Speaker 1: Welcome back to EVE Sports Radio. Yes it is.
Speaker 2: We're live.
Speaker 1: It is May the twenty eighth, twenty twenty five, and
Speaker 1: I'm in Greenville, South Carolina, Quaine City. That's all I
Speaker 1: can say. The weather's quite different. Usually it's seventy five
Speaker 1: to eighty five and short sleeves and short pants weather.
Speaker 1: And I landed yesterday Miss Gwenn Blackbirdy and I and
Speaker 1: it was fifty two degrees and I think they say
Speaker 1: right now it's forty nine outside and raining, So quite
Speaker 1: different scenery than I'm used to when I come here
Speaker 1: for our conference meeting. Everyone knows that the SEC is
Speaker 1: having its conference meetings going on right now, which we'll
Speaker 1: get into. But I'm also experiencing our conference meeting the NCCAA,
Speaker 1: and I'll be here until Friday. So welcome back to
Speaker 1: E Sports Radio. Yes it is Wednesday. We all know
Speaker 1: that is hump Day. I hope everyone had a tremendous
Speaker 1: Memorial Day holiday Friday. We listened to a little clip.
Speaker 1: A lot of people have given a lot from a
Speaker 1: Memorial Day. It's one of the most important holidays in
Speaker 1: my opinion. So again, I hope you all had a
Speaker 1: great time. Now let me introduce my co host, one
Speaker 1: and only, Anthony Eves andthy Welcome to the show. How
Speaker 1: are you.
Speaker 3: I'm doing fantastic. How are you doing down there in Greenville,
Speaker 3: South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna tell you what. We'll get to that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that. But let me just finish this.
Speaker 1: This is EVE Sports Radio phone numbers five zero, two, five, seven,
Speaker 1: seventy nine hundred. It's Sports Talk seven ninety. Of course
Speaker 1: that's KRD. We've got shedding behind the glass and we're
Speaker 1: ready to rock and roll. So Anthony, let's just everyone knows.
Speaker 1: I have to tell them about my travel escapades. Everyone
Speaker 1: is traveled, most people have traveled, and most people have flown.
Speaker 1: So Anthony, here we go. I leave yesterday morning, no problem.
Speaker 1: Get to the airport. Look at my flight. It's delayed. Okay,
Speaker 1: no problem. I've got a to hour window in Atlanta
Speaker 1: to get to my connecting flight, so I'm not too concerned.
Speaker 1: It's the late fifteen minutes, no problems. The late thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: no problem. It's the late forty five minutes, and we're
Speaker 1: starting to have a problem. It's the late fifty minutes.
Speaker 1: We're going to have a problem. By the time we
Speaker 1: get on the plane at Louisvie and take off. Of course,
Speaker 1: Miss Gwyn Blackburn and I we miss our connection, that's all, Anthony.
Speaker 1: We miss our connection in Atlanta, so we have to
Speaker 1: go to one of the help desk. Of course, boom boom,
Speaker 1: no long lines. Quickly I went to the delta room
Speaker 1: and was going. We went with me and I ate
Speaker 1: good set around. It was fine, Anthony. We get on
Speaker 1: our flight from Atlanta to Greenville, South Carolina. Truly, you
Speaker 1: all at thirty five to forty minute flight backs. We
Speaker 1: sat on the tarmac longer than the flight. It's raining,
Speaker 1: like you know what, Anthony, I mean. This weather is awful.
Speaker 1: I mean awful. So we taxi out and we're the
Speaker 1: fourth plane from taking off. The pilot comes on and says,
Speaker 1: we're gonna hold right here because the weather's so bad
Speaker 1: they've shut down the airport. No problem by me. I
Speaker 1: have no problem with staying on the ground, guys, nothing whatsoever.
Speaker 1: So of course I start watching movies on the plane
Speaker 1: and just different things. We sit there and the pilot
Speaker 1: comes back on. It'll be another fifteen minutes. The pilot
Speaker 1: comes back on, it'll be another fifteen minutes. And this
Speaker 1: is all airlines, is just I Delta guys. They shut
Speaker 1: down Atlanta's airport. That's all airlines. So next thing you know,
Speaker 1: I pass out, fall asleep like I do, Anthony. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I feel this flying. I'm like, okay, good,
Speaker 1: next thing I know, and I sleep through everything, Anthony.
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, I thought the plane was gonna turn
Speaker 1: upside down, Anthony. I've flown for sixty six I think
Speaker 1: my first flight was at thirteen West until flew me
Speaker 1: to Baltimore, Maryland to his basketball camp. I was a counselor,
Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen years old. And if the nc of
Speaker 1: Kentucky High School Sports Association would have known it, Anthony,
Speaker 1: I'd have been ineligible because Western self paid me. That's
Speaker 1: the truth. But too late now, any too late now, brother,
Speaker 1: But Wes paid me. I went up and I was
Speaker 1: a counselor and I played against the kids from Maryland.
Speaker 1: I had a ball. But that was my first flight.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. I put a suit on, Anthony, and
Speaker 1: a time my dad would not let me try. I
Speaker 1: had a suit and tie on. So I've been doing
Speaker 1: this a long time. Fifty two or three or four years.
Speaker 1: I've been flying regularly, I mean all the time, and
Speaker 1: it was the worst thirty minutes I've ever endured in
Speaker 1: my life. I didn't think we're gonna make it. I said,
Speaker 1: it's going to end going to the NCCAA in Greenville,
Speaker 1: South Carolina. For me, I said, no way. And I
Speaker 1: mean it was that bad, duo, Anthony. I thought the
Speaker 1: plane was going to turn upside down. We were bouncing
Speaker 1: and knocking you to thought people were throwing I mean
Speaker 1: haymakers straight on the jaw. I'd never felt any turbulence
Speaker 1: like yesterday, Anthony. That plane just kept rising rising the
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, once we got out of it,
Speaker 1: clear smooth, three or four five minutes later, I think
Speaker 1: we're just sending to come in to Greenville, South Carolina.
Speaker 1: And we landed. I'm telling you, I was almost Anthony
Speaker 1: like the Gladiator movie. I was getting ready to get
Speaker 1: down and just kiss the ground when we walked off.
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, Anthony. I wanted to bend over and
Speaker 1: kiss the carbon in the airport. Thank you Lord. That's
Speaker 1: no joke, guys. It was just that bad. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm here shaken, not stirred like James Bond, just shaking
Speaker 1: but not stirred. So that was my trip yesterday at Greenville,
Speaker 1: South Carolina. I'm hoping that the trip back will not
Speaker 1: be as bad. But and I know you've had You've
Speaker 1: traveled quite a bit. You played at Chicago State and
Speaker 1: you all went to the West coast for probably half
Speaker 1: of your games in your conference. So all this crying
Speaker 1: that we heard from me Cronan A schools had been
Speaker 1: doing it for forever. But you know, Cronan was crying,
Speaker 1: now we have to go east with EU c l
Speaker 1: A too often. So he dropped out of one of
Speaker 1: the games. Kentucky ended up picking up Saint John's and
Speaker 1: coach Matino. But anyway, tell me about your experience flying.
Speaker 1: Tell me about a bad experience, Anthony ed any.
Speaker 3: Honestly, throughout college, I didn't. I didn't have any bad
Speaker 3: flight experiences. Sometimes it'd be long, there'd be longer try
Speaker 3: longer flights, the longer days in the airport, catching buses.
Speaker 3: When you land, shoot arounds, the days would be long.
Speaker 3: You know, they could be from anywhere from four thirty
Speaker 3: five o'clock in the morning until ten o'clock at night
Speaker 3: and it's just kind of how sometimes. But no, no,
Speaker 3: turbles was never really bad. We never I don't think
Speaker 3: we have really had any delayed flights. We never missed flights,
Speaker 3: never got canceled. Oh you're so you never had We
Speaker 3: never had a cancel flight.
Speaker 1: Well, all I'm gonna tell you one thing is James
Speaker 1: Bond said, shake, get not stirred. I was both yesterday
Speaker 1: and I came off. I'm telling you, I wanted to
Speaker 1: grab ground and gravel like the Gladiator. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: I was like, boy, I'm so glad I'm walking. Oh
Speaker 1: it was bad. So anyway, we've got a lot to
Speaker 1: get to you at seven thirteen, we've got a lot
Speaker 1: is transpired the NBA. Of course we're gonna dig into
Speaker 1: that first. Antney. I even have to slap myself because
Speaker 1: I'm critical of Halliburton because he can't always go get forty.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not shake Gildis Alexander. He just can't.
Speaker 1: You know, He's not the Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant that
Speaker 1: I'm used to putting up on a pedestal. I've always
Speaker 1: knocked him, but dang it, the boys really good, Anthony.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop. Halliburton is really good. I watched him
Speaker 1: last night. He is really good. He's just more of
Speaker 1: a point guard, and for some reason, as a point
Speaker 1: guard in the NBA, I should have been given him
Speaker 1: more credit, Anthony, because he is a true he is
Speaker 1: a point guard. He can score it, but that's not
Speaker 1: his attribute. He's not a super athlete. He's not dunking
Speaker 1: on you, Anthony. He just wants to run teams and
Speaker 1: he did an excellent job last night. What's your opinion
Speaker 1: of Tyre's Halliburton. What do you think as a triple
Speaker 1: double last night?
Speaker 3: His game is unorthodox. I'll put it like that. It's
Speaker 3: not the normal what you see most superstar in All
Speaker 3: Star players play, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's
Speaker 3: just some people don't like it because he's not technically
Speaker 3: a one on one style player exactly. He's better in
Speaker 3: an efficient offense. He's good with the pacers and how
Speaker 3: their play style is because they're even across the board.
Speaker 3: That's one of the reasons why he didn't play on
Speaker 3: the Olympic team in the USA, because he's not a
Speaker 3: one on one player. You can't put him out there
Speaker 3: and just make a move on a bunch of different
Speaker 3: European teams and blow by him and dunk on him.
Speaker 3: Every other player to shoot threes in your face because
Speaker 3: he just doesn't do that. He doesn't that just going
Speaker 3: out there and making his own move. He doesn't do
Speaker 3: it much on the Pacers. He has a lot more
Speaker 3: confidence and flexibility under Greg Carlisle. So who'll go out
Speaker 3: there and shoots step back three? He's fading away after
Speaker 3: he's hit a couple of league gets flowing. He gets
Speaker 3: the offense to go on the team's hot. They have
Speaker 3: a crowd fan based that's energetic and kind of booster
Speaker 3: the morale. Then you'll see Tyres Halliburton start to explode
Speaker 3: more as a player. But he is efficient. The one
Speaker 3: thing I will say is even other players have said
Speaker 3: he's a fun all start to play with because he's
Speaker 3: not selfish and he wants others to score the ball
Speaker 3: as well. You can see it throughout.
Speaker 1: He said that he's doing a straight jab at Leonard.
Speaker 1: When he was talking about playing with Indiana. We all
Speaker 1: know Pascal one one with Toronto. He says, playing with
Speaker 1: Indiana is like a breath of fresh air. Anthony, he says,
Speaker 1: without a doubt. We're all just play and he had
Speaker 1: been playing with Leonard, which we all know he's a
Speaker 1: douggie downer without a doubt. But Anthony, he just playoffs.
Speaker 1: Fourteen games, thirty five minutes a game, nineteen points a game.
Speaker 1: Anthony got me. He is. He is efficient. He's not
Speaker 1: going to score tons of points. Again. He's a thirty
Speaker 1: three percent, almost thirty four percent three point shooter. He
Speaker 1: has a forty seven percent two point shooter, Anthony, which
Speaker 1: is a very good statistic for today's era. He's an
Speaker 1: eighty percent free throat shooter. Anthony. He is just a
Speaker 1: true point guard. And everyone always we just want Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan and Kobe Bryant. We do, I do, But after
Speaker 1: last night, I loved Indiana's up tempo Anthony. The Utah
Speaker 1: Jazz in my era there played the exact same way.
Speaker 1: We averaged one hundred and twenty points a game. We
Speaker 1: wanted to be up and down once the team scored it.
Speaker 1: We wanted the ball in bounds and up the floor
Speaker 1: in four seconds looking to score it, and when they
Speaker 1: missed it, we wanted to even be quicker than that.
Speaker 1: Frank Layton wanted up tempo and you're getting a chance
Speaker 1: to see that Indiana was running that floor yesterday, and
Speaker 1: I mean it was a fun game tour, just different
Speaker 1: than walk it up and watch somebody play one on one.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the bottom line. Now. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying the series is over, Anthony. I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: Knicks are dead. They're on a respirator, doesn't look good,
Speaker 1: but I'm not saying they're dead. I think that the
Speaker 1: Knicks will win the next game, Game five, make it
Speaker 1: three to two, and then it puts the pressure on
Speaker 1: the Pacers to win game six. So this is still
Speaker 1: going to be a very good series. It really is.
Speaker 1: And Anthony a person that we had given a hard
Speaker 1: time to you and I not on the radio, but
Speaker 1: car Anthony Towns, he even taking the ball to the
Speaker 1: basket now and he's playing really well. I mean he
Speaker 1: took over not last night's game of the game before
Speaker 1: Car Anthony Towns took it over. So there's just a
Speaker 1: lot of good sports going on right now, a lot
Speaker 1: of good players emerging. I think that people don't want
Speaker 1: to give credit to but a last night's game, boy,
Speaker 1: it just reminded me of the jazz the Pacers got
Speaker 1: up and down. Now for old old sports fans in
Speaker 1: the city of Louisville, everyone remembers fifty years ago Kentucky
Speaker 1: Colonels defeated the Indiana Pacers in the ABA Championship. And
Speaker 1: now I'm watching I watched Rick Smith's Pacers, Isaiah Thomas coaching,
Speaker 1: and I coached against the Larry Bird Pacers. I've watched
Speaker 1: them all now, the Rick Carlile Pacers, the Larry Brown
Speaker 1: Pacers that have been in the NBA reaching Eastern Conference Finals,
Speaker 1: the Reggie Miller choke artist with Spike Lee, and all
Speaker 1: I can say, and you weren't even born, but here
Speaker 1: I am in the city of Louisville. I'd love to
Speaker 1: have an NBA team, but we don't. We do not.
Speaker 1: And the Pacers, I want people to understand. Fifty years
Speaker 1: ago they were going around fundraising, I mean, asking for
Speaker 1: people for dollars for Nichols to get into the NBA.
Speaker 1: But they had the foresight to understand and did not.
Speaker 1: My city, Louisville. I just want everyone to know what
Speaker 1: we're watching on TV with the Pacers. We should be
Speaker 1: watching on television in the city of Louisville, but we're not.
Speaker 1: Our leadership has been so bad for so long it's
Speaker 1: just not worthy of speaking about. And guys, the sports
Speaker 1: entertainment business is a taxable business that helps your community.
Speaker 1: Everyone gets so hung up, Anthony, and what the athletes make,
Speaker 1: who cares you tax them good? But the coaches make,
Speaker 1: who care taxable dollars? Anthony, arenas oh businesses that thrive
Speaker 1: off of those businesses, Anthony. Our leadership has been so
Speaker 1: bad and people hate for me to go back. And
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, Anthony about community leaders Today they
Speaker 1: called me up and said, Jerry, get over it. Water
Speaker 1: under the bridge. It is. But I still can't believe
Speaker 1: that I watched the Indianapolis five hundred and the very
Speaker 1: same day an NBA playoff game. So I want people
Speaker 1: to think before we go to break, when you'd love
Speaker 1: to add the Kentucky derby at five point thirty six
Speaker 1: and then a Kentucky Colonel's game at eight o'clock on
Speaker 1: national TV in the playoffs. It should have happened. It
Speaker 1: could have happened twice, and our community turned its nose
Speaker 1: to it twice billions of dollars, not millions, billions of
Speaker 1: taxable dollars. So every time I watch the Pacers. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you every time I watched them Indie, I watched
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis five hundred and all they said is and
Speaker 1: tonight the Pacers are going to be playing a playoff
Speaker 1: game in the eat CERN Conference semifinals. It just made
Speaker 1: me go. Made the hair on my head, which I
Speaker 1: don't have any stand up. So when we get back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk a little bit about OKAC seven twenty
Speaker 1: one Anthony. Then we're gonna get into this college football
Speaker 1: spectrum because Anthony, times are changing quickly and the SEC
Speaker 1: and the Big Ten are trying to change the page
Speaker 1: on all these other colleges. They better hurry up and
Speaker 1: keep up. It's E Sports Radio, which means we need
Speaker 1: good leadership in the ACC with our athletic directors and
Speaker 1: our presidents E Sports Radio. We'll talk to you in
Speaker 1: a minute. Welcome back to E Sports Radio. Seven twenty five.
Speaker 1: I did kiss the ground. Yes, people were saying, yes,
Speaker 1: I did. I should have kissed it twice. That playing
Speaker 1: flight was frightening. That's all there is to it. You
Speaker 1: can say what you want when you have no control,
Speaker 1: and you know everyone says have a safe trip. I'm like,
Speaker 1: tell the pilots have a safe trip. I've got nothing
Speaker 1: to do with it. I'm doing this sleepy pile. Is
Speaker 1: that excellent job brought us in? Thank you Lord. Anyway,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the sports radio from numbers five, zero, two, five, seven,
Speaker 1: seventy nine hundred. I know everyone's had well. Anthony has
Speaker 1: flown quite a bit. You're fortunate at Anthony. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've had some scary ones. I really have. So let's
Speaker 1: get to us. Anthony. We haven't spoke. Maybe you and
Speaker 1: George did, but I haven't spoke much about shake Yielding's
Speaker 1: Alexander MVP. Without a doubt, Anthony has been improving every
Speaker 1: season in the NBA. George Williams did hit this one
Speaker 1: on the head. He did. He hit the nail on
Speaker 1: the head. He did. He said that kid's gonna be
Speaker 1: really good. When he played in the McDonald's game, your
Speaker 1: mother was there, Frank, you weren't there. You were still
Speaker 1: at Chicago State. But your brother and I and your
Speaker 1: mom were there. We watched him play. I said, he
Speaker 1: is good. It was one of the lower rated Kentucky
Speaker 1: players coming in at the time, but we all know
Speaker 1: that Kentucky was always getting you know, three of the
Speaker 1: top ten players in the country, but ends up taking
Speaker 1: a certain job after about five or six games, Anthony,
Speaker 1: and that was It's been history since then. I love him.
Speaker 1: He's the best mid range player I've seen in a
Speaker 1: long long time. His strength is not his three point shot.
Speaker 1: He doesn't shoot a ton of him, Anthony. I wasn't
Speaker 1: a three point shooter. I taught you and Frankie to shoot.
Speaker 1: But he still does more than adequate job at that.
Speaker 1: But that boy is efficient. So in the playoffs when
Speaker 1: it matters MVP, he's playing thirty six minutes a game
Speaker 1: after twenty nine point five points a game, Anthony shooting
Speaker 1: forty seven percent from the field. He's struggling from the
Speaker 1: three point line in the playoffs at twenty eight point nine,
Speaker 1: but he's shooting forty seven where he lives, and he's
Speaker 1: shooting eighty five point three percent at the free throw line.
Speaker 1: Other piece I love about him, Manthony. He will defend
Speaker 1: okse guard They really do? They guard you? I mean Edwards.
Speaker 1: People are giving him a hard time, even myself, Anthony, Okay,
Speaker 1: see guards you. That's all there is to it. They
Speaker 1: have a college concept. They abide by it. They make
Speaker 1: you shoot jump shots, they can test you. They rebound
Speaker 1: the ball and they run it down your throat. But
Speaker 1: Shake Gildicks, I mean got Lee MVP and and I
Speaker 1: see him terrorizing the league for about five years. I
Speaker 1: really do. I see him getting nothing but better as
Speaker 1: he's continuing to mature with the game. And I all
Speaker 1: players kind of you've seen them. They'll ask for a
Speaker 1: call here or there. But his gestures, his mannerisms with
Speaker 1: Shake gildis Alexander, how he carries himself even with his
Speaker 1: frustrations and guys, I want everybody to know it's an
Speaker 1: emotional game. And yes there were times when I played,
Speaker 1: I was upset in playoff games, Anthony, to where I
Speaker 1: was upset, I was, you know, I wasn't composed. Everybody,
Speaker 1: you should be composed. You're the point guard. I don't
Speaker 1: hear on that until you really compete at a real game.
Speaker 1: There's moments that you're not. But he still does a
Speaker 1: great job of handling his emotions. I just love the
Speaker 1: way he plays, Anthony. I think Anthony, if OKC can
Speaker 1: add just the right player in this draft, and we
Speaker 1: know they'll be between twenty and thirty. But there are
Speaker 1: a lot of sleepers out there, they can recruit, find
Speaker 1: the right player to help. I would say, rebound the ball,
Speaker 1: help with defensive presence. I love Chad what he's doing,
Speaker 1: Hobrid what he's doing, but that body of his I'm
Speaker 1: always nervous that he could get injured at any moment. Anthony,
Speaker 1: They've got a great group of guys to where they
Speaker 1: can make a run at this thing. I've always picked
Speaker 1: Oka See. I'm staying oka See. What do you think?
Speaker 1: What do you think does Oka See win this thing?
Speaker 1: Do they finish it tonight? First thing? Do they finish
Speaker 1: it at home?
Speaker 3: We'll finish it at home. The only controversy I say
Speaker 3: to the okac Thunder is that majority of their team
Speaker 3: is on rookie or very low contracts. And when I
Speaker 3: say that is him, obviously you know Sga will resign,
Speaker 3: the will probably want to resign Jaylen Williams. But those
Speaker 3: other key role players that everybody's like, oh, okay see,
Speaker 3: it will be the best team for the next five years,
Speaker 3: they won't because they have to pay them. Okay everybody, okay,
Speaker 3: okay See. Is not a big market team. We already
Speaker 3: know that they don't play a lot of the players
Speaker 3: even the players that they had in recent history, like
Speaker 3: all we can even go back to the James hard
Speaker 3: and Kem Durant, Russell Westbrook. They were all younger in
Speaker 3: their careers. They weren't on super Max contracts. Chet Holmgrom
Speaker 3: is gonna be a twenty five million dollar guy, Jaylen
Speaker 3: Willams gonna be a thirty million dollar guy. Sga is
Speaker 3: gonna be forty million.
Speaker 2: Even if role.
Speaker 3: Players like Crusoe, Case Wallace, Isaiah Joe, Isaiah Hartenstein. You
Speaker 3: have to pay all of them, and even the new
Speaker 3: guys coming in, they are gonna be on the rookie contract.
Speaker 3: You can keep them awhile, that's why the draft is
Speaker 3: so important for them. But you can't say from four
Speaker 3: years from now, every guy on that team, in the
Speaker 3: way that the NBA market works so far, in their
Speaker 3: starting lineup, everybody on that team is worth twenty million
Speaker 3: dollars at least, okay, even at least at least.
Speaker 1: And Alexander Shay's gonna make sixty million, You're one hundred
Speaker 1: percent he's gonna make sixty million. You're right. They can't
Speaker 1: pay him sixty which they're going to Chad Hogren. They'll
Speaker 1: pay fifty five after that, Anthony, You're right, they're gonna
Speaker 1: lose Williams or they're gonna lose Wiggins, I mean Cason
Speaker 1: Wallace as he continues, and that boy's improving. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're right. At There's it's really difficult for that level
Speaker 1: market to pay with there because and they've done They've
Speaker 1: done a great job of drafting. So they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to continue because you're right, they're gonna get cherry picked.
Speaker 1: People are going to pull from their roster. I was
Speaker 1: saying that they could be great. They're gonna keep Shae
Speaker 1: for five years, but to keep that nucleus around him,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a little bit more difficult, Anthony, unless
Speaker 1: unless the players want to play with each other and
Speaker 1: see that they've got a chance to win multiple championships,
Speaker 1: is there? Only that's the only saving Grace Fro.
Speaker 3: That ain't happening. Only only player has done in the
Speaker 3: last twenty years is taking a pay cut of Jalen Brothers.
Speaker 3: And you see how that's working out for him.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, he's a great player. But you're right,
Speaker 1: he did give to the Knicks. I agree, I mean,
Speaker 1: and they're in it. The Knicks losing.
Speaker 3: The five games Indiana Pacers, if you were being seas.
Speaker 1: Best, I can't. It's not my fault at.
Speaker 3: The beginning, at the beginning of the year, even midway.
Speaker 1: Through the season, calves folded.
Speaker 3: And in fact, I can keep pushing it back, even
Speaker 3: for even when the playoffs started, you would have never
Speaker 3: been like I would not have would be a three
Speaker 3: one on the Knicks.
Speaker 1: Anthony, I said, Okay, see, Cleveland Cavaliers, the Calves folded
Speaker 1: on me. Had a few injuries, but they still folded.
Speaker 1: I don't in playoff time, Anthony, you have to win.
Speaker 1: I say that for football, I say that for basketball.
Speaker 1: I say that in college. They folded. So I picked Okay, see,
Speaker 1: I just didn't think Cleveland. I never picked Boston. I
Speaker 1: didn't expect Boston to get there. Even before the injury.
Speaker 1: I did not pick Boston. I picked Cleveland. So, yes,
Speaker 1: you're right, we could have had a Boston Celtics Cleveland Cavaliers.
Speaker 1: That's what people were expecting to see. But it's not
Speaker 1: what happened. At that's all. It's just not what has happened.
Speaker 1: But I still I'm going to start to give Halliburton
Speaker 1: more credit. Anthony I'm gonna stop knocking that boy. The
Speaker 1: Pacers played well, they're improving, Anthony, They've got a young nucleus.
Speaker 1: I like their style of play. I do.
Speaker 3: I don't like, but are you gonna be Are you
Speaker 3: gonna be saying this if they go and play okay,
Speaker 3: see and they losing four or five games five, they're
Speaker 3: gonna lose him. Are you gonna be giving Halibert in
Speaker 3: the same credit? Now, let me tell you we're not
Speaker 3: giving when I give you know, we're not giving Anthony
Speaker 3: Edwards any credit anywhere. We're saying that, Okay, he has
Speaker 3: good I'll I.
Speaker 1: Want him to do more, but I'm not killing that man.
Speaker 1: He's been to Western Conference in my finals twice. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not killing that now. Anthony had a friend of
Speaker 1: mine who said, ant man never wins it, and I said,
Speaker 1: listen to me, let's just let him have a few.
Speaker 1: They've been in the finals the last two years. I'm
Speaker 1: giving him credit for that. And I didn't know. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, I got a really close friend of mine
Speaker 1: that said the exact same thing you said. I know
Speaker 1: he's not gonna beat Okay, see, they're not. But he
Speaker 1: has put Minnesota in the Western Conference finals twice, and
Speaker 1: you know everybody, everybody can't win it. An that's just
Speaker 1: that means out of all my years playing Anthony, I
Speaker 1: want you to think about this now, I won a high
Speaker 1: school championship one time in four years I played four.
Speaker 1: I won a college championship one time in four years.
Speaker 1: I went to two final fours. Now, maybe if I
Speaker 1: played in today's era, i'd played eight years, Ridney McCrae
Speaker 1: might have got three championships. I might have got two.
Speaker 1: But Anthony, I was still successful. I didn't win it,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't let people tell me I wasn't successful
Speaker 1: when I wasn't good. I was a competitor. Only one
Speaker 1: person wins it. So that means out all the time
Speaker 1: I played Anthony NBA, we won thirty games my first year.
Speaker 1: My second year at Utah, we went to the semi
Speaker 1: finals of the Western Conference, and I call that a success. Andy,
Speaker 1: we were the worst team in the league when I
Speaker 1: went our second year, we lost at Phoenix Kyle Macy,
Speaker 1: Walter Davis, Rick Roby and the semi finals. That's when
Speaker 1: I tore my knee up. So and that's the only
Speaker 1: problem that when you look at it that way. That
Speaker 1: means all my other years I wasn't successful, even though
Speaker 1: I won two. I got a high school chip, I
Speaker 1: got a college chip, I didn't get an NBA chip.
Speaker 1: And I mean I was just glad I made it.
Speaker 1: But I mean simply true fact. So I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: I want it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I told you I wanted him to shoot it. I said,
Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, go lose the game. Anthony, I told you
Speaker 1: the same thing in the playoffs. You remember you told
Speaker 1: everybody I met you the locker room. I said, I
Speaker 1: don't care what happened, shoot the ball. Put it on
Speaker 1: you to win or lose it. That means you're gonna win.
Speaker 1: And you went out and made every shot in the
Speaker 1: second half, didn't you? Do you remember? Tell the truth?
Speaker 1: Tell the truth.
Speaker 3: You're getting a little from what I was talking about,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: But what I'm telling you is that around the.
Speaker 3: World now, I just said credit.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's in the finals. I gotta give him credit. Rudy,
Speaker 1: he's in the finals.
Speaker 3: That's not answering my question necessarily. Okay, I'm saying you're
Speaker 3: giving him credit now because he made it to the finals.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about what he's saying to do in the finals.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, if he goes to the finals and we're
Speaker 3: seeing these good performances now against the New York Knicks,
Speaker 3: which he is doing. But if he goes there in
Speaker 3: the finals and he goes places against Oka See, which
Speaker 3: is supposed to be the defensive team. They shut down
Speaker 3: a lot players. They have Anthony Edwards, Julius rand Out
Speaker 3: are scoring six twelve points a night. If you go
Speaker 3: out there and Halliburn's scoring twelve points, five sists, four
Speaker 3: rebounds and found out in the fourth quarter, are you
Speaker 3: gonna say, Halibert, Haliburton is this great point guard. I
Speaker 3: should have gave him more credit.
Speaker 1: I'm like, here's what I'm gonna say. Here's what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're playing against win, it matters emotion,
Speaker 3: you don't show up.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm not really say this. When I got
Speaker 1: after Anthony Edwards, he didn't shoot it enough, and I
Speaker 1: said that when you are the man, and he is
Speaker 1: the man, Anthony Edwards, Halliburton is also got me, but
Speaker 1: they're more of a team basis. But Anthony Edwards is
Speaker 1: the man tonight. If he goes five for thirteen, I'm
Speaker 1: going to say tomorrow, he didn't put it on his
Speaker 1: shoulders to go get it. He is the scoring mechanism
Speaker 1: on that team. He and Randall got me. Anthony Halliburton
Speaker 1: plays differently, and I say, and he does, and you
Speaker 1: know that, and I didn't like it. I've always knocked Caliburton,
Speaker 1: but I'm giving him credit for leading his team because
Speaker 1: he's done that. But all I'm saying is for tonight's game,
Speaker 1: all I want to see Antony Edwards is try to
Speaker 1: put it on your shoulders. I want to see you
Speaker 1: thirteen for twenty nine forty seven percent. That's fine, but
Speaker 1: I want to see twenty nine shots. That's your job.
Speaker 1: That's what he's there to do, Anthony. He's not there
Speaker 1: to facilitate. He's there to score. So I want to
Speaker 1: see him try. If he doesn't go in, Anthony, making
Speaker 1: is not success, just trying. So, yes, Halliburton, I want
Speaker 1: to see some numbers, but not at the level of
Speaker 1: scoring as I do with Anthony Edwards. That's all. But
Speaker 1: you do Alexample.
Speaker 3: Do you know the Pacers record this season when Halliburton
Speaker 3: scores twenty or more points.
Speaker 1: I do not know. I do not They're.
Speaker 3: Thirty one and four. Okay, So why would you not
Speaker 3: want to go out here and try to score? Not
Speaker 3: say you got to shoot twenty seven times a game,
Speaker 3: but the statistics. We always say if the numbers don't lie.
Speaker 3: So when he goes out there and he puts the
Speaker 3: ball in the they win percent of the games. So
Speaker 3: you can't be like he's a team player and he
Speaker 3: goes up there is shoes eight shots, has twelve points
Speaker 3: and they lose by twenty in the first game. O
Speaker 3: case wa, buddy, I need you to go out there
Speaker 3: for twenty plus because when you do, we win games.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a hard one to knock. All I
Speaker 1: know is Nie Smith, Nate Smith, Anthony, your guy hit
Speaker 1: eight threes. They went on the road.
Speaker 3: My guy, he's.
Speaker 1: No Anthony, Hold up, don't knock him. He guards the
Speaker 1: mess out of Brunson. Oh that well, he bangs body
Speaker 1: with Bruns. Brunson is tired of running into that kid.
Speaker 1: And Anthony he's good. So no, you should take him.
Speaker 1: He's good and he we're at seven thirty nine. We've
Speaker 1: got to get the break. It's the sports radio. When
Speaker 1: we come back, we're going to listen to Kirby. Smart Guys,
Speaker 1: my opinion the last five or six years, the best
Speaker 1: coach in college football. He's got to talk about the
Speaker 1: state of the game. Eaves Sports Radio will talk to
Speaker 1: you in a minute. Welcome back to Eve Sports Radio,
Speaker 1: seven forty six. I think it's the twenty eighth. It
Speaker 1: is the twenty eighth. It's Wednesday. My mind's gone, been
Speaker 1: gone for a long time. Welcome back to the sports radio.
Speaker 1: Got my son Anthony. Guys, we're gonna listen to. I
Speaker 1: think Kirby smart truly. It's not a heart of it's
Speaker 1: not hard, it's not gonna be a fight. He's one
Speaker 1: of the best coaches top two or three in the
Speaker 1: country or college football. And he's talking about the issues.
Speaker 1: And I want to read this to you before I
Speaker 1: throw it to shednon. The major theme lingering over the
Speaker 1: SEC annual meetings this week is an air of uncertainty
Speaker 1: clouding the future of the sport, the fate of the
Speaker 1: house versus the NCAA case, the college football playoff format,
Speaker 1: and the league's football schedule in flux. Kirby thinks the
Speaker 1: largest issue right now is the transfer portal, and he
Speaker 1: only wants one of them. So let's listen to Kirby
Speaker 1: smart for about a minute and thirty. Then Anthony and I.
Speaker 4: Will discuss it understanding when people talk about old school
Speaker 4: and there are a lot of your fans and fans
Speaker 4: across college football who just are struggling with this new model.
Speaker 4: I realize you're struggling with it too as a as
Speaker 4: a traditional coach, But how is it different dealing with
Speaker 4: young players who are making what you just alluded to.
Speaker 2: That's not the problem. Pause, it's not the it's not
Speaker 2: the fact they're making money. It's not that it's not
Speaker 2: an issue. The issue is.
Speaker 5: The inability to pinpoint what the rules are and what
Speaker 5: we can do.
Speaker 2: You know, like like nobody's upset.
Speaker 5: About what We're all very thankful players SEC players or
Speaker 5: should be that they're the most marketable players, they get
Speaker 5: the most coverage, they get seen on TV. I am
Speaker 5: so comfortable with that. We're past that point. We just
Speaker 5: want to know the parameters with which we're playing by
Speaker 5: and be able to sustain a budget and have other
Speaker 5: sports survive. I think every coach would take that at
Speaker 5: this point. There's no old school young school.
Speaker 2: It's none of that.
Speaker 5: We're comfortable paying the players, so are they are?
Speaker 4: They different any different to coach because not because maybe
Speaker 4: the money, but the fact that you can lose them
Speaker 4: at the drop of a hat.
Speaker 2: Well, if they're wired the wrong way.
Speaker 5: They're different to coach because if they're leaving because you're
Speaker 5: coaching them, then.
Speaker 2: You really didn't want them in the first place.
Speaker 5: Okay, you know, so like for me, we're not going
Speaker 5: to change how we coach, how we develop, and how
Speaker 5: we grow things. And most kids and parents appreciate that now.
Speaker 5: Parents always tell me, I really want my son to
Speaker 5: come play there because I know you're still going to
Speaker 5: coach them the right way. You're gonna push them, You're
Speaker 5: going to demand excellence. You're not going to run from
Speaker 5: the fact that they could leave. That is inevitable. They
Speaker 5: could leave, but that doesn't make them more successful because
Speaker 5: they leave.
Speaker 4: We're talking to coach Kirby smart and certainly with your
Speaker 4: background over in this state, what you're dealing with now
Speaker 4: is similar in many ways because the expectations for Georgia
Speaker 4: are almost insufferable. I had a guy called me yesterday.
Speaker 4: Not that I'm saying that we have the most sensible
Speaker 4: sample of callers.
Speaker 2: But he has to say it. A bunch of callers,
Speaker 2: Well they know it.
Speaker 4: He said something like, do you feel like Georgia has swipt?
Speaker 4: And I said, are you aware that they won the
Speaker 4: SEC championship last year?
Speaker 2: And I think that's where fans are though right now, Paul,
Speaker 2: I think you forgot that.
Speaker 4: I did forget that because because I now look at
Speaker 4: your program as if you don't win the national championship,
Speaker 4: it feels disappointing. Well, that's a good thing that you
Speaker 4: do that, because I actually good thing, Thank you, Shennon,
Speaker 4: And that is a good thing.
Speaker 1: That's where Kirby is taking this program, just like Nick
Speaker 1: Saban had taken Alabama. If they don't win at Anthony,
Speaker 1: people seem to think that, ooh, they're unworthy. That's like
Speaker 1: the year they weren't able to repeat. I still can't
Speaker 1: believe college football did that to George. I just can't.
Speaker 1: When they lost in the championship game of the SEC
Speaker 1: to Alabama and they didn't put them in it was
Speaker 1: a tragedy. It was just really really blasphemy. But here's
Speaker 1: the problem. Georgia's football coach, Kirby's smart made it clear, however,
Speaker 1: that there's one issue of paramount importance to the SEC
Speaker 1: football coaches clarity in the future. The NCAA transfer portal
Speaker 1: So the biggest decision that has to be made across
Speaker 1: football right now to me, and this is Kirby Smart
Speaker 1: I'm reading for by Far is when the portal window
Speaker 1: is and when there is one or two? Smart said
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, we need one. There's one December ninth through
Speaker 1: twenty eighth, and there's one April sixteenth through twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: which he wants to change to one, Anthony, which I
Speaker 1: agree with completely, and he thinks it should be in April.
Speaker 1: I think it should also be cause of that's when
Speaker 1: the season, the academic season is over. People have forgotten
Speaker 1: this bouncing around. I don't know how kids are staying eligible, Anthony,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that tomorrow. But we're gonna just
Speaker 1: stick with the transfer portal in kids leaving. Do you
Speaker 1: agree with limiting it to one opportunity per year?
Speaker 3: No, they should. It's just too much bounced around at
Speaker 3: this point. It is I won't even say it chaotic.
Speaker 3: It's just it's kind of messing up sports. Even teams
Speaker 3: like I hate to say it, even some of my
Speaker 3: own favorite teams like I can't even keep up with
Speaker 3: the own roster. I don't know who signed, who's technically left.
Speaker 3: People are putting their name in the draft or not
Speaker 3: officially declaring keeping college eligibility. It's just there's so much
Speaker 3: going on. It's it's kind of it doesn't feel like
Speaker 3: college sports anymore. It just feels like I'm watching like
Speaker 3: the NBA, like a baby version. And everybody, I hate
Speaker 3: to say, everybody knows how boring and how annoying the
Speaker 3: NBA gets into the playoffs. Nobody watches the NBA regular season.
Speaker 3: This is kind of how I'm feeling about college sports
Speaker 3: a little bit. It's just like it's it's kind of
Speaker 3: boring until March madness or it gets to college football playoffs.
Speaker 1: You interesting concept. You sound old, Anthony. I can't believe
Speaker 1: that you're supposed to say I can keep up with
Speaker 1: all the movement. You're young, you live. I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't keep up with all.
Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot, Anthony, it's a lot.
Speaker 1: Now it gives us you and I something to talk
Speaker 1: about in dead periods, because it is a lot. Guys.
Speaker 1: Here's problem. I want people to know before we leave today.
Speaker 1: With the academic calendar, the NCAA and on. One of
Speaker 1: the pluses that they did do years ago is that
Speaker 1: kids had to progress toward a degree or they would
Speaker 1: be ineligible. And universities had to pay for summer school,
Speaker 1: and they had to find the money so that they
Speaker 1: kept the kids on progress to degree. And more student
Speaker 1: athletes graduate at a higher rate than regular students. I
Speaker 1: want people to know that. Let me say this again,
Speaker 1: more student athletes graduate at a higher rate than regular students,
Speaker 1: which is a good thing. Okay, but with all this
Speaker 1: movement and all this jumping around, one player was at
Speaker 1: three schools in the same season, which is madness. We're
Speaker 1: going to get into, which I think I would Coach Stoops,
Speaker 1: which is for tomorrow, Anthony. My biggest issue is the
Speaker 1: tampering issue. Not the transfer a portal. I do want
Speaker 1: to limit it to one, but that tamper issue, which
Speaker 1: is what we're going to get into tomorrow. I think,
Speaker 1: like Coach Stoop said, for a guy that has to
Speaker 1: grow his players and has to go get a high
Speaker 1: school kid red shirting, work with him, develop him, like
Speaker 1: coach Stoops has got me and Coach brom had to
Speaker 1: try to do the same thing at Purdue, Anthony. He
Speaker 1: had to try to do that at Purdue. He couldn't
Speaker 1: just recruit with Ohio State and Michigan. He couldn't do that,
Speaker 1: so he had to try to grow them. And it's
Speaker 1: very hard. You can look at his record at Louisville
Speaker 1: very good. His record at Purdue it was hit or miss,
Speaker 1: because you're trying to grow your program to where you
Speaker 1: can compete with the big dogs in the SEC Anthony
Speaker 1: no matter what, and the Big Ten in football, and
Speaker 1: the big Dogs and basketball now they are, and baseball,
Speaker 1: which we're going to get into tomorrow with a College
Speaker 1: Baseball World Series going on, and we're going to have
Speaker 1: to do something because the grades are going to start
Speaker 1: to fall. There's no way that every university is taking
Speaker 1: every kid's great. So I'm explaining this to you, University
Speaker 1: of Louisville. I've gone for two years, I've passed sixty hours.
Speaker 1: I'm transferring to Kentucky, the University of Kentucky. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: the University of Kentucky is only going to accept thirty
Speaker 1: six to forty of my hours from the University of Louisville.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a rival. No, this is every school and
Speaker 1: the only school that I ever seen other than the
Speaker 1: IVY League turned players away. Michigan did turn away Love
Speaker 1: from North Carolina he did not have enough credits to transfer, Anthony.
Speaker 1: Michigan University did it twice, a football player and a
Speaker 1: basketball player. They did not accept them, saying that they
Speaker 1: didn't have the hours to transfer in to keep him
Speaker 1: where he needed to be to graduate, so they denied it.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many schools have done that, Anthy,
Speaker 1: but I know Michigan did, and I have to give
Speaker 1: Michigan credit. It's going to start to hurt the grades
Speaker 1: and you're going to see people. If the NCAA makes
Speaker 1: them adhere to that rule, which they need to do, Anthony,
Speaker 1: it will slow down on the transferring because what will
Speaker 1: happen is only seniors will leave people with enough credit
Speaker 1: hours to transfer and graduate. Now that they're not giving
Speaker 1: people eight years anymore. They just denied Louisville's basketball players.
Speaker 1: We well know. We'll have to see what transpires. That's
Speaker 1: the rule, Anthony, that slows down the madness that. I
Speaker 1: don't care if the SEC leaves the NCAA. The academic
Speaker 1: standards have to stay because it is college. I'm with
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart pay the players still want my Anne Griff
Speaker 1: would have made a million out of made ten dollars,
Speaker 1: but I still want that ten dollars. You don't understand.
Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says deserved it, earned it
Speaker 1: I wanted. But they cannot drop the academic standards, which
Speaker 1: should slow down all this movement because every school. Just
Speaker 1: ask anyone that's had their kids try to transfer from
Speaker 1: one school to another, Anthony, they know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: They know that the other school it's not accepting all
Speaker 1: those credits. So guys, have a wonderful day. Yes, I
Speaker 1: was truly gladiator. I was trying to grab carpet and
Speaker 1: kiss it yesterday. You think I'm playing Asthmas Gwynn Blackbird,
Speaker 1: she came off at plane said, I thought it was over.
Speaker 1: It was just that bad God. Willie will be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Love you a great job ATNY, Great job, Shannon. Talk
Speaker 1: to y'all own Thursday. Bye bye,