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Speaker 1: You. I'm now listening to soft Core History.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to soft Core History. I'm your host for

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the week. Dammag Ester Joined has always been a round

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Fox Hello, and very special returning guests Alex Buscemi aka.

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Speaker 1: Boosh Cheers Straight from the Pool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely forgot about this thing and I was

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drinking at a pool as a Sunday It's Memorial Memorial,

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well tomorrow's Momorral Day, right, yeah, but this is when

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it comes to Orial Day weekend. Yeah, and so I

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was drinking out the pool and completely forgot, and then

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I had to get an uber here because I'm sufficiently buzzed.

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Speaker 1: That's what I like to hear.

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Speaker 2: Keep it coming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So if I'm not making any sense or I

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don't follow a story at all, buddy, that's what they

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want from you, I hope.

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Speaker 1: So that's what they That's what they came to listen to.

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It was one of our more.

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Speaker 2: Successful episodes, is when I got hammered for a thousand

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review and I didn't make it through.

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Speaker 3: No, he had to like, go go throw up.

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Speaker 2: No, I think I got hiccups though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It was the first time since I was probably

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nineteen that I was worried about how much someone drank. No,

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I wasn't even worried about you. When we did the

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breathalyzer race. Oh yeah, I slam your fucking face into

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the table after taking god knows how many rumbleman shots.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was a you know you, you slapped the

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table with your hand and bring her a forehead very

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close so it looks like you. But it's just a

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fun thing to do.

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Speaker 1: That didn't sound like a slap. It was a head.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you, I'm good at it. I'm like a mine.

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All right.

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Speaker 1: That was a heavy thought.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a.

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Speaker 2: There's nowhere you could watch that now, So I believe

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I have it. Someone has a hard drive.

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Speaker 1: I have the hard drive and I haven't looked through

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his contents yet, but I'm he said it was on there.

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Speaker 2: You're sitting on so many things. Apparently a listener sent

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in a gift for us a month ago, and it's

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just been at your house. Actually a perfect time and

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foot the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, we were opening it today totally on purpose, uh,

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for a Memorial Day, and not because it's been sitting

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in my house and I don't know what's happening. On

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any given moment, because there's three fucking kids going insane.

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No one of our most beloved listeners, I believe not

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only a softcore fan, but a TFM reader from back

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in the day.

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Speaker 3: Dog get over.

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Speaker 1: It was ten years ago, Houston, Hamilton. I'm sorry. It

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was a cool thing we did. It was great, and

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I'm gonna talks. It's like being like Ted Dancing. Get over, Cheers,

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you bitch.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing softcore history longer than one.

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Speaker 3: Was as iconic as Cheers. Yeah. Four guy, if you

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went to a frat in the SEC in two thousand

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and the late, he knows it was as big as

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iconic as Cheers.

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Speaker 1: Better than anyone. He knows because you started out. You

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were in college when it started, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was in college when it started, And then when

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I wrote for it, like I still half my frat

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was still there, and I became like people would rush

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and they'd be like, you guys know Boos from TFM.

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Yeah he's h he's in our frat and they'd be like,

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no way, let's sick.

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Speaker 2: My fraternity also used me as.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they gave you, gave you. They put you on

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the iconic Wikipedia Alums for a while and then they

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took a test.

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Speaker 1: Boo.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, before you just ship all over my life,

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and I do mean life, uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that is really your identity to this day

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at this point.

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Speaker 1: Whatever I'm not, I'm not even Ted Dancer from Cheers.

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I'm like, I guess like Norm or someone like who

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is only known from Cheers.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, And I just go, you were interne famous.

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We get it not anymore because we looked at the

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numbers and uh boy, it's fallen off. You have fallen off. Yeah,

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not what I used to be, but granted not the

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same as me. When I was working at Lifetime, I

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remember people with like people would recognize me from the

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website and they'd be like, you're working at the front desk.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: You'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna I'll see you in

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the showers and go put a gun in my mouth.

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I don't want to make other people have a tough

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clean up. My coworkers have a tough cleanup. But I

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can't live anymore.

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Speaker 2: And then my coworkers would be like, how the fuck

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do they know you?

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Speaker 1: He'd be like it's a long story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: See, you can empathize with like child stars or something

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a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I was so young.

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Speaker 3: They're like, why is.

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Speaker 1: Danny Bonaducci's sucking a dick behind this fucking raising canes

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pay rent? So Houston Hamilton, great guy, he sent us

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a gift. I'll read his note. First, softcore boys, I

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noticed a distinct lack of American flags in your studio.

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First off, there is a giant American flag.

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Speaker 2: It's not really in frame.

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Speaker 1: It is not in frame, but it's fucking huge.

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Speaker 2: It was more inframe when we had the wide. We

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don't do the wad anymore.

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Speaker 3: We don't need to get right up on the porest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, he goes, I wanted to fix that.

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The certificate will explain the gist of it. The Reaper

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may or may not have returned without its payload. Keep

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up the good work, Houston m Hamilton, Captain US Army

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Psychological Operations.

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Speaker 3: Nice. So this psychological what does that entail?

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Speaker 2: Torture?

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Speaker 1: You don't want to know. You don't want to know.

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So he said, this awesome certificate. It will go on

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the on the set along with the flag by read

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certificate first United States Air Force flown in honor of

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the Softcore History Podcast on behalf of the three hundred

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and sixty first Expeditionary Attack Squadron. This certifies that the

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accompanying flag of the United States of America was flown

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in combat from an undisclosed.

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Speaker 3: Location WHOA.

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Speaker 1: On the sixth day of April twenty twenty five, carried

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by an MQ nine A Reaper in support of Operation

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Inherent Resolve. So Operation Inherent Resolves flag apparently accompanied. And

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it's too bad Jake's not here because he'll probably I

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don't know where the reaper flew, but I'm guessing it

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was killing enemies of Jake.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna mention palace, Palestinians, some some somewhere

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to do with I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I hope not. I hope it's Syria. Yeah, it's some anyway.

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An signed by two people as well, Captain Vincent Chan

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the pilot, and staff Sergeant Aaron coma aguilera sensor operator. So,

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and we got the flag trying to fuck up the

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fold here boom. This is gonna go on set right

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after the show. I don't want to get up and

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funk up all the shots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you gotta get that probably shadow boxed that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I probably should. Yeah, I'll go handle that, but I'll

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leave it on set. In the meantime, no one's gonna

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fuck with it here.

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Speaker 3: Operation Inherent Results. I just like such a bad time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the best part of this whole thing is

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undisclosed location.

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Speaker 3: But turn that around for the camera. I love that,

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yes boom, because.

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Speaker 2: What if it was an operation that we technically weren't

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supposed to.

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Speaker 1: Be a part of, supposed to know about, which would

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be dope.

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Speaker 2: It's like we attacked Rush.

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Speaker 1: Actually, this is actually gonna be worse than the signal

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chat leak.

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Speaker 2: This is what actually blows out the episode. Finally we

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finally get the views we deserve. Yeah, and it's all

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because we, you know, haphazardly reveal.

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Speaker 1: They're like, wait, you said there weren't any strikes in

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that area, but this fucking dipshit podcast pulled out a

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fucking certificate. Oh god, at least we got a listener

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from the d O D. I guess there's one.

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Speaker 2: Guy monitoring friends in high places.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one guy, not him. I mean, Houston's in the army.

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low level spy, and the d od that's forced to

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listen to this episode.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, now you just made enemies with him because

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you call them low level. But buddy, you know you

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are if they.

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Speaker 1: Don't fucking front on where you are on the company

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ladder right now. I hope you rise, but you know

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where you are.

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Speaker 2: Kind of a decent transitions. Memorial Day, you know, Yeah,

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so why not talk about an insane troop? Hell yeah,

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a crazy man perfect, a mad lad of sorts his way.

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He's an American, it's not an American.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the lad kind of gave it away.

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Speaker 2: The British, you know, they don't celebrate Memorial Day. They

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have their own whatever closer to November eleventh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, world War One is there. World War One is

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way more of a national uh point and scar for

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the British than and French than World War Two because.

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Speaker 3: They lost an entire generation people.

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Speaker 2: This guy, he's obviously been mentioned in our discord, He's

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been recommended dozens of times. He's it's about time we

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get to him. Okay, we're talking, of course about mad

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Jack church Hill. Hell yeah, know about this guy here, about.

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Speaker 3: The one that stormed Normany with a sword.

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Speaker 2: He didn't storm normandy bone arrow, I believe. So he

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had a sword, he had a bon and arrow, and

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he had bagpipes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because they wouldn't let they wouldn't let children play

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music on the battlefield anymore.

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Speaker 2: So he had to, you know, kind of set the tone, yeah,

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for himself. In fact, he is quoted saying any officer

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who goes into action without his sword is improperly dressed.

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Speaker 1: I mean every Japanese guy would agree with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: John Malcolm Thorpe Fleming Churchill, simply known as Jack to

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his family, was born in Sri Lanka on September sixteenth,

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nineteen oh six, and his family moved to Hong Kong

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in nineteen ten.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, just so everyone's clear, if you're not,

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I just wanted to double check to make sure I

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was getting right. Scottish broad sword I think like something

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William Wallace or a Knights templar is holding. It is

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not like a saber, like a cavalry saber or a

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Japanese samurai saber. This is a big, two handed Kingdom

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of heaven ass shit right here. Yeah, it's a.

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Speaker 3: Heavy weapon for all you RPG players.

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Speaker 2: Which, by the way, is insane to look at in

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World War Two.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. What's funny about it too, is like if

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you're a German seeing him come at you, it's hilarious

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until the last like twenty feet because you're just like, oh,

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this assholes just got a sword.

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Speaker 2: They're actually brought down from German soldiers that like they

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wouldn't shoot at him because they thought he was just

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like a crazy farmer, Like who is that dude?

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Speaker 1: Like so he should have been turned into fucking suit

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by an MG forty two like one hundred times, where

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they're just like, what is this man doing? Who's this man?

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I save it for the guys with the guns. This

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guy's got the fucking solid I'm not shooting him.

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Speaker 2: Jack entered the Royal Military College in Sandhurst and graduated

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in nineteen twenty six, moving to Burma with the Manchester Regiment.

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on his motorcycle. This was a bit tricky since there

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was a glare and lack of roads, so he would

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follow the rail line on most of his trips. He

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also got really into the previously mentioned bagpipes during this

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stage of his life and studied under the pipe major

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of Cameron Highlanders.

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Speaker 1: Was he Scottish?

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Speaker 2: No, he just liked him, yes, okay, just was about

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that live Okay.

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Speaker 1: The Scots were for a long time after the unification.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure he was just autistic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I think that's how we die, Like anyone

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with any interest in history. Now we're just like, uh

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Ty Cobb was autistic. He was too good at baseball

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to not be. Like everyone is just diagnosed with autism now.

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Speaker 3: Dude, a lot everyone's self diagnoses with autism now too.

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They're like, Okay, I grew up, you know, upper middle class,

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white and privileged, but I need some I need a

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dash of struggle for my personal brand. So what am

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I supposed to do? Okay, I could you know, I

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could be a victim of ADHD.

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Speaker 1: Or autism out he's tired now, Yeah, so we got

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to step it up.

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Speaker 3: We gotta be. I gotta be the autism.

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Speaker 1: And on the autism spectrum. I played with legos once

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a week as a child, and that proves it.

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Speaker 3: Uh. It's honestly offensive to me because there's like people

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that like, you know, they're they're you know, they're gonna

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be stuck with living with their parents, their whole lives,

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like they can't you know. Yeah, Like but my mom.

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Speaker 2: Uh it is a spectrum, that's the spectrum.

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Speaker 3: But okay, like my my mom had a friend from

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college visit and they had a violently autistic son and

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he were like sitting at dinner and this kid stands

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up and he's just like drooling all over himself and

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he's just leaning over me, I mean, my dinner, Like

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what the fuck? And then he just reels back and

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cranks me in.

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Speaker 1: The face like clothes their open hand.

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Speaker 3: Uh it was open hand. And then he's reeling up

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again and they're like Matthew. He's like, Matthew, that.

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Speaker 2: Just sounds like an awesome excuse to hit people though, right, Yeah,

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But then he stayed in our basement.

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Speaker 3: We had like a finished basement in like a fold

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out bed. I know what it sounds like, like, oh,

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you locked the retard in the basement, Like, no, it

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was a nice finished basement and he.

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Speaker 2: There's no such thing as a finished basement. That's how

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I know you're lying.

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Speaker 3: It's not luck. But we had a universal remote and

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you'd say, you'd press GameCube would turn on the game.

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Qued do press TV turn on the TV speaker, turn

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on the speakers. He reprogrammed the whole thing, so we

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just had to like you'd press speaker and it would

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turn on the lights. You'd press GameCube would turn on

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the speaker, and we just had to memorize new buttons.

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We could never we could never figure out how to

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unfuck it. He'd like reprogrammed the whole thing. But this

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guy is so autistic. And then I'll see some hot

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chick doing stand up comedy. She's like, I'm a typical,

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I'm you neurotypical. People would never understand him, Like, shut up, bitch.

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That kid is on the front lines of autism, kicking indoors.

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You're on a boat in the Pacific. Not the same thing.

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And I know it's a spectrum, but just oh you

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it was Ausburger's, but Alsberger had was a Nazi Snow,

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we have to call it autism. No, you just don't

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have anything anymore. You just you just don't have anything.

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Speaker 2: Apparently, autistic kids live kind of in multiple dimensions according

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to mediums. My friend Schay went to a medium and

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she said the medium could like kind of figure out

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where the autistic kids were because they have one foot

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in the grave allegedly of a grave, but like in

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a different you know dimension, Okay, whatever the next.

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Speaker 1: After all, So they're just their frequencies are all fucked up. Yeah,

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and they can't.

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Speaker 2: So like there was a girl yesterday at the pool

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at Lifetime who was just having conversations with herself, but

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maybe she was talking to somebody else in another you know, realm.

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Speaker 3: If you're talking, if you're in a public space talking

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to yourself, Like, okay, that's that's real autism. You can

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put that in your bio. But like we had all

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these people fucking pretending for clout, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite tweets ever was about like, you know,

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like neurodivergence a term or whatever, and uh, people, the

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people will try to like dress it up or make

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it sound cooler even because even that's not good enough now.

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And someone wrote like, uh that they were neurospicy ADHD,

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and then a person quote tweeted and just said who

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also HD was like I would rather just be called

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return heart, and I was like, yep, yep, yep, you're not.

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Speaker 3: You can't say you are neurospicy because you had eight

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you have fucking ADHD. That's just like, you know, it's

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so common.

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Speaker 1: Such a cope.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen thirty six, after ten years of service, Churchill

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resigned his commission and turned to Kenya to make a

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living as a newspaper editor and male model for magazine

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ads Kenya, along with uh being an extra in films.

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Speaker 3: Was he hot?

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Speaker 2: I guess he was hot as a.

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Speaker 3: He must have been a honky. He was a Kenyan model.

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Speaker 2: He picked up archery and it landed him roles in

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Sabu and The Thief of Baghdad. He was able to

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qualify for the Archery World Championships in Oslo in nineteen

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thirty nine, where he placed twenty six, just years after

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picking up the bow. Okay, so he had like this

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obsession with the bow and arrow for like two or

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three years, and he's like, I'm gonna qualify for the

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fucking championships.

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Speaker 1: And I have nothing else to do, have nothing else

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to do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I guess he was like a featured extra

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in a bunch of movies.

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Speaker 3: That's really funny.

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Speaker 1: He was hot. I'm still back on the ken Yea.

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The magazine ads is what the male model for magazine

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ads is what's getting me in Kenya. Who are the

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Kenyan magazines?

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is like British occupied Kenya, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, but was it still just like yeah, we just

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I know that this is Kenya, but we can't have

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black people in.

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Speaker 2: Photographs still in the thirties now even here, well in

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the thirties, they just would just show up as a shadow.

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Speaker 1: Probably it didn't we didn't have the resolution of the technology.

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Speaker 2: Once Germany invaded Poland, Jack resumed his commission with the

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Manchester Regiment and was sent to pre Blitz, France. Churchill

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was second in command of an infantry company in the

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regiment's second Battalion. He was fond of raids and counter attacks,

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leading small groups of pitched soldiers against advancing Germans. During

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one of his forces raids, stories of Jack shooting a

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German patrolman with a bar arrow ran wild.

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Speaker 1: That's so unfortunate for that Nazi to just get an arrow?

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Did he kill him?

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Speaker 2: Years later though, when he was finally asked about it,

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he's like, I, by that point, I lost the bow.

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Oh yeah, So he kind of squashed the rumor, squashed

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the legend.

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Speaker 3: Damn it.

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Speaker 2: I should have went with it, but I had to

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throw that out there, and.

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Speaker 3: He was a man of honesty. I liked it.

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Speaker 1: He he could have leaned into that, no one would

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have questioned, Yeah, it was his longbow too, right, M

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So was it? I mean, I guess who knows, but

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you don't really. I mean, you can shoot straight with

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the longbow. But the advantage of the longbow, at least

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in its prime, was that it was a really really

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ranged weapon, like the Brits could hit you or the

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English could hit you way before you could hit them.

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Speaker 2: Although according to his story, he's like, at least from

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what I could see, I didn't get a confirmed.

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Speaker 1: Kill with the bow, but it hit him.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't know. Okay, he definitely launched the bow and

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arrow door in battle, but he doesn't know if he

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hit anyone.

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Speaker 3: And why would you not? This is a waste. You

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got a gun right there, We have multiple things.

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Speaker 1: I just like, can you imagine getting it is nineteen

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forty and you are part of the most technologically advanced

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army owner the German army at that point, I mean,

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you're doing things that are unimaginable, not obviously unimaginable, like morally,

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but like also unimaginable, like just warfare that has never

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been done before. Yeah, and a fucking arrow falls out

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of the sky.

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Speaker 3: What the fuck.

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Speaker 2: Tell?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's absolutely hell.

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Speaker 1: Although if I saw my friend get shot by an arrow,

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I'd be like, Oh, we're gonna win this war. That's

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what they got.

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Speaker 2: We find natives here.

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Speaker 3: But it's it was a psychological thing, right, Like this

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guy's so fucking unafraid of us that he's just in

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the middle of a field with the bow and arrow.

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That's that's the psychological aspect of it.

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Speaker 2: The War Diary of the fourth Infantry Brigade commented one

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of the most reassurance sights of the embankment from Dunkirk

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was that Captain Churchill cruised down the beach on his

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motorcycle with bows and arrows, just like.

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Speaker 1: It'll be fine, boys, boats are coming, it'll be fine.

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There's like people dead all over the beach. They're getting

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strafed by fucking stukas, and this guy's just like too

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bad ass to die, But like everyone else is a normy.

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He's like, I don't I think you'll be fine, You're

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too crazy to Yeah, I think you'll be Okay. I'm

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so scared. I'm so fucking scared.

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Speaker 3: I will never be the same.

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Speaker 2: He was seen zooming across the Flanders playing on a

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small motorcycle, his bow tied to the frame a German

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officer's cap hanging off the headlight.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I also liked that as bow is mounted

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on the motorcycle the way Captain America mounts his shield

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on the motorcycle. Just on the fucking front.

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Speaker 2: He won his first military cross Storing the Retreat to

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the Channel, when he hitched six trucks together to salvage

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a disabled British tank. Although in the end he could

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not save the tank, he did rescue a wounded British officer.

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After Dunkirk, Churchill volunteered to the Commandos, a special forces

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division dedicated to carrying out raids against German occupied areas

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of Europe. As a commando, Churchill gained notoriety for charging

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into battle, playing the bagpipes and throwing grenades.

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Speaker 1: So just pipes in one hand, take your mouth off,

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bite toss, pipe back in mouth. See where that. See

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how that grenade does pipe out, bite toss.

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Speaker 3: I feel like in World War Two playing the bagpipes

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like you're just giving away your position.

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Speaker 1: You literally are. It seems especially bad for a commando raid.

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Speaker 3: Right like you met.

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Speaker 1: Like the Navy seals are just going into bin Laden's

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complex and the one guy in the back playing playing

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Timmy trumpets as they fucking go in.

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Speaker 2: They just have their bluetooth speaker, Yeah, playing fettiwop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fetti wap is actually perfect for the era.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Osama's just watching his porno and then he just

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hears bagpipes in the distance. He's like, what the fuck

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is going on? And then boom.

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Speaker 2: During these early raids, Jack was only wounded outside of battle.

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A British demolition expert accidentally set a charge near Jack

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calls in the bottle of wine he was drinking a

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shatter and launch into his forehead. Of course that's how

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he gets it, of course, and just a bomb goes off,

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just drinking wine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's just like, ah, damn it, fuck, I

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need a new wine.

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Speaker 2: With nothing more than a flesh wound, Jack wrapped up

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his dome and led the commandos across Europe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't imagine that kept him out of action

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for one second.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: Churchill was second in command of the number three commando

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in Operation Archery, a raid of the German garrison at Vaghsoy,

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Norway on December twenty seventh, nineteen forty one.

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Speaker 1: So he named it. He named that. What do you

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want the operation to be?

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Speaker 3: Archery?

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Speaker 2: Operation? Archery?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, God damn it, dude. All I can think

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00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,039
right now is like, I wonder what the men below

474
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him thought of him? Right? Because you've seen have you

475
00:22:15,079 --> 00:22:16,079
seen a Generation Kill?

476
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 3: Yeah? I love that show, Like you know, it.

477
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: Reminds I'm almost as Captain America from Generation Kid. We're like,

478
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,519
we're like everyone below him like, this guy is such

479
00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:26,200
a fucking asshole.

480
00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:30,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the guy was also like kind of a he.

481
00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:33,039
Speaker 1: Was also incompetent in a pussy and this guy, this

482
00:22:33,079 --> 00:22:35,400
guy's a badass. I don't know if he's competent, but

483
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:36,240
he's not a pussy.

484
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Speaker 3: Definitely not a pussy.

485
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Speaker 2: As the rams fell on the first landing craft, Churchill

486
00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:44,680
and his commandos leapt forward from their position while he

487
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,240
played March of the Cameron Man.

488
00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: That everyone else is just like two, oh God, get down,

489
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and he's just like I gotta play my song tradition.

490
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Speaker 2: They overran the garrison in less than ten minutes, inner

491
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,440
capture and all enemy soldiers they encountered. Have you have

492
00:23:03,559 --> 00:23:06,119
you ever like what do you mean him or was

493
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,720
he playing the fucking bagpipe the whole time? I mean, dude, bagpipes.

494
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: He didn't do anything bagpipe, just chilling on his side.

495
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: He's got it in his mouth. He can still. He's

496
00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:17,039
like his his hands are available.

497
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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, But dude, bagpipes hype you up. Man,

498
00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:22,960
Like if you're marching in a battle and you have

499
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,079
a bagpipe plan like that, would I'd be ready to

500
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:25,880
kill man. Yeah.

501
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: No, he was fucking sing all right. As he was

502
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,759
marching through Sicily. With the help of a corporal, he

503
00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:36,880
infiltrated the town of Molina, capturing the post and took

504
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forty two prisoners, including a mortar squad. Churchill led the

505
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,599
men and prisoners back down the pass, with the wounded

506
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:50,160
being carried on carts pushed by German prisoners. So he

507
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,559
and another corporal took an entire town over hell. Yeah.

508
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Speaker 1: Although I do think at a certain point I won't

509
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know if the Germans were there yet, but like at

510
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,519
some point when it's like, yeah, dude, we captured fifty Germans.

511
00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:05,119
Just the three of they were giving up. They were

512
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,480
like they were like, oh thank god.

513
00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:11,319
Speaker 3: Ah, the Germans were fucking dirb about to get rotated

514
00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:12,200
to fucking Ukraine.

515
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: The reason they were able to take over this town

516
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:17,640
and capture all those Germans was they had everybody else

517
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,920
stay back and kind of make sounds from off in

518
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,440
the distance.

519
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: I could think the battle with somewhere else.

520
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, bad pipes, and then they kind of swooped in

521
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,880
and yeah, took the damn.

522
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Speaker 3: That's sneaky. I like that.

523
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,599
Speaker 1: But still it's like there's like two guys like, hey, hey,

524
00:24:30,839 --> 00:24:32,599
you are prisoners. Now there's like forty people.

525
00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:33,839
Speaker 2: They're like fuck it.

526
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm done, dude, you're gonna lose anyway.

527
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: It's yeah, like this sucks.

528
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: Cherchia later walked back to the town to retrieve his sword,

529
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,759
which he had lost in hand to hand combat with

530
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a German regiment.

531
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: Oh no, he used the sword.

532
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,079
Speaker 2: He was using the sword again.

533
00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: The guy with the sword is really funny when you

534
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,680
see him through your rifle sights one hundred yards away,

535
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,200
like idiot. But if he keeps making it like what's that?

536
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,759
What's that thing? It's like an Internet like question, Like

537
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,720
you can get like a billion dollars, but there will

538
00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:05,559
be a snail that's y chasing it. All and if

539
00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:07,640
it touches you, it kills you. Yeah, that's him with

540
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,599
the sword. It doesn't sleep, Yeah, it doesn't. It's always

541
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,079
moving and it's just like you see him, You're like, idiot.

542
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: It can take transportation.

543
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: And then he gets ten feet away from you and

544
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,480
all of a sudden, your rifle with maybe a bayonet on.

545
00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:23,079
It doesn't feel so sweet.

546
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:23,519
Speaker 3: No.

547
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,079
Speaker 2: On his way there, he encountered a disoriented American patrol

548
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,480
mistakenly walking towards enemy lines. When the NCO and command

549
00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:35,519
of the patrol refused to turn around, Churchill told them

550
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,960
he was going his own way and that he would

551
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,119
not come back for a bloody third time. So he

552
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,920
picked up a sword and just gotta even get back.

553
00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: But they were just wandering and he was still like

554
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,599
and he was like, hey, no, don't go that way,

555
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,440
don't go that way. And they were like, fuck you buddy.

556
00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean fuck you buddy to the guy

557
00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:54,759
playing bagpipes and having a sword.

558
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,839
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. I honestly that sergeant didn't really make the

559
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,880
wrong call like he Maybe he did technically, but.

560
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,559
Speaker 2: I don't think you're a part of the British Special Forces,

561
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:05,000
my man.

562
00:26:05,079 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if like a magical man pops out of

563
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,720
a sewer and just like, don't go that way.

564
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 3: A comet will hit you.

565
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: A mediorite's gonna fall down and hit you in the head.

566
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,160
You're gonna be like, whatever, asshole, you're not listening. You're

567
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,279
you feel insane listening to that guy.

568
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:24,079
Speaker 3: Yeah.

569
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,799
Speaker 2: As part of the McLean Mission in nineteen forty four,

570
00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:30,119
he led the commandos in Yugoslavia. In May, he was

571
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,279
ordered to raid the German held island of Brock. A

572
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:37,319
flanking attack was launched by forty three Commando, with Churchill

573
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,160
leading the elements from forty Commando. The Partisans remained at

574
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,599
the landing area. Only Churchill and six others managed to

575
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,480
reach the objective. A mortar shell killed or wounded everyone

576
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,359
but Churchill, who was playing will Ye No Come back

577
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,559
Again on his pipes as the Germans advanced. Yeah.

578
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: See, this is what I'm asking about, Like, what did

579
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,839
the people under him think? Like, his immediate underlings had

580
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,119
to be like, hey, they're they're just they've got eight

581
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,880
mortars and we are they are zeroed on us, and

582
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,240
he's just like burner nopep, going, come on, We're gonna

583
00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:16,880
keep walking. I got a sword, it's fine, just like

584
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,200
explosions everywhere, and they're just like, I don't think you

585
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:27,160
are willing to accept the reality of of anything, let

586
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,279
alone this combat that's going on right now. No, it's fine.

587
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: They're just getting shelled.

588
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:38,079
Speaker 1: Like everyone else is gonna metal flying through.

589
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: The six people survived this.

590
00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:42,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, out of what eighty he said, out of like.

591
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,599
Speaker 2: Something like that, Yeah, like eighty three.

592
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: He's just like, ah, you're just playing the bagpipes the

593
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:47,400
whole time.

594
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: Tough day, tough day, but a hard day, but a

595
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,640
good day. Everyone's like.

596
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 3: Jesus.

597
00:27:58,039 --> 00:28:01,599
Speaker 2: So he's captured by Germans. They had a commando specific

598
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,480
order to kill all those in special forces on site

599
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:12,039
without trial. But his last name they thought he was somebody.

600
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,400
They thought he was a somebody. They thought he was

601
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,440
related to Winston Churchill.

602
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:16,559
Speaker 1: This piece of ship.

603
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,039
Speaker 3: They couldn't just google it back then, right, you know

604
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,720
find out Churchill's family.

605
00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:22,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like Churchill, all right, this might be like

606
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,759
you know trade people, could you like captured the Iraqi's

607
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:29,920
like captured a dude named Bush and the Iraq war

608
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,519
and they're like, well, total body.

609
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,079
Speaker 1: We love Bush a hundred, we love Bush thousand, Bush

610
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,240
family in the United States.

611
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: We love Bush, especially on our women.

612
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:47,039
Speaker 2: So they had Churchill flown to Berlin for interrogation, where

613
00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,880
he was treated extremely well, as they still thought he

614
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:53,559
was a potential you know, trade asset.

615
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: He got sent to the heart. Yeah, did he meet Hitler.

616
00:28:58,119 --> 00:29:01,759
Speaker 2: Didn't meet Hitler, but he did say the commanding officer

617
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,200
of the Nazis that was in charge of like his

618
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,720
transportation and everything, and his interrogation was so nice that

619
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:11,319
he invited him to dinner after the war.

620
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: See, this is asshole shit, this is shit. If you're

621
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,880
a normal soldier, you have to fuck like it's sweet

622
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,400
for us, it's sweet for like the normy. He's to

623
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,759
be like called the bonas. But like any normal soldier

624
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:29,119
under him is just like you fucking asshole, like you

625
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,319
got us all killed. Then you get on a bus

626
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,000
and they treat you like a VIP and you're.

627
00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 4: Like, oh, no, he's not so bad, o't they? Oh

628
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,519
it's not so bad. No feed outns block. I don't

629
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:44,519
have him out after the wool and he's not having

630
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:48,319
dinner after the war. The eighty fucking people you made

631
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,359
march in a line like it was fucking Waterloo while

632
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:54,839
they were raining hand cannons on you.

633
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,279
Speaker 2: In late April nineteen forty five, Churchill in about one

634
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:01,039
hundred and forty other prominent prison were sent to the

635
00:30:01,119 --> 00:30:03,880
concentration camp in Sachsenhausen.

636
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, So for every concentration camp you heard of

637
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:09,920
and can pronounced. This is so people like when they

638
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,160
think of the Holocausts are like, oh, yeah, like doc Waschwitz,

639
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,200
et cetera. But they were like literally hundreds of them

640
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,839
all over there were those were like the three or

641
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,640
four big ones, but they were like the one in

642
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,839
Bandon Brothers that they liberated. I don't remember the name

643
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,160
of it. Like it was just a little one everywhere.

644
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: They had one for like every city. They would just

645
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,240
like go to the city and then you know, like

646
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:33,559
you know, just on the outskirts and the you know,

647
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:35,359
where the suburbs would be is where they would build

648
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:37,839
them so you could see like the skyline of your

649
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:42,519
city while you're while you're fucking concentration camp. Oh, all

650
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:45,160
the smoke out of that camp smells terrible. So you

651
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,200
know the one they sent all the Jews to the Gypsies.

652
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,720
I don't mind the Gypsies, but the Jews seems.

653
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,359
Speaker 2: Like a lot yeah, this was like VIP concentration camp.

654
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah there was actually because.

655
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,359
Speaker 2: Again they still think he's like Winston Churchill's cousin or something.

656
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: Right, and since he he's not, since he's a commando

657
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,079
and not like a regular soldier or airman, he doesn't

658
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:07,559
get sent to normal pow camp.

659
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: No. Yeah, what happened to the other guys that got

660
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,480
captured with him? Probably got killed?

661
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably killed out on site.

662
00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:17,359
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh boy, well that's the prope and

663
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,880
wool like. Then meanwhile he's like, I'll look forward to

664
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,640
his bus rode.

665
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,079
Speaker 3: He's just playing the bagpipes while they get executed.

666
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,559
Speaker 1: What more song for you boys?

667
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:27,319
Speaker 3: Like a fucking fucking.

668
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: This is the last thing they think, But the.

669
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: Last thing they hear is the horrible shrill sounds of

670
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,480
a bagpipe.

671
00:31:34,519 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how this is gonna go, but I

672
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,400
will say we should do an episode on this. At

673
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,240
one point I learned about a long time ago, like

674
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:42,279
I think in actually like high school history class. Obviously,

675
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:44,640
they were much nicer to the British and Americans than

676
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,039
the Russians. The Germans were, and they would send a

677
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:50,720
lot of Russians to concentration camps like POW's and shit,

678
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:54,000
And they made a mistake of sending some Russian I

679
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,160
think officers to a concentration camp. And the Russian officers

680
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,720
were competent military men, so they were like this and

681
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:01,839
they organized.

682
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,519
Speaker 2: Like it was a coup.

683
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:05,519
Speaker 1: A full concentration can't break out, yeah, yeah, like not

684
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:08,640
a not a pow breakout like in the Great Escape,

685
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,559
like a concentration camp, fucking jail break because they weren't

686
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,000
just like you know whatever. It's like a normal Jewish

687
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:18,000
baker or something who's fucking terrified.

688
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,519
Speaker 2: Come on, you don't think this guy's gonna try to

689
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:20,079
make an escape.

690
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: I know he is. I know he is. That's where

691
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,720
we're I know that's where this is. I don't know,

692
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:25,079
but I feel like that's where this is going.

693
00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: So he would go and he would have got gotten

694
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,000
away if he didn't play the bagpipe hole.

695
00:32:30,039 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: It's always a mistake. You got to keep the competent

696
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:38,440
hardcore dudes away from the terrified civilians that you can abuse,

697
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:41,319
because those guys, you can't abuse them with them, they'll

698
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,119
bring the civilians on their side and be like all right, somebody,

699
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:47,440
like they're gonna be the leader and they're gonna flip

700
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,640
the switch, well, flip the scripts.

701
00:32:49,839 --> 00:32:52,599
Speaker 2: That would only happen if they're treated poorly, which oh

702
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,680
my god he was because uh, the SS troops that

703
00:32:56,759 --> 00:32:59,240
guarded this concentration camp didn't give.

704
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,319
Speaker 3: A fuck who he was. Right.

705
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,519
Speaker 1: I was about to say if he got VIP at

706
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:07,200
a concentration camp and was like, oh, yes, yes, showman's

707
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:12,200
quite brutal to the Jewish and Romoni. But but but

708
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:17,759
I always say, was treated nothing but respect, So I've

709
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:21,519
narry a non cond word to say. Tomorrow German captives,

710
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,359
it's just a Jewish child being shot, and he's like, wow,

711
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:26,640
war is odd, but mine was not.

712
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:33,039
Speaker 2: He got the good showers, Yeah, the water showers with

713
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:37,359
water and not poison gas. He ends up devising a

714
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,839
plan with a few other Royal Air Force officers prisoners

715
00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:43,400
as you were mentioning, like they were all together.

716
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:46,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, hmm, they're only gonna get up to no good.

717
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:49,240
By the way, fun fact, I didn't know this until recently.

718
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:51,400
You know the reason why, like everyone who flies a

719
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,000
plane in the Air Force is an officer, even if

720
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:58,200
it's just like a normal fighter pilot, it's because I

721
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,000
think I think they just do it now just because.

722
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,279
But during World War Two the officers were treated better,

723
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:06,359
so everyone on a bomber pretty much everything.

724
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: When you had to do with Jack and you got captured.

725
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: Yep, you would get because they it was just the

726
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,800
rules of war that you treated officers better than so

727
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,599
like a plane crash and like, what do you mean

728
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:20,159
you're all lieutenants? What the fuck?

729
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 2: Well that was the thing in World War One too,

730
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,559
because especially the Dogfight and Era. Yeah, I remember we

731
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:29,840
did an episode where the guy had his captives playing

732
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,639
the piano. Yeah, like what the fuck giving him like

733
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,880
a five course meal? Yeah, uh no, but Jack here

734
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,960
was starved and beaten so brutally and that he's like,

735
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,400
I need to get the fuck out of it.

736
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

737
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,199
Speaker 2: So they end up tunneling their way out.

738
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,599
Speaker 3: Shaw Shank Shank Redemption.

739
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: The Great Escape. Have you guys have seen The Great Escape?

740
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 3: Is this movie about him?

741
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,039
Speaker 2: Uh?

742
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:57,679
Speaker 1: No, it's about one of the most one of the

743
00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:00,239
biggest prison breaks in World War two history. It was

744
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,320
an Air Force or well air pow camp that the

745
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,400
Luftwaffer ran down mostly British, but British and American and

746
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,679
Canadian pilots mostly Britain in that but yeah, and it

747
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,039
was and they dug this like insane tunnel system and

748
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:17,800
a bunch of them got out, but didn't.

749
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,119
Speaker 3: A lot of them died though, too, right.

750
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,159
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, most of them got recaptured killed. Yeah, stars

751
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:24,239
a young John Hammond from Jurassic Park.

752
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: Oh, they crawled their way to freedom, and uh, they

753
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:32,119
almost make it all the way to the Baltic coast

754
00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:35,079
on foot. Because again, Germany not landlocked.

755
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:37,519
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's not.

756
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: There's a there's water by Germany that touches Germany.

757
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: Learned something new.

758
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on, I have to own that the rest

759
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,039
of my life. I thought Germany at one point was landlocked.

760
00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:52,119
Speaker 3: Is Germany not landlocked?

761
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: Not landlocked?

762
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,199
Speaker 3: Wait, it's what's near it? What ocean does it touch?

763
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,440
The Black Sea?

764
00:35:58,039 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: Baltic?

765
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the north, the north part of Germany touches

766
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,239
the Atlantic Ocean.

767
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: But they never talked about German beaches.

768
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: Come on, look, I'll be honest with you guys. It

769
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,440
feels like a landlocked Country's honest thought. And secondly, the

770
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:17,400
main reason that I personally know it's not landlocked, it's

771
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,400
just because I read history. I know that in World

772
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,320
War One and World War two.

773
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: I know they had the submarine, but they were block haaded,

774
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,360
like it specifically talked about how they were block hated. Well,

775
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,039
it's easy because it's only the north.

776
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it doesn't touch a lot of water.

777
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,599
Speaker 2: But people are like, oh, how could you not know

778
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:35,800
there's water that touches Germany. They have submarines. I'm like, yeah,

779
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,039
I think countries that are landlocked still have submarines.

780
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: Well, they also took over. They took over so many

781
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,719
other countries that you know, they could have sent them

782
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,280
from one of those. That's that's all I mean too, Man,

783
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,360
I'm with you. I thought I first, you know, in

784
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,840
my brain when I envisioned Germany, I think of a landlocked.

785
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think of water bodies. Yeah, but I'll

786
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:58,239
wear that like a scarlet letter for this podcast, scarlet

787
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,440
g Yeah, it is what it is. So they almost

788
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,239
get to the Baltic coast and they're recaptured by Germans

789
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,599
near the city of Rostock. He was then transferred to

790
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:14,400
a concentration camp in Austria. In late April nineteen forty five,

791
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,519
the camps power went out and Jack once again made

792
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:18,800
a break for it, climbing through a holy cut in

793
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,360
the fence.

794
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: They let him keep his sword, actually, and he just

795
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,320
swung right through the sliced right. He was a real

796
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,360
charmer of that guy, and they were just like, oh,

797
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:29,639
all right, you can keep your sword. It just fine,

798
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,440
you're a nice man.

799
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: After over a week, starving and out of it, walking

800
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:38,960
almost one hundred miles or so, he collapsed on the

801
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,639
side of the road and saw a few armored vehicles approaching,

802
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,280
fear and the worst. So, all right, I think they

803
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,000
finally got me.

804
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 3: But it was the Americans.

805
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,559
Speaker 2: It was to his luck, it was the American troops

806
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,159
and they actually broke the news to him that the

807
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,320
Germans had surrendered.

808
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, all that for nothing, you could just hung out.

809
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: After getting back home and recovering from his grueling last

810
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,760
few months of the war, Jack was ready to get

811
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,639
some in the Pacific, of.

812
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:09,159
Speaker 3: Course he was.

813
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: But as he was literally in the air to Burma,

814
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:15,599
the US drop fat man and little boy.

815
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: No, no, can you imagine what we were robbed of?

816
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:21,559
Sword fights?

817
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say it would have been a

818
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:24,480
sword on sword, yeah, action.

819
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,079
Speaker 1: That man could have taken his Scottish broadsword, probably shattered

820
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,440
like a fucking white walker. Whatever saber that was trying,

821
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:35,840
you know.

822
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, those little ceremonial bullshit things, little needles, and then

823
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,000
just run through. God damn it.

824
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 2: Jack stayed in the army after the war and qualified

825
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,880
as a parachute troop at the age of forty. He

826
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:56,760
even fought in British occupied Palestine to help establish Israel Colonizer.

827
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:03,239
He helped evacuate seven hundred medical professionals from the hospital

828
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,000
after an ambush by the Arab Higher Committee.

829
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy just wanted it.

830
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 3: When did the British have boots on ground in Palestine?

831
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 2: They essentially established since the Middle East?

832
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's World War One.

833
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I knew the Brits. It was the

834
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,199
British idea to start is.

835
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:25,519
Speaker 2: But like not even that, but the current well our

836
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:29,280
idea of what the Middle East is now was all

837
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,880
established by England for the most part.

838
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:34,679
Speaker 1: The Pike's pecos the same with Africa too, although I

839
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:36,079
believe they threw borders.

840
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:39,159
Speaker 3: Is the British did everything they did, those terrible borders.

841
00:39:39,519 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, but the British, the British took over

842
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,960
most of what the Ottomans controlled after the end of

843
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,800
World War One. Yeah, in terms of like Palestine might

844
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,039
have already had Egypt at that point, but yeah, a

845
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:51,800
lot of it was.

846
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and from what I understand they were it was

847
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:56,400
the Jews that were there, was like it was like

848
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,760
five hundred thousand Arabs, one hundred thousand Jews there after

849
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,519
what one and they were living in relative harmony. And

850
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:05,840
then after World War two and there's the millions of

851
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:08,480
Jewish that have Jewish people that have been displaced.

852
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,639
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't want to live anywhere but amongst

853
00:40:11,679 --> 00:40:13,119
my own people at one point.

854
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:18,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also like they're like America, England, Australia, all

855
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:20,639
the Allies were like we don't want all these Jews,

856
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,239
we don't want to take them in. And then England's like,

857
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,760
we have a great idea, let's send him to Israel.

858
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:28,079
And America's like, that's a great idea they have. You know,

859
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:29,840
that's a good place to get a foothold on that region.

860
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,400
They have a lot of oil there, and we got

861
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,840
a lot of Jews in America. We'll send them over there,

862
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,320
will make us thing called birthright, the little hooks.

863
00:40:35,079 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: As they're from there, Let's go fucking send them there.

864
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,199
It was actually our it was actually our back to

865
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,679
Africa plan, but for Jews.

866
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if we had just taken those Jews in

867
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,840
split them up amongst allies, the current situation in the

868
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,360
Middle East would not be so exhaustive.

869
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: It would be a shithole we don't care about.

870
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: We do care about. No, I mean, maybe they'd be

871
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,599
okay now, dud Palestine and Gaza. They at have beaches

872
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:01,119
I've heard of.

873
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: They do have nice beaches.

874
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: They have beautiful beaches.

875
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Mediterranean.

876
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:10,199
Speaker 2: People put a condo there, Yeah, build it up, let them,

877
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,639
let them get some tourism dollars.

878
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,039
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's Trump's whole plan, dude.

879
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:15,079
Speaker 2: You gotta build it up now.

880
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

881
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: There's nothing too, nothing.

882
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:21,519
Speaker 2: Left, nothing the salvage at this point. He then made

883
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:24,000
his way to Australia, where he served as an instructor

884
00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:26,800
at the Land Air Warfare School and picked up a

885
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,880
new hobby to get obsessed with for the remainder of

886
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,400
his days. Surfing.

887
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:34,039
Speaker 1: Oh. I wasn't gonna say hunting Aborigines, but he became

888
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:36,440
a surfer sounds about right.

889
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 3: That's fucking awesome.

890
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:40,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, surfing kind of dangerous, not easy.

891
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,199
Speaker 3: I went surfing in the Philippines was a lot of fun,

892
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,159
but they kind of like pushed me into the wave

893
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:47,280
and said stand up now. Like they helped me a lot. Yeah.

894
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: When I was in Hawaii my honeymoon, I walked up

895
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,079
to this surf shop at Art Hotel because there's like

896
00:41:52,119 --> 00:41:53,400
a beach right there and everything, you know. I was

897
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,559
like kind of drunk and I was like, the waves

898
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:56,599
are big that day. I was like, I want to

899
00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:59,039
try surfing, and the lady just looks at me and goes.

900
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 2: No, looked you up and down like.

901
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,639
Speaker 1: I was like, I like to run a surfboard and

902
00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:07,920
she goes, no, You're going to die, yeah, And I

903
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,159
was like what can I have? And she was like,

904
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:12,920
here's some boogie board. Literally, she gave me a boogie board.

905
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:16,599
I was like, you can keep the water wings out probably,

906
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:19,360
And then I got out by the way like four

907
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,239
feet into the water and was doing boogie boards a

908
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,400
little bit, and I like absolutely was flipped by a wave,

909
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,840
like I got hit by a wave and was off balance,

910
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,840
and then another even bigger one came in and like

911
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,400
Courtney was like, it sent you in the air, like

912
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,280
it you were airborne from that wave. And I was

913
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,519
like yeah, it felt like it. I'll just order another

914
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:42,840
my tie and stay in the cabana for the rest

915
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,079
of the day.

916
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: I used my body.

917
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 3: Body, I conquered the body.

918
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: Surfing is the only way to do it.

919
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:51,679
Speaker 3: That's what real men do, you know.

920
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:53,679
Speaker 2: I don't need no board.

921
00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:55,639
Speaker 1: And then they were like, you're not allowed back in

922
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,840
the water. Actually that revoked your my skin. And they

923
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,360
were like, don't go in the sun. Please stay in

924
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,519
the tent. We'll bring you all the drinks you want.

925
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:06,320
Don't leave to.

926
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,199
Speaker 2: Stay under the cabana.

927
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a high risk. I was like, we

928
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,079
got a high risk. Guess yeah.

929
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: I was like, that's fine, I want to anyway. Shut up.

930
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,519
Speaker 2: Jack then moved back to England and lived out the

931
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:20,599
remainder of his days in Surrey, where he died peacefully

932
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,440
in his home in nineteen ninety six. Damn, that's a

933
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,559
good long lie. I mean he was born in nineteen

934
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:27,199
oh six, So.

935
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,679
Speaker 1: Oh, nineteen o six. Okay, there he was born eighteen.

936
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,679
Speaker 2: Ninety six, I mean, no, nineteen oh six, okay.

937
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: So ninety it's a good run. Look, Amn, he's six

938
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:36,679
years older than my grandpa.

939
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,639
Speaker 2: You just got a sword right here, Yeah, we do.

940
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: Now that's no Scottish broad sword.

941
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: Now imagine going to battle with that though right now.

942
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: This isn't even close to how big his was.

943
00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: No, he's like literally two x that thing in width

944
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,039
and length. God damn it, he killed one with that

945
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:55,079
fucking sword.

946
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 2: Oh easily, you know, kind of disappointing. He gets to

947
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:03,000
kill with the arrow, yeah, but got the sword kill.

948
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: But and also even that too, like at that point,

949
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,239
I don't know when it happened, but let's just say

950
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,440
it happens in sicily, right, that's when he got in

951
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,239
hand to hand combat. It's nineteen forty three. You have

952
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,960
been spending, if you're a German, four years already in

953
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:20,840
the highest tech war in human history. To that point,

954
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,639
he went analog, he went he analog deleted a fucking

955
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,159
Nazi and again that Nazi just like has to get

956
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:31,480
slashed to be like, what the fuck?

957
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: Medic like, how do I deal with this?

958
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,559
Speaker 1: Debek doesn't know. We haven't come across this yet.

959
00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:39,679
Speaker 3: No, had no idea.

960
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,559
Speaker 2: He's there to stitch up a bullet wound, just cut down.

961
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 3: We don't have anything, just like I don't.

962
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, do you have a tetanus shot?

963
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I like, truly, it's honest. It's like an

964
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,800
insult to die that way, like to just be like,

965
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,800
how did your son die? It's like, well, no one

966
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,280
shot the guy with the sword for an hour because

967
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,440
they thought he was very funny. He fucking got me,

968
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,519
and he got close. Somehow we lost track of him.

969
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,920
No one was aiming at him. We lost track of him,

970
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,679
and he popped up from behind a wall and he

971
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,119
just slashed your fucking kid's head off, basically.

972
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:26,679
Speaker 2: And it wasn't one swoop, No he ACKed.

973
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't as strong as you would think. It's

974
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,119
not easy to cut a head off.

975
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: He's just like, God, why don't you just shoot me?

976
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: I don't think he had a lot of tools to

977
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:39,559
sharpen that sword could have been very do oh.

978
00:45:39,639 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

979
00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: But it is funny to me in a dark but

980
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:48,840
hilarious way that in the same war someone was killed

981
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,960
with a medieval weapon and a nuclear weapon.

982
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a great way to it.

983
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 2: Will never happen again, I don't think so.

984
00:45:59,079 --> 00:46:00,679
Speaker 1: I think that's the only I think.

985
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: He set that record. Yeah, what did you guys learn today?

986
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean I'd heard of this guy, and I knew,

987
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:14,920
like the really uh broad strokes. But what I mostly

988
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:21,079
learned is that much like Teddy Roosevelt, great to read about,

989
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:25,639
probably a fucking asshole, Like not not an asshole, but

990
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:26,880
like you don't want to hang with this guy.

991
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: I cannot.

992
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,599
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine the troops under him, who would

993
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:33,280
never be able to tell you because they're.

994
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 2: Allreadybe be great from morale. He's playing the bagpipes. Have

995
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,280
you ever had a bad time lessening the bagpipes?

996
00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: Uh?

997
00:46:39,559 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: No, I've enjoyed all the police officer funerals I've gone to.

998
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great time.

999
00:46:44,559 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm always just like stop it. I'm vibing too hard.

1000
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,519
My friend went and children are there.

1001
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 3: My friend went to Ireland one time and when you

1002
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,760
land in the plane, they're they're supposed to the plane

1003
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,440
is supposed to play bagpipes welcoming to the country. And

1004
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,800
the guy was like, the pilot was like, I'm supposed

1005
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,880
to play bagpipes since you're landing in Ireland, but I

1006
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,239
think they're instruments of torture, so I'm gonna play I'm

1007
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,519
gonna play YouTube instead.

1008
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:10,119
Speaker 1: That's not that's worse.

1009
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:18,199
Speaker 3: Just put on then, please get that. That's kind of good.

1010
00:47:18,679 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: None of the songs you're good.

1011
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,039
Speaker 3: I like Vertigo.

1012
00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: Anyone I'm mystified by anyone who like Bloody Sunday is

1013
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:24,199
all right.

1014
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,559
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone that likes you too.

1015
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't, well, no, because it's not our. It's not our.

1016
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,039
Speaker 3: They remember when they forced us to like you too,

1017
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:34,320
and they like our iPods just automatically came with a

1018
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,360
whole YouTube album. We're like, I don't want this, get

1019
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,920
it off, like you can't. You have to listen to

1020
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:38,400
YouTube now.

1021
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,559
Speaker 2: It's just like, I don't even think the older generation

1022
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,199
likes you too.

1023
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: No, there's like a weird hardcore love of YouTube from

1024
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:49,320
gen X, like they love them. It's like they're cold Play.

1025
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 3: Why do we like cold Play either? I like cold Play?

1026
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:56,400
Oh yeah, remember remember when we were dude, I kind

1027
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,079
of like cold Play too, Remember we were we were

1028
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:00,880
bowling two weeks ago, you Die, and they just played

1029
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,079
like ten cold Play songs in a row while we

1030
00:48:03,079 --> 00:48:03,519
were bowling.

1031
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:06,639
Speaker 2: Somebody put in like twenty dollars of cold Play into

1032
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:07,800
the fuck.

1033
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for one joke in forty year old virgin,

1034
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:12,440
no one would dislike Coldplay.

1035
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:13,159
Speaker 2: That's not true.

1036
00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: I know you're gay. You like Coldplay, that's it.

1037
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: The music is bad.

1038
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:18,599
Speaker 1: No, it's good. It's good music.

1039
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:23,119
Speaker 3: Clocks makes me emotional every time I hear it. I

1040
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:29,519
get goosebumps. Legitimately good good music. Except I don't like

1041
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:31,440
Viva Leavita or any of that era. I like their

1042
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,880
older shit. I like Rush, you know, I like this.

1043
00:48:34,119 --> 00:48:38,360
I like the Scientist, I like I think it's exactly

1044
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,119
then you know, I'll try to fix.

1045
00:48:41,039 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: The Saxon Why great album, yeah.

1046
00:48:43,159 --> 00:48:46,639
Speaker 3: Grin, I didn't like Viva LaVita as much. It's fair,

1047
00:48:47,159 --> 00:48:50,320
it's fair. But then they but then it's overproduced. Yes,

1048
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,320
but I also but then, in like the early twenty

1049
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,000
tens when I was in college, they had that video

1050
00:48:54,039 --> 00:48:57,519
with all the monkeys dancing, the CGI monkeys dancing. That

1051
00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:58,360
was a good one too.

1052
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 2: I learned. Do you guys like Coldplay today?

1053
00:49:03,039 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: Good?

1054
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,639
Speaker 1: Uh boush what you learn today?

1055
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I learned all that. I just thought

1056
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,599
that I learned. This guy was like I saw the

1057
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:16,239
photos and you know, the the memes on you know,

1058
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,559
the quick one post things the same on social media

1059
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:20,599
of that guy. There's a photo of him like storming

1060
00:49:20,639 --> 00:49:22,400
the beach with a fucking sword and you're like, that

1061
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,760
guy's so awesome. I learned that he was a bit,

1062
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,000
you know, kind of a got all those guys killed

1063
00:49:28,039 --> 00:49:30,239
because he was all those guys killed.

1064
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 2: They were getting shelled anyway.

1065
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,079
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, you're gonna get shot at no

1066
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:35,719
matter what play.

1067
00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 3: But if you get if if six, if like two

1068
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,239
out of six, like I feel like you fucked up.

1069
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,559
You should have pulled back or something.

1070
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: He was in command. Well there's only six guys left,

1071
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,840
and you're still like keep going for an island that,

1072
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:58,039
by the way, was not important. Yeah, this wasn't Iwjima, right, Yeah,

1073
00:49:58,079 --> 00:50:00,360
it wasn't like they needed to build an air field

1074
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,320
on this island.

1075
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:03,079
Speaker 2: To bomb the homes in Yugoslavia.

1076
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: It was not a military necessity.

1077
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: It was just.

1078
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:12,159
Speaker 1: I Today's Hitler for me, is the main character, the

1079
00:50:12,199 --> 00:50:15,519
protagonist was hit Churchill as Hitler today, not that Churchill.

1080
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,719
And I know that's a popular take now that Churchill

1081
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,039
is the real Hitler, the real bad guy. Not a

1082
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:24,039
good take, not a good take, Jesus Christ. But this

1083
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:26,559
Churchill is my Hitler today.

1084
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1085
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: I just don't think. Look, he's a great here's the

1086
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:38,280
thing he's a great soldier, unquestionably, I wonder if maybe

1087
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,159
I need to read more. But I'm not convinced he's

1088
00:50:40,159 --> 00:50:42,039
a great officer.

1089
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 3: I would not have wanted him as my officer. I

1090
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,679
would one of the guys like, okay, we're like all dying,

1091
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,280
let's get the fuck out of here. I wouldn't want

1092
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:47,920
the guy that's.

1093
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,119
Speaker 2: Like hold firm biz and especially I guess it is

1094
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,400
very Hitler though, to invite a German officer for dinner

1095
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,079
after the war.

1096
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, it was an officer, probably

1097
00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:02,719
the s S or something. If he's in charge of

1098
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,199
taking a Churchill back to Berlin. Yeah, that guy's got

1099
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,960
a fucking skull on his hat.

1100
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy. That guy fucking gasped a hell of people.

1101
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: This this man received several awards, good bloke, several medals.

1102
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: That's fine, great soldier, I'm not I'm not denying that

1103
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:22,239
great soldier, incredible soldier. Also not sure she'd being.

1104
00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 2: Commanded from the diary of that from Dunkirk, They're like, oh,

1105
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,880
the morale of the boys was lifted seeing him just

1106
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,039
cruise on his motorcycle with a bow and arrow.

1107
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,039
Speaker 1: And that feels like something I need to be there.

1108
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,840
I need to be there to see it. I need

1109
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,159
to be there to see how many people under their

1110
00:51:38,199 --> 00:51:40,440
breasts were like, ay.

1111
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 3: Fucking count he was so absurd, Like they couldn't show

1112
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,280
him in like you know, the movie Dunkirk. They couldn't.

1113
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,760
We can't show that. That's like too unrealistic, you can't.

1114
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,000
It was.

1115
00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: Nolan was like that, he's gotta get cut. Harry Styles

1116
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,159
just starts cheering because a madman on a motorcycle with

1117
00:51:57,199 --> 00:51:59,679
a bow and arrow fucking bolts by like he's fucking

1118
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:03,039
Captain in America doing nothing. By the way, he's just

1119
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:04,480
going for a leisure ride.

1120
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: He's just hyping the boys up. He's keeping them more up.

1121
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:08,000
You know.

1122
00:52:08,519 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: I also learned today that it's very easy to make

1123
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:12,519
the movie business in Kenya.

1124
00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:15,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't shock me. I guess it's not a

1125
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,239
I mean, it's why are you running?

1126
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 3: Why are you? I have not seen that. It's like this,

1127
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:24,480
just look. I'm sure you'll find it at some point.

1128
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,760
But there's some very funny clips of like Kenyan movies

1129
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:29,760
or these deep African.

1130
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,039
Speaker 1: It is always funny to think how every country has

1131
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:36,440
its own Hollywood two degree, but they all have their

1132
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,000
own film industry. It's not like it's not like Kenya

1133
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:42,000
is just like when's the nextive, next Avengers come out?

1134
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,079
Because we don't make anything, you know what I mean,

1135
00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:45,039
Like they make movies.

1136
00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like you think Fiji's making movies.

1137
00:52:48,159 --> 00:52:51,079
Speaker 1: No, some places aren't making movies, but most Kenya is

1138
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:54,440
a huge country, too huge. So like, yeah, they have

1139
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,800
their own film film situation.

1140
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:01,639
Speaker 2: They're certainly waiting for those America movie So also, yeah,

1141
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,320
certainly the.

1142
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 3: Part where the gay characters are cut out, you know,

1143
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,559
there's just like thirty minutes removed. Yeah, now we're just

1144
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:13,039
at the point where we're just not gonna show that

1145
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:15,599
stuff because the Chinese won't. The Chinese won't like it.

1146
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:17,039
Marvel's not gonna put it in the movie.

1147
00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: Call Me by Your Name is actually just a TikTok

1148
00:53:19,039 --> 00:53:24,880
and in Kenya, in China, it's just a three minute situation.

1149
00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:27,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, that whole movie you got to get cut. There's

1150
00:53:27,039 --> 00:53:27,400
actually it.

1151
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: You just can't send it because there's not a frame

1152
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,719
of that movie that isn't gay. But like Timothy, Timothy

1153
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,159
Shalame is just not allowed to be shown in China.

1154
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:38,639
It's too gay for the whole Yeah, too much of

1155
00:53:38,639 --> 00:53:40,599
a twink. Yeah yeah, like no, he loves the Knicks.

1156
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:43,039
Remember Stephan Marburry he played here like too gay, don't

1157
00:53:43,159 --> 00:53:43,599
I don't care.

1158
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: It's King Henry the Fifth.

1159
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 3: Like he did it gay anyway.

1160
00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: That is our episode on Mad Lad Jack Churchill.

1161
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 3: Thank you for your service.

1162
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: Thank you to UH Houston again for the flag, for

1163
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,800
the flag and the certificate. We will put it on

1164
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,280
set after the show ends, and it will be there.

1165
00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:08,760
I don't know until we quit in five weeks. I

1166
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,639
guess like this show.

1167
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,079
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, you're quitting in five weeks.

1168
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,199
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying we just joke about, like how

1169
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:18,400
long are we supposed to do it?

1170
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,159
Speaker 3: And you guys are getting bigger and bigger.

1171
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: No not, well, share it with your friends, then.

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Speaker 3: Share with your friends, but you can subscribe.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for first join.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you guys should get a girl with big titties.

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That might help.

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Speaker 1: Hey, my wife was on last week. You're right, her

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tittes wen't big enough.

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Speaker 2: I think you need silicone.

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Speaker 1: I should have forced her breastfeed.

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Speaker 3: Just get a stripper or something.

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Speaker 1: It's the only way. The episodes with women always do

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well on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: The episode that's done the best is uh, somebody with boobies.

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Speaker 1: Oh, don't do Jack like that. Jack's episode did the

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best don't do jackline.

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Speaker 2: He's a marine, dammit.

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Speaker 1: Oh we love him.

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Speaker 2: I love Jack.

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Speaker 3: I know he would.

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Speaker 1: He would, he would, he would say that he has Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he would make that joke too, And he's listening

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right now. And I love you Jack.

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Speaker 1: We love you Jack.

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Speaker 2: But we next time we have you on, he maybe

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show a little more cleavage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, put it out there, tie up. Sure, he's not

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shy about it.

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Speaker 3: No, let those puppies breathe for the content.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Bosh, dude, where can the people

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find you?

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Speaker 3: Always happy to be here at What's Up? Boosh? On

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all the socials, I post memes.

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Speaker 1: And good memes. He used to make our memes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I made memes for them from anymore? Yeah too expensive?

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Well maybe if you guys fucking share this with your friends,

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I can make memes for them again. They'll have more

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money again.

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Speaker 2: Check out Pature on pitch on dot com, last Software

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History two additional episodes every week Wednesday and Friday. And

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Yeah boys, always a pleasure always for our fox In

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Alex Buscemi, I'm Damma Chester and you just got saw

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served