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Actually, Douglas High served as communications director 11 00:00:34,799 --> 00:00:39,560 for the Republican National Committees, worked on several successful Republican 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,399 Senate campaigns here in North Carolina. Doug, welcome back to 13 00:00:42,439 --> 00:00:43,359 the show. How are you, sir. 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: It's great to be with you. 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,079 Speaker 1: Thank you, absolutely. 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: So you sound fuller now that we are over on 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,240 the the FM dial once again. 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,159 Speaker 2: So funny how that works. 20 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. So you had a piece at the 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,520 Charlotte Observer and you wrote it with Andrew Bates. He 22 00:01:01,759 --> 00:01:05,719 was the senior Deputy White House Press Secretary under Biden. 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,680 He also served in the Obama administration. And so you 24 00:01:09,719 --> 00:01:13,200 guys are writing about the schedule of the North Carolina primary. 25 00:01:13,239 --> 00:01:15,719 But the first question I had is how did you 26 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:19,280 come to write this piece with him? How did that? 27 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: Well? 28 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: How did that happen? 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,599 Speaker 2: Andrew and I are from the same town of Lewisville, 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,159 that's about ten miles outside of Winston Salem. It's a 31 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,519 one stoplight town, so everybody sort of knows everybody from 32 00:01:31,519 --> 00:01:33,760 that town. Although Chris Paul is from Lewisville as well, 33 00:01:33,799 --> 00:01:36,920 and I've not actually met him, but so he seemed 34 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,920 like a natural person to reach out to and talk 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,920 about this idea of whether or not North Carolina should 36 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,359 go first or not, because I thought it would benefit 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,760 the state, it would benefit Democrats and it would benefit Republicans, 38 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,000 and he thought the same. 39 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: All right, So this is for the twenty twenty eight 40 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:58,359 presidential primary, right, this to move North Carolina ahead. We're 41 00:01:58,359 --> 00:02:01,799 already pretty early thing, right, didn't they move us up 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,840 a couple of years ago? Yeah? 43 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,159 Speaker 2: Yes, And obviously the Democrats have moved there, you know, 44 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,639 states in various orders. South Carolina, you know, having gone 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,120 first to help Joe Biden, they're looking for a new home. 46 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:19,280 Republican team set with Iowa and New Hampshire. Democrats are 47 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,080 looking for a place to go. And Andrew and I 48 00:02:22,159 --> 00:02:25,439 both think that North Carolina is a natural for a 49 00:02:25,439 --> 00:02:28,639 whole lot of reasons. One, it's a perennial close state. 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,080 It's a close state in the presidential election. You know, 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,639 Trump won it three times, but his biggest margin was 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,560 three point seven percent. It's a perennial close state for 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,840 gubernatorial and Senate campaigns, and we know that we'll have 54 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,719 Republican senators and Democratic governors. The last time there was 55 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:48,759 a double digit Senate win in North Carolina was in 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,439 nineteen seventy four. And it's also great for the economy. 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,800 A lot of people flying in and out of Charlotte 58 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,360 and RDU I mean, and they're stopping at that Bojangles 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,159 at the Charlotte Airport like I did last week I 60 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,919 was there. They're renting cars, they're buying gas, they're buying snacks, 61 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:09,240 bottled water, hotel rooms, office supplies, radio ads. And if 62 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,319 you're a restaurant like Midwood Smokehouse or Noble Smoke or 63 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Bridges and Shelby, you're gonna be rented out. They're gonna 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,039 be campaign events, you're going to be doing catering. It 65 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,599 is a job growth vehicle, all right. 66 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: So what is all right? What's the process then for 67 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,960 the Democrats to actually do something like this, And is 68 00:03:29,439 --> 00:03:34,680 Andrew Bates is a powerful enough to spearhead this thing. 69 00:03:35,439 --> 00:03:37,759 Speaker 2: Well, no one's powerful enough to do it on their own. 70 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,800 But the state party has to make an effort to 71 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:42,599 say we want to be first, and a lot of 72 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:45,080 states want to be first, so they'll have to put 73 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,120 together an RFP, a request for proposal, and bring it 74 00:03:49,159 --> 00:03:53,400 before the DMC, as other states will. South Carolina doesn't 75 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,599 want to lose it. It's been good for South Carolina. 76 00:03:56,039 --> 00:04:00,360 Iowa and New Hampshire have been fiercely protective of of 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,159 their first place status and then bring it up for 78 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,879 a vote in front of the DNC. And we think 79 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,280 we've made a strong case for why it should be 80 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,120 North Carolina, why it would be politically beneficial for Democrats 81 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,240 and for Republicans as well. And part of that, by 82 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,639 the way, Pete, is it also develops a whole lot 83 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:23,839 of homegrown political talent. If you work in politics long enough, 84 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,279 you meet a lot of people from campaigns who are 85 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,439 from Iowa and New Hampshire. And that makes sense. Why 86 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,120 would we not want to grow that talent? Democrats and 87 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,680 Republicans here in North Carolina. If I'm at the state 88 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,240 GOP headquarters on Hillsborough Street in Raleigh, I want to 89 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,000 be able to raise extra money and hire extra people 90 00:04:42,079 --> 00:04:44,519 and grow some of that talent and throw some of 91 00:04:44,519 --> 00:04:47,120 those spears that you get to do in the early 92 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,040 primary states. 93 00:04:48,399 --> 00:04:53,319 Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about the demographics though, because I'm 94 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,240 guessing the Democrats have already expressed through the last primary 95 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,560 seasons that they are open to moving it around. So 96 00:05:00,879 --> 00:05:02,800 and I don't know if they if they have settled 97 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,199 on South Carolina, But what is the what's a comparison 98 00:05:06,759 --> 00:05:10,759 between the South Carolina demographics and the North Carolina demographics 99 00:05:10,759 --> 00:05:13,639 that would son out Democrats. 100 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:19,519 Speaker 2: It's a it's a much more diverse state, and you 101 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,079 have cities obviously throughout the state. It's not like in Atlanta. 102 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,680 It's not like Georgia where there's one Atlanta and sort 103 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,680 of that's it. You have big cities like Charlotte, then 104 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,759 you have the smaller cities like Asheville and Wilmington, Winston 105 00:05:32,759 --> 00:05:35,959 Salem where I'm from, and a whole lot of rural areas. 106 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,000 So any candidate who campaigns there can't just try and 107 00:05:40,399 --> 00:05:42,759 win all the votes in the big city and forget 108 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,480 the other places. They'll have to go to Charlotte and Shelby, 109 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:48,920 They'll have to go to Winston Salem and Readsville and 110 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,759 Greenville and so many places like that. And it is 111 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,600 obviously one of the fastest growing states in the country, 112 00:05:55,319 --> 00:05:59,000 which tells I think Democrats and Republicans that it's that 113 00:05:59,079 --> 00:06:01,680 it's a state that is really on the move and 114 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:04,879 will become more important six years from now than it 115 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,439 is today. And another reason why we think that North 116 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,160 Carolina should be top of the list for Democrats because 117 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:14,800 they're making this move now, and if Republicans decide that 118 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,920 they don't want to be iow in New Hampshire first 119 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:20,279 in line as they've traditionally been, I push for North 120 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:21,920 Carolina for Republicans as well. 121 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,519 Speaker 1: So is there because I guess I'm thinking, like the 122 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,120 Democrat voter base that would vote in the primary in 123 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:35,000 South Carolina does that you know? Is there some sort 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,879 of are there lessons that the campaigns draw from the 125 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,839 turnout or from a candidate's performance in South Carolina? Because 126 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,120 I can understand why it's important South Carolina being important 127 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,240 for Republicans, but for Democrats it's less clear. 128 00:06:51,959 --> 00:06:54,439 Speaker 2: Well, it was because Joe Biden felt that he would 129 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,800 do very well there and Jim Clyburn was in a 130 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,319 position to make it happen, right, and that was it. 131 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:04,279 Part of that was the high African American voter base 132 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,079 and voter turnout and the Democratic Party in South Carolina, 133 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,199 where Biden did very well. Some of that is obviously 134 00:07:10,279 --> 00:07:14,040 still it is true in North Carolina as well. Biden 135 00:07:14,079 --> 00:07:17,800 certainly wouldn't be running And the number of HBCUs throughout 136 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:21,800 the state is another reason why, especially for Democrats, you 137 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,040 would think it would be a state that is high 138 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,000 on their list to move as early as they can. 139 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:29,720 And that's you know, whether you're talking about Johnson C. 140 00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:33,360 Smith or Winston Salem State in my hometown Elizabeth City, 141 00:07:33,639 --> 00:07:37,319 they are scattered throughout the state, all right. 142 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: So now look at the Republican side of it, you 143 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:43,160 seem to think that the GOP is not interested in 144 00:07:43,399 --> 00:07:45,920 moving states around for its primary. 145 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: Right now, it is still Iowa and New Hampshire first 146 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,160 and second, it doesn't look like that's going to change. 147 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:54,639 And I've worked in Iowa. I ran communications for the 148 00:07:54,639 --> 00:07:57,759 twenty twelve Iowa Caucus. I'd love the Iowa Caucus but 149 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,040 I would much rather have that come to North Carolina, 150 00:08:01,079 --> 00:08:03,279 and I think it would be better for the party 151 00:08:04,319 --> 00:08:07,040 both in a primary sense, but also in a general 152 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,920 to be in North Carolina early because it forces campaigns 153 00:08:10,959 --> 00:08:13,600 to organize. And one of the things if we see, 154 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:15,879 if we look back to two thousand and eight, the 155 00:08:15,879 --> 00:08:18,879 fact that the primary process went on so long for 156 00:08:18,959 --> 00:08:23,879 Democrats ultimately benefited Obama because he had a campaign structure 157 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,480 in place because he was still fighting with Hillary Clinton 158 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,879 in North Carolina in that late primary. If that had 159 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:34,120 happened early in the primary, it is a spearhead for 160 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,000 his campaign for the Clinton campaign as well, And that 161 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,320 is a lot of talent that would have stayed in 162 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,120 the state and remained there. And if I'm talking to 163 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,639 Democrats now, I would make that case for them as well. 164 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: What about you just mentioned the Iowa caucus. What about 165 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,360 the difference in the format caucus versus primary. Does one 166 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:58,039 of those mechanisms benefit a campaign more to be early. 167 00:08:58,759 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: You know, it's really hard to tell. There's nothing quite 168 00:09:01,639 --> 00:09:04,200 like the Iowa caucus. You'll have caucus sites that will 169 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,279 range from a school gymnasium much like a primary, to 170 00:09:08,799 --> 00:09:12,919 somebody's house, which obviously you never see happen in a 171 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,679 primary situation. It's a very different process and it certainly 172 00:09:17,759 --> 00:09:22,960 benefits organization more than necessarily fundraising and what have you. 173 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,559 But they're just very different ways of doing things. In 174 00:09:25,639 --> 00:09:28,559 Iowa's a very different state. And part of the reason 175 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,840 that Democrats left Iowa was one it wasn't competitive anymore, 176 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,600 and the other was the demographics didn't really work for 177 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:39,559 their voting base. South Carolina sort of made sense for 178 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,519 the primary for them for their voter base, but it 179 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,639 certainly didn't make sense for a general. You know, we 180 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,360 didn't have that. The Senate races are never in play, 181 00:09:47,399 --> 00:09:51,200 the presidential races are never in play. Gubernatorials. North Carolina 182 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:51,799 has all of that. 183 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: What about the open primaries? You've got to unaffiliated voters, right, 184 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:01,639 does that open up the parties to shin Anagan's Operation 185 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:07,639 Chaos type of organized efforts or maybe does it produce 186 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,559 more quote unquote moderate candidates because you do have a 187 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,559 lot of unaffiliateds that may be crossing over. 188 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rushian Ball always talked about Operation Chaos, and it 189 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,279 was a great idea that never really happened. And it's 190 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,240 one of those things that we think that campaigns sort 191 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,799 of have the time to pull off, and they really don't. 192 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,519 There's been no campaign I've worked on when we've ever had, 193 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,039 you know, not enough on our plate that we could 194 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,519 meddle in another primary as well. We wish we could have, 195 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:41,240 we couldn't. And for your unaffiliated voters, they're sort of 196 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:43,639 looking at the field as well to determine which way 197 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,440 they want to go. But either party can say they 198 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,519 want an open or a closed primary. That's up to 199 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,399 the political party. 200 00:10:50,039 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not aware of any any party leaders that 201 00:10:53,279 --> 00:10:55,759 are saying that they want to do that on either side, 202 00:10:55,799 --> 00:10:58,919 So I don't see that changing. We'll leave it there. 203 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,240 I appreciate you making looking some time for us today, 204 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:03,840 Doug High He served as the comms director for the 205 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,720 RNC and on several Republican Senate campaigns as well. Thanks 206 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,960 for your time, and you can read the piece of 207 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:09,799 the Charlotte Observer. 208 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thanks Doug. 209 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:11,799 Speaker 1: Take care. 210 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: You know. 211 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: Stories are powerful. 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We just had him on and he said, 231 00:12:21,639 --> 00:12:26,639 you know about the operation Chaos and didn't really work, 232 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:29,320 And that was always my understanding of it as well. However, 233 00:12:29,919 --> 00:12:32,840 there are examples in North Carolina now that I think 234 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:39,279 there's like four or five candidates that have now filed 235 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,279 to run as Republicans in various districts, but they're not. 236 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,120 They don't have voting records that match a you know, 237 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:52,960 Republican viewpoint. They have voted in Democrat primaries. So there 238 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,120 are several of these people running for you know, local 239 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,879 races around the state. I think there's one member of 240 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,879 there's one. Yeah, there's one running in Tim Moore's district 241 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,240 for Congress. She's not a Republican, but she is registered 242 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,600 as a Republican now and she's going to try to 243 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:14,679 primary him. I don't know how she thinks that's going 244 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,720 to work if she has to, you know, go and 245 00:13:17,799 --> 00:13:20,679 appear in front of any kind of an audience that's 246 00:13:20,799 --> 00:13:24,240 voting in the Republican primary. But we shall see. There 247 00:13:24,279 --> 00:13:29,080 are a couple of these candidates. Also this story out 248 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:34,919 of the New York Post. The New York City Democratic 249 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,000 Socialists of America the DSSA, has issued a rallying cry 250 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:46,559 for its members to infiltrate parent and community groups as 251 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,240 they fight to push their agenda through government enemies, including 252 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,200 Governor Kathy Hockel. The newly emboldened local chapter of the 253 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,080 Democrats Socialist of America's pushing its members in a takeover 254 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,519 of lower lefe level government entities to try to supercharge 255 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,720 their far left policies under the new face of their movement. 256 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:13,240 The mayor elect Zoron mamdanin quote, we must plug Zoron 257 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:19,480 organizers and supporters into lower level city institutions en mass. 258 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,399 That's according to the co chair of the New York 259 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:30,480 City DSA, Grace Mauser. She wrote this in the magazine Jacobin, 260 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,399 which is the socialist magazine which I think sells advertising, 261 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,360 which is kind of weird, calls itself the leading voice 262 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,639 of the American left. She says New York City has 263 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,320 hundreds of small semi governmental bodies that are typically ceded 264 00:14:47,039 --> 00:14:52,080 to less progressive forces, such as community boards, parent teacher associations, 265 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:57,360 and community education councils. She urged the nearly twelve thousand 266 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,679 members as well as other Mamdani supporters, to take advantage 267 00:15:00,679 --> 00:15:04,600 of volunteer spots at libraries and parks. If they can't 268 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,320 get a city seat like in city government, you can 269 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,000 still take advantage of volunteer spots. Quote. We have the 270 00:15:14,039 --> 00:15:17,399 opportunity to create a sense of mass ownership over the 271 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,159 city and build support for Zorn's agenda from the bottom 272 00:15:21,159 --> 00:15:24,679 of city government to the top. She, by the way, 273 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:35,240 sits on Mom Donnie's Transition Committee for Small Businesses. Yeah, okay, 274 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,080 aren't you a socialist? Though? Like okay, she's done the 275 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,360 committee for the Transition Committee for Small Businesses and Minority 276 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:49,320 and women owned business Enterprise. She said the infiltration would 277 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,240 be key in rallying the low levels of government to 278 00:15:53,399 --> 00:15:56,799 enact their far left agenda despite the objection of their 279 00:15:57,159 --> 00:16:01,720 enemies quote unquote that's the word she uses. Their enemies 280 00:16:03,399 --> 00:16:10,440 named specifically Governor Kathy Hokeel because the governor despite the 281 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,799 fact that she endorsed Mom Donnie, who then did not 282 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,200 endorse her. But she has said that she would not 283 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:23,799 support raising, you know, income taxes in the city. I 284 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,039 think she also expressed opposition to the free quote unquote 285 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:33,240 free buses. One political insider quoted in the story here 286 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:37,440 at the New York Post Ken Friedman or Friedman, It's 287 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:45,440 Fry Friedman anyway. He says they're young, politically misguided revolutionaries 288 00:16:45,559 --> 00:16:48,120 in a big hurry for the revolution to begin on 289 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,840 January first, twenty twenty six. They should use the next 290 00:16:51,919 --> 00:16:58,600 month to study the success rates of previous socialist revolutions, 291 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:02,320 but that would be impossible because real socialism has never 292 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,839 been tried, or so we are told. 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This is according to the Associated Press. 317 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:40,960 Australian federal and state government leaders agreed to immediately overhaul 318 00:18:41,519 --> 00:18:46,519 already tough national gun control laws after a mass shooting 319 00:18:46,599 --> 00:18:52,319 targeted a Honukkah celebration on Sydney's Bondai Beach, leaving at 320 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:57,160 least fifteen people dead. Fifteen dead is the latest count 321 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:02,200 that I have heard. Forty two others injured. The action 322 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:09,759 would include renegotiating the landmark National Firearms Agreement that virtually 323 00:19:09,839 --> 00:19:14,799 banned rapid fire rifles after a loan gunman killed thirty 324 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:19,480 five people in Tasmania back in nineteen ninety six, galvanizing 325 00:19:19,519 --> 00:19:23,440 the country into action. Remember they went around and confiscated 326 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,079 the firearms. Nobody was allowed to buy the guns, have 327 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,160 the guns all of that. They melted them all down, 328 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,200 and that was supposed to be the model for all 329 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:38,039 Western countries, all countries, everybody really across the planet. That's 330 00:19:38,079 --> 00:19:41,799 the way you reduce these types of mass shootings is 331 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,039 you take up all the guns, except of course from 332 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,640 police and farmers. Yeah, farmers apparently get a carve out, 333 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,119 which I was not aware of that but kind of 334 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:58,400 makes sense. But why, I mean, these guys got guns. 335 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,839 The two men that opened fire apparently a father and 336 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:14,000 son team from Pakistan. Although the son was born in Australia, 337 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:20,880 the father immigrated and then became a citizen and for 338 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,920 some reason was allowed to own a firearm. I'm not 339 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,799 sure if he was a farmer. But now they're like, okay, well, 340 00:20:28,839 --> 00:20:31,880 you know what we could do is we can overhaul, 341 00:20:32,279 --> 00:20:35,359 as they say, the AP says, we can overhaul the 342 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:41,759 law that allows for non citizens or naturalized citizens to 343 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:48,119 get guns, so it would only be open gun ownership 344 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:55,519 would only be permitted for citizens like the son. So 345 00:20:56,319 --> 00:21:01,759 not really sure how this law overhaul would actually have 346 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:09,119 prevented this shooting. Also, we find out that the sun 347 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:15,160 was in fact on the government's radar once again a 348 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:18,880 known wolf, if you will, not a lone wolf. The 349 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,319 violence erupted at the end of a summer day when 350 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,440 thousands had flocked to Bandai Beach, an icon of Australia's 351 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,920 cultural life. They included hundreds that were gathered for the 352 00:21:31,039 --> 00:21:34,759 Hanukkah by the Sea event celebrating the start of the 353 00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:37,880 eight day Hanuka festival with food, face painting and the 354 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:44,599 petting zoo. So a couple of Pakistani guys Muslim as 355 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,000 I understand it, opened fire on a bunch of Jewish 356 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,160 people celebrating the start of Honikkah. We may never know 357 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,720 the motive here. People like that's just the way these 358 00:21:56,759 --> 00:22:04,119 things go. Two police officers injured treated in hospitals along 359 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:12,920 with the forty others they killed. These assassins, these maniacs 360 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:21,519 killed fifteen people ages from ten to eighty seven years old, 361 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,279 including a rabbi, a Holocaust survivor, and a ten year 362 00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:31,079 old girl. Police shot the two suspected shooters. There was 363 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,880 a fifty year old father died at the scene. They 364 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,839 went over they were standing up above, they were like 365 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,079 over this. They were on a pedestrian bridge and so 366 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,359 they sort of were at the center at the top 367 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,680 of the bridge and they were shooting down into the crowd. 368 00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:54,680 His twenty four year old son is in a coma 369 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,880 in a hospital. This is why I said, we may 370 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:05,519 never know why they did this. The Prime Minister of 371 00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:12,200 Australia not exactly a profiling courage in my mind on 372 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:18,279 all of This guy's name is Anthony Albanese and he 373 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,000 confirmed that Australia's main domestic spy agency, the Australian Security 374 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:28,480 Intelligence Agency, had investigated The Sun for six months. Back 375 00:23:28,519 --> 00:23:33,799 in twenty nineteen, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported that ASIO, 376 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:38,759 which is the Security Intelligence Agency ASIO, had examined The 377 00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:43,240 Sun's ties to a Sydney based Islamic state group cell. 378 00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:50,240 Albany's did not describe the associates, but said ASIO was 379 00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:53,640 interested in them rather than the Sun, So he just happened. 380 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,200 So they were actually looking at some other people that 381 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:02,920 were connected to this isis cell. And the shooter, the 382 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,559 twenty four year old I guess at that point he 383 00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:07,960 would have been like eighteen, and he was just, you know, 384 00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:12,920 one of the people that were associated with the cell, 385 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:18,920 so they weren't investigating him, Okay, right, well, because that 386 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,680 makes sense Hey, guys, we found an ISIS cell in Sydney. 387 00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:26,319 We should look into the people. Oh no, no, but 388 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,640 not all of them. We're just targeting like this, these 389 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,680 one or two guys over here that are part of 390 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,279 the cell. No need to look into all of the 391 00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:39,000 other people that are in the terrorist cell. He was 392 00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:42,480 examined on the basis of being associated with others and 393 00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:45,720 the assessment was made that there was no indication of 394 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,359 any ongoing threat or threat of him engaging in violence, 395 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:59,039 said Albany. So that was wrong. No, he did pose 396 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:04,160 a threat. He did pose a threat for potentially engaging 397 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,039 in violence, because he did. He was the one that 398 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,200 was jumped from behind in that now viral video footage 399 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,920 that we have seen from the attack. He had walked 400 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,720 down off the bridge and was in a grassy area 401 00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:24,240 next to the parking lot, and a guy crouches behind 402 00:25:24,279 --> 00:25:27,480 one of the cars and sneaks up behind the twenty 403 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,720 four year old, jumps on him and gets the gun 404 00:25:30,759 --> 00:25:35,119 from him, points the gun at him, and then apparently 405 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,839 he is shot in his shoulder and his arm, and 406 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,359 he puts the gun down while the twenty four year 407 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,759 old apparently goes back up onto the bridge. He let 408 00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:48,160 him go. He goes back up onto the bridge with 409 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:53,319 his dad, where they get taken out. There are also 410 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,880 reports that some of the law enforcement officers did not 411 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:05,160 return fire. They were frozen in panic and fear. Don't 412 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,079 know if that's true, but that's one that is one 413 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,960 of the reports I have heard. All Right, if you're 414 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,799 listening to this show, you know I try to keep 415 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:13,559 up with all sorts of current events, and I know 416 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,039 you do too, And you've probably heard me say get 417 00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:20,039 your news from multiple sources. Why Well, because it's how 418 00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:22,640 you detect media bias, which is why I've been so 419 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,359 impressed with ground News. 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Check dot ground, dot news slash Pete. 430 00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,000 Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen percent off 431 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,279 any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to get unlimited 432 00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:08,599 access to every feature. Your subscription then not only helps 433 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,440 my podcast, but it also supports ground News as they 434 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,240 make the media landscape more transparent. Let me jump over 435 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,359 here and chat with James. Hello, James, welcome to the show. 436 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 3: Hey, how are you doing this good? How are you well? 437 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,720 I'm enjoying watching the usual suspects act in the exact 438 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:37,160 usual manner. The head of the government in New South Wales, 439 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,240 which is where this took place, I noticed that before 440 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,119 anyone had any information at all, the very first thing 441 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,279 he came out and demanded was stricter gun laws and 442 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,039 to take more firearms away from people. 443 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Chris Men's the premiere of New South Wales, 444 00:27:55,319 --> 00:27:57,599 and who said, if you're not a farmer, you're not 445 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,960 involved in agriculture, Why didn't Why do you need these 446 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,599 massive weapons that put the public in danger and make 447 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,759 life dangerous and difficult for New South Wales police? 448 00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 3: Right? And the thing is that the last time I checked, 449 00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:14,319 you don't use rifles and shotguns to plow fields. 450 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: No, that's why I was kind of scratching my head 451 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,279 on that one too, Like farmers are allowed to have 452 00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:23,559 the gun, but I'm not sure exactly how that aids 453 00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:27,079 them in the farming. I understand for protection when you're out, 454 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,160 you know, you know, tending fields or whatever. But that's 455 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,559 the same reason why anybody would want to own a 456 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:36,960 firearm is for Texas. 457 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's true, but you see, it appears that these 458 00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:43,519 people are a little bit even further to the left 459 00:28:43,559 --> 00:28:47,880 than are beloved progressive as far as the disarmed the 460 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,640 law abiding citizen, because the criminal is never going to 461 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,599 obey the law anyway. 462 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, precisely. I bet some people wish they had a 463 00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:56,200 firearm over the weekend at that beach. 464 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,359 Speaker 3: Oh. One other thing, yeah, and if I may, Uh, 465 00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:04,839 this happened in Sydney and Sydney just a few months 466 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:14,119 ago had a pro terrorist demonstration of newly imported, mostly 467 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:19,599 newly imported members of the religion the Peace who were 468 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,599 chanting gas the Jews. 469 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:25,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, these people went out and protested at the 470 00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:26,759 Sydney Opera House. 471 00:29:27,359 --> 00:29:29,559 Speaker 3: Right, which is broad and walking distance of the beach. 472 00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:35,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, pro Hamas. Yeah. And then and Australia has had 473 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:41,519 a rash of attacks on Jews over the last two year. 474 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: Government hasn't done anything. 475 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,759 Speaker 1: Correct, very little. Yeah, James, I appreciate the call. Great points. 476 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:51,720 Uh the uh. The leader of Australia, the Prime Minister Albany's, 477 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:56,440 had proposed new gun restrictions, including limiting the number of 478 00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:01,920 guns that a licensed owner can obtain and reviewing existing 479 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,960 licenses over time, just to make sure, like maybe you're 480 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:11,039 like the fifty year old dead father that carried out 481 00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:15,920 the attack, who came to Australia in nineteen ninety eight 482 00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:21,799 on a student visa and became a permanent resident after 483 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:27,440 marrying a local woman. Officials would not confirm at the 484 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,720 time of this publication by the AP, they would not 485 00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:34,559 confirm what country he had migrated from. They did not 486 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,559 want to say that because I think everybody now, I 487 00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:40,759 think we can all agree that the real concern here 488 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:51,400 is the Islamophobia, right, That's the real concern. His proposals 489 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,519 were announced after the authorities revealed that the older suspected 490 00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:58,119 gunman had held a gun license for a decade and 491 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:04,720 had amassed his six guns legally. So this is the 492 00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:08,240 system you put in place, was this is the one 493 00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:11,359 you you turned you made everybody turn over their guns. 494 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,720 And this is the system you put in place that 495 00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:18,519 allowed the jihadist guy who came on a student visa 496 00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:24,119 married an Australian woman in order to stay. Well, I 497 00:31:24,119 --> 00:31:26,279 don't know if it was if it was in order 498 00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:28,680 to stay, but you know that was one of the benefits. 499 00:31:29,079 --> 00:31:32,960 He gets to stay, and then he gets a license, 500 00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:36,920 and then he can buy an arsenal of six guns, 501 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,240 which a lot of my friends would say, it's like, 502 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:42,519 that's not even like you're not even counted as a 503 00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:46,920 collector at just six. You gotta get way more. So 504 00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:50,359 this is the system that you put in place. His 505 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,079 son who did not have a gun license, so that's 506 00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:55,480 why he wasn't shooting any of the Oh no weight 507 00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:59,480 he was, but he didn't have a license. I guess 508 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:05,000 he shot ads guns. See like, this is the absurdity 509 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,720 of it. You built this program. This is what you 510 00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:11,319 decided to do when you told everybody else to disarm. 511 00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:15,200 And the guy who wants to use the guns for 512 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,599 a terrorist attack, which is what this was, right, he 513 00:32:19,759 --> 00:32:23,160 is not dissuaded from getting guns. He in fact did 514 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,000 it legally, which his son could have done as well, 515 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,039 because while he may have been Palin around with ICE's 516 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,720 terrorist cells, doesn't mean he was ever the subject of 517 00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:38,960 the investigation itself. See it's all very clear. All right. 518 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,319 That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 519 00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:43,400 for listening. 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