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Speaker 2: I feel like, uh do not much. She came back
Speaker 2: from the party in Montana or you know what could
Speaker 2: be very accurately characterized as did Naali's fishing trip that
Speaker 2: we are just kind of tacked along with.
Speaker 5: Fun. Those are fun trips. I mean I've never man,
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes you go and do things and like
Speaker 5: trips in life and it's like a gauntlet, dude, and
Speaker 5: you look back and you're like, how did I make
Speaker 5: it through? And man, I do a lot of I
Speaker 5: do a lot of like hard work, labor and stuff. Man.
Speaker 5: And I tell you, dude, fishing on those bass boats
Speaker 5: on those lakes up there for like two days straight
Speaker 5: when you're not used to it cause just like the
Speaker 5: movements and stuff like, you're not used to I'm not
Speaker 5: used to standing on a boat for starters. So that
Speaker 5: in getting up at six am after partying and smoking
Speaker 5: h you know, a lot of good herb with these
Speaker 5: guys standing up late at night. We'll get like three
Speaker 5: hours of sleep and then we go fish for like
Speaker 5: eight hours straight, no breaks, you know, on these giant
Speaker 5: lakes and it's like the ocean one day, you know,
Speaker 5: because it's storming basically, And dude, like the endurance. You
Speaker 5: if I would have known like what I was in for,
Speaker 5: I hadn't really been on a bass boat on a
Speaker 5: big lake like that before, So like the yeah, just
Speaker 5: standing there, bro, like holding yourself up all day where
Speaker 5: you're rocking. I it took a lot out of me. Man.
Speaker 5: You get back to the shore, you got the sea legs.
Speaker 5: Dude can't walk. And that was But my point about
Speaker 5: it was it was really hard, dude, like just keeping
Speaker 5: up with the guys and rocking out that because I'm
Speaker 5: not used to it. But it was something the most
Speaker 5: fun I ever had. Bro. I look back on that
Speaker 5: those times, and especially to Urn. You know, it's pouring
Speaker 5: down rain on us the second day and we're going
Speaker 5: like sixteen miles an hour in this lake, dude, on
Speaker 5: this fucking you know, one hundred thousand dollars bass boat
Speaker 5: and just under a poncho. We're sharing a poncho together
Speaker 5: and just catching fish, dude, and just having fun. Man,
Speaker 5: those fishing trips are amazing when you could combine weed
Speaker 5: and fishing trips to together. I mean, not fishing an't
Speaker 5: for everybody. I get it. My wife she's not really
Speaker 5: into the fishing.
Speaker 2: I didn't fish at all. Fish once I did almost
Speaker 2: get taken away by the river when I was Earn
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, we like just went in to like
Speaker 2: get in it. That motherfucker was moving so goddamn fast
Speaker 2: that once. I like, first off, we had to like
Speaker 2: walk sideways to get out there, and then he's like,
Speaker 2: all right, sit on this rock. You know, he's trying
Speaker 2: to tell me how to fucking do this, because like
Speaker 2: they're used to fly fishing and like waiting out there
Speaker 2: and ship, Yeah, my shorts got underwater. They fucking inflated
Speaker 2: like a parachute. And that ship was taking me.
Speaker 5: Was it deep or is it like just like no.
Speaker 2: It wasn't deep where we were at, but like there
Speaker 2: was different like depths and stuff, but dude, it was.
Speaker 2: It was going super fast and it was crazy fucking cold,
Speaker 2: and like the boats were weird. They were like U
Speaker 2: shaped almost with flat bottoms, like they called them like
Speaker 2: drift bows or something, and it's because of like you know,
Speaker 2: the river or whatever. But yeah, dude, it fucking started
Speaker 2: hailing when it was like high seventies out. We're just
Speaker 2: fucking sitting there and it starts fucking haaling. We're like, dude,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is up with this place? It was crazy.
Speaker 5: That that whole area. I haven't really been to Montana,
Speaker 5: but I've been to Wyoming in South Dakota and a
Speaker 5: couple of places out there in Colorado, and dude, some
Speaker 5: of those places out there, it's just so vast and
Speaker 5: open and especially Wyoming, Dude, it was. It was wild.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 5: Uh. Some of the something I like about some of
Speaker 5: the rivers out there, they are kind of like some
Speaker 5: of them are faster moving, but they're like more shallow
Speaker 5: and just different than out here, like you know where
Speaker 5: I'm at, Like mud rivers. Basically you don't really wants
Speaker 5: we swim in them, but you don't really want to be.
Speaker 2: Swimming out here. They're just like creepy, so it would
Speaker 2: be a better discreet. Even the real rivers they're like
Speaker 2: we got, but like.
Speaker 5: They hit somewhere for me. I don't know if it's
Speaker 5: from growing up watching like Westerns and stuff, but it
Speaker 5: does give them that vibe when you look at them,
Speaker 5: you know, you kind of look at them, you're like, man,
Speaker 5: it's kind of especially when I went to Grand Palace,
Speaker 5: Ads and a few other places out there. Dude, don't,
Speaker 5: I can't. I was fucked up the whole trips. That's
Speaker 5: hard for me to remember everywhere we went. But yeah, dude,
Speaker 5: I loved it out that way. I like to go
Speaker 5: to Montana.
Speaker 2: It suck.
Speaker 5: I missed that trip due but life throws your card balls.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I wasn't planning on having a kid like a year
Speaker 5: ago either, so it's part of part of it, dude,
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we rode like in this fuck it like up
Speaker 2: this mountain and ship. It was dope.
Speaker 5: Did you did you smoke any good herb?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: This time no one got their weed out there. We
Speaker 2: were all smoking truck or and my god, he is
Speaker 2: a fucking it just a killer grower, like Jesus.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's cool.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 5: That's somebody I would like to meet. There's a couple
Speaker 5: other guys that are really cool. What all did you
Speaker 5: get to try while you were out there to the smoke?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, so some of the Zombie Maker stuff that
Speaker 2: crank diesel I really liked. Uh The ogs by Zombie
Speaker 2: Maker were the number two, the one of the ones
Speaker 2: that he had. Oh man, it was just killer killer.
Speaker 2: He grows such good fucking like og that just comes
Speaker 2: out so amazing. And I liked this. Uh it was
Speaker 2: p K three. I don't know. It is this like
Speaker 2: purple thing that was super soapy like in a way
Speaker 2: that like usually I don't like, but oh it just
Speaker 2: it hit right with it, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that's awesome, man. Yeah, dude, that's probably the
Speaker 5: most fun is to try other people's buds, you know, uh,
Speaker 5: and just kind of like opening up your mind to
Speaker 5: a different way of doing stuff because like, you know,
Speaker 5: you put so much work into your gardens, you know,
Speaker 5: or your tents or whatever, and like, you know, like
Speaker 5: to be able to like almost get that capture that
Speaker 5: little window into somebody else's world for even if it's
Speaker 5: just like a couple of days fishing or whatever it is.
Speaker 5: Maybe you're I don't I don't have the luxury of
Speaker 5: knowing people like close to me like that. So it's
Speaker 5: not like I can just ride over and be like, yo, dude,
Speaker 5: check out these buds, you know, or like it like
Speaker 5: it is out West and some of the cooler states
Speaker 5: out there, you know. But uh, I do like getting
Speaker 5: together on the meetups and sharing like the buds. That's
Speaker 5: that's so fucking cool, dude. I always feel like I
Speaker 5: always feel like for me though every time I meet
Speaker 5: up it's like the worst time ever. It's like I
Speaker 5: always like after I smoke, like every time I got
Speaker 5: days dry, you know, yeah, it always so like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I told myself, I made a promise to myself this
Speaker 5: next time, I'm going to make sure, dude, And by god,
Speaker 5: I made sure, dude this time. I'm ready this time.
Speaker 5: Let's just put it that way. I wish I could
Speaker 5: tell you guys more. Uh but anyways, Uh yeah, So
Speaker 5: you went out to Montana, you got to druy some
Speaker 5: good bluds. You didn't really fish, but the other guy's fish, right,
Speaker 5: fish did anything?
Speaker 2: Did Nali? Literally fucking fish the whole time? Like so, dude,
Speaker 2: Like I was getting up at six in the morning
Speaker 2: and ship and like hanging out on the on the
Speaker 2: patio and whatnot, you know, like in the morning and
Speaker 2: literally at the first time, I would see Denali every
Speaker 2: morning with him walking out to grab his fucking fishing
Speaker 2: pole and his ship and walk down to the river
Speaker 2: and then they went on the fucking drift boat for
Speaker 2: like five or six hours. Oh yeah, came back and
Speaker 2: he walked straight to his fucking fishing pole and back
Speaker 2: out into the river go fish again. Like he was crazy.
Speaker 5: You know, he he's a mad man. And I don't know,
Speaker 5: I didn't really ask him about how or how or
Speaker 5: why he does it. But dude, in those moments, yeah,
Speaker 5: he's he can go just as hard as uh, you know,
Speaker 5: a young guy or a young guy wherever you want
Speaker 5: to say, uh uh and and stick up there with
Speaker 5: the best of us. I mean he was out there
Speaker 5: on a boat just as long as all of us,
Speaker 5: you know, for those eight hours. So I really he's
Speaker 5: a cock shrunk if you will. But yeah, he it
Speaker 5: amazes me. He's he gets in that zone. And especially
Speaker 5: when it comes to fishing, man, he's just he's on it. Man.
Speaker 5: I love watching him, Dude.
Speaker 2: Do that stuff.
Speaker 5: It's fun. I didn't get the luxury of fishing with
Speaker 5: him last time on the same boat. Next time, oh will.
Speaker 5: But yeah, dude, he's ah, it's awesome to watch, dude.
Speaker 5: You know, to see like one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 5: year old man out there just rocking out, dude. You know,
Speaker 5: you know that's that's I always remember this moment. I
Speaker 5: think it was whatever. The second day we were there,
Speaker 5: you know, we went to sleep and we woke up,
Speaker 5: and uh, I woke up. I walked outside and I
Speaker 5: go and check the grills, dude, and they somebody had
Speaker 5: left the grills. There was like four grills at this
Speaker 5: place where they rented or whatever, and uh, they left
Speaker 5: all the gas grills running all night, dude. And I
Speaker 5: guess it's hooked up to like a gas line. And
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there like, damn, dude, we almost burned down.
Speaker 5: Some people might heard the story already, but I say, damn,
Speaker 5: we could have burnt this whole place down. And I
Speaker 5: look over. The sun just come up and then all
Speaker 5: the slept outside, dude, and it's like, yes, it's barely dark,
Speaker 5: so it's not like fully light out. And I look
Speaker 5: over and he just gets up. I don't think he
Speaker 5: knows I'm there. And he just goes and walks over
Speaker 5: to the doc dude, and it pulls his dog out
Speaker 5: and starts pissing into the water. Dude. It's just like
Speaker 5: the Audibles. It's dead silent, right, and it's just like
Speaker 5: it's not fire holes a fire hose being dumped into
Speaker 5: that lake. No. Sorry, sorry, switch subjects real quick, but
Speaker 5: I haven't been to that nuclear power plant lake, Kyle.
Speaker 5: I think it was. I can't remember my bad I'm
Speaker 5: off the Edibles Bro'. Sorry, sorry missing some of the comments.
Speaker 5: It is the kenne A moment. I don't think that's
Speaker 5: mad and hey, what's up Matt? What's up? Pinzer? Everybody?
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Speaker 5: Uh just watch your buttholes garden if you're god mainly whatever,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm trying to say without saying it anyways,
Speaker 5: did so mont Montana trip was sick, dude.
Speaker 2: Okay, I I came away with seeds too, from like
Speaker 2: some of my favorite stuff that I smoked, So I
Speaker 2: was pretty excited about that. Dude, I got to check
Speaker 2: out some fucking super skunk s one. Wow. I definitely see,
Speaker 2: like immediately smelling it. It was like, oh, I see
Speaker 2: why you know the idea is that there's like super
Speaker 2: skunk in og because it was very much like there
Speaker 2: was a very you know, I guess, noticeable like smell
Speaker 2: in the profile that was like pinpoint, Okay, this is
Speaker 2: a piece of og.
Speaker 5: It smells like.
Speaker 2: You know, And that was pretty fucking cool to check out.
Speaker 5: That's cool. That was awesome when I that that Lake trip, man,
Speaker 5: I there was so many seeds left on the table
Speaker 5: from h and now dude, no one took them. And
Speaker 5: not only did a bunch of groceries and shit, dude,
Speaker 5: like I literally got like four boxes of bacon, but
Speaker 5: I got probably i don't know, like twenty packsation l
Speaker 5: seeds nobody wanted. Like people got a bunch of seeds,
Speaker 5: but like there was just so many that you know,
Speaker 5: there was a bunch left, so I was like, d
Speaker 5: do you want any of these? And he took a
Speaker 5: few and he's like, you just take the rest home
Speaker 5: because I was just a couple hours away, you know.
Speaker 5: So yeah, dude, that's awesome. Man, I was gonna say, Dude,
Speaker 5: I speaking of obviously, Like I don't know the background
Speaker 5: much on this cut, but that one I've been telling
Speaker 5: you about, Dude, it blows my mind because I can
Speaker 5: see we were just talking about that skunk s one.
Speaker 5: I think it was seeing like a piece of it. Uh.
Speaker 5: This cut I got from Michigan. It's just some bullshit
Speaker 5: rec cut, but it's labeled as like Afghany skunk or something.
Speaker 5: I don't know. Supposedly it's a Sam skunk man or
Speaker 5: what ever. Cut. You know, she goes anyway, regardless of
Speaker 5: that bullshit it it looks a lot the way the
Speaker 5: girls and girls a lot like the d more like
Speaker 5: a bush. But the what really blew my mind, dudes,
Speaker 5: the buds were like ugly as fuck. But they the smell, Dude,
Speaker 5: it smelled just like shoreline so much. Dude. Uh it
Speaker 5: it's faded a bit. It's got more of a basement
Speaker 5: smell now. But uh, but when I first took it, dude,
Speaker 5: it smelled so much like shoreline it blew my mind
Speaker 5: and I really enjoyed the dude. It it it. It
Speaker 5: was skunky, dude, but like it was more it had
Speaker 5: like that tin that slight like uh kind of I
Speaker 5: wouldn't say berry, bro It's not like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: it smells like berries, but it's like kind of like
Speaker 5: that that tinge of berry or fruitness to it, but
Speaker 5: not that. But now it's more like a basement smell.
Speaker 5: But it did have that shortline smell too, where to me,
Speaker 5: like for when I grow shortline, it kind of almost
Speaker 5: feels like new sneaker rubber smell. Was like a little
Speaker 5: bit of like I wouldn't say like lemons or nothing
Speaker 5: like that, but some kind of like tinge of that
Speaker 5: just a slight bit of that to that to me
Speaker 5: for me, you know. So I don't know, man, Maybe
Speaker 5: you say it's a little bit different, maybe, but I think.
Speaker 2: I would say that I've definitely gotten those because like
Speaker 2: I feel like it's just like a bunch of layers
Speaker 2: of different smells on each other, you know, And that's
Speaker 2: why it it's very almost confusing to describe because it
Speaker 2: it's kind of personal, not just to how it was
Speaker 2: grown or whatever, like as to what kind of comes
Speaker 2: out more, but also to like the person you know,
Speaker 2: you actually smelling it. Yeahause when some of the last
Speaker 2: shore that I had gotten back in the day before
Speaker 2: getting it before like actually seeing it again, which was
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 2: Seven or eight years something like that, Like it was
Speaker 2: quite a bit in between, uh, I had turned in
Speaker 2: you know, like a it's like a QP into b
Speaker 2: h O because that was the thing at the time.
Speaker 2: And it smelled it was just like the fucking like
Speaker 2: rubber smell there was There wasn't that characteristic like shore smell.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I can.
Speaker 2: See that for sure, as like being part of the
Speaker 2: part of like the layers of the onion that that
Speaker 2: make the whole smell when you're smelling it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's crazy how different stuff comes out of the
Speaker 5: same cuts, and like you know, it's not even like
Speaker 5: some random dude of the forums or YouTube comments. It's like,
Speaker 5: you know, you got the same sing guy or whatever.
Speaker 5: And it's crazy how they can come out different like that,
Speaker 5: you know, based on your style or like even like
Speaker 5: the variegation or the variegrated patterns and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: They're different between grows and stuff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: It's kind of kind of kind of crazy, you know.
Speaker 5: And seeing uh smoking that, I think it was a
Speaker 5: sweet pea, local sweet pea, which is like the stuff
Speaker 5: from the bitter'st P ninety one, which is from that.
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's such a lot. It's crazy, guys.
Speaker 5: I can't keep up with everybody's stuff.
Speaker 2: But hold on, hold on. It is s ones of
Speaker 2: the P ninety one that Matt made. Yeah, that Bitter
Speaker 2: popped and selected two of them and reversed one onto
Speaker 2: the other, and then Lowlo made a selection out of
Speaker 2: that from that.
Speaker 5: There you go, okay, yeah, yeah, so I love that too.
Speaker 5: I'm fucking I got so many cookies, you guys. You
Speaker 5: don't even wanna believe it. I've been this thing magic right,
Speaker 5: was like kind of fool, My bad. We're jumping off
Speaker 5: topics here, but we're down to like the slim pickings.
Speaker 5: But we've been and yeahs, I'm sorry, I keep track. Uh,
Speaker 5: Kyle said Kyle Uh in the comment said, he what
Speaker 5: was it? I forget what you said? The alien vision
Speaker 5: he's been telling me on Instagram. He's been sending your
Speaker 5: message saying he's got something that's super insanely skunky, kind
Speaker 5: of fox Tail like Fox Tailey skunky. But that's awesome, dude. Yeah, man,
Speaker 5: I would I would like to find something really just skunky,
Speaker 5: just rubber skunk, dude. I mean, lately, dude, I've been
Speaker 5: doing a lot of uh gorilla glue. Dude. I just
Speaker 5: like I've been really liking that I got some Kim
Speaker 5: deeve right here. Actually been smoking on it too. Kim
Speaker 5: D's kind of hit or miss for me sometimes, like
Speaker 5: I feel like this was a good run for it,
Speaker 5: a really good run. But I just I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm a huh, well, it's not even that I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think Kim dee will ever really like hit
Speaker 5: the mark for me, like truely, like really when it
Speaker 5: comes down to it, because I like, I think, like,
Speaker 5: for me, at least in my setup right now, the
Speaker 5: way it grows a few other things, I guess, like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean the way it grows. Uh, it's not like
Speaker 5: the most greatest fun thing to trim in the world,
Speaker 5: you know, And some runs it just doesn't perform as
Speaker 5: well even though I'm I do it that I grow
Speaker 5: it the same way, or I feel like I did
Speaker 5: it better, you know, I do think. I think ultimately,
Speaker 5: if I was going to run it some more, I
Speaker 5: think I'd probably switch over to Coco uh and uh
Speaker 5: go from there. You know. I think I think really,
Speaker 5: like if I'm being honest, like all jokes aside, you know,
Speaker 5: I think I'm just a GMO hope, Like I don't know,
Speaker 5: like for me, like I didn't come up in the nineties,
Speaker 5: you know, having access to all these really cool old
Speaker 5: school cuts and stuff, so I can I only got
Speaker 5: like a really small window into stuff. So for me,
Speaker 5: like I mean, obviously, like I like Kim d I
Speaker 5: think I I know that doesn't sound crazy to you maybe,
Speaker 5: but I actually like the ninety one a little bit
Speaker 5: better just for the effects, like uh and the way
Speaker 5: it grows too. I like a little bit more lanky
Speaker 5: and stretches more and the effects for like when you're
Speaker 5: talking about effects at least, I like the ninety one
Speaker 5: more just because it's the only butt that I can
Speaker 5: like consistently smoke, and it just makes me so sleepy.
Speaker 5: And I love that dude, like like that Stoney have
Speaker 5: like trying to fight sleep or or if I can't
Speaker 5: sleep very good, I'm not. I'm a very light sleeper,
Speaker 5: so having that ninety one as a tool, and I
Speaker 5: guess I don't like saying medicinal, but in a way,
Speaker 5: I guess you know, right to help me sleep and
Speaker 5: shit like that. But I'll be honest, like anymore like
Speaker 5: this to Gorilla glue, the like the ninety one big
Speaker 5: D then you knowmo and then like obviously like the
Speaker 5: P work or P ninety one stuff, and I mean
Speaker 5: Bubba and there's a few other things I think that
Speaker 5: feel that that gap for me. But uh yeah, man,
Speaker 5: that's kind of like anymore. I'll be honest, like I've
Speaker 5: just been smoking a lot of the I've smoked a
Speaker 5: lot of kim D. I'll be I did like get
Speaker 5: super paranoid off the kim D a couple of nights ago, dude.
Speaker 5: Uh and in the morning too. The next morning, I
Speaker 5: was smoking a bunch of kim D and it made
Speaker 5: me super paranoid, like, oh man, like something's gonna come
Speaker 5: get me. Dude. You know.
Speaker 2: I like D because not only do I feel like
Speaker 2: it hasn't much more like don't get me wrong, I
Speaker 2: also like ninety one, but and I definitely i'd understand
Speaker 2: the whole like liking growing it because like growing it
Speaker 2: is a lot better, you know, Like yeah.
Speaker 5: But.
Speaker 2: Like man, as far as like the profile, there's just
Speaker 2: so much more going on for me with with D
Speaker 2: and the effects, Like I've they've it fucking it, Like
Speaker 2: it really dumbs me down, and I'd like I feel
Speaker 2: palpably dumber, you know, just like after like two bong
Speaker 2: rips and I'm like, oh shit.
Speaker 5: You know, like that is true. I would say that too,
Speaker 5: because I keep getting tunked and it gets me like, yeah,
Speaker 5: that brain fog of like can't finish my thoughts or
Speaker 5: sentences or like you lost a word, you know, you're
Speaker 5: in the middle of a conversation you go blank for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like, you know, we lead a different
Speaker 2: kind of life style, yeah, you know, like I'm not
Speaker 2: going to the office or having to you know, like
Speaker 2: be working around heavy machinery unless I choose to, you know,
Speaker 2: like so I don't have to be you know, doing
Speaker 2: math a bunch and stuff like that, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: stuff that you might not want to be smoking D
Speaker 2: before fucking do it, you know, Like my friend uh
Speaker 2: works at a in a in a lab, and like
Speaker 2: I get why he doesn't want to smoke any fucking
Speaker 2: d before, Like he literally can't and go to work
Speaker 2: because he will, you know.
Speaker 5: Like that's true. We're spoiled and smoke. I got his
Speaker 5: blaze all day. I'm a bum, dude. So I get it, Like,
Speaker 5: maybe yeah, I haven't I need to go hang out
Speaker 5: with some normal people that don't really smoke that much
Speaker 5: and then like take some of this uh stuff to
Speaker 5: them and see how they react, because uh, I for
Speaker 5: sure when I was hanging out with Ern in Virginia, dude,
Speaker 5: they at the Still Get Together. I was rolling Kim
Speaker 5: Dog blunts and Sour Shoreline and uh, I think it
Speaker 5: maybe even Sean's original cut, and uh that was a blur, Dude,
Speaker 5: I barely remember any of that stuff. We were just
Speaker 5: like blazing. It was so hot too, dude, like one
Speaker 5: of those days, you know. But I was just rolling
Speaker 5: Kim Dog blud after Kim Dog blunt and like just
Speaker 5: passing into these guys and there was like probably fifteen
Speaker 5: people there right, like chicks and dudes, and they were
Speaker 5: all like really baked, dude. You know, we're like hanging
Speaker 5: out on Quiet. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love party ruining and weed.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm just having a blast, you know, because I'm.
Speaker 2: I want to walk into a room and drop a
Speaker 2: hand grenade and fucking walk out, you know where everyone's
Speaker 2: fucking mute after that, just like looking at each other
Speaker 2: in their phones. Yea, not even able to function.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe I'm spoiled. Maybe not everybody like that.
Speaker 6: Last time I met up with local on them, he
Speaker 6: gave me the whole jar, big big jar of the
Speaker 6: sweet piece, Like I just blazed that for like, you know,
Speaker 6: three or.
Speaker 5: Four days and it's probably like a zip or whatever.
Speaker 5: And uh, yeah, dude, maybe I'm just spoiled and don't
Speaker 5: think about it like that. But yeah, he need to
Speaker 5: go hang out with some people and see what they
Speaker 5: they think of it, dude, for sure. Uh but yeah,
Speaker 5: I did know what was the other one, dirty taxi
Speaker 5: or whatever. I did run that one just to see
Speaker 5: what the hoopla is all about. Uh, it's funky, but
Speaker 5: it's like, I, I don't know, I kind of just
Speaker 5: want to grow GMO, you know. It's kind of like
Speaker 5: it's kind of like that with a.
Speaker 2: Lot of a lot of telling me this for the
Speaker 2: past like eight weeks. I know, I've love.
Speaker 5: GMO really do. Just like it's like it's not the best,
Speaker 5: right uh maybe but for me and what I my
Speaker 5: needs and uh my setup and yeah, just the smoothness
Speaker 5: of it all. Like you know, right now, I'm really
Speaker 5: busy and stuff, or I'm more busy, so it's hard
Speaker 5: to be super invested in your garden, right, So like
Speaker 5: for for right now, just some stuff that performs for me,
Speaker 5: I think is like kind of on the menu, I guess,
Speaker 5: so like yeah, just sticking to maybe like the gim
Speaker 5: a little bit longer of a flower, but I think
Speaker 5: it's kind of worth it, dude, because it's kind of
Speaker 5: gives me.
Speaker 2: That I don't even care about flowering time. Really.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: For planning, you know, it's like I want to know
Speaker 2: ranges and stuff like that, you know, like just so
Speaker 2: I could plan accordingly. But I mean, fuck, I still
Speaker 2: have that sixteen week long fucking fire line. I don't
Speaker 2: give a shit, you know, I'm I am momming it
Speaker 2: up right now, out to fucking rock out a motto
Speaker 2: crop a bit because it's dope, you know, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's gonna take a long fucking time. But like I'm
Speaker 2: all right with that. Yeah, you know, like it's worth
Speaker 2: to me, it's gonna be It's I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: it's crazy. It's so outside of the norm. I mean, dude,
Speaker 2: it gets me fucking hard as a rock. It's it's
Speaker 2: like it's so killer and different. You know.
Speaker 5: That, I really been liking this gorilla glue be cut
Speaker 5: I got. I don't know if it's the number four,
Speaker 5: how would I know that? I don't really know, uh,
Speaker 5: DNULLI even liked it a lot when he smoked it. Anyways,
Speaker 5: it's I love the dude because I had like a
Speaker 5: really bad run just because my hvac and stuff went out,
Speaker 5: and uh you know how it goes through in the
Speaker 5: middle of the middle of it.
Speaker 2: And most crucial time, that's when this guy happened.
Speaker 5: Power goes out, storm hits, floods hit you know what. Ever.
Speaker 5: Uh So, yeah, dude, that wasn't the best situation, let's
Speaker 5: just say. And even in that, dude, just they just performed.
Speaker 5: I had two of those plans and they just turned it.
Speaker 5: It just performed, Dude. I don't know how to say
Speaker 5: it more than that, like all around, like weight and
Speaker 5: even in those conditions that still do really well. I'm
Speaker 5: not a weight guy, but like, you know, I don't
Speaker 5: have the biggest grow or nothing in the world, and
Speaker 5: especially nowadays, so I got to really be more cautious
Speaker 5: about not cautious, but more, uh yeah, plan a little
Speaker 5: bit more because I didn't plan before. So now I
Speaker 5: am playing a little bit more just because, yeah, to
Speaker 5: keep myself smoking and so you know. Unfortunately, like yeah,
Speaker 5: like I like effects and I obviously have a couple
Speaker 5: of tenths rolling, so I can do different things. But
Speaker 5: like in my main flower space, I'm mainly just putting
Speaker 5: things in there that are gonna like give me some
Speaker 5: yield of smoke on it, because like, yeah, like I
Speaker 5: don't really have access to that anymore. I can't really
Speaker 5: just go down the street and get bud or whatever. Like,
Speaker 5: it's not like that for me. So it's really up
Speaker 5: to me to keep myself smoking. So when you put
Speaker 5: that into the you know, equation, it changes the way
Speaker 5: you do stuff. Like but that being said, it's depressing
Speaker 5: doing that. I don't like it. So here after this run,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get me a nice little I got me
Speaker 5: a nice little stash, but I'm gonna give me a
Speaker 5: nice little stash lined up, and then I think I'm
Speaker 5: just gonna throw all the cuts I have in the
Speaker 5: fucking trash dude. Now I was playing. I think I'm
Speaker 5: just gonna put them all on the shelf, dude, And
Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna really just buckle down and hunt
Speaker 5: through a lot of this stuff I've made out the
Speaker 5: last couple of years and see what's in that. And then, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, I think every one that does this kind
Speaker 5: of shit, if you make seeds and stuff, it's fun
Speaker 5: Paul and chuck in and stuff like that and doing
Speaker 5: your thing. But I've been wanting to get a little
Speaker 5: bit deeper into it and actually like look through some stuff.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that's where I'm at.
Speaker 2: Man, that's the goal.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like to actually look through because obviously you're gonna
Speaker 2: make some stuff where you're like, hey, there's a space,
Speaker 2: let me feel it, you know, but there's also stuff
Speaker 2: that you're like, I truly think that, you know, this
Speaker 2: will be really cool because if I can get you know,
Speaker 2: A and B to line up, you know, like I'd
Speaker 2: really like i'd really dig that and then actually looking
Speaker 2: for it, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I'm just excited I mean, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I don't remember who it was. Maybe it was Body
Speaker 5: or Caleb or somebody who's talking about having Somebody was
Speaker 5: talking to him about having cuts, and it's like he's like,
Speaker 5: you know, man, it will be coolers if they were
Speaker 5: all your cuts.
Speaker 4: Man or some ship.
Speaker 5: And I'm just like that that kind of hit me
Speaker 5: in a certain way. One day, I'll sit here thinking
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, that's cool having like him and
Speaker 5: things like that, but like it'd be cooler just get
Speaker 5: in there and get just find find something better, dude,
Speaker 5: or cooler, Like yeah, for sure, Like obviously that's what
Speaker 5: Like any breeder, I never can consider myself a breeder,
Speaker 5: so like I don't really think like that really, but yeah,
Speaker 5: like lately I'm just like, man, like, like you know,
Speaker 5: I like this about this for sure, So like, wouldn't
Speaker 5: it be cool to hit everything to GMO? I was
Speaker 5: just kidding, not really really.
Speaker 2: Well, but like looking actually looking for and making those selections.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, yeah, you know the whole As cool as
Speaker 2: things are, they could be cooler. Yeah, that's better. You know,
Speaker 2: like imagine a fucking you know, a sour that has
Speaker 2: a much higher hit rate of actually being fucking just
Speaker 2: dank nasty instead of like yeah it's you know, like
Speaker 2: it's all right, it's cool. I definitely fucked that up though,
Speaker 2: you know, like and it's easy to do. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: you know, that's the goal was.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean to go because there's such cool hybrids,
Speaker 7: you know, and like having you know, I have access.
Speaker 2: To you know, the the cool cuts or whatever. But
Speaker 2: the hybrids have been you know, I'm digging them. I'm
Speaker 2: digging them. They're pretty fucking dope, you know, like they're
Speaker 2: easier to grow. They're in like that mindful direction of
Speaker 2: people who also want it to be better, you know,
Speaker 2: like pull out a version of that cut, you know
Speaker 2: where it's lacking.
Speaker 5: And that's yeah.
Speaker 2: I wish people would easier.
Speaker 5: I wish people like wouldn't get so fixated on the cuts.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I know it's easy for me to say that because
Speaker 5: I got some of them, but I just, uh, I
Speaker 5: think it's a wasted time for a lot of people
Speaker 5: because like, you know, not only you got to get
Speaker 5: one or found one that's legit. I hope that it is,
Speaker 5: or do a lot of research or asking people stuff whatever,
Speaker 5: but like, you know, you are you going to grow it. Well,
Speaker 5: it's old as fuck, like so people's expectations and like
Speaker 5: that allure of some of these cuts, Like to me,
Speaker 5: it's like, I don't know, I call it hype in
Speaker 5: its own way too, It's like, yeah, like some stuff
Speaker 5: really hits the mark right, but if you're not growing
Speaker 5: it right or you know, it's some of that shit
Speaker 5: can be you can grow a bad run of Kim
Speaker 5: D easily. Dude. I feel like, you know, if you
Speaker 5: don't know what you're doing, even myself, like I'm not
Speaker 5: an expert by any means, but it's took to me
Speaker 5: a lot of runs and even I've tried enough people's
Speaker 5: d's pause uh now to know like where I'm at
Speaker 5: kind of on that scale of like growing, and I mean,
Speaker 5: I like it, it's great, but like ideally like for growing,
Speaker 5: I'm about to guys, I'm going to do the research
Speaker 5: for you guys. I'm gonna do some of the undercanopy
Speaker 5: lighting for you guys. I'm gonna do one. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: get one and we're gonna run. And I've kept enough
Speaker 5: track of some of these harvests to kind of know
Speaker 5: where I'm at, especially with something like the Kim d
Speaker 5: for example, so I know where I should be or
Speaker 5: so I can kind of gauge. So we're gonna try
Speaker 5: it out. We're going heck, we might even do some
Speaker 5: CO two out of our buttholes. I'll sit in there,
Speaker 5: just fart gas in there the whole time. You eat
Speaker 5: a bunch of beans and it starts farting.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know, well too, just don't fucking blast it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know Kim Carter is on probation for that.
Speaker 5: Fuck they're gonna take Kim Famis is gonna see this
Speaker 5: and see my GMO ho talk and they're gonna say, dude,
Speaker 5: he's not coming to the parties no more. You know,
Speaker 5: they didn't want me in an auto flower. Dude, calm down, No,
Speaker 5: I was kidding, no, dude. Yeah, man, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I like having a jar of it, you know, that's
Speaker 5: with a lot of these cuts. It's cool, like having
Speaker 5: a jar of It's tight. But I don't know if
Speaker 5: I like. I'm that type of person where I want
Speaker 5: to smoke the same thing like every day. You know,
Speaker 5: really I like to rotate, you know, I don't. I
Speaker 5: don't take enough breaks to really enjoy them. On the
Speaker 5: individual level probably like other people, do, you know, especially
Speaker 5: like maybe like if I have a long day of work,
Speaker 5: like physical work and I'm not smoking that much, or
Speaker 5: I gotta go do some stuff like responsible shit, so
Speaker 5: I can't smoke like I want, like baby, you know,
Speaker 5: birthing classes, things like this. But yeah, I don't know, man,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of I guess everybody has their own jam,
Speaker 5: you know, and it's something works for you, that's that's
Speaker 5: that's cool, you know. I don't know.
Speaker 8: John a GMO, you said it earlier in terms of
Speaker 8: the cuts about how like it's you think you feel
Speaker 8: like it's a waste of time for most people, and
Speaker 8: I definitely.
Speaker 2: Agree with that. I got like extremely lucky two because
Speaker 2: you know, the only cut I ever really wanted was
Speaker 2: sure and like I just so happened to end up
Speaker 2: getting it, you know. But that doesn't fucking happen for
Speaker 2: most people. And it's not like it fucking happened quickly,
Speaker 2: you know. But out of the fucking hybrids of the
Speaker 2: seeds that were readily available, easy to fucking get my
Speaker 2: hands on and grow out, I have found all of
Speaker 2: the things that I love about shore in soeveral different hybrids.
Speaker 2: You know and been able to learn about different cuts
Speaker 2: like the fifty six before I ever got the fifty six,
Speaker 2: you know, just because I fucking grew like fucking five
Speaker 2: or six different fucking fifty six hybrids. You know, like
Speaker 2: I had a real like when I grow it, I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, okay, this is exactly like this is
Speaker 2: pretty much exactly like several of the plants that I've
Speaker 2: already grown and fucking cuts up.
Speaker 5: You know you're gonna hate me, and you know I'm
Speaker 5: probably gonna offend a lot of people out there. But
Speaker 5: I don't care for short Line and I don't understand
Speaker 5: the love for it. To be honest with you, it's cool.
Speaker 5: I've smoked a couple of people's different runs of it.
Speaker 5: I think I've smoked Bitter's version of it. I like it,
Speaker 5: but it's it's just missing like some little key component
Speaker 5: for me, and I don't know what it is. I
Speaker 5: don't care to grow it. It's kind of annoying to
Speaker 5: grow for me. I feel like every time I grow it,
Speaker 5: it's I've been getting smarter. This is another thing too,
Speaker 5: where I've been kind of slimming down when I'm actually
Speaker 5: running because I'm you know, if you're trying to grow
Speaker 5: shore with GMO or anything that stretches a little.
Speaker 7: Bit of I don't know, ninety one, it just starts that.
Speaker 2: They Yeah, it just like it does.
Speaker 9: This thing.
Speaker 5: It's every time i've grown it, it's been a little different.
Speaker 5: Now we'll say something that's super interesting. When I made
Speaker 5: and I meant to say this earlier, I'm really excited
Speaker 5: about looking through some of the I did some of
Speaker 5: the when I did the East Coast Hour Diesel reversal,
Speaker 5: I hit it to kim Dog and I had some seeds,
Speaker 5: and then I made some hit those to like some
Speaker 5: of the peanut butter brush stuff. So I'm gonna look
Speaker 5: into those. But when I ran the some of the
Speaker 5: East Coast work, the shoreline cross or whatever across to
Speaker 5: the shore line, some of those plants do look like
Speaker 5: dead up like shoreline. They smell like shoreline. There was
Speaker 5: one in there, bro, I swear to god, this thing
Speaker 5: probably was gonna go like sixteen weeks or something. Dude,
Speaker 5: I don't know. It was a healthy point. Everything's cool,
Speaker 5: but it stayed down like a bush. I ended up
Speaker 5: just cutting it eventually due because it literally it was
Speaker 5: like everything was else, you know, imagine it's like Bubba
Speaker 5: East Coast Our Diesel, kim D and then some of
Speaker 5: the I think I hated to like some of the
Speaker 5: more hypeie stuff too, so like there's a lot of
Speaker 5: random things in there. But yeah, like it was just was,
Speaker 5: it was never gonna finish. But the other ones they
Speaker 5: looked a lot like shore and smell like it. And
Speaker 5: I still have some of those seeds. I still have
Speaker 5: a bunch of the Shoreline to the kim b X
Speaker 5: or whatever kim DBX. Sorry I can't talk right now.
Speaker 5: The kim DBX, I still gotta give you. They're like massive,
Speaker 5: chunky seeds. I still got a bunch of shit. I
Speaker 5: gotta give you a couple of the guys. I need
Speaker 5: to get everything together. I've been off these edibles, dude,
Speaker 5: I've been I've put on like fifteen pounds daddy mode.
Speaker 5: Oh hell so it's I've been busy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, sorry, Well with sure. For one, I love
Speaker 2: the high or the effects. Yeah, I really dig the
Speaker 2: effects because I get like blasted but not drowsy. It's
Speaker 2: just it's just quite delightful for me. I enjoy it.
Speaker 5: I respect that that cool.
Speaker 2: The smell is not like any like, I don't know, dude,
Speaker 2: there's just something about that, you know, that smell just
Speaker 2: grabs you, you know, and it doesn't I don't really
Speaker 2: smell it in any other flower.
Speaker 5: It's not yet to this cut. I'm gonna meet up
Speaker 5: with you and you're gonna give you this cut and
Speaker 5: you're gonna smell it.
Speaker 2: You go.
Speaker 5: See.
Speaker 2: Oh, dude, I'm down. I'm don It's it's just it's
Speaker 2: not a it's not a profile that's fucking prevalent, you know. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: for sure, there are definite, definite problems with it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: I am uh, you know, just not good at growing it.
Speaker 2: There's no other way to say that. I just can't
Speaker 2: fucking nail it. It just doesn't happen for me. I
Speaker 2: mean I get, you know, a smokable product kind of
Speaker 2: and I get, you know, like I do get a
Speaker 2: really good fucking profile out of it, but like, dude,
Speaker 2: I just don't like it's. Yeah, it's fucking bad. It's
Speaker 2: oftentimes it's like I'm just smoking fucking stigma and like
Speaker 2: leaf material because like I just could not get the
Speaker 2: vast majority of the buds to do any type of setting.
Speaker 5: Just the top ones for me, it was always the
Speaker 5: like so instead of for me it always seemed to
Speaker 5: grow out like four or five six branches. The main
Speaker 5: branches go out from more of a lower point on
Speaker 5: the plant, and then like the top nugs on those
Speaker 5: like they get nice, but like the rest of the
Speaker 5: plant not so much, you know. So you know that
Speaker 5: and the kim D and a couple of the other
Speaker 5: plants for me, on some of the lowers, the way
Speaker 5: I grow obviously it's different for everybody. I usually do
Speaker 5: a lot of topping. I usually I'm like doing some
Speaker 5: kind of training and stuff just because like for me,
Speaker 5: trying to keep my campy and even as possible. And
Speaker 5: you know, if you if you got a lot of
Speaker 5: plants in a small area, you're prone to you know
Speaker 5: obviously PM and things like that. So I try to
Speaker 5: try to keep my shit as level as possible to
Speaker 5: where I keep a nice you know, airflow going across there.
Speaker 5: But yeah, dude, those plants like they're cool.
Speaker 2: The skirts like super aggressively.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did too, some of them, Yeah, all.
Speaker 2: The way up to Usually I just leave like the
Speaker 2: top two nodes, yeah, because I also pack my shit
Speaker 2: in you know, to where like I have a I
Speaker 2: have a lot more plants to be able to, you know,
Speaker 2: make up for the fact that I've stripped pretty much
Speaker 2: everything off pots.
Speaker 5: Do you run on man, and by the way, if
Speaker 5: you do on my masking.
Speaker 2: Well beds until now, I also have two spaces that
Speaker 2: I am running three gallon pots in and I need
Speaker 2: to I want to get into five gals at least,
Speaker 2: you know, five to seven, but like five gallons, I
Speaker 2: don't have to get as much extra soil to build
Speaker 2: them up. So I'll probably go with that and still
Speaker 2: have a significant you know, bump in a mount per
Speaker 2: pot just to help because like the and I want.
Speaker 9: To it to uh two flood tables to put in
Speaker 9: so that because like feeding has been no problem.
Speaker 2: The problem has been with them like once they start
Speaker 2: really fucking raging the three gallons and where they're where
Speaker 2: the actual uh tents are at, like what room they're in,
Speaker 2: I'm like watering a lot. It gets very hard whever
Speaker 2: they're like really raging, you know, to where I'm watering
Speaker 2: like fucking two three times in a day just to
Speaker 2: try and get it back to set point and like
Speaker 2: still trying to have you know, a dry back on it,
Speaker 2: you know, a bit, and it it gets so fucking
Speaker 2: hard to manage with that small of a pot for
Speaker 2: me especially, Yeah, most of the time I'm in like
Speaker 2: so little cups at one gallons until they go into
Speaker 2: a bed, you know, like it's not a fucking big deal.
Speaker 2: And that's you know, seventy fucking gallons of soil in
Speaker 2: each of those flowering spaces that make it way fucking
Speaker 2: easier to manage, you know, like water, I could be
Speaker 2: fucking gone for a week and it's fine.
Speaker 5: You know. Something that I found where I moved back
Speaker 5: up to I was doing a lot of three gallon
Speaker 5: runs and just I was doing that mainly. Where I
Speaker 5: was at I had extra rooms, so like I do
Speaker 5: a little chuck in, but also I was testing on
Speaker 5: cuts just to see if they're worth keeping, you know how,
Speaker 5: Like I've said it many times, I'm not from California.
Speaker 5: I don't have access to a billion cuts. My dad's
Speaker 5: not you know, fucking Greg or whatever. So it's like
Speaker 5: I can only talk about or what I experience or
Speaker 5: maybe and sometimes that might name be accurate, you know,
Speaker 5: with the way that things are in this industry or
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call this fucking hobby but that
Speaker 5: being said, I was testing a lot of cuts just
Speaker 5: to see what they're like, Like I did you know,
Speaker 5: you guys might have like some of your older cats
Speaker 5: might have got the experience shit in the last like
Speaker 5: you know, seven eight years and stuff, but like I
Speaker 5: was like kind of like learning and stuff for that
Speaker 5: during that time and like popping seeds up until literally
Speaker 5: the last couple of years. So it's like I didn't
Speaker 5: really experience cuts of any kinds of like I thought
Speaker 5: to myself, like I need to have an understanding of these.
Speaker 5: So I was doing a lot of stuff in like
Speaker 5: you know, two gallons, three gallons, which it's cool, but dude,
Speaker 5: you're right, it's a bitch you got water every day,
Speaker 5: especially if you're in a dry combent like you know,
Speaker 5: like you are. And then also like, uh, there's a
Speaker 5: pitfall to doing big pots too, because where I'm so
Speaker 5: used to running little pots for so long and basically
Speaker 5: you know, uh, like last brun I did, I probably
Speaker 5: I should have let them veg out for another week
Speaker 5: or two just to kind of like absorb some more
Speaker 5: of that food in the soil and let the roots
Speaker 5: expand a bit more, because I did waste a little
Speaker 5: bit on some of the bigger pots for sure. Also,
Speaker 5: I mean some some obviously some cuts and things like
Speaker 5: that the roots are not as great as the other,
Speaker 5: so that that could be a thing too, But just
Speaker 5: learning that. That's the thing about all the shit is
Speaker 5: like you could grow in the same tent, but if
Speaker 5: you just there's so many variables and different things that
Speaker 5: go into it that can really affect your run. So
Speaker 5: like just getting used to it and dialing it in,
Speaker 5: Like I feel like I'm always like one step ahead
Speaker 5: of myself, you know, I gotta I think. I always
Speaker 5: say this next run, you know, this next run is
Speaker 5: the one.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, think about it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like in any given space, I mean, dude, I'm
Speaker 2: in the same fucking place, in the same house. I'm
Speaker 2: in the same climate that I've literally ever grown in
Speaker 2: my whole fucking pay Yeah, all I did was chain
Speaker 2: rooms and style, not even style, just like the actual
Speaker 2: container that I'm using changed and I've had all sorts
Speaker 2: of fun, you know, like and it just it takes
Speaker 2: It's gonna take a little bit of time with each
Speaker 2: thing until you're like, all right, this is what the
Speaker 2: space wants, you know, and it just takes fucking you know,
Speaker 2: quickest way out is through. You just gotta do it,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, that's why like.
Speaker 10: This next time getting uh you know, flood tables are
Speaker 10: probably bigger pots, so that I'll keep feeding on top,
Speaker 10: no problem, And then I could just butt chug water,
Speaker 10: just throw it fucking you know, two gallons of water
Speaker 10: to add a little you know, a couple of centimeters
Speaker 10: on the bottom, So just fucking suck it up that way,
Speaker 10: and I don't got to deal with it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think, uh yeah, I mean, I think
Speaker 5: that's something I was thinking about not too long ago.
Speaker 5: And I think about shows and different ideas and stuff
Speaker 5: like that. And even though I haven't been making anybody,
Speaker 5: I think about all the time, and I think, like,
Speaker 5: you know, some of these other channels will make like
Speaker 5: the it'll it'll make we look growing good weed so easy,
Speaker 5: you know, and like oh, it's just bobs and like
Speaker 5: as Infinity just sent me this light and all the ship,
Speaker 5: like dude, like it's a lot of work. You know
Speaker 5: a lot of people.
Speaker 2: What a lot I was actually doing.
Speaker 11: It's yeah, yeah, it's simple.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't make it easy because you have to
Speaker 2: actually do the ship, you know, like and then once
Speaker 2: you start at and also the whole. Yeah, if you
Speaker 2: just have your closet or a fucking you know, two
Speaker 2: by two at the fucking corner whatever, your apartment whatever, Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: that is fucking pretty easy here when you're measuring out,
Speaker 2: Like I saw this this new Canon influencer who is
Speaker 2: arising from the fucking.
Speaker 5: Queen's the Dame.
Speaker 2: She's pulling out using a fucking like a sixty or
Speaker 2: one hundred mil syringe to measure water, and it's like,
Speaker 2: oh honey, just wait, so you get those other spaces
Speaker 2: all fucking rocking, you know, like good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's the thing for me when I watch
Speaker 5: that shit, I think, okay, what okay, is there a
Speaker 5: link down at the bottom of this video to Amazon
Speaker 5: affiliate program for that syringe? You know, like that's the
Speaker 5: on of shit. I think to myself, I'm just a
Speaker 5: fucking crusty old man anymore. I watched it, I was like,
Speaker 5: this is just this is just a big respond.
Speaker 2: She's totally doing advertising and like other growers, actual growers,
Speaker 2: because I could tell by the way that the suggestions,
Speaker 2: the things that they're telling her are very normal, and like,
Speaker 2: this is what I would tell any new grower if
Speaker 2: they sent me this picture that or set me this
Speaker 2: video of their grow I would tell you save fucking thing, bro, like,
Speaker 2: you know. And she doesn't react well to some of them.
Speaker 2: Some of the criticisms, you know, some of them are
Speaker 2: just mean, you know, and like I get that there's
Speaker 2: always going to be part of that, you know, but
Speaker 2: a lot of it is like, hey, maybe don't take
Speaker 2: up the whole space with one plant unless you're gonna
Speaker 2: like veget to take up the canopy instead of being
Speaker 2: not even half an ounce, you know, like a finished
Speaker 2: flower for that whole fucking space and time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not a window into their world. That's a
Speaker 5: people bro. No, Yeah, I know. I try not to
Speaker 5: be a hater. I occasionally I'll see some of those
Speaker 5: videos and I'm like, god, dude, especially like in the
Speaker 5: autowall Auto Flower World, I'm like, these get the guys
Speaker 5: that are like the guys, I'm like, they can't even roll.
Speaker 5: They're terrible, you know, like like you know, yellowed out
Speaker 5: tops and all the ship and like before they're even
Speaker 5: in the flower. Like. But I try not to hater, man.
Speaker 5: I try to focus on our shit, you know, cause
Speaker 5: it's like get your money boot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I can't really, you know what I mean, I can't.
Speaker 2: I mean I can't hate on that, you know, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know, there's a point where it's you know,
Speaker 2: like it does suck getting someone who I mean, dude,
Speaker 2: I fucking talked to a dude who's still in a
Speaker 2: nube trap and it's like, brother, I met you like
Speaker 2: six years ago. I fuck, are you still buying this
Speaker 2: stupid shit? You know? Like he finally after like a
Speaker 2: year and a half, came around on that control the
Speaker 2: like the freeze drying weed, fucking humid or whatever bullshit
Speaker 2: that you just put like your plants directly.
Speaker 5: Into sixt or something or something.
Speaker 2: It's like twenty five it's fucking crazy expensive. And I
Speaker 2: told him he was like, oh, what do you think.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think you need that. Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to experience that type of
Speaker 2: freeze dry stuff, like a cheap version of it is
Speaker 2: available where you can just hang dry your buds till
Speaker 2: that initial dump happens and then put it in your
Speaker 2: fucking freezer. Because every freezer on people's refrigerators most of
Speaker 2: the time are frost free freezers that'll do the same thing.
Speaker 2: You don't got to pay a crazy amount of money.
Speaker 2: It's kind of cool, you know, but like it is
Speaker 2: what it is. You it's definitely a you get a
Speaker 2: lot better result from just learning how to properly dry
Speaker 2: and story you know.
Speaker 5: Like paper bag contractors. That's all you need, dude, it's
Speaker 5: all you needs.
Speaker 2: Like there's so many there's there's normal ways to do
Speaker 2: it that don't cost a crazy amount of money. No,
Speaker 2: you can just hang it up to dry and just
Speaker 2: like after two weeks that's when you start cutting buds
Speaker 2: off to smoke and do that. You'd probably have a
Speaker 2: better fucking experience of what was you know, like people
Speaker 2: try and all these crazy water tears and shiit. But
Speaker 2: like he finally did come around to the whole. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the scantrel is just kind of like an expensive ass
Speaker 2: thing and I get pretty much the same quality added jars.
Speaker 5: It was like, give me that money, give Chuck the money.
Speaker 5: I will, I will buy a floh hoood, I will
Speaker 5: learn TC guys, let's go get me. You know, I
Speaker 5: watch these guys and I'm like, man, like what the fuck?
Speaker 5: What the another product is that maybe we shouldn't say
Speaker 5: their name, uh, but the the tissue Culture kit, the
Speaker 5: micro one dudes, like two grand dude. Someone was talking
Speaker 5: about the discord and I was like, man, like I
Speaker 5: looked into it a little bit crazy research.
Speaker 2: Them from the we'll say popular nutrient brand.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, dude, So if you go in and look
Speaker 5: on like the dude the content creators that were doing
Speaker 5: videos on it then editing, and most of them didn't
Speaker 5: finish up, like follow up the video to show their results.
Speaker 5: They just did like this is what you do. But
Speaker 5: like it's just a rip off, dude. A lot of
Speaker 5: that stuff anything with Canon slapped onto it, right, you're
Speaker 5: paying more for it anyways. But it's like those products
Speaker 5: are so gimmicky, bro, Like you're talking. It's like it's
Speaker 5: this little bitty thing. It's not really probably even want
Speaker 5: to actually function properly and do what it needs to do.
Speaker 5: And it's obviously just like a money grab for people
Speaker 5: that do just watch YouTube videos.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of like the whole economy now. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's all everywhere you look, you know, it's like this
Speaker 2: same fucking pyramid scheme ship that was sold to our
Speaker 2: fucking moms. Yeah, it's that same exact level of fucking
Speaker 2: that we're being fucking sold when you know which I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 11: You know, like if I if I made grow book,
Speaker 11: it'd be like fucking seven pages, you know, seven or
Speaker 11: ten pages, because like it, I mean, in all reality,
Speaker 11: it's pretty fucking simple, all the normies.
Speaker 2: You just gotta do the things. You know, Like two
Speaker 2: of those pages would be just like pest and pathogen stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, like because I mean in reality, everything in life,
Speaker 2: it's pretty fucking simple. You just gotta do it, dude,
Speaker 2: you know, like and you will learn over time and
Speaker 2: with experience of failing repeatedly at something. Uh yeah, it'll
Speaker 2: work at some point, you know, Like you just gotta
Speaker 2: brutal even if you're fucking starting. I did not start
Speaker 2: off well with Growing Weed.
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's really a great spot.
Speaker 2: Now, but like I was fucking drrible, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, you know, like and I got I
Speaker 2: just brute forced it. You just gotta keep on going.
Speaker 5: There was a dude, when I first started up again,
Speaker 5: like actually legitimately growing I had like a tent and
Speaker 5: like a proper light. The best thing I you know,
Speaker 5: I would consider like my legit start. I got some
Speaker 5: seeds from maybe Seedsmen or something, and they were either
Speaker 5: purple diesel or black diesel bro I can't remember, and
Speaker 5: I have a picture on it out of my old
Speaker 5: hard drive, but I filled out of four by four
Speaker 5: with these plants, and dude, to this day, that shit
Speaker 5: was still like the most dieselly, easy grow, massive chunger,
Speaker 5: and that was like one of my first grows. Dude,
Speaker 5: I wish I got more of those seeds. I'm an idiot.
Speaker 5: I just assumed that, you know, like everything's good, you know,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, this is great, then think nothing of it.
Speaker 5: I still have some of those, not those particular diesel seeds,
Speaker 5: but but yeah, I do remember remember that, and it
Speaker 5: hit that that particular grow brought me into I had
Speaker 5: a grow buddy that I was in the Pokemon dude,
Speaker 5: and we were like in the Pokemon cards and flipping
Speaker 5: cards and doing all kinds of weird shit. Not Pauls,
Speaker 5: not like that kind of weird shit, but you know, uh,
Speaker 5: but we kind of met through that and he was
Speaker 5: like showing me like genetics and seeds, and he got
Speaker 5: me into my first HLG. Actually, I still got that
Speaker 5: light that he gave me in a trade.
Speaker 2: But anyways, HLG slut, I like it better than the
Speaker 2: I have a fucking hl G six fifty and then
Speaker 2: literally right fucking next to it, fucking Gavita seventeen e
Speaker 2: the like bar led and stuff I like to the eye,
Speaker 2: which I know doesn't like mean a lot. The fucking
Speaker 2: HLG puts out a lot nicer light, just like appeasing.
Speaker 2: But I look in there, which is nice. But maybe
Speaker 2: it's just because I'm accustomed to hlg's now, because like
Speaker 2: I've been rocking them for fucking almost seven years now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And like maybe it's because like I've kind of I've
Speaker 2: really dialed down, like using the dial and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: Like and how I use an HLG or the Gavida
Speaker 2: is like way fucking different. It's got this programmable bullshit,
Speaker 2: like it's got a lot more going on with it.
Speaker 2: So like there's also that and anytime the power goes
Speaker 2: out or that circuit gets broke or whatever, the fucking
Speaker 2: the HLG will just go back on whenever the fucking
Speaker 2: pin time or you know, like work, the Gavida doesn't.
Speaker 2: It was off for like two days before I realized,
Speaker 2: oh shit, this motherfucker has been going on, like reprogram it.
Speaker 5: You know that I got a couple of fans, some
Speaker 5: of the Hurricane fans that do that or that turn
Speaker 5: off I'm like, fuck, so you gotta like turn them
Speaker 5: back on people. A lot of the guys like pezz
Speaker 5: in them. In the discord, they talk about the floor
Speaker 5: flexes or whatever. You know, I haven't. I thought about
Speaker 5: trying one out, but it's kind of like you said,
Speaker 5: I'm just used to I'm used to the hlg's or
Speaker 5: the Mars Hadros. If I wanted like a cheap light
Speaker 5: for some bullshit, you just get to Mars just because
Speaker 5: they're I mean, they work for me, and I don't
Speaker 5: have to.
Speaker 2: Work most LED companies. Now, you know, you can get
Speaker 2: a very easy to like approach base model from most
Speaker 2: companies that will do most most people fine. Y And like, honestly,
Speaker 2: if you were like a brand new grower rocket, like
Speaker 2: an h l G six fifty, you're probably gonna kill
Speaker 2: your plants, you know, Like, so it does take you know,
Speaker 2: I definitely think you you know, there's some there's some
Speaker 2: something about having that much power available to you, Like
Speaker 2: you don't really know how to wield it is one thing.
Speaker 2: I think that's why everyone fucking a bunch of dudes
Speaker 2: talk like about the whole like HPS versus LED debate thing.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it is just not being
Speaker 2: able to like compensate, like, yeah, it is a new
Speaker 2: light and it like behaves differently, and you got it,
Speaker 2: because even between these two fucking LEDs, they behave very
Speaker 2: differently and they have to compensate differently for the fucking covito, which,
Speaker 2: like I'm acknowledging, might be why I like the fucking
Speaker 2: HLG more. But you know, functionally, at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, why would I not rocking HLG, you know,
Speaker 2: like I'm probably gonna replace, you know, give this light
Speaker 2: to my friend who has let me borrow it, and
Speaker 2: fucking get another HLG six fifty to run in there.
Speaker 2: Because they're nice, We're good on you know. I do.
Speaker 5: I do think they make the best buds out of
Speaker 5: all the lights that I've tried over the ears. I
Speaker 5: do think they make the best buds for sure. I
Speaker 5: do think though you can grow great bud with like
Speaker 5: just a cheap Mars. Like It's not like I mean,
Speaker 5: for me, at least you know comparing I got a
Speaker 5: couple of the bigger HLG lights over the years, and
Speaker 5: I mean I do think there is like a noticeable difference.
Speaker 5: But I also have had runs where I'm like, you know, man,
Speaker 5: like this this one over under the Mars Hadro in
Speaker 5: the eight bite in this corner, it's just as big
Speaker 5: or dank or whatever gave me more weight or you know,
Speaker 5: over time, I've we're in the same cuts under these
Speaker 5: different lights, and I do I would say for sure
Speaker 5: like the hlg's are are better. I just think that,
Speaker 5: you know, for a new grower, if you're not if
Speaker 5: you're not in this ship to do it for real,
Speaker 5: for real or do it for a while, you know, investing.
Speaker 5: You know, nowadays, the cheapest like light I think was
Speaker 5: like seven eight, nine hundred to one thousand dollars to
Speaker 5: one thousand bucks for HLG light if it's even in stock.
Speaker 2: So it's a service for like six fifty Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I got my six hundred or my six
Speaker 2: fifty for like six hundred and thirty to six hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty bucks.
Speaker 5: Shift. Yeah. The problem is is, like you know, you
Speaker 5: could easily get on a Black Friday, you could get
Speaker 5: four or four of those lights, you know, three or
Speaker 5: four lights to fill out like an eight byte or
Speaker 5: ten by ten uh well hundred, one thousand dollars one
Speaker 5: thousand bucks, you know basically, But it's what it's. It's
Speaker 5: one of those things that's like some people like swear
Speaker 5: by certain lights and for sure like obviously the more
Speaker 5: money a lot of times, not a lot of times,
Speaker 5: but some of these lights, like the ahlg's worth the money.
Speaker 5: But it's also like a like I said, like, I
Speaker 5: don't know, I don't know if I would choose to like,
Speaker 5: out of all things to get right, I don't know
Speaker 5: if I would uh spend that much money on a
Speaker 5: light to start off, if I just got a ten
Speaker 5: or two yah, I would make other things spend that money.
Speaker 5: And then if I say, you know, I really like
Speaker 5: this or I do really well with it and kind
Speaker 5: of understand what it's like to deal with, you know,
Speaker 5: four hundred to four fifty four sixty or whatever it
Speaker 5: is they are now there's four sowenty five in that
Speaker 5: range of watts max, like the hl are the Mars Hydro.
Speaker 5: I think it's like a four fifty or four I
Speaker 5: can't remember ever remember for I think it's a four
Speaker 5: fifty four twenty. I don't really know, But it's not
Speaker 5: so much power that you turn in some max's kind
Speaker 5: of destroy everything. Uh but yeah, but then this again,
Speaker 5: if you're one of these guys that has the money
Speaker 5: and or girls whatever and care to spend the money,
Speaker 5: and you want to start off cockstrong, then yeah, get
Speaker 5: get one.
Speaker 2: If you're one of the people who buys like really
Speaker 2: good tools because you know, like I'm going to use
Speaker 2: the fuck out of this thing, and I want to
Speaker 2: use the same one forever, then yeah, get an HLG.
Speaker 2: But understand that it is a lot of power, and
Speaker 2: I don't I mean, I if I run it, if
Speaker 2: I run it at one hundred percent, it's only for
Speaker 2: like a week maybe two on something that's like a
Speaker 2: little bit longer. But you do not want to just
Speaker 2: rocket full power and I run min into the to
Speaker 2: the ceiling. I don't ever crazy or lower it, none
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 5: Ship. Yeah, you know, it depends on what you're doing
Speaker 5: in your space too, right, because say like say you
Speaker 5: are want to do a little pollen chuck in or
Speaker 5: maybe you're you you need isolated tens. Maybe not for
Speaker 5: contamination necessarily because it's kind of impossible in a room.
Speaker 5: But like say you just you got different things going.
Speaker 5: Maybe you got auto flowers, maybe got some longer flowerings
Speaker 5: or whatever shorter like however you're doing it, like there
Speaker 5: might be a power restraint where like, you know, if
Speaker 5: you feel every tint you got like a seven hundred
Speaker 5: wide light and you're trying to run that, you know,
Speaker 5: it might not work for you if you're on like
Speaker 5: a you can't bump up your power if your circuit's
Speaker 5: someone oh so many amp or amps, you know, so
Speaker 5: you need to be careful because it's like, yeah, like
Speaker 5: it might serve you better just to get a bunch
Speaker 5: of like cheaper lights just because yeah, they only go
Speaker 5: to like four or something. And like cause yeah, like
Speaker 5: you said, you're not you can you can run your
Speaker 5: lights half power too, and I'm not an electrician or
Speaker 5: it might be better to do that. I don't really know,
Speaker 5: but at the end of the day, like, yeah, it
Speaker 5: just depends on what you're doing. But you can't like
Speaker 5: I always have like the HLG lights reserve for like
Speaker 5: stuff that I'm going to smoke, you know for sure,
Speaker 5: you know, like if I'm you know, wanting to do
Speaker 5: a good d pause run or something, you know, or
Speaker 5: if I really wanna h if I was gonna take
Speaker 5: pictures and want it stuff to look really good, yeah,
Speaker 5: I probably would rock under this particular hlgo. This light
Speaker 5: that's on next to me is an HLG. It's going on.
Speaker 5: This is probably seven probably closer to eight years old,
Speaker 5: and it's been going for that long. So it's it's
Speaker 5: more of like the like a flowering spectrum or whatever
Speaker 5: you call it, a red spectrum. It's not great for everything.
Speaker 5: It does ved stuff decently, but you know, uh, but
Speaker 5: that being said, like you get in the right state,
Speaker 5: like in Michigan, dude, there were so many grows going
Speaker 5: out of business and stuff you could find good great deals.
Speaker 5: You know. Uh, you know, you gotta be careful of
Speaker 5: that shit because or at least make sure you clean
Speaker 5: it really well before you're bringing in. And I know
Speaker 5: some of the older old school dudes are like, dude,
Speaker 5: this is basic shit. But we got I literally get
Speaker 5: messages every couple of days of being like dude to
Speaker 5: when you're gonna do a new podcast. You started watching
Speaker 5: blah blah blah, so we got new people that watch you.
Speaker 5: So like I do think it's important to express a
Speaker 5: little bit of caution with some of the stuff because like, hey,
Speaker 5: you don't just bring in a grow equipment, especially like
Speaker 5: air duct equipment anything like that. But like a light,
Speaker 5: you know, you can clean off a light pretty easily.
Speaker 5: And but in Michigan, dude, especially like on Facebook or
Speaker 5: Craigslist or whatever, these places or even like they had
Speaker 5: like individual auction sites like for that shit they like
Speaker 5: in town. People would tell me about I forget the
Speaker 5: site's name, but there would be growth going out of
Speaker 5: business and wreck facilities whatever, all these things, and you
Speaker 5: could get really great deals. I just don't have the
Speaker 5: patience to sit around bidding on ship. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: not like less. It's some seeds, right, Speaking of seeds,
Speaker 5: I got some of the Kim Dog p from H
Speaker 5: and L. Man. I didn't get a bunch of packs.
Speaker 5: There was only a few packs left, so I just
Speaker 5: got a pack or whatever, like a loser. But yeah,
Speaker 5: but I go, yeah, nice, Yeah, I'm excited for those.
Speaker 5: I'll pop some of those probably here soon. I got
Speaker 5: a lot of my own stuff going on, like I said,
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna move into popping seeds again. I miss it. Dude,
Speaker 5: that Easter egg hunt. I know we're jumping over topics
Speaker 5: and stuff, but that's the Easter egg hunt vibes of
Speaker 5: Pokemon vibes, I don't know, trying to get a shiny
Speaker 5: rare dog, you know, are trying to have fun and expore. Dude.
Speaker 2: I truly think that people would be quite astonished what
Speaker 2: they can find in seeds because the seed all time
Speaker 2: people talking about, oh fucking don't even buy the buying seeds.
Speaker 2: It's like, bro, if you you know, like, I think
Speaker 2: that speaks more to the seeds that you purchased and grew. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, cause like wow, especially some of these packs
Speaker 2: where like stuff just fucking lines up perfectly, you know,
Speaker 2: like that original sin. I haven't seen one that sucked.
Speaker 2: You know, everyone's been a fucking killer. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: there's there's stuff that just I don't know, and that
Speaker 2: I for what has stood the test of time. I
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of stuff that you could very
Speaker 2: easily find that would at least be as valuable to
Speaker 2: like hold up, you know, to like hold for a
Speaker 2: while and stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we should jump over the comments. I keep
Speaker 5: forgetting we're even love, brother. I keep for I'm fired.
Speaker 5: My bad guys. I appreciate jumping it in Kyle, a
Speaker 5: few other people Pinzer and stuff. Appreciate you guys listening.
Speaker 5: And I don't think we got any questions. If you
Speaker 5: got questions and didn't get him answer to get them
Speaker 5: in now, I'm not bad. I'm paying attention. Now I forgot,
Speaker 5: I'm fired, I got I got edibles in my system.
Speaker 2: Here's any val. Here's a not really a question, but
Speaker 2: a co from Kyle Kates. I love my beds, but
Speaker 2: I missed the flexibility of pots. When I expand this space,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a room for pots totally. Like that
Speaker 2: is one thing that I think people forget, like when
Speaker 2: I or at least forget to like keep in mind
Speaker 2: when they're talking about beds, like when you get them
Speaker 2: in there, that's it, bro Like they're in there until
Speaker 2: they're done, so you better, you know, like prepare for it.
Speaker 2: And it does suck in not being able to like
Speaker 2: move stuff around because even within the same you know,
Speaker 2: like running the same cut, sometimes you'll have like one
Speaker 2: of those clones just wasn't as fast as the others,
Speaker 2: and it's like, damn, I wish I could just you know,
Speaker 2: like this, it would be fine if I could just
Speaker 2: get it to come up a little bit more, and
Speaker 2: you don't, and then it ends up getting fucking swallowed
Speaker 2: at the canopy completely, you know, like it snucked out
Speaker 2: that that is a problem that you run into it. Bits.
Speaker 2: I love them, but there are practical reasons why people
Speaker 2: don't run them.
Speaker 5: Dog, I'm in a conundrum right now. I'm thinking to myself, like,
Speaker 5: I think I need a double net my shit this time, dude,
Speaker 5: because I had ship falling over all over everything. Dude.
Speaker 5: Last time I even net, I netted already, I netted one.
Speaker 5: I should have did a double net because everything is
Speaker 5: stretched so much, dude. I wasn't used to like to
Speaker 5: stretch in the bigger pots, you know, and uh, obviously
Speaker 5: good god, dude. Like I mean, I don't really want
Speaker 5: to share too much details about it, but long story short, eye,
Speaker 5: I got, yeah, a lot of yield on a lot
Speaker 5: of these plants, and I was just like, dude, what
Speaker 5: the fuck? So so you know I'm in there chopping
Speaker 5: nets and bullshit. You know, I think it was Bitter
Speaker 5: that told me about the plastic nets and you switch
Speaker 5: over there. I switched to those cop I've been using
Speaker 5: like the uh like reusable nets, which I don't even
Speaker 5: like reasoning those because it's like, dude, you know, he's
Speaker 5: spraying fucking sulfur and things. But like and I do
Speaker 5: have uh, like three four hundred foot of the like
Speaker 5: four foot I think it's like nylon or something, but
Speaker 5: that stuff splits and shit weird if you use a knife.
Speaker 5: I like to burn it so it doesn't. But he's
Speaker 5: he was showing me those uh, those plastic ones that
Speaker 5: are almost like just like a plastic mesh thing. I
Speaker 5: need to switch to that, but that shit's more expensive, dude,
Speaker 5: you know, it's all it's all money, you know, it's
Speaker 5: a lot of I.
Speaker 2: Use fishing line and just like weave it. It's super simple.
Speaker 5: I thought about doing that, but man, like like in
Speaker 5: a in an eight byte for example, if it's not automated,
Speaker 5: like you got to get in there. So it's like
Speaker 5: so like this time, I.
Speaker 2: Think that is something with the fucking whipid net. They
Speaker 2: also kind of end up locked at it at a
Speaker 2: certain point they're there, Yeah, no, that's.
Speaker 5: This is why I'm this is why I'm gonna not
Speaker 5: do like one of the four were about fours. I
Speaker 5: know it's a waste, but I got a dehumidifier and
Speaker 5: a bigger fan. So this time I'm just gonna focus
Speaker 5: more on like three corners of the eight by eight
Speaker 5: I guess there are three four by fours essentially, uh,
Speaker 5: and focusing on that and train more and that way
Speaker 5: I can just really hone in and make sure they're
Speaker 5: getting what they need because I feel like I lost
Speaker 5: a little bit just from you have them falling over
Speaker 5: that last week or so, you know, and then you're
Speaker 5: always running that risk of you know, rod or molds
Speaker 5: or whatever too. So, Uh, this time I'm gonna do
Speaker 5: a little bit different, and I have, like I said,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of like, I mean, this last couple of
Speaker 5: well last year and a half specifically found the ones
Speaker 5: that really pant form for me. And maybe they don't
Speaker 5: get the respect from the hitty guys, you know, but
Speaker 5: between like some older cuts and some of the newer ones,
Speaker 5: I found the stuff that works for me, you know,
Speaker 5: like I said, like GMO and the g grill of
Speaker 5: glues and uh what else. I'm high right now, bro,
Speaker 5: But yeah, I've just I've been rocking out with those.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm man I think I'm gonna automate a
Speaker 5: little bit this time, just because, uh, you know, I've
Speaker 5: got a lot of stuff going on with my personal
Speaker 5: life right now, so uh, you know, I don't why
Speaker 5: to get away from the garden as much as I
Speaker 5: need to, just because, like, yeah, I like to stay
Speaker 5: in tune with it, but sometimes life gets in the
Speaker 5: way and you gotta do what you gotta do. So
Speaker 5: like this next run is kind of a just to
Speaker 5: keep my head down and get through it and get
Speaker 5: some smoke. And then I think I'm gonna get back
Speaker 5: to popping seeds, like I said, and especially specifically popping
Speaker 5: my own stuff, but like going through like the fridge, dude,
Speaker 5: Like there's so much shit. We make jokes all the time,
Speaker 5: but like, yeah, going through the fridge and getting some
Speaker 5: stuff out and finally popping them. You know, I bought
Speaker 5: stuff for a reason, so it's like you need to
Speaker 5: pop it before it goes bad. And I turned into
Speaker 5: this crusty old man thinking I got a fortune, but
Speaker 5: it's all like bad seeds, you know, pop right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: betray all my best friends at eight years old, and
Speaker 5: you know, really stick it to him for you know,
Speaker 5: a couple of grand you know, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Gotta pop a bunch of stuff too, just to like
Speaker 2: refill the ranks. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: gotta fucking build these soldiers back up.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Buck asked what was the most old resistance train
Speaker 5: you grew in Michigan? Uh, I know you've recommended that
Speaker 5: one guy that had some Ki kim work, I think
Speaker 5: and stuff. I never ended up picking up him some
Speaker 5: seats from him. But what's that there's a crew up
Speaker 5: there or a bunch of dudes. I don't know much
Speaker 5: about these guys. Outside of pure Michigan and a couple
Speaker 5: of those other cuts, there are stuff in particular that
Speaker 5: did good. What was it? Some of the stuff they
Speaker 5: got it? I can't remember, bro, give me a second.
Speaker 5: I don't think here, I don't know. But one of
Speaker 5: the other cuts I remember in particular was like the
Speaker 5: UB forty I think it was, which is like, maybe
Speaker 5: that's the pure Michigan cross. I can't remember specif diff
Speaker 5: that one did good? Older stuff. Trying to think, really,
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of apple like Hanel stuff always
Speaker 5: seems to do really good. You know, when I asked
Speaker 5: him what he thought would do good? Was I think
Speaker 5: the stoneape, the gorilla glue cross. I think it was
Speaker 5: that gorilla glue that I got from up there. Dude,
Speaker 5: I really like it. It's that in particular. It's I think
Speaker 5: I've got like a little spec a PM on it
Speaker 5: one time, but I've ran it three or four times.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen nothing on that in Vede or flower
Speaker 5: that one. That one was really good, honestly, like Gary Payton.
Speaker 5: I know it sounds lame, but that Gary Payton cuts
Speaker 5: it run. It doesn't really seem like it wants to
Speaker 5: mold out. Which that inside right, you know, they take
Speaker 5: it outside will probably turn the ship. You know a
Speaker 5: lot of those modern hypeie things will turn the ship outside. Uh.
Speaker 5: But trying to think what else did really good out there?
Speaker 5: Super boof, I know you probably do want hear that,
Speaker 5: but Supermoove, those kinds seem to do really good and
Speaker 5: up there and and here. They don't give me problems.
Speaker 5: Kim Deeven to the extent, doesn't seem like it wants
Speaker 5: to do real bad. I haven't grown that outside though.
Speaker 5: I did veg it outside for a little bit, but
Speaker 5: I ended up I ended up moving and stuff. So
Speaker 5: I cold a lot of stuff. But I know Hil
Speaker 5: said some of the Kim stuff doesn't do good for him,
Speaker 5: but the the some of the Kim stuff did fine
Speaker 5: for me, especially indoors obviously. But you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't really like talking about that kind of stuff
Speaker 5: really because it's like somebody hears that and they think,
Speaker 5: oh God, like these cuts are mold out or whatever.
Speaker 5: But it's like, at the same time, a lot of
Speaker 5: most when I was talking about stuff, I'm talking about indoors,
Speaker 5: but like I'm went up there, especially where I was
Speaker 5: dealing with a large number of plants, So it's like,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm dumping large volumes of water into these
Speaker 5: small spaces. So it's not like ideals that you for
Speaker 5: that type of stuff. So you know, somebody that just
Speaker 5: running a tent running some of these cuts might find
Speaker 5: better or different results, right, it's hard to say. Uh,
Speaker 5: I think it's that's the thing, right, you got to
Speaker 5: get them, get these cuts in your own gardens and
Speaker 5: grow them and just find out. Yeah, the cat junkie,
Speaker 5: that's another one. Uh, that one different. I know people
Speaker 5: don't care for that. Maybe some of the older casts
Speaker 5: don't care for it, have never smoked it. I really
Speaker 5: enjoyed it. It yielded really well. Actually, I'm running it
Speaker 5: right right now, just like just one of them. It
Speaker 5: does great as far as mold. That's the thing is,
Speaker 5: like some of these modern cuts they suck or whatever.
Speaker 5: You might think. They're not heady as fuck. You might
Speaker 5: not get the Blue Ribbon award from your homies in
Speaker 5: the discord, but they do have their place, Like if
Speaker 5: you are dealing with problems like yeah, I mean you,
Speaker 5: there are are cuts to do well now, uh East
Speaker 5: Coast sour Diesel. It can do all right. But then
Speaker 5: if I neted out really well, but I do found
Speaker 5: it does a little to get a little pm if
Speaker 5: for me, if if I let it just go wild, dude,
Speaker 5: And I ain't kidding you, like some of the nugs
Speaker 5: are like on this last one there get like that.
Speaker 5: So I didn't notice like in the back corner where
Speaker 5: there's not much movement, if you don't have a lot
Speaker 5: of air movement, some of that will go a little bit,
Speaker 5: but not to so bad that it's like a problem.
Speaker 5: At least I found that. Being said, I can always
Speaker 5: do my gardens better. Guys, like you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: Kim four, probably I don't imagine it works good Kim
Speaker 5: ninety one does good for me as well, the asal
Speaker 5: said it didn't good, do good for him outside? You know,
Speaker 5: I think he's on the East coast, so like, I
Speaker 5: don't you know, you guys got to just try these out.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that helps. I also heard Pico
Speaker 5: make Gary Payton. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 5: if he's all to talk about that. I know there
Speaker 5: were some things like I don't know about that buck.
Speaker 5: Maybe he did. That's a great plant. I really like
Speaker 5: it for our modern genetic Like I don't like smoke
Speaker 5: it and go, oh my god, like I can't wait
Speaker 5: to kill this jar or nothing. But uh, you know,
Speaker 5: I might even had a jar of it somewhere here somewhere, dude, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean I gotta jar of it here, Like it's cool.
Speaker 5: I mean yeah, I mean it's a modern thing, you know.
Speaker 5: I don't A lot of these are in like a
Speaker 5: lot of these modern cuts for me personally, are interchangeable,
Speaker 5: like I could uh smoke them or not smoke them,
Speaker 5: or grow them or not. I mean like some of these,
Speaker 5: like for example, uh, the Gary p like this is
Speaker 5: just the first time I'm renting, and like, yeah, just
Speaker 5: first time I really took it seriously and ran it,
Speaker 5: and it's been good. It wasn't easy to grow, Like,
Speaker 5: I don't know if i'd run it like all the
Speaker 5: time or care that much. Like I could see why
Speaker 5: the modern guys use it for, uh, you know, that
Speaker 5: look factor or that bag appeal. I guess you could
Speaker 5: call it. It does look really pretty and it performed
Speaker 5: nice for what it was. And yeah, I can't I
Speaker 5: don't have no complaints about it, but yeah, I mean
Speaker 5: for me, it just it depends on what you guys
Speaker 5: are wanting, you know, Like, I don't think a lot
Speaker 5: of these modern cuts have those effects as deep as
Speaker 5: some of these older cuts do, but I do think
Speaker 5: they have their place and stuff where you know, your people,
Speaker 5: certain people's gardens, I'm sure, right, I mean, and some
Speaker 5: people just want to grow that. You know, we get
Speaker 5: we get locked into like these older genetics and stuff.
Speaker 5: And something's always blow in my mind about it is
Speaker 5: it's very gatekeepy. And you know, obviously you don't want
Speaker 5: to just be handing out cuts to these people because
Speaker 5: especially back in the day, because they would take your
Speaker 5: shit and sell the cuts or may genetics or whatever.
Speaker 5: So I get it, but it's hard because it's like,
Speaker 5: as a new grower, how they're we're gonna exposed to
Speaker 5: experience Kim D outside of someone like Caleb or CSI like,
Speaker 5: thankfully we got him, but like if he decided to
Speaker 5: close shop, you know, like where would people be? You know,
Speaker 5: So it's difficult. So yeah, I don't know if I
Speaker 5: would chase some of these older cuts so much more
Speaker 5: if you don't have good people to rely on, or
Speaker 5: a crew or or some people you can really trust.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I would chase some of the
Speaker 5: older genetics as I would get some of these other ones,
Speaker 5: more modern ones, because like, yeah you could, you could
Speaker 5: get a GMO cut or something pretty cheap, pretty easy,
Speaker 5: and pretty reliable and still get that same kind of jam,
Speaker 5: you know, funky kind of jam. I don't know, man,
Speaker 5: it's hard to you know. I know this is a
Speaker 5: PM question or what does good or whatever question. I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: I get I'm on the Edibles guys, but yeah, I
Speaker 5: mean I don't know Garvey no, no, you know, yeah,
Speaker 5: some of those do well, Like I don't know some
Speaker 5: of the modern stuff does well. I guess I wonder too,
Speaker 5: like some of the older shit, is it just because
Speaker 5: it's an old cut, if it's just more susceptible or
Speaker 5: you know or whatever, Yeah, or where Like there's so
Speaker 5: many things that can go into that where you're at,
Speaker 5: Like I feel like growing in Michigan so difficult compared
Speaker 5: to growing you know, where I'm at. You know, I
Speaker 5: think it's different. I think how many plants are growing
Speaker 5: obviously a big factor because yeah, I see you guys
Speaker 5: all the time, like, oh, I don't need to pray
Speaker 5: microros sulfur. That's fucking crazy that you're even doing that.
Speaker 5: And it's like, dude, you know, when you invest a
Speaker 5: lot of soil or you got a lot of plants
Speaker 5: and stuff going on, you you don't even want to
Speaker 5: risk this ship, dude, So why not You're just taking.
Speaker 2: The end of the day, You're you're growing a fucking crop. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like these are very simple practices that regular ass people
Speaker 2: use every fucking day on stuff like this is normal.
Speaker 2: You just you know, obviously there's good and bad uses
Speaker 2: of it. You don't want to be fucking spraying it,
Speaker 2: you know, Like yeah, too fault. You know, like there
Speaker 2: there's definitely certain like not mixing oil and sulfur, like
Speaker 2: there's good use practice for them.
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: It's rather normal like on it. I don't know that
Speaker 2: I've seen people make like weird you know, jumps of
Speaker 2: you know, like, oh, that's not natural that you're doing
Speaker 2: all of that stuff, And it's like, brother, this is
Speaker 2: a plant, this is how we brought like, this is agricuate,
Speaker 2: this is the thing that we've been doing forever.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: It is like very basic stuff too. I'm not doing
Speaker 2: weird shit, you know, Like, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure not we gotta comment. Somebody said Buck
Speaker 5: said some of the hype cuts people should know about
Speaker 5: our from the growers. We respecting the syndicate. Yeah, no,
Speaker 5: for sure, man, I just don't know. Like when he
Speaker 5: was on that podcast, he sounded like he was under
Speaker 5: like what do you call it, like a contract or
Speaker 5: something not to talk about it. So I just don't
Speaker 5: want to put his business out there for sure, though
Speaker 5: I agree with you. Yeah, some of the guys in
Speaker 5: the syndicate have made some sick stuff. H and L Park, Yeah, Pico,
Speaker 5: some of the other guys in there, Cronzoh my bad,
Speaker 5: I got edible brains I'm probably forgetting Matt like the uh.
Speaker 5: And then of course Caleb, like uh, shout out to Caleb.
Speaker 5: He's going through some stuff right now. Uh, so don't
Speaker 5: bother him. I'm not gonna put his business out there,
Speaker 5: but if you know, you know, but I appreciate him,
Speaker 5: and uh yeah, anybody else that's rocking out. I mean
Speaker 5: even the just the regular members of rock Out in
Speaker 5: the Breeders sitting, they can't super thankful for you guys.
Speaker 5: I try to keep up with everybody. I've been really busy.
Speaker 5: I do apologize if you're watching and you uh you
Speaker 5: know you've sent me a message on Instagram. I ain't
Speaker 5: got like too or whatever. Uh. I've just been busy, man,
Speaker 5: I'm trying the best I can. You know, if it
Speaker 5: had in my way, we just have each other's phone
Speaker 5: numbers and just call me and we just you know,
Speaker 5: hash it up like that. What do you think about Diesel?
Speaker 5: I haven't got to grow Diesel yet. That's the one
Speaker 5: that's on my list that's been coming. Uh. He screws
Speaker 5: grown and I think or some cross. Well.
Speaker 2: I did a couple of hybrids.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't grow that. I didn't do those very well.
Speaker 5: Though I don't think. Uh, and the one I did
Speaker 5: run him, I didn't really get. I don't think what
Speaker 5: people think of diesel. I don't think I got that
Speaker 5: from them. So, like, I definitely need to That's one
Speaker 5: of the best ones I do need to get.
Speaker 2: I don't have.
Speaker 5: I don't really have access to the cut or anything.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll shut up, you know what I'm saying. Well,
Speaker 2: these people like that, you know, I just don't want
Speaker 2: to ask somebody.
Speaker 5: I'm not asking that. I don't ask for that stuff, bro,
Speaker 5: Like I'm not trying to add. I will never ask
Speaker 5: a motherfucker part cut every day, Like I is not
Speaker 5: that guy. Like at so the end of the day,
Speaker 5: if you want me to have a cut from you, I.
Speaker 2: Have a feeling that bad. It's at some point here
Speaker 2: after this now.
Speaker 5: No, I don't even care, honestly, dude, anymore. I look
Speaker 5: at those old cuts. Is like I'm ball and chain
Speaker 5: a lot of times, dude, like like they're great breeding tools.
Speaker 5: And now that I'm at a place where I can
Speaker 5: make seeds, dude, and uh, and I'm decent at it.
Speaker 5: I just make the seeds, and I like, right now,
Speaker 5: that's kind of what I'm hyped to jump into just
Speaker 5: hunting through some of those things I made. I do
Speaker 5: still have some of the East Coast uh reversal stuff
Speaker 5: right now. The thing I'm gearing up for is I
Speaker 5: got a bunch of the kim d's. I got three
Speaker 5: big kim ds and big pots that I'm gonna stagger
Speaker 5: and do it the right way, and I'm gonna reverse those.
Speaker 5: I'm probably gonna reverse them on to a few things,
Speaker 5: and then I won't try to store the pollen hopefully
Speaker 5: and see if that works. And that's kind of where
Speaker 5: I'm at right now as far as like, that'll probably
Speaker 5: be like the last seeds that I make for a
Speaker 5: while and uh yeah, just uh if it successful obviously hopefully.
Speaker 5: Uh That's kind of where I'm at. But yeah, that's
Speaker 5: kind of what I'm working on. But no, I haven't
Speaker 5: tried diesel. Most somebody asked earlier. Most dank strains. I
Speaker 5: don't know, man, like we were talking earlier. For me,
Speaker 5: it's probably gonna be, yeah, I mean, probably anything P
Speaker 5: ninety one, anything GMO. A lot of the GMO hybrids
Speaker 5: are great. I think if you can't get the cut
Speaker 5: some of Matt Matt's got a gm O hiber if
Speaker 5: you're in the that kind of thing, I don't. I
Speaker 5: haven't ran that one of course anything if you like Kim,
Speaker 5: Kim's like a particular jam. I don't think like it's
Speaker 5: for everybody. Some people, especially with like the what is
Speaker 5: it the Big Bad Wolf? I think it is from
Speaker 5: CSI and a few other things like that some of
Speaker 5: the s ones and people are big fans of. But
Speaker 5: I think you just got to be a fan of Kim. Honestly,
Speaker 5: I think people's idea of Kim is probably not always
Speaker 5: accurate until you grow it. Because it's people ask all
Speaker 5: the time like what's it smell like? And dude, I
Speaker 5: could smell the jar a thousand times and I don't
Speaker 5: really know what to tell you other than maybe like
Speaker 5: like it's people were like, it's just funky and stuff.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't go as far as say it's like like
Speaker 5: it doesn't blow my mind like GMO does, like a
Speaker 5: good running GMO. I feel like, you know, I think
Speaker 5: that's just.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 5: The d Yeah, in particular.
Speaker 2: Like like a fucking cavity smell and like a bit
Speaker 2: of like poopiness.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a funky.
Speaker 2: But it was. It was quite strong compared to like
Speaker 2: running a hybrids of it. I see why. H and
Speaker 2: l HNL one said, like, you know, I really want
Speaker 2: to find a fucking you know, a cut, and they
Speaker 2: kept d hybrids that's like as good as the cut,
Speaker 2: so I could just drop, you know, like the cut,
Speaker 2: but none of them so far have have like quite
Speaker 2: surpassed it or anything.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I get I get why because all of
Speaker 2: the fucking hybrids that they definitely had the same type
Speaker 2: of you know, smell and stuff like that, but the
Speaker 2: intensity was nowhere near as near for me as running
Speaker 2: the actual cut.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like it's great, we dude, like in the facts
Speaker 5: in particular are our great, Dude, I'll cracking nug. I
Speaker 5: don't know, I just don't know how to describe it. Really,
Speaker 5: that's just loud dude's funky.
Speaker 2: Is Yeah, like nine has a lot more.
Speaker 5: It's Kimmy bro. I don't know, well, it.
Speaker 2: Definitely after like running a bunch of different kim stuff
Speaker 2: or like just running the cuts and then running stuff
Speaker 2: that has him in it, It's it's pretty pretty easy
Speaker 2: to pick out. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty distinctive, Like, oh
Speaker 2: that's kim.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Urn's was still a little bit better.
Speaker 5: In the Coco run, the mind just a bit. Just
Speaker 5: like overall, I top mind and netted it. So I
Speaker 5: think what I'd like to do is just do another
Speaker 5: run of it and uh just like let it do
Speaker 5: his thing more so than trying to net it up.
Speaker 5: And because I noticed, he just lets it kind of
Speaker 5: rock a little bit, so I was gonna let that.
Speaker 5: See how that happened. Also, this run, like for like
Speaker 5: half the run, it like the portion that the d
Speaker 5: was under of the A bay the light above it
Speaker 5: was like one hundred and fifty wade equivalent because I
Speaker 5: had a light go out, So it wasn't like the
Speaker 5: most ideal run Like I said, then I had the
Speaker 5: HVAC go out two other things. But like it's still great,
Speaker 5: Like I don't know, it's pretty close to the Earns
Speaker 5: his earned his run that I smelled this last time.
Speaker 5: I was super loud. It was great, dude. I liked
Speaker 5: it a lot. But but this kind of comes back
Speaker 5: to like I said before, it's like something about like
Speaker 5: for me, the way I grow GMOs, Yes said, GMOs
Speaker 5: can't talk to you, Gmo, Like it's just good, dude,
Speaker 5: it's ready to smoke quicker for me, like the d
Speaker 5: I gotta let it cure a little bit.
Speaker 2: For me more so, which I definitely think that it gained.
Speaker 2: It really gains that like, oh this is why everyone
Speaker 2: fucking talks about this week. Yeah, you know, like it
Speaker 2: gains that quality to it much later in like during
Speaker 2: it than other stuff.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, and you read it really does make
Speaker 5: the difference, right, like, uh there was I ran out
Speaker 5: of butt, so of course I've been smoking stuff a
Speaker 5: harvested and yeah, just over like the last week to
Speaker 5: watch like bloods off smoke transformed, dude, even just a
Speaker 5: little bit, to like go from like that smokeabull you know,
Speaker 5: borderlines smokable range to like yeah, bagging them up or
Speaker 5: unbagging them or trimming them up and then starting to
Speaker 5: smoke them after they've been in the jars for a
Speaker 5: few weeks, like uh yeah, especially this gorilla glue, Like
Speaker 5: I just like so pleased with it. It yielded out
Speaker 5: great for me, dude, like you know everything about it,
Speaker 5: like no problems. The only problem I had was the
Speaker 5: damn thing was throwing so much it was falling over dude,
Speaker 5: Like I was like, holy crap. I did do it
Speaker 5: in a seven gallon, so I just went big like
Speaker 5: this last weep, and it just so it was uh even.
Speaker 5: But even in like a little two or three gallon,
Speaker 5: it rocked out for me under like a hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty wahte lights. Still some of the best smoke. And
Speaker 5: it kind of like the h that same. It's the same,
Speaker 5: you know, like growing in a small tent or big tent,
Speaker 5: it grow way cooler and way better in the bigger
Speaker 5: tint when I could let it just rock out. But
Speaker 5: for sure like in the smaller tint as far as
Speaker 5: like the effects and the turps or the flavors and
Speaker 5: the grow itself. Yeah, man, I like the it's it's great.
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's just to eat works for me, right,
Speaker 5: Like the Kimni is great than the ninety one is great,
Speaker 5: East Coast is cool. All those are cool. I like
Speaker 5: them all. I just certain stuff just works better in
Speaker 5: certain people's garden. Like I'm almost like at that point
Speaker 5: where it's like, man, I might just let the homies
Speaker 5: grow this certain thing and just be like, yo, trade
Speaker 5: me a little bit of this for my stuff. And
Speaker 5: you know, you know, because some people to grow plants
Speaker 5: and stuff better. I feel like they just do better,
Speaker 5: or cocoas just better, or like certain things like I mean,
Speaker 5: we you did weren't at the Michigan party, but the
Speaker 5: running the Pean ninety one, our local sweet pea tasting
Speaker 5: that versus organic versus cocoa, it was totally different. Like
Speaker 5: you know, you can see like elements that it shared,
Speaker 5: but or it looks similar, right, but like the flavors
Speaker 5: and the smells of the way it was cured and
Speaker 5: grown the same cut, but different, like for sure, different
Speaker 5: kind of was mind blowing. Actually, so it's I think
Speaker 5: it just and even Sean's like, man, certain plants expressed
Speaker 5: a certain way for you differently. He was talking about
Speaker 5: the osen and stuff are the original sin and his cut.
Speaker 5: I was just like, yeah, I don't know. Just the
Speaker 5: way it is, dude, I thought, you know, for a
Speaker 5: long time, I thought all these plants were some of
Speaker 5: these plants were sick, and it's just the way they
Speaker 5: performed in my garden, dude, not as you know, it's
Speaker 5: the way it is. I don't know some of the
Speaker 5: variegation and stuff that comes out, it's just part of it.
Speaker 5: Because yeah, I don't know it's just like that kind
Speaker 5: of well, it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: Sorry to dude, I uh what what you said about
Speaker 2: the smoking, you know, like smoking while it's still where
Speaker 2: it's like just bare, you gotta let the buds sit
Speaker 2: out on the counter over you know, like smoke dog.
Speaker 2: Like that's how I spoke. I just I don't stop smoking,
Speaker 2: you know, like sometimes I just don't have enough fucking
Speaker 2: weed dried till I have another batch completely dried. So like,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't give a fuck. I just keep smoking,
Speaker 2: you know, so like I get, you know, like it.
Speaker 2: I think it's also valuable to at least try that
Speaker 2: at times. Yeah, even if it's just a small scale,
Speaker 2: to be able to like see and track through time
Speaker 2: and through different uh like dryness. Because that's why when
Speaker 2: anyone talks about the whole white ash black ash, that bullshit.
Speaker 2: You know, I've watched the same exact weed go from
Speaker 2: like barely being able to smolder to fucking pure white
Speaker 2: ash just through you know, five weeks of you know,
Speaker 2: like once is fully dry, then it's just gets completely
Speaker 2: fucking white. But you know, you got to that's a
Speaker 2: little bit away, it's gonna be fucking dark. I have wet. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and there is some stuff that I don't know. There's
Speaker 2: I've had some stuff too where even when it is
Speaker 2: like completely dry, it's almost like the I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's like the fucking way that the bracts are
Speaker 2: like set up or whatever, where it's almost like it's
Speaker 2: not physically designed to burn all the way down like
Speaker 2: in them first goes. So there's also that.
Speaker 5: There's yeah, and how dense the buds are too, like
Speaker 5: some of that stuff like, and yeah, some of the
Speaker 5: older cuts too, I think need a proper cure for
Speaker 5: them to be where they need to be, some of them,
Speaker 5: some of them monitor stuff. Don't see why they like it,
Speaker 5: you know, it's see why they run stuff for production
Speaker 5: just because, yeah, like it yields, it's somewhat resistant to mold.
Speaker 5: At least in my garden, it seems like, uh, it
Speaker 5: smells good, it looks good. You know, you can harvest
Speaker 5: it a little early if you need to. I get it,
Speaker 5: I get it all.
Speaker 2: Which also on the moving side, it's not hard. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if all of my lights had fucking any of those,
Speaker 2: like any of the cuts that all these customs are
Speaker 2: like looking for that in my mind I'm like, there's
Speaker 2: like five different ones, you know, like some are good,
Speaker 2: they're you know, definitely some of them are better than
Speaker 2: like all the rest of the stuff. Similar.
Speaker 5: You ain't gotta tell me. I just did a bunch
Speaker 5: of like different there's a bunch of cuts I just
Speaker 5: ran down so long ago. There were like, yeah, they
Speaker 5: was all some kind of candy bullshit, cakey stuff.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Uh, I don't know, like the same weed.
Speaker 2: But it would be gone like I would not oh yeah,
Speaker 2: be probably there wouldn't be you know, and that would
Speaker 2: be something that, for some reason in the market could
Speaker 2: actually go for more than like, Hey, I got this
Speaker 2: sixteen week long fucking you know, shoreline by Mango Hayes.
Speaker 2: That's way out there, you know, like and luckily that
Speaker 2: one's also pretty and like, yeah, smells really good. So
Speaker 2: I there. But no one's gonna fucking no one would
Speaker 2: pay born is what I'm like, very few people because
Speaker 2: no one gives the ship that it took twice as
Speaker 2: long to run that as like Saved by Stoneape or whatever,
Speaker 2: you know, like any regular eight week cut.
Speaker 5: No nobody cares about that. That's so yeah, you can't
Speaker 5: that's the problem with you I guess you're my modern
Speaker 5: day trappers problem, right if like you're doing it from
Speaker 5: the ground up, doing it yourself, is like you just
Speaker 5: have to have the right clientele, like you know, and
Speaker 5: that's what's anything right when you're doing this kind of stuff,
Speaker 5: is like having the right people to unload that stuff onto.
Speaker 5: Because yeah, like that's why I try to tell some
Speaker 5: of the guys, like in certain let's just say, in
Speaker 5: certain areas, like if you try to applause some of
Speaker 5: these plants to like and make you might be able
Speaker 5: to niche out a spot over time. But say you
Speaker 5: move somewhere new or whatever and you're trying to do
Speaker 5: your thing, and uh, you're gonna have problems because because like, yeah, people,
Speaker 5: people get set to a price, you know, and after
Speaker 5: years of spending that it makes it hard for people
Speaker 5: because I mean, let's be real, like the price of
Speaker 5: livings never getting cheaper. Everything's more expensive. I literally can
Speaker 5: go back and look on my Amazon or whatever websites
Speaker 5: and look at what I pay for the same nutrients
Speaker 5: two years ago, because it tells me up above, you know,
Speaker 5: you can purchase ite them twenty times or whatever. You
Speaker 5: can go back and look and it's not easy, so like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you really have to be resourceful and unfortunately, like for
Speaker 5: I do think yeah, if you The problem is though too,
Speaker 5: if you're living in a place that's super you know, heady,
Speaker 5: if you will, they all know what's up and they're
Speaker 5: all growing bud and they all know guy, So that's
Speaker 5: even harder. That's got its own challenges too. Uh So
Speaker 5: it's just a race world.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, there's really people who who move old
Speaker 2: world prices, yeah, for what is essentially just a little
Speaker 2: bit fresher of the same exact Yeah. You know, so
Speaker 2: you have someone who's like, should I usually spend you know,
Speaker 2: twenty dollars for an eighth or whatever, you know, and
Speaker 2: then they fucking spend three times as much and get
Speaker 2: pretty much the same effect, and they're like, eh, you're
Speaker 2: not gonna It's not like back in the day where
Speaker 2: like the schwag to actual fucking good weed difference, it's
Speaker 2: not there, you know, like we were okay with you know,
Speaker 2: like crazy inflation prices on the flower compared to brick
Speaker 2: because there was that huge of a difference, and now
Speaker 2: it's just happened so many times that even when they try,
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna pay more to get the better product
Speaker 2: or whatever, and then it doesn't happen for them because
Speaker 2: it's the same exact product just in a different package.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Well another problem too, Another problem too is like everybody's
Speaker 5: raised to the bottom so hard that nowadays if people
Speaker 5: are smart to ask for you know, a QP, so
Speaker 5: now it creates this weird thing if you're so tent guy,
Speaker 5: like are you gonna be able to like maintain this
Speaker 5: type of wait for these people? And then the idea
Speaker 5: of like yeah, getting maybe maybe years ago they were
Speaker 5: you know, a zip person or a hap zip here
Speaker 5: or there, and now all of a sudden they've spent
Speaker 5: their time buying them you know, cheap qps or whatever
Speaker 5: or more or whatever.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 5: And then so it's it creates a weird situation because
Speaker 5: it's like they're expecting these bolt does count prices for
Speaker 5: you on some kim dog you know or something right,
Speaker 5: and it's like you can't do it, Like I'll just
Speaker 5: keep it, you know, if you're going to do that.
Speaker 2: Like no, I'll just smoke it.
Speaker 5: I'll just smoke it, dude. Like it's not like that
Speaker 5: big of a deal or like, you know, people don't
Speaker 5: count on Like if you I.
Speaker 2: Feel bad for anyone more in my jar than.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know. So it's it creates this weird
Speaker 5: you almost need you almost. Yeah, it just creates a
Speaker 5: weird situation because yeah, like are you even like Okay,
Speaker 5: so you grow up the most heavy ship in the world.
Speaker 5: You want to get rid of that, you know, like
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't keep it, keep it dude, you know,
Speaker 5: so I get back in the day it's different and
Speaker 5: you can you know, you got he's giant grows and
Speaker 5: doing all the ship. But like you're just like a
Speaker 5: tent dude and you're doing your thing. Maybe you got
Speaker 5: a rumor two and like it's I would Yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 5: I couldn't imagine just being this for like making your living,
Speaker 5: you know, like it's that's crazy, it's you always look
Speaker 5: at it more. Is just like a like a bartering
Speaker 5: thing or a trading thing type thing for me anymore.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, I mean it sucks because even if
Speaker 2: everyone I know on you know, much larger scales, they
Speaker 2: all hate their life too. They're like this fucking sucks.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, cropping out in three yeah, like things, you know,
Speaker 5: you're running the same ship over and over, and you
Speaker 5: know you just not you get you get lost in
Speaker 5: that too. It's it's all I think for me, it's
Speaker 5: like a fine line of like having a few tens
Speaker 5: and may it might be an a bay or whatever,
Speaker 5: but a couple of four by fours or whatever in
Speaker 5: a edge space or however you want to articulate that
Speaker 5: or build that out. But I think it's for me
Speaker 5: like running a few cuts I can count on in
Speaker 5: my four by four and then exploring seeds is kind
Speaker 5: of like my bread and butter, where I want to
Speaker 5: get back to at least two and do that. That's
Speaker 5: more phone like cuts. You kind of know what they're
Speaker 5: gonna give you for sure, and they do have a place.
Speaker 5: And I do think you a new grower should experience
Speaker 5: things to give you like a some kind of benchmark
Speaker 5: to understand why people care about shit or why it
Speaker 5: works for them. Like you know, you get lost in
Speaker 5: the sauce if you're getting rep cuts because a lot
Speaker 5: of that ship's production, right, you're not it's not necessarily
Speaker 5: for effects. So you know a lot of the modern
Speaker 5: stuff you gotta be careful. But you know, I think
Speaker 5: you get to like GMO and the kind of stop
Speaker 5: and everything else after that. There are things that do
Speaker 5: well and you know, might perform for you or might
Speaker 5: work for you as a tool or you might like individually,
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna well, Like I like that cap junkie, dude.
Speaker 5: I think that's like decent. We for real, Like I
Speaker 5: did a run of it, U Missigan that I don't know,
Speaker 5: like I thought it was as good as not better
Speaker 5: than a lot of the other like things that I've
Speaker 5: grown that were older. I just think that the effects.
Speaker 5: It just comes back to effects too for me, Like
Speaker 5: it doesn't make me paranoid staring out the window at night,
Speaker 5: like thinking like you know, somebody's showing to get my
Speaker 5: but hole, but like the actual hob and like the
Speaker 5: intake and I'm like the smell and the flavor and
Speaker 5: everything about it to grow like cause that's kind of
Speaker 5: all I look at shit nowadays too, is it's like like, man, Okay,
Speaker 5: you know this thing was great, but it was a
Speaker 5: bitch to grow. Or like man, every time I grow
Speaker 5: that I have to do this certain thing like sometimes
Speaker 5: like it depends on my mood, like I might like
Speaker 5: right now I'm dealing with a kid like a baby
Speaker 5: and stuff on the way. It's just not realistic to
Speaker 5: do certain things for me.
Speaker 12: And I've dealt with these cuts enough that I'm like, man,
Speaker 12: I'm just gonna run the grilla glue and throw a
Speaker 12: couple of d plants into a small tin and you know,
Speaker 12: just rocks.
Speaker 2: You gotta find new cuts that you can hold and
Speaker 2: bring to fame. Now I'll pass on to your son
Speaker 2: as that that's weird.
Speaker 5: I'm an asshole. I'll be they find your own, bitch.
Speaker 5: Here's a bas yeah, yeah, here's a bag of seeds
Speaker 5: in my freezer. Bro find find the one. Now you
Speaker 5: know something that to this day, that skunk or sorry,
Speaker 5: that skanate dog that I popped from what's his name?
Speaker 5: I can't even think rob anyway, see seed drip Rob,
Speaker 5: seed trip Rob. I can't ever talk dude, uh the
Speaker 5: skate dog word. Dude. That plant, that particular one I
Speaker 5: found it what it didn't yield like crazy? You know,
Speaker 5: it wasn't like the craziest big plant or nothing, but
Speaker 5: I grew it in like one hundred wat a little
Speaker 5: two bout two. To me this day, that's some of
Speaker 5: the best weed I've ever grown.
Speaker 2: Dude, it look like my kind of fucking weed that
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, it just.
Speaker 5: Reminded me of like old school weed like pictures that
Speaker 5: you've seen are like damn, like it just looks sticky, icky,
Speaker 5: like uh that sharp, dark like earthy kind of south.
Speaker 2: Like a like a high times folk.
Speaker 7: You know, like you'd be like, oh, while you're eye
Speaker 7: on the worst weed in your fucking life with your friends.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, you know, speaking of hot times, dude,
Speaker 5: I've been thinking about making a magazine. And I need
Speaker 5: to talk to Matt and no other few guys and
Speaker 5: there are a lot of people out there be like wow, dude,
Speaker 5: But I was thinking about making like a magazine. Uh,
Speaker 5: it might take a little bit of like work and stuff,
Speaker 5: and it might not be a monthly magazine. It's probably
Speaker 5: like a quarterly magazine. But I was thinking of out
Speaker 5: like yeah, just doing straining reviews and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: I having proper pictures, you know, I needed to do
Speaker 5: some stuff. And this is probably a little bit of
Speaker 5: the ways out.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: It's not like I'll be doing them tomorrow, but for
Speaker 5: sure like that, I was thinking about doing something like
Speaker 5: that where even if I was only doing like a
Speaker 5: hundred copies or whatever, something small that's cool and maybe
Speaker 5: add something some cool things to it. I don't know,
Speaker 5: I was just been thinking about that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Dope for us, I think would be cool.
Speaker 13: I think, like not worried about like, oh, it's just
Speaker 13: gonna fucking sell in Europe or any bullshit. You know
Speaker 13: that's we're we're gonna make something cool, just so like
Speaker 13: for it to be cool.
Speaker 5: You know that borderline kitties in there.
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey this question. Do you feed some salt or
Speaker 2: use sugar during flour?
Speaker 5: I do you use like molasses, space products and stuff
Speaker 5: like that, So, especially like towards the end a little bit,
Speaker 5: I do use it here there, I do. It just
Speaker 5: depends it depends on what you're speaking of. But it
Speaker 5: like for flour in particular, I do use like some
Speaker 5: of the Mendo honey and a few other products and
Speaker 5: a few things that are have like the molasses face
Speaker 5: stuff in it. But if that's what you mean about
Speaker 5: sugar sugary stuff.
Speaker 2: I yeah, I would consider that if because that that
Speaker 2: would be the thing that I would think, like if
Speaker 2: someone asked me, you know sugar or hey, I'm thinking
Speaker 2: of using sugar I would think they're thinking of molasses
Speaker 2: just because that's a pretty common thing. People use it
Speaker 2: as like a microbe food for the finishing and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. I do use epsom salt. I use it
Speaker 2: and gyps as a cow mag whenever I if you
Speaker 2: add extra or whenever I stop feeding the hydrolyssay, I'll
Speaker 2: switch to just using that as like to continue feeding
Speaker 2: cowmag for a little bit without all the extra stuff
Speaker 2: attached to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I really like using those products like in flower
Speaker 5: especially Yeah, the molasses and stuff. That's all. I think
Speaker 5: it does improve your flower for sure, just being I've
Speaker 5: ran enough without it and I've been using it again,
Speaker 5: I've I've stopped and used it and you know, tried everything,
Speaker 5: and I do I do think it makes the difference, dude.
Speaker 5: I think you know, I used to not be that
Speaker 5: guy into like all the like say for cannon for example,
Speaker 5: the whole line and stuff. And I'll be honest, like
Speaker 5: some of the products that I run are like bootleg
Speaker 5: versions of them that I basically just found a close
Speaker 5: enough equivalent because some of the products are super expensive, dude,
Speaker 5: especially in the cana stuff. But I do think a
Speaker 5: lot of these products do have their place. I think
Speaker 5: my last run I can speak just based off of
Speaker 5: weight and the flour itself, the flavors, the smells that
Speaker 5: it does make a difference. I don't think I would
Speaker 5: go back to not using some of these products. I
Speaker 5: mean pretty much like like I use the PK, the
Speaker 5: PK stuff from Canada, the the excuse me, Bourbin, the
Speaker 5: A and B products you know, or the I guess,
Speaker 5: the tear and the Vega. I'm using the Tearra line
Speaker 5: right now for a lot of stuff. I do have
Speaker 5: the Coco stuff that I use, the amb but yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, but yeah, as far as the sorry I'm
Speaker 5: getting off topic, but the molasses based product them into
Speaker 5: Honey's great, dude, I like it. It's like thirty dollars
Speaker 5: at least it was. Most of the hydro stores carry it.
Speaker 5: It works great for me. Maybe it's not a good product.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't I don't know a lot
Speaker 5: about all these products. Some of the stuff I'm just
Speaker 5: looking at the ingredients. I don't know who owns it
Speaker 5: or what they do. So like maybe the owners are
Speaker 5: good or bad people, I don't really know. So if
Speaker 5: you're that type of person or you care about that ship.
Speaker 5: That's probably something you need to look into. But as
Speaker 5: far as like whoever owns it or whatever, I don't know.
Speaker 5: But yeah, the Mendo honey honeyworks, I think doesn't recharging stuff.
Speaker 5: I have molasses in it or something as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they use it as a micro food, like I
Speaker 2: use glasses to bulk up em one, But I wouldn't
Speaker 2: count that as using sugar because like you know, really
Speaker 2: the which that is from my understanding, what you know
Speaker 2: people are are doing whenever they're using molasses at the
Speaker 2: end is our team a microbe food for what's what's
Speaker 2: already in there so they can like kind of d
Speaker 2: I use like a lot of micro I use microbes
Speaker 2: every time I water, whether it's just plain water, whether
Speaker 2: it's feed water, I'm adding either em one or like
Speaker 2: fish ship, or I'm using some kind of micro product
Speaker 2: in there. Uh. But I guess next run, I'll try
Speaker 2: out using you know, doing my regular thing, but then
Speaker 2: also using molasses at the end to see if it,
Speaker 2: I don't know, has any extra you know, I'm down
Speaker 2: to try. I definitely. I mean, I use some salt
Speaker 2: just as a because I use it to make COWMG
Speaker 2: essentially that has no nitrogen tied to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would get up and show you all the
Speaker 5: things that I use. But some of the bottles are
Speaker 5: a little sticky icky, like the Mendow Honey It's it's
Speaker 5: really nasty. It's it's older bottles. It's getting towards the
Speaker 5: end of its life. But yeah, I mean I I
Speaker 5: the boot, like most of the product What you want
Speaker 5: is the boost, dude. Like so for like Canna, I
Speaker 5: think they're Boost or whatever it's called. I forget the
Speaker 5: specific name. But it's like anytime you look at any
Speaker 5: of these product lines, it's gonna be like the most
Speaker 5: expensive thing. A lot of the times I'm actually using
Speaker 5: biobits stuff. I forget what there's is. I don't think
Speaker 5: it's it might be my molasses base, but I think
Speaker 5: it's like beat juice or some shit. I don't really know,
Speaker 5: but I'll be honest, dude, I fucking really am enjoying that.
Speaker 5: And it's like half the price of the Canna stuff.
Speaker 5: And maybe it's not like you know, formulated that work
Speaker 5: great with each other, but I don't know, dude. I
Speaker 5: wish I could share the weights and stuff that I
Speaker 5: got from last Yeah, I'm happy. I'm just happy. I'm happy.
Speaker 5: I let's just say that. But I'm using that the
Speaker 5: pek or whatever it's called from Canna. I'm also using
Speaker 5: I do use. You know, I have a bunch of products. Actually,
Speaker 5: I got to think I don't use that much. Ship
Speaker 5: I got like the salt rock dust, I used opinion,
Speaker 5: especially like the kims and stuff. Of course I got.
Speaker 5: I got a bag of recharge that I use a
Speaker 5: little bit. I use for the root stimulants. The Kangaroo.
Speaker 5: I forget what it's called. I always forget the names
Speaker 5: of these products. But it's just the mars. It's either
Speaker 5: General Hydroponics or I think it's a General Hydroprodicts product.
Speaker 5: I replace that for the canon Rozzo. I think it
Speaker 5: is a Roso I forget the names of all this ship.
Speaker 5: I have to look at the picture, guys. I'm super visual,
Speaker 5: so I'm just looking at pictures. But and then I
Speaker 5: got powers. Uh yeah, I mean I don't know what
Speaker 5: else am I missing here? Yeah, just the bass the canon.
Speaker 5: Why I'm using cow mag the basse uh? And then yeah,
Speaker 5: it depends on where I'm going from there. If I'm
Speaker 5: Flower and I'm using uh, the bio bizes. They're bloom
Speaker 5: because it's cheaper, I mean, and it works great. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then I got the Peak and yeah, a couple
Speaker 5: of other random products I used here there, but yeah,
Speaker 5: that's pretty much all I'm using. And then I use uh,
Speaker 5: I use all this stuff in Fox Farm unless I'm
Speaker 5: doing Coco. I do the the cana or the Coco
Speaker 5: A and B and I just do it and Coco.
Speaker 5: But I just got some breaks recently, so maybe I'll
Speaker 5: do some here soon. But my I lost my source
Speaker 5: of really cheap coco. I was getting the was it
Speaker 5: the cloud choir? I can't even cocoa choir. I can't
Speaker 5: ever say it right, Guys, I say choir choer choir.
Speaker 5: Dan always makes fun of me. He's like, dude, it's
Speaker 5: not choir. I'm like, this is the way its say
Speaker 5: a dog. I'm sorry, but uh, there's uh some stuff
Speaker 5: that better recommended me, but they don't have that around here.
Speaker 5: The only thing I can get like it's even close
Speaker 5: to like actual Coco is like the loco Coco. But
Speaker 5: that's that's got stuff in it, I'm pretty sure. So
Speaker 5: I I tend to stay away from that, but I
Speaker 5: do have some cannon brick so I just got recently,
Speaker 5: but there're for something else, so I don't know, a
Speaker 5: different project. You know, it goes, but I don't even
Speaker 5: remember what started the tangent. I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: Guys were using If we use molasses, yeah, dog use.
Speaker 5: A little.
Speaker 2: Jinkscroof toe, then one cup of organic rod ri sugar
Speaker 2: p thirty gallons of water on day twenty and day
Speaker 2: forty flour and it works great. Yeah, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's you're adding a microbe food, you know,
Speaker 2: and I would definitely pay attention to that, like that dilution.
Speaker 2: It's it's not strong, you know, like you don't want
Speaker 2: to have a super uh, you don't want to be
Speaker 2: poor and simple syrup in there.
Speaker 5: Well, you're feeding the microbes, I guess in the soil. Right. Well,
Speaker 5: here's here's what something's interesting about that is in some
Speaker 5: of the South American countries, UH, at the sugar cane
Speaker 5: or in other countries where there's sugar cane plantations, some
Speaker 5: of the best places to get some of the magic
Speaker 5: mushrooms are actually at some of these old plantations where
Speaker 5: they had the big pulp piles left over, right and
Speaker 5: those kind of rotted down a bit, you know, so yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, i'd imagine it's just sugar, right, it's just
Speaker 5: the pulp and everything there, and those are some of
Speaker 5: the biggest best mushrooms or some of the best place
Speaker 5: to grow these particular mushrooms. So yeah, of course, like
Speaker 5: I could imagine you could use that in some way.
Speaker 5: I'm just not an expert in soil science scus so
Speaker 5: you know, don't take my word for it, but I yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean for sure as far as like as far
Speaker 5: as my extent for sugar, if you want to consider molasses,
Speaker 5: but like that's it. Really, I don't do raw sugar.
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's I'm sure you could like well, I mean.
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's so like r also with the
Speaker 2: raw sugar, like sugar in the raw or whatever terbnado
Speaker 2: de marera, whatever you want to call it, or grade
Speaker 2: it is if they're brown, because they don't have all
Speaker 2: of them molasses extracted from it, which you know, like
Speaker 2: it just it's trying to give a more base nutrition.
Speaker 2: And as Buck did say, if you are using molasses,
Speaker 2: use the unsulfured, yeah, so that it doesn't kill the
Speaker 2: microbes in there.
Speaker 5: I forget these things when in case, we talked about
Speaker 5: it so much, but yeah, or even like when we're
Speaker 5: talking about Micross sulfur, I was like, some guy is
Speaker 5: gonna hear this and go spray their ship, Like, make
Speaker 5: sure when you're.
Speaker 2: Looking up Vin, he's going to be in their spray.
Speaker 5: And yeah, dude, just make sure you're looking up the
Speaker 5: proper processes for some stuff I'm talking about. If you
Speaker 5: don't know, just make sure you ask questions or looking
Speaker 5: up dude, Jesus Christ. Yeah, sorry, comments and scroll a
Speaker 5: little bit. Haven't been paying attention. What's up, August? Thanks
Speaker 5: for tuning in. Thanks Kyle Buck. I appreciate you guys. Okay,
Speaker 5: I appreciate y'all tune And then what about maple sap?
Speaker 5: I'm sure, dude, anything natural like that.
Speaker 2: Just like simple sugar, because that's what you're doing, is
Speaker 2: you're giving a simple sugar that's super easily broken down.
Speaker 2: So think of it just like when you're fermenting anything.
Speaker 2: What you're trying to do is give them a simple
Speaker 2: sugar so that the microbe colonies that you're trying to
Speaker 2: like propagate explode. That's essentially the same ideas that you're
Speaker 2: you're trying to feed these microbe colonies with like like
Speaker 2: give them a steroid shot there in the end to
Speaker 2: like make them living up and get all fucking I
Speaker 2: don't know, juicy, I don't know what you want. I
Speaker 2: don't subscribe that. But you're trying to give them a
Speaker 2: very simple carb source to quickly expanded numbers and like
Speaker 2: do their thing, which in your soil and stuff. Ideally
Speaker 2: after hit out of that amount of time, you have
Speaker 2: some microbe colonies in there that are you know, doing
Speaker 2: their thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you you see it, especially if you get into
Speaker 5: the realm of what I've been doing, leylves letting things
Speaker 5: run in like a half gallon or a gallon for
Speaker 5: three four months like a mother planet, dude, Like there'd
Speaker 5: be some weeks like I've tested where obviously, all right,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give them straight water this run this one right,
Speaker 5: especially with the Tarot line, because it's not as potent
Speaker 5: as some of the like the Cocoa or some of
Speaker 5: the other lines out there. It's made to uh, you
Speaker 5: know go in with like you know, ocean or pre
Speaker 5: Amne thinks. Yeah, so it's not gonna burn your ship,
Speaker 5: and then people out there worried about burning. I think
Speaker 5: it's an excellent line to start with because it's very
Speaker 5: hard to burn. I mean, but especially if you follow
Speaker 5: the like third charts and stuff like that. But anyways, uh,
Speaker 5: what was I getting at with this? We were talking
Speaker 5: about something in particular my bad our brain's not working anymore.
Speaker 5: We were going to talk about something what we're talking
Speaker 5: about chat?
Speaker 2: I forgot where about using other step like using maple
Speaker 2: sap as a sickle sugar?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sure you guys could I think
Speaker 5: some people overthink this shit. Guys like you could probably
Speaker 5: do that, but like you could just go buy a
Speaker 5: bottle of Mendow honey or or yeah, like maybe you
Speaker 5: want to get into this stuff and I'm sure they're
Speaker 5: are like people using these and stuff and maybe they
Speaker 5: work for you. Maybe that's something I want to explore.
Speaker 5: But me personally, I just send to tick stick to
Speaker 5: like what works. You know, Like, I'm sure there's better
Speaker 5: ways to always do it. We all know that, but
Speaker 5: like for me, just like like honestly, what I'm using
Speaker 5: right now does great, Like I don't know it to
Speaker 5: be great because I you know, you leave up, you
Speaker 5: leave a plant in a half gallon pot for three
Speaker 5: four months, and and the plant is four or five
Speaker 5: foot tall. Like, I'm not shitting on nobody, guys, But
Speaker 5: some of them my plants that I've left in these
Speaker 5: pods for three or four months, you know, I see
Speaker 5: people a will be like, oh, you know, my shit's
Speaker 5: going root bound and stuff. I think a lot of
Speaker 5: these people just quit feeding them, right, there's nothing left
Speaker 5: in the pots. Like you can keep them going for
Speaker 5: a long ass time. There are some plants, older plants
Speaker 5: in particular, that don't like it, but a lot of
Speaker 5: these modern cuts do. Like you can run them in
Speaker 5: a pot, in a little half can for I've done
Speaker 5: them all for four or five months at a time.
Speaker 5: And yeah, they'll they'll they'll be top heavy, falling over
Speaker 5: and all this shit. But uh yeah, you see when
Speaker 5: you add these like molasseses or malass asses, this is
Speaker 5: you add some of these root juices, whether it's like
Speaker 5: the high end shit or it's kangaroo whatever it's called,
Speaker 5: general hydroponic stuff, Like it really does rock them out.
Speaker 5: Because I see h across the board legacy cuts, modern cuts.
Speaker 5: I went from having these plants and half gallon pots
Speaker 5: for three or four months. It's about the end. I'm
Speaker 5: pulling them out, ready to put them in a bigger
Speaker 5: pot finally. You know how it is, guys. You put
Speaker 5: them on the shelf for ever and they're just the
Speaker 5: roots don't look great, little brown. Maybe maybe I've over
Speaker 5: watered them, whatever, But I pull them out now across
Speaker 5: the board. Dude. I pull them out the boom, out
Speaker 5: the bottom, so much so that the saucer trays are
Speaker 5: sticking to the bottom of the pots, you know, like
Speaker 5: they're white. I took a bunch of I see guys
Speaker 5: all tom flex and when their like little root cubes
Speaker 5: and stuff. I took a bunch of long. I got
Speaker 5: roots that are like, dude, you pull them out the
Speaker 5: clone tray and they're literally like a foot long. You know,
Speaker 5: just didn't basic domes and shit, so I don't know,
Speaker 5: like we're getting this ship really does work. The root
Speaker 5: boosters and stuff. I used to I said, I used
Speaker 5: to sit around. I used to be the guy that
Speaker 5: didn't do is the root jails and everything, And it
Speaker 5: does work and stuff. You can definitely make shit work. Uh.
Speaker 5: I think that plant. The plant's strong, dude, it's weird.
Speaker 5: It's gonna do its thing, no matter what. But I
Speaker 5: will say that either like let's just say a lot
Speaker 5: of cuts I don't really modern or old. I mean,
Speaker 5: I've granny TechEd all the old cuts, you know, uh easily,
Speaker 5: like it's taken three four weeks to do them. But
Speaker 5: I do, I mean, I think it's just feeding your
Speaker 5: plants the right ship. And I do think if you
Speaker 5: are not giving them what they need, they'll show it
Speaker 5: to you for sure, especially these older ones, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean, but I see with those older cuts, like
Speaker 5: especially with the Kims in the East Coast, they love
Speaker 5: the like the basalt rock dusts and ship like that. Dude.
Speaker 5: Some of the modern cuts, you can tell what you're
Speaker 5: doing it over doing it with them with some of
Speaker 5: that ship. But I think some of it, yeah, like
Speaker 5: some of those older cuts they need it, especially you're
Speaker 5: reversing all maybe or you're making seed. They'll turn the ship, dude. Honestly,
Speaker 5: you'll get these pale with those older cuts East Coast especially,
Speaker 5: like definitely need to feed them or have a nice
Speaker 5: hot spot with them. Not bad. I'm renting guys, and
Speaker 5: i I'm these edibles speaking go what the things man,
Speaker 5: but the hell they go? I don't know, but my bad. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, from from what I've been experienced having stuff in
Speaker 2: like a small pot for a really long time, has
Speaker 2: the where I have run into issues. Most hasn't been
Speaker 2: with feeding or like light or any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: It's been with the roots because at a certain point
Speaker 2: it gets so you know, colonize that it's easy to
Speaker 2: either drown or fucking like dry them, like dry it
Speaker 2: out way too much, too quickly. And that has been
Speaker 2: for me, the like the balancing act has been more
Speaker 2: of that than it has been feeding because you know,
Speaker 2: like I've I've done both like underwatered by like a
Speaker 2: lot very quickly in like literally overnight type of situation
Speaker 2: in the solo cup. And I've also had it to
Speaker 2: where it's like oh fuck, I want to wait, you know,
Speaker 2: like when I pull them out there, they've obviously been
Speaker 2: like drowning for a while. Yea, you know I've had
Speaker 2: both ways.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that's a good point. Mattwill assume it's Matt.
Speaker 5: You can keep cuts in the refrigerator in four of stasis,
Speaker 5: for sure. I've I've had I've had a cut cuts
Speaker 5: in there before like a month and a half. Dude,
Speaker 5: like legit, like I think. I don't like to rely
Speaker 5: on that by any means, but you can do that.
Speaker 5: And half the time I don't have the space for
Speaker 5: that ship and more because I got so many different
Speaker 5: little drinks and stuff. But uh, yeah you can do that.
Speaker 5: Uh you can harden them off, yeah, for sure in
Speaker 5: the refridge overnight. Guys. If you sometimes you know some
Speaker 5: people will uh hydrate cuts in like solos or whatever
Speaker 5: you're doing. Maybe you've got the moms in big pots.
Speaker 5: I personally like to do my cuttings and put them
Speaker 5: in a solo cup in water. I mean, yeah, it'd
Speaker 5: be great if I could have the room to put
Speaker 5: them in a refrigerator, but there's there's no way I'm
Speaker 5: gonna get them all in there. So just like dumbing
Speaker 5: them up and uh let on them soak over night.
Speaker 5: I do that for all every time I take cuttings.
Speaker 5: And I haven't really knocked on wood lost the cut
Speaker 5: in over a year, so uh, it's just the way
Speaker 5: I like to do it. I wish I could harden
Speaker 5: them off like that, for sure, but yeah, you'd have
Speaker 5: like that. I was thinking about that the other day.
Speaker 5: I was like, well, how much you want to be
Speaker 5: to have a like a walk in refrigerator. I was
Speaker 5: looking into it and I was like, dude, like thirty grand,
Speaker 5: like twenty thirty grand, like you know, you know it's
Speaker 5: a it's a it's a at home grower and at
Speaker 5: home grower guys doing it, you know. And Jordi would say, uh, yeah,
Speaker 5: you gotta be. You got to pick your battles and
Speaker 5: what what makes sense right, because I know you guys
Speaker 5: are probably like me and you're a gear head, are
Speaker 5: you you like uh, cannabis gear stuff, and you're like, man,
Speaker 5: that would be great to have that or this, and
Speaker 5: I don't know, dude, Like I get lost in the
Speaker 5: sauce with lights and I got adhd as you can tell. Probably.
Speaker 5: So I get into look at AC Infinity, like they're
Speaker 5: not great the greatest for everything, but they do rock
Speaker 5: out for a lot of stuff. I get on their website.
Speaker 5: Every time I get on there, they got some new products.
Speaker 5: I'm like, this is like where was this like a
Speaker 5: year ago, and are you just doing this to keep
Speaker 5: me buying something like I bought their AC Infinity uh
Speaker 5: like AC heat unit and then a year later they
Speaker 5: bring out the single or the double ducking version of it.
Speaker 5: I'm like, what are you guys doing to me? You know,
Speaker 5: like but yeah, I get into the gear. My bad.
Speaker 2: Well, something that I'm probably gonna start employing is h
Speaker 2: at the the not the last party, but one before
Speaker 2: that that Pac went to. He was telling me about
Speaker 2: how like he'll keep when he takes cuts, he'll do
Speaker 2: some extras and keep snips in the fridge, like as
Speaker 2: a backup in case those cut stone root, And like,
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna start employing that. Just have like
Speaker 2: a double you know, a double safety on it.
Speaker 5: Well, what I do is if I take three or
Speaker 5: four cuttings, right, I'm down to the point where I
Speaker 5: know it's risky unless it's a legacy cut, I'm doing
Speaker 5: like two cuts because I don't give a fuck if
Speaker 5: I'll lose a modern cut. So I'm doing two snips
Speaker 5: and by the time i go to uh up pot it,
Speaker 5: unless I'm like for example, the Gorilla glue, Kim Dee
Speaker 5: and a few others, I'm doing many just so I
Speaker 5: can do my run and do a whole tint or whatever.
Speaker 5: Or if I'm doing a whole tint or if I'm chucking.
Speaker 5: This depends, like obviously but if I'm just like doing
Speaker 5: my run in the meal, just keeping the cut going,
Speaker 5: I'm just doing two snips because it got so many
Speaker 5: that it's it's a lot. So i do two snips
Speaker 5: of like the newer ship, and then I've like the legacy,
Speaker 5: I'll do anywhere from three to five, and then I'll
Speaker 5: I'll usually we'll clone up, you know, five of them,
Speaker 5: and I'll pick unless I'm doing something with them a project,
Speaker 5: I'll pick like two or three of the best. Because
Speaker 5: I noticed, like some of those older cuts, dude, you
Speaker 5: want to you want to get a few of them going,
Speaker 5: because like if you're just relying on one, it might
Speaker 5: be that one that just doesn't wan a root really great.
Speaker 5: I noticed that, especially like the d and even the
Speaker 5: way you take the cutting on some of those old cuts.
Speaker 5: Use me on burpen too many cookies, or you take
Speaker 5: the cutting on some of that shit. If you take
Speaker 5: them the lower sometimes the way it grows is just funky.
Speaker 5: Like I don't know, there's so many factors that go
Speaker 5: into all that shit, but I keep losing my training thought. Guys,
Speaker 5: it's the weed. It's the kim dogg. That's the thing
Speaker 5: about It makes me very uh, forgetful and yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: I guess I should I shouldn't shit talk all these things.
Speaker 5: I'm so spoiled. I smoke all day and you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know how I would be if I, like,
Speaker 5: you know, woke up and you know, didn't smoke kind
Speaker 5: of at the end of the day. I'sm I'll probably
Speaker 5: be fucked. I probably wouldn't want to be on this
Speaker 5: podcast with you bright now, that's for sure, dude. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm sorry, guys, I am all over
Speaker 5: the place.
Speaker 2: But yeah, what strainer you most excited about?
Speaker 5: Honestly, like seeds or cuts or just in general.
Speaker 2: That's one on you is what what you know? What
Speaker 2: you're feeling? What you what? What are you most excited about?
Speaker 5: I guess lately I've been trying to do stuff for
Speaker 5: the old guys and the new guys, a little bit
Speaker 5: of legacy and the modern. But I mean, I think
Speaker 5: for me, I won't to be fair like to pop
Speaker 5: these the Kim the Kim Dog p's or whatever, the
Speaker 5: bidders P ninety one S one, the Tomas the Kim
Speaker 5: Dog b X. I'm excited for those, the super Silver
Speaker 5: Hayes F fives from H and L. H Morris King
Speaker 5: dog Uh. I'm really excited to run another. I got
Speaker 5: the ninety one going. It's I'm gonna flip that soon.
Speaker 5: The fifty six that haven't got to try the original
Speaker 5: sin uh from Sean Original Sin. I'm gonna get into
Speaker 5: some pop and some seeds eventually. I'm really excited for
Speaker 5: some of the Matt stuff. I want to run some
Speaker 5: more blueberry stuff. The I X in particular. I really
Speaker 5: like that there's and for the modern guys, and maybe
Speaker 5: people might make fun of like a micro exotic cut,
Speaker 5: but the it's not even really a mic exotic cut
Speaker 5: because it's just a selection. I think out of his
Speaker 5: ship actually got the cut. I think ZP is the
Speaker 5: guy that found out whatever. I got a kind of
Speaker 5: the red pop that I really like because I don't
Speaker 5: have access to any of the strawberry work stuff. It's
Speaker 5: like the that's one of the few flavors that I
Speaker 5: don't really have access to, so I did pick that
Speaker 5: up and it's kind of like I'm more artificial flavors.
Speaker 5: I am excited about doing a little bit of stuff
Speaker 5: with that, just like maybe hitting some of the older
Speaker 5: stuff to that just to see what like some gas
Speaker 5: and stuff or some not gas. I don't know why
Speaker 5: I say gas, but like some like Kim's and stuff
Speaker 5: to that East Coast, and I do like fusing some
Speaker 5: of the old stuff with some of the modern stuff
Speaker 5: just to see what's up. I don't know, I like
Speaker 5: a little bit of all that, but honestly, GMO stuff,
Speaker 5: I'm making some crosses with that or whatever, some hybrids
Speaker 5: whatever you want to say, Uh, what else am I
Speaker 5: excited for? I'm trying to think, my bad I don't know,
Speaker 5: Like I mean, I like some of the like more
Speaker 5: modern stuff like gorilla, doing some gorilla glue work, doing
Speaker 5: some of the Kim Dog reversal stuff. I don't know that.
Speaker 5: I pretty much grow what I like to grow, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So it's hard. I can't really
Speaker 5: sit here and be like, oh, I'm excited for these
Speaker 5: one particular things outside of like seeds, like I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm excited to pop some more skank dog and hopefully
Speaker 5: find another cut like that one that I had that
Speaker 5: would be really cool. I mean, I haven't really been
Speaker 5: messing with the auto flowers lately. I did, I did
Speaker 5: make some. I was really shocked by some autos that
Speaker 5: I made not too long ago. They spelled like bubble
Speaker 5: gum and kind of like had that flavor on the
Speaker 5: smoke a little bit, and they were good. But I mean,
Speaker 5: then let's be real, guys, like they're not compared to
Speaker 5: They're not gonna compare to some of this other shit.
Speaker 5: So I ended up turning into butter. And then I
Speaker 5: made a bunch of cookies, you know, like I put
Speaker 5: two rounces into this batch of cookies. So I'm really
Speaker 5: shocked on how fucked up I actually am from them.
Speaker 5: So I don't know. That's like the Community Service autos
Speaker 5: or whatever I was messing with. So I really like that, Yeah, man,
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know. Some of the older stuff
Speaker 5: that HNL gave me, some of the loose, loose stuff
Speaker 5: like the Destroyer stuff. I like the pop but yeah,
Speaker 5: mainly just like that super Silver Haze, the Kim Kim
Speaker 5: Dog pe uh. Some of the more modern stuff or
Speaker 5: some packs that I like to pop that I've had
Speaker 5: for a long time. M M. I don't know, guys.
Speaker 5: Some of the CSO stuff, like the t K stuff,
Speaker 5: I don't Some people don't like t K. I kind
Speaker 5: of I haven't had the cut, so I can't really
Speaker 5: speak on it. But like the hybrids that's Kale has
Speaker 5: made that I really I really like those, the LUPA headbands, dude,
Speaker 5: any anything with that in it, I mean, like the
Speaker 5: ocens and stuff like. I mean, it's so hard to
Speaker 5: to zone in on one thing, man, I apologize. I
Speaker 5: wish I could point you in the you know it's
Speaker 5: the meme, right, anything sour O, g Typers, Kim Doggs
Speaker 5: like anything related to that. GMOs. Yeah, that's kind of
Speaker 5: where I'm at. I kind of that's kind of where
Speaker 5: I want to be, you know, Like I said, I'll
Speaker 5: try this stuff, like I'll try the Dirty Taxis or whatever,
Speaker 5: the hypeie stuff, oh for hypee candy Gas. I really
Speaker 5: like the RS eleven. I know maybe people might not
Speaker 5: agree with that, but uh, I like the fifty four
Speaker 5: to two as well. That was cool. I really like
Speaker 5: the RS eleven actually, for if I was gonna do
Speaker 5: candy at this point, dude, I would probably run that,
Speaker 5: like candy gas kind of thing. Uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Everything else is like Gelatto or or something. I ran
Speaker 5: a bunch of that ship and it's all like I
Speaker 5: don't know, I don't it's cool up in Michigan. I
Speaker 5: forgot what was the Apple Gelato, Scottie Pippens, and uh,
Speaker 5: what was some of the other ones. I'm trying to
Speaker 5: think of what they were even called. Dude, I don't
Speaker 5: know at this point. Dude, I don't care. Don't you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know what. I'm trying to think that just
Speaker 5: some of those they they're cool, but they're also just
Speaker 5: I don't know, they're just forgettable. A lot of playing this.
Speaker 5: You know, if you like Gelato's and bakery Dowey stuff,
Speaker 5: I guess, or whatever, I don't. I don't know, man,
Speaker 5: or if you like candies. I mean I ran I
Speaker 5: ran probably every Runs under the Sun, Dude. I even
Speaker 5: ran the cartel runs Buck I ran them all. I
Speaker 5: ran them all, Dude, I don't. I don't know man
Speaker 5: runs and stuff. I don't know. I haven't ran Skittles
Speaker 5: cut so maybe I'm I don't know what's up, but
Speaker 5: I do have a Yeah, I don't know. This stuff
Speaker 5: is not really for me. I like some of it.
Speaker 5: It's cool, like it's cool to hit occasionally, you know,
Speaker 5: and see it or taste it or whatever. But anymore
Speaker 5: I just like filming the dam with the gorilla glues
Speaker 5: or the you know, I need to try to Kim Ford's.
Speaker 5: Everybody's been talking about him from Kalob but the s
Speaker 5: ones and stuff, But I haven't. I haven't ran those
Speaker 5: gem Theater Act two coming soon. I forget what is
Speaker 5: that a park thing?
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. Yeah, that's the Blue
Speaker 2: Dream reversal.
Speaker 5: I'm not a big Blue Dream fan, dude.
Speaker 2: I love those fucking hybrids, like some of them out
Speaker 2: of every out of every one, there was one that
Speaker 2: was like, oh hell yeah, I think there was. There
Speaker 2: was also like real fucking killers, and some of them
Speaker 2: death das.
Speaker 5: Star Blue Dream that sorry cuts you off, but death
Speaker 5: Star Blue Dream sounds kind of lit as the kids say, yeah,
Speaker 5: but yeah, sorry, sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 2: That first iteration made because like, you know, like I
Speaker 2: when you know, like I was one of the guys
Speaker 2: who like sold a bunch of not good Blue Dream
Speaker 2: for like fucking years. You hate you. It was like
Speaker 2: literally all you could get for a while.
Speaker 5: I'm the guy that bought it, and.
Speaker 2: I hate like, so I just did. I wasn't fucking
Speaker 2: jazzed about it. And then I actually saw a good
Speaker 2: example of the real blue Dream and was like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: this is not yebrids. It really had like an elevated
Speaker 2: fucking smoke to most of it.
Speaker 5: You know, well, yeah I should, I should clarify the cut,
Speaker 5: like you might get lost in the sauce on some
Speaker 5: of those hybrids. Dude, Like I would say, yeah, the
Speaker 5: the cut as tight as fuck, right, But I don't know,
Speaker 5: like I can't really speak on it too much because yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm coming from popping random seeds of hybrids of it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, like they like, let me clarify that dryer sheet.
Speaker 5: So it was, uh that that was tight. I like that.
Speaker 5: That thing was was excellent. Kind of uh my dog sorry,
Speaker 5: my dog stamped on the foot. Uh, but yeah, that
Speaker 5: was great. Yeah, I made some stuff.
Speaker 2: About fucking garbage cloud. I liked the yeah one, the
Speaker 2: wet dream was really it was. I was not excited,
Speaker 2: like that was one of the things that I got
Speaker 2: is that like secret tester thing, you know, the mystery
Speaker 2: once Yeah, and I was like, ah, well, because like
Speaker 2: you know, the picture was a crack pipe, so it
Speaker 2: was pretty obvious of which one I got once I
Speaker 2: figured that at first, you know, because I'm stupid I
Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck is this like a jewel
Speaker 2: or a battery? What the fuck is this thing? But yeah,
Speaker 2: I wasn't found out. No that's a crack pipe.
Speaker 5: I was like, ah, she loves but she loved them.
Speaker 5: She loved the Blue dream stuff. I like the Betsy's Nightmare.
Speaker 5: That one was pretty cool. Uh you know the one
Speaker 5: I really still need to run and do justice as
Speaker 5: the turt Queen. I think that one would probably be great.
Speaker 2: Assassin one was fucking dope. Yeah, I love the garbage Cloud,
Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't think just because I'm biased, I
Speaker 2: know that, you know, Like, don't get me wrong, I
Speaker 2: understand my bias coming into saying that, but objectively made
Speaker 2: fucking crazy killer weed.
Speaker 5: That was.
Speaker 2: The weirdly fucking potent, like in a way, like I
Speaker 2: do think that Shoreline has like a decent potency and
Speaker 2: like a hot effects that are in kind of a
Speaker 2: different direction a little bit, you know, like it's it's.
Speaker 5: Kind of harsh, like the actually smoke, like like for me,
Speaker 5: what does it? What like the the thing I just
Speaker 5: hit me like what it doesn't have for me? Like
Speaker 5: and it just could be the versions I've tried. It's
Speaker 5: always like you know, like some of the ogs and
Speaker 5: some of the other stuff out there, you'll taste it,
Speaker 5: and it's like some of the Peen ninety one stuff
Speaker 5: will do it too. I've tried from Crasso. It leaves
Speaker 5: like this like this after thing that's going on, that
Speaker 5: coating that I really enjoy. I never when I smoke, sure,
Speaker 5: I never taste it. I go, I'm like, man, I
Speaker 5: want more of that? Do you know that's what That's where.
Speaker 2: I definitely think that I don't know. It's almost like
Speaker 2: like the bracts, like the actual fucking like walls of
Speaker 2: the bracs are thinner or something, you know, like the
Speaker 2: to where like they're still getting like good So I mean, dude,
Speaker 2: you I've gotten where it's like, oh, that's a good
Speaker 2: sized bud finally, you know, and then you go to
Speaker 2: break it up and you're like, oh, no, you know,
Speaker 2: you could get nugs.
Speaker 5: I've gotten nugs off a shoreline that were every bit
Speaker 5: of like I mean, I don't know what to compare
Speaker 5: it to, but I mean good sized nugs. But like
Speaker 5: I said, it, it literally through like five branches going
Speaker 5: out from very low on the planet, and it was
Speaker 5: basically the leaves are so goddamn big dude, you know. Uh,
Speaker 5: it's basically just giant Yeah, like five giant nugs by
Speaker 5: the time it's all said and done.
Speaker 2: So it's just this smokeability of them is not as
Speaker 2: it's not if it were something denser, you know, like
Speaker 2: because they're big, but they're not like full if they
Speaker 2: look full visually. But like, I don't know, it's like
Speaker 2: I said, it's almost like the bract just doesn't have
Speaker 2: as much as.
Speaker 5: I know what you're say. And the when I headed
Speaker 5: to the East coast to the shoreline and tho those
Speaker 5: harbords that grew out of it, they were the same
Speaker 5: way that they were kind of then and weird and
Speaker 5: just yeah, I know what you're saying about it. I'm sure. Uh.
Speaker 2: Well, the smokeability really increased in the garbage cloud like
Speaker 2: the most shore ones, like the ones that I like
Speaker 2: that I kept in. Uh, I kind of see him
Speaker 2: as like almost like a blue shore, like it's partly there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they smoke like shit too, kind of you know, Like
Speaker 2: I mean, the effects are great and like the smoke
Speaker 2: is good or whatever, but like it doesn't smoke as
Speaker 2: good as the fucking the one that has more Blue
Speaker 2: Dream influence in it, because like I think a lot
Speaker 2: of it is that physical, the way that the is
Speaker 2: whatever it is physically just doesn't like fucking want to
Speaker 2: burn well, you know, like it doesn't smoked. It's not
Speaker 2: good for smoking, which is why I'm you know, the
Speaker 2: thing that I'm most excited about is that shore By
Speaker 2: Bonnet the Sledgeberry, because I think they'll be like, not
Speaker 2: only do I really think that blueberry fits in really
Speaker 2: we like it's a really killer fucking accent to shore
Speaker 2: like and falls in line with the profile really well,
Speaker 2: but I think they'll be remarkable uh improvements in how
Speaker 2: it grows for me, like all of the other Bonnet stuff,
Speaker 2: especially if it gets those fucking like hershey kish those
Speaker 2: like bubbly fucking bracs.
Speaker 5: Ooh I and you run more on that stuff I've
Speaker 5: been meaning too, which is hard. Man. There's been a
Speaker 5: like long like year of like.
Speaker 2: Moving like, oh shit, I didn't even think of that.
Speaker 5: Like trying to get keep yourself smoking and stuff like.
Speaker 5: It's been hard to pop seat. So I'm just now
Speaker 5: at a point where I can grow stuff out. Man.
Speaker 5: People ask me all the time, did you test this time,
Speaker 5: did you try this sounds like, dude, I'm just one dude,
Speaker 5: I have no help. I'm by myself. My wife helps
Speaker 5: me the best you can. But worry. You know, I
Speaker 5: get the ship when I get to it, and I
Speaker 5: apologize for being two months late. You know, it's part
Speaker 5: of it, dude, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so we went thirty one minutes over. You
Speaker 2: know we are worried about it. Saving all right, So
Speaker 2: do you have anything to say, plug anything like that?
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 5: No, brother, no, nothing to plug other than go check
Speaker 5: out the discord, The Breeders said to good Discord Matt
Speaker 5: sit h. We can't say I'm get in trouble, I think,
Speaker 5: but yeah, that kind of stuff that support the discord
Speaker 5: joined for five bucks. That's pretty much it, dude.
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Speaker 2: we we will. We will be back. Oh no, not,
Speaker 2: you're bad. We've shoot I mean you've just been hanging
Speaker 2: out chatting like uh like the camera wasn't even on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know pretty much. I forgot it was at times.
Speaker 5: My bad chat. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just thank you guys. We'll be back.
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