Speaker 1: She said it was kind of mocking me, laughing and saying,
she thinks I'm gone and things might be better right now,
but I will be back eventually.
Speaker 2: For one woman, the paranormal began before she could even speak,
and for another man, it started with footsteps circling a
tent deep in the Wasatch Mountains. Both believe that the
encounters would stop with time if they were wrong. My
name is Edwin, and here are Kayley's and Ethan It's
true scary stories.
Speaker 1: One of my first memories of seeing a ghost was
when I was four or five years old at my
grandparents' house. I was spending the night with my aunt
at the time. I remember laying in her bed and
looking down the hallway and seeing almost a cowboy like
shadow standing in the doorway down the hall a little bit.
It was just a shadow. I couldn't see a face
or clothing anything like that, just kind of like a silhouette.
I knew it wasn't anyone who was in the house
at the time, so I automatically got scared and I
covered up my eyes at the blanket, and when I
pulled the blanket back down, he was gone. I remember
years later after that telling ghost stories kind of with
my aunt and my mom, and my aunt telling a
story about how she saw that same cowboy silhouette in
that same house around the same time too. Another time
was when I was ten years old. I was sleeping
in my room. I remember just waking up in the
middle of the night and there was a little boy
standing at the edge of my bed. He was dressed
and all white, but he was all scraped up and
you could tell they were like fresh cuts and bruises
all over his face and arms. He didn't say anything,
but I just remember him looking really sad. Same thing
kind of with the cowboy. I got super scared and
I covered up my eyes with my blanket, and then
when I pulled him back down, he was gone. I
just remember I screamed and screamed to my mom and
made her come into my room for the rest of
the night after that because I was so scared. But
I never saw him again. My really scary, serious paranormal experiences,
I guess you could say, started when I was about
sixteen or seventeen years old. I remember I was still
in high school and I was living with my grandma
at the time. When it first started, I remember I
was on her couch taking a nap. I had a
really bad nightmare during the nap. In my nightmare, I
was in a church. The church was pretty much empty
except every inch of the wall I had a crucifix
on it. There was crucifixes everywhere, just one by one.
They started flying at me and hitting me in my dream,
really hard, like stabbing me, cutting me, hitting me. One
by one, they just would fly off the walls and
hit me until I was on the floor bleeding. I
woke up and I was just super shaken up by it.
I remember being really scared, and I went to my
grandma and I told her about my nightmare. She told
me that that was the devil trying to communicate with me,
that he reaches out to you and your dreams, and
he was reaching out to me. She said, you know
this Sunday, I'm going to take you to church. So
that Sunday I went to church with my grandma. The
whole time in church, I was it sounds weird, but
I could have swore the priest was staring at me
the whole time. And I just remember having a horrible
headache and being really nauseous, and just like wanting to
go home. We went home and I had a crucifix
that was on a shelf in my room that I
had gotten from my first communion. And when I got home,
the crucifix was in the middle of the floor broken.
I have no idea how it would have fallen or move.
So that really scared me and I broke down. I
started crying, and my Grandmo then gave me across a
crucifix to where she told me to, you know, always
wear it, wear it when you sleep, right before you
go to bed, all this stuff, and I would except
every time I would sleep with a crucifix necklace, I
would wake up and it would be gone. I lost
fifteen to twenty necklaces just sleeping and I could never
find them. I would pull my bed out, take all
my sheets off, and they were just never anywhere. Also
during that time, I would wake up a lot in
the middle of the night and my bed would be shaking.
I would wake up and they would shake for a
minute and it would just stop. It's like almost when
I was awake. It knew I woke up and kind
of stopped. It was really strange, but I could feel
it while I was still sleeping. It's hard to explain.
There would also be dead birds, squirrels, rabbits, snakes outside
of my window almost daily, not all at the same time,
but once a day there would be some type of
dead animal outside of my window. When all this was happening,
another time in the house, I was taking a bath
and I was laying in the bath and I was
home alone. All of a sudden, someone bangs on the door,
like really loud banging, and I like, sit up, and
of course I'm scared because I know I'm home alone.
And I just said, you know, who is it, Grandma
my dad's name, and Noah answered, and then just one
more time playing bang bang, really loud on the door,
and I we had a mirror, and the mirror even
like rattled in the bathroom, how loud it knocking me.
So I got up out of the bath really fast,
you know, because I was like, someone's messing with me.
I'm like, this is it's not funny. So I got
up and slammed the door open, and no one was
there for a while. I kind of thought I was
going crazy because my dad and my uncle, my grandma,
they all would just you know, oh, you watch too
many ghost shows, you watch too many scary movies. This
is you know, your imagination is running wild. I kind
of thought I was going crazy too, Like maybe I'm
just I'm stressed. I don't know what it was. But
I had a friend come over one day and we
were decorating our graduation caps. We were be dazzling them
for graduation. We're in my room and all of a sudden,
all the power goes out in the house, like the
fuse blows. Everything shuts off, and I'm like, what the heck.
So I'm home alone with I mean, I'm with my friend,
but we're there by ourselves. So I go on the basement,
I flip the braker back on. Everything's fine. We'd go
upstairs and we're decorating our cap and then we both
hear a growl and it sounds like a dog growling almost,
or some type of like animal. It's just a really
deep growl. And she looks at me, and I look
at her, and at first I'm thinking, like, I'm just
going to ignore it, because I kind of got used
to ignoring things by then. Things would happen and I
would just brush it off. But she asked me if
I got a dog if I had gotten a dog,
and I said, no, I don't have any dogs or
cats or anything like that. And she's like, well, what
is that growling? And at that time when she asked,
my heart just sank and I was like, Okay, someone
else hears this. Someone else is experiencing this too. And
I remember I stayed really calm, and I was like,
just get your things and let's go. And I just
we left the house because I that was scary, because
it kind of for me, made it seem like it
was all real. During this time, when I would sleep
at my mother's house, I would have sleep paralysis almost
every night. It was my eighteenth birthday and I had
three girls spending the night at my house for a sleepover.
We were all sleeping laying in the living room. We
had made like palettes on the floor because we all
just slept together on the floor in the living room.
I woke up in the middle of the night and
I remember you could see my dining room from my
living room. It was kind of like a It was open,
so I could see somebody sitting at the dining room
table and I looked. I just kind of put my
head back down because I didn't think anything of it,
and then I looked again and they were still just
sitting there in that same position, and I thought it
was weird because they were sitting in the dark. There
was no lights on in the house, and so I said, Mom,
is that you Mom? And whatever it was, its head
like turned towards me, and then it stood up from
the chair. But when it stood up, it was huge,
taller than the ceiling. It almost had to like bend
its head down when it got to its full height
because it was too tall for the ceiling. I couldn't
see anything except just a figure. It was like ahead
and then all black, no face, just a huge black shadow,
almost just standing there and kind of similar to what
I typically do when I get super scared of Gosay
covered my eyes up with the blanket because I just
remember being so scared, and I when I took it
back down, it was gone. And then I went and
I woke my mom up and I told her about it,
and she just said, I was imagining, you know, probably
had a bad dream something. Just go back to bed.
So I went back to bed. Things did stop, and
it was when I went and I got a tattoo
of a cross on the back of my neck because
I got tired of losing all my jewelry, like my crucifixes,
and so I was like, you know, I'm just gonna
put it on my body where it can't go missing,
it can't be removed. And after I got that tattoo,
everything kind of like I didn't have any more experiences
at my grandma's, I didn't have any more sleep paralysis.
Everything for me kind of stopped after that, probably three
or four years after all of my experiences stopped. After
I got that tattoo on the back of my neck,
I was working in a restaurant and I was the
manager at the time, and I was interviewing for a position,
an open position, and I interviewed this one lady and
she was telling me that she was a medium and
that she read auras. She was saying how my aura
was really bright, but she said that she could see
a shadow in the corner. She asked my permission, She said,
you know, can I grab your hands? Do you mind
if I do a reading? And I'm like super interested
in all of that, always has been, so I was like, yeah,
of course. So she was reading my aura and she
just telling me about the colors white and yellow, and
then she said that there was a black shadow and
that it was attached and it didn't feel good. And
then she said that whatever it was was talking to her.
She said it was kind of mocking me, laughing and
saying she thinks I'm gone and things might be better
right now, but I will be back eventually. She kind
of got scared, and then I got scared, and I
was like, well, what does that mean, And she was like, well,
it's not talking to me anymore. Whatever it is isn't
talking to me anymore, but it told me that it's
going to come back. That's kind of always in the
back of my mind at all times, like to this day,
there has to be a light somewhere otherwise I just
get super uneasy and anxious, and that sentence always comes
back to me. I work in a super old brewery.
It was built in eighteen forty seven, so it's a
very very old building, so I have experiences there. I've
had experiences there pretty often in my house now it's
not as much now, and when they are, I would
say there are more like ghost experiences where this thing
I felt this was the only time where I've felt
something evil and not just paranormal. When I drive to work,
I drive past the cemetery every day, and probably one
or two months ago, I was driving past, and I
in my rear view mirror, I just got a glimpse
of someone in my rear view and I pulled over.
I swerved because just instantly I thought someone broke was
in my car from when I left for work, you know,
So I pull over, I swerve, and I turn around
and there's no one there, and so I just rest
of the way to work. But I had a feeling
like I was driving past the cemetery when it happened,
and I wonder if it was just you know, now,
I remember my you know, I can remember a lot
of my prayers, but they'll be on occasion where I
just get a really like heavy feeling and I just
think to myself, I just need to say a prayer
really fast, and every once in a while I'll forget it.
I'm a big believer too, of like, your words are powerful,
and I think giving any type of energy to those
kind of evil things, they they definitely that's what they're
looking for, you know. I was, I was kind of
nervous to even talk about it today, because I just
get a little scared that if I do talk about it,
that it's giving it that attention.
Speaker 3: I grew up in a southeast of Salt Lake City, Utah,
near the mountains. My parents still live up in that area,
and I was blessed I grew up in this area
because I'm really close to these canyons and these mountains,
and I just a frequent this one particular canyon. I
still go there actually all the time. For this day,
I'm hiking up there. For over forty years. The canyon,
the Little Conwood Canyon, was actually formed by a glacier
back in the ice Age.
Speaker 4: They say it's still there. It's still like deep in
the canyon.
Speaker 3: Back in nineteen ninety two, when I was fourteen, my
parents let me and my friends go backpack camping up there,
and so we started hiking up in this canyon near their.
Speaker 4: House, about a.
Speaker 3: Fifteen to twenty minute walk from their front door, and
we camped up there all summer at this one spot. Now,
this particular camp spot, it's very well hidden. It's way
off the trail. Not very many people knew about it.
It's not very far when you're just walking down the street.
But when you're going up into the canyon with a
heavy pack, it takes a good time amount of time
to get up in there. This one particular night, my
friend Dave and I, who I'm still very.
Speaker 4: Good friends with the notice we were really young.
Speaker 3: We were up there camping and we'd gone to bed,
and we were in it just like a little two
man tent. Probably around one point thirty in the morning,
this big gust of wind came down the canyon and
just hit our.
Speaker 4: Tent, and it woke me up.
Speaker 3: I sat up and looking around and startled me so much,
and I looked over my friend Dave and he was out.
He was always a really deep sleeper bouldered the size
of a Volkswagen. Could have fallen off the cliff next
to us an explode, and probably wuldn't have woken him up.
As I'm sitting there, it got quiet again. There's a
stream nearby. During the spring it's really loud, but this
was late summer, so it wasn't very noisy. There's a
really bright moon out to the west, probably about where
the sun is about three or four o'clock in the afternoon,
and I started hearing something walking around our tent. The
ground around the tent is very packed hard dirt and
gravel and whatever. This was walking around our tent circled
it two or three, maybe four times, going really slow.
They might think, well, was it an animal? No, it
wasn't an animal, because there are mountain lions and black
bears up there, but you're not going to hear pause
from those animals going around a tent, and they would
probably be sniffing around and getting into our camp stuff outside.
Whoever or whatever this was circled our tent several times,
and I was just frozen.
Speaker 4: It was kind of a fight or flight. So I
looked over my friend Dave.
Speaker 3: He's still out and I'm kind of quietly trying to
wake him up. I just shake him a little bit
that he was not waking up, and I didn't want
to make a lot of noise. This went on probably
three or four minutes, this thing just slowly circling our tent,
and I couldn't see anything, even though the moon was
out where our tent was, we were in the shadow
of these large pine trees and so that I couldn't
see any shape or anything, and it just felt really creepy.
What was happening outside. Well, after a few minutes, I
didn't hear anything. Stupid me, and you know, age fourteen,
we had a BB gun.
Speaker 4: That was the only thing we had. We brought up
there a sort of protection that's not going to protect
it from anything.
Speaker 3: But I decided to slowly unzip the tent.
Speaker 4: I kind of peeked out. I didn't see anything.
Speaker 3: And it's like I said, about one thirty in the morning,
and I slowly stepped out, and I had this BB gun.
I had a flashlight, and back in the early nineties,
flashlights weren't nearly as good as they are now. And
I looked around, got out, checked everywhere, and I felt
like I was being watched, and I didn't see anything.
I looked all over our camp spot, looked in bushes,
looked behind trees, and I couldn't figure out who or
what this was.
Speaker 4: Whatever it was was gone, and I just felt like
I was being watched.
Speaker 3: Now, you might think that maybe somebody was hiking down
the canyon or hiking up the canyon and stumbled across
our camp spot, but this camp spot is.
Speaker 4: Very well hit.
Speaker 3: It's probably about seventy or eighty yards away from the
main trail and you have to kind of bushwhack and
go across the stream to get to it.
Speaker 4: And not many people know about this spot. So as
I was sitting.
Speaker 3: There looking around, and I went back in the tent
and just kind of sat there, had a really hard
time palm back and sleep. The next day we got
up and I told him about it. He just had
a look of horror on his face, and I told
him I couldn't wake him up to save my life,
you know, if there was fight or flights, something was
going to happen. And we looked in the dirt, couldn't
see any tracks or anything, but there was something circling
our tent. And if it was like a person, why
would this person be up there in the middle of
the night creeping around our tent or I don't know
if it was what it was or who it was,
but it didn't seem like it was a person, just
because the feeling that I had wasn't good. It could
have been paranormal. I don't know whatever was walking around
our tent that night.
Speaker 4: It was heavy. We camped in that spot enough.
Speaker 3: That we packed down all the dirt and the weeds,
and there was nothing there but just dirt and gravel.
Whatever it was made enough sound, but it was heavy
whatever it was walking around our tent, and it definitely
wasn't an animal. That was the first experience that I
had in this canyon up at that spot. So I'll
give you a little bit of history that canyon though,
that whole area has a lot of mining history where
there's gold mines and silver mines. They're all sealed up,
but it had a lot of mining history in that area. Also,
we found actual records of a pioneer cemetery down near
the mouth of the canyon. Wells still up in the
canyon of ways, probably about seven or eight people are
buried in this one spot. A neighbor that I grew
up with, who's now in his eighties, that still lives
up there, actual found records of this pioneer cemetery up there.
When he told me about it, I was about twelve
years old, and then he told us where it was at.
We went over there, this little clear spot, and I
just did, Yeah, you could tell there was something there.
It's odd that they would put this burial plot of
whoever is buried there next to this old silver mine.
These mines were operated from eighteen hundreds all the way
up to the nineteen.
Speaker 4: Seventies, off and on. I'm not sure why they would
bury people up there, or like when exactly they did,
but he said it was probably around the eighteen eighties
eighteen nineties that they bury people up there. Is what
the records show.
Speaker 3: The Mormon settlers that settled there back in the eighteen
hundreds had a lot of classes with the native tribes.
There's a lot of fighting going on there, a lot
of deaths. That canyon may have had. Some of that
happen up there, a lot of mining operations where people
might have been hurt or killed. There's a lot of
rich history up there, and a lot of it wasn't good.
About ten years ago, they found human remains in that
same canyon. They identified it as this forty year old
woman who lived in West Valley City, which west of
Salt Lake City. They found just human remains up there,
and they finally identified this person that had been up
there for months in that very same canyon up kind
of where above where those mines are. They don't know
how she got up there. Somehow she got a ride,
took a bus or something, and just they don't know
why she hiked up into this canyon and fell off
a cliff and died.
Speaker 4: It was on the news and everything.
Speaker 3: And it's really strange that like some hiker just went
off the trail and happened to find her bones out there.
Speaker 4: Another instance that I have.
Speaker 3: This happened in nineteen ninety six when I was eighteen.
Speaker 4: My friend Mark and I went hiking up there.
Speaker 3: It was really late when we were hiking, and we
were coming down the canyon and it just kind of
felt like something was off.
Speaker 4: I took him home, he lived about five minutes away.
Then I went home.
Speaker 3: And when I went to bed, when as a teenager,
I couldn't sleep without having like music on, I would
turn on. I had a like a Sony stereo receiver
in one of those five to CD changers, and I
would just turn music on really low. I lay in bed,
I'm trying to go to sleep. The light from the
stereo and the CD player just it kind of you know,
emits a little bit of light like a nightlight, and
I'm laying in bed and I felt like something was
in my room. I had my door shut.
Speaker 4: And something.
Speaker 3: I just felt like, something ominous was in my room.
I couldn't see my stereo, like it's something stepped in
front of it. And I'm thinking, I'm just tired. So
I decided to open my eyes, thinking maybe like one
of my family members came in, but they never did,
and I wouldn't hurt my door open. As soon as
I opened my eyes, it was like a black mist
just banished, and whatever it was, it was not a
good thing. The next day, I was talking to my
friend Mark, and I didn't really think much about it.
I thought me about I just tired, and it was
just it was the creepiest thing. But when I brought
it up, and his face just went completely pale and
he was just shocked. He said, he's like, what time
did that happen? And I said it was like eleven
forty five or something, and He's like, the exact same
thing happened to me last night. In his bedroom. He
has a bunk bed that he and his brother to
share a bedroom, and they just left the bunk bed
and there my friend Mark slept on the top bunk.
His bunk bed is really tall. I remember it being
like a really tall and I'm over. I've been over
six feet.
Speaker 4: Tall since I was like sixteen. His bed is like.
Speaker 3: This mattress is like the top of my head, he said.
He was laying in bed, felt like something was standing
by his bed staring at him. He says he opened
his eyes and there was about a seven to eight
foot tall shadow figure or dark figure standing staring at him.
He said it scared him so bad he threw a
punch and his arm just went through it, and then
it just evaporated. And he said he could make out
kind of eye sockets, sort of some facial features.
Speaker 4: But he said that whatever it was, it was not
a good thing. It was evil.
Speaker 3: It felt like something following us down the canyon. And
we think that something visited us at the exact same time,
and it wasn't good. It was malevolent. So this happened
in the summer of I believe twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen.
I was hiking solo. I was way up the canyon
and by the time I was coming down, it was
about ten thirty eleven o'clock at night. I wasn't anywhere
near this camp spot where we were back in the
nineties where I heard that whatever it was walking on
our ten. But I was coming down the canyon and
it was just an absolutely gorgeous night.
Speaker 4: No wind, it was clear skies.
Speaker 3: There was like a really bright I think a full
moon just brought above me where the sun.
Speaker 4: Is at noonday.
Speaker 3: And I'm coming down the trail and it was so
bright outside. I didn't have my headlamp on. I had
it on my head just because there's mountain lions up
there and there's skungs you don't want to run into
at night.
Speaker 4: But it was so bright.
Speaker 3: I was just coming down the trail and as I
always got the creeps when I go went past where
this old pioneer cemetery or burial plot is from the
eighteen hundreds, that sits right next to these old band
and this old a band in gold and silver mine
and again this mine sealed up, but it was a
massive operation back in the day. And I heard voices
over there, and I'm to hear people talking. So I
get down there. I'm like, okay, am I hearing this right?
And I stopped and I could hear people talking over that.
I didn't see any flashlights, I didn't see any campfire,
but I could hear a conversation going on, but I
couldn't quite make out what they were saying, and I
thought it was kind of odd there would be people
over there because it's really overgrown and just completely bushwhacked.
It's really hard to get over into that spot now,
So I decided I was going to just kind of
creep through the trees and go look over there. So
I went off the trail and you have to kind
of cross the stream and go up this river bank
about fifteen twenty feet that's kind of steep, and the
second I get to the off of this river bank,
this voice has completely stopped. And I thought it was
really odd, because the funny thing is I actually thought
it might be somebody I knew, and I was just
going to go over there and try to scare them
because I would run into people up there pretty often
that I knew that lived in the area. But the
second I got to the top of that river bank,
the voice has stopped, and there's no way anybody if
anybody was over there knew I was there because I
didn't make any sound, I didn't have my head lamp on.
I was kind of going through the shadows of the trees,
and so I stood there and the trees looking out
kind of into that area seemed like it's anybody moving
around because it was really bright with the moon, and
I decided, okay, I'm going to turn my headlampon. So
I turned my head lamp on and I stepped out there,
and there was nobody there, and I heard a conversation,
multiple people talking.
Speaker 4: Couldn't, like I said, I couldn't make out what they
were saying. And again, I'm just like, this is really weird.
Speaker 3: And so I started looking around, and I don't go
over there very often because it's just so overgrown and
I'm you know, kind of bushwhacking through the trees and
looking around, and again I just felt like I was
being watched. I felt like there was eyeballs on me,
and just there's something or somebody.
Speaker 4: Was watching me.
Speaker 3: And it was really creepy. And I looked everywhere. So
I decided, Okay, I'm just gonna hike down. I'm gonna
come back up the next day and see if there's
any way if there were people up here, if they
could have just taken off without me hearing them or
seeing them. I went up there the next day during
the day, and the only way to get into that
spot without just absolutely making a lot of noise and
bushwhacking through everything was the way I went.
Speaker 4: It is the best way to get in. I couldn't,
for live me figure out.
Speaker 3: If somebody was up there, how they would just take
off or be able to even hide, because I looked everywhere,
and I believe that possibly it was I don't know,
spirits or something over there, residual energy or something maybe,
but there was a full blown conversation going on over there.
And sometimes the sounds of the city come up into
the canyon, and I've heard that, but this definitely wasn't.
I thought that's what it was at first, until I
got close enough and I could still hear people talking.
And it just gives me the goosebumps thinking about that
right now, and it freaked me out. When I was
over there. One hundred percent there was people over there talking.
I don't know why it stopped as soon as I
got to the top of that river bank and then
went over there. And even if there were people there
and they knew I was there and they went to
go hide, I would have for sure at least heard them,
and it would have been almost impossible for them not
to make a lot of noise. There was a high
school teacher of mine. He moved to Colorado and he
lived up the street and he hiked up in those
mountains all the time, and he's like, yeah, this area
is crazy haunted. He's like, I've seen and heard things
up in these canyons, but I've heard by myself a lot.
And he said that he avoided that area where these
pioneers are supposedly buried.
Speaker 4: He just said it was really creepy.
Speaker 3: My friend Dale, he said that he was hiking down
from that canyon one night and there's an old another
old mine further up. But he said that he was
coming down that and he could see almost like a
shadow figure.
Speaker 4: Like standing near it when he's hiking down at night.
Speaker 3: He just took off running down the canyon and he
said something was standing there and he could see it outlined.
Speaker 4: Against the rocks because he's coming down the trail. We
still camp in this spot to this day. We went
up there.
Speaker 3: Last fall, my son and I when he got old. No,
we started camping up there by eight years ago. But
this last fall we camped up there in this same
spot again. I was sleeping in a hammock. My son
was sleeping in a hammock and my friend Ryan.
Speaker 4: Had gone with us. Not twelve thirty night.
Speaker 3: I got out of my hammock and that he's the
bathroom and relieved myself. When I got up and I walked,
you know, to go do my business, I heard a
whisper in my ear that said hey.
Speaker 4: I looked, I turned around.
Speaker 3: I thought maybe my friend Ryan had gone out of
his tent or something, and nobody was there, and it
freaked me out.
Speaker 4: So I looked over and I went over my friend's.
Speaker 3: Tent and I was like, you know, Ryan, Ryan, you
no seeing if he was awake, if he said something
to me, he was out.
Speaker 4: My son was out.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that was, but it was right
in my ear, and I was probably about thirty or
forty feet away from him when I heard this, and it.
Speaker 4: Was pitts black outside. There was no moon.
Speaker 3: We've camped in this spot had probably eight to ten
times in the last seven or eight years, and this
is the most recent thing that happened. When I heard
that whisper in my ear, that voice was unrecognizable. I'm
not sure who it was or what it was, but
it startled me pretty bad, and it kind of brought
back memories of the whatever it was.
Speaker 4: Creeping around our tent.
Speaker 3: The canyon is pretty creepy at times, but I've never
had fear of camping up there. I think there's something
up there in that area unexplained. The things that I've
heard and seen. I mean, I've hiked up in this
area hundreds of times, and ninety nine percent a time
it's nothing.
Speaker 4: But it's a little spooky. When you're up there at night.
You hear things, and you'll hear some voices. And I've
heard laughing coming out of the trees.
Speaker 3: Before, like somebody laughing when I've been up there just
camping with some of my friends when nobody was up there.
So a lot of strange noises, a lot of unexplained
things go on up there in that area. There's an
energy up there that I can't explain.
Speaker 2: All Right, I really hope you enjoyed these stories. I
have a couple of notes here. We're gonna start off
with the Killy story, the very first one that we
heard tonight, this one when you were having the phone call.
There was some very interesting things here that I thought about,
which were just how early she started experiencing all these things,
you know, before she could speak like she was. She
couldn't even understand death. At that moment, she was able
to communicate with somebody who wasn't there, you know. But
then once we started finding out more about the details,
that's what makes these things more connected.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: It seems like at first or like we're hearing several
experiences from her, and then they start connecting because she's
the one that has the ability to see this. Now,
did you get catch this the cowboy silhouette incident? Now
because her aunt saw that same figure years earlier, she
hadn't told her about it, doesn't that prove just how
much or how little we know about what else is
out there. It's what makes me think, right, because when
things get proven that like that, like when you see
something and somebody says, oh, I also saw that thing,
a person who's hearing this might be like, well, they
just probably made it up, or no, they're you know,
there's there's something else there. Maybe it was a coincidence,
and it's possible, yeah, but then it's also possible that
it isn't. So I feel like it's a concept debate
here when we're talking about this, because there is this
level of skepticism that I try to keep as we're
listening to stories. But also we have to believe that
what a person saw that they believe that they saw
that they experienced also has their truth to it, right,
So we can't just cancel out the parts that we
want to believe because it makes sense. We also have
to accept everything, you know, because yeah, this is how
it is. We can't just pick what we want. The
other note here is that I have of something about
the medium. You know, the person who said, hey, you
know they were interviewing somebody. I think it, Yeah, Kelly
was interviewing somebody and they said, hey, by the way,
you have this thing. It wants to talk to you
or has a message, and that it's going to come back,
Like imagine you're hearing that, like goodness. Also if it
hasn't happened yet, is it going to happen? Is something
going to try to reach out to her?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: When we're talking about scary stories and the person is
reliving the things that they're communicating to us, right like
as they're telling us a story that they're thinking back
on it and everything. I do get several emails like
it's a common thing. We put an email me saying, hey,
you know what, after I told you the story, this
thing happened or I thought of this other thing. Strange
little messages start coming by, and I feel like we
open up in our minds back to that. And I'm
curious to know if Kaylee you're listening, has anything happened,
Has anything happened since? Very curious, you know, hopefully we
don't trigger something here that we don't want. I talk
a little bit about even story, right, because this is
a whole different energy to it. This was not really
a person but a location. And here we talk about
pioneer activity, you know, mining and all that stuff, abandoned mines,
and you know, I follow this YouTube channel. I'm not
sure what the name of it is, but it talks
about this guy who lives in the Sarah Gordo area
in California where they had silver mines or something like that,
and he's living there. He's trying to build out this town,
like reviving it and everything, and I find that very interesting.
But there's also a lot of crime and a lot
of stuff that you know, happens when you build out
these towns because there's money there and everybody's close with
each other, like as in everybody knows each other, they
know each other's dramas, they want each other. There's things
and things can get a little crazy. Well, this one
was about the cemetery area, and I don't know, it
just really got me thinking of a time that we
discovered this cemetery. I mean for us in college, you know,
back in the in the day in Pomona. I'm not
sure if any of you guys are familiar with this
southern California, the Pomona area. You know, it has it's
known for some of its dark side, right, it has
a lot of night activity. So we can leave it
at that, you know, But there's this hill, there's this
mountain area. You know, as you're driving around southern California
you see these hills sometimes you always wonder like who,
like like do they belong to anybody? Like what is that? Well,
we found a way to get in, and in order
to get in, to climb up to the top and
just kind of sit there for a little bit, we
had to cross through this abandoned, really really old cemetery
and I remember it was under a bridge. It's around
it's around Polypomona, around that universe city. When we stumbled
upon it, We're like, whoa, this is so insane. We're
seeing the years there, like earlier in nineteen hundreds, late
eighteen hundreds, I believe, not one hundred percent sure, but
that was ierie enough. I imagine a campground, a campsite
being around somewhere around there. I think that would be
I don't know. I wouldn't stay there, but you know,
also the same the similar things here happen right where
he experienced these things. He told the stories to other people.
Other person says, hey, you know what, me too. I
try it to go that way. There's just something there,
something really eerie. So how many times has that happened?
Where you experienced something you tell somebody, they're like, oh, yeah,
well I experienced that too. And I have one experience
something that happened with me back in I want to say,
like eight or so years ago, when I had arrived
to Ecuador. Now how that works. I used to make
that trip often right, and I would have to stay
overnight in an airport before going to that city in
the morning. So anyway, I was really tired, and as
I arrived at my wife's house like her family, like
they have this room, the next room in an area
in their backyard, like as they have a separate little building.
And I stayed there. I was sleeping and I get
woken up by this and I'm not making this up
at all, okay, and I'm not trying to make this
a thing like this is genuinely, like, genuinely what I saw.
It was a little boy who was standing at the
foot of the bed, actually a little distance away, maybe
maybe about a meter away, like a yard away from
the foot of the bed, and he was just standing
there staring at me. Now, I woke up and I
kind of looked his way and I saw him and
I'm like, oh no, like like some you know, some
family member, somebody's kid is up here and I'm trying
to sleep, and I remember he was like really dirty,
like covered in mud, like really really dirty, and I
looked at him, kind of dozed off again. I just
fell asleep. I'm like, if igno, he's just gonna go away.
And that was that. Right About a couple hours later,
they called me to go get dinner and I go
down there and I'm like, you're not gonna believe what
I just saw. There was a little kid at the
foot of the bed, and everybody at the table looked
at each other and they were like, what room did
you stay in? And then one of the people that said, oh,
and et de la Bruca in the witch's room. I
was like what they said. You know, everybody has had
like an experience in that room, but usually it's like
this this witch that comes as you're sleeping and like
sits on top of you, like kind of sleep proalyssis
kind of thing, old hag kind of thing. And I
was like, well, that's not what happens, Like, oh, well,
we've seen things there, you know, why would I see
a little kid covered in mud? I don't know. And
back to this thing, right, I saw something other people
had seen that I had no idea that this was
a thing there, And I felt like, why didn't you
guys tell me, right, I was gonna be sleeping there.
But anyway, I found that super interesting. Just kind of
little note there. If you have experienced something like this
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