Speaker 1: This is the seventy seven w ABC Mini cast. She
Speaker 1: worked for President Trump, for presidents and all Trump and
Speaker 1: Reagan on this show every Friday, The Great Kt McFarland
Speaker 1: and I think you would agree those last sixty three
Speaker 1: seconds that's why you gotta love them, right Kat?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that and a whole lot of other reasons. I mean,
Speaker 2: the policies are just terrific. But does last couple of
Speaker 2: seconds you bet that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, that's it. No, that's it, you know.
Speaker 1: And there's still a lot of people very angry with me.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll be on pox news anytime soon.
Speaker 1: I in fact, I bet I'm not going to be.
Speaker 1: And I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it because
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything really bad. I explained to Grip
Speaker 1: Jenkins where I was coming from using that word to
Speaker 1: describe Mom Donnie. And I still think I'm right. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to apologize. They don't put me on their channel.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: I look great, I sound the ratings are great. It's
Speaker 1: their loss, it's not mine. I sound like Trump, that's
Speaker 1: right to God. But I'm being serious. I said a
Speaker 1: word they didn't like, tough. That's who Mum Donnie is,
Speaker 1: and that's President Trump. He says stuff all the time.
Speaker 1: People don't like tough with telling the truth.
Speaker 2: No, it's a great thing about President Trump. And I
Speaker 2: can tell you this having been with him in the
Speaker 2: Oval Office and then walked out and watched him talk
Speaker 2: to the press. He says the same thing in the
Speaker 2: Oval Office that he says to the American people. It's unfurnished.
Speaker 2: It's not like he's thinking, oh, what word is going
Speaker 2: to work the best, or I shouldn't say this, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to sound like a true president. He just
Speaker 2: says it as he sees it. And I think that's
Speaker 2: something really refreshing in politics. I mean, what political leader
Speaker 2: can you think of who actually tells you to your
Speaker 2: face what he's thinking, including if it's something not very nice.
Speaker 1: How many That's why I love this guy. But again,
Speaker 1: as I said earlier, remained critical. This Iran thing is
Speaker 1: still a mess. It's a mess.
Speaker 2: It's greed. You disagree, I disagree. I think the Iran
Speaker 2: thing is going pretty well. You do, yeah, not in
Speaker 2: an obvious way, but in a more subtle way. When
Speaker 2: you think of the sort of what's what's the best
Speaker 2: outcome in Iran that we could have, all right, no
Speaker 2: nukes for sure, open the straight for sure, a regional.
Speaker 1: Well, by the way, not by the way, not one
Speaker 1: of those things were happening. That's over two, he's over two.
Speaker 2: Gad programmers.
Speaker 1: No, he's done a very good jump, he's done a
Speaker 1: very good jumb But but but, Katie, but he could
Speaker 1: have stopped with Midnight Hammer. He didn't need the last
Speaker 1: three months Midnight Hammer did so much damage to their
Speaker 1: new program. And all he's done the last couple of months,
Speaker 1: with all these stoppages, is allowing them to find new
Speaker 1: mountain places to build more stuff. They still have the dust.
Speaker 1: Let's have an honest conversation. Okay, Midnight Hammer was enough
Speaker 1: the last three months. We're helping them and they still
Speaker 1: have the dust. Okay, and the IRGC is still running
Speaker 1: the show. You can disagree, but I'm I'm a thousand
Speaker 1: percent right. What don't we done the last three months
Speaker 1: to stop their new program? The last three months? What
Speaker 1: have we done?
Speaker 2: We've gotten Armada there the first if they ever pop
Speaker 2: their heads up again and try to rebuild what they have, bombit.
Speaker 1: You don't think right, you don't think you don't think
Speaker 1: right now as we speak, these last couple of months,
Speaker 1: with all these ceasefires and stoppages, they haven't been actively
Speaker 1: trying to rebuild all that stuff. Come on, you know
Speaker 1: better of course.
Speaker 2: They are now. I think you don't try it, and
Speaker 2: some I think clearing the rebel is not rebuilding a
Speaker 2: nuclear program. Number one. Number two, what's happened in the
Speaker 2: last several months. You know, six months ago, a year ago,
Speaker 2: thirty years ago, fifty years ago, Iran could use the
Speaker 2: straight up Hormuz to jerk the world around over the
Speaker 2: price of oil. They could do it at their will.
Speaker 2: They could do it at their whim, and the world
Speaker 2: had to pay attention. What's happened now in the last
Speaker 2: three or four months. The price of oil isn't moving,
Speaker 2: whether we're having a ceasfire, whether we don't have a ceasefire,
Speaker 2: it's always at about eighty dollars a barrel. That's the
Speaker 2: huge We have taken away their major threat to the world,
Speaker 2: which is their ability to influence the price of oil.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of other things have happened, you know, people,
Speaker 2: but countries are buying from America, They're not buying from
Speaker 2: the Middle East. Because the Middle East is too valuable.
Speaker 2: The Middle East countries are building pipelines, the UAE in particular,
Speaker 2: they're getting their oil out in other ways they don't.
Speaker 2: Iran's ability to hold the world hostage has greatly diminished,
Speaker 2: and I think within several years it will be gone.
Speaker 2: They won't be able to use the Strait of Marmuse
Speaker 2: because countries will buy their oil from America or other
Speaker 2: safe places, but mostly America, or they'll buy their oil
Speaker 2: from pipelines that is coming away from the Strait of Marmouse.
Speaker 2: Now that's taking away a power Iran has had for
Speaker 2: decades to hold the world hostage. Number two the IRGC.
Speaker 2: They're weakened. Now, are they a rogue? Are they going
Speaker 2: to sabotage every deal? You bet? Will they ever sign
Speaker 2: a deal? Not a chance. But what's happening over time
Speaker 2: is the Iranian economy is getting so hammered that they've
Speaker 2: got to be losing power so that one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty thousand people and the IRGC are not going to
Speaker 2: hold ninety million people hostage. The best outcome would be
Speaker 2: a slow rolling coup that the Iranian people themselves impose upon.
Speaker 1: Their stop it. Then you better do what me and
Speaker 1: Levin had been saying for months. Doesn't matter how many
Speaker 1: people up against how many people they got guns. They've
Speaker 1: already mowed down fifty thousand innocent people in the streets.
Speaker 1: They're not going to run there with rocks and go
Speaker 1: after these people. So the idea of the people are
Speaker 1: taking over and I love you to pieces is so ludicrous,
Speaker 1: ludicrous unless the United States is ready to provide the
Speaker 1: civilians with guns.
Speaker 2: Or if the United States, combined with Israel and the
Speaker 2: other Arab countries in the region, takes out a lot
Speaker 2: of the IRGC leadership, as President's Rump says, we're talking
Speaker 2: to the third tier. Well, but that's my point, to
Speaker 2: the tenth tier.
Speaker 1: But that's my point. Once they have ten tiers, they've
Speaker 1: got twenty tiers, they've got thirty tiers. Okay, they're like roaches,
Speaker 1: they just multiply. So unless you take out ten tiers,
Speaker 1: not two or three, then you are destined to have
Speaker 1: the same issues in seven years. I mean, you talked
Speaker 1: about a couple of years from now. What do you
Speaker 1: mean a couple of years from now? What if God
Speaker 1: would be the Democrats win in twenty twenty eight, This
Speaker 1: will all be undone we have. There's no guarantee that
Speaker 1: a couple of years from now, the straight goal the
Speaker 1: way we wanted to go. You're basing all that on Trump.
Speaker 1: He's gone in two years. No, he's done.
Speaker 2: No. I think the price of oil. I think that
Speaker 2: the world has soured on the Middle East, is especially
Speaker 2: Iran as a source of oil. Okay, and that's not
Speaker 2: going to turn around. That's going to continue to degrade.
Speaker 2: And the other thing, and the main price here is
Speaker 2: what was Iran. Well, Iran, you stabilized the entire region,
Speaker 2: threatened Israel, et cetera, threatened the world, but it also
Speaker 2: was a foothold that China had in the region. And
Speaker 2: that of the main part of this is that bigger
Speaker 2: picture is that the United States is now kind of
Speaker 2: pushing China out of the Middle East. And I think
Speaker 2: the Abraham Accords will work. I think that they will expand,
Speaker 2: and I think Iran's leadership group will be diminished, diminished, diminuted.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to what you just said,
Speaker 1: because then you proof of some of these things. They
Speaker 1: sound great, and again, I love you one Trump, we
Speaker 1: are pushing China out of the Middle East, where or how.
Speaker 2: China has used Iran, has has bought Iran's China's money.
Speaker 1: You do realize that China is still providing you on
Speaker 1: with weapons, and you know that, I know you know that.
Speaker 2: It's providing Iran with intelligence. I think it's buying Iran's oil.
Speaker 2: It's increasingly difficult for China to buy Iran's discounted oil.
Speaker 2: And as a result of that, or one of the
Speaker 2: reasons that Iran is diminished is that it's losing money,
Speaker 2: is making no money. And because we figured out not
Speaker 2: just with you know, epic fury, but mostly with economic fury,
Speaker 2: is that we found a way to shut down almost
Speaker 2: all of Iran's illegal money coming in and they're illicit
Speaker 2: money now. Illicit money come in the cryptocurrencies, the offshore
Speaker 2: bank accounts that are in the other golfare of states,
Speaker 2: the way iron has been selling oil to China. At
Speaker 2: this discoun we're shutting down the ghost fleets that the
Speaker 2: tankers that oil was moving on. So I think it
Speaker 2: diminishes China because it takes away China's cheap source of oil.
Speaker 2: It diminishes Iran because it destroys Aroun's economy. And now
Speaker 2: maybe they are going to be you know, guys with
Speaker 2: guns who are just going to mow down ninety million people. Maybe,
Speaker 2: I certainly hope that we are doing with Iran what
Speaker 2: Pritt Reagan did during the Cold War, which is helping
Speaker 2: in many ways helping the opposition forces within Iran.
Speaker 1: Now you know, of course that I love President Trump
Speaker 1: and I love you, and I have to just provide
Speaker 1: pushback on the radio because you know, people hear Trumps
Speaker 1: saying the same things that you're saying, and they say
Speaker 1: to me, I don't know. So when I'm providing pushback,
Speaker 1: it's not because I don't believe you necessarily or try
Speaker 1: trot me to make my case right. So my question
Speaker 1: to you is do you think enough Americans is I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm sorry, enough Americans know what Katie mcfalland
Speaker 1: is saying. But Donald Trump is saying and it's not
Speaker 1: going to bite us in the ass come November.
Speaker 2: That's the one criticism I would make of the President
Speaker 2: is he needs to explain to the American people what's
Speaker 2: our goal here, what are we doing, why are we
Speaker 2: going to achieve it? I've written those Oval Office species
Speaker 2: for previous presidents. You identify the problem. The problem is
Speaker 2: Iran problems. Around's nukes, it's power in the region, it's
Speaker 2: ability to hold the world economic constition. Okay, that's the problem.
Speaker 2: So what's the solution. Okay, Operation Midnight Fury, economic theory,
Speaker 2: with all those operations, and what's the solution. We're going
Speaker 2: to continue to keep the Armada there, We're going to
Speaker 2: continue to use the United States as an alternative energy source.
Speaker 2: And to the American people, I need you to support
Speaker 2: me and have confidence that I'm going to get us
Speaker 2: over the fish line. It's not something that happens overnight.
Speaker 2: I mean, Reagan made those appeals, Abraham Lincoln made those appeals,
Speaker 2: and I wish President Trump would do it. He's good
Speaker 2: at it, not great at it, but he should. He
Speaker 2: needs to do it because the American people are scratching
Speaker 2: their heads. What's our goal? Regime change, no, getting rid
Speaker 2: of the nukes, opening the straight what's our goal and
Speaker 2: what's our sacrifice