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Speaker 1: of a cornucopia going today. We got birthright citizenship.
Speaker 2: It's in the news because you know, President Trump as
Speaker 2: the executive order saying no, we're not doing that anymore.
Speaker 2: You know, if a child's born to folks here illegally,
Speaker 2: they're not automatically an American citizen. That's not the law,
Speaker 2: that's not the Constitution. And then you know, predictably, a
Speaker 2: court enjoined that today put it on hold, a court
Speaker 2: out of Seattle, and now the hope is it gets
Speaker 2: to the US Supreme Court quickly. I'm just here to
Speaker 2: tell you, I would bet you my car and all
Speaker 2: the repair bills that go with it that the US
Speaker 2: Supreme Court would easily and quickly make it clear that
Speaker 2: the fourteenth Amendment does not say that if somebody's here
Speaker 2: illegally and the child's born here, that they're a US citizen.
Speaker 2: And then we in the first hour we deep dolve
Speaker 2: it and so I'm sure we'll touch on some of
Speaker 2: that again. Anyway, we're talking birthright citizenship if you want
Speaker 2: to jump in on that.
Speaker 3: We're also talking about, Hey, what do you expect to
Speaker 3: find out?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: What do you think really happened with the JFK, MLK
Speaker 2: RFK assassinations? Now that Trump has said he's going to
Speaker 2: release a lot of unclassified stuff talking about and playing
Speaker 2: the very compelling sound from the inaugural address President Trump
Speaker 2: saying that God saved him, and God saved him so
Speaker 2: he could make America great again.
Speaker 3: So diving into.
Speaker 2: That, and I've got one of the most fascinating, I
Speaker 2: think stories of the year coming up. And this is
Speaker 2: I won't say a breaking news story because it's not
Speaker 2: going to make anybody breathless. I just think it's fascinating
Speaker 2: and important Denver Post story that dropped today about a
Speaker 2: landlord suing a seven to eleven owner in Boulder for
Speaker 2: making the story a quote magnet for homeless people. And
Speaker 2: it's really interesting once you get into it. So hopefully
Speaker 2: if we don't get to it today, we'll get to tomorrow.
Speaker 2: But I want to get to phones and text. Let's
Speaker 2: start with Brian and Arvada. You're on the dan Kaplis.
Speaker 3: You'll welcome.
Speaker 5: Hey, Brian, can you hear me?
Speaker 3: I can hear you know.
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, it's not that hard. It'll be interesting if
Speaker 5: they do let it out, because I guess he's going
Speaker 5: to let it out the first term, so we'll see
Speaker 5: it happens. But to me, it's all very simple. It's
Speaker 5: the same reason they tried to kill Donald Trump. It's
Speaker 5: the industrial war complex. She didn't want to get it
Speaker 5: into another war, and there's a lot of money in war,
Speaker 5: so he's just easiness into it. He's going to expose.
Speaker 5: It's another step in exposing the corruptness that we've been
Speaker 5: living with in our government for many and many years,
Speaker 5: more than any of us even know. That's what's genius
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 2: Brian, appreciate the call, Thank you, my friend, and we'll
Speaker 2: see how much we learned from the classified info. When
Speaker 2: it comes to Trump, you know, when you stop and
Speaker 2: think about it, Trump is the single greatest threat in
Speaker 2: terms of humans on the face of the earth today.
Speaker 2: Trump is the single greatest threat to so many different
Speaker 2: forms of evil. So when it comes to you know,
Speaker 2: who is actively trying to assassinate him? Now, and I mean,
Speaker 2: this is just public record that Iran is trying to
Speaker 2: but I believe there are probably more nation state actors
Speaker 2: than Iran trying to assassinate Trump and others who might
Speaker 2: have a motive if others were involved in either Butler.
Speaker 3: Or the Florida attempt.
Speaker 2: You've got so many different forms of evil that are
Speaker 2: probably trying to end Trump that it actually probably makes
Speaker 2: it harder to sort out, right, and then you always
Speaker 2: have the possibility that it's an individual actor.
Speaker 3: That's always possible.
Speaker 2: But but right now, Yeah, would any sane person have
Speaker 2: trusted the Biden administration to get to the bottom of
Speaker 2: that when it came to the two assassination attempts on Trump. No,
Speaker 2: I don't think any sane person would. So let's just
Speaker 2: hope under this administration we can get there. Want to
Speaker 2: get to some text as well. Eight five five four
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Speaker 3: Let's go to Oh, somebody unhappy with me? Where is that?
Speaker 5: Dan?
Speaker 3: I know this may be.
Speaker 2: Nitpicking a bit, but the quote founders did not right
Speaker 2: slash ratify the fourteenth Amendment. This was passed in eighteen
Speaker 2: sixty eight. Roughly seventy years after what we would traditionally
Speaker 2: refer to as the time of our founders.
Speaker 3: You and Ryan keep up the great work. Thank you, Texter.
Speaker 2: But I did actually know that the Fourteenth Amendment came
Speaker 2: later in eighteen sixty eight. But no, the Fourteenth Amendment
Speaker 2: is referred to as the Second Foundings, So I and
Speaker 2: many others have traditionally referred to the people who passed, wrote,
Speaker 2: and passed the Fourteenth Amendment as founders. It's known as
Speaker 2: the second Founding. Though I appreciate your point. Some might
Speaker 2: distinguish framers from founders that sort of thing, but it was,
Speaker 2: I think in reality and is known as the second
Speaker 2: Founding the fourteenth Amendment.
Speaker 3: Thank you, though, thank you for your note. Dan.
Speaker 2: What type of marksman was Oswald with the rightfully used
Speaker 2: in a moving target? Raises my suspicions, Bob, I just
Speaker 2: come back to as a practical matter, I'm just one guy, right,
Speaker 2: I haven't had the access to the stuff I knew
Speaker 2: to do the real forensicnic directly. But I just personally
Speaker 2: believe that Oswald did not act alone. And let's see
Speaker 2: if these files shed any light on that. I don't
Speaker 2: believe that James Rolray acted alone in the killing of
Speaker 2: doctor King. I don't believe that for one single second.
Speaker 2: Certainly not, Sir Hans Sir Han with RFK. So let's
Speaker 2: hope we're heading into a new era of God trustworthiness.
Speaker 2: It has been a long time, Dan, some of these
Speaker 2: Fourteenth Amendment notes just get too long, and I understand
Speaker 2: it because there's a lot to talk about there.
Speaker 3: Dan, I agree with you to some extent.
Speaker 2: However, if the parents are here illegally, I believe the
Speaker 2: child should not receive citizenship until they reach the age
Speaker 2: of adulthood and then have the opportunity to reject it.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure where the Texter is coming from that
Speaker 2: because my position is really clear, and that is, the
Speaker 2: Constitution was never intended to provide that a child born
Speaker 2: to people here illegally automatically be an American citizen. I
Speaker 2: understand that's the current interpretation. I just think it's a
Speaker 2: drastic misread and misunderstanding of the Constitution, which are current
Speaker 2: US Supreme Court will correct as soon as they get
Speaker 2: that case. So yeah with me and listen when it
Speaker 2: comes to the child, he may be referring to an
Speaker 2: earlier true said, Hey, what if the mom's here legally
Speaker 2: and the dad's here illegally.
Speaker 3: And I said, that's an easy one. That the child
Speaker 3: is an.
Speaker 2: American citizen because the child's born to an American citizen.
Speaker 2: So I think that also is an easy one. Now,
Speaker 2: I do want to add this note as we go
Speaker 2: to other calls and text, and that is, listen to
Speaker 2: child who happens to be born here to parents here illegally.
Speaker 3: My heart breaks for that child. I mean, nothing I
Speaker 3: say now.
Speaker 2: Is should be intended or interpreted rather as somehow viewing
Speaker 2: that child as lesser. You know, my heart breaks for
Speaker 2: the child. It's not the child's doing that the parents
Speaker 2: are here illegally. The parents may in fact be absolutely
Speaker 2: wonderful people. You've probably had the same experience. I mean,
Speaker 2: some of the greatest people I've ever met in my
Speaker 2: life came to this country illegally, and should they have. No,
Speaker 2: everybody should follow the law. I agree. I'm just say
Speaker 2: in the truth, and I bet it's true for you
Speaker 2: as well. Some of the greatest people I've ever met
Speaker 2: came to this country I legally. That does not and
Speaker 2: obviously we all know some of the most awful people
Speaker 2: to ever set foot in the United States of America,
Speaker 2: came to this country illegally, just like some of the
Speaker 2: best people we know did.
Speaker 3: But all I'm saying is none of that.
Speaker 2: Should change the truths behind all of this, the true
Speaker 2: legal constitutional analysis that the founders, including the second Founding,
Speaker 2: never intended to incentivize illegal immigration. It was all about
Speaker 2: black people who'd been enslaved and the children of black
Speaker 2: people who'd been enslaved. It is clear what their intent was,
Speaker 2: and nobody in the right mind ever would have sat
Speaker 2: there back in nineteen sixty a and says, oh, yeah, hey,
Speaker 2: let's come up with something that encourages people to come
Speaker 2: here illegally so that their children can be born on
Speaker 2: American soil and they can get this precious, this precious
Speaker 2: right known as Americans citizenship.
Speaker 3: No, it's goofy to think that was their intent.
Speaker 2: Not to disrespect anybody, but I truly think that's goofy
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Speaker 2: for the record, I'm not calling any person, any lawyer,
Speaker 2: any jurist who has interpreted it that way goofy. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, when we step back and look at it logically, practically, historically. No,
Speaker 2: that's not what was intended with the fourteenth Amendment. Oh
Speaker 2: my goodness, Ryan, we have so much red hot sound
Speaker 2: today and we need a chance to squeeze all of
Speaker 2: it in. So what I want to do is I
Speaker 2: want to come back from the break your fingers. I
Speaker 2: assume I rested and nimble. We can get through a
Speaker 2: bunch of sound.
Speaker 6: Oh we're going to fire away baby.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that is That is music to my ears.
Speaker 2: Because there's so much fun stuff happening right now. I
Speaker 2: want to give people a taste of kind of the
Speaker 2: broad breadth and depth of it.
Speaker 3: A great time to be alive. You're on the Dan
Speaker 3: Kapla Show.
Speaker 6: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 7: Lastly, sir, we have an executive order ordering the declassification
Speaker 7: of files relating to the assassinations the President John F.
Speaker 5: Kennedy, Senator Robert F.
Speaker 3: Kennedy, and the Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Junior. It's
Speaker 3: a big one, huh. A lot of people are waiting
Speaker 3: for this for along.
Speaker 8: For years, for decades, and everything will be revealed.
Speaker 3: Okay, give that you all right, k G. Such a role.
Speaker 2: And as important as that is, and it is, it's
Speaker 2: it's not even the most important signed today. The most
Speaker 2: important was the pardons of the many different pro life
Speaker 2: activists who were persecuted by the Biden administration. Even a mother,
Speaker 2: a young African American mother, put in jail for a
Speaker 2: very long time for protesting at a clinic. And it
Speaker 2: just horrific stuff. And we talked about it in depth earlier.
Speaker 2: And the fact that Trump is standing up to this evil,
Speaker 2: unequal application of the law by Biden and the hard
Speaker 2: left is is so critical, even beyond the individual cases
Speaker 2: of these pro life protectors. It just just defending equal
Speaker 2: application of the law and striking back against what Biden
Speaker 2: and the left have done. So great day for America
Speaker 2: and so happy for those individuals. All right, let's get
Speaker 2: back to the phone lines there in Fuego. We're talking
Speaker 2: about so much different stuff. Now, I don't want to
Speaker 2: burn the whole segment setting it up, so let's go
Speaker 2: straight to Robert in Denver, Colorado.
Speaker 3: You're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 4: Welcome, id I wanted to ask you about the right,
Speaker 4: So yes, I mean, I'm I'm not kids, But anyways,
Speaker 4: what about the permanent residence. I mean, oh, a good.
Speaker 2: Question, good, good question, my friend, and your line's chopping up,
Speaker 2: so we'll have to put you on hold while I
Speaker 2: address that. And what a smart question from Robert in Denver,
Speaker 2: because the quick setup is that, yeah, we've we've been
Speaker 2: talking about since a court today in Seattle, the Federal
Speaker 2: Court has put on hold President Trump's executive order striking
Speaker 2: down birthright citizenship, saying that is not the law in America.
Speaker 3: That's not what the constitution says.
Speaker 2: You don't become an American citizen just because your parents
Speaker 2: here illegally give birth here.
Speaker 3: So this will now get to the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: And my point was the US Supreme Court, I think
Speaker 2: will quickly and easily find that it is an incorrect
Speaker 2: interpretation of the fourteenth Amendment to say that a child
Speaker 2: becomes an American citizen simply because their parents are is
Speaker 2: simply because they're born here, particularly when it's of parents
Speaker 2: who are here illegally. Now, great question from the caller,
Speaker 2: which is, hey, what if the parents have legal status here?
Speaker 2: And he talked about I think he referred to a
Speaker 2: permanent resident. That would completely change the equation in my mind,
Speaker 2: because when you look at the fourteenth Amendment, and then
Speaker 2: you track just the different court cases and arguments over
Speaker 2: the years. Fourteenth Amendment, as you know, says all persons
Speaker 2: born or naturalized in the United States and subject to
Speaker 2: the jurisdiction thereof. So it all comes down to what
Speaker 2: does what does and subject to the jurisdiction thereof mean?
Speaker 2: And I think by far the best interpretation is that
Speaker 2: it means your exclusive loyalty is to the United States
Speaker 2: of America. So by definition, somebody here illegally, that would
Speaker 2: not be the case. If somebody's here permanently with some
Speaker 2: other type of legal status, I think that would be
Speaker 2: the case. So I think the US Supreme Court is
Speaker 2: not going to have any trouble with this. The challenge
Speaker 2: is going to be how quickly it can be brought
Speaker 2: to the court, and hopefully it's the current constitution of
Speaker 2: the court. Let's go to Allen in Kenyon City, Colorado.
Speaker 2: Hopefully he's in Kenyon City and not in Kenyon City.
Speaker 2: You're on the dan KAPLA Show.
Speaker 4: Welcome Allan, Hello, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3: Sure thanks.
Speaker 4: Got a story that came from my grandma when she
Speaker 4: was eight years old. Her family came here to the
Speaker 4: United States from Germany landed in New York. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: my grandmother told me this story when I would in
Speaker 4: my early twenties.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So, anyway, after because they have to, you know, take
Speaker 4: all the testing and everything to be kin citizens, it
Speaker 4: was a big celebration amongst the Tagline family. And from
Speaker 4: there after the celebration, they all got together and moved
Speaker 4: to Hayes, Kansas. My point is that automatically makes me
Speaker 4: a US citizen because they took the tests and that,
Speaker 4: you know it, it required them to become citizens.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you know that. That's I think that's the
Speaker 4: way it should be. That's the way the cons Constitution
Speaker 4: states it. And yeah, you know, I totally agree with it,
Speaker 4: you know, with the Constitution because you know, well that's
Speaker 4: only fair.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Neat story, my friend.
Speaker 2: And what you're correctly referring to is the or naturalized
Speaker 2: language all persons born or naturalized in the United States,
Speaker 2: and naturalized means being made citizens pursuant to the applicable law.
Speaker 3: And you've led us to a bigger point here.
Speaker 2: And Andy McCarthy makes this this point great, which is, hey,
Speaker 2: congres can do whatever Congress wants to do on this front.
Speaker 2: They've been given that constitutional power. So Congress can come
Speaker 2: in and say, we've got the power to decide pass
Speaker 2: laws to say who's a citizen or not. So if
Speaker 2: Congress wanted to come in and say, Okay, anybody who's
Speaker 2: born here is a citizen, even if your parents are here,
Speaker 2: you're legally, Congress has that power. But the point obviously
Speaker 2: is no Congress is going to say that right because
Speaker 2: it just wouldn't make any sense for this nation. And
Speaker 2: that's not disrespecting the child who's born here of parents
Speaker 2: who don't have legal status.
Speaker 3: It's it's a practical matter. Hey, my friend, thank you
Speaker 3: for the call.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate that we've got to hit this break, but
Speaker 2: thank you for calling from Candas City, Colorado.
Speaker 3: Ran.
Speaker 2: You've got to tell me this is actually a great story.
Speaker 2: Remind me sometime to tell my Hayes, Kansas story and
Speaker 2: the crime that was committed against me in Hayes, Kansas.
Speaker 3: No reflection on that beautiful town.
Speaker 7: Was that it for me and Hayes State University?
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no.
Speaker 2: It was at a truck stop and he's Kansas. I
Speaker 2: was hitchhiking back to Colorado. Oh yeah, great story. But
Speaker 2: we don't have time for now.
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: Do you want to get some more texts and more
Speaker 3: calls in?
Speaker 2: But when we come back, quick setup because we only
Speaker 2: have a few seconds here, Well continue the birthright citizen citizenship,
Speaker 2: you know conversation because it is in the news today
Speaker 2: with that federal court action. But there's more I want
Speaker 2: to get to. I want to get to this fascinating
Speaker 2: story out of Boulder where the building owner is suing
Speaker 2: the seven eleven because the seven eleven is actively and
Speaker 2: intentionally the allegation goes attracting homeless people to the seven
Speaker 2: to eleven, who are then becoming a problem in different ways.
Speaker 2: That's the allegation. I'll come back, I'll set it up.
Speaker 2: It's fascinating and who should win that case.
Speaker 3: You're on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 6: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3: Boy, what a weak hun You remember a week like this?
Speaker 2: And we've been talking about this since election day, right
Speaker 2: when the Trump effect kicked in and it was clear,
Speaker 2: as we expected, there would be an immediate concrete improvement
Speaker 2: in America and the world, not that we're gonna have
Speaker 2: puppies and rainbows and unicorns everywhere, but we've got a
Speaker 2: lot more of them flying around and things are moving
Speaker 2: much more in the right directions. So yeah, just what
Speaker 2: a great fun, amazing time to be alive. And more
Speaker 2: fights to come, sure here in Colorado and beyond. But
Speaker 2: we have not seen this kind of rapid progress. I
Speaker 2: don't know if we've seen it ever in our lifetime.
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Speaker 3: It'll be fun. Tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We're going to have Heidi Ganal in the house. Hedi
Speaker 2: was back in DC for the inauguration, as Ryan was
Speaker 2: as well, and you're be getting her take on all
Speaker 2: of that and.
Speaker 3: What is to come.
Speaker 2: And the nice thing is that what is to come
Speaker 2: it's so concrete, right like if you just joined the show.
Speaker 2: We're having a deep dive today on birthright citizenship, the
Speaker 2: idea that somebody the Constitution would say somebody automatically becomes
Speaker 2: a US citizen just if they're born here, even if
Speaker 2: their parents happen to be legal. We've been analyzing that
Speaker 2: because now that Trump signed the executive order saying no way,
Speaker 2: and a court in Seattle has enjoined that order. You know,
Speaker 2: we're hoping it gets to the US Supreme Court quickly,
Speaker 2: because I would bet you a ton the US Supreme
Speaker 2: Court says, no, the current interpretation of the fourteenth Amendment
Speaker 2: that if you're born here, you're a citizen no matter what,
Speaker 2: is not a correct interpretation.
Speaker 3: I expect that will soon. I'll put that in quotes
Speaker 3: be the law of the land.
Speaker 2: And of course President now he's going to release classified
Speaker 2: info from the assassination files jfkrfk MLK and just kind
Speaker 2: of kicking around what that's likely to bring. I do
Speaker 2: want to squeeze in a couple of texts if we can, Dan,
Speaker 2: how many celebrities and other elites have left the country
Speaker 2: who said they would if Trump was president again.
Speaker 3: They've had two.
Speaker 2: Plus months to pack that from Alexa Ryan, the only
Speaker 2: person I've ever known who actually lived up to that
Speaker 2: was my brother, who promised he would move his family
Speaker 2: out of the country of Trump one in sixteen and
Speaker 2: he did that.
Speaker 3: Did that? Yeah, he did that.
Speaker 2: Dan. Since you're a lawyer, can you explain when the
Speaker 2: J six prisoner slash hostages will be released in full
Speaker 2: and maybe also answer what seems to be taking so long?
Speaker 3: Thank you in advance.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's interesting on that, and you know,
Speaker 2: my own take is that there should not be pardons.
Speaker 2: And as everyone knows, pardon means as it's as if
Speaker 2: it never happened. Commutation means they cut the sentence in
Speaker 2: the penalty. But my belief is there should not be
Speaker 2: full pardons for people who engaged in violence, particularly people
Speaker 2: who attack police officers.
Speaker 3: But that is done.
Speaker 2: It's interesting now you have some judges some of the
Speaker 2: courts involved are dismissing the charges, but dismissing them quote
Speaker 2: without prejudice, which means they could be refiled. Now that's
Speaker 2: a legal fiction. The law is clear the charges could
Speaker 2: not be refiled. President Trump has the power to simply pardon,
Speaker 2: but some of the courts are in fact pursuing thee
Speaker 2: without prejudice. In terms of other hang ups, Thanks Texter,
Speaker 2: But I'd want to know some of those individuals individuals
Speaker 2: specific cases, because.
Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with those.
Speaker 2: If there are some right now that haven't simply been released,
Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with the details. Dan, if they rented
Speaker 2: as a seven eleven, seven to eleven will win that case,
Speaker 2: should sue for not providing security? What the Texter is
Speaker 2: referring to is to me one of the most interesting
Speaker 2: stories in a long time, and there isn't time to
Speaker 2: do it full justice today, but I want to introduce
Speaker 2: you to it, so you have it in the back
Speaker 2: of your mind. We'll kick it around some more next week.
Speaker 2: This is a well put together piece by Justin Winingerder.
Speaker 2: In the Denver Post, landlord complains that seven to eleven
Speaker 2: near cu is magnet for homeless people. In a legal
Speaker 2: dispute that is nearly identical to a case playing out
Speaker 2: in Lodo, a local landlord is accusing seven eleven of
Speaker 2: allowing one of its most prominent Boulder stores to become
Speaker 2: a homeless hangout, drug market, and crime scene, harming the
Speaker 2: landlord's leasing efforts. Urban Frontier at Denver firm owns the
Speaker 2: former Flat Irons Theater near the University of Colorado. The
Speaker 2: building is now in ninety three hundred square foot retail space.
Speaker 2: It is also quote a magnet for homeless people, according
Speaker 2: to a lawsuit Urban filed against seven eleven's corporate office.
Speaker 3: The landlord blames seven eleven's altruism.
Speaker 2: And this is part of what I think makes this
Speaker 2: so interesting, and I want to kick around with you.
Speaker 2: Quoting the lawsuit, defendant incentivizes and allows homeless people to
Speaker 2: hungergate on and near the property by providing free or
Speaker 2: price reduced items, including food and water. Defendant provides homeless
Speaker 2: people with special information reducing the cost of goods, and
Speaker 2: has provided homeless people with free rubber gloves and disinfectant. Ok.
Speaker 3: What do you think the gloves are for?
Speaker 2: Ryan Defendant's employees have personal relationships with homeless people, It complains.
Speaker 2: As a result, transiencurinate and defecate on the buildings, sleep outside,
Speaker 2: trespass inside graffitia's walls.
Speaker 3: Drink alcohol there, and do drugs.
Speaker 2: According to Urban which says it has been twenty grand
Speaker 2: on security, the landlord accuses seven to eleven of siding
Speaker 2: with the homeless, and then it goes on to assert
Speaker 2: some legal claims.
Speaker 3: So who should win that?
Speaker 7: Well, in my view, what you just described, what you enable,
Speaker 7: you encourage, and you deserve what you enable. And if
Speaker 7: that's the case here, then I think anybody who would
Speaker 7: allow for this to happen, or encourage it to happen
Speaker 7: by enabling people to be there, should be held responsible
Speaker 7: for That's just my view on it. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 7: it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Obviously, a business owner has the right to be altruistic
Speaker 2: and kind toward homeless people, et cetera. And I'm sure
Speaker 2: that's what it's born of up there, you know, having
Speaker 2: been a student up there, et cetera.
Speaker 3: But you don't have a right.
Speaker 2: It's the old thing right, the freedom to swing your
Speaker 2: your arm stops at the tip of my nose, and
Speaker 2: so you don't have the right then to create.
Speaker 3: What the law would call a nuisance right.
Speaker 2: That then, you know, interferes with others free access to
Speaker 2: public accommodations, lowers property values, et cetera. So, without knowing
Speaker 2: more and just accepting the allegations from the complaint, we
Speaker 2: haven't heard the other side, right, but I would love
Speaker 2: to hear the other side next week.
Speaker 3: Hopefully we could get seven to eleven in on this.
Speaker 2: If everything they described is true, I would expect the
Speaker 2: landlord's gonna prevail and probably not have to go all
Speaker 2: the way to a jury trial. There's probably going to
Speaker 2: be some sort of settlement where seven eleven just changes
Speaker 2: the way it approaches all this.
Speaker 7: These are human beings, and I hate to use this analogy,
Speaker 7: but I think it fits, and it makes a point
Speaker 7: and that is you start feeding stray cats, they're gonna
Speaker 7: keep coming back, and they're.
Speaker 6: Gonna know that that is a source of food and they.
Speaker 7: Can come back and come back again. And no matter
Speaker 7: the altruistic motives. To your point, Dan, if you're creating
Speaker 7: a nuisance situation by designating this place kind of a
Speaker 7: haven or a magnet for such people come in and
Speaker 7: then engage in these behaviors of defecating and urinating and
Speaker 7: whatever else, then I think the person that is encouraging
Speaker 7: that behavior should be held responsible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and obviously, Ryan, I know you're not
Speaker 2: comparing these human beings to cats, but I just.
Speaker 6: Gave the disclaimer.
Speaker 3: I tried my best, but then you went ahead and
Speaker 3: did it. But that's what is.
Speaker 4: Wrong.
Speaker 3: Is that wrong?
Speaker 6: Is it an inaccurate comparison?
Speaker 3: Yes? Oh yes it is. Yes, yes it is, my friend,
Speaker 3: How is it inaccurate?
Speaker 4: Dan?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 2: It is inaccurate because of the fact we're talking about
Speaker 2: human beings here, right, We're going to have a different
Speaker 2: legal standard apply.
Speaker 9: And also, yeah, the legal standard I'm talking about that
Speaker 9: is just the actual standing point, the actual effect of
Speaker 9: what you're doing, right, And I.
Speaker 3: Don't mean to get into the weeds with this.
Speaker 2: But but the other reason why, I mean, I think
Speaker 2: there are a lot of reasons that the comparison doesn't apply.
Speaker 2: And I know you did not mean it in a
Speaker 2: harsh way, but but the other reasons it doesn't apply
Speaker 2: is because these are human beings. It's it's not just
Speaker 2: kind of an instinctive thing. Okay, the cat knows there's
Speaker 2: going to be milk over there. You know, There's there's
Speaker 2: a lot of other reasoning that goes into it. But
Speaker 2: then there's a lot of other harm, unfortunately, that can
Speaker 2: be caused by by the human beings as they pursue this.
Speaker 3: Because we're talking.
Speaker 2: About and we're all broken to one degree another, right,
Speaker 2: but we're talking about badly broken human beings at a
Speaker 2: very bad point in their life, who are probably many
Speaker 2: of them drug, alcohol, other addicted, and so their behavior
Speaker 2: wants there is the behavior of many is just going
Speaker 2: to be more destructive. And so I get the landlord's concern,
Speaker 2: assuming that the seven to eleven they're nobly motivated, there's
Speaker 2: got to be a way to carve this out, right,
Speaker 2: But listen, if a landlord is sitting there looking at
Speaker 2: everything it describes, it is in my view, a right
Speaker 2: to take action, and no matter how well intentioned the
Speaker 2: seven to eleven, they still have to pursue their mission
Speaker 2: work in a way that is fair to all of
Speaker 2: the surrounding businesses. That's all I'm saying. But Ryan, let
Speaker 2: me do this, okay, because there is have you seen
Speaker 2: this texter who's really going after me?
Speaker 3: This is fun?
Speaker 2: Says he's a lawyer who could run circles around me
Speaker 2: in a courtroom and wants to bet his fancy cars.
Speaker 2: This is going to be a lot of fun because
Speaker 2: I'm going to give them a chance to do that.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6: And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 3: Next, we have a set of pardons for peaceful.
Speaker 7: Pro life protesters who were prosecuted by the Biden administration
Speaker 7: for exercising their First Amendment rights.
Speaker 3: Do you know how many I believe it's twenty three, sir.
Speaker 10: Twenty three people were prosecuted. They should not have been prosecuted.
Speaker 10: Many of them are elderly people. They should not have
Speaker 10: been prosecuted. This is a great honor to sign this.
Speaker 10: They'll be great happy.
Speaker 3: So they're all in prison.
Speaker 7: Now, some some are out of custody.
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous, what a great moment.
Speaker 2: Today's so important what President Trump did on multiple levels.
Speaker 2: But keep in mind, some of these people think of
Speaker 2: about the threat to this nation that the Biden administration
Speaker 2: created when it decided to misuse DOJ to mount politically
Speaker 2: motivated prosecutions and then hypercharged, prosecuted, and sentenced the people
Speaker 2: such as this young African American mother in jail four
Speaker 2: years until being freed by Trump, who's in jail for
Speaker 2: protesting at one.
Speaker 3: Of these abortion facilities.
Speaker 2: And then the elderly woman convicted as well, and then
Speaker 2: I believe on home detention now.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, and here's the point.
Speaker 2: Even if you could look at any one of those
Speaker 2: prosecutions and say, oh, yeah, there's a law violation there,
Speaker 2: that the big question then becomes is the law being
Speaker 2: applied equally? And the answers are resounding, no, you have
Speaker 2: the politically favored They would never even think of charging
Speaker 2: for far worse offense as let alone pursuing sentencing and
Speaker 2: putting in jail. And it's that kind of of unequal
Speaker 2: application of the law, abuse of the law law for
Speaker 2: politically motivated prosecutions that threatens the existence of this nation.
Speaker 3: Let alone that what they're trying to.
Speaker 2: Do here is persecute and prosecute and jail some of
Speaker 2: the greatest civil rights heroes of our time, because that
Speaker 2: the fight for innocent life is the civil rights movement
Speaker 2: of our lifetime on multiple levels, including but not limited,
Speaker 2: the fact that you know, five times more children of
Speaker 2: color are killed before birth than other children, and none
Speaker 2: of them should be killed.
Speaker 3: But my point is, a.
Speaker 2: Great blow was struck today for good over an evil practice.
Speaker 2: And did this evil practice of unequal application of the law.
Speaker 2: And by the way, does anybody really that Biden's DOJ
Speaker 2: could not have tracked down the people who burned that
Speaker 2: pro life pregnancy center up in northern Colorado the day
Speaker 2: after Roe was struck down. Really, really, you think that
Speaker 2: all the resources, all the great people in the DJ
Speaker 2: and there are many, Biden couldn't have tracked down the people.
Speaker 2: And it's just I think, from what I can see
Speaker 2: from the outside, another example of that unequal application of
Speaker 2: the law, which is ending now with Trump and hopefully
Speaker 2: for many years to come. All right, let's try to
Speaker 2: squeeze in. Oh, I've got to deliver on this teas
Speaker 2: and then I'll go to the phone lines. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I get a text from this guy who says, Dan,
Speaker 2: I'm an ex DC lawyer, would run circles around you
Speaker 2: in a courtroom, would love to come out of retirement
Speaker 2: to battle against you in a courtroom about birthrights to
Speaker 2: those born here. Guaranteed win for me. Okay, tough guy,
Speaker 2: easy enough, You don't even have to come out of retirement.
Speaker 2: You don't even have to go into a courtroom. Just
Speaker 2: call the darn show. Call the darn show, tough guy
Speaker 2: or Gale. Eight five five four zero five eight two
Speaker 2: five five. I'll slow down so you can hear it
Speaker 2: clearly and write it down. Eight five five four zero
Speaker 2: five eight two five five. Just call the show. We
Speaker 2: can have our own trial right here. And you know what,
Speaker 2: instead of six wonderful jurors in the box and a
Speaker 2: great judge on the bench, and maybe it can fit
Speaker 2: one hundred people in the courtroom, we can have the
Speaker 2: whole state. We can have the whole country here because
Speaker 2: they can get us on the iHeart app. So come on,
Speaker 2: tough guy or Gail, let's let's have our own little
Speaker 2: trial right here. And then he or she writes back
Speaker 2: to say, Dan, okay, I'll bet you my McLaren seven twenties.
Speaker 2: The Supreme Court will side with me.
Speaker 3: What do you drive?
Speaker 2: So you know what I'm picturing, Ryan, I'm picturing a
Speaker 2: couple of those like little models you get from the
Speaker 2: gas station.
Speaker 3: You know what, McLaren's seven twenties.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'm picturing that right now.
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, plenty of.
Speaker 2: DC lawyers have walked out of courtrooms very very disappointed
Speaker 2: in the outcome when we have shared that wonderful space.
Speaker 2: So yeah, please do please do my friend call the
Speaker 2: show and what do I drive?
Speaker 3: You are welcome to what I drive. I will tell
Speaker 3: you that right now.
Speaker 2: It's probably the best car I've ever driven when it works.
Speaker 3: But but Ryan, I.
Speaker 2: Think now, over the last three months it has spent
Speaker 2: more than half that time in the shop.
Speaker 3: What the heck's wrong with that? So I what isn't
Speaker 3: wrong with it? You know?
Speaker 2: I bought it used back during COVID because you couldn't
Speaker 2: find them new, and I saved a bunch of money
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 3: But here's the key. Here's the key.
Speaker 2: I got that four year warranty, you know, because Mercedes
Speaker 2: gives this on certain certified used cars. As you know,
Speaker 2: they'll give this full bumper to bumper warranty. I guarantee
Speaker 2: you they are regretting the day they ever gave that warranty.
Speaker 2: But and I'm kind of regretting the day I ever
Speaker 2: bought the car. But it is such a great car
Speaker 2: when it works right. It's one of these questions.
Speaker 3: I told you, I know people I can help you.
Speaker 9: Yeah, with Martino people, I'll let's talk about I'd say tomorrow,
Speaker 9: but Hedia is the show tomorrow, which is going to
Speaker 9: be awesome, So we'll figure that one out.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kelly next week, Brian, tremendous job, as always,
Speaker 2: my friend, and Kelly, you are human sunshine. You're brighten
Speaker 2: everybody's day every single day. Hey hiving ganal in tomorrow,
Speaker 2: thoroughly enjoy that. Thanks for your time today on The
Speaker 2: Dan Kapla Show.