Speaker 1: Welcome all you metaphysical tooth seekers. Today's episode is a
Speaker 1: special one as we're joined by an attorney with a twist.
Speaker 1: He also happens to be a gifted psychic mediums. Yep,
Speaker 1: you heard that right. We'll meet Jason, a lawyer by
Speaker 1: day and a psychic medium by well, also day in
Speaker 1: probably night two, but anyway. From from law books to
Speaker 1: spirit guides, this episode promises to be one heck of
Speaker 1: a ride. Our guest is going to share his experiences
Speaker 1: from predicting life changing events to why he dedicated his
Speaker 1: podcast to social justice and spirituality. This mystical legal eagle
Speaker 1: has been providing intuitive guidance since two thousand and four
Speaker 1: and two thousand seventeen decided to go pro. But that's
Speaker 1: not all Today, Jason is also going to take us
Speaker 1: on a magical carpet rite of topics from his astounding
Speaker 1: psychic predictions, to his ventures into podcasting and his journey
Speaker 1: towards spiritual awakening. Buckle up, It's going to be an engaging,
Speaker 1: fun filled adventure, so stay tuned and prepare to have
Speaker 1: your mind expanded and your spirit lifted. My name is
Speaker 1: Will and I'm Karen, and unlike moulderin Scully.
Speaker 2: We both want to believe.
Speaker 1: So we've embarked in a journey of discovery.
Speaker 2: We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and
Speaker 2: metaphysical world.
Speaker 1: We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
Speaker 1: joined a coven of witches.
Speaker 2: And wait, you joined a coven?
Speaker 1: Yep, all the interest of finding something, anything that will
Speaker 1: prove that there's something beyond this physical.
Speaker 2: Three dimensional world we all live in.
Speaker 1: This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Hey, they're welcome to the
Speaker 1: Skeptic Metaphysicians. I'm Will and I'm Karen, and today we
Speaker 1: have a special treat to see. Our guest today is
Speaker 1: named Jason.
Speaker 2: That sounds special.
Speaker 3: Yees.
Speaker 1: To begin with, I know now, Jason is an attorney. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: he's an attorney. He's licensed to practice law in five
Speaker 1: different states.
Speaker 2: Does he know? But never mind, we'll.
Speaker 1: Get to that. He earned his bachelors from the University
Speaker 1: of Tampa, his juris doctorate from Nova Southeastern University, and
Speaker 1: his master's in International and Comparative law from Georgetown University.
Speaker 1: Not someone you typically think would be on our show. Right,
Speaker 1: You've listened to the show before, right the twist. The
Speaker 1: twist is that it just so happens that Jason is
Speaker 1: also a psychic medium and he's been providing accurate, intuitive
Speaker 1: advice and guidance since two thousand and four, so he
Speaker 1: can help us. I pray to God on so many
Speaker 1: levels now. In twenty seventeen, he decided to offer intuitive
Speaker 1: guidance professionally so he could further provide clients with a
Speaker 1: chance to gain insight on matters within their life which
Speaker 1: require further attention, just like an attorney.
Speaker 2: But if you want to forget some of those matters,
Speaker 2: help with that.
Speaker 1: By working with others to confront existing obstacles and challenges,
Speaker 1: Jason aspires to provide clarity and reassurance to those seeking advice.
Speaker 1: I am thrilled to welcome to the show the social
Speaker 1: psychic attorney, psychic medium and podcaster Jason Zuke. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if Zuke is the way to pronounce your name,
Speaker 1: but I hope you got it it is.
Speaker 3: First off, it's such a pleasure, and you can call
Speaker 3: it Zuke. I go buy zuck Zuck.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're thrilled to have you. We talked on the
Speaker 1: show before many times about the fact that a lot
Speaker 1: of people who are in this space. A few years ago,
Speaker 1: it was just the people with the colored hair and
Speaker 1: the gypsy robes and all that kind of stuff that
Speaker 1: had the crystal balls, right, But now it's everyday people
Speaker 1: are awakening more and more people like you. An attorney,
Speaker 1: a doctor's professional folks, so you wouldn't necessarily think would
Speaker 1: be in this space. So your journey as both an
Speaker 1: attorney and a psychic medium, it's kind of interesting. So
Speaker 1: how did these two seemingly different roles compliment each other
Speaker 1: in your life's work.
Speaker 3: They were totally unplanned. And what I mean by that
Speaker 3: is as a normal person, and I still feel normal,
Speaker 3: even be an intuitive But before I knew I had
Speaker 3: intuitive abilities, I went to school to become a lawyer.
Speaker 3: Without realizing it at first. I went to college and
Speaker 3: went to law school, and I'd been doing that for
Speaker 3: twenty three years. So my grandfather passed away in two
Speaker 3: thousand and four. I used to get premonitions as a kid.
Speaker 3: My mom and my grandmother both have psychic intuitive abilities.
Speaker 3: My brothers even told me in the past that he's
Speaker 3: had some brushes with intuition and stuff so for me,
Speaker 3: I knew during college and law school that when my
Speaker 3: grandfather passes away that I'd be by myself with no
Speaker 3: one to console me. And go back a second. I
Speaker 3: moved to Florida from New Jersey because my grandparents helped
Speaker 3: raise me my mom's parents and so they raised me.
Speaker 3: And so when my grandfather died in two thousand and four,
Speaker 3: seven years later, my premonition came true. He had a
Speaker 3: stroke a couple of days before I went to Wisconsin
Speaker 3: to cover of deposition. My family wanted me to continue working.
Speaker 3: I did get a chance a day of his stroke,
Speaker 3: but he was just communicating with his hands at that point,
Speaker 3: and he passed on when I was in Wisconsin. I
Speaker 3: got stuck there overnight. So the actual premonition I had
Speaker 3: about being alone by myself with no one to console
Speaker 3: me king true. But what flipped that around a little
Speaker 3: was my grandfather came to me in hotel room orbs
Speaker 3: of Light looks like an unsolved mystery episode. I stepped
Speaker 3: from being me normal to me in this new reality.
Speaker 3: With my grandfather crossing over his orbs of light and
Speaker 3: all that, a feeling of unconditional love washed over me
Speaker 3: in the room I went from having my greatest fear
Speaker 3: to having one of the most profound experiences of my
Speaker 3: life that transformed my life and made me realize I
Speaker 3: was like.
Speaker 1: And so this was like a light switch. Right from
Speaker 1: one minute you were an attorney, the next minute you.
Speaker 3: Are in a different reality. It's like the matrix. I
Speaker 3: came out of the ploid looking around, going what do
Speaker 3: I do now?
Speaker 2: So how much time passed between seeing the orbs and
Speaker 2: the feeling of love, Like was there a little bit
Speaker 2: of terror in between?
Speaker 3: Or were you just like wait, zecking split? And I
Speaker 3: bring up on sold mysteries because I'm like forty eight
Speaker 3: right now. People younger and your audience may not know
Speaker 3: what that is. But it was just my whole reality
Speaker 3: got shifted. And I also had my first mediumship experience
Speaker 3: that night after my grandfather, because my grandfather said to me, son,
Speaker 3: I love you, don't don't grieve me, don't cry for me.
Speaker 3: Go get some food for yourself. I'm always gonna be
Speaker 3: with you. I'll be in your dreams. I'll communicate with you.
Speaker 3: And I was like, WHOA, okay, Grandpa, I love you.
Speaker 3: And then I went and got food and like had
Speaker 3: no like no emotion about it, and one of my
Speaker 3: close friend from high school called me, Tracy, and she
Speaker 3: asked me about my grandfather. I said, oh, he died,
Speaker 3: and I could sense for the first time, not for
Speaker 3: my five senses, I could sense for my intuitive abilities.
Speaker 3: As she was doubting what I was telling her orbs
Speaker 3: of light my grandfather, you know. So I said to her, Hey, Tracy,
Speaker 3: you know what. You don't believe what I'm telling you
Speaker 3: right now? I get it. I know you're skeptical. I
Speaker 3: am too. If it didn't happen to me, I be
Speaker 3: a skeptic, I was a skepticist. And I said, I said,
Speaker 3: what if your grandmother could come through to you right now?
Speaker 3: She goes, my grand's been dead six months. I said,
Speaker 3: what if she came through? And then her grandmother relaid
Speaker 3: a specific message that only the two of them knew.
Speaker 3: So she drops the phone starts crying in the bathroom.
Speaker 3: Her future husband grabs the phone at the time says,
Speaker 3: what did you just say to my wife? Why she's
Speaker 3: crying in the bathroom? And I was, I guess, my
Speaker 3: best friend, I know, since I'm like fourteen thirteen, you know,
Speaker 3: and so are you? Okay? She grabs me. She goes,
Speaker 3: how did you know that? Only my grandmother knew that?
Speaker 3: And then I got scared went back to Hella left
Speaker 3: the lights on for ten years, like everyone for ten years,
Speaker 3: I always had the lights on. So that's in a nutshell.
Speaker 3: How my you know, reality shifted?
Speaker 2: So how did the grandmother's message come to you? Is
Speaker 2: it just a feeling that you knew or did you
Speaker 2: some people hear like the actual voices? What was your experience?
Speaker 3: You know? Interestingly enough, I sensed it. You know when
Speaker 3: you get a daja vu moment you think about someone
Speaker 3: and they call you and you're like, oh wow, that's
Speaker 3: how the feeling feels. So I would have like these tingles,
Speaker 3: like you sense it. You just your spidy sense comes off,
Speaker 3: as I call it. And her grandmother was telling me
Speaker 3: as I was, I don't know if I channel it
Speaker 3: conn well strongly as a medium. She's telling me, let
Speaker 3: Tracy know, and she said the specific message, learned it
Speaker 3: out without realizing it, and they come through like charades.
Speaker 3: So I'll get sounds, I'll get images. My clairvoyance has
Speaker 3: grown a lot in the last few years, so I'll
Speaker 3: get a lot of images, premonitions. If you're still to
Speaker 3: show charmed. It's kind of like that. Sure gets the
Speaker 3: premonition images. Those are pretty spot on because I get
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and so make sure of various different
Speaker 3: things such as that.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, as an attorney, how many times have you
Speaker 1: been in court and you get a vision that the
Speaker 1: purpose partner who died in the case comes out and says,
Speaker 1: here it is where the bodies are buried, here's where
Speaker 1: the money is.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: How many times does that happen you've solved the case.
Speaker 3: I have a formal answer for this, since I am
Speaker 3: an attorney and a lawyer and a psychic and all
Speaker 3: this fun thing. I'm gonna tell you. Since the rules
Speaker 3: of ethical conduct, the rules of profetical conduct do not
Speaker 3: have any provisions that governor lawyers who have psychic abilities,
Speaker 3: I've kept the two so separate that when i'm court,
Speaker 3: I just use my lawyer skills because I don't ever
Speaker 3: want these two to conflate each other.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yep, spoken like a true attorney.
Speaker 2: Perfect and good for you using the lingo.
Speaker 1: I am the purpose that's right, the purp and the
Speaker 1: body is buried in the right. I got it, you know,
Speaker 1: I got it. You do keep the two worlds separate? Then, yes,
Speaker 1: how can you you just kind of switch it off
Speaker 1: when you're in court?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, when I'm in lawyer mode, and I do
Speaker 3: you know, I started out with this twenty years ago, right,
Speaker 3: but I really didn't start doing it like full time,
Speaker 3: like I say part time actually as like a night thing.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like moonlighting, but not moonlighting.
Speaker 1: It's version of night court.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and except, so what I do is even when
Speaker 3: I had my own physical office because I don't have
Speaker 3: a physical officing more, but I had when I had one.
Speaker 3: I do readings in the evenings after six, so I
Speaker 3: have clients line up for readings without telling anyone else
Speaker 3: in the build, and that's what's going on. And then
Speaker 3: I had my law clients during the day and they'd
Speaker 3: breathe when I do a lot of like insurance stuff,
Speaker 3: so I wouldn't have to be around people as much.
Speaker 3: But it was mostly no. But even now, like I
Speaker 3: have interesting days where I'll have two podcast interviews, two
Speaker 3: like depositions as a lawyer, and then at night I'll
Speaker 3: do two interviews and it's like gifting the gears between
Speaker 3: the three. But a lot of people have multiple roles
Speaker 3: they fill true what would you.
Speaker 2: Do or how do you handle it if you were
Speaker 2: like in a case and the victim was dead but
Speaker 2: they came to and they're like, he's lying, he actually
Speaker 2: did it, Like he's separated to do what if she
Speaker 2: just came to him?
Speaker 1: Well, you know what I mean, don't come.
Speaker 3: It sounds like it'd make a great script to a
Speaker 3: show on Netflix at something you watch. Right in real life,
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I don't mix the twos, and
Speaker 3: I do property insurance. So I haven't had anyone who
Speaker 3: owns the house tell me they you know, in that
Speaker 3: in that setting. I haven't had those kind of facts
Speaker 3: present themselves.
Speaker 2: So no, A the house falling on doors, which or whatever.
Speaker 1: Shoot, all right, your story is really interesting, not just
Speaker 1: because of the grandfather thing. But we do have something
Speaker 1: in common, you and I, and that is that we're
Speaker 1: both survivors of cancer. And the interesting thing about this
Speaker 1: is that you actually predicted, you got a premonition about
Speaker 1: your diagnosis before, like six months before. Right, However, tell
Speaker 1: us that story.
Speaker 3: So basically where my old office building was, I'm in Tampa, Florida.
Speaker 3: So there's a place called Davis island and there's an
Speaker 3: office space, like my old office had commercial space under it.
Speaker 3: And this is back in twenty eighteen. March of twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: I had just started my podcast around the same time,
Speaker 3: I went for a walk outside just to get some air,
Speaker 3: you know, March in Tampa's like really nice spring, warm
Speaker 3: weather but not too hot yet. And I'm walking and
Speaker 3: I walk past the window that's underneath my office space
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at my shirt and I'm looking at
Speaker 3: my pants, and I'm like, just you know, it becomes
Speaker 3: like a mirror that time of morning, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm looking at my reflection. I get wouldn't
Speaker 3: it be weird if you had cancer and didn't know it?
Speaker 3: And I was like, cancel that out. And then I
Speaker 3: look again, and it did it a second time, and
Speaker 3: then a third time, and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I have cancer because this is my
Speaker 3: body I'm looking yet, and this is my intuitive voice
Speaker 3: speaking to me. So I went and spoke to a
Speaker 3: bunch of the people I worked with and friends, and
Speaker 3: I told my family, I said I might have cancer.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to find out, but I feel
Speaker 3: as if I do and they were all like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: that's just a crazy thought. And so fast forward. I
Speaker 3: had suffered from diverticulitis for fifteen years, so my doctor
Speaker 3: wanted me to get a cat scan to get it
Speaker 3: checked and see about getting diverticulitis surgery. So I was
Speaker 3: kind of doing that in anticipation of that. I went
Speaker 3: and got a cat scan and the doctor calls me
Speaker 3: and says, we need you to go to see eurologist
Speaker 3: right away. And I'm like why, Well, the imprint from
Speaker 3: the cat scan shows you have stage one kidney cancer.
Speaker 3: I'm like what, just like my premonition, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And my doctor's like your premonition. I'm like yeah, doc,
Speaker 3: and I explained it to him. He's like, well, luckily
Speaker 3: this is the most aggressive cancer, you'll be able to
Speaker 3: remove it. So he was already kind of giving me
Speaker 3: a pep talk. But yeah, it was pretty crazy because
Speaker 3: then I won't do that transition for three months ago.
Speaker 3: As it is, when you go through cancer, depend on
Speaker 3: what you got. You have to wait for the m
Speaker 3: and then the surgery or the procedure or chemo, whatever
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: And so what I'm surprised by that you actually told
Speaker 1: you doctor. Hey, doc, I had a premonition. I had
Speaker 1: so talking about crossing the lines here ran Well, it
Speaker 1: was different for you, it was a little different. We
Speaker 1: were surprised we had no premonitions.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're not here about We're here about Zuck.
Speaker 3: We're not here about it though, in reference, because I
Speaker 3: know you being a cancer survivor something. I had a
Speaker 3: cancer scare two years ago and I don't really talk
Speaker 3: about it much, but my doctor, I had a kidney
Speaker 3: stone went into the ar and they thought they found
Speaker 3: another growth of my right kidne Because I didn't get
Speaker 3: the kidney removed, I got a cryoblast on. And let
Speaker 3: me tell you something. You have a type of thing
Speaker 3: going on. Your psychology, your spirituality, your personal everything, mental health,
Speaker 3: it all gets whacked out right. And I respect you
Speaker 3: so much for sharing this on your show and bringing
Speaker 3: it up during the interview, because I have utmost respect
Speaker 3: for you and any cancer survivor, because only a cancer
Speaker 3: survivor knows what a cancer survivor experiences when they go
Speaker 3: through a digo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing quite like a doctor saying yes, it
Speaker 1: is true you have cancer, and then going to a
Speaker 1: second doctor and having that confirmed. That's the worst, right,
Speaker 1: because you always had that hope that you know now
Speaker 1: that the doctor, second doctor go no, they got it wrong.
Speaker 3: Nope.
Speaker 1: When the second doctor says yep, they're right, your world
Speaker 1: the floor drops out from under you. Anyway. So I
Speaker 1: just found that interesting that you were able to diagnose
Speaker 1: your own you intuitively knew that you had it, which
Speaker 1: it was complete opposite for us. But beyond that, I'm
Speaker 1: bringing out all your medical histories UK. You were undergoing
Speaker 1: a colonoscopy and under anesthesia. You ended up having quite
Speaker 1: the experience. Can you share that with us?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did an episode about it. I don't do
Speaker 3: my own talking episodes where I don't interview someone else,
Speaker 3: like it's just not my format. But that experience was
Speaker 3: so profound. So I was diagnosed with the stage one
Speaker 3: kidney cancer in August almost two oh, well, twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: so do the mass six years, six years ago. And
Speaker 3: I went through this waiting Holt waiting period in order
Speaker 3: to get my MRI done. So then I had the
Speaker 3: surgery and then it was cancer free. And I was
Speaker 3: determined cancer free on September twenty sixth of that year.
Speaker 3: So then I had to go in for a colonoscopy
Speaker 3: for UH to prepare for my diverticu AE surgery in December.
Speaker 3: It was a great year, Oh Jesus. But I go
Speaker 3: in for the colonoscopy not expecting much and I get
Speaker 3: put under. But before I got put under, I started
Speaker 3: reading the nurse who was putting me under, like who
Speaker 3: was catering to me? And I thought she had someone
Speaker 3: die around her that was her ex husband, but he
Speaker 3: really was in her husband. They got divorced, but he
Speaker 3: still considers her his wife. And I was talking to
Speaker 3: her while she was like getting me prepared to go
Speaker 3: under and telling her, your son, don't fight with him,
Speaker 3: just let him graduate. Just let me graduated. Already. My
Speaker 3: son and I just argument this morning. He's graduating in May,
Speaker 3: and I had a big argument about and she anyway,
Speaker 3: that was a side story. So I go under and
Speaker 3: I'm in this garden again, like the first time my
Speaker 3: grandpa came orbs a light, it was like one way,
Speaker 3: but this time I'm in a garden and everything was
Speaker 3: alive and connected as one. And when I say that,
Speaker 3: I mean everything felt like it breathed, It would breathe.
Speaker 3: Everything was emotionally love unattached. Everything's one. We are one,
Speaker 3: and that's the interconnectedness I felt from that experience. It
Speaker 3: was like if we're living in like ten eighty right now,
Speaker 3: as like pixels. This was like five billion pixels all
Speaker 3: my senses. Ohh wow. It was profound. And my grandfather
Speaker 3: spoke to me. He said, son, I love you. When
Speaker 3: you get out of the out of here, talk to
Speaker 3: your mother when you call her, get out of here,
Speaker 3: call your mom. Tell her the specific words. My grand's
Speaker 3: very specific. Tell your mom that every night she prayed
Speaker 3: about you by yourself and never told you that. She
Speaker 3: didn't want you to pre cease predecease her. She's going
Speaker 3: to live a normal life. You're going to live a
Speaker 3: normal life to the best of your ability. She's going
Speaker 3: to die after you. You're not going to predecease her.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, Grandpa, I love you, and then
Speaker 3: I come too. Then I called my mom and my
Speaker 3: friend picked me up. My best friend, Megan picked me up,
Speaker 3: and we got we left the place to get something
Speaker 3: to eat or whatever, and I called my mom and said, Mom,
Speaker 3: I just had the most profound experience I think was Grandpa.
Speaker 3: And She's like, well, what did he say. And I
Speaker 3: relayed the message back to her and I said, he
Speaker 3: wants me to know to tell you that when you
Speaker 3: prayed every day for sit He goes, She goes, Oh
Speaker 3: my god, my prayer that you weren't going to die
Speaker 3: before me I would die. I was like, yeah. She
Speaker 3: started crying. And my mom's not the most emotional person.
Speaker 3: She was a school teacher in Patterson, New Jersey, inner
Speaker 3: city school and very strict. But you know, anyway, she
Speaker 3: were crying. I knew right then and there that this
Speaker 3: was significant and authentic and real. So I started crying.
Speaker 3: My mom was crying, I'm crying, and we just had
Speaker 3: this big Kumbaya moment. And you know, I have a
Speaker 3: lot of moments like that with my mom about my
Speaker 3: grandfather and my grandmother. You know, being on the other side,
Speaker 3: you feel these things all the time. You sense me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, it's very cool, though. It sounds like your family.
Speaker 1: A lot of people who go through these kinds of
Speaker 1: things and suddenly one day they suddenly their psychic mediums.
Speaker 1: They find themselves kind of at odds with their friends
Speaker 1: and family, and there were co workers. It sounds like
Speaker 1: you kind of landed softly abilities right right. But did
Speaker 1: were you aware of that before you found yours or
Speaker 1: was it an after the fact thing.
Speaker 3: I want to give you an anecdote for a ment,
Speaker 3: just to explain my family dynamics. So I went back
Speaker 3: from Tampa to New Jersey when I was eighteen, and
Speaker 3: I wanted to go into the city to get like
Speaker 3: a fake ID for myself. I know I shouldn't be
Speaker 3: talking like that, being an attorney, but that was what
Speaker 3: I was. So my mom was sleeping and I was upstairs,
Speaker 3: and I went down the steps and she goes, don't
Speaker 3: She goes, don't go to the city tonight. I loved
Speaker 3: five minutes outside, five miles outside New York City in
Speaker 3: New Jersey. Don't go to the city tonight. You're gonna
Speaker 3: lose fifty dollars. You're gonna be upset. Don't do it.
Speaker 3: I was like, whoa. Just before we had cell phones
Speaker 3: were you know, like I had a landline in my
Speaker 3: bedroom that was my home phone for me, you know
Speaker 3: each other. And so I go in the car and
Speaker 3: tell my friends this, we'd go to the city. Stupid me,
Speaker 3: eighteen years old, goes into the city. I lost fifty dollars.
Speaker 3: I came home upset. And when I got home, my
Speaker 3: mom was waiting for me, and she's like, you didn't
Speaker 3: listen to my advice. I go, no, she goes, when
Speaker 3: I get those kind of feelings, follow them. I was like, WHOA.
Speaker 3: I always felt like she was like watching me when
Speaker 3: she wasn't there. But how our family was. My grandmother
Speaker 3: used to get ititchy hands and go play at the
Speaker 3: dog tracks and see Tucust, New Jersey and went thousands
Speaker 3: of dollars and be quiet about it. And like, you know,
Speaker 3: like my family had this. I don't know how to
Speaker 3: explain it, this intuitive abilities.
Speaker 1: And we got to meet because I gotta rub off
Speaker 1: on you a little bit because I need a little
Speaker 1: bit of that hands. Yeah, not necessarily hands, but you know,
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 2: Hearing you talk about the feelings of love that have
Speaker 2: been coming through. But have any shadows that ever come through?
Speaker 3: Oh? When you say shadows, you mean like do I
Speaker 3: deal with.
Speaker 2: Like discuss not your own personal healing, but just like
Speaker 2: anything kind of creepy that's not you or your family.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this to you as a medium. I
Speaker 3: use my abilities as a medium, if you want to
Speaker 3: call it that. I mean, it's like saying, do you
Speaker 3: have great vision and can you be a marchman and shoot,
Speaker 3: you know, at a range, or do you have the
Speaker 3: ability to go bench press five thousand you know, five
Speaker 3: thousand rep. So it's just an ability I have, but
Speaker 3: I use it to focus on the light side of things.
Speaker 3: So when I work with clients and they call me
Speaker 3: for a reading, I tune into their energy. I just
Speaker 3: every energy medium as an intuitive person, whatever, and I'll
Speaker 3: tune into their energy and their loved ones will come through.
Speaker 3: And it's usually I focus in the light. So I
Speaker 3: focus on clarity, reassurance, giving people that ability not to
Speaker 3: feel so caught and grief when they know that their
Speaker 3: loved ones are watching them now. And so in terms
Speaker 3: of the dark sided things, I have done some paranormal investigations,
Speaker 3: one three weeks ago in Utah where my whole paradigm
Speaker 3: shift about the paranormal changed. I never saw anything like
Speaker 3: that before and it was and we just did a
Speaker 3: video for it. So it's actually on a YouTube realm
Speaker 3: tube called Ghosts I try Thin ghost Quests, and so
Speaker 3: if you watch it, it's one aired each week right now.
Speaker 3: It's it's a remarkable thing because I got scratched by
Speaker 3: something and we actually caught stuff on tape, like the
Speaker 3: Paranormal Investigator ghost Hunter shows. You see. I was part
Speaker 3: of one and it was crazy and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: I want to do more of it in a safe,
Speaker 3: you know, controlled way. But it made me realize that
Speaker 3: we're not in Our world is a lot bigger. Our
Speaker 3: universe is so much larger and more profound, even for
Speaker 3: me as a skeptic, because I was always skeptical of
Speaker 3: those shows are a skeptical spirits, and even as a medium,
Speaker 3: I was skeptical about non related spirits popping in and
Speaker 3: having to deal with. But you know, when I say
Speaker 3: related spirits, I mean people who'm friends with I could
Speaker 3: pick up on their relatives, or people I read with
Speaker 3: when they trust me to read for them, I pick
Speaker 3: up on normal. You know, when I say normal, I
Speaker 3: pick up on connected spirits to those people all the investigation,
Speaker 3: that wasn't the case. It was. It was very different.
Speaker 2: I was really hoping when I asked that question, you
Speaker 2: can say, Nope, doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: If it would have been in July or a month
Speaker 3: or two ago, I would have been like that. But now,
Speaker 3: unfortunately I could tell you that I know there's stuff
Speaker 3: out there that you know, you have to be prepared
Speaker 3: when you deal with them kind of thing, and you
Speaker 3: have to make sure you're you know what you're going
Speaker 3: into before you go there.
Speaker 1: Crazy kookie thing is that you said you enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I actually did it for a while and I hated it. Man,
Speaker 1: I did the feeling. I was so freaked out. I
Speaker 1: hate like the one time I went into a place
Speaker 1: and you can tell immediately that there was something in there,
Speaker 1: and the closer you got to this one particular room,
Speaker 1: the more it felt. It was like palpable and I
Speaker 1: was like, nope, I'm out of here. I did for
Speaker 1: like I think I did two or three times, and
Speaker 1: I was done.
Speaker 3: I went to this place in Utah, and I'm telling
Speaker 3: you right now, if you were to see these bit
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to put I mean, I guess I
Speaker 3: should promote myself that I'm not. I don't the videos
Speaker 3: themselves do enough justice to show when you're going into
Speaker 3: a place. And I already know as a psychic, I
Speaker 3: have spiritual things happen to me every single day, Like
Speaker 3: I'll wake up and one of my close friends fathers
Speaker 3: will pop in and tell me call my daughter, let
Speaker 3: her know everything's okay, and then I'll go grab the
Speaker 3: phone to call her, and she's calling me about something else,
Speaker 3: and the synchronicities are off the charts. So I'm used
Speaker 3: to communicating with familiar loved ones, deceased animals even, or whatever.
Speaker 3: But when you have the paranormal and it's really there,
Speaker 3: it just makes you realize how big of a universe
Speaker 3: we have. Even on the other side.
Speaker 1: Now, I've heard that the stuff that I felt, the
Speaker 1: stuff that you felt, the weird vibe stuff, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of our own shadows that we're bringing to these
Speaker 1: kinds of things. Now it might not be ours, but
Speaker 1: it could be someone who was there before or someone
Speaker 1: along those lines, and not necessarily a demon or something
Speaker 1: like that. So just so we can let Karen sleep tonight,
Speaker 1: just go ahead and say you agree with me on that.
Speaker 1: I agree that it's just it's not really demons or
Speaker 1: anything like that. It's actually just like our own shadows
Speaker 1: and it's just as long as you so you're fine.
Speaker 3: I'll say this. I've saved my house since I've come
Speaker 3: back from my trip each week. I used to save
Speaker 3: once every few months. Now I'm saging weekly, but I
Speaker 3: find that it's a good practice to do anyway, because
Speaker 3: it's like dusting. You're clearing the energies out. Do I
Speaker 3: know what I encountered in Utah? Was it this or
Speaker 3: was it that? I don't know exactly what it was.
Speaker 3: When you get scratched next morning and those scratches appear
Speaker 3: for four hours and then disappear, and then you have
Speaker 3: weird dreams and you come back to Tampa. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was a unique experience. I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to let Karen sleep tonight. You're not going
Speaker 1: wrong with the plane here.
Speaker 3: Let me cover you with this. I would recommend staging
Speaker 3: once in a while, and that should give you. That
Speaker 3: should give you peace and when you slay down. One
Speaker 3: of the things I learned as a psychic medium is
Speaker 3: I lay down, I take three deep breasts, I go
Speaker 3: to meditate a little, and I pretend I don't I mean,
Speaker 3: I imagine myself with a ball of white protective energy
Speaker 3: protecting me, and I let that energy come from me
Speaker 3: and fill into the entire room, and I keep the
Speaker 3: doors closed and that allows me to sleep where I'm
Speaker 3: not afraid of any spiritual activity around me or anything,
Speaker 3: and so you might be able to do something like
Speaker 3: that just to come for yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've had some I don't know if
Speaker 2: I ever told you this, but when our daughter was little,
Speaker 2: when we lived in the little box, we didn't really
Speaker 2: live in the box. It was very small, duplex.
Speaker 1: It wasn't her a bridge.
Speaker 2: I had this dream one night and like I went
Speaker 2: into her room and there was something dark moving towards
Speaker 2: her bed, and I remember just mustering every ounce of
Speaker 2: strength and everything in my soul and just yelling no.
Speaker 2: And it looked it like kind of turned around and
Speaker 2: stopped in the left.
Speaker 3: Here's an observations we talk about this, don't we all
Speaker 3: have our eight year old in her child within ourselves
Speaker 3: that gets scared no matter what, even when we can
Speaker 3: be what we are in real life, an attorney or
Speaker 3: you know, any of our roles. Because my mom the
Speaker 3: other day told me, and I was watching her when
Speaker 3: this happened, because she lives with me now and she's
Speaker 3: seventy seven, And she went to the kitchen and she goes,
Speaker 3: were you just behind me? And I'm sitting in front
Speaker 3: of her on the other side of room. I'm my recliner.
Speaker 3: I'm like no, She's like, well that was that spirit.
Speaker 3: I go what? She goes, well, there's a spirit that's
Speaker 3: been visiting here. I'm like, what wait, whoa what arm
Speaker 3: on my shoulder to reassure me that everything's going to
Speaker 3: be okay. And I'm like, so I picked out the
Speaker 3: sage and I started saging yeah here because I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing this and I'm supposed to so.
Speaker 2: But what if it's a good ghost.
Speaker 3: Well she said it was, so I take her works
Speaker 3: for it, but I'm still staging anyway because the rent
Speaker 3: chipping towards a mortgage or something.
Speaker 1: In spite of everything, though. The scary is the movie
Speaker 1: Poltic Guys freakd a living crap out of No Man. No,
Speaker 1: But that's that's not the freakest thing for me. The
Speaker 1: freakiest thing was when she's in the kitchen, she's doing whatever,
Speaker 1: and she turns around and the chairs all split out,
Speaker 1: and she goes, well, that's weird, and she pushes them
Speaker 1: back in and she goes back to doing the dishes
Speaker 1: and she turns around all a sudden they're like all
Speaker 1: stacked up on the table. That f reached me out
Speaker 1: for some reason, and I can ever never watch that
Speaker 1: movie again because of that.
Speaker 2: Oh, I was just gonna say, watch it now, the
Speaker 2: clown Man. That was the thing.
Speaker 3: Going to go horror, those two movies.
Speaker 1: I grew up in Connecticut, so Amineville was right down
Speaker 1: the street, for lack of a better term. So when
Speaker 1: that movie came out, I hated it because it gets like,
Speaker 1: that's my neighbor. That's not not a good thing. So
Speaker 1: I'm not a horror fan. I used to be. I
Speaker 1: used to I used to be love being scared and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, But I can't watch them anymore.
Speaker 1: You know what, We're living in a horror show as
Speaker 1: it is. We don't need any extra added horror crap
Speaker 1: on her piled up.
Speaker 3: On We're living even script without realizing it.
Speaker 1: Oh, we are, for sure, for sure. So let's get
Speaker 1: back to the topic on hand, because your story fascinates me.
Speaker 1: You are walking that fine line between law and the
Speaker 1: WU really really well. But how have you been able
Speaker 1: to so successfully separate the two and how can someone
Speaker 1: who is trying to do something similar not find themselves
Speaker 1: in too deep in one world or the other.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for that. First off, I'll say two things. One,
Speaker 3: there are other psychic lawyers out there. There's actually somebody
Speaker 3: who is trademarked psychic lawyer psychic term.
Speaker 1: We know him. I know him quite well.
Speaker 3: You don't know, and I admire that. It's funny because
Speaker 3: I go by Jason Zook as a pseudonym. That's actually
Speaker 3: a shortened version of my name from my grandfather, where
Speaker 3: Jason C. A. Follow is my legal name. So no
Speaker 3: pun intended. But for the longest time I had two
Speaker 3: identities going on without the two interrupting each other. And
Speaker 3: I did that very strictly, just so that I can
Speaker 3: have a normalcy to an extent. I wanted to be
Speaker 3: able to be intuitive and it gives me endorphins. It
Speaker 3: connects me to people on a deeper level, and it's
Speaker 3: so much more meaningful, and it gives me purpose when
Speaker 3: I can, you know, have a good reading with somebody
Speaker 3: and connect with someone, help them know that we're not
Speaker 3: just living in time matter space. We stand and we going.
Speaker 3: That's the mystery death. A lot of us don't appreciate that.
Speaker 3: I feel after talking to thousands of people on other side,
Speaker 3: I feel pretty strongly about we just.
Speaker 1: Keep going, like wh wh wh wh whoa whoh woh.
Speaker 1: You can't just say that and just walk on like
Speaker 1: you didn't just step on it. What do you mean
Speaker 1: we keep going? What does that mean after we die?
Speaker 3: Well, if I was to tell you that these are
Speaker 3: meat suits and our bodies or avatars on this planet.
Speaker 3: My personal belief from talking to everyone on other side
Speaker 3: is when we die, it's like fall asleep on the
Speaker 3: couch well watching TV. Think of that image for a minute.
Speaker 3: Think of after this interview, you go lay down later
Speaker 3: and you're watching a show and you just zoom out,
Speaker 3: you know, you fall asleep, and then you're on the
Speaker 3: other side, and then you're given a greet somebody who's
Speaker 3: like a familiar person for making my grandfather, my mom whoever,
Speaker 3: and that person orient tatch. You and I believe that
Speaker 3: we are very closely connected. Love connects us to the
Speaker 3: other side like an umbilical chord. So when you want
Speaker 3: to talk to your loved one that's on the other side,
Speaker 3: I want to talk to my grandfather, I'll go look
Speaker 3: in the mirrors, I'll brushing my teeth and I'll speak
Speaker 3: to him telepathically in my head, and I get a
Speaker 3: penny later on or I'll get confirmation in a dream,
Speaker 3: like there's a connectedness between our sleep, our meditation, our prayer,
Speaker 3: and the other side. And they talk to us in breadcrumbs,
Speaker 3: like synchronistic numbers, like angel numbers will line up and
Speaker 3: synchronize with a song, a penny from heaven on the ground,
Speaker 3: a bird, a feather. There's all these signs that happen
Speaker 3: out there that most of us just think serendipitous. I've
Speaker 3: had plenty of enough experiences in my life that I
Speaker 3: know that's not serendipitous. When it's authentic, you'll know, You'll
Speaker 3: get goosebumps. You know. These things aren't something you can
Speaker 3: just create or make up. It happens as a force
Speaker 3: of nature.
Speaker 1: I believe I might know someone that feels that very strongly.
Speaker 1: So you're reaching to the choir in a very very
Speaker 1: strong way, someone who who is living in both worlds.
Speaker 1: What kind of advice can you give us? With the
Speaker 1: world being as it is, people were talking about this
Speaker 1: is big spiritual awakening happening and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But and yet the more people awaken, the more the
Speaker 1: crap was finding in the world. I Mean, the stuff
Speaker 1: that's going on is so insane. How can everything be
Speaker 1: getting better when things seem to be getting worse. Let's
Speaker 1: take a break and we'll be right back. And now
Speaker 1: back to the skeptic metaphysicians. How can everything be getting
Speaker 1: better when things seem to be getting worse?
Speaker 3: Great question. I'm going to give you one point of there.
Speaker 3: It is real. This is all like the woo woo
Speaker 3: is real, And I'm in between both worlds. And you know,
Speaker 3: my day might start doing something as a lawyer, but
Speaker 3: by five o'clock I'm doing a podcast on a spiritual topic,
Speaker 3: or I'm having someone call me from California asking me
Speaker 3: for a reading, telling me that as she's been meditating
Speaker 3: the last two weeks, her spirit guid told me called
Speaker 3: Jason Zook and she just googled me and found me,
Speaker 3: and I was like, wait, what that's an Yeah, I've
Speaker 3: had that happen somehow so many times that you just
Speaker 3: can't make this stuff. And so when you're asking me
Speaker 3: about being between both worlds and trying to make sense
Speaker 3: of it, I compartimentalize. When I got diagnosed with my cancer,
Speaker 3: I comparliamentalize that. And I think if you can compartmentalize things,
Speaker 3: even with our chaotic, hectic world we're living in right
Speaker 3: now with all these changes and things that are happening,
Speaker 3: turbulence and all we're going through unrest, whatever else we're
Speaker 3: gonna call it uncertainty. I've had enough information through over
Speaker 3: time that I know we're going through this right now,
Speaker 3: like turbulence on an airplane. The plane will land. We
Speaker 3: will resume our normal lives in the future and look
Speaker 3: back at this as if you you know, you go
Speaker 3: to a party and you're you're looking at it years
Speaker 3: later trying to remember what happened that night. Like I
Speaker 3: feel like we have a point in the future where
Speaker 3: we get past all this, and I do believe that
Speaker 3: there is a spiritual weekend going on. When you watch
Speaker 3: home well like a home like a home repair type
Speaker 3: home warranty commercial, and you have an actress acting as
Speaker 3: if she's meditative and she's psychic, and she's telling people
Speaker 3: American home warranty, I don't mean to plug them, but
Speaker 3: they're doing where you'll see you'll see apps for meditation
Speaker 3: mixed in on the news. I'm like, WHOA, what's going
Speaker 3: on here. We're in a different world than we were
Speaker 3: five years.
Speaker 2: So you're talking about how you compartmentalize everything. What do
Speaker 2: you think would happen if you didn't, if you just
Speaker 2: kind of let the wu come into the lawyer.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm always going to be a lawyer because I
Speaker 3: trained for that. I took my student loans out for that.
Speaker 3: I've gone through all the experiences, right. But I feel
Speaker 3: like the psychic part of me. I make a joke
Speaker 3: about it. If there's any part of me that has
Speaker 3: the most confidence about anything I can do, it's my
Speaker 3: psychic side. I'm gonna tell you why, because it's it's
Speaker 3: it's in me, It's it's who I am. And I've
Speaker 3: got so much confidence when I do with it that
Speaker 3: I know that that's just me breathing. When I'm a lawyer,
Speaker 3: I've got to read a book, I got to figure
Speaker 3: it out. I got to look at the statutes. I
Speaker 3: gotta do analysis. It's tiring. Sometimes I love it, but
Speaker 3: it's tiring. And I help people when their houses get
Speaker 3: damaged and their property and the insurance company doesn't pay
Speaker 3: them right, And that's very every morning, and gratify I've
Speaker 3: been doing it for twenty three years. But when I
Speaker 3: get done with that, and then I'm on a weekend,
Speaker 3: and I have someone call me grieving their mom and
Speaker 3: they have been destrunt for months, and I get a
Speaker 3: chance to talk to them for a half hour and we
Speaker 3: connect to their mom and she's crying and I'm crying,
Speaker 3: and we're both having this awesome experience. And I get
Speaker 3: off the phone and I'm just sitting there and like, ah,
Speaker 3: that I could be a part of that. It kind
Speaker 3: of is. I call it like the cherry on the cake,
Speaker 3: you know, likes. It's just one of those moments I appreciate.
Speaker 1: With what I can do, and we appreciate that you
Speaker 1: can do it too. It's a special kind of thing,
Speaker 1: especially one foot in each world, because that's not an
Speaker 1: easy thing to do. On my side of things. I
Speaker 1: want to be more in the WU, but the three
Speaker 1: D gets too much in the way. So I'll ask
Speaker 1: you this question that I like asking a lot of
Speaker 1: people that come on the show, and we get really
Speaker 1: interesting answers on it. What's it just flew away?
Speaker 2: Maybe you're not supposed stay at the answer to that.
Speaker 2: Maybe not, because answer will come from within.
Speaker 3: No, damn it.
Speaker 1: This is a really important.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're talking about having one foot in both worlds,
Speaker 2: but for you, the three D usually takes over the WU. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so maybe how can you stay firmly ensconced in that
Speaker 2: as well?
Speaker 1: How can someone stay firmly ensconced in the five D world?
Speaker 1: If I want to be in the WU? What can
Speaker 1: I do to find my piece my way in there?
Speaker 3: Don't call it WU first, for one, make normal. It's
Speaker 3: just energy. And when you think about energy, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's all around us. We tune in. This is my belief.
Speaker 3: We tune into the energy. It's normal. It's part of
Speaker 3: our daily routine. And you can live a five D
Speaker 3: experience with your own intention and as you are willing
Speaker 3: it in your life. You know, like I could ignore
Speaker 3: people will call me for help or for readings or whatever,
Speaker 3: and just be a lawyer. And sometimes I burnt out
Speaker 3: on being a psychic, and sometimes I burnt out and
Speaker 3: being a lawyer, and it gets exhausting some moments, you know,
Speaker 3: But I just I've learned my ego is no longer
Speaker 3: in the way of that. For ten years I didn't
Speaker 3: tell anyone about it. My ego was in the way,
Speaker 3: which meant, oh my god, what if my clients found
Speaker 3: out in Mississippi or Alabama. I'm a psychic. Am I
Speaker 3: a heathen? Am I gonna be excommunicated from their Christmas
Speaker 3: guard lists in the future, you know. Like it was
Speaker 3: those thoughts that hit me for a long time. And
Speaker 3: then I met my best friend at a wedding in
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen. Sounds like a movie, Megan. She and I
Speaker 3: do our own show called Psychic Visions together. And when
Speaker 3: she saw me at this wedding and she's like, sat
Speaker 3: next to me, She's I've been trying to meet you
Speaker 3: for five years. I'm like, what, So Like, I heard
Speaker 3: you on a podcast and we went to college together
Speaker 3: and we were at different times, but I'm supposed to
Speaker 3: be best friends with you, and We're going to do a
Speaker 3: lot of things together. Spiritually, I was like, should I
Speaker 3: change my seat?
Speaker 1: I won't want check please, we want more.
Speaker 3: And the synchronicities just came flowing through our lives and
Speaker 3: we just had this like like profound soul connectedness. And
Speaker 3: ever since then we have this relationship. She's married, you know,
Speaker 3: but we're super close and best friends and we've created
Speaker 3: a lot of great things together. And if she was
Speaker 3: with me on that trip in Utah and so all
Speaker 3: the crazy stuff I saw, like we see these, and
Speaker 3: she owns a metaphysical store here in Tampa, so like
Speaker 3: we're all engross in these different aspects of our lives.
Speaker 3: But she's an entrepreneur, so her day job is owning
Speaker 3: a shop, but then afterwards she's into it. So a
Speaker 3: short answer to your question would be not to make
Speaker 3: it like it's complicated. You don't have to make it
Speaker 3: like a Facebook's task it's complicated. Make it simple. Just
Speaker 3: be like, hey, you know what, I'm intuitive. I can
Speaker 3: read things, so what so can other people? Well? What
Speaker 3: do I need to do to do it responsibly? Get
Speaker 3: your ego out of the way. Understand that the days
Speaker 3: I don't read people, there's people who want to me
Speaker 3: to read them or do something with them, or you know,
Speaker 3: discuss things or whatever it is. And so the time
Speaker 3: I dedicate away from one to the other, I try
Speaker 3: to balance it because I'm a Libra, and in your context,
Speaker 3: I would say try to bring it into your life.
Speaker 1: More So, first of all, yes, the egos is the problem,
Speaker 1: and I'm processing it as i'm saying this right now,
Speaker 1: so I'm distracted. But back to the question I had
Speaker 1: for you earlier on you talked about. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say chaos, but the challenges that we're experiencing in
Speaker 1: this speed world right now. In your estimation, you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of experience with people on the other side.
Speaker 1: In your estimation, are we supposed to fight to make
Speaker 1: it better or are we just supposed to be everything
Speaker 1: is perfect? Because we've heard both sides, and I'm really
Speaker 1: curious to hear what your take on it is.
Speaker 3: When you say everything is perfect, just can you libry
Speaker 3: on That's why I can't say your question better.
Speaker 1: Like everything is happening for a reason in the exact
Speaker 1: way it's supposed to. All the challenges are there for
Speaker 1: to help you get a certain place or whatever. Suggest
Speaker 1: I believe that, So that's what you believe.
Speaker 3: I do believe that, because look, there's some things. You
Speaker 3: might be introduced to somebody who's a twin flame, for example,
Speaker 3: and you might go through this horrendous personal experience, but
Speaker 3: there's a there's a behind that. It's a learning experience.
Speaker 3: There's soul contracts involved that there's so many crazy things, right,
Speaker 3: and then you can go through spiritual experiences the same
Speaker 3: way you might have to learn certain things. Us getting
Speaker 3: cancer might have taught us to be more authentic with ourselves,
Speaker 3: have more authentic, deeper relationship with people in our lives,
Speaker 3: making us strive to live five D lives now instead
Speaker 3: of waiting till later. You know, there's different aspects of
Speaker 3: how to see that, and so even the experiences that
Speaker 3: we dread that we might like ten years ago, somebody said,
Speaker 3: what's the most scariest thing you'd go through that you'd
Speaker 3: be fearful of, I'd be like, yeah, getting cancer. Now
Speaker 3: I've got a card. I've done that. Like I think
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be afraid. Like I try to find humor
Speaker 3: and things I go through because I think it helps,
Speaker 3: you know, with everything we've been through the last five
Speaker 3: years as a world, and humor is an elixir. It's
Speaker 3: something that can keep us grounded and can help us
Speaker 3: make light of things that we can't normally make light of.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, very true. Okay, we're running in time. I
Speaker 1: want to make sure we definite talk about your podcast
Speaker 1: because you've You've brought it up a couple of times
Speaker 1: and I think you've got two podcasts, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: fund like you're an attorney in an overachiever or anything.
Speaker 1: But so tell us about your shows to say, if
Speaker 1: someone wants to listen to you, they can't sure.
Speaker 3: My original podcast is called Jason's Look the Social Psychic
Speaker 3: and I'm the host of the Social Psychic radio show,
Speaker 3: and that's available on all platforms, Apple, everything else. Also
Speaker 3: in a I also have another show called Psychic Visions,
Speaker 3: which my best friend Megan I mentioned earlier. Megan Cain
Speaker 3: and I are co host of and both shows are
Speaker 3: signed with Electricast Media. Electricast Media is out of La
Speaker 3: Mark Nettter and Peter Rafelson our producers. And then we
Speaker 3: also have a Paranormal Universe network for podcasters who delve
Speaker 3: in paranormal, spiritual, psychic kind of realm if they would
Speaker 3: like to join our network. We're building a podcast network
Speaker 3: right now. We have almost about ten shows and we're
Speaker 3: trying to get to one hundred.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's great. And then if someone wanted to reach
Speaker 1: out to you and either get a reading from you
Speaker 1: or just kind of hang out with you, because you
Speaker 1: are just like one of those guys that you just
Speaker 1: want to hang out with, right or even if they
Speaker 1: had like legal questions like I don't have.
Speaker 3: But the website, I have the website for my lawyer
Speaker 3: and stuff at cfollow law dot com my last name,
Speaker 3: and then I have my my website for the Social Psychic,
Speaker 3: which is the social Psychic dot com. And you can
Speaker 3: just contact me on social media. I go buy the
Speaker 3: Social Psychic on Instagram. I use that the most, but
Speaker 3: I'm also on other platforms. You can find me with
Speaker 3: the Social Psychic or Jason Zooke. Feel free to reach
Speaker 3: out to me, and I'm happy to talk to anyone
Speaker 3: who's interually want to talk about spiritual stuff, or if
Speaker 3: you want a reading, or if you want to find
Speaker 3: about podcasting, because it's always fun to talk about that stuff.
Speaker 3: Took very cool.
Speaker 1: Well, we're going to add links directly on our show notes.
Speaker 1: So if you missed him saying all that, if you
Speaker 1: didn't have a piece of paper in a pend on
Speaker 1: HND at the moment, just go to skeptic meteposition dot com.
Speaker 1: You're used to it by now. Just go there, go
Speaker 1: to his episode page. His links are going to be
Speaker 1: directly on the show notes, either in the show notes
Speaker 1: or on the blog. Either way they'll be there. It's
Speaker 1: easy for you to connect with him. So ZOK, this
Speaker 1: has been a lot of fun. You are are a
Speaker 1: ton of fun to hang out with.
Speaker 3: I'd love to have you guys come on my show
Speaker 3: as well. That would be fun, continue to enjoy. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is just when I do podcasting. I make the joke.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine ten years ago if you were telling somebody, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I talked about my most vulnerable moment, and there was
Speaker 3: a large audience listening to us. But if you're at
Speaker 3: a restaurant, you'd be whispering to each other like that, right, right, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: It has been a lot of fun. But to follow
Speaker 1: up on that, I don't think I would be necessarily
Speaker 1: and again ego talking, I don't think i'd be talking
Speaker 1: about this quite so loudly in a restaurant, right, So
Speaker 1: I would be whispering the restaurant and where I'm right
Speaker 1: now speaking to thousands of people who watch and listen
Speaker 1: to this podcast on daily basis. So to your point, yes,
Speaker 1: I was great, But they've pre qualified themselves, like they've
Speaker 1: shown that they were interested in this stuff by coming
Speaker 1: to our show.
Speaker 3: So I feel a.
Speaker 1: Little bit more comfortable. The people in the restaurant are like,
Speaker 1: these guys are whack of dudes. Let's get out of
Speaker 1: you this check.
Speaker 3: Please, I've gotten those looks over the years.
Speaker 1: Wave at them all right. Well, Jason, thank you so
Speaker 1: so much for coming on the show. It's been an
Speaker 1: absolute pleasure and we look forward to staying in touch.
Speaker 3: Thank you, look forward to it. Thank you so much,
Speaker 3: and a.
Speaker 1: Huge thank you to you. If you know someone who
Speaker 1: would benefit from hearing the message we're sharing on the show,
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Speaker 1: Well that's all for now. We will see you on
Speaker 1: the next episode of The Skeptic Metaphysician. Until then, take care,