WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:05.160 Welcome to Passion of the Soul with me Elena Lieberman, 2 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:09.800 the New Power Hour for your Consciousness. This is the 3 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:14.439 space where you awaken to your authentic potential, the truth 4 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:18.559 of who you really are. Here we open the mind 5 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:22.679 and heart and tune into the essence of the soul, 6 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:28.199 the force that fuels your entire being and invites miracles 7 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:32.759 into your life. Each episode inspires you to respond to 8 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:37.520 the layers of potential within you and bring your unique 9 00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:42.479 legacy into the world. As you listen and watch, you'll 10 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:47.119 discover that you can be the answer to your own quest. 11 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:52.520 Get ready to tune into your innermost voice and live 12 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:57.079 in alignment with your highest truth. Passion of the Soul 13 00:00:57.439 --> 00:01:07.200 starts now. Hello everyone, I'm your host, ellenor Lieberman, and 14 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:12.599 you are listening to Passion of the Soul on Transformation 15 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:17.959 Talk Radio. Stay with us this hour and let us 16 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:25.319 help you experience the New Power Hour for your Consciousness. 17 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:30.400 Every first and third Thursday of the month, five pm 18 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:35.879 Pacific eight pm Eastern, we will bring you some of 19 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:43.159 the most brilliant visionaries, artists, healers, and authors who have 20 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:53.319 walked miraculous journeys inspiring you. Tonight is episode ten risk 21 00:01:53.920 --> 00:02:01.439 to become? How do clarity, risk, and authenticity shape the 22 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:07.719 person we are designed to be? Author Patti elvi shares 23 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:14.039 how she recognizes inner clarity, understands risk as an invitation 24 00:02:14.879 --> 00:02:19.199 rather than a threat, and makes choices that reflect what 25 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:25.759 is most true. Patty reveals the pathway of embracing risk 26 00:02:26.439 --> 00:02:33.639 trusting yourself to make courageous and honest choices. Our guest tonight, 27 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:40.000 Patti Elviy is the author of Practicing the Art of Becoming. 28 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:46.400 She is a trusted advisor and strategist to executives, and 29 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:51.560 she has stood beside leaders as they've built the impossible 30 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:59.719 across industries, across decades, and across thresholds of deep personal becoming. 31 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:05.240 Her gift seeing the essence of what wants to emerge 32 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:12.240 quickly that mapping the most aligned, actionable, and soul satisfying 33 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:20.000 path forward. Welcome Patty, Thank you Ellen. 34 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:23.599 That's the beautiful introduction. I really appreciate it, and it's 35 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:24.400 wonderful to be here. 36 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:30.080 Well, it's absolutely wonderful to have you here tonight. And 37 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:36.280 before we even move into questions, would you please share 38 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:41.400 the moments in your actual miraculous life and some of 39 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:46.439 the turning points that really influenced you in your personal story. 40 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:51.840 That's the whole hour I could do that, and that 41 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:55.120 continues all the time that there's a couple. One in 42 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:57.840 particular i'd have to say is there was a turning 43 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:05.680 point where I recognized in a training room that it 44 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:08.599 was okay to give myself permission to be responsible for 45 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:13.319 my own joy, my own life, my own decisions, where 46 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.560 prior to that time I had struggled with outer judgment 47 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:20.920 a lot, a lot of support. I was still taking risks, 48 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:26.199 but there was discomfort within me because it wasn't the 49 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:30.680 popular choice. So whenever I was in this room and 50 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.240 there was some directive, it became just so clear to me. 51 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:36.360 It's like a light bulb went off. And to me 52 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:38.839 it was surprising because I wasn't that young. It's like 53 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:40.720 I've had a lot of life experiences. I was kind 54 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:43.720 of a smart girl. The cow did I not know that? 55 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:48.680 How did I let the world decide everything? How? Somehow 56 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:51.720 I thought it was an outer thing. Although my inner experience, 57 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:54.720 which is the other part of the miracle, began like 58 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:56.720 when I was four days old, I think it really 59 00:04:56.720 --> 00:05:02.439 began before I even entered here an end, but I 60 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:06.240 had a very close relationship with spirit, with Jesus, and 61 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:09.720 that was always always primary in my life. But I 62 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:15.120 still had somehow let other people be more important. So 63 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:17.480 when I realized it's it's up to me, my life 64 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:20.399 changed completely. And it was very quickly. I realized they 65 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:24.800 talked about comfort zundes, and it's like I already didn't 66 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:27.480 have one. And I never noticed that about me until 67 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:32.800 I started looking at me through less filtered eyes. They didn't. 68 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:35.439 My eyes didn't get clear till much later, but a 69 00:05:35.480 --> 00:05:40.040 lot of the filters were removed and I began a 70 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:43.040 much more beautiful life. That was my choice. 71 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:47.279 Oh that's just wonderful. Now I have to tell you 72 00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:50.319 that one thing that just jumped out of out of 73 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:55.279 me in your book was what you call flying high 74 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:59.199 sometimes you called steroid of heaven on the wings of 75 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:03.839 an eagle. It was very significant. So let me ask you, 76 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:09.839 what is this vantage point and how is it transformative? 77 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:15.439 I think I started with that. I think it's my 78 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.079 book started with that. Where you know, it's like as 79 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:22.000 I just knew I was meant to fly somehow I 80 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:26.480 knew I was meant to not be held down. There 81 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:29.120 was a lightness that I wanted that I believed in, 82 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:31.920 and I think it started very early. I think that 83 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:37.000 I came in this lifetime with not wanting to be 84 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:39.839 weighed down. I had that reference point in my consciousness 85 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:44.399 and eventually in my actions that reminded me of where 86 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:47.240 it came from, which was absolute light. You know we 87 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:50.480 all do. And that lightness to me was not a burden. 88 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:55.959 The heaviness of a body, the being cold here wasn't 89 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:57.720 something we are taught that we can be in both 90 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:01.160 places at the same time. So experienced it as like 91 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:04.879 I need to soar, I cannot not want to grow roots. 92 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:07.759 I just wasn't. It wasn't my path and it was 93 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:10.480 again unique, It was a risk, It was a constant 94 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:16.480 battle with others. But I experienced this lifting that kept 95 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:20.879 me happy, kept me conscious, It kept me joyful and focused. 96 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:24.480 And you know, I write about various times where you know, 97 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:26.639 when you're flying, it's kind of like the birds. You know, 98 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:29.319 you run into a window now and then and it 99 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:33.160 knocks a little bit of reality of like, oh, no, 100 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:36.000 I'm here, I'm not there. But the other thing I 101 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:39.160 think is really funny about that is when we were young, 102 00:07:39.399 --> 00:07:43.759 remember the stork, It was like ball from the sky. 103 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:47.040 It's like, oh wow, I remember that, I remember falling 104 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.079 from the sky. I want to go back. So there's 105 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:52.519 this essence of of soaring that was just in my DNA. 106 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:58.000 Oh well, how does this higher vision a line in 107 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:01.759 a person that reveals it's their higher self or inner 108 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:06.000 process when they fly high? How does it reveal to 109 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.199 them who they truly are from the height? 110 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:12.319 Well, I think that's the most important part of it, 111 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:16.199 and that's what I call altitude. Because when we're here 112 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.480 and this is an everyday thing. W I'm sure when 113 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:20.120 this is over, I'll get some more out. I'll take 114 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:23.079 a look from above how did it go? But it's 115 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:27.839 the aspect of seeing a broader perspective because when we 116 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:31.079 were higher and we'd look down, you might I find 117 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:37.759 that there's spaces between some of the situation scenarios, activities, whatever, 118 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:42.000 personal behaviors and relationships. Suddenly there's a little space. So 119 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:45.279 it makes more sense to view them from above, view 120 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:50.120 them with altitude. And also I think there's when I'm flying, 121 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:53.360 I have to pay attention to flying. I'm from the serving, 122 00:08:53.440 --> 00:08:55.039 but I'm not getting into all the things that I 123 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:57.600 would normally if I was sitting in a chair. There's 124 00:08:57.320 --> 00:09:00.759 this focus on what you see below because you're paying 125 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:04.639 attention to the flight and building. That's wonderful and it 126 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:08.039 gives a lot of information. We can become more neutral 127 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:10.559 from above, can well. 128 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:14.279 That's wonderful. Yes, yes, And you know you don't come 129 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:16.840 out and say hi yourself or anything like that. You 130 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:20.960 completely own it as your total self. That's not's so 131 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:22.600 interesting about it? 132 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:23.480 Now. 133 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:28.159 You also talk about clarity as something that can change 134 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:32.720 the direction of a person's life. What does true clarity 135 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:36.720 actually feel like when someone discovers it. 136 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:40.799 I don't I know how it is for me, and 137 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:44.000 I believe we all have our own version of that. 138 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:46.519 But the most important thing is to know there is 139 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:50.399 a version of that and discover a pathway to it, 140 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:54.600 get support, get conversations with other people that have that. 141 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:57.480 Talk about those things. But it's an inner clarity, it's 142 00:09:57.519 --> 00:09:59.679 not an outer clarity. It's not something written on a 143 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:04.039 black ord or even written in a book. Each person's 144 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:10.000 clarity relates to their relationship with themselves, their willingness to 145 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:13.440 learn about themselves, to understand what they want with that 146 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:15.399 aren't broad It's like, oh, I want to be rich, 147 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:18.080 like what does that mean? You know what's going to 148 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:20.399 bring you? So maybe what it is you don't want 149 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:22.399 to be rich, but you want to have an experience 150 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:25.200 that somehow you relate to rich. But maybe it's just 151 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:29.320 simply joy, you know. So there's ways of finding that 152 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:34.200 clarity that become a stepping stone in your own life, 153 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:38.120 and it's it's part of the art. Part of the art. 154 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:43.080 Now, I want to ask you, is the choice to 155 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:50.320 taste take risks in life interwoven with this soaring up, 156 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:55.399 this higher vision? When you choose to risk, how does 157 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:57.320 it tie in with that higher vision? 158 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:01.559 Well, taking the first step off the building to fly, 159 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:07.320 you know that window, that's trying risk, Trusting that I 160 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.840 have wings, that's it. That's a lot of trust, I think. 161 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:12.200 Really the essence of that is I trusted that I 162 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:16.159 had wings. I trusted that I could fly. I believed 163 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.759 that I was destined to fly because what I was 164 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:21.399 living around me didn't seem to make a lot of sense. 165 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:25.360 But yet I didn't mind it. But I just felt 166 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:32.399 this inner desire to lighten up, and the lighting up 167 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:35.480 was literally taking flight to me. And it was in 168 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.279 my imagination, certainly in my creative imagination, but it filtered 169 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:41.879 into how I felt about every day in my life, 170 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:47.679 and I began to envision or there's a feeling that 171 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:50.799 comes with can you imagine being an eagle? There was 172 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:54.200 an egret in my garden today. I had never seen 173 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.240 one here, spectacular and the wings were so giant and 174 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.279 it's soreed and I fell in love. 175 00:12:02.679 --> 00:12:06.360 Well, this is really wonderful, Patty, And you know it's 176 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:10.000 time to go on a little break. But before we do, 177 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:15.480 I want everyone to get your information and please share 178 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:22.039 this fabulous offer that you're going to be doing for 179 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:25.559 our listeners. So go ahead and give us the information. 180 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.240 So, first of all, thank you all for joining and 181 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:32.159 hope you stick with us for more tips of becoming 182 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.639 after the break. There's two things. One is my book. 183 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:38.240 So all things about my book, Practicing the Art of 184 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:42.600 Becoming are available by simply searching Patty lb author, and 185 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:45.080 that immediately takes you to my book page at Simon 186 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:47.919 and Schuster, where they'll list all the places to buy 187 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:51.320 my book with just one click. I also narrated my 188 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:55.360 own audiobook and it's available on Audible and Spotify. Now 189 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:59.360 the offering I have just for TTN is a complimentary 190 00:12:59.480 --> 00:13:04.000 thirty minute zoom session with me. I call it design 191 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:08.480 your affirmation and up level your clarity, up level your life. 192 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:12.159 We'll spend thirty minutes together and I will answer some 193 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:14.720 questions and I'd love to get to know you. 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You have worked with 249 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:39.279 some very famous people and did you consider them a 250 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:42.720 risk to work with them or were they kind of 251 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:46.119 risky business? How did you how did you can name 252 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:49.119 some of them and how did how did that go? 253 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:51.440 What was the risk or did you feel you were 254 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:52.279 taking a risk? 255 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:58.400 I had this I don't know code of my life, 256 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:01.920 which is what do you do? I do whatever it takes. 257 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:06.039 And each of these opportunities were presented to me. I 258 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:08.680 wasn't looking for jobs. I almost never looked for a 259 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:11.160 job in my whole life. Think someone would come to me, 260 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:13.519 hear of me, offer me something. And these, you know, 261 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:16.400 we're some exciting people. They're on my LinkedIn. I'm not 262 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:19.000 going to mention them here, but they're like, okay, I 263 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:21.440 want to honor them. I always I can mention George, 264 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:25.160 you know, George Carlin. That was a very special situation. 265 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:31.000 And again they came to me through unusual, spirit directed situations, 266 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:34.000 and because of that, I don't consider it a risk. 267 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:37.640 I think partly because of my trust and faith and 268 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:41.000 when something comes to me, it's coming to me on purpose. 269 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:47.039 I have this un yielding trust that my life is 270 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.440 designed by spirit, and so I don't want to question it. 271 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:54.440 It's like, if something comes to me, I just go 272 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:59.440 with it's really really interesting. But I've never regretted it. 273 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:01.599 I've never looked back. Some things were harder than Otherre's 274 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:04.039 some things I did I could have done better, you 275 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.160 know for sure. But I have a lot of joy 276 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:11.240 when I realized saying yes. It's always brought me amazing lessons, 277 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:17.279 amazing amazing chances to become more authentic, to take risks. 278 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:19.440 But I hardly ever think of them as risks. 279 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:26.359 Oddly wonderful. Well, you know, you direct people towards a 280 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:31.079 deeper relationship with risk. So how do you actually define 281 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:36.599 risk in a way that goes beyond danger or fear 282 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:41.160 like that invitation idea? How do you actually define risk 283 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:45.440 for these people so they're not viewing it fearfully? 284 00:19:46.039 --> 00:19:47.920 Well, first of all, I don't define it. They do. 285 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:51.279 So that's a conversation where it could be that a 286 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:54.319 risk for them is as simple as learning to drive, 287 00:19:54.920 --> 00:19:57.720 or as simple as making their first meal for their 288 00:19:57.759 --> 00:19:59.720 in laws. I mean, there's all kinds of risk, and 289 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:02.640 then there's risk to start a company, to go for it, 290 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:07.279 to you know, trust the process to do a startup. 291 00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:09.880 I mean, you know Ariana Huffington, for instance, You know 292 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:12.680 she had a global vision. When I started with her, 293 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:16.359 she had a blog, a single blog and built a 294 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:20.200 multi million dollar company in a very short time. Powerful stuff. 295 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:24.839 So for me, because I've seen it done, I know 296 00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:27.279 it can be done. But when I work with a 297 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.119 lot of the ordinary people in the world that haven't 298 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:33.079 done that and don't have that giant vision. Everybody has 299 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:36.359 something that they'd like and something's keeping them from it. 300 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:40.920 And maybe it's starting with defining what's the first most 301 00:20:40.920 --> 00:20:44.960 important thing, what about this step. It's breaking it down 302 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:47.720 to where you don't have to learn how to jump 303 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:49.920 off the high dive just because you want to learn 304 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:53.759 to swim. That kind of, for instance, gets you to 305 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:56.200 put your toe in the water first, you know, buy 306 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:58.000 a pretty bathing suit. Then you'll want to go to 307 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:00.200 the pool. You know, there's all kinds of it. 308 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:08.279 Just now, how does someone know whether a risk is 309 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:13.519 reckless or whether it's actually an invitation to be more authentic? 310 00:21:14.160 --> 00:21:16.720 You know, we think, oh, he's reckless, so he's taking 311 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:18.680 risks gambling you know. 312 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:21.960 Yeah, well yeah, that's not what I think. Part of 313 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:23.920 the reckless is not what other people think it is. 314 00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:26.160 It's what they think it is. That's very big portion 315 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.319 of it. Because most people think my life would probably 316 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:33.039 pretty risky from a long time ago, and so that's 317 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:35.680 the first thing. What is it to that person? And 318 00:21:35.720 --> 00:21:39.119 then also is are you willing to do this risky 319 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:42.440 thing and have no regrets if it doesn't go your way? 320 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:44.839 Or are you willing to do it and do whatever 321 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:47.839 it takes to keep achieving and moving in the direction 322 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:52.799 of that goal. That risk and risks aren't meant to 323 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:57.480 be self sabotaging, Like you know, I'm going to you know, 324 00:21:57.519 --> 00:21:59.960 swim across the English Channel, but you know, I've never 325 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.240 been in a pool. So there's all kinds of ways 326 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:11.839 to monitor and to allow the risk to be not 327 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:16.440 only manifested, but also renegotiating is part of it too. 328 00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:18.799 It's like I thought that's what I wanted. I thought 329 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:21.839 I had what it takes. Okay, So right if you say, 330 00:22:21.920 --> 00:22:23.200 now let's do this other thing? 331 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:30.119 Yes, yes, So how do people actually recognize where they 332 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:34.000 have a fear of risk and it's limiting them. What 333 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:37.119 are some examples of that kind of thing. They may 334 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:40.119 not even know that they're afraid to take risks and 335 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:40.920 they're limited. 336 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:43.599 I think the first thing is to ask people what 337 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:46.279 do you want? That's where it has to start. So 338 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:48.759 that's my first question when I work with people, it's like, 339 00:22:48.839 --> 00:22:51.839 so what do you want? And that becomes a conversation 340 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:55.880 that we find out what it is with clarity, because 341 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:58.279 a lot of people get big picture versus little picture, 342 00:22:58.359 --> 00:23:04.400 versus truth versus details clarity. But then also it's a 343 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:09.559 matter of defining little steps that can you get there? 344 00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:12.279 Is it possible? What are your loitations? Why haven't you 345 00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:14.160 done it yet? How long do you want to take 346 00:23:14.160 --> 00:23:17.599 to get it? And to me, none of it, honestly doesn't. 347 00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:20.039 I don't feel any of it as risks. So I 348 00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:23.319 can communicate in a way that people start to realize, 349 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:27.240 oh my goodness, it's doable by looking at it through 350 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:31.000 a different filter, not the filter of fear I'll probably fail. 351 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:33.079 And what do people think? It's not what anybody else does, 352 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:36.079 but instead looking through what is it possible for me? 353 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:42.640 According to them, when they choose risks, how do they 354 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:46.599 realize that it relates to freedom? You talk about freedom 355 00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:51.359 in your book, choosing risk could relate to completely freeing them. 356 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:55.920 That's an amazing concept that I found in your book. 357 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:58.160 This idea of taking the risks so you will be 358 00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:01.200 free is very interesting. 359 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.440 And well, I think that freedom by not taking risks 360 00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:06.480 or not having what you want or not going for 361 00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:10.480 what you want. There are those limitations can be ball 362 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:13.200 and chain. They can. I think at one point I said, 363 00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:15.839 I felt like I had been tied to a chain 364 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:20.519 my whole life until that moment I described in the beginning, 365 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:22.680 when oh my god, it's up to me. That's chain 366 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:25.480 isn't mine, it's theirs, and I walked away and started 367 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.160 my own, my own path. So it's a matter of 368 00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:35.319 what's what's going to set them into something different than 369 00:24:35.319 --> 00:24:37.759 where they are. So I think it is if you 370 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:39.599 really wanted that and that was freedom for you, why 371 00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:41.720 aren't you in it yet? Let's find a way to 372 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:44.880 get you closer and maybe design a path to get 373 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:45.519 you all the way. 374 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:52.039 Yes, yes, And here's an interesting thing. Can taking a 375 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:57.640 risk bring deeper peace and in a direction to your life? 376 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:00.720 And how how does the risk actually to peace? 377 00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:05.920 I'd say by dissecting it, you know, by checking it out. 378 00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:08.480 Did that work for me? Oh my goodness, that didn't 379 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:10.400 feel good. I don't want to do it again. So 380 00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:14.839 it's a learning like using everything for our learning advancement, upliftment, 381 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.440 our direction which leads to freedom. If freedom is something 382 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:21.759 we want or somebody wants how can they have that? 383 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:23.920 And sometimes it's not what they think it will be. 384 00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:26.799 It gets them to the freedom. It could be a 385 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:31.559 very simple mind pattern, you know, a way of thinking 386 00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:36.440 about themselves, giving up judgments of others. A lot of 387 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:40.319 subtle things of way of being, like discovering your authentic being. 388 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:44.279 You know, embracing risk and discovering your authentic being are 389 00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.799 very tied together. The risk would be like, go with 390 00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:49.960 things and patterns that I've had, things I've judged about others, 391 00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:54.279 judged about myself, forgiving just whatever might be in the 392 00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:57.680 way of getting to this, or it's our authentic nature, 393 00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:01.839 the way we were designed uniquely to be. We were 394 00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:05.119 never all designed to be the same, but we all 395 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:06.200 started the same. 396 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:14.359 Yes, absolutely, And sometimes people actually see a very large well, 397 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:18.559 they don't see the higher and larger picture. It's very risky, 398 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:21.200 and they see parts of it and think that's the 399 00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:26.000 whole pursuit instead of really giving over and saying no, 400 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:29.359 that's just one phase of a very large picture. But 401 00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:33.240