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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice.

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Speaker 2: Mix in some vodka. Call it a podcast from the

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Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by

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Speaker 1: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oil. Hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pod on,

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Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the

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word about the BIRS ship. I got an email about

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some radio segments we had done and somebody said they

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enjoyed listening to it. And oh, by the way, I

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represent this guy known as the Dadbod veteran. I had

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seen the Dad Bod Veteran on TikTok. His name is

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John Wellington, and I I didn't realize he had an

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Instagram and a YouTube and a Facebook and all this stuff.

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But this is a former Navy guy and he's now

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part of a gen X Takeover comedy tour. And just

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because of this device right here, this dumb little phone,

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he's become a star because he knew how to use

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it right. And I love these kind of conversations. And

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he is a gen X guy, and I think that

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being a gen X guy myself, we probably have a

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few things in common.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe just a few things.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm probably older than you are.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. The beard gives me a little bit

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of grace, but maybe.

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Speaker 2: I am fifty four. I was born in Si Yeah,

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you just.

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Speaker 1: Got me by a couple forty six. I'm a baby

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gen X.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my brother is uh then would be around your

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age as well. But talk to me about this because

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I always think it's it's funny when people have real

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job and then they go into entertainment because you were

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Do you understand what I'm saying like this.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I am a firm believer in everything

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you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Right, It's like they you were probably putting shells into

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I don't know, artillery somewhere right on a ship, making

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sure shit, but the shit could blow up. Who knews

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what sticky situation you were going to be in. And oh,

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by the way, now you're on a comedy tour and

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I go to me, that's the greatest thing in the world.

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It's the one of the reasons our country is great

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is because you can do, or be or have anything

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you really want. And yet at the same time, I

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think it makes you appreciate probably where you are now

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more than anybody could imagine.

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Speaker 1: God, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, First of all, this

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is the dumbest thing in the world. To the fact

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that you can take this and turn your life around

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because you spend too much time on it and you

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have too much free time is insane. I mean, growing

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up from our generation that that not possible, right, But

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yet here we are, and it's exactly that. You know,

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I did my time in the Navy, and I was

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in New York Harbor in nine to eleven, and then

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I went into the corporate world and I've been in

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the corporate world for twenty years now. And then all

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of a sudden, because I was at home and board

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and I started making videos on my porch, it turned

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into this and now I'm doing a stand up comedy career,

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which I've been doing stand up comedy for a total

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of one year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: First time that I did it was with these guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it's insane, all right. I feel like we're

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jumping a little ahead, but that's okay, because I want

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to talk about how that kind of came to be.

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And for someone who's never done stand up, like I

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will say to me, stand up. Comedy is the ultimate

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art form. And I say that because when you have

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a band and somebody fucks up, I can play. You know,

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somebody can cover a note, somebody can cover somebody's pitchiness.

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Right when it's stand up, it's you a microphone and

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you know what I'm saying, And that's whoom right. And

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so I remember being in New York City walking through

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Soho and you know, people trying to make it in

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the comedy world are just looking for stage time all

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the time. Well, they were literally pulling people off the

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street and putting them in the audience. And some of

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the people were writers for the Chris Rock Show, the

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HBO show at the time and all this stuff. So

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you had talented people. I gotta tell you, man, no

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one was laughing. People were walking out. They weren't there

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to see comedy. So right there, that's the toughest. And

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I go, if you could get them to laugh, you're

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gonna be great. You're gonna be fine. And so I think,

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for you, I go, what was that like the first

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time you step on stage? And obviously it's an audience

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that's already familiar with you, which really does help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that definitely helps. We first of all, we

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never intended to have this happen. We recited as no,

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we didn't. We were four creators who didn't know each

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other in person, and we just said, let's go to

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Nashville and let's go hang out together. So we thought

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we were gonna, you know, run an Airbnb, eat Bond Bonds,

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watch rom Comms, paint or toenails, and then you know,

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our people. That was the intent of it all. But

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our wives got involved and they were like, no, no, no,

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we're not going to pay for this, so we're gonna

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pimp you out. So they called the local comedy club.

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And one of us, Nick had done comedy before.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, he does a lot of music stuff, music

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related stuff on and.

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Speaker 1: His lifelong dream has always been to be a stand

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up comedian. That's always been his thing, okay, and so

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he was experienced in it, and the other three of

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us had never done it before. And you know, they

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came back and they said, hey, we booked a comedy

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club and you're going to do stand up comedy. And

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the three of us are like, what the what does

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that mean?

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Speaker 2: So who's who whose wife do you blame for this?

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Was it? I'm thinking it's yours?

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Speaker 1: Uh, It's it's mostly Nick and Nick's next wife and

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then Sherry's wife are really the head honchos who are

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to blame. Luckily, mine's kind of passive in this whole situation.

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conversation about the tour, but she was not really involved

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in all that. She was a supporting spouse at that point.

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and just the four of us, we promote it and

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it's a small hundred seater and poof, we sell it

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out in an hour. They were like, oh okay. So

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we call the comedy club. We say, hey, can we

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do another one the same day? And they're like, sure,

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we got yours the whole afternoon. So we book another

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one and we sold that one out in a day.

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shows at a small venue in Nashville for a bunch

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of people who don't know what the hell are doing

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except for one. And then we decide we say, well,

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let's have an after party on top of that. So

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we rent out this place called Pins mechanical in Nashville.

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And we sell tickets to that separately, and six hundred

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people buy tickets. Wow, and we're like, what the hell?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, but it's how amazing, how what a what

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a cool validation of all the stuff that you're doing,

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you know what I mean. Yeah, you talk into a camera,

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you think you're alone, and nobody gives a flying crap

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about you, and then all of a sudden, six hundred

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people in a just throw a dart at a map

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in a city, right, and we'll say it's Nashville. And yeah,

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by the way, Nashville's a lot of shit to do,

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you know what I'm saying. There's a lot of stuff

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to do. There's a lot of choices for your entertainment dollar.

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The fact that they want to spend it with you,

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I think, speaks volumes that should make you, all of

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you feel so great about what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: It validates or invalidates the imposter syndrome because we all

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have it. Sure, you know, we all come from different

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backgrounds and different histories of life. And you know, me

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a veteran and Sharry a business person, and Kelly is

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the person that she's been in a radio talent and Nick,

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of course, with everything that he's done, it definitely invalidates

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that imposter senior. But you know it started there and

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that first time that we did it, we were all

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going to throw up on each other in the back.

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just like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm doing this,

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had no idea what I was doing.

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Speaker 2: Went up.

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Speaker 1: I threw a set out that I thought was good,

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you know flashbacks. It wasn't good, but they laughed, and

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you know, we decided to do another one up in Cleveland.

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We sold that out at a dueling piano bar. This

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is great. Two hundred and fifty people.

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Speaker 2: Where's let me interrupt real quick, Where's home for you?

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Speaker 1: Charleston, South Carolina? Which is actually our next show coming

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up October twenty sixth. Well, we got a Seattle show

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and then we got a Charleston show. But we're doing

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twenty three hundred seat venues now in less than a year.

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Speaker 2: That's incredible because you know, theaters having done stand up.

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great room to see, right, but those other places are great.

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I think that's amazing and it's got to feel really

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good for you. Talk to me about the in the Evolution.

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is reps. Right, the more reps you do at something,

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the better you get at it. So you know, for

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you with comedy, have you had people writing for you? You're

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doing all your own writing. You're doing it all.

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Speaker 1: I do all my own writing. It's all life experience.

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I know I have watched comedians forever, sure, and I

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resonate towards the storytellers like Berg Kreischer and those folks

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that tell stories that aren't just a one liner. So

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most of my content is, you know, story based. A

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lot of it is picking on my kids, and you know,

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they all know that they're all set up for that.

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my own stuff. I have a little karaoke machine and

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the Missus and I. Before every show, we sit in

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the living room and she listens to my whole set.

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She times me, she gives me feedback. Cut this out,

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do that, do that, and then when we get to

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you know, showtime, it's it's game time and we just

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walk out on the field and throw a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: How much How much time are you doing?

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Speaker 1: We're just doing twenty minutes sets. Yeah, before it was

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Speaker 2: But that's a lot, right, And especially for someone who

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a middle act in most comedy clubs. I think that's

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really rough. Talk to me about the character voice. Do

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you use that on stage or you talk like I

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was surprised when I heard your voice, and I wanted

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to see so I sought you out on another podcast

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and I was listening for a little bit and you

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have popped on and I was like, oh, wow, you

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have a really pleasant speaking voice. By that other voice,

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I would never have associated I actually have watched your

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videos at one point tried to see if you were

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to somebody else's vook. I couldn't. I go, that's an

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amazing like it. That voice I just never expected to

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come out of you.

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Speaker 1: It's hilarious because when I started doing ads for sponsors

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send them to me and be like, look, they're doing

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it and I'm like, no, no, no, that's actually me.

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gonna put it out there now. It's always been a

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thing that I've done since I'm a kid. Is I

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love to imitate voices of different accents, et cetera. This

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one just happened to stick with everybody, and I've tried

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to change it. I've tried to introduce new voices in

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my content and people are like, no, I don't like it,

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so I go back to what works. But in the show,

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up until the last show, I did not do the

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voice at all. But we now have a bit that

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I do with Kelly that I do a narration for

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part of her comedy skit, and so I kind of

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just step on stage and narrate something that's going.

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Speaker 2: On in Oh Okay. The voice is.

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Speaker 2: The audience, it's just.

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Speaker 1: All they they went wild. They went wild because it's

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absolutely hilarious. I'm not going to give it away, but

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it is an absolutely hilarious bit on its own, and

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then you throw it, throw me on top of it,

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and the voice on top of it. It is just

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a beautiful cake beautiful Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How fun is that too? Yeah? You know, everything in

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life has started with an idea that somebody had in

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their head, right, whether it be a building or a road

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or whatever. But for a guy who has had his

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first kid at eighteen, that had to grow up real fast.

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say doing some military service is another You're gonna grow

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up real fast. I mean, there's no bullshit here.

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Speaker 1: It's the same time.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's it's like holy, I mean, your life.

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You just think about this several months prior to all

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that you were in high school.

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Speaker 1: I would assume no, two weeks okay, two weeks after

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I graduate high school?

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Speaker 2: This is what I mean. Okay, so a couple, right,

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and then and when did you know that you were

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having the kid while you were still in high school?

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Speaker 1: When I was in boot camp? First phone call, hall, okay,

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I it was a graduation present. Yeah, to say it

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that way, so graduation, you know. Yeah, and then, uh,

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we didn't know until after I got to boot camp.

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And I mean my first phone call home, she was crying.

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I was like, what are you crying about? She goes, oh,

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by the way, and I go ooh, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: You said that.

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Speaker 1: No, I seriously, I was like, I was like totally

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because you know, I've always been a kind of a

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fu and so here here I am. And you know,

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she wasn't exactly happy about it, but we had a

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good twelve year marriage out of it and we're still

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best friends.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, how was how were your parents and her parents?

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my parents.

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Speaker 1: My dad had already passed, but my mom was like

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totally a static because she's like, I got grandkids.

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Speaker 2: Fine, yeah, yeah, I was the.

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Speaker 1: First one to have grandkids. Out of me and my siblings.

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Speaker 2: Her mom.

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Speaker 1: Her mom believes and still believes that all things are

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meant to happen. Okay, you know, whatever happens is meant

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to happen, right, So with that, you can be happy

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about the situation, right because that was something that was

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supposed to happen. So they both took it very positively.

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And again we're still friends of this day. And you

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know you grew up I did Charleston, South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: There is no accent.

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Speaker 1: I mean there can be. There gonna be an accent

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if I want to, I can turn it on off.

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It just depends on who I'm talking to.

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Speaker 2: I think there was a radio station down there. Is

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there something called the twin something or the duel or

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like two frequencies because it's maybe they were more out

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on the coasts. I don't know. I was on a

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bunch of their stations for iHeart back in the day,

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and I just remember reading you. They would send you

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liners and stuff, and so you have to talk about

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these towns like you live there, you know what I mean.

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And I always thought this is this is the death

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of radio right here, This is the death. You cannot

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homogenize this shit, and you know, just all of it.

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And then of course the other stuff is I'll seek

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out my entertainment the way I like it. And I

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love that people from the gen X have found you guys.

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And I don't know, man, you got such a cool,

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calming way about you that it doesn't seem like you're easy,

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easily flustered at all.

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Speaker 1: No, I've been accused of being the adultiest one in

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our group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the one who plans everything out and make

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sure sure all the things are laid out. Yeah, it's

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just it's just the way I am. Maybe it's the Navy,

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Maybe it's just you know, having so many damn kids.

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Is I got to make sure everything's laid out?

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Speaker 2: De risk Yeah, and de risked. So how did this

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come together for the the gen X takeover? Right with

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the Professor and the real was it the real Slim Kelly? Yes? Sorry,

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I'm sorry, but the real I won't tell her, Please

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don't do that. But I'm such a fan. I how

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does that come together? Right? Because here again is people

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from different parts of the country normally when right and

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you all come together and you've built this mini empire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Sherry's in Atlanta. Kelly's in Saint Louis. Nick

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is in New Orleans. Uh. Sherry and Nick had gone

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to the Cheer Choice Awards the year before, which is

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like the Emmys if you will, for so media Creators.

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It's in Vegas. They had gone to that. I didn't

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go to that, and I guess they had a discussion about,

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you know, we should do some type of event creator event,

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et cetera. And so Sherry and I have never met

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before this point, but we have very parallel pass We

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started out almost exactly the same time. Our growth was

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almost the same trajectory where Nick and Kelly had been

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in the social media for a lot longer than we had.

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So we had DMed back and forth a couple of

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times just to chat it up. And then one day

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she sent me a thing and said, hey, you want

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to do this, And I'm like, sure. I'm in the

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business of not saying no to anything right now, because

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I believe right now, at this point that the world

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will say no for me if it's not supposed to

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be done, like either I won't have enough money or

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I won't have time, So I'd just say yes. I

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said yes, and you know, then you know, between the

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time that I said yes and the time that we

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actually got to Nashville, all the wives got involved in

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that transpired. It didn't really turn into this huge thing

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until after Cleveland, because that after Cleveland we realized we

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had something we legitimately. Now now we've gone to two states,

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completely separate, completely different demos, and people were raving about it.

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And also we started to get some people calling us

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that would not normally contact us, and so we said, okay,

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let's make a tour and let's just do a couple

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of cities just to try it out. So we tried

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Atlanta next, and in Atlanta was when we brought on

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probably one of the biggest catalysts to this thing growing,

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which is our tour manager, Reuben Buck out of Seattle.

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Ruben is very very intimate in the comedy scene. In fact,

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him and Donald Rawlings and Dave Chappelle are actually very

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tight together. He's every time I talk about a comedian,

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he pulls out his phone and he goes, oh, you

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mean this guy, and it's his phone number, and I'm like,

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like neighbor Gatzi and Bert, and you know, I was like, Oh,

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how does this dude know all these people? And so

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he jumped on board because he had heard about it

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up in Seattle and he's he's he's a very early

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gen xer, you know, he's almost you know, sixty one now,

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Oh my god, and so he wanted to be part

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of it. Yeah, because he's you know, he's on his downslope.

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He's like, let me do one last cool thing that

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I think has legs. And so as soon as he

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went in there, he came in and grabbed that and

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he's like, Okay, we need to do this, this, this

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and this, and we're all like, I don't know what

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you're doing, but let's do it. So he brought in

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Justin Rupple, the Millennial, who is our host, who was

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a voice actor for How to Train a Dragon. Then

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we've also got Jojo Malagar who's now our musical component,

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who's on stage with us the whole time. You know,

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he does all the sound cues, et cetera. And it

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turned it into a production. He also got a relationship

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with our booking agent who has brought all the venues

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that we've got casinos and things, the same guys that

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do Vanilla Ice and Lodacris and the Isle of Nineties tour.

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So there's some future potential integrations with Vanilla Ice and

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some things coming up that you know would be really awesome.

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And yeah, it's it's just like we've already got twenty

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twenty seven or twenty twenty six almost booked out, and

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there's a potential twenty twenty seven talk. I mean, this

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is the dumbest thing I've ever been a part of,

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but I'm so happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: I gotta think it's it's probably one of the coolest things.

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And I think your attitude of just say yes and

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I'll call it the universe, you call it the world,

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We'll let you know. And I think that that is

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the way you need to live. I think we should

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all sort of live that way. We can't, right, especially

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when you know you had five kids, in the navy

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career and corporate career, whatever, But the uh, I think

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you open yourself up to possibilities and sometimes you know,

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I always go, there's two things in the world. It's fear, right, anxiety.

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All this shit is all fear based. All that stuff

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is just fear, and the other is love. And so

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where are you gonna go? And when it's just going

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I love it. I love entertaining. I love telling the

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stories this had. I mean, it's like mind boggling and

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I got it. Well it has to be, because I look,

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I did thirty years on the radio, I write, I

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did all this stuff. I did a lot of FM

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talk I was around. This is to me the coolest.

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I love that it's organic. You've made a connection with people.

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All people want is a connection and to feel like

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they matter, and you've built something cool and I got

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I think that's amazing. My question for you is five kids,

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how do they react to this?

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Speaker 1: So initially they were like, what are you doing? In fact,

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it's kind of funny. Is the youngest kid, the one

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who went to boot camp, knew nothing about this whole

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thing while he was in boot camp. And there was

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a huge trajectory that occurred while he was in boot camp.

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And then when he got out of boot camp and

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I went up to his graduation, he said I told

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him about it. He says, yeah, yeah, whatever, You're not anybody.

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I was like, okay, but just hold on a second.

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And so I went outside and he was getting out

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released from his little boot camp thing to come spend

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the after I'm in with us and I'm sitting there

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waiting outside of the front gate, and it was I

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just remember the look on his eyes. He got out

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and we're hugging and we're saying our thing. We were

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about to walk to the car. One of his drill

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sergeants walks up to me and says, are you the Dadbod?

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And he shakes my hand, and but I look on

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my son's face was hilarious. He went, I'm not kidding

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this true story. He went white and he says a

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drill sergeant and he's like, hey, are you a son.

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He's like yeah, he said, well you got a cool

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dad here. I mean, it was just he didn't know

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how to handle it. And then after that he goes, Dad,

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what happened?

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Speaker 2: Give me real quick? The uh the handles for people

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like TikTok Instagram, if you don't mind, they want to

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look you up. I know. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's the Dadbod veteran on all places, and you

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can go to the Dadbodveteran dot com and you've got

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the list and all the.

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Speaker 2: Ways all right there. Yeah, makes it really easy go

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on there and watch. By the way, TikTok. I always

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love when my kid tells me. I. I was on

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TikTok for a little while and then I stopped posting

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videos and things because it's a monster you got to keep,

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you got to feed it. Oh yeah, it's one of

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these things you gotta do. I mean, I would assume,

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do you like batch record a bunch of things and

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put them out every day or how many?

474
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Speaker 1: Well I've transitioned to most recently, I transition a little

475
00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:21,640
bit away from the reaction stuff, or if I've trickled

476
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,559
down on the reaction stuff, and now I'm doing these

477
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,799
daily dad Bod videos where I'm actually writing a script

478
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,000
where I pick a topic whatever it is. Like this morning,

479
00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:32,920
I picked a top but about taking baths and the

480
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,960
fact that I take a bath, and I decided to

481
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,680
do a video explaining sarcastically why I take a bath

482
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,240
from a gen xer's perspective, about my achy joints and

483
00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:44,160
EPs and salts and you know, this is my peaceful

484
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,960
place and blah blah blah. And I do one of

485
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,599
those every day, and maybe I'll do some reaction videos

486
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,920
that day, maybe not, but it's just my morning thing

487
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,519
that I do now is I make one daily dad

488
00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:56,400
Bod video and it's it's starting to catch on people

489
00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:58,920
like I needed this every day because it always ends

490
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,960
in a positive note. You know, no matter how sarcastic

491
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,200
the video is, no matter how insulting it is to myself,

492
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,920
I always end it on a positive note to give

493
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,279
somebody to carry something to carry forward with the rest

494
00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:11,920
of the day. So I'm trying new things here and

495
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,640
there because you know, as we all know in entertainment,

496
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,480
you know what you did is only going to last

497
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,759
for so long and then you've got to, unfortunately, reinvent

498
00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:20,920
yourself to stay relatives.

499
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Speaker 2: So why as you're talking and I'm thinking of there's

500
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,319
a lot of thought that goes into this. There's a

501
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lot of I would even think, you know, especially now

502
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,200
that you're doing stand up, you see the power of

503
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,599
the words right, word right, and word economy and all

504
00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:44,839
this stuff is so important in that world. Teachers you

505
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,279
tried to impress maybe along the way that have seen you,

506
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,880
Now have they reached out and complimented you on what

507
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,200
you're doing. I'm just curious.

508
00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:58,599
Speaker 1: I haven't had any teachers, but I've had coaches, okay, okay,

509
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,440
coaches that are like you're the you were the big

510
00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:04,319
dumb animal, like how are you doing.

511
00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: It's that That's where I'm going, because there's it's it

512
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:11,079
takes an intelligence to do this. It takes the thing,

513
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,720
and I go sometimes, you know, I don't know about you.

514
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,480
I was probably more the I like living on the edge.

515
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,039
I even as a kid, right, so I'd be right

516
00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:23,039
on the edge of always getting in trouble, being the

517
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:27,079
smart ass or being whatever. And to have somebody who

518
00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:30,279
you always wanted their approval as a teacher or something,

519
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,799
and then yeah, even to get it later in life,

520
00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:36,480
I just think that's so cool because they would go,

521
00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:40,480
I never never would have thought you would do this. Yeah.

522
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Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with all the friends from

523
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:44,119
high school. They're like, I never would have pegged you

524
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,319
to be the guy, yeah, And I'm like, neither would I.

525
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,319
So we're both in the same boat. But I was

526
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:52,200
the riddling baby. So I was the bouncing off the walls,

527
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,720
the riddling baby, and then the big dumb animal in

528
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:56,680
high school. But it wasn't because I was the big

529
00:25:56,759 --> 00:25:58,599
dumb animal. I was very smart. It was just I

530
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,839
was lazy. So I don't want to do it right now.

531
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:03,880
I'm in a scenario where I want to do this

532
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,799
so it's very easy to apply yourself when it's something

533
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:09,319
that you see is valuable.

534
00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:12,079
Speaker 2: It's something they always keep in mind. Is parenting too right?

535
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,640
To realize that with your own kids and not try

536
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,240
to beat them up too much? I guess on some

537
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:18,839
of these things.

538
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. That's really hard. It's so hard. That's hard.

539
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,039
But they're all you know. My goal with my kids

540
00:26:24,039 --> 00:26:26,759
has always been that they need to be independent first,

541
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,160
and then they can be successful. I don't care if

542
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,640
you're successful. I care more that you're independent, just in case,

543
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,880
you know, the world decides that my time is over.

544
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,680
I want you to be able to live and survive.

545
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:38,640
So every life lessons that I've ever given to them

546
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,279
has been all about that first, and then we'll be successful.

547
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Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure talking to you. And I apologize

548
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,039
for the informal meandering that I did with.

549
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: This, but no, this is this is cool. I love

550
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:53,079
doing it.

551
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Speaker 2: It is fun, and I think you're probably you're very

552
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:59,240
natural at talking and stuff. And man, I hope when

553
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,359
you guys are in Buffalo and marched that maybe we

554
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,759
put together a bus and go up and see you.

555
00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 1: Come on, man, bring it on. You'll give me a

556
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,160
holler before you come, and we'll take care of you.

557
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be uh, that would be a lot

558
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,039
of fun, and it would be fun to kind of

559
00:27:12,079 --> 00:27:12,799
see that you can do it.

560
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: Maybe can do a live one, get all four of

561
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us on there.

562
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:17,519
Speaker 2: That would be a lot of fun. That actually would

563
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be a lot of fun.

564
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,519
Speaker 1: Oh listen, I tell you what. You get the four

565
00:27:20,519 --> 00:27:23,119
of us in a room, and it's watching four rabid

566
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,759
monkeys fight. I mean we are. The dynamics between the

567
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:29,400
four of us is insane. There have been people that

568
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,960
have come into the group, a very small group, and

569
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,319
they're like, what the is going on with these guys?

570
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:36,319
And we're like, there's just four creatives who are all

571
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,599
kind of spastic working.

572
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Speaker 2: Together, right, And yeah it's magic, yep, But it's crazy

573
00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:43,519
to watch content creation. I think it's uh. I love it,

574
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and I love that it's the gen X people taking

575
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:50,160
over and doing it. I think that's fantastic. You're never

576
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,240
too old, right.

577
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,799
Speaker 1: We're no longer the forgotten generation. We are now the

578
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:55,240
generation that no one will forget.

579
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: Awesome, well said John Wellington. A pleasure, Thank you so

580
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,119
much for time, Yes, sir, thank you, appreciate it all right,

581
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:08,279
just one last thing. It's just me sitting here. So

582
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:15,440
I wanted to find a way to talk about the

583
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:20,519
Jimmy Kimmel situation maybe a little differently. I saw Dave Portnoy,

584
00:28:20,599 --> 00:28:26,759
who I always appreciate people who have opinions that I

585
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,839
feel like are thought based, right, which I know that

586
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,599
sounds kind of dumb. Right to have an opinion, you

587
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,720
got to be thinking, But I feel like he may

588
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,519
he made a point I think some people will agree with.

589
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,599
He said, what happened to Jimmy Kimmel is not cancel culture,

590
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,920
because cancel culture involves digging up things from the past,

591
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:53,759
tweets and things on people and using that to make

592
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:56,480
them less popular, or get them or knock them down,

593
00:28:56,519 --> 00:29:00,359
so to speak. And my answer back to that is

594
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,799
I disagree with that statement. I think that sure, that's

595
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:10,079
how certain people seemed to get canceled from past behaviors.

596
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,880
Probably the most notable would be Bill Cosby, and we go, well,

597
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,079
maybe it should have happened, right, I mean, he was

598
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,240
pretty disgusting in what he was accused of doing. And

599
00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:26,400
when you have sixty women coming out and saying it

600
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,119
all happened to them in one or two you can

601
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,559
kind of goa, they're making it up this you certainly

602
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,359
can't so, but I don't necessarily agree with that. And

603
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,640
I was thinking Roseanne Barr was canceled and kicked off

604
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,680
her show for a tweet that she sent out a

605
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,839
social media post that she tried to say she was

606
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:52,759
on Ambient and people were highly offended by it. And

607
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:58,960
again ABC ironically decided that she shouldn't be on the

608
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,319
show anymore because it would possibly lose advertisers coase what

609
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:09,480
she wrote was considered so controversial. Uh. I just here's

610
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,480
the thing that I go back to, and I'm hoping

611
00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:16,640
people really really see this point, because I again I

612
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,240
think these these situations become emotionally charged, and when we're

613
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:29,559
emotionally charged, we're not necessarily thinking logically or understanding others' points.

614
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:32,519
And that's why I saw the Portnoy thing and I go,

615
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,799
maybe your first ace full of shit. Well, no, he

616
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,440
has a valid argument there. I'm not going to agree

617
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,200
with it, because I think cancel is just being canceled

618
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,400
for something you said, whether it's in the present moment

619
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or the past, especially if it's in the past and

620
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:52,599
the person has a pattern of doing better why are

621
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,000
we going to punish them for something they did a

622
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:58,759
long time ago? And Dave's right, not necessarily famous people,

623
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:02,559
but students have lost scutolarships for something they wrote. You know,

624
00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:05,480
they were picked by a school the play wide receiver,

625
00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:08,480
I don't know, at a D one level, and then

626
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:10,759
they're they're gone. They lose the scholarship because of something

627
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,039
they put out when they were fourteen fifteen years old

628
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,799
of social media. Is there a lesson in there? Yes,

629
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,160
the lesson would be be careful what you're putting out

630
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,920
on social media and words have consequences. And that was

631
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,680
more of Portnoy's point with Jimmy Kimmel, that what he

632
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:35,359
said had consequences. Yes, And I go back to you know,

633
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,319
and I've said this continuously now for a couple of

634
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:41,119
weeks over different situations. It's a business decision if you

635
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,519
start losing money as a network, and you're also on

636
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:47,960
government airwaves. But when you see headlines like the FCC

637
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,839
head was offended by what this person said, saying offensive

638
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,279
things is not illegal. Saying offensive things should not cost

639
00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:00,279
you your job. And I'm not again he suspended, not

640
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,119
fired as of the moment, But can we start to

641
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,039
see a pattern of you know, the President did say

642
00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:11,799
Colbert is just the beginning and the other two better

643
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,559
be blah blah blah. Sure Jimmy would go at the president,

644
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,759
but isn't that what we want in a free speech world?

645
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:24,559
And again ABC, so if it's government airwaves, I would

646
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:27,279
look for these shows to start showing up online in

647
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:29,680
some way. You know, the only thing that Late Night

648
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,119
really has is the personality. And you know, you can say,

649
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,240
I'm glad Jimmy Kimmel's gone, right, but but what about

650
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,200
somebody you really like? And if they said something that

651
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:43,559
was controversial and taken away, it comes down to sort

652
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:48,279
of this power struggle. You know. I still will say

653
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,200
the Charlie Kirk situation, to me is a free speech

654
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,799
issue that concerns me gravely over the fact that people

655
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,359
not express ideas that they believe to be true and

656
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,319
trying to be beneficial. And I know there are people

657
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:09,319
going do you hear the things he said? He said

658
00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:11,519
things that were inflammatory, But if we got to the

659
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:14,359
root of it, I really do feel like he was

660
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:21,319
challenging people to defend their positions and think critically. I

661
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:27,000
don't think that that's necessarily a bad thing. However, I understand,

662
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,440
but I can't cheer that person being killed. And I

663
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,640
certainly think that other people will say less now because

664
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:42,319
somebody has died for saying that, we can say we're

665
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:44,920
going to be brave and stuff, and even Charlie apparently

666
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,440
I think there was a bulletproof vest on right, So

667
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,599
it's I just the whole thing is mind boggling to

668
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,440
me and upsetting. And then to see the Kimmel thing,

669
00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:01,400
I go, Now we're on the other side right when

670
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,000
we're silencing another voice that was giving a different opinion

671
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:06,839
and it's one that you don't agree with, so you

672
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,920
get to silence it. And that's what this, in my opinion,

673
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,800
seems to look like. The argument. It can certainly be made.

674
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,800
We're gonna lose money if he keeps saying these things.

675
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:23,679
We don't want to support it. That's a business decision.

676
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,679
But when it's the head of the FCCA didn't like

677
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,559
what was said and it was somewhat innocuous, then now

678
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:35,800
we need to we're gonna shut this this person down.

679
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,960
That's not American. It's not American. Let me know your thoughts.

680
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:44,880
I'm always always open to hearing them. You can text

681
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,719
any time. The numbers right there on the bottom of

682
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,719
the screen five eight five two of six eighty eight

683
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,440
sixty six. And you can always hit me up on

684
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,679
email as well. And I appreciate you listening, and I'd

685
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,000
love to hear people's opinions on this. But I do

686
00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:00,719
worry that this is you know, we're silencing people right

687
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:07,000
one by killing somebody and now one by a government

688
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,360
agency saying I was I didn't like the way you

689
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,880
said that. Oh that, that, to me is is not American.

690
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,039
I don't know. I don't know how you feel, but

691
00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:21,159
I'm open to the discussion and I appreciate you more

692
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:31,079
than you even know. For myself and for John Wellington,

693
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,679
the dad bod veteran, I'm the Moran. We'll see them all.

694
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:43,199
We'll see Monday. I'm atter to you, Dagnet about the

695
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,039
un of State. See they were looking borrow cadaa with

696
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:49,440
Tennessee