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Speaker 4: You see, something's going to happen?
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Speaker 1: What's going to happen?
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Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode. We have a
Speaker 1: packed house and even an overflow. I accidentally had two
Speaker 1: extra people come onto the show, so this should be interesting.
Speaker 1: We got twelve and I'll have to toggle to in
Speaker 1: and out. But yeah, it's a Cult Rejects Live and
Speaker 1: we got a fun ton of people in different shows
Speaker 1: here and I'm just gonna have them. We'll go through
Speaker 1: their names and plug their shows and steat of reading
Speaker 1: it off. But first we'll start off with the Occult
Speaker 1: reject and mad scientist as Olf Lisa, what is going on?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 7: How's it going? Thank you, and thank you to the
Speaker 7: fellow rejects for also having me. I'm really excited to
Speaker 7: engage in this discussion. And the only thing I'd like
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Speaker 1: Net awesome, thank you very much and appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 1: And then we got Hank. What is going on? Hank?
Speaker 1: How wire you?
Speaker 8: What's going on?
Speaker 9: Brother? I appreciate you having me.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yeah, you want to let everybody know
Speaker 1: what's up where they can find you? Stuck?
Speaker 10: That probably help. Yeah, I'm at the six four three
Speaker 10: double Play, but me and Kyle have a joint venture.
Speaker 10: You can find us on Rumble at Sunday Night double Play.
Speaker 1: Awesome and thank you very much making it. And now
Speaker 1: we got Kyle aka Chef. What is going on? My man?
Speaker 1: Please let everybody knows?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Happy Friday.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Currently we are kind of focusing on the Sunday Night
Speaker 11: double place, so you can find us over at Rumble, Spotify, Apple,
Speaker 11: all the patchers, all the all the fun jazz, and
Speaker 11: thanks for having us.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and what is your schedule? Normally do Sunday
Speaker 1: nights and Friday Night's live right or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of a long story.
Speaker 11: So I had a Sunday Night Secret Society kind of
Speaker 11: going through some changes right now. My old my old
Speaker 11: co host is unfortunately living on the streets right now.
Speaker 11: And Hank's co host actually passed away, and so him
Speaker 11: and I linked up in the midst of all the
Speaker 11: all the fuckery, if you will, and so yeah, here
Speaker 11: we are all right.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for making it. I appreciate it. And
Speaker 1: Nick of course, and next love we got Julia Cosmic Peach.
Speaker 1: What is going on?
Speaker 12: What's up? Thanks for having me, Nick. I can feel
Speaker 12: it coming in the air tonight. This is gonna be
Speaker 12: a good one, Cosmic Peach. Wherever you listen to podcast,
Speaker 12: Thanks for having me. Is it the usual?
Speaker 1: Awesome? No, thank you for joining us. Oh, he's appreciating
Speaker 1: your input and what you bring to the show for sure.
Speaker 1: And you know what, let's do. Ethan Indigo, sir, what
Speaker 1: is going on?
Speaker 9: Peace on Earth?
Speaker 13: Everybody honored to be here and be involved. This is
Speaker 13: going to be a really epics story with some localism
Speaker 13: and some nationalism and maybe some worldly stuff I can
Speaker 13: tell from what I heard. Yeah, Ethan Indigo Smith, writer
Speaker 13: on esoteric and exoteric, and I'm on all the usual
Speaker 13: suspects of the social media and honored to be here
Speaker 13: with everybody.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you very much, Ethan. I appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 1: And we got the man himself, the Headless Giant. What
Speaker 1: is going on?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 14: Thank you Nick. You can find me on Twitter and
Speaker 14: YouTube just look up the Headless Giant. And also if
Speaker 14: you have any occult slash paranormal slash weird dream stories,
Speaker 14: you should email them to me. I read them on
Speaker 14: Thursday nights. My email address is Headless Giant Podcast at
Speaker 14: gmail dot com and tune in check it out. It's
Speaker 14: a good time. It's only about thirty minutes. But I've
Speaker 14: also got a show with Ethan on Sundays called The Trialogue,
Speaker 14: also with Roberto, so check that out.
Speaker 1: Thanks just to check that show out of people having it,
Speaker 1: it's a really good show. And we got Brooke from
Speaker 1: doarg Florida. What is going on?
Speaker 2: Broke, Hello, fellow rejects. Happy to be here tonight.
Speaker 15: I'm really looking forward to the discussion and seeing where
Speaker 15: it takes us. You can find me on Instagram at
Speaker 15: Dark Florida Podcast and wherever you listen to podcasts.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you very much, Broke. And we got my
Speaker 1: boy Tyrone. What is going on? My man? Please let
Speaker 1: everybody know what the hell is up?
Speaker 8: Yeah, what's going on? Man, what's up everybody?
Speaker 16: I just want to say thank you for having me
Speaker 16: here rebirth atword dot com.
Speaker 8: That's everything that you can find about me.
Speaker 16: You can get my book Journey through the Origins of
Speaker 16: History on Amazon went best selling.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I said, appreciate.
Speaker 1: It, man, Thanks awesome, thank you, thank you, And we
Speaker 1: got Phil. What is going on? Bro?
Speaker 9: Not too much? Has everybody doing tonight?
Speaker 1: Wonderful?
Speaker 8: Wonderful, excellent?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just you know, just a reader, Researcher's been lucky
Speaker 3: to be on your show a few times and I
Speaker 3: love being able to talk conspiracies, history, deep history.
Speaker 5: And I'm on Twitter with Vic Foster.
Speaker 9: No, I don't call it x but just happy to
Speaker 9: be here and whatever the subject is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, thank you. I appreciate it. Isn't it if
Speaker 1: there's other content creators out there that I don't know
Speaker 1: who this guy is. Check out the work he's done
Speaker 1: on my show. When e we on JJ's show. He's
Speaker 1: really good at at certain things that he covers. This
Speaker 1: this guy reads a book that he enjoys, soill remember
Speaker 1: all of it pretty much. So thank you very much. Phil.
Speaker 1: You have brought some amazing stuff to the show as well.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you, and I think we're done and
Speaker 1: I think we're finally onto the man of the next whatever.
Speaker 1: I and a haf whatever, two hours whatever we got
Speaker 1: Matthew Lane, What is going on, sir? How are you?
Speaker 9: Nick?
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. Kind of a
Speaker 2: dream come true.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 2: I've been following a lot of you guys for quite
Speaker 2: a long time, so it's an honor to be sitting
Speaker 2: here talking to all of you today. I kind of
Speaker 2: have no idea how this is for me, So hopefully
Speaker 2: I can knock this out of the park and get
Speaker 2: through it without bouncing around too much, because I promise
Speaker 2: you this information I'm about to lay out is dense.
Speaker 2: There's a lot and uh, it goes all over the place.
Speaker 2: But yeah, dude, let's let's get into it.
Speaker 17: Yeah, miss Nick?
Speaker 1: Oh, who's ap? Oh? Jules? Fuck, I'm so sorry. You
Speaker 1: know it was from moving everybody around. Fuck my life, dude.
Speaker 18: I'm here a lot eloheem, entomologists, sound scientists.
Speaker 5: I got a lot of shows that I do.
Speaker 18: You can find me on Twitter, great pulled pod, go
Speaker 18: over to Patreon.
Speaker 17: We'll be doing some stuff over there a couple of
Speaker 17: times tomorrow.
Speaker 18: So Yeah, it's always a good time over there and
Speaker 18: hang out with the rest of the grapst Uh yeah.
Speaker 9: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 18: It's a packed house nixt me and very interesting to
Speaker 18: see where this conversations go.
Speaker 1: Like I've said, it happened before where Headless actually had
Speaker 1: a type in the fucking chat one time. I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you forgot about so and so.
Speaker 7: Please forgotten about me too? U.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Matthew, Uh, what's this topic?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: How did we come across this? What's up?
Speaker 2: Okay? So I've been, you know, slowly looking at the
Speaker 2: world around me after listening to all the podcasts, hearing
Speaker 2: all the different stories, the old world, Tartaria, just everything
Speaker 2: that's been popping up. If you listen to conspiracies, like
Speaker 2: even once every month, you're coming across this stuff. So
Speaker 2: I've just been heavily noticing a lot lately. I've been
Speaker 2: having a lot of random things kind of fall into
Speaker 2: my lap. And I'm the type of person who I'm
Speaker 2: the only person in the room that I know who's
Speaker 2: looking at things. Let's flip that upside down and take
Speaker 2: another look at it before we just come to a conclusion.
Speaker 1: People.
Speaker 2: So I was just fiddling around on Facebook. I came
Speaker 2: across a random post from my local kent Ohio Facebook page.
Speaker 2: There's a young gentleman who was looking for a memorial
Speaker 2: art in Towners Woods of my hometown of Kent, Ohio.
Speaker 2: This art was supposedly dedicated to the four dead, the
Speaker 2: four who were slain on that day by our National Guard.
Speaker 2: And I'd been in those woods quite a few times.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything back there. I didn't know what
Speaker 2: the hell this kid was talking about. And a few
Speaker 2: days later he finds it. He posts the pictures of it,
Speaker 2: and when I looked at it, my mouth hit the floor.
Speaker 2: I was looking at four stone pillars and a portal,
Speaker 2: a big metal disc with a tear ripped out of
Speaker 2: it that almost fit the shape of these stone pillars. Now,
Speaker 2: instantly I said, okay, four stone pillars, that's phallic. We
Speaker 2: got a portal that is you're telling me represents the
Speaker 2: death of four students. I just felt like there was
Speaker 2: some kind of energetic ritual going on just with that
Speaker 2: art in those woods, because I know those woods also
Speaker 2: have Indian burial mountains all over the place. There's at
Speaker 2: least three. One of them had an ancient Indian princess
Speaker 2: buried in it. So this area is highly energetic to
Speaker 2: begin with. So I see these pictures and instantly I
Speaker 2: was just saying, I gotta look back into the whole
Speaker 2: May four shooting again. I can't just look at this art.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to learn everything now. And I started.
Speaker 2: The first thing I started looking at, though, was I
Speaker 2: came across the artist to actually put the art in
Speaker 2: the woods. His name is Christopher Cosma or Chris Cosma.
Speaker 2: He was a student at Kent State after the shootings
Speaker 2: in seventy four. He was an art student and Kent
Speaker 2: State wanted to put up a memorial. They had commissioned
Speaker 2: some actually really big artists back in the seventies. I
Speaker 2: can't remember the name of the guy. He wanted something
Speaker 2: really gaudy. It almost looked like an ancient god making
Speaker 2: a sacrifice. And they're like, no, we can't put that up. Sorry.
Speaker 2: So this young student said I could do it, and
Speaker 2: I can do it for way cheaper, so they allowed
Speaker 2: him to do it. And back in the seventies, Towners
Speaker 2: Woods wasn't woods quite yet. It used to be a
Speaker 2: farm land that was given back to the city, so
Speaker 2: they reforested it. So when the artists decided to build
Speaker 2: this memorial, he also put it up with the intent
Speaker 2: that trees and shrubs, everything's going to grow around it,
Speaker 2: so eventually it's going to look like it's been there
Speaker 2: for a very long time. And I'm telling you, these
Speaker 2: pillars almost look like witches towers. They're very peculiar. I
Speaker 2: started looking into to the artists more. And I'm the
Speaker 2: type of person if you notice my t shirt drew missing,
Speaker 2: we look at people's names and their meanings when we're
Speaker 2: watching movies and TV shows and looking into stories. Chris
Speaker 2: Cosma's last name means to invoke change, and I thought
Speaker 2: that was pretty interesting. So fast forward, I'm looking into
Speaker 2: his art. I google his name and I start getting
Speaker 2: all this art from him. This guy has these i
Speaker 2: won't say mural that him and his wife put together,
Speaker 2: these beautiful, decked out pieces of wal art. It's like
Speaker 2: the entire wault is the art. They cost millions of
Speaker 2: dollars and they're created from stone, metal, glass, and crystal.
Speaker 2: They have art in thirty rock Chrysler Empire fifteen to
Speaker 2: fifteen Broadway, which is where this Chris for Cosmo lives. Okay,
Speaker 2: they've all over the city and it's all worth millions,
Speaker 2: millions and millions of dollars. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: Nick still in the chat, if you can show anybody
Speaker 2: some of these pictures that you can search them up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, any way you can send them to them.
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't have them quite on my laptop phone.
Speaker 2: Let me I can send them to you on Instagram
Speaker 2: real quick.
Speaker 1: But I think also, is there some banging going on
Speaker 1: in your house or something? Because I muted everybody else,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now that shit's loud. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can see them.
Speaker 1: I mean they're taking a roll down. They're doing like
Speaker 1: taking ch Rock off.
Speaker 2: No, I'm hoping they're going to be done soon. Let
Speaker 2: me see if I could do like I know, the
Speaker 2: fourth of July ended like two weeks ago. What are
Speaker 2: we doing here? Uh, let's see. So there's parts there
Speaker 2: art in thirty Rock. It's called a tribute to Light,
Speaker 2: And if any of you have been around long enough,
Speaker 2: we know that light is a reference to Lucifer. And
Speaker 2: within that art itself, I found the numbers nine and
Speaker 2: eleven hidden within the art, Like the number nine is
Speaker 2: clear as day, and there's two lines that run right
Speaker 2: across it. God man, wish I could bring it up
Speaker 2: real quick. Let me see, Can I I have it
Speaker 2: on my web page right now? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Wee?
Speaker 2: Can I share it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 19: All right, boy, give me a second.
Speaker 1: Yeah, click share on the bottom and then chef screen
Speaker 1: probably a show screen. I'll ask you like a tab
Speaker 1: or a window.
Speaker 19: I don't see it.
Speaker 1: What's your you throw your throw your website into the
Speaker 1: private chat. I'll pull it up on my end and perfect.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I also found out that he had a
Speaker 2: cross made out of the Twin Towers literal pieces of
Speaker 2: scrap metal from the Twin Towers he put together and
Speaker 2: then put it in Saint Peter's Saint Petersburg Church. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to find it here, so you know what.
Speaker 19: I bring it up went second, guys, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: You see with the private chatties on the side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that. I'm just trying to get it
Speaker 2: to come up real quick. So recently, I actually I
Speaker 2: reached out to the artist and emailed me back and
Speaker 2: said I prefer to have a phone conversation with you.
Speaker 2: He gave me his phone number and I called him.
Speaker 2: He talked my ear off for two hours.
Speaker 1: Was he like weird like he.
Speaker 2: Had He was not not really weird. He was definitely
Speaker 2: excited to tell me everything about the art and some
Speaker 2: of the stuff he told me though, Like he instantly
Speaker 2: told me, Uh, now, I want to let you know
Speaker 2: that the stone pillars they have nothing to do with
Speaker 2: phallic symbolism. Offer it. Oh, like, well that makes me
Speaker 2: think it was.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, it's always dicks, that's all. But that's all it.
Speaker 1: Every rays is dicks, right. The guy wants to be lying,
Speaker 1: So it's always just fucking cox, That's all it is.
Speaker 1: What it is, fucking ignorant every single time.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I am not dude.
Speaker 19: I can't get it to come up now.
Speaker 1: It's like, I want to be honest with all the
Speaker 1: guys on this panel right now. Does any of your
Speaker 1: dicks actually look like an obelisk? Does it have a
Speaker 1: point at the end like that? Does it look like that?
Speaker 1: Because mine doesn't?
Speaker 20: All right, it sounds like it would be painful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know how, like you know, having
Speaker 1: birth would actually you know, work well with your dick
Speaker 1: looked like that?
Speaker 14: But you know, the original the original Washington Monument was
Speaker 14: supposed to be a giant column, So it was supposed
Speaker 14: to be one huge column, but they went with the
Speaker 14: obelisk instead.
Speaker 2: It had a whole other.
Speaker 14: Garden of columns around it, so it's it's kind of
Speaker 14: interesting that they went with that one instead. It's also
Speaker 14: interesting that I guess they had a different design for
Speaker 14: this one and then they switched to this other one.
Speaker 14: So it seems like maybe the important works of art
Speaker 14: usually get scrapped the first time and then they switch
Speaker 14: over to something else.
Speaker 12: Isn't that why they call it the blade, right, the
Speaker 12: symbolism for manhood. They call it the blade in the
Speaker 12: chalice for the womb. So everybody just thinks their dick
Speaker 12: is like a pointed object unless they're uncircumcised, and it's
Speaker 12: more like, you know, obviously rounded true, somebody gets some
Speaker 12: uncircumcised dick.
Speaker 2: Art the money thing. That's about this too. I'll jump
Speaker 2: to this real quick. While this was happening in Kent,
Speaker 2: right down the road, literally down a road called fifty
Speaker 2: nine in Kuyahoga Falls, there's this. It was one of
Speaker 2: the first real big TV evangelist churches. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Rex Humburg I think was his name, and he built
Speaker 2: this church in Kyahoga Falls, and he envisioned building this
Speaker 2: huge tower called the Church of Tomorrow. Is supposed to
Speaker 2: kind of look like the Seattle Space needle and have
Speaker 2: like a big cathedral on the top of this huge tower.
Speaker 2: Well he never finished building it, and now it just
Speaker 2: looks like a ginormous, extra large smoke stack for no reason,
Speaker 2: and it's sat there for Reverend. It's the biggest eye sort.
Speaker 2: It's there for no reason that I don't even think
Speaker 2: they use it for much, But it was just weird.
Speaker 2: After seeing this portal and knowing about that tower, I
Speaker 2: kind of came to the conclusion that they use events
Speaker 2: like this to power bigger events. When I did a
Speaker 2: podcast with Troubles about this topic recently, he kind of
Speaker 2: helped me figure it out. It's almost like baseball season.
Speaker 2: You got local events that are happening, and that's your preseason.
Speaker 2: You got bigger events happening, like maybe maybe in big,
Speaker 2: big cities, you know, for me, like Cleveland, there's big
Speaker 2: news happening in Cleveland, but like the rest of the
Speaker 2: country is not paying attention to Cleveland. Right, that's your
Speaker 2: season games, But then then you got your playoffs and
Speaker 2: that's when there's bigger events like Kent State. People are
Speaker 2: everyone's paying attention to it, right, but then you have
Speaker 2: your Super Bowl, your nine to eleven's, your Oklahoma City bombings.
Speaker 2: And I honestly think that the portal in the woods
Speaker 2: that I found, just imagine how many people has walked
Speaker 2: through that portal since the seventies who believed four people
Speaker 2: on Kent State's campus were murdered. That's some kind of
Speaker 2: energetic exchange, in my opinion, and they're using those energies
Speaker 2: against us.
Speaker 20: What's the portal again, It's.
Speaker 2: Just a big metal disc. What the artist told me
Speaker 2: is he took like a he went to a scrap
Speaker 2: yard and they had like an oil tanker and he
Speaker 2: cut the end off of it to get this big
Speaker 2: metal disc in a big circle, and then he cut
Speaker 2: a hole in it. And the hole is kind of
Speaker 2: shaped like a person walking sideways through it almost and
Speaker 2: then again like when you look at the pillars, because
Speaker 2: he made it out of a concrete, he made out
Speaker 2: of multiple things. He even put metal in it, iron
Speaker 2: in it to make sure moss would grow on it
Speaker 2: to get at the appearance of looking older. So he
Speaker 2: thought it out very well, but it almost looks like
Speaker 2: the shape of these weird oblong tall pillars. They're very
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, guys, they're still blowing off the fucking fireworks. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: the portal, and then his art in New York City,
Speaker 2: I believe it's in the Chrysler building he has the
Speaker 2: it's just like this little glass mural and it looks
Speaker 2: like shark fins swimming in a circle with a black
Speaker 2: hole in the middle, looking like a portal. So this
Speaker 2: guy knows what he's doing. When you're making portal art
Speaker 2: like that constantly, you know what you're doing. And if
Speaker 2: you go to his Instagram, it's just Chris Chris Cosma.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have a lot of his art on there.
Speaker 2: It's just some like paintings and maybe sculptures that he's done.
Speaker 2: But even that, it's very strange. He's got paintings, abstract
Speaker 2: paintings of red squares, and to me it made me
Speaker 2: instantly think Saturn the way the pictures presented. And then
Speaker 2: it's just like basic watercolor paintings of two blue pine trees,
Speaker 2: two pines. What has everyone been talking about recently that
Speaker 2: involves two pines? Anyone? No? Back to the future, the future? Yeah,
Speaker 2: so as soon as I saw that painting, I knew
Speaker 2: what that was. That it's literally just two triangles with
Speaker 2: a little line. It looked like two pint two blue
Speaker 2: pine trees sitting next to each other. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's he trying to represent with that? Because that is
Speaker 2: the only thing that my brain links it to, so
Speaker 2: that I definitely think even once I started looking into
Speaker 2: the events that took place on that day, the names,
Speaker 2: the people involved, the time stamps, the amount of shots fired,
Speaker 2: it's all one big occultic ritual. And I'm here to
Speaker 2: tell you all that nobody died that day, not a
Speaker 2: single person.
Speaker 12: Oo. There it is. I knew it was coming.
Speaker 2: Nobody's dying in these events.
Speaker 20: Guys staged as a motherfucker stage.
Speaker 2: It's all stage. And I'm gonna tell you I did
Speaker 2: a lot of my research out of this book. It's
Speaker 2: called The Fourth of May Killings and cover Ups at
Speaker 2: Kent State, written by William A. Gordon. He was a
Speaker 2: student at Kent State ended up becoming an editor or
Speaker 2: a writer at the Akronbeacon Journal. Just a little bit
Speaker 2: before I came out on this show. I came to
Speaker 2: the conclusion or the realization that even this book is
Speaker 2: total fucking bullshit. It's trying to point out to you
Speaker 2: that the National Guard murdered four people, shot nine others,
Speaker 2: paralyzed one of them, and got away with it. They
Speaker 2: didn't get away with shit because it never fucking happened.
Speaker 2: The author put all the court hearings and everything in
Speaker 2: this and even comments constantly about how they're getting off easy.
Speaker 2: They're not asking the right questions, the FBI isn't doing
Speaker 2: the right research. Within this book, he also says there
Speaker 2: was FBI informants on campus that day. Now, my friends always.
Speaker 12: Asked, does he talk about the victims in the book?
Speaker 2: Like? Not too much? I really not too much. I
Speaker 2: honestly had to google a lot about the the victims.
Speaker 12: Like are we sure that there even real people? Like
Speaker 12: do they have a cousin?
Speaker 1: Do they have moms?
Speaker 2: Do they have Yeah, they had parents, but I could
Speaker 2: not find anything on the parents other than these are
Speaker 2: the parents of.
Speaker 13: May I ask you, what are your thoughts on the
Speaker 13: audio that came out?
Speaker 2: If you're familiar, are you talking about the recordings of
Speaker 2: the shootings?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so what he's asking very specifically, Yes, this
Speaker 2: is where that when I started looking at this, I
Speaker 2: knew I was onto something. We had thirteen seconds of shooting,
Speaker 2: sixty seven shots fired, four people dead, nine injured. That's
Speaker 2: thirteen thirteen thirteen. I'm gonna break this down for you too.
Speaker 2: The distance that they were all hit before who died.
Speaker 2: Give me one second. Here's the distances. They were all
Speaker 2: shot at three hundred and thirty feet two hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty five feet. Six plus five is eleven plus two
Speaker 2: is thirteen. Sandy Williams was shot from three hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety feet, but on Wikipedia it doesn't say the feet,
Speaker 2: It only says one hundred and thirty yards.
Speaker 19: There's your thirteen.
Speaker 2: And William Schroeder was shot at three hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: two feet. Eight plus two is ten plus three is thirteen.
Speaker 2: Make it makes sense, guys, And are any of you
Speaker 2: familiar with mister John Lee Chalbeck and his seventy seven research.
Speaker 2: Yesd yeah, yes, John Lee talks about Kent State. Not
Speaker 2: only was the number thirteen just everywhere right there, but
Speaker 2: it was seventy seven men and John Lee missed this part.
Speaker 2: Seventy seven men of Troop G. That's the seventh letter
Speaker 2: marched up Blanket Hill stood next to a pagoda, marched
Speaker 2: down the hill into the courtyard, made a circle, came
Speaker 2: back to the pagoda, turned around, started shooting out. During
Speaker 2: the volleys of shots, a big metal sculpture outside of
Speaker 2: Taylor Hall, which is on the highest point of campus.
Speaker 2: So there's another they shot from the highest point on campus. Guys,
Speaker 2: we're talking about mounds. In my opinion, I think Kent
Speaker 2: State was built on a giant mound. The whole area
Speaker 2: is hilly, like beyond belief, and the buildings look very
Speaker 2: you know that, they look very Greco Roman like, the
Speaker 2: pillars and everything. But Taylor Hall sat on the tallest
Speaker 2: hill on campus, exactly where they shot from, next to
Speaker 2: a pagoda. More symbolism. But when they shot, they hit
Speaker 2: a metal structure sculpture. And as a kid, when they
Speaker 2: took us to campus to teach us about all this,
Speaker 2: we had to take a you know, a piece of
Speaker 2: paper and do the coloring of the outline of the
Speaker 2: bullet hole. And I can tell you, even as a child,
Speaker 2: I knew that wasn't a bullet hole. Somebody just drolled
Speaker 2: a fucking hole in it. So even as a kid,
Speaker 2: I kind of I just always knew there's something.
Speaker 14: Sorry, man, they actually traumatized the kids and made them
Speaker 14: put their fingers on the bolt.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 2: The memorial on camp, there's there's multiple memorials on campus,
Speaker 2: but the main one is literally they basically all were
Speaker 2: shot dead in a parking lot, so they just they
Speaker 2: built They put little pillars around that parking spot so
Speaker 2: no one can park there, and they light up at night.
Speaker 2: So literally, you walk past where these dead bodies fell.
Speaker 2: And I grew I grew up on that campus, dude.
Speaker 2: I rode my roller, skates, my bike, I played basketball
Speaker 2: with the college kids growing up. I went to summer
Speaker 2: camps on that college. It's ingrained into my brain. Now.
Speaker 2: Along with that, I want to tell you guys something.
Speaker 2: Out of the four students who died, two of them
Speaker 2: went to JFK high schools in different states. Just a coincidence,
Speaker 2: I guess. So all four of them were Jewish, just
Speaker 2: a coincidence. I saw that, and every year that they
Speaker 2: have a memorial, it kind of turns into like a
Speaker 2: Jewish celebration. But I would want to show you guys
Speaker 2: this on the inside of the cover. I looked up
Speaker 2: as soon as I looked at this it kind of
Speaker 2: reminded me instantly of Daily Plaza. So this is kind
Speaker 2: of the map that the where the buildings are at
Speaker 2: right the direction they walked the trees. Are you guys
Speaker 2: familiar with King Kill thirty three? They pulled off the
Speaker 2: same ri here King Killed thirty three. In that book
Speaker 2: he basically states that everything about Daily Plaza and the
Speaker 2: whole event with JFK being shot was a ritual down
Speaker 2: to the shrubbery. The trees had symbolism, the bushes have symbolism,
Speaker 2: the names of the buildings have symbolism. I'm telling it
Speaker 2: was that King Killed thirty three ritual, except they didn't
Speaker 2: go after one person. Now there's stuff in this book
Speaker 2: too where it literally states how this was all pre planned.
Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan was even quoting saying, if it takes a
Speaker 2: bloodbath to get them to knock it off, then that's
Speaker 2: what it's going to take. And if you look up
Speaker 2: the most famous picture that was taken on that day,
Speaker 2: it's of a fourteen year old runaway from Florida who
Speaker 2: ended up in Kent just so happened to have made
Speaker 2: friends with three out of the four victims and was
Speaker 2: standing right next to him when he died. Can we
Speaker 2: say perfect fucking photo op. If you just go to
Speaker 2: Google and type in the girl from Kent State, the
Speaker 2: picture will come up. It won a pulitzerprise. It's her
Speaker 2: bent over this dead body, screaming. And there's another picture
Speaker 2: I found from a different angle. The man who got shot,
Speaker 2: his name was Jeff Jeff Jeff, Sorry Jeff, I forgot
Speaker 2: your last name, Jeffrey Miller. He supposedly got shot in
Speaker 2: the mouth. And when you look at the blood splatter
Speaker 2: on the ground, it literally looks like somebody took a
Speaker 2: big bag of fake blood, cut it and just dragged
Speaker 2: it across the ground. It's like a perfect It's literally
Speaker 2: this wide of blood just dragged across the ground in
Speaker 2: a straight line. Looks like somebody took a paintbrush and
Speaker 2: painted it on the ground. Almost just to give you
Speaker 2: that effect and to ring true of what Ronald Reagan's
Speaker 2: words were as governor of California, if it takes a bloodbath,
Speaker 2: and that's what we're going to give them out the
Speaker 2: events leading up to this day, May fourth, Now, this
Speaker 2: was on a Monday, class was in session, Students just
Speaker 2: walking the class got hit. Supposedly it was the weekend
Speaker 2: prior that was very telling as well. Starting on Friday,
Speaker 2: a biker group came to town during the protests and
Speaker 2: the riots that were supposed to just be on campus,
Speaker 2: somehow it moved downtown Kent, where there was fifty three
Speaker 2: plus bars in our small downtown area, and a biker
Speaker 2: game gag called the Chosen Few showed up doing biker
Speaker 2: tricks in the streets and then people started breaking glass,
Speaker 2: smashing windows, starting fires, looting stores. Well, cops ended up
Speaker 2: getting everything sorted out the next day. Pretty much on Saturday,
Speaker 2: the same thing happens, just not downtown. What really started
Speaker 2: all of this was the attack on the ROTC building
Speaker 2: on campus. It was put up during World War Two. Okay,
Speaker 2: it was made out of just wood, so it was rickety.
Speaker 2: It was really old, and it was ready to go
Speaker 2: up at any minute. Anyways, the events that the author
Speaker 2: in this book described, he paints the picture pretty much
Speaker 2: as everyone involved, including the firemen, the police, the sheriffs,
Speaker 2: and the people trying to burn the building down, seemed
Speaker 2: like they were all working together but trying to make
Speaker 2: it seem like they weren't. The people who burnt down
Speaker 2: the building were dressed in all black. You can see
Speaker 2: their faces. They barely knew how it took them, like
Speaker 2: forty five minutes to even get the fire started. And
Speaker 2: let's ask the question, why did it take them forty
Speaker 2: five minutes if the firefighters and the police were already present.
Speaker 2: So once the fire was caught on I'm sorry, once
Speaker 2: the building was caught on fire, the firemen basically let
Speaker 2: it burn down. They barely even put it out. The
Speaker 2: very next day, the National Guard gets called. The governor
Speaker 2: of Ohio, Governor Rhodes at the time, comes to town,
Speaker 2: takes a nice little photo op with the burnt down building,
Speaker 2: and they all have a meeting in the fire fire department.
Speaker 2: You got the head chief, chief of fire, the chief
Speaker 2: of police, sheriff, the governor, the mayor, and anybody else
Speaker 2: who was important enough to be in that meeting was there.
Speaker 2: And that happened on Sunday, the day before the shootings.
Speaker 14: Matthew, this sounds exactly like a military training exercise, like
Speaker 14: they're just going beat by beat by beat at the
Speaker 14: right time to you know, fit into the to the program.
Speaker 14: So you know, in a military training exercise, they would
Speaker 14: take you through each step even though it wasn't fully necessary,
Speaker 14: you know, yeah, go.
Speaker 2: Ahead, Julia.
Speaker 12: Oh, I was just gonna say, anybody who spread program
Speaker 12: to kill their ears are just burning because this sounds
Speaker 12: like the nineteen sixty six Charles Whitman, Texas when he
Speaker 12: went up to the tower at the school and just
Speaker 12: started like blowing people's heads off like that. To me,
Speaker 12: this this is like just a few years after that.
Speaker 12: So it's it's kind of like they're running the same kind.
Speaker 2: Of thank you game. Troubles just said. So, there there
Speaker 2: was a there was this group called the Weathermen. I
Speaker 2: believe they were out of Michigan. They were a black
Speaker 2: rights activist group, and they were rumored to have been
Speaker 2: coming to Kent that day that Saturday. No one ever
Speaker 2: saw them but some but nobody ever saw who the
Speaker 2: fuck burnt down the ROTC building either. They even made
Speaker 2: a movie about it. Years later, in nineteen eighty one,
Speaker 2: they made a movie and this is Treble's favorite. On
Speaker 2: August eighth, an eight day, they brought out a made
Speaker 2: for TV movie depicting the ROTC building being burnt down.
Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna read a quick quote out of
Speaker 2: the book. They looked like Kluk Klux Klansmen, only they
Speaker 2: were dressed in black. Each mysterious figure tossed the torch
Speaker 2: into a window of the building, thereby standing a conflagration.
Speaker 2: The camera then shifted to the cutesy female radical, who
Speaker 2: turned to her clean cut boyfriend and asked, who are
Speaker 2: these people? Her friend shrugged? Who are these people? Her
Speaker 2: friend shrugged and whispered, I don't know, with an air puzzlement.
Speaker 2: That was just a quick scene from the made for
Speaker 2: TV depicting the events.
Speaker 14: That's the process. Sure, they dress up in those wild outfits.
Speaker 14: They do that all the time. And they were very
Speaker 14: closely associated with the weatherman, so they could have just
Speaker 14: been going as the weatherman.
Speaker 2: Une. I mean, I don't know, because I never even
Speaker 2: heard of the weathermen.
Speaker 12: But but why, but why did they burn down the
Speaker 12: r O t C.
Speaker 2: As basically as the reason to get the National Guard
Speaker 2: that was once that down? Very that very Yeah. The
Speaker 2: very next day, the governor came to town, who was
Speaker 2: already losing his campaign against William Taft's I think I
Speaker 2: can't remember. It was a Taft, you know, descend into
Speaker 2: the president Taft who was also running for governor of
Speaker 2: Ohio against this guy. So one This solidified A. Rhodes's governorship.
Speaker 2: Uh you know that that fucking photo op too burning
Speaker 2: down the r O. T. C. Building was you know,
Speaker 2: it got it got too violent. Things that are being burnt down,
Speaker 2: We got to bring in back up. As soon as
Speaker 2: thing burnt down. The National Guard came in town, into
Speaker 2: town the very next day, and they worked the shit
Speaker 2: out of those boys. Most of those National guardsmen were
Speaker 2: younger than the age of twenty four, and they were
Speaker 2: up all night Sunday night before the massacre. They got
Speaker 2: maybe an hour asleep before they were woken up and
Speaker 2: told to go to start shooting or to start patrolling.
Speaker 2: And they patrolled for quite a while, you know, with
Speaker 2: students throwing rocks at you and sticks, and you know,
Speaker 2: none of these guys have ever seen combat before either.
Speaker 2: So what whether in my opinion, if they had, if
Speaker 2: the guardsmen weren't queued in on it, maybe they slipped
Speaker 2: fake bullets in their gun, you know, duds. Well, you
Speaker 2: gotta think about this in terms of a lot behind it.
Speaker 14: You got to think about counterintelligence. So this is the
Speaker 14: perfect rear guard action to take the attention away from Vietnam.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Now I'm gonna get into too a few
Speaker 2: more things real quick. I'm gonna because I want to
Speaker 2: get everybody else's opinion on this too. So we had
Speaker 2: multiple things that also took place that hit the media afterwards.
Speaker 2: It was one of the girls who were shot was
Speaker 2: said to been pictured putting a flower in the barrel
Speaker 2: of a gun and saying flowers are better than bullets.
Speaker 2: Anybody familiar to that.
Speaker 11: You've seen it in the media, isn't Isn't that like
Speaker 11: a famous picture?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Also it's also the opening scene of The Watchmen. They
Speaker 2: don't tell you that scene when the girl puts the
Speaker 2: flower in the end of the barrel of that gun
Speaker 2: and then they all get shot. That's they're basically to me,
Speaker 2: that's one hundred percent Kent State that they're representing in that. Now,
Speaker 2: another person who was shot that day, he wasn't killed,
Speaker 2: he was paralyzed. He ended up becoming a politician. I
Speaker 2: won't get too much into him, but his story too
Speaker 2: is crazy. Sorry, I.
Speaker 7: Don't know if this has already been asked. Was there
Speaker 7: a name given to the alleged shooter from the Ohio.
Speaker 2: Nation, No, it was the entire National Guard twenty three
Speaker 2: men fired.
Speaker 4: Okay, and wasn't there Something wasn't And maybe I'm mistaken.
Speaker 4: This wasn't there some alleged rumor that a sniper had
Speaker 4: fired on the guardsmen from the r O T TH.
Speaker 2: No, No, the r O T C was already burnt down.
Speaker 2: It was already a pile of rumble. That happened on
Speaker 2: Saturday night, and then the shootings happened, uh Monday, Okay,
Speaker 2: sorry about that. Yeah, no, you're good. Yeah. So that this,
Speaker 2: this event itself infiltrated culture on a big time level.
Speaker 2: People all over the world started rioting over this. But
Speaker 2: the funny thing is about this, once things started dying down,
Speaker 2: this event basically was the changing point from the sixties
Speaker 2: into the seventies. You went from the sixties being the
Speaker 2: civil rights movement, all these civil rights riots, all these
Speaker 2: war riots and protests, to all culminating to the spring
Speaker 2: of nineteen seventy. The springtime is a great time to
Speaker 2: do a ritual when you want to start something new,
Speaker 2: isn't it Well, about time we get a new decade going,
Speaker 2: isn't it. So they kill four students on their own campus,
Speaker 2: injured nine more. Most of the protests went out the
Speaker 2: window after that, because then two weeks later, two more
Speaker 2: people died at Jackson State down in Alabama.
Speaker 3: Had something happy, So I think to a degree, like
Speaker 3: because right after you ad Nixon does the midnight you know,
Speaker 3: the late night visit to the Lincoln Memorial after Kent State,
Speaker 3: and you also have not that long after the Houston
Speaker 3: Plan being developed amongst.
Speaker 5: The intelligence agencies, which was going to be like involving.
Speaker 3: Further black bag jobs and kind of like centralizing the
Speaker 3: information they gathered.
Speaker 5: And the only thing that stopped it.
Speaker 3: Supposedly was Jay Edgar Hoover, who was towards the end
Speaker 3: of his you know, evil life and was the one
Speaker 3: who kind of said, no, we're not going to do it.
Speaker 3: And Tom Houston was only like twenty something years old.
Speaker 3: But it was supposed to be like taking all the
Speaker 3: information from CIA, FBI, DA, all these groups and trying
Speaker 3: to pinpoint exactly where the funding was coming from for
Speaker 3: basically the protest movement, like they thought it had to
Speaker 3: be from like Russia, like it had to be communists,
Speaker 3: you know, it was still some of that it.
Speaker 17: Was coming from us.
Speaker 2: All it comes from us. We're funding our own protesters
Speaker 2: to protest against us. Yeah, and it's to me, it's
Speaker 2: just they they pull off rituals to invoke change. Reading
Speaker 2: good question, go ahead, And.
Speaker 15: It's about the ritual aspect of this. So you were
Speaker 15: saying that you really didn't think that anybody actually died
Speaker 15: in this, But if they were pulling off a ritual,
Speaker 15: and I get with these false flags, a lot of
Speaker 15: people don't die. But wouldn't actual bloodshed fuel the ritual
Speaker 15: and not just the act of it. Do you think
Speaker 15: that there might have been some actual victims in there,
Speaker 15: maybe not what we.
Speaker 2: Were told, at least some And in my opinion, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, I've been looking at all these different events
Speaker 2: kind of through this microscope for a while. They still
Speaker 2: have Karmen to deal with, So I think it you
Speaker 2: don't have to I get the blood shed aspect, everyone
Speaker 2: behind it.
Speaker 17: It's probably enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the attention. Like I said, I think we've
Speaker 2: all been watching movies too much. We have we have
Speaker 2: to see that bloodshed for the ritual to be powerful.
Speaker 2: I don't think it actually works like that. I honestly
Speaker 2: think their lies, tricking us invokes more energy for them.
Speaker 1: M hmm. I was going to say, I'm saying if
Speaker 1: you kill four people, but you have billions.
Speaker 2: Now they have the karma on them. Why would you
Speaker 2: want that karma on you?
Speaker 18: And everyone thinks that you killed four people anyway, So
Speaker 18: in a sense that ritual would work as well, right,
Speaker 18: because perception is reality, and yeah, no, you usually see
Speaker 18: there's always something that's a cultic behind all of these
Speaker 18: uh false flag.
Speaker 14: It's a great way to launder bodies, you know, if
Speaker 14: you've got to get rid of some other bodies and
Speaker 14: then make them think that it was killed in this
Speaker 14: other shooting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. No, I'm also the
Speaker 2: reason why I'm finally because for the longest time I
Speaker 2: was riding the fence like, yeah, they probably did die,
Speaker 2: but I grew up in Kent and and now I
Speaker 2: kind of live in Akron, Ohio, home of Judith Resnik
Speaker 2: familiar nineteen eighty six challenger Shuttle you know, also didn't
Speaker 2: die in her tragedy. So why it's not far fetched, guys,
Speaker 2: And it's only fifteen minutes down the street from each other.
Speaker 12: They just got to make you think that for people died,
Speaker 12: no bloody massacre in there. Get blood and guts. We're
Speaker 12: all in the place. Yeah, Yeah, I mean that that
Speaker 12: makes sense to me. As long as they can get
Speaker 12: the masses to believe that there was this bloody, horrible,
Speaker 12: gruesome thing that happened, it doesn't really have to happen,
Speaker 12: you just need to believe that it did.
Speaker 16: Then he's going to say, I want to say, you know,
Speaker 16: if you look at rituals and ceremonies, what is it
Speaker 16: mostly of show? Basically, it's entertainment, something that gets people's
Speaker 16: mind and ideas flowing. And that's why you have different
Speaker 16: theories in what's going on. I'm not saying that this
Speaker 16: didn't happen, but I'm just saying that richels and ceremonies
Speaker 16: is all about entertainment.
Speaker 18: I was gonna say, then we're setting up the ritual,
Speaker 18: the place, the time, the symbols, used everything that Matthew
Speaker 18: was talking about earlier, h to get this energy pool,
Speaker 18: this reaction from everybody you know, and at a mass
Speaker 18: consciousness scale, is would be a hell of a lot
Speaker 18: of energy.
Speaker 8: I'd say.
Speaker 2: Now, let me tell you a little bit about Kent
Speaker 2: City real quick. We have the Kyahoga River that runs
Speaker 2: through it and on opposite sides of our downtown main street,
Speaker 2: the river obviously is at the bottom. We got two
Speaker 2: hills that go up on Main Street. On one side
Speaker 2: we have a Masonic temple that was built by Marvin Kent,
Speaker 2: who was a railroad entrepren newer. He brought the railroad
Speaker 2: into Kent to make it what it is today and
Speaker 2: under the After looking into the history of Kent, it's
Speaker 2: in my opinion that Marvin Kent stole Kent from the
Speaker 2: previous family who settled this area and had it named
Speaker 2: after them, the Haymakers. Marvin Kent was from Connecticut, one
Speaker 2: of the many prominent men who moved out east to
Speaker 2: Ohio to settle. He was also good friends with Carnegie Mellon.
Speaker 2: Carnegie donated money to Marvin Kent to build our city
Speaker 2: library that still stands today. Kent also has something called
Speaker 2: Standing Rock and was Standing Rock Cemetery. And in the
Speaker 2: back of Standing Rock Cemetery the Cuyahoga River flows and
Speaker 2: there is a giant rock you can fit thirty people
Speaker 2: standing on it in the middle of the river with
Speaker 2: absolutely no other rocks near it. And it was well
Speaker 2: known for being a meeting place for native tribes. All
Speaker 2: the tribes in the area would come and congregate and
Speaker 2: meet at this one rock in Kent, Ohio. So the landscape,
Speaker 2: the Indian Mounds, standing rock, it's all screams geomancy and
Speaker 2: energy rituals.
Speaker 12: To me, Kent is actually only a couple hours away
Speaker 12: from like Serpent Mound in Ohio, and like a lot
Speaker 12: of these.
Speaker 2: A little bit. Yeah, Serpent Mounds more towards Cincinnati, but
Speaker 2: there's no three hours away.
Speaker 12: Maybe if I'm remembering right, three and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 12: like three three and a half. But I'm just saying
Speaker 12: the whole area is actually kind of supercharged with some
Speaker 12: ancient weirdness. And it's like you said, maybe like a
Speaker 12: Native American or whoever, whoever came before.
Speaker 20: Them that you know, they always.
Speaker 12: Say, oh, the Native Americans built these mounds, and they're like, no,
Speaker 12: we didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 12: So whatever whatever was going on in this area, it's
Speaker 12: it's anciently old and on.
Speaker 17: Certain lay lines or something. Because you know that could.
Speaker 2: We're right just outside the fortieth parallel. Yeah, we're bad.
Speaker 2: I tried. I even went on Google Earth to see
Speaker 2: because I really was like something was telling me like
Speaker 2: this is connected to nine to eleven. You just need
Speaker 2: to see if there's any parallels, and I kept looking
Speaker 2: at it, and I even went as far to see,
Speaker 2: like how close are we New York, And the Twin
Speaker 2: Towers are like right on the fortieth parallel. We sit
Speaker 2: a little bit above it. So it's almost a straight shot,
Speaker 2: you know, just got to go a little bit south,
Speaker 2: but it's mostly just a straight shot east. And Route
Speaker 2: seventy six, good god, I always forget about this. Route
Speaker 2: seventy six starts right outside of Akron, Ohio and ends
Speaker 2: in New Jersey, but it right outside of Kent seventy
Speaker 2: six thirteen and Kent's exit is exit thirty three. I
Speaker 2: even found markers in old news articles back in the
Speaker 2: fifties and nineteen fifty one, they put a news just
Speaker 2: a small little snippet about Kent State's growth, and it
Speaker 2: said Kent State now has one hundred and nineteen thousand
Speaker 2: students enrolled, with eleven head of faculty members, with thirty
Speaker 2: three buildings on campus. Could you get more a cultic
Speaker 2: with those numbers there? And for anybody who.
Speaker 12: Does say about Bob Dylan in this little article, right.
Speaker 16: Oh okay, so yeah, so yeah, he was talking about
Speaker 16: some black people and underground the weather man Underground. So
Speaker 16: the weather Men Underground weren't just a black group of individuals.
Speaker 8: They were a mixture of different individuals.
Speaker 16: The Black Panthers and them actually worked together at a time.
Speaker 8: They had an alliance.
Speaker 16: So that's probably why you've seen them with So this
Speaker 16: article from I guess nineteen sixty nine, the Bob Dylan
Speaker 16: that you was talking about, let.
Speaker 8: Me see because that zoom be in on it.
Speaker 12: Go up a little bit. His name was in blue,
Speaker 12: go up on it right there. So they're connecting Bob
Speaker 12: Dylan to this movement.
Speaker 8: Well they're saying, uh, let's see.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the weather Underground, the Weathermen, they were off
Speaker 3: few to the students of a Democratic Society and by
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy the did I don't know, I mean, I
Speaker 3: think what's the named John Kodash in his book CIA
Speaker 3: is the Drugs Weapons Against Us said like LSD, when
Speaker 3: it got introduced to people like Bernadine Dorn and what's
Speaker 3: the name Bill Ayers, they kind of went a little
Speaker 3: bit more violent. Like Bernadine Dorn was on record cheering
Speaker 3: the manson murders, that's what you need.
Speaker 9: To do sort of thing.
Speaker 12: Justn't a couple of c I a fuckers. Wasn't taming up.
Speaker 7: Just real quick? Wasn't weather Underground formulated ann arbor with
Speaker 7: Michigan State.
Speaker 3: The Lake Turan. There was like some sort of like
Speaker 3: conference they had there. That's I think like it was
Speaker 3: like a formative meeting for them.
Speaker 7: The reason because I bring it up is because Miller
Speaker 7: had trans one of the one of the alleged victims.
Speaker 7: Miller had transferred from m s U to Kent State
Speaker 7: in that year, and he had he had done some
Speaker 7: protesting prior to his Ken State protesting at m s U,
Speaker 7: didn't he.
Speaker 2: Not that that's correct, That's exactly correct. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: believe he was also one of the two who went
Speaker 2: to JFK High schools.
Speaker 7: And he was supposed to transfer to New York where
Speaker 7: he was encouraged to transfer to New York. And I
Speaker 7: believe the other one of the girls, Alison, she was
Speaker 7: in a relationship with Barry Levine or something her to
Speaker 7: transfer to New York as well.
Speaker 2: We also had the same name as her mother's maiden name, Barry.
Speaker 2: I thought that was weird. So all four of these
Speaker 2: people who died were connected, they all knew each other.
Speaker 7: So Barry Levine he wasn't the TV producer, is he?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if that's the same guy.
Speaker 2: There's so much more interesting stuff I can tell you, guys.
Speaker 2: Well here's one because Trouble's mentioned it. Thank you so much, Troubles.
Speaker 2: Just the year prior. Kent State is well known for
Speaker 2: having a breakthrough in LCD technology studies. That's a billion
Speaker 2: dollar tech industry now. Best believe when college campuses who
Speaker 2: are studying high tech stuff like this, especially liquid crystal
Speaker 2: back in the seventies, best believe the CIA showed up
Speaker 2: on those store steps of Kent State. I couldn't find
Speaker 2: anything on it. Well, let's just use our brains here.
Speaker 2: A billion dollar tech industry. RCA being one of the
Speaker 2: biggest companies who picked up the tech from Kent State
Speaker 2: and ran with it.
Speaker 12: I did not know that that's crystal.
Speaker 2: Liquid crystal was created at Kent State. Yes, so that
Speaker 2: that's a huge part of the story too. I think
Speaker 2: I just haven't really broke through to found the connections
Speaker 2: because there's so many names, there's so much dicking I
Speaker 2: have to do. Quite honestly, I think I need to
Speaker 2: go to Kent State and just raid their archives. But
Speaker 2: I got to find the time for that on top
Speaker 2: of all this research, I got a full time job
Speaker 2: over here and bust them up butt.
Speaker 8: So that article is Bill Ayerrs.
Speaker 13: I believe I just saw Bill Ayerrs in that article.
Speaker 13: He was related to our former president Obama. I guess
Speaker 13: they had connections in Chicago.
Speaker 8: Not necessarily well.
Speaker 13: He was president, but it's interesting I saw that name.
Speaker 16: There, yeah, right here right, bring that back up.
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, Bill Airs.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Bill Airs and.
Speaker 3: Bernadine Dorn were Chessa Bowden surrogate parents. When Chessa Bowden
Speaker 3: the future DA of San Francis day DA of San Francisco,
Speaker 3: his mom Kathy was on the run for I think
Speaker 3: a Brins truck heist because at one point, like the
Speaker 3: Weather Underground went from bombings to just kind of like
Speaker 3: split up either on the run or being involved with
Speaker 3: you know, members of possibly what was left to the
Speaker 3: Black Panthers and you know things like that, and getting
Speaker 3: in all sorts of drug induced chaos or possibly controlled chaos,
Speaker 3: you know, being about you know, feed operations for all
Speaker 3: we know. But yeah, Bill, afterwards, him and Bernardine dorm
Speaker 3: wound up being like Barack Obama's advisors in one form
Speaker 3: or another, the Chicago connection.
Speaker 2: Real quick. I kind of skipped this point to some
Speaker 2: numbers of the day. When the troops started their descent
Speaker 2: up blank Blanket Hill, down the hill and walked back.
Speaker 2: It started at twelve twenty and ended at twelve twenty four,
Speaker 2: So they took a four minute stroll and turned around
Speaker 2: and murdered four people. And more numbers for you. It
Speaker 2: just keeps adding up. But then even throughout history, they
Speaker 2: keep reusing these numbers. Eventually, back in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: on twelve to two, twenty twenty two, Hen's most famous building,
Speaker 2: the Star of the West Mill, the start of the
Speaker 2: West Mill burnt down. I don't know what relevance that has,
Speaker 2: but just all those numbers just keep lining up with
Speaker 2: Kent for some reason, and even in my own life
Speaker 2: the numbers twelve twenty two I constantly see it. I
Speaker 2: don't know why I even catch it in movies so
Speaker 2: that those numbers are important. It was in the movie
Speaker 2: Leave the World Behind, the scene where they're sitting in
Speaker 2: the car they have the guns drawn a little sticker
Speaker 2: in the very front of the window. It says twelve
Speaker 2: twenty two on its stupid shit like that always pops
Speaker 2: out at me. But we know when with tragedy comes triumph.
Speaker 2: You got the New Orleans flood Saints win the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: Houston has a flood, Houston starts winning World Series. Nine
Speaker 2: to eleven happens, the New England Patriots are the best
Speaker 2: goddamn team. For the next twenty years, Ken State went
Speaker 2: from having the worst goddamn college football team you've ever
Speaker 2: seen to winning their one and only MAC Championship with
Speaker 2: guys like Nick Saban who came to the college campus,
Speaker 2: Lambert who is from the area. And then we started
Speaker 2: getting all these famous people coming out of Kent Ursinio Hall,
Speaker 2: Michael Keaton, Joe Walsh, devo cartoonist Tom I can never
Speaker 2: say his name, Badowick Funk Winkerbean if you guys are familiar,
Speaker 2: and then of course Christopher Cosmo, the artist. Kent wasn't
Speaker 2: known for having anyone famous coma. The only thing that
Speaker 2: came out of Kent State was teachers, doctors, and at
Speaker 2: the LCD Tech. So I thought it was kind of
Speaker 2: interesting after a major tragedy like this, they start getting
Speaker 2: all this famous people. Oh, Drew Carrey and Steve Harvey.
Speaker 2: So you got three talk show hosts who all came
Speaker 2: out of Kent State, and we all know talk show.
Speaker 19: Hosts are work for the CIA.
Speaker 2: We all know that. So some some sort of fertility ritual.
Speaker 8: Then it's like.
Speaker 2: You can say that, yeah, yeah, yeah, Ken Ken Stay's
Speaker 2: winning like I because I tried connecting everything, because I
Speaker 2: know it's all connected, so you just got to look
Speaker 2: at it and find it. Their their winning record was
Speaker 2: point to to two the year before they the shootings,
Speaker 2: So the sixty nine nineteen seventy season, their winning record
Speaker 2: was point two to two. As I have a feeling
Speaker 2: that has something to new with the ritual too. This
Speaker 2: is the numbers speak to me for some reason. It's
Speaker 2: hard for me not to pay attention to them and
Speaker 2: listen to them. But I feel like I'm missing something.
Speaker 2: There's so much more. I don't know's got anything?
Speaker 8: What's that?
Speaker 18: I was just saying, I feel like you're spot on
Speaker 18: with a lot of this. And I mean when you
Speaker 18: look at these numbers, you go back to nine to eleven,
Speaker 18: I mean it's it's clearly a Kraalyan ritual with the
Speaker 18: numbers nine and eleven. Uh, you know, the two towers
Speaker 18: and then the seventies seventh.
Speaker 17: Floor and all I mean, and you had brought up
Speaker 17: John Lee earlier, and he gets into all that, so
Speaker 17: does William Ramsey. You know, there's a bunch of.
Speaker 18: Good talking heads on on on that subject. But no,
Speaker 18: I do think the numbers tie into a big to
Speaker 18: a big part of the ritual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I almost forgot they were even. Ken State
Speaker 2: eventually built their one of the it's this trifecta with
Speaker 2: three other colleges. They have one of the world's biggest
Speaker 2: collective of medical information in the world. They broke ground
Speaker 2: and started building their twelve story library right around these
Speaker 2: shootings happened. Also, so yeah, more fertility. And I can't
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I can't find anywhere in feet how tall
Speaker 2: the building is. I searched for four days. I tried
Speaker 2: multiple different search methods. The only thing I can get
Speaker 2: it to say is it's a twelve story building. That
Speaker 2: that says something that's kind of weird. It's really weird.
Speaker 2: You can't give me. Could it be the observatory, No,
Speaker 2: it's just the said library, right, library, Kent State's Library.
Speaker 2: It is a huge it's the tallest building in Portage County, oh.
Speaker 8: I got you right here home.
Speaker 2: Oh and one, here's the point I missed. When Kent
Speaker 2: State was created. It was started as a normal school,
Speaker 2: one of two normal schools. That's a huge that's a
Speaker 2: huge building for my area, all the way to Akron
Speaker 2: to go to the next tall building.
Speaker 18: That right there, you see like an X in the middle.
Speaker 18: It kind of looks like it's forming a.
Speaker 1: Almost like a zoomed out too far, way too far.
Speaker 17: I saw swastika. Yeah, yeah, they have.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I have yet to look at the the way the
Speaker 2: campus is laid out. It's changed all a lot in
Speaker 2: the past ten years. Kent State is get us on
Speaker 2: Google or they're getting so much money that they're they're
Speaker 2: starting to buy up the city, the downtown city area,
Speaker 2: putting up hotels and stuff like there. The campus went
Speaker 2: from being just you know, having a nice little campus
Speaker 2: that like it's pristine as fuck.
Speaker 1: Now it's definitely still man.
Speaker 2: Kent State started off as a normal school. It was
Speaker 2: a teacher's college. In nineteen eleven, h the college kind
Speaker 2: of broke grounds for its campus. It opened its doors
Speaker 2: on nineteen in nineteen thirteen, so there's a number thirteen again.
Speaker 2: But it started off as a teachers college to teach
Speaker 2: people how to become teachers. I couldn't find anything, but
Speaker 2: my brain instantly went to, oh, this is part of
Speaker 2: them installing the Prussian school system, wasn't it. You're teaching
Speaker 2: teachers how to teach. I couldn't find too much on
Speaker 2: who was backing the college other than Marvin Kent was
Speaker 2: There was a bid between Kent, Ohio, and Ravenna, Ohio
Speaker 2: to have the campus in either city. They're right next
Speaker 2: to each other. Reven is actually like the capital of
Speaker 2: Portage County, but somehow Kent ended up winning it, winning
Speaker 2: the bid to have the college built on their land.
Speaker 2: Reven Ohio is known for Maynard what can I think
Speaker 2: of his full name, lead singer of Tools from the
Speaker 2: Ohio right down the streets. Yeah, no, should Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, skinny puppy, They I mean associated
Speaker 1: I think the Process Church, and they have an album
Speaker 1: called The Process. I don't know if the song was
Speaker 1: off of that album, but they do. I'd never understood why,
Speaker 1: but like in one of those songs, they mentioned Ohio,
Speaker 1: Kent State. Back in sixty eight, things was so great.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what the fuck out had anything to.
Speaker 12: Crosby Stills, Snash and Young Laurel Canyon also have the
Speaker 12: have a song about Ohio yeah something I also wanted to.
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan even sang about I had a song about
Speaker 2: Sandy who died. Yeah so yeah, yeah. Her name was
Speaker 2: Sanders Schuer aka Sandy Lee. She was one of the
Speaker 2: girls who died. She was from Youngstown.
Speaker 1: Matthew, Matthew, real quick before you continue. And I think
Speaker 1: it was more because the Jewels brought it up talking
Speaker 1: about like Crowley stuff with nine to eleven. Every plane
Speaker 1: that that you know was involved in that. I know,
Speaker 1: like you know, hellless and Lisa and Ethan will play
Speaker 1: her this hundred times out of my mouth. But the planes,
Speaker 1: all the planes that you know were used, they all
Speaker 1: go back to uh act, those numbers else the Crowley
Speaker 1: whenever he made his books, he always like gave them
Speaker 1: a number as well. And all of those numbers match.
Speaker 1: They won't books, or they even match, like I think
Speaker 1: they match like libra oz, which is kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, a statement of I guess like what ethelamite is.
Speaker 1: But another interesting thing to mention about that that I
Speaker 1: had the book. It was called Librastarte. Now in the book,
Speaker 1: there was nothing about killing anything or anybody. But that
Speaker 1: book is based on giving you ideas of like offerings
Speaker 1: to the gods that you're that you're working with. So
Speaker 1: I did even find that like pretty fucking weird. I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, like even that book is involved with
Speaker 1: the ones that hit the planes, you know, the building
Speaker 1: supposedly whatever weird? That is weird? How I a lot?
Speaker 1: You know, they all match crool shit.
Speaker 18: But what Headless was saying about this being a fertility
Speaker 18: ritual of some sorts. Maybe the artist, that guy you
Speaker 18: were first talking about, maybe he kind of knew that,
Speaker 18: and that's why those obelists look like fallasis.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me go back to that real quick, to
Speaker 2: him real.
Speaker 9: Quickly that by the way.
Speaker 14: Of we're on Google Earth, we could probably zoom.
Speaker 18: In it was a portal or you know the what
Speaker 18: you said you saw it saw on my.
Speaker 2: Phone and go back up. Let me eat.
Speaker 14: We gotta find the forest.
Speaker 2: Guys, Nick, I must send you some stuff on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Well there's a private chat right here quick.
Speaker 8: Please, Hey, I'm want to re share this.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 16: I was in the forest, man, but there was nothing
Speaker 16: that you could really see in there. Man, it's just
Speaker 16: like a trail.
Speaker 2: And no, it's hating, bro. I'm I'm gonna show you
Speaker 2: guys some pictures.
Speaker 19: Give me one second.
Speaker 16: I'm find anything that that was really got interesting to
Speaker 16: look out.
Speaker 8: It just looked like a regular trail.
Speaker 9: Over.
Speaker 2: The portal fell over. I'm gonna show you guys the picture.
Speaker 2: The portal's completely knocked over. And I talked to the artists.
Speaker 2: He said, if you and some friends want to grab
Speaker 2: a back hoe, because it's definitely going to take a
Speaker 2: backo to pick that thing up, you guys can put
Speaker 2: it back up for me. But he doesn't care. He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't care if it'sknocked over. I wanted it look
Speaker 2: like it's ancient and it's been there for a millennia. Okay, nick,
Speaker 2: I sent you some stuff on Instagram. Hopefully you can
Speaker 2: pull those up. I sent you his art, some photos
Speaker 2: of his art, even the one with the nine to
Speaker 2: eleven hidden in it, and the art of the portal
Speaker 2: in the woods. I have a picture of it still erect,
Speaker 2: which is very telling. So hopefully we can get those
Speaker 2: get those brought up. Go ahead, I'll shut up.
Speaker 15: I also wanted to say that when we ran the Jamatria,
Speaker 15: it came up with Kent State equaling Freemasons, as well
Speaker 15: as Ride the Lightning and Goddess Mars, which I find interesting.
Speaker 2: Kent State Golden Flashes. We are the Golden Flashes, and
Speaker 2: we use a golden eagle for our mascot and a
Speaker 2: lightning bolt. So whoa nail on the fucking head and
Speaker 2: let me go ahead.
Speaker 10: So the Kins State was on the fourth of May. Right,
Speaker 10: it only took twenty five days for Crosby Stills Nashing
Speaker 10: Young to perform Ohio for the first time live on
Speaker 10: the twenty ninth, twenty five days two five theres R seven.
Speaker 10: And that just proves that they had that in the bucket,
Speaker 10: just waiting on it, you know.
Speaker 2: So the other day I was I wanted to search
Speaker 2: up some pictures and I typed in May fourth, as
Speaker 2: in the word fourth instead of four th h On
Speaker 2: accident May four Students, I hit enter and Google. You
Speaker 2: want to know what I found? In nineteen nineteen, the
Speaker 2: May four Students was a Chinese revolution which brought Chinese
Speaker 2: communism into play. They'd love using these numbers, man, So
Speaker 2: I type something in trying to get one result. In
Speaker 2: got something completely completely fucking different. But guess what, it
Speaker 2: still follows the exact same game plan. It's changed. So yes,
Speaker 2: I think it is a bit of a fertility ritual,
Speaker 2: but in my opinion, it's a change. Usually they're invoking
Speaker 2: change on the population by scaring the shit out of
Speaker 2: us and making us create the change for them.
Speaker 17: Order out of chaos, thank you?
Speaker 14: Yes, right, And he is sacrifice time in ancient times,
Speaker 14: so this would be like Bell Taney, this is when
Speaker 14: they would have the sacrifices.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was also a troubles Mister Garcia, my
Speaker 2: favorite podcasting buddy. While I was podcasting with him, he
Speaker 2: went out of his way to type in what was
Speaker 2: the moon phase of that day? It was a waxing
Speaker 2: gibeous moon, just a day or two before a new moon.
Speaker 2: Then he looked up nine to eleven. Oh wow, exact
Speaker 2: same thing, except just that it was a waxing gibbeous
Speaker 2: moon at a higher percentile. See there. Look how that thing,
Speaker 2: Shiller is somebody who's very tall. It's it's the same
Speaker 2: size as the pillars. Yeah, they are about six and
Speaker 2: a half seven feet tall.
Speaker 12: I'm the artist said that these were not supposed to
Speaker 12: be phallic in name.
Speaker 2: So he said. He said what he was trying to
Speaker 2: show was an upside down grave.
Speaker 12: Well, he's full of ship because it looks like a
Speaker 12: bunch of gates.
Speaker 2: And I apologize for jumping around. Once the artists graduated
Speaker 2: from Kent State, he wasn't doing shit with his life,
Speaker 2: so he moved out to New York City and landed
Speaker 2: in this flat apartment in the same building as the CBGB.
Speaker 2: Once he got into I mean literally right behind the CBGB.
Speaker 2: And once he got to New York and got settled down,
Speaker 2: he called up some more artist buddies from Kent State
Speaker 2: and they all moved to New York City with them,
Speaker 2: and they basically started an artist group called the Mebwebi Group.
Speaker 2: Mibwe b has no meaning whatsoever. It's not even a
Speaker 2: real word. But some people say, what the artist told
Speaker 2: me is that means laughter in Swahili. And they called
Speaker 2: themselves the Mawwi group because one guy in the group
Speaker 2: would run around screaming that word for some reason. That's
Speaker 2: exactly what made it so. This Medwbe group. Uh, you
Speaker 2: may not have ever heard of them, but if you guys,
Speaker 2: uh Wikipedia, they were in a lot of cultural aspects.
Speaker 2: In the seventies, they helped push the funk movement with
Speaker 2: their art. Not to mention, they were right behind the CBGB,
Speaker 2: which screamed Cia all over to me and and Chris,
Speaker 2: Chris went out of his way to tell me this,
Speaker 2: how he rented the flat from an old Jewish guy
Speaker 2: who owned a deli. Okay, well that's an interesting fact.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, I'm sorry to cut you off. No, you know,
Speaker 2: you're good. I'm sorry for interrupting.
Speaker 15: If you go back to just the goddess Mars piece
Speaker 15: real quick. Mars, while associated with war, is also associated
Speaker 15: with fertility, most likely due to being the child of Juno.
Speaker 15: So if this really is one big giant fertility ritual,
Speaker 15: it's interesting that Mars is mentioned.
Speaker 2: That's a great point.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's kind of the same with Venus the masculine.
Speaker 18: I think maybe the Greeks on a headless.
Speaker 14: Correct high Fastus was originally married to a Fordity, but
Speaker 14: the first person that she cheated on him with was Mars.
Speaker 14: And so the idea was that basically people are always
Speaker 14: in love with war, you know.
Speaker 12: So they go hand in hand, right, all right, Okay,
Speaker 12: just a couple of dicks sprinkled in there, of course.
Speaker 2: So during this conversation I had with mister Cosma, he
Speaker 2: also told me that I believe it was the general
Speaker 2: who was on campus that day for the National Guard,
Speaker 2: happens to be friends with his family, even when as
Speaker 2: far to say that the first rifle strap he ever
Speaker 2: owned came off of a gun that this general gave
Speaker 2: his father. The artist also went to as far because
Speaker 2: I kind of I was very respectful when I called him.
Speaker 2: I made sure I was interested in his art and
Speaker 2: I wanted to hear his story about it. I tried
Speaker 2: not to give him the conspiracy side of it. I
Speaker 2: ended up breaking and I told him why I contacted him,
Speaker 2: and I told him I was breaking down this story
Speaker 2: and I think there's something bigger behind it. He immediately
Speaker 2: told me, well, I want you to know that the
Speaker 2: people involved with that fire and the people who were
Speaker 2: there that day with the National Guard, they had nothing
Speaker 2: to do with each other. It's not like they knew
Speaker 2: each other. So it was just events just happened the
Speaker 2: way they happened. So yeah, I guess. So.
Speaker 12: So he went out to be like.
Speaker 2: Out of his way to tell me like, oh, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: this group of people and that it's just it happened
Speaker 2: the way like it was all by chance.
Speaker 12: It's like, oh, who are you to say that? I'm sorry?
Speaker 12: Who are you? Why would I do anything? You have
Speaker 12: to say?
Speaker 13: Yeah, you mentioned that he graduated Ken I apologize, But
Speaker 13: was he going to Kent when the No?
Speaker 8: No, no, no, he was.
Speaker 2: Still in high school at Hudson. Hudson High School, which
Speaker 2: is where my boss graduated from. And I work right
Speaker 2: down a road from so, right down the road from us.
Speaker 20: Yeah, so he was in high school when happened.
Speaker 2: He was in high school when the shootings happened, even.
Speaker 12: More of a reason to a fuck you. You are in
Speaker 12: high school at the time. What are you a fucking
Speaker 12: expert on shit? He was like fourteen at the time.
Speaker 2: Julie, are you as It's a very uppity town. It's
Speaker 2: part of the If you guys aren't familiar with the
Speaker 2: Western Reserve, it's it was basically this part of Ohio
Speaker 2: used to be Connecticut, and it was the Western Reserve
Speaker 2: of Connecticut. It ended right around in this area. So
Speaker 2: Hudson is a huge It's a very rich.
Speaker 19: Uppity town.
Speaker 2: Okay, Chris was born with money already his parents got money.
Speaker 2: Whoever's controlling the screen right now, go go to Google
Speaker 2: and type in home horse, Home Horse Chris. Even though
Speaker 2: he's an artist, he's a bit of an inventor. Also.
Speaker 2: He he built this training horse training device that you
Speaker 2: sit on in your house so you can work on
Speaker 2: your your gallop. I want you, guys to see his
Speaker 2: logo for home Horse. It's quite telling, quite telling. We'll
Speaker 2: bring that up in the second. But I got a
Speaker 2: question for you. Yes, please look at that if you
Speaker 2: can click on it, look at the h on his logo.
Speaker 2: It looks like two fucking towers.
Speaker 9: It does?
Speaker 17: It does?
Speaker 19: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Can State campus has twin towers and try towers on
Speaker 2: the campus also, so like this this thing is it's
Speaker 2: not just New York City. I'm sure there's other towns
Speaker 2: that have twin towers in them. Go ahead with your question.
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, No, you're good. You You said you been
Speaker 10: to that that mural that's out in the woods.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, all right?
Speaker 10: So was that was that disc still up when you
Speaker 10: went there?
Speaker 2: It's completely knocked over, it's heaviest.
Speaker 10: Do you know that when if it was when it
Speaker 10: was up, Like if you would approach it from what
Speaker 10: the artist would consider the front of the piece.
Speaker 1: Would you be looking.
Speaker 2: Would it be like the disc? Would it be caved
Speaker 2: away from you?
Speaker 9: Or like you know what I mean, like, would.
Speaker 2: It be he had it set up the way he
Speaker 2: the way it actually is. It's you got a pillar here,
Speaker 2: the disc here, and three more pillars over here. So
Speaker 2: it was like three of the bodies already entered.
Speaker 19: And the fourth one was supposed to go in.
Speaker 2: But to me, what he told me was, uh, he
Speaker 2: offset it like that just to make it visually look better.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, you didn't, Chris, I know what
Speaker 2: the fuck you set it up for. That's a visual
Speaker 2: representation of souls being transported. Did he did you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 12: Why why did he want to put it way the
Speaker 12: fuck out in the woods where nobody could look at
Speaker 12: it or appreciate.
Speaker 2: It and I couldn't because he said that he wanted
Speaker 2: it to look like it'd been there for a millennia.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 12: He also invented a fucking hobby whors fucking weird thing
Speaker 12: that you sit on at your house with a symbolism.
Speaker 12: I mean, he's just a weirdo. He's like, you know
Speaker 12: what I'm talking.
Speaker 2: About He was an absolute gentleman to talk to. I
Speaker 2: feel bad sitting here talking about him, but I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: mister Cosmo. You're part of something bigger and you need
Speaker 2: to stop lying to us. Yeah.
Speaker 14: I wanted to put that out so the way he
Speaker 14: reacted sounds like he had heard that accusation before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the first thing.
Speaker 2: You even I took my books leave off, even this book.
Speaker 2: I guarantee any real deep conspiracy junkie who's ever looked
Speaker 2: into this saw this read this and was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, they definitely killed those kids, So it was
Speaker 2: definitely a cover up. Our government's doing something to us.
Speaker 2: They're getting away with it. No, they're getting away with
Speaker 2: even more than that, because they didn't kill anybody. They
Speaker 2: just lied to an entire population. They glied to the
Speaker 2: world people. When Asia was rioting over the mayfour shootings,
Speaker 2: it was a worldwide event. It was huge, and like
Speaker 2: I said, it was the marker to kill the sixties
Speaker 2: civil rights protests and start the new seventies. Let's go
Speaker 2: do coke and fuck each other. You want to get fucked,
Speaker 2: Come on, as fuck, you want to get fucked, Let's
Speaker 2: fuck like the seventies. Was just everything downgraded. And I
Speaker 2: think I don't know if any of you have ever
Speaker 2: paid attention to this, but isn't it funny how like
Speaker 2: throughout history you look at the time periods, you got
Speaker 2: the fifteen sixties, seventeen, eighteen hundreds, but then when you
Speaker 2: get to the nineteen hundreds, it's not one hundred years
Speaker 2: that defines it. It's literally every fucking decade, it's something new.
Speaker 2: Our entire culture is being changed every ten years.
Speaker 14: It used to be you stopped at about two thousand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had worried no, And I think that was
Speaker 2: the ritual of nine to eleven. They they fucked with
Speaker 2: time big time, and now we're stuck in some kind
Speaker 2: of time loop where I don't know if you guys
Speaker 2: looked around, but I could go to an amusement part
Speaker 2: and literally see people who look like they stepped out
Speaker 2: of the seventies, eighties, nineties, and two thousands. Hell, I
Speaker 2: see people dressing up like they're from the nineteen twenties today,
Speaker 2: So what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 20: And everybody's riding a fucking hobby horse.
Speaker 2: My son is a seventeen year old.
Speaker 8: That's why I'm cracking up y'all.
Speaker 16: I'm I'm sorry for cracking up because I'm looking at
Speaker 16: this shit.
Speaker 2: I'm just my yo, horse. But I found that on accident, too,
Speaker 2: Like when I typed his name into Google and I'm
Speaker 2: searching stuff, like I was just looking for art and
Speaker 2: then I found that and the h caught my eye.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that was his company until I clicked
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 12: This is how the age we'll do chores.
Speaker 18: Definitely represented or the two Pillars of Solomon.
Speaker 2: You know, perhaps absolutely what does an a name.
Speaker 6: There?
Speaker 2: You go, Yeah, I don't know, Matthew.
Speaker 7: Excuse me, Matthew. Have you looked into the history of
Speaker 7: the Department of Defense Research at Kent State. I know
Speaker 7: they started in the late fifties and they were pretty
Speaker 7: prominent in the sixties. Would you happen to know exactly
Speaker 7: what department and what they were researching at Kent State?
Speaker 2: No, I have not gotten into that's that's the other
Speaker 2: thing in those apartment of.
Speaker 7: So DARPA does business with Kent State. I just don't.
Speaker 8: See.
Speaker 2: I didn't even find nothing like that. That's insane. You
Speaker 2: were talking real quick, guys. You see the picture he's
Speaker 2: got up right now. Inst he's got two more pictures
Speaker 2: exactly like it.
Speaker 12: And what does that happened to the hobby Horse?
Speaker 2: I have no idea, but it's screams Saturn today.
Speaker 12: Is this guy? Is this guy well off because of
Speaker 12: the hobby Horse and all of.
Speaker 2: The he he came out of Hudson, Ohio? All right, so.
Speaker 12: He's just doing this stuff for fun, making rich people
Speaker 12: look like retards on Instagram?
Speaker 2: Did we show the pictures?
Speaker 8: Cowboy hat man? Need to take that shit off? That's
Speaker 8: so disrespectful man.
Speaker 17: Did we look?
Speaker 2: Did you guys see the pictures of his art from
Speaker 2: New York City? All of his art is worth I think,
Speaker 2: and honestly, I think his wife is the mandler. I
Speaker 2: think his wife is the genius here because most New
Speaker 2: York City I can't think of her name. It's aims
Speaker 2: something aims a m e s No tyrone.
Speaker 1: You're rocking a cowboy hat? Saw that? Yeah?
Speaker 9: But not rock way?
Speaker 1: Yeah you did? Yeah you did? I met you?
Speaker 12: You were as long as yourn.
Speaker 1: He told it off. Definitely pulled it off. No, he
Speaker 1: definitely pulled it off. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So this guy knows the symbolism. I you know, he
Speaker 2: he let me know personally that his parents were connected
Speaker 2: to people who were high higher ups that were there
Speaker 2: on campus that day. He didn't have to tell me
Speaker 2: that shit, but he did. He opened his mouth. He
Speaker 2: said a few telling things to me that that day.
Speaker 2: I do plan on I hope to God this interview
Speaker 2: doesn't get to him yet, because I do plan on
Speaker 2: reaching out to him again and telling him instead of
Speaker 2: just because he caught me off guard, I thought he
Speaker 2: was just going to talk to me for ten minutes,
Speaker 2: it went on for two hours. I was in my
Speaker 2: car as soon as I got off work. I called
Speaker 2: him and I was sweating in my car for two hours.
Speaker 2: I couldn't stop him from talking, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: just keep giving me more. But you know, I God,
Speaker 2: I wish I was recording it, so hopefully I can
Speaker 2: get him to actually do a.
Speaker 12: I mean, Matthew, really, if he does hear about the
Speaker 12: interview and he listens to what's the worst that can happen?
Speaker 12: He cancel you from buying hobby horses. I mean, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Really would like to get everything he told me out
Speaker 2: to all of you so all of you can dissect
Speaker 2: it the way I do. You know what it.
Speaker 12: Sounds like he's got, He's not gonna be honest about stuff,
Speaker 12: though it sounds like he'll tell you what you want
Speaker 12: to hear.
Speaker 2: We don't need him an honest we were.
Speaker 14: At this point, right, It's almost it's almost easier to
Speaker 14: have him lie his ass off, because then you know
Speaker 14: exactly what he's lying about.
Speaker 19: Yeah, we already know.
Speaker 2: We already know what he could say to be lying.
Speaker 2: I already know. Bring it, guys, that I'm not out
Speaker 2: here to get famous. I'm not here to make money
Speaker 2: off of podcasting. I actually have a story even fucking
Speaker 2: way bigger than this that I'm behind right now. This
Speaker 2: Kent State story was just for fun for me, being
Speaker 2: from Kent, listening to all your guys' podcasts and all
Speaker 2: the research you guys do. I walk around every day
Speaker 2: with my third eye open. Not to steal that from
Speaker 2: the cult to conspiracy, but I love those guys too,
Speaker 2: and Julia. Actually I did one of my big shows
Speaker 2: that's the Fountain of Vie story with those guys. Please
Speaker 2: check it out. I will. That sounds it's amazing, It's
Speaker 2: a very touching topic for me.
Speaker 11: It's wild, and it's it's still happening right now as
Speaker 11: we speak, so it's happening.
Speaker 2: And this isn't a conspiracy just to theorize over. This
Speaker 2: is a conspiracy to get involved in. I'm not here
Speaker 2: just to talk about conspiracies and point them out. I'm
Speaker 2: here to make some change. I'm here to stop this
Speaker 2: bullshit if we know the rituals they're gonna do before
Speaker 2: they do them. I don't mean like literally pinpoint the
Speaker 2: rituals like an old old a demagarda tries to do,
Speaker 2: but just know that every time the shit happens, it's bullshit.
Speaker 2: And we got to stop paying attention to it. And
Speaker 2: we got to start putting our own intent as a
Speaker 2: collective back in to the ground. The geomancy. They're using
Speaker 2: all of this shit against us, we got to start
Speaker 2: using it against them. I'm here to tell you guys
Speaker 2: that I ask God for a purpose a few I'd
Speaker 2: say over a year ago. He gave me the Primary
Speaker 2: Water story, and then immediately after he gave me this
Speaker 2: Kent State story. And I think I got this Kent
Speaker 2: State story to break down the codes, to unwind the script,
Speaker 2: to dismantle their lies and put it back together so
Speaker 2: we can use it against them.
Speaker 12: Divine inspiration is my favorite type of inspiration. I say
Speaker 12: that all the time, like weird stuff will fall into
Speaker 12: my lap and I'm like, I've never heard about this before,
Speaker 12: and then I end up looking into it and it's
Speaker 12: just rabbit hole after rabbit hole, Like when I discovered
Speaker 12: Program to Kill and Laurel Canyon and that stuff.
Speaker 20: You got on my life.
Speaker 14: You gotta fuck with their numbers. You gotta get on
Speaker 14: the Wikipedia, and you got to edit all the thirteen
Speaker 14: out of everything they put in there.
Speaker 2: Here's something that happened to me real quick. You know
Speaker 2: how they put the numbers in the news cycle. It's
Speaker 2: always a thirty three year old or something like that.
Speaker 2: You know, thirteen people were struck by a car. I
Speaker 2: personally know a guy who blew his fucking hand off
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. Okay, he's my age, he's thirty
Speaker 2: eight years old. The news put it out there that
Speaker 2: he was only twenty two, and they never corrected it.
Speaker 2: They don't fucking care about reporting the truth and the details.
Speaker 2: They got to get those numbers into their stories. And
Speaker 2: I've always wondered, why how do these numbers always end
Speaker 2: up in the news. There's no way. And I saw
Speaker 2: this one, and now I'm questioning it. Down in Columbus
Speaker 2: a few months ago, three women were murdered in at
Speaker 2: the address thirteen thirty three, Like, no, way, that didn't happen.
Speaker 2: And then fast forward to now, I finally clearly, because
Speaker 2: I know the asshole who blew his hand off, I
Speaker 2: know they're lying. They're just doing it to do it, guys,
Speaker 2: It's not by happenstance. It's nothing you did.
Speaker 12: They also put that he was twenty two and he
Speaker 12: had COVID of the b hole, and like all this extracy.
Speaker 12: You know how they loved to just add details like
Speaker 12: put suffering properly into stuff in it suffering.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, COVID. There used to be a thing where
Speaker 3: you could type in on Google like a certain number,
Speaker 3: like say three hundred and thirty three, and it would
Speaker 3: come up on Google three hundred and thirty three dead,
Speaker 3: and you know, like this town and this town, and it.
Speaker 2: Was like, wow, exactly, Phil, I'm half tempted. Actually, I
Speaker 2: was very half tempted to call out to the editor
Speaker 2: and be like, why are you guys lying about his age?
Speaker 2: Why do you keep using these numbers?
Speaker 17: They just usually take it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, sorry about that mistake. Well, you're going to
Speaker 2: fix it because you know that really changes the story.
Speaker 2: You just described a completely different person when you said
Speaker 2: he was twenty two years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 12: They do that with serial killers a lot too. Actually,
Speaker 12: they'll put serial killers that they'll say they died in
Speaker 12: prison at age seventy seven, or they were executed on
Speaker 12: the you know, specific days of twenty second or all
Speaker 12: this stuff. And like the day that John Wayne Gacy
Speaker 12: was executed was the day that Jeffrey Dahmer got baptized,
Speaker 12: and they put that in the news too. It's like
Speaker 12: they do find significance by either making shit up or
Speaker 12: choosing specific dates for things.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 14: You know, it also might have to do with the
Speaker 14: places where they're encoding these things, so you know, check
Speaker 14: out check out the location of these different newsrooms and
Speaker 14: stuff like that, because I think that.
Speaker 1: Could be geomantically significant.
Speaker 17: Where they're sending the broadcast out from. Yeah right, Yeah.
Speaker 12: King State is a false flag, just like the one
Speaker 12: I mentioned earlier that was in Austin, Texas. Phil Do
Speaker 12: you know about that one, Charles Whitman, Yeah.
Speaker 9: That's the one they talk about.
Speaker 3: I think Kurt Russell played him in a movie and
Speaker 3: they cite that in full metal jacket when the drill
Speaker 3: sergeant is talking about how where did where did Whitman
Speaker 3: and Lee Harvey Oswald learn to shoot the Marine Corps?
Speaker 3: So like that's you know, the question they give me.
Speaker 3: While like Lee Harvey Oswald was a horrible shot. But
Speaker 3: supposedly Whitman might have had a brain tumor. That's the
Speaker 3: one story that I've heard about with him.
Speaker 20: But yeah, kill me some weird stuff about him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he killed his wife and mother before, Yeah, before
Speaker 3: he went to the school and did that. I was
Speaker 3: going to say earlier though with with the once again
Speaker 3: the King the King kill aspect idahope.
Speaker 5: Eleven twenty two King Rhode four students. Oh and it's
Speaker 5: funny enough.
Speaker 3: I'm doing a show with JJ in another couple of
Speaker 3: weeks about the two books I've read in regards that
Speaker 3: I just finished the James Patterson book about that one,
Speaker 3: so you expected kind of a limit to hang out
Speaker 3: sort of book.
Speaker 15: I just looked at May fourth as well for the
Speaker 15: Pagan holidays, and you guys are gonna not believe this.
Speaker 2: So not a Celtic wait for this.
Speaker 15: So it's the Celtic holiday festival of Fertility and healing shit.
Speaker 2: I want to throw shit, dude. Oh my god, there
Speaker 2: we go. Oh that's man, Nick, Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for bringing me on today. I thought I was going
Speaker 2: to ship the bed in front of all. This is
Speaker 2: why I'm in it. This is why I've slowly been
Speaker 2: wanting to get in the podcasting, because there's so many
Speaker 2: fucking dots to connect. We can't all do this research
Speaker 2: by ourselves. I've been wanting to bring this information, not
Speaker 2: just to be like, hey, guys, check me out. I
Speaker 2: know all these cool things. We got it. I know
Speaker 2: there's more to the story. I need more people to
Speaker 2: bring me information and information that I can bring them,
Speaker 2: like I myself. Guys, there's so there's so many different
Speaker 2: conspiracies that I myself have already lived. Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 2: Where is that?
Speaker 16: It looks like like.
Speaker 12: What is that the rape lodge over the state.
Speaker 2: It's called the ski booths? Yeah, I was standing in
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 12: They call it the ski booth, but it could be
Speaker 12: also the rape lodge. And look at all these little
Speaker 12: hess all over.
Speaker 1: Julie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what that is. Who like climbed
Speaker 2: up there and wrote on that? That's wild?
Speaker 12: Oh my god, Nick, did you say this so claw.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's just a little structure standing in
Speaker 2: the woods. It's more for decoration than anything could hang
Speaker 2: out in it.
Speaker 13: I bet I wanted to mention the uh you mentioned
Speaker 13: the May fourth Communists, or rather Chinese Communists celebration. May
Speaker 13: first is a big Communist day. Two of course, isn't
Speaker 13: that May Day? Which one's May Day?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 13: Yeah, of course first, So that's three day difference. Of course,
Speaker 13: the fertility coming to birth three days.
Speaker 8: It's just interesting.
Speaker 14: So I wanted to throw in here, Lisa says in
Speaker 14: the chat, she says, Project Themis at Kent Liquid Crystal program.
Speaker 14: So Themis is the Greek goddess of justice. She has
Speaker 14: the sword, the blindfold, and the scales, and uh, that's that's.
Speaker 9: Kind of interesting.
Speaker 14: So Project Themis is where they got the liquid crystal display.
Speaker 14: Also the second Oracle at Delphi and presumed to be
Speaker 14: mother of Prometheus.
Speaker 2: That's why, dude, it just keeps doing up, Thank you guys,
Speaker 2: making it just keeps adding up. Man, It's like them
Speaker 2: naming every Space Shuttle launch after some kind of god
Speaker 2: and doing it on very specific ritualistic days, over and
Speaker 2: over and over again. I'll tell you.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 2: Do any of you know who Michael want.
Speaker 15: Is one podcast?
Speaker 2: No, No, I never got he's got a series. He
Speaker 2: got a series on the fortieth parallel with Ross Ben.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely fair.
Speaker 1: We had them on like two or three weeks ago, right,
Speaker 1: maybe a month ago, Yes, we do, yeah, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: it did.
Speaker 2: Drop it Okay, Money in the chat actually had them
Speaker 2: all right, Well, I pay him to do my astrology
Speaker 2: reading the other day and.
Speaker 1: Him out.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of this is going into some
Speaker 2: of his research on the synchronicities and everything. He even
Speaker 2: told me I need to go and not just do podcasts,
Speaker 2: but actually go out to Kent and talk about this
Speaker 2: in person to people.
Speaker 14: Bring some dowsing rods, bring some dowsing rods.
Speaker 2: So I might end up eventually down the road actually
Speaker 2: trying to do like a conference on this topic. So
Speaker 2: anybody who's got research that they're pulling up, d m
Speaker 2: me on my Instagram Awakened Lion, you can email me.
Speaker 2: I'll shoot you my email, because god, I I didn't
Speaker 2: I looked past the darkest stuff. I looked past the
Speaker 2: l c D the name of that project. I'd looked
Speaker 2: at that before, but I for some reason skipped over
Speaker 2: that Greek goddess name. I didn't even realize that. So
Speaker 2: even while I'm doing my research, I know I'm missing stuff.
Speaker 7: A lot of the nineteen sixties research that was done.
Speaker 7: I think we mentioned this on another podcast. A lot
Speaker 7: of the nineteen sixties research that a lot of the
Speaker 7: truth or conspiracy community focuses on is mainly like the
Speaker 7: Kama kay ultra, the psychological aspect, the psilocybin, all that stuff.
Speaker 7: We tend to gravitate more towards that. I don't know
Speaker 7: if it's because it's readily available we can find more
Speaker 7: information on it. But a lot of the aeronautics, the
Speaker 7: optics that were that are used now for intelligence and
Speaker 7: by crafting and all that other stuff, especially medical, physiological
Speaker 7: anything like that is usually not talked about a lot.
Speaker 2: And so if Kent was.
Speaker 7: I guess used for optics or any kind of liquid
Speaker 7: christlography or anything like that, that is significant because they
Speaker 7: probably had a grant for it, they had professors that
Speaker 7: had written for a grant, and they were doing research
Speaker 7: for it, and they were not just they were also
Speaker 7: probably co authoring or doing collaborative work with other universities.
Speaker 2: What's the chances that they were there were any Nazi
Speaker 2: scientists hanging out at Kent State. I'm just going to
Speaker 2: throw no, we've traded all of our colleges.
Speaker 9: Yes, they were.
Speaker 3: Brought to where there's like an infamous picture at an Ohio, Yes,
Speaker 3: Air Force Base, I think where von Braun was originally
Speaker 3: brought at one point. So that was.
Speaker 7: That was my next point in that because Ohio is
Speaker 7: the halfway point between Chicago and New York. We do
Speaker 7: know Chicago is Fermilab or you know doctor Fermi who
Speaker 7: helped develop the large Hderal collabor particle accelerator. That doesn't
Speaker 7: get a whole lot of attention, pretty focuses on we
Speaker 7: have turned in Chicago, and then you have New York,
Speaker 7: which had a lot of experimentation being done by you know,
Speaker 7: scientists from Project paper Clip and what forth. And so
Speaker 7: it was the go between.
Speaker 16: That somebody got the phone on or something that I
Speaker 16: hear some background numbers.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: Went away. Yeah, sure where that was coming from. That's
Speaker 2: that is fantastic info. And yeah, man, I'm telling you
Speaker 2: we we could compile probably three hours of symposium on
Speaker 2: this alone. It just keeps connecting. It's all over the place,
Speaker 2: and I'll even throw this one out. The high school
Speaker 2: I went to, it's named Theodore Roosevelt High School. Theodore
Speaker 2: Roosevelt was vice president to William McKinley. William McKinley was
Speaker 2: also assassinated and was from Canton, Ohio. The William McKinley
Speaker 2: Memorial is exactly thirty two miles away from the Theodore Roosevelt.
Speaker 19: High School in Kent.
Speaker 2: So when you ask yourself, well, Theodore Rosva wasn't from Ohio,
Speaker 2: why's he got a high school named after him out there?
Speaker 2: I think that's why they placed that in that in
Speaker 2: the city of Kent, because it's exact location. They love
Speaker 2: using those numbers.
Speaker 12: There's a lot of weird ship that comes out of Ohio,
Speaker 12: like MGK for example, fucking talk about a lizard King,
Speaker 12: I met him anybody in breakfast place in Cleveland?
Speaker 2: No, No, I wouldn't even bother No.
Speaker 12: The b hole.
Speaker 3: In the seventies, Ohio became, you know, you had some
Speaker 3: interesting stuff. You had Flint kind of getting started there
Speaker 3: with the Hustler Club, and then in the late seventies
Speaker 3: you had the Cleveland Mob War with Danny Green taking
Speaker 3: on the Cleveland mob and Cleveland becomes the car bomb
Speaker 3: capital of the world, you know at that point.
Speaker 2: My favorite unspoken about event was the nineteen seventies taking
Speaker 2: over the entire town of Boston Township. It's now referred
Speaker 2: to as hell Town. Have any of you heard of this? No,
Speaker 2: So back in seventy four, there was a bill signed
Speaker 2: off for like preserving They said there was too much
Speaker 2: urban sprawl and we were knocking down too many forests.
Speaker 2: So what did they do? Instead of just like stopping
Speaker 2: knocking down forest, they knocked down an entire town. They
Speaker 2: removed people off their property with guns, burnt down their
Speaker 2: homes and told them and this is now a national park.
Speaker 2: The government completely tore people off their own properties, booted
Speaker 2: them out, and that this area of Ohio is gorgeous.
Speaker 2: It's not flat fucking cornfields. There's a lot of peaks
Speaker 2: and valleys and rocky areas. There's lots of climbing to do, hikes, trails,
Speaker 2: and Boston is beautiful. The name itself too, just you know,
Speaker 2: it's named Boston in the middle of Ohio. So they
Speaker 2: signed this bill, kicked everybody out, and then somehow lost
Speaker 2: funding to turn it into a national park turned around
Speaker 2: and told everybody they can have their property back. In
Speaker 2: my opinion, I think they were searching for something.
Speaker 20: When did happen seventies in seventies?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they tore up the entire time down, even turning
Speaker 2: parts of it. And you know how they said they
Speaker 2: were trying to save, you know, the land, the trees
Speaker 2: and everything. They turned half of the area into a
Speaker 2: toxic waste land by dumping toxic sledge all over the place.
Speaker 2: This place, dude, Helltown, Ohio has more conspiracies driven in
Speaker 2: it than any other place you've ever heard of. There
Speaker 2: there's giant stories of giant snakes, satanism, a bus full
Speaker 2: of kids going missing. Which is is there? Like, yeah, paranormal?
Speaker 2: I feel like I've heard some stuff. Yeah. I've even
Speaker 2: had friends say it's it's a very secluded area. It
Speaker 2: is guarded by cops a lot of the time, and
Speaker 2: the cops out there suck. But you know, being a teen,
Speaker 2: me and my friends used to take blunt routes. Everyone does.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if you live in this area and
Speaker 2: you've taken a blunt route through this area, and multiple
Speaker 2: friends have told me they've had experiences where the car
Speaker 2: either starts acting up up or they got out of
Speaker 2: the card just to be idiots and walk around and
Speaker 2: like they hear noises and shit, and that's not even
Speaker 2: walking deep into the woods, that's just driving down the
Speaker 2: dark roads at night. Well.
Speaker 12: I also, oh, go ahead, bro, I.
Speaker 15: Just wanted to just say really quickly that this isn't
Speaker 15: the first time that the government's come in and done
Speaker 15: that eminent domain. I mean, look at the LBL. That
Speaker 15: is an area of high strangeness, and people were just
Speaker 15: booted off of their property and they'd been there for
Speaker 15: hundreds of years, you know, homesteading and things like that.
Speaker 15: And you find that in these areas where there are
Speaker 15: paranormal things happening or potentially cryptid things, that the government
Speaker 15: is coming in under the guise of eminent domain and
Speaker 15: kicking people out. It's an interesting correlation.
Speaker 2: And this area was actually there's a fantastic YouTuber and
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm going to forget his name, and it's
Speaker 2: him History Something. He goes to different places talking about
Speaker 2: the history in the area and he does a beautiful
Speaker 2: job telling the story of the witch from the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: And this like prominent man from the area who was
Speaker 2: trying to use the witch to get secrets about everyone
Speaker 2: in town so he could steal the land. So then
Speaker 2: he does. Like the way he tells the story, it
Speaker 2: literally mirrors what happened in the seventies, how everyone's land
Speaker 2: was taken, even to the point where the prominent man
Speaker 2: from the eighteen hundreds died of a heart attack, just
Speaker 2: like the guy, one of the main people who was
Speaker 2: involved with taking the properties away from everyone in the seventies.
Speaker 2: It's a crazy story. If you guys, just go on
Speaker 2: YouTube in your free time and type in hellcount witch story,
Speaker 2: it should pop up. He's an old white guy with
Speaker 2: beard and glasses. Great ten minute video.
Speaker 3: Here's I got a crazy kind of like connection, well
Speaker 3: not connection, but like Helltown. So I was saying to
Speaker 3: Nick earlier, I said, it's kind of interesting. He invited
Speaker 3: me on this, and I read a book that I
Speaker 3: reviewed about ken State called sixty seven Shots. I also
Speaker 3: did a book called Helltown about Provincetown, Massachusetts. That was
Speaker 3: the nickname it was given where there was a serial
Speaker 3: killer in the seventies, and at one point, like you
Speaker 3: know that, that was the nickname Gatton was Helltown.
Speaker 9: And at one point you had Kurt.
Speaker 3: Vonnegut Norman Mayler were living near each other and everybody
Speaker 3: was speculating on who the killer was. And you know,
Speaker 3: it's a really good book. Interesting but again true prime.
Speaker 3: So you know, we know how that kind of genre
Speaker 3: can be in terms of you know, speculation and who
Speaker 3: the killer is. But I just thought it was funny
Speaker 3: when you said Helltown and that being Boston. You know
Speaker 3: what was it, Boston, Ohio or Boston.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Boston Township, Ohio yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of Collinstown, Massachusetts. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 12: You know, there's actually story of a serial killer. You
Speaker 12: guys may or may not be familiar with it, but
Speaker 12: it was called the Cleveland Torso Murderer and they thought
Speaker 12: he could be like a Jack the Ripper or he
Speaker 12: was like Jack the Ripper came over here and started
Speaker 12: slicing bitches up. But yeah, he it's an unidentified serial
Speaker 12: killer from the Cleveland, Ohio area, was just ripping and running.
Speaker 12: They just found bits and pieces of women all over
Speaker 12: the place. All the Rockafellers are buried in Cleveland, Ohio.
Speaker 12: A lot of people don't know that. And you know,
Speaker 12: I grew up on Lake Erie and I will tell
Speaker 12: you it's a fucking creepy place to grow up. There's
Speaker 12: a lot of UFO activity. There's a lot of like
Speaker 12: weird things that come in and out of the lake.
Speaker 12: A lot of weird things have been seen. It's kind
Speaker 12: of like got a haunted vibe about it. So yeah,
Speaker 12: I mean all this stuff checks out. Serial killers, Rockefellers,
Speaker 12: people getting their shit taken away, people's heads get blown
Speaker 12: off at school.
Speaker 20: MGK, Welcome to Ohio.
Speaker 2: About I forget Matthew McKinley.
Speaker 3: How about what's the name Harding? Warren Harding is from Ohio,
Speaker 3: had what was called the most corrupt administration ever and
Speaker 3: then he drops dead what two years in of a
Speaker 3: suspicious heart attack or whatnot? And you know, yeah, his
Speaker 3: group was called the Ohio Gang, which was like his habinet.
Speaker 2: How many how many presidents are from Ohio? It was
Speaker 2: it four or five? Do we know? Because I know
Speaker 2: Ohio like that we have a specific nickname for like
Speaker 2: being the birthplace of the most all the ones.
Speaker 20: That like booty whole stuff came from Ohio.
Speaker 2: We got McKenley, Arting. Is there fourth there is? I'm
Speaker 2: missing it? I know there is real quick, Yeah, if
Speaker 2: you can because at fifths four. That's very telling presidents
Speaker 2: from popping up.
Speaker 20: President three.
Speaker 21: Oh yeah, and we'll say every every every president that
Speaker 21: has won Ohio since the nineteen sixties has won the
Speaker 21: presidential elections.
Speaker 12: There's seven presidents from Ohio seven Okay, yeah, I thought.
Speaker 8: I actually got eight.
Speaker 16: I got the know you got a yeah from Cleveland
Speaker 16: dot Com.
Speaker 8: I got the eight Ohio's eight presidents. Presidents in the
Speaker 8: cases they called home.
Speaker 12: Oh President Garfield, I forgot about that asshold another assassinated one. Yeah,
Speaker 12: he was assassinated.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of presidents from Ohio.
Speaker 20: So that that's and they all like booty whole, like,
Speaker 20: what are the presidents?
Speaker 22: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And then not that not many presidents from Ohio. Then
Speaker 2: you have the Rockefellers. It's just highly connected. This area.
Speaker 12: We get had seen their graves. By the way, I
Speaker 12: visited this imitary.
Speaker 2: Enormous us. They are fucking huge. Yes, I've seen them.
Speaker 2: They are huge.
Speaker 12: I got chills when I stumbled upon that grave site.
Speaker 12: I was like, oh, look at this what some rich
Speaker 12: motherfucker's right because it's like huge.
Speaker 16: It's called Lancaster, Ohio. Is it that one you're talking about?
Speaker 12: No, No, that is buriedy.
Speaker 2: Route eight.
Speaker 8: I hate your turnpike Route eighty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never used it. I did not use the tolls,
Speaker 2: no way, not at all. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys have any more questions for me. I don't know
Speaker 2: what else I could possibly There's, like I said, everywhere
Speaker 2: I look, I had to break down all the different
Speaker 2: students and I don't even I got to get on
Speaker 2: my own show and do a solo show where I
Speaker 2: can just break down everything, and you guys can maybe
Speaker 2: watch me for once. You know, I've been listening to
Speaker 2: you for a very long time.
Speaker 3: You were saying that the four students were Jewish, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: parallels to nine to eleven. Well, who was the first
Speaker 3: victim of nine to eleven? Was an IDF soldier on
Speaker 3: flight eleven? Or that was the first old victim? Was
Speaker 3: that was an IDF soldier, which was very random. And
Speaker 3: then you have the Henry Kissinger connection. You know, Kissinger
Speaker 3: was Nixon at the time, it was his National security advisor.
Speaker 3: And then nine to eleven they want to bring him
Speaker 3: in on the first Blue Ribbon Commission, and you know,
Speaker 3: of course his connections representing the Saudiast meant he got
Speaker 3: quickly kicked off, and you know, there's yeah, a lot
Speaker 3: of parallels, you know, and then we're talking to Rockefellers.
Speaker 3: I was told, I mean something I had read about
Speaker 3: the Towers where tower one was supposed to be Nelson
Speaker 3: and the other one was named David, like they were
Speaker 3: named after the kids initially that was their nickname, or
Speaker 3: the Towers North and the South.
Speaker 8: I think it was, Yeah, that's wild, that's great.
Speaker 2: I guess my last if I had who knows, I
Speaker 2: may never have the opportunity to sit in this in
Speaker 2: front of this many amazing podcasters again. So this is
Speaker 2: one last little bit of random information I have for
Speaker 2: the night. It's pertaining to Akron and Judith Resnick. Just
Speaker 2: to let you guys know, the high school she went
Speaker 2: to was called the Firestone Falcons. Put them together with
Speaker 2: the event that she supposedly passed away in and have
Speaker 2: to mention that real quick, Bron James, Steph Curry, and
Speaker 2: Judith Resnick were all born in the same.
Speaker 19: Hospital, were they?
Speaker 2: Yes, Steph Curry and Lebron James were both born in
Speaker 2: the same hospital. And then of course I had to
Speaker 2: throw in Judith Resnick. But I'm sorry, go ahead Julia.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 12: I was just gonna say, have you seen the videos
Speaker 12: of people who walk up to her, Oh yeah, we
Speaker 12: heard that you died in a fiery crash. Oh yeah,
Speaker 12: and she's just like, oh, fuck you, and she just
Speaker 12: walks away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know it's her. I mean I grew up
Speaker 2: looking at her picture like. That's one of those things
Speaker 2: about you know, I don't know if any of you
Speaker 2: know this, but if you're from Ohio and you actually
Speaker 2: like the state, you're kind of like an asshole about
Speaker 2: it sometimes, like we're the best. You know, it's Ohio
Speaker 2: versus the world. So like even my son, when he
Speaker 2: learns about history and it has anything to do with Ohio,
Speaker 2: he's fucking all for it. So I think it's just
Speaker 2: bred into us, you know, it's the energy of the state.
Speaker 2: But you know, just when I growing up, you know,
Speaker 2: knowing that, oh wow, this is a really important person.
Speaker 2: Because I was a kid, I didn't know it was
Speaker 2: fake until you know, the past ten years. That was
Speaker 2: one of those things I always thought about, like this
Speaker 2: astronaut being from right down the road. You know, it
Speaker 2: was really cool fact to know about as a kid.
Speaker 2: But now it's if.
Speaker 12: You ever meet a Browns fan, you'll realize the disillusionment
Speaker 12: of some from fucking Ohio. It's like, are you serious?
Speaker 2: We used to be good now?
Speaker 12: Oh god, this podcast. I can't do it.
Speaker 2: No, I'm done with sports. I literally I play fantasy
Speaker 2: football with my friends just for the chance to win money.
Speaker 2: It was called the Cleveland Steamers, so that's how much
Speaker 2: I really.
Speaker 20: The whole stuff comes from Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Steamers is way further back than Cleveland. All Right, unraveling
Speaker 2: the podcast here though, I don't know if you guys
Speaker 2: got any more questions, any any more thoughts, anything else
Speaker 2: to add. This has been amazing, Lisa, is it up
Speaker 2: there one of my the other occult region podcast. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: Extra research's were in there tonight. I'm so happy you
Speaker 2: did not bow out. That was fantastic. I can't wait
Speaker 2: to start digging into the darpest stuff now. I got
Speaker 2: more rabbit holes to go through.
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely look into the weather, underground stuff that angle.
Speaker 7: Also we provide amount of fruit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling you. We get to get enough information
Speaker 2: put together to have a whole weekend symposium on this
Speaker 2: one fucking subject, which would get really tiresome and boring.
Speaker 2: But you get enough good podcasters in the room, we
Speaker 2: can have a lot of fun with that.
Speaker 12: What is this?
Speaker 8: I don't know?
Speaker 16: This is on Google every time somebody says something, I
Speaker 16: like the research and google what they're saying.
Speaker 8: And this is actually in the Lake, Ohio or Lake
Speaker 8: what is it called? Breakout?
Speaker 16: It's called yeah, the wayde Tomorrow at lake View Cemetery
Speaker 16: And when you click.
Speaker 12: On him, this is where this is where the Rockefellers
Speaker 12: are buried.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, look at that?
Speaker 19: Okay?
Speaker 8: Or my Sinian or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild, man. I could spend days breaking that down.
Speaker 1: Cada I Phoenician, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I got I guess uh. Nick, you being the guy
Speaker 2: who lived a lot of this, knowing all the rituals
Speaker 2: and stuff, what do you have to say about anything
Speaker 2: presented to you today? Like, I got to get your
Speaker 2: opinion on this, brother, Like, am I on track? Is
Speaker 2: this really the type of ship these people are doing?
Speaker 2: Or am I hallucinating? Am I crazy? And do I
Speaker 2: need to be thrown behind bars?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah right, No, I definitely think when you guys
Speaker 1: were talking about it earlier, the whole thing with them,
Speaker 1: you know, I was even trying to say, you know,
Speaker 1: if it's not, it doesn't necessarily have to be real.
Speaker 1: Because of the way technology is today and the way
Speaker 1: people are meant to feel for people that they never
Speaker 1: even meant and never would meet, you're gonna get people
Speaker 1: reacting probably, you know what I'm saying. Like, you get
Speaker 1: tons of reactions off something that's completely fake regardless, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So uh, I like, I guess
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at is, let's say you killed four
Speaker 1: people but nobody knew about it. But if you didn't
Speaker 1: kill four people, but you had millions triggered over it,
Speaker 1: that might actually be a little bit more you know
Speaker 1: worth well? Sorry Nick?
Speaker 2: Yeah, zooming on that, Jesus Christ, can.
Speaker 12: You google the Rockefeller's grave site. I have a picture
Speaker 12: of it on my phone when I went to go visit,
Speaker 12: but it's not a good picture the monument. Yeah all
Speaker 12: like all the oh yeah, so.
Speaker 14: On the magicians that encode the stuff of their to
Speaker 14: the country.
Speaker 2: Brother, that wouldn't surprise me whatsoever. And I'm so glad
Speaker 2: you thought you said it like that, because that's literally
Speaker 2: what I'm sitting here thinking. I literally had you know,
Speaker 2: how we all know paranoid American, right. I wanted to
Speaker 2: pitch this at him, like, dude, you need to throw
Speaker 2: something in there where like in one of your comics
Speaker 2: or magazines where they have these the school where they
Speaker 2: breed and torture and force these people to write the
Speaker 2: codes for all of us, Like I don't know how
Speaker 2: much of you are into like Jamatria and all that,
Speaker 2: and what Zach, Zach, what's Zach's name, the Jamatria guy Zach.
Speaker 2: I can't think of his full name right now.
Speaker 1: Oh, zachly, thank you.
Speaker 2: The way he pieces together the WWE, all of the
Speaker 2: professional sports and everything that's going on in the major
Speaker 2: news cycle together through the numbers, the words and everything else.
Speaker 2: Now he does take a certain angle of oh it's
Speaker 2: all jesuit, which I think he is on to something
Speaker 2: there too. But there's a fucking code being written for
Speaker 2: all of these events, Like they literally have script writers,
Speaker 2: And how cool would it be for my brain to think,
Speaker 2: what if they're breeding these script writers and they have
Speaker 2: them all held captive in some tucked away underground school somewhere,
Speaker 2: Like I could see paranoid American writing a small comic.
Speaker 19: On that ship.
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, you're definitely onto something with that. There's
Speaker 2: code writers to this stuff. They're they're using together the
Speaker 2: theatrics for us, and it's literally, what's.
Speaker 12: That's the Garfield that's the Garfield Memorial. If you go
Speaker 12: to the basement of that memorial, they have his fucking
Speaker 12: coffin just out for you to like, just roll up
Speaker 12: on his fucking coffin.
Speaker 2: I bet you he's not even in there. I bet you.
Speaker 2: McKinley's and his wife is supposedly buried in the wall. Yeah,
Speaker 2: anything about McKinley's memorial. Look up that one real quick
Speaker 2: too before we get off here. Even the grounds that
Speaker 2: it's it's shaped very oddly when you look at it
Speaker 2: from above. William McKinley Canton Memorial. It's also right across
Speaker 2: the street from the Camp Football Hall of Fame. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys, some bitches energy that the Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: game brings in every year, having all of those men inducted,
Speaker 2: all the fans that come out, it is insane in
Speaker 2: that area and in the summer.
Speaker 9: And it's coming up in a couple of weeks, right
Speaker 9: in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do it. They hits right on my birthday
Speaker 2: almost every year.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 8: Warm peace. Look at that warm man pieces with home.
Speaker 12: Chef was asking me if I did a show talking
Speaker 12: about going to this cemetery. I definitely did. It was
Speaker 12: creep vibes for days. I was all up in this bitch,
Speaker 12: this one that you're looking at right now. I went
Speaker 12: by the Rockefeller's grave Elliott Ness. Uh, it's really creepy.
Speaker 12: I mean it's definitely got some of the oldest gris. Yeah,
Speaker 12: creep vibes.
Speaker 9: And we're talking about so the Rockefellers were from Cleveland.
Speaker 12: We're saying, right, Yeah, it's just like, after you've attained
Speaker 12: that much wealth, why would you want to be buried
Speaker 12: in like the west side of Cleveland with all the crackheads.
Speaker 2: He wasn't even born in Cleveland, but that's where he
Speaker 2: was at.
Speaker 12: When it's not a nice area of Cleveland where the
Speaker 12: cemetery is, it's literally like cracks.
Speaker 2: And here's here's the thing. Do have a bunch of
Speaker 2: mgks running around. I've been following you since the Great Deception?
Speaker 17: All right?
Speaker 2: I actually, yeah, pretty close to Matt. He had me
Speaker 2: on his show a few times. Yeah, when I was
Speaker 2: wet behind the years with conspiracy. That was about two
Speaker 2: years ago. I miss Matt. God, I wish Matt was
Speaker 2: in this chat right now. He's fantastic. But his old
Speaker 2: world research is why I believe the reason why Rockefeller
Speaker 2: ended up in Cleveland is because that area is so
Speaker 2: heavily charged. Those buildings were already there, They've been there
Speaker 2: for hundreds of fucking years, and they used to be
Speaker 2: high tech buildings. The building I'm following building that this
Speaker 2: motherfucker lived in, I guarantee was. I hate to say it,
Speaker 2: and I know probably ninety percent of you don't believe it.
Speaker 2: Tartarian whatever that shit was. Okay, I don't know if
Speaker 2: the whole Tartarian Empire thing is a CIA operation that
Speaker 2: confuse us all or not. But the fact that these
Speaker 2: buildings still stand today and they have obvious evidence of
Speaker 2: being more than just a building reason for me to
Speaker 2: believe that a lot of this land. And I don't
Speaker 2: know if any of you know about ross Ben's research
Speaker 2: on the fortieth Parallel in Philadelphia and the artwork that
Speaker 2: he looked into, and the research he did on the
Speaker 2: mounds themselves. Okay, getting back into Kent and all the
Speaker 2: mounds being in Kent as well, They're not just bound
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, Dayton, and Kentucky. They're fucking all over the place,
Speaker 2: and yet don't even know when you're standing on one,
Speaker 2: because we've already built civilization on top of them. And
Speaker 2: I said, I'm ninety five percent sure. I just have
Speaker 2: to do the research. That Kent State itself was built
Speaker 2: on a giant Indian mound. It's so fucking hilly for
Speaker 2: no reason. I used to ride my bike up and
Speaker 2: down those hills every single day in the summer as
Speaker 2: a kid. They are huge hills. The rest Like, you
Speaker 2: go to Ravenna, it's not that hilly. You go to Stowe,
Speaker 2: it's not that hilly. You go to Brimfield. It's a
Speaker 2: fucking farm town. It's got a little hill everywhere. But
Speaker 2: that's it. Kent has got huge hills for no reason.
Speaker 2: And one of the seven Hills Kent does not, but
Speaker 2: Akron does. Hey, here's a little fact that I cannot
Speaker 2: find anywhere on the internet anymore. If Hitler had won
Speaker 2: world domination, he planned on making Akron, Ohio, one of
Speaker 2: the world capitals.
Speaker 12: So I could be But I heard that I came
Speaker 12: the crackheads took over.
Speaker 7: Isn't isn't Cleveland or Akron at one of the largest
Speaker 7: Jewish cities.
Speaker 2: Cleveland's got a lot of Jews, yeah, in the suburbs, Italian,
Speaker 2: Italians and Polish, we got them all. But the highest
Speaker 2: population of Puerto Ricans in the country is in Cleveland, Ohio.
Speaker 12: They make a mean and Panada though, I mean they
Speaker 12: up all over the.
Speaker 2: Place perto Ricans. My best friend in the world is
Speaker 2: Puerto Rican and he was my roommate when I lived
Speaker 2: in Kent. He actually played football at Kent State.
Speaker 12: I think the Mexican efinom Well, you also had you know,
Speaker 12: It's just me, all right, Lisa.
Speaker 3: I also had one of the one of the true
Speaker 3: sort of conspiracy you know politicians from Ohio around Cleveland
Speaker 3: was James Traffiicant.
Speaker 5: He was the one who accused of what was it.
Speaker 3: He accused, uh, I think Janet Reno of being a
Speaker 3: lesbian and he talked about I think like Israel's grip,
Speaker 3: you know, on the politics.
Speaker 5: And who are you talking about the all time.
Speaker 3: James Traffickan he was. He was a center. I think
Speaker 3: he said like beat me up Scott. He was like
Speaker 3: one of his like phrases. And I think they eventually
Speaker 3: kicked him out of Congress. But yeah, he was someone
Speaker 3: who was like very attuned with like Israel's influence in.
Speaker 9: Regards to government.
Speaker 3: And yeah he said Janet Reno was having an affair
Speaker 3: with Donna Shalala, who was like the Health and Human Services.
Speaker 5: Secretary under Clinton.
Speaker 3: And yeah, he was like one of those guys Democrat,
Speaker 3: but like would spew a lot of stuff that turned
Speaker 3: out to be true. He took the cause of John DEMIENUK,
Speaker 3: the guy who they said was Ivan the Terrible.
Speaker 12: Oh my god, he started on that ship. That is
Speaker 12: fucked up.
Speaker 17: Did you that that documentary? Yes?
Speaker 9: I did, Yes, I did.
Speaker 12: God it was from Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 12: It was crazy episode.
Speaker 5: I think there's a huge Ukrainian population I think was
Speaker 5: part of that.
Speaker 12: Phil I would up and do an episode on that
Speaker 12: guy because I think that is is a crazy story.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you.
Speaker 5: And his lawyer was Israeli and took a ship off for.
Speaker 12: Oh my god, that's so crazy. But that's another Cleveland story.
Speaker 12: I forgot about a full blown concentration camp. Ass, fucking
Speaker 12: Nazi ass, fucking well killed kids in the gas chamber. Ass.
Speaker 3: When we're talking about Rockefeller, you know someone who made
Speaker 3: his money most likely off you know, crimes in one
Speaker 3: form or another, and then you know, being involved with
Speaker 3: philanthropy as you get a guy like Mo Dalitz, who
Speaker 3: was a gangster the Mayfield Road mob who goes out
Speaker 3: to Vegas and he becomes like mister Las Vegas and
Speaker 3: winds up, you know, owns the desert in which eventually
Speaker 3: he sells to Howard Hughes and then donates they like
Speaker 3: donates the biggest hospital that was being used to run
Speaker 3: the casino skim through at one point, and he dies
Speaker 3: and he's like Man of the Year and all these
Speaker 3: other things and basically just whitewashed his entire reputation through philanthropy,
Speaker 3: nuts the murders and stuff.
Speaker 12: You know, still is like an insight globe Peek Yeah Oday, Conspiratorio,
Speaker 12: that's my name.
Speaker 2: I gotta say it again to guys. Please, if I
Speaker 2: can get all your contacts, learn who all of your
Speaker 2: shows are, I would love the sport all of you
Speaker 2: two and connect more. I'm having so much fun with
Speaker 2: this shit. Dude connecting out. Dude, it's who here has
Speaker 2: done psychedelics anyone. I'm not a big user, right, but
Speaker 2: the first time I ever did mushrooms is to the
Speaker 2: net the id it. I did it with a group
Speaker 2: of friends and seven of us and we all went
Speaker 2: off and did our own thing. A couple guys went
Speaker 2: this way, a couple guys went that way. I was
Speaker 2: sitting on a playground because my friends lived right next
Speaker 2: to a playground, all right, I wasn't there, being it
Speaker 2: was literally in their backyard. And I sat there by myself,
Speaker 2: having a flood of all these thoughts I've never had before,
Speaker 2: thinking about the most random shit. And I was sitting
Speaker 2: there for about twenty thirty minutes, and then I decided
Speaker 2: to get up and walk back to my friend's house
Speaker 2: to the front door. And then I looked to my
Speaker 2: left and the two guys who walked this way started
Speaker 2: to come back, and the other guy. We all came
Speaker 2: back to the house at the exact same time, and
Speaker 2: all of our different thoughts were completely different, but they
Speaker 2: all connected. And it blew my fucking mind how our
Speaker 2: conversation people were having in different parts of the town
Speaker 2: all came together at once.
Speaker 22: Yes, you connect through the mystelium, absolutely, and it just
Speaker 22: It's what I've been doing every day since, just connecting
Speaker 22: dots that I come across and it's so.
Speaker 2: Much fun for me, and I honestly feel like God
Speaker 2: speaking to us a little bit more than we want
Speaker 2: to realize. And even though I look at things like
Speaker 2: numerology and astrology, I'm a big believer that those are
Speaker 2: God's tools and if you're using them correctly, especially if
Speaker 2: you're using it to kind of fight on his side,
Speaker 2: you can use it for good. It's all about intention, correct,
Speaker 2: It's all about intent. They're using it against us on
Speaker 2: a daily basis, and we've got to do something to
Speaker 2: fight back. There's so many fucking look like the group
Speaker 2: I'm sitting in front of right now, and all of
Speaker 2: you know people, and all of those people know people.
Speaker 2: Before I got on here, I was on a two
Speaker 2: and a half hour podcast with NDS.
Speaker 17: I had them on yesterday.
Speaker 2: Man shouts out, I know, I follow, I'm I'm They're
Speaker 2: one of the few people I pay for the Patreon offense. Guys,
Speaker 2: I'm a poor person, but they put out so many
Speaker 2: shows throughout the day that I can listen to at work.
Speaker 2: Plus they have a lot of you guys on too.
Speaker 2: It's great, yeah, but it's there's the energy is changing, guys.
Speaker 2: I hate to sit here and preach and get on
Speaker 2: my soapbox, but the energy is changing, and if you
Speaker 2: don't do it and start maybe doing more than just podcasting,
Speaker 2: we're gonna start losing a battle. You guys are just
Speaker 2: going to have more content to talk about. All right,
Speaker 2: you guys might get some more money in your pocket.
Speaker 2: But what the fuck are we really doing there? I
Speaker 2: called out NDS earlier. I said, your name is Death
Speaker 2: the Nephluin Squad. I just brought the fight to your
Speaker 2: front door.
Speaker 17: Can we got to get out there and fight?
Speaker 9: Dude?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well they're just talking about nothing. I'm here to
Speaker 2: fight them because I'm not making money off this ship
Speaker 2: and I probably never will, mostly because of the way
Speaker 2: I speak. So change for us.
Speaker 12: People keeps telling me I'm an flum because I have
Speaker 12: red hair, and I'm like, what the fuck is that
Speaker 12: even supposed to mean? Like, I love the Lord, I
Speaker 12: don't fucking eat children. I don't get like, literally, we
Speaker 12: need to define what the definition is a little bit more.
Speaker 2: I say the worst thing about Julia a lot, but
Speaker 2: you know it's not wrong with that either, so I can't.
Speaker 14: So I think we got to get into a uh
Speaker 14: sort of a you know, war mode, and I think
Speaker 14: that means everybody needs to attend and some sort of
Speaker 14: astral projection boot camp.
Speaker 1: Right, you got to get out there.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, bro s.
Speaker 1: Psychedelics, right, Bro, No, you won't have to, Julia, Julia, I'm.
Speaker 2: Psychedelics, don't. I know way too many people who overdo
Speaker 2: the psychedelics. I honestly I did it more than once,
Speaker 2: and I didn't need to. I'm telling you that one
Speaker 2: time I took it, I was not ready for it.
Speaker 2: It changed my fucking life and I was only about
Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen years old. I've not looked.
Speaker 12: I mean, I've smoked weed a couple of times where
Speaker 12: I've literally thought that I was leaving my body. But
Speaker 12: I think I just got like too fucked up. Like
Speaker 12: I took a big bomb rip and like felt like
Speaker 12: I was levitating and shit. So if if I have
Speaker 12: to take psychedelics, I already know it's going.
Speaker 20: To be a fuck that because I had a complete.
Speaker 2: They're not for everybody, you know, and that's going to kids.
Speaker 6: You know, that's a mistake they make whenever they take them,
Speaker 6: and I'm not they expect just trying to have a
Speaker 6: good or whatever it's they're used for, you know, other purposes.
Speaker 12: Especially looking into conspiracies, like sometimes you know, you get
Speaker 12: too high and you read something like program to Kill
Speaker 12: and you're like, I think I'll just you know, I
Speaker 12: think I think I'll kill myself.
Speaker 2: I don't know what else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, okay, definitely yeah.
Speaker 2: Really good one.
Speaker 23: They got a visitors center right on campus. I'm actually inciting.
Speaker 23: Well I'm not excited, but it doesn't give you any pictures,
Speaker 23: but they definitely have one of course. Yeah, they also
Speaker 23: have a memorialble place too. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm looking
Speaker 23: at it right now, like, yes, right about this.
Speaker 2: Kids.
Speaker 12: They have one at the Oklahoma City Bottom Memorial to
Speaker 12: You got to pay like twenty dollars a person to
Speaker 12: get into the fucking thing, and then they give you
Speaker 12: a tour of how many kids got blowed up, and
Speaker 12: it's like, why did I pay for this?
Speaker 20: Like this is kind of morbid, horrible.
Speaker 2: Matt.
Speaker 14: I got a question. Do they make you stand on
Speaker 14: anything metal? Is there any like plaque or anything on
Speaker 14: the ground that's metal that you have to stand on
Speaker 14: on any of these tours or any of these sort
Speaker 14: of like self flagellations Oh, good question.
Speaker 8: There's definitely big stones about his area.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just that much at all. I know what
Speaker 2: you're talking about, like like a like a big metal
Speaker 2: disc with with writing eye and memorialize on the ground
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe and there's something in front of it.
Speaker 2: They have a couple of memorials. I don't I don't
Speaker 2: remember if they have anything like that. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I I don't go to Kent that often, even though
Speaker 2: I live right down the street and my mom still
Speaker 2: lives in Kent. But uh, I'm gonna have to go.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go to campus and walk around
Speaker 2: and see. I feel like I need to do some
Speaker 2: like live tours. When I go, I'll just go on
Speaker 2: campus and start talking about it on some lives or something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: very much, no problem. Thank you for having me everyone,
Speaker 2: and thank you.
Speaker 17: For adding to it.
Speaker 2: Thank you for adding to the research and asking great questions.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm not a great storyteller, and there's
Speaker 2: so much information with this, like it's really hard not
Speaker 2: to bounce around. Thanks for bearing with me and still
Speaker 2: like understanding what my retarded brain was trying to spit out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't even know where else what else to say. Guys,
Speaker 2: thank you and just awakened Lion on Instagram awaken line
Speaker 2: twenty nine on x If you guys want to correlate,
Speaker 2: message me, follow me, give me any of your research,
Speaker 2: or have me on your show. Sometimes my whole life
Speaker 2: has been a conspiracy. Autism has touched my family pretty hard,
Speaker 2: you know. I also get into a lot of, like
Speaker 2: you know, spiritual thought. I grew up in an abusive
Speaker 2: household for my stepfather, So I love looking at the
Speaker 2: psychology of how people's minds work and the whole even
Speaker 2: just relationships with men and women through family. My like
Speaker 2: I said, I grew up with a stepfather and even
Speaker 2: looking at his family in the history behind it. It's
Speaker 2: just medical conspiracy all over the place. So I got
Speaker 2: a lot to add to different conversations. If you guys
Speaker 2: want to have me on, please hit me up.
Speaker 12: I feel that the chef was on fire tonight too.
Speaker 12: I'll look at all these comments and stuff. Somebody said,
Speaker 12: I love you.
Speaker 1: I saw that somebody's love and you.
Speaker 2: Haven't recorded anything, but I am working on working on
Speaker 2: my own show. It will be called the Hometown Profit.
Speaker 2: Awesome nobody's profit in their own hometown.
Speaker 1: Okay, nice. Oh and you know after the show man,
Speaker 1: throw me any link you want me to put into
Speaker 1: the show notes the chef, because I don't think I go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so people can reach out to you as well if
Speaker 1: they want to, you know, talk to you about this.
Speaker 1: But yeah, thank you very much, Matthew. I really appreciate
Speaker 1: it real quick. For the people that are still here. Well,
Speaker 1: first I'm gonna plug well, Chef, you're still here, so
Speaker 1: you can plug that show Dark Florida, Brooke she left,
Speaker 1: Go check out Dark Florida. Uh yeah, podcast, paranormal Crypti stuff, Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, all right, Lisa, what's up? What's going on?
Speaker 7: Thank you for having me on, and.
Speaker 2: Matt amazing presentation.
Speaker 7: Learned a lot. I had never even heard that thesis
Speaker 7: that it wasn't real, so that threw me for a loop.
Speaker 7: So thank you for bringing that into blunting the seed
Speaker 7: into that. Thank you fellow rejects for having such an
Speaker 7: amazing discussion. And again, I just would like to plug
Speaker 7: ac cult Research into dot org.
Speaker 2: Check us out.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. And hello is John.
Speaker 14: Hey, you can find me on Twitter and x and
Speaker 14: I've got a show on Thursday nights where I read
Speaker 14: your emails. If you send them to the Headless Giant
Speaker 14: Podcast at gmail dot com, thank you.
Speaker 1: You'll get you'll get a story and you'll get a sigil, symbol,
Speaker 1: engraving or something. We always pull something out of our
Speaker 1: rest to share with you, so definitely check it out.
Speaker 1: And we got to shove. What is going on?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 2: Yeah, first, thank you for having me.
Speaker 11: I greatly appreciate it. It's been an awesome Friday night.
Speaker 11: It was very nice meeting meeting you all. I'm only
Speaker 11: familiar with a handful. Matthew, you did a good job. Brother,
Speaker 11: that was awesome. Keep keep getting a dude, you're doing
Speaker 11: a great job. And yeah, you can find me. We're
Speaker 11: over at Rumble and Instagram, s n s S pod,
Speaker 11: I believe and.
Speaker 9: X as we also what's up here?
Speaker 11: Thank you Jules, So Jules knows I always forget what
Speaker 11: my what the Twitter handle is? I'm not super I'm
Speaker 11: not on there a lot that is at s n
Speaker 11: SS pod.
Speaker 2: Love you too, bro, and yeah, thanks thanks again for
Speaker 2: having me.
Speaker 1: No, no, thank you, I appreciate it. Other blessed thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Julia, what is going on?
Speaker 12: I love doing these shows because I feel like it's
Speaker 12: just hanging out with my besties. Please meet new people.
Speaker 2: Phil.
Speaker 12: I've been wanting to meet you for a while now,
Speaker 12: obviously everybody else. Matthew. Great to meet you. I met.
Speaker 12: I think I have done a couple of shows with
Speaker 12: a few of you before, but Chef, it was great
Speaker 12: to meet you and Hank Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you
Speaker 12: listen to podcasts. If you want to work with me,
Speaker 12: get in touch with me through my email. It's ghosts
Speaker 12: dot Peach at outlook dot com. Don't send me a
Speaker 12: message on Instagram. I don't check that bitch. Please send
Speaker 12: me an email. Thanks for having me, Matthew. Is a
Speaker 12: great show. Loved it, very entertaining.
Speaker 2: Thanks again, no problem.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Julie. Always appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 1: We got Phil. What is going on? Phil? Oh?
Speaker 3: It was a great, great couple of hours and I
Speaker 3: enjoyed it and I.
Speaker 9: Said, it just worked out.
Speaker 5: I mean book that you know, a topic that I
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 9: I read and reviewed the book on and it.
Speaker 5: Was a lot of fun. Vic Foster on Twitter.
Speaker 3: I do post some of the book reviews, well, anyones
Speaker 3: that they post. Uh, And every now and then I
Speaker 3: get to review a good conspiracy or a cult related
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: Hopefully I'll get.
Speaker 3: To post my occult Elvis reviews soon and uh, which
Speaker 3: I got introduced because of one of your guests, Nick,
Speaker 3: and uh. You know, it's always a lot of fun
Speaker 3: talking about conspiracies and other fun topics like this.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for coming on.
Speaker 13: Man.
Speaker 1: I always appreciate whatever you have to bring to the
Speaker 1: show because you don't always got something going on in
Speaker 1: that audio's to head and we got tyrone what is
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 18: So good?
Speaker 9: Good?
Speaker 8: Uh, prestation, Matthew.
Speaker 1: That was good.
Speaker 16: I learned something new today, so uh, you know it.
Speaker 16: It was great in learning that stuff. Everything that you
Speaker 16: want to find on me, just go to rebirth at
Speaker 16: the word dot com and you'll catch everything.
Speaker 8: That I'm on on there. Thanks again, Nick.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, no, thank you for coming my
Speaker 1: man and Jules.
Speaker 17: Man, this was another great show. I always appreciate you
Speaker 17: inviting me. Get me new people. UH got to get
Speaker 17: you on, Matthew. I think it'd be fun.
Speaker 18: Guys Grateful pot on Twitter, Rumble, YouTube, Spotify, Apple podcasts,
Speaker 18: You go follow me over there, go over to Patreon, Patreon,
Speaker 18: dot com, slash Grateful podcast doing an Esotery book review
Speaker 18: in the morning's Patreon only. Probably I think we're reading
Speaker 18: a Cult Anatomy of Man so and then we're doing
Speaker 18: twin Twin Peaks watch party tomorrow most definitely.
Speaker 8: So.
Speaker 2: I yet watched that ever your talking about it, you
Speaker 2: guys talk about this.
Speaker 18: Time watching it, and I'm watching it with my audience
Speaker 18: and now they're all obsessed with all the stuff in it.
Speaker 18: To shout out Isaac wiseup though for kind of getting
Speaker 18: me on it.
Speaker 9: At for.
Speaker 17: I got him coming on.
Speaker 1: Later this month to talk about it.
Speaker 17: So that's gonna be a banger.
Speaker 18: Yeah, everybody go check out the episode with NDS from
Speaker 18: yesterday and all the episodes we've done.
Speaker 17: I think it's my third Occult Rejects episode this week.
Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, man, Yeah, So shout out out to you
Speaker 18: the Cult Rejects, y'all go follow them and yeah, another
Speaker 18: great show. I appreciate it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, man. I always appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 1: Don't want to try to bug it to get you
Speaker 1: to come on. So thank you.
Speaker 17: Oh man, I'm always down, dude, if I'm free.
Speaker 1: Yah. Well, normally the timing that it's only the timing
Speaker 1: is off, and uh, I guess Ethan indigo. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's still here or not, but I'll plug
Speaker 1: his stuff. Go check out his books. He definitely has
Speaker 1: got a plethora of books. He's got a bunch of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 16: I'm actually going I'm actually going to buy his book, bro,
Speaker 16: and I'm actually getting his book from Amazon.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go read him nice. Nice. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: go check out his stuff. And he is on Twitter
Speaker 1: as well, and he's rather active on.
Speaker 7: That, so go check out out the Research Institute dot
Speaker 7: org as well.
Speaker 1: Yes he has. He's actually been one of the more
Speaker 1: consistent ones. He's making me look bad. Thank you Ethan.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and I thank you everybody in the chat.
Speaker 1: That is what's up. There's a lot of people.
Speaker 2: One one more thing, Nick, because Jules just reminded me.
Speaker 2: I also did a show with NDS today on the
Speaker 2: Primary water and the kidnapping of Joe Gilberti and his
Speaker 2: efforts to bring primary water to the entire world. Like
Speaker 2: I said earlier, that story is ten times fucking bigger
Speaker 2: than this, So if anybody wants to check that out,
Speaker 2: it's out for free. They had to pull it off
Speaker 2: of YouTube. It should be back on there because we
Speaker 2: talked about alkaline water. I'm sorry we said the word
Speaker 2: alkaline and they pulled us from YouTube instantly.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we did it.
Speaker 9: All the labooo dolls.
Speaker 17: But it's still still still a good episode. I had
Speaker 17: to check that one out that y'all did.
Speaker 2: Please it's it's it's not my story. I just, like
Speaker 2: I said, I asked God for purpose and he dropped
Speaker 2: this story in my lap. And I was literally the
Speaker 2: only person on the internet who found it and gave
Speaker 2: a shit about it. And now it's about possibly uh
Speaker 2: have its own documentary if NDS has anything to do
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 11: So beyond this, it's pretty wild. It's pretty wild. I
Speaker 11: didn't think it was when I first heard about it.
Speaker 11: I was like, okay, okay, but then once I got
Speaker 11: like the full the full story, it's yeah, it's pretty wild.
Speaker 11: It's a very deep story.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Uh yeah yeah. And uh, where was I at? Oh?
Speaker 1: I was thanking the chat that's right. Sorry, Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you everybody that was packed. It was from old
Speaker 1: channels too. I appreciate everybody saying stuff and comment there.
Speaker 1: That's where we go live. Uh, that is the end
Speaker 1: of another cult rejects and until the next one, everybody
Speaker 1: be will.
Speaker 5: La Baby, I'm a gag stuck too.
Speaker 2: It takes at a tangle mess with mess my game
Speaker 2: stick to.
Speaker 9: Baby, You're game stick too.
Speaker 18: For good warning, so this podcast is designed to take
Speaker 18: you outside of your comfort zone and make you question reality.
Speaker 2: Listener Discretion is a vibek with the Fellas. This ain't
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