WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:02.759 I have to ask you a question here, Bulky, are 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.320 you are you a Ted Lasso fan? Did you have 3 00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:09.000 Apple tea? I do not, And I heard it's great, 4 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:12.119 never watched it, Yeah, I have never seen it either, 5 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:14.400 And I'm always told they're like, Ben, I don't know 6 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:17.879 if you would like this movie. It's very happy, go lucky, 7 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:20.440 It's very it lifts your spirit up. You walk away 8 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:22.679 from it smiling every time you see it. And I'm like, well, 9 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:24.440 I don't know what that says you think about me, 10 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:28.760 but but I might like something like that here. And 11 00:00:28.800 --> 00:00:32.159 I found myself, having never seen ted Lasso the show, 12 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.719 watching Hail Mary with Ryan Gosling yesterday at the theater, 13 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:38.679 being like, this is like if ted Lasso were in space, 14 00:00:38.759 --> 00:00:40.399 because I felt that to be two and a half 15 00:00:40.439 --> 00:00:45.200 hours of just like very uplifting, an inspirational movie. Not 16 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:47.320 the kind of thing I'm gonna sound cold hearted, not 17 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:51.119 the kind of thing that I typically partaken. But it 18 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:52.880 was kind of a nice change of pace for me 19 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:55.759 seeing something that I think I normally wouldn't traditionally see 20 00:00:55.799 --> 00:00:56.759 in the theaters. 21 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:58.799 You wouldn't see this in the theater, I don't think so. 22 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:00.359 I think if we didn't I. 23 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:03.960 Think with anything space you have to see in the theater, 24 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:05.040 you know. 25 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:08.280 It was worth seeing in theater. Yeah, absolutely, And I 26 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:10.239 actually I want to talk about that a little bit 27 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:12.560 with you over the course of this show here. But 28 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:15.799 I do have to say I think just the general plot, 29 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:18.079 there were moments and we'll get into it here, but 30 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:22.120 I felt like the first hour and a half of 31 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:25.159 the movie they didn't take as advantage of how beautiful 32 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:28.000 this movie could look compared to what they did for 33 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:30.159 the last hour there where I just thought we really 34 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:33.040 saw some truly great spectacles. Was that green screen or 35 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:35.120 was that by design? 36 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.920 Though you know, maybe you know there there could have 37 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.799 been a crescendo aspect of that, you know, trying to 38 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:44.840 because it was it was nonlinear storytelling to an extent. 39 00:01:44.920 --> 00:01:45.680 Yeah, I think for. 40 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:48.239 The most part, it was like, you know, even with 41 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:51.200 you have a nonlinear story, it like sort of resolves 42 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:53.200 itself at the at the very end. Sure, we saw 43 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:57.400 it with what the Glen Powell movie we just reviewed, why. 44 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:59.920 Can't I think, Yeah, the how to make a Comet 45 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:00.680 I Medica Killing. 46 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:04.519 Yeah, and so ultimately, you know, you ultimately see the 47 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:08.400 last part last, but it went back in time, you know, 48 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:11.240 to to sort of set up the stakes of how 49 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:14.319 serious this was. And I think at that point when 50 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:19.000 you're getting that emotionally involved into it, into this film, 51 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:22.800 and then you see, you know how this thing is 52 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:25.400 going to resolve itself one way or the other here 53 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:28.680 and you know what's at stake, I think just being 54 00:02:28.759 --> 00:02:36.639 trapped and immersed in that sort of negative sound emptiness 55 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:39.680 of space, you know, but with him and Rocky trying 56 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:42.879 to like figure this out. I don't know. I I think, 57 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:45.280 like this is two and a half hours. If you're 58 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:46.960 gonna do that for the whole movie, I think it 59 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:49.919 takes away from ultimately the enjoyment of it at the end. 60 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:52.680 So towards the end, I'll be honest, and I'm interested 61 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:54.319 what you think about this, because I don't want it 62 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:56.759 to sound like I enjoyed this movie. I don't want to, yeah, 63 00:02:56.879 --> 00:03:00.479 like I created it. But I did find myself thinking 64 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:04.199 of Avatar a little bit the first Avatar while watching it, 65 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:09.039 because my main complaint about Avatar was always Pandora is 66 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:11.759 a cool planet and getting to meet the blue people 67 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:14.400 is fine. Probably could have knocked it out in a 68 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:16.319 half an hour instead of an hour and a half. 69 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:19.599 Yeah, yeah, no, there is not a more. 70 00:03:19.599 --> 00:03:22.280 Action packed part of the movie, and I found myself 71 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:25.080 feeling that way as well. To me, I thought it 72 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:27.240 was a very realistic and not to give too much 73 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:30.000 of the plot away, because based on the trailers, I 74 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:32.360 think this went a route that I didn't necessarily see 75 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:36.759 coming in a lot of ways, him getting to know Rocky, 76 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:39.719 getting to know the alien creature that is put in 77 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:42.919 the trailer there, so not spoiling anything there. It felt 78 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:47.719 very real, like if you met another beam that spoke 79 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:53.240 an entirely different language with no basis to even start. 80 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:59.039 It was pretty cool that that they you know, I 81 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:02.159 so initially I think if you're in space and you 82 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:06.199 run into an alien, immediately you you assume hostility, right, 83 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:09.039 I think that'd be my first reaction. But then to 84 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:12.039 like kind of formulate a way for them to communicate 85 00:04:12.280 --> 00:04:14.560 was crazy. 86 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:17.360 And it felt realistic because I don't know how realistic 87 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:20.079 it was. Well, I mean, he has he's a. 88 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:24.920 Ryland Grace, who was the main protagonist. 89 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:26.319 Yeah, his back. 90 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:29.000 Yeah, he's a smart scientist, but his background was like 91 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:32.399 in molecular chemistry or something like They not in like, 92 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.360 you know, linguistics or anything like that, where this would 93 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:37.079 have been an easy thing for them. 94 00:04:36.920 --> 00:04:40.600 To Oh okay, yeah, from that perspective, yes, they have 95 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:43.000 some technology helping them. But I guess I meant more 96 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:47.120 from a there really wasn't a very elongated period about 97 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:50.160 being nervous about being killed, and I think the plot 98 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:52.720 of the movie kind of takes some of that, some 99 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:56.600 of that angst away without saying too much, the threat 100 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:01.360 of death really wasn't an issue. Meeting an alien race 101 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:03.920 in this movie, oh yeah, totally great. Yeah, I see 102 00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:06.600 yourself because I'm sitting there. At one point, they connect 103 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:09.120 their ships together in the middle of space and it's 104 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.199 this big black tunnel and I'm like, ah my, my 105 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:13.480 horror movie instincts kick in. I'm like, well, cold Day 106 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.680 and hell have ever going in that tunnel? There's no scenario. 107 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.399 And I was like, well, there's one scenario I would 108 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:20.600 go in that tunnel, and that's that's kind of the 109 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:23.360 scenario that he's living through throughout this entire movie here, 110 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:24.959 and I'm like, ah, you know, this is one of 111 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:27.839 the first times ever that a weird noise happens in 112 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:30.439 a dark, scary place and the character goes to investigate 113 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.480 and I'm like, yeah, I probably would do that too. 114 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:36.399 It's not as unrealistic anything else. 115 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:37.800 There's something to be said for it. By the way, 116 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:39.319 I don't know if we mentioned this. We're talking about 117 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:42.040 Project Tail Mary, Yeah, Ryan Gosling directed by. 118 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.199 I think I said that shortly after this last. 119 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:46.959 We haven't talked about the directing team of Lord and Miller, 120 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:50.000 who actually handled the directing duties on this. They've done 121 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:53.399 a ton of cool stuff with like the Spider Verse movies, 122 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:59.240 Igo movies, Like they're really talented. Yeah, anyway, I think 123 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:02.279 the the other thing too is I don't do we 124 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:04.759 know how long they it took them to get to 125 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:07.439 where they were going to this sun? 126 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:09.319 Do we know how long it took them to get there? 127 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:11.639 Two time periods stick out to me. I heard them 128 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:13.920 say eleven years one time, and a different point in 129 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:16.199 the movie I heard them say a little over four years, 130 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.079 So I don't know which one was actually relative. 131 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:24.000 So now, granted he was in suspended animation for that, yeah, 132 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:27.160 for the trip there, so while it was a long time, 133 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:29.199 it maybe did not seem like a long time for him. 134 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:33.519 But still the prospect of waking up in space with 135 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:37.120 amnesia not knowing how you got there and and sort 136 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:39.480 of like the as the memories come back to him, 137 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.759 we're kind of treated to those memories as well, like 138 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:45.879 we're discovering this what he forgot at the same time 139 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:46.480 we're learning for. 140 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:47.319 The first time. 141 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:50.279 But I think that goes into it too, like hostile 142 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:53.160 or not. You know, you are trying, you have a 143 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:55.800 mission that you need to do. You're in the middle 144 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:57.680 of outer space, it took you eleven years to get 145 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:01.800 there or whatever, Like why wouldn't you be more open 146 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:05.920 to the idea of this could be my death if 147 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.360 I investigate this or if I, you know, approach this 148 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:12.279 alien life form or whatever, you would be more open 149 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:14.680 to that, You would be more willing your your courage 150 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:19.680 would go way up. And you know, from the standpoint 151 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.639 of like you're this close to death in space all 152 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:25.160 the time, Yeah, you know, so, why wouldn't you take 153 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:25.720 the chance? 154 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:26.639 And you know so? 155 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:29.959 I think that's that's where the courage comes from in 156 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.000 this aspect. 157 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:32.800 Which is a running theme throughout the entire movie, is 158 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:35.680 bravery finding a reason to take that race in these 159 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:36.279 kinds of things. 160 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:40.439 And he was not a brave guy initially. In Uh again, 161 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:42.839 at that point in the movie. I don't know who 162 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:44.879 would be if you hear the way the mission is 163 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.959 good luck. But I mean even you know, some of 164 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:51.000 these other astronauts that that are super brave or whatever 165 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:55.079 that you know went on this flight voluntarily knowing that 166 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:56.759 they would not be coming back. 167 00:07:57.879 --> 00:07:58.800 And then you you. 168 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:04.040 Have a Gosling's character where he is not a brave 169 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:06.800 guy even on planet Earth. Now he was brave enough, 170 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:09.000 And I would like to see more if you know 171 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.079 you're gonna spend two and a half hours on this film, 172 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:13.680 I would have liked to see more exposition when he 173 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:17.000 was sort of laughed out of whatever conference he was 174 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:20.319 at when he brought up this idea that nobody said 175 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:23.680 was was realistic. Or life can exist without water, life 176 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:25.399 can exist without water exactly. 177 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:28.519 Carbon's hydrogen, oxygen, things like that. So I would have 178 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:30.240 liked to see that more. That would have set it up. 179 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:32.559 But you know, maybe it's better that we didn't, because 180 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:35.840 then that would make him more of an endearing character 181 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:36.480 to us. 182 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:37.480 And I don't know. 183 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.159 If we wanted, Like you know, ultimately we think this 184 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:43.440 this guy's super brave and he's going to outer space 185 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:45.799 to save the world, and then we see these scenes 186 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:48.080 with and I gotta remember her name because I want 187 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:50.000 to bring her up as well, sort of the female lead, 188 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:54.679 and yes, Sondra Huler, Sondra Huler, where she like basically, 189 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:57.679 you know, he tells her I'm not doing this, I 190 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:01.600 can't do this, and we're like, wait, well, you're you're 191 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:04.480 supposed to. This is Project Tail Mary, you have to 192 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:06.480 you know. Like so that kind of caught me off 193 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:08.519 guard a little bit as well. And then ultimately how 194 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:10.799 he ends up going into space. I won't reveal that, 195 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:14.240 but that was interesting too. So we're seeing this guy who, 196 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:17.840 like we are set up for, he is not brave. 197 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.480 He is willing to work and help on his expertise, 198 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.159 but when the bullets started flying for real, he tried 199 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:23.840 to cut and run. 200 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:26.799 Yeah. Absolutely, and you won't even hate him for it. 201 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:29.240 And that happens because of the non linear aspect. That 202 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:32.600 happens fairly late and exactly yeah, and you're like nah, nah, 203 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:34.759 At least I was. I was like, nah, I get it. 204 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:38.080 I totally get it. And like he is coming at 205 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:40.600 it from the perspective I have. You are a family man, 206 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:42.799 You're thinking about it from that perspective. I'm just thinking 207 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:45.120 about it from a perspective, I want to keep watching movies. 208 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:47.840 Yeah, and he has no family in this movie. He 209 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:50.759 has no wife, he has no kids. There's no mention 210 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:53.399 of an extended family like of his parents or any 211 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:56.759 brothers or sisters. So he is like and maybe that 212 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:59.000 was the struggle a little bit like I think they 213 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:01.000 There is a line in the mo too where it's like, 214 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:03.639 it's easy to be brave, you just have to find 215 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:04.960 out who you're. 216 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:05.759 Being brave for. 217 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:09.440 And he didn't, you know, was he being brave for himself? No, 218 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:12.440 it really wasn't. And and then when it came down 219 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:15.039 to saving the world, like he had never been. These 220 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:18.159 are all faceless people that he was saving. So where's the. 221 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:20.919 Two names or two movies come to mind? One makes 222 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:23.879 sense thematically, one absolutely does not. The one that does 223 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:27.159 not make sense is Brave Heart. All men died, not 224 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:32.000 all men truly live, and then Armageddon, every man dies. 225 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:34.559 I'm just gonna be able to die saving the world, 226 00:10:34.639 --> 00:10:36.799 which is what Ben Affleck says, the exactly things he's 227 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:38.639 going to be. The one I was trying to be 228 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:45.720 a spoiler alert, Yeah, I was trying to justify to myself, 229 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:49.440 like how would I convince myself that this was an 230 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:52.000 acceptable route to take, And I think that probably would 231 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.000 have ultimately been my attitude. It's like, well, Ben, you're 232 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:56.960 gonna You're gonna bite it eventually. This is like people 233 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:59.080 are gonna have to memorize your name for tests, for 234 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:01.240 the rest of your for the rest of humanity. Yeah, 235 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:03.919 you can pull this off. That's pretty cool. I think. 236 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:06.320 I think it like if it were me, I even 237 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:09.559 having a wife and kids, I think the decisions kind 238 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:12.000 of made for you, you know. I mean, like, listen, 239 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:15.720 you are the only guy on this planet and we 240 00:11:15.799 --> 00:11:18.559 will die within thirty years or whatever it is. If 241 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:21.240 you don't do this, Like to me, how do you 242 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:23.360 at that point, and this is what it comes down to, 243 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:25.799 at that point, how do you live out those thirty 244 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:28.159 years knowing that there was a chance you could have 245 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:29.279 saved all these people? 246 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:31.519 Oh my god, it would weigh on me every single day. 247 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:34.200 You probably you'd honestly, you probably end up killing yourself, 248 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.480 you know, and then why would you do that when 249 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:39.120 you could have gone to space and it had a 250 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:41.519 meaningful death, you know. So for me, I think it's 251 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:44.559 one of those it's it's what what's the stages of grief. 252 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:45.320 They always talk. 253 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:50.759 About denial, anger, bargaining or whatever, and like at that point, 254 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:53.440 like you would have had to go through that pretty 255 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:56.720 rapidly and then ultimately decided, Okay, I have to do this. 256 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:00.000 Yeah, and they touch. There's definitely an element of whistling 257 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:02.080 past the graveyard in this. Like I thought there was 258 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:04.440 some pretty good one liners in a movie that really 259 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:06.399 isn't a comedy. There were a couple of times where 260 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:10.799 my whole theater was cracking up. We don't know that 261 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:12.320 that was a great line. There were a couple of 262 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:16.440 moments I carry out that it was there was whistling. 263 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.960 But like, realistically, and this might be a controversial take 264 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.200 in your opinion, but the only scene where I think 265 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:24.679 Ryan Gosling was actually acting well was when he is 266 00:12:25.039 --> 00:12:28.799 wrestling with the fact in space that he's not going 267 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:30.960 to make it back and kind of talking with Rocky 268 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.559 about it. I'd argue buying large. He was almost like 269 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:36.080 when Mark Wahlberg plays a scientist, Like I was like, 270 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:38.679 this is just Ryan Gosling in space, Like this isn't acting. 271 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:41.080 This is He's like he's kind of like a Paul 272 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:43.039 Rudd like fill in the blank. Here like one of 273 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:45.519 those actors, Like if you had put Leo in this movie, 274 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:48.919 I think I would have felt the impending doom of 275 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:51.679 the nature of that chap a lot more than I 276 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:53.879 do with Gossling. There was much more of a lighthearted 277 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.159 That's that's why I started the way I did. There's 278 00:12:56.159 --> 00:13:00.080 like this lighthearted, care free attitude, well relative somber. 279 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:02.639 Plot, and think about the movies that he's in, you know, 280 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:05.120 and then think about the movies that DiCaprio is in, 281 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:08.039 like they're so you had to know, like, Okay, this 282 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:10.840 is the guy from remember the Titans, from the nice Guys, 283 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:13.000 you know, from from all these uh you know. 284 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:15.039 I think the heaviest thing he did you remember that. 285 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:17.039 I think it was called Murder by Numbers. 286 00:13:17.159 --> 00:13:20.200 You remember that film Michael Pitts Andrew Bullock with, Like 287 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:21.919 that's probably the heaviest thing he ever did. 288 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:25.200 A drive was super heavy. Yeah, that's right. 289 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:29.240 And I did like Fracture, which I think I brought 290 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:31.039 up with you that that was a great movie too. 291 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:33.759 But but in that there were these moments of levity 292 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:35.879 where he was like this kind of like this cocky 293 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:39.440 guy and brash or whatever. I love the the then 294 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.279 the office style confessionals that he was recording, and Rocky 295 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:45.440 has this supersonic hearing. 296 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:47.600 There were many good funny moments. 297 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:49.559 But I do think but that's Lord and Miller, man. 298 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:51.320 I mean, that's that's what they do. They're they're so 299 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:55.399 good at at at really bringing bringing these these little 300 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:58.559 moments that break up the drama, break up the intensity. 301 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:01.120 Uh and and you actually, you know, can kind of 302 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:03.840 catch your breath and remember you're supposed to be enjoying yourself. 303 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:06.360 Yeah, No, absolutely, And I will say I didn't realize 304 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:09.399 that they were involved in the Spider Verse movies. Yeah, 305 00:14:09.399 --> 00:14:11.120 and I realized I'm a grown ass man. But I'm 306 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:12.759 here to tell you right now, if they stick the 307 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:15.960 landing on this third one, that's the best superhero trilogy 308 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.200 ever made. Talk about it. There was just an update 309 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:18.519 on that. 310 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.159 I think next year they're it's coming out beyond the 311 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:23.480 Spider Verse, the third one. 312 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:25.240 Yeah, there was just an update on the news on it. 313 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:27.080 If they are you up to date? Have you seen 314 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:29.399 the first two? Yeah? Like the first one hit me 315 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:31.720 like a ton of bricks. I watched I was like, 316 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:33.440 this is great, and then the second one I thought 317 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:36.919 was better, And like I went in with elevated expectations 318 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:39.159 that felt like they were met. As long as they 319 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:42.559 don't return to the Jedi this third one, there's a 320 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:45.159 good chance because, like you know, the Dark Knight trilogy 321 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:48.679 is fantastic, but there's there's some gripes with Dark Knight rises. Yeah, 322 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:52.440 the first Captain America leaves a bit to be desired. Ye, 323 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:55.519 this one if they stick it. So I didn't realize 324 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:57.240 they were involved in These guys have a talent. 325 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:00.080 Yeah, Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs. They did that 326 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:02.919 one as well. I also forgot about this, and I 327 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:04.639 love these movies. I don't know how you feel about them, 328 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:07.000 but they did twenty one and twenty two Jump Street, Yeah, 329 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:08.320 which are fantastic. 330 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:11.679 I actually use those as two of the last contemporary 331 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.279 examples of real comedies. Like when I would say, I 332 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:16.600 was like, guys, like now, comedies are making a bit 333 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:19.759 of a comeback, But I would say, when's the last time? 334 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:21.720 I was like twenty two Jump Street, I think is 335 00:15:21.759 --> 00:15:24.240 the last real comedy, right, it has come out in 336 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.679 a very long time. But that was especially the first one. 337 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:27.759 The first one killed me. 338 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:30.159 This was actually this was the first movie they had 339 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:32.120 directed since twenty two Jump Jump Street. 340 00:15:32.960 --> 00:15:33.320 Yeah. 341 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:36.639 Now they were involved as producers with the Lego movies, 342 00:15:37.159 --> 00:15:40.399 the Lego Batman and Lego Ninjago, but they actually did 343 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:42.399 direct the original Lego. 344 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:44.000 And even the Lego Like, it takes a lot for 345 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:45.879 me to watch a kid's movie, Like, I've kind of 346 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:48.080 moved on from that stuff. I loved the first Lego 347 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:49.159 and Lego Batman. 348 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:52.720 The first Lego movie was awesome. Yeah, like it was 349 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:57.320 so so good, and the Batman one was fine. That 350 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:00.879 was more of like, you know, okay, you ate your 351 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:02.919 vegetables and now you can have. 352 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:05.919 Your sugary dessert here. With Lego Batman, it just was 353 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:08.440 you know, I've revised this, but it was a running 354 00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:11.399 gag back in Pittsburgh when I saw The Batman back 355 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:13.879 in twenty twenty two. Yeah, like everyone knew how I 356 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:16.320 felt about superhero movies. They're like, well, what'd you think? 357 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:18.200 And I said it was the fourth best Batman movie 358 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:19.960 I've ever seen, and they were like, that's crazy. You 359 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:21.960 didn't like the Batman? Well no, no, But they were like, 360 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:23.559 what were the first three? And I said The Dark 361 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:25.919 Knight Batman nineteen eighty nine, and then I go and 362 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:29.120 fight me the Lego Batman. Oh yeah, but I've since 363 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.120 revised and I still have it. Third now I still 364 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:34.879 like just for nostalgia purposes eighty nine. And then Dark Knight, 365 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:35.759 I think is just. 366 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:39.759 I just yeah, I mean, that's that's about as close 367 00:16:39.799 --> 00:16:42.320 to a perfect superhero movie as your. 368 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:44.840 Every way Yeah, Dark Knight or The Batman Dark Knight. Yeah, no, 369 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:45.799 you'll just you. 370 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:49.600 Know, the Batman was good. The Batman had elements of that. 371 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:51.840 I think the problem, I don't know what what I 372 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:56.759 had the issue I had because I think formulaic, formulaically 373 00:16:56.960 --> 00:17:00.320 if that's a word word, yeah, allow it there. They're 374 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:04.680 laid out very similar, the Batman and The Dark Knight, absolutely, 375 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:08.000 and for whatever reason, maybe it's just the charisma of 376 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:11.279 Heath Ledger probably and that's probably the difference, honestly, uh, 377 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:14.720 because Paul Dana was great as the Riddler, right, but 378 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:20.240 at the same time, there was just this incredible mystique 379 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.680 of what Ledger did with that character. Maybe that's just 380 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:25.599 obviously the separator between the two. 381 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:27.920 I'm telling you when I know we're thoroughly off topic 382 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:29.960 at this point, but I don't hate it. Anyone who 383 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:33.519 who enjoyed that movie read or watch. They made an 384 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:36.079 animated version of it, but check out Hush because that 385 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:38.400 was one of the two comments that inspired it that 386 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:40.880 if they had done Paul Dano like that Riddler, I 387 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:43.640 think there would have been a different attitude towards his character. 388 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:44.759 I thought it was very forgettable. 389 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:49.680 Did you see the uh the cut scene with Batman 390 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:51.000 and the Joker and the Batman? 391 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:53.079 Yeah, pretty cool. I wish they left it in. And 392 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:54.720 it was a three hour movie. I would have waited 393 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:55.799 extra three minutes for that. 394 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.039 Well, they're then they're making a sequel, so I don't 395 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:00.200 know if and I forget the guy's name, he's he's 396 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:01.519 actually a pretty it's. 397 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:05.000 It's the the dude who creates the cult in the Eternals. 398 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:05.839 I don't know his name. 399 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:08.839 Yeah, he's a Scottish actor. He was he was in 400 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:13.359 the oh, what was the Brendan Gleeson Colin Farrell movie 401 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:15.759