1 00:00:03,839 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks. Here 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:14,560 Shit Cues, your source of information and analysis to help 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,199 you win your fantasy hockey league. 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: Block off hot A, step hit on, Stay Lock. 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse Severe and Victor Nuno. 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: Mabasy Hockey Live. We're back. I'm Jesse Severe, Pain Tracks. 7 00:00:29,239 --> 00:00:32,119 That is Victor Nuno of E P Rings side Victor. 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:32,679 How you doing. 9 00:00:33,759 --> 00:00:36,679 Speaker 4: I'm doing awesome, Jesse. It's going to be back again together. 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,280 It hasn't happened as often as I would have liked 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,679 most recently, but it's going to be back. And yeah, 12 00:00:41,679 --> 00:00:44,640 we got some really fun stuff to talk about today. 13 00:00:44,759 --> 00:00:47,359 Looking forward to it. How are you doing, I'm doing good. 14 00:00:47,399 --> 00:00:49,679 Speaker 3: I'm doing good. We're back in the bread and butter, 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,759 the meat and potatoes, the the Brussels sprouts and bacon, 16 00:00:54,439 --> 00:00:58,000 of our of our content. Here. We're into Scouting reports, 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,159 into Scouts Tout. We got a lot of our favorite 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,120 Scouts listeners who are coming in and giving us the 19 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:08,480 straight skinny from watching a lot of film. That's something 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,680 you're not necessarily going to get just everywhere. But also 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,079 the Victor, the one Victor is going to be here 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:20,319 to give us takes on these players as well, Victor, 23 00:01:21,079 --> 00:01:24,239 times are good. All people have to do to participate 24 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,719 in the good times the Roaring twenties is to join 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,680 our Fantasy Hockey Life discord, and they can do that 26 00:01:31,239 --> 00:01:34,760 by hitting us up Fantasy Hockey Life at gmail dot com. 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,879 Fan Hockey Life for Me and Victor Newno. Twelve for 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,040 Victor on x Or on Blue Sky, Jesse Severe will 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,599 find Jim and the one Victor will find you. Victor. 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,079 That's with the number one always a number one somewhere 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,000 in the Victor social media handles, I find Victor. Are 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,120 you do you when you play hockey? Do you wear 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,799 number one? That's what I want to know. 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: No, actually, I for a long time I were number twelve, 35 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,079 and then I decided to wear more of a number 36 00:02:05,319 --> 00:02:07,560 like the position that I play, which is left handed 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,520 left B. And I decided that I would go with 38 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,199 Quinn Hughes forty three, mainly because I look like his 39 00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:17,800 game how he reads it. Certainly nowhere near is good. 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,560 But I am a undersized left handed D with not 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,439 a very good point shot, so I figure the similarities 42 00:02:24,479 --> 00:02:25,319 were good enough. 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This is even 81 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,680 a we've done this before, but not probably to this degree. 82 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,079 And segment one is going to be a scouting reporter, 83 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:37,360 some Scout tout reports on some prospects who have already 84 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:42,399 been drafted. The first one is Nikita r. Tomanov, who 85 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,000 is a Carolina Hurricanes prospect. And we're going to actually 86 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,920 kicked to a little bit of audio that you did 87 00:04:49,959 --> 00:04:53,319 with our scout. So right here, folks, listen to. 88 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:57,079 Speaker 4: Patrick and now here to talk. Nikita Artamanov is our 89 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,600 fel Scott scout. Patrick, Patrick, tell us how you would 90 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:04,199 describe Artamanov if you could have to do so in 91 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,040 just about ten words. 92 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,399 Speaker 5: I would say Artamanov is a player with the high 93 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:15,959 motor and a hockey IQ who will go to dangerous 94 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:18,759 places to score like that. 95 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: Sometimes when you hear high motor, you might think low 96 00:05:22,199 --> 00:05:25,680 end skill, but it's it's pretty special to have a 97 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,040 little bit of both. What do you think his best 98 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:29,000 attributes are. 99 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:33,319 Speaker 5: I think he's got a very hockey IQ. He's very smart, 100 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,600 and I think he reads and sees the play very well, 101 00:05:37,399 --> 00:05:42,439 and that along with the high motor allows him to 102 00:05:42,519 --> 00:05:48,240 just do so much that just is great to see. 103 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,040 It's fun to watch. 104 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 4: Nice. What do you think he needs to work the 105 00:05:54,079 --> 00:05:56,680 most on or what is his biggest concern. 106 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 5: I do think that he might not be the most 107 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,079 dyna and he might not and he doesn't have the 108 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,360 highest end skill, so that's a little bit of a concern. 109 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,360 And maybe I didn't see a lot of shooting from distance. 110 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:12,160 He was all in close. That could be a bit 111 00:06:12,199 --> 00:06:14,879 of a concern. But if you're going to live in 112 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,079 the paint and be able to be successful there, maybe 113 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:19,399 that's not too much of a concern. 114 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, And his production this year putting some of 115 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,120 those concerns maybe to rest. But what do you think? 116 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,439 I know it's always hard, but what do you think 117 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,720 of a stylistic comparable for a Tamanov? 118 00:06:34,879 --> 00:06:40,519 Speaker 5: So when I was looking at him, I think maybe 119 00:06:41,439 --> 00:06:45,560 possibly Nick Schmaltz. I don't know if that's the best comparable, 120 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,560 but that's the best one that I came up with, 121 00:06:47,959 --> 00:06:51,920 although I do think he's going to have better points 122 00:06:51,959 --> 00:06:55,480 and more blocks and more shots than Schmaltz. Definitely, I 123 00:06:55,519 --> 00:06:58,600 think he's gonna have more shots than Nick Schmaltz. But 124 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:05,399 I think with him not being overly dynamic and having 125 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,199 average or slightly above average skating, I guess that's where 126 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:14,000 some of the I thought the comparables come in nice okay? 127 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 4: And what do you think the realistic outcome for our Tamanopiz? 128 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Do you think he's destined to be like a top 129 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,680 liner top six, maybe middle six or heaven forbid, bottom six. 130 00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:30,639 Speaker 5: I was just very impressed by how well he's playing 131 00:07:30,959 --> 00:07:35,800 as an eighteen year old in the KHL, so I 132 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:40,399 think while he might not be good enough for line one, 133 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:43,040 he might get on power play one and be a 134 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,519 high end second liner. And I guess a final thought 135 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:50,600 is I put in there was that I think that 136 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:54,079 his play style, if he gets to the NHL somewhat 137 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,439 soon within the next couple of years, and they still 138 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,560 have the same place system that they have going in 139 00:07:59,639 --> 00:08:05,600 place in Carolina, that he could definitely find himself, endear 140 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,560 himself pretty easily to rob randomore and have success. 141 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:14,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's definitely a good point. It's always hard because 142 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:16,000 you don't know if the system is going to be 143 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,879 the same when he gets there, but it seems like 144 00:08:18,959 --> 00:08:20,959 he's the kind of player that the coaches would like 145 00:08:21,519 --> 00:08:22,519 even in other systems. 146 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 5: Anythink I do think so, because I didn't mention this earlier, 147 00:08:28,519 --> 00:08:31,920 but I mean, he definitely has that high end motor 148 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,679 and he's not just all offense. He does get back 149 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,679 on defense as well. That's definitely a strength that would 150 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:40,559 endear him. 151 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,759 Speaker 4: Awesome. That's good to hear. Thanks so much for sharing 152 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:45,480 your thoughts on our tomano of Patrick. 153 00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 5: You're welcome, Thanks for having me. 154 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 3: Really cool Patrick coming on to give us the take Victor. 155 00:08:53,879 --> 00:08:56,559 I gotta say, when did we start getting multiple teenagers 156 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,000 getting huge run in the KHL. I thought that was 157 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:00,960 not supposed to be a thing anymore, but it seems 158 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,120 to be happening from time to time. Now Torpedo is 159 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,480 not at the top of the standings, but Ar Tomanov 160 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,080 is at the top of the team scoring. I would 161 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,159 take a Nick Schmaltz on my team, which is a 162 00:09:11,159 --> 00:09:13,559 guy Patrick is comparing him to. I don't know how 163 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,759 fired up i'd be about a Nick Schmaltz type on 164 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,440 the Hurricanes who could be crazy deep. But do you 165 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,720 see this kind of same combo of skating and smarts 166 00:09:21,759 --> 00:09:23,919 from this guy? Is our scout is looking at. 167 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I think that he's He's been really impressive. 168 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,480 He was impressive last year. Everyone at the draft was 169 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:34,679 calling our Tomanov or our Tomanov. I'm not sure how 170 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,000 to say it. And one of the steals of the draft. 171 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,159 I feel like people say that every year with Carolina, 172 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,159 and it often does work out, sometimes it doesn't, but 173 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,919 they definitely take high value guys and guys who can 174 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,840 they can take another step or have some good underlying numbers, 175 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:53,639 and yeah, Torpedo is one of those teams that doesn't 176 00:09:53,879 --> 00:09:56,159 seem to punish their young kids as much as some 177 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,720 of the other ones. They seem to not be as 178 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,559 worried about some of those things about losing them. But yeah, 179 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,679 he's been taking a huge step this year, and I 180 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,200 do definitely think that he's all that that Patrick was 181 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,879 talking about. In fact, you know, I think a lot 182 00:10:07,919 --> 00:10:09,840 of times, which is true with a lot of scouts, 183 00:10:09,879 --> 00:10:12,200 when they spend a little bit more time watching these guys, 184 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,279 they tend to be a little bit conservative, which I 185 00:10:14,279 --> 00:10:16,399 think is good. You never want to go too crazy 186 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,879 with your evaluation. But I think I'm more excited than 187 00:10:19,039 --> 00:10:22,480 what I heard from Patrick about our Tomanov. And yeah, 188 00:10:22,519 --> 00:10:26,120 I think that he certainly, he certainly could be that exciting. 189 00:10:26,159 --> 00:10:28,960 So yeah, I'm pretty happy to see what he's done 190 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:29,360 so far. 191 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,279 Speaker 3: Victor. I got to gauge your excitement. I got to 192 00:10:32,279 --> 00:10:35,600 push that excitement. What is the points in bash upside? 193 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:39,200 Where do you see this guy landing potentially in the NHL. 194 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that he's really I have him ranked 195 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,080 on my and we just did this big update for 196 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,720 the twenty twenty five Prospect Cars and so I had 197 00:10:49,759 --> 00:10:52,240 to really think about that, and I had our Tomanov 198 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:55,000 a little bit a little bit lower, and I mainly 199 00:10:55,039 --> 00:10:59,440 increased his percent of reaching the seventieth percentile, which is 200 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,399 what I have him, which you could interpret as a 201 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,720 seventy ish point pace. I think there are the things 202 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,120 that go into that, and including what his bash could be, 203 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,759 which is pretty decent. He's got pretty good hits and 204 00:11:08,759 --> 00:11:12,919 shots and blocks, and so overall he should be have 205 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,519 a pretty high floor and then also have pretty good 206 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,600 scoring ability. So I think he's probably in that sixty 207 00:11:19,639 --> 00:11:21,600 to seventy ish point range, and then there may be 208 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:24,000 even upside for more. I try not to think about 209 00:11:24,039 --> 00:11:25,759 the fact that he's on the Canes and maybe just 210 00:11:25,799 --> 00:11:27,879 push down the lineup and not have a prominent role, 211 00:11:27,919 --> 00:11:30,200 because as we've seen with a lot of other situations, 212 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,240 he could be moved to another team, and he's good 213 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,320 enough that he could instantly be a top three prospect 214 00:11:36,399 --> 00:11:39,120 on a few other teams in the league that have 215 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,120 worse pools, so that that could happen, and the Canes 216 00:11:42,159 --> 00:11:43,720 have been done to do that to get help now, 217 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:46,960 so I think that he definitely has that upside. I'm 218 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,240 not sure that he has quite the upside that he's 219 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,639 looking at in some of the analytical models where it 220 00:11:51,639 --> 00:11:54,799 looks like he could be super star potential. But I 221 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,799 definitely think it's pretty high and it's all coming up 222 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,639 roses right now to see if he can continue his 223 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,600 toward pace. Twenty four point some thirty four k to 224 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:03,080 games is pretty outstanding. 225 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: Let's look at the Mason Black NHL Rankking Pole. He 226 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,519 puts them out there for the people to get their say. 227 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,399 In Nikita here Ur Tomanov our Tomanov is up against 228 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:21,440 Jagar Furkus of the Seattle Kraken, longtime friend of the show, 229 00:12:21,799 --> 00:12:23,919 or a guy that we're always seemed to be talking 230 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,960 about as one of those sleepers, and nikid Ar Tomanov 231 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,519 is coming out way ahead of Furcus sixty seven to 232 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,600 thirty three percent. Nobody likes the smaller Furcus always not 233 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,320 that much smaller actually, and he's about a year older, 234 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,720 but not with the same not with the same probabilities. 235 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,720 Like you say that, I think that some of these 236 00:12:45,759 --> 00:12:49,960 models absolutely love a young guy going off in the KHL. 237 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,080 It's got to be it, because we already know that 238 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,639 some of the models love it when these guys put 239 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,200 up the stats and even the MHL. We've talked about 240 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,440 that before on the show. But he's coming out way 241 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,200 above what Fercus is able to do up in Canada. Yeah, 242 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:05,679 still in canneries in the EHL this year, I can't 243 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,360 quite tell. But anyway, let's let's think, what do you 244 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,440 think of this comparison, Victor, between Nikid art Tamanov and 245 00:13:14,399 --> 00:13:15,080 Jegger Fercus. 246 00:13:16,279 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that I would probably go with Artamanov, 247 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,720 and I think that I agree with you. I think 248 00:13:22,759 --> 00:13:26,759 that most of the time you see the professional young kids, 249 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,720 young hockey players in the professional hockey leagues tend to 250 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,000 get a little bit of a boost, and I think 251 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,600 it's pretty warranted. I think that's reasonable. I think his 252 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,519 upside is more based on that he's playing professional hockey 253 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:41,919 at a younger age. He's beating professional players more consistently. 254 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,919 That doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be better than Fergus, 255 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,639 but I like that the trajectory is where it is 256 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,759 at this stage. And yeah, you're right, they are the 257 00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:53,919 same height. Although our Tamanov is like thirty pounds heavier 258 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,639 than Fercus and only a year younger, there's a little 259 00:13:56,639 --> 00:13:58,600 bit more girth there. He might be a little bit 260 00:13:58,639 --> 00:14:01,519 harder to move off pucks and have a little bit 261 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,360 more staying power in the NHL because of that. But 262 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,440 I think that I'm more excited just because of the 263 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,360 strong production at a little bit of younger age. I 264 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,720 still like Fercus though, And if you are in a 265 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,559 league where you want someone who's ready to contribute, like 266 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,639 right away, because Fergus is playing for Coachella Valley right 267 00:14:19,639 --> 00:14:24,080 now in the AHL, and so's he's doing well. Thirteen 268 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,440 points in twenty games. It's not blowing the doors down, 269 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,159 but it's really it's good. It's really good, and he's 270 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,320 continuing to progress and that we said that this is 271 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,840 an important step for him after just tearing apart at 272 00:14:34,879 --> 00:14:39,080 the WHL last year, and I think that he's showing 273 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,639 that he can translate this to the AHL, at least 274 00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:44,240 at a twenty game sample size. So we'll see if 275 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,200 that can continue. But if you want someone who you 276 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,120 know is really close and could step into your lineup 277 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,320 as early as this year, most likely next year, then 278 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:52,320 Fercus make it a little bit of a bump. Because 279 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,120 even though our Tomanov has been in the KHL for 280 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:57,440 two years, he's probably got two or three more years 281 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,200 until he's realistically ready to play the NHL in terms 282 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,720 of a role with the Canes are potentially getting a trade, 283 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:06,679 so that might factor into it for you. But in 284 00:15:06,759 --> 00:15:09,279 terms of pure upside, I'm definitely liking our Tamanov more. 285 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,879 His trajectory is more linear upwards. Looking at some of 286 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:15,879 the comps here in the pnhle model with Mason Kyle 287 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,000 Connor is one that I think is probably reasonable. There's 288 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,919 an Getting Maulkin one. I don't think that one is 289 00:15:21,919 --> 00:15:26,240 certainly not Stylistically Alexi Hipponiami that one didn't quite work out, 290 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:28,320 so he got a wide range there from Hall of 291 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,799 Famer to NHL Superstar too didn't work out at all, 292 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,759 which certainly is a range of where Tamanov falls in. 293 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,399 But that also isn't a very helpful range because it's 294 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:41,240 very wide. But as I mentioned earlier, I think he's 295 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,000 I don't think he's quite the one hundred point superstar 296 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:47,399 PNHL guy, at least that he's looking at right now. 297 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,840 I think he's probably closer to the seventy ish point 298 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,840 guy that I think that he can hit right now, 299 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,679 which is also quite a bit higher than what Fergus 300 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,600 says Fergus looks like he's taking a big hit this year, 301 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:01,720 but that's also because he's jumped to the AHL where 302 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:04,360 things are a lot harder. So his panchili went from 303 00:16:04,399 --> 00:16:07,600 like eighty four down to fifty four, but it's probably 304 00:16:07,639 --> 00:16:10,960 not that big of a dive. He certainly still has 305 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,799 sixty seventy ish point potential. I was looking at the 306 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,759 prospect cards that we just updated the brand and just updated, 307 00:16:17,799 --> 00:16:20,679 and they look very different and cool. He added some 308 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,120 stuff in terms of like play driving, in terms of 309 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:25,879 tidy points, if that's something that you want to be 310 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:29,639 looking at, and really cool color bars that show you 311 00:16:30,159 --> 00:16:34,960 how far above or below the standard deviation they are 312 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,279 for each category, and that's really cool to look at. 313 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:38,960 And so when you look at our Tamanov here, you 314 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,000 can see that he is scoring really well for the league, 315 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,840 and he's got good points. His shots are sixtieth percentile, 316 00:16:46,879 --> 00:16:49,159 his hits are eightieth, and his blocks are our fiftieth, 317 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,320 so he's got some pretty good bash and he's getting 318 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,320 some pretty good power play time. And then looking at 319 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,320 his play driving, it's a little bit average. It could 320 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,320 be a little bit better, but overall he should be 321 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,079 pretty well above average. In terms of tidy fantasy points, 322 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:07,799 and so that's good to look at. And Fercus still 323 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,279 it's nice to see the updated card for his AHL 324 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,559 time because he was someone that was always a big shooter. 325 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,599 Interesting to see that as a smaller guy, he has 326 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,640 been hitting quite a lot in the AHL, so that's 327 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,680 nice to see. That helps his peripheral floor and his 328 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,279 shots still have been really good. So I still think 329 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,599 that things are positive for both of these guys, but 330 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,839 I think the upside for me is higher with Artamanov 331 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,920 if he wants someone ready sooner than Fergus is reasonable. 332 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,920 I don't think this is so disparate Jesse. It was 333 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,599 a little bit more one sided in terms of the 334 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,440 VAN votes, which I understand, but I think that it 335 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,359 probably should be a little bit closer than that victor. 336 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: Next up, we're going to talk Montreal Canadians and Michael Hage. Tony, 337 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:51,279 one of our lead scouts is the scout of the 338 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,960 day on this one, and Hage is a Centerman. His 339 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,519 skating can be dynamic. He has speed and also want 340 00:17:57,559 --> 00:17:59,799 to cut in to get a chance off the rush, 341 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,400 and handling well above average ability to find open teammates 342 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,599 and move puckside to get around defenders and get a 343 00:18:06,599 --> 00:18:11,480 shot off. The shooting excellent, quick, accurate, lethal, says Tony. 344 00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:13,799 Doesn't take long to get the shot away and he 345 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,920 usually finds the net. The IQ. Hage's vision and anticipation 346 00:18:19,079 --> 00:18:21,680 is very good on the offensive side of the game. 347 00:18:21,759 --> 00:18:25,039 Defensive side is a little bit lacking, though again the 348 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:28,240 poise is better in the offensive zone. Defensive zone was 349 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:33,240 sometimes an adventure for checking. Tony did witness some for checking, 350 00:18:33,279 --> 00:18:36,079 but thinks it's still an area that Hage will need 351 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,000 to work on. Defense. Like most players at this stage, 352 00:18:39,079 --> 00:18:43,160 defense is a secondary trait. There's more stick work and 353 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,720 not a lot of body checking or good positional play. 354 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,240 So the best asset the shot, says Tony, far and 355 00:18:49,279 --> 00:18:52,839 away the best asset. It's hard, deceptive, and accurate. The 356 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,240 biggest concern a little shy about contact, the little lacking 357 00:18:57,279 --> 00:19:00,400 in the defensive game. Probably not a lot of bash, 358 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,720 according to Tony, but the top tier could be a 359 00:19:03,759 --> 00:19:06,559 tier one just because of that shot. The offense could 360 00:19:06,559 --> 00:19:09,240 see a top six roll with number one power play, 361 00:19:10,079 --> 00:19:12,720 and that's because of the shot the vision to get 362 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:17,440 to that top offensive game. His fiftieth percentile outcome Tier 363 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,599 three third or fourth liner spot duty on a second 364 00:19:20,759 --> 00:19:24,839 power play. That would be where his shot gives him 365 00:19:24,839 --> 00:19:26,559 a chance to make it to the second power play, 366 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:29,039 but without the bash and more work on the defensive side, 367 00:19:29,079 --> 00:19:34,640 probably minimal ice time. Stylistic comparable, he reminds Tony of 368 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,720 Quintin Byfield and the Scouts final thoughts and additional Scout 369 00:19:38,759 --> 00:19:41,880 additional stats. Hage could be a top tier player as 370 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,279 far as offense is concerned, but he's going to need 371 00:19:44,279 --> 00:19:45,920 to work in his own zone to be an all 372 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,079 around player. Tony is not prone to hyperbole, Victor, and 373 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,599 he's somewhat close to the action when you're talking Michigan Wolverines, 374 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,599 because he's up there watching Michigan. I think from time 375 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,759 to time he drops the holy name of Buyfield in 376 00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:02,759 his report, Victor, which I know is meaningful to you. 377 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:05,559 I wonder if Tony means the byfield we dream on 378 00:20:05,799 --> 00:20:08,599 or the byfield that we've gotten so far in the NHL. 379 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,440 I don't know. But still, where do you see the 380 00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:12,200 upside here? 381 00:20:13,319 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think that he's certainly not as big as Buyfield. 382 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,200 He's only six to one and Byfield six ' five, 383 00:20:20,279 --> 00:20:24,640 so that the frame is different and certainly the appeal 384 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,680 of what he could be at the same age with 385 00:20:27,759 --> 00:20:31,319 Buyfield being a little bit raw but showing so much skill, 386 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,559 and I think that with the frame and the trajectory 387 00:20:35,599 --> 00:20:38,440 there was so much to be excited about with Buyfield. 388 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,920 I think that it's a little bit different with age, 389 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:43,640 not that it's not that it's bad by any means, 390 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,759 but I'm not sure it's quite the same thing in 391 00:20:46,839 --> 00:20:51,359 terms of the trajectory and projection. But he is really exciting. 392 00:20:51,599 --> 00:20:55,680 He is. He was great in the USHL last year, 393 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,599 and people probably heard about the difficulty he had, not 394 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,759 only with draft season being difficult, but losing his father 395 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,559 the summer before that, and so there was a lot 396 00:21:05,559 --> 00:21:09,160 of trauma that happened. But he was able to not 397 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,880 only survive that but actually thrive and look pretty stellar 398 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,960 doing it in this season, taking a huge step at 399 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,160 Michigan thirteen points in or sorry, seventeen points in thirteen games. 400 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,640 He looks fantastic, does Hage, And so I think that 401 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,279 the upside is there. I'm not so sure about the prototype, 402 00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:30,920 but certainly a high scoring center is someone that he 403 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:33,200 certainly does look like. Maybe some of the concerns that 404 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,000 twenty pointed out it need to be rounded out, but 405 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,720 that's one thing the college game is really good for, 406 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,319 so I have confidence that he'll come around with that. Yeah, 407 00:21:41,319 --> 00:21:44,480 He's been definitely one of the biggest movers and jumpers 408 00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:46,880 in the draft plus one season, so Hages is certainly 409 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,799 someone to be excited about. So yeah, I'm definitely right there. 410 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 3: Mason Black, the NHL Ranking put up the poll Hage 411 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,599 versus Calum Ritchie, who's already been all the way to 412 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,240 the National Hockey League Draft one year earlier, out of 413 00:22:01,279 --> 00:22:05,519 the Oshawa Generals, and the people have spoken. In two 414 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,359 hundred votes, Michael Hage defeats Callum Richie once again. We 415 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,880 got a pretty lopsided result, sixty three to thirty seven 416 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,759 percent victor. Is that the way you would stack these 417 00:22:15,759 --> 00:22:16,200 two up. 418 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 4: I'm not sure that I would. It would be so 419 00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:24,559 lopsided for me either. I certainly understand the excitement. As 420 00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:27,480 I mentioned, Hage just looking really great this year. I 421 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,599 think a lot of times people are often a little 422 00:22:30,599 --> 00:22:34,000 bit influenced by a recency bias, and he certainly has that. 423 00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:37,920 He has been looking great. He had a game a 424 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,640 couple of weeks ago where I think he had multiple goals. 425 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:43,279 It was a multiple point night. He's had a couple 426 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,880 of those. It's been pretty exciting. There's been a lot 427 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,240 of a lot of headlines for that and Richie, I 428 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,759 think he hasn't maybe been as exciting in terms of 429 00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:55,200 some of the things that he's been doing. But I 430 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,240 thought it was pretty impressive that he made the Avs. 431 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,119 And and sure the Avs were injured and had some 432 00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:03,920 need for some bodies, and so maybe you could say 433 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,759 they're a little bit more desperate for different players, But 434 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,799 I think that he earned his way onto that team. 435 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,759 He looked not completely out of place at times. Sometimes 436 00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:15,599 he did, and he certainly had some work to do, 437 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,759 and that's what he's done. He's gone back to Oshaua 438 00:23:17,839 --> 00:23:19,640 and he has thirty four points in eighteen games. He 439 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,920 looks fantastic. So I'm not sure that there's really any 440 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,839 reason to be not excited about calam Ritchie. I think 441 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:27,960 this is a little bit closer here. Part of it 442 00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:30,759 might come down to you positional. I think that Richie 443 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:33,440 can play the center of the ice. I think that 444 00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:36,960 Age can as well, so that might matter if one 445 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,119 of them slides to the wing. Is a little bit 446 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,759 more availability to get a top line or top six 447 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,240 minutes and potential power play time. So I think that 448 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,759 I think they're actually pretty similar, and I think at 449 00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:53,119 this point I would probably still go Richie just because 450 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,200 I like his I've liked his trajectory since his injury. 451 00:23:57,279 --> 00:23:59,640 I get the excitement for Hage and he is a 452 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,599 little farther away. But I'm still gonna stick with Richie 453 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,720 because i like his trajectory a little bit more. But 454 00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:06,319 I think these two are really close, and it might 455 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,400 depend a little bit more on what you want and 456 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,279 what the pipeline looks like as they get a little 457 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:13,880 bit closer. And because Richie is so closer and shown 458 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,480 that he can at least hang somewhat at the NHL level, 459 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,039 I'm probably gonna go there. In my ranks for these guys, 460 00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:24,039 I have them at a six point seventy five for 461 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,200 Richie and a six point seven eight, So that's a 462 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,720 seventy eight percent chance of being a six out of ten. 463 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:30,559 So they're both a little bit on the lower side, 464 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:33,079 but they're really right next to each other essentially, So 465 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:35,839 there's some nuanced difference of who you might like, who 466 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,680 shoots more, who has maybe a little bit more bashed, 467 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,960 which for now certainly looks like that is Richie, and 468 00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:45,079 so I like that floor a little bit more and 469 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:48,480 the trajectory looks better right now for Hage in terms 470 00:24:48,519 --> 00:24:51,680 of the PNHL, But that took a big hit for 471 00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:54,039 Richie because he was in the NHL and so he 472 00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:57,480 was up a little bit higher before that. And the 473 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,119 hockey prospecting between the two is actually pretty similar. Even 474 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,440 though Hages having a great D plus one season, his 475 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,480 star potential actually win down just a little bit, just 476 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,839 because you need a bigger bump than that, and Richie's 477 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,240 is basically they're basically ties sixteen percent and nineteen percent, 478 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,920 sixteen for Richie and nineteen for Hahe. So they're really 479 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,039 close to one another. So yeah, that's why I think Jesse, 480 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:20,920 they're a little bit closer than that pole would suggest, 481 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,880 but I would lean Richie. 482 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:28,799 Speaker 3: Still moving on, we got Oliver Bonk, the Philadelphia Flyers defenseman. 483 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,559 Grant is the scout on the scene, and here's what 484 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:35,640 he has to say. Skating. Skating is not a strength 485 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,799 of Bonks. He has a fairly slow first few strides 486 00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:41,599 and rarely gets up to top speed. Might be considered 487 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,880 average or just slightly below but overall a below average 488 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,799 skater per Grant in terms of passing, good hands with 489 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,279 the puck, can stick handle the puck out of trouble 490 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,000 like most players. He needs to work on taking passes 491 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,839 along the wall on his backhand a little more cleanly, 492 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,640 passes the pup ice very well, passes possessed the right 493 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,079 amount of pays for the situation more often than not. 494 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,880 It's a strength shooting. Most of the bunk shots are getting 495 00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:12,279 from the blue line. It's got a nice quick snapshot 496 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:14,319 he can get on net. Does have a good risk 497 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,799 shot he can display on the power play in the 498 00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:21,119 ohl at least the IQ. Excellent passing vision, but can 499 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,319 have a bit of tunnel vision without the puck. He 500 00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:27,519 makes up for his skating with above average anticipation, tries 501 00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:30,000 to put himself in spots where he won't be beaten. 502 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:33,880 That is good for the level he's at now in 503 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,200 terms of panic and poise, but he's gonna have to 504 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,279 speed his game up when he gets to the professional levels. 505 00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:42,559 He rarely engages in board battles and for checking. He's 506 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:44,720 going to need to improve this area of his game 507 00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:50,200 as he rises up the ranks. Defense he's better than 508 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,599 he thought at one on one. At first, Marsham beat 509 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,759 him in one of the games he watched, but Marsham 510 00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:57,720 beats a lot of defenders. Has a lot of things 511 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,160 to improve on to succeed at the AHL level, and 512 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,920 then NHL needs to improve his pinches, give his defensive 513 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,640 partner better passing options in banks. Best asset has to 514 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,400 be his ability to pass up past the puck, up 515 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,920 the ice, find open teammates in all three zones. He 516 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,200 doesn't waste pass attempts that don't connect. The biggest concern 517 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:22,279 is the offense, and Grant's just not sure he's going 518 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:25,279 to generate the offense like he does in the OHL. 519 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,400 He did play on the power player, didn't play the 520 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,799 point on the power play with the London Knights, but 521 00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:33,200 he plays the bumper actually parked in front of the net. 522 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,519 That might explain those twenty four goals that he had 523 00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:37,799 last year. It's not going to get that opportunity at 524 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:41,039 higher levels and so the top tier outcome top four 525 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,599 second power play the justification he manages the puck well, 526 00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:48,480 it's got the ability to distribute the puck. He could 527 00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:51,920 be a steady defender with puck moving ability given time. 528 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,559 The median outcome seventh defender AHL top four. If he 529 00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:58,440 doesn't produce points to the pro level he's going to 530 00:27:58,519 --> 00:27:59,920 get to, he's going to have to be a lot 531 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:04,279 better defensively to make up for it. He's going to 532 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,599 get some opportunities as a first round pick, but he 533 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,759 might struggle to make that transition and the stylistic comparable 534 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,279 Justin Hole or Cody Cci. Overall, Grant his scouting has 535 00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:19,440 actually diminished. Expectations season ceiling more like fifteen to twenty 536 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,279 five points, fifty hits, one hundred blocks. This guy's a 537 00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:25,480 dilemma of Victor. I recall post draft we weren't all 538 00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:27,160 that high on him, but by the end of the 539 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,240 D plus one those goals that Grant referred to got 540 00:28:31,319 --> 00:28:34,400 him up the ranks and offensive circles. But boy, Grant 541 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,759 is sure not high on him here like I thought 542 00:28:36,759 --> 00:28:40,440 we were starting to be. Do you agree with the 543 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,279 helium that Bonk was maybe getting a little bit last 544 00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:46,519 year or Grant's cold water on the helium? Can you 545 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,079 douse helium with cold water? I don't know, Victor. 546 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: You tell me one's a gas, one's a liquid. I'm 547 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,640 not sure it would work out exactly. 548 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,359 Speaker 3: I'm not a physicist, Victor, I'm not a physicist. 549 00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 4: Let's call Nail the grass Tyson and see what he thinks. 550 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,440 I'm sure he'll take our call. No, I definitely would 551 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,200 agree with Grant more. I definitely saw some of those concerns, 552 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,599 and I think part of this is he does have Bank, 553 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,759 does have some really positive attributes, good size. I know 554 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:14,519 the skating is a bit of a question, but it's 555 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:17,240 decent at least for this level. He's right handed, he 556 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,519 plays for London, they always get a lot of attention, 557 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,920 and he's certainly then the team is good and he 558 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,240 has looked good with them. But I definitely agree about 559 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,839 the what Grant pointed out with the power play, He's 560 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000 not playing a typical role and it's a role that 561 00:29:32,079 --> 00:29:34,279 he will not play at higher levels, and so that 562 00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:36,000 that's almost a little bit of a disservice to him 563 00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:40,200 long term. And they have Dickinson there in London, so 564 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:44,160 he's not so Bonk isn't getting those power play reps. 565 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:47,920 And Dickinson's been having a great season, certainly way out 566 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,799 shining Bonk in many capacities. And yeah, it's definitely it's 567 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:56,240 definitely a tricky evaluation with Bonk and I definitely have 568 00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,240 some concerns in terms of his long term projection and 569 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,759 London is again a great team, but I'm not sure 570 00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:06,200 that he is going to rise to the level of 571 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,400 what some people think that Oliver Bank can be. 572 00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: In that case, Victor what we'll look at him. He 573 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,680 seems to be a touchback of last year's pace in 574 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,160 his fourth year with the Memorial Cup runners up London Knights, 575 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,680 and yeah, I just don't know what where's the points 576 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,599 and Bash gonna look here for him eventually? Compared to Grant's. 577 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,799 Speaker 4: Assessment, yeah, I think that Grant is probably right on. 578 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,039 There's certainly upside for a little bit more points if 579 00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:36,160 everything goes well, and if he does get a top 580 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,799 four role and plays a lot of minutes and gets 581 00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:41,599 a little bit of that opportunity. I just don't think 582 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,279 he's someone who's really going to demand it, and so 583 00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:46,400 I think that, yeah, there should be a little bit 584 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,240 more pessimism. He had that spike last year up to 585 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:52,480 a seventy five pnchily, but before that this season and 586 00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:55,759 two seasons ago, he's been in the forties. And remember 587 00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:59,559 that Mason's model gives defenseman a little bit bump for Pinchly, 588 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,799 and so he's probably that's realistically more like a thirty 589 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,960 ish point guy, and so that's probably who he is. 590 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,440 The bash does tend to be decent with Bonk, and 591 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,160 so you do get a little bit more of that 592 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,960 peripheral floor. And I think that if he does carve 593 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,119 out a role in the NHL, it's not going to 594 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,880 be it's going to be more of that physical clear 595 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,559 around in front of the net. In fact, I really 596 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,680 like those comps that Grant said, CC and Hull, who 597 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,799 certainly have some of that physicality. The other thing that 598 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,279 they both have is they tend to get they tend 599 00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:32,920 to get turnstile, and they tend to get turned and 600 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:35,240 have some issue defending the rush. And I think that 601 00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:38,640 might be true also for Bonk, and so that might 602 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,119 limit some of his opportunities. But if he can hang 603 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,119 and find his role and work on some of his 604 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,200 gap control, then and if he finds a role in 605 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,640 the NHL, then he certainly will provide those prefs to 606 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,039 make up for the lack of points. 607 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: Of course, Victor, and let us never forget justin Hole 608 00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:56,000 such an important player that he had to be protected 609 00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:00,000 or wither Jared m Jared mccannon during the Toronto expansion 610 00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:02,160 and draft to Seattle, we know how good Justin Hole 611 00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:06,440 was just teasing Toronto fans. I'm pretty sure that's what happened. 612 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,359 I don't remember Mason Black put out the NHL ranking 613 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,839 poll Tanner Mullendike versus Oliver Bank. Mullendyke taken two slots 614 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,240 after Bank in the twenty twenty three draft. And what 615 00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:21,319 did the NHL ranking get from the people in terms 616 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,640 of a poll vote Mullendyke over Bank fifty six to 617 00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:29,480 forty four percent victory. Is that how your brack can stack? 618 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if you consider the pessimism around Bank, 619 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,160 then I think that it's reasonable. I frankly, when I 620 00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:40,799 looked at this pole and I was thinking about this, 621 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,400 I think the best advice here is just to turn 622 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,559 away from both these guys. Quite frankly, I don't think 623 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:48,160 that either of them is going to be someone that 624 00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:51,759 you're really gonna miss having on your team. Mullendyke is 625 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:56,440 someone who I certainly think has a better floor and 626 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,599 a better chance of being an NHLer. So if you 627 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,480 want someone who is at least be racking up points 628 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,359 at some point on your team, then I think that's 629 00:33:05,359 --> 00:33:07,319 gonna be Mullendike. I don't think he's going to rack 630 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,319 up much because I don't think he's going to be 631 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,920 much of a scorer. But I think he can play 632 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,880 in the NHL. His skating is so good, and that's 633 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,799 something that he can leverage to at least be the 634 00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:19,160 bottom pairing guy and even if he doesn't get better 635 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,720 in other ways. But Mullendyke, to me, strikes me as 636 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,680 someone in fantasy who's just out there all the time 637 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:27,240 but doesn't really do anything in terms of fantasy, but 638 00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,599 it's good for your team, kind of like a Matt 639 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,839 Roy sort of guy, or maybe a very lesser version 640 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,599 of Jacob Slaven where he's out there a lot and 641 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,440 you imagine he could do more, but he just doesn't 642 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,799 for your team. But I think he's going to be 643 00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:43,240 helpful to his NHL team, and so I think that 644 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:46,880 gives him a better chance of actually playing. And if 645 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000 there's certainly leagues deep enough where just having guys play 646 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,200 is very helpful, and so in that case, I would 647 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,880 certainly lead lean Mullendyke. I think he has a much 648 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,119 better chance of playing, even though his bash won't be 649 00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,160 very good I don't think, might be a little average, 650 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,640 and his scoring I think will be minimal, but at 651 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,880 least he'll be playing, and so I would lean mullen 652 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,559 Dyde for that reason absolutely. 653 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 3: Moving on our next player, e J Emery is another 654 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,559 one that Tony scouted for as a defenseman for the 655 00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:20,960 New York Rangers, and Tony says, good skater, agile, able 656 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,000 to stop offensive players by forcing them into bad shots. 657 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,519 Excellent passer gets offense started by getting the puck out 658 00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:31,480 of the d zone quickly shooting. Not EJ's forte. He's 659 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,000 going to need to work on that. IQ. Great vision 660 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,960 sees ways to play good D against rushing players and 661 00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:41,119 how to get the puck out of the d zone. 662 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,760 And Tony didn't see much for checking in the games 663 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,519 he watched. Is not a bash defenseman, more of a 664 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:52,440 passive defenseman, maybe a defensive defenseman, says Tony. So the 665 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:57,000 biggest asset skating and vision to see plays develop, But 666 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,000 the biggest concern is the shooting. Two might be the 667 00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:04,360 upside for EJ. Probably a good assist man might not 668 00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:09,440 probably be a good plus minus player, says Tony. Plus 669 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,360 minus enters the chat, and that's because the passing, skating, 670 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,920 and vision could get him at least up to Tier two. 671 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,760 But the fiftieth percentile role probably more of a bottom 672 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,480 pairing or seventh defenseman. If he doesn't add some bashing 673 00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:28,239 goal scoring, that's the problem. Only Mata is the comp here, 674 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,800 and Tony says EJ's got to play to his strengths skating, passing, 675 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,880 vision and he should carve out a decent career. Only 676 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,159 Mata does not exactly victor get me ready to run 677 00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:44,360 through a wall for Emery. That said, the Rangers defensive 678 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,400 core doesn't quite seem as impossible to crack as it 679 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,360 once did as of this week. That sits clearing up 680 00:35:50,679 --> 00:35:53,320 down there in the defenseman for the Rangers, or at 681 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,400 least spouting cracks where you could see somebody getting in there. 682 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,840 I don't believe this number thirty pick from last year's 683 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,159 cracked even your top forty first year player draft ranks 684 00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:06,039 this year. Obviously, a defenseman who doesn't do a lot 685 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,280 of scoring probably not going to rise up in our 686 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,760 fantasy hockey player drafts. Have you seen anything to change 687 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,519 your mind since then? With Emery? 688 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 4: No, not really. He has one assist in seventeen games 689 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,199 at North Dakota after six assists in twenty seven games 690 00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:24,840 at the usn TDP or sorry, that was the USHL scoring. 691 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,360 He's not someone who's gonna score EJ. Emory, That's not 692 00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:32,039 really his job. Definitely, as you mentioned, defensive defenseman, he 693 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,239 is going to be again, I think a little bit 694 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,159 like Mullendyke, although I think Emory is a more well 695 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,360 rounded defenceman and he isn't just an awesome skater. Mullendyke 696 00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:43,880 is a really awesome skater, but isn't as good at 697 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,599 some of his gap control and work in the corners. 698 00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:50,480 But Emory more physical, He's got the size. He actually 699 00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:54,199 just really reminds me a lot of a similar version 700 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,199 of KeAndre Miller, which is funny that the Rangers took him. 701 00:36:57,199 --> 00:36:59,159 I wonder if that was part of it. Hey, we 702 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,880 like this guy who worked really well. Memory seems similar. 703 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,440 Let's get him too, maybe, but I think he's more 704 00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:08,840 like that and Miller, as people know, probably if you 705 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,639 roster him, it's only in the deepest of leagues. He's 706 00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:14,039 definitely a way better real life player than he is 707 00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:15,800 in fantasy. And I think that's going to be true 708 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,079 for Emory. I don't think there's going to be much scoring, 709 00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:20,679 but he's going to be He's going to be someone 710 00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:22,679 who can play in the league. And so if you're 711 00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:25,679 in a super deep league where just playing NHL minutes 712 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,519 is going to be good, then Emory is going to 713 00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:29,840 be helpful. But other than that, I don't think that 714 00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:33,039 you should expect really any scoring from him. And no, 715 00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:35,440 I don't think what's happened in North Dakota so far 716 00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:36,639 has changed my mind on that. 717 00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:39,559 Speaker 3: So we're how far do you think that upside can 718 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:42,239 get as far as scoring in the NHL If he 719 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,760 develops the way we hope. 720 00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:48,519 Speaker 4: Twenty points a year fifteen, it's like maybe he'll look 721 00:37:48,559 --> 00:37:50,239 into a goal living now with that an accident and 722 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,880 get a few assists. Like that's pretty much what I imagine. 723 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,639 Speaker 3: Tell me about a player you won't have on fantasy 724 00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:57,639 team without telling you telling me about a player you 725 00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:00,320 want to be in the fantasy team. Mason Black with 726 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,760 the NHL rank, King Pol, Alphonse Prey of the Winnipeg Jets, 727 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,360 who was taken seven picks later than Emery in this 728 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,000 year's draft, and Frage Free Gunnet what Is this some 729 00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:17,480 brady shade nonsense up in here? Is the Victor over 730 00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:22,119 Emory sixty eight to thirty one percent? Is that how 731 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:22,840 you rank them? 732 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 4: Victor? Yeah, I think so, And I'm pretty sure it's Frey, 733 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,679 And Yeah, I think that he has a little bit 734 00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:33,719 more upside. If I was picking for my NHL team, 735 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,960 I would have gone with what they did at the draft. 736 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,159 I would take Emery for sure. I think he's going 737 00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:41,119 to be a better real life defenseman, But for fantasy 738 00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:43,719 I'm definitely taking Frey. I think he has a little 739 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,039 bit more upside. I definitely. You know, you look at 740 00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:49,599 offensive defenseman last year and he was definitely down a 741 00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:51,719 down ballot sort of candidate. But I think that he 742 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,480 has some pretty decent upside. He's got the tools to play. 743 00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:57,920 He's got decent sized, good skating, he's got some pretty 744 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,159 good offensive instincts. He's represent in Sweden, He's got some 745 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,480 gotten some power play time there, so it's been good. 746 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,679 He is on loan in the Hockey El Svenskin, which 747 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,079 is probably a good league for him right now. He 748 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,320 was a little bit in the J twenty, which is 749 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,000 mainly where he played last year, and he did really well, 750 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,880 but he needed an extra challenge, and he's been doing 751 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:22,920 pretty well for IF yorkloven seven points in twenty two games, 752 00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:26,039 So I think Fray he's gotten some goring pains right 753 00:39:26,039 --> 00:39:28,920 now adjusting to professional hockey, but all in all, he's 754 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:34,039 been pretty solid and he's actually been producing some points. 755 00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:38,239 He's been driving play really well in a more difficult league, 756 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,039 and so it's nice to see him get that play driving. 757 00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,199 He hasn't really had much power play time, which is 758 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,079 which is reasonable because he's still a really young player. 759 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:49,039 He's actually not it, not even nineteen yet, and so 760 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,440 he has some room to grow and I would definitely 761 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,880 take him with low expectations that he grows into something major, 762 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,039 But in terms of upside it's way higher than it 763 00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:01,280 is for Emory, So I would take Frey easily. 764 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 3: Next up Victor, we got Igor Sorin of the Nashville Predators. 765 00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:11,320 Craig is on the report. Craig wise a center winger 766 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:15,960 and his skating average to slightly above speedy guy uses 767 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,400 his edges to maintain speed around defenders, or in transition, 768 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,880 utilizes tight button hooks to evade defenders by time for 769 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,599 his linemates to catch up. Above average hands. He's going 770 00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:29,280 to have fans out there in out of their seats, 771 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:32,280 and he's going to have those quick, smooth hands on 772 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,960 display uses quick little passes to create space. He's able 773 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,960 to find open lanes and create offense. Average shooting because 774 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,199 he doesn't shoot a whole lot right now, but he does. 775 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,079 When he does, it's a quick, powerful release. Because the 776 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:48,119 knack to shoot more, this could quickly develop into above 777 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,719 average IQ is probably shouldn't say IQ is below average, 778 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,760 but his vision, anticipation, panic poise. He usually chooses the 779 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,599 low percentage plays to point rather than the easy pass. 780 00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:03,320 When carrying the puck into the offensive zone, he often 781 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,559 turned the puck over at the line rather than get 782 00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:09,039 it in deep. Swarn was more successful in the MHL 783 00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:13,320 games that he watched, so wonders if it's about getting 784 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,079 his timing down and figuring out what will and won't 785 00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:19,719 work for Sewarn in the KHL. Hard to deny the talent, 786 00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:22,079 but the number of mistakes need to be cleaned up 787 00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:25,400 before any NHL coach will give him a shot. For checking, 788 00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:28,400 average Sorn isn't afraid to be the first man in 789 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,360 on the fore check. He'll throw his body around defense. 790 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,639 Average uses his speed to press defenders, but sometimes can 791 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,639 be found cheating for offense. So the best asset the 792 00:41:37,639 --> 00:41:41,920 puck handling. Potential to be proficient playmaker if everything breaks right, 793 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,159 but the concern the amount of turnovers could keep him 794 00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:49,400 out of the NHL. He could potentially clean this up. 795 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,880 Top tier potential tier two seventy points average BASH. The 796 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,639 playmaking's there, the shots coming along, and if you can 797 00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:59,280 find himself in the top six, then Craig likes his 798 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,639 chances of this ceiling the median outcome tier three fifty 799 00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:06,599 points average BASH. He's going to have to sacrifice some 800 00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:09,559 of that playmaking to improve his two way game to 801 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,079 get in a lineup. How much of it remains a question, 802 00:42:12,559 --> 00:42:15,519 but the raw talent alone should help him succeed in 803 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:19,960 the stylistic comparable Mattias Mitchelli with a little more physicality 804 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,400 and a better shot victory for dabber prospects. I do 805 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,039 a little bit of work in the Nashville Preds. I'm 806 00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:27,639 a little behind on that, actually, but I did do 807 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,719 some stuff on your surin this summer. I definitely looked 808 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,719 at where he was at with some of these rankings, 809 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,079 and I know he really impressed when he came over 810 00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:39,719 to Nashville's prospect camp and really sizzled over there. He 811 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,559 is pretty good in my poll, but his is his upside. 812 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,239 Mattias MITCHELLI like for you the same way it is 813 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,480 for mister Craig. 814 00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. Probably, I think he certainly has that upside. I 815 00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:58,199 understand what he's saying about the turnovers. I think young players, 816 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,159 when they're trying to create, they that they might be 817 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,920 prone to that, and he certainly is doing his best. 818 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,159 He is having a limited role right now in the AKHL. 819 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,280 He killed it last year in the MHL, and he's 820 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,360 been trying to play a little bit more for the 821 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,280 Locomotive KHL team, and so he doesn't have as much production. 822 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,480 But oftentimes, when you're trying to create and you're trying 823 00:43:18,519 --> 00:43:22,880 to contribute, sometimes that leads to more turnovers. And sometimes 824 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,400 that gets a little bit overblown, just in the sense 825 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,480 that you did players that have the most turnovers in 826 00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:31,679 general are the best offensive creators that are trying things. 827 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,320 And if you don't have any turnovers, that doesn't necessarily 828 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,440 mean you're good. It just might mean you're not trying things. 829 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,239 And so he has to learn to find that balance, 830 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,920 and I think he's working on that. So far it 831 00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:44,440 hasn't shown too much in terms of production. But he's 832 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,519 also not getting very much ice time. He's been getting 833 00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:49,239 an average of nine minutes and fifteen seconds of time 834 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,079 on ice in the KHL, so that's just not really enough. 835 00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:53,880 So you look at the five points in twenty five 836 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,559 games and you think, oh, it's terrible, but he's getting 837 00:43:56,559 --> 00:43:59,239 pretty much no power play time and very limited roles. 838 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,280 If you look at his point for sixty, it's not terrible. 839 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,360 It's not terrible. So if you double his minutes, he 840 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,119 would probably more than double his scoring. So I still 841 00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:09,000 like Saren a lot. I think he has a pretty 842 00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:12,920 pretty great upside and yeah, certainly could be similar to Michelli, 843 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,239 hopefully with more bash because Michelli is really low for that, 844 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,760 but actually it might be similar. 845 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 3: And in the NHL ranking poll he goes up against 846 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,880 fellow predator Zachary LaRue, who is now in the NHL, 847 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,119 And it was a fast riser after being somebody who 848 00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:34,800 initially I know, we didn't have a lot of love for, 849 00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:40,159 but the people have spoken. And in the NHL ranking poll, 850 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,039 Igor Swaring comes out ahead of lahru Is fifty three 851 00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:49,639 to forty seven percent. Victor is Sown's potential still above LaRue's. 852 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,559 Further down the funnel actuality. 853 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that his I think that Seren's potential 854 00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:02,119 is higher than laru'z. But on the other hand, I 855 00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:05,599 think that I've been really impressed with what LaRue has 856 00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:09,760 been doing more recently, and so that's hard to balance. 857 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,320 I think if you just went based on pure upside, 858 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,599 I would lean Surin because of what he's been doing 859 00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:19,119 at a young age and the Russian leagues. I think 860 00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:22,519 I really like his potential to be an offensive score. 861 00:45:23,199 --> 00:45:25,000 But on the other hand, Laru, Yeah, I was a 862 00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:27,239 little sour at him. There was some that's funny you 863 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,599 mentioned IQ. There were some my key issues and some 864 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,800 questions of his decision making. He's always been a tough customer, 865 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,320 but there were questions about his off puck play and 866 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,400 his timing and picking his spots. But so far this 867 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,880 season he's played LaRue's played twenty three games, and I 868 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,719 detailed this at the end of last season with his 869 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,280 strong age OH play and going into the playoffs. But man, 870 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,079 he has really been impressive so far this year, and 871 00:45:50,119 --> 00:45:52,599 the points haven't necessarily been there because he only has 872 00:45:52,639 --> 00:45:54,760 six points in twenty three games for Nashville. Of course, 873 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,000 Nashville as a whole has been pretty awful and has 874 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,360 struggled this year. But LaRue, he comes in at sixty 875 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,760 three percentile for defense and fifty three for offense, pretty 876 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,840 well above average in a couple of those metrics over 877 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,519 at Evolving Hockey and overall looks like he's figuring it 878 00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:13,960 out at the NHL level. And so I would definitely 879 00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:16,880 lean LaRue just in terms of proximity to the NHL, 880 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,360 even if his upside might be lower. I would take 881 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,639 him because I don't think it's that massive of a gap, 882 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,960 and sir and still has a lot of questions to answer, 883 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,360 So I would definitely take I did take him, I 884 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,480 did acquire him in several leagues based on the end 885 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,400 of last season and his proximity to the NHL, which 886 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,920 is paying off in our tidy. He's certainly above average 887 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,760 in terms of his scoring, and he's flexing him up 888 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,800 and down is really helpful right now. And so I 889 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,639 really like that. And maybe if Nashville has starts waving 890 00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:45,280 the white flag a little bit more, maybe they give 891 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,559 their kids even more of a role. So I like 892 00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:52,320 that as well. It would be fun to seemendous picture. 893 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 3: Let's take a break, come back and we've got a 894 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,760 few more guys to discuss. 895 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 4: Easy, have some ref ranks only sad. 896 00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 3: Bier. Now it's time to talk the draft eligible guys 897 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,440 to people who are not yet with NHL teams, and 898 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,840 so a little. They're going to be talked about a 899 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,119 lot in twenty twenty five, Let's put it that way. Sasha, 900 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,079 our scout, talks about Porter Martone, a right winger who 901 00:47:25,199 --> 00:47:27,239 may not be the fastest on the ice, but his 902 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,000 solid stride and strong foundation make him highly effective. While 903 00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:33,719 his top speed is average, balance and strength allow him 904 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,679 to stay composed and sturdy under pressure, makes it hard 905 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,679 for opponents to knock him off the puck. Whatever he 906 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,400 lacks an agility, he makes up for an edgework passing 907 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,280 and handling remarkable ability to handle the puck in tight spaces, 908 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,079 especially around the boards for a bigger guy. Stick handling 909 00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:56,000 allows him to control the puck effectively in traffic and 910 00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:59,119 for shooting. Sasha likes his shot a lot. Not only 911 00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:01,800 a nifty release for such a big guy, but it 912 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,199 comes with heaviness able to release on a resshot on 913 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,239 reception for a one timer, and elevation on a backhand. 914 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:17,559 Still passing is probably the stronger of his tools in IQ, vision, anticipation, panic, poise. 915 00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:21,000 This is the area of Sasha sees the need for improvement, 916 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,079 and he's got to stay consistent in off puck reads 917 00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:27,079 as well as his work rate. It all fits into there. 918 00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:30,199 But the anticipation of vision are still good. It's some 919 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,159 of these other things he's got to work on solid 920 00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:36,400 four checker outworks guys along the boards in the offensive 921 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,000 zone in order to set up his teammates and the defense. 922 00:48:40,159 --> 00:48:44,000 Not the brightest from martone, but Sasha still thinks though 923 00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:46,519 he looked a little lost in the defensive zone. He 924 00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:49,440 needs to work on off puck movements. But the sheer 925 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,360 size is going to let him get away with things 926 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,679 in the junior leagues that he won't in the NHL 927 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,519 or other pro leagues. The best asset then passing ability 928 00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:01,280 and the net front skill. For the feller, the biggest 929 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,400 concern is the pace and the skating. Top tier outcome 930 00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:08,119 would be a top line winner. If you can put 931 00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:11,000 together everything with consistency, he could be a top three 932 00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:14,400 player out of his draft class. Improved skating stride mixed 933 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,239 in with offensive skill and vision would make him a 934 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,760 dominant force and the fiftieth outcome the median outcome here 935 00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:23,840 top nine power forward winger with power playability. You always 936 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,360 like to hear about these guys who've got the size 937 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,840 and some physicality in terms of hopes of some floor 938 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,719 pace is a concern could cripple him in terms of 939 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,559 hitting his ceiling and the stylistic comparable. Have we not 940 00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:39,400 banned Brady could Chuck as the stylistic comparable? Yet maybe 941 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,719 it's warranted. We're talking about a draft eligible we don't 942 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,320 know yet. This is really high praise from Martne. Is 943 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,920 this guy as high in the class for you as? 944 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,079 It sounds like he didn't really say where he could 945 00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:52,519 come out, but a potential top line winner. That's something 946 00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:54,760 that's going to be quite attractive in the draft. Is 947 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,119 that where he's coming out for you right now? Victor? 948 00:49:58,119 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he probably is the top winger, the 949 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,920 guy who seems like he is for sure a winger 950 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:07,840 in this draft class. There are certainly some questions about 951 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,119 his full upside, but I think he has the frame 952 00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:13,920 and he has a lot of the snarl, and he 953 00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:16,199 has a lot of the aspects of his game that 954 00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:18,320 this certainly makes you think he can be an elite 955 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,119 fantasy aspect and asset, and so that makes you pretty 956 00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:24,840 excited about it. My player cards don't aren't fully updated 957 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,199 for the twenty twenty fives yet, but I'm just looking 958 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,320 at his bash and he's about three quarters of a 959 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,840 hit per game and not even a quarter of a 960 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,400 block per game. His shots are three a game, and overall, 961 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,159 his bash for someone who's big and could be physically imposing, 962 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,559 is a little bit, it seems right now underwhelming, and 963 00:50:46,639 --> 00:50:49,440 so that's a little bit disappointing because you see the 964 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,199 potential there and maybe he'll get there, but they don't. 965 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,719 That doesn't always happen, and I think that there's certainly 966 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,880 room for excitement. I personally haven't seen enough to move 967 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,519 him of a couple other guys, but I do think 968 00:51:02,679 --> 00:51:05,320 he's helped himself in just what he's done at the 969 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,679 U eighteens and so far this season at the top 970 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,119 Prospects game, and he's not ranked anywhere that I can 971 00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:15,559 see lower than any lower than five, but most outlets 972 00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:18,480 have him at two, and so that's where he's sitting 973 00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:21,320 right now in terms of his consolidated rank at EP. 974 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,599 Speaker 3: And the pole is going to put him up against 975 00:51:24,639 --> 00:51:27,360 James Hagens, So no big deal, just go against James 976 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,079 Hagens here and Hagen's according to the NHL ranking pole 977 00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:34,639 comes out way ahead of portemer Tone sixty five to 978 00:51:34,639 --> 00:51:39,559 two thirty five percent. Victor. Is that a accurate representation 979 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,920 of where these guys should be? 980 00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is one where I actually agree with the 981 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:50,239 poll pretty consistently. This is the number one consolidated and 982 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,719 the number two consolidated player ranks going against each other 983 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,159 according to EP. Of course that doesn't mean that's what 984 00:51:56,199 --> 00:51:59,559 their fantasy outlook will be. But Hagens, to me, is 985 00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:02,719 still number one. And I think because he's playing in 986 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,440 the NCAA, it maybe hasn't gotten much fair fair from 987 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,719 the guys over in Canada and in the CHL. I 988 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,079 think that maybe he isn't celebrated quite enough. I think 989 00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:13,800 his coming out party is going to be the World 990 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,239 Junior Championship, where he's going to be centering the top 991 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,079 line as a draft eligible alongside Ryan Leonard and Gay 992 00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:21,400 Pro and it's going to go off even if the 993 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,519 Americans don't win. I think Hagen's going to have an 994 00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:26,880 incredible tournament and he's going to cement himself back at 995 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,159 that top spot, which he is right now. No one 996 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,760 that I've seen has him ranked anywhere other than one. 997 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,320 Speaker 2: So far. 998 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,639 Speaker 4: There have been questions about whether some guys we'll talk 999 00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:39,119 about later, Matthew Schaeffer and Porta Morton or other people 1000 00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:42,079 might take that top spot. For me, it's Hagans. There's 1001 00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:46,480 no question. He ninety nine percentile on Hockey Prospecting, where 1002 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,840 Mortone is at sixty five. I think Hagan's is elite, 1003 00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:52,599 and I think he is going to be a Jack 1004 00:52:52,679 --> 00:52:56,760 Hughes esque fantasy asset with huge points up side and 1005 00:52:57,119 --> 00:52:59,480 certainty to play in the NHL and be a top 1006 00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:01,440 line player. So I don't think you can say those 1007 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,840 things about Martina, although I think that's all very likely, 1008 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,880 and I think his points upside is good. As a winger, 1009 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,280 it might be a little bit easier, but I don't 1010 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,599 know that the bash and the points upside is anywhere 1011 00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:12,440 near as high. So I'm taking Hagens all day. 1012 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 3: Top teams or bottom teams in the NHL. Is start 1013 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,000 time to start begging it for Hagens. Next guy up 1014 00:53:20,039 --> 00:53:24,039 is going to be Roger McQueen, another lottery candidate. And 1015 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,880 let's hear our FHL scout read it himself. 1016 00:53:28,039 --> 00:53:30,760 Speaker 4: Join now, but from our FHL scout Josh to hear 1017 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,239 a little bit about Roger McQueen. So, Josh, tell me 1018 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,119 a little bit about what you think the best quality 1019 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,360 is for Roger McQueen. 1020 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,119 Speaker 2: So, whenever you talk about well, Roger McQueen, the first 1021 00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:45,320 thing that stands out is that he is six foot 1022 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,800 five and that's always a big, big number and a 1023 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,320 big draw to a lot of teams. But he does 1024 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,960 he isn't just a big body. He has a lot 1025 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,239 of puck skills that he uses along with that big body. 1026 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,760 He's able to play with the puck on his stick 1027 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:08,440 really well and in tight spaces, and he has that 1028 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,840 physical edge that you'd want out of a six foot 1029 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:18,920 five player. So he's really a really skilled stick handler. 1030 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,239 And but it is attached to a six foot five 1031 00:54:24,159 --> 00:54:27,519 body that can throw his weight around and really hold 1032 00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:31,960 his own in the defensive and offensive zone. Really unique 1033 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,800 player to say the least in that regards. 1034 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, in that big frame, that big body, obviously, that's 1035 00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:41,519 very appealing it's unfortunate that as we're recording this he's 1036 00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:46,159 missing the chl USNTTP Top Prospect game. I wonder if 1037 00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:50,760 that frame and his physicality might lead to more injuries. 1038 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,920 Do you think that's something that you'd be a little 1039 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,199 bit concerned about or does that maybe not so worrisome. 1040 00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:02,039 Speaker 2: Definitely early in his career, like he's we're still talking 1041 00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:05,239 about teenagers here, He's still growing into his body and 1042 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:10,719 obviously can stand to add a bit more muscle and 1043 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,079 strength onto his frame. I don't think it would be 1044 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:18,719 a issue going forward. It's just something that conditioning and 1045 00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:22,199 growing into his body and growing up will definitely help 1046 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,119 him in that regards. I don't see it as a 1047 00:55:25,159 --> 00:55:27,159 major issue going forward, hopefully. 1048 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 4: Nice What do you think some of the more concerning 1049 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,239 qualities are room for improvement that this player has. 1050 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,480 Speaker 2: If you hear six foot five, there's always the thought 1051 00:55:39,679 --> 00:55:44,320 he's not a great skater, and unfortunately it is true 1052 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:50,760 with Roger McQueen. He isn't as bad as other big skaters, 1053 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,840 big forwards that we've seen in recent years, thinking of 1054 00:55:53,960 --> 00:56:00,559 Daniel Boot or Quentin Musty, but he can stand to 1055 00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:03,679 skate faster and read the play a little bit faster. 1056 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,440 He can be just about a half step behind sometimes 1057 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,840 and that can be an issue obviously, and the foot 1058 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,840 speed is a big one. He could also just shoot 1059 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,079 a little bit more and develop his shot into a 1060 00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:22,480 bit more of a threat rather than a just purely 1061 00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:27,800 stickhandle set up guy. But that's the stuff that he 1062 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,480 can work on. He's never going to be a great skater, 1063 00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:35,559 but for his size, he's already pretty decent. Not I 1064 00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:38,880 wouldn't say he's a great skater, but six foot five 1065 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,199 you're not going to be a great skater, unfortunately. At 1066 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:42,880 any time. 1067 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 4: It's pretty rare. Yeah, I would say, well, who do 1068 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,760 you think is a good style as comparable for Roger McQueen. 1069 00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so when we're with big scoring forwards, you always 1070 00:56:54,880 --> 00:57:00,199 look at the big breakout Thompson on the Buffalo Sabers there. 1071 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,519 That's definitely like the peak. I see a lot of 1072 00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:14,559 a draft pick from two years ago when Quentin Musty 1073 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,840 for the San Jose Sharks, who went I think mid 1074 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,000 first round. But he is quite a lot better of 1075 00:57:22,039 --> 00:57:25,920 a skater than Musty is and has that same kind 1076 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,719 of toolboxy quick hands, really good stick handling, really good 1077 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:36,719 puck skills. Obviously with a big power forward you're thinking 1078 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,280 of Thompson. I think that's definitely the best case scenario. 1079 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:47,000 But he's a unicorn in his size and puck skills. 1080 00:57:47,079 --> 00:57:50,840 It's really hard to kind of contrast him with anyone 1081 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:51,639 else right now. 1082 00:57:53,239 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Thompson has a pretty great shot, so maybe that's 1083 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,519 not maybe without that, Yeah. 1084 00:57:58,519 --> 00:58:03,639 Speaker 2: It's more about the size and offensive mix kind of thing. 1085 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,719 They both like. Thompson's much more of a shooter where 1086 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,519 McQueen is definitely way more of a stick handler. So 1087 00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:15,719 it's not perfect. But when you think of big forwards 1088 00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:19,159 that are offensive and big, you think of Thompson. 1089 00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:23,199 Speaker 4: Really Yeah, I also makes me think a little bit 1090 00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:25,639 about Jason Robertson with the not great skating. 1091 00:58:27,159 --> 00:58:30,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that as well. For sure. I 1092 00:58:30,239 --> 00:58:33,519 don't think he's got quite that high of a ceiling 1093 00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:37,440 that Robertson has reached in the past year or two, 1094 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,840 but even he's had a little bit of struggles this 1095 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:41,920 year I think as well. 1096 00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:46,440 Speaker 4: Nice, So what do you think his realistic upside is? 1097 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,719 Do you think he's a top six player, top line player, 1098 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,199 middle six If you had to guess, what do you 1099 00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:54,480 think Roger McQueen is most likely going to Land. 1100 00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 2: I think it's really going to depend on his develop mint, 1101 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:05,519 of his timing, of how fast he can move and 1102 00:59:05,559 --> 00:59:08,719 how fast he can read the game. Right now, I 1103 00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:13,519 don't think he quite has the top line potential. He's 1104 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,639 not quite in the top five for me in this 1105 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,320 draft class. I have other forwards and defenders ahead of him, 1106 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:26,559 like Misa and Hagen's Schaeffer for sure, So I think 1107 00:59:26,719 --> 00:59:30,880 he can really solidly fit on a second line role. 1108 00:59:31,079 --> 00:59:33,599 He can put up a lot of points. He could 1109 00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:36,440 play physically, he could probably take up some time on 1110 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,119 the penalty kill, play defensively in his own zone. So 1111 00:59:40,159 --> 00:59:43,599 I don't think he quite has top line potential, but 1112 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,000 if everything works out, he could be a very good 1113 00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:48,079 second line player for sure. 1114 00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 4: Love it. Yeah, He's definitely ranked as high as second 1115 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,039 by lead prospects right now as recording this, and as 1116 00:59:57,079 --> 00:59:59,800 low as like nine, So he seems solidly like a 1117 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,559 top but some people might even push him into that 1118 01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:04,320 top five. Seems like you'd have him a little bit 1119 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:04,719 after that. 1120 01:00:06,159 --> 01:00:09,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's less on him and more of 1121 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,199 quality of players above him. I just think that other 1122 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:18,440 guys have higher upside and there's less question marks in 1123 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,920 their game. It can definitely I could see a way 1124 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,840 where he doesn't adapt to the speed of the NHL 1125 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,039 and doesn't quite make a very good impact that way, 1126 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,400 which I don't think that's the most likely case, but 1127 01:00:34,519 --> 01:00:39,440 it is a small possibility where other players there's not 1128 01:00:39,639 --> 01:00:43,320 really that risk. So I would put him between five 1129 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,599 and ten Right now, I wouldn't see him in my 1130 01:00:46,719 --> 01:00:51,000 top five, but hopefully when he comes back from this injury, 1131 01:00:51,039 --> 01:00:52,880 there he can get on a bit of a tear 1132 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,079 and show people what he can do. 1133 01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:57,559 Speaker 4: Awesome, Thanks so much for your insights, Josh. 1134 01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're welcome. Thanks for having me. 1135 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,239 Speaker 3: Great stuff from Josh, And it sounds to me like 1136 01:01:04,519 --> 01:01:07,800 mister McQueen is near the very top of this class. 1137 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:08,880 How does he rate out for you? 1138 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's definitely near the top of the class, 1139 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:16,039 and especially in terms of just skill and potential, he 1140 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,480 is way up there. He's consolidated number five. I think 1141 01:01:19,519 --> 01:01:23,280 he's definitely a top ten, probably a top five fantasy assets, 1142 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,079 still a lot to go. One of the concerns with 1143 01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:27,760 him is that he has had dealt with some injuries, 1144 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,840 and so is there going to be a problem staying healthy. 1145 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,360 He's had a bunch of little things come up this year, 1146 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,320 He's only played eight games. He had reduced games played 1147 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,719 the last couple of seasons as well, so that's something 1148 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,519 you tend to worry a little bit about. I don't 1149 01:01:41,519 --> 01:01:43,360 know that any of them are long term or like 1150 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,039 potentially nagging, but as a bigger guy who does to 1151 01:01:47,199 --> 01:01:48,840 mix it up a little bit, I think that there's 1152 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,559 some worry there that might be an issue. I think 1153 01:01:51,559 --> 01:01:55,559 in terms of just how much skill he has, he's 1154 01:01:55,599 --> 01:01:59,800 definitely in the top two or three in this class. 1155 01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:03,400 The question is just whether he will reach it. And 1156 01:02:03,559 --> 01:02:07,119 that's the question with McQueen. Yeah, McQueen, that makes you 1157 01:02:07,159 --> 01:02:09,280 a little bit worried, and he didn't get to show 1158 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,599 it off at the at the Top Prospects game. But 1159 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,239 I think that there's there's still a lot of potential there. 1160 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,840 And I do think that he has a little bit 1161 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,760 of advantage too, because he is really old for this 1162 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,840 draft class. He's inn October second birthday, so he's just 1163 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,519 a couple of weeks away from being eligible from this 1164 01:02:25,559 --> 01:02:27,400 past draft, the twenty twenty four draft, and so that 1165 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,960 would have been a different situation. But he has the 1166 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:35,239 ability to impose himself physically on smaller players, and so 1167 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,239 he's still a bit raw, but man, he's got a 1168 01:02:37,239 --> 01:02:37,960 lot of potential. 1169 01:02:38,519 --> 01:02:43,159 Speaker 3: Victor. The NHL ranking pole is going to place our 1170 01:02:43,199 --> 01:02:46,559 guy here up against the Roger McQueen versus Kiden Lindstrom 1171 01:02:46,639 --> 01:02:50,360 of the Columbus Blue Jackets, and in the poll, it 1172 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,760 looks like Lindstrom still comes out ahead of McQueen fifty 1173 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,239 five to forty five percent. Is that how you rank him? 1174 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 4: I think so Lindstrom had these questions about the back injury, 1175 01:03:02,679 --> 01:03:06,679 and there were some concerns about whether he would continue 1176 01:03:06,719 --> 01:03:09,880 to have some issues with that, and I get that, 1177 01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:12,000 and I do think that he has the big body. 1178 01:03:12,039 --> 01:03:14,320 Both these guys are actually really big body and have 1179 01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:18,519 some of that physicality and imposing position. I think there's 1180 01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:20,920 a little bit more dynamic skill with McQueen. There's a 1181 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,679 little bit more two way ability with Lindstrom, which gives 1182 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,880 him a higher floor and maybe a little bit more 1183 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,800 security to be in the NHL. But I think both 1184 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,519 these guys are pretty exciting. I would lean Linstrom just 1185 01:03:32,599 --> 01:03:35,800 because he's doing really well. He's building on his draft 1186 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,119 eligible season, and I think that there's a little bit 1187 01:03:39,199 --> 01:03:43,320 more security in terms of him being in NHL or 1188 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,880 But I think that it is close, and if you 1189 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,800 wanted to bet on just pure upside, then I think 1190 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,639 I probably would take McQueen. But it is so less. 1191 01:03:50,639 --> 01:03:52,400 It depends on whether you're a risk averse or not, 1192 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,480 whether you want to risk a little bit of less 1193 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,880 security for more upside than I would take McQueen. If 1194 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,639 you want a little bit more security with still some 1195 01:03:58,679 --> 01:04:01,400 pretty significant upside, Linstrom. 1196 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,719 Speaker 3: I apologize if everybody has already made this joke, Victor, 1197 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,920 but if the Tampa Bay Lightning did not trade up 1198 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,159 high in the draft and draft him as Lightning McQueen, 1199 01:04:09,239 --> 01:04:12,000 I'm going to be very disappointed. Next up, we got 1200 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,079 Matthew Schaeffer, and this is what Sasha has to say 1201 01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:18,360 about him. Might be the best skater in the class. 1202 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:23,159 It's defined by agile movement, impeccable control. He's a dominant 1203 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,920 presence on the ice, four way mobility, seamless transitions in 1204 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,719 any direction, passing, amazing handler of the puck at full 1205 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:34,519 stride or in tight spaces in all zones, shooting excellent 1206 01:04:34,679 --> 01:04:38,679 rist shot fits the modern day defensive, the NHL offensive, 1207 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,800 d man and the IQ. In Sasha's opinion, the smartest 1208 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,320 offensive defenseman in this draft class due to his high 1209 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:51,320 level intelligence and transition vision points. Stoic I hardly ever, 1210 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:57,039 panics and defense not as much, probably theoretically as weakest attributed. Honestly, 1211 01:04:57,199 --> 01:05:00,519 he's such an effective transition player it hardly spends any 1212 01:05:00,519 --> 01:05:03,559 time in his zone because of his high level IQ. 1213 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:07,760 He anticipates four checkers well, understands where his outlets are, 1214 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,559 and has the speed to get himself out of trouble. 1215 01:05:11,199 --> 01:05:15,079 So the best asset was that silky skating that Sasha 1216 01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:18,639 talked about. Biggest concern lack of physicality. Again, we're talking 1217 01:05:18,679 --> 01:05:22,559 about an offensive defenseman. So where Sasha places him the 1218 01:05:22,679 --> 01:05:26,719 top tier outcome, top two defenseman, top power play quarterback, 1219 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,280 that's because he's the full package. He could do big minutes, 1220 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,800 being a modern day power play quarterback that teams desperately 1221 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,719 need the median outcome. Sasha still sees the top four 1222 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,199 guy here first play, our first power play quarterback, even 1223 01:05:41,199 --> 01:05:44,320 if he can develop that physical game and only relies 1224 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,039 on the offensive game to repel him. If he does that, 1225 01:05:47,079 --> 01:05:50,280 he's going to lose some minutes. But that's just nitpicking 1226 01:05:50,679 --> 01:05:56,000 and the stylistic comparable Rasmus Dollon, although Sasha also criticizes 1227 01:05:56,039 --> 01:05:58,960 his own ability to come up with comps. But boy, 1228 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,320 that would be nice. Everybody loves a top defenseman with 1229 01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:06,719 offensive potential. Victor is shaper one who could break into 1230 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,079 make a difference on your fantasy team. 1231 01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:12,920 Speaker 4: I am not so sure about that. It's really interesting 1232 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,639 hearing Sasha frame him that way because I don't think 1233 01:06:16,679 --> 01:06:19,559 that I would agree with that about Schafer. I definitely 1234 01:06:19,639 --> 01:06:22,719 think that he is an awesome talent, and I think 1235 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,760 he's an awesome defenceman. And it sounds very likely that 1236 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,519 he is going to be on Team Canada's U twenty 1237 01:06:29,719 --> 01:06:33,199 World Junior Championship team, which is pretty impressive for a 1238 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,119 seventeen year old, and he won't be eighteen until September fifth, 1239 01:06:36,119 --> 01:06:39,440 he's draft eligible. That rarely happens. But he is that good. 1240 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,000 He is that good as an all around defenseman, and 1241 01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:44,280 I would bill him more that way. I think he 1242 01:06:45,239 --> 01:06:48,119 is a better all around defenseman. I think he's a 1243 01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:50,079 two way guy. I think he's someone who is going 1244 01:06:50,159 --> 01:06:54,280 to be a top four at least very likely top 1245 01:06:54,280 --> 01:07:00,280 pairing defenseman in the NHL. I think his offensive reduction 1246 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,559 has been a little bit overblown so far. I think 1247 01:07:02,599 --> 01:07:05,440 that he's someone who can do that but doesn't necessarily 1248 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:09,159 need that role to be effective for his team, and 1249 01:07:09,199 --> 01:07:11,800 I think that makes me a little less excited about 1250 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,039 him in fantasy. I don't think that Dollin is the 1251 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,000 comparable that I would use there, Maybe more like a 1252 01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:21,159 Owen Power if you want to stay on the same team, 1253 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,320 someone who is a good all around defenseman but and 1254 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,639 can produce offensively, but doesn't necessarily need that role and 1255 01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:30,800 might not necessarily be given that role, as we've seen 1256 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:34,480 with Power. So I'm a little bit more lukewarm on 1257 01:07:34,639 --> 01:07:37,519 Schaeffer's offensive ability, but I do think that he is 1258 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,800 incredible and he is a lock to play in the NHL, 1259 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,760 and I think that he's a lock to put up 1260 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,599 stats for your fantasy team. They just may not be 1261 01:07:45,639 --> 01:07:47,960 as high as some people may think. 1262 01:07:49,119 --> 01:07:54,159 Speaker 3: And the NHL ranking compares him to Archiem Lebschunoff, who 1263 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,679 was a very high pick obviously in this year's draft, 1264 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,800 and Shafer comes out way ahead of him sixty seven 1265 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,719 to thirty three percent. Victor. Is that an accurate assessment? 1266 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's tough. I was never the biggest lift Shuenoff fan. 1267 01:08:09,159 --> 01:08:10,840 I think I thought that some of the things that 1268 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,280 he did, I was worried how much they would translate 1269 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,639 to the NHL. But I think he obviously had a 1270 01:08:15,639 --> 01:08:18,039 really impressive season at Michigan State, and I think it's 1271 01:08:18,079 --> 01:08:20,119 really good that Chicago is not putting him right in 1272 01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:22,920 the NHL because I think he needs some development time. 1273 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,119 He is getting a lot of good offensive minutes in 1274 01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:29,439 the AHL. He's running their top power play. He's playing 1275 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,640 twenty one almost twenty two minutes a night, so it's 1276 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,000 good and I do think that he can continue to 1277 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:39,880 build and as super high potential. I think these two 1278 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,439 are probably pretty similar for me. I think that this 1279 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,520 should be a lot closer. I think everyone's really excited 1280 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,680 about Shaeffer right now with good reason. But again, I 1281 01:08:47,079 --> 01:08:49,840 really worry that he's going to be more of just 1282 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,640 a two way guy and not so offensive. I think 1283 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:57,199 lift Shuonoff leans more offensively than does Shaeffer, So that's 1284 01:08:57,199 --> 01:08:59,439 why I think this maybe should be a little bit closer. 1285 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,359 But I think in terms of who's going to be 1286 01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:03,680 the better all around player for their team, it probably 1287 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,920 is Shaffer, and so he's going to get more opportunity. 1288 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,199 He'll have probably more time on ice and might get 1289 01:09:09,239 --> 01:09:11,800 to run the top power play. So I probably would 1290 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:13,960 pick Schaeffer between these two, but I think it should 1291 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,880 be closer, and I don't think that the offense is 1292 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,239 going to be that much more incredible. 1293 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,640 Speaker 3: All right, and next up, Victor, we've got Yvonne Reabkin 1294 01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:27,760 of not anybody yet. We're going to see who's going 1295 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,880 to be part of Let's hear Patrick, our FHL scout 1296 01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:31,960 talk about him. 1297 01:09:32,039 --> 01:09:33,560 Speaker 4: So do you what you mean now to talk? Ivan? 1298 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,439 Reapkin is our FHL scout, Patrick Patrick, If you had 1299 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,399 to describe Rapkin in just ten words, how do you 1300 01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:41,159 think you would do that? 1301 01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 5: I would say that Reabkin is a very skilled hockey 1302 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,800 player who has a lot of question marks. Is Yeah, 1303 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,399 that's the way I put. 1304 01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 4: It, question marks. All right, we can dig into those 1305 01:09:56,079 --> 01:09:59,359 question marks. What do you think his best attributes his 1306 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,319 most pressive skills are. 1307 01:10:03,119 --> 01:10:07,319 Speaker 5: I think his most impressive attribute is passing and his handling, 1308 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,920 followed closely by his hockey IQ. 1309 01:10:12,279 --> 01:10:15,119 Speaker 4: All right, smart player with good passing. What do you 1310 01:10:15,159 --> 01:10:17,000 think he needs to work the most on? 1311 01:10:19,119 --> 01:10:22,079 Speaker 5: I would say that he worked the most on his shot. 1312 01:10:22,239 --> 01:10:25,800 I was not impressed by his shot, and he seemed 1313 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:30,359 to have a lot of HEAs intendsy to shoot and 1314 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,760 very often would pass it to off instead of taking 1315 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,640 shots that seem like they were good opportunities. I don't 1316 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,399 know if there's just some kind of uncertainty there or 1317 01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,840 an injury. That's something that I think is a huge 1318 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,800 question mark to watch and hopefully check in on later 1319 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:50,399 in the season. 1320 01:10:51,399 --> 01:10:56,039 Speaker 4: Gotcha, is he a defensive player? Does he backcheck pretty well? 1321 01:10:56,119 --> 01:10:58,359 Or is he more just an all offense kind of guy. 1322 01:11:00,119 --> 01:11:02,600 Speaker 5: No, I'd say that he's a pretty good defensive player. 1323 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,640 He gets back and he helps with defensive plays, helping 1324 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,600 his defenseman cover. Taking the puck off is the stick 1325 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,119 of the other team, So I have no questions there. 1326 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 4: Nice that's always good to hear, if that may not 1327 01:11:18,079 --> 01:11:24,000 limit him so much. What do you think his best 1328 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,039 comparable for him would be? I know it's always hard, 1329 01:11:26,039 --> 01:11:28,119 but who do you think would be a realistic comparable? 1330 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,840 Speaker 5: I think it's tough for this one. I don't know 1331 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:37,880 if I could think of a perfect comparable, but I 1332 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,039 guess the first one that came to mind for me 1333 01:11:40,319 --> 01:11:43,760 was brand Lambert, with not as maybe not as good 1334 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,079 of a shot and a little bit in Better Hockey 1335 01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:50,439 IQ and that I saw with the passing and the 1336 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,600 handling and the ability to transport the pulk comparisons there. 1337 01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,800 So yeah, that's my best comparable that I was thinking of. 1338 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,880 There might be other players, but as the first one 1339 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,640 that came to mind. 1340 01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:08,159 Speaker 4: And definitely in Lambert's year there was a lot of 1341 01:12:08,199 --> 01:12:10,520 discrepancy and opinions about him. Do you think that will 1342 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,840 be the case also with Rayabkin, I. 1343 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,640 Speaker 5: Would say that there is going to be a certain 1344 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,920 amount of discrepancy just because there's subtleties to his game 1345 01:12:19,079 --> 01:12:23,880 that like you can almost miss if you like, they 1346 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,680 can go by you a little bit easily. But he does, 1347 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,960 like said, he has those question marks, which I think 1348 01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:35,359 is comparable to Rayon Lambert's and maybe somebody like Edward Shawl, 1349 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:41,159 where I do think that it's gonna possibly be a 1350 01:12:41,239 --> 01:12:43,720 year or two after his draft year before we have 1351 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:44,920 some of the question marks. 1352 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:49,000 Speaker 4: Answered, Yeah, that's fair. It's always easier after, right, Do 1353 01:12:49,079 --> 01:12:52,119 you see those things? Do you think this that he's 1354 01:12:52,119 --> 01:12:53,920 a bit of a boom bus player or where do 1355 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,319 you think his realistic upside in first line, middle six, 1356 01:12:58,039 --> 01:13:01,439 top six? Where would you pay him. 1357 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 5: On my report, I put that I really think that 1358 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,159 he could be a first liner power play one just 1359 01:13:08,199 --> 01:13:11,199 because of the level of this skill and the passing 1360 01:13:11,239 --> 01:13:15,039 and the handling and the pretty good hockey iq. That 1361 01:13:15,159 --> 01:13:19,760 shots what gives me pause, and the defense is there 1362 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,159 and that's gonna definitely be a positive on his side 1363 01:13:22,199 --> 01:13:25,520 as well. That's where I think is he could definitely 1364 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:30,560 have that line one power play one. Upside just might 1365 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,600 be a situation where he doesn't end up having the 1366 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:35,680 most points outside. 1367 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm peripherals fair. Thanks so much for giving us 1368 01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,840 your report, and reap Kin Patrick. 1369 01:13:44,319 --> 01:13:46,720 Speaker 5: You're welcome. Thanks for having me. 1370 01:13:49,159 --> 01:13:51,840 Speaker 3: Good talking there. And this guy has slipped into the 1371 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,800 smog layer as far as I'm concerned. When these guys 1372 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,359 get in the MHL and start getting jerked around with promotions, 1373 01:13:58,359 --> 01:14:00,520 sometimes we don't see stat lines as really hard to 1374 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,840 figure out what's going on with him. I think we 1375 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,520 should name this after Danilla You're off and call it 1376 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,640 the yurgatory, the Russian yurgatory, where like a purgatory for 1377 01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,119 you're off, where you don't know what they're doing until 1378 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,039 they come out of that. Is he going to be 1379 01:14:14,079 --> 01:14:19,319 a favorite prospect if and when he emerges from that area. 1380 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's really hard to say, right because 1381 01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,239 of the fact that they get jerked around like that. 1382 01:14:25,359 --> 01:14:28,720 As you said, he is definitely one of the best 1383 01:14:29,159 --> 01:14:33,600 prospects in Russia. I think that there's been some question 1384 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,880 of how well that's all going. It's hard to say. 1385 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,840 He hasn't gotten much KHL play or VHL play. He 1386 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,600 was incredible last year in the MHL, which is part 1387 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,720 of what has generated some of this hype, but so 1388 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,760 far he's been a little bit it's been a little 1389 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,720 bit subdued so far in the in Russia, mainly playing 1390 01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,199 in the NHL this past season. So I think that 1391 01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:54,840 there's maybe still some questions. We need to see a 1392 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,479 longer a larger sample size, and it's really unfortunately we're 1393 01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,960 not going to see them, not going to see him internet, 1394 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,199 and so it's going to be really hard to tell. 1395 01:15:02,279 --> 01:15:04,560 But he certainly has a ton of skill, and I 1396 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,159 think Reap can maybe it's one of these cases where 1397 01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:09,399 he falls a little bit down the draft board and 1398 01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,600 then you get some really good value, because I do 1399 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,079 still think that he has a ton of upside and 1400 01:15:14,119 --> 01:15:18,239 he's certainly the top Russian prospect and did well in 1401 01:15:18,279 --> 01:15:20,560 the NHL previously, But I think we need to see 1402 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,920 a little bit more, and we need to see more 1403 01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,560 throughout the year and see him evolve and grow, hopefully 1404 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,159 with his off puck game. But yeah, I think that 1405 01:15:30,279 --> 01:15:32,640 he might end up being someone who slides down the 1406 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,319 first round or maybe even to the second round, and 1407 01:15:34,319 --> 01:15:36,359 then you get great value for your fantasy team, because 1408 01:15:36,399 --> 01:15:39,079 I definitely would still be interested if that happens. 1409 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,039 Speaker 3: And let's put him up in the NHL rank king 1410 01:15:43,159 --> 01:15:46,800 Pole against Caleb d Noier and that is going to 1411 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:51,520 be a whitewash for Caleb seventy to thirty percent victor. 1412 01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,000 Is that the way you rank them? 1413 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I probably would in this case. For sure. I 1414 01:15:57,319 --> 01:16:01,079 was super impressed with Danoyer at the Prospects game. He 1415 01:16:01,279 --> 01:16:04,520 was p and I talked about it on most recent podcast. 1416 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:09,560 He was with Mysa and Martone, and for I would 1417 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,920 say most of the time was more impressive to me 1418 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,399 than either of those two. Either of those two had 1419 01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,920 their moments, but day Orne was more consistently the play driver. 1420 01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:22,239 And he certainly looks like a center. He certainly looks 1421 01:16:22,279 --> 01:16:26,079 like he's got NHL capability written all over him. So 1422 01:16:26,119 --> 01:16:28,199 that means he's going to get in the draft because 1423 01:16:28,199 --> 01:16:30,840 of that, probably maybe not higher than those two, but 1424 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,840 just higher than maybe he would have if he was 1425 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,560 a winger. And I think that he's got really great potential. 1426 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,359 Will be interesting to see the rest of how the 1427 01:16:38,399 --> 01:16:40,079 rest of his year goes. That it's not a great 1428 01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:43,279 year for the queue overall, but he looks awesome and 1429 01:16:43,279 --> 01:16:46,840 I would definitely rather have him than Yvon Riapkin, who 1430 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,800 have a lot more questions about, and not just the 1431 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,560 Russian factor, but just his off puck game, his ability 1432 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,840 to play in the NHL consistently and produce at a 1433 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,479 pro level. I haven't seen enough of that yet. 1434 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,560 Speaker 3: All right, Victor and Michael k up Poonit has this 1435 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,319 to say. Skating elusive in the offensive zone, a force 1436 01:17:05,359 --> 01:17:11,520 and transitions, whether charging forward or backtracking, amazing acceleration and agility, 1437 01:17:12,239 --> 01:17:15,840 passing and handling a genuine power play. Special is capitalizing 1438 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,000 on the extra time and space that comes with the 1439 01:17:18,039 --> 01:17:22,760 man advantage. Elite passer with exceptional vision, primary station on 1440 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,039 the midwall or the goal line, shooting quick deceptive shot 1441 01:17:27,119 --> 01:17:30,239 allows him to score in multiple ways. Skillfully changes shooting 1442 01:17:30,279 --> 01:17:33,199 angles to navigate pucks through traffic, making him a threat 1443 01:17:33,319 --> 01:17:36,680 anywhere on the ice, not a primary weapon. Complements the 1444 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:42,439 playmaking skills Advanced Hockey IQ understands the game, which distinguishes 1445 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,600 him on the ice as he's able to make quick, 1446 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,000 intelligent decisions for checking. He's got to show that same 1447 01:17:48,039 --> 01:17:50,680 intensity on five as he does on the man advantage 1448 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,720 and become more physical. Doesn't contribute on the PK. All 1449 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,479 the makings of an offensive powerhouse, but he's got to 1450 01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,520 become more of a well rounded player for the two 1451 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:05,119 hundred foot game. So the best asset, savvy forward, outstanding skater, 1452 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:08,840 real threat in the open ice, highly intelligent. The biggest 1453 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,039 concern work on those fifty to fifty puck battles in 1454 01:18:12,039 --> 01:18:16,159 physicality and sense of urgency away from the play and 1455 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,720 the outcome is Puniti is definitely a first line player 1456 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,199 here as a potential with the skill and the pedigree 1457 01:18:24,239 --> 01:18:28,399 to do it. Fiftieth percentile, he could become a impactful 1458 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:33,640 NHL top six forward. So that is comparable of Mitch 1459 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:38,239 marner Oo, a Memorial Cup champ who's scoring has exploded 1460 01:18:38,279 --> 01:18:41,199 to two power play goals victor in the OHL. He 1461 01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,880 is slated for the low single digits in the draft, 1462 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,680 it seems, is Michael Misa. Guy who's going to go 1463 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,720 in a fantasy lottery this year. Those top six, those 1464 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,640 top eight teams in your fantasy. 1465 01:18:51,279 --> 01:18:54,680 Speaker 4: Draft, I think so. One of the things I like 1466 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,439 the most about Misa is that he is both safe 1467 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,199 in terms of a super high floor, but also has 1468 01:19:01,399 --> 01:19:04,720 some dynamic skill and considerable points upside. And that isn't 1469 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,840 those things that both those things aren't always true for players, 1470 01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,479 and you might be super safe but not have as 1471 01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:14,039 much other skill. But I really like him. He showed 1472 01:19:14,079 --> 01:19:16,279 that he can play a depth role on a championship 1473 01:19:16,279 --> 01:19:18,359 team last year with Saganaw He was asked to do 1474 01:19:18,399 --> 01:19:20,840 that and he did it phenomenally well. He almost didn't 1475 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,000 notice him at times just because he was just doing 1476 01:19:23,039 --> 01:19:25,319 exactly what he needed to do. He made that team 1477 01:19:25,359 --> 01:19:29,119 so hard to play against. But yeah, he's fantastic. This year, 1478 01:19:29,159 --> 01:19:32,880 he's showing that he can absolutely bring the production in 1479 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,920 terms of points when he is given more of a role, 1480 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,560 and that's great to see. In many ways, he actually 1481 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,920 reminds me of Shane Wright, who was an exceptional status 1482 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,880 player and had some similar pressures from early on. And 1483 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:46,760 one of the things we failed to see from Wright 1484 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,039 was to really a big jump at times, or to 1485 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:54,199 marry those two things, the attention to detail and two 1486 01:19:54,319 --> 01:19:57,079 hundred foot game with the dynamic skill, with the extra 1487 01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,560 in terms of the scoring. We're seeing a little bit 1488 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,239 of that from Shane Wright now in the NHL, which 1489 01:20:02,239 --> 01:20:03,960 is great to see. And I still think he has 1490 01:20:04,079 --> 01:20:06,520 more to give there. But that's what Mesa reminds me of. 1491 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,199 I just love the details of his game. He does 1492 01:20:09,239 --> 01:20:12,239 so many little things, but he still will try some 1493 01:20:12,319 --> 01:20:15,640 really crafty plays and has some more dynamic skill. Plus, 1494 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,840 Michael Misa has elite popping Teddy bears back over the 1495 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,960 boards better than anyone I've seen. 1496 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:28,279 Speaker 3: Absolutely, picker that's what you need to be successful, Victor. 1497 01:20:28,319 --> 01:20:31,640 The NHL ranking poll puts Michael Misa up against Burley 1498 01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:36,439 Catton Berkeley Catton of the Seattle Kraken from last year. 1499 01:20:37,079 --> 01:20:40,119 It comes out to be a major Michael Misa win 1500 01:20:40,319 --> 01:20:42,439 seventy five to twenty five percent. Is that how you 1501 01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:42,840 see it? 1502 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,399 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think so. I like Cadden a lot. I 1503 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:50,319 think he's been pretty phenomenal. The Kracken prospect, who plays 1504 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,840 there in Washington for the Spokane Chiefs, is his production 1505 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,600 has been still really good this year. He's with the 1506 01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,039 captain of that team forty seven points and twenty seven games. 1507 01:20:58,039 --> 01:21:01,000 I still think Cadden's upside is huge, but I do 1508 01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:03,840 like Misa just a little bit more. I like his upside, 1509 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,560 I like his runway, I like his production, the steps 1510 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,239 that he's taken. I don't know that you can go 1511 01:21:08,319 --> 01:21:11,119 super wrong with either of these guys, but I am. 1512 01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,560 I think you're splitting hairs here because I'd be happy 1513 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,720 to have either of these guys on my team, which 1514 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,520 hasn't been true for some of these polls. But I 1515 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,720 definitely think that Mesa's upside is a little bit higher. 1516 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,960 If you just look at his NHL E in the 1517 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,399 Hockey Prospecting Model, it's a little bit higher for Mesa 1518 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:30,119 at this same stage, even though they had in their 1519 01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:33,359 draft season, they both had sixty percent star potential, Cadden's 1520 01:21:33,399 --> 01:21:34,760 went down a little bit. If you look at the 1521 01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,520 pnchle it's higher for Lisa right now, but Cadden peaked 1522 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,520 at the same level, so I think that there's some 1523 01:21:40,199 --> 01:21:44,199 similarities there. So I definitely like Mesa. I think that 1524 01:21:44,279 --> 01:21:46,399 he has a little bit more upside. I like his 1525 01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,600 comps too, Taylor Hall, Alexis Lafrenier. I think that there's 1526 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:53,720 some rhymes there. Jason Spezza Cadden has some. Derek Bisard, 1527 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,920 Sam Reinhardt those are some pretty nice one too, although 1528 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,680 I think he's more of a center, maybe more of 1529 01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,399 the winger vibes. But yeah, I think both these guys 1530 01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,720 are great. But I would would lead mesa. 1531 01:22:04,039 --> 01:22:07,600 Speaker 3: All right, Victor, we will be right back then. To 1532 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:20,479 close up the show, a reminder, our show is brought 1533 01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,399 to you by fan Tracks. You can move leagues over 1534 01:22:22,399 --> 01:22:25,760 to fan Tracks, start new leagues ten different sports you 1535 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:30,199 could be playing. 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