WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:01.280 It's nice eyes. 2 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:05.519 I'm going razy Boston's news radio. 3 00:00:06.120 --> 00:00:08.439 Thanks Ema. Great to hear your voice here on WBZ. 4 00:00:08.560 --> 00:00:11.519 My name is Dan Ray. I am the host of Nightside, 5 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:13.800 heard every Monday through Friday night from Aid and to 6 00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:17.399 a midnight I will tell you right out front, I'm 7 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:20.600 dealing with a little bit of a congested head cold. 8 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:22.839 You don't need to necessarily know that. But if I 9 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:27.079 sound a little different tonight, that's why. And I'm going 10 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:30.280 to get through this show with my pal Noah thought 11 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:33.200 to let me who is back in the control room. 12 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:37.799 Rob Brooks is off for the holiday. I'm juneteenth, as 13 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:41.759 is Marina. We worked with Karen Boussemi today, so we're 14 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:45.439 all set. We're ready to go. And I had a 15 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:47.359 tough night at the last hour last night. I was 16 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:52.719 really coughing, and I apologize for that. But I like 17 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:54.920 my job and I like what I do, and I'll 18 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:57.840 try to get through it and just work through it tonight. 19 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:00.560 That's ed tomorrow night and I can rest over the weekend. 20 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:03.119 Go to start off tonight with one of the great 21 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:07.519 friends of nights Side, the great Emily Sweeney, reporter at 22 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:11.319 the Boston Globe. She runs the Cold Case files. And 23 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:17.760 also she's the blater Tales columnist. Emily. I actually remember 24 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:23.400 this cold case. It goes back obviously twenty five years tomorrow. 25 00:01:24.359 --> 00:01:29.000 This is really interesting. Tell us about the disappearance twenty 26 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:32.280 five years ago of a young woman named Debbie Mello. 27 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.200 Yeah, Dan, this is one of the cases that really 28 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:39.000 really gets to me, and I appreciate you taking the 29 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:42.159 time to talk about it and let people know that 30 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:43.840 this is still an open case. 31 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:44.439 Yeah. 32 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:46.760 Debbie Mello is a mother at two, and she was 33 00:01:46.840 --> 00:01:51.319 thirty years old when she went missing June twentieth, two thousand, 34 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:55.120 so that was twenty five years ago tomorrow. The last 35 00:01:55.159 --> 00:02:01.159 person who was said that saw her alive was a husband, Louis, 36 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:03.760 and he said that they got into a fight in 37 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:07.239 Weymouth while they were driving and she demanded to get 38 00:02:07.480 --> 00:02:10.080 let out of the car and Route eighteen. He said 39 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:13.759 he did, and she got out. She left their pocketbook behind. 40 00:02:14.159 --> 00:02:16.639 He drove a little bit more. When he turned around 41 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:20.560 and came back, he says she was gone, and that 42 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:24.520 spot a major search up in Weymouth. She lived in Taunton, 43 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:27.919 you know, her and Louis lived in Taunton, and searches 44 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.560 were also conducted there, but she hasn't been seen since. 45 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:34.280 Wow. That that is a stumper, because, first of all, 46 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:39.199 even if someone was got into an argument with a spouse, 47 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:43.280 they were married, correct, Yes, Okay, So if someone you 48 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:45.479 get into an argument with a spouse and someone is 49 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:48.919 so angry or upset they asked you to pull over 50 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.680 and they get out of the car but lead their pocketbook, 51 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:56.039 that doesn't make a lot of sense because and. 52 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:58.719 Ruby eighteen too is a tough spot to be let out. 53 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:00.680 You know, it's very busy roadway. 54 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:04.439 Yeah, and no one else, no one else. I'm sure 55 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.400 the police probably ran a roadblock for a few nights 56 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:10.560 and did what they had to do and ask questions 57 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.879 if anybody saw it. Did anyone actually see her walking 58 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:14.759 along the roadway? 59 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:19.199 There was no no sightings of her, which which is 60 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:24.280 also strange. And you know there searches were conducted up 61 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:28.840 in Weymouth and also down in Taunton, and tomorrow there's 62 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:31.840 going to be an event, actually a memorial pac in 63 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:36.360 Taunton in her honor. Friends. It's open to the public. 64 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:40.840 Family are going to gather and you know, just remember her. 65 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:43.840 And you know, again it's great to spread the word 66 00:03:43.879 --> 00:03:46.479 that this is still an open case. If anybody saw anything, 67 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:52.159 knows anything, they can contact Norfolk District Attorney's office or 68 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:53.120 the state police. 69 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:56.360 So let me come back to the case at hand. 70 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:59.919 At what time of night was this argument? Was it 71 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.840 at dusk? Was it, you know, early in the evening. 72 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:09.080 When did mister Mellow say that his wife demanded to 73 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:09.960 get out of the car. 74 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:14.520 It's broad daylight in the afternoon between three and four 75 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:18.040 o'clock and June twentieth was a Tuesday, so it was 76 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:18.680 a weekday. 77 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:23.199 Good weather conditions, I'm sure you've checked that out. Decent weather, 78 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:24.279 typical June weather. 79 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:28.600 Yeah, yeah, there wasn't any you know, extreme weather or anything. 80 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:31.839 And again, it's just it's very odd. 81 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:32.319 You know. 82 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:37.519 The last another person who saw her alive was she 83 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:40.240 went to a doctor's appointment that day and that's where 84 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:43.480 Louis kind of picked her up. And again that was 85 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:47.680 right on Route eighteen and Weymouth, the doctor's office, so 86 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:51.759 she was seen there that afternoon, and what happened to 87 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:53.680 her after that is a complete mystery. 88 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:55.560 What was the argument over. 89 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:04.399 Money? The Globe actually interviewed Louis three days after Debbie disappeared, 90 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:08.279 and he said that she flipped out. They were arguing 91 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:12.040 about money. Apparently, you know, her family told me that, 92 00:05:12.920 --> 00:05:14.720 you know, a family member said it was over like 93 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:20.040 maybe face cream or something, that she bought a dermatologist's office. 94 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:24.519 And wow, any insurance policies cashed? 95 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:29.439 You know that I'm not aware of. I know Louis 96 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.879 ended up getting you know, divorced from Debbie while she 97 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:37.319 was you know, still missing, and you know, ended up 98 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:38.279 getting remarried. 99 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:42.199 And is he still living? Is he still living in 100 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:42.639 the area. 101 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:45.839 As far as I know, he's still living in the 102 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:49.800 same house. I called him for comment and he told 103 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:51.439 me to f myself and hung up. 104 00:05:52.120 --> 00:06:00.519 That's pleasant. Wow, well, Emily, that sounds like one that boy, 105 00:06:00.680 --> 00:06:08.720 the fact that that no one, uh, this is like 106 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:11.519 disappearing into thin air. This is a real tough one. 107 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:14.439 And it's pretty recent in terms of I mean, you 108 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:17.240 do some cases that go back fifty years where there's 109 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:20.720 probably no hope, but maybe there's some hope here. Did 110 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:24.279 she have? Did Debbie? I know I'm asking you questions 111 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:26.199 that I probably don't have the right to ask, but 112 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:30.360 I'm just trying to put on trying to put my no. 113 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:32.519 I know that, and you'll probably be able to answer 114 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:34.120 most of it, because I'm sure there's nothing I could 115 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:36.839 ask you that you wouldn't have anticipated. Did she have 116 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:42.279 any close friends that that that she that the police 117 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:44.600 have talked to or talked to at the time, Because 118 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:47.079 if she did, let us say, get out of the 119 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:51.199 car and just was fed up and decided that she 120 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:54.839 was going to go off and do some other life, 121 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:58.600 I got to assume that she would have she had kids. 122 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:01.079 I mean, the kids couldn't have and she's twenty five. 123 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:02.639 The kids couldn't have been that old. 124 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:05.680 Yeah, No, her she had two young kids that she 125 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:09.319 absolutely adored, absolutely adored, and that that was one thing 126 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:12.120 that that's come up again and again. And her mother, 127 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:17.120 who sadly passed away, you know, before knowing you know 128 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:18.439 what happened to her daughter. 129 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:19.319 Yeah, her mother. 130 00:07:20.160 --> 00:07:23.839 It was very adamant that Debbie wouldn't have left gone 131 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:27.519 anywhere without the children, her two kids. And you know, 132 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.040 there's a lot of tragedy has followed the family too, 133 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:34.079 since her stepfather was beaten to death and it actually 134 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:37.240 got into a fight with a guy over Debbie's disappearance, 135 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:42.399 like an argument. He ended up dying and her mother 136 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:46.519 passed away, and also her son, Louis Junior, passed away 137 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:49.519 not too long ago as well. So it's a really 138 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:50.160 sad story. 139 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:52.959 Louis Junior natural causes or. 140 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:58.639 I'm not sure. So I had just to respect the 141 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:02.920 family's privacy, but I get that he was hot broken, 142 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:08.079 you know, really sad case. And if anybody you know 143 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:10.800 is in the Taunton area that wants to participate in 144 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:13.680 the vigil, you know, tomorrow night, it's happening from six 145 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:17.680 to eight at Memorial Pack And you know, if anybody 146 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:20.399 has any information at all, maybe you remember something, maybe 147 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.920 you saw something on Root eighteen or something in Taunton 148 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:28.199 or anything, you know, please contact authorities. And also too, 149 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:29.800 if you don't mind me giving a shout out to 150 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:32.360 the Globe Case Cold Case Files newsletter. 151 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:35.240 Sure absolutely we're going to be. 152 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.639 You know, putting Debbie's story out there on the newsletter 153 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:40.799 and you can sign up for it at Globe dot Com. 154 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:42.960 Forward Slash Cold Case Files. 155 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:46.919 Do that one a little more slowly so everybody can 156 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:47.759 take advantage of it. 157 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:53.519 Go ahead, Emily, Okay, so it's Globe dot Com Forward 158 00:08:53.559 --> 00:08:56.159 Flash Cold Case Files. 159 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:58.600 I never know the difference between a forward in a 160 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:00.679 backwards slash. They all look the same to me. 161 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:05.559 Yeah, yeah, but you know those URLs, you know. 162 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.559 No, no, I get it, but I've they look to 163 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:12.759 me like it's angled from northeast to southwest all the time. 164 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:15.080 So I don't know if that's the full to the backward, 165 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:17.480 but I've never seen anything that goes in any other direction, 166 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:23.279 So I just say slash anyway. Emily, thanks for the 167 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:26.639 work you do, and I'm just hoping that someone can 168 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:29.679 can you know, for the sake of the family, and 169 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:33.120 for the sake of her child that has left, and 170 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:35.639 for her husband, that this case can get solved. Thanks 171 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:38.120 so much, deep appreciate it very much. Okay, we love 172 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:40.799 having you on the show, trust me, and we'll see 173 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:41.960 you in a couple of weeks and we'll talk to you 174 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:42.720 in a couple of weeks. 175 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:45.080 Sounds good, Dan, thank you so much. 176 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:46.600 Thanks, And if I don't talk to you, have a 177 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:49.120 great fourth of July. Okay, have fun, Oh you too, 178 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:53.360 Thanks Emily. When we get back, we're going to talk 179 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:59.360 with a very famous archaeologist. He's an Egyptian archaeologist, former 180 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:04.799 Minister of and Antiquities in Egypt, doctor Zahi Hawaas. This 181 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:06.759 is going to be a really interesting conversation. 182 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:07.399 Uh. 183 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:10.120 And he's going to be speaking in Boston next month 184 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:13.960 on July ninth at the Western Seaport, So I think 185 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:15.919 you'll be very interested to hear what he has to 186 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:17.600 say back on Nightside right after this. 187 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:23.360 Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio. 188 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:30.440 Night Side Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news Radio. 189 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:34.960 I'm delighted to welcome doctor Zahi Hawas. He is an 190 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:41.039 Egyptian archeologist. He's an Egyptian pologist and former Minister of 191 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:46.039 Tourism and Antiquities in Egypt. That's quite a title, doctor Haas, 192 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:48.000 Welcome to Nightside. How are you tonight? 193 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:50.720 Thank you very much. I'm fine. Thank you. 194 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:53.879 So you were coming to Boston. You you've been to 195 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:57.080 Boston before, but you are coming back. You're on a 196 00:10:57.279 --> 00:11:01.600 tour of about thirty may cities in the United States 197 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:04.120 and three cities in Canada. You'll be in Boston on 198 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:08.600 July ninth. We'll talk about that later, but this is 199 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:15.080 a tour in which you basically bring archaeology to life. 200 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:21.320 You are considered the world's most famous archaeologist. I know 201 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:25.240 this is a foundational question, but have you spent your 202 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:31.240 entire life exploring and discovering archeological sites. 203 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:38.480 It's fifty fifty eight years now working inside the pyramids 204 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:43.559 and the Kings, making major important discoveries that I'm here 205 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:46.639 now to reveal it to the public for the first time. 206 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.399 I'd love to ask you a question to which I'm 207 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:52.039 sure there is not a simple answer, but it's one 208 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:55.279 that has always intrigued me. I have never been to Egypt, 209 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:59.960 but I'm fascinated by the ancient history from my day 210 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.440 is as a high school student. Can you explain to 211 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:08.919 me in layman's terms, how these pyramids were ever built, 212 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:14.799 both from a construction point of view, how they could 213 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:18.279 have been built at that time without the machinery that 214 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:20.600 we have today with such precision. 215 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:26.279 You know, you have to understand one important thing that 216 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:30.000 the pyramid was the national project of the whole nation. 217 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:35.399 The three millions who lived in Egypt participated in building 218 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:38.159 the pyramid to make the king as a guid then 219 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:43.639 the households an upper and lower Egypt sinned workforce and 220 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:48.159 food to help be the king. We have an important discovery. 221 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:53.200 I found the tombs of the pyramid builders that tills 222 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:59.360 us important facts. Number one, the pyramids built by Egyptians 223 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:04.039 and number to the real slaves. And the most important 224 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:09.759 discovery that we made is the Wedding Rezorf papyri. Written 225 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:14.080 evidence for the first time tells us about building the pyramid, 226 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:17.480 how they cut the stones, how they transported the stones, 227 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:20.279 how they built the case of stones. Then what we 228 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.879 discovered until now that the base of the Greek pyramid 229 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:29.600 were cut down in the solid rock to be about 230 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:34.279 twenty eight feet of solid rock. All the stones for 231 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:40.039 building the pyramid came from the south side, one thousand 232 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:44.559 feet from the south of the base of the pyramid. 233 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:49.240 Means that many people thought that stones came from Torah, 234 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:54.320 twenty five miles to the east. No stones came from 235 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.159 Gisa plateau next door to the Great Pyramid, and the 236 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:04.960 egypt established to transport the stones, and we discovered remains 237 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:09.039 of this ramp from the quarry located to the south 238 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:12.480 west corner of the Great Pyramid of Kufu. 239 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:18.919 Give me an understanding, doctor howas and again, I know 240 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.200 I'm asking questions that we don't script questions here, but 241 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:26.600 all of us have in our minds. You know how 242 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:29.399 old the United States is, and we we believe that 243 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:32.120 those of us who happened to be Christian believed that 244 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:36.600 Jesus walked the earth two thousand years ago. We believe 245 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:41.320 the earth is five billion years old. On a timeline, 246 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:45.840 when were the pyramids built? I'm sure that there's not 247 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:48.759 a calendar per se, but what is the best guest 248 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:50.759 estimate if you will are estimate. 249 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:56.600 We we do have the exact date or building the pyramid. 250 00:14:56.799 --> 00:15:03.080 It's six hundred BC, thousand and eight, six hundred years ago. 251 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:07.320 And you have to know that the Gate Pyramid is 252 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:09.919 not the only pyramid in Egypt. We have one hundred 253 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:15.320 and twenty pyramids in Egypt. And in my lecture I 254 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:20.639 talk about the secrets that I revealed inside the Gate 255 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:27.519 Pyramid using very sophisticated techniques. We found voids inside the pyramid, 256 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:33.600 Big voice one, vomid above the grand gallery inside Kufu 257 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:38.519 Pyramid the size of two tracks, Big one. We found 258 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:44.200 a corridor by them, an entrance masuor important discoverages happened 259 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:50.120 for the first time using very sovestigated techniques. Technology reveals 260 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:53.960 lots of secrets about Kufu Pyramid. And this what I'm 261 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:59.320 talking in my lecture tool about how I revealed the 262 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:01.600 secret and the things. 263 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:06.279 Now, I believe it or not, our radio station has 264 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:11.440 heard literally across America. So I know this weekend you're 265 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:13.840 speaking in Pittsburgh, and then you're going to be going 266 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:19.440 to Columbus, Ohio, Chicago, Minneapolis, Cleveland, Indianapolis, and you'll be 267 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:22.200 in Boston on July ninth, and then you'll be down 268 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:27.399 in Baltimore after Boston. So for anyone who's anywhere, certainly 269 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:29.080 on the East Coast, it looks to me as if 270 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:33.519 you're going to be in Virginia Beach, Virginia, New York, Philadelphia, Washington, 271 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:36.399 DC before you go to Canada Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal, 272 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:39.600 and we have listeners in those cities as well. How 273 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:44.840 can people get tickets? Not only for Boston, which sold out, They. 274 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:47.840 Go to that, They go to the Lecture dot Com, 275 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:54.519 the AHI lectures dot com. And I think today my 276 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:58.799 lecture on Saturday in Pittsburgh, yes, will be number twenty. 277 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:02.039 I think, Yeah, you're you're you're moving, you're getting You're 278 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:06.079 a little past halfway through. But it's been an ambitious series. 279 00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:09.440 You You've spoken on the West Coast, in Texas, in Florida, 280 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:11.519 uh and as they say, you're going to hit the 281 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:15.400 Great Upper Midwood West. You're out in the Portland and 282 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:20.440 Seattle early on Phoenix, Los Angeles. So I don't know 283 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:22.440 how many people you're going to speak before, but you're 284 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:25.759 going to speak before thousands at these thirty you know. 285 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.680 At least in every lecture, I get like one thousand 286 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:31.119 and five hundred people. 287 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:32.480 Yeah, so you're going to pay. 288 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:36.000 We got like one hundred VIPs that I meet them 289 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:39.480 to take photos with them and answer all the questions 290 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:40.039 that they have. 291 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:44.160 Yeah, you you you sort of Yeah. People think of 292 00:17:44.200 --> 00:17:47.000 you as a modern day Indiana Jones. 293 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:52.400 And you know when we when we do the investigation 294 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:55.799 inside the Great Pyramid, we are thinking to do it live. 295 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:58.640 And you know whom I wanted to be with beside me? 296 00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:01.559 Who you do this? Addison Harrison Ford. 297 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:04.839 Well, Harrison Ford is still around, and I'm sure that 298 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:08.799 he would love that opportunity. And uh, and I hope, 299 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:12.279 I hope that comes to pass, Doctor Hawas. I just 300 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:16.279 again want to thank you again. 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When 314 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:02.599 we get back, we are going to talk some medicals 315 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:07.359 issues about long term use of cannabis, which can be 316 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:11.200 a problem. We'll talk about that at the other side 317 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:12.839 of the news, and then we'll go to the other 318 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:14.279 side of the news at the bottom. They are also 319 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:18.880 talk with the Massachusetts based author about what impact will 320 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:24.759 artificial intelligence have on writing, particularly writing of people who 321 00:19:24.799 --> 00:19:27.240 are novelists. We'll get to all of that. Remind you 322 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:31.920 to pull down our our new and improved iHeart app. 323 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.680 It's a marvelous device. 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We'll get to 352 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:10.039 all of that, I promise, and later on we'll talk 353 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:13.480 about perhaps the most important decision Donald Trump will ever 354 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:17.000 make his president and what he does regarding Iran. We'll 355 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:18.400 get to all of that tonight. It's gonna be a 356 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:20.559 great show coming back on Nightside. 357 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:25.319 It's night Side with Dan Ray. Hey, Dann BZ Boston's 358 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:28.359 news radio. If you're on night Side with Dan Ray 359 00:21:28.759 --> 00:21:32.480 on WBZ, Boston's news radio, Well. 360 00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:35.920 If you been smoking some weed lately. With the mysterious 361 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:40.039 illness on the rise for long term cannabis uses, its 362 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:46.880 called cannabinoid hyper emesis syndrome CHS and can affect essentially 363 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:53.960 anyone using cannabis. My guest is doctor seusshut Jaghi, Doctor 364 00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:59.680 guys John JUNGI. I hope I'm getting close on that pronunciation. Doctor. 365 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:00.480 How are you tonight? 366 00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:03.839 That's pretty good? Yeah, thanks for inviting. 367 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.880 Me, so tell us about that. I know that one 368 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:11.160 of the TV stations in Boston is doing a big 369 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:15.799 series this week. Actually, it's Channel five on the potency 370 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:19.440 of the marijuana that people are being exposed to these days. 371 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:22.400 As they they say, it's it's it's it's not your 372 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:26.279 parents marijuana in terms of impact. Does this have anything 373 00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:30.200 to do with the new and improved marijuana that is 374 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:32.920 out there these days or is this something that has 375 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:34.559 always been around. 376 00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:40.240 No, I think you're right, I think this is something new. Basically, 377 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.119 cannabis products, including marijuana, have gotten more potent over the 378 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:49.640 past couple decades. Yeah, that's because of the amount of THHC, 379 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:53.799 which is the active sort of psychoactive ingredient, has gotten 380 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:54.799 more and more potent. 381 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:59.519 And can just ask you real quickly before I got 382 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:01.640 to ask this, ques, I am not a smoker, okay, 383 00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:06.880 I'm not a smoker of cigarettes. Nothing, okay, But has 384 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:12.240 has the marijuana been developed scientifically to be stronger or 385 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:15.200 has it become stronger naturally? I hear it all the 386 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:17.680 time that it's more potent, But I'm wondering if that 387 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:20.759 has been scientifically induced or if it was just a 388 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:21.680 normal development. 389 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:25.640 I think the potency has been increasing for commercial reasons 390 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:27.960 to make it more syllable. 391 00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:30.359 Yeah, yeah, kind of what I thought just wanted to 392 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:32.400 make just wanted to make it clear. Go ahead. I'm 393 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:33.960 sorry to have interrupt you. I'm listening. 394 00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:38.400 So what you said initially is correct that this is 395 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:42.240 actually a new disease that we're seeing called CCHS. The 396 00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:44.839 first description of it was back in two thousand and five, 397 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:50.200 so it's overall pretty new disease. And CHS stands for 398 00:23:50.279 --> 00:23:55.519 cannabinoid hyper emesis syndrome, which means hyper emesis is vomiting, 399 00:23:55.680 --> 00:24:00.640 recurrent vomiting as a consequence of using cannabis. So patients 400 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:06.200 who develop SHS usually have episodes of belly pain, nausea, 401 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:09.240