Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to me buck Eye Weekly Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Tony Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom.
Speaker 2: How's it going.
Speaker 3: Ye, I've been out of town, missed the first couple
Speaker 3: of Ohiosday practices. Thankfully back back home back ready to
Speaker 3: go to practice number three. But before we get there,
Speaker 3: I hear you have some calm, measured and well reasoned
Speaker 3: thoughts on what I have missed the first two days.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear all.
Speaker 1: Yes, calm, well reasoned. That is why I'm calling them overreactions.
Speaker 1: And this first show we're gonna talk about my defensive overreactions,
Speaker 1: and then the second show we'll talk about the offensive
Speaker 1: overreactions defensively and the great thing about overreacting. At this point,
Speaker 1: we've seen two practices, no pads, no tackling, very limited
Speaker 1: in terms of what they're putting on the field in
Speaker 1: terms of scheme. But hey, as I'm writing over at
Speaker 1: Buckeinsiders dot com right now about this very topic, sometimes
Speaker 1: you need to have bravery. Sometimes you need to be courageous,
Speaker 1: and you need to step out there and let people
Speaker 1: know what might be happening. And if it doesn't, I
Speaker 1: already warned myself that this is like not a thing
Speaker 1: you should do. So with that all being said, tom
Speaker 1: My first overreaction here is I'm not sure that Christian
Speaker 1: Legro is going to leave the field now. In the
Speaker 1: three linebacker sets he's playing on a line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: at SAM and two linebacker sets, he's right next to
Speaker 1: Peyton Pierce at will, which leads me to speculate, overreact, react,
Speaker 1: perhaps perhaps underreact really that he's going to be on
Speaker 1: the field a bunch and he's he's playing both spots,
Speaker 1: just as R. Val Reice did. Tom, I don't recall
Speaker 1: how much did R. Val Reese leave the field last year.
Speaker 1: It wasn't much. And again I'm not saying Christian Aleegro
Speaker 1: is R val Reice. I'm saying it looks like he's
Speaker 1: playing that same position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting because he was someone where we were
Speaker 3: sort of, you know, felt like you knew what Peyton
Speaker 3: Pierce was and everything else was going to be a
Speaker 3: little bit of a mystery.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm I'm.
Speaker 3: Still very intrigued to see Riley Petty John on Saturday
Speaker 3: because I and I have heard some good things about
Speaker 3: him early on, which you know that that's going to
Speaker 3: probably be a factor in terms of who's playing, how
Speaker 3: much and where. But I'm not shocked to hear that
Speaker 3: Allegro is doing a lot of different stuff because he
Speaker 3: did a lot of different stuff at Wisconsin as well,
Speaker 3: and he comes in he is in a room that
Speaker 3: is on the younger side. Peyton Pierce would be his
Speaker 3: first year as a full time starter, and guys like
Speaker 3: Riley Petty John, TJ. Alfred, they were true freshman last year.
Speaker 3: Christian Legro kind of is the old head in that room,
Speaker 3: even though he's new to Ohio States. So I guess
Speaker 3: that's not a huge surprise that he would potentially be
Speaker 3: someone who would be very very high on the list
Speaker 3: of guys in terms of snapcounts this year.
Speaker 1: The first day, the first practice, I really only saw
Speaker 1: Riley Petty John Sam on the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 1: right there attached. On the second day he was now
Speaker 1: off the ball as well, playing that well, showing that
Speaker 1: they are cross training in which was to be expected.
Speaker 1: That's what they do with TJ. Alfred did it in
Speaker 1: the spring as well, and so Peyton Pierce talked about
Speaker 1: how they want everybody to be able to do that
Speaker 1: or most of the guys because Peyton Pierce isn't doing it,
Speaker 1: Garrett Stover isn't doing it, like the truth that the
Speaker 1: MIC's and the defense aren't doing it. And I don't
Speaker 1: think I've seen Eli Lee doing it. I don't think
Speaker 1: i've seen Sincere Johnson doing it. So but if you're
Speaker 1: gonna play Will, they kind of also want you to
Speaker 1: be able to play Sam, I think a little bit.
Speaker 1: And so Riley Petty John. I'm fascinated to see where
Speaker 1: he falls into there because he's going to play somewhere
Speaker 1: like he's going to be in there at times. And
Speaker 1: I'll say the same thing for tj Alford because right
Speaker 1: now tj Alford is running with the ones when they
Speaker 1: have three linebackers. He's the will when they have three linebackers.
Speaker 1: It just feels to me like somehow, some way, maybe
Speaker 1: it's Alfred and Petty John rotating or something like that.
Speaker 1: But I think Christian Legro is going to be out
Speaker 1: there a lot. But I also think they want to
Speaker 1: play those two young guys because if you don't, you
Speaker 1: might lose them.
Speaker 3: Well, you might lose him, But also you want if
Speaker 3: they're ready, you want to play him. You want to
Speaker 3: get these guys out. You want to have as many
Speaker 3: guys ready as you can because you know, we talk
Speaker 3: about the need to rotate guys at running back, for example,
Speaker 3: but you need to do that everywhere because it again
Speaker 3: you all the same stuff we talk about with the
Speaker 3: running backs or with the wide receivers or with the
Speaker 3: corners or whatever. Having more guys ready to play. If
Speaker 3: someone gets hurt, great, you got someone else who's ready
Speaker 3: to play. If you're keeping guys fresh and rotating him,
Speaker 3: that keeps them healthier over the course of the year.
Speaker 3: So there's lots of benefits to it, and you want
Speaker 3: to be you know, in addition to the if they're
Speaker 3: on the roster and they're ready to play, you should
Speaker 3: play them because then they will stick around potentially for
Speaker 3: the next season. You know, they already see the path
Speaker 3: to the playing field and all that. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: would not be surprised if you saw for maybe five
Speaker 3: linebackers playing a good number of snaps this year. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm not I don't think that's going to be four
Speaker 3: guys playing thirty snaps a game or anything like that.
Speaker 3: But I think you might see four, maybe five guys
Speaker 3: at least playing you know ten twelve fifteen snaps a game.
Speaker 1: Well, I will say our exces nos guys Michael Pettitt
Speaker 1: and Ross Fulton over at Buckeyinsiders dot Com on a
Speaker 1: message board are not happy about the possibility of a
Speaker 1: linebacker rotation. They they are opposed to it. They think
Speaker 1: it's you know, and I'm I'm not mocking them. I'm
Speaker 1: saying they're exces and nose guys. I just stayed a
Speaker 1: holiday and express. But there's certainly some concern about going
Speaker 1: in and out and then still maintaining the feel and
Speaker 1: the timing and all of that. But I don't know
Speaker 1: four they can. It's four guys too many, I guess.
Speaker 1: As the question there, that's something that James Lornidis and
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia will have to answer, unless, of course, you
Speaker 1: can partmentalize and it's like you do this, this guy
Speaker 1: does that, and never the twain shall meet, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 3: That is the phrase, yes and for the twain shall
Speaker 3: meet and and yeah, I mean you may have guys
Speaker 3: who fit certain situational roles where someone is more of
Speaker 3: a third down guy, or with someone is better in
Speaker 3: past coverage or whatever it is, and so you may
Speaker 3: have guys who kind of carve out different roles that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so let's go to my next defensive overreaction.
Speaker 1: I think Jermain Matthews as you're starting nickelback, and I'm
Speaker 1: saying this knowing the first day of practice there was
Speaker 1: no nickelback. The second day of practice there was a nickelback,
Speaker 1: but as basically just corners until later on. Deshaun Stewart
Speaker 1: was also one of the Nichols, but outside of him,
Speaker 1: it was when I say corners, the corner types, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's Jermaine Matthews, it's Jay Timmons, it is Miles Lockhart.
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm saying.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 1: Partly because it's not even because he's been with the
Speaker 1: WANs at nickel today on the on Friday, that was
Speaker 1: Jay Timmins for a good portion of it and then
Speaker 1: sometimes Jimmy Matthews. But Jermaine Matthews I think was mostly
Speaker 1: outside on day two. But Terry Moore has been with
Speaker 1: the twos and so the two safeties when they have
Speaker 1: had two, they've not yet played three safeties really with
Speaker 1: the ones, but they have played nickel and it's been
Speaker 1: with either like Jermaine Matthews or Jay Timmins. And so
Speaker 1: my thought here is that maybe Jermaine Matthews is more
Speaker 1: likely to be in the starting lineup right now than
Speaker 1: Terry Moore, which means that you know, you've got to
Speaker 1: find your best five, right tom So, then Jermaine Matthews
Speaker 1: is the nickel. He was the backup last year at nickel.
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Styles is gone, boom you put him in there.
Speaker 1: Earl Little is in the box as a box safety
Speaker 1: like Caleb Downs. Jayalen McLain plays the same position he
Speaker 1: did as last year deep safety. This all hinges on
Speaker 1: Dominic Kelly being ready just a true sophomore only a
Speaker 1: handful of games. Of course, Devin Sanchez I have no
Speaker 1: concerns about him at this point.
Speaker 2: What do you think this is so interesting?
Speaker 3: Because there are three possibilities.
Speaker 2: One is that.
Speaker 3: They feel like having a true corner at that nickel
Speaker 3: position is very important because of the coverage role, and
Speaker 3: it's hard even for a really good safety to be
Speaker 3: able to cover quite like a corner. Those are you know,
Speaker 3: there's just slightly different skill sets there that make you know,
Speaker 3: it's like taking a guard and a tackle and you know,
Speaker 3: there's slightly different body types and slightly different skill sets
Speaker 3: that you're looking for same thing with a corner into safety.
Speaker 3: So you know, maybe it's that maybe it's a you know,
Speaker 3: Dominic Kelly on one hand and Terry Moore on the
Speaker 3: other hand, and you're looking for your best five and
Speaker 3: again going back to the offensive line, who's your best five?
Speaker 3: And then you figure out how you align those five guys,
Speaker 3: and they're doing that on the offensive line right now,
Speaker 3: and you know, maybe it's who's your best five in
Speaker 3: the secondary, and they would be perfectly fine with putting
Speaker 3: Earl Little at nickel and Terry Moore at that sort
Speaker 3: of Caleb Downs type spot and then having Jermaine Matthews
Speaker 3: play outside. But it's just a matter of is Dominic
Speaker 3: Kelly part of your best five or is Terry Moore
Speaker 3: part of your best five. The third possibility, Tony, is
Speaker 3: that it's just second day and they're just kind of
Speaker 3: trying a bunch of different stuff, and that you know,
Speaker 3: you've got twenty whatever practices it is in the fall,
Speaker 3: and you know the stuff you try out, lots of
Speaker 3: stuff you throw. You know, the coaches have sat in
Speaker 3: rooms and talked about stuff for months and months and
Speaker 3: months and throw lots of stuff together, and they have
Speaker 3: a day where they just try you know, we're just
Speaker 3: gonna have to put the corners there and see see
Speaker 3: how it goes. So it's one of those three things. Probably,
Speaker 3: I don't I have no confidence in telling you which
Speaker 3: of those three things it is. I was fascinating, you
Speaker 3: know what, Matt Patricia. Well, so when we talked to
Speaker 3: Matt Patricia soon, I know so, yeah, I would be
Speaker 3: fascinated to hear his thought on how that you know,
Speaker 3: what's going into that decision.
Speaker 1: And it'll be interesting to see what he says and
Speaker 1: what he doesn't say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, huh.
Speaker 2: Always.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just good to finally have you being
Speaker 1: the voice of reason on this show. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: dialing back my overreactions, and I throw in an overreaction
Speaker 1: two point five.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: I think Jay Timmins might be the starting nickelback because
Speaker 1: he's with the ones.
Speaker 2: They're getting a.
Speaker 1: Good look at him, and if he is, then that
Speaker 1: allows you to keep your your three rotating corners out there.
Speaker 1: I also think you could just see a return to
Speaker 1: the big nickel small nickel type of situation where Earl
Speaker 1: Little is your big nickel, Jermaine Matthews or j probably
Speaker 1: Jay Timmins is your is your small nickel. They did
Speaker 1: it in the past with Sonny Styles and Jordan Hancock.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's something like that, but you can't say maybe
Speaker 1: with an overreaction. So that's why it's a two and
Speaker 1: a half rather than just a two or three.
Speaker 3: Look who now understands the concept of boldness. What a
Speaker 3: different season this is going to be on the Buckeye
Speaker 3: Weekly podcast. Yeah, the j Timmins thing is really intriguing
Speaker 3: to me that he is one of the names that
Speaker 3: I am super super excited to see on Saturday because
Speaker 3: coming out of high school he was you know, we
Speaker 3: had this sort of five star pedigree, and then we
Speaker 3: saw him some in the spring and it was like, okay, sure,
Speaker 3: you could tell me this as someone who's going to
Speaker 3: be a contributor in the next year or so, and
Speaker 3: I could buy it absolutely. But you know, you got
Speaker 3: fifteen practices in the spring, but then you have all
Speaker 3: the summer and there's not official practices going on. But
Speaker 3: guys get a lot better between spring ball and the
Speaker 3: start of fall camp, especially true freshmen. A lot of
Speaker 3: them can take a big step.
Speaker 2: During that time.
Speaker 3: And I am really really interested to see what Jay
Speaker 3: Timmins looks like because they're not in a position where
Speaker 3: they have to have him in there, but if he's ready,
Speaker 3: we saw last year with Devin Sanchez Day one, Devin
Speaker 3: Sanchez was out there. He was at the you know,
Speaker 3: the dime. Maybe that's where Jay Temons fits in, where
Speaker 3: he's not, you know, he doesn't have to be the
Speaker 3: starting nickel to be a contributor or you know, relatively
Speaker 3: early in the season, even in bigger games.
Speaker 1: The last thing on this overreaction and I've been overreacting
Speaker 1: a little bit about the comparison that I have for
Speaker 1: Jay Timmans in terms of what we could see this
Speaker 1: year is Tom, do you remember Antoine Winfield as a
Speaker 1: freshman as a nickelback? Again, Hey, we're.
Speaker 3: Calling people that Orlando pays and I don't let you
Speaker 3: come people to Antoine Winfield. With all the things you've
Speaker 3: said about Antoine Winfield. I don't feel that's responsible.
Speaker 1: It's not it's irresponsible. And I think Antoine Winfield had
Speaker 1: like forty five tackles or something in the true freshman
Speaker 1: I don't expect that. I just you know, maybe how
Speaker 1: about this instead something more palatable like Malcolm Jenkins as
Speaker 1: a freshman as a nickelback or Nate Clements where they're
Speaker 1: out there a whole bunch. Even then that's expecting too much,
Speaker 1: but it's just interesting to see him out there so early.
Speaker 1: So those are my overreactions.
Speaker 2: Tom.
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