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Speaker 2: This hour got a special guest coming up here in
Speaker 2: a second. I want to set the stage for her.
Speaker 2: You may not know this, but I'm a prosecutor and
Speaker 2: one of the things that we prosecute are crimes against children.
Speaker 2: And some of those crimes, believe it or not, are
Speaker 2: people who rape children. And in the state of Colorado,
Speaker 2: if a person rapes a child but does it just
Speaker 2: one time, they can get probation.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's the law in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 3: But way it gets better.
Speaker 2: That fact remains true even if that rapist is in
Speaker 2: a position of trust. And when I say position of trust,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about teachers like the one that perhaps Ryan
Speaker 2: was speaking about during his show a couple hours ago.
Speaker 2: Groomers that prey upon their kids. That also applies to coaches.
Speaker 2: We've all heard those stories. Even members of clergy, parents,
Speaker 2: other family members. You can still get probation. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: You have to rape the child just the one time
Speaker 2: to get probation. If you rape the same child twice,
Speaker 2: it's called a pattern, and then you got to go
Speaker 2: to prison. But here's the deal with the law. If
Speaker 2: you rape five ten children, but you only do each
Speaker 2: one of them once, you could still technically get probation.
Speaker 2: You're probably driving around your car right now thinking that
Speaker 2: can't possibly be right. Right, Like we send child rapists
Speaker 2: to prison, we do many of the times, but that
Speaker 2: is not always the case. So we needed a champion,
Speaker 2: someone to come in and fix this ridiculous law. And
Speaker 2: there is nobody who is a bigger champion for protecting
Speaker 2: kids than a supermom herself. She's from the great Douglas
Speaker 2: County that I call home, and she's on the phone
Speaker 2: with us right now. Her name is Representative Brandy Bradley. Brandy,
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us, Thanks.
Speaker 4: Shorge, thanks for having me, and thank you for your
Speaker 4: advocacy on this. Still I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Oh listen, you did all you and Regina English, by
Speaker 2: the way, by partisan bill that you guys offered. You
Speaker 2: guys did all the heavy lifting on this, and you
Speaker 2: didn't just throw a bunch of words on paper and
Speaker 2: send it on to be voted on by the committee.
Speaker 2: You offered stakeholders an opportunity to weigh in on this effort,
Speaker 2: talk about what it took to get to the place
Speaker 2: where we had this hearing back on Wednesday, March the twelfth.
Speaker 4: Yes, we've been stakeholdering all summer long, all the way
Speaker 4: through until Wednesday. You know, it was my pre file bill,
Speaker 4: and that means you're supposed to hear it within the
Speaker 4: first forty five days of the legislative session. Unbet to me,
Speaker 4: the Democrats were playing dirty behind the scenes, filing extensions
Speaker 4: without my without me knowing that they were doing. It
Speaker 4: didn't get hard until well past the first forty five days,
Speaker 4: and they were stacking the deck with criminal defense lawyers
Speaker 4: and public defenders who testified that this is not fair
Speaker 4: to criminals to have indeterminate sentences for raping children. Just
Speaker 4: not fair.
Speaker 2: Talk about the timing of when the chairman of the
Speaker 2: Judiciary Committee, Hobby or Maybray, called this bill to be heard,
Speaker 2: because in my opinion, as the outsider guy looking at this,
Speaker 2: and I've been in the capital billion times over the
Speaker 2: last twelve fifteen years, there's something to this timing that
Speaker 2: was designed to keep the media from reporting on it.
Speaker 4: Well, sure, I mean we didn't start. Judiciary Committee started
Speaker 4: at one point thirty and you know we had a
Speaker 4: bill before.
Speaker 5: That would have had all of you guys testifying on this,
Speaker 5: and we.
Speaker 4: Wanted to make sure that the rape victims were allowed
Speaker 4: to speak. And my bill didn't even start testimony until
Speaker 4: about nine thirty that night, went until three o'clock in
Speaker 4: the morning. Some people were trying to testify at one
Speaker 4: thirty AM. And I just want a disgrace to the
Speaker 4: victims of rape in our state. It's just truly, that
Speaker 4: is the most offensive thing to me that we've done
Speaker 4: to the people of Colorado because I've been the legislator.
Speaker 2: They were successful, though, and they're successful not only in
Speaker 2: killing the bill. And we'll talk more about the substance
Speaker 2: of that hearing, because I thought it was telling, but
Speaker 2: also in keeping the media from focusing really any attention
Speaker 2: on this beyond what we could do to try to.
Speaker 3: Get attention to it.
Speaker 2: There were four bills that day, and I remember, you're right,
Speaker 2: we tried to schedule this hearing multiple times and it
Speaker 2: kept getting bumped.
Speaker 3: I remember that.
Speaker 2: But there were four bills to be heard that that afternoon,
Speaker 2: starting at one point thirty Two of the bills had
Speaker 2: ten witnesses. One bill had two witnesses. Your bill had
Speaker 2: fifty witnesses. So who do they delay until nine pm?
Speaker 2: You and the fifty witnesses like, is this normal?
Speaker 4: Well, it's normal when the Democrats don't want to have
Speaker 4: blood on their hands from children being raped in the
Speaker 4: state of Colorado. And let's talk about the media. Why
Speaker 4: didn't the media show up? We put out all kinds
Speaker 4: of editorials we put out, we did i'm announcements. I
Speaker 4: tagged them in several of my tweets. You know, they
Speaker 4: respond Kyle Clarksons to respond to my tweets. So why
Speaker 4: didn't he show up? Why did he? He said that
Speaker 4: I hypothesize about his daughter being raped when I asked
Speaker 4: him if he would want his child rapists to go
Speaker 4: to jail, and he uses terms like that. They don't
Speaker 4: want to report on the Democrats. They're three little democrats
Speaker 4: who are you know, increasing crime in our state, increasing
Speaker 4: lawlessness in our state. They want to protect them.
Speaker 2: We're talking with Douglas Counties Representative Brandy Bradley, who championed
Speaker 2: a bill along with a Democrat, by the way, Legislator
Speaker 2: Regina English from down in El Paso County.
Speaker 3: Is that right she called Roado Springs area.
Speaker 4: Yes, she is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you guys both gave impassioned testimony on behalf
Speaker 2: of this bill, and I remember listening to Representative english
Speaker 2: Is at the end too, before the actual comments by
Speaker 2: the committee members.
Speaker 3: But I got to be part of this.
Speaker 2: I got to sit in there and watch some of
Speaker 2: the hearing, but not all of the hearing. What were
Speaker 2: some of the highlight slash lowlights that you recall from that?
Speaker 4: I think there was a lot of low lights. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think the you know, not allowing victims to have
Speaker 4: their impact statement finally that have not seen their offenders
Speaker 4: go to jail and have criminal defense attorneys.
Speaker 5: Actually say that offenders.
Speaker 4: Would rather go to jail because probation is just so
Speaker 4: hard for them. You're talking about sex offenders of children.
Speaker 4: Closing statements from Democrats saying that they wouldn't wish rape
Speaker 4: on anyone, even their child rapists. They you know, because
Speaker 4: they're all victims, right, they all become victims of everything.
Speaker 4: That's what Democrats do so well, and that they wouldn't
Speaker 4: want their child rapists to be raped in jail. That's
Speaker 4: a life sentence for them. And I said, well, what
Speaker 4: about the life sentence of the child that gets raped?
Speaker 4: And one said indeterminate studencing isn't fair two people. One
Speaker 4: said that there's a higher recidivism rate if you tenancies
Speaker 4: people to longer sentences of jail, jail time. I'm just ridiculous,
Speaker 4: unfactual statements made by attorneys that are not protecting the
Speaker 4: children of Colorado. Are crime rate is suit the roof
Speaker 4: where the thirdly safe state? Where number four highest state
Speaker 4: for rape, ten highs for trafficking, eight highest for violent crime.
Speaker 4: And these soft on crime legislators continue to put the
Speaker 4: children of Colorado in unsafe situations. And it's discussed me.
Speaker 2: The comments that were made at the end, and I
Speaker 2: went back and listened to This was a long hearing, right,
Speaker 2: I listened, and I'll go ahead and say the names.
Speaker 2: I know that they're your colleagues out there, but Representative Lorena,
Speaker 2: I think it's Lorena Garcia, Is that right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: She basically gave a pitch for ending prison for any
Speaker 2: offender because she claimed that prison was torture because of
Speaker 2: the potentiality for rape within prison. And she didn't think anybody,
Speaker 2: under any circumstances she could ever vote to send them
Speaker 2: to be tortured. And I thought, so, I guess that's
Speaker 2: it not just child rape, but maybe murder, armed robbery,
Speaker 2: all these other assaults. Nobody should ever go to prison ever,
Speaker 2: because we can't have the victimizers run the risk of
Speaker 2: being victimized.
Speaker 4: Kurk, she's an abolitionist. She is going to turn victims
Speaker 4: into criminals. Essentially, she will continue.
Speaker 5: Down this role until people in Colorado wake up and
Speaker 5: get rid of these people that fill vacancies.
Speaker 4: Their progressive communists is what they are.
Speaker 2: There was a comment that I heard during the closing
Speaker 2: comments that are representatives get to talk about just how
Speaker 2: difficult this decision is. And it was the woman from
Speaker 2: Larimer and I cannot remember her last name, but at
Speaker 2: one point she says, I don't support this bill because
Speaker 2: I think it's going to cause more trials and longer
Speaker 2: trials because victims will be forced to undergo psychological exams.
Speaker 2: I went back and listened to it twice. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? I mean, you can't force
Speaker 2: a victim to get a psychological exam. And how would
Speaker 2: mandate reading prison for child rapists make trials longer than
Speaker 2: they would be already?
Speaker 3: Brandy.
Speaker 2: There were some comments during that hearing where I thought
Speaker 2: these people should not be em empowered to vote on legislation.
Speaker 2: They shouldn't be empowered to vote on anything.
Speaker 5: Well, that was a former judge, Cecilia Espinoza. I mean,
Speaker 5: most of these people are they're either judges, criminals, defense attorneys,
Speaker 5: or attorneys. So these are the people that are just
Speaker 5: ciding who gets to go to jail and who doesn't,
Speaker 5: and are deciding on public safety in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2: There was another comment. I remember Maybury doing his comments
Speaker 2: at the end of this. At the end of this
Speaker 2: and if can you stay on for another segment, by
Speaker 2: the way, Brandy, absolutely, yeah, because I want to talk
Speaker 2: to you about some other things going on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But one other comment that I'll leave before before we
Speaker 2: come back and take you, Maybury says, and I quoted
Speaker 2: him in an upcoming column in the Gazette. He says,
Speaker 2: I think that our system of sentencing is broken. I
Speaker 2: think child rapists have two short sentences in many cases,
Speaker 2: and I think the people that visit this kind of
Speaker 2: injury on kids ought to be punished.
Speaker 3: And then he also voted to kill your bill. I mean.
Speaker 2: You have to listen to it with alcohol in your
Speaker 2: hand to appreciate just how crazy this is I'm speaking
Speaker 2: with Representative Brandy Bradley.
Speaker 3: She's going to stick around for us through a break.
Speaker 2: We're going to come back talk a little bit more
Speaker 2: about this, some of the craziness from defense attorneys that
Speaker 2: testified before I did, and then we're going to get
Speaker 2: into what's going on with the rest of the legislatures.
Speaker 2: Stick around at George Brockler on The Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: It brought up Brandy Bradley because I was going to
Speaker 2: try to sing along with Journey because it's awesome, but
Speaker 2: then there's that like thirty seconds, you know, like Wayne's
Speaker 2: World stuff before you get to let's say.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about, keep going.
Speaker 2: George Brockler filling in for Dan Caplis at least until
Speaker 2: they yanked the FCC license. At the end of this segment,
Speaker 2: I am joined again by Representative Brandy Bradley from the
Speaker 2: fight in Douglas County contingent and the legislature.
Speaker 3: We're talking about.
Speaker 2: A bill that I don't know of a more common
Speaker 2: sense bill that people outside of the legislature.
Speaker 3: Would go, How can that not be the law already?
Speaker 2: And it was a bill that would have mandated prison
Speaker 2: for child rapists because they can get probation right now, Brandy,
Speaker 2: when you sat there and listened to the testimony of
Speaker 2: the defense attorneys, were you struck by the amount of
Speaker 2: empathy they seem to be trying to create.
Speaker 3: When I remember a couple of them going, you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's going to be very, very difficult to talk
Speaker 2: with these accused child rapists about the fact that they
Speaker 2: may just end up in prison if a jury convicts them.
Speaker 2: And I looked around the room, like, what about the
Speaker 2: children they rape?
Speaker 3: You know, where are we?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 4: I think it was such a slap in the face
Speaker 4: of the victims that came to testify. It made my
Speaker 4: blood boil everything. I think I had to sit on
Speaker 4: my hands and tell you the truth, George.
Speaker 3: I think that there was something.
Speaker 2: If you listen to the comments between the Democrats on
Speaker 2: the committee and the Republicans, it was so night and day.
Speaker 3: I remember Rep.
Speaker 2: Kelti said, it blows my mind that we're even having
Speaker 2: to debate this. You know, soaper comes on and says
Speaker 2: the stuff we've heard here today destroys the soul, and
Speaker 2: it just kills your soul. But something and you and
Speaker 2: I have talked about this. Something that I thought was
Speaker 2: maybe foreshadowing for the future was Jarvis Caldwell, who says
Speaker 2: at the ends of his comments, I have no doubt
Speaker 2: that if this were on the ballot, it would pass easily.
Speaker 2: And I think that's probably true.
Speaker 4: Oh, I would say this would be a ballot initiative
Speaker 4: that would pass overwhelmingly. I think the people of Colorado
Speaker 4: when I tell people this that this bill was killed
Speaker 4: Democrats and Republicans unaffiliated, they are mortified. Not when you say,
Speaker 4: not only can you rape a child once and get
Speaker 4: probation seventy percent in fact get probation, but you can
Speaker 4: rape ten children, ten different children, one time and get probation.
Speaker 4: Let that be very clear, right, you can rape ten
Speaker 4: different children one time and get probation in our state.
Speaker 4: How horrific? Where do we live that in the United
Speaker 4: States of America ten children can be raped and their
Speaker 4: offender get probation. I have no words.
Speaker 2: Here's a fitting I think conclusion of this, at least
Speaker 2: I hope, and that is there are things going on
Speaker 2: behind the scenes that I think could lead to this
Speaker 2: ending up on the ballot. The great coincidence for us is.
Speaker 2: It will be on the November twenty, twenty sixth ballot,
Speaker 2: along with every member of that Judiciary Committee who voted
Speaker 2: against it. And I just wonder if that w make
Speaker 2: it a little more awkward to pitch their constituents on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was in favor of probation for child rapists, but
Speaker 2: I'd sure love to go back to the capital.
Speaker 4: Well, I promise you I will use every penny that
Speaker 4: I have to make sure our flyers in their districts
Speaker 4: to make sure that their constituents know that when we
Speaker 4: vote for our constituents, we don't vote personally. When Lorena
Speaker 4: Garcia says I can't stand knowing that my child rapists
Speaker 4: would go to jail, maybe be you know, suffer child rape,
Speaker 4: she's voting for the eighty thousand or so people she represents.
Speaker 4: She's not voting for her personal opinion. She should ask
Speaker 4: the people that she represents how they feel about it,
Speaker 4: And I guarantee you it's a dissurface of them and
Speaker 4: they would want her voted out for that comment.
Speaker 2: You are right, they are activists, so they are not representatives. Look,
Speaker 2: in the remaining time that we have represented Bradley, what
Speaker 2: is left of this legislative session. First, when's that day
Speaker 2: that we can wake up the next morning? Go, my god,
Speaker 2: they can't do any more damage. And what do you
Speaker 2: have left to try to accomplished between now in that day?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, we forty seven more days to destroy
Speaker 4: all of their horrific policies or make them feel the
Speaker 4: worst pain that they can ever bear in their lives.
Speaker 4: Long bill's coming up. We've got a plan to You know,
Speaker 4: they don't like sitting there, George. You've seen Chad Clifford
Speaker 4: on Netflix during the gun bill. And let's talk about
Speaker 4: that for a few minutes. Rep. Morrow On something's playing
Speaker 4: around her phone.
Speaker 3: Rep.
Speaker 4: Past Will doing color by numbers. Like when we're talking
Speaker 4: about defending your Second Amendment rights, the Democrats are either
Speaker 4: not in the room or they're playing on their phone.
Speaker 4: They're not representing the people of Colorado. They're stripping your
Speaker 4: Second Amendment right to buy another gun by making you
Speaker 4: jump through eight hoops and god knows how much regulation
Speaker 4: and these on top of it, and they're watching shows
Speaker 4: on Netflix.
Speaker 3: Do we know what show that he was watching?
Speaker 4: Well, maybe he should be watching a dateline or something
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: Do you have any bills left? To go through.
Speaker 7: No, they've killed them all.
Speaker 4: They made it when I posted on my social media
Speaker 4: account the five pediatricians that say it's okay to transgender kids.
Speaker 4: They publicly setified and I made it very clear to
Speaker 4: the people of Colorado. These are these five pediatricians that
Speaker 4: say it's okay to lie to your children. They made
Speaker 4: it very clear they were going to kill my bills,
Speaker 4: and they have done so since.
Speaker 3: Look one other bill you were in there when they don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was yours, but.
Speaker 2: It was the bill that said, hey, if you've been
Speaker 2: convicted of a violent crime within the last two years
Speaker 2: and you commit another one, you can't get a PR bond.
Speaker 3: And they killed that bill too.
Speaker 2: Like what I who should not get PR bonds? Who
Speaker 2: should go to prison anymore? I mean, this is going
Speaker 2: to become escape from New York.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, George, when we are at the third
Speaker 4: lea safe stay, we had told Californias to hold our biller.
Speaker 4: We had sold New York hold our beer. We had
Speaker 4: called Illinois.
Speaker 2: Hold our beer, will show you how to ruin a
Speaker 2: state in the city represented Brandy Bradley, Thanks for giving
Speaker 2: us so much time.
Speaker 3: Great talking with you.
Speaker 2: I will talk with you again in the county when
Speaker 2: we come back. Miranda divine all about HEGSEP and signal
Speaker 2: and war plans. Oh my, George Brockler on the Dan
Speaker 2: Kapla Show.
Speaker 6: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 8: Mister President, you asked about lessons. I think there's a
Speaker 8: lot of the lessons flat of journalists in this city
Speaker 8: who have made big names for themselves making up lies
Speaker 8: about this president, whether it's the Russia hoax or making
Speaker 8: up lies about gold Star families, And this one in particular,
Speaker 8: I've never met.
Speaker 3: Don't know, never communicated with.
Speaker 8: And we are and we are looking into and reviewing
Speaker 8: how the heck.
Speaker 3: He got into this room.
Speaker 8: But I'll tell you what the world owes President Trump
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Speaker 8: months between them, are destroyers being fired upon dozens of times.
Speaker 8: President Trump took decisive back to the passion with his
Speaker 8: national security team, took out the head missile leader, knocked
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Speaker 3: And for once, as.
Speaker 8: We hear, as you all hear from every one of
Speaker 8: our allies, thank God for American leadership again.
Speaker 3: Thank God for American strength.
Speaker 2: George Brockler back with you on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 2: Unless you have come out of a coma recently or
Speaker 2: been released from a hostage situation, you know that there
Speaker 2: was some controversy that has blown up today involving the
Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, a chat on signal about
Speaker 2: some attacks in Yemen, and the unintended inclusion of a
Speaker 2: reporter in those back and forth. There's no better person
Speaker 2: to have on to help make sense of all this
Speaker 2: for us than the Great Miranda Divine. She is the
Speaker 2: author of a billion different things, including two books.
Speaker 3: You've heard of, called The Big Guy and Laptop from Hell.
Speaker 2: She has an accent that screams Biloxi, Mississippi.
Speaker 3: But she's here with us today on the Dan camplush
Speaker 3: ol Branna, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 7: I thanks, George.
Speaker 4: Great to be with you.
Speaker 2: Is it Biloxi? I think it's somewhere else. I think
Speaker 2: it's some other part of the world. Bring us up
Speaker 2: to speed. There's just been some stuff that has broken on.
Speaker 2: Laura Ingram, I know that Waltz had taken responsible. Can
Speaker 2: you bring us up to speed? What happened, and where
Speaker 2: are we with this?
Speaker 9: Well, I think that Mike Waltz appeared on Laura Ingram
Speaker 9: shown Fox just a few minutes ago, and he gave
Speaker 9: a pretty good account of himself. You know, I took
Speaker 9: responsibility so that it was a mistake. However, he still
Speaker 9: hasn't explained how it was that this rancid anti Trump
Speaker 9: journalist Jeffrey gold who works for the most hostile anti
Speaker 9: Trump rag in the country, could have possibly been on
Speaker 9: anybody's phone contact list that he could have inadvertently slipped
Speaker 9: into this signal group.
Speaker 7: I mean, it just beggars belief.
Speaker 9: And what Mike Waltz said was that he doesn't know
Speaker 9: Jeffrey Goldberg, that Jeffrey Goldberg's number was not in his phone,
Speaker 9: that it was supposed to be somebody else. And Jeffrey
Speaker 9: Goldberg did mention that there was another person with his
Speaker 9: initials JG who might have been intended to be added
Speaker 9: to the signal list, but that doesn't explain how this
Speaker 9: other person JG got to be associated with Jeffrey Goldberg.
Speaker 4: His phone number.
Speaker 9: And so what Mike Waltz has said is that Elon
Speaker 9: Musk has been brought in to do a deep dive
Speaker 9: on the tech and to get to the bottom of
Speaker 9: who actually added this guy to the group and how
Speaker 9: that phone number, if it was inadvertent, happened to get
Speaker 9: onto that person's phone or into their contact list. And
Speaker 9: now Mike Waltz said that he has full faith in
Speaker 9: the staffers that were involved, and because it wasn't all
Speaker 9: just cabinet members. There were eighteen people and half of
Speaker 9: them were staffers, So he says, an NSC staffers. Now
Speaker 9: we know that there are you know.
Speaker 7: CIA.
Speaker 9: And other Pentagon holdovers, some from the Biden There were
Speaker 9: about one hundred and fifty of them. He fired several
Speaker 9: dozen of them, which means there would be still some left.
Speaker 9: So you know, you have to be really very careful
Speaker 9: about this because you can't just write it off as
Speaker 9: a mistake and an accident and an embarrassment.
Speaker 7: Let's move on.
Speaker 9: I mean, nothing was damaged, nothing was hurt, but it
Speaker 9: just smells so much like those dirty ops that were
Speaker 9: against Donald Trump by the deep state in his first
Speaker 9: term that all of us who lived through that are
Speaker 9: utterly paranoid, and so we need to know. I think
Speaker 9: it's incumbent on Mike Waltz to let the public know
Speaker 9: who it was and how that happened. And we don't
Speaker 9: need to know what was said in the chat or
Speaker 9: anything else, but how on earth did Jeffrey Goldberg get
Speaker 9: into that chat? And Mike Well said that himself, he said,
Speaker 9: I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but of all the reporters
Speaker 9: in Washington or journalists in Washington who could have been in,
Speaker 9: he's a guy who's perpetrated the Russia hoax, who lied
Speaker 9: to the gold Star families. He's you know, the suckers
Speaker 9: and losers hoax, you name it. And he always manages
Speaker 9: to deliver these stories where they do maximum damage to
Speaker 9: Donald Trump. This time that hasn't happened. And Trump himself,
Speaker 9: you know, he was on air today when the cabinet
Speaker 9: meeting was televised forual time, and he let Mike Waltz
Speaker 9: say his piece and then he himself said he wasn't
Speaker 9: worried about it. And look, it was a very successful
Speaker 9: operation with the hoodies, and this is something that Joe
Speaker 9: Biden didn't do, and you know, the President showed strength,
Speaker 9: et cetera.
Speaker 7: That's all true, and it was a great.
Speaker 9: Operation and we shouldn't make too much of it, But
Speaker 9: it seriously can't be allowed to happen that the deep
Speaker 9: State and their sort of allies in the resistance media
Speaker 9: get to infiltrate like they have.
Speaker 2: I would like to know who the other JG was
Speaker 2: that was intended, just so that we know who was
Speaker 2: supposed to be part of this thing. I got a
Speaker 2: chance to listen into some of the hearing today by
Speaker 2: the Senate Intelligence Committee, and there was some grilling of
Speaker 2: all the people you can imagine that were there, including
Speaker 2: Tulsey Gabbard and Cash Ptael and others, and this topic
Speaker 2: came up. And as you can imagine, if you're on
Speaker 2: the far left, this was the greatest breach of security
Speaker 2: in the history of all texts. And if you're on
Speaker 2: the far right, they treated it as a little more
Speaker 2: than someone's Starbucks order, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 2: get me a VENTI? Where are we with the information?
Speaker 2: How big of a deal was this? As we try
Speaker 2: to figure out how it happened.
Speaker 9: It wasn't a big deal at all in terms of
Speaker 9: the information that was that came out. And you know,
Speaker 9: quite often journalists are given sort of heads up about,
Speaker 9: you know, if there's going to be the president going
Speaker 9: to a war zone, or if there's some military action
Speaker 9: going to happen, it's embargoed. You're not glad to say anything,
Speaker 9: but you're trusted, and so I'm not saying that Jeffrey
Speaker 9: Goldberg is a trusted person, but it's not unusual for
Speaker 9: a journalist. He says that he knew about the hood
Speaker 9: He attack two hours before it happened. I'm not sure
Speaker 9: if that would have made any difference. We don't know
Speaker 9: everything that was in that group chat, but we do
Speaker 9: know that at one point Mike Welt draws everyone's attention
Speaker 9: to I think it's called high High Up or the
Speaker 9: down low or something. It's another system where they should
Speaker 9: go and have a look at files and information that
Speaker 9: he's put there, which is the classified system. So he
Speaker 9: knew to draw a line between classified information and the conversation.
Speaker 7: That they were having on signal, which is.
Speaker 9: Convenient and is part of the normal way that they
Speaker 9: do business in the federal government these days, and certainly
Speaker 9: was during the Biden administration. Signal is now. You know,
Speaker 9: I speak to most of my sources now who are sensitive,
Speaker 9: I speak to them on signal or some other encrypted app.
Speaker 5: And signal is very convenient, and you know, it's.
Speaker 9: Much safer than having your text messages up in the
Speaker 9: cloud where Apple just hands them over willy nilly to whoever.
Speaker 7: Asks for them.
Speaker 2: I've used signal myself for the military and with some
Speaker 2: other military officers, especially when we go abroad and whatnot.
Speaker 2: It is a pretty secure method to communication. Miranda Devine,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time and listen. Do
Speaker 2: you have a big column coming out soon someplace that
Speaker 2: people ought to go to Regia.
Speaker 9: Yes, New York Post. My next column be on Thursday
Speaker 9: on the website tomorrow night, and I'm probably going to
Speaker 9: write about this topic right.
Speaker 3: On, right on.
Speaker 2: That's great, Miranda Devine, thank you for joining us here. Hey,
Speaker 2: when we come back, we're going to wrap up the show.
Speaker 2: A guy named Commissioner George teal about historic news today
Speaker 2: coming out of my county, Douglas County. Stick around at
Speaker 2: George Brockler on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: I'll be with you here until the end. Historic news
Speaker 2: coming out of my county, Douglas County, the county in
Speaker 2: the metro area. To talk about that news. One of
Speaker 2: the great commissioners. We have three of them out there.
Speaker 2: He shares the name of genius. Some of the best
Speaker 2: looking men in history.
Speaker 3: Share it. It's George Teele, commissioner. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 7: Thank you counselor for having me on. That's a great
Speaker 7: topic to talk about today.
Speaker 2: Tell me first before we get into what Douglas count
Speaker 2: what is a home rule county?
Speaker 7: Well, the home rule county is different than the ordinary
Speaker 7: county in Colorado, which is statue to our county, namely
Speaker 7: that we really have to follow state law to a
Speaker 7: tee by being home rule, while we get to chart
Speaker 7: the course on how the county is organized, how we
Speaker 7: do business in the county, and quite frankly, it gives
Speaker 7: us quite a bit of latitude in our current legislative
Speaker 7: climate in terms of what laws actually apply to us
Speaker 7: or not that are passed by the Democrats in the
Speaker 7: state legislature.
Speaker 2: Now, listen, this has been on the books forever. There
Speaker 2: are only four counties in the state that habit that
Speaker 2: are for home rule right now, Denver, Broomfield, Pittkin, And
Speaker 2: well is that right?
Speaker 7: That is correct?
Speaker 2: Why why haven't other cour Why haven't other counties done it?
Speaker 2: And how hard is it to pull this off.
Speaker 7: I think the better question is why have Why did
Speaker 7: the counties that went home rule? Why did they do it?
Speaker 7: You know, Broomfield, that's kind of an easy one. They
Speaker 7: had a community on the border between Jefferson County, Adams County,
Speaker 7: and Boulder County, and they fought like, no, we're developing
Speaker 7: into our own community. We deserve to organize as a
Speaker 7: not only a city, but as a county, breaking away
Speaker 7: from Boulder, breaking away from jeffco and Adams County. Weld County,
Speaker 7: you know, Weld County was really a case where there
Speaker 7: was a lot of doubts in the county of are
Speaker 7: the commissioners actually working in the best interests of the people.
Speaker 7: So that was kind of a case where the people
Speaker 7: got together and wrestled control of the county to create
Speaker 7: a county government that was responsive to all the needs,
Speaker 7: balanced the what was at the time the big city
Speaker 7: of Greeley against what was largely a rural county. Picking
Speaker 7: County everything I've seen, they were kind of worried about
Speaker 7: the seventy sixth Olympics coming into the area and kind
Speaker 7: of taking over their ski industry for a period of time,
Speaker 7: which I'm sure, everybody can imagine that would be a
Speaker 7: big deal in Aspen. So it was always these as
Speaker 7: Denver the very first city in county, them asserting as
Speaker 7: really the only metropolitan part of the state, the fact
Speaker 7: that they were different, they were going to be different
Speaker 7: from a largely rural, row population state that Colorado was
Speaker 7: back in the nineteen twenties. So every county that has
Speaker 7: done it has seen a reason to make the change
Speaker 7: and go through what is kind of a nine step,
Speaker 7: very extensive process to go home rule. Today, we feel
Speaker 7: like Douglas County is becoming very different than the rest
Speaker 7: of the Denver metro and how legislation at the state
Speaker 7: level is just dominated by Denver and Boulder policies that
Speaker 7: really don't pertain to us. And so we're going home
Speaker 7: rule to give ourselves more control about how government lands
Speaker 7: here in Douglas.
Speaker 2: We're talking without Douglas County Commissioner, George Teel, you're right
Speaker 2: about that, but you're also right about something else, and
Speaker 2: that is that the Denver Boulder mafia there in the
Speaker 2: legislature has also tried to whittle away more and more
Speaker 2: local control as it can. There's a bill this session
Speaker 2: to try to make it so that municipalities can't have
Speaker 2: any different penalties, any worse penalties for crimes that they
Speaker 2: determined exist than the state does. And so this seems
Speaker 2: to me to be both a defensive measure to protect
Speaker 2: Douglas County from Denver and the like, but also a
Speaker 2: proactive measure to do things that we just think fit
Speaker 2: our careymore, what are some of those things you think
Speaker 2: we'll be able to accomplish as a home rule county.
Speaker 7: Well, public safety. Public safety is a really great example
Speaker 7: right now the sheriffs. Where as an oath, just like
Speaker 7: in my colleagues as commissioners did to defend the United
Speaker 7: States Constitution and the Colorado Constitution and then enforce Colorade
Speaker 7: of law. In home rule, our sheriff is going to
Speaker 7: be empowered to not only defend the United States Constitution
Speaker 7: and the state Constitution, but the charter of Douglas County.
Speaker 7: In Douglas County, Kellig Frankly, one of the things we're
Speaker 7: looking to put in is we can cooperate with Ice
Speaker 7: when it comes to immigration issues. And so this crime
Speaker 7: wave from Trendiagua that we've seen that you know, the
Speaker 7: liberal sitys all our conservative imagination. But now we're seeing
Speaker 7: actual convictions, actual charges from these really not just illegal immigrants,
Speaker 7: but criminal immigrants that have infiltrated into the Denver metro.
Speaker 7: Give us the opportunity to do that cooperation with ICE,
Speaker 7: do that cooperation with federal authorities, and enforce our immigration laws.
Speaker 7: Quite frankly, what.
Speaker 2: About Second Amendment stuff? I know that came up today
Speaker 2: at the press conference.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really a poeporie of all these different gun
Speaker 7: control laws that the state has enacted. You know, some
Speaker 7: of them did not engage the magic phrase of that
Speaker 7: they were written for statewide concern. The easy interpretation is, well,
Speaker 7: then those don't apply to home world communities, home world
Speaker 7: counties specifically. And even if the state says no, this
Speaker 7: is something that is of state concern, well no, that's
Speaker 7: not how it's written in the enabling legislation. We can
Speaker 7: challenge the state. Now. One of the difficulties we've had
Speaker 7: challenging the state and court is that the court determines, hey,
Speaker 7: Dougos County atually an agency of the State of Colorado,
Speaker 7: you do not have standing right now as a home
Speaker 7: rural county. We will have no.
Speaker 3: But that sounds so good.
Speaker 2: To me, and I was going to say, Commissioners TiAl,
Speaker 2: sorry to interrupt you with a runner out of ten,
Speaker 2: but I was going to say, if you pull this off,
Speaker 2: and I think you will, and I'm part of this
Speaker 2: process at a different level too. I see this being
Speaker 2: the toothpaste out of the tube.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I see a bunch of other counties across the state
Speaker 2: saying me too, me too. Thank you guys for the
Speaker 2: leadership on this, and I know we'll talk about more
Speaker 2: about it on the radio.
Speaker 3: George Teal, thank you so much, my man.
Speaker 7: No problem, Thank you, counselor appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Hey, that is it.
Speaker 6: Two hours just flew by.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow Dan will be back
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