WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:01.639 Oh bed that are. 2 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:17.480 M h. 3 00:00:31.960 --> 00:00:37.320 Trigger warn this podcast may include explicit content that will 4 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:39.439 take you out of your comfort zone and make you 5 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:40.479 question reality. 6 00:00:40.920 --> 00:01:11.079 Listener's discretion is advised. Hello, and welcome back to the 7 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:19.319 third installment of the Conspira Asylum series. This is Cinemania. 8 00:01:19.480 --> 00:01:22.519 In this episode, we're gonna be as we hinted around 9 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:27.079 in the last two episodes, talking about all of the 10 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:33.319 pop culture and our favorite picks for mental. 11 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:38.200 Illness in cinema and television. Yeah, I mean get we're 12 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:44.200 doing five movies each. Hopefully we don't get carried away 13 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:46.400 talking about each one or this will be a long 14 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:47.400 ass episode. 15 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:49.879 There's so much to say about each. 16 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:54.480 One, though, I guess so if we take twenty minutes 17 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:56.439 on each one, that's going to be a three hour 18 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:58.519 episode and then some Well. 19 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:03.640 I will say that we both recently rewatched American Horror 20 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:07.359 Story Season two asylum. 21 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:09.879 Best season in my opinion, in. 22 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:15.759 Your opinion, man, And we just finished watching Girl Interrupted 23 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:19.000 millionth time for me, second time. 24 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:23.400 For you or third. Maybe I dated a girl in 25 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:25.719 high school who really liked it. I know I watched 26 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:29.080 it once with her, probably maybe another time, but I 27 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:32.919 didn't really remember a lot of it. So we also 28 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:37.159 watched Memento. Oh yeah, so Girl Interrupted as one of 29 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:42.479 Julia's picks, and Memento is one of mine, And they're 30 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:46.400 definitely on the different ends of the style of film 31 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.719 that they are. One of them's really intense and fast paced, 32 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:52.319 and the other ones kind of just a long drawn 33 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:58.199 out tale of your old, typical post teen girl going 34 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:00.639 a little Nutso yeah. 35 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:02.439 But there's more to it, which I will discuss when 36 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:04.639 we get into We didn't really talk about who's gonna 37 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:07.479 go first or what all, but in my notes, I 38 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:11.159 also had that I wanted to kind of touch on 39 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:16.919 the fact that while I was watching American Horror Story, 40 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:24.199 it occurred to me that when mental illness is portrayed 41 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:31.560 in shows and movies, it almost has like this paranormal vibe, 42 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:34.439 doesn't it to you. 43 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:35.879 Like, well, if it occurred to you while you were 44 00:03:35.919 --> 00:03:39.800 watching American Horse Story Asylum, that's because it is. 45 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:43.800 Well, even when Girl Interrupted, it's like it's so outside 46 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:49.840 of it's such a trip to like look through the 47 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:54.919 eyes of a crazy person, you know, And sometimes I 48 00:03:54.919 --> 00:04:00.840 think it really does come from outside of the person themselves. 49 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:06.039 That's the paranormal aspect to me. Like, where does it 50 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:09.719 really come from? You know, people talk about downloads or whatever, 51 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.960 is the person? Is it the person or is it 52 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:18.920 like they've opened themselves up to something. 53 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:24.399 Well, if you look at how I kind of if 54 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:27.839 you look at the world the way I do, I 55 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:29.920 would say that would fit right into it, because I 56 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:38.759 think consciousness is pretty much everything in existence, and our 57 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:43.160 brain or whatever you want to call our system in 58 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:46.920 our body that does the thinking. I mean, there's more 59 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:49.480 and more evidence all the time coming out that it's 60 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:53.279 not just your brain that consciousness comes from. But anyway, 61 00:04:53.439 --> 00:04:57.519 the human body is an antenna that kind of breaks 62 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:01.319 off a piece of that consciousness and isolates it. Now, 63 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:05.959 maybe some people's antennas are a little bent, or maybe 64 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:08.319 they're turned in a different direction that they're picking up 65 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:10.000 some of those extra channels. 66 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:15.879 Right, It's like, why do homeless people how are they 67 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:19.560 able to wear a long sleeve shirt on one hundred 68 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:23.480 degree day? Why are homeless people able to you know 69 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:24.160 what I'm saying. 70 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:25.920 You think that makes them mentally ill? 71 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:30.639 It makes them supernatural? Okay, well, yeah, you pass a 72 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:33.439 homeless person on one hundred degree day wearing a fucking 73 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:36.759 long sleeve shirt in fucking jeans. 74 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:38.959 Yeah, we talk about all the time, and I think 75 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:46.759 that's more to do with living outside and what you're living. No, seriously, 76 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:49.879 I mean there's people that live out in the woods 77 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.920 and they dress like that no matter how hot it is. 78 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:55.600 I mean I know a lot of people like that. 79 00:05:57.439 --> 00:05:59.839 But yeah, it's like you pass a homeless guy's like, 80 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:02.240 how do you have flee sa on right now? 81 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:02.879 Right? 82 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:06.560 It's like they're not even existing on our same plane 83 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:08.240 of reality. 84 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.959 Well, you know that guy that you alluded to in 85 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:15.920 the beginning of episode one, you were talking about the 86 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:19.240 homeless guy, the one that inspired this series because our 87 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:22.480 whole conversation started around him. But he was a guy 88 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:28.879 that was notorious around Ashland, Oregon, and it didn't matter temperature, 89 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.399 time of year, he always had on the same winter coat. 90 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:38.920 And tell me that's not paranormal to you. 91 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:42.920 Supernatural, I think you could condition your body to do 92 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:43.680 a lot. 93 00:06:45.360 --> 00:06:49.199 Especially if you got like a host of demon spirits 94 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:49.800 living in you. 95 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:53.120 All right, So yeah, if do you want to get 96 00:06:53.120 --> 00:07:03.240 into asylum, because it is to me one of those 97 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:06.519 seasons of a show that just kind of throws everything 98 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:10.720 that I'm interested in. I mean, not so much the 99 00:07:10.759 --> 00:07:12.879 alien aspect of the show. And for those of you 100 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:15.279 who haven't seen it, I mean, I do imagine there'll 101 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:16.040 be spoilers. 102 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:21.439 If if anybody listening to this hasn't watched it, you're 103 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:26.839 gonna want to by the end of this conversation. But yeah, spoilers, 104 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:29.480 because I'm gonna we're gonna talk about it all. 105 00:07:31.720 --> 00:07:36.480 There's no God, not God. WoT the things I saw? 106 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:45.759 Monsters a heal. 107 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:48.759 My editor knows. 108 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:52.240 I came here to write a story, and boy do 109 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:55.959 I have a great scoop for him. Now, you gonta 110 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:58.399 get out of here. With or without you, we could 111 00:07:58.399 --> 00:07:59.040 help each other. 112 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:04.240 Here's the thing, Light, You don't belong here. I believe 113 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:08.240 I can help you. Julius, right about you, you're a monster. 114 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:11.000 Why do you look for the speck of sawdust in 115 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:12.000 your brother's eye? 116 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:15.079 Pay no attention to the plank. 117 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:18.639 In your own Devil doesn't reside in him, mister Walker, 118 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:22.480 He lives right here inside those beautiful grains. 119 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:30.040 Just remember, if you look in the face of evil, 120 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:33.679 Evil's gonna look right back at you. 121 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:41.000 Well. The whole thing starts with an alien abduction slash 122 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:44.639 encounter that one of the main characters goes through he's 123 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:47.639 part of an interracial couple in what like the late fifties. 124 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:49.679 When was this supposed to be taking place? 125 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:50.440 Fifties? 126 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:51.679 Oh, it says sixty four. 127 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:52.720 Oh. 128 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:58.000 This character experiences an alien abduction and he gets linked 129 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:04.320 in with this serial killer that's ravaging the what northeast 130 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:09.360 portion of the country, and he's known to skin people 131 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:15.039 live and has some kind of mother infatuation. But it 132 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:17.600 ends up being that should we just say. 133 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:21.360 It, Well, yeah, you can just say it. 134 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:24.960 I mean, one of the head shrinks that works in 135 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:31.559 tandem with the psych word is not I wouldn't say he. 136 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:33.600 I think he comes off as a really good guy 137 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:36.480 for the first few episodes, and then you kind of 138 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:40.279 see he's really wanting this other character to confess to 139 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:43.320 being this person. He even kind of conditions him in 140 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:47.039 a way, and then it just kind of unfolds into 141 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:49.080 a whole bunch of other stuff. The aspects of the 142 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:54.080 asylum in it are really noteworthy. It's just everything we've 143 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:57.679 talked about, and then with some Nazi shit thrown in. 144 00:09:57.639 --> 00:09:59.919 It, right, I was gonna say to it to really 145 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:03.679 encompass everything, they're serial killers. 146 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:08.399 Psychiatrists, a paper clip, fucking guy doing experiments. 147 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:11.759 Fucking Nazi guy doing experiments in the basement. 148 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:14.360 On insane on patient. 149 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:18.279 On insane patience. He actually does a little botomy on someone. 150 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.440 The kind that you were talking, the Walter kind, the 151 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:21.639 Walter method. 152 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:27.320 It's got paranormal, spiritual, there's a demon possession. 153 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:30.279 There is m K. 154 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:34.000 In my opinion, they do this inversion therapy to try 155 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:38.799 to cure gayness, where you have to jack a dude's 156 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:42.240 dick off and then puke in a bucket. I mean 157 00:10:42.639 --> 00:10:44.639 it literally happens first. 158 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:51.039 It's it's almost like, uh, clockwork Orange, which that older 159 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:55.000 eyes open. That would be an honorable mention that we'll 160 00:10:55.000 --> 00:11:01.240 probably at least discuss. But I would say that the 161 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:04.399 way they made her sick while she was watching stuff 162 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:09.799 that she enjoyed and and Clockwork Orange, it was ultra violence. 163 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:12.919 They were showing him, you know, footage of the kind 164 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.679 of crimes that he got pleasure from, much as what 165 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.799 they do with what's her name, what they do with 166 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:26.720 Lana Banana. They show her lesbian porn and give her 167 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:33.720 something to induce like really insane amounts of nausea. And yeah, 168 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:36.200 there's all sorts of stuff in there, and you get 169 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:42.159 generational trauma with the the serial killer, Bloody Face's son, 170 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:43.879 who he. 171 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:49.320 Is a psychiatrist. What do you mean bloody Face is 172 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:54.120 a psychiatry right? But the Sun, No, the Sun's just retard. 173 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:57.879 Yeah, I mean, And we won't spoil everything, but I 174 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:01.279 would just say that for me wrapping it up, I 175 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:02.720 think you probably have a lot more to say. I 176 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:07.360 would just say it was a pretty good conspiratorial And 177 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:09.840 I was telling Julia, if they would have thought of 178 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.000 the name conspirasylum like we did, it would have been 179 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:15.480 in a goddamn good name because every conspiracy that you 180 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:18.559 could think of, it's like, you know, not all of them, 181 00:12:18.559 --> 00:12:22.639 but a good majority of them, big majority of tight 182 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:23.120 in there. 183 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:27.559 Yeah. So the first time I watched that season, I 184 00:12:27.639 --> 00:12:31.440 was like, ah, fuck, it's a mental asylum, fucking season. 185 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:34.000 I'm not gonna like it because it just triggers me 186 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:39.399 when I watch stuff like that. And I watched it 187 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.519 maybe three times on my own. This is probably the 188 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:45.840 fourth time I've watched it all the way through. And 189 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:51.240 if you if you're watching it looking for the conspiratorial 190 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:54.519 stuff and not just trying to enjoy it as a show, 191 00:12:55.240 --> 00:12:58.919 there is a lot in there and even the uh 192 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:03.960 the Nazi guy doctor yeah, Doctor Arden. 193 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:08.240 They plaid by the guy that says, pig, let's go. 194 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:10.480 The guy from Big and Green Mile. 195 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:13.000 I was gonna say to me, he's the guy from 196 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:14.799 Green Mile and always will be. 197 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:20.440 Is his name? James Cromwell, the actor. He did a 198 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:25.519 goddamn good job. Yeah, that's him anyway. Sorry to cut you. 199 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:31.159 Off, but uh, they use the term project paper clip. 200 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:33.519 They actually do say it at one point. 201 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:36.080 Yeah, I mean it's truly say it. I don't know 202 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:39.720 a whole lot about the guys who write this stuff 203 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:43.799 for American Horror Story. I knew that they knew something 204 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:48.519 when I watched season one Murder House because of the 205 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:51.159 amount of shit that they put in there that it's like, 206 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:52.200 how do they know that? 207 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:55.879 Well, that's one thing about every American Horror Story season. 208 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:00.879 It's just too fucking on the nose with it's so much, 209 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:06.600 and it's like the stuff that used to be more 210 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:10.399 taboo to talk about, and then once it has slipped 211 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:15.600 into the conspiracies. I guist whoever is influencing these bigger 212 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.000 shows that are just shoved down our throats. Even American 213 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:25.279 Horse Story followed Glee. These two dudes made Glee, which 214 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:27.840 is not anything I've ever set through more than thirty 215 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:29.879 seconds at a time, maybe walking through a room, but 216 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:32.679 as far as I know, it's like a musical and 217 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:35.480 a kind of a high school set. He never fucking 218 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:38.559 watched that, No, but yeah. 219 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:41.440 And I'm obsessed with American horror Story. Isn't that crazy? 220 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:44.559 Yeah? But it's their world's apart and these What I'm 221 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:48.480 saying is these guys struck gold with this Glee show, 222 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:52.039 and then the next thing they do is American horse Story, 223 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:54.840 and it's just like, how the fuck did you go 224 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:57.360 from that to that? I mean, once you get that 225 00:14:57.440 --> 00:15:02.840 mainstream success and then you're making this heavily conspiracy laden 226 00:15:03.440 --> 00:15:07.159 series about every fucking season is a whole new story, 227 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:10.080 and it's just I mean, by the time you get 228 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:13.759 to the one with Lady Gaga Hotel, Yeah, it's just like, 229 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.320 Jesus Christ, what are they not going to say with you? 230 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:18.720 That's what I was gonna say, is like when I 231 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:21.720 watch Murder House, I was like, well, what the fuck 232 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:24.360 because they put so much stuff in there? And then 233 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:28.399 when I watched Asylum this last time, it's like, why 234 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:30.320 don't they just come out and spell it for you. 235 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.799 I don't know if there's that much in Kevin, but 236 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:37.600 it is my favorite season. Anyways. I was gonna say, 237 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:41.759 close to the end of Asylum, the one chick is 238 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:44.039 talking about, Oh, they're gonna make a movie based on 239 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:48.519 my documentary or my book or whatever, and she said 240 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:52.600 she wants Tuesday Well to play her. Did that not 241 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:53.720 seem random to you? 242 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:59.559 Did it seem random? Yeah to you, No, not after 243 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:03.679 listening you talk about Tuesday Well, if you didn't know. 244 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:07.840 Who she was and you just heard that name who 245 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:08.320 that was? 246 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:10.879 Not if you didn't know, I mean, how many people 247 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:16.120 have either dove down the Tuesday Weld rabbit hole or 248 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:21.080 had the privilege of marrying somebody who did. I don't 249 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.559 honestly know. If it wasn't for you, if she's ever 250 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:26.120 somebody I would have looked into. I mean, yeah, she 251 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:29.399 turns up in all of these weird places that you 252 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:31.720 can see in daylight. But I never would have thought, well, 253 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:34.600 let's connect those dots like you did. So, yeah, it 254 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:37.440 would seem random to nine out of ten people watching this. 255 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:40.759 Well, for me, it was like, of all the people 256 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:43.039 she could have said to play her. 257 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:45.440 And if it weren't, if it was just some conspiracy candy. 258 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:48.480 They could have said like Marilyn Monroe or something, but 259 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:51.200 she would have been dead by then though, right, she 260 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:52.120 died in sixty two. 261 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:57.960 Maybe she literally could have said any of the popular Tuesday. 262 00:16:57.519 --> 00:16:59.679 Well was not like she's not a starlet like a 263 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:01.600 lot of like she could have said. It would have 264 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:04.680 been like today if she would have said, I want 265 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:08.440 to get played by who I don't know, like a 266 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:10.519 third rate actress Rihanna. 267 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:14.000 Well, no, she's oh you're saying if she like an 268 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:18.720 example of day World. Oh, it would be like literally saying, uh, 269 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:21.519 Lily Raby is. 270 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:23.920 Just play Lily Raby. 271 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:26.680 I don't even know how to say her last name. 272 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:31.000 Well that for people, that's that's the actress that portrayed 273 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:34.680 Sister Mary Eunice in this Asylum too. But yeah, anyway, 274 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:36.720 we're going off on a Tuesday World tangent. But it 275 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:40.400 is a good point because, yeah, your hackles go up 276 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:44.119 once you've done some Laurel Canyon slash Tuesday World research 277 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:46.079 that they would have picked that name. But I mean, 278 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:48.039 there's so much in this there. 279 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:52.359 Also, when she goes back to the asylum and she's 280 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.240 got like that film crew with her. She says, verbatim 281 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:59.359 a line from the Heraldo. 282 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:04.680 Rivera expos Right, and she so this uh Atlanta character, 283 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:07.440 Lanta Winters, who by the end of the series is 284 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:12.839 a cutthroat author who has lied her way to infamy 285 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:17.559 as this victim, this survivor. You know, she was almost 286 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:22.079 one of a Bloody Face's victims, was raped and impregnated. 287 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:27.200 Now has the sun on her ass and she just 288 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.200 she turns into this cutthroat bitch. And when she started, 289 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:33.480 it was almost like she was based on that woman 290 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:36.160 we talked about who was the undercover reporter. 291 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.039 Right. You could tell they did some not some, but 292 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:44.640 they did research into like real life scenarios to like 293 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:45.960 include them into this. 294 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:49.279 Yeah, and it would be interesting to see like what 295 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:51.920 exactly she is based on, because she is an amalgamation 296 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:57.200 of many things. Like you said, she's even spouting Geraldo 297 00:18:57.519 --> 00:18:58.759 Rivera lines. 298 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:02.559 But yeah, that's all I had for asylum. I mean, 299 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:07.039 it's all in there, literally the supernatural aspect of the 300 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:14.759 Paranormal Extraterrestrial MK Ultra project paper clip. It's based in 301 00:19:14.920 --> 00:19:20.000 the Laurel Canyon era. I mean, it's got everything. 302 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:23.480 Yeah, and this is at first I thought it was 303 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:27.599 upstate New York. But it's not. They said at one point, 304 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:32.000 the state of such and such absorb because it goes 305 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:35.839 from being a Catholic run institute to by the time 306 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:39.359 you know the show's about wrapped up, the state steps 307 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:42.720 in and it just becomes this fucking violin cabinet for 308 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:49.079 the dregs of society. And yeah, anyway, it's I think 309 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:52.279 it's the best season. I think that as far as this, 310 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:56.200 all of them, I've always said it was my favorite. 311 00:19:56.359 --> 00:20:01.200 I mean, yeah, I'm glad you're re watching Murder House. 312 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:04.519 I like Murder House. It's it's more up your alley 313 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:06.680 because of your interests, and I would say season two 314 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:09.920 is more up my alley. But they're both great. Coven 315 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:12.960 to me was my favorite seed kind of like watching 316 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:16.079 almost like Twilight or something. 317 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:18.720 I'm gonna try to sell you on Coven because I 318 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:21.200 feel like it's targeted towards women to enjoy. 319 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:24.480 Okay, but there's a lot of very sexist. 320 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:29.240 Well, there is a lot of like what I would 321 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:34.319 consider to be true stuff mixed with a little bit 322 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:35.240 of fantasy stuff. 323 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:38.799 It's got all sorts, all right, Well, we don't need 324 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:42.319 to argue in front of everybody about our favorite American 325 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:43.319 horse story series. 326 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:48.400 I have decided to either open or close this episode 327 00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:50.319 with Tom. 328 00:20:56.119 --> 00:20:56.359 Yeah. 329 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:00.680 They play that shit on loop. This French mm hmm. 330 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.799 Whatever kind of music you would call that. 331 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:06.839 I don't know, but it's it's iconic. 332 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:12.039 Maybe French pop music of the bitties. Who knows. 333 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:15.759 If you're listening to it, you belong at Briarcliff. 334 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:21.119 All right, let's get into the movies. You first, No, 335 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:23.799 you're going first, because we just want going. It's we're 336 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:26.160 going in. So we we had a little draft pick 337 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:28.680 and we're just gonna go in the order that they 338 00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:29.240 were picked. 339 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:31.799 Okay, what was my first pick? 340 00:21:32.039 --> 00:21:34.880 The one, the one that is the freshest on both 341 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:38.519 of our minds. We literally wrapped up that movie right 342 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:45.279 before stepping into the recording room. In nineteen sixty nine, 343 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:50.880 The Wild Ones went to Woodstock, The Unlucky Ones went 344 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:51.359 to war. 345 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:53.400 There's something happened. 346 00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:56.880 But if you didn't know where you were going, you have. 347 00:21:56.920 --> 00:21:59.359 The distinction of being the only scene of not going 348 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:01.720 on to college. I don't have a plan. I just 349 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:04.759 don't want to end up like my mother Susanna Wis. 350 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:07.400 They said you to Claymore. 351 00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:09.039 The best place in the world for someone like you 352 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:10.960 is less than a half an hour from my heart. 353 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:12.799 Welcome to Claymore's an. 354 00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:18.759 I guess I'm puzzled as to why it does I 355 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:20.319 have to be in a mental institution. 356 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:21.279 Call me a cab. 357 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:25.119 Okay, you're a cab. You've chased a bottle of aspirin, 358 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:28.920 the bottle of vodka. I had a headache. 359 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.519 But the one step. Now jam this in my order. Listen, 360 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:37.480 your a order is in your chest. Good to know. 361 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:40.000 What that has? 362 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:41.759 This leads, Oh, I don't I don't need them. 363 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:42.960 I'm going to have a problem. 364 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:43.680 Look at. 365 00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:50.200 Is there something about sex which lifts your feelings of despair? 366 00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:57.960 Have you ever had sex highs and lows? Increasingly through year? 367 00:22:58.200 --> 00:22:59.799 Lisa think she's hot because she's such a. 368 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:04.000 Bad I'm asociat know what you're gay? 369 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:09.279 Uncertainty about goals and a generally pessimistic attitude are often observed. 370 00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:18.519 That's me, that's everybody. Well, this will be something that 371 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:21.200 if you're a long time listener to my show, you've 372 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:24.400 already heard me talk about in the Wizard of Oz episode, 373 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:27.319 and a lot of people ask me to cover the 374 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:30.680 Wizard of Oz stuff on their show. But it's been 375 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:33.640 so long since I recorded that episode, there's a lot 376 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:36.160 of I would actually have to go back and listen 377 00:23:36.599 --> 00:23:39.960 to my Wizard of Oz. I put so much stuff 378 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:45.920 in there that I mean, it was like a I 379 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:50.400 don't know, it was way over an hour of random 380 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:54.480 stuff about Wizard of Oz. But Girl Interrupted ended up 381 00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:58.440 being a big part of it. Well, I will just 382 00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:02.039 ask you if you got anything out of it before 383 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:03.599 I go on my big tangent. 384 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:08.519 I'll just I'll let you dominate this one, because I 385 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:12.559 wouldn't say I'm a huge fan of the movie even 386 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:16.920 while rewatching it years years later. I mean, we're talking 387 00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:19.759 about half my lifetime ago that I saw this over half, 388 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:24.720 and I think that it it's kind of like a 389 00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:29.599 moody time piece with some stuff thrown in there. As 390 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:34.240 far as the mental institution that the plot circles around, 391 00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:39.759 it's it's like a Whoopi Goldberg, who plays the what 392 00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:43.079 would you call her? She's not a nurse, she's like that, 393 00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:47.960 she's like basically whatever. She's the nurse ratchet of this place. 394 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:50.799 She's so nice though, Yeah, and she's not like a 395 00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:51.640 nurse ratchet. 396 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:53.799 Everybody calls her the inward and she just lets it 397 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:56.000 slide off her back like there are Milk Gibson doing 398 00:24:56.039 --> 00:25:02.079 it and uh she she's a good character, you know, 399 00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:05.039 kind of holds the movie together. You get to see 400 00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:08.960 Angelina Jolie at her craziest, she's basically just playing herself. 401 00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:12.400 And then you get to see some of these other 402 00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:16.200 smaller time actors for the time of you know, Britney Murphy, 403 00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:20.240 Clea Deval and the acting is amazing. The story is 404 00:25:20.279 --> 00:25:22.559 good and I didn't know this, but I thought it 405 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:24.799 might be the case it's based It's based on a 406 00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:28.279 real story. Susanna Caseon's a real person. Did you know that? 407 00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.200 Uh No, But that's not got anything to do with 408 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:34.319 what they did with the movie. I promise you. 409 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:37.240 I think I'm telling you my thoughts and then you're 410 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:38.559 gonna go on your big tangent. 411 00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:41.559 But saying I'm just saying they can take something like 412 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:44.640 this like it was a real girl and yeah, they 413 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:46.640 made a story about her life, and they would. 414 00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:50.640 Well, it's the scripts based on the memoir, so it's 415 00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:53.559 a real story. Which is the only point I was 416 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:57.359 making was it seemed like it was a biographical type 417 00:25:57.400 --> 00:25:58.759 movie when I watched it. 418 00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:00.799 But this time it's stuff in to make it not 419 00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:01.519 une of. 420 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:05.039 Course, but the just this is just the setup. And 421 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:07.720 my whole point was if you want to see like 422 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:12.440 gnarly treatment of patience and an insane asylum like you'll 423 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.240 see in American horror story Asylum, this movie is more 424 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.559 of just like a story. But yeah, it's it's interlaced 425 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:20.319 with all sorts of stuff that Julia is going to 426 00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:23.119 talk about. But on its face, I wouldn't say it's 427 00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:24.759 a great movie. I would. 428 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:30.960 I mean, I only now appreciate it because of my 429 00:26:31.279 --> 00:26:36.920 conspiracy mind. So in my opinion, one of the first 430 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:40.920 movies ever created that was just an entire mkol for 431 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:45.400 a project was Wizard of Oz. Right, I think that 432 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:51.640 this movie is just paying homage to MK ultra through 433 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.759 references to the Wizard of Oz. And it's actually throughout 434 00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.839 the entire movie. I don't know if it was in 435 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.119 a memoir or not. It would be odd if it was, 436 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:07.680 but they had they snuck so many Wizard of Oz 437 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:09.880 references into this movie. 438 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:13.079 Well, and they're not even snuck, they're very blatant. It's 439 00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:18.240 from the very first scene where Susannah played by wine 440 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:21.240 owner writer walks into it. There's ship laid all over 441 00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:23.519 the bed right of one of the patients. 442 00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:27.960 Yes, her roommate is obsessed with reading the OZ books. 443 00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:32.880 But think about this, right, Britney Murphy's cat's name. 444 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.480 Ruby, right, it's a her once you pay attention to 445 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:39.559 how often it shows up and then you see the 446 00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:42.119 cat's names Ruby, I would I would think that one 447 00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.039 would be obvious to most people. Maybe not well. 448 00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:50.079 And also yellow brick road, right, Britney Murphy, She's in 449 00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:53.519 all yellow kitchens, all yellow. 450 00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:58.759 And then well, even when they sneak down into the tunnel, 451 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:01.519 that shit's lit in like a yellow hue. 452 00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:05.599 Oh yeah. And again, for people who have listened to 453 00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:07.880 my podcast for a very long time, you can go 454 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.119 back and find this episode that I did all about 455 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:14.240 the Wizard of Oz, where I show you how it 456 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.680 was maybe the first because it was in technicolor. You 457 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:24.200 remember it was like the first anyways, much like Alice 458 00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:28.720 in Wonderland, Wizard of Oz is just a big MK experiment. 459 00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:34.400 And there are so many references in this movie about 460 00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:40.759 mental illness to Wizard of Oz. It's almost like they're 461 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:45.440 telling you without telling you. Mental illness and MK mind 462 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:51.119 control stuff are one and the same. You know what 463 00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:51.480 I mean. 464 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:52.920 Well, they do go hand in hand. 465 00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.200 Her roommate's obsessed with Wizard of Oz. She's got all 466 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:56.960 the books out. 467 00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:02.759 There's the play the scene. Yeah, they play the scene 468 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:04.680 with the it. 469 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.759 Is all the dream I'm leaving, bye bye. 470 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:08.599 Everybody's crying. 471 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:11.559 In the last scene where she's saying goodbye to her roommate. 472 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:17.039 They even have her in like a Dorothy esque looking 473 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:21.279 like pull over dress thing with the shirt on underneath 474 00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:28.319 of it. Yeah, and I think that it's just another 475 00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:32.079 I have found Wizard of Oz references in a ton 476 00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:35.640 of movies that are There's a ton of Wizard of 477 00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:37.839 Oz references in The Shining too. 478 00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:42.200 It's latent in pop culture for sure. I mean it 479 00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:43.519 turns up all over the place. 480 00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.359 But I feel like when you see it, it's a signal. 481 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:52.039 Right. Even the song Somewhere Over the Rainbow is a 482 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:59.359 well known trigger. Like these programmed people in Hollywood have talked. 483 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:03.960 About that it's like through the looking glass. So when 484 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:09.759 for me, this movie, regardless of if it's based on 485 00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:12.359 a true story or not, what they did when they 486 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.079 created the movie was sneak a bunch of stuff in there. 487 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:20.799 If you want all of the examples. You can go 488 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:23.599 back and find my Wizard of Oz episode and listen 489 00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:25.599 to all of it. Because I talk about the shining, 490 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.960 I talk about girl interrupted, I talk about a lot 491 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:36.319 of stuff. But yeah, that to me was something that 492 00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.759 stuck out and I went back and rewatched it, and 493 00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:43.240 it's like when she goes to order ice cream and 494 00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:48.240 she says that she wants rainbow sprinkles, not chocolate, she 495 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:51.640 like makes that kind of you. 496 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:53.599 Know, Yeah, the girls get taken out for an ice 497 00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:57.680 cream and everything goes to shit, but she's seducing the 498 00:30:58.480 --> 00:30:59.680 young man at the counter. 499 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:02.559 Yeah, to me, it was just like one of those 500 00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.599 things where they've already put a bunch of Wizard of 501 00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:07.480 Oz stuff and then when they go get ice cream, 502 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.720 she's like rainbow not chocolate. Like she makes a point 503 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:15.559 to say, there's just little stuff sprinkled. 504 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:19.720 Well, what would you say? Obviously, Susannah would be Dorothy 505 00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:25.920 uh Lisa portrayed by Angelina. She would be the one 506 00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:29.640 without a heart. She's constantly I think she. 507 00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.400 Would be the Wicked Witch of the West, No, or 508 00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:33.799 maybe even Glinda. 509 00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:36.640 She has no heart, but. 510 00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:39.559 The Scarecrow gains a heart and she doesn't. 511 00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:41.359 Is it the tin man that doesn't have a heart, 512 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:43.279 Scarecrow doesn't have a brain. 513 00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:45.200 Scarecrow doesn't have a brain. 514 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:51.359 And obviously the compulsive liar, she lacks courage. I mean, 515 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:53.960 I don't know. This analysis is just being pulled out 516 00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:55.839 of my ass. I'm really not standing by handing any 517 00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:56.400 of this, Babs. 518 00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:58.200 I mean, you're on the right track. I think that 519 00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:01.680 they're literally trying to to tell the Wizard of Oz 520 00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:05.880 story through m K through this person's memoir. 521 00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:09.039 So who would be the wizard telling you to look 522 00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:10.799 behind the curtain? Would that be the don't you? 523 00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.599 She called her the Great and Wonderful Doctor Wick. 524 00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:22.759 As if Wick Wizard's where's the Gomatria charts in Wizard. 525 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.799 Of Oz, he's called the Great and Wonderful Oz and 526 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:29.319 she calls her the Great and Wonderful doctor Wick. So 527 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.160 there's literally a million references to the Wizard of Oz 528 00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:34.160 and that, oh for sure. 529 00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:35.640 Yeah, it's all over the place. 530 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:42.640 So doctor Wick is the Wizard. I think Woopy Goldberg 531 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:44.680 could be Glinda. 532 00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:50.319 Who's Toto Ruby? 533 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:52.279 No? Yeah, what not? 534 00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:56.839 Who is the lady with the burns on her faces? 535 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.119 I mean, you get a whole ridge in these are 536 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.960 like people that probably came from well off families. What 537 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.359 he calls it a four star resort or a five 538 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:10.079 star resort compared to some of the state hospitals she's 539 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:12.519 worked out. But you get people in there who have 540 00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:16.119 tried to commit suicide, people with eating disorders, and it's 541 00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:18.480 it's you know, not co ed. 542 00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:21.079 It's really strictly he's getting raped by her dad. 543 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.000 Yeah, and Angelina tells her that she liked it, so 544 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:27.079 she killed herself. I mean, there's some moments in this 545 00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.519 movie where I'm thinking they're definitely paying some homage to 546 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:32.920 Once Flew Over the Cuckoo's Net. 547 00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:33.480 Yeah. 548 00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.880 Yeah, and she would be more of the RP. McMurtry 549 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.839 or is it McMurtry or McMurphy, McMurphy, McMurphy, it would 550 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.519 be I think Angelina would be Jack Nicholson. I don't know. 551 00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:47.200 Which. 552 00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:49.960 We'll get to that one. Don't worry, that's gonna that's 553 00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:51.960 the last one on my list to talk about it. 554 00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:53.599 I think it might be the last one we talked about. 555 00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:55.519 Well we can move on then. 556 00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:59.440 Yeah, but just saying do you see, I mean I'm 557 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.640 not stretched in here, right, you see what I'm talking 558 00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:02.920 about with the of course. 559 00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:06.000 Okay, yeah, no, definitely, it's could you. 560 00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.880 Appreciate the movie a little bit differently with that in mind? 561 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:10.920 I mean I had it in mind, oh when we 562 00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:12.880 watched it this time, because you kept pointing it out 563 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.519 every time it came up. Yeah, so yeah, I'm talking 564 00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:21.519 about just as an overall cinematic experience. I just never 565 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.519 even when I watched it when it first came out, 566 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:25.760 I just never thought it was like a five star movie. 567 00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:30.400 Since we're on just the second one right now, I 568 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.039 do think we should end it with one to ten kops. 569 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:40.960 I'd give Girl Interrupted six kicks out of. 570 00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:44.360 Ten, American Horror Story. 571 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.320 Asylum eleven out of ten. 572 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:48.800 I'm giving American. 573 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:50.719 I'm allowed to give it an eleven out of ten. 574 00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:55.599 Yeah, I'll do ten out of ten kicks for Asylum. 575 00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.400 But you tell me I'm crazy for that being my 576 00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:01.039 favorite series you're giving anything. 577 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:05.719 I'm not rating it based on the other the other seasons. 578 00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:06.679 I'm just rating. 579 00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.039 So it's got a perfect rating. 580 00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:12.559 So you an Covin has twenty out of. 581 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:17.559 Tin, can't go above eleven like spinal Taps. 582 00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:22.199 It's eleven Girl Interrupted just for the weird MK Wizard 583 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.639 of our stuff. I'm gonna give it seven out of 584 00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:25.400 ten kokes. 585 00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:28.800 Oh so it's you're only slightly higher than my rating. 586 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:33.000 I was expecting you to do a higher one. All right, Well, 587 00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:37.239 next up, we have my first pick, which is fight Club. 588 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:43.000 I want you to hit me as hard as you can. Why. 589 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:44.760 How much can you know about yourself? You've never been 590 00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:49.119 in a fight. Wait, let me start earlier. Like many 591 00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:52.039 of you, I was stuck. You want me to deprioritize 592 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.960 my current reports. Yeah, until you guys a status upgrade. 593 00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:56.519 Make these your primary reaction items. 594 00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.679 I couldn't sleep, No, you can't die. 595 00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:00.320 Form inso oniah up. 596 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:03.480 Through catalogs and wonder what kind of dining set defines 597 00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.239 me as a person. This is your life and it's 598 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.800 ending one minute at a time. I prayed for a 599 00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:10.559 different life. 600 00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:11.119 Soap. 601 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.599 I make the soapd and. 602 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:16.320 This is how I'm met Tyler dirty. 603 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:18.000 Come on, hit before I lose my nerve. 604 00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:21.519 Wow, hit me in the ear. 605 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.320 It was on the tip of everyone's tongue. 606 00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:26.079 Can I be next? 607 00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:29.840 We just gave it a name, gentlemen, Welcome to fight Club. 608 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:36.239 I would say it's always working its way in and 609 00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:40.440 out of my top five favorite movies. And it's also 610 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:43.199 based on a novel, which the novel isn't that good 611 00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.199 of a book. It's almost like Chuck Paul and Nook, 612 00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:48.280 the author of Fight Club, writes books that would make 613 00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:51.440 really good films in the right hand. But there's only 614 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.280 been two that I know of. Choke was the other 615 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:56.519 one that wasn't good, but fight Club for the nineties 616 00:36:56.679 --> 00:37:01.840 was it was almost like watching the Matrix whoa and 617 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:05.000 they took an old trope, you know, oh, this guy's 618 00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:08.320 actually the same person as this guy, and put a 619 00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:11.920 new twist on it. But the movie really does explore 620 00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:17.559 mental illness from like this macabre kind of And I 621 00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:22.400 always said that David Lyncher, he almost feels industrial, like 622 00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:27.320 that that genre of music. Which is funny too, because 623 00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.599 Trent Reznor ended up being the guy that scores all 624 00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.159 his movies. But he's got this, like, you know, seven 625 00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:35.559 fight Club. He's done some lighter movies, but most of 626 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.320 the time you just feel like you're rolling around in 627 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.599 a gutter. When you watch a David Fincher movie and 628 00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:42.239 Fight Club, you're definitely in a fucking gutter. It's like 629 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.599 that dark gutter in everybody's mind. This main character Edward 630 00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:52.559 Norton just kind of rolls with it and programs himself 631 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:56.559 to believe that he's two different people. And it was 632 00:37:56.599 --> 00:37:59.880 one of those like sixth sense kind of twists ending 633 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:03.360 where you just left the theater shaking your head, almost 634 00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:05.119 wanting to go right back in and watch it all 635 00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:09.239 over again. But for me, it just shows like this 636 00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:12.719 character breaking down, and as he breaks down throughout the movie, 637 00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:18.159 the hints that he is the Tyler Durden Brad Pitt character. 638 00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:22.239 I just think it's a genius way of like looking 639 00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.320 at the darker side of a psyche and like what 640 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:27.599 a torment in mind could do if they just rolled 641 00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:30.400 with this idea. I mean, you can go into a 642 00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:34.480 CIA back room and be programmed to think all sorts 643 00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:37.239 of shit, but maybe some people could just do it 644 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:38.320 to themselves. 645 00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:40.760 Do you ever wish you could go back and watch 646 00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:42.280 something for the first time? 647 00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:49.440 Uh? Not really. I think that one of the things 648 00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:53.880 I enjoy is watching a movie that I've already seen 649 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.440 that I think is amazing with somebody like you, and 650 00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:01.079 you get to like see it vicariously, like it's almost fresh. 651 00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:04.199 But once I've seen a movie that blows my mind, 652 00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:06.360 I just want to watch it for the second time again, 653 00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:10.400 like really, oh yeah, because you get this like bomb 654 00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:12.760 go off in your head with some of these films, 655 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:17.519 and then when you go back with already the you know, 656 00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:19.800 the foreknoledge of what is going to be the end 657 00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.159 of this movie that blew your mind, then you can 658 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:26.639 start like dissecting it all the hints, all the different 659 00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:28.119 things you missed the first time. 660 00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.840 You never get jealous when you watch stuff like that 661 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.920 with me and I've only I'm seeing it for the 662 00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.039 first time, and you're jealous. Yeah, because like sometimes I 663 00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.440 wish I could go back and like watch something for 664 00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:41.719 the first time and like get that feeling of the 665 00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:43.039 first time I watched it. 666 00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:47.320 Well, you know what if that eternal sunshine of the 667 00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:50.960 Spotless Mind technology was really you could just erase the 668 00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:54.039 memory where you saw this movie. Well, no, you're not 669 00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:56.480 like erasing it, No, but would you do it if 670 00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.960 like you could just Okay, well, I'm giving your ways. 671 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.159 Here, anybody to fuck with my mind. I'm just saying 672 00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:03.440 when you. 673 00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.679 Yeah, I'm letting someone hypnotize you or letting someone put 674 00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:07.719 you under for some weird shit to your head. It's 675 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:08.519 just fun. 676 00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:11.000 But I'm just saying, because. 677 00:40:11.079 --> 00:40:12.960 Maybe with neural ink you could do this. 678 00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:16.519 No, thank you. Uh, that was the first time I 679 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:18.119 had watched Fight Club. 680 00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:21.480 Yeah, you've only seen it once, and I was not. 681 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:25.039 You're saying that there's little clues that he ended up 682 00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:28.760 being I saw no clues. I was so convinced because 683 00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:32.639 you're watching that Pitt was a separate person and was 684 00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.519 not for you said, there's like clues that, oh, you 685 00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:39.719 start putting it together that they're the same person. Not 686 00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:41.079 all right, well I did not. 687 00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:43.800 You will watch it, maybe I'm retarded. We'll watch it 688 00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:47.280 again within the next few months, and I will pause 689 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.440 it and show you every hint and you'll start to go, 690 00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:50.840 holy shit, they're everywhere. 691 00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:51.280 Yeah. 692 00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:52.719 But that's why I said, do you ever wish you 693 00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:54.840 could watch something for the first time again? Because I'm 694 00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:56.360 telling you it's not that obvious. 695 00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:00.679 It's not obvious the first time you watch. That's the 696 00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:01.360 beauty of it. 697 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:04.400 And actually I came to you weeks later trying to 698 00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.360 find fucking plot holes because I was like, but wait 699 00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:08.880 a minute, Well, when. 700 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.679 You get into a movie where you're dealing with like 701 00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.760 a story through the perspective of somebody who's mentally ill, 702 00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.760 plot holes can be all over the place, but I 703 00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:23.719 really don't think Fight Club has any. 704 00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:25.199 Well, no, that's why I brought it to you because 705 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:26.800 I was like, wait a second, if they're supposed to 706 00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:28.960 be the same person, what about da da da da da? 707 00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.000 And you were like no, because but anyways, Yeah, I 708 00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:36.119 just was curious sometimes that when I'm showing you a 709 00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:39.239 movie for the first time, I'll be like, I wonder 710 00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:42.320 what he's thinking, like because I remember the first time 711 00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:45.119 I watched it and loving it, or like feeling a 712 00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:47.960 certain way, you know, like the first time I watched 713 00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:52.440 Terry Potter Best Day Ever. 714 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:56.320 Is not your favorite movie, no, but it was. 715 00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:58.199 So magical for me because I had read all the 716 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.840 books and then it was like it were added to life. 717 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.159 And how old were you when you so you were 718 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.920 the exact right aids for that because it starts at 719 00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:11.679 a third grade reading level and then she upset so 720 00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:14.199 she can grow up, or so that the readers to 721 00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:18.199 the initial work can grow up with the characters. 722 00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:18.880 Yeah. 723 00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:21.719 So that ship came out when I was in high school, 724 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:27.920 and I just don't have any bone in my body 725 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:30.760 that's tickled by like straight up fantasy, even when it's 726 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:33.199 ead when it's like, and I know this for a 727 00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:37.880 fact that she had access to all sorts of occultic 728 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:42.119 information because she's not just guessing. And I think that 729 00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:46.079 aspect of it is interesting, Like who the fuck is 730 00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:52.000 this bitch? Now She's like in this very mainstream public 731 00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:58.679 outroar about being a transfebe and all her fucking you know, 732 00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:03.199 the people who all present company excluded, But most people 733 00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.599 who love Harry Potter and more of the costumes and 734 00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:08.400 waited in line to see the movies have purple hair, 735 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.119 and they're all for that stuff. And well, you know, 736 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:13.519 she's almost like a chaos agent. 737 00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:14.199 Yeah. 738 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:17.159 I was gonna say that's it's interesting that you say that, 739 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:20.800 because it's very true. I mean, I did wear costumes 740 00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:23.719 and go wait in line for midnight releases and stuff. 741 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.360 People didn't grow out of that. You know, they're very 742 00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.320 they're very torn on whether they can get on board 743 00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:30.480 with the work of JK. 744 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:35.280 And to bring it full circle, Harry Potter fans belatricks 745 00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:39.320 Lestrange is in Fight Club. 746 00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:41.800 Okay, who's the fuck's that? 747 00:43:42.360 --> 00:43:43.679 The chicky fucks? 748 00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.280 Oh we're talking Helen a bottom part. 749 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:47.360 Yeah. 750 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.880 Oh, and I would to me one of the biggest hints, 751 00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:54.719 and people who have seen Fight Club a number of 752 00:43:54.719 --> 00:44:01.559 times might have noticed this watching the actions of Edward 753 00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.320 Norton's character, who doesn't have a name by the way, 754 00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:06.800 is Tyler Durton you find out, but he just doesn't 755 00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:09.320 have a name through the whole movie, but watching her 756 00:44:09.400 --> 00:44:13.760 reaction to him when he's fucking her one minute and 757 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.880 then telling her to leave, and you know, he's fucking 758 00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:19.159 her as Tyler Durton my house and she just like 759 00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.440 looks at him and she's in love with him, obviously, 760 00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:25.880 but she's also like putting up. But you watch this 761 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:29.480 movie through her eyes and it's just like, you know, 762 00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:33.519 like she's just thrown off because he's watch he calls 763 00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.000 him doctor Jekyl and mister asshole at one point or 764 00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:39.920 something like that. But yeah, Fight Club, I, unless you 765 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:41.840 have anything to say, I'll let you rate it first. 766 00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:46.320 Oh for mental illness, Yeah, I'm giving it ten out 767 00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:47.079 of ten. 768 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:50.719 Kokes Kar well obviously me too. 769 00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.760 Yeah, I maybe if I get to the end of 770 00:44:54.760 --> 00:45:01.000 the movie and I'm genuinely shocked that's a ten out 771 00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:03.960 of ten. Coups also because it's like they got you going. 772 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:11.280 It's also worth note that the conspiracy stuff that sprinkled it. 773 00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:15.880 In fight Club, you get to see Project Mayhem is 774 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.480 legitimately based on many things that are real that we've 775 00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:24.719 seen in the last few years. Supposedly the movie or 776 00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:26.920 the book was supposed to take place in twenty twenty 777 00:45:26.920 --> 00:45:30.599 four and like the all these collapses and you know, 778 00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.519 you get I mean, the book was written in the 779 00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:37.360 mid nineties and you hadn't seen a lot of stuff 780 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:41.440 specific year. Well, he's written books since that. We're even 781 00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:44.400 more prophetic about where culture is going. And Chuck Paul 782 00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:47.800 Nook is somebody worth looking into. JJ Vance likes to 783 00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:51.599 talk about him and how you know. One thing to 784 00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:54.519 mention about him is he was part of the Cacophony Society, 785 00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:58.159 which has probably got CIA roots. If you really look 786 00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:00.000 into it, it looks a lot like co Intel. 787 00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:03.199 Pre JJ has talked about Fight Club before too. 788 00:46:03.320 --> 00:46:05.159 Yeah, we've talked about it when we were talking about 789 00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:06.440 other things and it's come up. 790 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:13.800 It's a great example of many things. Yeah, by the way, 791 00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.719 if they sold it, I would definitely buy the soap. 792 00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:24.159 Got it No like the real soap. Oh take fat 793 00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:27.639 siphoned off fat ladies asses and make it into soap no, 794 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:30.320 you know, definitely by it because that is true what 795 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:31.239 they said in the movie. 796 00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:35.039 Yeah, and I can appreciate this aspect of it. Maybe 797 00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:37.360 a lot of people who listen to my show might 798 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.480 have heard, but I don't know if I've mentioned it 799 00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:42.679 on here. I make soap for a living, And when 800 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:47.760 they steal fat from the lipel section clinic and then 801 00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:51.119 with an ironic twist, sell these rich women they're on 802 00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:54.840 fat asses back to them and these exquisite bars of soap. 803 00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:56.840 It's one of the best scenes too, when they're in 804 00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:00.119 the department store and he's leaning against the counter and 805 00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:02.880 he's freeballing it and his dressed pants are like down 806 00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.760 below his dick root. I mean to me, this is 807 00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:09.400 the greatest role Brad Pitt has ever had. Oh it's 808 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:14.559 not Benjamin, but no another Fincher pit Croak collaboration, I am. 809 00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:16.960 I will say as a side known, I'm excited about 810 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:20.920 the spinoff slash maybe sequel two. Once upon a time 811 00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:26.079 in Hollywood that Quentin Tarantino ended up bagging because he's 812 00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:28.039 only making one more movie and he decided to go 813 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.400 with something else. But Brad Pitt was so attached to 814 00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:32.880 this that David Fincher was allowed to pick it up, 815 00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:36.039 so I think it might be a Netflix thing. But 816 00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:41.639 if you guys are Brad Pitt slash Fincher fans, and 817 00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:45.159 it's probably going to be at least executively produced by Tarantino. 818 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:47.880 He'll be a consultant. But the script was apparently mostly 819 00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:53.599 already written, and hopefully we'll see at least a cameo 820 00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:54.639 with Rick Dalton. 821 00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:57.920 I would love to see it, all. 822 00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:05.239 Right, Well, Rambling's aside. Yeah, my second pick was Donnie Darko. 823 00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:08.880 It was as though this plan had been with him 824 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:12.760 all his life, pondered through the seasons, now in his 825 00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:16.880 fifteenth year, crystallized with the pain of puberty. 826 00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:26.719 So why'd you move here? 827 00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.280 My mom had to get a restraining order against my stepdad. 828 00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:32.920 He has emotional problems. Oh I have those two. 829 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:36.519 What kind of emotional problems are to a man new friend? 830 00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:41.559 Real or imaginary? Donnie imaginary. 831 00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:44.239 I'm going to tell you a little story today about 832 00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.880 a young man whose life was completely destroyed by these 833 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:48.719 instruments of fear. 834 00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:50.440 I haven't seen stuff. 835 00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:55.599 Donnie is experiencing what is commonly called a daylight hallucination. 836 00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:01.320 I have to obey him. He's saved my life. Have 837 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:07.440 you ever seen a portle? Has he ever told you 838 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.960 about his friend Frank? The giant bunny rabbit? 839 00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:10.880 The what. 840 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:18.960 Every living thing follows along set path? And if you 841 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:21.199 could see your path or channel, then you could see 842 00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:22.000 into the future. 843 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:31.199 Right, I'm not going to be able to continue this conversation. 844 00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:34.480 Don't worry. 845 00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:36.039 You got away with it. 846 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:38.400 What is going to happen? 847 00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:43.800 I only have a few days left before they catch me. 848 00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:57.800 When's it going to stop? 849 00:49:58.159 --> 00:49:59.440 You should already know that. 850 00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:05.400 It's also another movie that Julia had not seen until recently. 851 00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:10.079 And yeah, see that's another one first time. 852 00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:12.639 For me and you never had a second time. And 853 00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:16.920 also it's worth note that Donnie Darko was an indie movie, 854 00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.360 and as often happens, once a bigger studio bought it out, 855 00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:24.280 they made this cut that most people have seen when 856 00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:26.679 they've seen Donnie Darko, especially if you saw it in 857 00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:29.559 the early days. But when you watch the director's cut, 858 00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:32.960 it's a lot less cryptic. It kind of explains the 859 00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:36.000 whole time travel element. And so for people who haven't 860 00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:40.599 seen this movie, they take mental illness time travel. 861 00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:44.199 It's a mind fun It's got. 862 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:47.760 Some mc martin element to it with the Patrick Swayze. 863 00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:51.840 He's like a motivational speaker doing the all show. They'll 864 00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:55.679 all light and love and in a nutshell, Donnie is 865 00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:59.280 a troubled boy living in an upper middle class family 866 00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:05.360 in some mountained area suburbia somewhere, and he gets visits 867 00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:09.800 from a bunny who's like a guy in a freaky 868 00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:13.440 bunny costume. And for those of you you've seen it, 869 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.800 will just make it quick. It tells him to do things. 870 00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:20.000 It's got like almost dark elements. You wonder if he's 871 00:51:20.039 --> 00:51:23.239 a villain. At one point he's burning shit down. He 872 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:25.320 exposes this pedophile. 873 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:27.599 Thing is just creepy. 874 00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:31.039 Yeah, And I always said Richard Kelly, who directed this, 875 00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:32.920 it was his debut. He went on to do a 876 00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:36.360 few others. He was almost like wanting to be David Lynch. 877 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.840 And I can definitely see that. 878 00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:42.079 Richard. If you're out there and you happen to hear 879 00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:44.480 this and that's not true, I apologize, but that's what 880 00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:46.480 it looks like to me, is you were a big 881 00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:50.880 Lynch fan. And his second movie is crazy. His third 882 00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:53.519 movie is the one you've seen The box where if 883 00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:56.239 you push this button, someone you don't know will die. 884 00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:01.079 But you'll get a million bucks, probably higher than that, 885 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:03.920 but anyway, Yeah, that's my thoughts on Donnie Darko is 886 00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:08.079 it's just such a It's an iconic movie in the 887 00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:12.760 indie scene in the nineties, and then it's got a 888 00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:16.440 pretty good cast for a movie. It's almost like Tarantino 889 00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:18.599 in his early days pulling in all these actors for 890 00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:21.760 Reservoir Dogs. You could see jill and Hall in his 891 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.559 like almost infancy. I mean he looked like a I 892 00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:28.360 mean he's portraying like a sixteen year old kid or something. 893 00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:29.800 He was probably twenty five. 894 00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:33.880 He's really liked him in Zodiac. 895 00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:37.559 Yeah. It's funny too because we sat down to watch 896 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.400 Prisoners the other night and you're like, I don't like 897 00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:40.519 Jake Jillen Hall. 898 00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:42.599 I don't like him. 899 00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:46.079 That that's you liked him and Donny Darko, yous you 900 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:50.599 like him? Okay, I wasn't aware of this discrepancy. You 901 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.559 liked him in Prisoners. 902 00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:57.159 My favorite from him is Prisoners. 903 00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.119 Yeah, it's the best way I liked him. 904 00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:05.320 Okay, in Donnie Darko and in Zodiac, but my favorite 905 00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:08.639 has to be Prisoners because he was so outside of 906 00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:12.800 that weird dorky YEI Gronnie guy. 907 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:17.480 He played it tormented motherfucker and he was kind of buff. Well, 908 00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:20.239 he got buff. He did that movie where he played 909 00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:25.280 a boxer where what's his name fuck? One of the 910 00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:28.559 best actors, Christian Bells his brother. Anyway, we're getting off 911 00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:32.840 in the weeds. I would say Donnie Darko cult classic movie. 912 00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:35.760 Most people have probably seen it. If you haven't watched it, 913 00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:39.039 I would say, but yeah, close out on your thoughts 914 00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:40.800 and we'll give this baby a rating. 915 00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:43.880 Well, for me, it was obviously the first time I 916 00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:48.880 had seen it. I did find the soundtrack, and I 917 00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:52.079 mean the entire movie was just It's one of those 918 00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:58.159 ones that puts you in this perpetual, weird hallucinogenic state, 919 00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:05.599 like a Lynch movie. Yeah, the imagery, the sounds, the music. Yeah, 920 00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:09.920 it was definitely one of those. You know, was I high? 921 00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:12.599 I don't know if I was pregnant yet. 922 00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.480 Yeah, we watched this within the last few months. You 923 00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:16.639 were definitely not high. 924 00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:18.079 I wasn't high. 925 00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:18.559 I was. 926 00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:21.320 I could have swore you gave me my head off 927 00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:22.360 your weed. Pinch. 928 00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:24.760 No, this is too. 929 00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:26.840 That was high. 930 00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:31.239 You don't need drugs for Donnie Darko feel weird. 931 00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:35.039 D No, but I'm gonna give it. I'll give it 932 00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:38.079 nine out of ten. Pukes, I'll give it nine out 933 00:54:38.079 --> 00:54:38.360 of ten. 934 00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:41.599 Well, we're on par with that. You're giving it night, 935 00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:44.199 I'm giving it nine out of ten. I think that 936 00:54:44.519 --> 00:54:46.840 a movie like Donnie Darko, even when they release a 937 00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:50.920 director's cut and try to over explain it, it's still 938 00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:53.719 just as missing something. I don't know. It's it's not 939 00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:55.760 like what to me. And you know, I'm being really 940 00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:59.519 critical here because I love films and used to be 941 00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:02.639 what I wanted to do. But I would just say 942 00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:05.480 there's just a little something missing. But for a dude's 943 00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:08.960 first movie that directors pretty good and for what he 944 00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:12.119 pulled off, a nine out of ten, and I am, 945 00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:14.280 you know, I don't give tens easily. 946 00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:18.960 I was just gonna say, you know, in American horror 947 00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:23.599 story Asylum, there's all an array of different mental illness. 948 00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:27.559 It's like a candy shop. You got chronic mess, debaters 949 00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:34.400 and you know, xyz schizophrenia, murderers, blah and girl interrupted. 950 00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:38.800 I would say she's They say she has borderline personality. 951 00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:40.960 Which is a fucking broad term, which is. 952 00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:44.519 Yeah, but I would say like depression obviously, Brittany Murphy 953 00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:47.039 had like incest and like self hen she. 954 00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:49.840 Was it was like a trauma victim. 955 00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:54.119 But and then we have split personality in Fight Club. 956 00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:59.079 What Donny Darko, I mean like schizophrenia. 957 00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:01.880 I think that's what they so in the movie he's 958 00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:07.880 seen a it looks like maybe a privately hired shrink 959 00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:12.880 for the sun. And it seems like when she brings 960 00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:16.199 the parents in that she's hinting at she's afraid he's 961 00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:17.800 slipping into schizophrenia. 962 00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:22.199 So imagine if that's what it's like to have schizophrenia, 963 00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:31.519 I'd kill myself. Okay, if having schizophrenia makes your life, 964 00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:35.079 Donny Darko didn't take the long I. 965 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:40.199 Know, makes you see bunnies that go hello donner burn. 966 00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:44.239 It god so creepy. I mean, think about that. 967 00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:49.199 It wouldn't be pleasant. No, And I do know people 968 00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:52.280 in my own family who start to slip into this 969 00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:59.199 weird almost early dementious slash craziness. And they did men 970 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:05.880 shill themselves. I mean it's the Yeah, dementia isn't schizophrenia. 971 00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:08.599 But they see stuff though my grandma did. She used 972 00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:11.800 to say, she used to tell them maybe mortifying stuff. 973 00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:14.760 Maybe they are more connected than. 974 00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:20.159 The That's what I've always said. The psychiatric Alzheimer's too. 975 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:24.440 Yeah, and Alzheimer's is a form of dementia, but schizophrenia 976 00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:27.079 is kind of its own branch of crazy. Yeah, if 977 00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:29.880 you ask these people, I mean, they try to like 978 00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:32.280 branch everything off and label it and give you a 979 00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:34.039 pill for this and a pill for that. But as 980 00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:36.920 far as like full blown dimension and Alzheimer's, I don't 981 00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:39.639 know that they ever medicate them or do they. 982 00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:44.000 Yes, they do. Why they medicated my grandma and my grandpa. 983 00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:48.119 They said, my grandpa had Alzheimer's. 984 00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:50.920 But just for the dementia, Like I can imagine giving 985 00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:54.360 them a relaxant, but like something to treat the dementia. 986 00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:57.039 They have all kinds of stuff. I'm sure if we 987 00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:00.480 watch Hulu long enough. Obviously men did something for it. 988 00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:03.440 Oh I did. I had a side note when we 989 00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:08.559 were talking about girl interrupted, so just a little set 990 00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:12.679 up Julia and I. I don't know if she's always 991 00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.760 been this way, but I am this way. I hate commercials. 992 00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:19.360 To me, the fucking extra five dollars or whatever you 993 00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:23.519 have to play on Hulu or whatever platform using did 994 00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:26.199 not get the commercials. But now it's like Amazon Primes 995 00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:28.800 got them, but we had to go to Tubi to 996 00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:32.159 watch Girl Interrupted. And it's great because it's free, but 997 00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:38.079 the ads are like every overwhelming, and I would say 998 00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:42.519 seventy five percent of them were like pharmacies, pharmaceutical shit. 999 00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:45.800 And well, we saw this one called like Viklars doll 1000 00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:49.480 clar and it was Julia called it a booster for 1001 00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:51.679 other SSRIs because. 1002 00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:54.840 What's called anti depressive butster. 1003 00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:58.800 What really stuck out to me was when they said 1004 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:06.039 suicidal tendencies, especially in children or young adults. I was like, 1005 00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:07.719 first of all, why are you putting kids on this shit? 1006 00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:11.360 Secondly that you know that it fucking causes young people 1007 00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:14.679 to want to kill themselves, and then it enlisted these 1008 00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:18.599 god awful fucking side effects. It took like thirty seconds 1009 00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:23.000 to list, and they said they said it's common, these 1010 00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:26.440 are common, thanks are, And they didn't even speed it 1011 00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:28.199 up like some of them do. They're just saying it 1012 00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:31.719 in like an NPR voice and there's butterflies floating around, yeall, No, 1013 00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:36.599 the's chestnuts. Yeah. Anyway, I just thought it was very 1014 00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:40.599 fitting that we're watching Girl Interrupted and we're being interrupted 1015 00:59:40.639 --> 00:59:44.199 and bombarded with pharmaceutical commercials for people who need mental 1016 00:59:44.320 --> 00:59:45.440 fucking fixes. 1017 00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:50.719 They have gone so far as to say, oh, you're 1018 00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.480 taking your antidepressant and it's still not working. Here's an 1019 00:59:54.519 --> 00:59:56.400 anti depress it. 1020 00:59:56.920 --> 01:00:02.159 Booster boosters are fucking the new normal. Baby. Well you know, 1021 01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:04.559 if you're up in Canada, they do it the right way. 1022 01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:07.199 They're just like, why don't you just kill yourself? Well help? 1023 01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:11.639 I just can't imagine like somebody saying, instead of trying 1024 01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:15.199 something else, we're gonna keep you on your antidepressant and 1025 01:00:15.320 --> 01:00:16.920 we're gonna add you a booster. 1026 01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:24.519 Indeed, all right, Julia's second choice is as good as 1027 01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:25.079 it gets. 1028 01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:29.719 Oh boy, I forgot that was my second draft. 1029 01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:33.840 Pick open his curtains for him so he can see 1030 01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:38.880 God's beautiful work and he'll know that even things like 1031 01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:40.199 this happen for the best. 1032 01:00:41.119 --> 01:00:42.599 What do they teach you to talk like this? 1033 01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:45.400 In some Panama City sailor want to hump hump bar 1034 01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:47.360 sell crazy someplace else? 1035 01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:49.000 We're all stocked up here. 1036 01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:55.400 Try Star Pictures invites you to meet a truly appalling individual. 1037 01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:56.719 He's a freak show. 1038 01:00:56.800 --> 01:00:59.280 He's the worst person I ever met. 1039 01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:01.480 If you want to you want to make an appointment 1040 01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:04.199 doctor Green, How can you diagnose someone as an obsessive 1041 01:01:04.239 --> 01:01:06.760 compulsive disorder, and then act as though I had some 1042 01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:10.480 choice about Barginghi, you have. 1043 01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:12.800 Messed your last floor. 1044 01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:17.639 You have you seen my dog with a little little 1045 01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:18.679 face little uh oh? 1046 01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:22.199 You have no idea what your work means to me? 1047 01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:24.079 How do you write women so well? 1048 01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:27.480 I think of a man and I take away reason 1049 01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:31.719 and accountability. 1050 01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:33.239 Shut up, kid. 1051 01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:36.719 Definitely a package you don't want to open or touch. 1052 01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:40.840 I love you, I tell you, buddy, I'd be the 1053 01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:44.760 luckiest guy alive if that did it for me as 1054 01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:45.800 good as it gets. 1055 01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:53.159 So this one is kind of on the lighter side 1056 01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:56.519 of mental illness in my opinion, because you don't have 1057 01:01:56.559 --> 01:02:00.119 to be locked up somewhere if you have OCD y 1058 01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:04.960 lucky for you and right. I have, always since I 1059 01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:10.239 was a kid, struggled with obsessive tendencies. 1060 01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:14.039 I think it's common more and more as time goes by, 1061 01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:20.119 because our society is so loud and overwhelming and demanding 1062 01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:22.920 of your attention at all times. So I do think 1063 01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:27.119 that normal people will get a little obsessive of having 1064 01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:34.119 to live in are ever technologically expanding, fucking society, which 1065 01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:37.159 makes me really worried about kids today. 1066 01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:41.000 It makes me worried because if if our baby is 1067 01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:50.320 anything like me, I'm gonna know, like if he has 1068 01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:53.599 like ticks what are they called ticks. 1069 01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:56.880 Like Jack Nicholson in this movie. 1070 01:02:57.079 --> 01:02:59.679 Yeah, it's kind of it'll be sad because I know 1071 01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:03.800 how how it felt when I was little, like I 1072 01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:08.199 always had to have some sense of control over my environment. 1073 01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:12.840 But maybe that's because I had a psychopath for a father, 1074 01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:16.119 but I always felt like I needed to have a 1075 01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:19.199 little bit of control over my surroundings. 1076 01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:24.880 Yeah, well, you went on Deplorable Janet, Yeah, Deplorable Nation, 1077 01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:29.280 shout out Janet, we love you. You went on her show, 1078 01:03:29.320 --> 01:03:32.199 and she actually said that to you, like, you know, 1079 01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:36.559 you had to control your situation with the way you're 1080 01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:41.679 brought up, lack of guidance, lack of an adult presence, 1081 01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:46.159 and then like just there's so much else going on 1082 01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:49.039 that can add to that once the foundation is laid. 1083 01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:54.320 But I would say it's definitely common a lot of 1084 01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:57.880 anxiety and obsessive traits to kind of go hand in 1085 01:03:57.920 --> 01:03:58.719 hand to well. 1086 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:01.320 And I just want to make this clear because I 1087 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:05.159 feel like people and we're gonna maybe tie this into 1088 01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:11.199 the end of the episode, but the fetishization of mental illness. 1089 01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:15.119 Oh CD does not mean you like to have all 1090 01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:19.519 your spoons in one drawer and all of your it can. 1091 01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:23.480 But for me, I wanted to have a sense of 1092 01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:27.079 control over my environment. But also I had obsessive thoughts 1093 01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:30.920 that everyone I loved was gonna die. I would obsess 1094 01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:34.559 over how they were going to die, to the point 1095 01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:38.400 where I would like make myself cry or like have 1096 01:04:38.559 --> 01:04:43.000 nightmares that everybody I loved was gonna die horribly and 1097 01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:44.639 I was gonna die. 1098 01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:49.599 Our kid is fucked because both parents. I used to 1099 01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:54.920 lay awake in bed night after night dreaming up misery, yeah, 1100 01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:58.840 and impending, not just potential misery. As soon as I 1101 01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:02.880 found out that eventual, even if she stayed healthy forever, 1102 01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:06.800 she would die. One day when I was like five, Yeah, 1103 01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:09.760 I laid in bed and then like, like you're saying, 1104 01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:15.119 just any fucking bad thing that will happen eventually or 1105 01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:17.719 things that could happen. That's a whole other category. 1106 01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:23.079 That's part of obsessive compulsive disorder. Though I always when 1107 01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:26.800 I watched As Good as It Gets, I always identified 1108 01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:29.880 with Jack Nicholson because yeah, he has to turn the 1109 01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:32.440 lock three times or whatever, and I never had to 1110 01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:32.840 do that. 1111 01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:37.519 But well, when they portray obsessive compulsive disorder in movies, 1112 01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:42.719 it's a good trope. It's visual, can't step on cracks, 1113 01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:47.000 has to count certain things they do, has to have 1114 01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:50.280 their salt shakers and pepper shakers in a certain order. 1115 01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:53.360 All that stuff is great for film, But like you're saying, 1116 01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:57.400 there's this whole other list of I don't know what 1117 01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:59.199 would you call him, not side effects, but. 1118 01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:05.039 Kind of like the the actual suffering part of like 1119 01:06:05.159 --> 01:06:08.159 what goes on inside the mind when you have obsessive 1120 01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:12.039 compulsive disorder. Because the reason why you might bring your 1121 01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:14.599 salt and pepper shaker with you is because you think 1122 01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:19.599 everybody's going to poison you. Like, that's the mental part 1123 01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:21.880 of it that you don't see, is like, oh, they 1124 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:24.280 have to have their own salt and pepper. Actually they 1125 01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:27.119 think they're gonna die if they use their restaurant salt 1126 01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:29.119 and peppers, so they'll bring it with them, you know 1127 01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:29.519 what I mean. 1128 01:06:29.639 --> 01:06:34.760 Yeah, it's also like you can bring germophobia into OCD. 1129 01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:39.159 There's a few honorable mentions that I have that had 1130 01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:40.840 just come to mind, So I think if we think 1131 01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:42.559 of them, we can shout them out instead of doing 1132 01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:45.599 it at the end, which we'll have plenty, But it 1133 01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:49.599 makes me think of match Stick Men with Nick Cage 1134 01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:53.000 having OCD. But the other one that I haven't thought 1135 01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:55.480 about until just now, I me and you both love it. 1136 01:06:55.480 --> 01:06:58.079 It's a comedy. What What About Bob? 1137 01:06:58.360 --> 01:06:58.559 Oh? 1138 01:06:58.599 --> 01:06:59.039 My god? 1139 01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.000 Yeah, I mean I almost think that if if we 1140 01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:04.239 had thought of that, it probably would have made at 1141 01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:05.280 least one of our lists. 1142 01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:07.599 Well, for sure, I love that movie. 1143 01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:10.440 But what About Bob? Is on the lighter side, much 1144 01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:12.920 like As Good as It Gets? But I really I 1145 01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:16.960 think What About Bob is a better movie. I struggle. 1146 01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:18.960 I struggle with as Good as It Gets, And we'll 1147 01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:21.800 get into that after Julia has done talking about about it. 1148 01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:25.920 But yeah, what about Bob? He's got the same shit 1149 01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:28.280 going on and they do really make light of it. 1150 01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:32.920 And as good as it gets, it's not really a comedy. 1151 01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:35.079 It's like a romantic comedy, but it's more like a 1152 01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:39.599 romantic dramedy because there are funny parts. There's funny there's 1153 01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:44.199 endearing characters. Greg Kinnear playing the gay guy that gets 1154 01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:46.760 beat up that he actually takes his dog and kind 1155 01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:50.320 of breaks breaks his routine, and all that, but yeah, 1156 01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:52.280 you keep going with your thoughts on it. 1157 01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:54.920 Well, my thoughts on it is that it's one of 1158 01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:58.159 my favorite movies. I'm not gonna say it's top five 1159 01:07:58.280 --> 01:08:01.199 or anything, but if I had to like ten to 1160 01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:05.000 fifteen movies, it would be in there. And it's because 1161 01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:08.400 and you know, I've often wondered if the tendency to 1162 01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:11.480 just like blurt shit out that you're not supposed to 1163 01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:13.679 say comes from having obsessive thoughts. 1164 01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:15.559 It's a part of a control mechanism. 1165 01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:17.479 Because you even brought it up the other day because 1166 01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:19.560 I was talking to my doctor and I'll just like 1167 01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:22.199 say random off the wall shit and You're like, most 1168 01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:24.279 people wouldn't say that to their doctor, and it's like, 1169 01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:24.720 I can't. 1170 01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:27.000 Well, let's let's let the audience decide. 1171 01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.079 I told her, I have thunder pulls. 1172 01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:33.720 No, let's talk about the first one. She had to 1173 01:08:33.720 --> 01:08:36.720 get tested. Everybody gets tested for butthole strap. 1174 01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:39.680 Yeah, it's pussing buttthole strap. 1175 01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:45.239 And she handed Julia, I actually highly regret missing this appointment. 1176 01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:48.039 Sometimes my work schedule is such that I can't go 1177 01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:50.720 to all of them. And I, yeah, we very frequently. 1178 01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:53.920 Was She handed Julia the butthole q tip And you 1179 01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:56.000 know how Julia loves the word beetles. She said, how 1180 01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:57.800 far do I have to shove this up my beople? 1181 01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:02.239 And the doctor, who's very straight laced, lost it, right. 1182 01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:06.840 She laughed her ass off. Just the tip, she said, 1183 01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:10.239 just the tip. It was a long ass. It was 1184 01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:13.800 probably like at least I would say it's at least 1185 01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:17.600 a foot long subway sub of a swab. And she said, 1186 01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:18.119 but just. 1187 01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:21.199 The tip is the just the tip is the cotton 1188 01:09:21.239 --> 01:09:22.119 part right right? 1189 01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:27.159 But she said halfway into the vagina. And then I said, yes. 1190 01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:28.880 Hell, was that a six inch er? 1191 01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:31.840 It was a foot long subway sub. 1192 01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:35.399 So you're getting up into the cervical region apparently. 1193 01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:38.560 And so I was like, okay, if I got to 1194 01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:40.000 go that far in the puss. 1195 01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:42.000 Now I understand when you asked. 1196 01:09:42.079 --> 01:09:44.640 Hupping this up my b hole? And she said, just. 1197 01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:46.960 The tips, after laughing her ass off. 1198 01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:50.199 Yeah. And then the second appointment, I said, I've been 1199 01:09:50.239 --> 01:09:53.600 having a lot of thunder puss and she was like, oh, 1200 01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:58.520 lightning crutch and I was like, yeah, whatever. But I 1201 01:09:58.600 --> 01:10:02.600 mean I've often wondered if I blurt shit out like 1202 01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:06.199 that because I'm a sagittarius or because I have obsessive. 1203 01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:08.279 It's just because it's just because you're you. 1204 01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:10.119 It's just a me thing. 1205 01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:14.159 We could attribute it to the self diagnoses you've done. 1206 01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:18.279 I don't know that you're OCD, Like finically, are you. 1207 01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:21.319 They said that when I was little before, they did 1208 01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:24.439 say it, yeah, because I like I had all my barbies, 1209 01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:26.840 had to be a certain way and all my stuff, 1210 01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:29.920 and like, yeah, I would. I would freak out and 1211 01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:33.119 go to the nurse at school and they'd say, what's 1212 01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:34.880 wrong with you? And I'd say, I think my mom's 1213 01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:38.279 gonna die, and then they would let me call her 1214 01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:40.319 because I would just have a freak out in the 1215 01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:42.880 middle of the day thinking about like I'm at school 1216 01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:46.800 right now, my mom's probably dead somewhere. I'm serious. 1217 01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:50.319 It's not funny, but I do relate to a lot 1218 01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:50.600 of it. 1219 01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:52.760 Yeah, I mean I was fucked up. 1220 01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:55.479 Yeah, it's uh. 1221 01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:58.159 This movie has so many gems. 1222 01:10:58.720 --> 01:11:04.479 Come on, well, I would say that when it came out, 1223 01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:08.960 it was very well received and it did shine a 1224 01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:11.560 light on these mental illness things in the way that 1225 01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:13.439 a lot of movies have done since. I mean, there's 1226 01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:15.039 been movies that did it before this. 1227 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:19.479 Uh, how about people who speak in metaphors out of 1228 01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:20.720 shampoo my crotch? 1229 01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:26.600 Yeah? Jack Nicholson's character, what's his name in it? Melvin 1230 01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:30.479 Melvin Udahl does have some very good one liners in this. 1231 01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.279 He's a writer and he's like at a meeting with 1232 01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:35.479 a publisher or something, and the woman at the front 1233 01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:38.560 desk is a fan of his and asks, how do 1234 01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:41.680 you write? He writes all of his books through a 1235 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.800 first person female perspective, it seems, and she asks how 1236 01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:46.920 he writes women so well, and he says it's easy. 1237 01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:52.079 I just take away reason and accountability. Right, good line. 1238 01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:54.880 There are a million great one liners in this. 1239 01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:58.520 You're gonna say that's a good line. Yeah, I didn't 1240 01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:01.800 poke you a little bit. You think women lack reason 1241 01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:06.520 and accountability? Sometimes that's a broad stroke, I'd say so, 1242 01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:07.920 saw a lot of men do too. 1243 01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:11.199 Besides, you make me want to be a better man. 1244 01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:14.079 And all that grossest line in the movie. 1245 01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:16.880 When they're in the car and he's like, I hope 1246 01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:20.800 your dad hands you another big sweaty ball. I don't know. 1247 01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:22.000 There are just so many. 1248 01:12:22.039 --> 01:12:26.920 Well, he has some pretty good homophobic remarks towards the 1249 01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:30.920 gay neighbor the Gaber. I would say that this movie 1250 01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:33.800 was like for its time, It got away with a 1251 01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:36.119 lot of stuff that you wouldn't see in like a 1252 01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:42.359 blockbuster Academy Award winning hit. It does. It's not woke 1253 01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:43.520 by any sense. 1254 01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:46.600 Now took the imagination and it has the guy in 1255 01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:47.880 it from Scream. 1256 01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:51.960 Does have skeetle Rick in it. Yeah, there's what you 1257 01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.960 think is a gay guy modeling for the for Greg 1258 01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:57.880 Kinnear's character and they end up jumping him and kicking 1259 01:12:57.880 --> 01:12:58.560 his ass. 1260 01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:03.840 But anyways, I think it is a great love story 1261 01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:06.800 and you don't, so I guess that's where we can 1262 01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:08.279 debate on this. 1263 01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:12.319 Yeah, the whole movie to me is about, you know, 1264 01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:15.920 being completed by another person. Is the element that Jerry 1265 01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:19.000 maguire explored. And this one is you make me want 1266 01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:21.000 to be a better man. You know that one line. 1267 01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:24.680 But if you watch the scene where they're having dinner 1268 01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:28.359 and he's just being a fucking asshole to her for 1269 01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:31.920 this whole conversation because he's so frustrated that he can't 1270 01:13:31.960 --> 01:13:36.600 tell her how he feels, and he tells her, I 1271 01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:41.359 stopped taking my medication and then he says it's because 1272 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:43.439 of her. You make me want to be a better man. 1273 01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:48.439 He said, he started, okay, taking the medication. 1274 01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:50.119 Started taking it. 1275 01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:51.159 Yes, okay. 1276 01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:54.079 That to me is even worse because. 1277 01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:57.439 He said, I hate pills, right, And she said okay, 1278 01:13:57.479 --> 01:14:01.239 and he's like, and I mean hate and he said 1279 01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:04.880 that day something I talked to you, and I started 1280 01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:07.880 taking the pills. And she's like okay, and he says, 1281 01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:09.560 you make me want to be a better man. 1282 01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:09.840 Yeah. 1283 01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:11.439 When I first saw this movie, I just kind of 1284 01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:13.840 thought that was like cheesy, throwaway shit, and now I 1285 01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:16.279 think it's even I don't know. To me, it's not 1286 01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:19.359 a real love story, as most of these stories that 1287 01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:21.680 are supposed to be love stories are not love stories. 1288 01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:23.119 Not a love story. 1289 01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:32.039 Because it's an inflated notion of other people being responsible 1290 01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:35.520 for your overall being. And she's if we were to 1291 01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:38.760 watch this movie and it was like ten hours long 1292 01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:40.920 by the time we got to the end of the movie. 1293 01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:44.720 He's fucked her over several times, and he's blamed his 1294 01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:47.960 condition and she has to accept him for how he is, 1295 01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:49.680 which you would if you were to get into a 1296 01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:52.840 relationship with something like that. But I just, to me, 1297 01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:56.359 it's not it's like Chuck Paulink nook for a circle 1298 01:14:56.359 --> 01:14:58.920 back moment. He had a quote that I love is 1299 01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.279 happy and needs to just depend on where you draw 1300 01:15:02.319 --> 01:15:05.920 the curtain. And I think that that was a good 1301 01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:09.760 moment to draw the curtain. The ass whole misogynist is 1302 01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:17.119 throwing his life into this younger woman's lap. You make 1303 01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:18.239 me want to be a better man. 1304 01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:23.239 I just as good as it gets. I think it's 1305 01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:29.520 a realistic love story. I think that knowing her love 1306 01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:34.119 in his way. Okay, he did all that stuff for 1307 01:15:34.159 --> 01:15:34.680 her son. 1308 01:15:36.439 --> 01:15:39.359 Yeah, he's trying to buy her favor. I don't think 1309 01:15:39.399 --> 01:15:42.800 the character is endearing. I never do. 1310 01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:45.359 I think he takes the gay guy in. 1311 01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:50.520 Yeah, he has a moments carry the dog being very resentful, 1312 01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:52.319 but that's like. 1313 01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:53.199 Some real life shit. 1314 01:15:53.319 --> 01:15:56.800 You might be resimbleful, and most characters in real life 1315 01:15:56.800 --> 01:16:00.880 aren't good people. They might have good moments that This is. 1316 01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:05.359 Realistic, of course, and it could be a realistic love story. 1317 01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:08.079 I don't hate the movie. I don't think it's like 1318 01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:10.720 an example of what love is it should be. 1319 01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:14.079 I'm sorry, but you are in a relationship with someone 1320 01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:18.319 who is very particular, and you, I know. 1321 01:16:18.520 --> 01:16:20.079 Do I make you want to be a better woman? 1322 01:16:22.520 --> 01:16:24.199 I think we make each other better. 1323 01:16:24.760 --> 01:16:27.800 Sure, but I'm not putting that responsibility on you either. 1324 01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:32.359 I'm saying, babe, that people are fucked up in the 1325 01:16:32.399 --> 01:16:35.119 head and when they get with another person, it's not 1326 01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:36.000 the notebook. 1327 01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:40.319 See, it's just it's not It's the same issue I 1328 01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:43.560 have with you. Complete me from Jerry Maguire, which I 1329 01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:48.880 did mention earlier. But it's not what love is. It's 1330 01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:52.720 a Hollywood love and this movie did very well on Hollywood. 1331 01:16:53.000 --> 01:17:00.560 And you don't think that it showed how dysfunctional relationships. 1332 01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:03.479 Can well, yeah, sure, but I don't think that's like 1333 01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:07.079 the love story we should put on a pedestal. I 1334 01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:12.359 think anction a dysfunctional relationship is realistic. In fact, you 1335 01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:15.520 can't have a one hundred functional relationship if it's a 1336 01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:18.479 real relationship. You know, people pull it off because they 1337 01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:24.520 treat each other like roommates that they tolerate. But a 1338 01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:31.399 real love story doesn't have to be about sacrifice or. 1339 01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:37.079 So you're saying she's sacrificing because he's fucked up. 1340 01:17:40.199 --> 01:17:42.920 That's her decision to make. But I don't think it's 1341 01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:47.920 a shining beacon of what love is. And the and 1342 01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:51.319 the the context just pre anybody who thinks I'm being 1343 01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:55.520 an asshole, that's fine, but watch if you disagree, watch 1344 01:17:55.600 --> 01:17:59.279 the last scene with them together at the dinner table 1345 01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:02.680 where he says the line, and the whole context of 1346 01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:05.840 the conversation. I just I didn't really like I said. 1347 01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:08.399 It was like when I watched it years later that 1348 01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:11.279 I kind of walked away thinking differently of it. 1349 01:18:12.840 --> 01:18:14.199 Maybe you should watch it again. 1350 01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:19.680 I guess I have seen it a handful of times, And. 1351 01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:22.479 I was gonna say, because I'm sure I'll watch it 1352 01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:25.159 at some point, or make you watch it again at 1353 01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:27.680 some point, because I do love it very much. 1354 01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:30.319 You hear that she makes me watch things. 1355 01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:33.720 Well, I was just gonna say, I we. 1356 01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:34.960 Take turns picking movies. 1357 01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:39.239 Yeah, I'm not as bad as Jack Nicholson, but I just, 1358 01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:44.159 you know, I don't think she's necessarily sacrificing to have 1359 01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:46.199 to be with him. I think he's actually like. 1360 01:18:46.199 --> 01:18:49.479 Well, that wasn't even my bigger point. If you want 1361 01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:53.439 to sacrifice and it's worth it to you, that can 1362 01:18:53.479 --> 01:18:55.279 be part of a love story for sure. 1363 01:18:55.680 --> 01:18:59.039 Like how I organize the bathroom cabinet. 1364 01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:05.359 I'm getting this. Yes, you are so attached to this 1365 01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:08.199 character that me not like in this movie, you're taking 1366 01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:10.279 it personally. No, I'm saying. 1367 01:19:10.359 --> 01:19:14.119 I'm saying it's you. When I got all those fucking 1368 01:19:14.279 --> 01:19:17.159 buckets from the dollar store and went through our entire 1369 01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:20.640 bathroom cabinets and organized everything and put it in baskets, 1370 01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:23.600 and like, if you don't put something in the basket, 1371 01:19:23.760 --> 01:19:25.479 or you put it in the wrong basket, and I 1372 01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:27.239 go behind you and I take it out of that 1373 01:19:27.319 --> 01:19:30.640 basket and put it in its proper basket. I'm just saying, 1374 01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:34.760 people have hang ups, relationships are weird, and you're very 1375 01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:37.319 gracious towards me and all my little. 1376 01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:41.960 Particular Well, I'm an unorganized motherfucker. Look at the state 1377 01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:43.159 of the house when you moved in. 1378 01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:47.039 Just saying you've been very gracious towards me, as Helen 1379 01:19:47.119 --> 01:19:49.119 Hunt was towards Jack Nicholson. 1380 01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:54.359 Uh, okay, but I don't see you like throwing fits 1381 01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:55.680 if things aren't the way. 1382 01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:58.000 You want it, I suffer in silence. 1383 01:19:58.079 --> 01:19:58.960 Okay, well, thank you. 1384 01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:02.199 But anyways, yeah, this you accept me. 1385 01:20:02.119 --> 01:20:04.720 As a person who doesn't shut cabinets when I'm done 1386 01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:08.720 reaching in, and yeah you accept me, I accept you, 1387 01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:11.039 and neither one of us is sacrificing a whole hell 1388 01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:13.520 of a lot by accepting each other. You don't have 1389 01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:18.520 to sometimes you do. I just don't think this is 1390 01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:19.279 our love story. 1391 01:20:19.960 --> 01:20:22.079 I wouldn't say it's our love story, but I would 1392 01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:25.720 just say, as far as realistic, like one of them's 1393 01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:27.000 fucked up in the other. 1394 01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:30.760 One, everybody's fucked up. Yeah, that should be the name 1395 01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:32.399 of the movie. Everybody's fucked up. 1396 01:20:32.439 --> 01:20:33.399 Everybody's fucked up. 1397 01:20:33.479 --> 01:20:33.680 Yeah. 1398 01:20:33.720 --> 01:20:35.560 This is as good as it gets in parentheses. 1399 01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:40.039 Yeah, so this one. I picked this one because it's 1400 01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:44.199 a mild form of mental illness as far as mental 1401 01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:51.199 illness goes. But uh cookes ten out of ten cooks 1402 01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:51.479 for me. 1403 01:20:52.479 --> 01:20:57.000 I'm gonna give it a five. Wow, always look on. 1404 01:20:57.239 --> 01:20:59.960 The right side of your life. 1405 01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:02.399 I don't think this picks up whistling. 1406 01:21:03.880 --> 01:21:08.960 So we've got we've covered almost all of the different 1407 01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:11.199 types of mental illness. What's next on them? 1408 01:21:11.239 --> 01:21:15.399 Well, we're on pick three for you, which is psycho. 1409 01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:19.279 Psycho. 1410 01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:28.840 Here we have a quiet little motel, when in fact 1411 01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:33.119 it has now become known as the scene of the crime. 1412 01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:36.880 Do you have a vacancy? Oh, we have twelve vacancies. 1413 01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:40.840 None is the first place. It looks like it's hiding 1414 01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:48.000 from the world. I think that we're all in our 1415 01:21:48.039 --> 01:21:59.159 private traps, clamped in them, and none of us can 1416 01:21:59.159 --> 01:21:59.680 ever get up. 1417 01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:15.600 She wouldn't even have a fly. And you know, this 1418 01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:18.079 could be any rendition of it. It could be the 1419 01:22:18.119 --> 01:22:19.479 original Psycho. 1420 01:22:19.359 --> 01:22:21.560 Gus Van Sant with fucking Vince Bond. 1421 01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:26.000 Vince Vaughan, it could be Baits Motel. I'm down for 1422 01:22:26.079 --> 01:22:30.199 any of them, right. I tried, really tried to get 1423 01:22:30.199 --> 01:22:31.199 into Baits Motel. 1424 01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:34.279 I stopped watching it at the end of season two 1425 01:22:34.399 --> 01:22:36.680 just because it was current, and I have never gone 1426 01:22:36.680 --> 01:22:40.039 back to it when they kept going, But I would. 1427 01:22:41.039 --> 01:22:44.840 I like that kid who was in some movies when 1428 01:22:44.840 --> 01:22:48.840 he was younger, like he was in that Neverland Finding Neverland. 1429 01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:52.039 Yeah, but talking about mental illness, he's in that Good 1430 01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:54.560 Doctor show where he has severe autism. 1431 01:22:55.279 --> 01:22:56.520 Yeah. I've never watched that. 1432 01:22:56.600 --> 01:22:58.399 I've watched like five seasons of it. 1433 01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:03.520 But yeah, the Bates Motel I thought was very well done. Yeah, 1434 01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:06.880 of course I love the Hitchcocks I go. I thought 1435 01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:09.760 it was interesting enough to watch all the way through 1436 01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:13.079 the Gus Van Sant rendition with Vince Vaughan playing Norman Bates. 1437 01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:14.279 But I enjoyed it. 1438 01:23:14.319 --> 01:23:15.680 I don't know what the point was. 1439 01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:20.680 I don't either, other than they just did it. 1440 01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:24.720 It just was like almost shot for shot, word for word. 1441 01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:30.359 The only difference is it's in color. And Vince Vaughan, well, 1442 01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:31.760 they had to update the actors. 1443 01:23:31.840 --> 01:23:33.680 But I'm just saying it was interesting. 1444 01:23:34.399 --> 01:23:38.279 Yeah. For him, he was doing mainly bad guy roles 1445 01:23:38.359 --> 01:23:41.239 and then he slid into comedy. But somewhere in between 1446 01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:44.279 there he was picked to play Norman Bates, which was 1447 01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:50.479 a fucking reaching for a goddamn sleeper. As far as 1448 01:23:50.520 --> 01:23:52.399 all the actors that would have wanted to do that role, 1449 01:23:52.439 --> 01:23:54.640 they got Vince Vaughan. He was nobody really back then. 1450 01:23:55.000 --> 01:24:01.039 Interesting, But don't you feel like they incorporated aspect of 1451 01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:07.399 Norman Bates into American horror story Asylum with Doctor Threadson 1452 01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:11.439 with his weird mommy thing that he had going. So 1453 01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:14.800 would you say that Norman Bates because we'll spare everyone. 1454 01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:17.800 If you don't, if you haven't watched a rendition of 1455 01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:21.520 Psycho yet, then fuck you. I mean, whoa, this is 1456 01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:22.760 cosmic peach pot. 1457 01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:26.279 Some people don't get around to every movie. 1458 01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:30.279 Psycho in some form. Everybody knows the story. 1459 01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:32.960 And if not, fuck you, And if not, you that's 1460 01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:36.159 not me saying that you're welcome to watch it or 1461 01:24:36.199 --> 01:24:39.439 not watch it, but you should at it's worth watching, 1462 01:24:40.920 --> 01:24:46.720 know the premise. Of course it's been. There's been so 1463 01:24:46.800 --> 01:24:49.199 many tips of the hat throughout pop culture. I think 1464 01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:55.359 there's even a family guy. Yes, it's just everywhere, shower scene, iconic. 1465 01:24:55.800 --> 01:24:58.479 BIG's adermy stuff big. 1466 01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:01.359 In nice Shyamalan style twist, which actually I should just 1467 01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:05.319 say Alfred Hitchcock style twist because he is the master 1468 01:25:05.399 --> 01:25:10.880 of the twist. And yeah, all of it. It's the 1469 01:25:10.920 --> 01:25:12.560 fight club kind of thing going. 1470 01:25:12.399 --> 01:25:17.399 On in Split Personality. It's do you think he was 1471 01:25:17.439 --> 01:25:21.079 incestuous with his mom or what I mean? 1472 01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:26.159 I don't think that was really thought about much, unless 1473 01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:30.039 you know back then dressed up as well. It's supposed 1474 01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:37.000 to be ed Gain No, Yes, the three major pillars 1475 01:25:37.039 --> 01:25:41.800 of ed Gain is it gainer Gane? I always say, well, 1476 01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:48.680 he was the inspiration for Psycho Texas, Chainsawn Mashtacre and 1477 01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:52.560 Silence the Lambs. Yeah, so there's elements of the mother. 1478 01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:55.680 He doesn't go as far as wearing skin suits, but 1479 01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:59.479 he does dress up as it puts on what it had. 1480 01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:05.560 It been inspiration for Friday the thirteenth. I'm not sure 1481 01:26:06.119 --> 01:26:08.119 with the mom remember kill him? 1482 01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:11.840 Yeah, I mean I think that it's like, what year 1483 01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:15.960 was ed Gian fuck? Bro Cook? 1484 01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:18.640 Well, they got they talking about that, they got a 1485 01:26:18.680 --> 01:26:21.760 show coming out I'm gonna fucking stoked thiss fuck to 1486 01:26:21.840 --> 01:26:23.199 watch on. 1487 01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:28.199 Netflix fifty seven, So we're talking a two year difference. 1488 01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:32.399 I think Hitchcock probably got read on that script. 1489 01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:37.279 Wow, why does it say ed Gean also known as 1490 01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:40.479 the Butcher of playing Field or the plain Field ghoul. 1491 01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:43.600 Nobody says that if you said ed. 1492 01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:47.439 Gian, maybe back when he was active or whatever was 1493 01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:49.840 going on, he had a moniker. 1494 01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:54.920 Well nobody uses those monikers, like if you even the 1495 01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:56.319 show that they're. 1496 01:26:56.199 --> 01:26:58.560 I've heard the Butcher of playing Field, but I didn't 1497 01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:01.800 know it was him. So you're making a point like yeah, 1498 01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:04.000 and he's you know, you and I are both huge 1499 01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:10.399 fans of the serial killer stuff that McGowan uncovered and 1500 01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:14.800 programmed to kill. I've never myself done a huge deep 1501 01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:18.439 dive into ed Gain, but anyway, a tangent decided he 1502 01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:22.720 was the basis for Psycho or for Norman Bates and 1503 01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:25.239 a couple others notable. 1504 01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:30.439 At the end of the first Psycho Alfred Hitchcock. They 1505 01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:32.840 have him in the police station and he's dressed like 1506 01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:35.960 his fucking mom, and shit, I let. 1507 01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:38.920 Him even I think she doesn't even want to harm 1508 01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:39.359 that fly. 1509 01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:42.840 Yeah, but the funniest part to me is when the 1510 01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:48.039 cops are talking to the psychiatrist and the psychiatrist is like, 1511 01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:50.000 I know what's wrong with him, and the cops like 1512 01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:55.199 he's a transvestite, and he's like, uh no. 1513 01:27:56.640 --> 01:28:01.880 No, but yes, yes, but no, it's much more than that. 1514 01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:05.880 But anyways, I always laughed at that part because he's 1515 01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:12.439 like he's a transvestite. We were actually thinking about doing 1516 01:28:12.479 --> 01:28:15.960 a bonus episode on serial killers who spent a lot 1517 01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:21.760 of time in mental institutions because a lot like prisons 1518 01:28:22.880 --> 01:28:27.439 and military I do think that they look for a 1519 01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:32.840 certain type of psychopath that would be beneficial in these 1520 01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:36.039 programs in mental institutions as well. 1521 01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:39.439 Yeah, and this would be a Patreon thing. And if 1522 01:28:39.479 --> 01:28:42.600 it happens, it's only because Julia has not gone into 1523 01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:46.359 labor right next couple weeks, but that could be something 1524 01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:48.920 to look forward to. I do want to just say 1525 01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:51.159 before we move on from Psycho, that I am finding 1526 01:28:51.159 --> 01:28:57.560 it pretty fucking intense that this event would have shocked 1527 01:28:57.600 --> 01:29:02.159 the nation. Yeah, nineteen fifty seven, And and then this huge 1528 01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:08.359 horror thriller filmmaker does a movie that rocked the world 1529 01:29:08.479 --> 01:29:11.840 only two years later. Yeah, I mean, of course, Hitchcock 1530 01:29:11.960 --> 01:29:14.399 is so established in the industry that you got it. No, 1531 01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:18.359 I mean he's got someone's got their thumb over him, 1532 01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:21.520 and that he Yeah, I didn't even realize how closely 1533 01:29:21.640 --> 01:29:24.479 these two things the you never realized again, and then 1534 01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:29.880 the release of this fucking movie. Okay, so it was base. Okay, 1535 01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:32.640 I might be wrong saying here that the fifty nine 1536 01:29:32.760 --> 01:29:39.000 novel so that the novel was written two years later. Yeah, 1537 01:29:39.119 --> 01:29:41.960 it came out fifty nine, same year as the novel, 1538 01:29:43.399 --> 01:29:45.479 So I don't know. I find that interesting me. Yeah, No, 1539 01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:48.279 I do give this one, of course, context of the 1540 01:29:48.319 --> 01:29:53.079 time it came out. Even the material today, done in 1541 01:29:53.159 --> 01:29:56.079 the hand or handed to a masterful director would be 1542 01:29:56.159 --> 01:29:57.720 still just as good. I give it a ten. 1543 01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:05.520 Yeah, same ten. What's next on the list? 1544 01:30:07.239 --> 01:30:09.640 Now? We were moving on to my third pick, which 1545 01:30:09.720 --> 01:30:12.640 is something we just watched last night, and we mentioned earlier, 1546 01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:17.079 the two thousand film Memento. 1547 01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:22.840 I guess I've already told you about my condition every 1548 01:30:22.840 --> 01:30:24.079 time I see you. 1549 01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:26.960 You don't remember where you've been or what you've just done. 1550 01:30:27.159 --> 01:30:29.960 I can't make memories. Everything just fades. 1551 01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:33.199 What's the last thing you do? 1552 01:30:33.319 --> 01:30:34.680 Remember? My wife? 1553 01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:36.760 That's sweet dying. 1554 01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:42.199 You really want to get this guy, don't you. My 1555 01:30:42.239 --> 01:30:43.439 wife deserves a vengeance. 1556 01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:47.760 When you find this guy, what are you gonna do? 1557 01:30:47.600 --> 01:30:48.199 You can't. 1558 01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:54.439 Somebody's got to pay, Lenny. Somebody always pays. You have 1559 01:30:54.479 --> 01:30:55.479 to be very careful. 1560 01:30:57.279 --> 01:30:59.039 You wander around playing detective. 1561 01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:02.439 Maybe you should start investigating yourself. 1562 01:31:03.479 --> 01:31:08.199 This guy is so dangerous and he's gonna kill me. 1563 01:31:08.399 --> 01:31:09.800 I want my life back. 1564 01:31:09.960 --> 01:31:11.279 I think someone's trying to get me to kill the 1565 01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:11.720 wrong guy. 1566 01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:13.000 You can question everything. 1567 01:31:13.039 --> 01:31:13.760 You can never know. 1568 01:31:13.800 --> 01:31:16.439 Anything for sure. There are things you know for sure. 1569 01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:17.600 You can't trust her. 1570 01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:19.319 Even if you. 1571 01:31:19.279 --> 01:31:22.640 Get revenge, you're not gonna remember it. You're not even 1572 01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:24.920 gonna know that it happened. Who did this to you? 1573 01:31:25.079 --> 01:31:25.520 You did? 1574 01:31:28.199 --> 01:31:35.359 You don't know who you are? A lot of people 1575 01:31:35.479 --> 01:31:39.359 consider to be Christopher Nolan's film debut, even though he 1576 01:31:39.399 --> 01:31:43.000 and his brother did a kind of a almost like 1577 01:31:43.079 --> 01:31:46.600 student film level film called The Following before they came 1578 01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:49.319 to the US and started making stuff. But this is 1579 01:31:49.520 --> 01:31:56.199 what brought Christopher Nolan, you know, master director behind Inception, Interstellar, 1580 01:31:57.119 --> 01:32:01.359 just did that movie about the nuclear race, the Manhattan Project. 1581 01:32:01.760 --> 01:32:07.239 What was that called Oppenheimer. Oh, the guy's name, the physicist. 1582 01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:09.640 Well, you know when you told me, you were like, 1583 01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:12.279 I want you to watch this movie. It is called Momento, 1584 01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:19.600 and it's by what Momento whatever you said, it's you know, 1585 01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:24.239 it's Christopher Nolan, fucking inception and da da da. I 1586 01:32:24.319 --> 01:32:25.920 knew it was going to be a mind fuck. 1587 01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:29.359 Yeah. And for those of you who haven't seen the movie, 1588 01:32:29.720 --> 01:32:36.279 it's the main character suffers from severe short term memory loss. 1589 01:32:36.279 --> 01:32:38.399 And we're not talking fifty first dates where he gets 1590 01:32:38.439 --> 01:32:41.079 a whole day. He just gets several minutes at a time. 1591 01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:42.720 I would say twenty minutes. 1592 01:32:43.279 --> 01:32:45.840 Yeah, it's probably something around that because some of the 1593 01:32:45.880 --> 01:32:49.439 scenes he has to like cover some time before he resets. 1594 01:32:49.439 --> 01:32:52.840 So he just resets and the last memory he has 1595 01:32:52.880 --> 01:32:56.520 stored as his wife Dane. He's tracking down the killer, 1596 01:32:57.479 --> 01:33:00.960 leaving himself a series of notes in pleuting tattoos on 1597 01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:04.800 his own body. But then it just turns into almost 1598 01:33:04.880 --> 01:33:10.119 a murder mystery. It's so fucked spoiler alert. You find 1599 01:33:10.119 --> 01:33:14.760 out this guy actually his wife wasn't murdered like he thought. 1600 01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:18.560 She survived this attack where he was given this head 1601 01:33:18.600 --> 01:33:22.159 injury trying to defend her, and that's when his condition started. 1602 01:33:22.760 --> 01:33:25.359 He doesn't know that she lived, and she made him 1603 01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:28.560 kill her with insulin because she thought he would snap 1604 01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:31.479 out of it. He's told himself this whole story that 1605 01:33:31.560 --> 01:33:33.680 it was this other guy that he knew from his 1606 01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:38.680 past life as an insurance claims investigator. Anyway, the movie 1607 01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:43.000 is just brilliantly told backwards. So the first scene of 1608 01:33:43.039 --> 01:33:46.159 the movie is what would be the last scene in 1609 01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:50.960 a chronological movie. And you are on along for the ride. 1610 01:33:51.079 --> 01:33:54.800 You feel like this cur You don't know where you are, 1611 01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:58.239 what's going on until the next scene where it starts 1612 01:33:58.279 --> 01:34:00.600 to builds. 1613 01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:03.560 Even at the end, you're sitting there like, fuck off, 1614 01:34:03.960 --> 01:34:04.840 what the fuck? 1615 01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:08.720 It does turn out that he originally got the guy 1616 01:34:08.760 --> 01:34:11.560 that attacked his wife, but he just keeps doing it 1617 01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:15.399 over and over and killing people, thinking he's tracking down 1618 01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:18.119 He's given him tracking down the killer of his wife. 1619 01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:22.640 He's given himself a purpose, and he even kills people 1620 01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:25.560 that are supposed friends of his on purpose. He sets 1621 01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:28.199 himself up and then forgets that he did it and 1622 01:34:28.840 --> 01:34:31.600 he's basically a serial killer with no memory of being one. 1623 01:34:32.199 --> 01:34:37.000 And granted, I've only seen it one time, and you've 1624 01:34:37.039 --> 01:34:39.720 seen it multiple times, so you have a more rounded 1625 01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:43.800 fucking opinion on the whole shit. But he's not a 1626 01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:44.279 good guy. 1627 01:34:45.840 --> 01:34:48.920 Yeah. And one of the things that the Joe Pantaliano, 1628 01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:52.239 you know, Cipher from the Matrix, he keeps telling him, 1629 01:34:53.479 --> 01:34:56.319 you don't know who you are anymore. You know who 1630 01:34:56.359 --> 01:34:58.439 you were up until the point of your accident, you 1631 01:34:58.439 --> 01:34:59.560 don't know what you've become. 1632 01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:02.399 He's also in all the Bad Boys movies. 1633 01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:05.680 He's their chief, right, Yeah, all right. 1634 01:35:06.239 --> 01:35:10.920 He makes his vodka and pepto. He's like my favorite character. 1635 01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:14.960 But anyways, this movie. 1636 01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:17.119 Makes you feel mentally ill when you want to. 1637 01:35:17.239 --> 01:35:19.439 Yeah, it does make you feel fucked up when you 1638 01:35:19.479 --> 01:35:22.520 watch it. And like I said, I don't think he's 1639 01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:25.119 a good guy. He's murdering indocent people. 1640 01:35:25.560 --> 01:35:28.319 None of them are innocent to you. 1641 01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:31.920 I mean, for me, I go buy the Code of Dexter, 1642 01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:34.880 all right, And none of those people he killed deserve 1643 01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:35.319 to die. 1644 01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:39.960 We don't know that. I'm not like the investigator picking 1645 01:35:40.079 --> 01:35:42.960 up for the guy. I love the movie. I love 1646 01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:47.800 the twist, the whole thing is just loaded with Like 1647 01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:48.520 I was telling. 1648 01:35:48.319 --> 01:35:51.239 You, it's so hard to be married to you, because 1649 01:35:51.239 --> 01:35:54.479 sometimes I'll have a movie in mind that I want 1650 01:35:54.520 --> 01:35:57.399 you to watch, and I'll be so psyched up because 1651 01:35:57.439 --> 01:36:00.399 it'll be like one of my favorite movies, and you're 1652 01:36:00.479 --> 01:36:06.680 just like, eh, it takes an actual fucking like. I 1653 01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:09.039 feel like I need to be committed somewhere after I 1654 01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:11.760 watch the movies that you like to watch. I can't 1655 01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:15.560 just show you what. I can't just show you like 1656 01:36:16.520 --> 01:36:21.359 Evil Dead remakes in horrible movie. Well, I'm just saying 1657 01:36:21.399 --> 01:36:22.560 that was a bad example. 1658 01:36:22.600 --> 01:36:22.960 But like. 1659 01:36:24.439 --> 01:36:26.760 I'll be like, oh, I really like this one. You'll 1660 01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:28.439 probably love it, and then you watch it and you're 1661 01:36:28.520 --> 01:36:30.600 just like, eh, it was all right. And then you 1662 01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:32.720 make me watch this ship and I feel like I 1663 01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:36.520 need to go fucking get on Zaprexa or whatever that 1664 01:36:36.680 --> 01:36:41.079 ship the anti anti depressant booster. 1665 01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:43.800 Well, I'm selective. 1666 01:36:44.720 --> 01:36:47.159 You like things that make you feel like you're on 1667 01:36:47.239 --> 01:36:50.119 a fucking Alice in Wonderland trip. 1668 01:36:50.279 --> 01:36:54.000 I like fucking animal houses, and much as the next guy, 1669 01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:56.199 I can watch a fun movie with no message and 1670 01:36:56.239 --> 01:37:00.319 still enjoy it. And that you know, you say it's 1671 01:37:00.319 --> 01:37:01.960 hard to be married to me because it's hard to 1672 01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:06.880 impress me with movies you like. But I don't think 1673 01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:09.600 anymore or any less of you if you show me 1674 01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:13.520 a movie, I don't call it ten Yeah, but I. 1675 01:37:13.439 --> 01:37:16.439 Feel like it's such an achievement when I pick something 1676 01:37:16.479 --> 01:37:20.560 that you actually like, like Midnight Mass or like The 1677 01:37:20.640 --> 01:37:24.880 Blind Manner or Archive eighty one, something like that, because 1678 01:37:24.920 --> 01:37:28.680 I'll be thinking, ooh, this one's kind of psychological or cerebral. 1679 01:37:28.800 --> 01:37:32.920 I bet he'll like this one. But you can't just 1680 01:37:33.039 --> 01:37:37.319 watch fucking what's one recently that you just thought was 1681 01:37:37.399 --> 01:37:42.920 absolute dog shit? Besides Evil Dead you hated it. 1682 01:37:44.159 --> 01:37:46.800 I don't know we're getting in the weeds here, though. 1683 01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:49.479 I mean we could wrap up Memento. We're making pretty 1684 01:37:49.479 --> 01:37:50.039 good products. 1685 01:37:50.159 --> 01:37:55.000 Saying watching this movie, like all of the movies you like, 1686 01:37:55.560 --> 01:37:57.600 made me feel like I was going down the fucking 1687 01:37:57.680 --> 01:38:03.000 rabbit hole. And if that's what it feels like to 1688 01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:07.439 have short term memory loss again, bang fuck you. I'm 1689 01:38:07.720 --> 01:38:08.720 taking myself out. 1690 01:38:10.199 --> 01:38:11.960 Well. One of the things I like about this movie 1691 01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:17.920 is it's a psychological ride. You understand that if a person, 1692 01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:21.800 even with something this debilitating, can keep themselves driven with 1693 01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:25.720 purpose and can condition themselves despite not having the ability 1694 01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:30.039 to form new memories. It just was I mean, Christopher 1695 01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:34.600 Nolan's brother wrote a short story and that's what this 1696 01:38:34.680 --> 01:38:38.720 movie is based on. Agread that right now. But it's 1697 01:38:39.920 --> 01:38:43.039 it's just so well thought out and layered, and like 1698 01:38:43.079 --> 01:38:46.920 we were talking yesterday, did they write this shit in order? 1699 01:38:47.760 --> 01:38:50.760 And then like this cause like pulp fiction jumping all 1700 01:38:50.760 --> 01:38:53.920 over the place, but this one actually is chronological. It's 1701 01:38:54.039 --> 01:38:55.279 just back front. 1702 01:38:56.279 --> 01:38:58.560 And you know, it made me feel gross when I 1703 01:38:58.600 --> 01:39:01.279 watched it, Like the first time I watched Butterfly Effect. 1704 01:39:03.479 --> 01:39:05.199 Do you remember how you felt the first time you 1705 01:39:05.279 --> 01:39:06.359 watched Butterfly Effects? 1706 01:39:06.439 --> 01:39:10.039 Yeah, it was pretty heavy. Yeah, I don't know, I 1707 01:39:10.039 --> 01:39:13.199 don't see my mento's heavy. It's just a fucking ride. 1708 01:39:13.680 --> 01:39:18.319 It just you can't understand. 1709 01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:21.399 It takes more than one viewing, yeah, for sure. And 1710 01:39:21.520 --> 01:39:24.479 like there's probably half the movies I picked that you 1711 01:39:24.479 --> 01:39:27.000 you've seen once that you probably need to see a 1712 01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:30.239 handful of times before you can really appreciative. 1713 01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:33.680 Birth First, before we start rewatching some shit you picked, 1714 01:39:33.880 --> 01:39:37.199 like Requiem for a Dream, which shout out is an 1715 01:39:37.239 --> 01:39:38.199 honorable mention. 1716 01:39:39.119 --> 01:39:41.960 For a dream. The mom kind of spinning out. I mean, 1717 01:39:43.159 --> 01:39:45.399 you could look at addiction as a mental illness, which 1718 01:39:45.439 --> 01:39:49.239 is a model some people clean to the mom for me, 1719 01:39:49.960 --> 01:39:51.760 like the mom does lose her mind. 1720 01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:56.079 Yeah, because she's taken and she's mixing stuff like her 1721 01:39:56.760 --> 01:40:02.119 antidepressant booster and her all for stuff. But so, Momento, 1722 01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:06.479 are we rating now? I'm gonna give it for me 1723 01:40:06.880 --> 01:40:09.920 first time viewer. I give it ten out of ten 1724 01:40:10.039 --> 01:40:12.560 kukes for how it made me feel, but five out 1725 01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:15.720 of ten kukes for how it made me feel. 1726 01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:18.760 So let's go seven point five, dude. 1727 01:40:18.520 --> 01:40:19.960 Seven point five kooks. 1728 01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:24.119 Ten for me. Ten is a fucking overall movie and 1729 01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:27.239 ten as far as like the psychological ride, you go on. 1730 01:40:28.960 --> 01:40:31.319 The psychological part, Fuck. 1731 01:40:31.239 --> 01:40:36.000 That all right? And so for for my fourth pick, 1732 01:40:36.039 --> 01:40:41.039 we're going with the twenty sixteen film Split by m 1733 01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:43.000 Night Shamala Malangadong. 1734 01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:56.000 Hey, pardon me, sir, I think you have the wrong car. 1735 01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:05.159 You've emailed for an appointment two days in a row. 1736 01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:06.760 Tell me what's going on. 1737 01:41:10.960 --> 01:41:14.319 I've never seen a case like this before. Twenty three 1738 01:41:14.479 --> 01:41:17.359 identities live in Kevin's body. 1739 01:41:17.399 --> 01:41:26.720 Did something happen? There's a flower on the pillows, a 1740 01:41:26.720 --> 01:41:28.920 flower in the bathroom, Like we're important? 1741 01:41:29.560 --> 01:41:32.800 Who is that maybe she can help us here. 1742 01:41:34.720 --> 01:41:37.960 Don't worry. He knows what you're here for. He's not 1743 01:41:38.119 --> 01:41:43.560 allowed to touch you. He knows that m M, my 1744 01:41:43.680 --> 01:41:46.199 name's Hedwig. I have read thoughts. 1745 01:41:46.359 --> 01:41:47.279 How old are you? 1746 01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:48.119 Nice? 1747 01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:54.880 The human brain is the most complex object in the universe. 1748 01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:03.720 I mean, with multiple personalities, can change their body chemistry 1749 01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:04.840 with their thoughts. 1750 01:42:05.479 --> 01:42:11.800 Someone's coming for you. What will happen when he unlocks 1751 01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:13.119 the potential of his brain? 1752 01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:15.760 There is no limit to what he can become. 1753 01:42:17.960 --> 01:42:21.920 And Night is a sacred knight. You will be in 1754 01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:26.680 the presence of something greater. The world will understand now 1755 01:42:27.439 --> 01:42:29.600 there'll be is real. 1756 01:42:32.840 --> 01:42:35.199 I'm starting to notice the motif. We have a few 1757 01:42:35.279 --> 01:42:40.880 on here that are about you know, shattered people and 1758 01:42:42.920 --> 01:42:47.359 as far as alternates, but this one is different. I 1759 01:42:47.399 --> 01:42:48.680 think it's. 1760 01:42:48.520 --> 01:42:51.159 Got like I said in the beginning of the episode, 1761 01:42:51.199 --> 01:42:55.159 it's got the supernatural slash paranormal aspect to it. 1762 01:42:55.680 --> 01:42:57.720 Yeah, And you could also say that this is a 1763 01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:03.000 second part of the trilogy he did that includes Unbreakable 1764 01:43:03.960 --> 01:43:09.039 Split in the Middle, and it's all wrapped up with Glass. 1765 01:43:09.359 --> 01:43:13.800 But and one thing I find interesting about Glass is 1766 01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:18.880 they are institutionalized and who is the head shrink to 1767 01:43:18.920 --> 01:43:25.279 circle back to Asylum American RS story, it is landa banana. 1768 01:43:25.800 --> 01:43:29.279 Oh fuck, Sarah Paulson is the is that her name 1769 01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:32.640 got about that? She's you know, she'd kind of come 1770 01:43:32.640 --> 01:43:35.319 to fame at this point through American her story. But yeah, 1771 01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:37.840 so she's the kind of the shoes on the. 1772 01:43:37.760 --> 01:43:40.640 Other poste too in the Ratchet. 1773 01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:43.159 Yeah, that's a good thing to mention. But anyway, I 1774 01:43:43.279 --> 01:43:47.960 just love the whole breaking down of like all these alternates, 1775 01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:52.479 and the acting job of James McAvoy is exceptional, playing 1776 01:43:52.520 --> 01:43:55.560 the little kid, playing the old proper British bitch that's 1777 01:43:55.560 --> 01:43:59.000 supposedly the bad one until you meet the Beast. Maybe 1778 01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:02.479 a Crawley reference, I'm not sure, but oh, I did 1779 01:44:02.560 --> 01:44:04.439 want to say that one of the characters and the 1780 01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:07.760 girl interrupted was last name was Crawley. Yeah, I mean 1781 01:44:07.800 --> 01:44:09.640 in the late sixties, she could have been like the 1782 01:44:09.680 --> 01:44:11.640 great granddaughter granddaughter. 1783 01:44:11.720 --> 01:44:15.960 Even the fact the fact that they chose that time 1784 01:44:16.680 --> 01:44:18.520 period two for me, it's. 1785 01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:22.199 A memoir bit that apparently was when that oh really. 1786 01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:26.159 Well kinds of stuff around that time too. They didn't 1787 01:44:26.199 --> 01:44:28.000 have to pick Jared Leto to be in it, that 1788 01:44:28.119 --> 01:44:29.920 his fucking ass was in it too. 1789 01:44:31.079 --> 01:44:33.960 So well also fucking my owner writers the one who's 1790 01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:36.439 obsessed with Catcher in the Rye and wears the shirts 1791 01:44:36.439 --> 01:44:41.039 and yeah, says that she identifies with Holden caffielled But yeah, 1792 01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:45.239 back to split Tangent averted almost so this is. 1793 01:44:45.760 --> 01:44:49.399 Kind of like psycho like with this split personality. 1794 01:44:48.800 --> 01:44:50.760 It's like Psycho fight Club. 1795 01:44:51.800 --> 01:44:59.279 But with this one. Let's just hope my sister doesn't 1796 01:44:59.319 --> 01:45:00.600 listen to this episode. 1797 01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:01.600 She don't listen. 1798 01:45:02.359 --> 01:45:05.119 So I used to make the girls at work laugh 1799 01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:09.279 because we worked at the same place. And if she 1800 01:45:09.359 --> 01:45:13.079 does it well, and I would say, you know, my 1801 01:45:13.159 --> 01:45:15.960 sister's got two personalities. You know, she's got her work 1802 01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:20.239 personality and then she's the person that I know and 1803 01:45:20.800 --> 01:45:23.720 sometimes you just have to look at her and wonder, 1804 01:45:23.800 --> 01:45:24.840 is that you, Patricia. 1805 01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:30.359 Yeah, a lot of people do this on a lower 1806 01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:34.279 level in their daily lives. They have their friend personality, 1807 01:45:34.319 --> 01:45:38.319 who they are with their friends, their significant other personality, 1808 01:45:38.359 --> 01:45:43.520 their work personality, maybe the personality they are around their kids. Yeah, 1809 01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:47.680 but it's like what Tyler Durton says to Tyler Durton, 1810 01:45:48.479 --> 01:45:53.760 Brad Pitt says to Edward Norton. People do this every day. 1811 01:45:53.800 --> 01:45:56.560 You just had the curse to kind of run with it. Yeah, 1812 01:45:57.560 --> 01:46:01.439 that you would say that about this main character in 1813 01:46:01.479 --> 01:46:04.520 the movie Split. He definitely ran with it. And you 1814 01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:07.800 gotta wonder, like he never really gets into how he 1815 01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:10.560 got this way, Like what did he go through? Was 1816 01:46:10.600 --> 01:46:14.279 he a fucking abused person? Obviously? But at what level? 1817 01:46:14.439 --> 01:46:14.680 Was it? 1818 01:46:14.760 --> 01:46:17.079 Like MK ultra type shit? 1819 01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:21.560 Hey, I feel like m Night Shyamalan was inspired by Sybil. 1820 01:46:22.479 --> 01:46:26.079 Okay, and that was supposedly a true story. There's been 1821 01:46:27.319 --> 01:46:31.880 there's been some debate to the mainstream science. People tried 1822 01:46:31.920 --> 01:46:35.840 to call her a fraud. Really, yeah, supposedly. 1823 01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:36.920 I don't think that's fair. 1824 01:46:37.039 --> 01:46:43.760 Supposedly that shit's debunked. What Sybil officially, I don't buy it. 1825 01:46:44.760 --> 01:46:47.159 You don't buy that she had split personality. 1826 01:46:47.319 --> 01:46:53.359 I don't buy the debunking. On NPR in twenty eleven, 1827 01:46:53.720 --> 01:46:58.399 Real Sibyl admits multiple personalities were fake, So that's out there. 1828 01:47:00.279 --> 01:47:05.760 They probably had to make her say that anyway. 1829 01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:10.239 Yeah, I was gonna say sixteen separate personalities she said 1830 01:47:10.279 --> 01:47:10.960 she had. 1831 01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:12.960 And one of them needed glasses and one of them 1832 01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:16.880 spoke French, and yeah, fake that. I can see the 1833 01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:19.760 influence you're talking about for yeah, able to Split for sure. 1834 01:47:21.159 --> 01:47:24.479 Sybil was going to make my Honorable Mentions list because 1835 01:47:25.119 --> 01:47:28.319 obvious reasons, the same reason why Split made the list. 1836 01:47:28.479 --> 01:47:34.000 But I actually loved this movie a lot when it 1837 01:47:34.079 --> 01:47:36.520 came out. And people talk so much shit about M. 1838 01:47:36.600 --> 01:47:39.920 Knight Shyamalan, but he's made some of my favorite movies 1839 01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:40.439 of all time. 1840 01:47:40.560 --> 01:47:44.279 I would say sixty percent of what M. Knight's done 1841 01:47:44.319 --> 01:47:47.039 is genius and the other forty percent is at least 1842 01:47:47.079 --> 01:47:51.760 worth watching. Yeahah, he doesn't make bad movies. He makes 1843 01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:56.840 some pretty genre driven, cheesy things that are still good 1844 01:47:56.880 --> 01:47:58.760 for what they are, and then he'll make something just 1845 01:47:58.800 --> 01:47:59.920 fucking phenomenal. 1846 01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:06.319 Yeah, cosmic peach trivia. What's my favorite M Night Shamalan movie? 1847 01:48:11.600 --> 01:48:15.880 Signs Lady in the Water? Oh I knew that? Yeah, 1848 01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:21.760 I know you knew it about you? The Childhood book 1849 01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:26.279 based on the movie. It was written by Any himself. 1850 01:48:26.319 --> 01:48:28.600 It's so rare find actually, I had never. 1851 01:48:28.439 --> 01:48:32.239 Seen any of this kind of shit. Really, are you 1852 01:48:32.319 --> 01:48:33.680 going to read it to the baby? 1853 01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:34.239 Yeah? 1854 01:48:34.439 --> 01:48:35.520 But so yeah, Split? 1855 01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:38.600 Are we rating your turn to go first? 1856 01:48:39.119 --> 01:48:41.800 I'm going to give it ten out of ten kooks, 1857 01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:45.680 because damn, I gave it eight eight out of ten. 1858 01:48:46.079 --> 01:48:49.119 Yeah, I think it's a solid, solid movie, even though 1859 01:48:49.359 --> 01:48:51.359 the acting is fucking eleven out of ten. 1860 01:48:51.439 --> 01:48:52.319 Yeah, that's why I gave it. 1861 01:48:52.319 --> 01:48:56.039 Anya included. She did a great job. The big eyed, 1862 01:48:56.079 --> 01:48:57.720 hot woman who's in everything. 1863 01:48:57.800 --> 01:48:57.960 Now. 1864 01:48:58.800 --> 01:48:59.920 This is the first thing I saw her. 1865 01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:03.840 I don't know if I've seen her in anything before that, 1866 01:49:03.960 --> 01:49:07.520 but just from the acting on its own, I give 1867 01:49:07.520 --> 01:49:10.720 it a ten out of tin Kooks and Patricia. You 1868 01:49:10.760 --> 01:49:12.399 can't get past Patricia. 1869 01:49:12.600 --> 01:49:16.760 I would think that this is James McAvoy's best role, 1870 01:49:16.920 --> 01:49:21.720 his Opus. Yeah, and you know, even in the third 1871 01:49:21.720 --> 01:49:26.960 and final installment of the trilogy, Glass, just the master 1872 01:49:27.119 --> 01:49:30.560 class of acting. I would say, watch Split the other 1873 01:49:30.600 --> 01:49:33.239 one the Glass. The conclusion of the story is more 1874 01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:38.439 driven by the supernatural battle. Yeah, the superhero super villain. 1875 01:49:38.680 --> 01:49:43.079 And I think a lot of these movies work though, 1876 01:49:43.119 --> 01:49:47.880 because you can so easily mix the paranormal with mental illness. 1877 01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:51.399 And I think that's true in real life. I think 1878 01:49:51.399 --> 01:49:54.159 that there is like the guy who wrote all about 1879 01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:58.800 prophetic shit at the mental institution from the last episode, 1880 01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:01.199 I think there is a parent normal aspect to this. 1881 01:50:02.039 --> 01:50:05.079 Yeah, I would say one of my honorable mentions because 1882 01:50:05.119 --> 01:50:08.399 we're mainly doing movies. We did open with the analysis 1883 01:50:08.439 --> 01:50:11.920 of the second season of American Horse Story, but we've 1884 01:50:11.960 --> 01:50:14.520 brought it up a few times in this series and 1885 01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:21.479 in others. The series Legion really good, kind of obscure 1886 01:50:21.600 --> 01:50:24.920 look into mental illness because it's a very powerful mutant. 1887 01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:27.079 And first they think he's mentally ill, then they think 1888 01:50:27.119 --> 01:50:29.199 he's a mutant, and then they realize he is a 1889 01:50:29.640 --> 01:50:34.720 mentally ill mutant and he's possessed also all that shit 1890 01:50:34.840 --> 01:50:36.640 going on, and he makes for quite a good super 1891 01:50:36.680 --> 01:50:38.399 villain by the time the show's wrapped up. 1892 01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:41.319 But about another mind fucker. 1893 01:50:41.239 --> 01:50:45.039 And it's the first season alone with the institution they're in, 1894 01:50:45.079 --> 01:50:50.399 and it's the X Men universe with the titular character. 1895 01:50:50.640 --> 01:50:59.039 Is it does say that titular the being the illegitimate 1896 01:50:59.119 --> 01:51:04.039 son of Professor Charles Xavier, who is a telekinetic. 1897 01:51:05.079 --> 01:51:09.600 And it is on Hulu if you have it, Yeah, 1898 01:51:09.720 --> 01:51:11.239 worth watching, definitely. 1899 01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:17.039 All right, Well shall we move on, yeah to your 1900 01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:21.600 fourth pick? Well, of course this had to be one 1901 01:51:21.640 --> 01:51:29.199 flew over the Cuckoo's nest. What can you tell me 1902 01:51:29.239 --> 01:51:31.479 about why you've been said over here? 1903 01:51:38.479 --> 01:51:41.479 They think you've been faking it in order to get 1904 01:51:41.479 --> 01:51:42.520 out of your work detail. 1905 01:51:43.119 --> 01:51:48.119 Oh I don't like that kind of guy. You medication time. 1906 01:51:48.399 --> 01:51:49.199 M yum me. 1907 01:51:52.840 --> 01:51:54.600 Do you want to say something of a group, mister 1908 01:51:54.720 --> 01:51:55.199 mc murphy. 1909 01:51:56.000 --> 01:51:59.560 Other thing that I'm a goddamn marvel and modern science. 1910 01:52:02.840 --> 01:52:05.479 I want to watch the ball game baseball. I only 1911 01:52:05.520 --> 01:52:09.359 count nine votes, mister McMurphy. Want that television set turned 1912 01:52:09.399 --> 01:52:10.840 not the cheap. 1913 01:52:18.920 --> 01:52:24.840 That nurse man sit down, he's dangerous. 1914 01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:36.640 How about it? 1915 01:52:36.720 --> 01:52:37.680 You creep you lot. 1916 01:52:42.520 --> 01:52:47.000 You think you're crazy or something. Well you're not, You're not. 1917 01:52:52.840 --> 01:52:53.560 What do you say? 1918 01:52:53.880 --> 01:52:56.319 I mean, what do we say? Because I know it 1919 01:52:56.399 --> 01:52:59.319 was my pick, but you got all the juicy details. 1920 01:52:59.600 --> 01:53:03.479 I mean, and it's you look at Laurel Canyon and 1921 01:53:04.279 --> 01:53:07.600 the more notably the stuff going on in the San 1922 01:53:07.600 --> 01:53:11.000 Francisco area with the Grateful Dead and the CIAA acid 1923 01:53:11.119 --> 01:53:14.840 tests and Ken Kesey and the Mary Pranksters. You get 1924 01:53:14.880 --> 01:53:18.800 this debut novel from Ken Kesey, who was an MK 1925 01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:23.359 ultra participant. He wasn't you know, not wanting to do it. 1926 01:53:23.399 --> 01:53:25.880 He was a college student and he took some LSD 1927 01:53:26.119 --> 01:53:29.359 and he got wrapped up in the CIA aspect of it. 1928 01:53:29.439 --> 01:53:31.960 But he also wrote One Flew Over the cuckoo's nest, 1929 01:53:32.800 --> 01:53:36.960 and the story goes that he was sweeping up you know, 1930 01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:39.560 he had the janitor and the night shift at a 1931 01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:44.439 psych ward and he would go in, flying high on 1932 01:53:44.640 --> 01:53:50.199 government sid and he would make eye contact for extensive 1933 01:53:50.199 --> 01:53:53.760 periods of time with the inmates there, and he would say, like, 1934 01:53:55.880 --> 01:53:59.560 I'm on the this side of the door is the institution. 1935 01:53:59.760 --> 01:54:04.279 These guys are free, kind of like Lisa from Girl 1936 01:54:04.319 --> 01:54:08.159 Interrupted her gratitude. But you know, then you look at 1937 01:54:08.159 --> 01:54:11.600 like the whole aspect of kin Kezy and like, was 1938 01:54:11.640 --> 01:54:15.399 this just a great first novel because then you get 1939 01:54:15.439 --> 01:54:19.760 the Laurel Canyon element of Jack Nicholson starring his R. P. McMurtry, 1940 01:54:19.840 --> 01:54:23.159 who was kN Kesey's alter ego when he was doing 1941 01:54:23.159 --> 01:54:27.159 all this acid inside the mental institution. But as a film, 1942 01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:30.239 and I do got to say, as a book, it's 1943 01:54:30.319 --> 01:54:33.520 completely different because it's told through the perspective of the 1944 01:54:34.239 --> 01:54:39.079 Indian that's pretending to be mute. Oh, so you get 1945 01:54:39.079 --> 01:54:45.840 this Native American perspective on being locked away, and you 1946 01:54:45.920 --> 01:54:49.000 know he's the one who flew over the Koucka's nest 1947 01:54:49.079 --> 01:54:49.840 at the end. 1948 01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:56.239 Well, you know, it's just got it all definitely. 1949 01:54:55.680 --> 01:55:02.359 The institutionalization and the electroshock therapy Ratchet, they lobotomize his 1950 01:55:02.399 --> 01:55:07.399 ass in the end, he thinks, and juicy Fruit smothers 1951 01:55:07.439 --> 01:55:08.680 him and runs free. 1952 01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:13.680 Right. He thinks that, oh, well, I'll just pretend like 1953 01:55:13.760 --> 01:55:17.319 I'm mentally ill so I can. Yeah, he's dodging it, 1954 01:55:17.439 --> 01:55:20.159 serve out the rest of my time in a He's. 1955 01:55:19.960 --> 01:55:25.920 Dodging a felony of statutory rape if I remember correctly, 1956 01:55:25.960 --> 01:55:29.960 and believes that he can run this fucking shit the 1957 01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:32.039 minute he steps in the door. And then of course 1958 01:55:32.079 --> 01:55:36.239 he's met with the bullheaded nurse Ratchet, and then the 1959 01:55:36.279 --> 01:55:38.920 movie it kind of just becomes a showdown between them. 1960 01:55:39.439 --> 01:55:43.239 It's one of the first movies I watched. Okay, so 1961 01:55:43.399 --> 01:55:45.279 let me just say my dad watched a lot of 1962 01:55:45.319 --> 01:55:48.680 movies that I can't even stand to look at as 1963 01:55:48.720 --> 01:55:52.199 an adult because he would watch them on repeat. One 1964 01:55:52.239 --> 01:55:55.319 Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is one of those movies 1965 01:55:55.319 --> 01:55:59.720 he would watch on repeat. But it was like the 1966 01:55:59.760 --> 01:56:04.119 first one where I didn't mind that he watched it 1967 01:56:04.159 --> 01:56:06.600 so often because I thought it was so good. 1968 01:56:07.279 --> 01:56:12.439 And then you would end up visiting him in similar facilities. 1969 01:56:12.720 --> 01:56:14.359 Yeah, then it became kind of. 1970 01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:17.479 I liked that. They in Wikipedia they call it a 1971 01:56:17.560 --> 01:56:20.199 psychological comedy drama. 1972 01:56:20.880 --> 01:56:23.920 The funny parts to me did not make this a comedy. 1973 01:56:24.119 --> 01:56:28.520 I think it is comedic, and I loved the cast, 1974 01:56:28.800 --> 01:56:32.520 being so many people who would become prominent. You got 1975 01:56:32.560 --> 01:56:35.800 like Danny DeVito playing Martini. 1976 01:56:35.560 --> 01:56:40.000 Fregon State Hospital. I didn't know it was Oregon. 1977 01:56:41.560 --> 01:56:46.079 Well, yeah, this is another big thing is Michael Douglas 1978 01:56:46.119 --> 01:56:48.680 was a producer on the movie, and he had to 1979 01:56:48.680 --> 01:56:51.600 turn his dad down because he wanted Jack Nicholson. 1980 01:56:53.119 --> 01:56:55.920 Well, this is the second film in our list with 1981 01:56:56.000 --> 01:57:02.479 Jack Nicholson. Correct, two different forms of mental little. 1982 01:57:02.439 --> 01:57:04.199 And you'd have to put the shining in there at 1983 01:57:04.199 --> 01:57:05.600 some point as an honorable mention. 1984 01:57:06.439 --> 01:57:09.279 Yes and no, right, it's he's yes. 1985 01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:10.560 Honorable mention. Certainly. 1986 01:57:10.640 --> 01:57:19.800 Yes for me, he's paranormally split. Oh, Danny's fucked up though, Yeah, 1987 01:57:19.840 --> 01:57:20.960 so I guess that is a. 1988 01:57:21.159 --> 01:57:23.279 The whole fucking thing, all of them. 1989 01:57:23.399 --> 01:57:26.399 Danny's got split personality and. 1990 01:57:26.439 --> 01:57:29.760 He's fucking hallucinating through the whole thing. And there's debates 1991 01:57:29.800 --> 01:57:32.119 over why. Right early, he's got a good theory on it. 1992 01:57:32.119 --> 01:57:36.439 And Whendy's a retard. So you got all three up. 1993 01:57:36.560 --> 01:57:39.359 Well she sure was by the time fucking Kubrick got 1994 01:57:39.399 --> 01:57:39.880 done with her. 1995 01:57:40.520 --> 01:57:42.800 So anyways, this is one of those movies that I 1996 01:57:42.840 --> 01:57:45.159 watched over and over again because my dad would just 1997 01:57:45.239 --> 01:57:51.960 like have it on this and like, uh Legends of 1998 01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:57.439 the Fall or fucking Full Metal Jacket. But uh, yeah, 1999 01:57:57.560 --> 01:58:02.039 I felt I felt weird after I watched it, Like. 2000 01:58:02.600 --> 01:58:07.520 Yeah, it's it's a very strange feeling you get watching 2001 01:58:07.560 --> 01:58:12.079 this big native guy's mother the protagonist of the movie, 2002 01:58:12.079 --> 01:58:13.840 and then running free. 2003 01:58:13.880 --> 01:58:18.079 But also like knowing that he didn't need to be lobottomized, 2004 01:58:18.159 --> 01:58:20.439 like he did that just to be a bitch. 2005 01:58:22.439 --> 01:58:28.159 Well, she, in his mind, drove this innocent person to 2006 01:58:28.199 --> 01:58:34.319 suicide and he tried choking her out so she'd had enough. 2007 01:58:34.520 --> 01:58:37.359 And yes, she gave him the old Rosemary Kennedy. 2008 01:58:38.119 --> 01:58:41.439 Well he got the Walter Lobato. 2009 01:58:41.840 --> 01:58:44.479 Yeah, he had one of the more successful ones. Put 2010 01:58:44.560 --> 01:58:50.199 him in that vegetated state. Very heavy movie. Very I 2011 01:58:50.239 --> 01:58:52.319 also think it's comedic. I mean, and I was mentioning 2012 01:58:52.319 --> 01:58:56.319 an earlier Look, you got Christopher Lloyd and Danny DeVito 2013 01:58:56.880 --> 01:58:59.319 and the guy from Ghost I don't know which one 2014 01:58:59.319 --> 01:59:03.119 of these names. Guys remember him. I love the scene 2015 01:59:03.119 --> 01:59:07.279 where they go out and borrow the boat. This guy, 2016 01:59:07.640 --> 01:59:09.039 Billy Bibbitt. 2017 01:59:09.079 --> 01:59:11.840 I don't know how much I had seen. 2018 01:59:11.640 --> 01:59:14.840 Him, and he's been in He's one of those side 2019 01:59:14.880 --> 01:59:18.079 actors that is in a lot. He was Dorif as 2020 01:59:18.199 --> 01:59:19.039 Billy Bibbott. 2021 01:59:19.439 --> 01:59:23.000 Billy Bibbitt was my most sad character. 2022 01:59:24.680 --> 01:59:27.960 He's in the original Dune Alien Resurrection. 2023 01:59:29.319 --> 01:59:31.319 Oh yeah, he is in that. 2024 01:59:33.439 --> 01:59:35.840 Blue Velvet David Lynch movie. 2025 01:59:36.359 --> 01:59:40.560 Should we rate it ten? Ten out of ten cooks 2026 01:59:40.600 --> 01:59:40.880 for me? 2027 01:59:41.079 --> 01:59:43.079 I think I'm speaking for everyone. 2028 01:59:42.840 --> 01:59:45.520 Right out of ten Kok's nests. 2029 01:59:47.720 --> 01:59:50.279 So your fifth and final Shutter Island. 2030 01:59:56.760 --> 01:59:59.159 Give you a briefing about the institution. Oh, I know 2031 01:59:59.279 --> 02:00:06.600 it's at hospital, but the criminally insane. We take only 2032 02:00:06.640 --> 02:00:12.399 the most dangerous sandwich patients once no other hospital can manage. 2033 02:00:13.119 --> 02:00:15.560 You are hereby required to surrender your firearms. 2034 02:00:15.600 --> 02:00:18.520 We are dually appointed federal marshals, but during your stay 2035 02:00:18.760 --> 02:00:19.880 you will obey protocol. 2036 02:00:20.680 --> 02:00:22.439 Gentlemen, Welcome to Shutter Islands. 2037 02:00:27.880 --> 02:00:29.279 Rush McDaniels, Octat. 2038 02:00:29.439 --> 02:00:33.479 So this female prisoner, Rachel Solando, escaped sometime in the 2039 02:00:33.520 --> 02:00:34.680 last twenty four hours. 2040 02:00:35.199 --> 02:00:37.359 She considered dangerous. You could say that. 2041 02:00:37.479 --> 02:00:39.880 It's eleven miles to the neighest land and the waterst reason. 2042 02:00:40.159 --> 02:00:41.720 We don't know how she got out of her room, 2043 02:00:41.880 --> 02:00:42.479 came back. 2044 02:00:42.279 --> 02:00:44.239 For a midnight round. She was gone. 2045 02:00:45.279 --> 02:00:47.600 This as if she evaporated straight through the wolves. 2046 02:00:51.840 --> 02:00:53.000 It was sixty seven. 2047 02:00:53.199 --> 02:00:55.640 There are a total of what sixty six patients. 2048 02:00:55.239 --> 02:00:56.760 At this facility, That is correct. 2049 02:00:56.840 --> 02:00:59.640 Yes, it seems to me Rachel Solando is suggesting that 2050 02:00:59.680 --> 02:01:02.399 you have a sixty seventh patient. Doctor. 2051 02:01:06.520 --> 02:01:08.560 A lot of people know about this place, but no 2052 02:01:08.600 --> 02:01:09.279 one will talk. 2053 02:01:09.319 --> 02:01:13.279 You know, It's like this skin is something you haven't 2054 02:01:13.319 --> 02:01:14.359 taken any pills. 2055 02:01:14.439 --> 02:01:16.279 Have you seen any wing. 2056 02:01:16.079 --> 02:01:17.199 Nightmare, slaling or shock? 2057 02:01:26.359 --> 02:01:26.600 Yeah? 2058 02:01:26.640 --> 02:01:27.760 I you know. 2059 02:01:28.359 --> 02:01:32.560 You said you figured it out just by watching the trailer. 2060 02:01:33.039 --> 02:01:35.560 Yeah, and I blame the trailer people for that. They 2061 02:01:35.680 --> 02:01:38.119 fucking made it obvious enough in the. 2062 02:01:38.079 --> 02:01:41.800 Trailer, so I had no backstory. When I watched this 2063 02:01:41.880 --> 02:01:44.439 at the theater with my mom, I think she just 2064 02:01:44.640 --> 02:01:46.479 it was one of those times she said, there's a 2065 02:01:46.520 --> 02:01:49.359 scary movie. I want to go see it. You know, 2066 02:01:49.399 --> 02:01:52.199 I just let the movie play out. I didn't see 2067 02:01:52.239 --> 02:01:55.880 it coming while I watched the movie. I hadn't seen 2068 02:01:55.920 --> 02:02:02.399 a trailer. But if you watch it one time, any 2069 02:02:02.439 --> 02:02:05.119 other time, you watch it, it's obvious from the beginning. 2070 02:02:05.159 --> 02:02:05.920 It's notice. 2071 02:02:06.239 --> 02:02:12.199 Yeah, and just you know, when this movie came out, 2072 02:02:12.800 --> 02:02:15.720 the whole and Fight Club kind of resurfaced this oh 2073 02:02:15.760 --> 02:02:19.239 it's this is going on kind of trope, and like 2074 02:02:19.560 --> 02:02:22.600 these big twists were huge, and so I kind of 2075 02:02:22.640 --> 02:02:24.920 looked at every trailer back then, going oh, is this 2076 02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:27.239 gonna be one of those big twists, And it just 2077 02:02:27.319 --> 02:02:30.880 looked like from the trailer that that was the big twist. 2078 02:02:30.920 --> 02:02:33.600 And for those of you who haven't seen it, spoiler alert. 2079 02:02:33.279 --> 02:02:33.439 But. 2080 02:02:35.600 --> 02:02:40.560 It makes it look like what he's investigating, but ends 2081 02:02:40.640 --> 02:02:42.640 up that he's an inmate there and they're just letting 2082 02:02:42.680 --> 02:02:43.920 him do this to try to heal. 2083 02:02:43.880 --> 02:02:46.840 Him, to try to bring back his because he has 2084 02:02:46.960 --> 02:02:49.000 like the memory last thing like Momento. 2085 02:02:49.239 --> 02:02:51.800 It's almost like the number twenty three. 2086 02:02:52.199 --> 02:03:00.239 Yeah, woo honorable mention number twenty three. Also well, I mean, 2087 02:03:00.239 --> 02:03:04.760 if you haven't seen Shutter Island, it's available on Hulu 2088 02:03:04.840 --> 02:03:08.239 right now, and like I said, if you've seen it once, 2089 02:03:08.760 --> 02:03:11.159 you'll be able to see throughout the entire movie that 2090 02:03:11.199 --> 02:03:17.399 this was a setup and that he's actually a crazy guy. 2091 02:03:18.359 --> 02:03:23.720 I'm gonna give it five out of ten kokes, give 2092 02:03:23.800 --> 02:03:26.359 it seven. Will you're being general? 2093 02:03:26.479 --> 02:03:30.199 I like Scorsese, I love DiCaprio. I love when they 2094 02:03:30.239 --> 02:03:33.479 pair up. This might be my least favorite of theirs. 2095 02:03:33.520 --> 02:03:35.760 I'm also gonna throw in another honorable mention that I 2096 02:03:35.760 --> 02:03:37.960 would have picked if Julie had seen this movie, But 2097 02:03:38.479 --> 02:03:45.439 another Squarsese DiCaprio film would be Aviator. The Aviator with 2098 02:03:47.000 --> 02:03:50.399 uh DiCaprio portraying Howard Hughes. 2099 02:03:50.800 --> 02:03:52.960 I've never seen it. Unfortunately. 2100 02:03:53.199 --> 02:03:55.800 I thought that should have been the movie that DiCaprio 2101 02:03:55.840 --> 02:03:56.640 got an Oscar for. 2102 02:03:57.520 --> 02:03:58.680 What do you get an oscar for? 2103 02:03:59.199 --> 02:04:01.640 The movie where he's alling through the snow cold the 2104 02:04:01.640 --> 02:04:03.840 whole fucking time after almost getting eaten. 2105 02:04:03.680 --> 02:04:06.159 By a bar based on the book. 2106 02:04:06.600 --> 02:04:11.760 Well, it's based on a real account. But yes, The Revenant. 2107 02:04:12.039 --> 02:04:14.479 Ah, I've never seen that either. 2108 02:04:15.039 --> 02:04:19.000 It's fucking worth watching. The movie is amazing, the cinematography, 2109 02:04:19.079 --> 02:04:22.640 the directing, the uh one of my favorite actors, Tom Hardy, 2110 02:04:22.800 --> 02:04:26.640 really fucking good in it. But it's just not the 2111 02:04:26.680 --> 02:04:29.680 performance that I thought was Oscar worthy, even though. 2112 02:04:29.760 --> 02:04:36.520 You're forgetting one that we watched just for this episode, 2113 02:04:37.079 --> 02:04:38.319 Revolutionary Road. 2114 02:04:38.640 --> 02:04:43.239 Yeah, I wanted you to watch it. Revolutionary Road For 2115 02:04:43.319 --> 02:04:47.239 those who haven't seen it. It's when the fucking dream Team, 2116 02:04:47.279 --> 02:04:49.319 as far as most teenage girls at the time are 2117 02:04:49.359 --> 02:04:54.399 concerned of Leonardo and Kate Winslet from Titanic pair back 2118 02:04:54.520 --> 02:04:59.279 up for Revolutionary Road. But the main or the best 2119 02:04:59.359 --> 02:05:02.199 character in the whole movie is just a guy who's 2120 02:05:02.199 --> 02:05:04.479 been in a mental institution and he kind of sees 2121 02:05:04.520 --> 02:05:09.319 the world in a logical way that meets the fantastical 2122 02:05:09.359 --> 02:05:12.159 notions of the of the pair in this movie. But 2123 02:05:12.199 --> 02:05:15.119 it's a fucking taxing watch. 2124 02:05:15.359 --> 02:05:18.000 I would say I enjoyed it, and we had some 2125 02:05:18.039 --> 02:05:20.800 great conversations about it after we watched it. 2126 02:05:22.159 --> 02:05:24.359 Well, you know another movie that kept coming up when 2127 02:05:24.399 --> 02:05:27.880 I was like looking over lists of movies about mental 2128 02:05:27.960 --> 02:05:31.000 illness for some reason, What's Eating Gilbert Great Grape kept 2129 02:05:31.000 --> 02:05:31.359 coming up? 2130 02:05:31.520 --> 02:05:35.479 He's recharging. I guess, Wow, Benny and June came up. 2131 02:05:35.479 --> 02:05:37.199 To Benny and June was gonna be one of my 2132 02:05:37.239 --> 02:05:39.399 honorable mentions at the end of this. But since it's 2133 02:05:39.399 --> 02:05:42.199 coming up now, Yeah, you got Johnny Depp and Mary 2134 02:05:42.239 --> 02:05:47.000 Stuart Masterson. Great movie. I think it's probably one of 2135 02:05:47.039 --> 02:05:48.880 my favorite romantic comedies. 2136 02:05:49.439 --> 02:05:53.439 Well, I said they're both kooks, and you said only 2137 02:05:53.520 --> 02:05:54.279 June is a kook. 2138 02:05:54.479 --> 02:05:55.960 Johnny Depp is not mentally ill. 2139 02:05:56.159 --> 02:05:58.760 We will let the listeners decide, because I think he's 2140 02:05:58.800 --> 02:05:59.560 a little kooky. 2141 02:05:59.760 --> 02:06:03.760 He's eccentric, he's quirky, but he's not in the condition 2142 02:06:03.920 --> 02:06:04.319 she's in. 2143 02:06:05.439 --> 02:06:09.279 He's a little kooky though he's out there. Yeah, two 2144 02:06:09.399 --> 02:06:12.199 Cook's in love. That's Benny Cook and Cook. 2145 02:06:12.359 --> 02:06:14.880 I just wouldn't call him legitimately mentally ill. 2146 02:06:15.119 --> 02:06:16.319 Cookie and Cook. 2147 02:06:16.880 --> 02:06:18.960 Even though he's sitting in a bathtub in the scene 2148 02:06:18.960 --> 02:06:23.960 where the older brother tells he's like wow, mentally ill 2149 02:06:24.359 --> 02:06:25.840 and he's sitting in the bathtub. 2150 02:06:26.000 --> 02:06:28.760 Yeah, I mean, that's. 2151 02:06:28.720 --> 02:06:31.039 Some of the best acting Johnny Depp's done, as far 2152 02:06:31.079 --> 02:06:34.560 as like taking on these Charlie Chaplin Buster Keaton type 2153 02:06:34.600 --> 02:06:38.079 things and doing the little dance with the dinner rolls 2154 02:06:39.119 --> 02:06:42.760 scene in the park. Well, we're getting tolerable mentions. But 2155 02:06:42.880 --> 02:06:46.239 I still have my last pick. And I was picking 2156 02:06:46.319 --> 02:06:52.319 between two movies, and I let Cheerlea be the tiebreaker. 2157 02:06:52.720 --> 02:06:56.399 I was going with either Bennie and June or the 2158 02:06:56.439 --> 02:06:59.560 cable Guy. Raw ended up going with the cable guy. 2159 02:06:59.600 --> 02:07:14.239 We got a little dark comedy. 2160 02:07:10.000 --> 02:07:10.920 Table guy. 2161 02:07:13.119 --> 02:07:15.760 Let's do this slip the cable guy, fifty bucks, You'll 2162 02:07:15.760 --> 02:07:17.439 give you all the movie channels for free. 2163 02:07:17.520 --> 02:07:18.560 You're offering me a bride. 2164 02:07:18.840 --> 02:07:20.600 What you have just done is illegal and in this 2165 02:07:20.720 --> 02:07:22.600 state of convicted, you could be fined up to five 2166 02:07:22.640 --> 02:07:25.520 thousand dollars or spend six months in a correctional. 2167 02:07:25.039 --> 02:07:25.760 For so all day. 2168 02:07:26.079 --> 02:07:27.600 Oh please, no, that was done. 2169 02:07:27.640 --> 02:07:39.159 I'm just I'm just making conversations, Darland of the Last. 2170 02:07:39.960 --> 02:07:42.800 I just don't have any woman in my life brand 2171 02:07:42.840 --> 02:07:43.439 news for head. 2172 02:07:45.039 --> 02:07:46.960 So what are you trying to say? 2173 02:07:47.199 --> 02:07:48.399 I'm here for you. 2174 02:07:48.920 --> 02:07:49.399 Don't do that. 2175 02:07:49.479 --> 02:07:50.359 You're gonna get me too. 2176 02:07:51.920 --> 02:08:01.399 Oh really, Jim Carey, Matthew Brothery, table guy, Okay, God, 2177 02:08:02.159 --> 02:08:02.720 thank god? 2178 02:08:11.640 --> 02:08:14.760 And what would you call him obsessive? 2179 02:08:16.640 --> 02:08:24.159 Uh? I would say he's got schizophrenia and separation anxiety. 2180 02:08:24.399 --> 02:08:26.600 And for those of you who don't know, this was 2181 02:08:26.600 --> 02:08:31.399 a Ben Stiller film directing and he does the cameo 2182 02:08:31.520 --> 02:08:35.279 as the homage to the Menindez Brothers going on throughout 2183 02:08:35.279 --> 02:08:39.640 the movie. Brilliant movie. Highly underrated as far as the 2184 02:08:39.640 --> 02:08:42.479 stuff Jim Carrey was putting it out before and after this. 2185 02:08:43.279 --> 02:08:46.840 I definitely talked about it in my Jim Carrey series 2186 02:08:47.239 --> 02:08:58.880 because it was I think it's Misunderstood, Misunderstood Jim Carrey film. 2187 02:08:59.199 --> 02:09:01.119 I think it's one of the better ones he did 2188 02:09:01.199 --> 02:09:04.000 in the nineties. Yeah, but as far as acting goes, 2189 02:09:05.279 --> 02:09:12.640 I think it's telling a wider story, you know, Chip Douglas, 2190 02:09:13.880 --> 02:09:17.199 which ended up just being a pseudonym that he picked. 2191 02:09:17.479 --> 02:09:20.680 This guy's obsessed with TV too. I love the element 2192 02:09:20.720 --> 02:09:22.960 of him growing up on TV and then becoming a 2193 02:09:23.000 --> 02:09:24.560 cable guy who stocks people. 2194 02:09:25.239 --> 02:09:25.600 Yeah. 2195 02:09:26.560 --> 02:09:29.439 Jack Black has a memorable role, even though it's smaller. 2196 02:09:31.800 --> 02:09:36.479 Already mentioned Ben Steeller's cameo. Of course, Matthew Broderick being 2197 02:09:36.600 --> 02:09:43.880 the victim and this was produced by jud Appatau and 2198 02:09:43.960 --> 02:09:47.600 his wife in Her Life, Leslie Mann is in it. 2199 02:09:49.279 --> 02:09:54.159 Good movie, good laughs. Kind of makes you think, too well, 2200 02:09:54.199 --> 02:09:55.279 what I said. 2201 02:09:55.039 --> 02:09:56.840 What I think he has? What do you think he has? 2202 02:09:57.000 --> 02:09:57.479 You agree? 2203 02:09:59.000 --> 02:10:01.800 I wouldn't call him like a full blown schizo from 2204 02:10:01.800 --> 02:10:04.840 my armstair chair position in the in the movie theater, 2205 02:10:04.960 --> 02:10:10.960 but I would say he's psychotic, he's stocking, he's dangerous, 2206 02:10:11.239 --> 02:10:14.199 he's obsessive, he. 2207 02:10:14.159 --> 02:10:16.199 Has think he has separation anxiety. 2208 02:10:16.439 --> 02:10:18.479 Yeah, he was raised by the television. 2209 02:10:20.439 --> 02:10:24.800 This was This is a good one too, because I've 2210 02:10:24.960 --> 02:10:28.319 actually met some people who get like weird like that 2211 02:10:28.439 --> 02:10:33.600 when they try to be your friend. Yeah, and it's 2212 02:10:33.600 --> 02:10:36.680 like you feel sorry for him because you can't be 2213 02:10:36.720 --> 02:10:39.880 their friend anymore once they've crossed over into the fucking 2214 02:10:39.920 --> 02:10:45.720 abyss you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and I'm not 2215 02:10:45.760 --> 02:10:48.560 talking about like dudes trying to like no, no, we 2216 02:10:48.560 --> 02:10:50.439 were talking about my tree, like. 2217 02:10:52.439 --> 02:10:57.159 In this scenario with the cable guy, like hetero friendship 2218 02:10:57.199 --> 02:11:00.760 seekers and then they kind of cling on and you 2219 02:11:00.840 --> 02:11:03.079 kind of have to start ignoring them and all that shit. 2220 02:11:03.239 --> 02:11:06.920 But yeah, and you feel bad because it's like, you know, 2221 02:11:06.960 --> 02:11:09.880 they start trying to almost imitate you and shit like that. 2222 02:11:10.079 --> 02:11:12.920 Or we're talking like single white female. Yeah have you 2223 02:11:12.960 --> 02:11:15.640 seen that? Yeah, that's a good one. And you know 2224 02:11:15.720 --> 02:11:19.800 this one was kind of like that, but a dark 2225 02:11:19.800 --> 02:11:22.199 comedy instead of a full on thriller. 2226 02:11:23.079 --> 02:11:27.319 They say that what did they say about something or 2227 02:11:27.359 --> 02:11:32.359 other is the most sincere form of flattery imitation imitation, 2228 02:11:32.800 --> 02:11:38.760 but fuck that because it's creey at times. Really, it's 2229 02:11:38.800 --> 02:11:42.359 not like, oh, Julia likes to wear band t shirts 2230 02:11:42.399 --> 02:11:44.520 and now I feel like maybe I want to get 2231 02:11:44.560 --> 02:11:48.199 a couple. It'll be like they they change their personality 2232 02:11:48.279 --> 02:11:50.800 to like become you and stuff. 2233 02:11:51.000 --> 02:11:53.359 Oh, you just made me think of a great honorable mention. 2234 02:11:53.680 --> 02:11:57.800 What talented mister Ripley. It was one of Matt Damon's 2235 02:11:57.800 --> 02:12:01.520 early roles and I've seen that playing opposite of Jude 2236 02:12:01.640 --> 02:12:04.439 Law and it's got Philip Seymour Hoffman in it. But 2237 02:12:04.600 --> 02:12:11.079 he basically becomes obsessed. The Matt Damon character becomes obsessed 2238 02:12:11.119 --> 02:12:14.960 with Jude Law and he kills him and then becomes him. Yes, 2239 02:12:15.039 --> 02:12:16.279 he takes his identity. 2240 02:12:16.680 --> 02:12:18.960 That's why you can't be friends with those kind of people. 2241 02:12:19.319 --> 02:12:21.960 Once you see the red flags, you've got to just 2242 02:12:22.159 --> 02:12:22.720 ghost them. 2243 02:12:22.800 --> 02:12:26.760 Yeah, And it was in that particular movie, which often happens, 2244 02:12:26.880 --> 02:12:31.000 is he was obsessed and wanting to be his best 2245 02:12:31.039 --> 02:12:35.880 friend and then the denial happens and then he snaps 2246 02:12:35.920 --> 02:12:38.880 and kills him. Yeah, you know, the Cable Guy kind 2247 02:12:38.880 --> 02:12:42.439 of went down similar avenues and ends up being resolved 2248 02:12:42.479 --> 02:12:44.840 and funny. And at the end of the movie he's 2249 02:12:44.880 --> 02:12:47.840 even moved on to another victim of the ambulance driver. 2250 02:12:49.239 --> 02:12:52.880 He's like, hey, what's your name? He gets that lock 2251 02:12:52.960 --> 02:12:53.479 in his eyes. 2252 02:12:53.680 --> 02:12:58.640 Yeah, so this one I'm given to him out of Jenkinkes. 2253 02:13:00.239 --> 02:13:02.560 For what it is and all that I give it a. 2254 02:13:02.479 --> 02:13:04.760 Solid nine nine out of ten. 2255 02:13:04.720 --> 02:13:11.600 Koukes honorable mentions that also were in contention for this 2256 02:13:11.640 --> 02:13:14.319 final slot of mind another Jim Carrey movie Me, Myself 2257 02:13:14.319 --> 02:13:16.920 and Irene would have been too similar as far as 2258 02:13:16.960 --> 02:13:20.560 some of the other picks go. Psycho Split, Fight Club. 2259 02:13:21.680 --> 02:13:26.000 I uh just had one pop into my head. Fatal Attraction. 2260 02:13:28.319 --> 02:13:31.000 What do you think she's got besides Scott A Rhea. 2261 02:13:31.720 --> 02:13:36.520 She just has no ability for reason or accountability? 2262 02:13:36.600 --> 02:13:38.960 How did she rise in the ranks of her company 2263 02:13:39.039 --> 02:13:40.000 being that psychotic? 2264 02:13:40.199 --> 02:13:42.319 I could tell you I've seen that movie maybe once 2265 02:13:42.399 --> 02:13:43.000 all the way through. 2266 02:13:43.319 --> 02:13:44.680 Are you serious? 2267 02:13:45.039 --> 02:13:46.079 We're talking Glenn. 2268 02:13:45.800 --> 02:13:47.760 Close right, yeah, horse face. 2269 02:13:47.920 --> 02:13:50.520 It's that fucking type cast character that Michael Douglas got 2270 02:13:50.680 --> 02:13:53.279 stuck in for a while. My fucking basic instinct. 2271 02:13:54.079 --> 02:13:57.199 Well, me and my mom watched Fatal Attractions. 2272 02:13:56.720 --> 02:14:01.439 Disclosure the time. Yeah, remember the dead Bunny and shit? 2273 02:14:02.640 --> 02:14:06.600 Well, so, uh we mentioned Bennie and June. Another Johnny 2274 02:14:06.640 --> 02:14:09.920 Depp honorable mention is Secret Window. I know that you 2275 02:14:09.960 --> 02:14:11.159 didn't love that one. 2276 02:14:12.159 --> 02:14:14.439 I didn't hate it. I had read the short story, 2277 02:14:14.600 --> 02:14:16.479 or maybe it was a full length novel, I don't 2278 02:14:16.520 --> 02:14:19.079 really remember, but it was based on the Stephen King's 2279 02:14:19.119 --> 02:14:21.600 work and they kind of took it was almost like 2280 02:14:21.600 --> 02:14:24.479 with the Shining, like they took this where it's actually 2281 02:14:24.520 --> 02:14:27.199 like a haunting possession type thing to where it's a 2282 02:14:27.199 --> 02:14:31.159 full on, like multiple skitso kind of thing. Yeah, Johnny 2283 02:14:31.199 --> 02:14:37.960 Depp and of course what's his name from? Oh brother 2284 02:14:38.159 --> 02:14:40.760 art though John Titureu. 2285 02:14:41.439 --> 02:14:42.640 Oh yeah, Pete. 2286 02:14:43.159 --> 02:14:48.279 Pet turned him into a horned toe. Yeah. 2287 02:14:48.279 --> 02:14:48.640 I don't know. 2288 02:14:48.680 --> 02:14:51.279 I think we may have gone over all my honorable mentions. 2289 02:14:51.359 --> 02:14:52.319 You have any others? 2290 02:14:52.600 --> 02:14:56.560 I have two others, and then we can just sum 2291 02:14:56.640 --> 02:14:57.720 up our final thoughts. 2292 02:14:57.920 --> 02:15:00.680 Oh I do have one more? What so you go first? 2293 02:15:01.119 --> 02:15:02.880 Well American Psycho. 2294 02:15:03.800 --> 02:15:06.000 Yeah, we did talk about maybe that would end up 2295 02:15:06.000 --> 02:15:09.359 on the list for one of us. Really fucking you know, 2296 02:15:09.520 --> 02:15:12.079 I almost regret not having it up there. I love 2297 02:15:12.600 --> 02:15:15.239 American because they pick this thing that you think it 2298 02:15:15.279 --> 02:15:18.840 is and then it's even like debated on whether he 2299 02:15:18.880 --> 02:15:21.600 imagined it or not, but obviously debated. 2300 02:15:21.680 --> 02:15:24.319 But to me, I think it's a better ending if 2301 02:15:24.359 --> 02:15:26.800 it is imagined, don't you? 2302 02:15:27.520 --> 02:15:30.359 Oh it is, and to me that's what it is. Yeah, 2303 02:15:30.399 --> 02:15:33.520 Like I can't be persuaded that he really was a 2304 02:15:33.600 --> 02:15:35.920 killer and they just covered it up because he's rich, right, 2305 02:15:36.000 --> 02:15:39.279 So some people think yeah, but like they're they're like 2306 02:15:39.359 --> 02:15:41.560 telling him that he didn't do it because he's too 2307 02:15:41.880 --> 02:15:46.119 high up, like they're supposed to let him rise, which 2308 02:15:46.239 --> 02:15:47.760 is an element that would be cool. 2309 02:15:47.760 --> 02:15:50.479 But I just feel like that's too surface level for me. 2310 02:15:51.319 --> 02:15:56.960 No, it seems to be that heid yeah being that yeah, yeah. 2311 02:15:57.000 --> 02:15:59.319 And we did just watch another movie from the Patrick 2312 02:15:59.359 --> 02:16:02.920 Bateman universe, based on another novel of his Rules of Attraction, 2313 02:16:03.039 --> 02:16:05.880 where one of the main characters is the brother of 2314 02:16:05.920 --> 02:16:10.279 Patrick Bateman, and that's a fun movie. Roger Avery, the 2315 02:16:10.319 --> 02:16:13.359 guy that helped Tarantina write pulp Fiction, wrote and directed that. 2316 02:16:14.840 --> 02:16:17.520 But yeah, i'd say American Psycho ten, ten out of 2317 02:16:17.520 --> 02:16:20.239 ten out of ten. I guess we're rating in down. 2318 02:16:21.199 --> 02:16:24.960 But I did have another one, Pie. It's an indie 2319 02:16:25.000 --> 02:16:28.680 movie shot on sixteen millimeter film. It's the debut of 2320 02:16:28.720 --> 02:16:30.520 the guy that made Recquen for a Dream. 2321 02:16:31.039 --> 02:16:33.159 And well, I definitely haven't seen that. 2322 02:16:33.239 --> 02:16:36.319 It's about a mathematician who's trying to crack the code 2323 02:16:36.680 --> 02:16:42.479 of everything, and he initially thinks he can. He's a 2324 02:16:42.520 --> 02:16:47.440 mathematician guy, and he thinks that he can control this, 2325 02:16:47.719 --> 02:16:49.840 or at least predict the stock market. If he comes 2326 02:16:49.879 --> 02:16:51.879 up with this number, then he starts seeing no, it's 2327 02:16:51.920 --> 02:16:55.040 a number that is the equation of everything. And then 2328 02:16:55.040 --> 02:16:57.559 he starts getting into like old Testament. 2329 02:16:58.360 --> 02:17:02.479 Even so it's like twenty three, like self induced psychosis. 2330 02:17:02.479 --> 02:17:04.479 Well, he gives himself of the botomy with a drill 2331 02:17:04.520 --> 02:17:04.879 at the end. 2332 02:17:05.000 --> 02:17:09.399 Okay, yeah, and it starts to become very what. He 2333 02:17:09.479 --> 02:17:11.799 gives himself all the bottomi with this. 2334 02:17:11.879 --> 02:17:14.280 With a drill, and then he just sits in the 2335 02:17:14.280 --> 02:17:17.040 park not thinking about the number of God. He cracked 2336 02:17:17.079 --> 02:17:19.159 the code of God and lost his mind. 2337 02:17:19.159 --> 02:17:23.200 For this is again why I say it's hard to 2338 02:17:23.239 --> 02:17:27.440 pick movies that impress you. You're watching some shit on 2339 02:17:27.559 --> 02:17:28.079 a whole. 2340 02:17:28.280 --> 02:17:32.799 This is Darren Ronofsky, who made another good movie mother. 2341 02:17:33.200 --> 02:17:36.040 Did you see that? Yes, that's that's him. That's the 2342 02:17:36.120 --> 02:17:37.360 rectum for a dream guy. 2343 02:17:37.600 --> 02:17:39.000 I was disturbed by it. 2344 02:17:39.159 --> 02:17:41.479 Loved that movie. I wouldn't say it falls into mental illness. 2345 02:17:41.520 --> 02:17:47.159 Now the whole other brand of fucking absurdity. So you 2346 02:17:47.200 --> 02:17:48.719 said you had one more honorable mention. 2347 02:17:49.159 --> 02:17:53.239 Yeah, it's the Changeling with Angelina Jolie. Circle back to 2348 02:17:53.520 --> 02:17:56.520 Girl Interrupted, another Angelina Jolie movie. 2349 02:17:56.799 --> 02:18:00.000 We're talking gas lit and driven driven insanity, hair. 2350 02:18:00.120 --> 02:18:04.440 Ass lit driven insanity. Wow, that movie is for me 2351 02:18:04.559 --> 02:18:07.520 ten out of ten kooks. They lock her ass up 2352 02:18:07.639 --> 02:18:13.200 because she won't admit that they've replaced her kid with 2353 02:18:13.280 --> 02:18:17.239 a kid that's not hers, Like, you know, you grew 2354 02:18:17.280 --> 02:18:19.559 it in your body for nine months, you've stared at 2355 02:18:19.600 --> 02:18:23.239 their face for years. They go missing. One day, the 2356 02:18:23.280 --> 02:18:25.600 cops drop off a random kid and they're like, no, 2357 02:18:25.799 --> 02:18:29.680 you're crazy if you think this isn't your kid. Literally 2358 02:18:29.920 --> 02:18:31.840 based on a true story, by the way. 2359 02:18:32.079 --> 02:18:38.639 And brilliantly directed by Clint Eastwood, and uh, I need 2360 02:18:38.639 --> 02:18:40.280 to watch it again. I've seen it once. 2361 02:18:40.639 --> 02:18:43.600 Ended up being a victim of a serial killer right 2362 02:18:44.200 --> 02:18:47.719 who was raping and pedophile and all over town, and 2363 02:18:47.840 --> 02:18:51.239 they still had her locked up in the mental institution 2364 02:18:51.360 --> 02:18:54.040 because she wouldn't say this random kid they brought to 2365 02:18:54.079 --> 02:18:55.079 her house was their kid. 2366 02:18:55.159 --> 02:18:58.280 Well, it became a cover or ass type thing after that. 2367 02:18:59.040 --> 02:19:02.360 But anyways, that was so just an honorable mention because 2368 02:19:04.079 --> 02:19:08.239 the scene where they're like taking her away and knowing 2369 02:19:08.280 --> 02:19:12.879 it's based on a true story, you would feel completely 2370 02:19:13.159 --> 02:19:18.319 and utterly helpless at that point, like you know, that's 2371 02:19:18.399 --> 02:19:19.200 not your kid. 2372 02:19:19.879 --> 02:19:25.600 Yeah, Well, I've got one final honorable mention, what Erase 2373 02:19:25.680 --> 02:19:26.079 her Head? 2374 02:19:26.920 --> 02:19:28.200 Yeah, no, thanks. 2375 02:19:28.280 --> 02:19:30.840 If you can watch that movie without becoming mentally ill 2376 02:19:30.879 --> 02:19:33.280 for at least ten minutes after you're done with it, 2377 02:19:33.520 --> 02:19:36.559 you are gifted. And we are going to watch this 2378 02:19:36.680 --> 02:19:41.920 after you after birth, probably after he's out of infancy, 2379 02:19:41.959 --> 02:19:45.399 because it crosses over. Oh god, it's yeah, it's it's 2380 02:19:45.440 --> 02:19:48.120 something else. But anybody who's seen eraserr Head you'll know 2381 02:19:48.159 --> 02:19:51.319 why it's an honorable mention. And with that said, I 2382 02:19:51.360 --> 02:19:56.239 don't know, we're gonna wrap up talking about like maybe 2383 02:19:56.280 --> 02:20:00.120 the element of cinemania and what's going on today with 2384 02:20:00.120 --> 02:20:09.040 our technology and the fetishization of being biodivergent not biodepe 2385 02:20:09.079 --> 02:20:11.920 what do they call it neuro divergent? 2386 02:20:12.639 --> 02:20:16.520 Well for me, yeah, that'll be our final thoughts on him. 2387 02:20:16.639 --> 02:20:19.799 I just thought of one more honorable mention. What twelve Monkeys. 2388 02:20:20.079 --> 02:20:21.319 I don't know if I've seen that. 2389 02:20:22.239 --> 02:20:25.120 It's the guy that made beer and loading in Las Vegas. 2390 02:20:25.559 --> 02:20:27.959 It's got Bruce Wilson Brad Pitt, and he's a time 2391 02:20:28.000 --> 02:20:32.239 traveler that goes back after the future or the present 2392 02:20:32.319 --> 02:20:35.079 day has been wiped out by a plague. He goes 2393 02:20:35.120 --> 02:20:38.719 back to get information. Bruce Willis ends up in a 2394 02:20:38.719 --> 02:20:41.000 mental institution because he's telling people he came from the 2395 02:20:41.079 --> 02:20:43.440 year or whatever, and he goes back to ninety six 2396 02:20:43.479 --> 02:20:45.399 and he gets in there and Brad Pitt's this fucking 2397 02:20:45.399 --> 02:20:49.639 psychotic guy. It shows so many compellion elements of like 2398 02:20:50.120 --> 02:20:54.200 mental illness, because Bruce Willis's character starts to think he 2399 02:20:54.319 --> 02:20:56.680 is mentally ill and he's not really a time traveler. 2400 02:20:56.719 --> 02:21:01.040 And there's a lot of good stuff in there anyway. 2401 02:21:01.520 --> 02:21:05.159 Out of ten kukes for you, oh for sure, there 2402 02:21:05.200 --> 02:21:07.799 are probably so many that were forgetting emails. 2403 02:21:07.920 --> 02:21:09.479 We could go on for hours. 2404 02:21:09.879 --> 02:21:11.520 But I did want to kind of sum up our 2405 02:21:11.559 --> 02:21:18.200 final thoughts with the fetishization of claiming that you're mentally ill, 2406 02:21:19.600 --> 02:21:23.479 self diagnosed, self diagnosing, you've never you've never. 2407 02:21:23.440 --> 02:21:28.600 Taken Everybody has anxiety and for some reason it's the 2408 02:21:28.639 --> 02:21:31.520 new thing to have at the debilitating level. And I 2409 02:21:31.520 --> 02:21:32.600 don't think it's all fake. 2410 02:21:33.399 --> 02:21:35.600 Well no, but I was going to say you've never. 2411 02:21:36.799 --> 02:21:39.399 People will just say stuff and it's like, have you 2412 02:21:39.440 --> 02:21:43.760 ever really, like, have you well been diagnosed? Like I 2413 02:21:44.200 --> 02:21:46.239 just and it's not that I put a lot of 2414 02:21:46.280 --> 02:21:50.760 stock into what psychiatrists and psychologists will just like say, oh, 2415 02:21:50.799 --> 02:21:53.799 you have borderline personalities. Like, I get it. I don't 2416 02:21:53.840 --> 02:21:56.760 put much stock into that, but people will just literally 2417 02:21:56.799 --> 02:21:59.200 walk around being like, oh, I can't do that because 2418 02:21:59.280 --> 02:22:02.719 I'm all get triggered. I have this, I have that, 2419 02:22:02.840 --> 02:22:04.879 And it's like, do you really or are you just 2420 02:22:04.920 --> 02:22:05.959 a fucking asshole. 2421 02:22:06.680 --> 02:22:09.760 Oh, there's a lot of that going on, and the 2422 02:22:09.959 --> 02:22:15.399 mental contagion. You know, a lot of this transissue stuff 2423 02:22:15.440 --> 02:22:18.079 can be lumped into what's going on today because of 2424 02:22:18.600 --> 02:22:23.159 a lot of the psyops with the school shootings and uh, 2425 02:22:23.479 --> 02:22:26.120 just it's one of the most divisive things going on 2426 02:22:26.239 --> 02:22:28.840 right now. Some people look at it as a normal phenomenon. 2427 02:22:28.879 --> 02:22:33.159 Some people look at it as a mental illness, and yeah, 2428 02:22:33.239 --> 02:22:38.200 it is trendy to be fucked up in the head, 2429 02:22:39.040 --> 02:22:41.319 when in fact we don't really need that much help. 2430 02:22:41.600 --> 02:22:45.399 And I just was looking at this study or reading 2431 02:22:45.440 --> 02:22:48.840 about it the other day about the effect that just 2432 02:22:48.959 --> 02:22:53.239 chat GPT since its arrival is having on younger users, 2433 02:22:54.399 --> 02:22:56.639 and I mean, don't get it. It's talking people into 2434 02:22:56.680 --> 02:23:00.440 killing themselves. Have you seen that. It's like a times 2435 02:23:00.440 --> 02:23:02.600 in the last few months I've seen it pop up. 2436 02:23:03.200 --> 02:23:05.840 I think that there's a darkness to it. But I mean, 2437 02:23:06.520 --> 02:23:11.360 even besides that, I do think people need to understand that, 2438 02:23:11.600 --> 02:23:14.920 to some degree, it's normal to just have some dark 2439 02:23:14.959 --> 02:23:21.959 thoughts every now and again and not be fucking one 2440 02:23:22.000 --> 02:23:23.600 flew over the cuckoo's nest. 2441 02:23:24.239 --> 02:23:26.760 Yeah, we've talked about the element of it a lot 2442 02:23:26.799 --> 02:23:33.440 in the last episode. But there's a whole industry of 2443 02:23:33.479 --> 02:23:37.440 people waiting for you out there just to label you 2444 02:23:37.520 --> 02:23:40.879 insane or convince you you're insane for nefarious reasons. 2445 02:23:41.319 --> 02:23:44.920 But do you think, like with the mk ultra doctor 2446 02:23:45.719 --> 02:23:48.600 that was doing all that stuff in Canada, she had 2447 02:23:48.680 --> 02:23:53.840 postpartum depression. This is a normal thing. This is a biological. 2448 02:23:53.120 --> 02:23:54.399 Thing, anxiety. 2449 02:23:56.440 --> 02:23:59.479 My sister and one other person that I won't mention 2450 02:23:59.600 --> 02:24:03.120 their name have told me that after they had their baby, 2451 02:24:03.159 --> 02:24:07.360 they hated their husband and had thoughts of leaving them 2452 02:24:07.520 --> 02:24:08.799 and or killing them. 2453 02:24:10.360 --> 02:24:10.920 Can't wait. 2454 02:24:11.719 --> 02:24:16.399 But I'm saying, like, you don't need to get electroshock 2455 02:24:16.559 --> 02:24:21.920 therapy because you have a totally normal biological thing, Like 2456 02:24:22.000 --> 02:24:25.479 it's okay to have some fucking dark thoughts every day. 2457 02:24:25.319 --> 02:24:29.920 And again, Well fucking better be or else I am fucked. 2458 02:24:30.760 --> 02:24:36.319 I'm not saying like Dexter style dark Passenger fucking well. 2459 02:24:36.319 --> 02:24:39.239 And also, if you're having those thoughts, it's one thing 2460 02:24:39.280 --> 02:24:41.360 to have them, it's an entirely other thing to act 2461 02:24:41.399 --> 02:24:46.559 on them. It's not a fucking crime to fantasize about 2462 02:24:46.600 --> 02:24:48.639 doing horrible things. It is, on the other hand, of 2463 02:24:49.079 --> 02:24:51.159 crime to bring those things to fruition. 2464 02:24:52.239 --> 02:24:55.159 Have you ever heard of people calling into work though 2465 02:24:55.159 --> 02:24:57.639 for mental health those that's become a new thing. 2466 02:24:57.879 --> 02:25:00.760 Oh, it's been a real challenge as far as me. 2467 02:25:01.159 --> 02:25:03.559 I have been in charge of hiring people for the 2468 02:25:03.680 --> 02:25:08.479 last couple of years. And if that's a question while 2469 02:25:08.479 --> 02:25:11.040 I'm interviewing you, is how many how would you feel 2470 02:25:11.040 --> 02:25:14.559 about mental health days? And instead of saying, well, are 2471 02:25:14.559 --> 02:25:16.319 you going to make it a normal thing? I just 2472 02:25:16.440 --> 02:25:18.399 ask them what they mean by it, And yeah, that 2473 02:25:18.440 --> 02:25:20.479 has become a thing. And it's like call in sick. 2474 02:25:20.520 --> 02:25:23.040 I don't give a shit. But if you need a 2475 02:25:23.079 --> 02:25:26.360 mental health day every couple of weeks, then you're not 2476 02:25:26.399 --> 02:25:30.200 reliable because of that. Then I might have to pass you. 2477 02:25:30.239 --> 02:25:33.040 And I'm not saying there's people who don't need mental 2478 02:25:33.040 --> 02:25:35.879 health days or that there aren't those people. There certainly are. 2479 02:25:36.000 --> 02:25:37.760 But now it's like you. 2480 02:25:37.680 --> 02:25:40.280 Said, it's a generation of pussies. 2481 02:25:40.440 --> 02:25:44.120 Well, entire workforces are actually putting them in the A 2482 02:25:44.159 --> 02:25:46.719 lot of days now that you can have off, I. 2483 02:25:46.639 --> 02:25:49.280 Think you should. I think that the way that the 2484 02:25:49.319 --> 02:25:51.920 work system is set up with like eight hours at 2485 02:25:52.000 --> 02:25:54.760 home and or eight hours at work and four hours 2486 02:25:54.799 --> 02:25:57.399 at home, it's fucking sucks. And then you just live 2487 02:25:57.600 --> 02:25:59.799 for the weekend where you have a couple of days. 2488 02:25:59.879 --> 02:26:03.200 You yourself not really Sunday because you're thinking about having 2489 02:26:03.200 --> 02:26:05.600 to go to work all day the next your choice. 2490 02:26:05.680 --> 02:26:07.559 You don't have to sit there and waste Sunday thinking 2491 02:26:07.559 --> 02:26:08.280 about Monday. 2492 02:26:08.479 --> 02:26:11.159 I'm just saying I get it mental health days, but 2493 02:26:11.280 --> 02:26:15.799 it's like a generation of people who think they are 2494 02:26:16.040 --> 02:26:21.920 entitled to that. Now I'm mentally ill, so I can't. 2495 02:26:22.200 --> 02:26:24.719 Do X y Z. I can't or I will go 2496 02:26:24.840 --> 02:26:27.440 mentally ill if I don't have my mental health days. 2497 02:26:28.079 --> 02:26:32.920 Or I know people who struggle fucking mentally and are 2498 02:26:32.959 --> 02:26:36.159 traumatized and they go to work and they suffer through 2499 02:26:36.159 --> 02:26:39.159 it because they know that this is how jobs work. 2500 02:26:40.559 --> 02:26:44.479 It's like for every fucking ten people that really have it, 2501 02:26:46.120 --> 02:26:48.200 there's one hundred who don't, and they're the ones asking 2502 02:26:48.200 --> 02:26:51.399 for the mental health and there's yeah, it's just another 2503 02:26:51.399 --> 02:26:54.440 way to not have to work when you don't feel 2504 02:26:54.479 --> 02:26:57.079 like it. And then for some people, yeah, they're suffering 2505 02:26:57.120 --> 02:26:58.719 through every fucking day they're at work. 2506 02:27:00.600 --> 02:27:02.920 I think there's a lot of people on Facebook that 2507 02:27:03.040 --> 02:27:07.079 are my age group women in particular, patting themselves on 2508 02:27:07.120 --> 02:27:13.200 the back for having mental illness. And I don't know, 2509 02:27:13.239 --> 02:27:15.440 maybe I'm just old fashioned in this way, but they'll 2510 02:27:15.479 --> 02:27:19.840 post pictures of their house a mess, like disgusting, like 2511 02:27:21.280 --> 02:27:28.319 fucking hoarder type looking shit, and they're like, I just 2512 02:27:28.639 --> 02:27:31.799 wanted to make a mental health post for all you 2513 02:27:31.920 --> 02:27:35.159 ladies out there. It's okay sometimes if you can't if 2514 02:27:35.200 --> 02:27:38.520 you just can't mustard to clean your house today, or 2515 02:27:38.600 --> 02:27:40.719 it's okay if you just can't take care of your 2516 02:27:40.799 --> 02:27:43.959 kids today, or it's okay if you just can't be 2517 02:27:44.040 --> 02:27:50.479 the best version of yourself today. And my mom did 2518 02:27:50.600 --> 02:27:54.520 have like some weird fucking anxiety shit where she couldn't 2519 02:27:54.520 --> 02:27:57.200 even like get her hair cut because when they put 2520 02:27:57.239 --> 02:27:59.239 the cape on her, she'd have a freak out and 2521 02:27:59.280 --> 02:28:01.879 have to take like three xan X just to calm down. 2522 02:28:02.680 --> 02:28:08.399 Never once, she kept the house immaculately clean, washed the 2523 02:28:08.479 --> 02:28:11.639 sheets all the time, did all this. She never once 2524 02:28:11.680 --> 02:28:14.920 said I need a mental health day, can't take you 2525 02:28:15.000 --> 02:28:17.799 to school, or cook for you or clean the house up. 2526 02:28:18.680 --> 02:28:21.639 I don't know. I just is this a generational. 2527 02:28:20.959 --> 02:28:25.200 Thing or I mean it's become normalized and I do 2528 02:28:25.239 --> 02:28:25.760 think the. 2529 02:28:25.840 --> 02:28:29.040 Easiest version of yourself and just get a pass. 2530 02:28:29.440 --> 02:28:32.360 Well, yeah, that the world as we know it this 2531 02:28:32.479 --> 02:28:36.399 day and age is right for the picking for that 2532 02:28:36.520 --> 02:28:40.799 kind of mentality, and it is encouraged and it's taken 2533 02:28:40.840 --> 02:28:44.559 advantage of. And you know, like I said, it's kind 2534 02:28:44.559 --> 02:28:46.559 of like what you're saying with your mom for every 2535 02:28:46.600 --> 02:28:52.040 real fucking h what's the word I'm looking for, Like 2536 02:28:52.200 --> 02:28:56.200 inflicted person who's working their ass off to keep their 2537 02:28:56.239 --> 02:28:59.319 shit together, taking care of the responsibilities. There's people who 2538 02:28:59.360 --> 02:29:01.959 are just gonna know that they can. It'll slide if 2539 02:29:01.959 --> 02:29:07.239 they use those words mental health day. I'm sorry. I'm 2540 02:29:07.280 --> 02:29:13.079 not the best version of myself most days. You know, 2541 02:29:13.120 --> 02:29:15.920 when I'm being the best version of myself, that's a 2542 02:29:15.959 --> 02:29:19.159 fucking special moment. And I don't expect that to be 2543 02:29:19.239 --> 02:29:22.479 the norm. It doesn't mean I'm mentally ill. It just 2544 02:29:22.559 --> 02:29:26.280 means it's fuck my life's real. Yeah, And yeah, I 2545 02:29:26.280 --> 02:29:28.559 don't know. I've fucking felt like walking out of work 2546 02:29:28.879 --> 02:29:31.440 more times than I care to count. But I'm not 2547 02:29:31.520 --> 02:29:34.959 going to and I'm not saying I'm inflicted or it's 2548 02:29:35.120 --> 02:29:43.200 just like you said earlier, this is trendy and pushed 2549 02:29:43.600 --> 02:29:48.680 and it's meant to have a debilitated populace. So of 2550 02:29:48.760 --> 02:29:51.680 course this is one angle that they have you chosen 2551 02:29:51.719 --> 02:29:53.680 to use to get people under their thumb. 2552 02:29:54.879 --> 02:29:57.479 I just feel like people think if their life doesn't 2553 02:29:57.559 --> 02:30:01.680 look like a real on Faceboo Booker, Instagram or TikTok, 2554 02:30:02.000 --> 02:30:06.280 that they get depressed about it and it's like, oh, 2555 02:30:06.360 --> 02:30:09.079 my life doesn't look like this stuff I see on 2556 02:30:09.120 --> 02:30:10.799 social media. So I'm so. 2557 02:30:10.760 --> 02:30:13.360 I'm just gonna swing that pendulum all the other way, 2558 02:30:13.879 --> 02:30:16.040 because yeah, I was thinking about that element of it 2559 02:30:16.079 --> 02:30:18.799 when you mentioned the Facebook thing the first time. Was 2560 02:30:20.319 --> 02:30:24.399 a lot of people make their life look fake good 2561 02:30:24.719 --> 02:30:27.959 on social media. The other people are embracing this, like 2562 02:30:28.360 --> 02:30:32.360 is anybody just like taking a picture of their poop 2563 02:30:32.399 --> 02:30:35.319 in the morning and being like, just had my coffee. 2564 02:30:36.959 --> 02:30:42.000 This is a good one, like real, just everyday shit, 2565 02:30:42.200 --> 02:30:45.000 like or look at those chunks of meat on the mirror. 2566 02:30:45.040 --> 02:30:49.680 I just flossed out. Now I'm gonna walk my dog 2567 02:30:50.000 --> 02:30:52.159 and get in a fight with the dog's neighbor. I'm 2568 02:30:52.159 --> 02:30:54.479 gonna take a picture of that. Like, No, it's either 2569 02:30:54.600 --> 02:30:58.000 like you're you're setting up a narrative of what your life, 2570 02:30:58.319 --> 02:30:59.879 what you want it to look like. Whether it's like 2571 02:31:00.079 --> 02:31:02.719 for me, I don't have the energy to fucking pick 2572 02:31:02.799 --> 02:31:04.680 up the house today and my kids aren't gonna get 2573 02:31:04.719 --> 02:31:08.200 a good dinner because it's okay to not be the best. 2574 02:31:08.120 --> 02:31:12.840 You try, you can try, but yeah, and my heart 2575 02:31:12.879 --> 02:31:15.520 goes up to those people who can't function because they're 2576 02:31:15.680 --> 02:31:19.000 debilitated by some fucking horrible mental affliction. 2577 02:31:19.319 --> 02:31:23.399 I just th thing goes on social media, though everything goes. 2578 02:31:23.799 --> 02:31:26.840 I think people who document their lives on a regular 2579 02:31:26.920 --> 02:31:31.959 basis on social media are legitimately insane. Yeah, same, so sorry. 2580 02:31:32.040 --> 02:31:34.559 Pictures of your own fucking face? Do you need to 2581 02:31:34.600 --> 02:31:37.440 look at how people look at before you feel validated? 2582 02:31:37.680 --> 02:31:40.440 Or even the more fucked up people plastering their kids 2583 02:31:40.479 --> 02:31:43.239 all over the fucking main source of what pedophiles you 2584 02:31:43.360 --> 02:31:47.120 use for victim Like, I remember how common it was 2585 02:31:47.520 --> 02:31:50.600 using dating websites for women to be plastering their kids' 2586 02:31:50.639 --> 02:31:53.760 faces on their profiles, And that's insane to me. The 2587 02:31:53.840 --> 02:31:57.159 Internet legitimately is just a pool of insanity. 2588 02:31:58.040 --> 02:32:01.239 So there is the reason I mention it is because 2589 02:32:01.280 --> 02:32:05.280 there's levels to this shit. Obviously, not everybody is coming 2590 02:32:05.280 --> 02:32:08.159 out and saying like there are some that are more 2591 02:32:09.959 --> 02:32:13.079 fetishized than others, because you wouldn't say like, oh, I'm 2592 02:32:13.120 --> 02:32:15.680 so proud to be schizophrenic, I'm. 2593 02:32:15.479 --> 02:32:18.559 So proud to be a chronic masturbator. You know what 2594 02:32:18.559 --> 02:32:26.079 I'm saying anal dig on Sundays. It's the Nietzsche ones like, yeah, 2595 02:32:26.559 --> 02:32:30.840 I'm sorry, it's just a lot of kids have a 2596 02:32:31.000 --> 02:32:34.000 d D because it's so quick to label him that 2597 02:32:34.440 --> 02:32:37.959 put him in the pipeline of that thing. But anyway, Yeah, 2598 02:32:39.280 --> 02:32:41.799 to wrap up on my end of this whole conversation, 2599 02:32:42.600 --> 02:32:45.719 I just everything we've talked about. I wanted to close 2600 02:32:45.760 --> 02:32:49.000 out with the quote by C. William King, and I'm 2601 02:32:49.000 --> 02:32:51.719 gonna be honest here, and I don't know who he is, okay, 2602 02:32:51.760 --> 02:32:54.879 but I love the quote and it's been embellished and 2603 02:32:55.000 --> 02:32:57.959 you know, spun off in other ways. You've probably heard it, 2604 02:32:58.000 --> 02:33:02.600 but it is and in an insane world, a sane 2605 02:33:02.639 --> 02:33:07.000 man must appear insane. And that wraps up my thoughts 2606 02:33:07.000 --> 02:33:08.360 on insanity you're. 2607 02:33:08.239 --> 02:33:09.920 Gonna get that tatted on your biele. 2608 02:33:10.520 --> 02:33:12.799 No, I got it tatted right here backwards so I 2609 02:33:12.799 --> 02:33:14.520 can see it in the mirror like a memento. 2610 02:33:16.120 --> 02:33:17.200 That is a good quote. 2611 02:33:18.719 --> 02:33:19.959 What are your closing thoughts? 2612 02:33:21.319 --> 02:33:24.760 My closing thoughts are, like I said, there's levels to 2613 02:33:24.840 --> 02:33:29.559 this shit. People think it's cute to like have some 2614 02:33:29.719 --> 02:33:34.079 form of mental illness. I think that life is hard, okay. 2615 02:33:34.239 --> 02:33:39.639 I think that people have completely lost coping mechanisms. 2616 02:33:41.760 --> 02:33:43.600 Take up cigarettes like normal people. 2617 02:33:43.959 --> 02:33:47.440 Yeah, you can do that, or I don't know. 2618 02:33:47.559 --> 02:33:50.040 Or as Joe Rogan says, just exercise and hit the 2619 02:33:50.120 --> 02:33:52.920 SNA and the cold plunge and do whim hof breathing 2620 02:33:54.079 --> 02:33:55.239 and jiu jitsu, or you. 2621 02:33:55.200 --> 02:34:00.440 Could do that. I just think that our societ is 2622 02:34:00.520 --> 02:34:09.479 set up for instant gratification on every level, including pharmaceuticals. Uh, 2623 02:34:09.719 --> 02:34:14.879 you know you're fat, Inject this ozipic. You're depressed, take 2624 02:34:14.920 --> 02:34:17.319 an antidepressant, and if that doesn't work, we have an 2625 02:34:17.319 --> 02:34:22.120 antidepressant booster you can try. Oh you have anxiety, take this? 2626 02:34:22.479 --> 02:34:26.799 Oh you like? Trump wants to put all the homeless 2627 02:34:26.799 --> 02:34:30.920 people in fucking Laurel Wood encampments to get filed away. 2628 02:34:31.000 --> 02:34:34.040 I mean it's just our society is not set up 2629 02:34:34.799 --> 02:34:41.799 in any way, shape or form to help people understand 2630 02:34:41.840 --> 02:34:45.639 their own minds. And I think, like I said before, 2631 02:34:45.799 --> 02:34:50.440 there's a spiritual and paranormal aspect to this. What if 2632 02:34:50.440 --> 02:34:55.280 you're like, this is gonna just be my last little 2633 02:34:55.319 --> 02:34:59.479 tangent and then I'm done. But you know that one 2634 02:34:59.520 --> 02:35:00.520 goes show I watch? 2635 02:35:01.040 --> 02:35:04.600 Yeah, it's the one the Dead Files. Oh, that one, 2636 02:35:04.639 --> 02:35:06.920 because they're not just one where she gets. 2637 02:35:06.799 --> 02:35:09.479 Like the psychic lady goes to their house and she'll 2638 02:35:09.520 --> 02:35:13.959 like tell them what all ghosts are in their house 2639 02:35:14.040 --> 02:35:16.600 and like how they could be affecting the living people. 2640 02:35:17.479 --> 02:35:19.280 Do you remember me watching that? 2641 02:35:19.479 --> 02:35:22.600 I don't watch this. I've seen you watch it. I've 2642 02:35:22.639 --> 02:35:24.959 noticed the woman has dead eyes. I don't believe her. 2643 02:35:25.239 --> 02:35:29.040 I don't believe any of it. Just listen, I believe ghosts. 2644 02:35:29.079 --> 02:35:30.520 I don't believe in ghost shows. 2645 02:35:30.920 --> 02:35:33.799 All right. I'm just saying the concept of that show. 2646 02:35:35.559 --> 02:35:44.159 What if people are literally being oppressed by an interdimensional 2647 02:35:44.200 --> 02:35:49.440 realm that we have no understanding of, and they misunderstand 2648 02:35:49.479 --> 02:35:51.239 it as anxiety and depression. 2649 02:35:52.159 --> 02:35:57.399 That's what scientologists say. Really agnostics say, yeah, it's a 2650 02:35:57.840 --> 02:36:01.680 it's an misunderstood force has us held captive, and that 2651 02:36:01.799 --> 02:36:03.840 is the basis of a lot of these newer religions. 2652 02:36:05.159 --> 02:36:06.959 Do you think that could be true in a way. 2653 02:36:07.360 --> 02:36:09.600 Yeah, And the people writing the religions are the one 2654 02:36:09.639 --> 02:36:12.200 doing it. But then they give us the story of 2655 02:36:12.319 --> 02:36:19.399 Xenu or the story of the Demiurge. But basically those 2656 02:36:19.399 --> 02:36:21.879 things are metaphors. I mean, look at the matrix. These 2657 02:36:21.879 --> 02:36:25.360 are things that are metaphors. It's a misunderstood force and 2658 02:36:25.399 --> 02:36:28.440 that's the reason we are this way. 2659 02:36:29.200 --> 02:36:33.280 I just think that we're surrounded by this other realm 2660 02:36:33.319 --> 02:36:36.000 at all times, and we could be afflicted by things 2661 02:36:36.959 --> 02:36:40.760 that cause mental illness, and even on a smaller scale, 2662 02:36:40.799 --> 02:36:44.000 maybe you're not as sensitive to being affected by it, 2663 02:36:44.040 --> 02:36:49.719 but like anxiety, depression, dark thoughts, it's like it could 2664 02:36:49.719 --> 02:36:53.040 literally be coming from not you. 2665 02:36:54.159 --> 02:36:57.159 Well, yeah, I believe that. I believe that sometimes when 2666 02:36:57.200 --> 02:37:00.959 you're in the flow state and you're writing, whether it's words, 2667 02:37:01.920 --> 02:37:05.079 you know, script to a podcast, a song, whatever it is, 2668 02:37:05.159 --> 02:37:06.840 if you just get in that flow state, yeah, it's 2669 02:37:06.840 --> 02:37:09.639 literally feels as though you're channeling. And I got to 2670 02:37:09.680 --> 02:37:13.040 think that if you can channel good things, you can 2671 02:37:13.120 --> 02:37:16.440 channel bad things, you can channel anything in between, and yeah. 2672 02:37:16.479 --> 02:37:19.120 I do think a lot of this insanity comes from 2673 02:37:19.120 --> 02:37:22.520 that for sure. Whether that makes me a scientologist or 2674 02:37:22.559 --> 02:37:25.920 a gnostic, I doubt, but they do run with those 2675 02:37:27.159 --> 02:37:27.760 notions of. 2676 02:37:28.520 --> 02:37:33.799 Truth behind every big scam I guess. But thanks for 2677 02:37:33.959 --> 02:37:36.799 joining me for this series. I really appreciate it. 2678 02:37:39.840 --> 02:37:41.200 Do you feel you're welcome? 2679 02:37:41.479 --> 02:37:44.879 Do you feel more or less insane after covering. 2680 02:37:44.559 --> 02:37:51.920 This neither same amount of insane. 2681 02:37:52.760 --> 02:37:55.040 I feel like I learned some stuff that. 2682 02:37:55.559 --> 02:37:57.600 Oh, it was very fun researching. 2683 02:37:58.079 --> 02:38:00.000 Yeah, I was gonna say, I feel like I learned 2684 02:38:00.120 --> 02:38:04.079 some stuff I would have never imagined to find. Actually, 2685 02:38:05.760 --> 02:38:10.559 but we'll keep you posted on the bonus episode depends 2686 02:38:10.600 --> 02:38:13.239 if I have a baby hanging halfway out my badge 2687 02:38:13.360 --> 02:38:15.680 or not, if we could get that accomplished. 2688 02:38:15.799 --> 02:38:17.520 If it's hanging three quarters of the way out, we'll 2689 02:38:17.520 --> 02:38:18.920 probably squeeze in an episode. 2690 02:38:19.159 --> 02:38:21.000 Squeeze in an episode if it's just. 2691 02:38:21.000 --> 02:38:22.799 Like barely getting there. 2692 02:38:23.120 --> 02:38:27.799 Yeah, but this has been a really fun series. Do 2693 02:38:27.879 --> 02:38:29.520 you want to plug anything. 2694 02:38:30.799 --> 02:38:34.799 Conspiracy? Playtime? Find it wherever? Yeah, that's not why I 2695 02:38:34.879 --> 02:38:36.879 do this. But if you want to listen to my show, 2696 02:38:37.559 --> 02:38:39.479 if you don't like me and when I'm with Julia, 2697 02:38:39.479 --> 02:38:41.280 don't worry about it. If you do like me and 2698 02:38:41.360 --> 02:38:43.159 you want to hear more, that'd be the place. 2699 02:38:44.360 --> 02:38:45.799 And he has an only fans. 2700 02:38:47.159 --> 02:38:50.399 Yeah, but it's on hiatus right now. My butthole doesn't 2701 02:38:50.440 --> 02:38:52.399 look good in the month of September. 2702 02:38:53.200 --> 02:38:56.159 But there are previous butthole shots you can go and 2703 02:38:56.200 --> 02:39:01.799 find on his only Fans. It's called spiracy be whole time. 2704 02:39:04.639 --> 02:39:05.159 It's late. 2705 02:39:06.600 --> 02:39:09.239 And I also wanted to shout out thanks for anyone 2706 02:39:09.280 --> 02:39:13.000 who had went on the registring and got us gifts 2707 02:39:13.079 --> 02:39:22.760 for Baby Conspiracy Peach. We appreciate it and thanks for listening. 2708 02:39:23.120 --> 02:39:27.040 And with that being said, I have one very important, 2709 02:39:27.239 --> 02:39:30.079 vital piece of information I need you to learn just 2710 02:39:30.239 --> 02:39:32.719 as soon as humanly possible. 2711 02:39:37.120 --> 02:40:02.079 Domini and it can likum domini Domini? Can it can 2712 02:40:02.200 --> 02:40:22.959 nicos a balu certain ritique bard Man per dominique converti 2713 02:40:24.280 --> 02:40:26.479 Domini can it can nicos. 2714 02:40:28.280 --> 02:40:33.120 Five four three two. 2715 02:40:34.440 --> 02:40:44.040 One, Hello, and welcome back to the third installment of 2716 02:40:44.239 --> 02:40:50.600 the Conspirassylum series. This is insane in the then brain. 2717 02:40:51.239 --> 02:40:51.680 I think. 2718 02:40:53.760 --> 02:40:54.760 This was your pick. 2719 02:40:55.079 --> 02:40:57.639 I picked that for the kture and it doesn't make 2720 02:40:57.719 --> 02:40:58.879 sense for the pop culture. 2721 02:41:00.079 --> 02:41:01.959 Should we what should we call it? 2722 02:41:10.959 --> 02:41:17.680 Sinecilo cinemania. 2723 02:41:20.680 --> 02:41:21.600 That's a good one. 2724 02:41:21.799 --> 02:41:21.840 No. 2725 02:41:22.159 --> 02:41:23.879 I was going off what you said, though, because I 2726 02:41:24.000 --> 02:41:27.959 was thinking, like I was actually thinking of me. I 2727 02:41:28.040 --> 02:41:29.879 was thinking of Mania, and I was trying to like 2728 02:41:30.120 --> 02:41:33.079 to put Hollywood in there somehow, and there's nothing was rolling. 2729 02:41:33.159 --> 02:41:35.040 And then as soon as you said sin asylum, I 2730 02:41:35.079 --> 02:41:42.120 was like, cinemania group aroup. Yeah, you will just start over. Yeah, 2731 02:41:45.639 --> 02:41:52.079 by four three two one, we'll think you're waiting for 2732 02:41:52.159 --> 02:41:52.760 something else. 2733 02:41:54.120 --> 02:41:55.639 Okay,