Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't
Be Serious podcast. If you did not hear are Huey
Lewis Part one, push pause right here and go back
to listen to that previous episode. This one, we're going
to go track my track through Sports. What I think
is their best album.
Speaker 2: I cannot begin to describe to you how excited I
am about this.
Speaker 3: I said it last episode.
Speaker 1: This is like.
Speaker 2: You've gone to your class reunion and you see the
girl you used to date and she's still hot, and
you're like, wow, how did I mess.
Speaker 3: That thing up? But that's the power of pluck.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 1: Nice, Thanks, that's s but it. Huey Lewis and The
News released Sports on September fifteenth of nineteen eighty three.
We talked last week how it is one of five
albums that reached the number one spot in nineteen eighty four.
Super Steep competition that.
Speaker 2: Year, Yeah, super steep competition. And these guys held their
own as a band. I mean all of these guys
had played the club circuit, had been going for years
and years and never made it until this album. And
then when they make it and they are successful, they
get criticized for their success. They're like, oh it's popular,
you know, it's uninspiring. And so this is the phrase
that I love that he said. Huels said, Nowhere is
it written that rock and roll has to be political
or change the world.
Speaker 3: One thing rock and roll has.
Speaker 2: To be is true, and if it rings true, it's right,
and that is this freaking album.
Speaker 3: Yes, Front of Bat love it.
Speaker 2: Okay, before we dive in, track by track, Okay, I
have to address the elephant in the room American psycho.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it.
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Speaker 1: Whack it.
Speaker 3: Perfect time.
Speaker 2: So you sent me a video which is fantastic, and
I really kind of want to play a clip from
it right now, but before I do, I'm going to say,
if you have not seen American Psycho, there is a
very well known part that whenever we talk about hue
Lewis on our Facebook page, somebody invariably quote, we're going
to hear a scene, right, So here's the scene from
American Psycho.
Speaker 3: You like Huey Lewis on the news.
Speaker 1: Their early work was a little too new wave for
my taste, and sports came out in eighty three. I
think that really came into their own commercially and artistically.
The whole album has a clear, crisp sound and a
new sine of.
Speaker 2: Consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a bag booze.
He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey
has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.
Speaker 3: And then this is so beautiful.
Speaker 2: Here's the scene that Huey Lewis did with our hero
of all heroes, mister Weirdo Yankovic. That is a parody
of that scene.
Speaker 5: Do you Like American Psycho.
Speaker 6: Although originally polarizing to audiences and critics alike, it developed
a much deserved cult following when released on digital video
disc or DVD. There it found a second life and
really came into its own commercially and artistically.
Speaker 5: The movie works both as a grim examination of male
vanity while also maintaining real genre thrills. Justifying these total
shifts by placing the audience inside the head of the
new he push just lead character Christian Bale's dynamite performance,
but gives it a big boost. The role almost went
to Leo, but nobody could have brought that certain athos
and charisma to it quite like Bail, a role he
later recalled a shade of in Christopher Nolan's Batman Pictures.
Speaker 2: Brilliant, I love it, brilliant, I love it. So you
kind of get the impression from the way the movie
goes is that they're kind of mocking Huey.
Speaker 3: Lewis in the news. He gave him permission to use
the song, right, and he listens to what he says
and he's like, he's.
Speaker 1: Right, He's absolutely right.
Speaker 3: We were kind of in our new wave phase. Now.
Speaker 2: Interestingly, the song doesn't appear on the American Psycho soundtrack.
They asked him to do it, and he was like, okay, sure,
what other songs are going to be in there? And
of course they put the Phil Collins song, which he
basically goes through the same bit with the Phil Collins song, right,
And he's like and and he goes, well, just in
the soundtrack, He's like, so two rock songs and then
orchestral music, right, And they're like yeah, and he goes,
I don't really feel like that's thin. Can you just
kind of pull at least say no, thank you. I
don't really think that our fans are going to go
buy and buy an album for one song.
Speaker 1: Doesn't really that song was hit to be square right right?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: And so when the album comes out, of course all
the news media says Huey Lewis pulls track off the
album because movie is too violent? Right right, I've digressed.
Let's get back to the album. Before we start talking songs,
let's talk about cover art. We talked about how awesome
Bruce Springsteen's cover, how iconic that is Huey Lewis's cover.
The album Sports has got a pretty iconic cover too.
Speaker 1: I mean when I see it, I recognize the right away. Sports.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said on the day that they shot this,
the guy who shot the pictures, his name is Bennett Hall,
and he's done several other albums.
Speaker 3: But he said, I was really hung over.
Speaker 1: That very well known Hue was dying that day.
Speaker 3: From a hangover. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine that your most well known picture of
all pictures that have ever been taken of you is
when you were.
Speaker 1: Really he looks pretty cheaper in the picture though, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't know until he said something. So the place
that they're at is a club in Mill Valley, California
that they used to play at called the two Am Club, Okay,
which the locals affectionately refer to as the Deuce the
Deuce Deuce.
Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, Okay, So I've got a small story with
the cover.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Up in the upper corner of the TV, there's a
football player making a catch. Yeah, okay, that's Dwight Clark
of the San Francisco forty nine ers, who, as you know,
I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan, and so I'm very aware
of Dwight Clark's catch against the Dallas Cowboys knocking them
out of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: And you mean the one where Joe Montana was just
throwing the ball away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is that your.
Speaker 3: Stance given the fact that you're a Cowboys fan.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't want to get into that
right now. But Dwight Clark, you know, Joe Montana to
Dwight Clark back at the end zone, he makes this
big catch and it starts the run of the forty
nine ers dominating the eighties. Okay, so the forty nine
ers and here you losen news are are They're fans
of each other?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 1: And so they befriend Dwight Clark and Joe Montana and
these guys actually in hip to be square. The guys
are going here, there, and everywhere. That's Dwight Clark and
Joe Montana.
Speaker 3: Get the heck out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say that for a four episode,
which I hope to do later on, but we'll cover
that then, toot. Dwight Clark in the later eighties would
give permission for Huey Lewis to be on the sidelines
for the forty nine er game, and Huey Lewis is
down on the sidelines. Okay, But Dione Sanders and Jerry
Glanville had all mc hammer on the sidelines and like
they'd gotten in trouble and it looked weird. And mc
hammer's out on the on the field high fiving people,
and so the NFL said, all right, no more.
Speaker 3: Of that is why we can't have nice things.
Speaker 1: You guys, Hammer screwed up for everybody, right, and so
and so Dwight Clark's, well, here's the deal. I'll give
you a forho talk ggrapher's pass on the sidelines, so
you like our photographer team photographer. So Huey Lewis is
like okay, and he's like, just just be cool, don't
do anything weird. So he's like, all right, fine, I'll
be cool. I'll just stay on the sidelines. And so
Hugh's down there with Billy Gibson, who's the drummer for
the news. The forty nine ers were blowing out the
giants and the cameras were starting to wander, and Hugh's like,
get out of here before we get anybody in trouble, right,
And as he turns to walk out, they pull Steve Young,
who's the quarterback of the forty nine ers off the field.
He's like, okay, you're done for the day. And Steve
Young as he's coming off field, cameras are all on him.
He's like hey, Hueye. He's like hey, He's like, what
am I going to do? The quarterback is yelling at
me right, and he's like, hey, Steve, how's it going?
And he's like, oh, give him a big hug, like hey,
Huey Lewis and Steve Young. So then the commentators they're like, hey,
John Madden wants to say hi to Huey Lewis, and
so he was like okay. So they hand him a
microphone and she's talking to John Madden and everybody gets
in trouble. So they find the forty nine ers for this.
But Carbon Policy, who is the president of the forty
nine ers, writes this very scathing letter to the NFL
because Huey Lewis is their spiritual advisor, and how dare
they would they write the same letter if Billy Graham
was on the sidelines. So Huey Lewis got the forty
nine ers find anyway Dwight.
Speaker 2: Bard spiritual leader of compared into Billy Graham.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: All right, we ready to dive track and I track
into this.
Speaker 2: Yes, let's do it. I can't wait any longer. My
Heart is Beauty.
Speaker 7: Boom boom boom, boom boom boom.
Speaker 1: The Heart of rock and Roll, released April tenth, nineteen
eighty four, was the third single on the album. It
reached number six on the chart. Okay, this is really interesting.
Take note of that number six. Okay, all right, now,
out of my curiosity, I'm like, are you kidding? An
iconic song like rock and roll doesn't reach top five?
So here's what was the top five the week that
this peaked at number six?
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Number one Time after Time by Cidey Lapper. Yes, pretty
iconic eighty song.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Number two let's hear it for the boy Denise Williams,
huge song off the Footloose soundtrack.
Speaker 2: Right, which had been number one just before. Number three,
Oh Sherry by Steve Perry, the journey sounding song that
he did solo that we talked about back in our
Frontiers episode.
Speaker 3: Go check that out if you haven't yet.
Speaker 1: Number four The Reflex by Duran durant.
Speaker 3: Ooh goss, huge all right, yeah?
Speaker 1: And number five Sister Christian by Night Ranger.
Speaker 3: Oh a great song. I mean, I'm sorry, Boogie Nights
is what I think about every.
Speaker 1: Go back watch Boogie Knights Enjoy Heather Graham.
Speaker 3: We haven't done anything on that one, but we will. Okay,
all right, let's do this. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So this song was written by Huey Lewis and Johnny Cole.
Johnny is a spectacular guitarist and also saxophonist.
Speaker 1: He's the sex guy.
Speaker 3: How many guys are doing saxophone song in the eighties?
Just a couple?
Speaker 1: How many are Huey Lewis.
Speaker 3: And Bruce Springsteen?
Speaker 1: Right, that's it.
Speaker 2: This has got a really similar style to Dancing in
the streets.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well because they have that city roll call at
the end of the song.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The creation of this song, So hue Lewis gets this story. Yes,
we talked about this a little bit. Yeah, Huey Lewis
gets this story that the heart of rock and roll
is in Cleveland. So he's like, I don't know about that, guys.
And so they go and they play this show in
Cleveland and the fans just blow his doors off, and
on the tour bus going home afterwards, he's like, you know, what, guys,
I think the heart of rock and roll is in
Cleveland And they're like yeah, and he's like, I think
that's a great title for a song. And they're like,
but now every time I listen to that song, uh huh,
you can hear the hard rock and roll is in Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So they had had a great show in Cleveland. You
should spawned this song. Yes, La is mentioned in this
but if you ask Huey Lewis, what's the worst you've
ever had where it's the worst place to play?
Speaker 3: He says, La.
Speaker 2: He said that they played a show. He said he
can usually tell what the review is going to be
of the show when they play, because if he feels
like it's a bad show, the reviews are going to
be bad and right.
Speaker 3: It always turns out right.
Speaker 2: So they do their first show in la he thinks
they do a great job. The next morning, the manager
is like, all right, everybody got a good review in
the La Times. You know, come on down for breakfast.
Not so fast to you. He apparently he got railed
this first show. He was like totally surprised, and he says,
so I'm just kind of like, wow, I really thought
we did a good show. But then a few months
later he's doing some recording. George Lucas has got a
recording studio at the Skywalker Ranch, right, so he's with
George Lucas. He's George Lucas is dating Linda Ronstad at
the time, who is there recording, and he's like, oh,
it nice to meet you.
Speaker 3: You know that they're doing their introductions. She's like, it's
so good to meet you. You know.
Speaker 2: We've got Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys come in
a little bit to sing on this song with me.
Speaker 3: Would you like to meet him?
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I love that because they were a
huge Yeah. Hugh Lewis was a huge Beach Boys fan,
right yeah. And so Brian Wilson comes and he's a
little awkward, he's got some issues, yeah, right, but he
starts talking to you Lewis. He's like, oh, yes, I
know you, I know you work.
Speaker 3: Oh I love it. He goes, I actually saw you
in concert. He's like oh really. When he's like in
the la he's like, which show did you see?
Speaker 2: And Brian was just like, I saw your very first
show at the very first one, and he goes, okay,
So tell me, truth, what did you think of it?
He goes top five, maybe top three live performances I've
ever seen in my whole life. Wow, and you Lewis
is like, screw the La Times. Brian Wilson just told
me that was one of the best shows you've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I don't care about the bad review.
Speaker 1: That is great. Brian Wilson, Beach Boys, that's awesome. Before
you move on, I got one quick story. Nineteen ninety
we had just played a baseball game after we had
a big win. We're traveling back home on the bus.
My coach was in an especially good mood because we won,
so he let us turn on the radio station. This
is in nineteen ninety, so think I mean, this is
Appetite for Destruction. This is Doctor Phil Good, this is Winger,
this is Para Metal, bon Jovi, New Jersey, this is
all this doff. So what comes on the radio but
Heart of rock and Roll. So when you're in high school,
when you're seventeen seven years ago, is eternity, but harder
rock and Roll comes on and one guy starts to
sing uh huh, and it becomes like the scene on
almost Famous. The entire bus of baseball players are belting
out harder rock and roll because everybody knows the words,
and our coach is.
Speaker 3: Amazed, that's fantastic.
Speaker 1: What agrees shout out it's Jinks high school Jing so called. Okay,
let's talk about the roll call at the end of
the song.
Speaker 10: Okay, Santa talk Livers down in Boston, a bad room, Lsa, Austin,
San Francisco.
Speaker 1: So at the end they list, you know, Tulsa in
Oklahoma City, Seattle, San Francisco too, the right, everywhere there's yeah.
So there's this roll call of cities, right, and so
the record company is like, hey, this is great. We
want you to make like specialized versions of this to
play for different radio stations around the country. And he
list is like, you know, okay, whatever, you know, whatever
helps the song, right, And he's like, how many you
want me to make? And they're like, well, let's see,
there's like one hundred and fifty radio stations, so like
one hundred and fifty. He's like, wait a minute, guys,
I don't you know you know, but I can tell
you for sure I grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Okay.
So the part where it says Tulsa Austin, Oklahoma City. Yes,
seat San Francisco too. That part on my home radio
station said Tulsa, Tulsa to Tulsa, Seattle, San Francisco too.
Really yeah, for sure, one hundred percent. So they have
all these different versions of the song and.
Speaker 3: They're thinking, like, did I hear a little rock or
Port Smith.
Speaker 1: I'm just yeah. I mean if you grew up New Mexico,
good chance you hear Santa Fe or something in there, right, Okay, yeah, okay.
So they came to him and they said, okay, super job.
We like the ultimate versions. Now we want you to
do Canada. He's like Canada. So so they came to him.
They're like, you know, Toronto, Montreal. He's like, okay, okay,
you know, and they're like Halifax. He's like, guys, I'm sorry,
the harder rock and roll does not belong in Halifax.
And he said, so he like put his foot down
on Halifax. I'm not singing Hall of fex. Then he
said he went and played Halifax. He's like, the place
is really cool.
Speaker 3: It's rock and roll. Yeahfax, harder rock and Roll.
Speaker 2: By the way, we didn't talk about the video on
Harder rock and Roll all I can remember is they
pack it with a lot of flash. Really kicks him
in the We might want to talk.
Speaker 1: About that, Okay, We done with harder rock and roll?
Speaker 3: Yes, all right?
Speaker 1: Moving on to the number two song on the album.
This song is called Heart and Soul.
Speaker 3: Yes, this is not an original. He would listened to
the new song.
Speaker 1: I know, and that blows me away. I didn't know
that before.
Speaker 2: There's yeah, I did not know it either. And obviously
this is one of their biggest ones. I mean, this
is the first video I remember seeing.
Speaker 1: This is the first single off the album.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah. Hardest Soul was written by Mike Chapman and
Nikki Chin. Okay, these are famous songwriters. They wrote I
Want to Kiss You all Over flashback to our Happy
Gilmour episode.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, okay, good throwback.
Speaker 1: They wrote better Be Good to Me by Tina Turner okay,
and they wrote Mickey by Tony Basil.
Speaker 11: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that's fantastic.
Speaker 12: So.
Speaker 1: The song was first recorded by Exile in nineteen eighty one,
and it was the title track on their album Heart
and Soul. This blows me away that in nineteen eighty three,
we're already re recording songs from nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 3: Well, it obviously wasn't a huge It didn't do.
Speaker 1: As well as they thought it should do, failed to
crack the top one hundred. So I heard Hugh Lewis
once again. They're looking for a hit, right, and they're
trying to cover their butt because their third album needs
to be a smash or the record company's going to
walk away. So they had all these songs and they're like,
we need one more hit. Okay, this is the pour
some Sugar on Me, same story, Okay, we need one
more hit. So he was talking to Mike Chapman because
Mike Chapman had flirted with producing Hugh Lewis in the news,
and he's like, hey, man, I need a hit. I
need one more song that I can be a hit.
And Mike Chapman is this song Heart and Soul we
think is pretty good, and so here you listened to
it and he's like, no, this sounds great, this is
a hit. You know I want to do this. Well,
it turns out out that Mike Chapman had given permission
for Huey Lewis to record it and this other group
called the bus Boys to record it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the bus Boys. The bus Boys are the Boys
are back in town. That's in Ghostbusters And in forty
eight hours they were like the band in Eddie Murphy's
All His Stuff. The bus Boys are huge.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, wow, that's good. I didn't know that. Yes,
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Again a throw forward to Ghostbusters coming up the bus Boys,
but sorry, go ahead, So yes, let's a license the
song of the bus Boys.
Speaker 1: So the bus Boys recorded that for their nineteen eighty
two album American Worker. But Huey Lewis he wanted to
hear the recordings of it, and when he heard it,
he thought, nah, version is better. So he was worried
about it until he heard it and he's like.
Speaker 3: Nah, well I can say this.
Speaker 2: When you look up Heart and Soul on Wikipedia, it
is a picture.
Speaker 3: Of hue Lewis's album Okay.
Speaker 1: Like we said, this was the first single. It was
released August thirtieth, nineteen eighty three. This reached number eight.
Uh huh, okay, number eight. Let's talk about the music
video for a second. Okay.
Speaker 2: This is one of the first videos I ever remember
watching Okay, and I really I think there was something
Huey Lewis is a guy who I think has looked
forty five his entire life. Like I saw pictures of
him when he was like in the high school basketball team,
and he looks exactly the same.
Speaker 3: It's now only that he's in his seventies.
Speaker 2: That he starts to look like he's fifty five, right.
He just has always had that same look. And so
I see this video of a guy who doesn't look
like the other people that I've seen on MTV in
a suit and tie. Yeah, and then he walks into
a place where everybody that's dancing looks like all the
other people that I've seen on MTV.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 2: And so it's got this actress in it called Sidney
Coleman Sydney Coleman. Yeah, and she had been I think
she was in a soap opera and she played like
a blind character in the cepoper.
Speaker 3: Okay, but she's she is very engaging this.
Speaker 1: Hey, she's in Heart and Soul. She's also the girl
he's chasing around in I Want a New Drug. And
the reason why they hired her her mom and Hugh
Lewis's mom were friends.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. There you go, So this video are we
ready talking for the video. The video is really weird.
Speaker 2: Yes, you've got all these weird folks who are lip
syncing the song as he's kind of in there checking
out this hot girl who's dancing, and then you see
is it Mario Cippolini, the that looks like the Vampire?
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on with this creepy dude.
I'm like, oh wow, he's actually a member of the band.
He's not just some weird character like the other ones
they have. And then at some point they're running along
and opening doors and you open he opens the door
and there he is with fangs out biting the neck.
Speaker 3: Of a girl, and they're like, what the heck and
close that door.
Speaker 1: Move on. Yes, very strange, interesting videos, all right. Moving on.
Third song on the album.
Speaker 3: That is Bad.
Speaker 2: This moment when this song came on when I listened
to this album again for the first time in thirty years,
and this song came on.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I know this song. I know
this song.
Speaker 2: I knew every single word, word for word, and I
haven't heard it in thirty years now.
Speaker 3: We talked about that this.
Speaker 2: Song was something that Huey Lewis had written before and
had been recorded by Dave Evan thank you, and wasn't good, right,
I mean it was okay, it was okay, it wasn't bad.
Speaker 3: It was very bluesy.
Speaker 2: This one's kind of a du they're even saying do
wop on it? Right, Absolutely, it's not got as much
harmonic on it. It's got more harmonies on it, which
as I understand that Johnny Cola is the one who
puts together their harmonies, which we got to talk about
for just a second. Okay, the blend of these guys
is fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean they're not any one of them fantastic singers.
They're not any one of them fantastic like expert musicians.
Speaker 3: They're just all good and they're good together. That's the key.
Speaker 2: And when they first started, when Bob Brown was pushing
it and Chris Liss was like, hey, okay, we'll sign them.
Speaker 3: But Chris list said.
Speaker 2: But they need to get rid of the drummer, the
drummer Bill Gibson yep. And after Huey Lewis's experience with
the bass player that threw up because he was on
LSD when he got fired, he was like, no, I'm
not going to fire it. Don't sign, don't sign us, yep,
I sign him anyway.
Speaker 1: That's super love the loyalty there. So bad is Bad
It was actually written, like you said, in the late
seventies while he was working with Phil Lenntt of Finn Lizzie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did a lot of harmonica work with Finn
Lizzie and we didn't mention this, but Clover after they
broke up, you know, they went on and recorded on
Elvis Costello's first really big album, and they offered Huey
Lewis to come and record with him, and he was.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I think I'd rather have a two week vacation.
Speaker 1: The interesting thing to me and I don't quite know
how all this works out. Yeah, but Bad is Bad
was not released as a single.
Speaker 3: Should have been, should have been?
Speaker 2: This is my favorite song on this album. Okay, it'
my and I just it's so good.
Speaker 1: So this song didn't chart because it wasn't released, right,
But they made a video for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a fantastic video. They're just kind of
walking around in the streets of San Francisco. Yeah, filmed
in March of nineteen eighty five. Weird, Okay, So I
got to say, at age forty five, listening to it now,
I didn't really understand what this song was about because
whenever I listened to it as a kid and he
said play the guitar like chainsaw buzz and it was.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, Yeah, that's awesome, that's cool.
Speaker 2: No, that's not what he means. Okay, sometimes bad, he's bad. Yeah,
yeah he meant that. The change I mean because I've
played guitar now, right, I was not a guitar player
when I listened to song the first time. If the
if it sounds buzzy, if the guitarsunds buddy buzzy.
Speaker 3: That means it's bad. It's got a.
Speaker 2: Thing you don't want, and so that that's bad. And
then I should have picked up on the the stew
is the yeah and all one dollar's worth is all
I could stand up.
Speaker 3: I just didn't get it. And then the.
Speaker 2: Final lyric in the song is a great Jimmy Hendrix's
redhouse style, which Jimmy Hendrix will come up here in
a second, yep, but it's this great. You know, I
tried to unlock the door style. What he comes in
the letter says, I love you hueye, but there's another.
Speaker 13: Strange pair of shoes yep, under my bed.
Speaker 2: So here we are three four three and in my opinion,
building like better and better and better.
Speaker 1: What are we great songs?
Speaker 3: But what are we going to see on number four?
Speaker 1: Okay, number four? Last song on side one heard of it?
I want a new drug. That double guitar at the
beginning of this is fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do a great pan from left speaker to
right speaker, top down, radio up.
Speaker 3: This is the song you want to be hearing.
Speaker 1: This was the second single, released January third, nineteen eighty four.
This reached number six. Still haven't cracked the tall five.
Speaker 3: Gosh, guys, is such a good song. I can't believe
that it didn't crack.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, right, Okay, So this song goes through every
side effect that you can think of. For Gruggy, I
know that you have no experience at all. I am
embarrassed to say that I do. I can understand every
bad side effect. There are no drugs without bad side effects, kids.
Speaker 3: None, right, he wrote, including love love.
Speaker 1: Does have Yeah, it's true it does. That's true.
Speaker 3: But that's what the song is truly about.
Speaker 1: Hugh He talks about it. It is about love. He said.
This song is not pro drug, it's not even anti drug. No,
it's just about love. Here's the interesting thing. Huey Lewis
wrote the song in a few minutes. Said he was
on his way to his attorney's house and he was
in the car okay, and he's driving and all of
a sudden, boom it hits. He's got it in his
head and he basically runs in and says, Bob, give
me a piece of paper, Give me a piece of paper,
and he writes it down. Yeah, that to me, that
blows me away. Like these guys are so creative that
songs just jump into their head. This song was covered
by our main man, weird Al Yankovic.
Speaker 3: Oh right.
Speaker 1: The song was called we Can't Let It Go by
I Want a New Duck, I want won, the world
trying to bite well, the world chew a hole my
socks one, the world quack all night.
Speaker 2: Which is why the end of that video where it's
Weird Al Yacavic and Huey Lewis together parodying American Psycho
is so brilliant.
Speaker 1: Last line, yep, brilliant, brilliant. Hey, I will tell you
just from personal experience. Okay, so I had this tape,
had a cassette tape.
Speaker 11: Huh.
Speaker 1: You know I told you my parents they analyzed my
music pretty good. My dad picked up the tape Harder,
rock and Roll, hard and Soul, Bad is bad, walking
on a Thin Line? All good?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wait, what's this song called? I Want a New Drug?
He had to pause and ask my uncle if it
was okay. My uncle gave the thumbs up, So now
I wore out.
Speaker 3: Sports way to go, uncle.
Speaker 1: I know, right, Okay, there's something at the end of
the song that I did not know until we were
driving in the car today to record this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember it from when I was a kid,
and I don't know how I knew it back then,
but I knew it. And yeah, as we're driving, I'm like, oh,
there's Jimmy Hendrix and you're like, there's who what what?
Speaker 1: I know?
Speaker 3: But here it is, and that's Purple Haze by Jimmy Hendricks. Guys.
Speaker 2: I don't know if nobody else noticed it but me,
but there you go, it's incredible. Any guitar, any guitar
stuff there is going to hear that and go, oh,
I know what he's doing there Again, these guys are
not masterful musicians. They just are out there having some
freaking good time.
Speaker 1: And they're tight throwing in fun stuff. Yeah, that's really
love it, love it. Okay, this is where we talk
about the lawsuit between Huey Lewis and Ray Parker. R.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the guys who are making Ghostbusters go to Huey
Lewis say hey, we'd like you to record a song
for the soundtrack, and he says.
Speaker 1: No thanks, but no thanks, yeah, writing a song called Ghostbusters.
Speaker 3: And then later the song that was written for Ghostbusters
that is called who You're Gonna Call? Ghostbusters? Yes, sounds
real familiar.
Speaker 14: Play it right here, Okay, something strange.
Speaker 3: Who You're Gonna Call? All right, it's unquestionable.
Speaker 2: It's a little faster, but it's absolutely unquestionably a copy.
Speaker 3: And I've heard Ray Parker talk about this. He did.
Speaker 2: It's not like he wrote that part of the song.
He had a guy who wrote it, but he didn't
want to throw him under the bus, right, It was
just like just came to me and it was a
cool sounding guitar riff. So I said, great, I can
write some lyrics to this and that's how the song
came about. That's right, but that's his name was still
the one on the lawsuit.
Speaker 1: So here's the interesting thing. I heard an interview with
Ray Parker. They settled out of court. Huey Lewis sued
Ray Parker Jr. And they settled out of court.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Okay for an undisclosed sum of money.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Now flash forward about like six, seven, eight, ten years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was quite a bit. It was like VH
one behind the music, it was, Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Huey Lewis is talking about how Ray Parker stole
their song I Want a New Drug and turned it
into Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this song is not for sale. And then he says,
but I guess it turns out it was because they
paid us for it.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Then Ray Parker Junior sues Huey Lewis because he was
he had some sort of note talk about it, deils.
Speaker 2: Most settlements are confidential, and by Huey Lewis saying they
paid us for it, he just said, what was the
confidential part? Which was a violation. As I understand that
there's been no resolution to that.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. This is because these are two songs that
I loved and could have on my entire life without
even really dawning on me that they were the same roots.
You know, I love that song Ghostbusters. I mean I
love I Want a New Drug.
Speaker 3: So funny song.
Speaker 1: But how that works out?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 1: Ray Parker Junior did say that Huey Lewis did have
to pay him for mentioning that on VH one. Behind
the music here you may have countersuit based on that statu.
Speaker 3: But it goes round and round. All right, enough of
this lawyer stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, a couple more things I want to mention about this, Okay, Okay,
So this, as we mentioned, I Want a New Drug
was actually put in as the tempt track for Back
to the Future.
Speaker 3: Okay. Oh, for the for the opening scene, ye.
Speaker 1: In the video, there is one iconic scene that you
mentioned to me, and I remember it's the head in
the ice water and that's from a movie yeah that
I didn't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the face in the nice water scene, yes,
probably the most memorable part of the video, right right.
I think it's from the Verdict with Paul Newman story
where he's drunk attorney and I think he wakes up
with a hangover and that's just cure for the hangover.
Is singing his head in a book of ice water.
I don't think it's the same like way he did it,
but I think that's.
Speaker 3: Where he got that.
Speaker 1: They didn't put a camera in the scene.
Speaker 2: You know that, But that's really the best part of
that is the best part. The bubbles coming and then
he's singing the song under the water.
Speaker 1: That is the coolest part. And as a kid, I'm like,
that is awesome. Okay, that's it for I wanted.
Speaker 3: A drug push stop on your tape player.
Speaker 1: Kick it out, flip it over side too. And we
started off with walking on thin Line.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm a third night, I look man, I pray
for the light and sometimes stir.
Speaker 3: So this is interesting how the song starts off. It
is different than the other ones.
Speaker 2: And I just want to point something out that we
haven't kind of pointed out as.
Speaker 3: We've gone along here.
Speaker 2: Okay, but every single one of these songs is a
different style of song.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: You know they came into the album thinking we want
any one of these to be a potential hit single, right,
trying to hit the top forty. So the first one
hard rock and roll, that's rock heart and soul is
pop rock. Bad is bad, that's like do up blues. Yeah,
and then you've got I Want a New Drug, which
is very new wave. And then we hit this one
with this awesome intro. You got different instruments introing each
of these songs. This one starts off heavy keyboards, like
the keyboards given the rhythm and then coming in with
the melody, and then it's really nice how the guitar
takes over that rhythm spot from the keyboard. But this one,
I don't know whether they call this rock or new
wave or new wave rock. It's just kind of its
own thing. But it's just amazing that these guys are
doing all these different styles of songs.
Speaker 1: We haven't even got to country yet, which we will
yeah on this side of the album.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. So this is the fifth single YEP, released October
ninth of nineteen eighty four. This only reached number eighteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was their least successful single.
Speaker 2: But this to throw back to our Bruce Springsteen episode,
this is They're Born in the USA. Not because it's
a big hit, but because this one is about what
it's like to be the Vietnam Vet that.
Speaker 3: Nobody cares about right.
Speaker 1: In fact, I called you the other day and I said,
which one of the songs on sports belongs on Born
in the USA? And we both agreed this one, This
is it?
Speaker 3: For sure? Yes?
Speaker 1: Not if this is it? Not? If this one? Yes.
Andre Pessis wrote this song. He also wrote this song
just Take My Heart by mister Big.
Speaker 11: Oh.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I remember that one. Yeah, mister Big was
kind of hot for a moment. They're they're nice to
Big for a second.
Speaker 1: They were mister balliy for a second. Yes, I've got
a great story about this song.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: So during live performances, Huey Lewis has been surprised before
by Chris Berman. He's a famous ESPN personality, so they
asked him, what do you get up on stage and
sing walking on a fin line with Huey Lewis. He said,
because if I sing Power of Love there'll be a riot.
And you know what, He's probably right?
Speaker 2: Okay, So interestingly, yes, and you say that this song
was the last single released off of this album, right,
The next single power of Love?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 13: Yes?
Speaker 1: Moving on, okay, the next song is called Finally Found
a Home. Okay, So this has got some strong guitar
work here at the beginning, right here.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, I love it. And it's an acoustic guitar
that they've got going.
Speaker 8: This could I mean, this could be a Tesla song
when it starts out right nice, I mean this is
and Tesla isn't coming along for a little bit now
right again, we have a completely different style of song
that they're doing here. And what I love about this
song is how it kind of sums up what's happened
to Huey Lewis at this point. You know, everybody expects
all of these great things from him because he's the
guy who got the eight hundred on the math portion
of the act, right, He's the guy who had the
promising pitch your arm. It was going to go to
you know, Winter Cornell was going to be a success.
Speaker 3: And then he spent.
Speaker 2: Eleven years failing around, right failing, only to have that
band break up and become a house band somewhere and
just by like I said, the best hustle move ever
manages to do it. But he always stuck with doing
what he loved. He didn't compromise what he wanted to do,
and ultimately he found his home in that song.
Speaker 1: Nice, nice, I love it. His hard work paid off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he finally kind of.
Speaker 12: And this one could have been a single.
Speaker 1: This is a great song.
Speaker 3: Love it.
Speaker 1: If this If you put this on you know, top
forty radio, and you put a cool video with.
Speaker 3: This, this is a hit. Yeah, I'm convinced. I'd love
to hear Tesla Singers song.
Speaker 12: Thin.
Speaker 1: That'd be good.
Speaker 2: We got to call Frank Hannon up. All right, would
you guys do a cover of this song for us?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're done with Finally Found a Home. Now
we're moving in to my favorite song on the album,
if this is it?
Speaker 4: All Right?
Speaker 1: That guitar right there, it just sings right, it's just
a it's just a melodic g tar and it's almost sad.
It's a great breakup song.
Speaker 3: You know. It is a great breakup song. That's rights.
Speaker 2: It is the perfect music to go with the lyrics
of this song because it is such a great song.
Speaker 3: This is solid guitar, but it's so hooky. Yeah yeah,
I mean.
Speaker 1: The line at the beginning, I feel the pain. I
heard you say, tell am, I'm not heartbreak? How does heartbreak?
Speaker 3: It is heartbreak?
Speaker 1: I feel the pain? Yeah, And I've been there, and
you've been there, we've all been there.
Speaker 3: I've never been there.
Speaker 1: Okay. So this was their fourth single, released April tenth,
nineteen eighty four. To me, this song is the summer
of nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 3: This song was on a lot all the time, a
lot for sure.
Speaker 1: So we are going through this incredible run through summer
of eighty four and this song was all huge.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, this is it.
Speaker 1: As we've gone track by track for this, yes, I've said,
pay attention to the chart toppers, yes, okay, and where
they finish Okay, Hard and Soul went to number eight,
Hard rock and roll number six, Yes, I want a
new drug number six. If this is it third consecutive number.
Speaker 2: Six, that's got to be frustrating, I telling you, is
it frustrating or is it like, yeah, we did it again.
I mean yeah, I mean I bet at number three
they're like, can we just crack the top five?
Speaker 1: I know, it's crazy. Well, so none of them reached
the top five.
Speaker 3: That's the power.
Speaker 1: All right on the way, and thankfully we got Power
of Love coming.
Speaker 2: So the video if you guys, anybody, if you can't,
if you're not calling the video right off the top
of your head. All I have to say is heads
buried in the sand, right, like the guys are buried
up to their necks rocking back and forth.
Speaker 3: That is this video right here.
Speaker 1: They have a lot of those silly kind of play videos.
It's really cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the guy who directed this video is a guy
named Ed Griles.
Speaker 3: Ed Griles, Yes, okay, Ed.
Speaker 2: Griles started He started making videos back in seventy nine
with Deep Purple and Rainbow, and then he also made.
Speaker 3: Videos for a group called Blue Angel. Okay, do you
know what singer game from Blue Angel now? She just
wanted to have fun?
Speaker 1: Cinndy Laupper was also.
Speaker 2: Huge in nineteen eighty four Age, which is, by the way,
the year that the MTV Video Music Awards started.
Speaker 3: And guess who directed Ed Ed Grives?
Speaker 1: Nice? Yeah, nice. I do have in my notes that
Ed Growls directed Hard Rock and Roll Stuck with You,
which is Hugeluis.
Speaker 3: Song off A four right off A four Yeah.
Speaker 1: Which is another great Hugul Louis album. And he also
directed girls Just Want to Have Fun and Time After Times,
not the Ozzy Osbourne version, right, Okay, all right, I've
got something that's gonna blow you away. This video, yes,
was shot at a beach.
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, how am I gonna phrase it? That is not surprising?
That was a colossal fail.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I'm gonna try to tea
this up a little bit better.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: This video was shot at a beach.
Speaker 3: Yes, hang on, hay on him. I'm waiting with hadd bread.
Speaker 1: This video was shot and set at an amusement park
on the beach. Okay about a movie that we've already covered.
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Shoot, does this ring a bell with you at all?
Speaker 3: Okay, so beach movie that we've covered?
Speaker 1: No, what movie have we covered? Where the action takes
place at an amusement park on the beach?
Speaker 3: Lost Boys?
Speaker 1: The Lost Boys?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Same beach? Wow?
Speaker 1: The Santa Cruz Crui Boardwalk murder Capital of the World.
Hue and the boys are lucky to get out of there.
Speaker 2: Os after four attempts.
Speaker 1: On that one.
Speaker 3: Hey, blew my mind?
Speaker 1: There we go. Didn't want to blow that. Okay, let's
talk about the women in this video.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Yeah, you got two ladies, one that's ready
to get rid of him and one that's ready to
take her spot. Okay, the pretty one, the one that's
ready to get rid of him is Jane Across.
Speaker 1: Janet Cross was Babe City in nineteen eighty four, the
white swimsuit, the burnette. You know, she's walking around with
different boyfriends all the time, breaking hue Less's heart.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: She is now a renowned New York architect.
Speaker 3: What wow? Yes, okay, yeah, that's awesome. That is good.
Speaker 1: She was hoping that this video would kind of be
your big break. Didn't pan out for her, so now
she's an architect in New York City.
Speaker 2: Wow, you got something on Sandra Wilder, Jeene Wilder's niece.
I can tell you that she was also in a
Scorpions video and also in The Woman in Red, which
starred Kelly.
Speaker 1: LeBrock and Jeanie Hey. Maybe right, maybe yeah, okay, No,
Jean Wilder's not as really it's Frankenstein.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that was so good. That was so good.
Speaker 1: All right, done it?
Speaker 3: This is yes, this is it for this is it?
Speaker 12: All right?
Speaker 1: Next one is called You Cracked Me Up?
Speaker 3: Okay, fantastic new wave beginning.
Speaker 2: This sounds like a car song, right, they've hooked into that.
Speaker 3: That car sound very cool synth intro.
Speaker 2: You know where you got the idea for all of
the horrible things that this person he's talking to tell me.
So this came from people who would try to meet them,
like after the show, like they'd come and meet them,
you know, try to corner them in the parking lot
or whatever. Before they were super big and famous, like
when they were playing at Uncle Charlie's, they would have
these people that constantly could just kind of came up
and just did all of these annoying things, or were
obviously high or thought they were a star already, And
that's where they got all lyrics for this obnoxious person
that he's.
Speaker 1: Returned nice nice. This song was written after he met
with that young reporter from the Arkansas NY Denny So
too bad. This song is not about Denny, but it
could have been right right. This song was written by
Hu Lewis and Mario Sipalina. It's only one of four
songs on this whole album that wasn't released as a single.
Speaker 3: It's a great song, it's.
Speaker 1: It's not as good.
Speaker 3: No skippers on this out maybe one. Are you referring
to the last song?
Speaker 1: I am referring to the last song.
Speaker 3: Okay, we need to just jump right into it. Mister.
All right, Mink Williams is gonna come down and back
you for this.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, moving on to the last song. That
song is called Honky Tonk Blues.
Speaker 3: I can't believe that you hate the song.
Speaker 1: I don't hate it.
Speaker 3: You're skipping this, I'm it.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this is like, this is like a
sleep at the Wheel. Roy Benson, cold close personal friend
of Huey Lewis. This is bluegrass steel guitar at its finest.
Speaker 3: How can you be against the song.
Speaker 1: I'm just in a rush to get back to hard
rock and roll.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Okay.
Speaker 2: So this song was originally recorded by Hank Williams.
Speaker 9: I got the Huncle.
Speaker 11: Uncle Tom.
Speaker 10: And what I Got.
Speaker 3: His son has re recorded Hank Williams Junior.
Speaker 2: It was on Nitty Gritty Dirt Band nineteen seventy two
album Will the Circle Be Unbroken? It was a big
hit for Charlie Pride. It was on Waylon Jennings' nineteen
eighty two album Black on Black, and then Huey Lewis,
and then after Huey Lewis, The Pirates of the Mississippi
came out with it and got to number twenty six
on the Hot.
Speaker 3: Country Singles charts with this song. This is an amazing song.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to be impressed.
Speaker 3: Are you what? You're gonna make me blow a vein?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is not my style.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, you're not a country I'm not a
country guy either, but this is good.
Speaker 3: This is good country music, Okay, pleas.
Speaker 2: It shows the versatility of this band who's given us
pop and new wave and blues and do wop and
now they come and they they give us the honkyng Listen.
Speaker 1: This is versus country. They are showing off their versatility.
I cannot argue with that. It sounds like a great
country song. I'm just not a big country I would
rather have another new wave, pop radio friendly hit this.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can we exchange this one for power of Love and
just trade them right out?
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine, we turned off, We turned off. You're
kind of soured.
Speaker 1: I all experience. I am sorry, I am sorry.
Speaker 3: I can't believe you said there's a skipper. But that's
all right, You're just wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm just ready to get back to heart of rock
and roll, you know.
Speaker 3: All right? All right, fair enough.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is the end of the album. Yes,
HiT's stop on your tape player, kick an outflip and
I'll return it back to hard rock and roll and restart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, or grab your Back to the Future soundtrack
throw it in, because man, what a freaking good soundtrack
that was.
Speaker 1: We are into final judgment.
Speaker 3: Okay, am I going first?
Speaker 1: I went first last time, your first?
Speaker 3: This time?
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: So here's what I gotta say.
Speaker 12: All right.
Speaker 2: The songs on Huey Lewis and The News Sports are
all ear candy. They're wonderful, and it took me a
little while to fall in love with Bruce Springsteen Born
in the Usa, But I realized what the difference was,
and it took an experience of.
Speaker 3: Life to make happen.
Speaker 2: When I'm in my car and the sun is out
and it's summertime and I want to have fun, I'm
listening to Hugh Lewis in The New Sports when I've
just had an argument with my wife and it's late
at night and I'm driving fast and angry. I need
those deep picture painting lyrics of Born in the Usa.
Speaker 3: So which album I'm gonna pick When I'm walking out the.
Speaker 2: Door depends on which situation I'm in, all right, but
I gotta say as good as Born in the USA is,
and it is fantastic.
Speaker 3: It is fantastic.
Speaker 2: The lyrics, no question, better deeper lyrics. But for pure
listening pleasure, I got to pick Hue listen to the
new Sports So Good, so much a part of my
youth growing up.
Speaker 3: That's where it is for me. Okay, where you're at.
Speaker 1: Basically, that's the exact same way that I feel. Born
in the USA has deep, meaningful, poignant, serious even songs. Okay,
now there are a few exceptions. I think Glory Days
is great fun and it is ear candy. Yep, Glory
Days is a top down, turn it up.
Speaker 3: Song, my favorite favorite song of his.
Speaker 11: Overall, I think.
Speaker 1: I think so too right. You know, Born in the USA.
We talked about how that is a not quite what
you think it's about song, right, And then they have
some some more subdued songs like I'm on Fire and
Hometown and so Great, iconic, huge seller of nineteen eighty four,
deeply ingrained in the mid eighties. But for me, I'm
a feel good guy, and Huey Lewis is all about
feel good music. So if I'm walking out the door,
it would have to be a rainy, stormy day for
me to grab born in the USA over sports. Right
for me, it's almost always going to be sports.
Speaker 3: All right, we're on the same page again.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 3: That's I see.
Speaker 2: We've had a couple this year so far. Oh right,
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got coming up next?
Speaker 1: Okay, you thought this one was big? Yeah, nineteen eighty four,
Wait till we talk about next week. Next week is
Ghostbusters versus Gremlins.
Speaker 3: Fantastic.
Speaker 2: We've got more funny than scary monster type movies. Yeah,
sort of supernatural, gigantic in nineteen eighty four, I mean,
they were everywhere that you could not go somewhere without
seeing a mogwai or a slammer. Tune in for that,
Come back and listen in with us, join the fun.
Speaker 3: See you guys next week.