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<v Speaker 1>This is the seventy seven w ABC Mini cast. She

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<v Speaker 1>worked for President Trump, for presidents and all Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan on this show every Friday, The Great Kt McFarland

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you would agree those last sixty three

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<v Speaker 1>seconds that's why you gotta love them, right Kat?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that and a whole lot of other reasons. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the policies are just terrific. But does last couple of

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<v Speaker 2>seconds you bet that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, Yeah, that's it. No, that's it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's still a lot of people very angry with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'll be on pox news anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I in fact, I bet I'm not going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say anything really bad. I explained to Grip

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<v Speaker 1>Jenkins where I was coming from using that word to

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<v Speaker 1>describe Mom Donnie. And I still think I'm right. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to apologize. They don't put me on their channel.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I look great, I sound the ratings are great. It's

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<v Speaker 1>their loss, it's not mine. I sound like Trump, that's

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<v Speaker 1>right to God. But I'm being serious. I said a

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<v Speaker 1>word they didn't like, tough. That's who Mum Donnie is,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's President Trump. He says stuff all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't like tough with telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's a great thing about President Trump. And I

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you this having been with him in the

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<v Speaker 2>Oval Office and then walked out and watched him talk

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<v Speaker 2>to the press. He says the same thing in the

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<v Speaker 2>Oval Office that he says to the American people. It's unfurnished.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like he's thinking, oh, what word is going

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<v Speaker 2>to work the best, or I shouldn't say this, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to sound like a true president. He just

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<v Speaker 2>says it as he sees it. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>something really refreshing in politics. I mean, what political leader

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<v Speaker 2>can you think of who actually tells you to your

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<v Speaker 2>face what he's thinking, including if it's something not very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>How many That's why I love this guy. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said earlier, remained critical. This Iran thing is

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<v Speaker 1>still a mess. It's a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>It's greed. You disagree, I disagree. I think the Iran

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<v Speaker 2>thing is going pretty well. You do, yeah, not in

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<v Speaker 2>an obvious way, but in a more subtle way. When

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<v Speaker 2>you think of the sort of what's what's the best

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<v Speaker 2>outcome in Iran that we could have, all right, no

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<v Speaker 2>nukes for sure, open the straight for sure, a regional.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, by the way, not by the way, not one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things were happening. That's over two, he's over two.

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<v Speaker 2>Gad programmers.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's done a very good jump, he's done a

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<v Speaker 1>very good jumb But but but, Katie, but he could

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<v Speaker 1>have stopped with Midnight Hammer. He didn't need the last

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<v Speaker 1>three months Midnight Hammer did so much damage to their

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<v Speaker 1>new program. And all he's done the last couple of months,

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<v Speaker 1>with all these stoppages, is allowing them to find new

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<v Speaker 1>mountain places to build more stuff. They still have the dust.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have an honest conversation. Okay, Midnight Hammer was enough

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<v Speaker 1>the last three months. We're helping them and they still

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<v Speaker 1>have the dust. Okay, and the IRGC is still running

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<v Speaker 1>the show. You can disagree, but I'm I'm a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>percent right. What don't we done the last three months

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<v Speaker 1>to stop their new program? The last three months? What

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<v Speaker 1>have we done?

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<v Speaker 2>We've gotten Armada there the first if they ever pop

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<v Speaker 2>their heads up again and try to rebuild what they have, bombit.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think right, you don't think you don't think

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<v Speaker 1>right now as we speak, these last couple of months,

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<v Speaker 1>with all these ceasefires and stoppages, they haven't been actively

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<v Speaker 1>trying to rebuild all that stuff. Come on, you know

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<v Speaker 1>better of course.

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<v Speaker 2>They are now. I think you don't try it, and

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<v Speaker 2>some I think clearing the rebel is not rebuilding a

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear program. Number one. Number two, what's happened in the

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<v Speaker 2>last several months. You know, six months ago, a year ago,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years ago, fifty years ago, Iran could use the

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<v Speaker 2>straight up Hormuz to jerk the world around over the

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<v Speaker 2>price of oil. They could do it at their will.

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<v Speaker 2>They could do it at their whim, and the world

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<v Speaker 2>had to pay attention. What's happened now in the last

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<v Speaker 2>three or four months. The price of oil isn't moving,

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<v Speaker 2>whether we're having a ceasfire, whether we don't have a ceasefire,

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<v Speaker 2>it's always at about eighty dollars a barrel. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>huge We have taken away their major threat to the world,

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<v Speaker 2>which is their ability to influence the price of oil.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of other things have happened, you know, people,

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<v Speaker 2>but countries are buying from America, They're not buying from

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle East. Because the Middle East is too valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>The Middle East countries are building pipelines, the UAE in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting their oil out in other ways they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Iran's ability to hold the world hostage has greatly diminished,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think within several years it will be gone.

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<v Speaker 2>They won't be able to use the Strait of Marmuse

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<v Speaker 2>because countries will buy their oil from America or other

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<v Speaker 2>safe places, but mostly America, or they'll buy their oil

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<v Speaker 2>from pipelines that is coming away from the Strait of Marmouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's taking away a power Iran has had for

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<v Speaker 2>decades to hold the world hostage. Number two the IRGC.

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<v Speaker 2>They're weakened. Now, are they a rogue? Are they going

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<v Speaker 2>to sabotage every deal? You bet? Will they ever sign

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<v Speaker 2>a deal? Not a chance. But what's happening over time

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<v Speaker 2>is the Iranian economy is getting so hammered that they've

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<v Speaker 2>got to be losing power so that one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eighty thousand people and the IRGC are not going to

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<v Speaker 2>hold ninety million people hostage. The best outcome would be

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<v Speaker 2>a slow rolling coup that the Iranian people themselves impose upon.

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<v Speaker 1>Their stop it. Then you better do what me and

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<v Speaker 1>Levin had been saying for months. Doesn't matter how many

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<v Speaker 1>people up against how many people they got guns. They've

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<v Speaker 1>already mowed down fifty thousand innocent people in the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not going to run there with rocks and go

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<v Speaker 1>after these people. So the idea of the people are

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<v Speaker 1>taking over and I love you to pieces is so ludicrous,

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<v Speaker 1>ludicrous unless the United States is ready to provide the

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<v Speaker 1>civilians with guns.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if the United States, combined with Israel and the

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<v Speaker 2>other Arab countries in the region, takes out a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the IRGC leadership, as President's Rump says, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>to the third tier. Well, but that's my point, to

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<v Speaker 2>the tenth tier.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's my point. Once they have ten tiers, they've

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<v Speaker 1>got twenty tiers, they've got thirty tiers. Okay, they're like roaches,

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<v Speaker 1>they just multiply. So unless you take out ten tiers,

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<v Speaker 1>not two or three, then you are destined to have

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<v Speaker 1>the same issues in seven years. I mean, you talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a couple of years from now. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean a couple of years from now? What if God

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<v Speaker 1>would be the Democrats win in twenty twenty eight, This

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<v Speaker 1>will all be undone we have. There's no guarantee that

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years from now, the straight goal the

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<v Speaker 1>way we wanted to go. You're basing all that on Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gone in two years. No, he's done.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I think the price of oil. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>the world has soured on the Middle East, is especially

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<v Speaker 2>Iran as a source of oil. Okay, and that's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to turn around. That's going to continue to degrade.

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<v Speaker 2>And the other thing, and the main price here is

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<v Speaker 2>what was Iran. Well, Iran, you stabilized the entire region,

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<v Speaker 2>threatened Israel, et cetera, threatened the world, but it also

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<v Speaker 2>was a foothold that China had in the region. And

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<v Speaker 2>that of the main part of this is that bigger

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<v Speaker 2>picture is that the United States is now kind of

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<v Speaker 2>pushing China out of the Middle East. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Abraham Accords will work. I think that they will expand,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think Iran's leadership group will be diminished, diminished, diminuted.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back to what you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>because then you proof of some of these things. They

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<v Speaker 1>sound great, and again, I love you one Trump, we

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<v Speaker 1>are pushing China out of the Middle East, where or how.

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<v Speaker 2>China has used Iran, has has bought Iran's China's money.

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<v Speaker 1>You do realize that China is still providing you on

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<v Speaker 1>with weapons, and you know that, I know you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's providing Iran with intelligence. I think it's buying Iran's oil.

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<v Speaker 2>It's increasingly difficult for China to buy Iran's discounted oil.

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<v Speaker 2>And as a result of that, or one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons that Iran is diminished is that it's losing money,

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<v Speaker 2>is making no money. And because we figured out not

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<v Speaker 2>just with you know, epic fury, but mostly with economic fury,

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<v Speaker 2>is that we found a way to shut down almost

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<v Speaker 2>all of Iran's illegal money coming in and they're illicit

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<v Speaker 2>money now. Illicit money come in the cryptocurrencies, the offshore

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<v Speaker 2>bank accounts that are in the other golfare of states,

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<v Speaker 2>the way iron has been selling oil to China. At

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<v Speaker 2>this discoun we're shutting down the ghost fleets that the

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<v Speaker 2>tankers that oil was moving on. So I think it

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<v Speaker 2>diminishes China because it takes away China's cheap source of oil.

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<v Speaker 2>It diminishes Iran because it destroys Aroun's economy. And now

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they are going to be you know, guys with

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<v Speaker 2>guns who are just going to mow down ninety million people. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>I certainly hope that we are doing with Iran what

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<v Speaker 2>Pritt Reagan did during the Cold War, which is helping

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<v Speaker 2>in many ways helping the opposition forces within Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know, of course that I love President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and I love you, and I have to just provide

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<v Speaker 1>pushback on the radio because you know, people hear Trumps

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<v Speaker 1>saying the same things that you're saying, and they say

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<v Speaker 1>to me, I don't know. So when I'm providing pushback,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not because I don't believe you necessarily or try

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<v Speaker 1>trot me to make my case right. So my question

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<v Speaker 1>to you is do you think enough Americans is I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm sorry, enough Americans know what Katie mcfalland

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<v Speaker 1>is saying. But Donald Trump is saying and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to bite us in the ass come November.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the one criticism I would make of the President

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<v Speaker 2>is he needs to explain to the American people what's

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<v Speaker 2>our goal here, what are we doing, why are we

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<v Speaker 2>going to achieve it? I've written those Oval Office species

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<v Speaker 2>for previous presidents. You identify the problem. The problem is

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<v Speaker 2>Iran problems. Around's nukes, it's power in the region, it's

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<v Speaker 2>ability to hold the world economic constition. Okay, that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the solution. Okay, Operation Midnight Fury, economic theory,

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<v Speaker 2>with all those operations, and what's the solution. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to keep the Armada there, We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>continue to use the United States as an alternative energy source.

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<v Speaker 2>And to the American people, I need you to support

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<v Speaker 2>me and have confidence that I'm going to get us

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<v Speaker 2>over the fish line. It's not something that happens overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Reagan made those appeals, Abraham Lincoln made those appeals,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wish President Trump would do it. He's good

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<v Speaker 2>at it, not great at it, but he should. He

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<v Speaker 2>needs to do it because the American people are scratching

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<v Speaker 2>their heads. What's our goal? Regime change, no, getting rid

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<v Speaker 2>of the nukes, opening the straight what's our goal and

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<v Speaker 2>what's our sacrifice