Speaker 1: Sorry, we are late, but we are here.
Speaker 2: Hi Plana Jenny with I'm still fun. Thanks for hanging
Speaker 2: out with us every single week. Uh this writers, we're
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Speaker 1: You're on a podcast.
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Speaker 1: I ten.
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, if you don't know who it is,
Speaker 2: you may have seen him on your local bumble app.
Speaker 2: Max works over at KF A N and he came
Speaker 2: in because he got the scent of two women and
Speaker 2: it lured him in.
Speaker 1: I need to be in there. Yeah, like a cartoon
Speaker 1: character like Garfield following the Sonya Yeah, yeah, get your well.
Speaker 1: That was a nice little intro to the podcast. There
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 2: Max is one of our I think universally favorites in
Speaker 2: the entire building.
Speaker 1: We love Max, great energy, he's wild, but ladies just
Speaker 1: be careful. Just batch with him on bumble that man
Speaker 1: like hill Era, I have some fun. We'll also air
Speaker 1: it out on the radio for sure. So you did
Speaker 1: to prepare yourself. We are we are late.
Speaker 2: So I do apologize because I I drove back yesterday
Speaker 2: and I actually could have potentially done our podcast, but
Speaker 2: I would have had to come straight in to do it,
Speaker 2: taking a one hour break. So I went to Door County,
Speaker 2: which is my second year going and I love Door County.
Speaker 2: You should go to Door County, Jenny.
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up going there a couple of
Speaker 1: times because it's not it's like two and a half
Speaker 1: hours from my hometown. It's not there. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: haven't been there since I was pretty young.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I also my sister did a half marathon there like
Speaker 1: seven eight years ago, so I was there for that,
Speaker 1: but that was a quick trip. I didn't really get
Speaker 1: to explore.
Speaker 2: I feel like when I bring it up to people
Speaker 2: around here, that's what they say, they went once or
Speaker 2: twice when they were younger, but they haven't really gone
Speaker 2: as an.
Speaker 1: Adult, and it's really it's really cute.
Speaker 2: I will not be going back in the near future,
Speaker 2: probably just because I've done it two years in a row.
Speaker 2: I'm good and I got We chose Door County. Initially,
Speaker 2: my two friends Abby Heidi and myself, they're my college roommates,
Speaker 2: and we met there because it was kind of it's
Speaker 2: a longer drive for them, but it was a kind of.
Speaker 1: Like a middle point that we could.
Speaker 2: We were going back and forth between Door County and
Speaker 2: like places in Michigan, and after this year Heidi was like,
Speaker 2: I'm good with Door County Now. I was like, me too,
Speaker 2: because we brought our families this year. But I think,
Speaker 2: you know, we'd go to like Michigan or something. You know,
Speaker 2: just we try to find places that are less expensive,
Speaker 2: but then you still end up spending a ton of
Speaker 2: money on food and everything, especially bringing our families this year.
Speaker 2: But I would highly suggest it. It's like a cute
Speaker 2: just a cute little town. It's an easy drive from
Speaker 2: the Twin Cities. It took us like five and a
Speaker 2: half hours, and we're out on the other side, like
Speaker 2: out in Minnetrista, so it could be less for other people.
Speaker 2: And just I don't know. I think it's like you
Speaker 2: have so many things. You have hiking, cute little shops,
Speaker 2: good food wineries, just you have all the things you
Speaker 2: would need for Like I think a perfect girls trip basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you say, because I know you said
Speaker 1: you were going to do some of the same things
Speaker 1: you did last year, So what are the things that
Speaker 1: you did both times that you would recommend someone to do.
Speaker 2: We did a lot of food things the same, so like,
Speaker 2: I like a place called good Eggs, One Pound Burritos,
Speaker 2: Wild Tomato Pizza, Door County Creamery is my favorite. I
Speaker 2: get a million ice cream cones. They're amazing sandwiches and shops,
Speaker 2: Sister Gold And we went back to again actual excursions
Speaker 2: Washington Island.
Speaker 1: You take a ferry over.
Speaker 2: We got honked at because it has a famous curvy road.
Speaker 2: You get out and take a picture and a car
Speaker 2: was coming. They hanked Jake and I scared the crap
Speaker 2: out of us. They were far away, yeah, but it's
Speaker 2: one of those things where it scares you and you're
Speaker 2: angry at them, but really they were doing you a
Speaker 2: favor because they're giving.
Speaker 1: You a heads up we're coming. But I was like, ah,
Speaker 1: like so mad about it.
Speaker 2: But it was awesome, And I feel like there was
Speaker 2: like something specific I was going to share about the trip,
Speaker 2: but I don't know what it is now.
Speaker 1: Any crazy stories, not really, I mean those family friends Heidi.
Speaker 2: So Heidi did gift us so in college because you know,
Speaker 2: now I'm I'm considered old, right. We recorded everything in
Speaker 2: college on Heidi's video camera. Okay, for years she's had
Speaker 2: the tapes, we have no way of watching them. She
Speaker 2: finally transferred those to little USB drives for me and Abby,
Speaker 2: so we popped them in her computer. When I tell you,
Speaker 2: I have never felt more uncomfortable watching anything in my life.
Speaker 2: It is so cringey to watch your eighteen year old self.
Speaker 2: First of all, not a single video was filmed anytime
Speaker 2: before three am. Every video of hours we were up
Speaker 2: fully awake doing and I was like, I thought I
Speaker 2: always went to bed early. Apparently not Apparently I was
Speaker 2: between midnight three five am. We were constantly doing weird
Speaker 2: stuff in our dorms, things I didn't remember doing. We
Speaker 2: videoed spring breaks, so how our dorms worked were kind
Speaker 2: of cool. You had four girls in a room and
Speaker 2: right next to your room before guys in a room,
Speaker 2: so it was like co ed dorm floors. So we
Speaker 2: had like where we each had to do a proposal
Speaker 2: to the guys next door. We filmed that we filmed,
Speaker 2: I mean, we were doing early content Jenny, where we
Speaker 2: had to re enact what each person's personality was. So
Speaker 2: it would be like, okay, you're coming in, Okay, open
Speaker 2: the door, and Heidi running through because she was the
Speaker 2: klepto of our group. And then Heidi would dress up
Speaker 2: as a man and she'd come in and offer five
Speaker 2: dollars to see Abby's boobs because Abby was the hoochie
Speaker 2: mama of the group. If you will, someone comes up
Speaker 2: and punches me in the ass because I'm the whiner
Speaker 2: of the group and I'm whining on the ground. Amy
Speaker 2: was like the jerk of the group or something. It
Speaker 2: was just like I don't know. I was like this
Speaker 2: is and it was so cringey. My voice I should
Speaker 2: play audio, Jake and all of them like everyone sounds
Speaker 2: kind of the same, but you I do not know
Speaker 2: what my voice was. First of all, very southern, way
Speaker 2: more southern than it is now, but also like there
Speaker 2: was no depth to it at all. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: don't even have a deep voice now, but like it
Speaker 2: is bizarre, Jake, and they're like, your teeth look different.
Speaker 1: Did you get something done to your teeth? Since then?
Speaker 2: I was like in Reno, I got six month braces,
Speaker 2: but like they're like, maybe your teeth changing changed your voice,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, Like I hated seeing it.
Speaker 2: There were lots of moments of me dancing and singing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I'm glad to have the memories. So that was
Speaker 2: a highlight for me. Watching that the tapes, it was
Speaker 2: cringey but great.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're also probably going to look back
Speaker 1: on like certain things that we've done on like either
Speaker 1: the Morning Show or your show now a cult because
Speaker 1: I mean I played I think it was the first
Speaker 1: time I ever celebrated a birthday with you guys on
Speaker 1: the show. And so there was a Facebook live video
Speaker 1: and I think I got like a memory on Facebook
Speaker 1: for my birthday this past year. Yeah, and so Andrew
Speaker 1: and I watched the whole thing and it wasn't bad,
Speaker 1: but it was not the video to watch sitting next
Speaker 1: to your boyfriend when you were super single back then,
Speaker 1: and we were talking about all of my craziness and stuff,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't want him to be
Speaker 1: like hearing all this stuff, Like it's not like he
Speaker 1: doesn't know like me being single and doing whatever I wanted,
Speaker 1: but it's still like a respect level of like, I
Speaker 1: would prefer you not having to watch this. Yeah, I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: there's probably so many things that exist out there now
Speaker 1: so from the show, and I won't completely reveal this.
Speaker 2: A former show member reached out to me years ago
Speaker 2: and asked me to delete videos on the Dave Ryan
Speaker 2: Show YouTube. Yeah, I know, and I don't think I
Speaker 2: deleted them because I was I'll be honest. I was
Speaker 2: like afraid I would get in trouble for deleting them
Speaker 2: because I wasn't on the show at the time and
Speaker 2: that channel is like Dave's channel, not mine. But I
Speaker 2: did go in and like hide them, like make them
Speaker 2: private where no one can see them except for the
Speaker 2: people who have the channel. Yeah, but I it was
Speaker 2: because I think they were afraid that they were things
Speaker 2: that weren't politically correct anymore.
Speaker 1: That would go And I was like totally respect that.
Speaker 2: And I would hope, like if I ever left and
Speaker 2: someone had control of that channel and I reached out
Speaker 2: and asked them because I was afraid of like affecting
Speaker 2: me and my reputation, I would hope that they would
Speaker 2: do that for me. Yeah, because times have changed in
Speaker 2: just the time that you and I have been here,
Speaker 2: and obviously there will be audio I pull for myself
Speaker 2: when I was younger in Indiana, I'm like, well, nope,
Speaker 2: couldn't play that today.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's nah.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't have to have it on like
Speaker 2: a CD somewhere so I could listen to it, but
Speaker 2: no one else can ever find it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bizarre. How is your weekend? What did you do? Uh? Okay,
Speaker 1: So you know those videos that you might see on
Speaker 1: Facebook or TikTok or Instagram where it's like a little
Speaker 1: kid and they're at there a school concert and they're
Speaker 1: like looking around in the crowd for their parent, and
Speaker 1: they're starting to get really sad because they don't see
Speaker 1: their parent, and then they get really happen. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So I was that kid, except for I never found
Speaker 1: my parents. So I just cried this weekend. Oh So
Speaker 1: what happened was I head down for the Challenge this
Speaker 1: past Saturday, which is an event that we do with
Speaker 1: the Salvation Army where if you're part of it, you
Speaker 1: can repel down a building whatever. So Andrew had a
Speaker 1: showing set up down an Egan where the building is
Speaker 1: and I was supposed to be there a little bit
Speaker 1: before ten. I was scheduled to be there at ten,
Speaker 1: but needed to get there a little bit early to
Speaker 1: register or whatever. While we're sitting around, and Andrew had
Speaker 1: to drive separately, so he got there a little bit
Speaker 1: later than me, and I had to put my phone
Speaker 1: and all my belongings in a bag, and so I
Speaker 1: put it in a bag and I had no access
Speaker 1: to it, and we're sitting around with our equipment on,
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, we don't have you guys set
Speaker 1: to go down till eleven. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: that sucks because I'm pretty sure Andrew has to get
Speaker 1: to a showing around eleven nearby. And so finally they
Speaker 1: get us up and I've done it before, so I
Speaker 1: know how to get to the front of the line
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, to be and stuff. And I probably
Speaker 1: went down at like ten fifty five, and I was
Speaker 1: done by like eleven o four. Well, I was down
Speaker 1: in like probably twenty seconds, honestly, But then they had
Speaker 1: me do some videos and all this stuff, and when
Speaker 1: I went to grab my phone it was eleven oh
Speaker 1: five and at ten fifty Andret texted me being like
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I had to leave to go to the show.
Speaker 1: So I get down there and there's nobody there. I
Speaker 1: just repelled down a building and like, not that I
Speaker 1: needed someone to see it, but like there are big
Speaker 1: moments in your life. You do things and you want
Speaker 1: someone there to like share it with. Yeah, so Andre
Speaker 1: to leave. I'm in my emotions, okay, Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: upset because it's not his fault. When it comes down
Speaker 1: to it, it's not his fault. I should have I
Speaker 1: kind of figured I probably wouldn't be going down till
Speaker 1: about ten thirty, but like I still was hoping that
Speaker 1: he didn't schedule a show un till later because I
Speaker 1: didn't know what time it was. So I called my
Speaker 1: mom and I'm crying and I'm like, and you could
Speaker 1: be there, and I know it's not his fault, but
Speaker 1: like I'm just sad, Like I literally repelled bel dated
Speaker 1: and nobody even saw me, Like we didn't even have
Speaker 1: katiew you staff there, Like yeah, he was there. I
Speaker 1: got done, grabbed my shit and left, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh man, So then that makes me so sad.
Speaker 1: I because I have I do know the video, Like
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 2: The cutest video of all of his little Christmas concert
Speaker 2: of her. Like sad and then she I have that
Speaker 2: video and it's one of my favorite videos ever of
Speaker 2: her seeing me and a little light in her eyes.
Speaker 2: So I was imagining her if she looked around and
Speaker 2: never saw me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, love me and so Andrew had like plans to
Speaker 1: play pickaball with a friend later and so he gets
Speaker 1: home later that afternoon and I am just still sad,
Speaker 1: and I told him. I was like, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: really honest, I'm really sad you weren't there, and I
Speaker 1: understand that it's not your fault, but like, it doesn't
Speaker 1: take away from the fact that I'm just like very sad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, you know, of course they're right away.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's not my fault. Like I had the showing,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect you to take that long to go down,
Speaker 1: And it's true, I didn't expect it to take that
Speaker 1: long either. So I was like, I totally understand where
Speaker 1: you're at. I just want you to know how I'm
Speaker 1: feeling because I just was sad because when you do
Speaker 1: big things in your life, you remember the moments of
Speaker 1: the people who show up for you, and he was there,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't care, you know. Yeah, But I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: Like my first triathlon, I had a couple of girlfriends
Speaker 1: say that they would come and cheer me on, and
Speaker 1: they didn't come, and they like, oh, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: I was hungover, I blah blah blah blah, and I
Speaker 1: and those moments like do matter to people, you know?
Speaker 1: So anyways, I was sad and I had planned like
Speaker 1: a surprise date night thing for us that night, and
Speaker 1: he like asked if we were still going. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: We're still going. I'm sad, but I'm not mad at you,
Speaker 1: because it's not fair to be mad, Like it's not
Speaker 1: in the end, it's not your faults. Like, do I
Speaker 1: wish you would have scheduled your showing a little bit
Speaker 1: later because you knew that I had that sure, But
Speaker 1: like I can't dictate everything about your job, and you
Speaker 1: did probably schedule at a time that made sense according
Speaker 1: to like us being in that vicinity, you doing the
Speaker 1: showing near that hotel whatever. So that was my weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a good weekend outside of my little emotional
Speaker 1: roller coaster on Saturday, just kind of I don't know
Speaker 1: I accomplish it. I had a weird Facebook marketplace exchange
Speaker 1: why Because I've been trying to get a standing in
Speaker 1: adjustable desks. Yeah, and I've so many people recommended this
Speaker 1: one from Costco, but it's like three hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: bucks and it's like kind of expensive. So I finally
Speaker 1: see one on Facebook marketplace and I'm like, hey, can
Speaker 1: I come look at this whatever? Because it was the
Speaker 1: shittiest quality of video and one picture that like didn't
Speaker 1: show barely any of it, and right off the bat,
Speaker 1: I should have known it was going to be a
Speaker 1: mess because she didn't know the measurements, didn't know the brand,
Speaker 1: like couldn't give me any information. And then finally I'm like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 1: She lives literally a minute away from me in Saint
Speaker 1: Louis Park. I'm just gonna go look at it. It's,
Speaker 1: if anything, it wastes five minutes of my day. But
Speaker 1: then I'm sitting there and I'm like, hey, can you
Speaker 1: send me your address so I can come? And then
Speaker 1: she doesn't respond and she goes, are you on your way?
Speaker 1: Is one message? The next messages and do you do
Speaker 1: you have help? And do you have a truck? And
Speaker 1: I go, no, I'm not on my way. You haven't
Speaker 1: sent me the address, yet I need your address first,
Speaker 1: and then she responds, that's weird, seriously, and I go
Speaker 1: what I would go, haha, okay, I mean I can't
Speaker 1: come buy this from you if you don't send me
Speaker 1: your address. She goes, I asked you if you had
Speaker 1: help in a truck. I go, you also asked me
Speaker 1: if I was on the way. So it was like
Speaker 1: this weird fucking back and forth for a while, and
Speaker 1: then I realized she was like kind of an older woman,
Speaker 1: and so she just like face in a place. But
Speaker 1: then she like gave me the wrong address. We're circling
Speaker 1: gush we because she like tight her she said, she
Speaker 1: fat fingered it. Whatever. Yeah, finally we get there. Honestly
Speaker 1: looks a little murdery kind of vibe. She's not there.
Speaker 1: Some guy is there. So I'm like, okay, so now
Speaker 1: this person who went by faith on Facebook is a man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm confused because it wasn't a profile picture of a woman.
Speaker 1: It was like a Meeta or something. So then it's
Speaker 1: like this driveway, and Andrew did come, and so I
Speaker 1: go down to the driveway and get us turned around
Speaker 1: to be able to like jet out of there, Like
Speaker 1: what is happening. Yeah, and then I did end up
Speaker 1: buying it. I tried to tell I did try to
Speaker 1: talk her down to one fifty because she had it
Speaker 1: at two hundred and I should have been able to
Speaker 1: get it down to one fifty because the house was
Speaker 1: like dark and like, yeah, really dirty honestly, and so
Speaker 1: I couldn't really fully see like in good lights. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and when I got it back, like the there's a
Speaker 1: glass toppy and there's definitely some scratches on the top.
Speaker 1: But I got her down to one seventy from two
Speaker 1: hundred and brand new from Pasco. It's like three seventies.
Speaker 1: So I'm like cool, I saved like fifty five percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah on this not bad. I'm hyped about that. That
Speaker 1: was like my big day on Sunday. I think that
Speaker 1: is very exciting.
Speaker 2: I love to I prefer to like sell stuff on
Speaker 2: Marketplace that thrill, But when I get a good deal,
Speaker 2: I'm like that too. I was going to say another thing,
Speaker 2: I feel like you were saying you were like wheeling
Speaker 2: and dealing on Marketplace too. And I told Jake, I'm like,
Speaker 2: we have got like you know, you go through those
Speaker 2: phases and my mom goes, well at least your house
Speaker 2: is big. When I have too much clutter, you can
Speaker 2: see it. She's like, at least you can't see yours.
Speaker 2: I was like, it doesn't make it any better. Then
Speaker 2: we have too much. I know we have too much
Speaker 2: stuff because like every little nook and cranny's filling up.
Speaker 2: We got to just get Jake go's you know, he'll
Speaker 2: make jokes. She would just get rid of everything and
Speaker 2: start from zero. Well, really know what we really need.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, that's the way to go.
Speaker 2: I also discovered yet another horrible quality about myself on
Speaker 2: this trip, because like, you know how people will say
Speaker 2: things about like, oh, your kid is like acting like you,
Speaker 2: and it's not a positive thing. And they were saying
Speaker 2: like because I was saying all of was whining about
Speaker 2: something and they're like, oh, I A don't really get
Speaker 2: is that from you? And I was like, every four
Speaker 2: and a half year old wines. They're like, oh no, no,
Speaker 2: she has your inflection when she whinds. And I was
Speaker 2: like okay, well and then like but that bothered me
Speaker 2: deep within a little bit because I'm like, I, of
Speaker 2: course don't want all of to get my negative qualities.
Speaker 1: I only wanted to get my positive ones, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to.
Speaker 2: Get all of Jake's stuff because Jake is like just
Speaker 2: such a good person, but I am so bad about
Speaker 2: not I think I'm getting better about hiding it a
Speaker 2: little bit, but I'm probably not gonna think I don't
Speaker 2: like doing what other people want to do. I just
Speaker 2: want to do what I want to do. And it's
Speaker 2: such a I think, negative quality and so selfish to
Speaker 2: be like that. And I know I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: probably like that because I was, to a degree.
Speaker 1: And only child.
Speaker 2: I'm not an only child, but my sister's nine years
Speaker 2: older than me, So for the majority, I just got
Speaker 2: my way and what I wanted to do, and I
Speaker 2: think that that probably is what it comes from. Also
Speaker 2: possibly just like a personality trait you just have. But
Speaker 2: like I wanted to go to like a store too,
Speaker 2: And so the girls went to a store while the
Speaker 2: guys took the kids to the beach, and I was
Speaker 2: just getting so frustrated I could fill it myself. I
Speaker 2: was probably hungry too, but I guess feel myself getting
Speaker 2: so frustrated because they wanted to.
Speaker 1: Look at stores too. That is such a shitty attitude.
Speaker 2: They should also be able to get to look at
Speaker 2: the two stores they wanted to look at, and I
Speaker 2: was the reason I was getting frustrated is because if
Speaker 2: I saw something I liked at the store, I just
Speaker 2: bought it left they would be like, I'm gonna think
Speaker 2: about it and we'll come back to the same store
Speaker 2: if I want to buy it. So we went back
Speaker 2: to two stores for them to do that, and I
Speaker 2: was getting it and I'm like, that is they weren't.
Speaker 2: They were walkable, we weren't driving forty minutes. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: it ended up taking like two hours, and in my
Speaker 2: head it was gonna be a thirty minute adventure. But
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is a personal issue. None of them
Speaker 2: were frustrated when I was like looking at the stores
Speaker 2: I wanted to look at. Yeah, and I don't. I
Speaker 2: hate that quality in myself, Like and I know I'm
Speaker 2: like that with things with Jake as well.
Speaker 1: It'll he would say.
Speaker 2: Yes to anything I want to do, but if it's
Speaker 2: something he wants to do, I might say yes, but
Speaker 2: I also might be like I really don't and he'll
Speaker 2: just be like okay, and I'm like, ugh, I'm just
Speaker 2: I get my way too often with things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of relationships are kind of like that. If yeah, you're
Speaker 1: truthfully like a heterosexual relationship. I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of times women their partners will allow them to do
Speaker 1: whatever they want to do, but women will put their
Speaker 1: foot down right a little bit more or because I
Speaker 1: think that's kind of how it is more so with
Speaker 1: Andrew and I. I mean, on a vacation, Andrew does
Speaker 1: every single thing that I want to do, and then
Speaker 1: like if he suggests things, it's not that I don't
Speaker 1: want to do what he wants to do, but he
Speaker 1: didn't do the research that I did right, so that
Speaker 1: so I don't know that we're guaranteed to have a
Speaker 1: good time doing something he might suggest. And one time
Speaker 1: we did like these sand dune things on the Oregon
Speaker 1: coast and it was one of my favorite things from
Speaker 1: this West coast road trip we did. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was a last minute addition that he found and we
Speaker 1: did and it was great. But I'm totally like that
Speaker 1: mostly honestly only on vacations. And I like that with Andrew,
Speaker 1: but I'm very much like that where it's like I
Speaker 1: want to do this. The last trip we went on,
Speaker 1: I wanted to do this one hike, he wanted to
Speaker 1: do another one, and we did the hike I wanted
Speaker 1: to do, and then he loved it because I was like,
Speaker 1: I think this one's better the research.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, whatever, it's okay, Yeah, well it's not
Speaker 2: it isn't it is, and it's I just think that, like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny because so how my friend group
Speaker 2: works is Hiding and I are both alpha, and Abby
Speaker 2: is like very like she's Abby's very specific because she's
Speaker 2: she's not diagnosed OCD, but I we call her that,
Speaker 2: and I know you probably shouldn't politically correct like do
Speaker 2: that anymore, but I think that she would agree. She it,
Speaker 2: I mean everything. She's very specific on things, and I
Speaker 2: don't mean just like she has her taste, like every
Speaker 2: time this. She's been like this since we were in college.
Speaker 2: So I would walk in, kick off my shoes and
Speaker 2: do something, and when I would come back, they'd be
Speaker 2: laid out perfectly. In this house we rented, every single
Speaker 2: time I would go past the mudroom, she had lined
Speaker 2: up every set of shoes perfectly, and it actually is
Speaker 2: lovely because it's really like having a built in maid.
Speaker 2: But when I was in college, I hated it. I'd
Speaker 2: be like, because she'd put my shoes away in the closet,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Abby, I'm trying to go do something now
Speaker 2: to go upstairs and get my shoes out of the closet.
Speaker 2: And I made a rule she had to leave my
Speaker 2: shoes out for twenty four hours before she put them away.
Speaker 2: But I but it, so how did I usually end
Speaker 2: up getting into one little little tiff?
Speaker 1: We didn't this time?
Speaker 2: Nice, But she did make a comment at the beach
Speaker 2: where she was like, Oh, are you in a better
Speaker 2: mood now that you've had something to eat?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I wasn't in a bad mood.
Speaker 1: You can do that though with like your friends for
Speaker 1: a while. You know that you're saying over it. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: I like, I think that I'm pretty go with the
Speaker 1: flow when I'm in a bigger group setting on like
Speaker 1: a vacation or something. Yeah, But I also choose my
Speaker 1: vacations and how I travel now very particularly because I've
Speaker 1: had so many bad situations of traveling with people who
Speaker 1: are not fun for me. So I've just like tried
Speaker 1: to avoid ever being in a situation where we're going
Speaker 1: to be doing things maybe that I don't want to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Like I just I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean I try to think like this Savannah bachelorette party.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a bachelrette party. We had an itinerary
Speaker 1: for most of the trips. So but I got my
Speaker 1: way and I got us to go to this one
Speaker 1: coffee shop and little shop area, and then the group
Speaker 1: that came with me was like so hyped because it
Speaker 1: was super cool. Yeah, and I got my way with
Speaker 1: that while the other girls went straight to this beach
Speaker 1: we were all going to meet at, and so it
Speaker 1: was like easier because we were split up, and like
Speaker 1: the girls that I was mostly hanging out with, we
Speaker 1: were all interested in doing the same things, you know.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think it's just I think a.
Speaker 2: Lot of people are like that. Yeah, and you do
Speaker 2: find out if you can travel with people or not.
Speaker 2: We did the, like I said, the full families this time,
Speaker 2: and it was so great because her kids are like
Speaker 2: lovely and they all have just played with them constantly.
Speaker 2: I mean I barely was even checking it on her
Speaker 2: nice I was like, where's all of Is she good?
Speaker 2: I hear a scream somewhere. Yeah, she's good. She mostly
Speaker 2: this is how kids are. If you ever have kids, Ginny,
Speaker 2: you may not, you will learn the things you spend
Speaker 2: the money on they don't care about. They care about
Speaker 2: the weird shit olives highlight for the entire vacation. Bunk
Speaker 2: beds and in the airbnb. She could care less probably
Speaker 2: about anything else we did. But the bunk beds were
Speaker 2: so oh cool. She wants bunk beds at home. This morning,
Speaker 2: I miss the bunk beds. I'm driving her to school.
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, move on, And Jake said, should
Speaker 2: we get her bunk beds?
Speaker 1: Like no, I just bought her a bed, and he's like,
Speaker 1: there's only a small window where they want bunk beds.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I always wanted one when I was
Speaker 1: a kid. But I also shared a room with my
Speaker 1: old Rachel, so we literally shared a bed till we
Speaker 1: were like almost teenagers, and I was always like, I
Speaker 1: need a bunk.
Speaker 2: Bed because we were sharing a room, but we never
Speaker 2: got one. I was top bunk my sophomore year of
Speaker 2: college with Abby. I don't know why I chose the
Speaker 2: top bunk. I don't even know if I was cool maybe,
Speaker 2: but that's embarrassing. As a like twenty year old woman,
Speaker 2: I thought that was cool. Yeah, I look back at them.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what a horrible decision.
Speaker 1: But whatever? Can I tell you that? Andrew and I
Speaker 1: are the where the couple on Instagram where it's like
Speaker 1: a meme and it's like you travel somewhere and within
Speaker 1: three minutes you're like, we should move here?
Speaker 2: Oh, Jake, can I at the same table we look
Speaker 2: at realistic get on Zillow immediately and start looking at
Speaker 2: how much houses.
Speaker 1: Are and stuff. So Ever since we went to Seattle
Speaker 1: and Lovenworth like a month ago, Andrew has been like
Speaker 1: heavily talking about like he loved Seattle so much, and
Speaker 1: we've always loved Colorado for snowboarding and stuff, but like
Speaker 1: Denver itself, like it's a fun city and I like
Speaker 1: to visit. I don't know that I foresee myself ever
Speaker 1: wanting to live in that city anymore. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: are a snowboarder skier, you know how much of a
Speaker 1: nightmare it is to get out into the mountains when
Speaker 1: there's snowstorms and stuff because there's only one highway that
Speaker 1: goes out there. So realistically, like snowboarding wise, it's not
Speaker 1: like the best location. So Seattle has been like a
Speaker 1: top subject with Andrew lately, to the point that he
Speaker 1: has been saying a lot about moving and like really
Speaker 1: like considering different things, and like there's some stuff that's
Speaker 1: changing in the real estate industry that I don't fully
Speaker 1: know how to explain it, so I don't want to
Speaker 1: like get into it, but it has the potential to
Speaker 1: really change how Andrew makes money. And so he kind
Speaker 1: of is like starting to weigh up options in case
Speaker 1: he maybe has to pivot his career right, And I
Speaker 1: have told him because I love my life here, but
Speaker 1: I've now lived in the Midwest my entire life, and yes,
Speaker 1: the Twin Cities is very different than the town I
Speaker 1: grew up in Wisconsin, but I just like feel like
Speaker 1: I need to be around mountains.
Speaker 2: You have said that, like since the beginning of knowing you,
Speaker 2: and you've like been like, and you've also been very
Speaker 2: much like, I want to do this while I'm still
Speaker 2: younger and can like do all the hikes and things
Speaker 2: I want to do.
Speaker 1: So, like we were on a walk on Sunday and
Speaker 1: we were just like talking about all the opportunities of
Speaker 1: things we would get into if we ever lived in
Speaker 1: like the Pacific Northwest or something. And I mean, of
Speaker 1: course hiking would be like a big one, but I've
Speaker 1: always thought it was like I've been starting to get
Speaker 1: into watching like these people on Instagram that do rock
Speaker 1: climbing and stuff, and I think that might be a
Speaker 1: little too much considering I just went off a building
Speaker 1: and the other day and I was terrified.
Speaker 2: Started just going to the Bouldering Project in Minneapolis and
Speaker 2: see if you like it. Jake and yell and go
Speaker 2: every week. They love it and it took all of
Speaker 2: last week.
Speaker 1: Andrew really wants to get into, like it's a certain
Speaker 1: kind of kayaking that's just not your normal kayaking. It's
Speaker 1: like whitewater kayaking. It's probably all it's called.
Speaker 2: But is it the one where you're like in a
Speaker 2: solo one and you can like kind of flip in
Speaker 2: and that it's so terrifying to me.
Speaker 1: So like he kind of wants to get into stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And it's like and he loves mountain biking
Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, it's like we love Minnesota. Andrew's never
Speaker 1: left the Twin Cities. And I did tell him I
Speaker 1: go one thing that I was able to experience it.
Speaker 1: I don't think you haven't been able to. Is when
Speaker 1: I left Wisconsin to go to college here in the
Speaker 1: Twin Cities, it was just like this whole new life
Speaker 1: I was starting, and obviously also very different because I'm
Speaker 1: going from high school to living on my own and
Speaker 1: going to college. But I was like, I will never
Speaker 1: forget those days of exploring the city by myself for
Speaker 1: the first time and just learning new things. And it's like,
Speaker 1: there's so much for the Twin Cities to offer, but
Speaker 1: I feel like I've done it all. Yeah, like not truthfully,
Speaker 1: not too many things get me super excited to do
Speaker 1: in the Twin Cities anymore. And it's like a living
Speaker 1: in Granted, I don't think we could even honestly afford
Speaker 1: living in Seattle, like it's a very expensive city to.
Speaker 2: Live it is, but I mean, my I'm actually surprised
Speaker 2: you would want Seattle instead of going more a little
Speaker 2: bit closer to the coast.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've always said that Organs might say I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were more organ coast. I definitely am. But I
Speaker 1: do see I like the city of Seattle so much
Speaker 1: that I do I feel like I just want to
Speaker 1: be able to still be in a big city. I
Speaker 1: have access to mountains and water and stuff, So you
Speaker 1: don't really unless like, Portland's probably the closest where you
Speaker 1: can get kind of both the water and the mountains
Speaker 1: and stuff for big cities in Oregon. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've never I've only gone through Portland.
Speaker 2: I don't know a lot about port It's the same
Speaker 2: in Seattle as it is any big city, though, you
Speaker 2: just want it, you just to afford to live. You
Speaker 2: just go outside to on the suburb cities. This is
Speaker 2: with my friend Ellen, who did radio there did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so anyways, he also, like Andrew, also says things
Speaker 1: like this a lot, and like never actually wants to
Speaker 1: write do anything in the There's no plan just so
Speaker 1: everyone's not right if you're listening right now. I don't
Speaker 1: have any intention of leaving anytime soon. But like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a more consistent conversation and a more of
Speaker 1: like if we moved to Seattle, not a like, well
Speaker 1: maybe someday we'll move, you know, it's more of a like.
Speaker 1: It seems a little bit more right. Interest. He's more
Speaker 1: interested than I've ever heard him in the past. Right,
Speaker 1: So anyways, But you know, we're once again. It's I mean,
Speaker 1: we would change our entire lives if we were to move.
Speaker 2: I obviously selfishly don't want you to, but if you
Speaker 2: did live there, that would be a good spot. Like
Speaker 2: I would if my friend's been way at least need
Speaker 2: them to go to a spot I would want to visit,
Speaker 2: So that would be a spot I would actually visit.
Speaker 1: I know. That's how I feel like my younger sister.
Speaker 1: I don't want to reveal too much because she hasn't
Speaker 1: told many people, and I don't know who listens to
Speaker 1: this podcast, but she's talking about moving somewhere in like
Speaker 1: a year, and I like am so hyped because I
Speaker 1: was like, good, go because I want to go visit, Yeah,
Speaker 1: somewhere that's like fun to visit, versus like, sorry, I
Speaker 1: moved out of my home for a reason, We're going
Speaker 1: to go back there for a reason. I like going
Speaker 1: to see my family in fond a lot all the time.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, all right, we're going to go
Speaker 1: to the Gillies the drive in again to get ice cream,
Speaker 1: and it's great ice cream, but like, yeah, there's only
Speaker 1: so much you can do there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. When my sister moved to Orlando. I was pretty
Speaker 2: like excited about that. Florida is not my favorite spot
Speaker 2: and it's obviously not even on a beach area, but
Speaker 2: they do are around a lot of cool things, not
Speaker 2: just Disney either, but like we're going to go there
Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving, and she was like, we should go to
Speaker 2: Hemingway's house, which it's a drive, but like I was like,
Speaker 2: that will be so cool to go see Hemmingway's cats,
Speaker 2: the six toed cats and things, and they are right
Speaker 2: by that spot. You've probably seen the tiktoks or videos
Speaker 2: where everyone's paddleboarding and the huge manatees are under the
Speaker 2: clear water. That's right by where she lives. So I
Speaker 2: think we're going to try that, assuming they're in season.
Speaker 2: I have to look at the dates. I actually don't know,
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's fun to have like a destination. And
Speaker 2: also for us in the winter, having a spot to
Speaker 2: go on Florida and stay for free and they have
Speaker 2: a pool is just really nice too. So if you're
Speaker 2: planning on moving away from your family and friends, you
Speaker 2: need to be considerate of it being a spot that
Speaker 2: they want to visit.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, and that you have one spare bedroom so
Speaker 1: they can sleep for free, or that we can't. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: I was. I don't think I said this on the
Speaker 1: podcast when I talked about that trip out to Seattle,
Speaker 1: but we stayed at my friend's house for one night
Speaker 1: and they live in West Seattle, and I was like
Speaker 1: kind of like stressed about it because you're at a
Speaker 1: point in life where like you don't really want to
Speaker 1: crash on your friend's couches. And even though they're both
Speaker 1: very successful, real estate is still so expensive out there
Speaker 1: that their house that they paid way more than we
Speaker 1: paid for our house, is about half the size of
Speaker 1: our house, and so they've got one guest bedroom. In
Speaker 1: the last time I went to visit, they only had
Speaker 1: a full bed, and Andrew and I have a king
Speaker 1: bed in our bedroom, so I was like, oh, and
Speaker 1: it was hot and they didn't they don't have central air,
Speaker 1: so I was like, this is going to be the
Speaker 1: longest night ever. But luckily there was enough of a
Speaker 1: breeze that it kept to the pool and they did
Speaker 1: upgrade to a queen bed the last time I was there,
Speaker 1: so we were able to like survive it. But I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I like to go visit friends, but
Speaker 1: like in the end, I almost want to spend more
Speaker 1: money to just have a comfortable night of sleep versus
Speaker 1: absolutely money, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Do you have anything else that you want to talk about?
Speaker 2: I think we're like at our time, that's about it.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, remember you can always email us Fallon at katiwb
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Speaker 2: appreciate you thanks for listening.