WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:03.879 Welcome all you metaphysical tooth seekers. Today's episode is a 2 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:07.480 special one as we're joined by an attorney with a twist. 3 00:00:08.519 --> 00:00:12.640 He also happens to be a gifted psychic mediums. Yep, 4 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:15.679 you heard that right. We'll meet Jason, a lawyer by 5 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:19.519 day and a psychic medium by well, also day in 6 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:23.000 probably night two, but anyway. From from law books to 7 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:26.120 spirit guides, this episode promises to be one heck of 8 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:29.320 a ride. Our guest is going to share his experiences 9 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:33.359 from predicting life changing events to why he dedicated his 10 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:38.719 podcast to social justice and spirituality. This mystical legal eagle 11 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:42.159 has been providing intuitive guidance since two thousand and four 12 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:46.920 and two thousand seventeen decided to go pro. But that's 13 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:49.600 not all Today, Jason is also going to take us 14 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:53.200 on a magical carpet rite of topics from his astounding 15 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:57.640 psychic predictions, to his ventures into podcasting and his journey 16 00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:01.880 towards spiritual awakening. Buckle up, It's going to be an engaging, 17 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:05.400 fun filled adventure, so stay tuned and prepare to have 18 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:11.040 your mind expanded and your spirit lifted. My name is 19 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:13.519 Will and I'm Karen, and unlike moulderin Scully. 20 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:14.560 We both want to believe. 21 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:16.560 So we've embarked in a journey of discovery. 22 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:19.200 We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and 23 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:20.040 metaphysical world. 24 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:23.439 We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even 25 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:24.879 joined a coven of witches. 26 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:26.680 And wait, you joined a coven? 27 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:30.120 Yep, all the interest of finding something, anything that will 28 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:32.599 prove that there's something beyond this physical. 29 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:33.920 Three dimensional world we all live in. 30 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:49.840 This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. Hey, they're welcome to the 31 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:52.799 Skeptic Metaphysicians. I'm Will and I'm Karen, and today we 32 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.280 have a special treat to see. Our guest today is 33 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:57.280 named Jason. 34 00:01:57.519 --> 00:01:58.319 That sounds special. 35 00:01:58.400 --> 00:01:58.599 Yees. 36 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:04.599 To begin with, I know now, Jason is an attorney. Okay, yes, 37 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.159 he's an attorney. He's licensed to practice law in five 38 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:08.360 different states. 39 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:11.560 Does he know? But never mind, we'll. 40 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:14.080 Get to that. He earned his bachelors from the University 41 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:18.000 of Tampa, his juris doctorate from Nova Southeastern University, and 42 00:02:18.039 --> 00:02:23.719 his master's in International and Comparative law from Georgetown University. 43 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:26.319 Not someone you typically think would be on our show. Right, 44 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:30.560 You've listened to the show before, right the twist. The 45 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:32.759 twist is that it just so happens that Jason is 46 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:36.719 also a psychic medium and he's been providing accurate, intuitive 47 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:39.840 advice and guidance since two thousand and four, so he 48 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:43.879 can help us. I pray to God on so many 49 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:47.240 levels now. In twenty seventeen, he decided to offer intuitive 50 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:50.360 guidance professionally so he could further provide clients with a 51 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:53.560 chance to gain insight on matters within their life which 52 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:56.560 require further attention, just like an attorney. 53 00:02:57.560 --> 00:02:58.879 But if you want to forget some of those matters, 54 00:02:59.159 --> 00:02:59.599 help with that. 55 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:04.439 By working with others to confront existing obstacles and challenges, 56 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:09.039 Jason aspires to provide clarity and reassurance to those seeking advice. 57 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:12.639 I am thrilled to welcome to the show the social 58 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:17.680 psychic attorney, psychic medium and podcaster Jason Zuke. And I 59 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:19.479 don't know if Zuke is the way to pronounce your name, 60 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:20.560 but I hope you got it it is. 61 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:23.719 First off, it's such a pleasure, and you can call 62 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:26.039 it Zuke. I go buy zuck Zuck. 63 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:29.439 Okay, we're thrilled to have you. We talked on the 64 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:31.800 show before many times about the fact that a lot 65 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:35.280 of people who are in this space. A few years ago, 66 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:38.319 it was just the people with the colored hair and 67 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:40.599 the gypsy robes and all that kind of stuff that 68 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:44.479 had the crystal balls, right, But now it's everyday people 69 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:47.759 are awakening more and more people like you. An attorney, 70 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:51.080 a doctor's professional folks, so you wouldn't necessarily think would 71 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:54.520 be in this space. So your journey as both an 72 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:58.199 attorney and a psychic medium, it's kind of interesting. So 73 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:01.360 how did these two seemingly different roles compliment each other 74 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:02.280 in your life's work. 75 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:05.159 They were totally unplanned. And what I mean by that 76 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:07.800 is as a normal person, and I still feel normal, 77 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:10.240 even be an intuitive But before I knew I had 78 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:14.159 intuitive abilities, I went to school to become a lawyer. 79 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:16.079 Without realizing it at first. I went to college and 80 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.120 went to law school, and I'd been doing that for 81 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:22.879 twenty three years. So my grandfather passed away in two 82 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:25.639 thousand and four. I used to get premonitions as a kid. 83 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:28.959 My mom and my grandmother both have psychic intuitive abilities. 84 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.279 My brothers even told me in the past that he's 85 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.240 had some brushes with intuition and stuff so for me, 86 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:37.360 I knew during college and law school that when my 87 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:40.279 grandfather passes away that I'd be by myself with no 88 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:43.360 one to console me. And go back a second. I 89 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:45.680 moved to Florida from New Jersey because my grandparents helped 90 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.519 raise me my mom's parents and so they raised me. 91 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:50.439 And so when my grandfather died in two thousand and four, 92 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:53.319 seven years later, my premonition came true. He had a 93 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:56.360 stroke a couple of days before I went to Wisconsin 94 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:59.199 to cover of deposition. My family wanted me to continue working. 95 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:00.680 I did get a chance a day of his stroke, 96 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:03.759 but he was just communicating with his hands at that point, 97 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:07.040 and he passed on when I was in Wisconsin. I 98 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:10.480 got stuck there overnight. So the actual premonition I had 99 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:12.360 about being alone by myself with no one to console 100 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:16.439 me king true. But what flipped that around a little 101 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:18.759 was my grandfather came to me in hotel room orbs 102 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:21.680 of Light looks like an unsolved mystery episode. I stepped 103 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:24.639 from being me normal to me in this new reality. 104 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:27.560 With my grandfather crossing over his orbs of light and 105 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:31.000 all that, a feeling of unconditional love washed over me 106 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:33.439 in the room I went from having my greatest fear 107 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:37.519 to having one of the most profound experiences of my 108 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:39.480 life that transformed my life and made me realize I 109 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:39.839 was like. 110 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:42.560 And so this was like a light switch. Right from 111 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:44.759 one minute you were an attorney, the next minute you. 112 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:49.279 Are in a different reality. It's like the matrix. I 113 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:51.079 came out of the ploid looking around, going what do 114 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:52.439 I do now? 115 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:54.959 So how much time passed between seeing the orbs and 116 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:56.720 the feeling of love, Like was there a little bit 117 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:57.720 of terror in between? 118 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:00.560 Or were you just like wait, zecking split? And I 119 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:03.120 bring up on sold mysteries because I'm like forty eight 120 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:05.040 right now. People younger and your audience may not know 121 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.720 what that is. But it was just my whole reality 122 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:11.639 got shifted. And I also had my first mediumship experience 123 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:14.439 that night after my grandfather, because my grandfather said to me, son, 124 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.680 I love you, don't don't grieve me, don't cry for me. 125 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:19.759 Go get some food for yourself. I'm always gonna be 126 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.199 with you. I'll be in your dreams. I'll communicate with you. 127 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:24.079 And I was like, WHOA, okay, Grandpa, I love you. 128 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:26.680 And then I went and got food and like had 129 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.040 no like no emotion about it, and one of my 130 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:31.000 close friend from high school called me, Tracy, and she 131 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:32.639 asked me about my grandfather. I said, oh, he died, 132 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:35.160 and I could sense for the first time, not for 133 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:38.199 my five senses, I could sense for my intuitive abilities. 134 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:39.800 As she was doubting what I was telling her orbs 135 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:43.600 of light my grandfather, you know. So I said to her, Hey, Tracy, 136 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:45.480 you know what. You don't believe what I'm telling you 137 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:48.120 right now? I get it. I know you're skeptical. I 138 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:49.759 am too. If it didn't happen to me, I be 139 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:53.759 a skeptic, I was a skepticist. And I said, I said, 140 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.040 what if your grandmother could come through to you right now? 141 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:58.560 She goes, my grand's been dead six months. I said, 142 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:00.879 what if she came through? And then her grandmother relaid 143 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:03.800 a specific message that only the two of them knew. 144 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:07.920 So she drops the phone starts crying in the bathroom. 145 00:07:07.959 --> 00:07:10.000 Her future husband grabs the phone at the time says, 146 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:12.480 what did you just say to my wife? Why she's 147 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:15.680 crying in the bathroom? And I was, I guess, my 148 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:18.120 best friend, I know, since I'm like fourteen thirteen, you know, 149 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:20.839 and so are you? Okay? She grabs me. She goes, 150 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:22.519 how did you know that? Only my grandmother knew that? 151 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:25.920 And then I got scared went back to Hella left 152 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:29.319 the lights on for ten years, like everyone for ten years, 153 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:33.040 I always had the lights on. So that's in a nutshell. 154 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:35.360 How my you know, reality shifted? 155 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:37.959 So how did the grandmother's message come to you? Is 156 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:39.519 it just a feeling that you knew or did you 157 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:42.839 some people hear like the actual voices? What was your experience? 158 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.600 You know? Interestingly enough, I sensed it. You know when 159 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:48.399 you get a daja vu moment you think about someone 160 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:50.879 and they call you and you're like, oh wow, that's 161 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:54.399 how the feeling feels. So I would have like these tingles, 162 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:56.720 like you sense it. You just your spidy sense comes off, 163 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.680 as I call it. And her grandmother was telling me 164 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:01.480 as I was, I don't know if I channel it 165 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:04.319 conn well strongly as a medium. She's telling me, let 166 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:08.199 Tracy know, and she said the specific message, learned it 167 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:11.160 out without realizing it, and they come through like charades. 168 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:15.519 So I'll get sounds, I'll get images. My clairvoyance has 169 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:16.759 grown a lot in the last few years, so I'll 170 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:19.959 get a lot of images, premonitions. If you're still to 171 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:22.560 show charmed. It's kind of like that. Sure gets the 172 00:08:22.600 --> 00:08:25.560 premonition images. Those are pretty spot on because I get 173 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:28.680 stuff like that, and so make sure of various different 174 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:29.439 things such as that. 175 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:32.559 Okay, So, as an attorney, how many times have you 176 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.399 been in court and you get a vision that the 177 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.600 purpose partner who died in the case comes out and says, 178 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:41.480 here it is where the bodies are buried, here's where 179 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:42.039 the money is. 180 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:42.320 Right. 181 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:44.360 How many times does that happen you've solved the case. 182 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:46.559 I have a formal answer for this, since I am 183 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:48.320 an attorney and a lawyer and a psychic and all 184 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.639 this fun thing. I'm gonna tell you. Since the rules 185 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:53.960 of ethical conduct, the rules of profetical conduct do not 186 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:57.320 have any provisions that governor lawyers who have psychic abilities, 187 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:00.399 I've kept the two so separate that when i'm court, 188 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.039 I just use my lawyer skills because I don't ever 189 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:04.639 want these two to conflate each other. 190 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:08.120 And yeah, yep, spoken like a true attorney. 191 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:09.960 Perfect and good for you using the lingo. 192 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:13.120 I am the purpose that's right, the purp and the 193 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:15.840 body is buried in the right. I got it, you know, 194 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:20.399 I got it. You do keep the two worlds separate? Then, yes, 195 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:23.240 how can you you just kind of switch it off 196 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:23.919 when you're in court? 197 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:26.679 Yeah, well, when I'm in lawyer mode, and I do 198 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:29.960 you know, I started out with this twenty years ago, right, 199 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:32.799 but I really didn't start doing it like full time, 200 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:35.440 like I say part time actually as like a night thing. 201 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:37.840 It's like it's like moonlighting, but not moonlighting. 202 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:40.559 It's version of night court. 203 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:43.039 Yeah, and except, so what I do is even when 204 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:44.519 I had my own physical office because I don't have 205 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:46.240 a physical officing more, but I had when I had one. 206 00:09:46.639 --> 00:09:48.840 I do readings in the evenings after six, so I 207 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:52.120 have clients line up for readings without telling anyone else 208 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:53.440 in the build, and that's what's going on. And then 209 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:54.919 I had my law clients during the day and they'd 210 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:57.159 breathe when I do a lot of like insurance stuff, 211 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:58.679 so I wouldn't have to be around people as much. 212 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:02.080 But it was mostly no. But even now, like I 213 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:05.840 have interesting days where I'll have two podcast interviews, two 214 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:08.600 like depositions as a lawyer, and then at night I'll 215 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:11.519 do two interviews and it's like gifting the gears between 216 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.440 the three. But a lot of people have multiple roles 217 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:16.200 they fill true what would you. 218 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:18.440 Do or how do you handle it if you were 219 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:21.720 like in a case and the victim was dead but 220 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:24.639 they came to and they're like, he's lying, he actually 221 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.240 did it, Like he's separated to do what if she 222 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:29.039 just came to him? 223 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:31.960 Well, you know what I mean, don't come. 224 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:34.440 It sounds like it'd make a great script to a 225 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:37.559 show on Netflix at something you watch. Right in real life, 226 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:39.960 I don't, I don't. I don't mix the twos, and 227 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.440 I do property insurance. So I haven't had anyone who 228 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:44.120 owns the house tell me they you know, in that 229 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:45.919 in that setting. I haven't had those kind of facts 230 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:46.639 present themselves. 231 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:50.559 So no, A the house falling on doors, which or whatever. 232 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:56.639 Shoot, all right, your story is really interesting, not just 233 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:58.960 because of the grandfather thing. But we do have something 234 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:01.000 in common, you and I, and that is that we're 235 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:04.399 both survivors of cancer. And the interesting thing about this 236 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:07.720 is that you actually predicted, you got a premonition about 237 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:11.480 your diagnosis before, like six months before. Right, However, tell 238 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:12.159 us that story. 239 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:17.919 So basically where my old office building was, I'm in Tampa, Florida. 240 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.120 So there's a place called Davis island and there's an 241 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:24.080 office space, like my old office had commercial space under it. 242 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.720 And this is back in twenty eighteen. March of twenty eighteen, 243 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:28.679 I had just started my podcast around the same time, 244 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:31.320 I went for a walk outside just to get some air, 245 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:34.200 you know, March in Tampa's like really nice spring, warm 246 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:36.840 weather but not too hot yet. And I'm walking and 247 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:39.039 I walk past the window that's underneath my office space 248 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:40.600 and I'm looking at my shirt and I'm looking at 249 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:42.120 my pants, and I'm like, just you know, it becomes 250 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:44.080 like a mirror that time of morning, and all of 251 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:46.679 a sudden, I'm looking at my reflection. I get wouldn't 252 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:48.320 it be weird if you had cancer and didn't know it? 253 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.639 And I was like, cancel that out. And then I 254 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:54.840 look again, and it did it a second time, and 255 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:56.840 then a third time, and all of a sudden, I 256 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:59.240 was like, Okay, I have cancer because this is my 257 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:02.279 body I'm looking yet, and this is my intuitive voice 258 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:05.120 speaking to me. So I went and spoke to a 259 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:07.360 bunch of the people I worked with and friends, and 260 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:09.200 I told my family, I said I might have cancer. 261 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.320 I don't know how to find out, but I feel 262 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:13.519 as if I do and they were all like, no, no, no, 263 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.759 that's just a crazy thought. And so fast forward. I 264 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.399 had suffered from diverticulitis for fifteen years, so my doctor 265 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:21.720 wanted me to get a cat scan to get it 266 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:24.960 checked and see about getting diverticulitis surgery. So I was 267 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:27.320 kind of doing that in anticipation of that. I went 268 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:30.440 and got a cat scan and the doctor calls me 269 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:32.440 and says, we need you to go to see eurologist 270 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:35.879 right away. And I'm like why, Well, the imprint from 271 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:38.879 the cat scan shows you have stage one kidney cancer. 272 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:42.399 I'm like what, just like my premonition, Oh my god. 273 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:44.879 And my doctor's like your premonition. I'm like yeah, doc, 274 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.320 and I explained it to him. He's like, well, luckily 275 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:50.000 this is the most aggressive cancer, you'll be able to 276 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:51.440 remove it. So he was already kind of giving me 277 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:53.720 a pep talk. But yeah, it was pretty crazy because 278 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:56.879 then I won't do that transition for three months ago. 279 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:58.360 As it is, when you go through cancer, depend on 280 00:12:58.399 --> 00:12:59.919 what you got. You have to wait for the m 281 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:02.519 and then the surgery or the procedure or chemo, whatever 282 00:13:02.559 --> 00:13:02.879 it is. 283 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:05.679 And so what I'm surprised by that you actually told 284 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:07.840 you doctor. Hey, doc, I had a premonition. I had 285 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:11.440 so talking about crossing the lines here ran Well, it 286 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:13.960 was different for you, it was a little different. We 287 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:16.120 were surprised we had no premonitions. 288 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:16.600 Yeah. 289 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:18.600 Yeah, but we're not here about We're here about Zuck. 290 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:21.919 We're not here about it though, in reference, because I 291 00:13:21.960 --> 00:13:24.080 know you being a cancer survivor something. I had a 292 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:26.759 cancer scare two years ago and I don't really talk 293 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:29.120 about it much, but my doctor, I had a kidney 294 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:31.120 stone went into the ar and they thought they found 295 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.200 another growth of my right kidne Because I didn't get 296 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:36.000 the kidney removed, I got a cryoblast on. And let 297 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:37.600 me tell you something. You have a type of thing 298 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:42.679 going on. Your psychology, your spirituality, your personal everything, mental health, 299 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:46.799 it all gets whacked out right. And I respect you 300 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:48.639 so much for sharing this on your show and bringing 301 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:50.559 it up during the interview, because I have utmost respect 302 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:52.840 for you and any cancer survivor, because only a cancer 303 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:55.639 survivor knows what a cancer survivor experiences when they go 304 00:13:55.679 --> 00:13:56.360 through a digo. 305 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:59.240 Yeah, there's nothing quite like a doctor saying yes, it 306 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:01.120 is true you have cancer, and then going to a 307 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.840 second doctor and having that confirmed. That's the worst, right, 308 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:05.720 because you always had that hope that you know now 309 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:07.879 that the doctor, second doctor go no, they got it wrong. 310 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:08.360 Nope. 311 00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:11.639 When the second doctor says yep, they're right, your world 312 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:15.559 the floor drops out from under you. Anyway. So I 313 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.039 just found that interesting that you were able to diagnose 314 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:21.000 your own you intuitively knew that you had it, which 315 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:23.799 it was complete opposite for us. But beyond that, I'm 316 00:14:23.799 --> 00:14:28.799 bringing out all your medical histories UK. You were undergoing 317 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:33.559 a colonoscopy and under anesthesia. You ended up having quite 318 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:35.279 the experience. Can you share that with us? 319 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:37.360 Yeah? I did an episode about it. I don't do 320 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:39.960 my own talking episodes where I don't interview someone else, 321 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:42.000 like it's just not my format. But that experience was 322 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:44.720 so profound. So I was diagnosed with the stage one 323 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:48.519 kidney cancer in August almost two oh, well, twenty eighteen, 324 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:51.799 so do the mass six years, six years ago. And 325 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:54.480 I went through this waiting Holt waiting period in order 326 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:56.799 to get my MRI done. So then I had the 327 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:59.039 surgery and then it was cancer free. And I was 328 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.559 determined cancer free on September twenty sixth of that year. 329 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:03.840 So then I had to go in for a colonoscopy 330 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:08.759 for UH to prepare for my diverticu AE surgery in December. 331 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:12.279 It was a great year, Oh Jesus. But I go 332 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:17.639 in for the colonoscopy not expecting much and I get 333 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:19.840 put under. But before I got put under, I started 334 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:21.799 reading the nurse who was putting me under, like who 335 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:25.240 was catering to me? And I thought she had someone 336 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:26.919 die around her that was her ex husband, but he 337 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:28.879 really was in her husband. They got divorced, but he 338 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:31.919 still considers her his wife. And I was talking to 339 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.279 her while she was like getting me prepared to go 340 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:37.240 under and telling her, your son, don't fight with him, 341 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:42.600 just let him graduate. Just let me graduated. Already. My 342 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:44.840 son and I just argument this morning. He's graduating in May, 343 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:46.759 and I had a big argument about and she anyway, 344 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:49.240 that was a side story. So I go under and 345 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:51.200 I'm in this garden again, like the first time my 346 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:53.159 grandpa came orbs a light, it was like one way, 347 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:56.799 but this time I'm in a garden and everything was 348 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:59.440 alive and connected as one. And when I say that, 349 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:02.159 I mean everything felt like it breathed, It would breathe. 350 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:06.600 Everything was emotionally love unattached. Everything's one. We are one, 351 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:09.360 and that's the interconnectedness I felt from that experience. It 352 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:12.679 was like if we're living in like ten eighty right now, 353 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:16.360 as like pixels. This was like five billion pixels all 354 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:20.200 my senses. Ohh wow. It was profound. And my grandfather 355 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:22.440 spoke to me. He said, son, I love you. When 356 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:25.080 you get out of the out of here, talk to 357 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:26.879 your mother when you call her, get out of here, 358 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:29.519 call your mom. Tell her the specific words. My grand's 359 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:33.919 very specific. Tell your mom that every night she prayed 360 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:35.960 about you by yourself and never told you that. She 361 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:39.200 didn't want you to pre cease predecease her. She's going 362 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:40.639 to live a normal life. You're going to live a 363 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:42.960 normal life to the best of your ability. She's going 364 00:16:43.000 --> 00:16:44.799 to die after you. You're not going to predecease her. 365 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:46.840 I was like, okay, Grandpa, I love you, and then 366 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:51.200 I come too. Then I called my mom and my 367 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:53.039 friend picked me up. My best friend, Megan picked me up, 368 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:54.919 and we got we left the place to get something 369 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:56.720 to eat or whatever, and I called my mom and said, Mom, 370 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:58.840 I just had the most profound experience I think was Grandpa. 371 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:01.200 And She's like, well, what did he say. And I 372 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:03.399 relayed the message back to her and I said, he 373 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:05.559 wants me to know to tell you that when you 374 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.400 prayed every day for sit He goes, She goes, Oh 375 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:09.559 my god, my prayer that you weren't going to die 376 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:12.240 before me I would die. I was like, yeah. She 377 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:14.720 started crying. And my mom's not the most emotional person. 378 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:16.559 She was a school teacher in Patterson, New Jersey, inner 379 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:19.440 city school and very strict. But you know, anyway, she 380 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:20.960 were crying. I knew right then and there that this 381 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:24.960 was significant and authentic and real. So I started crying. 382 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:26.839 My mom was crying, I'm crying, and we just had 383 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:30.039 this big Kumbaya moment. And you know, I have a 384 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:31.640 lot of moments like that with my mom about my 385 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:34.880 grandfather and my grandmother. You know, being on the other side, 386 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:36.599 you feel these things all the time. You sense me. 387 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:37.200 Yeah. 388 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:39.680 Well, it's very cool, though. It sounds like your family. 389 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:41.759 A lot of people who go through these kinds of 390 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:44.519 things and suddenly one day they suddenly their psychic mediums. 391 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:47.920 They find themselves kind of at odds with their friends 392 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:50.279 and family, and there were co workers. It sounds like 393 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:54.000 you kind of landed softly abilities right right. But did 394 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:57.079 were you aware of that before you found yours or 395 00:17:57.319 --> 00:17:58.519 was it an after the fact thing. 396 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:00.000 I want to give you an anecdote for a ment, 397 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:02.680 just to explain my family dynamics. So I went back 398 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:06.039 from Tampa to New Jersey when I was eighteen, and 399 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:07.799 I wanted to go into the city to get like 400 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:09.640 a fake ID for myself. I know I shouldn't be 401 00:18:09.680 --> 00:18:11.559