Speaker 10>If he's in it to win it to avoid prison,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm saying. So what I'm saying is that he can

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<v Speaker 10>be guaranteed that that's off the table, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, Frank, do me a favor.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you're smoking, you know, no layoff, lay off, because

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<v Speaker 2>there's not.

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<v Speaker 5>Here.

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<v Speaker 4>Frank.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what I want to If Donald Trump drops out

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<v Speaker 2>between now an election day, okay, I want you to

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<v Speaker 2>call me back, and I know you will. I know

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<v Speaker 2>you will, and I will apologize to you profusely, and

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<v Speaker 2>I will identify you as the guy who predicted that

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump was gonna walk out. Now they're gonna gonna

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<v Speaker 2>drop out now, Frank. If he doesn't drop out, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if he doesn't drop out, are you gonna call me

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<v Speaker 2>back and say, Dan, I was wrong?

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<v Speaker 4>Of course not.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I'm saying that.

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<v Speaker 12>Something big when they say something big, But you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have Frank, I'm not gonna waste my time with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you that I will be more than happy

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<v Speaker 2>to give you all the credit in the world. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't have it both ways, Frank, So please

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<v Speaker 2>tell me that when Donald Trump doesn't drop out, you

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<v Speaker 2>will call me back and say, Dan, you were right.

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<v Speaker 2>My idea and my proposal was just flat silly. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you bring yourself to say that?

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<v Speaker 4>Or no? Probably not. Have a great night, John and

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<v Speaker 4>Needham go ahead, John next on nightside.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh hey, Dave, Dan, I'm sorry, Dan, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Are you Jim or John? Who are you Jim

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<v Speaker 4>or John?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm John?

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<v Speaker 4>Good John, Well, I'm Dan. Now we got that squared away.

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<v Speaker 4>What's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was. My mind was seeking day anyway. No,

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<v Speaker 6>I just yeah, no, I'm it's I know this, I

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<v Speaker 6>just need it's just not quite on topic. But you

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<v Speaker 6>were talking about Jimmy Carter earlier, and you might be awareness,

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<v Speaker 6>but I guess they just wanted to make her mind

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<v Speaker 6>at everyone. Exactly one week from the day he will

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<v Speaker 6>be turning one hundred years old.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot that he's still in hospice. He's still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>God love him. One of the most decent politicians who

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't met. I spent some time with him in

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<v Speaker 2>New Hampshire, in Massachusetts, in Rhode Island, and also at

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<v Speaker 2>his home in Plains, Georgia. A very decent human being,

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<v Speaker 2>not the greatest president in history, but a very decent

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<v Speaker 2>human being.

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<v Speaker 6>Well maybe not, but yeah, I mean he did so

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<v Speaker 6>much after his presidency with tabitat and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, that's what a decent human being. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>makes him a decent human being. You know his record.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he inherited, by the way, some difficult circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously our military was in disrepair, the hostage crisis that occurred. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so he was victimized a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>He was not. He did not have a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>good luck. But a very decent human being.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, John, Look, John, thank you up against I

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have taken you a bit quickly, but I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you wanted to make that point, and you

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<v Speaker 2>made it well, and so we'll have to acknowledge that.

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<v Speaker 6>Next week he'll be the oldest living president ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I think he'll also be the only president

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<v Speaker 2>to reach the century mark.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no other president that he even came close in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion. Thank you, John, Thank you very much. Talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you soon. Than's again, have a great night. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to stick with this into the next hour light.

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<v Speaker 2>These phone lines up. I am somewhat surprised that this

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<v Speaker 2>is not a topic that people are rising to. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it is a legitimate possibility. Unlike Frank, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>positing something that is in never never Land. This is

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<v Speaker 2>something that I think conceivably could happen. I will explain

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the news