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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome to another episode of Hard Truths. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>my guest Dana Kipple. She is the author of a

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<v Speaker 1>New Force, a book about plasma consciousness and the new

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<v Speaker 1>human potential. She's a polymath, sci fi filmmaker, author, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's interested in plasma intelligence. She's a futurist and she's

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<v Speaker 1>an optimist as well. Dana, thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining my podcast. How are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing great? So did I get the

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<v Speaker 1>introduction right there? Well, how would you explain your research and.

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<v Speaker 3>What you do? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that it is on the frontier and

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<v Speaker 2>the edge of what people are doing in science and spirituality.

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<v Speaker 2>So I call plasma like the perfect bridge of science

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<v Speaker 2>and spirituality. My theory is basically, yes, in science there

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<v Speaker 2>is a plasma. It is the for state of matter

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<v Speaker 2>and ionized gas. And my theory is that there is

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<v Speaker 2>a finer plasma that is multi dimensional. It is sentient,

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<v Speaker 2>is the living fabric of reality, and it is finer

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<v Speaker 2>than the plasma we can now prove or observe in science.

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<v Speaker 2>It creates the observable, but it is somewhere between the

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<v Speaker 2>unobservable and observable. So I think one of my life

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<v Speaker 2>challenges will be, Okay, how do we observe or prove

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<v Speaker 2>this and Dewey or is it more about the relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with it? So that's kind of it in a nutshell.

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<v Speaker 1>And what led you to even like kind of look

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<v Speaker 1>into this. I mean, I'm very interested in how people

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<v Speaker 1>get involved in plasma and is they like read some

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<v Speaker 1>of the people that I always get people mentioned to me,

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<v Speaker 1>like you, Joseph Ferrell or Robert Temple, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you get involved?

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy story? So Robert Temple is a great mentor of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>I love him and his wife Olivia. He's like my

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<v Speaker 2>father and then she's like my mother of plasma. But

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<v Speaker 2>I actually found them afterwards. So I was meditating about

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<v Speaker 2>five years ago before a new science of heaven came

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<v Speaker 2>out and all this is really hard to explain. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't believe me, but this is what happened. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like my third time meditating, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a nosis. I just knew. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>plasma is the vehicle for consciousness. It is intelligent. It

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<v Speaker 2>is something you know, beyond what they're telling us in

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<v Speaker 2>science that has there's a natural suppression to it, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I just knew all of it has to do with

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<v Speaker 2>like Mary Magdalene and Anana and the Goddess, but also

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<v Speaker 2>with math and science, and I just knew all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't explain how And then you know, it took

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<v Speaker 2>five years to kind of digest and create into a book.

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<v Speaker 2>It took only a year to write it, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was just so much in here. And then I was

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<v Speaker 2>almost like divinely letter. I know this sounds crazy, but

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<v Speaker 2>like divinely Letter guided to what I needed to research

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of put it in like human words. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just found things, and I found that I googled,

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<v Speaker 2>because I never had studied plasma in my life. I

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<v Speaker 2>googled plasma and intelligent and I saw that Robert Temple

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<v Speaker 2>was coming out with a book the next year called

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<v Speaker 2>a New Science Aha it. So as soon as that

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<v Speaker 2>came out, I read it, and that confirmed that I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't crazy, because I was like, he's saying the same things.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a similar experience where I remember my first

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with Navy engineer Savator Piis. He brought up that

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about gravity manipulation, that's already pretty far

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<v Speaker 1>out there.

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<v Speaker 3>And next thing I know, he's bringing up like have you.

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<v Speaker 1>Read Robert Temple and like this idea that plasma could

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<v Speaker 1>be conscious.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember at the time, this was two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Me thinking Okay, this guy is like out there, this

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<v Speaker 1>is too much, et cetera. And now I look back

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<v Speaker 1>and I go, oh, no, if anything, it's probably even

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<v Speaker 1>more than that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, for me, the thing that made me start taking

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<v Speaker 1>very seriously was understanding that plasma produces its own electromagnetic

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<v Speaker 1>fields and therefore can be self stabilized and can make

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<v Speaker 1>its own shapes like smokering can make it. Because then

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<v Speaker 1>it opens the door to this idea that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>plasma is maybe more than what we thought it was.

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<v Speaker 3>So who were your what what.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think is your most compelling research or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for people that are interested in plasma, who would you

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<v Speaker 1>tell them to check out or read?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? Well, I know with your audience, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>say saying really quick, just to bridge it from science

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<v Speaker 2>to metaphysics, because I do jump a little bit around

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<v Speaker 2>with you with you mentioning electromagnetism, so electro magnetic field

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<v Speaker 2>shape plasma and science even on larger levels, which some

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<v Speaker 2>people in science would not say is true. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the plasma universe model by Hannas Alfin,

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<v Speaker 2>you would find that it can do that and it

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<v Speaker 2>can check out scientifically. The point I'm trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>is who has the largest elect What is the largest

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<v Speaker 2>electromagnetic field of the human It is our heart. So

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<v Speaker 2>when we are connected with our heart energy, one would

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<v Speaker 2>maybe posit that you could harmonize with or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>create reality by molding this plasma with your consciousness. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's just some thing to think about, which is why

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<v Speaker 2>when we're in our hearts we can create reality a

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<v Speaker 2>lot easier than maybe when we're decoherent and angry and

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<v Speaker 2>not in our hearts. So that's kind of a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of my research and I connect those things. And two,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're interested in plasma, where would I start? I

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<v Speaker 2>would actually read a lot of Russian textbooks on plasma physics,

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<v Speaker 2>and in Israel in India because they actually had the

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<v Speaker 2>leading research that is not as suppressed as here. I

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<v Speaker 2>would read obviously my book A New Force, Plasma Consciousness

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<v Speaker 2>and the Muman Potential. I would read Eileen Mcusic's book

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<v Speaker 2>Tuning the human biofield. It talks about bioplasma and how

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of connects with our emotions and trauma. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I have so many books. A New Science of Heaven

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<v Speaker 2>by Robert Temple, I would read up on time crystals

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<v Speaker 2>and how mushrooms communicate, because how my celium communicate and

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<v Speaker 2>how viruses communicate and grow are actually the same as

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<v Speaker 2>how plasma communicates. I'm looking at my library, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many books. Let me just grab one or

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<v Speaker 2>two because it's right here.

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<v Speaker 4>So I have like a special session session that is

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<v Speaker 4>all what I've read about plasma.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just going to bring it to you really

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<v Speaker 2>quick and be crazy, but it'll be worth it because

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<v Speaker 2>this will help everyone because this is what I read. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>just a feel. So this is the Russian book Plasma

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<v Speaker 2>the Four State of Matter by D. A. Frank Kevin Netski,

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<v Speaker 2>and it kind of goes it explains it. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, ultra collegiate book, but it explains it

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<v Speaker 2>the way anyone can understand just the complexity of plasma

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<v Speaker 2>and science. And then I'm just looking for the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that this book on soft matter is great because in

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<v Speaker 2>the future we're actually going to be working more with

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<v Speaker 2>systems theory and plasma and organic material and soft matter

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<v Speaker 2>and technology. So that's good to learn about. And then

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<v Speaker 2>this is kind of weird. This is a channeled book.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the wooiest book I have. It's called Afterlife

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<v Speaker 2>Comments on paraphysical concepts, the New Physics, and this woman

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<v Speaker 2>supposedly channels Nicola Tesla, but it still is super interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I can the golden ratio there on the cover of Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then like you know, Nicola Tesla purple energy places.

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<v Speaker 2>Nicoloa Tesla worked with plasma. He called it radiant matter.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's also radiant energy, which is what I

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<v Speaker 2>believe is your plasma and consciousness working together. And he

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<v Speaker 2>spoke about something more magical than radiant matter, which was

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<v Speaker 2>what he was doing with radiant energy right before he died.

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<v Speaker 3>And then let's I want to broach on a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of these topics.

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<v Speaker 1>He brought you around a lot of physics topics that

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about and this, Yeah, a lot first I

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<v Speaker 1>think would be well, maybe radiant energy matter. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing that you think that there is a connection between

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<v Speaker 1>this plasma cosmology, plasma universe understanding of Nikola Tesla, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to elaborate on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, So when they first discovered plasma in like

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen seventy eight, Sir William Crooks named it radiant matter.

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<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden, this is like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is all in my book in chapter two. It connects

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<v Speaker 2>ether and plasma together all of a sudden, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they call it. They come up with this thing called

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<v Speaker 2>the lou and Sir William Crooks talked about how this

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<v Speaker 2>radiant matter had paranormal properties. He addressed the British Royal

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<v Speaker 2>Society about that and X rays and how there was

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<v Speaker 2>something beyond science he couldn't explain that scientists were scared of,

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<v Speaker 2>and he told them, please research this. There's something here.

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<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden they come up with

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<v Speaker 2>luminiferous ether, and then how plasma is this? But then

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<v Speaker 2>they disprove it with the Michelson Morley experiment, which they

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<v Speaker 2>were testing the static ether, and all of us know

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<v Speaker 2>that ether is not static, so the test was wrong

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<v Speaker 2>and defunct and stupid anyway, and I go into it

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<v Speaker 2>in my book, and then all of a sudden we

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<v Speaker 2>forget all about this, and then Tesla's working with radiant matter. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen twenty eight, Irving langmir the for state of

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<v Speaker 2>matter plasma after blood plasma, because it has the same

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<v Speaker 2>exact behaviors. And now we have after the FBI has

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<v Speaker 2>created we have plasma, but all of its mystical properties

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<v Speaker 2>were strict, and now we just have this plasma that

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<v Speaker 2>no one learns about in school, and it goes underground

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<v Speaker 2>and is tested in the military for like the last

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<v Speaker 2>hundred years, but it makes up ninety nine point nine

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<v Speaker 2>percent of visible matter. Yet we do not learn about

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<v Speaker 2>it in school. Why we learned about particles which may

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<v Speaker 2>or may not even exist, because really everything's made up

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<v Speaker 2>of fields and plasma. So anyway, that's kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>weird tale of the natural suppression of plasma, and it

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<v Speaker 2>actually has some fascinating links with the divine feminine being

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<v Speaker 2>suppressed and magic and weird stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a lot of questions and all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>So one thing I want to bring up though, radiant

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<v Speaker 1>matter radiant energy. Yeah, a lot of people look back

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<v Speaker 1>at that and they think, oh, this was just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen hundreds mumbo jumbo someone's making up. But really what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on is we just didn't have the terminology

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<v Speaker 1>from the physics and scientific perspective to describe what.

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<v Speaker 3>The effector we're seeing. But I do think it's interesting

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<v Speaker 3>that was connected to X rays.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, X rays in that in that spectrum are one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that get released when you have like

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<v Speaker 3>So when we're dealing with plasma, X rays are really common. Actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, idea of like radiant energy like this energy that

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<v Speaker 1>comes from nowhere, ye be absurd, but it got proven

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eleven with the dynamic Casimir effect that we

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<v Speaker 1>can actually make light appear from nothingness, from just empty space.

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<v Speaker 3>So that kind of if that what if that is

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<v Speaker 3>radiant energy?

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<v Speaker 1>And that was just Nikola Tesla or someone else trying

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<v Speaker 1>to explain you know, what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that makes sense? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And there I don't know if you brought up there's

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<v Speaker 2>a company that named Kasmir that's actually doing some very

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<v Speaker 2>interesting stuff. Have you looked them up?

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<v Speaker 4>The City Whites company have to look at I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>Like No, these are like literal.

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<v Speaker 1>Like former NASA engineers and people that have like defense

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<v Speaker 3>So these concepts are absolutely real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people bring up and this is and if you

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<v Speaker 2>because I never answer the questions people ask me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to ask answer. Is I connect the radiant

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<v Speaker 2>energy which most people don't with actual with this plasma,

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<v Speaker 2>this finer plasma, and our consciousness and what we create

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<v Speaker 2>out of that, out of literally creating with this ery,

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<v Speaker 2>with this radiant matter in our consciousness is radiant energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Some could call it God energy. I call it emergent energy,

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<v Speaker 2>but some can call it dark energy, which expands the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is just simple pattern recognition. And maybe people

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<v Speaker 2>don't really give a fuck because I think that you

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<v Speaker 2>know more about it, it's pages like fifty forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>with like spectrals, and yeah, I go all into those

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, interesting, I didn't know about him. I'll have to

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<v Speaker 3>look him up later.

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<v Speaker 2>I love him deep.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever looked at a company called Brilliant Light

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<v Speaker 3>Power before? You may want to check into them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're more I mean, not so much like they don't

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<v Speaker 1>But they've basically made a little fusion reactors releasing X

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<v Speaker 1>rays and they're trying to harness the X rays as energy,

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<v Speaker 3>But I've been talking to their CEO, guy named.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot up the top of my head'll come to

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<v Speaker 1>me in a second, but mis Randall Mills and and

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<v Speaker 1>and then Breakthrough Energy. So the thas why I bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up is that you know, assuming that you're correct,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think you are about some of this plasma

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<v Speaker 1>and my theories as well is that people have been

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<v Speaker 1>working on this and they've they've figured out that's the

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<v Speaker 1>in businesses, and the government's exploiting it I think for

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<v Speaker 1>military purposes. Oh yeah, now, is that why you spoke

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<v Speaker 1>to Nick Cook? How did you get in touch with him?

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<v Speaker 1>With the Yeah, zero point energy. Yeah, that conversation is

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so very interesting story. So basically really quick with

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on right now. And so the government's known

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<v Speaker 2>about this for one hundred years, right and now all

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<v Speaker 2>these people are coming out with it. That is because

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<v Speaker 2>and I have insider information about this, and I'm fine

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<v Speaker 2>saying it. They've been told and given permission by the

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<v Speaker 2>government to come out with it. These people have had

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<v Speaker 2>these technologies forever and they've in the past have been

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<v Speaker 2>you know, suppressed.

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<v Speaker 3>Now be.

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<v Speaker 2>So many people know about it, and it's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>a safer time for people where it wasn't ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will also say with that, as cool as all,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the real secret hidden in plain sight. And

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<v Speaker 2>this goes back to secret society. It's as crazy as

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds, is that, yes, we can use technology and

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<v Speaker 2>tools for this, but the beautifulest gift of all is

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<v Speaker 2>that we can use it with our own consciousness. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I teach, which is kind of a fresh perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can get into that after. I will go

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<v Speaker 2>back to your question now, Nick Cook, And this goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to what I was saying with my unique perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>I got invited to a secret plasma conference. Robert Temple

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<v Speaker 2>was there. Nick Cook was there an Exeter in England

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<v Speaker 2>over the summer in twenty twenty five, and we were

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<v Speaker 2>all brought together, like twenty of us to present on plasma.

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<v Speaker 2>Jude Curvin was there, Bernard Carr was there, the black

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<v Speaker 2>hole mathematician or astrophysicist, and I basically was there presenting

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<v Speaker 2>on my unique theories in plasma. And we all made

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<v Speaker 2>friends and met there. And Nick was there discussing his

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<v Speaker 2>interface theory that he kind of was inspired by Donald Hoffman,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, in plasma and talking about the orbs and

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<v Speaker 2>what the plasmoids might be as far as interface theory goes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I met.

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<v Speaker 1>Him there, So that's how you got in touch with him. Wow, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you were at a secret plasma conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I would. I really, I'm just being

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<v Speaker 2>funny like secret, but it was just close to the

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, it's definitely a secret plasma conference.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we're gonna refer to it as.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah and this, and it got exposed on the Hard

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<v Speaker 1>Shrews podcast right here exclusive boom just like that yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty amazing that that you had, that you got

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<v Speaker 3>That you I do want to explore this aspect.

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<v Speaker 1>Of consciousness connected to it, but I want to build

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<v Speaker 3>So you believe in the idea of the ether, then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, yeah, the like our you know, Aristotle

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<v Speaker 2>spoke about quintessence and Plato and goes beyond before that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, yeah, And I guess this is the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why I asked is because that would seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>the explanation for when you say there's this other version

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<v Speaker 1>of plasma that's like, I don't know if you said

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<v Speaker 1>it was less dense or like, you know, yeah, less dense,

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<v Speaker 1>And that can explain it because you know, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>medium yea, And we now know, you know, the ether

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<v Speaker 1>was not in vogue and hasn't been in vogue for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, but we now know that there is this

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<v Speaker 1>virtual particle anti particle pairs that are constantly annihilated that

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<v Speaker 3>That's all around us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things I've learned researching the science physics

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<v Speaker 3>is they keep changing the names of things changed plasmoids

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<v Speaker 3>into field reverse configuration. I don't know if you know this.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, yeah, that's like what they're using for fusion.

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<v Speaker 1>They just don't say plasma as they go field reverse configuration.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the middle of it is literally a plasmoid.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, yeah, ball, lightning, you were speaking about I

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<v Speaker 2>saw you speak about that.

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<v Speaker 3>So they do.

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<v Speaker 1>They change the names of all these things all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why you look back and you go, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well wait, so there really is this medium and what

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<v Speaker 3>Like ye, they say, okay, well this.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero point energy. That means that there's these electromagnetic.

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<v Speaker 3>Fields everywhere in the universe even when there's no matter

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<v Speaker 3>or energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is a big contradiction. How can that be true?

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<v Speaker 1>What we're told is equals mc squared? So yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no mass, yes, where the field's coming from, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not mass.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the Higgs field gives us mass. But my

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<v Speaker 2>thing is I call it. This is way into my theory,

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<v Speaker 2>but I call it four D plasma. You can call

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<v Speaker 2>it the collective unconscious, you can call it what was

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<v Speaker 2>beyond the Higgs field. But the Higgs field is like

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<v Speaker 2>a gateway where this you know, fourth dimensional field, which

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<v Speaker 2>is this is going to sound a lot, but like

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<v Speaker 2>in between us and God or us and our higher

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<v Speaker 2>selves whatever you want to call like three D five D,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't give a shit. But there's this bridge layer.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this middle layer that is an mythology, every religion,

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<v Speaker 2>every tradition ever, the subconscious, even in Carl Jung and

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<v Speaker 2>the collective unconscious, and there's this layer that feeds into

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<v Speaker 2>layer is simply our thoughts and emotions that are working

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<v Speaker 2>with this non physical plasma that we can call an ether,

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<v Speaker 2>and that all connects it back to consciousness and how

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<v Speaker 2>we can co create reality. We don't create reality, We're

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<v Speaker 2>not God, we don't control it, but we co create

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<v Speaker 2>it with our expanded selves. And that's where I get

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<v Speaker 2>into the philosophy and lose some people, but it really

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't really lose me. I think that the spiritual

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<v Speaker 1>side of it is more of like someone's personal belief

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<v Speaker 1>system as opposed to the physical side of You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you learn that magic is actually real, something like

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<v Speaker 1>the entanglement, Yeah, and you start to say, well, your

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<v Speaker 3>It can be different for different people, you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>the same way with religions.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thinking of it, though. Apply what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>is a framework to any belief system. Everything is a story.

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<v Speaker 2>Science is a story. Reality is alive. Science doesn't discover things.

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<v Speaker 2>Things are being created, and we're we're growing and evolving.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why all these new things are happening.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, let me ask you, let me bring up

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<v Speaker 1>another point, and I want to talk more about this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of the ether. Yes, you're probably not familiar, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you are any more research. There's a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>Ferris Williams. Have you ever heard of him before?

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<v Speaker 2>No, tell me more about them.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the guy that corrected the nuclear yield calculations

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<v Speaker 1>back the fifties or the sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>But he was a Navy.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy and he decided to do equals mc squared on

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<v Speaker 1>our nuclear weapons and he realized the yields should be

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent higher than what they've got documented on paper. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you would say, okay, well, why would this cause a big,

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<v Speaker 1>big scene?

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<v Speaker 3>Well will cause a big scene because is we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Storing these things somewhere, and if one were to accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>go off, it's gonna be fifty percent higher than what

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<v Speaker 1>we expect is already a thermonuclear deatonation. But I think

426
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<v Speaker 1>the real underlining subtlety of it is do we understand

427
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<v Speaker 1>physics correctly?

428
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<v Speaker 3>Because it turns out Ferris Williams was right.

429
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<v Speaker 1>They had a tribunal with like the top Navy scientists

430
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<v Speaker 1>and top brass and they ended up agreeing with him

431
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<v Speaker 1>in his calculation the way, So this implies that he

432
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<v Speaker 1>was looking at physics a different way, and in fact

433
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<v Speaker 1>he attested that after this, Yeah, he no longer he

434
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<v Speaker 1>thought that all physics might be fundamentally wrong. There might

435
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<v Speaker 1>be a fundamental flo How could all of these scientists

436
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<v Speaker 1>get the math wrong when all use a calculator and

437
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<v Speaker 1>correct them. And I think that's a very interesting case

438
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<v Speaker 1>because whatever happened to that is technically classified.

439
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<v Speaker 3>We don't really know from the public perspective. Figure it

440
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<v Speaker 3>out some sid of physics.

441
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<v Speaker 2>Now.

442
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<v Speaker 1>The reason why I bring this up, but he came

443
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<v Speaker 1>up with his own theory, unification theory, the dynamic theory,

444
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<v Speaker 1>which is in my opinion, brings the ether back in

445
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<v Speaker 1>a way where he doesn't say it directly, Okay. Point

446
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<v Speaker 1>is he says, there's five equations that you have to

447
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<v Speaker 1>solve in order to figure out the thermodynamic situation of

448
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<v Speaker 1>a system. And that's like the energy level, Yeah, engine pressure,

449
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<v Speaker 1>and then the three vectors your three dimensions.

450
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<v Speaker 3>So essentially, if you.

451
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<v Speaker 1>Were to boil it down, you would say three spatial

452
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<v Speaker 1>dimensions up, down, left, right, back and forward. You would

453
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<v Speaker 1>say you have your time dimension, which is your pressure,

454
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<v Speaker 1>and then your last one is your energy equation.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love it because that's four D to me

456
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<v Speaker 2>is time at circular time, and five d's energy, which

457
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<v Speaker 2>is outside of time completely. That's the way I see

458
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<v Speaker 2>it in my mind.

459
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<v Speaker 3>And five D is the ether.

460
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<v Speaker 1>Because now your system could either be this closed system

461
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<v Speaker 1>that you if you want to draw your boundaries, or

462
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<v Speaker 1>you could say, you know what your system.

463
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<v Speaker 3>Is the whole universe. Yes, and he.

464
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<v Speaker 1>Said, he said, if I need five equations, yeah, solve this.

465
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<v Speaker 1>There must be five dimensions.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Well say about this.

467
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I gave you a little thing.

468
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<v Speaker 1>But the reason why I brought that up, yes, I

469
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<v Speaker 1>would ask you do you think, because you connect plasma

470
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<v Speaker 1>and all this to spirituality and consciousness, do you think

471
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<v Speaker 1>consciousness is a local.

472
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<v Speaker 3>Phenomenon or a non local phenomenon.

473
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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that our consciousness like actually resides in

474
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<v Speaker 1>our body or do you think our consciousness is coming

475
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<v Speaker 1>from somewhere else?

476
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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, there's so much to say here. Okay,

477
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<v Speaker 2>I'll go back to the five thing moment. I believe

478
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<v Speaker 2>that our consciousness is more of a system. So I

479
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<v Speaker 2>believe that there's awareness in this fifth dimensional space. I

480
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<v Speaker 2>call it awareness, you can call it fifth dimensional consciousness.

481
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<v Speaker 2>It is our expanded consciousness, our higher self. You know

482
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<v Speaker 2>that almost is like a pearl that can see the

483
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<v Speaker 2>rays of every timeline we're on in this third dimension. Right,

484
00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:52.440
<v Speaker 2>if every choice we make fractals off into a choice,

485
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<v Speaker 2>it also can see this fourth dimensional space where our

486
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<v Speaker 2>thoughts and emotions are the acotic realm. So you know,

487
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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it knows better than us, right, our gut knows

488
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<v Speaker 2>better than our survival, consciousness, our logic, Which is why

489
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<v Speaker 2>when we're in a state of play, or in the

490
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<v Speaker 2>shower or on a road trip, we get those grand

491
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<v Speaker 2>ideas because we're not in logic, because logic can only create.

492
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<v Speaker 2>You know, what's happening right now when we open it

493
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<v Speaker 2>up to receiving from the more, you know, higher spaces.

494
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<v Speaker 2>That's when we get things that actually change the world.

495
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<v Speaker 2>But I believe that consciousness is more of a multi

496
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<v Speaker 2>dimensional perspective. So you know, if I'm in third dimensional

497
00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:31.400
<v Speaker 2>consciousness in my framework, I'm in survival mode. I'm in logic.

498
00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:34.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, feedbacking with the plasma of reality, of

499
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<v Speaker 2>this material reality. If I'm in fourth dimensional consciousness as

500
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<v Speaker 2>a system perspective, and I'm still in third dimensional physical matter,

501
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I maybe feedbacking with thoughts and emotions or trauma, you know,

502
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<v Speaker 2>or working through something in that layer. And then if

503
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<v Speaker 2>I'm in fifth dimensional consciousness or awareness or you know,

504
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<v Speaker 2>just straight up being, and I can be like that

505
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<v Speaker 2>now in my body, I'm in the present, I'm you know,

506
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<v Speaker 2>I'm in flow, which I can get in a lot.

507
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not thinking about that guy hasn't texted me back,

508
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:04.119
<v Speaker 2>like you know, stuff like that, which we So we

509
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.960
<v Speaker 2>can exist in all of those and it's the really

510
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<v Speaker 2>the multi dimensional human and consciousness is just a relationship

511
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<v Speaker 2>that we're in with plasma in these different states. That's

512
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<v Speaker 2>what I think.

513
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<v Speaker 1>So my interpretation of that is that you would say

514
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<v Speaker 1>it's not local because if you're able to information from

515
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<v Speaker 1>some external thing. There at least is a non local

516
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<v Speaker 1>connection to it important.

517
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<v Speaker 2>Mhm, it's non local, yes.

518
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think that's a that's a big revelation.

519
00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:39.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's what Tesla thought. I think I think

520
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<v Speaker 1>he would have looked at as our bodies as receivers

521
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<v Speaker 1>of information and that that's, to me, is a huge

522
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<v Speaker 1>profound thing.

523
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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

524
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<v Speaker 1>Even Sabine Haustenfelder, she's a famous physicist, was saying the

525
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<v Speaker 1>other day that.

526
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<v Speaker 2>I was looking for up the other day.

527
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<v Speaker 1>She's interesting, but you have to keep in mind that

528
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of these physicists, they come from a different world,

529
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<v Speaker 1>you know, than and especially really the older physicists. The

530
00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:04.079
<v Speaker 1>world that they came from is not the same world

531
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<v Speaker 1>that we live in today anymore.

532
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<v Speaker 2>She is multiverse. But that's okay. I still like some

533
00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:10.119
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff she says.

534
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<v Speaker 3>M hm, it was Max Plank.

535
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<v Speaker 1>I think that said that, you know then paraphrasing, but

536
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<v Speaker 1>that physics, you know, science advances.

537
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<v Speaker 3>One funeral at a time.

538
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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why these conversations are important is that

539
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<v Speaker 1>it's the next generation that will come in with the

540
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<v Speaker 1>new ideas that will up end the old the previous

541
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<v Speaker 1>generation and what their thoughts were the non local consciousness

542
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<v Speaker 1>thing I think feeds directly into this idea of ether,

543
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<v Speaker 1>and you start to see that you really are building

544
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<v Speaker 1>a kind of a unified theory about how all of

545
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<v Speaker 1>these things are connected. It was to be in Hospit

546
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<v Speaker 1>Teller's video yesterday it said that can any any unified

547
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:53.079
<v Speaker 1>theory must include consciousness and be able to explain consciousness. Yes,

548
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<v Speaker 1>that's tough ass because consciousness is like basically like magic

549
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<v Speaker 1>for us. So my thought would be that it must

550
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<v Speaker 1>be connected to quantum entanglement. Would you say, well, I mean,

551
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<v Speaker 1>how do you connect these ideas together. Do you think

552
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 1>that they're the same thing, or do that they might

553
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<v Speaker 1>be connected.

554
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<v Speaker 3>To some degree?

555
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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I would say it's a little bit within and

556
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<v Speaker 2>without quantum. If that makes sense, I would say it

557
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:19.480
<v Speaker 2>veers more into what I call quintessence or science that

558
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:22.920
<v Speaker 2>hasn't been created yet, which is more like a holistic science.

559
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.079
<v Speaker 2>It is bringing all the fields together to work more

560
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:29.519
<v Speaker 2>with pattern recognition than just pure science. But I believe

561
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:34.319
<v Speaker 2>science is wonderful, and I believe that quantum entanglement explains

562
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.799
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things in their own lens. But I

563
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:39.680
<v Speaker 2>think there's more I don't know if there's even a

564
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 2>language for it. But there's something beyond all of that

565
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 2>that explains what consciousness is in the realm. But yes,

566
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I love you know, you know, like superposition, quantum, entanglement.

567
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:56.240
<v Speaker 2>I think those things are great shadows to explain what

568
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.480
<v Speaker 2>is happening. But I think there's more of like a feeling, emotion,

569
00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.920
<v Speaker 2>tangent ability, quotion that we miss. But yeah, I love

570
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<v Speaker 2>what you said.

571
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, can you explain to me the you mentioned earlier,

572
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<v Speaker 3>the divine feminine? This is the second time I've heard

573
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<v Speaker 3>this mention.

574
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<v Speaker 1>I think the last one was uh, I think it

575
00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:14.799
<v Speaker 1>was with the Cosmic summit when I when I heard

576
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>this mention the first time, How does the divine first

577
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<v Speaker 1>of all, maybe explain to me what the divine feminine

578
00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:20.200
<v Speaker 1>is or from a?

579
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.000
<v Speaker 3>And then how does this connect the plasma?

580
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so loaded question. I have like two hundred pages

581
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.400
<v Speaker 2>on this in my book. But there's a there is

582
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:34.119
<v Speaker 2>a reason that every secret society that Rosa Cruscians, the Masons,

583
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>like they Jewish mysticism, like there is this secret goddess

584
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>that is woven within everything. Even before Christianity, the Ashira

585
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:44.440
<v Speaker 2>polls which were torn down when God had a wife

586
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>that all of a sudden disappeared. When you know Christianity

587
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 2>was formed. There is this feminine substance to counteract the

588
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:56.359
<v Speaker 2>masculine consciousness, which is plasma, which is now you know

589
00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 2>our current name for it. In one hundred years maybe

590
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:01.240
<v Speaker 2>it will be something else else. But when you name

591
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>something like plasma and Greek means to mold, right, and

592
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>it also plasja, plas dash ma eth dash her they're

593
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>both feminine, feminine names, right, there's a lot with language

594
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:19.119
<v Speaker 2>there and in the in these traditions they worshiped isis Anana, Mary, Magdalene,

595
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 2>the rose. When you put plat plug plasma into a

596
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.680
<v Speaker 2>universe model, what do you get? A rose looking galaxy

597
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:27.119
<v Speaker 2>or a ballerina skirt. You could look it up on

598
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:30.759
<v Speaker 2>I think plasma universe dot com or something. But basically,

599
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:35.079
<v Speaker 2>the divine feminine is something within every man, woman, person.

600
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:40.359
<v Speaker 2>It is feminine traits of receptivity, of surrender. It is

601
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.200
<v Speaker 2>your It is every person's magic power. It is learning

602
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:49.000
<v Speaker 2>to receive this higher consciousness but also how to softly

603
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:52.960
<v Speaker 2>put it out. You know, it is subtle energy. It

604
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:55.519
<v Speaker 2>is the mirror. So if if this was a worldI

605
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.920
<v Speaker 2>just of consciousness, we would all be talking to each other.

606
00:29:58.039 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Right.

607
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Consciousness needs a mirror to experience itself. It needs intelligent

608
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:05.880
<v Speaker 2>clay to mold reality, to create. It is our creative

609
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:08.839
<v Speaker 2>dance partner in life, and we've forgotten all about it.

610
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.039
<v Speaker 2>And yes, know thyself is so important, but we have

611
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:14.920
<v Speaker 2>to also know this secret substance that we're working with

612
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>or else we're just alone. And that is why we

613
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.680
<v Speaker 2>all feel alone, like something is missing within us. Every

614
00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 2>human on earth is searching in material things outside of ourselves. Like,

615
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.160
<v Speaker 2>no matter what scientists you are, the problem we all

616
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>have is really within relationships, right, But the most beautiful

617
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:34.920
<v Speaker 2>relationship is with our cosmic mother. It is with plasma.

618
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<v Speaker 2>It is you know, this magic and mother's milk within us.

619
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<v Speaker 2>And when we right now in science, we're brushing up

620
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.039
<v Speaker 2>against this, right. So it's I think a really beautiful

621
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:47.200
<v Speaker 2>time to kind of come back to the wholeness of

622
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<v Speaker 2>who we are.

623
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot of themes of duality in that.

624
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>And there's about duality too, Yeah, I'll speak.

625
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:58.599
<v Speaker 3>It's connected to electromagnetisms.

626
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<v Speaker 1>They are positive and minus and I could see how

627
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that could even feed into consciousness.

628
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:09.079
<v Speaker 3>Or to you know, male versus female themes as well.

629
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and beyond that there is So I'm because I'm

630
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 2>not like a feminist, I'm, you know, a humanist, but

631
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm all about neutrality. So in this fifth dimensional space

632
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.839
<v Speaker 2>beyond this right, because the divine feminine is the fourth

633
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:24.440
<v Speaker 2>dimensional space. It is suppressed plasma. It is Collie, the

634
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:28.799
<v Speaker 2>goddess of creation and destruction. This fifth dimensional space is

635
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>a space of the divine child. It is of neutrality.

636
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 2>This is the space we're really getting towards. But you

637
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>need the mother and the father to get to that space.

638
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 2>You can't just go from three D to enlightenment, right,

639
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>You have to go through the darkness. And this is

640
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:43.480
<v Speaker 2>in every secret tradition too, that they knew this. You

641
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:45.519
<v Speaker 2>have to go to the descent to ascent. You have

642
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 2>to bend your knees to jump up. So this space

643
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:50.480
<v Speaker 2>that I think we're getting into is actually more the

644
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:53.160
<v Speaker 2>age of the divine child. It is the age of

645
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:57.559
<v Speaker 2>neutrality and of nondualism and beyond dualism and the rainbow

646
00:31:57.880 --> 00:31:59.680
<v Speaker 2>serpent and all those things.

647
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:01.359
<v Speaker 3>Mody Dave would really like you.

648
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 1>He loves the whole divine feminine and masculine and producing

649
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the child. There was like his analogy that he said

650
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:08.079
<v Speaker 1>on Tim Poole when I.

651
00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Brought him on there.

652
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Really he was freaking people out at the time. But

653
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:13.359
<v Speaker 1>now maybe it's a little bit more accepted.

654
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 2>I can talk about it in terms too.

655
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.079
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and you know this, Actually this makes sense

656
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:24.720
<v Speaker 1>to me from a holographic universe perspective because I look

657
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:28.039
<v Speaker 1>at this universe as if I were to say, take

658
00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:31.279
<v Speaker 1>away all this matter that you see, which isn't that

659
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 1>much actually if you a should do the math, like

660
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>everything is empty. What we're luck with is this substance

661
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>that is we called nothing but energy and matter can

662
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:44.839
<v Speaker 1>appear from it out of nowhere.

663
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:47.079
<v Speaker 3>And if something's appearing.

664
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:48.759
<v Speaker 1>From out of nowhere, then I immediately am going to

665
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>evoke an extra dimension. Like if I were to look

666
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:53.799
<v Speaker 1>down on that, I could see what's really going on.

667
00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:55.799
<v Speaker 1>From the extra dimension, I can see that, oh, this

668
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:58.799
<v Speaker 1>is interacting from over here, but I can't see that.

669
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.279
<v Speaker 3>From within that level of mention.

670
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Ye, this opens up the idea now from our perspective

671
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 1>of really just magic being possible, like things could materialize,

672
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>things could just yeah, just we could even make like

673
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, star trek replicator type situation in the future where.

674
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:18.039
<v Speaker 3>We build something from the ground up, straight from the scratch.

675
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

676
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Really, I think the there's a connection between the plasma

677
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 1>universe model and the electric universe model, which are very

678
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>similar because plasma produces electromagnetic fields. So yeah, I don't

679
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:33.559
<v Speaker 1>really even know how they're necessarily different. So if you

680
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>hear people say like, oh, the universe of ninety eight

681
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>percent plasma or whatever, they're usually they're talking about the

682
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>same kind of concept, that is, electromagnetic forces can probably

683
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>explain like everything, or at least the vast majority of

684
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 1>stuff that we see out there.

685
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.880
<v Speaker 3>What do you think about UFOs?

686
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love that you asked this. I have so

687
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 2>much on this. I think maybe you'll like this, maybe

688
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.880
<v Speaker 2>you won't, who knows. So back to the nuclear stuff plasma, right,

689
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.960
<v Speaker 2>these plasmoids, just like plasma, is a vehicle for consciousness.

690
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.280
<v Speaker 2>So plasma once again, is sentient, it is receptive. Consciousness

691
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 2>can imprint on it just like a sperm and an egg, right,

692
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:16.400
<v Speaker 2>but it is not conscious itself, but it can hold consciousness.

693
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:20.079
<v Speaker 2>So when plasma has certain properties of self organization, like

694
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:23.280
<v Speaker 2>in dusty complex plasma and this, you know potential, but

695
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:27.280
<v Speaker 2>they're using nuclear stuff. It can hold memory, yes, but

696
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.639
<v Speaker 2>it can also at some point hold consciousness. So these

697
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:36.880
<v Speaker 2>plasmoids in the sky might be holding a consciousness, which

698
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 2>are most of the UFOs are made of plasma. They

699
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:43.119
<v Speaker 2>might be consciousness remote viewing us from another world. They

700
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.360
<v Speaker 2>might be our higher selves coming down to just check

701
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 2>on us. I believe that the real disclosure is that

702
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 2>it's coming from inside of us, from our higher selves.

703
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:54.880
<v Speaker 2>So these because we would have figured it at the

704
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:57.719
<v Speaker 2>outbine now otherwise it has been going on for like ever.

705
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 2>These orbs are just trying to tell us, hey, look

706
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 2>what we're doing with plasma. We use it with our consciousness.

707
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:06.440
<v Speaker 2>We're using it to visit you. You know, it's like

708
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>the looking glass. You can do this too. They're trying

709
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.440
<v Speaker 2>to remind us of our own inner power. It is

710
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:15.199
<v Speaker 2>that simple. And when you take away the trauma and like,

711
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, the abductions and the negative stories about it.

712
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Because I've I've had horrible experiences with seeing scary things.

713
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not discounting any of those, but I've also been

714
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.079
<v Speaker 2>through a lot of trauma and we all have. When

715
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:29.840
<v Speaker 2>you start healing your own psyche and you experience these

716
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 2>same things in a positive way. Most people, I think

717
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:36.199
<v Speaker 2>will agree that these things are just trying to tell

718
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:39.639
<v Speaker 2>us messages to evolve us, and we need to listen

719
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:42.559
<v Speaker 2>to our in ourselves. So yeah, there's some That's what

720
00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 2>I think most of the UFOs are is actually these

721
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.159
<v Speaker 2>beings viewing us. And then yes, maybe there is some

722
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.119
<v Speaker 2>sinister thing where like you know, the government are you know,

723
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:53.000
<v Speaker 2>bad people have taken these plasmas and you know, maybe

724
00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.800
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to do some you know, brain programs and

725
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:58.440
<v Speaker 2>see how people are interacting with them. They're trying to

726
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:02.440
<v Speaker 2>hijack what's naturally happening. But if you're tuned in your body,

727
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:05.320
<v Speaker 2>you can tell the organic from the inorganic experience. In

728
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:07.360
<v Speaker 2>my opinion, that's what I think.

729
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Let me play a really cool video I want to

730
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>play here, so if people are just listening, they can

731
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:16.519
<v Speaker 1>come check and watch on this on the YouTube channel.

732
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>But it's called I just call it Plasma in Space.

733
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:21.280
<v Speaker 3>This is a video. I'm gonna mute it.

734
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>It's in Russian anyway, they can't hear. That's why I

735
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>put sound over it. Yeah, yeah, this is this is

736
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:30.320
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite videos. It's in Russian. It's got

737
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>English subtitles, but it shows dusty plasma in zero G.

738
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:36.639
<v Speaker 1>So that's what you're looking at here, and you can

739
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:40.719
<v Speaker 1>see self organizational properties of it immediately. I mean almost

740
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>looks like a little squid with these tendrils coming out

741
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:47.559
<v Speaker 1>of it. And so they started experimenting with plasma in

742
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>space and you start to see all of these phenomenon

743
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:55.159
<v Speaker 1>that we recognize. First just the self organizational properties of it.

744
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:57.360
<v Speaker 1>And then here in a little bit you'll start to

745
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.199
<v Speaker 1>see that what they did was suddenly like a void.

746
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:03.199
<v Speaker 1>It begins to form when they didn't expect it, which

747
00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:09.039
<v Speaker 1>would represent like a black hole in galactic astronomy. And

748
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:12.559
<v Speaker 1>then in addition to that, you'll also see and so

749
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:15.239
<v Speaker 1>you see this superstructure form. Is what you're seeing right here,

750
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>is these superstructures begin to form, or you see this

751
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:21.079
<v Speaker 1>organization that you wouldn't normally expect. You see black holes form,

752
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.079
<v Speaker 1>you will see and so there's the black hole that

753
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 1>you can just see, like there's this void just forms

754
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:29.679
<v Speaker 1>and this is all just an electrostatic electromagnetic force causing this.

755
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look how clear that void is right there.

756
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:34.679
<v Speaker 3>It's just weird. You can see the flow entirely around it.

757
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Every forest has a void.

758
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, every towrust has a void.

759
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:43.199
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And then you'll also see it can explain galactic formation.

760
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:47.360
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned dark energy, Well, dark matter is another.

761
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:47.960
<v Speaker 3>One of those things.

762
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>And even though the Higgs field explains some something that

763
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't explain everything about mass, and so here you can

764
00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>see this is actually just small scale dusty plasmas looks

765
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.559
<v Speaker 1>just like a galaxy. And the thing about galaxy formation,

766
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:02.559
<v Speaker 1>they say, well, the galaxy the stars at the edges

767
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>of the galaxies are moving too fast. They should be

768
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:06.760
<v Speaker 1>they're moving too slow.

769
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:07.239
<v Speaker 3>They should be.

770
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Moving faster relative to the ones of the center. Uh

771
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.840
<v Speaker 1>huh uh and so uh and so what you see

772
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 1>here is this explains why is that it's really just

773
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:21.119
<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic forces spinning around the center point which allows those

774
00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:24.760
<v Speaker 1>stars to move so quickly at the edges. So that

775
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:27.639
<v Speaker 1>one video that I just thought was really neat when

776
00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:36.039
<v Speaker 1>it comes to how plasma kind of works in general plasma.

777
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>The other thing I want to show, I think if

778
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 1>I have I have.

779
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Another video while you're looking for this link. Plat when

780
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.280
<v Speaker 2>people meditate and they see themselves as crystal or crystal

781
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:50.159
<v Speaker 2>beans or like shining skin. The shining that that's I mean,

782
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:52.719
<v Speaker 2>we're literally on some level made of crystal, right, So

783
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:56.000
<v Speaker 2>it's the plasma crystal thing is interesting. Yeah.

784
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:56.719
<v Speaker 3>The other.

785
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>The other video I was going to show is this

786
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>one from I have to use a news nation link.

787
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.679
<v Speaker 3>It looks like from Congressman Burliston.

788
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you had seen the video of

789
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.800
<v Speaker 1>this UFO that was like here, I think I have

790
00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 1>got it.

791
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:15.880
<v Speaker 3>We'll use this readily. Here we go.

792
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Plasma can shape shift to have you looked into the

793
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Jillian model.

794
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:25.119
<v Speaker 3>I doesn't sound familiar, but this I kind of have.

795
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of spoiled it here. But so my

796
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>thought is this is plasma. But I want to know

797
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 1>what your thought is. This is a video the Congressman

798
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>bur Liston showed at one of those UFO hearings, not

799
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.079
<v Speaker 1>even that long ago, a couple of months ago. So

800
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>here we are, there's an object. This object suddenly any

801
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:48.039
<v Speaker 1>second now mm hmm, it's gonna get hit by something.

802
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:50.719
<v Speaker 1>So we got his object flow into this sky. We

803
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:53.679
<v Speaker 1>have some kind of flear camera that's staring at it.

804
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:56.679
<v Speaker 3>This must be the longer extended version of it, so.

805
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Watching it also it gets hit it gets hit and

806
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:02.639
<v Speaker 1>you see these little things I'm off of. It keeps

807
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>going and so you know, de Barbers tried to say

808
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.039
<v Speaker 1>that this is like parallax or something, but I mean,

809
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 1>look at what you're I mean, clearly that's moving across.

810
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:15.480
<v Speaker 2>No less plasma, think of flubber, think of like neuturistic technology. Yeah,

811
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:17.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean it all is sentient, holds memory so it

812
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>can shape shift, and magnetic recombination. It has a lot

813
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:22.800
<v Speaker 2>of characteristics in plasma.

814
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

815
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>So for me, the part it gets hit, let's just

816
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:28.639
<v Speaker 1>go show the part where it gets hit right here. Yeah,

817
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>to me, this had to be pleasant because if this

818
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>was like a solid object, this should just follow the

819
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:35.159
<v Speaker 1>ground like this should immediately hit the water right there.

820
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Instead just keeps floating and even the other pieces that

821
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.559
<v Speaker 1>break off keep floating. People dress this as a balloon

822
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:43.880
<v Speaker 1>or something like. No, to me, that shows the self

823
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:44.679
<v Speaker 1>organizational prices.

824
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 3>What are your thoughts on that? Butvie, have you ever

825
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:46.519
<v Speaker 3>seen that before?

826
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>No?

827
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't think so maybe I have.

828
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:49.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

829
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.159
<v Speaker 2>I have the worst memory, but speaking of memory and plasma,

830
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.519
<v Speaker 2>I have the worst one. But funny enough with that,

831
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:56.400
<v Speaker 2>if you look up the Julium model. I think you

832
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.079
<v Speaker 2>will love this j E L L I U M.

833
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 2>Lane google it right really quick. So one wonderful explanation

834
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.000
<v Speaker 2>is when these things do fly to fall to the ground,

835
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.840
<v Speaker 2>why they might look like metal is because I believe

836
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:11.519
<v Speaker 2>that these are ran by If these are ran by

837
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 2>higher consciousness beings, when they when the beings are no

838
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:18.840
<v Speaker 2>longer working that plasma or remote viewing from that plasma,

839
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:21.559
<v Speaker 2>it's going to turn into a metal and materialize when

840
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.639
<v Speaker 2>it hits the ground because you don't have that higher

841
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:26.079
<v Speaker 2>consciousness that knows how to work with it. And in

842
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:30.119
<v Speaker 2>the Julia model, metal is very similar to plasma, so

843
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:33.760
<v Speaker 2>much so that Lockheed Martin has patents and people that

844
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:37.480
<v Speaker 2>train these people who are flying these kind of shape

845
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:41.239
<v Speaker 2>shifting metal planes because their consciousness can interact with the planes.

846
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:45.559
<v Speaker 2>So basically, if if the astronauts and plane people have

847
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 2>too much emotions going on, they're worried that it could

848
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>take down the plane. So they know that our consciousness

849
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.920
<v Speaker 2>affects metal and matter in these weird plasmatic ways.

850
00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>And there's you know, plasma is actually closer to metal

851
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>than what people think. The yeah thing I learned recently

852
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:05.639
<v Speaker 1>was that because when we define these things, we're really

853
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 1>talking about how the particles are actually able to move

854
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.880
<v Speaker 1>or were not able to move, you know, solid versus gas,

855
00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:14.840
<v Speaker 1>versus liquid versus plasma, And the feature of plasma is

856
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that the electrons are moving freely. They've created a soup

857
00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:21.599
<v Speaker 1>in fact, where the electrons and metal, actually the in

858
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.719
<v Speaker 1>metal electrons actually move relatively freely as well, so to

859
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:28.119
<v Speaker 1>something they share that property, So you could there's to me,

860
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I doesn't have any problem. Imagine a phase transition where

861
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.280
<v Speaker 1>a metal transitions between plasma and a metal state.

862
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:36.840
<v Speaker 3>I think that's really possible.

863
00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>And so people they say, oh, what about the buga

864
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.119
<v Speaker 1>sphere and all this. I mean, in theory, I can

865
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 1>imagine there being a plasma ball that turns into a

866
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.239
<v Speaker 1>metal ball after it it's deactivated or what have you.

867
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:49.519
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know until I see it myself. It's

868
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:51.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna be hard to you know, fully grasp.

869
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Can I say? I'm noticing right now? Just with your background,

870
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 2>are those Pokemon cards?

871
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 1>These These are not my brother taught me. My nephew

872
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.039
<v Speaker 1>taught me play Pokemon cards.

873
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Like recently, Like I'm not wood.

874
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Tier, you know, I might be higher than Rush here

875
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 1>at this point, like maybe Bronze, I was just.

876
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Thinking PoCA balls and orbs and how they have you know,

877
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 2>these mythological creatures in them. It just reminds me of

878
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 2>these or like Fantastic Planet, the movie where the aliens

879
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:18.039
<v Speaker 2>are in little orbs. It's just like, you know, it

880
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:20.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of foreshadows what we're saying.

881
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:25.119
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but consciously I wanted to expand on the

882
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>consciousness thing that you said, because this is something that's

883
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>come up with the UFO Lower a lot, and this

884
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:35.239
<v Speaker 1>is one that I've struggled with personally because honestly, for

885
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.599
<v Speaker 1>the people out there, I'm I'm more on the skeptic

886
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>debunker side than I am on the believer side, even

887
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:42.239
<v Speaker 1>though I say some of the craziest stuff ever.

888
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:44.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's hard for me to wrap.

889
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:46.840
<v Speaker 1>My brain around like, hey, yeah, we can use our

890
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:50.440
<v Speaker 1>minds and control these orbs and fly them around. It's

891
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.239
<v Speaker 1>not beyond the realm of possibility, yea, Because I mean

892
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>people have mindships in their head right now and they're

893
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>controlling playing video games with mind.

894
00:43:57.239 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 3>Ships in their brain.

895
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:02.519
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, it just seems difficult to grasp because

896
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:04.639
<v Speaker 1>I guess, in my perspective would say, why not just

897
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.280
<v Speaker 1>have a computer do that like the orbs in them

898
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>a Street seven zero video. I don't need a human

899
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>to be doing a mind link to make that happen.

900
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:13.519
<v Speaker 1>I can just have like AI can do that, you know.

901
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.719
<v Speaker 1>So yes, it's not that I don't think it's possible.

902
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:18.519
<v Speaker 1>I just think like, hmmm, why would I bother doing that?

903
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, you know. And this was we were talking

904
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:23.000
<v Speaker 3>about this on Space last night.

905
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Actually we were talking about how like in the the

906
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:29.199
<v Speaker 1>Venezuelan raid that just happened. The rumor is there was

907
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:31.320
<v Speaker 1>some advanced technology it was used, and we had drones

908
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.679
<v Speaker 1>that were just anil people. And somebody brought up like,

909
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>imagine like the super operator. The super operator's controlling like

910
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:41.400
<v Speaker 1>twelve drones at once, you know, and they've got their screens,

911
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:44.840
<v Speaker 1>they like, having a neural interface would be super And

912
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I just said, well, why have an operator at all?

913
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Couldn't you just have like the AI.

914
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Program that in and be like press go and then

915
00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.559
<v Speaker 1>it just wipes people up.

916
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.119
<v Speaker 2>I wonder I know if you saw the institute on

917
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 2>MGM or Amazon, but it has to do what they

918
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 2>put a battery of like ten kids together who have telekinesis,

919
00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:06.719
<v Speaker 2>and they create this battery where they you know, take

920
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:10.320
<v Speaker 2>someone over and almost like kill them, like with remote viewing,

921
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's like this weird thing, but I think it

922
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:16.400
<v Speaker 2>might have something to do with like the natural radiant

923
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.280
<v Speaker 2>energy that a human can harness versus maybe AI cannot

924
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 2>at this point in time. Maybe that can happen in

925
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 2>the future. But as far as like when I when

926
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I think of why we would use AI versus US,

927
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:32.239
<v Speaker 2>and this is just with like remote viewing or like

928
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, why would these beings view us and without

929
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:37.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, and not use technology kind of goes back

930
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:39.519
<v Speaker 2>to the feeling emotion. I was saying. I don't know

931
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 2>about you, but like when I've had these experiences where

932
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I can view other things, the what changes me is

933
00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:49.679
<v Speaker 2>the feelings and emotions I get. So that's probably why

934
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:55.000
<v Speaker 2>these beings are actually physically tangibly connecting in some way,

935
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:57.440
<v Speaker 2>if that makes any sense. But as far as like

936
00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, military uses that, yeah, I don't know why

937
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:01.760
<v Speaker 2>you would. Person So do you.

938
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Think there's aliens out there? Do you think it's just

939
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:04.920
<v Speaker 3>plasma orbs?

940
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 2>No, I think it's not explainable, And I think it

941
00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:12.239
<v Speaker 2>more is about like I think there's tons of things

942
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.320
<v Speaker 2>out there, other beings of consciousness. Is it parts of

943
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:19.920
<v Speaker 2>ourself right in Carl Jung's theory, is it higher dimensional beings?

944
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Is it our higher selves? I call it our future ancestors.

945
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:26.159
<v Speaker 2>I think we're all a big freakin' mefed up family.

946
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:29.159
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think it matters who's visiting us. I mean, yes,

947
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 2>like it could be a you know, a traumatic moment

948
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:34.800
<v Speaker 2>that's visiting us, and it's like a cryptid, But really

949
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:36.760
<v Speaker 2>we're focused on the cryptid and we write this whole

950
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.039
<v Speaker 2>book about cryptids when really it's like, you know that

951
00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:41.679
<v Speaker 2>we were like touched or like I don't want six

952
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:43.360
<v Speaker 2>then on here that we were like I don't know,

953
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:46.280
<v Speaker 2>traumatized as a child. And I think Carl Jung says

954
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:49.440
<v Speaker 2>this too, like man's biggest fears facing hisself. I think

955
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:51.239
<v Speaker 2>there's a bunch of us just running around scared, not

956
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:54.079
<v Speaker 2>wanting to face ourselves, when really it doesn't matter what

957
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:56.360
<v Speaker 2>it is. It's like what meaning do we want to

958
00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:59.159
<v Speaker 2>make and what relationship do we want to have with

959
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.360
<v Speaker 2>this and reaction? And then when we do learn from

960
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.599
<v Speaker 2>these experiences, what actually do we want to implement as

961
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:08.639
<v Speaker 2>change in our choices as human beings, Like we all

962
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:11.960
<v Speaker 2>need to grow up and face ourselves and then that's

963
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.360
<v Speaker 2>when magic comes into play, because actually, the more you

964
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.960
<v Speaker 2>focus on reality and what's really happening within you and

965
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:22.239
<v Speaker 2>your psyche, you can actually start to change reality. So yeah,

966
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I think some of this stuff is distractions that.

967
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Keeps us powered. Sorry, what was the last thing you said.

968
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:31.239
<v Speaker 2>That keep us disempowered? Like, if we're so focused on aliens,

969
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>we're never going to get our own magic powers back.

970
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:37.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like, uh, well, I don't know what movie that

971
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:40.320
<v Speaker 1>was where they take your powers and they like hide

972
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:42.800
<v Speaker 1>it in a tool or whatever. It's probably in much

973
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>of movies and books. But that was my ast questions.

974
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:48.000
<v Speaker 3>So what do you think is going on with the

975
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:50.880
<v Speaker 3>public discline? I mean, what are your opinion.

976
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:53.039
<v Speaker 1>On these people that are on the mainstream channels that

977
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:57.280
<v Speaker 1>are talking about we got crash retrievals.

978
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:57.559
<v Speaker 3>And alien bodies?

979
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how do you swear that with your perspective

980
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:02.880
<v Speaker 1>of plasma universe?

981
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, people might hate me for this one, but I

982
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:07.480
<v Speaker 2>just have to tell what I really feel. I feel

983
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.480
<v Speaker 2>it's a really big distraction. I think it's cool. I

984
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:12.440
<v Speaker 2>think it's been going on for seventy years, and it's

985
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:15.679
<v Speaker 2>the same narrative. And I would question any mainstream narrative

986
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.039
<v Speaker 2>like disclosures mainstream now, like I question that what's not

987
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:22.039
<v Speaker 2>mainstream is that we should listen to our inner selves

988
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:26.039
<v Speaker 2>and our higher selves, that it's more about like our

989
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:29.000
<v Speaker 2>magic powers. But that's not as cool or sexy for

990
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:31.199
<v Speaker 2>the news. So here we are just you know, talking

991
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:34.400
<v Speaker 2>about this other stuff. I am not saying it's all fake.

992
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:36.920
<v Speaker 2>I cannot prove that. And I do think that a

993
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:38.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of this is real, right, Like I do think

994
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:41.599
<v Speaker 2>there are crashes, and I'm sure there are retrieval Like

995
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:44.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm not discounting it. I'm just saying, like there's a

996
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:46.480
<v Speaker 2>huge part to the story that's not being told. And

997
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.239
<v Speaker 2>I like to look in those crevices of like what

998
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 2>are people not saying, like because if things were really

999
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.280
<v Speaker 2>being disclosed or leaked, why don't we know the nuclear codes?

1000
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:57.519
<v Speaker 2>Like why does only certain things get leaked? Like I

1001
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.119
<v Speaker 2>just I'm actually a skeptic and I question everything. I

1002
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.960
<v Speaker 2>always question one is not being said, but just to

1003
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:05.360
<v Speaker 2>listen to ourselves.

1004
00:49:05.960 --> 00:49:09.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and weirdly, if you I asked the same question,

1005
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.360
<v Speaker 1>and I would say you know, you see the people

1006
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:14.559
<v Speaker 1>on there, people that I talked about are like Eric Davis,

1007
00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>how put off the engineers.

1008
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.039
<v Speaker 3>Of talking about the UFO stuff.

1009
00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>And I say, what are they not saying? Well, I

1010
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>just go look at their scientific papers. It's like, Okay,

1011
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:23.960
<v Speaker 1>what have you been writing that you don't say to

1012
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Joe Rogan. Yeah, it's like all plasma stuff and like

1013
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:33.760
<v Speaker 1>extracted energy and wormholes and warp drives, a neutronic fusion.

1014
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know what the hell a neutronic fusion

1015
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:36.880
<v Speaker 1>meant a couple of years ago, and then I'm seeing

1016
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.599
<v Speaker 1>them writing papers about it, and I'm like, Okay, maybe

1017
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:41.280
<v Speaker 1>this is something we should look at it. Sure enough,

1018
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:43.199
<v Speaker 1>you dig it and you're like, oh, it's all about plasma.

1019
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:45.800
<v Speaker 2>It's all about plasma. I have the Academia app on

1020
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.480
<v Speaker 2>my phone just to look up stuff like that. That's

1021
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:48.480
<v Speaker 2>where the real news is.

1022
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't let you flex me too much. You're like

1023
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:52.360
<v Speaker 1>showing all your books off. So I got I got

1024
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>a little book here too. I don't have that one science.

1025
00:49:56.920 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 1>This is Mark Millis and Eric Davis, so pul science.

1026
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.239
<v Speaker 1>In their late nineties, there was something called the Breakthrough

1027
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Physics Propulsion Project that Mark Millis was the leader of

1028
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:12.079
<v Speaker 1>for NASA, and it pulled in Eric Davis hal put Off.

1029
00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I think George Miley was a part of it, John Kramer,

1030
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>several other engineers, and they were looking at what is

1031
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the next evolution of breakthrough physics, which includes they looked

1032
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:31.039
<v Speaker 1>at ideas like the ether, warp drives, wormholes and the

1033
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:36.239
<v Speaker 1>things that I've been mentioning, and they systematically like eliminate

1034
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:38.920
<v Speaker 1>things that can't work from a physics perspective and things

1035
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that can work. And I think people will be surprised

1036
00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:44.880
<v Speaker 1>to see the results. And what it takes is that

1037
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to find that plasma is the

1038
00:50:48.199 --> 00:50:52.599
<v Speaker 1>enabler of a lot of these types of effects because

1039
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:56.079
<v Speaker 1>it goes to the root code, the root code of

1040
00:50:56.280 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>the universe is that the electromagnetism of plasma made interact.

1041
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:03.280
<v Speaker 3>With that base reality.

1042
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Now, I don't necessarily know how to describe it, like

1043
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's I think my buddy Bob Green you would

1044
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:10.239
<v Speaker 1>say something about like the relic neutrinos maybe are.

1045
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Whatrins Neutrino's was the secret I'll talk about it at

1046
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:13.920
<v Speaker 2>a later date.

1047
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Talk about it now, because I was gonna ask you

1048
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:20.440
<v Speaker 1>if the neutrinos what you would imagine to be like

1049
00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the ether or whatever.

1050
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:24.039
<v Speaker 2>I didn't talk about this in my first book for

1051
00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:27.440
<v Speaker 2>many reasons. I eventually in the future will talk more

1052
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:31.280
<v Speaker 2>about this, but I'm still working on some things with it.

1053
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:33.519
<v Speaker 2>But one thing when neutrinos will just pause that everyone

1054
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:36.119
<v Speaker 2>to start looking up. It's there are three flavors and neutrinos,

1055
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:39.239
<v Speaker 2>and they kind of correlate with the roigbiv And if

1056
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:41.239
<v Speaker 2>we were on a holographic screen and they were made

1057
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:43.719
<v Speaker 2>of three flavors of ROIGBIV, they might have something to

1058
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:46.760
<v Speaker 2>do with creating reality and plasma technology. In the future,

1059
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I would look into neutrinos and I'll share more at

1060
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:53.880
<v Speaker 2>a later date. But the yeah, there's a lot there.

1061
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I know. This information just kind

1062
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:59.119
<v Speaker 2>of comes through me, but I wanted to share, Say Nelson,

1063
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 2>what you just said, and I oh, well, oh oh.

1064
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:03.199
<v Speaker 3>So.

1065
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:05.679
<v Speaker 2>I think the reason I can tell the truth about

1066
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:08.639
<v Speaker 2>a lot of this is I have never been contracted

1067
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:11.440
<v Speaker 2>by the government. I don't work with anyone. I am

1068
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.679
<v Speaker 2>on my own here. I am not sworn to any secrecy,

1069
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:17.440
<v Speaker 2>and I think that I'm in the perfect time to

1070
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:20.000
<v Speaker 2>do it. I don't think, you know, I think I'm safe.

1071
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:21.559
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm fine, and I think that all this

1072
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.639
<v Speaker 2>stuff is coming out anyway, and just so happens. I

1073
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:27.199
<v Speaker 2>never signed a contract that I couldn't say anything. So

1074
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a unique position where I'm not in any

1075
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:32.679
<v Speaker 2>dogma of religion or science or spirituality, and I'm just

1076
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 2>sharing I seek the truth and I'm sharing that where

1077
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:38.719
<v Speaker 2>some of these people like you speak of get interviewed,

1078
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.000
<v Speaker 2>but there's stuff they can't say because they've been paid.

1079
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:42.920
<v Speaker 2>And I make my money on my own, thank you

1080
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.079
<v Speaker 2>very much, so I can say whatever I want.

1081
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, same with me.

1082
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a certain freedom that comes with that

1083
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:51.480
<v Speaker 1>that is liberating.

1084
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:53.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, you can say whatever you want.

1085
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:54.639
<v Speaker 1>But this is a part too that a lot of

1086
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:57.679
<v Speaker 1>people struggle with this idea that could the government keep

1087
00:52:57.719 --> 00:52:58.280
<v Speaker 1>a secret?

1088
00:52:58.639 --> 00:52:58.840
<v Speaker 3>You know?

1089
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 1>And I go, well, how do you think they kept

1090
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.159
<v Speaker 1>nukessecret for last sixty seventy years? I mean, stop nuclear

1091
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.320
<v Speaker 1>testing in the sixties. What do you think we've been doing.

1092
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:08.960
<v Speaker 1>You think we just stopped nuclear science too? No, but

1093
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:11.639
<v Speaker 1>it's been we don't know anything about it. Turns out

1094
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:14.239
<v Speaker 1>this is another thing you probably familiar with maybe not though,

1095
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:18.440
<v Speaker 1>is that there was this idea of non fission ignition.

1096
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:21.719
<v Speaker 1>What this means is in a thermo nuclear weapon, you

1097
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 1>take the A bomb, which is like what we dropped

1098
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:27.159
<v Speaker 1>on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, big boom, and the A bomb

1099
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.280
<v Speaker 1>detonates a fusion bomb. The fusion bombs in the middle

1100
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:32.559
<v Speaker 1>of it, and the fusion bomb needs the A bomb

1101
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:35.880
<v Speaker 1>to detonate it to get this this detonation to occur.

1102
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So what they said was, well, we want to get

1103
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.079
<v Speaker 1>rid of the A bomb part of it. We don't

1104
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:41.719
<v Speaker 1>want that big A bomb part. We want to make

1105
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:43.760
<v Speaker 1>just the fusion part called the clean.

1106
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:46.079
<v Speaker 3>Fusion bomb, okay. And you know what they do to

1107
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 3>do that.

1108
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:49.519
<v Speaker 1>One of the ideas is you make an electric detonator

1109
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:53.920
<v Speaker 1>using plasma. The idea would be used plasma because plasma's

1110
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:55.519
<v Speaker 1>not going to create a big boom, but it's still

1111
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:58.760
<v Speaker 1>got this electric like a lightning bolt, and kind of

1112
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:02.760
<v Speaker 1>the lightning bolts converge on your fusion target. And now

1113
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.360
<v Speaker 1>you have a clean fusion bomb that doesn't necessarily release

1114
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:08.559
<v Speaker 1>the big boom. It just does whatever a fusion bomb does,

1115
00:54:08.639 --> 00:54:10.519
<v Speaker 1>which materialize.

1116
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 3>This is the question I asked people.

1117
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:14.559
<v Speaker 1>This is just like, if you want to know how

1118
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:20.920
<v Speaker 1>brainwashed we are, what does a fusion bomb do? Anybody

1119
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:24.079
<v Speaker 1>in the world know what a fusion bomb does because

1120
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:27.239
<v Speaker 1>we the last nuclear weapon we tested was in.

1121
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:30.559
<v Speaker 3>The sixties, huh and that's been it.

1122
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:33.440
<v Speaker 1>We've never seen one ever since then. And I think

1123
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:35.559
<v Speaker 1>people's mind would just be like, well, it's just like

1124
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:38.159
<v Speaker 1>an like the A bomb, right, why is it like

1125
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:40.559
<v Speaker 1>the A bomb? Because we say, so, what if it's

1126
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:43.639
<v Speaker 1>a release of what would a release of pure electricity

1127
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>look like?

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00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Interasting that I'm going to look that up in.

1129
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:50.760
<v Speaker 1>My own fun for your next book to which would

1130
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>be to look up the connection between look up non

1131
00:54:53.480 --> 00:54:57.800
<v Speaker 1>FISHI and ignition, and it's all about plasma detonated a

1132
00:54:57.880 --> 00:55:01.159
<v Speaker 1>fusion bomb, and that maybe something to look up because

1133
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:03.719
<v Speaker 1>people should be asking that question, like hey, what does

1134
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the fusion mommy or a thermonuclear repond even look like?

1135
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Today?

1136
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:09.280
<v Speaker 2>They should be You just actually really helped me out there,

1137
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:11.880
<v Speaker 2>because so I had this I do not like the

1138
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:14.440
<v Speaker 2>word channeling, but I had this thought. Right, I have

1139
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:18.880
<v Speaker 2>this weird distaste for fusion and fission and people are like, no,

1140
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:21.400
<v Speaker 2>it's safe, Like you know, you're talking about fusion's not

1141
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:23.440
<v Speaker 2>safe like fish and safe. And then of course there's

1142
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 2>cold fusion, right, which is something different. But I think

1143
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.039
<v Speaker 2>they spoke about this in fiosity too. But I just

1144
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:34.880
<v Speaker 2>think that if we I know this is gonna sound funny,

1145
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:37.440
<v Speaker 2>but if we more of people who are working with

1146
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:40.000
<v Speaker 2>plasma first heal their own consciousness and are in their

1147
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 2>hearts more. It's almost like the Unicorn mythology, where the

1148
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:46.360
<v Speaker 2>unicorn reveals her secrets to a pure maiden. A pure

1149
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:49.519
<v Speaker 2>maiden is not a virgin. A pure maiden is someone

1150
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:53.679
<v Speaker 2>who's authentic and in their heart energy and has pure intentions.

1151
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:55.719
<v Speaker 2>And I think if we were to have those when

1152
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:59.440
<v Speaker 2>we're creating with this plasma, plasma will reveal itself just

1153
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:01.800
<v Speaker 2>like the unicorn and revealed its magic in ways that

1154
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:04.519
<v Speaker 2>are more sustainable and work with our earth and are

1155
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.480
<v Speaker 2>not going could hurt us all. And it has nothing

1156
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:10.119
<v Speaker 2>to do with either fusion or fission. And I might

1157
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:14.199
<v Speaker 2>look more into this in the future. But there's something

1158
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.599
<v Speaker 2>else that we're missing. There's a third thing. There's always

1159
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:19.719
<v Speaker 2>a third thing speaking about duality. If we're looking at

1160
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:22.519
<v Speaker 2>these things, it's not there. It's just like black magic.

1161
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Look here, and I'm going to do this over here.

1162
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.360
<v Speaker 2>There's something we're not looking at, and I you know,

1163
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:29.639
<v Speaker 2>that's something else I'm looking into right now. Is a

1164
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:31.400
<v Speaker 2>third third thing.

1165
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:33.639
<v Speaker 3>I would recommend checking a neutronic fusion out.

1166
00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:36.039
<v Speaker 1>The difference between all those things that you mentioned is

1167
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:39.199
<v Speaker 1>at first glance confusing, and when you start to dig

1168
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:42.599
<v Speaker 1>into it, you realize that a neutronic fusion is like

1169
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:45.159
<v Speaker 1>the thing that when we were kids that they would

1170
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.159
<v Speaker 1>imagine like Jetson's energy being, which is like splitting the

1171
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:52.000
<v Speaker 1>atom and you're pulling the electricity directly from it as

1172
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:55.679
<v Speaker 1>opposed to doing a whole bunch more steps. And with fusion,

1173
00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:59.079
<v Speaker 1>there is no radiation re least with a neutronic fusion

1174
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:02.920
<v Speaker 1>at least versus and fishing is the one where you

1175
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:05.360
<v Speaker 1>would have radiation need all this radiation shielding.

1176
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there is.

1177
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:09.320
<v Speaker 1>And this is the thing, Like, that's another thing that

1178
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:11.039
<v Speaker 1>you bring up, is like, is there this third thing

1179
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:14.719
<v Speaker 1>we always think of like hot fusion, the token mac reactors,

1180
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:18.039
<v Speaker 1>we think of nuclear energy, but we never even knew

1181
00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:21.639
<v Speaker 1>about this other these advanced a neutronic fusion fuels that

1182
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:24.760
<v Speaker 1>you can use that have no byproduct, no negative byproducts whatsoever.

1183
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:26.599
<v Speaker 1>They just don't even tell you about that, but you'll

1184
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:28.480
<v Speaker 1>see references to it when you start looking in the

1185
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:32.079
<v Speaker 1>literature for clean fusion and you're like, oh, wait, that's

1186
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:34.800
<v Speaker 1>what that was. So to kind of round this out

1187
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:38.360
<v Speaker 1>this conversation, here's what I would ask you. This is

1188
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>what I like to ask people, because people ask me

1189
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:43.239
<v Speaker 1>this question, is that you know, what can we learn

1190
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:46.519
<v Speaker 1>from plasma to expand ourselves?

1191
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:49.199
<v Speaker 3>And why? Why is this important? Like why is this

1192
00:57:49.360 --> 00:57:52.679
<v Speaker 3>understanding of plasma, the universe, et cetera. Why does this

1193
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:54.159
<v Speaker 3>matter for our day to day lives.

1194
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:58.239
<v Speaker 2>There's so many reasons. I could give a hundred, but

1195
00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:01.039
<v Speaker 2>I think the most important right now is it is

1196
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:05.119
<v Speaker 2>directly linked to what we're missing as a society. And

1197
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 2>it's very simple.

1198
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:06.440
<v Speaker 3>It is.

1199
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.039
<v Speaker 2>It kind of reminds me of the Star and the

1200
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Fool and Tarot cards, even though I don't really know

1201
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:13.199
<v Speaker 2>the much about Tarot cards. It is knowing your power

1202
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:16.440
<v Speaker 2>and being yourself. It is literally that simple. It is

1203
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:20.039
<v Speaker 2>remembering who you are, learning to be yourself again authentically

1204
00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:22.920
<v Speaker 2>without fear of what anyone's thinking. And funny enough, that

1205
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:26.800
<v Speaker 2>directly links to plasma because and I go into my

1206
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:31.519
<v Speaker 2>book about this plasma think of thermodynamics, you become more

1207
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:35.599
<v Speaker 2>dense and wet to this plasma field. The more your

1208
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:39.119
<v Speaker 2>self you are, the more you're feeling emotions and it

1209
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:41.760
<v Speaker 2>can and the more you're coherent, the more you can

1210
00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:46.079
<v Speaker 2>actually work with plasma to create reality in beneficial ways

1211
00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:49.159
<v Speaker 2>you can live your dream life. And the more you

1212
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:51.280
<v Speaker 2>also know about how plasma works in science and the

1213
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:54.719
<v Speaker 2>dynamics of plasma, the more you'll actually learn that you

1214
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:58.199
<v Speaker 2>cannot force reality to happen. But there is a certain

1215
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:01.440
<v Speaker 2>surrendered I'm just going to say it. This is more philosophical,

1216
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:04.000
<v Speaker 2>but it all will connect if you look up plasma

1217
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:07.559
<v Speaker 2>and read my book as well. It is not about

1218
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:11.679
<v Speaker 2>willing something to happen. It is about knowing the feelings

1219
00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:15.519
<v Speaker 2>you want for your future and following that feeling and yes,

1220
00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.400
<v Speaker 2>setting intentions, but then letting plasma or this mystery bring

1221
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:21.199
<v Speaker 2>things to you in a way you could have never

1222
00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:24.239
<v Speaker 2>imagined beyond your wildest dreams. It is like anyone you've

1223
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:27.440
<v Speaker 2>gotten in a relationship with you didn't just like will

1224
00:59:27.519 --> 00:59:31.199
<v Speaker 2>them into existence like you you were when the best

1225
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:32.880
<v Speaker 2>things happen to us in life. It is when we're

1226
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:35.840
<v Speaker 2>just being ourselves and things just will randomly come to us.

1227
00:59:36.199 --> 00:59:39.360
<v Speaker 2>That is the magic we're all missing, and it has

1228
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:41.400
<v Speaker 2>all to do with plasma. Even though this might not

1229
00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:42.320
<v Speaker 2>make sense.

1230
00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:46.079
<v Speaker 1>Right now, so you have a you think that we're

1231
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:48.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna make it then, because here's my problem. I look

1232
00:59:48.920 --> 00:59:52.719
<v Speaker 1>at this technology, this stuff, and more I've learned about it,

1233
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it seems like it's unlimited potential.

1234
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:57.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, you spoke about it is basically

1235
00:59:57.320 --> 00:59:58.159
<v Speaker 3>like magic, you know.

1236
00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:00.360
<v Speaker 1>To me, So I look at it, I go, I

1237
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:03.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if we're ready for this, And ultimately I go,

1238
01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:04.639
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're going.

1239
01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:08.599
<v Speaker 3>To destroy ourselves with this? Do you at all? No?

1240
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll say why though? So Buckminster Fuller is a great

1241
01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:14.679
<v Speaker 2>quote that we're inventing all the right technology for the

1242
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:17.880
<v Speaker 2>wrong reasons. I think, as long I do hope for

1243
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:20.199
<v Speaker 2>humanity that as long as we all start to work

1244
01:00:20.239 --> 01:00:22.920
<v Speaker 2>on ourselves and get therapy and stuff, that we will

1245
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:27.239
<v Speaker 2>not destroy ourselves. I think that we dream up our future.

1246
01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:30.760
<v Speaker 2>And I'm optimistic because if we're pessimistic, we'll dream up

1247
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:33.079
<v Speaker 2>that future. So funny enough, the more of us that

1248
01:00:33.159 --> 01:00:36.920
<v Speaker 2>can create and imagine a better future, that imagining things

1249
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:39.480
<v Speaker 2>is what brings things into existence. It's just like thinking

1250
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:41.559
<v Speaker 2>something you kind of have always wanted and then the

1251
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 2>person calls you the next day. It's like, whatever we

1252
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:46.920
<v Speaker 2>think comes true, it's going to make it come true.

1253
01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:51.320
<v Speaker 2>More So, I'm in the school of thought, not of

1254
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:54.360
<v Speaker 2>toxic positivity. I hate that I have dark emotions all

1255
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:57.679
<v Speaker 2>the time, but of dreaming up a more positive future

1256
01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:01.320
<v Speaker 2>by believing in humanity and ours else. Yes, there are

1257
01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:05.119
<v Speaker 2>very evil people out there, but evil's just fear. Evil's

1258
01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.599
<v Speaker 2>human created. So I am. My goal is to actually

1259
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:13.000
<v Speaker 2>get in the rooms with these powerful people and remind

1260
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:16.239
<v Speaker 2>them who they are. And I think that the best

1261
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:18.119
<v Speaker 2>way to get you know, the best way to make

1262
01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:21.679
<v Speaker 2>change is not to demonize these people that are killing

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<v Speaker 2>the world right now, and it's not to befriend them either,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's to actually create change in them. And how

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<v Speaker 2>do we create real change in these people? And that

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<v Speaker 2>is what my goal is. But I have faith. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>an optimistic futurist all the way. And the most important

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<v Speaker 2>thing to learn about plasma that I'm which would go

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<v Speaker 2>good with your audiences simply if you learn about plasma

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<v Speaker 2>and science and the dynamics of how plasma works and

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<v Speaker 2>dusty complex plasma with electromagnetism. You can learn the magic

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<v Speaker 2>of how consciousness works with this more etheric plasma.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, well, I'm not sure I'm as optimistic as you

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<v Speaker 1>because I watch Ghostbusters and Staypoff Marshall and Man destroys

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<v Speaker 1>everybody at the end when they started thinking about this,

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<v Speaker 1>I was one that screws it up for everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what they're doing with a lot of like media.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there. That's part of like the fear right that

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<v Speaker 2>they're creating these fearful futures. But if we look more

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<v Speaker 2>into like solar punk and optimistic futurism, and and there's

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<v Speaker 2>even hints in all these movies the evil man when

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<v Speaker 2>he's trying to use the machine, he always gets killed

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<v Speaker 2>before he can use this like magic machine. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>always the purity, the pure person of heart that can

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<v Speaker 2>you know, use these machines. So I feel like love

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<v Speaker 2>always prevails, but it doesn't mean bad things won't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I like your view, Dana, I appreciate it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've enjoyed this conversation. So go ahead and shout out

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<v Speaker 1>you know your book and where people can find you,

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<v Speaker 1>because this has been really enlightening.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Plasma, a new force, plasma consciousness and a

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<v Speaker 2>new human potential. It is on Amazon. I sell a

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<v Speaker 2>few sign books on my website Dana Kipple dot com

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<v Speaker 2>and yes it was just Graham Hancock's book of the

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<v Speaker 2>Month for uh January. And then I also teach magic

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<v Speaker 2>classes the science of higher consciousness and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be gained into like edge physics and hinge physics and

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<v Speaker 2>topology and how that actually relates to our mental health

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<v Speaker 2>and plasma and consciousness. I teach just a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>random stuff on there, and that is on my Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>Danta dot the Alien, and the link in my bio

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<v Speaker 2>it is called a stand store, so you can or

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<v Speaker 2>on my TikTok at Dana Kipple or my YouTube at

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<v Speaker 2>Plasma Intelligence, so all the links are there.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome, Well, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to have you come back another time,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe on one of my live stream podcasts and talk more.

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<v Speaker 3>About plasma stuff. So yeah, it's a great day.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guys, I hope you enjoyed this hard Shrews

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<v Speaker 1>podcast with Dana Kibble. Check her content out, follow her

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<v Speaker 1>on social media. Guys, catch us next time.

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<v Speaker 3>Peace out, everybody,
