1 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Petlife Radio dot com. 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,679 Speaker 2: Welcome to Animal Rights on pet Life Radio. I'm your host, 3 00:00:12,679 --> 00:00:15,720 Tim Link. Thank you for joining us today. My guest 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,440 today is going to be Glenn Plaskin. You know, we're 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,519 talking with us today about recently released book Katie Up 6 00:00:21,519 --> 00:00:24,160 and Down the Hall, a true story of how one 7 00:00:24,199 --> 00:00:27,839 dog turned five neighbors into a family, which is a 8 00:00:27,839 --> 00:00:31,320 true story about Glenn's own dog, Katie and how she 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,920 basically brought five neighbors together. So we're going be talking 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,479 to Glenn about Katie Up and Down the Hall here 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,520 in just a moment. But first I want to talk 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,359 to you a little bit about it. You know I 13 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:43,320 always like giving you helpful hints and tips and stories. Well, 14 00:00:43,359 --> 00:00:45,359 get a little tip for you today. You may already 15 00:00:45,359 --> 00:00:47,479 know about it, You may already have one in your 16 00:00:47,679 --> 00:00:50,920 life or your animal's life. But we talked about holistic 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,119 alternatives holistic veterinarians in particular. You know, there's a wonderful 18 00:00:55,159 --> 00:00:58,840 healing way to improve the lives of your dogs and 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,200 your cats and your their animals, help them obtain relaxing 20 00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:07,000 and holistic treatments and approach, and that's by finding a 21 00:01:07,079 --> 00:01:11,439 holistic veterinarian. Now, holistic veterinarian is a veterinarian like any 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,519 other veterinarian. They receive the same training and have the 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,840 same credentials as a traditional veterinarian. So they're DVMS like 24 00:01:19,879 --> 00:01:23,120 any other veterinarian. But the main difference is they continue 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:28,840 their education by receiving certification and additional holistic modalities. Now 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,319 these are things like they provide chiropractic care for your animals, acupuncture. 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,840 They will recommend supplements instead of medications or in addition 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,599 to medications. They'll talk to you about nutrition, wholesome nutrition 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,680 for your animal. They offer pet massage, acupressure, acupuncture as 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,359 I mentioned before, so a whole host of alternatives that 31 00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:54,120 can either supplement whatever a traditional veterinarian would offer for 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,159 your pet, to provide healing and provide a great relaxation 33 00:01:59,239 --> 00:02:03,040 for your animal, or actually as an additional complement to 34 00:02:03,159 --> 00:02:06,599 the whole purpose. So I always recommend having a holistic 35 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,840 veterinarian on hand, either as your main veterinarian or as 36 00:02:09,879 --> 00:02:14,319 a secondary veterinarian. Now, Holstic veterinary medicine therefore refers you 37 00:02:14,599 --> 00:02:17,719 to the treatment of the whole organism rather than the 38 00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:21,719 treatment of an individual body part or simpler to removal 39 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,400 of the symptoms. So they're going to be looking for 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,520 the whole purpose how they can treat your animal's wholeness, 41 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,520 not only for a particular illness or an injury, but 42 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:33,439 actually have a whole, complete life by introducing these holistic 43 00:02:33,479 --> 00:02:36,479 alternatives and modalities. So to find out more about holistic 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,479 veterinarians and the various modalities that are considered holistic, and 45 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,319 to find one in your area where you're living, please 46 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,240 go to my blog on pet Life Radio. Click on 47 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:50,759 the Animal Rights blog at petlifradio dot com and from 48 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,759 there you can click to a link that will lead 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,879 you to the AHVMA website which is called Holistic Vetlist 50 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,400 dot com and you can type in your zip code 51 00:02:59,439 --> 00:03:02,159 and it will help you locate the nearest holistic veterinarian 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,159 in your area. So I think it's a great alternative. 53 00:03:05,199 --> 00:03:07,680 I always recommend at least having a host of veterinarian 54 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:10,400 in addition to your traditional veterinarian look for some more 55 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,479 holistic and natural approaches to having your animal have a 56 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,879 great life. So check it out. 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He's written numerous numerous columns and has 107 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,120 appeared in many well known newspapers and magazines. Glenn has 108 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,279 also appeared multiple times on television on shows like Oprah, 109 00:06:41,519 --> 00:06:44,879 Today's Show, Larry King Live. He's everywhere. He's a great 110 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,399 guy to talk to you, and we're gonna talk definitely 111 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:48,399 about this book, Katie Up and Down the Hall. So 112 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,360 Glenn Plaskin, Welcome to Animal Rights on pet Life Radio. 113 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 9: Good afternoon, How are you today? 114 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic. How about yourself? 115 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,519 Speaker 9: And Happy New Year? Do you both? 116 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: Happy New Year? Can believe it? It's twenty eleven. It's 117 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:02,279 and you know I haven't made a mistake in writing 118 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,319 a check or type in an email by putting twenty eleven. 119 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:08,000 I did have a good friend of mine on Year's 120 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,279 Day send me a text wish me a happy twenty twelve. 121 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 9: So it's a little ahead of the game. 122 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,639 Speaker 2: A little head of the game. I don't know if 123 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,120 she's just writing this year off and looking forward to 124 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,560 next or not, but I think it's a little too 125 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,399 early to do that. It's going to be a great year. 126 00:07:21,519 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 9: I always get used to the new year, and by 127 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,079 the end of the year, I'm all ready and then 128 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,000 of course now here we are. It's an odd number year, 129 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,319 but hopefully it'll be a good one for everybody. 130 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it will. I think there's some great 131 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,160 stuff going on. So we want to talk about all 132 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,519 the great stuff happening in your life as well, but 133 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,399 in particular when I talk about this wonderful, wonderful book, 134 00:07:39,639 --> 00:07:41,959 Katie Up and Down the Hall. So tell us a 135 00:07:41,959 --> 00:07:43,680 little bit about Katie Up and Down the Hall and 136 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:44,839 what prompted you to write it. 137 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 9: Well, the book is about my dog, Katie, who's a 138 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,839 Cocker Spaniel. I never expected to ever write a book 139 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,240 about either my life or about my dog, but something 140 00:07:55,319 --> 00:08:00,160 really miraculous happened. It first appeared as an article and 141 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Family Circle magazine. And what the story is really about. 142 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,199 It's about a little boy who has no mom, but 143 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,759 he has a dad. And then further down the hallway 144 00:08:08,759 --> 00:08:11,120 where we live here in New York City and Battery 145 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,519 Park City, which is right across the street from the 146 00:08:13,519 --> 00:08:16,079 World Trade Center. We live in this thirty five story 147 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,920 high rise. So on one end of the hallways this 148 00:08:17,959 --> 00:08:20,279 little boy and his dad, and in the middle of 149 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:23,000 the hallway is an eighty five year old woman and 150 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,279 her husband, and then on the other end is me 151 00:08:26,519 --> 00:08:30,279 and Katie. And over a period of fifteen years, the 152 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,720 book traces our many adventures from Hollywood high times to 153 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,120 the tragic days of nine to eleven, from accidents and 154 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,360 accidents of fate, to physical illness, to great moments of 155 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,759 happiness and times of great sadness and loss. So it's 156 00:08:48,759 --> 00:08:53,759 a very emotional, dramatic story and that's basically what it's about. 157 00:08:53,879 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: And I think the topic is fascinating as well, because unfortunately, 158 00:08:57,039 --> 00:08:59,600 in today's society, and I'm sure it's that way where 159 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,080 you're at, we often do get to know our neighbors. 160 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,200 We live by them for years and years and years, 161 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,799 and unlike I know the days when I was growing up, 162 00:09:06,799 --> 00:09:09,480 where everybody knew their neighbors, nowadays we're lucky just to 163 00:09:09,799 --> 00:09:11,000 wave high and say hello. 164 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 9: Well you're right in fact, isn't it ironic? That in 165 00:09:13,639 --> 00:09:16,360 an age when we have Twitter and Facebook and computers 166 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,519 and email, all of these technologies are supposed to bring 167 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,039 us closer and make us in better communication. But in 168 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:27,240 many ways of those things sometimes alienate us and isolate us. 169 00:09:27,759 --> 00:09:32,600 And I believe that your family is not just your 170 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,080 biological family, but it can be your surrogate family of 171 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,080 anything you want it to be. It can be old 172 00:09:39,159 --> 00:09:42,679 and young, it can be canine, human, it can be 173 00:09:42,759 --> 00:09:45,639 your neighbors. And I always tell people, if you just 174 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:48,759 open your eyes and walk outside your door, all the 175 00:09:48,799 --> 00:09:53,240 people around you have the potential of becoming members of 176 00:09:53,279 --> 00:09:55,639 your family. Somebody who I interviewed once told me that 177 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,840 proximity is the messenger of fate, meaning whoever you're close 178 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:03,840 to geographically is so often the people you'd become emotionally 179 00:10:03,879 --> 00:10:07,720 close to. And in my case, each one of us 180 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:11,120 along this long hallway was able to fulfill a need. 181 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,200 After all, the little boy had no mom and no grandparents, 182 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,480 so he found a grandmother in Pearl, who was the 183 00:10:17,519 --> 00:10:20,759 heroine of the book, and she had never been able 184 00:10:20,799 --> 00:10:23,639 to have children. So here it is so late in life, 185 00:10:23,639 --> 00:10:25,440 in her eighties, and she was finally able to have 186 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,759 a child in a way. And my dog, of course, Katie, 187 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,440 was always ready for action of any kind, and she 188 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:36,679 would race up and down the hallway with that little 189 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,480 boy Ryan and have a ball. In fact, the reason 190 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:41,279 I called it Katie up and down the hall is 191 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,759 the hallway becomes like a metaphor for the connection between 192 00:10:45,759 --> 00:10:49,200 those three apartments. She would literally push open the doors. 193 00:10:49,639 --> 00:10:51,679 We would leave our doors open and she'd push them 194 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,240 open with her paws, and she'd go in one apartment 195 00:10:54,639 --> 00:10:57,399 to herd the people in that apartment down the hall 196 00:10:57,399 --> 00:10:59,759 into the other one for dinner or for whatever we 197 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:03,039 were doing. So the dog actually was the you could 198 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,559 call her the mistress of ceremonies. 199 00:11:07,399 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: And bringing everybody together. 200 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 9: Well, you know, dogs had that ability, and she had 201 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,879 her own needs which were for every dog wants companionship 202 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,840 and fun and recreation, and all of us together were 203 00:11:19,879 --> 00:11:22,200 able to give her something that one of us alone 204 00:11:22,279 --> 00:11:22,879 could never do. 205 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:25,279 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, And I think it's a key point, 206 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,840 you know, when you think about it, seems so simple. 207 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,639 A dog brought everybody together. But you know, like we'd 208 00:11:30,639 --> 00:11:32,960 said before, there's a good chance that you probably wouldn't 209 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,679 have known those people were not known them very well. 210 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,919 At least or knew that they needed a family for 211 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,240 the little boy, or grandmother for the little boy, et cetera. 212 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,519 Speaker 9: And maybe it was because Katie got so much attention 213 00:11:44,039 --> 00:11:47,440 that she became quite a remarkable little dog. I mean, 214 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,639 she was super smart. One day, she was watching television 215 00:11:51,639 --> 00:11:54,039 and she would watch how Pearl would change channels with 216 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,159 a remote. And on another day I found her literally 217 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,600 taking her paw and tapping the remote control to change 218 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,879 the TV channel. And she got to the point where 219 00:12:02,879 --> 00:12:05,440 she could actually do it. And for some reason, she'd 220 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,039 always stop at the food channel, of course, and she 221 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,799 would watch me type at my computer keyboard, and one 222 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,639 day I found her up on my desk chair knocking 223 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,480 her paws up against the keyboard and when it became 224 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:20,879 a game where I would make the font like seventy 225 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:23,600 two points, you know, really big, and she would actually 226 00:12:23,639 --> 00:12:27,799 watch herself type. And she also accompanied me on many 227 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,960 of my celebrity interviews. She was a great little icebreaker. 228 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,039 I would take her to oh I took her to 229 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:39,159 Bette Midler's for an interview, Peter Jennings, Catherine Hepburn, Sarah Fawcett, 230 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,000 Avanna Trump. She went all over the place with me, 231 00:12:42,519 --> 00:12:46,399 mostly to California, and I found that a dog was 232 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,320 really an equalizer, you know. You I would often be 233 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,360 nervous before I would be interviewing these famous people. And 234 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:55,399 there's a chapter in the book called Prancing with the Stars, 235 00:12:55,879 --> 00:12:59,200 and it's about Katie's adventures with these famous people. 236 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, when you look at the grand 237 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,200 scope of that, you know, yes, it was fun to 238 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,960 have Katie there. They enjoyed her, You enjoyed her. She 239 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,519 was a great ice breaker, but you know she actually 240 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:10,720 helped you do your work. 241 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:14,759 Speaker 9: Well, yes, I found it enjoyable to have a dog. 242 00:13:14,799 --> 00:13:16,759 I would take her to the office and she would 243 00:13:16,759 --> 00:13:18,480 just sit near me. You know, it's been proven that 244 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:23,639 animals do reduce anxiety and stress. They lower your blood pressure, 245 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,879 they increase the endorphin level, they slow the pulse. That's 246 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:30,559 why dogs are used as therapy dogs. And dogs are 247 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,919 really great not only companions, but they do have a 248 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,679 physiological effect on their owners and probably vice versa. So 249 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,519 I was very grateful to have a canine companion, which 250 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,440 is sometimes more relaxing than having a human companion. 251 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,639 Speaker 2: Oftentiys, we're relaxing, absolutely. 252 00:13:50,159 --> 00:13:50,759 Speaker 9: You know what I mean. 253 00:13:50,799 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: For stylers. 254 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 9: They can't talk. 255 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Yeah, and my wife's not in 256 00:13:55,279 --> 00:13:57,240 the studio right now, so I can say those things. 257 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,639 All right. Fantastic, every we're talking to Glenn Plaskin here. 258 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,600 We're going to take a commercial break to thank our sponsors. 259 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:07,360 But everybody, stay tuned. 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This is the place for a 301 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:09,680 special puff bar Rozi Treed only on pet Live Radio, 302 00:17:10,039 --> 00:17:11,200 dot cob. 303 00:17:15,519 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: Let's Talk, past, Let's done, Petal, pet Life. 304 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:22,039 Speaker 3: Radio, Headline Radio, Petlight Radio, Dot. 305 00:17:21,799 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: Cob Okay, welcome back, Welcome back to animal rights on 306 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:31,839 pet Life Radio. When you're talking to Glenn Plaskin in 307 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,240 particular about his book Katie Up and Down the Hall, 308 00:17:34,799 --> 00:17:37,440 The true story of how one dog turned five neighbors 309 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,839 into a family, you know, Glenn, I want to ask 310 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,640 you this book. It's such a touching story, it's great 311 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,160 lessons in here. What other plans do you have for 312 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,319 the book? Are there additional books coming out or is 313 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,400 there a movie in the works. 314 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 9: Possibly, Well, the book is going to be coming out 315 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,920 in paperback next September. We're still doing events. We had 316 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,359 some great events this fall. We had a launch party 317 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,200 hosted by Calvin Klein and but like Judge Judy were 318 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,279 at the party, and then we had a Barnes and 319 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:07,319 Noble book reading February fourteenth. We're having a Borders book 320 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,839 reading and my agent has been in the process of 321 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,640 selling it as a movie. And one reason why is 322 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,440 because the book really isn't just about a dog. It 323 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,279 would be kind of boring if it was just about 324 00:18:20,279 --> 00:18:22,440 a dog's you know, running up and down a hall. 325 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,319 That's not what it's really about. It's about the relationships 326 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,599 that developed over a period of sixteen years between my 327 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:34,079 dog and her older friend Pearl, between my dog and 328 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,559 her husband Arthur, between the dog and the little boy Ryan, 329 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,079 and so many things happen over those years. As you know, 330 00:18:42,079 --> 00:18:44,319 people come, and they go, and they get sick, and 331 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,359 without giving away what happens in the book, one of 332 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,319 the most dramatic moments are the days of nine to eleven. 333 00:18:52,759 --> 00:18:54,599 As you know, we only live a couple hundred yards 334 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,359 away from the World Trade Center, and on that particular 335 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,559 day we were all home. There's three or four chapters 336 00:19:01,559 --> 00:19:03,839 in the book that talk about what happened on that day, 337 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,839 which was of course difficult for everyone. 338 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, and I think the message is true. I 339 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,279 mean it's for me, having a great, cute book about 340 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:14,960 a funny animal that does funny things is good enough 341 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,440 for me. But then you tie in the overall message 342 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,440 of how you know, one dog we can have a 343 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,200 great life with, and in addition, bring together all the neighbors, 344 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,640 all the people that have now become our family. And 345 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,720 how many people do you know nowadays that you communicate 346 00:19:28,759 --> 00:19:31,720 with that you communicate with fifteen years ago. 347 00:19:32,039 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 9: Well, it's really kind of a love story. I remember 348 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,079 one of the vignettes that's in the book that I 349 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,559 like most. There comes a point in the story where 350 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:42,119 I get physically sick with a back issue, and I'm 351 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,519 literally unable to walk, and my friend Pearl, who was 352 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:48,920 a good cook, would have picnics on my bed, and 353 00:19:49,079 --> 00:19:52,680 attending these picnics would be, of course, my dog and 354 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,319 the little boy would race in from school and we 355 00:19:55,319 --> 00:19:58,640 would all eat in the bedroom. We're on the bed together. 356 00:19:58,839 --> 00:20:01,920 That was just one little vignette. Imagine if you didn't 357 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,440 have a dog, or you didn't have people right down 358 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,440 the hall to help you. You might have a mother 359 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:08,759 or a father, or a brother or a sister, but 360 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:11,519 they may not be in the same city. But in 361 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:15,039 this book, you know, we made a family from what 362 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,720 started as strangers, and then we became friends, neighbors, and 363 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:23,039 ultimately a family. And when any of us have difficulty 364 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,359 in the story, the other ones rally around and help 365 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,519 the other ones get through it. 366 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,319 Speaker 2: Absolutely. And you'd mentioned a little bit earlier about you 367 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,079 know the healing effects of animals, and I would have 368 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,920 to say, you could say that Katie helped you heal 369 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:38,240 from having that back injury. 370 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,039 Speaker 9: Oh. Yes, After there comes a point in this story 371 00:20:41,079 --> 00:20:44,160 where I lose my job for a while, I lose 372 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:49,160 my health, and I'm really quite depressed. And it was 373 00:20:49,279 --> 00:20:53,319 during that few year period that I think my love 374 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,599 for my dog became even greater, because up until that point, 375 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,039 I was so consumed with my career and so busy 376 00:21:01,279 --> 00:21:06,720 that I don't think I fully appreciated her ability to love. 377 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,559 But once I spent more and more time with her, 378 00:21:09,599 --> 00:21:11,920 you know, I really do believe that dogs have souls. 379 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,680 Just look into their eyes. They may not be able 380 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,599 to speak, but they definitely have intuitions and feelings and 381 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:24,920 reactions to everything. And I think that Katie's sensitivity to 382 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,640 not only me, but she was especially good friends with 383 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,279 the older you were, the more she liked you. If 384 00:21:31,319 --> 00:21:33,319 you were eighty, that was good, if you were ninety, 385 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,519 that was better. And so she had a whole coterie 386 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,000 of these eighty and ninety year old friends that she 387 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,680 would go out with every night along the Hudson River 388 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,400 here and I would sometimes be riding my bike, and 389 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,000 my dog would be with my friend Pearl, the older woman, 390 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,160 And there was my dog sitting on a wheelchair with 391 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,160 a woman who couldn't walk, looking out at the Hudson River, 392 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,000 at the sun setting, happy and contented as could be, 393 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,880 surrounded by her older friends. 394 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: There you go, yeah, and I totally agree with you. 395 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,839 They definitely have souls. They have that intuition, They know 396 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,599 what to do, they know when to do it, and 397 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,960 I do believe they are the great healers and great 398 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,079 teachers in our lives. 399 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 9: They know when you're in pain. There's one point in 400 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,640 the story where my mother loses her husband and my 401 00:22:16,759 --> 00:22:19,839 dog climbs up on my mother's chest and just sleeps 402 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,240 against her and licks her face, and somehow she senses 403 00:22:23,279 --> 00:22:26,839 that my mother's in pain and that she needs comforting. So, 404 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,119 you know, that's a wonderful thing. 405 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely. Now I know you have a new girl 406 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,599 in your life, new Cocker Spaniel named Lucy. 407 00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 9: Yes, she's actually in my arms at this moment. 408 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: There you go, helping you do that work, or at 409 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,519 least waiting for the next treat. One of the two. 410 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 9: Lucy is ten months old. She's completely different than Katie's 411 00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:53,000 Katie was not crazy about other dogs. Truthfully speaking, that's 412 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,319 probably my fault. If I could give any advice to 413 00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:59,079 dog owners with puppies from eight or ten weeks on, 414 00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:02,799 get your dog outside playing with other dogs, because that's 415 00:23:02,839 --> 00:23:05,799 something I didn't do with Katie was an inside kind 416 00:23:05,839 --> 00:23:11,200 of human dog. But Lucy loves other dogs. She's highly athletic. 417 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,039 It doesn't matter whether they're big or small. The other night, 418 00:23:14,079 --> 00:23:17,559 there was a ninety five pound Alaskan Husky and she 419 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,480 got a hold of his tail and this dog was 420 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:22,079 whirling her around and she was literally in the air 421 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:25,599 and wouldn't let go. She thought it was fun, and 422 00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:29,160 she's a very smart dog. She's also a blonde haired 423 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,640 Cocker Spaniel, but she is different in personality than Katie. 424 00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:37,000 She's probably more independent and more athletic. 425 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: There you go. Obviously, you have a fondness for Cocker Spaniels, 426 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,799 just like I have a fondness for Schnauzers because I've 427 00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:46,880 got my boys in my life. But did you do 428 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,079 a lot of research about Cocker Spaniels before deciding bringing 429 00:23:50,079 --> 00:23:53,559 that particular breed in or was it just a connection 430 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,480 that you had with them? 431 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,519 Speaker 9: No, As I explained in the book. Actually the thing 432 00:23:57,559 --> 00:24:00,400 that got me interested in Cocker spaniels were too things. 433 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,240 It was mostly those long ears. I love these long, 434 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,720 tendulous ears, and I talk about the ears in the book, 435 00:24:08,599 --> 00:24:12,799 and it's also there's something soulful about those eyes. They're 436 00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:17,000 usually brown. But it was mostly the ears. And the 437 00:24:17,079 --> 00:24:19,720 size was a good size for me, around twenty five 438 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,759 pounds or so, and so I just kind of fell 439 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:25,960 into it. Although I you know, I'm fond of all dogs, 440 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,920 but cocker spaniels were just something that I kind of 441 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,359 fell into. And they're smart. They're probably not as smart 442 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,400 as I hear that German shepherds and terriers what are 443 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,400 those called, Jack Russell terriers are supposed to be extremely 444 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,480 in Poodles are the three most intelligent. But of course 445 00:24:44,519 --> 00:24:47,960 we all think our dog is the smartest exactly. 446 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,799 Speaker 2: I think most of us would. I think most of 447 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,279 us would. 448 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 9: Katie was certainly much smarter than any other dog in 449 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,359 the world. 450 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,839 Speaker 2: But that's right, not only by the things that she did, 451 00:24:57,039 --> 00:24:59,319 but also, you know, just her overall. She knew that 452 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,119 was important to bring everybody together, and that's a great 453 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,359 legacy to leave behind. 454 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:05,759 Speaker 9: And by the way, if any of your listeners would 455 00:25:05,839 --> 00:25:10,920 enjoy seeing some pictures of Katie. We created a book trailer. 456 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,640 It's like a little motion picture preview, and if you 457 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,480 go to my website, which is katiebook dot com, just 458 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:20,240 click on a button that says watch the trailer and 459 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,000 it captures in four minutes the essence of the story. 460 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So everybody go to katiebook dot com, k T 461 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,359 I E b o ok dot com, check out the book, 462 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,400 check out the trailer for sure. It's great website, great 463 00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:36,880 and obviously a great book. Now, one thing we mentioned earlier, 464 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,240 Obviously you have interviewed a ton of celebrities in your life, 465 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,240 and obviously some of them have graced the cover of 466 00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:47,519 this book, people like Joan Rivers and Judge Judy, Mariah Carey, 467 00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:51,920 Anthony Robbins, Betty White, a whole host of them. Does 468 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,920 any of them remind you of Katie? 469 00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:00,599 Speaker 9: Well, I wouldn't want to compare a celebrity with dog. 470 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,920 Although some of them may be doggish. You know, most 471 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,559 of the people who endorsed my book and read it 472 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,279 are dog lovers, like the novelist Barbara Taylor Bradford. She 473 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,960 is a great dog lover. Joan Rivers loves dogs, Mariah 474 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,839 Carey is very devoted to her dogs. Betty White, of course, 475 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,880 is known as a great dog lover. And all of 476 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,359 these people I've interviewed over the years about their movies 477 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,640 or TV shows or their lives. I never expected that 478 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,759 years later I would come back to them and ask 479 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:35,920 them for a favor, which was will you read my 480 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,799 book and will you write me something about it? But 481 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,720 I can't tell you how really touching it was that 482 00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:44,640 people would take the time to read the book and 483 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,160 to genuinely get into it. You know, Judge Judy loves 484 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,319 dogs and she was at the launch party, and Calvin 485 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,200 Klein has two dogs, and it's just a dog eat 486 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,160 dog world out there. 487 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,759 Speaker 2: It is nice, heartwarming. And when you get authors and 488 00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:05,200 other professional celebrities, etc. Not only need to give you 489 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,240 endorsement because that helps, but they took the time to 490 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,160 actually to read the book and give an honest comment 491 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,000 and commitment to the book, And it just shows you 492 00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:14,880 how great the book. Katie Up and Down the Hall 493 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:15,799 is well. 494 00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 9: I think there's something in if you look at the 495 00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:21,440 cover of the book, look at Katie's face, there's something 496 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,359 in those eyes that's just very gripping and compelling. This 497 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:28,720 dog had a huge heart. I mean, if you saw 498 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:31,680 the way she behaved with her eighty five year old 499 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,079 to ninety year old friend Pearl, it was really amazing. 500 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,920 I mean, when Pearl later in the story begins to 501 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,720 get older and more frail, Katie does more for her 502 00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:46,319 than any doctor could ever do. So there's something about 503 00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:49,000 the story because I get letters from people all the 504 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:51,960 time that are unsolicited and they tell me I was 505 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,240 crying or this reminded me of my dog, or my 506 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,599 grandmother or my grandson. So in the end, it's not 507 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,880 really about dog only. It's about life. It's about all 508 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,279 of the relationships that we have with our people who 509 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,000 are younger and older, and who are biologically family and 510 00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:14,599 who are closest friends. It takes in all the connections 511 00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:19,119 that we have that really makes life most meaningful, you. 512 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: Know, absolutely, And it's a fantastic message and everybody can 513 00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:23,480 check it out. Get a copy of the book, check 514 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,680 out the website katiebook dot com. Glenn. As we're wrapping 515 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,920 it up here, is any other projects or anything else 516 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,680 that we need to let the listeners know about or 517 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,839 how to keep a track of all the wonderful things 518 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,279 you're doing. 519 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 9: Well. Another thing you might enjoy doing is if you 520 00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:38,160 go on Facebook, you can either type in my name 521 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,599 Glenn Plaskin or you can go to Katie Up and 522 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,720 Down the Hall. But if you type in my name, 523 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,480 I'm beginning a new book which has me going on 524 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,519 a series of adventures. You know, in life, we all 525 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,319 have things that we wish we could do, but either 526 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,960 fear or circumstance always holds us back. And the new 527 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,680 book is about having me do ninety things in ninety 528 00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:05,160 days that I'm afraid to do. Great for me. 529 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,359 Speaker 2: Everybody grab your rosary for Glenn and to ask well, 530 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,319 we'll be looking for that book. Keep us posted on that. 531 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,319 We'd love to know about all about that book as well, 532 00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:18,400 and have you back on to talk to us kain. 533 00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:21,119 Speaker 9: Oh, thanks, and I wish you a happy New Year. 534 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: Same here, we've been talking to Glenn Plaskin, author of 535 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,039 Katie Up and Down the Hall. Check it out at 536 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:28,880 katiebook dot com. Glenn, thanks for joining Animal Rights on 537 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,920 Pet Life Radio. Well, we're coming to the end of 538 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,440 the show today. I'd like to thank everyone for listening 539 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,920 to Animal Rights on Pet Life Radio. I also like 540 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,160 to thank Glenn Plaskin again for being on my show today, 541 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,599 and big thank you to our sponsors and producers for 542 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,240 making the show possible. To find out more about me, 543 00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:48,519 timlink and other podcasts that I have done on animal 544 00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:51,559 rights and to check out my blog, go to petlifradio 545 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,359 dot com and click on the blog animal Rights. Read 546 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,839 my blogs and download also some of the shows as well, 547 00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:01,359 and while you're there, make sure you check out all 548 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,480 of the other hosts and shows on pet Life Radio. 549 00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:06,599 If you have any questions, comments, or ideas for the show, 550 00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,960 please email them to me at timatpetlifradio dot com. It's 551 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,519 Tim at petlifradio dot com. Be glad to answer any 552 00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:16,480 questions you've got, entertain any comments you have. If you 553 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,359 have any show ideas or guests you'd like to see on, 554 00:30:18,519 --> 00:30:20,400 we'll do our very best to get them on board. 555 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:23,720 So until next time, write a great story about the 556 00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:26,799 animals in your life, share it on a blog, article, 557 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,559 or book, and who knows, you may be the next 558 00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:33,119 guest on animal rights on pet Life Radio. Thanks for joining. 559 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:34,240 Have a great day. 560 00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 4: Let's talk pets every week on demand only on petlifradio 561 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:59,640 dot com. 562 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 3: So do can do