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Speaker 1: And we are back the complete Hull Cogan, the Lapsed

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Fan Wrestling Podcast WWF. We're All Star Wrestling Showdown at

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Shay nineteen eighty Hogan, Andre Sibisco Bruno and so much more.

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And we've been on lots of empty seats.

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Speaker 2: Hold on one second, though, because you know what, it's

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been a while, so I know we're a little bit

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rusty here. Oh my god, how could I forget? Because

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this is the first time we've done this on the

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complete well the first time we've done a death toll.

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And here we go. We have including you know, my

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commentary tracks that I that I gathered, I included those

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as well. We have twenty five, twenty five people and

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this is nineteen eighty I mean, yeah, God's sake, it's

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I mean, the fact that there are people who are

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still alive is the miracle workable? Yep. Cal Rudman, Sure Angels, Maravilla,

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Dominic Denucci, Baron, Michael Secluna, Chaffo Guerrero and Tony Minocchi,

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Larry Sharp, Pedro Morales, Lou Albano, Alfa, Sika, Pat Patterson,

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tour Caamata, the Fabulous Mula, Beverly Shade, Canned him, Alloy,

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Peggy Lee, all four Women, Yeah, Rick McGraw, even though

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we don't see him, Yes, the Grand Wizard, Real Monsoon,

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Gene Okerland, Rene Goulai, Andre the Giant, Bruno San Martino,

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and Homo Kogan. That one hit hard. Let that one

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sit in, all right. That's that's where we're at now.

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Never that's that's the biggest name I think that's ever

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been on The Death Toll. And it's it's weird, it's

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kind of real. Now it's real. It really is for

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the first time, it's real. Yep for us yep on

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the Death Toll to hear his name in that context,

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we're always able to skip over his name, you know,

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and just be like, oh, remember all these these uh

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background players, they're all gone now. I mean, how many

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times we're going to hear that The Death Toll is

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going to have him every single time we do a show.

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That's why we're here. Yep, thanks for that. Yep.

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Speaker 1: That was a reset and somebody with us so on

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the version I have, and I hope we're working off

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the same sheet of music. If not, we'll figure it out.

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We open on lots of empty seats and personnel on

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the dirt, the ditty and folding chairs and a table,

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and there's Mel Phillips and a cameraman and guys and

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T shirts walking around, and up in the ring it's

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Vince McMahon and a tan blazer and black slacks, two

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wrestlers and a referee. This is where you see that

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shirtless guy suddenly walk onto the field and the camera range.

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Speaker 2: First of many times we see this clown.

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Speaker 1: Greenish posts, navy turnbuckles, gray ropes, navy apron, and for

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the first time, a purple mat.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what is that purple mass about? I don't know.

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It's like they get lost everything, like, ah shit, well

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we got a all right, let's put some shit together.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's absorbing of the sun and reflecting

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maybe a material color that you can handle it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But Vince, his voice echoing across Shay Stadium like he's

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Martin Luther King at the million Man March.

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Speaker 2: Hi, tonight tonight, dinner, rostling, rostling. He good, please, I

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was just gonna say, I don't know. I mean, I

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was just gonna say that, well you go, you go.

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I was gonna say, I have a whole Michael Cole

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giving us a history lesson as to why Vince is

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the ring announcer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll bring I'll bring Cole in, but Vince list

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the judges assigned. He lists doctor Harry Miller as a

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physician in attendance, and Billy Capudo, the metro referee, is

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introduced as well by Vince, and we get this low

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angle hard camera shot. We get a few angles that

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we see throughout the course of the broadcast as a

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estrada of course up there first and that high angle

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hard camera you can see the grass, like I said,

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on the top half of your screen, on the far

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side of the ring. Yes, And there's a bunch of

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photographers assembled at that spot along the ring apron. You

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see Bill Apters, see George Napolitano. They're even called out

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by the aforementioned Michael Cole and McK foley on their

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commentary track. And then from Santra Domingo it's angel or

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Speaker 2: Yep, here he goes talking about Vince McMahon and the

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history of why he's the ring announcer.

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Speaker 3: Vince McMahon the ring announcer for this historic event. Mick

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and Howard Finkel was supposed to announce the show, but

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circumstances prevented him from doing so, And Fink was telling

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us that back in nineteen eighty, when our business was territorial,

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Speaker 4: So Fink had to be there. So Vince did the

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ring announce.

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Speaker 5: It shows you how much the world has changed when

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WW was cooperating with Jim Crockett Promotions. I mean, not

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only was the year end dow at nine hundred and

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sixty three points, not only was the average cost of

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a new house nineteen thousand and five hundred, but there

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was a great crop cooperation between Crockett Promotions and WW.

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Speaker 6: We'll see if.

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Speaker 3: There's cooperation between Angel Maravella and Jose Estrada in this

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Speaker 1: What a star studded opener. I don't know about that

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whole explanation. I mean, maybe it seems like we only

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see Fink in the garden, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why they were taping television in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: First of all, well, yeah, why was Jim Crockett up there.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, Ye, the crocket results of nineteen eighty are

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pretty sparse. Maybe someone of the solar systems can help

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try to line up in August ninth, nineteen eighty dight

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with this. But even then, why would Finkle announce a

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Jim Crockett show? Maybe I'm totally I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Like again, it was like, I mean, it seemed like

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he was lent out because there was still you know,

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there was still camaraderie. It wasn't as as segregated as

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Vince would make it. I don't know it was. It's weird.

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It's a weird explanation. I mean, almost as weird as

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fucking obviously mc foley being told to have all these

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stats available. Yeah, like, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just came in having fun and wikipediaing a

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couple of things, and they had their things.

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Speaker 2: They would say, I remember, if I remember correctly, this

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particular when this aired, when this version of the show aired,

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didn't wasn't this Maybe something else, I don't know, but

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I thought it was this particular show where everyone was

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blown away by Michael Cole that he wasn't just a robot, yes,

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that he actually was entertaining as a commentator, and we

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all realized for the first time that, Wow, he's really

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just being manipulated by Vince over you on commentary and

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that's why he sucks. Like, if you let him go,

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he's actually pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because this twenty oh seven was the ear he

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and Vince was saying it. He was repeating it in

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real time. I don't know if it was this particular show,

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but I do know it was as the twenty four

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seven broadcasts came out and Cole was able to voice

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them over with pretty much free reign, without any producer

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and probably very little in the way of oversight as

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far as like fear that Vince would ever even listen

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to this stuff. That people did realize that Michael Cole

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has a personality and if you let him just kind

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of free ball a bit, he'll actually carry a broadcast

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well and keep you entertained. I think this was really

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the first chance he had to show that side of himself.

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fully helps a lot too, because he's in there, yes,

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kind of opening it, opening up a tone of kind

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of joking around, and as someone who would hitchhiked to

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the garden and who was a huge, massive WW fan

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coming of age at this particular point in time, but

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fully definitely could plug into, like, you know, the camp

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of what he was seeing on this show. Yeah, oh

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for sure, and actually, you know, love it and embrace

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it warmly instead of just kind of making merciless fun

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of it. He pokes fun at it, of course, as

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you have to looking at it twenty thirty years later,

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but he does it in a way where you can

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tell that he once bought into and he fully understands

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why that stadium is full.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean honestly, you know, it's it's fun. They

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make fun out of love, not out of criticism. I

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mean honestly. It reminded me of us. Yeah, in Matt

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of not out of out of I mean, yes, out

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of frustration too, But.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we hate We hate wrestling enough to do seven

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hundred thousand hours of podcasting about it over a decade.

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So there's Cole, and there's Foley and that Crockett story.

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I don't know, I don't know what to make of it.

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The cooperation was very real because, as we'll talk about

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as we go, none other than NWA World Heavyweight Champion

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nine and eighty building towards a September Madison Square Garden

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Champion versus champion match against Bob Becklan No less, which

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will factor in later as we go. We've already seen

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some Harley Race stuff interspersed with our Hogan stuff from

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the Hamburg and Allentown television taping, So there is that

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sintilla of truth to what he's saying, if nothing else.

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So it's andel r Via Vsus Osistrata to totally you know, basic,

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Speaker 2: With the open brilliant. These are these are the main

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event anywhere in the world except Chase Stadium apparently.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't this just kind of look like a show

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Brody would gett stabbed on?

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Speaker 2: Oh, for God's sakes, Yes, So.

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Speaker 1: They shake hands and Strata hits an arm drag. Former

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Junior champion Michael Cole says was a Strata color elbow

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in a hip tooss by Marvilla Lock up and headlock Astrata

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to the top wristlock. Mrvia trips him to break it up.

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to his feet, collar.

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Speaker 2: And elbow to the ropes. Clean break.

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Speaker 1: Yep, this is a demonstration, exhibition, if you will, of

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Speaker 2: That's that's exactly you know what that's I jotted that

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down myself. That Watson the white cowboy hat. There's a

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guy in a cowboy had at ringside. Well. Cole does comment

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on the on the dress code in nineteen.

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have the dress code enforced as of lettuce Be, especially

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Speaker 3: What would happen today if you were a ring attendant

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and you showed up without a shirt on.

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Speaker 2: Tremendous He couldn't even say anything. Yeah, so put him

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you what a didn't Wasn't it too? Like even Michael

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Cole would get so into it that he yielded a

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guy like at a a real celebrity for wearing shorts

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was I think the first time. Yeah, well,

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what happened is Lebron had done it, you know, because

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and Pat McAfee did it before anyone knew who he was. Well,

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up at the building that way to broadcast, and Cole

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ended up becoming best buddies. So there's that, right. Estrata

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tucked in a short punch from a headlock and a

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snap mare and headlock takeover. They talked about how Shaye

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Stadium had closed in two thousand and eight, which is true,

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and this was in fact the final wrestling event at

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Speaker 2: We're watching here. Really yep, that's kind of crazy. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Never came back top preslock. Astrata yanks back to a headlock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, we don't want that shit back here. That's

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about enough of that, Okay, listen You've had your fun games,

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we won't stop hearing speculation as hul Cogan becomes the

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big star in the business that it's all all roads

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lead to Shay once again.

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Speaker 7: Oh wow, to.

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Speaker 1: Some of the stuff I know is coming that I

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don't think people have really appreciated being reported at the time,

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as Hulk began his run about whether another Shade Stadium

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show would in fact happen, it's in paramedics on the

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on the floor watching absolutely entranced, like is this fake?

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Speaker 2: That's that is the thing, isn't it. You look at

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these people who are watching at ringside, who are like

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clearly not employees, and they're like, what is this? Is it?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 2: Are we supposed to believe this is legitimate? Is it

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is it legitimate? Where are we at here? You just

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can't help but read that in their face. Absolutely, they're

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just they're they're you know, they're they're not afraid, like

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they're just almost dumbfounded.

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Speaker 1: It looks like yep, top rislock. Strada pulls him into

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a side headlock push off tackle, down goes Angel Morvilla

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comes over in a big dropkick by Melvilla. Yes, those

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ropes were wobbling after these. That is rough.

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Speaker 2: It is going up and down.

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Speaker 2: I noticed this especially for this one, but also around

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the whole show, but for this match specifically. He is

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talking about everything he can besides what's going on in

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the ring. Yeah, totally. He is avoiding you know they

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there actually is. There seems to be a lot of

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disdain from him for to actually call what he's seeing like.

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it's almost like not up to par with what was

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going on in present day, that's what it almost feels like.

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I could be wrong. I think he has he's a

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fan though he isn't he a longtime fan or no,

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I don't know. I think he did, you know, look

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in every now and then un wrestling growing up. But

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so yeah, I think he's like, I don't, I don't.

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I don't watch this crap pretty much, not sports entertainment.

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So he's got a little bit of Vince McMahon actually

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in him. He does he does.

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Speaker 1: He definitely watches this as someone who like has been

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trained by Vince to think that this was a generation

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where everything was so hokey and you know, like the

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people were basically like film.

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Speaker 2: This is Hoki right right. The minimalism, the minimalism and

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actual violence is Hoki. And Goofballs fucking flipping flopping over

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the place is fuck.

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Speaker 1: The flipping flopping goofballs wearing like right cartoonish outfits and

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right calling themselves the dragon.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, Tetsum called themselves.

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Speaker 1: They pointed out, which is interesting that this Jose Strata

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we're seeing wrestling is actually the father of the Jezus

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Strata I believe was Jzeus Castillo. Whatever Estrata and Losparique

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is the nineteen ninety seven WWF theques the sun would

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be around, which was hilarious. Is that uh intel Marvi?

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Or is that Richard Pryor side headlock?

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Speaker 2: I did think that Richard Pryor moonlighted as a wrestaurer.

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I was pretty sure about that.

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Speaker 1: But pretty wild as Marvia drop kicks him into Strata,

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turns around and soars like a cross body into the ropes.

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When he takes the bump, some of these. The trajectory

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of some of these bumps that they would take back

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in these days completely defy physics. You know, yes they

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should be knocked backwards, but instead they somehow pirouet and

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take a flat back.

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Speaker 2: Well. I also I also love the ones too, like

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where they get a drop kick and all of a

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sudden they're going front ways over the top rope to

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the floor.

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Speaker 1: You know, Strata gets stride kicked, He turns around with

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his back to the guy who drop kicked him, and

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then jumps into the ropes.

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Speaker 2: And gets drop kicked. Get drop kicked, Okay, gets drop kicked.

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He he does a backflip in the air, lands on

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his feet, runs in the then turns around, runs in

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the opposite direction, ches strass into the ropes, backward rolls,

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and then does a front somersault onto his back and

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it's totally it's totally real.

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Speaker 1: The Strata takes a drop kick to the face, shakes

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his head as if he's wobble. He doesn't even flap back,

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and then runs, jumps through the ropes, hits the grass,

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runs through the infield all the way to the dugout,

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and somersalls.

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Speaker 2: Down into the dugout. To sell it. Tratta takes a

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drug king to the face. Yep, he stands perfectly still.

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Suddenly takes out of his trunks and an umbrella, a

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full sized umbrella. Waddles around like Charlie Chaplin, all right,

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and then opens the umbrella and floats away like Mary Poppins.

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That's a cell job. There's no ceiling on the stadium either,

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so he's really gonna fly, So he's really gutting Mary

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Poppins's magic dust.

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Speaker 1: Jose Estrada takes a drop kick in the face, doesn't bump,

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wobbles back and forth, walks to the referee Dick Whirley yep,

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reaches in Dick Whorley's pocket, pulls out a handgun and

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shoots himself in the head.

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Speaker 2: Jestraa ho's his okay? Lastrata takes a drop kick to

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the face and explodes that' todai won for you? Get

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on at folks. You want to see that like an

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atomic bomb explosion, not even like a body explosion, but

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like an atomic bomb. Like he's like he's laced with

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fucking explosives.

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Speaker 1: Shrapnel flying at the screen, mushroom cloud above Shay, Who

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did this guy have his body the fuck He said

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something about twelve virgins waiting for him and ran right

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into that drop kick.

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Speaker 2: And and uh and Marvia m off something about him

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and Marvia pins the like the blast mark.

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Speaker 1: He survives, He survives a fucking nuclear winter inside Chase Stadium.

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Speaker 2: He survives and goes for the pin and gets the win,

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and they treat it like it was a real win

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of a wrestling match.

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Speaker 1: It's great, Okay. My instinct is go the exact opposite

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and say he takes a drop kick and Vince Senior

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runs out, gets in the ring and shoves him down

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because he didn't bump, just fucking stabs him. Yeah, speaking

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of the brony thing. Yeah, so yeah, that's the kind

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of that's where the mind goes when Estrada takes this

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foolish bump that's got them cracking up and commentary hold

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on the corner of the weapon. A backdrop, pretty bad

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one from ever Yea gets one, Astrata thumbs off the

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coming up off, the matt thumbs him in the eyes,

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and a knee left drops Marvia. Cole says that Hogan

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Andre later tonight the first and what would be classic meetings.

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Speaker 2: Later on here we go, I got that for you.

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We can hear that.

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Speaker 3: One Andre the Giant versus Hulk Hogan, the first and

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what would be classic meetings later on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed exactly the first, but okay, Strata stomping away

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fully says Bruno and Larry's abisco set the standard for

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the protege match and the protege feud in program, which

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he's right about. Yees out of the fireman's carry. Colsy

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security looks like Burl Eyes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, Burl lives. Is there? Someone's

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having a holly jolly Christmas. Hey.

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Speaker 1: The Strata drops Rvia trope first on the top rope

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and is choking Marvia a cross those ropes. Astrata then

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tries to sit on him, but goes flying and bouncing

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up in the air as he misses and sits on

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the ropes instead. Marvia sits on him, Yeah, go ahead,

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and whipping a right hand of the gut, and again

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Estrada sells him right hand to the stomach by flatbacking.

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Speaker 2: There's an exchange here that I had. I don't really

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know what to make of it, but here we're going

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to listen to it.

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Speaker 4: That just shows the difference.

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Speaker 3: It's out from nineteen eighty to the late nineteen nineties

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in the attitude area. You see the bland trunks and

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boots and knee pads worn by these two superstars. But

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Los Pridique was Remember they showed up in their in

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their white suits and they played the Puerto Rican gang faction.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, uh, and I think that was

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somewhat reminiscent of the suit that Edge chose to wear

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his nuptials to Vicky Guerrero.

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Speaker 1: What Vicky Ward especially white suit. Okay, I don't know

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for sure.

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Speaker 2: Remember I remember the nuptials to Vicky Guerrero, I don't

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remember the out the attire and the fact that they're

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fucking mentioning that on of Fun Showdown at Shay is hilarious.

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It's like immortalized on a nineteen eighty show. I mean

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that's like, honestly, that's like us, Yeah, what show, Michael,

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what show was it? We're fucking where where Mick Foley

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compared the Lost Marique's outfit to fucking Edge fo Edge

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Edge's outfit and his nuptials to Vicky Guerrero.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff, It's fucking hilarious. Yeah, he keeps calling everything

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Bland throughout the course of the broadcast as Michael Cole Bland, Bland, Bland, Yes,

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because it's not flippy floppy, uh sports entertainment.

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Speaker 2: It's ground and pound wrestling. It's uh, you know, Bland.

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I guess, I.

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Speaker 1: Guess so yeah, rich whip. Marvia lip frogs over a backdrop,

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a flying moscar style head butt lands and it gets

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the one two three Angel Marvilla defeats Jose Estrada in

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the opening contest of Showdown. At Shay gets his hand

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raised fully goes, darn it, where's the ring announcer?

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Speaker 2: I know that's right they call for They don't know

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where Vince McMann.

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Speaker 4: Is Andre the giant version that one.

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Speaker 6: Someone c Vince Vince ring it out there?

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Speaker 7: Good?

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Speaker 6: But rug it out there? Darn it? Darn it? Where's

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the rugging ounce?

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Speaker 2: That's how vents would sound in their ears.

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Speaker 3: Yep, there he is now, Vince having microphone problems. The

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more things change, the more they stay the same. Frank

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Bullet must have been working at the ringside during this event.

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Speaker 2: They're cracking each other up. Yep.

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Speaker 1: And this is that time when that short lived period

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of time where Mit Fuley was trying out a color

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commentary on SmackDown as well.

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Speaker 2: Thought he was going to try. I don't remember that

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at all, And.

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Speaker 1: He quit because Vince was infuriating him on the headset.

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He couldn't take it anymore, browbeating him and calling him

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an idiot and things like that.

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Speaker 2: So when he fucking bumps to the head you dumb

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son of a bitch, you gotta talk about Listen. You

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want to be in commentary. You need to talk about

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cutting edge, deliverable transparency.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would quit too, talk like talk like from

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the pages of the USA today.

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Speaker 2: You need to say buzzworthy, buzzworthy things, all right, talk

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about bandwidth, talk about onboarding, talk about heavy lifting, all right.

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You gotta get in the weeds. Damn it, Mick. You

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gotta be synergetic and deliverable.

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Speaker 1: I hear you, Vince, But can I save the talk

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about heavy lifting for the whole care match? So, yeah,

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Vince is saying something under the mic, but we can't

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hear him. Thus those comments from Colon Foley. Then we

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jump ahead to Secluna Baron mckel Saluna suddenly in the

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ring and Foley's mid sentence. So I don't know if

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the video I have doesn't have the entirety of the

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broadcast or what but fully makes reference to Secluna setting

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the bar with his Hall of Fame induction. I went

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fucking looking for this shit out Like. He's not saying

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that I did too. He's not saying the speech was great.

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He's saying him being in the Hall of Fame means

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anybody can be in the Hall of Fame. Oh I see,

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I see. Yeah, Okay, that's what I settled on. Because

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there's no video of his speech. There's no way Mick

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would have seen Baron mckel secluna is nineteen ninety six

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Hall of Fame induction speech. I mean maybe he was

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there there, but he was there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. I don't know. It was ninety five.

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He was in the company, she was in the company

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Happen to Survivor series that that that Hall of Fame induction.

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Speaker 1: I wish I knew, man, I wish I knew. But

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that's what I choked it up to. Okay, it wasn't

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ninety five that he got inducted.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember I remember when. I just I just

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was looking for the tapes, and uh, I couldn't, like,

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you know, this was.

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Speaker 6: When.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they fucking ninety six, so I thought

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I had it. I don't think they've ever released that

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00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:33,640
whole Hall of Fame induction ceremony. No, none of the

466
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,279
ones from back then. They've They've like, I don't know

467
00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:39,759
if they even have all of them, right, you know

468
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,519
that've got pieces of them, but I don't know about

469
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:43,079
the whole thing.

470
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: So introducing the principles, Vince wick Mahn says, from the

471
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,839
Isle of Malta barren and they break out a corse

472
00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:52,519
of booze and from metic Italy it's Dominic Danucci.

473
00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:56,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and and and fully comments on the

474
00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:00,640
pop and of Danucci and and talks about it a

475
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,279
little bit here.

476
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:04,839
Speaker 6: Listen to the pot for Dominic Denucci.

477
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,559
Speaker 5: Nice hand for the man who would go on to

478
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,680
train one of the great.

479
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,839
Speaker 6: Superstars in wrestling history, Shane.

480
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:17,839
Speaker 1: Douglas as opposed to him, mckfoley. That was a mister

481
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:21,599
wreck there, Dominic Denocchi, as far as I can tell.

482
00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: But definitely Dominic Deni.

483
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: They call him the most underrated fressman WWF for one

484
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,119
of the just Bruno's buddy, you know, that's how he was.

485
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,559
So they circle and lock up, and they break, and

486
00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:37,799
they lock up over the ropes, and they jostle a

487
00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:41,640
bit in the clinch, and ye, the Baron applies an

488
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,720
arm ringer and flips Dominic Denucci over, who kIPS up,

489
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:49,759
and Baron Secluna rings and flips him again, rings out

490
00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:50,480
the arm.

491
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 2: They go into some fucking incredibly bizarre world history talking

492
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,160
about Malta and Maltids for that matter.

493
00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:06,759
Speaker 5: For Baron Mccalchicluna, for our large Maltese population. Of course,

494
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,759
the isl of Malta, best known as the place where Churchill,

495
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,920
Stalin and.

496
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:14,759
Speaker 6: FDR met to figure out the.

497
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 5: Remains of World War Two in the infamous Malta Conference.

498
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,319
Speaker 3: Well, if you're talking about history, this is nineteen eighty

499
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:21,799
when this showdown at Shay took place.

500
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 6: It was actually the start of the Iran Iraq War.

501
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 3: How things have changed over the past twenty five years.

502
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, and not to mention the fact that Rhodesia gained independence,

503
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,240
became Zimbabwe and Robert Mugabi was a national hero.

504
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 6: So things really haven't changed there.

505
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,079
Speaker 4: In twenty eight You're like a walking Google.

506
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,519
Speaker 6: I know that I know my African culture.

507
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,599
Speaker 2: It's like I love it. I love to me, the

508
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:50,359
best part is when they go, of course, you know, like,

509
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,599
of course we all know that this was the Isle

510
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,880
of Malta is where this happened. Of course, yes, I know,

511
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:57,359
I do.

512
00:27:57,519 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 1: Like they had already spent time beating the druma of like, hey,

513
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,319
back then they would appeal to the Puerto Ricans and

514
00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:06,359
and the Polish and the and the Italians and that,

515
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:17,680
and then would draw the Maltese fans like that's and

516
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,519
he said in a straight face, like that's a big

517
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:20,559
demographic of New.

518
00:28:20,519 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: York exactly, exactly hilarious.

519
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,559
Speaker 1: He might be one of the best athletes from Malta.

520
00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:29,960
There's a couple of footballers, a couple of guys.

521
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: All four uh Maltese civilians from New York City. Fucking

522
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:41,039
would go, I gotta go see bear Sha because that's yeah,

523
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:46,519
that that the accent out there that's going.

524
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: Isn't there a guy on the Atlanta football team that

525
00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:55,759
played for them from there, the Maltese Falcon. I think

526
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,240
so Baron slugs away Dominic KNUTI get hung up on

527
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:01,480
the rope.

528
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: Hey, maybe there's you know, you know, uh, Humphrey Bogart

529
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,799
was in the Maltese Falcon and he also was in

530
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:10,799
a movie about wrestling, So there we go. Never need

531
00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:16,200
a connection. Aaron Michael Seicluna, Okay, the Maltese, the Maltese falcon.

532
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,559
Speaker 1: Consider his face for just a second, his nose looking

533
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,359
like the count, looking like the count from Sesame Street.

534
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,279
Speaker 2: He really does what a fucking like? These these two,

535
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,160
these two clowns. Okay, these clowns, these both the Danutche

536
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:40,440
and Secluna. It's like they look like, you know, like

537
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,279
math tutors at a at a fucking boarding school. Okay,

538
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,640
like the kind of the kind of boarding school that

539
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,079
that that Paul Jimmatti teaches at. In The Holdovers, Okay,

540
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,559
that's what it fucking looks like. Did you ever see

541
00:29:55,559 --> 00:29:58,880
The Holdovers? I don't think so. You should watch The Holdovers.

542
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,599
It is an inspired Paul Jimmonti performance, and he does

543
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:09,759
this thing with his eye that is un believable. Okay,

544
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,880
it is unbelievable.

545
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:15,119
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, that Dom's the Nucci prefers to tuck into Rigatoni

546
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:21,960
at Giamonds. I think is at Hoboken. I'm not sure.

547
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:24,559
Speaker 2: I did see a plastic bag on the ringside during

548
00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:29,799
this match. He got takeout for the match so we

549
00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:33,240
could have it in the locker room. There was a

550
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:35,519
chicken yeah, I think there was a chicken parm with

551
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:38,720
with linguina there and tin you know, one of those

552
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:39,920
tin containers.

553
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: If you want to know where the best chicken parm is,

554
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,839
you ask Dominic Tinucci.

555
00:30:43,079 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: That's simple, exactly. This guy say you come over to

556
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,039
my house. Oh my god, chicken parm.

557
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: Some athletes cut weight. This guy cutlets weight. Okay.

558
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: Oh, some guys rob banks. This guy robs the broccoli. Listen.

559
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:16,680
It's always a sausage fest at the house. Okay, Oh

560
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:22,599
my god. Okay. You know, some wrestlers like to meet

561
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,759
the fans now much she likes to meet the balls

562
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,160
and the sauce. I'm the gravy.

563
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: We know exactly exactly what his kitchen smells like on Sunday.

564
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:38,079
Speaker 2: Oh my god, listens, he smells exactly like my grandmother's

565
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:44,359
house used to smell, like always like meat and garlic. Okay, great,

566
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:47,119
and it's glorious. And I would not and I just

567
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,799
sit there and drool, all right, and drool like you know,

568
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:55,960
I imagine living. You know, he's got to live in

569
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,400
some kind of you know, apartment building, and just like

570
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,720
you just reeks of food all the time.

571
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:04,039
Speaker 1: He lives on a single level, you know, like the

572
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:05,720
King of Queen's house or something one of those.

573
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well either way, listen, they're all fucking

574
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:12,480
the row house anyway, so they all share walls. So

575
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:17,160
there's all food everywhere, exactly, all food all the time. Okay,

576
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,799
while so Cluna trying to open up his own his

577
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:27,680
Maltese restaurant with no success that everyone thinks, he is saying,

578
00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:29,799
everyone thinks he's going to open a malted shop, and

579
00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:33,319
he's like no, no, no, no, no Maltese. Oh my god.

580
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: Okay, now get like a Baltese dishes North African, Mediterranean influence.

581
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:42,480
So there's tough the neck of course.

582
00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: Which wrestler is that it's on the show.

583
00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: A rabbit slow cooked and wine and garlic. There we go,

584
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:50,000
all right, okay, so the rabbit is the big thing

585
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:56,960
out there. Rabbit great, all right, So Baron game slugging

586
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,720
away the nucies hung up on the ropes and Baron

587
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,200
stomping away till Dnucci grips the ropes and squirms around,

588
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:07,119
and that causes Baron Secluna to ram Dominic Danuccian too

589
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,839
buckling over on the ring. Apron tries to get back

590
00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:12,400
in the ring and gets stomped. Corner to corner, Danucci

591
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:15,240
hits the buckling, but then comes back and slugs the

592
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,640
gut of Seclunah.

593
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: They cut.

594
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:21,279
Speaker 1: To something about Mick was going to say about Baron

595
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:23,240
having a big influence on his career, and then it

596
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:23,839
goes silent.

597
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:24,359
Speaker 2: I don't know.

598
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: It seems like they cut something out of mixed commentary

599
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,559
track about what.

600
00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: He was about to say. I'm not talking about anymore.

601
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,279
Speaker 1: As Danucci wishbones the legs of Baron mckel's Cicluna and

602
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:37,200
stomps him to the Apron to get some separation. Danucci

603
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,920
then grabs a side headlock. There's a short tight push

604
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,839
off and a tackle and he charges into a hip

605
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,200
toss and there it is the feet job, the double

606
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:48,400
kick off of his back. Danucci then with a couple

607
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,279
of Mongolian chops and floors Secluna with a right hand

608
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:54,240
that gets two. Baron starts fishing in his trunks but

609
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,680
there's nothing there and McK foley puts over, puts over

610
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,400
how hilariously unsecretive Secluna is just blatantly digging in his

611
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,400
trunks in front of the referee. Finally he gets something

612
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,800
and slugs the back of Danucci's head with it, and

613
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,679
he's choking and punching fully reaches. He reaches for saco,

614
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,440
much like Secluna used to reach for his hidden gimmicks,

615
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,920
so apparently some legit inspiration there. There we go, but

616
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,960
Danuci build builds back up like his like his daddy Bruno,

617
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,519
and starts going off. They get a great close shot

618
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:34,199
of mcluna Secluna's dumb face, and they lose their minds

619
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,199
on this because as he gets donked on the head

620
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,679
Baron mckel Sicluna is making basically three stooges like comedic faces.

621
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:47,519
His eyes are like bugging out opened and fully absolutely

622
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:50,800
loses his mind. As there's a head butt and uh

623
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,719
he falls to the canvas. Danucci gets a two count

624
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,239
and then Baron goes to a full nelson. Danucci kind

625
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,920
of bends over so that Baron has to kind of

626
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:05,360
his back and then runs into the corner. Guess free

627
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,800
stomps the head. Seclutin starts hauling off, whipping a backdrop,

628
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,199
and Dominic Danucci with the worst sunset flip you've ever seen.

629
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,760
The worst sunset flipp honestly, it's it's embarrassing. What's embarrassed

630
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,039
thinking here? But when you do a sunset flip, of

631
00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:21,039
course you flip and land on your on your butt

632
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:23,639
and you're seated and your legs are on the shoulders

633
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:26,000
and you're holding the guy down. This one he jumps

634
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,639
over and instead of landing seated, he just lays flat.

635
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,320
He lays souphine on the mask. He's a fucking idiot.

636
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,679
Speaker 2: It just puts his feet over Secluna's shoulders and like

637
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,280
it's like flat, right, because because that's like, I mean,

638
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,320
I don't know, I don't know what to say. I

639
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,519
don't know what to say about it. Is he not

640
00:35:41,599 --> 00:35:44,880
being picked? Right? Who is getting that's the question? Who's

641
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,239
getting pinned? Look the viewers, the audience. Yeah.

642
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: In six minutes, thirty nine seconds, that's the one two three.

643
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,199
By the way, Dominic Danucci defeats Baron mckel's Secluna here

644
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,559
in Shay Stadium, and the crowd rejoices. The baron pretends

645
00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,679
he's going to hit Dominic Danucci after the bell and

646
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,480
then just exits. You could tell he's just not feeling

647
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,039
doing a seconds more of physical labor than He's just done.

648
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,519
Speaker 2: He is, that's it, he's done over it.

649
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 1: Out in the field, they're popping off of the mouth

650
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,679
at each other and Baron mckilscluna is clearly smirking. Dominic

651
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:18,519
Denucci is clearly smirking. They're having fun out there, and

652
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:22,360
Michael Cole calls out people. He say, look like Buddy

653
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,199
Harrelson and Pete Rose. Cole's full of you talk about

654
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:28,840
like us. Cole is full of those on this thing, yes,

655
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,000
saying people look like others.

656
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh my god. It's it's really tremendous movie references.

657
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,039
Speaker 1: It's so we get a wide shot from center field

658
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:39,960
at Shay Stadium now for the Junior World Wrestling Federation Championship.

659
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:45,639
Speaker 2: Man hilarious seeing nobody, nobody, nobody. It's like, it's just

660
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,800
it's almos. It's almost embarrassing. Yeah, but it's not flattering.

661
00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:54,320
But yeah, they call it, for some reason, the Junior

662
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,000
World Wrestling Federation Championship instead of the WWF Junior Heavyweight Championship.

663
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:00,199
When you put junior at the very front of it, me,

664
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,280
it just really to being stupid. I mean that's what

665
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,679
it was like. A junior cheeseburger to.

666
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: Let it sounds like it's children about to wrestle right

667
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,440
from Mexico City. Of course, it's Chavo Guerrero, who, despite

668
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,440
being a veteran of American wrestling territories and being Mexican

669
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,840
of course and a member of the famed Grow wrestling family,

670
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,079
actually is on this card as a new japan Pro

671
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:23,559
wrestling star as Wild Yeah, one of their junior heavyweight

672
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:26,400
attraction at the time, constantly wrestling Tatsumi Fujinami and some

673
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,840
of the other juniors they had, and we talked about

674
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,159
how he crossed pollinated with Hulk and a lot of

675
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:33,400
the Florida boys when they went over there in nineteen eighty.

676
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:37,159
Speaker 2: How do they determine junior heavyweight?

677
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 6: What is it? Like?

678
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: I understand, I understand that that's how they do that.

679
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,159
The term junior heavyweight, I mean, it makes it sound

680
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:52,079
like you should be a kid who's like a heavyweight wrestler,

681
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,280
not a lightweight wrestler. I agree, you know what I mean? Yeah,

682
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:56,599
like he was.

683
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:59,199
Speaker 1: Hulk was a junior heavyweight when he was the Big

684
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,199
Fat Kennon's Little League team exactly.

685
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:01,679
Speaker 6: Yeah.

686
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know where that comes from.

687
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:05,880
It's so they don't want to, uh, they don't want

688
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,039
to create a new term for the weight class right

689
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:09,960
below heavyweight. They just want to call it like a

690
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,079
subset of heavyweight for some reason. I don't know why,

691
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:15,400
but you know they'd rename it cruiser weight and other

692
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,360
things light heavyweight. Do you prefer light heavyweight to junior Yes,

693
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:20,880
I do, I absolutely do. I think that's much better.

694
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: I absolutely do. Cruiser weight's the best light heavyweight is better.

695
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:27,800
Junior heavyweight is bogus.

696
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: So there's Chavo. Always nice to hear Vince McMahon pronounced

697
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,519
tatsu Fujinami and say he does it wrong or anything.

698
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:34,159
It's just funny.

699
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: Yes, so this is uh, this is Vince on the call,

700
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:40,000
and yeah, it's fucking weird.

701
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 6: Man.

702
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 2: It's weird to have him do ring announcing and beyond

703
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,159
the call?

704
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:44,559
Speaker 6: Right?

705
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 2: Was this one a mystery to you as far as

706
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,519
what this was? What do you mean, like.

707
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: Why he's announcing this one match and not the bigger

708
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,320
matches Vince as a commentator.

709
00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: No, this came from This came from a tape I think,

710
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,559
did not.

711
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:07,039
Speaker 1: This came from September twenty second, nineteen eighty Okay, there's

712
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,920
a show at the Garden headlined by Bob Backlan versus

713
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,800
Harley Race. And for some reason reasons I could try

714
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,880
to speculate on, they did not show the Harley Race

715
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,679
Bob Backland match on MSG cable. They showed the rest

716
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:24,280
of the Garden card, but when it came time for

717
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:29,360
that match, they transitioned to matches on tape from Shay

718
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:35,079
Stadium a month before, including this match between Tatsumi Fujinami

719
00:39:35,079 --> 00:39:39,960
and Chavo Guerrero. Now for the Madison Square Garden broadcast,

720
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,360
Vince McMahon and cal Rudman are in the chairs in

721
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,800
the Garden calling the matches. When it comes time to

722
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,719
have Backland Race, which they do not show and they

723
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,960
show the Shay tape, Vince and Cal just call the

724
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,639
Shay tape live. So that's why when you listen closely

725
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,119
and you hear Vincent cal Rudman doing the announcing, you

726
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:02,719
hear Howard Finkel introduced Harley Race in the back Yes

727
00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:06,079
I did it, yes, very faintly or like what the fuck?

728
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,679
It seems like like they dubbed over an old tape.

729
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:10,719
And you know how sometimes the old audio bleeds the right.

730
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking.

731
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: I remember, Yes, In fact, it was just the atmospherics

732
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,119
in the building where Vince and cal Rudman were sitting

733
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:21,599
providing in fact live commentary for this match.

734
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: Wow.

735
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,599
Speaker 1: And another one on the card as well. I forget

736
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:26,440
which one, but we'll talk about it. It's the women's match.

737
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:29,400
The women's match, Okay, thank you. So this was a

738
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:32,800
very strange circumstance. I can only assume, and I couldn't

739
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,440
find any reason that Race or Backland never said for this.

740
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:39,039
I can only assume that, you know, part of the

741
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:41,639
arrangement of having the NWA champion, Harley Race, come through

742
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:43,880
New York and work their television and try to draw

743
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,599
a house at the Garden against Backland, which they did,

744
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:48,880
they did a good house, was that, you know, the

745
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,440
match finished not be shown in the market, so that

746
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:55,880
Harley doesn't come off as somehow less marketable as NBA champion.

747
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: If one of people who always draws, aren't always these

748
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,559
champion versus champion matches draws and they drop people to

749
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:06,719
the no, I mean, I mean they're the matches draws. Yeah.

750
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,119
Speaker 1: In this case, because I know this because there was

751
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:12,960
a fan there with an eight millimeter camera, and it's

752
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,519
out there. You can find it, just you know, like

753
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:17,119
we've seen so many times, just a bunch of clips

754
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:20,280
of these two wrestling. Look like a really strong, scientific

755
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,440
hold for hold battle. It looked like a good match.

756
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,920
And at the end, Backland has Harley locked in a

757
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,679
sleeper hold and Harley's fililling his arms about wildly and

758
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,159
one of those flailing arms strikes the referee in the face.

759
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,800
Referee just qualifies Harley Race accuses him of doing it

760
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,840
on purpose. Race absolutely disputes that and says he did

761
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,920
not do it on purpose. So they get out of

762
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,239
the match without you know, having the ww after the

763
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,679
NBA champion win the match, and I can just imagine

764
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,239
from there that they also worked out a deal where,

765
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,480
you know, it wouldn't be on television so that the

766
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:56,559
New York fans didn't have to see the NBA Champions

767
00:41:56,599 --> 00:42:00,239
squirming out of an opportunity, but they didn't has to

768
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,880
show Harley Ray squashing Jabroni's and calling out Bob Becklan

769
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,840
like a madman on WWF television. There's some really fiery

770
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,119
promos out there. In fact, I'm gonna try to find

771
00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:11,519
one while we're parked here. If you go to your

772
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:15,000
nineteen eighty folder, we do have a pretty good one

773
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,719
from Harley where he's head on trying to sell tickets

774
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,760
to this match with Backland, but you don't get to

775
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,559
see it in the local market on television. He's just

776
00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:27,800
trying to move tickets apparently.

777
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

778
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: So interestingly enough, if you go to nineteen eighty eight

779
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:35,320
Dash O nine, which was the day of the Shae

780
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:42,559
Stadium show, there was a traditional WWF card on television

781
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:44,800
that day. It was Championship Wrestling. It happened to be

782
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,960
a weekend right Saturday, but this was tape July twenty ninth,

783
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,559
but it airs the day of Shaye Stadium. So while

784
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:53,760
this huge stuff is happening and flushing on TV, they're

785
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,679
seeing this. This is Harley wrestling for the WWF. It

786
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,280
never gets old seeing this. If you have a apple

787
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,199
hit play hold on one thing not coming? Come on,

788
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:13,199
let's go okay, all right?

789
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: Three two?

790
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:14,199
Speaker 5: One?

791
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:22,639
Speaker 8: Play got The next concourse is because up the one ball.

792
00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:23,119
Speaker 2: Look at him.

793
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 6: Ten minute time limit.

794
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Hardly in a WWY in to watch.

795
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,519
Speaker 2: The whole thing. Let's just fast forward to uh.

796
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,639
Speaker 4: Three, Well that's not lady.

797
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:40,119
Speaker 1: After Hartley gets the win with a sooe play and

798
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:42,800
the usual moves he does. He joins Vince with his

799
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,519
n w A championship in tow. This is just surreal

800
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,000
to see the NBA champion holding the belt with Vince

801
00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:52,159
mcpannon junior on WWF television. If you're at three forty

802
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:56,159
five or forty seven, actually okay, go for it three

803
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:56,920
two one.

804
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: Play, Hey, gentlemen.

805
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 6: The nw A was.

806
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: Harley did unpromoted the latch thing. I'm just talking about

807
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:02,599
with the.

808
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,599
Speaker 5: Jesus, I'm gonna say something to you have been here,

809
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:07,920
and let me say it also to every one of

810
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,960
these people and anyone listening.

811
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 9: I am never then I may never they number one

812
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:17,679
contender to know human being.

813
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 7: I am worlds anyway champion. Wow.

814
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 6: If I'm gonna stand here and.

815
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,679
Speaker 2: Be insulid by you or anyone else. Kylin made not

816
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,679
for white contender back by there.

817
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: For white reason, white racing only, then that stuff true.

818
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,840
Who the better man is?

819
00:44:38,599 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 3: Then I cam well no never line good gettingers copy.

820
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,159
Speaker 4: Man who has point hard that is not a number

821
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,840
one contender.

822
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,039
Speaker 8: Then for a lot matter, certainly Bob Beckham is no

823
00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:56,119
number one contender.

824
00:44:56,639 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 4: Both champions both extraordinarily gifted in terms of their wrestling.

825
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 8: Still Harley Race will a challenge last week, bought back

826
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,119
when you heard what he said this week, You'll take

827
00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:08,960
on anybody at any time as designated by the World

828
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,599
Wrestling Federation Commission.

829
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:15,639
Speaker 2: The Commission. Okay, that's right, the Commission. I mean, seeing

830
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,559
Matt Belt on Dodby television is just bizarre.

831
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: You don't hear that. You're just led to believe that

832
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,440
they were always at a distance, you know, yep, or

833
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:28,239
you know, if maybe Vince co operates, he sends Andre

834
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,840
you know, but not that would feature another world champion

835
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:34,599
like that on their television show and call him out

836
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:35,000
as such.

837
00:45:35,079 --> 00:45:36,559
Speaker 2: But that's what I mean. What could you do when

838
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:38,960
you have ned Beatia as the champion? It's true.

839
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So next up Fujinami Guerrero. He was tested, no

840
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,800
doubt against Chavo, We're told Fujinami.

841
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:48,519
Speaker 7: Uh.

842
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 1: Cal Rudman, of course, on the commentary says that this

843
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,039
is the first appearance in the New York area for

844
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:57,920
Tatsumi Fujinami nineteen eighty. I could believe that, And yeah,

845
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,199
the New Japan, We've got a good flavor of it.

846
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:02,760
When we visited Japan for the Hogan series, yeah, and

847
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,960
Fujinami you can tell along with the Nooki and saichisaka Gucci.

848
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:10,800
We're definitely being presented as you know, the big stars,

849
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,519
the big centers of gravity.

850
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: What a bell dinging. I know, it's insane.

851
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:21,599
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen introduced to the corner of my left

852
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:26,960
and this is uh Vince McMahon again. You can hear

853
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,159
Howard Finkle in the background. Is very disorienting because you're

854
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:32,639
hearing Vince on commentary, Vince in the ring announcing, and

855
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:34,079
Howard Finkel in the ring announcing.

856
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: I was one to say, you know again, I was

857
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,880
wondering what the fuck was going on because it was

858
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:44,079
so confusing. Absolutely, and I mean even though you've explained it,

859
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:45,400
it's still like, what the fuck?

860
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, it's a lot. It is a lot

861
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,599
lock up travel with an arm drag and fujinami, kIPS up,

862
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:55,800
controlling front facelock and hiptoss by the dragon. As Vince says,

863
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,760
who's on commentary now, Uh, the amateur wrestler out there

864
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,039
trying to figure out what he can learn from this match. Uh,

865
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,480
the average amage wrestler out there will learn a lots

866
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,280
from from how this is playing out. You can even

867
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,360
hear Howard Finkle say the National Wrestling Alliance.

868
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: It's weird.

869
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, cal Rudman asks how how well, Vince?

870
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: How Yeah, I got this for you.

871
00:47:18,679 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 9: How well would the intercollegiate champion do against either one

872
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,880
of these guys?

873
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 8: Well, if if, now, if they were rustling on intercollegiate rules,

874
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,880
it's that I've got chance.

875
00:47:29,559 --> 00:47:31,599
Speaker 4: But it acquires many of the differences.

876
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:34,039
Speaker 8: Being a sufficient holes and the angle of what you've

877
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:37,000
got my holes to the extent of which the angle.

878
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,920
There's just so many different things, and in pro wrestling.

879
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:41,639
Speaker 6: It's it's pains.

880
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,159
Speaker 8: It's just a difference them all together.

881
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:47,599
Speaker 1: Really, I'm very glad you played that because not only

882
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:50,239
does it give us classic Vince and classic cal Rudmand.

883
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 2: But you can hear fing in the background too.

884
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's bell ringing, and it's like Fujinami and Chavo.

885
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,880
There's no reason for the bell to be ringing. But yeah,

886
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,039
that's a great point by Vince.

887
00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 2: You know, I mean what I love is it's like

888
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,320
it's a classic Vince answer to a question like he

889
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:13,159
was not prepared to be asked. Well, well, you know,

890
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:17,920
it comes toutely the intercollegiate athleticism. There is a difference

891
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,320
in regards to the certain bases that they were allowed

892
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,039
to participate, in regards to submissions and and things of

893
00:48:27,039 --> 00:48:31,559
that nature, and also in regards to how holds are

894
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:35,320
applied and how they are unapplied. And we go from

895
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,360
there onto the next match. Clearly we do.

896
00:48:39,039 --> 00:48:42,559
Speaker 1: Clearly, as Fujinami's working a leg a grape plane on

897
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:44,440
the canvas and shifts to a chin lock, there's a

898
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,679
set out by Chavo Guerrero as he gets the waist

899
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,360
and they're exchanging holds here boss, this is about there,

900
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,320
you know, showing people that when junior heavyweights get on

901
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,440
the mat, it's about quick exchanges of position.

902
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: Yep.

903
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: And we see paramedics with their arms folded, okay, riveted

904
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:00,280
by the.

905
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: Action, yes, indeed, they're just they're just they're like, aha,

906
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,800
here we go, nothing to do here? Really, you know,

907
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,920
it's a manic because this is all fake. So what's

908
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,280
the point.

909
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: Javo Guerrero down on a leg lace, starts wrenching out

910
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,639
on the leg. Tight shot of Fujinami selling on his back.

911
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,079
So they do have some close up cameras, but they

912
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:22,400
just don't. They don't use them that frequently. Chavo Guerrero

913
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,840
sits on the knee and Fujinami spins right up, limping

914
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,719
and selling as Cal Rudman says he's got that right

915
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,000
leg in trouble does Chavo Guerrero lock up Fujinami with

916
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,000
a sideheadlock and starts cranking as Vince says Fujinami has

917
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,880
been emulating the style of Antonio and Oki. Yes, Rudman says,

918
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,039
how much of a champion he is in Japan? The

919
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:47,679
martial arts champion? Cal asks, is Bob Beckland? Vin's going

920
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,760
to get a chance to fight Antonio's laughs and says

921
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,920
yes they have met as in.

922
00:49:55,039 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: Victorious and various incantations of the of the said program.

923
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: I mean no mention of the fact that in Nook

924
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,920
he fucking won the belt from Bob Backland in Japan.

925
00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 2: But we don't know. Oh, you know, these are things

926
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:15,840
that neither happened nor did they not happen. That's a

927
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,440
good one, That's a really good one.

928
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: Cal would accept that answer. He would take over by Fujinami.

929
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:30,000
I'm sorry. Cal Redman is the male Mama sorrow The

930
00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:33,239
things he says, the things he chooses to focus on.

931
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,119
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, he is back up.

932
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: Push off Fujinami tackles again under leap frog, Fujinami with

933
00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:42,360
leap frog as well. In both men exchange some flying

934
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,280
ankle scissors back to back, thinking the exact same moves

935
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,039
at the exact same time. You can hear the noise

936
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:49,079
of the mat from backland and race.

937
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 2: I know it's it's so weird.

938
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: It's orienting. Tie up Fujinami with an arm drag to

939
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,239
an arm bar. But Guerrero stands up and backs into

940
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,119
the ropes throws a chop. Vince says, Guerrero can get

941
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:04,119
a little rougher than Fujinami can in there. Mmm, it's

942
00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:06,400
the ropes Fujinami with a tackle over the top, cross

943
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:07,400
body by Fujinami.

944
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: It's one two. They both get back up quick to

945
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:13,960
the knuckle loocky. Cal compares wrestling with other sports and

946
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:21,519
art forms. Where is it?

947
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 9: It's like a fencing match right here? Does a lot

948
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,159
of ballet.

949
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,639
Speaker 2: Dancing into it?

950
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 7: It's similar?

951
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: It's similar, Yeah, it is, Cal, It's a lot of

952
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,239
It's very similar to ballet l.

953
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:43,519
Speaker 2: A dancing into it. Similar? Who gave this guy a microphone?

954
00:51:44,119 --> 00:51:48,000
What the honesty? He's he's he's like, what's his button,

955
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:51,440
King of Thereen ninety four? Yeah, exactly. Gar Donovan like.

956
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,679
Speaker 1: Why why why would you give this guy a microphone?

957
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:56,039
Remember we were cracking the code. He had some like

958
00:51:56,079 --> 00:52:00,000
background in music, and he like published some really important

959
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,199
newsletter in the business or something, and we were all

960
00:52:02,199 --> 00:52:04,440
confused because we thought one time they were giving Vince

961
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,960
credit for that and one of those spect So apparently

962
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,519
he was some kind of connection to the white world.

963
00:52:09,559 --> 00:52:13,880
So he gets h free will, free, free rain to

964
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,280
go on these broadcasts and just basically ye say in

965
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,880
nane wrestlers.

966
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: Ye ruin it all.

967
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: Apparently, apparently, Chavo to the arm ringer. He steps over

968
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,280
the arm and leaps up to an arm drag and

969
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,480
cal somehow likens it to the fencing match you just mentioned.

970
00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:32,639
Speaker 2: To the corner.

971
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: Fujinami slugs away snap mare and a dropkick. Chavo Guerrero

972
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,760
hits the floor. I welcome you to a nineteen eighty

973
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:43,920
in which Fujinami is suicide diving in New York for

974
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:44,599
the business.

975
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: And that is that is where that is, that's that's

976
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:48,960
Reality's reality is.

977
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: He hits the grass, then says he kind of shoulder

978
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,800
blocked Guerrero. That's what he calls it, a flying shoulder block. Yep,

979
00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:58,400
climbs those blue wooden steps back into the ring, but

980
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,880
Chavo Guero gets right back in and Al immediately picks

981
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,719
up that. You know what, Sumi Fujinami didn't get much

982
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,119
reward or advantage for taking such a big risk there,

983
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,159
as Guerrero's back all over him and throws Fujinami out

984
00:53:09,159 --> 00:53:11,840
of the ring and does the almost like the the

985
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,920
six to one nine spin, but he stops halfway. Yes, yes,

986
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,480
like a spider in the ropes, and cal goes now, awe,

987
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:21,920
he likes that one. New York cops. New York cops

988
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,800
now showing up everywhere. Yeah, uniformed officers in view.

989
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 6: See we got to going.

990
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: On there, right, we'll get wrestling.

991
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

992
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: I used to watch himself as a kid. You know

993
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,119
it was real back then, right, I like this phoniness.

994
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,360
It's not real anymore?

995
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,039
Speaker 1: Back in then double knucklelock. As Chavo goes to the

996
00:53:41,079 --> 00:53:43,239
drop toe hold in Great Minds the leg of Fujinami,

997
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,280
Vince says, if you miss it in terms of execution,

998
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,639
you're in bad shape on the canvas with the shoulders there.

999
00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:51,760
If you miss it in terms of execution.

1000
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:54,079
Speaker 2: If you miss it in terms of execute, yes, I've

1001
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:54,719
always wondered.

1002
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,199
Speaker 1: Cal Rudman then says, that looks like real pain, and

1003
00:53:57,199 --> 00:53:59,159
I'm thinking to myself as opposed to wild Cal.

1004
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:03,119
Speaker 2: Cal then nothing real about this, okay.

1005
00:54:03,159 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: With a surfboard, yanking back with his boot between the

1006
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,719
shoulder blades of Fujinami, Fujinami on his knees, suffering, Cal

1007
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,920
says that that makes Fujinami a candidate for orthopedic surgery,

1008
00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:17,800
and Vince says, earlier at MSG, it's amazing how those

1009
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,440
in the medical profession are amazed at the awesome punishment

1010
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,280
that rostlers can take and keep coming right back at you,

1011
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:28,039
and Cal says, well, they do pay for it later

1012
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:34,679
in life, and that's when the surgeons come around to

1013
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,320
see him, and Vince is just like, okay, well thanks,

1014
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,840
too much of a glimpse on the curtain there, but fine. Exactly,

1015
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,559
it's fascinating to see Vince be put in a position

1016
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:48,360
where he's forced to let this cal Rudman say whatever

1017
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,239
he wants all over the broadcast.

1018
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:53,159
Speaker 2: That's when that's what happens. When Daddy's still in control.

1019
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: Vince just has to nod along. Dorero's working the hammer

1020
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,960
lock on the canvas with elbows kneedrops to the arm

1021
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,519
the headstand with the delay for some extra leverage. You

1022
00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:03,119
know how that works. You stand on your head with

1023
00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:04,679
a dammer lock as well.

1024
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,199
Speaker 2: R the arm off. That's funny.

1025
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: When guys stand at certain positions in the grass, it

1026
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,760
looks like they're like actually hovering over the top rope

1027
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,400
because they're far enough back that you can't tell that

1028
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,079
they're not right in the ringside. There are a lot

1029
00:55:18,119 --> 00:55:20,719
of distractions here when you're trying to watch the match.

1030
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:23,519
Speaker 2: Oh, for sure, it's it's a mess. It's a giant

1031
00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:24,199
fucking mess.

1032
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,519
Speaker 1: Stand up Guerrero with a Kimora lock and Fujinami goes

1033
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:30,880
back to the ropes to get the break. You can

1034
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,559
tell these guys are sweltering. I mean, I was looking

1035
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:37,039
it up. Temperatures were in the nineties that evening.

1036
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 2: Oh it's gotta be rough. Yeah, it can't be fun.

1037
00:55:41,039 --> 00:55:43,559
Speaker 1: Vince calls Kuerro one of the finest gentlemen you'll meet,

1038
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:45,760
which is so funny because he got fired and like,

1039
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,400
oh wait for being a drunk and a complete bad guy.

1040
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,920
To the corner Guerrero with the European uppercuts in Fujinami

1041
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,360
answers sending Guerrero to the opposite corner. Irish whipped to

1042
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,320
that corner as a matter of fact. Chavo then turns

1043
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,559
and corner mounts Fujinami and then goes up to the

1044
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:01,400
top rope as he used to do, and does a

1045
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,199
straight moon salt off the top rope does Guerrero lands

1046
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:07,719
on his feet and as he does, Fujinami charges into

1047
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,840
a backdrop forty. He charges into a backdrop for two.

1048
00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:15,440
Vince calls him out for a sloppy cover and showboating tactics,

1049
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,119
so he's not really a fan of the moon salt,

1050
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:19,280
even though not at all. Put Java one position, hit

1051
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,559
the moot the backdrop, there's a snap mare and a

1052
00:56:21,639 --> 00:56:24,559
knee to the back. Garrow then triangles the neck and

1053
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:27,760
cal thinks the pain centers around the ears, So it

1054
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,119
makes sense that to him at least, that Gerro's attacking

1055
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,960
Fujinami as he is, and Vince says it's not a

1056
00:56:33,039 --> 00:56:36,519
very effective hold, so he's decided to turn on this match.

1057
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: Vince, things are not effective in the regards of this

1058
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,440
particular match. Endeavor this particular match end devort right exactly

1059
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:49,599
lock up side headlocked by Guerrero, push off tackle. Fujinami

1060
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:51,960
catches him coming in with a fireman's carrying an airplane spin.

1061
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:53,960
He dumps him down and he gets all dizzy, and

1062
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,039
the crowd reacts to that. Both go for seat to

1063
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:58,159
drop kicks at the very same time, both A flying

1064
00:56:58,159 --> 00:57:00,599
in midair and Shay Yeah crash to the canvas. The

1065
00:57:00,599 --> 00:57:03,199
crowd loves that. Cal says it's like in boxing, more

1066
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,400
damage is done when you miss a punch than landing it.

1067
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,199
I repeat, he says, it's like in boxing, more damage

1068
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,000
is done when you miss a punch than landing it.

1069
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:16,679
He said that guerreral with an What's wrong with that?

1070
00:57:18,199 --> 00:57:19,679
Speaker 1: I sat there and I was like, what is he

1071
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:20,440
trying to say?

1072
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: He's saying exactly what you think he's saying. What's wrong

1073
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:25,960
with that?

1074
00:57:26,599 --> 00:57:28,559
Speaker 1: I know what he's saying, flying reverse asd attack from

1075
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:31,800
no mid What is he saying? What does you mean

1076
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,920
when he says more damage is done when you miss

1077
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,320
a punch than when you land it.

1078
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 2: I can tell you.

1079
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,079
Speaker 7: Wrestling podcast.

1080
00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 10: He's the Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast with Jack and s

1081
00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:19,960
MJP Soro.

1082
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: It's private okay, Bobby, great answer, by the way, about

1083
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:30,559
the only acceptable did you see Java grow do the

1084
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:32,559
ass attack? You can do a no Mercy by holding

1085
00:58:32,599 --> 00:58:33,360
down on a whip.

1086
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: That's right.

1087
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: You rswoop a guy and your whole bee and you

1088
00:58:37,159 --> 00:58:39,519
jump and put him in the fence with your ass.

1089
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: He does it here.

1090
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: It's of my favorite games watching Japanese guys or wrestlers

1091
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,440
from the Japanese circuit compete and figure out where the

1092
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,199
the No Mercy developers got the mood set from it.

1093
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:53,639
Speaker 2: It's so fucking true, like.

1094
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:57,599
Speaker 1: The Takata head kick knockout. Yes, yes, Then he does

1095
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:00,199
a cannonball running front flip but misses does Chavo. At

1096
00:59:00,199 --> 00:59:03,519
this point, Tatsumi Fujinami tries a brain buster, but Guerrero

1097
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:06,119
goes behind with an O'Connor roll for two, and then

1098
00:59:06,159 --> 00:59:09,599
Fujinami steps in and tucks the legs in bridges backwards.

1099
00:59:10,039 --> 00:59:12,559
Uh for the one, two three, So finding the pinning combination.

1100
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:16,000
There is Tatsumi Fujinami pinning Chavo Guerrero here at Shay Stadium,

1101
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,679
and I don't know, look like Guirero's had popped out

1102
00:59:19,679 --> 00:59:22,079
before the three count, but that's okay. The crowd seems

1103
00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:24,559
kind of incredulous that Tatsumi Fujinami just won the match

1104
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,159
as he gets his arm raised, and it's a rather

1105
00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:29,400
surreal scene as Vince steps into the ring to announce

1106
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,519
him as the winner while also somehow doing commentary commentary

1107
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,039
and twenty eight the winner and still Junior Wrestling Federation

1108
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:39,679
Champion Tatsumi Fujinami.

1109
00:59:39,719 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Wow, it's looking here.

1110
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: Fujinami's book real quick, Chavo's book. I feel like he

1111
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,360
did say. He said almost nothing.

1112
00:59:54,719 --> 00:59:55,079
Speaker 2: You could do.

1113
00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: Other tours across the United States frequently, I worked the

1114
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,559
huge Chase Stadium show or Bruno that's true, well, thirty

1115
01:00:00,599 --> 01:00:02,960
thousand people were the most loaded cards I ever worked on.

1116
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,960
My good friend Andre had a highly pushed opponent and

1117
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,000
a young MP star named Hogan. Andre really took to

1118
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:10,159
Hulk as he let him body slam him in the match,

1119
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:11,400
started to break it to a lot of people, but

1120
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,199
the body slam heard around the world at wrestling. He

1121
01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:15,880
three was done. Seven years earlier, Antonio and Noki and

1122
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,320
other Japanese talent were on the show and Antonio was

1123
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:19,840
the one who got me on the show, and I

1124
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,320
was part of their contingent, likely due to Anoki, I

1125
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,159
was paid for immediately after the show. At that time,

1126
01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:28,159
the then named Worldwide Wrestling Federation treated the Japanese delegation

1127
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,760
very well, and Anoki had an excellent working relationship with them.

1128
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:34,480
My role in the card was to challenge Tatsumi Fujinami

1129
01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:38,039
for the WWWF it just wasn't Junior Heavyweight belt, and

1130
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:39,320
deliver a good match, which we did.

1131
01:00:39,519 --> 01:00:42,159
Speaker 2: They really think that it only changed when Vince took

1132
01:00:42,159 --> 01:00:42,639
over the company.

1133
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: No, it's it's hard to remember exactly when, but I

1134
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,599
mean it was. It was WWF for four years, like

1135
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:52,079
much like what it usually happened in Japan. Tatsumi went over,

1136
01:00:52,159 --> 01:00:53,880
but I didn't care. We were asked to go out

1137
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,599
and put on a ten minute clinic, and we did.

1138
01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:58,159
I challenged Fujinami often in Japan for a different belt

1139
01:00:58,199 --> 01:01:01,559
than he had, which was the nwas International Junior Heavyweight Strap.

1140
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:03,599
At this point, I think that Fujinami and I could

1141
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:05,599
have a great match in our sleep. We were praised

1142
01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:07,920
for our contest, but we executed dozens of them that

1143
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,239
were much better for the Japanese audience.

1144
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet I bet you did. I bet you did.

1145
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,679
Speaker 1: Us fans getting a taste of the Tokyo headquarter. WWF there,

1146
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,400
of course, what's wrong with that? Fujinami announces the winner

1147
01:01:21,719 --> 01:01:23,840
and again has mentioned the Japanese broadcast of the Shay

1148
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,119
Stadiums show when U Japan Television had a post match

1149
01:01:26,159 --> 01:01:29,800
interview with Tatsumi Fujinami as well. And then we see

1150
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,519
the roof of the garden for a split second. Did

1151
01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:35,159
you notice that you suddenly see the roof, miss yeah,

1152
01:01:35,239 --> 01:01:37,880
and that's because, of course that's where Vince McMann and

1153
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,559
Cal Rudman were seated, and they're going back now to

1154
01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:43,960
the garden after this match. We go ahead now to

1155
01:01:44,119 --> 01:01:46,840
the Enoki versus Larry Sharp match and Oki of course

1156
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,400
the NWF champion and it is announced as being for

1157
01:01:49,559 --> 01:01:53,559
the National Wrestling Federation Heavyweight Championship, introducing the challenger from Paulsburn,

1158
01:01:53,559 --> 01:01:55,679
New Jersey, weighing two hundred and sixty two pounds, it's

1159
01:01:55,679 --> 01:01:57,559
pretty boy Larry Sharp and tipping the.

1160
01:01:57,559 --> 01:02:00,639
Speaker 2: Scales looking more like peanut butter Larry Sharp.

1161
01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:04,159
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, PB and j exactly yep, tipping the scales

1162
01:02:04,199 --> 01:02:07,079
at two thirty four as they say. The World Martial

1163
01:02:07,159 --> 01:02:09,880
Arts Champion. He's also known as which is basically the

1164
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,320
title he created to have mixed rules fights with Muhammad,

1165
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,639
Ali Ruska and all these other guys that do other

1166
01:02:15,719 --> 01:02:16,960
fighting styles.

1167
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,159
Speaker 2: An Toni and Oki. And it's got the blue towel

1168
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,119
Tony and the John Void of pro wrest, so always

1169
01:02:23,119 --> 01:02:25,800
wearing that damn towel scarf around his God, that's a

1170
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,079
John Voyce. John Voight would do it the fucking oscars

1171
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:28,559
all the time.

1172
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: God, calm this guy down. He thinks he's a fighter

1173
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:31,840
or something.

1174
01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:35,599
Speaker 2: I know, right, dude, you're you. You don't do anything real.

1175
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,079
Speaker 1: With an Oki in the ring. Suddenly there's a lot

1176
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:42,719
of Japanese contingencies standing on the grass observing the matchup

1177
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:46,079
that you didn't see before. And yeah, to your point,

1178
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:48,320
the PB on Sharp's jacket not for pretty boy but

1179
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:48,960
peanut Butter.

1180
01:02:49,679 --> 01:02:50,079
Speaker 2: That's right.

1181
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,519
Speaker 1: Nocchi offers a hand, but there's no shake from Sharpie.

1182
01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:56,559
It's not reciprocating. Well, I mean there was a shake,

1183
01:02:56,599 --> 01:02:58,119
it was just in Larry Sharp's stomach.

1184
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,639
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I think he had one with David Lynch.

1185
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,719
No commentary for this match on the version I have.

1186
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,119
I don't know about you. No same thing that you

1187
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:08,679
couldn't find commentary for this one.

1188
01:03:09,079 --> 01:03:12,119
Speaker 1: Lots of whistling happening. Not sure if they see a

1189
01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:13,800
girl or something, but there's a lot of whistling all

1190
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,519
of a sudden, and we start with Sharp leg diving

1191
01:03:16,519 --> 01:03:20,039
on Anoke, who side steps it and Noki shoots himself,

1192
01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:23,199
but that's also dodged. They tie up and Anoke lunges

1193
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:24,760
him back to the ropes. They get a clean break

1194
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,280
lock up, headlocked by Anoch. Many more cameras going off

1195
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,440
for this match than Yes you noticed and prior ones.

1196
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,199
Of course, that makes sense with the press from Japan

1197
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,440
documenting this thing. Sharp counters with a top wristlock, but

1198
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,679
Anoki pulls him down, controlling the arm with an arm

1199
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:41,159
ringer and double underhooks, nice and tight the way Anoki's

1200
01:03:41,159 --> 01:03:44,119
putting these on. Sharp with the drop toe hold and

1201
01:03:44,159 --> 01:03:46,280
grape blinds the leg andnochi. Though with his head under

1202
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,000
the ropes, Sharp keeps cranking and finally releases with a

1203
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,119
stomp and an Och shakes it loose, lock up collar

1204
01:03:52,159 --> 01:03:55,440
and elbow, and Anoki with a snapmare where Sharp's neck

1205
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,280
didn't quite go the right way at first. Yeah, Anok's

1206
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,960
going to force it and it looked kind of ugly.

1207
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:01,159
Speaker 6: I don't.

1208
01:04:01,239 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's kind of funny, you know, this

1209
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:07,320
rotating bystanders thing going on. It's I don't think I've

1210
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,239
seen the same person twice, at least I haven't seen

1211
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:14,719
the same person three times. And it just I just

1212
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,039
find it weird because no one sits there and watches

1213
01:04:18,079 --> 01:04:21,199
the whole show, right, and and and and some people

1214
01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:23,079
don't seem to be there in an official capacity.

1215
01:04:23,159 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: Oh definitely not like it's very weird. Runs very casually dressed,

1216
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:28,320
that's what's right.

1217
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:31,719
Speaker 2: You got the guy in green shorts with shirtless, and

1218
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,480
next to him, you got I don't know that Tom

1219
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,599
Behringer from in the Big Chill. I can't tell.

1220
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,239
Speaker 1: Probably not, but it's you know, it was ninety degrees,

1221
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,519
so probably the big the big, the big heat or something.

1222
01:04:41,519 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1223
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,719
Speaker 1: So Sharp stands up in the sleeper hold and slips

1224
01:04:44,719 --> 01:04:46,480
behind to a hammer lock and he's cranking on it,

1225
01:04:46,519 --> 01:04:48,960
but brings Anoke down with the canvas sections off the

1226
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:50,960
arm to force him down for a cover for two.

1227
01:04:51,239 --> 01:04:53,159
But Anok stands up and fires off a hif toss

1228
01:04:53,159 --> 01:04:56,320
to create separation lock up to the ropes, Sharp slugs

1229
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,400
and Ok stomps him place to the crowd gets some

1230
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,920
big booze, but you can't hear the mat at all.

1231
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,519
That's kind of weird, like yeah, very weird. And Oki

1232
01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:06,400
drops uh and starts kicking the leg just like he

1233
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,960
did Uh Muhammad Ali and the crowd gets with him

1234
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:09,440
for doing this.

1235
01:05:09,639 --> 01:05:15,239
Speaker 2: Some some guy yells for four eyes must be in

1236
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:19,000
his way. I don't know, your four eyes must be

1237
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:19,199
the guy.

1238
01:05:20,159 --> 01:05:22,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, a nice guy. I can't wait to serve.

1239
01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:23,679
Speaker 6: His four ives.

1240
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,119
Speaker 2: Your dumb fuck in case you forgot you're in New York.

1241
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:28,880
Your fucking bitch.

1242
01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:33,719
Speaker 1: Sounds like flushing to me, idiot, Yes, I have two dogs,

1243
01:05:33,719 --> 01:05:41,960
please throwing those closed fists now tries to yank Sharp

1244
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,480
out of the corner, but Sharp hangs on to the

1245
01:05:43,519 --> 01:05:46,239
ropes and hangs there for just a second, and Oki

1246
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,239
then yanks him down forcefully and puts on a toe hold,

1247
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,480
standing gets a two count. Sharp has to keep his

1248
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,920
shoulders off the mat as he's enrapped in the submission hold,

1249
01:05:54,159 --> 01:05:56,639
and Oki goes to the spinning toe hold briefly like

1250
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,440
Terry Funk. Sharp gets to the rope selling big trying

1251
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,760
to stand, but he can't Anocchi with a steady pursuit.

1252
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,039
Sharp kicks him and throws him out of the buckle

1253
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:06,039
twice and Oke blocks like you would in the video

1254
01:06:06,119 --> 01:06:08,360
game with your arms up over your head. Yeah, and

1255
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,840
then throws a charp a chop and Sharp totally decletes

1256
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,719
for the sale job Andnoki gets the crowd behind him

1257
01:06:14,719 --> 01:06:17,840
in attacks. I've been kind of surprised the glimpses we've

1258
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,639
got of Anoke wrestling in the States, how much he

1259
01:06:19,719 --> 01:06:22,760
gets the New York crowd behind him. They really, yeah,

1260
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,920
seem to accept him as a big star. Yeah, it's

1261
01:06:26,039 --> 01:06:29,599
it's it's wild totainly know. The Japanese media was very

1262
01:06:29,639 --> 01:06:32,480
keen to photograph Anocch wrestling in New York. It made

1263
01:06:32,519 --> 01:06:34,920
him seem like such a bigger star back home. So

1264
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,719
that's part of what's going on here. Gets the crowd

1265
01:06:37,719 --> 01:06:39,719
behind him in his attacks, like I said, and Iris

1266
01:06:39,719 --> 01:06:42,920
whipping a chop, Sharp leaves his feet taking the bump,

1267
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:44,599
but Sharp comes with a head butt to the gut

1268
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:47,480
and scoop and a body slam, goes up top and

1269
01:06:47,599 --> 01:06:50,679
misses a falling splash. Just pretty boy, Larry Sharp, almost

1270
01:06:50,719 --> 01:06:52,679
like he slipped off a cliff the way he fell

1271
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,840
more than trying to go for a pro wrestler probably did.

1272
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,679
He stands up and he's a sitting duck for Antonio

1273
01:06:57,719 --> 01:07:00,599
and OK's inziguri that gets too is it's a big

1274
01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:03,599
botch because the referee held up the count and Sharp

1275
01:07:03,639 --> 01:07:05,400
swung his legs like he was going to kick out

1276
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,880
but didn't. But the insiguri was definitely supposed to be

1277
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,679
the finish as it always is. Right, so Anoki does

1278
01:07:10,679 --> 01:07:12,039
the right thing. He just picks him up and he

1279
01:07:12,039 --> 01:07:12,599
does it again.

1280
01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: You know what, because you know what the referee did.

1281
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,119
This is what happened. Referee, you brought it.

1282
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,239
Speaker 1: Blue the finish for Anoch. You blew the finish for

1283
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,079
the new Japan relationship, and that's a lot of money.

1284
01:07:23,079 --> 01:07:26,400
Pal one two three and Toniook defeats pretty boy Larry

1285
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,559
Sharp showedown at Shay and there you go.

1286
01:07:28,639 --> 01:07:29,199
Speaker 2: So you handle it.

1287
01:07:29,239 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: If it goes wrong, just do it again, Sure, just

1288
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,719
do it again. Fist raise jubilation for Anoch and Sharp

1289
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,880
comes up like you can barely stand. Nine minutes, forty

1290
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,039
one seconds, the Winter Steel World Martial Arts Champion and

1291
01:07:42,199 --> 01:07:45,280
NWF champion a Toni Andoki back to Colin Foley to

1292
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,800
call the tag team title match. It's WWF champion Bob

1293
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,159
Backland and former champ Pedro Morales taking on Samowen's one

1294
01:07:51,199 --> 01:07:51,639
and two.

1295
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 2: Indeed back on a call your Champion. I've never seen

1296
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,119
Backland's hair so fucking light.

1297
01:07:58,679 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's feeling the summer. He's he's enjoying the

1298
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:07,559
summer out in Glastonbury. Nice nice beaches in Glastonbury.

1299
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,159
Speaker 2: I don't think it's near the water. I think so

1300
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,440
either that's where he lived. Not a weird guy, though

1301
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:15,880
I'm told no normal does.

1302
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 1: Anybody now in the Solar system? Can you let me

1303
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,079
know gently if he's got like, not dementia, but like

1304
01:08:21,119 --> 01:08:24,560
ct or something. It crosses my mind as we go

1305
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,159
through this to try to see if we can interview

1306
01:08:26,159 --> 01:08:27,960
the guy, but I really don't think it's worth it

1307
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,720
because from what I've heard, he's even less sort of

1308
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,920
intelligible then you would expect. But as you read his

1309
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,760
book and it's like this guy seems to remember so much,

1310
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,279
and I'm sure that's a lot of his co author

1311
01:08:39,319 --> 01:08:42,560
doing the work, but it's never see interviews with him.

1312
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, well, you know, I mean, if maybe

1313
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:52,199
you know. T Diddy's friend Joe always loves to tell

1314
01:08:52,199 --> 01:08:55,359
me the fucking story where he he met Bob Becklan

1315
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,000
coming into uh I don't know. It was like a

1316
01:08:58,039 --> 01:09:03,560
fucking a gas station or repair shops, something like that.

1317
01:09:04,079 --> 01:09:06,000
I've heard this story. This guy tells me the story

1318
01:09:06,039 --> 01:09:08,359
every time I see him. Yes, he does, Okay, he

1319
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,680
tells me the story like he's never fucking told me before.

1320
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:16,760
Every time I every fucking time I know that guy. Hey,

1321
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,359
did I ever did I ever die?

1322
01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:18,520
Speaker 6: Ever?

1323
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,319
Speaker 2: Tell you about the time I met Bob Backland? You

1324
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,359
like wrestling? You want to hear that. I'll tell you

1325
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:26,479
this story. I know, Joe, I've heard it. I've heard

1326
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:31,159
it every fucking time I've seen you. I don't see

1327
01:09:31,159 --> 01:09:35,479
you often, but I know that every fucking time I

1328
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,560
see you, tell me this goddamn story about Bob Backland

1329
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:46,119
in Glastonbury. Tremendous stuff. Bell I love it. As he's

1330
01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:48,680
at the stopping shop right exactly.

1331
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: Captain Low was there because he was managing the Simoens

1332
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:54,479
and he's doing his work. He's not gonna not make

1333
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,840
this about him. Somehow, it seems like again we joined

1334
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,439
fully in Cole kind of midstream is there. I'm ending

1335
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,720
on things here. Yeah, Albano approaching his seventy seventh birthday

1336
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,920
at the time of this recording, of course, no longer

1337
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,119
with us again. Vince sounding like a nineteen thirties radio

1338
01:10:10,159 --> 01:10:13,960
announcer on the Shay Stadium. PA, nice pop for Pedro Morales.

1339
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,079
You see mel Phillips lurking ringside and the foreground WWF

1340
01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:20,960
champion Bob back then goofy as ever though a bit tanned.

1341
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,960
Thank goodness, Yes indeed comes the fist of the crowd.

1342
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,199
Big chorus of booze as well as booze with the

1343
01:10:27,319 --> 01:10:31,840
Z for that six hundred and fifteen combined pounds, the

1344
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,199
wild samoans, they cut to my man, can you see

1345
01:10:35,279 --> 01:10:36,760
Roman's face on sicca or what?

1346
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 7: Oh?

1347
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,399
Speaker 1: Yeah they get those type. Yes, it's something else, Jesus Christ.

1348
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,840
The attack traps were blue leather at the time, which

1349
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,199
I don't remember, but there they are. Best two out

1350
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:48,760
of three falls in this one. Not that Vince heeds

1351
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:53,239
the heeds the warning. As we'll get to later. Cole says,

1352
01:10:53,279 --> 01:10:54,960
this is the end of an era in the beginning

1353
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,800
of ward wrestling entertainment. I'm like, what are they going

1354
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,600
to fucking force here, he busy here.

1355
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have this? Do I have this one? Maybe

1356
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:03,880
they don't have this one. I don't have a.

1357
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,119
Speaker 1: Constant old school and the Samoans were instrumental in the

1358
01:11:07,159 --> 01:11:12,680
rock and wrestling period, And it's like, what, like the Samoans.

1359
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 2: This is what they do.

1360
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,520
Speaker 1: We lost the titles in like eighty three did Rocky

1361
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,359
Johnson and Tony Alis and we're like never heard from

1362
01:11:18,359 --> 01:11:20,960
again in the tag ranks. I mean they were around,

1363
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,439
but you know what I mean, this is what they do.

1364
01:11:24,199 --> 01:11:28,159
This is what commentary does. They fucking they ruined this shit.

1365
01:11:28,359 --> 01:11:31,760
They play out that Offha trained Batista. It's I gotta

1366
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,279
look at this, I gotta look at the wild smoke.

1367
01:11:33,399 --> 01:11:36,119
Speaker 2: Yes they do. I do have this one. This is

1368
01:11:36,359 --> 01:11:39,279
uh like fully compares what it's like having a conversation

1369
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:43,199
with either Offa or Backland in real life, which is

1370
01:11:43,319 --> 01:11:45,159
pretty entertaining, ironically.

1371
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 5: Uh, for anyone who's ever had a conversation with both

1372
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,880
AFA and Bob Backland, they would tell you that having

1373
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,359
the conversation with Backland is a whole lot stranger than

1374
01:11:56,399 --> 01:11:59,000
talking to AFA.

1375
01:12:01,319 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 2: It's not wrong, indeed, that is true.

1376
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're basically out of the WWF when the MTV

1377
01:12:09,279 --> 01:12:14,880
era hit whatever all right, big sign on a blankets

1378
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,439
as Captain's corner. I don't know why he's so excited

1379
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,680
to see it mentioned. Lou is the only one who

1380
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,079
communicated with the Samoans and they had beaten Putski in

1381
01:12:25,119 --> 01:12:29,359
Santana to become the champions, it's explained. And Albano is

1382
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,640
kicking something off the apron and walking around like a

1383
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,680
guy who spends this day sitting on a lawn chair

1384
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,640
on the sidewalk outside of a convenience store in Queens.

1385
01:12:37,159 --> 01:12:39,079
That's what he looks like to me on this particular

1386
01:12:39,119 --> 01:12:45,920
evening exactly.

1387
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,039
Speaker 2: He's a raving derelict, is what he is.

1388
01:12:48,199 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: Oh good, one fol says Bob Backlan is scary nice.

1389
01:12:53,239 --> 01:12:54,680
He said when he was a kid, he approached Bob

1390
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,720
Backlin for an autograph and Backlan gave him his home

1391
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,279
address in Glastonbury asking him to send him a male

1392
01:13:00,359 --> 01:13:02,520
so we could send back an autograph. So that's that's

1393
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,880
what it was like to run into WWF Champ Bob

1394
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:09,439
Backland back then. Exciting indeed, So there's a lock up

1395
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,760
between Peter Morales and Cica to the corner. Ceca misses

1396
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,640
a chop and hits Offa and they stand around all

1397
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,479
shocked that they hit each other. There's reference to Bob

1398
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,239
Backlan passing the title along to Hulk. Cole makes reference

1399
01:13:21,279 --> 01:13:26,239
of that through the iron cheek of course lock up and.

1400
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:29,279
Speaker 2: Talks about Pedro being a part of the first Shay

1401
01:13:29,359 --> 01:13:32,199
Stadium show in the main event with Bruno.

1402
01:13:32,319 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 3: Here here is that Pedro was part of the main

1403
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,239
event of the first WWE show here at Shay Stadium

1404
01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:43,319
in September in nineteen seventy two, when he defended his

1405
01:13:43,399 --> 01:13:47,039
title against Bruno San Martino and what would be a

1406
01:13:47,119 --> 01:13:53,000
seventy five minute curfew draw seventy five minutes.

1407
01:13:55,119 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: That's absurd.

1408
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 1: It was absurd. Yeah, it was quite a quid approach,

1409
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,119
quite a promotion, but I'm not sure it worked. I'm

1410
01:14:02,119 --> 01:14:04,880
not sure they never repeated it, you know, with their

1411
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,800
future Babyface champs. Really So there's a lock up. Morales

1412
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,399
strops to his knees and sends Sika stumbling into Offa

1413
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,920
once again. So the strategies apparently to find ways to

1414
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,319
get the simoons to run into each other, and they

1415
01:14:16,359 --> 01:14:18,520
stand around like a dog who hears a faint noise.

1416
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,880
I mean, that's the look on the Simoans face all

1417
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,920
the time to me, like a dog who fought you

1418
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,319
just said squirrel but isn't sure, trying to tell where

1419
01:14:28,039 --> 01:14:30,960
it's coming from without moving that the sound that they hear.

1420
01:14:32,119 --> 01:14:34,159
Cole recalls the first a Stadium show, like he just

1421
01:14:34,199 --> 01:14:36,880
played Peter Morross with the headlock and attack to Backland,

1422
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,039
who grabs his own headlock and a right hand secre

1423
01:14:39,079 --> 01:14:42,039
grabs a front headlock, though, lifts him up and sits

1424
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:45,439
on top. Oh no, Backland picks him up like he

1425
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,479
did Hogan and puts him on the top rope and

1426
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,840
gives him a love tap just to demonstrate his strength

1427
01:14:50,319 --> 01:14:52,720
seeking charges and gets tripped several times with the heel

1428
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:59,079
trips that Backland used to do. And yes, Folly's pointing

1429
01:14:59,119 --> 01:15:01,600
out with the pantaloon in the bare feet that Captain

1430
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,960
Leewell Banno is looking like Uncle Berry Finn on this

1431
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,399
particular night. He's walking around with no shoes on. He's

1432
01:15:07,399 --> 01:15:11,680
walking around in the grass of Shay Stadium barefoot.

1433
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 2: Luel Banno, what's wrong with that? I'm glad you put

1434
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,319
it that way. I think it's normal behavior. I'd walk

1435
01:15:19,359 --> 01:15:21,760
around barefoot if I had it with the chance for sure.

1436
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: And Folly totally calls attention to people wandering in the infield.

1437
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,039
All of a sudden that becomes very gratuitous to him.

1438
01:15:27,399 --> 01:15:29,760
Back into the front headlock and Sicca lifts and seats

1439
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,920
him on the top rope. Tries to give back Then

1440
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,720
a taste of his own medicine, but when he goes

1441
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,840
to give him a love tap, Backland blocks it and

1442
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,319
throws a right hand and does a double slap irish

1443
01:15:38,359 --> 01:15:42,840
whip in a backdrop by Backland. Cole says Bob Beckland

1444
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,840
looks like a duck in the ring, called him a

1445
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:47,000
that's pretty funny.

1446
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: Dumb fuck is better.

1447
01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: Some guys giving a tour of ringside. Apparently there's a

1448
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,840
fucking field trip going on in the middle of the match.

1449
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,720
Lock up to the corner, Backland drops and scurries away.

1450
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,439
There's some box that's being pulled under the ring by

1451
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,840
some guy, and they call that out after distracting that

1452
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,159
is there's some guy literally the middle of this match

1453
01:16:08,159 --> 01:16:10,960
fishing under the ring for something or other. Sika chops

1454
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,520
away and Bob Becklan with right hands tagged at Pedro Morales,

1455
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,640
Afa comes in and they double team and stomp the

1456
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,680
shit out of him. Pedro goes to the floor and

1457
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,720
lou gets some cheap shots in as well, while Batlan

1458
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,920
does nothing about it. Great story by Michael Cole about

1459
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,640
how Loue Albano wandered out during a match between Cactus

1460
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,960
Jack and Triple H on Raw in nineteen ninety seven.

1461
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,399
Never heard this story before, but he was saying that

1462
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:35,800
when fully in his debut is Cactus Jack September twenty seventh,

1463
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,399
nineteen ninety seven, Madison Square Garden against Triple H. While

1464
01:16:39,399 --> 01:16:41,359
it wasn't on camera, at some point during the match,

1465
01:16:41,399 --> 01:16:44,760
Loue Albano, who is there, just wanders out down the ramp,

1466
01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:47,560
wanders out into the crowd and starts talking to the

1467
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:52,279
fans and signing autographs and making a scene. When was

1468
01:16:52,319 --> 01:16:55,199
this during the Cactus Jack Triple H No Holds Barred

1469
01:16:55,239 --> 01:16:57,439
match September twenty second, nineteen ninety seven.

1470
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 2: Yes, the Square Garden. Yes, I remember this. You remember

1471
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,119
al Bano coming out? Yes, because we did that show.

1472
01:17:04,319 --> 01:17:07,199
I don't remember Albano coming out, Yeah, I do. It's

1473
01:17:07,239 --> 01:17:07,800
fucking weird.

1474
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,079
Speaker 1: I remember doing the show and they're talking about how

1475
01:17:11,079 --> 01:17:14,079
there was absolutely no explanation for why that happened, And

1476
01:17:14,119 --> 01:17:16,039
of course mcfully remembers that because he's in the match

1477
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,920
tact to Bob back then, who comes into those extra.

1478
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,079
Speaker 2: I can't tell you why it happened. You can't exactly

1479
01:17:21,119 --> 01:17:26,079
why it happened. Be nice, I am, because he's a

1480
01:17:26,079 --> 01:17:32,000
fucking lunatic. He's looking for catering. Probably right exactly, just

1481
01:17:32,039 --> 01:17:34,479
wander through the wrong curtain. I'm sure. I'm sure he

1482
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,399
bought a ticket. Actually, yeah, I wouldn't doubt that he

1483
01:17:36,399 --> 01:17:38,239
bought a ticket just so we could fucking do that.

1484
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: Back then, with those extra awkward leaping right hands he

1485
01:17:41,079 --> 01:17:44,000
used to do. But they eventually ran back into the corner,

1486
01:17:44,199 --> 01:17:45,960
and then they applied the nerve hold, which is back

1487
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,439
today courtesy of Jacob Fattu. It's time to sell, Albano

1488
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:50,119
turning around.

1489
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 2: To the gir Let's just keep fucking reminding ourselves how

1490
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,840
great Jacob Fattou is. He's bringing back the nerve hole

1491
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,279
Albano is. I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what.

1492
01:17:57,319 --> 01:17:58,920
He's on My last nerve hole.

1493
01:18:00,119 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: Albato was barefoot, quite literally touching grass here at shay

1494
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,720
Cole says Umaga used to the same nerve hold so

1495
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,000
that's when Omago is still alive.

1496
01:18:07,079 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, he used to live.

1497
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,319
Speaker 1: Simone start double stomping and keeping the pressure on Backland,

1498
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,319
cornering him and choking and grabbing at him. Fully calls

1499
01:18:15,319 --> 01:18:17,000
out Lou for cheating right in front of the rep.

1500
01:18:17,319 --> 01:18:19,199
He steps up the stairs and fires off a few

1501
01:18:19,239 --> 01:18:23,000
shots to Backland's kidneys as well. Just Lou, just fine,

1502
01:18:23,079 --> 01:18:25,760
little ways body slam on Backland.

1503
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 2: Let's you know these things happen?

1504
01:18:30,279 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: Head butt by an awful missus. Oh yeah, definitely. He

1505
01:18:33,119 --> 01:18:36,319
needs talking by himself somehow. He's justify his presence somehow,

1506
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,920
that's for sure. Backland dives to tag Pedro Morales and

1507
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,960
comes in a house of fire. Is Pedro a house

1508
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,279
of fire, Iraq writes Peer four. Brawl breaks out, the

1509
01:18:45,319 --> 01:18:47,720
Simone's running to each other off Irish whips Cole calls

1510
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:49,439
it the double nogg and knocker, even though it isn't

1511
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,479
quite that uh wow, and then there's uh let's see

1512
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:56,479
back then and offa off almost seems like he's drunk,

1513
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,720
and Backland slams some of an atomic drop. Fully calls

1514
01:18:58,720 --> 01:18:59,399
it a knee drop.

1515
01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:01,039
Speaker 2: Uh.

1516
01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:04,159
Speaker 1: Pedro Morales gets the tag, then runs off into Seca

1517
01:19:04,319 --> 01:19:07,199
who's on the apron and does an O'Connor roll for

1518
01:19:07,279 --> 01:19:10,079
the one, two three. Peter Morrele is pinning off of there,

1519
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:12,079
and you'd like to think the match is over as

1520
01:19:12,119 --> 01:19:13,680
Luke gets in the ring standing on the ropes for

1521
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,119
some reason, and Vince gets in the ring like he's

1522
01:19:17,119 --> 01:19:18,439
gonna announce that this thing is over.

1523
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 2: Oh, this is fucking a Mayan. Vince forgets. Okay, the

1524
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,760
match is two out of three falls, and and this

1525
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,079
is listen. I got this bit here because it is

1526
01:19:30,199 --> 01:19:30,960
just tremendous.

1527
01:19:31,199 --> 01:19:33,159
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of Vince McMahon, and we work for the

1528
01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:36,399
man on a daily basis. Remember the legend the man

1529
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,319
never makes mistakes, He's always right. Well, ladies and gentleman,

1530
01:19:40,399 --> 01:19:42,479
I want you to watch history in the making here,

1531
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,880
because Vince McMahon is actually going to make a mistake.

1532
01:19:46,399 --> 01:19:49,119
Vince forgets that this is the two a three fall.

1533
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 4: That job. We're going to first show your replay the

1534
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:53,159
first fall.

1535
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,319
Speaker 3: And I believe the confusion, man, that caused by the

1536
01:19:56,399 --> 01:19:59,760
explosion of the thirty six thousand fans here, I think

1537
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:01,520
they I believe that the titles were one.

1538
01:20:03,319 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 4: And now the referee explained Evince that it's two out

1539
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:06,079
of three Bill.

1540
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 11: And Vince makes the mistake. Who is there to yell

1541
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:22,000
at Vince? Well, that time it would have been his father, even.

1542
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 5: Though it was advertised in the two out of three falls.

1543
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,359
Speaker 4: Man, oh, I wish.

1544
01:20:27,119 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 5: I could go back in time and be Vince's boss

1545
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:30,359
just for a day.

1546
01:20:31,039 --> 01:20:34,239
Speaker 3: And that scow you just on his face, Ladies and gentlemen,

1547
01:20:34,279 --> 01:20:35,359
I get that every week.

1548
01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 2: Awesome. It's like the I mean, that's just while they're

1549
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:41,439
called like really on him out.

1550
01:20:41,319 --> 01:20:45,119
Speaker 1: Like it's like on the therapy couch or something. Yeah, seriously,

1551
01:20:45,319 --> 01:20:47,560
that's great. Vince forgot it was two or three falls.

1552
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,680
And then this is how Vince's mind works. As soon

1553
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,239
as he realizes that the ref whispers in his ear,

1554
01:20:52,359 --> 01:20:55,720
he immediately has an excuse. He immediately says, I've just

1555
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,640
been informed by the referee, right, as if the ref

1556
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,920
just decided that it's now two undred three falls. And

1557
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,359
of course with the crowd, they start chanting bullshit because

1558
01:21:04,359 --> 01:21:06,760
to them, like the match is over and like it

1559
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,199
seems like they're trying to cheat to favor the Samoans

1560
01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:12,000
to change the rules. Now, about how many times Pedro

1561
01:21:12,079 --> 01:21:14,720
Morales and Bob Becklin have to win, so Vince really

1562
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,640
fucked that one up. It's great to see him transition

1563
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,399
into excuse mode. I've just been aformed you know him.

1564
01:21:21,359 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 2: Well, just been informed that things of that nature have

1565
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,079
occurred and we are going to move in a different direction.

1566
01:21:27,199 --> 01:21:30,079
Speaker 1: It works, valid one. I hope they forget it now.

1567
01:21:30,079 --> 01:21:32,319
Pedro is lying down on the grasping, assaulted, and somehow

1568
01:21:32,319 --> 01:21:35,000
Albano slams Pedro like he's under the giant or something

1569
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,159
and all he's old Cogain, I mean, he lives him

1570
01:21:37,199 --> 01:21:41,479
and dumbs him. What Albano is doing Jesus choking him

1571
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,119
on the floor back then comes over to help. You

1572
01:21:43,119 --> 01:21:45,640
can see the infield dirt blowing by their faces like

1573
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,159
a cloud. It's hilarious. They throw Pedro Morels back in

1574
01:21:49,239 --> 01:21:52,520
and the cops are on the grass. NYPD getting active here.

1575
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,279
I don't know why they're all over Albano. They get

1576
01:21:55,279 --> 01:21:57,960
involved here, They're all over Albano and they started leading

1577
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,000
him out of ringside by the arms for his interference.

1578
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,560
So apparently NYPD getting the assignment from the New York

1579
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,680
State Athletic Commission to remove on the early Managers folder

1580
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,279
calls Don Morocco eating a meatball sub on the way

1581
01:22:09,279 --> 01:22:11,680
to the ring in nineteen eighty three against Jimmy Snicica,

1582
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,840
and then he says he's going to finish this turkey

1583
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:19,319
and Monster on rye okay, and you can hear him

1584
01:22:19,359 --> 01:22:22,279
talk with mouthfuls of food for the next few seconds.

1585
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:27,079
Folly goes in on a turkey and Monster does, yes,

1586
01:22:27,079 --> 01:22:27,479
he does.

1587
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Come on, folks, comes what I mean? I guess,

1588
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:40,960
I guess, I guess we're wrong again. It's okay, as

1589
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,880
he digs a huge fucking bite.

1590
01:22:43,079 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: I got on you go fuck yourself all rights, throwing

1591
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,359
from his knees, gets to Backland, who comes in throwing

1592
01:22:51,399 --> 01:22:54,039
on off runs him in a secub with an aga knocker.

1593
01:22:55,319 --> 01:22:57,880
They point out that the Simoans can break coconuts with

1594
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,640
their head, but the double nogga knocker still somehow hurts them.

1595
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,319
As Backland tries an abdominal stretch up here, four brawl

1596
01:23:03,359 --> 01:23:06,079
breaks out and Backland whips him right into the gut,

1597
01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:08,800
hooks him up for a big time pile driver. My god,

1598
01:23:09,039 --> 01:23:10,840
he does offa instead of landing on the top of

1599
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,000
his head, almost lands on his forehead on the spike

1600
01:23:13,279 --> 01:23:15,640
Cicca comes over to break up the cover, though Morales

1601
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,720
comes in ramseca into the buckling on the apron. Bob

1602
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,000
then lifts for another pile driver, but gets hit with

1603
01:23:22,039 --> 01:23:25,640
a spike to the throat by Sicca, grazing Backland's tempo

1604
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,319
as Cole puts it off of then lifts Bob Backland

1605
01:23:28,359 --> 01:23:31,439
up for apparently a somo and drop, but before he

1606
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,479
can do it, Pedro Morales comes and drop kicks off

1607
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,560
in the face. Bob Backland falls on top of Offa

1608
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,159
for the one, the two, and the three, and that

1609
01:23:40,279 --> 01:23:43,560
is it. Two falls taken Bob Backland and Pedro Morales.

1610
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:48,199
You're new WWF Tag Team champions defeating the Wild Samoans

1611
01:23:48,199 --> 01:23:49,079
here at Shasta.

1612
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: Except that Cole says that they are. They're quickly stripped

1613
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,479
of the belts. Yes, because the rules dictate yes, you

1614
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:57,960
can't hold two belts at the same time, which made

1615
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,880
me think to myself, why was back Then allowed to

1616
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,960
wrestle in the match to begin with match to begin with?

1617
01:24:04,119 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: Yes, it's they did not consult the rule book until

1618
01:24:07,039 --> 01:24:09,920
after this took place. I guess their thought was that,

1619
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,359
even though we know you can't rain as champions, you

1620
01:24:13,399 --> 01:24:16,199
can't prevent the WAF champion from trying to become.

1621
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 2: Tex Yes you can, Yes you should, because it's it's

1622
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:20,960
pointless for him to try.

1623
01:24:21,119 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: Crowd was not happy, I don't think when the fan base,

1624
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,600
I should say, was not happy. They announced a tournament

1625
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,439
after this, and the Samoans won the tournament, so they

1626
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,159
got the belts back. Anyways, this never happened, really stupid,

1627
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:33,880
but I guess the kind of thing you do when

1628
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,199
your WAF champion has no spot on the Shaye Stadium

1629
01:24:36,279 --> 01:24:39,000
card right sert them in their summer.

1630
01:24:39,079 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 2: I mean, he can't lose if he loses the match,

1631
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,000
and he looks like a goof yeah, absolutely, you know,

1632
01:24:43,279 --> 01:24:45,880
And they booked themselves into a real fucking hole there.

1633
01:24:46,399 --> 01:24:48,079
Speaker 1: Right after the victory, they cut to a great angle

1634
01:24:48,079 --> 01:24:50,880
of this massive looking crowd rejoicing. They didn't hit that

1635
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,039
angle enough in my opinion. During the course of filming

1636
01:24:53,039 --> 01:24:55,079
the show, all of a sudden, it looks like a

1637
01:24:55,159 --> 01:24:57,800
huge happening the angle they took in the crowd. But

1638
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,760
that's that kind of a brawl continues after the match.

1639
01:25:01,119 --> 01:25:02,760
Morales is knocked out of the ring and the ref

1640
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,000
raises the titles like he won them, They of course didn't.

1641
01:25:07,159 --> 01:25:11,880
As mentioned, Patterson versus Kamada is next. We're back with

1642
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:16,119
Vince on commentary with cal Rudman and Madison Square Garden. Yes,

1643
01:25:16,279 --> 01:25:18,399
a nothing match here. Kamata is in the robe going

1644
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,159
after pat before the bell, who's in his purple sequin jacket.

1645
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,000
Cal Redman says, this is what Kamada usually does, attack

1646
01:25:24,119 --> 01:25:24,680
before the show.

1647
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 2: The match even starts. They both they both do comment

1648
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,479
on on Patterson's tenacity.

1649
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,039
Speaker 4: That's something about Patton. Viders never can't jump the man out.

1650
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:37,920
He has amazing agility.

1651
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 9: I've seen him here at the Garden and Steel Cage

1652
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,560
matches and he's like a spider, contortion.

1653
01:25:43,199 --> 01:25:46,079
Speaker 7: And gymnast, you name it, he does it all got it.

1654
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what Louis says that there, Oh my god,

1655
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:52,239
all right.

1656
01:25:52,279 --> 01:25:54,159
Speaker 2: I've heard Louis say that exact same thing.

1657
01:25:54,239 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 1: So Irish whipping an amazing one foot drop kick by

1658
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,920
the three hundred pound Kamada. This guy can fly. He

1659
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,039
goes to the top rope and in a hurry. But

1660
01:26:02,079 --> 01:26:03,960
this one was on a Colosseum videotape.

1661
01:26:04,039 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 2: Yes, yes it was a good call, and you know

1662
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:10,720
what I think, So I'm sitting here thinking to myself,

1663
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,000
why did I put Gene Oakland? And I think I

1664
01:26:13,119 --> 01:26:16,319
originally used the gen oak I think the gene no, no,

1665
01:26:16,359 --> 01:26:19,239
because you wouldn't have had this. I think I traded

1666
01:26:19,319 --> 01:26:24,159
a Geneoakreland commentary track from one of these things. That's

1667
01:26:24,239 --> 01:26:28,199
usually a good trade, Yeah, usually a pretty good trade. Yep.

1668
01:26:28,319 --> 01:26:32,800
I think Gorilla and Gorilla and and Gene are on

1669
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,359
one of these and I didn't use it. Fascinating happened,

1670
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,920
but I kept them in the death toll. So that's

1671
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,399
what happens. Yep.

1672
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,119
Speaker 1: Come out of the top rope with a kamikaze or

1673
01:26:43,159 --> 01:26:46,560
something Vince says, but it's basically a flying splash. Patterson

1674
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,039
moves out of the way, come out of crashes. Patterson climbs,

1675
01:26:49,079 --> 01:26:50,920
hits the bombs away knee drop off the top. It

1676
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,399
goes to cover, but Kamata lifts the shoulder with the

1677
01:26:53,399 --> 01:26:55,880
no cover at all, total no cell of Patterson's finish there.

1678
01:26:56,399 --> 01:26:58,079
They put them over as a tough man. As Patterson

1679
01:26:58,119 --> 01:26:59,760
comes with those punches he used to do, were used

1680
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:04,000
to at the elbow, you know, hes piston punches. His

1681
01:27:04,079 --> 01:27:06,640
knuckles are red. Cal Rudman says, as there's a whip

1682
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,039
to the corner and a backdrop high backdrop by Patterson.

1683
01:27:09,239 --> 01:27:12,640
I knited the chest on the canvas and Kamata, who's

1684
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,159
built like one of those headhunters from the ninety six Rumble,

1685
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,560
it just flails about his va. Oh my god, so true.

1686
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,439
He really is trying to figure out the body type.

1687
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,520
It's the best I could come up with. Vince's one

1688
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:28,840
thing about pat Patterson is he can you can never

1689
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,039
count the man out. Yeah, that's where the spider contortion

1690
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:34,760
thing comes from. Another dust cloud from the infield. Dirt

1691
01:27:35,039 --> 01:27:37,840
makes itself known. Kamata comes out with some powder in

1692
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,760
his hand. He brought some white powder because you know

1693
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,079
he's a heel from that part of the world. Patterson

1694
01:27:43,159 --> 01:27:45,279
ducks the powder throw though, and it's the referee who

1695
01:27:45,279 --> 01:27:47,680
gets a face full of powder. And my god, does

1696
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,880
this referee fly like he was actually hit with a

1697
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:54,239
bullet and not just sugar or whatever that is. Dick

1698
01:27:54,319 --> 01:27:56,479
Kroll would be the referee here, and he calls for

1699
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,399
the bell for disqualification. It rings and Patterson's lamb's tor

1700
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,239
Kamada and still covers him in the ref it's still

1701
01:28:02,239 --> 01:28:04,359
inclined to count him down, even though that same referee

1702
01:28:04,399 --> 01:28:07,119
just ended the match. But Kamata kicks out and they

1703
01:28:07,159 --> 01:28:09,920
raised Pat Patterson's hand, so clearly there was some miscommunication

1704
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,600
going on here. Clearly Tor Kamada thought it was his

1705
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:17,720
show and his time to shine, kicking out of finish's yes, yeah,

1706
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,640
so he kind of made it all look pretty fucking stupid.

1707
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:21,279
But he gets under the floor writhing in a minute

1708
01:28:21,279 --> 01:28:23,600
forty eight via his qualification. You're winner is Pat Patterson,

1709
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,399
according to Vince McMahon, and they again show a fleeting

1710
01:28:26,399 --> 01:28:29,560
glimpse of the ceiling at Madison Square Garden as that's

1711
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,479
where Vince and cal Rudman and providing commentary from, and

1712
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,000
they switch back to that. We push forward now as

1713
01:28:35,039 --> 01:28:39,119
the Fabulous Mula teams with Beverly Shade to defeat Candy

1714
01:28:39,159 --> 01:28:42,359
molloy and Peggy Lee. Vince says Mulla is the World

1715
01:28:42,399 --> 01:28:46,640
Women's champion before forty thousand here in Madison Square Garden.

1716
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,159
He says, of course, he means Shay Stadium, and he

1717
01:28:49,239 --> 01:28:50,199
quickly corrects himself.

1718
01:28:50,279 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 2: YEH.

1719
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,239
Speaker 1: Can't blame him though, because he's visibly sitting in the garden.

1720
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 2: Now, what a fucking what a fucking crazy, fucking I

1721
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,079
don't know. Yeah, it's a funny. It's bizarre now that

1722
01:28:59,159 --> 01:29:01,199
I know that that's really bizarre. Is a lot.

1723
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,279
Speaker 1: So these are all women that you know part of

1724
01:29:04,359 --> 01:29:06,800
Mulla's stables. She had her compound where she trained and

1725
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,159
housed wrestlers, and it got creepy and it got abusive.

1726
01:29:09,199 --> 01:29:12,199
Speaker 2: We know the story, but can Beverly's shade looks like

1727
01:29:12,239 --> 01:29:15,199
she has ended many of our fights.

1728
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,520
Speaker 1: Kenny malloy has tried to discuss living at Camp Mulla

1729
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,199
and defended her from Mullah from some comments. Here she

1730
01:29:23,239 --> 01:29:25,880
is in a shoot interview that's on YouTube very quickly.

1731
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,079
I do think we'll ever get to talk about Candy

1732
01:29:28,119 --> 01:29:28,880
malloy again.

1733
01:29:29,399 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 2: Probably not.

1734
01:29:31,319 --> 01:29:35,279
Speaker 12: And I worked for the fabulous Mulas. She was fine

1735
01:29:35,319 --> 01:29:40,520
looking agent. I was a professional wrestler for sixteen years,

1736
01:29:41,039 --> 01:29:45,119
working back and forth with her, and I lived on

1737
01:29:45,239 --> 01:29:46,880
her property with my family.

1738
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,279
Speaker 13: So not only yourself, but your family got to know

1739
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:52,720
the fabulous Mulah.

1740
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:57,319
Speaker 12: Oh yes, yes, I started. She trained me in nineteen

1741
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:01,039
seventy eight and I had my last man to ninety five,

1742
01:30:01,279 --> 01:30:03,640
so there were a lot of years there with her.

1743
01:30:05,119 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 13: Your family lived there for quite a while and what

1744
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,600
was their years? What was their impression?

1745
01:30:13,039 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 12: Oh, they loved Molah. She she spoiled my two children

1746
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,399
because I was the only one there that had small children.

1747
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,920
So the girls and Nolah, they all kind of spoiled

1748
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:32,239
my kids. But she was a wonderful person and she

1749
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:37,600
loved kids, and she loved wrestling. I mean that was

1750
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,560
her whole lifeless, her wrestling.

1751
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:44,119
Speaker 13: How did Mullah want the girls to present themselves at

1752
01:30:44,319 --> 01:30:45,600
the wrestling shows?

1753
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:48,119
Speaker 12: Ladies?

1754
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 13: The reason I ask you that there has been allegations

1755
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:57,600
internet rumors. They caused a petition that would call for

1756
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,279
the fabulous Mula's name to be taken on off the

1757
01:31:00,319 --> 01:31:04,600
Battle Royal at WrestleMania. They were going to honor herself.

1758
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,520
Speaker 2: Now that's horrible.

1759
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:16,039
Speaker 13: There's been allegations of Mullah pressuring girls into prostitution, drugging

1760
01:31:16,359 --> 01:31:17,720
girls from Camp Bullah.

1761
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 12: No, no, no, no, no, there were no drugs. She

1762
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:26,319
wouldn't even allow alcohol on the property. And if she

1763
01:31:27,079 --> 01:31:30,880
found out if any of the girls were training, if

1764
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,319
they had done any kind of drugs or any kind

1765
01:31:33,319 --> 01:31:37,399
of alcohol while they were training, they were gone.

1766
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:41,560
Speaker 13: And as far as men coming onto the property or

1767
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:46,560
approaching you.

1768
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:48,520
Speaker 12: They weren't allowed No one was allowed there except our families.

1769
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,159
Men weren't allowed on that property, like I said, unless

1770
01:31:52,199 --> 01:31:56,039
it was family. I had three little younger brothers. They

1771
01:31:56,159 --> 01:31:58,600
used to come down and visit. But Mulla knew them,

1772
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,119
she knew they were my brother But just as far

1773
01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:05,720
as having men coming on the property, no, that was right,

1774
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:06,479
big no No.

1775
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 7: A La Wrestling podcast.

1776
01:32:44,079 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 10: He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast with Jack N Seo,

1777
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:49,399
m J p Soo.

1778
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 2: All right, satisfying. Oh listen, I believe everything she said.

1779
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,800
Close the book. Yeah good, Yeah is innocent.

1780
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 1: As part of a series of interviews that started to

1781
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:03,960
get after the controversy that the host references there where

1782
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,239
they took her name off the Battle Royal because some

1783
01:33:06,279 --> 01:33:08,760
women were coming forward claiming abuse at Camp Mulla. And

1784
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,880
then all these other women including who we see here,

1785
01:33:12,239 --> 01:33:15,359
Candy Molloy from Shay Stadium coming out to defend her

1786
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,279
so tag team match Mulla and Shade versus Malloyan Lee

1787
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,520
vinces Mula has been the champ a long long time.

1788
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:26,520
Rudman says it was like May says, she's like May West,

1789
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,840
Mulla is She's extraordinary. One fall twenty minutes, Mula, I'm

1790
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,119
not fooling anyone with that jet black dye job, if

1791
01:33:33,119 --> 01:33:35,640
you ask me. But uh huh nineteen eighty, she's still

1792
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,800
pretty limber in nineteen eighty. It's wild to see Mula

1793
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:39,640
actually be able to move around the ring for once.

1794
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agreed, agreed.

1795
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 1: It says Shay has something for everyone. Ladies had a

1796
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:45,840
bit of variety in an almost any pro wrestling card.

1797
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:50,159
So immediately apologizing for their presence here, Cal says, a

1798
01:33:50,159 --> 01:33:52,199
lot of girls from the South seem to get into.

1799
01:33:52,079 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 2: It the wrestling. Vince's I don't know why that is.

1800
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:02,680
Nel says, it's survival. Well, hey, he does have a question.

1801
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:03,960
Maybe this is the same thing. I don't have the

1802
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:05,640
whole thing written down, but I do have him asking

1803
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:09,199
a question, an important question regarding women wrestlers.

1804
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 9: You know these lady Russ's up. What do you do

1805
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,319
if you're trying to make love to one and it's

1806
01:34:13,399 --> 01:34:14,199
not going the way.

1807
01:34:14,039 --> 01:34:17,520
Speaker 6: You want to, you'd be in big trouble. You do

1808
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:18,640
have to listen when they do.

1809
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,119
Speaker 4: I would thinks like crossing a pirate with a tiger.

1810
01:34:21,159 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 7: I don't know what you get.

1811
01:34:22,039 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 4: Way to talk to you better?

1812
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:29,520
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Cal, that's enough, thank you? Yeah, I

1813
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:33,000
think not funny? Ever?

1814
01:34:33,399 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 5: Is he?

1815
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 2: Now? Maybe he is?

1816
01:34:35,279 --> 01:34:37,520
Speaker 1: He says the women in the South are chopping cotton

1817
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,159
all their life and then says, you think so.

1818
01:34:42,199 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 2: He's all like, that's that's uh, he's he's got that

1819
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,920
laugh all over the place and that's cow you can tell. Yeah,

1820
01:34:49,079 --> 01:34:51,279
It's like he is, oh fuck, well.

1821
01:34:51,239 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 1: Is he's talking about like southern ladies and ship It's like,

1822
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:54,560
where do you think Linda is from?

1823
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 8: You know?

1824
01:34:55,239 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right off? Cal realizes he's doing that or not?

1825
01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:58,479
I'm sure not.

1826
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 1: He's a New York guy, you know, says to pretending

1827
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:05,079
he doesn't know what York is. The New York Mulla

1828
01:35:05,159 --> 01:35:07,720
takes a couple of Peggy Lee drop kicks. No relation

1829
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,800
to the singer Vince wants us to know is more

1830
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,079
lures are under the knee lift and a stomp and

1831
01:35:12,119 --> 01:35:14,720
a snammr by the hair. Vin's probably getting flashbacks to

1832
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:18,760
getting seasoned assist letters for calling Hulk Gogan Hulk. I

1833
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:22,279
imagine Shade looking like Lauren Ambrose and can heartily wait

1834
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,159
gets into the fray hair mares.

1835
01:35:25,239 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 2: Ain't that the truth? That's really funny.

1836
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:30,319
Speaker 1: They're rerely doing anything. Worst arm bars you've seen. Mulla

1837
01:35:30,359 --> 01:35:33,039
comes in, grabs the hair behind the ref's back, while

1838
01:35:33,239 --> 01:35:36,800
clearly in the ref's face. Kenny Molloy comes in, Vince

1839
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:40,920
calls her a sweet little gal. Okay, Mulla comes in,

1840
01:35:41,039 --> 01:35:45,800
grabs an arm. Cow wells, at what point? At what

1841
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:49,239
point he mentions something with the females integral part of

1842
01:35:49,359 --> 01:35:54,279
women's Fuck this? Okay, someone stop this guy. I have

1843
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:56,239
him asking a question about lady wrestlers in.

1844
01:35:59,319 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: Thanks for a Friday. Yeah, I know I can count

1845
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,439
on you. Well, well, let's try to move on. Appreciate

1846
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:08,840
I appreciate Cal's insight into women in general here and.

1847
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 9: Watching lady Russell's as in watching ladies in business, you

1848
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,119
wonder at what point their emotions enter into it more

1849
01:36:16,199 --> 01:36:19,800
than it would a male wrestler, because emotions are, as

1850
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:21,239
we all know, an integral.

1851
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 7: Partners of a woman.

1852
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 8: Yes, whatever, that formula is a fabulous bull the same

1853
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:28,720
I have everything your way.

1854
01:36:30,039 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 2: It's so fucking nervous. It's like, you know, it's funny,

1855
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,680
It's funny how abusive Vince is behind the scenes when

1856
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,840
he is on screen. At this point, he's like, well,

1857
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,720
you know, these things are are of a cyclical nature

1858
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,720
and regards to the hands on approach that we have

1859
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:52,159
here in the w W E uh the we prefer

1860
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:57,760
to talk about, you know, the heavy lifting in the

1861
01:36:57,880 --> 01:36:59,600
ring in regards to getting our ducks in a row.

1862
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:02,800
And I want to be completely transparent that we are

1863
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:08,119
currently in an all hands on deck situation. Have you

1864
01:37:08,199 --> 01:37:10,439
forgot what Cal said yet? I keep going.

1865
01:37:13,279 --> 01:37:16,600
Speaker 1: Someone stopped this guy Mula comes in with an armlock

1866
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:21,159
on Peggy Lee and distracting the referee. Malloy gets in

1867
01:37:21,239 --> 01:37:23,520
there and just walks forward into the bodies until the

1868
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:27,880
ref Seas are just horrible stuff. These they're just terrible wrestlers.

1869
01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:31,319
Speaker 2: I know, it's it's really awful. It's so bad.

1870
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:35,439
Speaker 1: Talk about how big boned these women are. Oh for god,

1871
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:37,880
it says her name was Bertha. Cal says she did

1872
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,640
her best work after the midnight hour.

1873
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,199
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have this one prostitutes.

1874
01:37:45,279 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 4: So I still can't believe that you had chicks.

1875
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:48,720
Speaker 2: No, not that one.

1876
01:37:54,279 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 6: Big she traveled.

1877
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:13,039
Speaker 9: Well, she did her best work after the midnight our Okay.

1878
01:38:14,359 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 7: Likes out.

1879
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:25,359
Speaker 2: And listen. Obviously he's just he's just talking about treating women, right, obviously,

1880
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:30,720
that's you know, what is this guy's dealt He has

1881
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:34,520
complete respect for women and does not consider them to

1882
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:40,880
be sexual objects and hookers and whores at all. He

1883
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,359
believes in in gender equality.

1884
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 1: He believes everything Kenny Milloyd just said on that shoe

1885
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:49,399
interview is absolutely factual about the lack of sexual activity.

1886
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,319
She said and couldn't come on the property, and it's like, yeah,

1887
01:38:52,319 --> 01:38:53,319
I know, because they had condoms.

1888
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,399
Speaker 2: He should have taken my, uh my, my women's studies

1889
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,720
class that I took it in college. Oh, that would

1890
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:02,439
have been a treat to hear him bring that one

1891
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,439
down after. Oh my god, that would have been absolutely tremendous.

1892
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,680
Candy runs in, what was that teacher's name? I remember

1893
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:12,319
that teacher's name, but she was a trip. I can't

1894
01:39:12,399 --> 01:39:14,600
I can't help you there. Yeah, I know, I can

1895
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:21,199
picture though, small blond woman. Oh my god, I can't

1896
01:39:21,239 --> 01:39:29,439
think of her fucking name. But she was like, you know, hey, everything, yeah, everything,

1897
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:33,039
you know was a social construct that was exact is

1898
01:39:33,319 --> 01:39:38,520
thank god, gender and and and the social contructs constructs thereof.

1899
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:41,399
Speaker 1: How much is tuition again to you hear that? Okay,

1900
01:39:42,399 --> 01:39:44,359
just trying to get a sense of proportion here. Yeah,

1901
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:47,960
Candy comes in with absolutely no tag whatsoever. Kind of

1902
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:51,119
whiffs on the punch Peggy Lee does and there's a.

1903
01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 2: Monkey must have been an emotional response. If cal Rudman

1904
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:56,600
was commenting on he must have said she came in,

1905
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:58,000
she tagged in via.

1906
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,079
Speaker 1: Emotion, trots around in the ring and does another one

1907
01:40:01,119 --> 01:40:03,439
to fabulous Mullah. They're just like looking to Mulla for

1908
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:07,680
direction during the match. Cal calls her a rough house lady,

1909
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:10,439
says she could work as a bartender or bounce her anywhere.

1910
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:13,880
I think he's saying of Peggy Lee Shade, Beverly Shade

1911
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,880
where her name is, drops her and stumps away. Cal says,

1912
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,000
imagine having a lady like that in your corner as

1913
01:40:19,039 --> 01:40:21,560
you fight the battles of life. Cal says, you have

1914
01:40:22,199 --> 01:40:24,880
a very quizzical look on your face. Vince, I think

1915
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:26,720
I have you thinking about that one. So I think

1916
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:30,039
that's definitely him making a comment about Linda Mulla is

1917
01:40:30,199 --> 01:40:33,600
choking Malloy with the tag rope. I think as Cal says,

1918
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:37,119
someone's getting choked to death and the most monotone you

1919
01:40:37,159 --> 01:40:41,239
could possibly say that sentence. Candy is scurrying under the

1920
01:40:41,319 --> 01:40:44,239
legs and tags Peggy Lee no response whatsoever.

1921
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,279
Speaker 2: She tries to do babyface.

1922
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: Things in there, monkey flip shade, shade tags Mullah. Mulla

1923
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:53,319
stands on the ropes and literally waves her opponent, Peggy

1924
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:55,279
over to her so she can grab her and throw

1925
01:40:55,279 --> 01:40:55,840
her in the ring.

1926
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,600
Speaker 2: Over the ropes. Lee with a step over toe hold,

1927
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:03,479
Mulla grabs a hand.

1928
01:41:04,399 --> 01:41:06,560
Speaker 1: Candy comes in doing the light crank on sleigh. They're

1929
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,560
trying to do like a double submission spot. They both

1930
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:11,680
sit on the legs and crank away. It's just just

1931
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,920
so awful. It is Bruno working the hammer locket is

1932
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,960
not on the canvas. Okay, it is not quite the

1933
01:41:18,039 --> 01:41:21,000
opposite in terms of impact. Peggy Lee is trying to

1934
01:41:21,119 --> 01:41:24,039
tell Candy to coordinate jumping down on the knees. They're

1935
01:41:24,079 --> 01:41:27,079
trying to do like one, two three jumps. Mulla finally

1936
01:41:27,159 --> 01:41:30,279
kicks off missus a splash on Peggy Lee. Lee misses

1937
01:41:30,319 --> 01:41:33,760
a splash as well. Mulla comes basically a shotgun dropkick,

1938
01:41:34,119 --> 01:41:38,199
dodgers Lee's drop kick, stomps her throat. Cal says, Mulla's

1939
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:42,039
a closer, She's a finisher. I can see it coming.

1940
01:41:42,279 --> 01:41:45,039
And indeed there's an Irish whip and a backdrop on

1941
01:41:45,119 --> 01:41:48,000
Peggy Lee. By Fabulous Mula and she makes the cover

1942
01:41:48,159 --> 01:41:51,800
for the one, two, and the three Fabulous Mula and

1943
01:41:52,319 --> 01:41:56,119
Beverly Shade defeat Candy Molloy and Peggy Lee. This one

1944
01:41:56,199 --> 01:42:00,319
survives on tape, but not greg Ganya versus at all.

1945
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,159
Speaker 2: But the best thing is is that one thing I

1946
01:42:04,239 --> 01:42:07,119
did find. I thought i'd found the match. Okay, I

1947
01:42:07,239 --> 01:42:09,880
thought I'd found the match, but you know what it was?

1948
01:42:10,119 --> 01:42:20,680
What's that somebody reconstructed the card on one of the videos.

1949
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:22,239
I hate that. That happens to me all the time.

1950
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:25,560
It's so fucking annoying that. And so here I am

1951
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,520
thinking that I found this fucking you know of course

1952
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:34,520
this you know again Andrew's fork from the Last Supper. No,

1953
01:42:35,359 --> 01:42:37,359
and instead it's this. It's like nothing.

1954
01:42:39,399 --> 01:42:41,520
Speaker 1: It must have been similar to how they wouldn't show

1955
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:45,760
Harley on WWF television. It must have been some deal

1956
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:47,239
where they didn't want to show. It's funy.

1957
01:42:47,279 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 2: They wouldn't even tape it. It's funny to me they

1958
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:50,279
wouldn't even tape. Very strange.

1959
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,680
Speaker 1: But I mean, let's think about this. Great gun is

1960
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:57,039
floating around backstage. Could this be the first time he

1961
01:42:57,159 --> 01:43:01,359
hears about eyes on hullle Cogan goes back and tells

1962
01:43:01,399 --> 01:43:04,079
the old man about it, and within months holts in

1963
01:43:04,119 --> 01:43:07,880
the AWA. You're going on there, greg eight. Did you

1964
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:11,079
notice back there what they got for talent? Grego, what

1965
01:43:11,119 --> 01:43:12,119
they got for talent up there?

1966
01:43:13,119 --> 01:43:13,279
Speaker 2: Hey?

1967
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:13,560
Speaker 12: You know?

1968
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:16,119
Speaker 2: Are you know? And guys, we can invite over for

1969
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:17,319
chop dinner.

1970
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:22,399
Speaker 1: Chopped dinner, yes, and says after this one, it's a

1971
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:24,239
little different style than the men, that's one way to

1972
01:43:24,279 --> 01:43:26,760
put it. Gl says, Mula closes like Joe Lewis used

1973
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:29,199
to do with the left hook, and Vince gets in

1974
01:43:29,239 --> 01:43:32,000
the ring despite begun commentary and announced that this one's

1975
01:43:32,039 --> 01:43:37,439
over at six minutes in eighteen seconds. And now we

1976
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,079
have Gene with the voiceover for Colisseum home video never

1977
01:43:40,239 --> 01:43:43,800
shown on television. There's the Gene right there. He doesn't

1978
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:48,479
announce the matchups, Gens, He's doing the wrap around.

1979
01:43:48,239 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 2: So to speak.

1980
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 1: It's Tony Atlas versus Ken Petera for the WWF Intercontinental Championship. Literally,

1981
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,199
they say, two of the strongest men in the world.

1982
01:43:55,319 --> 01:43:59,359
And we talked a lot about Ken and Tony's interactions.

1983
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:03,560
I believe on the Georgia leg of the Hulk Cogan

1984
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:07,079
Journey because there's that moment on Georgia Championship Wrestling where

1985
01:44:07,079 --> 01:44:10,800
Sirling Golden cuts promo and then is confronted ringside by

1986
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:13,520
Tony Atlas, who Olie Anderson was bringing in and pushing

1987
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:15,359
strongly at the time, and they were teasing that as

1988
01:44:15,359 --> 01:44:19,560
a battle of muscleman. Also, when Hulkgan left Alabama, you'll

1989
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,359
recall to go to Memphis, Ron Fuller filled that spot

1990
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:25,119
on the card with Tony Atlas, the next closest thing

1991
01:44:25,159 --> 01:44:28,119
he could get to a muscleman. So Ken throwing up

1992
01:44:28,359 --> 01:44:30,079
the up yours on the floor is the big time

1993
01:44:30,119 --> 01:44:32,359
heel that he was. Atlas is on the ropes barking

1994
01:44:32,399 --> 01:44:34,239
down at him, a big time grudge match about to

1995
01:44:34,239 --> 01:44:36,760
play out. Here we also read excerpts on that show

1996
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:39,520
from Ken Baterra's book about how much of a nightmare

1997
01:44:39,560 --> 01:44:41,359
it could be working in there with Tony Atlas, who

1998
01:44:41,359 --> 01:44:43,920
would just hurt you in advertently all the time, and

1999
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:46,039
he'd always come out busted up and worse for wear.

2000
01:44:46,279 --> 01:44:47,960
At a certain point he almost loses him on a

2001
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:52,439
grilla breast slam, so almost gets him back there thirty

2002
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:54,600
minute time limit. The Grand Wizard, who is the manager

2003
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:56,960
of Kenpeterira's on the apron and all gold, pointing and

2004
01:44:57,039 --> 01:45:00,319
barking at Tony Atlas, who's introduced at two hundred forty

2005
01:45:00,399 --> 01:45:02,640
nine pounds to a nice ovation. Two sixty two is

2006
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:05,840
Ken Peterra with the white leather Intercontinental strap on. Not

2007
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:08,560
the one we would know, but they Tara was the

2008
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:14,000
first champion after the initial champion, Pat Patterson. There's Gorilla.

2009
01:45:14,119 --> 01:45:16,680
Gorilla is the one who lays down the commentary track

2010
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,800
over this match for Colisseum Home video and he says

2011
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:21,359
there's fifty thousand plus.

2012
01:45:21,279 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 2: Fans on hand for this one, So I think that's

2013
01:45:24,079 --> 01:45:24,680
totally accurate.

2014
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 1: Somewhere in the middle problem, the Wizard peels the ring

2015
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:30,479
attire off Ken Peterra. They circle, the Grand Wizard is

2016
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,039
putting over the bench press. Part of me, Guerrilla Monsoon

2017
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:35,520
is putting over the bench press and other records held

2018
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:40,079
by Ken Peterra. According to Brian Solomon's book, Gorilla Monsoon

2019
01:45:40,399 --> 01:45:43,079
had a great degree of personal respect for Ken Peterra

2020
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,840
and actually gave him his scalp so to speak to

2021
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,720
retire the very last match. An angle that grin on

2022
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:53,079
Soon did as an active wrestler was Ken Peterra, who

2023
01:45:53,199 --> 01:45:55,920
put him out of commission, and in fact Gorilla Monsoon

2024
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:59,880
mentions that in the course of the commentary here son

2025
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:03,520
Tara comes through and blocks a right hand and goes

2026
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,319
off a high one foot dropkick by Tony Outlas turns

2027
01:46:06,359 --> 01:46:11,359
the tables. Unlike the other commentary tracks on this show,

2028
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:13,680
Guerrilla Monson's track, the way they used to do these

2029
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:17,520
colosseum voiceovers really drowns out the natural crowd noise. Yes,

2030
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:19,439
it does, which for the safe Stadium show is really

2031
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:23,920
nice feature of the show. Yes, Pateria tries pretty brutal.

2032
01:46:24,239 --> 01:46:29,600
Those those Colossium video on, those early Colossum video ones

2033
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:32,399
were brutal in regards to that those hot box voiceovers.

2034
01:46:33,399 --> 01:46:35,279
So Patia tries to kick, it's caught and Tony Atliss

2035
01:46:35,279 --> 01:46:37,560
slugs him in the gut, lifts him high with the

2036
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:41,199
delayed gorilla press and man with Tony Outlas's gorilla press

2037
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,920
put his abs on display. Yes, he tosses. Petera ends

2038
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:46,840
up in the rope one foot, caught up there in

2039
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,079
total pain. As ken Petera, he comes up with the

2040
01:46:49,159 --> 01:46:51,479
need of the gut that somehow again causes Tony Atlas

2041
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,640
to fall straight backward instead of hunching forward. Patera with

2042
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:56,039
a whip and a lary it off to the side,

2043
01:46:56,079 --> 01:47:00,199
almost like Hulk used to do a boomba Yeah, ups

2044
01:47:00,239 --> 01:47:03,279
the elbow for two big kickout though, sends Petera flying

2045
01:47:03,319 --> 01:47:05,920
into the ring ropes where he gets tied up like

2046
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:08,840
a spider or something. Those ropes bouncing up and down

2047
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:09,680
like you wouldn't believe.

2048
01:47:10,279 --> 01:47:10,399
Speaker 6: Ken.

2049
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Peterra rams Tony Atlass into the corner. Monson says, he

2050
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,279
didn't do your homework, Kenny. Tony like that because his

2051
01:47:15,399 --> 01:47:18,520
head right, Ken hurt his head. I thought that was

2052
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:20,600
just a Samoan thing. They're trying to say it's just

2053
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:23,000
a brown skin thing. Because that starts to get a

2054
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:23,600
little weird.

2055
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it past him. I wouldn't put it

2056
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:26,520
past him just.

2057
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,319
Speaker 1: Because Bobo Brazil's head was hard. That means Tony, I guess.

2058
01:47:30,079 --> 01:47:32,399
So Tony Alis closes in no selling punches with the

2059
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:34,680
big comeback Ken. Petera is selling. His hand is hurting

2060
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:37,720
every time he punches Tony Atlas in the skull and Gorilla.

2061
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:40,840
Monson gives him two demerits for the Grand Wizard not

2062
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:43,520
doing his homework and not advising Petera that punches aren't

2063
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,479
worth it against Atlas, who does a leaping cocoa butt

2064
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:50,560
as it's called, and Ken Peterra sells the knockkneed like

2065
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,159
he's about to fall down. Another one drops him Tony

2066
01:47:53,199 --> 01:47:54,800
Atlas with a high elbow and a head butt and

2067
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,479
a splash. He covers Potero for two. Gorilla Monson faults

2068
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,520
the referee for being out of position as he's wont

2069
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,439
to do two and a quarter. Gorilla declares that pinfall.

2070
01:48:04,079 --> 01:48:06,479
Tony Atlas is throwing head butts about a half a dozen,

2071
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,439
by Gorilla's count, and he knows a dozen.

2072
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,279
Speaker 2: He knows a dozen, Yes, he does. Listen, he knows

2073
01:48:11,319 --> 01:48:14,640
a dozen. He knows he especially knows a baker's dozen. Correct.

2074
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,239
Speaker 1: Another jumping head butt by Tony at listen. Petera collapses

2075
01:48:18,279 --> 01:48:21,359
through the ropes onto the apron. He gets back up front,

2076
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:24,600
face draped across the top rope. Come on, referee, do

2077
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:28,640
your job in there, Gorilla Monson insists. Ken Petera drops

2078
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:32,239
Tony Atlt's throat first on the top rope. Petera then

2079
01:48:32,279 --> 01:48:34,119
climbs the ropes and tries a knee but lands on

2080
01:48:34,199 --> 01:48:38,079
his feet. Yep, there we go, Gorilla points out the

2081
01:48:38,119 --> 01:48:40,119
pitcher's mount in the background as Patera comes with a

2082
01:48:40,159 --> 01:48:42,680
gorilla press of his own, but man, he doesn't lock

2083
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:44,760
those arms out. He struggles to get the big Tony

2084
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:46,279
at Liss up and a gorilla press of his own

2085
01:48:46,319 --> 01:48:48,039
and almost loses him and dumps him on his head.

2086
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:49,920
That would have been a complete disaster.

2087
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 2: I want to make an announcement. Yeah, it's very important

2088
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:58,159
to announce I found Waldo. Found Waldo Waldo. He's a

2089
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:03,279
He's where's Waldo's ringside guy in a red and white

2090
01:49:03,319 --> 01:49:03,960
striped outfit?

2091
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 1: Eric, No, that'd be a fun thing. Where's Waldo in

2092
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:09,640
the crowd at a wrestling show?

2093
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:14,279
Speaker 2: Seriously? I mean, freaking idiot just fighting down in his

2094
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:19,560
in his in his red and white striped shirt, fucking goon. Look.

2095
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 1: Ptera locks out of full Nelson now, which of course

2096
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:26,119
was dreaded. He starts spinning Atlas around like he used

2097
01:49:26,159 --> 01:49:28,399
to do in the opening video montage on Colisseum Home

2098
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:32,399
Videos that I didn't didn't So he's got Atlas locked out.

2099
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,279
But finally Atlas drapes his locked arms over the top rope.

2100
01:49:35,399 --> 01:49:38,640
Monsoon talks about Ken Peterra slapping that on him and

2101
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:41,760
making him retire once upon a time, and that's exactly

2102
01:49:42,319 --> 01:49:44,239
what it was. I think it was the July twenty

2103
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:48,720
sixth Spectrum Show nineteen eighty Backlan defended the title against

2104
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:51,960
Peterra in the main event, Monsoon with special referee. They

2105
01:49:52,079 --> 01:49:57,479
have a blow up and uses a foreign object. Terra

2106
01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:03,840
gets the victory. They have a match later, a grudge

2107
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:08,319
match on a Spectrum show August twenty third, with Peteria's

2108
01:50:08,319 --> 01:50:13,600
Intercontinental title on the line, Monsoon declaring that he would

2109
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:14,520
retire if he lost.

2110
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,079
Speaker 2: You know it's uh yep.

2111
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 1: He probably got the idea from Bruno and helping fill

2112
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:22,760
the stadium show by saying he'd retire if he lost.

2113
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:27,039
And yeah, he uses a foreign objectis ptearing that match?

2114
01:50:27,119 --> 01:50:29,920
Blast Gorilla when the ref isn't looking, covers him for

2115
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,560
the one two three, and Gorilla took to the papers

2116
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:35,720
after the match. Used to have a column in the

2117
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:39,119
Pennsylvania newspaper ins Philly, and he wrote a column about

2118
01:50:39,159 --> 01:50:42,199
how oh yeah he did no shit did he once

2119
01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:45,880
inaccurately reported that Superstar Superstar Graham had passed away and

2120
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:49,239
never bothered to retract it. It was it was his

2121
01:50:49,359 --> 01:50:52,560
case fab as it came, and he wrote in his column,

2122
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:54,000
but Tera get in the victory over me in this

2123
01:50:54,079 --> 01:50:56,479
manner was not necessarily what makes me hang it up. Rather,

2124
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:58,600
what happened during the match is what made my mind

2125
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:00,680
up for me. From the opening, Allen, for the next

2126
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,920
ten minutes, I used everything in my arsenal trying to

2127
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:06,279
dethrone Petera. Although hurt and stunned, Petera somehow managed to

2128
01:51:06,319 --> 01:51:08,720
weather the storm. There isn't anything else I know of

2129
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,119
that I might have tried, so I figure I don't

2130
01:51:11,119 --> 01:51:13,359
have in my attack anymore what it takes to beat

2131
01:51:13,399 --> 01:51:16,479
a man of the ability of a ken Paterra little

2132
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,319
Monsoon calling it a career the same year that he

2133
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:22,039
helped make Hulk, and no small part by losing to

2134
01:51:22,159 --> 01:51:25,159
him several times in nineteen eighty, including as we talked

2135
01:51:25,199 --> 01:51:27,800
about a couple of months before the Shay Stadium show

2136
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:31,000
to set up the Andre match. Back to Shay Break

2137
01:51:31,079 --> 01:51:33,600
and Petera's stomping away on Tony Atlas on his throat

2138
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:35,119
and pulling up on the ropes while he does it,

2139
01:51:35,199 --> 01:51:38,359
Monsoon says Petera took the title from Pat Patterson, which

2140
01:51:38,359 --> 01:51:41,520
is an interesting trivia note. The second ever Intercontinental champ ken,

2141
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:44,479
Petera grabs the throat, Tony Atlas breaks free mittal rope,

2142
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:46,600
drops a head butt and sells as much as Petera

2143
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:49,359
does off the impact as us. Yes, he does, helis

2144
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:51,720
with a kind of backhands like sting, a bit like

2145
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:54,600
a trip hammer. Monsoon says, there's a big roundhouse to

2146
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:56,880
the chin, and Petera flare flops for the industry into

2147
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:00,359
the canvas. Tony Atlas hooks up a high delay vertical

2148
01:52:00,399 --> 01:52:05,880
suplex or vertical job as Gorilla puts it. Yeah, Atlas

2149
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:08,479
with a cover that Gorilla Monsoon considers half hazard gets

2150
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:10,720
too so just can't expeak, can't expect to beat Petera

2151
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:14,479
that way. So the dreaded burial there from Monsoon back

2152
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,680
up in an Irish rip and he leaps back to

2153
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,920
a sleeper he's riding. Peterra Potero runs ducks under the

2154
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:25,359
ropes and and he hits the buckling to break the

2155
01:52:26,399 --> 01:52:29,039
sleeper hold. He crawls and drapes his arm over on

2156
01:52:29,119 --> 01:52:31,119
a knocked out Tony Atlas, but he only gets two.

2157
01:52:32,079 --> 01:52:34,159
Monsoon says, you're not going to pint Tony Atlas that way.

2158
01:52:34,199 --> 01:52:36,520
You need him in a more compromising position than that

2159
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,079
considering all the adrenaline flowing through his system right now.

2160
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:41,479
So we get back up with an Irish whip and

2161
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:43,600
Tony Atlas does a high cross off the ropes. As

2162
01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:45,039
soon as he hits the ropes, he takes off and

2163
01:52:45,119 --> 01:52:47,720
gets two back up right forearm sends Ta through the

2164
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:50,720
ropes to the floor, Peterra stomping him out in the

2165
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,760
in the infield area. As Tony Atlist tries to re

2166
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:57,079
enter the fray, he drops Patera to the grass with

2167
01:52:57,159 --> 01:52:58,920
a right to the gut. And the grounds keeper won't

2168
01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,720
be happy about this monsoon as says, as Ken Peterra

2169
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:03,920
gets in and back out, they're both fighting on the

2170
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:07,000
apron and the finish is Ken Peterra slugging Tony at

2171
01:53:07,079 --> 01:53:09,079
Let's over the top rope back into the ring and

2172
01:53:09,119 --> 01:53:11,720
the referee calls for the bell. So what that means

2173
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:14,560
is that Ken Peterra loses by count out because he

2174
01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:17,600
was on the apron when Atlas was in the ring

2175
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:21,399
or was it vice versa, let me see, yeah, or loses.

2176
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 2: But Terra, Yeah, Atlas went by count out, and but

2177
01:53:25,079 --> 01:53:27,640
he's not settled with that. He's not okay with more

2178
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:30,479
gets on the mic and says a bunch of stuff here.

2179
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:58,960
He goes mmm, right, uh, yep. Before a minute, yep.

2180
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:02,600
Speaker 1: Straight talk from Tony. Let's Patera gets back in. Vince

2181
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:04,800
Scram's out of there, but then he leaves again.

2182
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:45,479
Speaker 10: Wrestling podcast He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack

2183
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,000
and m J.

2184
01:54:47,199 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 6: P Soo.

2185
01:54:48,399 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 1: Matches over and uh. Patera grabs a cop and smiles.

2186
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,880
You can see him walking away as he prepares to

2187
01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:59,239
throw a boulder through McDonald's window. As for Tony outen

2188
01:54:59,319 --> 01:55:02,800
times Yeah to Tony Alice, he was once told, according

2189
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,640
to him, that everything we gave to Hulk, we were

2190
01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:09,039
ready to do for you, but it's just uh okay,

2191
01:55:09,119 --> 01:55:09,760
it wouldn't happen.

2192
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:10,079
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2193
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:13,119
Speaker 1: An indication of my popularity, he writes in his book,

2194
01:55:13,199 --> 01:55:15,800
was a photograph in the newspaper the morning following the

2195
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:18,399
August ninth, nineteen eighty Shay Stadium show, which featured the

2196
01:55:18,399 --> 01:55:21,199
blowoff match between Bruno and Larry. More than thirty six

2197
01:55:21,279 --> 01:55:23,399
thousand packed the stadium. I was surprised when there was

2198
01:55:23,439 --> 01:55:25,439
a picture of me in the newspaper the next day.

2199
01:55:26,279 --> 01:55:28,119
I thought they would have used a photo of Bruno,

2200
01:55:28,239 --> 01:55:31,199
Larry or even Andre. For my match against Ken Peter

2201
01:55:31,359 --> 01:55:33,319
that night, I received a payoff of ten grand, the

2202
01:55:33,359 --> 01:55:36,479
biggest payoff of my career. So a big night for

2203
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:39,079
Tony Atlas. Here, as we go back to Foley and

2204
01:55:39,199 --> 01:55:42,600
Cole on the commentary, Johnny Rods introduced in black and

2205
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:46,439
yellow pinstripe trunks. Vince calls him a trimline two hundred

2206
01:55:46,439 --> 01:55:50,479
and forty one pounds. Ivan Putski the opposition. Cole calls

2207
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,399
Putsy another one of those ethnic wrestlers.

2208
01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 2: Uh. I would like to point out that at this point,

2209
01:55:59,359 --> 01:56:04,880
I haven't Putt is thirty nine years old, thoughts.

2210
01:56:05,359 --> 01:56:09,039
Speaker 1: I don't know fountain of youth. I mean it looks

2211
01:56:09,079 --> 01:56:10,720
old in the face, looks young in the body.

2212
01:56:11,359 --> 01:56:16,439
Speaker 2: He looks like he's fifty five. Bricked up yeap to

2213
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:20,439
a degree that this is him when he's losing kind

2214
01:56:20,479 --> 01:56:23,439
of the the baby fat is just kind of the lean,

2215
01:56:24,159 --> 01:56:29,119
muscular look, and it's just not okay. He looks twenty

2216
01:56:29,199 --> 01:56:32,199
years older than he actually is. I mean, think about

2217
01:56:32,199 --> 01:56:36,000
he's younger than us. Oh god, okay, at this point

2218
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:42,079
it's distressing, and he looks like a grandpa. And I've

2219
01:56:42,079 --> 01:56:46,720
also never known a Polish person outside of Ivan Putski

2220
01:56:47,359 --> 01:56:51,960
who is able to tan like it's insane and I

2221
01:56:52,039 --> 01:56:54,640
know he doesn't have any bodies here, but geez, like

2222
01:56:55,119 --> 01:57:00,720
you're that's not I don't understand that at all. He

2223
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:06,680
is constantly a crisp golden brown, the hash brown, and

2224
01:57:07,159 --> 01:57:13,800
like polish people don't do that, he does, I guess.

2225
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:13,880
Speaker 5: So.

2226
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:17,439
Speaker 1: Yep, another one of those athletic wrestlers being featured here.

2227
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 2: Yep.

2228
01:57:18,079 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 1: Indeed, Rod's blindsides him as ref goober to Raman is

2229
01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:24,840
checking on the boots of Putsky. Rod slaps the slaps

2230
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:27,800
him and does a snapmar and drops an elbow. Fully

2231
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:30,520
talks about going to Johnny Rod's school himself in nineteen

2232
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:32,560
eighty five looking for independent work of course in the

2233
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:36,319
Bronx I think or Brooklyn maybe is Johnny Rodge's school,

2234
01:57:36,359 --> 01:57:38,399
and how he ended up working out with Taz at

2235
01:57:38,439 --> 01:57:41,800
the time and ended up saying that Johnny Rodd said

2236
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:44,520
to the class after Fully left that he will never

2237
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:47,640
make it in the business because Fully kicks with his

2238
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:49,960
left foot, and according to Johnny Rodd's that means you

2239
01:57:50,039 --> 01:57:52,680
can't be in the wrestling business, which is a curious

2240
01:57:52,760 --> 01:57:55,239
remark to say the least. But Fully competive.

2241
01:57:55,279 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 2: Well, you know, because you got to you know, and

2242
01:57:57,159 --> 01:58:00,520
you gotta work the left limbs. Yeah, okay, if you're

2243
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:02,680
if you're a lefty, you can't fuck how's that work?

2244
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:06,680
That's over? Forget it can't be a wrestler yep, unless,

2245
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:09,760
of course you do, which is and then and then

2246
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:14,000
now Cole talks about the ladies that dude love, as

2247
01:58:14,079 --> 01:58:17,039
dude love he'd have around him, and at least them

2248
01:58:17,079 --> 01:58:24,399
to talking about Cole's legit news background, which is fascinating.

2249
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:25,760
This whole thing is fascinating.

2250
01:58:26,119 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 4: I still can't believe that you had chicks at one

2251
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:29,039
point in time.

2252
01:58:29,359 --> 01:58:30,119
Speaker 6: They were paid though.

2253
01:58:31,159 --> 01:58:36,000
Speaker 5: Julie, the the gimmicker lady, the one who does the tights.

2254
01:58:36,239 --> 01:58:40,119
My wife ran out there one time, and uh, the

2255
01:58:40,239 --> 01:58:43,199
girl who used to do uh you know, with the

2256
01:58:43,279 --> 01:58:46,359
long hair, who had the great Italian last name, who

2257
01:58:46,479 --> 01:58:50,560
married the guy played Yankees putskeek cover.

2258
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,039
Speaker 6: Terry Philip Petty was her name, remember.

2259
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 4: Her kick out man, Philip Petty.

2260
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:56,239
Speaker 6: I remember Terry.

2261
01:58:56,520 --> 01:58:57,800
Speaker 4: Terry was my first producer.

2262
01:58:58,039 --> 01:58:59,439
Speaker 6: Was she really oh Man?

2263
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:03,560
Speaker 5: Until until catering Lady Jen Hagg came around. I think

2264
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:07,680
that Terry was my favorite backstage presence had a dream

2265
01:59:07,680 --> 01:59:08,439
about her one time.

2266
01:59:08,479 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 3: I wonder if CNN was covering this showdown at Shay

2267
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:13,760
since this is the first year that CNN went on

2268
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:14,760
the air at nineteen eight.

2269
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:16,399
Speaker 6: Did they did? Indeed they did.

2270
01:59:17,079 --> 01:59:20,880
Speaker 3: His wolf Blitzer at written side as Johnny Rods. He

2271
01:59:21,039 --> 01:59:23,880
is in trouble against I haven't putski Michael.

2272
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 6: Why don't you ever talk about your legitimate news.

2273
01:59:26,439 --> 01:59:28,479
Speaker 4: Background because no one cares.

2274
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 5: I care, and I think our fans would care to

2275
01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:34,880
know that you covered uh really important events in the world,

2276
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:36,439
the genocide in Rwanda.

2277
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:40,479
Speaker 4: Yes, I covered the uh Berlin wall coming down. Actually

2278
01:59:40,479 --> 01:59:42,720
still have a picture a piece of that in my office.

2279
01:59:43,199 --> 01:59:45,680
Speaker 5: I mean, granted, that's not as important as Putsky bear

2280
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:46,439
hugging Rods.

2281
01:59:48,319 --> 01:59:50,079
Speaker 2: What the fuck is going on with these two?

2282
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:50,960
Speaker 9: What?

2283
01:59:51,239 --> 01:59:51,279
Speaker 5: What?

2284
01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 6: Like?

2285
01:59:53,159 --> 01:59:55,239
Speaker 2: What happens? Tell us more about the wrestlers? You know,

2286
01:59:55,359 --> 01:59:57,600
what are you doing? Nope, Nope, I need to talk

2287
01:59:57,640 --> 02:00:01,520
about news that is part of Michael Cole's story. That's

2288
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:04,680
pretty fascinating that I have no doubt about it, and

2289
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:08,239
I'm sure it is fascinating. What place does it have

2290
02:00:08,439 --> 02:00:09,439
on a fake sports show?

2291
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 6: Right?

2292
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 2: This is the reason he doesn't put ww in his resume.

2293
02:00:13,039 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure he does exactly. He's not going anywhere anyway,

2294
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:20,319
right right, he doesn't even have a resume. So Putski

2295
02:00:20,359 --> 02:00:23,520
grabs a side headlock and throws shorthands. Rods collapses, lands

2296
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:26,079
in the middle rope headlock, push off tackle for Putski.

2297
02:00:26,159 --> 02:00:28,720
Both fall down. Putski gets a two count, though Rods

2298
02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:30,840
pushes off a knee of the gut, great leg drop

2299
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:33,479
and a big elbow from Johnny Rod's Cole wonders the

2300
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:36,680
CNN thing. Yes, Rods comes off the middle, rope, comes

2301
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:41,159
to some flying head stomps. Rods leaps into Putsky's bear hug.

2302
02:00:41,319 --> 02:00:43,159
We get a tight shot of Johnny Rodd's suffering in

2303
02:00:43,199 --> 02:00:46,079
the hold. Short poke of the eyes to break Putsky

2304
02:00:46,159 --> 02:00:49,600
with a headlock over the top. He's huffing and puffing.

2305
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:52,760
You can tell this guy's on a fucking ventilater pretty

2306
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:54,800
soon at this rate.

2307
02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:57,760
Speaker 2: He lifts, yeah, seriously, so much.

2308
02:00:57,680 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 1: Gas lifts Rods again in a bear hug. I wonder

2309
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:03,239
Hogan dropped the hold and stopped doing it. Yeah, right, exactly,

2310
02:01:03,680 --> 02:01:06,000
and then Rods with elbows to get free, and he does.

2311
02:01:06,359 --> 02:01:08,079
He scoops and slams Putsky.

2312
02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:11,520
Speaker 2: And then Foley hits one. I don't know. I probably

2313
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:13,640
would have done this back in the day. I don't

2314
02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:15,359
think I would have to do it in my old

2315
02:01:15,439 --> 02:01:17,319
age now, but definitely back in the day I would

2316
02:01:17,319 --> 02:01:18,039
have said something like this.

2317
02:01:18,399 --> 02:01:20,960
Speaker 4: Actually, I called the play by play with a dead

2318
02:01:21,039 --> 02:01:21,760
New York mets pit.

2319
02:01:22,039 --> 02:01:22,840
Speaker 2: Not that one. This one.

2320
02:01:23,159 --> 02:01:26,079
Speaker 5: I think you need to work some Rwandan genocide references

2321
02:01:26,159 --> 02:01:28,119
into raw on a regular basis.

2322
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:34,279
Speaker 2: He no sells that one, doesn't He yeah, totally, just

2323
02:01:34,359 --> 02:01:39,319
fucking like, just lets it linger. I love that.

2324
02:01:40,399 --> 02:01:43,199
Speaker 1: A big leap and a splash missus for Rods, and

2325
02:01:43,239 --> 02:01:45,159
Putsky goes off with the rights and lefts you know what.

2326
02:01:45,279 --> 02:01:47,439
Time it is Polish hammer time. And it looks great.

2327
02:01:48,319 --> 02:01:51,239
The Polish hammer looks great. It's listen, it's it's one

2328
02:01:51,239 --> 02:01:54,039
of the great. It's one of the great simple holds.

2329
02:01:54,279 --> 02:01:56,079
I don't know why other people haven't used it. I

2330
02:01:56,119 --> 02:01:58,079
don't know why it doesn't make a comeback. It's simple,

2331
02:01:58,439 --> 02:02:00,960
it's effective, and it looks brutal. It's brutally throws that

2332
02:02:01,159 --> 02:02:04,800
huge double fist right Rod's pats him down.

2333
02:02:05,199 --> 02:02:05,840
Speaker 2: One, two three.

2334
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:09,960
Speaker 1: New York Territory mainstay Ivan Putsky collects his payday and

2335
02:02:10,039 --> 02:02:13,399
his spot on this huge showdown at Shea, defeating perennial

2336
02:02:13,520 --> 02:02:17,560
territorial jobber Johnny Rods here just four minutes and forty

2337
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:22,439
seven seconds. Like Hogan said, the Polish power Polish hammer

2338
02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:25,720
just as much an influence for the Axi Bomba as

2339
02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:27,960
Stan Hanson's lariat. At least that's what he was saying

2340
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:31,359
to Japanese magazines. After Stan Hansen left New Japan for

2341
02:02:31,439 --> 02:02:34,680
All Japan, we jumped down to renegule A speaking of

2342
02:02:34,720 --> 02:02:38,319
Hogan's past and the Hangman. Hanging Man, of course, Jean Nilguai,

2343
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:42,239
a longtime Montreal and Canadian wrestler. We've talked a lot

2344
02:02:42,279 --> 02:02:47,279
about him over the course of Athlete. They don't know

2345
02:02:47,319 --> 02:02:48,600
who he is on commentary.

2346
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:51,199
Speaker 2: Actually, I mean I never Actually I'll tell you. I

2347
02:02:51,319 --> 02:02:55,560
know I never told you this, But I used to wrestle. Oh, Yes,

2348
02:02:56,600 --> 02:03:01,600
I was the Hangman, Yes, a year before I was born.

2349
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:04,520
Speaker 1: After announcing the participants, we get a glimpse of Vince's

2350
02:03:04,760 --> 02:03:06,920
steel chair seat right behind the announced table. You can

2351
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:12,239
see him sitting down. He's just an interested observer. Funny

2352
02:03:12,319 --> 02:03:14,199
to think of Vin's not really being a VIP and

2353
02:03:14,319 --> 02:03:16,399
just sitting there on the grass and a building chair.

2354
02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:19,159
Speaker 2: Then he just is just to my favorite, just do

2355
02:03:19,239 --> 02:03:22,119
the fuckinge they're re announcing and the ship shut the

2356
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:25,840
waiting for the match, fuck down, shut the fuck up,

2357
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:31,600
Shut the fuck up that whatever it is you think

2358
02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:34,960
is best for business, I am here too completely.

2359
02:03:35,239 --> 02:03:35,760
Speaker 8: Uh uh.

2360
02:03:37,399 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 2: Push ahead with the vision you have and to create

2361
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:47,840
the synergetic network of the World Wrestling Entertainment. Great well, great,

2362
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:50,600
all right, I'm so glad. Then all right, Vince, it's

2363
02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:54,479
that I don't know what. It's not entertainment, all right,

2364
02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:58,760
there's no wardrousting entertainment, all right, it's ward rushing federation

2365
02:03:59,039 --> 02:04:02,199
trying to piss me off, saying that I see, I see,

2366
02:04:02,479 --> 02:04:08,239
well be the I understand and I believe. Go moving forward.

2367
02:04:08,239 --> 02:04:12,479
I will indeed call this company World Wrestling entertain Leave

2368
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:20,000
going forward. I will, indeed. Sounds like a commitment, doesn't it, Mannie,

2369
02:04:20,119 --> 02:04:24,720
I said, call it World Wrestling Federation. Yes, and that's

2370
02:04:24,840 --> 02:04:26,960
exactly what I said I would do, Dad Pop, I

2371
02:04:27,039 --> 02:04:31,600
will call the company again henceforth, moving forward, I will

2372
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:39,560
indeed proclaim our corporate entity to be World Wrestling Entertainment.

2373
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:41,239
Thanks for nothing.

2374
02:04:43,159 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 6: I'm going.

2375
02:04:47,319 --> 02:04:50,119
Speaker 1: Rene Gola versus the Hangman just to keep your spirits up.

2376
02:04:52,199 --> 02:04:54,319
Lock up to the corner. Hang man misses the right hand.

2377
02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:57,880
Guley is quick on the move. Hip toss is a

2378
02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:01,079
drop kick by Gulay. What a goofy look guy with

2379
02:05:01,239 --> 02:05:04,680
his hair flowing on both sides but a receding hairline

2380
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:05,319
at the same time.

2381
02:05:07,119 --> 02:05:15,399
Speaker 2: And here is Colon Foley talking about Al Lighter, okay,

2382
02:05:15,479 --> 02:05:21,079
which leads into another bizarre one upsmanship thing that they do.

2383
02:05:22,399 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 3: Actually, I called the play by play with a then

2384
02:05:25,039 --> 02:05:26,680
New York Met's picture Al Lighter.

2385
02:05:26,520 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 6: Al Lighter, And I've gone on to know Al well.

2386
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:30,880
Do you know where I see Al frequently? Where? At

2387
02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:32,359
Springsteen concerts? Yeah?

2388
02:05:32,399 --> 02:05:33,800
Speaker 4: Al is a huge Springsteen fan.

2389
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:36,760
Speaker 3: In fact joined him on stage for Glory Days at

2390
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:37,840
one of the Shay Stadium.

2391
02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:40,880
Speaker 4: You joined Bruce on so Al Lighter did he joined?

2392
02:05:41,079 --> 02:05:41,479
Speaker 6: Did you know?

2393
02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:44,079
Speaker 5: I joined Twisted Sister on stage for We're not going

2394
02:05:44,159 --> 02:05:47,520
to take it really to benefit the people who were

2395
02:05:48,399 --> 02:05:51,680
you know, killed and injured in that terrible station fire

2396
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:52,680
incident in Providence.

2397
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:55,199
Speaker 3: Well, I joined John Cena on stage to sing his

2398
02:05:55,319 --> 02:05:57,439
theme song in San Antonio with the Red.

2399
02:05:57,359 --> 02:05:58,119
Speaker 2: Dowks was going on?

2400
02:05:58,239 --> 02:06:01,000
Speaker 6: Is that true? Yep? Karaoke let me try to top that.

2401
02:06:03,399 --> 02:06:05,119
Speaker 4: Come on, and I've sung.

2402
02:06:05,199 --> 02:06:09,800
Speaker 3: I've sang with Pat Patterson too, I did Chester, England

2403
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:11,680
and you know what we sang? What we sang a

2404
02:06:12,079 --> 02:06:15,039
song by Queen which actually I cannot even believe this,

2405
02:06:15,359 --> 02:06:18,239
and this is complete truth, Pat Patterson, how.

2406
02:06:18,159 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 6: You're disregarding the hangman goulet matchup? To tell your personal an, Pat.

2407
02:06:21,720 --> 02:06:25,520
Speaker 3: Patterson, I actually sang Another One Bites the Dust in

2408
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:28,560
a Manchester bar karaoke, which actually happened to be a

2409
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:32,039
song from nineteen eighty with a.

2410
02:06:32,039 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 4: Showdown at say took.

2411
02:06:33,119 --> 02:06:35,960
Speaker 6: You know, it's amazing some of those songs that were

2412
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:37,079
popular today, like.

2413
02:06:38,600 --> 02:06:41,279
Speaker 5: Another One Bites the Dust or ac DC songs or

2414
02:06:41,279 --> 02:06:44,520
even Abba have h so well, whereas matches like this

2415
02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:46,720
have an age show well the.

2416
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:48,199
Speaker 4: Hangman with the covering.

2417
02:06:49,439 --> 02:06:53,920
Speaker 2: Fuckinges in on it. So stupid, man, it's so sad,

2418
02:06:53,960 --> 02:06:58,119
that's how they I I can't even handle it.

2419
02:06:58,640 --> 02:07:01,199
Speaker 1: Lay with the hiptos and a dropkick, goofy looking guy,

2420
02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:05,720
arm drag arm bar hangman rakes the eyes. Let's see

2421
02:07:06,119 --> 02:07:08,159
Gula is able to arm drag free and runs into

2422
02:07:08,159 --> 02:07:10,800
when need of the gut. But again, and this era,

2423
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:12,800
when you take a shot to the gut. You flat back,

2424
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:14,800
and that's just what he does.

2425
02:07:15,239 --> 02:07:17,399
Speaker 2: You flat back or you go or you go to hell.

2426
02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:19,760
Speaker 1: Fully with a funny line, how dare you renee Glay

2427
02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:21,840
give right young wrestlers any advice with a match like

2428
02:07:21,920 --> 02:07:25,560
this in your past, Cole says, Hogan, Andre is still

2429
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:27,880
to come, and you thought they never met before WrestleMania three.

2430
02:07:28,359 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 4: I got that one too here for you well, still

2431
02:07:31,600 --> 02:07:33,119
to comment showed down at Shaye Mick.

2432
02:07:33,199 --> 02:07:36,239
Speaker 3: We got Andre the Giant versus Hult Cogan and you

2433
02:07:36,319 --> 02:07:38,640
thought they never met before wrestle Mania three.

2434
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 6: Oh, this is really a historic matchup.

2435
02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:43,439
Speaker 5: Hogan was new to w BFF at that time, under

2436
02:07:43,479 --> 02:07:46,920
the tutelage of Classy Freddy Blasty the Hollywood fashion.

2437
02:07:46,640 --> 02:07:49,880
Speaker 1: Plate called us say he kind of remembers the Larry

2438
02:07:50,159 --> 02:07:52,520
Bruno feud unfoldings, So apparently he was watching a bit

2439
02:07:52,560 --> 02:07:54,920
in nineteen eighty They mentioned that Pope John Paul the

2440
02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:57,399
Second came in nineteen seventy nine for prayer service at

2441
02:07:57,479 --> 02:08:00,720
Shay Stadium. Cole asks, fully the people would think of

2442
02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:05,880
this match, I think he would be okay silence, yes,

2443
02:08:06,479 --> 02:08:10,800
So another Pope record they had to break before eighty seven. Yeah,

2444
02:08:11,079 --> 02:08:13,319
gallet arm drags, free hits, a right hand, a snapmaron

2445
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:15,760
and a big stomp front face lock and a Judo

2446
02:08:15,800 --> 02:08:18,399
Hiptos style cover for two on Hangman Cole asks, is

2447
02:08:18,439 --> 02:08:20,520
this what they would call the popcorn match? Fully says,

2448
02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:22,399
there's an ebb and flow of a card, and I

2449
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:24,520
questioned some of the decisions here to put this one on,

2450
02:08:25,039 --> 02:08:26,640
but yes, this is the match where you would go

2451
02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:29,359
get your refreshments. Hang Man, with a head of arm

2452
02:08:29,439 --> 02:08:32,199
standing choke, fully says, this is one of those matches

2453
02:08:33,439 --> 02:08:35,720
that did not put thirty six thousand people in here.

2454
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:40,119
Speaker 2: You know, we don't know this did We ask everybody

2455
02:08:40,279 --> 02:08:43,680
in Chase Aiden who who they came to say, it's

2456
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:45,039
got to be one fan that bought a ticket to

2457
02:08:45,039 --> 02:08:45,600
see this match.

2458
02:08:47,640 --> 02:08:47,800
Speaker 6: Fan.

2459
02:08:48,359 --> 02:08:50,560
Speaker 2: I imagine there's one fan who was like, this is

2460
02:08:51,199 --> 02:08:53,880
I have been following this program for months and I

2461
02:08:54,039 --> 02:08:56,560
need to know how it ends in at the corner

2462
02:08:56,680 --> 02:08:58,119
and there's no other match that matters.

2463
02:08:59,720 --> 02:09:01,359
Speaker 1: Hang of course brought a noose to the ring and

2464
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:04,640
Guley is fiddling with it a bit, and Hangman lifts

2465
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:06,920
gulay like a shoulder throw almost and runs to the

2466
02:09:06,960 --> 02:09:09,720
corner and tucks his head, so Gule goes into the

2467
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:13,439
buckle galley with a double leg, floats over, drops an elbow. Well,

2468
02:09:13,479 --> 02:09:15,840
Cole talks about how I got ringside a photographer looks

2469
02:09:15,880 --> 02:09:17,079
like Robert Downey Jr.

2470
02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:22,479
Speaker 2: Well, there there's some there's some serendipity right there.

2471
02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 1: The snapmare. They discussed Carl Gotch, who of course held

2472
02:09:25,840 --> 02:09:29,079
the WWF Tag Team Championships with Renee Gulay, and they

2473
02:09:29,119 --> 02:09:29,640
talk about his.

2474
02:09:29,720 --> 02:09:31,319
Speaker 2: Oh, I actually think I have that, I have the

2475
02:09:32,439 --> 02:09:36,399
I have the uh the RDJ reference here home on.

2476
02:09:36,680 --> 02:09:37,960
Speaker 3: I was going to point out that there is a

2477
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:40,840
gentleman at ringside holding a camera and we may there.

2478
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:42,119
You see him right there on the right part of

2479
02:09:42,159 --> 02:09:43,920
your screen, a young Robert Downey.

2480
02:09:43,720 --> 02:09:46,359
Speaker 4: Junior before his Iron Man days.

2481
02:09:47,119 --> 02:09:53,000
Speaker 3: Was that the showdown at Shay Thanks Michael Will Chamberlain

2482
02:09:53,079 --> 02:09:54,079
in the background there as well.

2483
02:09:55,079 --> 02:09:58,039
Speaker 2: He doesn't stop, does he? I mean he's he's he's

2484
02:09:58,119 --> 02:09:58,800
worse than I am.

2485
02:10:00,079 --> 02:10:02,800
Speaker 1: Hangman with the body slam. Cole says, hangman's precursor of

2486
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:05,840
failed gimmick is repo man. Yes, he says he's a

2487
02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:08,520
precursor of repo man. Foley says, how do you figure

2488
02:10:08,560 --> 02:10:10,239
and Cole's at a loss. I don't know because he

2489
02:10:10,279 --> 02:10:11,880
carries the fucking rope around.

2490
02:10:12,600 --> 02:10:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah right, how are you thinking that.

2491
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:17,079
Speaker 1: Hayman cranks the chinlock? Cole says, I don't know why

2492
02:10:17,199 --> 02:10:19,760
Hangman was not part of the recent gimmick battle Royal.

2493
02:10:20,439 --> 02:10:24,800
Speaker 2: Good question. Guy's probably dead. Let's see you. I don't know.

2494
02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:29,119
Speaker 1: Renegelae is going to sleep here as much as the

2495
02:10:29,159 --> 02:10:31,520
thirty six thousand fans at shay har Cole says that

2496
02:10:31,600 --> 02:10:35,720
was a good line. Fully talks about how people can

2497
02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:37,640
fast forward through things they don't want to see on

2498
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:40,319
WW twenty four to seven. So don't worry what you

2499
02:10:40,399 --> 02:10:43,000
say will probably never be heard because people will be

2500
02:10:43,079 --> 02:10:46,359
fast forwarding through this matchup. Galt's building up to some

2501
02:10:46,479 --> 02:10:50,399
tepid colaps, Cole says, listening to the crowd, almost ironically,

2502
02:10:51,079 --> 02:10:53,640
Polly says this reminds him of the Simon and Garfunkle's

2503
02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:58,279
song Sounds of Silence, and he starts talking about how

2504
02:10:58,319 --> 02:11:01,319
in nineteen eighty there were windfall tax there were taxes

2505
02:11:01,359 --> 02:11:05,520
on windfall oil profits. He's literally reading off like Wikipedia.

2506
02:11:06,079 --> 02:11:09,359
As some renege fights back, it's a body slam goes

2507
02:11:09,399 --> 02:11:11,439
to the top rope gets cut off and tossed with

2508
02:11:11,479 --> 02:11:14,279
a gorilla press slam for two by the Hangman, whipping

2509
02:11:14,319 --> 02:11:16,960
a high boot by the Hangman, who's innovating the big

2510
02:11:17,039 --> 02:11:21,039
boot before the hulkster. Cole says he'll miss the blue

2511
02:11:21,079 --> 02:11:25,399
and orange seats and the rat infested dugouts at Shay

2512
02:11:25,479 --> 02:11:28,760
Stadium as Hangman lifts and drops Rene a throte first

2513
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:31,279
on the top rope from a gorilla press position, and

2514
02:11:31,399 --> 02:11:33,159
that's good enough for the one, the two, and the three,

2515
02:11:33,880 --> 02:11:36,479
thank god. Then it's one second. The Hangman hangs us

2516
02:11:36,479 --> 02:11:37,880
out to dry by defeating Rene.

2517
02:11:37,960 --> 02:11:42,359
Speaker 2: Gula or Evince calls him the Hangman. The Hangman, Yes,

2518
02:11:42,479 --> 02:11:43,279
the Hangman.

2519
02:11:43,319 --> 02:11:47,600
Speaker 1: Is, and we transition to why we're here. Live crowd

2520
02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:50,680
noise is overwhelming the feed. Did you have commentary on

2521
02:11:50,760 --> 02:11:51,520
your hogan Andre?

2522
02:11:51,680 --> 02:11:55,560
Speaker 2: I did not? I did, I did. I watched. I watched.

2523
02:11:56,439 --> 02:12:00,199
I watched one from the w vault, which has the

2524
02:12:00,399 --> 02:12:01,880
cold and Folly commentary.

2525
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:05,600
Speaker 1: Okay, good, I have just you know, atmospherics, so yeah,

2526
02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:07,680
I'm not going to necessarily be able to cueue them up.

2527
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:11,319
But it's nice to watch this just with natural crowd noise.

2528
02:12:11,399 --> 02:12:15,840
Because I watched it both I watched both good pretty

2529
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:18,640
strong sense right of Hogan. I mean he he is jeered,

2530
02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:21,439
he is hated, he is Yes, he provokes a very

2531
02:12:21,439 --> 02:12:22,680
strong reaction compared to.

2532
02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:27,199
Speaker 2: The reactions we've heard, especially against Andreye for sure. Yeah.

2533
02:12:27,279 --> 02:12:29,800
Speaker 1: There he is Hogan with his cape on, marching on

2534
02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:34,039
the grass Gold Cape, huge course, abooze, with Fred Blassie

2535
02:12:34,119 --> 02:12:36,800
leading the way with his cane on, and all Gold

2536
02:12:37,600 --> 02:12:40,600
police officers on both of their sides. The hulkster walking

2537
02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:45,239
in to Shay Stadium against Andre, the giant red and

2538
02:12:45,359 --> 02:12:48,840
yellow as we talked about on the gear, Andre Chance

2539
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:52,680
firing at Hogan. Vince McMahon himself is personally in the

2540
02:12:52,760 --> 02:12:55,279
ring witnessing this all taking shape. It's just amazing to

2541
02:12:55,359 --> 02:12:58,960
think that he's bearing direct witness to Hogan's first slam

2542
02:12:59,039 --> 02:13:01,479
of Andrea, and so even years later, finds a way

2543
02:13:02,239 --> 02:13:04,520
I think we can he convince the whole world they've

2544
02:13:04,600 --> 02:13:08,039
never seen anything like it. Andre gets up on the

2545
02:13:08,079 --> 02:13:11,520
apron and my god is his frizzy chia pet hair.

2546
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:14,840
Oh it's it's it's an approach compromise by this New

2547
02:13:14,960 --> 02:13:15,600
York commodity.

2548
02:13:16,399 --> 02:13:17,239
Speaker 2: It's just awful.

2549
02:13:17,560 --> 02:13:21,960
Speaker 1: One fall twenty minutes. Gilbert to Ramanas signed last he's introduced,

2550
02:13:22,039 --> 02:13:23,920
gets his hands up to a big course of booze,

2551
02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:26,840
gets in the ring for this one, Unlike recent tapings

2552
02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:28,800
we've been watching where he doesn't even bother getting in

2553
02:13:28,880 --> 02:13:31,319
the ring for Hulky makes sure to get in the

2554
02:13:31,399 --> 02:13:34,920
ring for Shay Stadium from Venice Beach, tipping the scales

2555
02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:37,880
this morn, just this morning, Vince McMahon says, as a

2556
02:13:37,960 --> 02:13:40,399
ring announcer. At three hundred and thirty nine pounds, Hulk

2557
02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:45,199
Hogan Any points at his future cash cow. Indeed extends

2558
02:13:45,279 --> 02:13:50,039
his cape and revealing some purple inside. The gold sideburns

2559
02:13:50,079 --> 02:13:52,720
are coming in a bit black, so we're watching that closely.

2560
02:13:52,800 --> 02:13:55,600
On Terry Bolet and he's still wearing the black right

2561
02:13:55,720 --> 02:13:58,880
elbow pad in case there's a need for loaded axie

2562
02:13:58,880 --> 02:14:02,199
boomba and the white miss tape from Grenoble, France. Four

2563
02:14:02,319 --> 02:14:05,119
hundred and eighty seven point five pounds, The eighth Wonder

2564
02:14:05,159 --> 02:14:08,119
of the World, Andre the Giant, and the hands are

2565
02:14:08,199 --> 02:14:10,119
up in the crowd. It's pumping their fists and very

2566
02:14:10,199 --> 02:14:12,199
happy to see the great attraction.

2567
02:14:11,920 --> 02:14:16,079
Speaker 2: That was Andre the Giant. Folly on this he reads

2568
02:14:16,159 --> 02:14:18,279
my fucking mind and comments on the two guys who

2569
02:14:18,319 --> 02:14:20,159
are wandering shirtless at ringside.

2570
02:14:21,439 --> 02:14:25,279
Speaker 5: These two shirtless guys wandering in, well, where are they're credentials?

2571
02:14:25,359 --> 02:14:30,399
Speaker 6: I just wonder how does somebody get a standing perch

2572
02:14:30,640 --> 02:14:32,079
like that without wearing a shirt.

2573
02:14:32,840 --> 02:14:34,840
Speaker 5: Kevin Dunn would have that guy ejected from the building

2574
02:14:34,840 --> 02:14:36,319
almost immediately these days.

2575
02:14:38,239 --> 02:14:41,760
Speaker 1: Yes, he would shout out to Kevin Dunn. Yeah, like

2576
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:46,039
the wrestler's doing triple h Shaun Michael's tripper response, exactly,

2577
02:14:46,680 --> 02:14:51,079
keeping yourself in good graces. So Blassie on the bottom

2578
02:14:51,119 --> 02:14:53,600
rope getting them going. Is Hogan and Andrea face off

2579
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:56,560
in the middle, Hogan's eyes darting around quite a bit.

2580
02:14:57,319 --> 02:15:00,560
He takes his way over to Blassy whispers something into

2581
02:15:00,640 --> 02:15:03,600
his ear, does Blassie and taps him on the shoulder,

2582
02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:05,600
sends him into battle man. But I love to know

2583
02:15:06,279 --> 02:15:08,079
what it was that Frank Blassie would say in a

2584
02:15:08,159 --> 02:15:11,680
hulk Cogan's ears when they did that, if anything, And.

2585
02:15:11,880 --> 02:15:16,680
Speaker 2: Let's go get a goddamn sandwich after this. And here

2586
02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:19,640
it is, let's go get a hogy for Hogan. I

2587
02:15:19,880 --> 02:15:20,479
mean here it is.

2588
02:15:21,159 --> 02:15:24,479
Speaker 1: They stand there in the center motionless for a while.

2589
02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:29,199
They really milk it. Hogan Andre face to face, figuring

2590
02:15:29,239 --> 02:15:31,640
out how to make this as intense as possible as

2591
02:15:31,680 --> 02:15:35,600
they go, and it's awesome. They lock up a wide

2592
02:15:35,720 --> 02:15:38,279
base and Andre pushes off Hogan to a corner and

2593
02:15:38,319 --> 02:15:40,640
they got a big pop for that. Hogan yanks down

2594
02:15:40,680 --> 02:15:43,560
on the ropes and frustration another lock up. The Hulkster

2595
02:15:43,680 --> 02:15:47,079
goes to a headlock. Great tight shots of Andre and

2596
02:15:47,159 --> 02:15:51,279
his facial expressions, Hogan cranking the standing headlock. Andre lifts

2597
02:15:51,319 --> 02:15:53,840
up the Hulkster for a second and the crowd responds

2598
02:15:53,880 --> 02:15:56,479
to that, but Andre drops him down and Hogan keeps

2599
02:15:56,520 --> 02:15:59,920
cranking on the headlock. Andre then pushes off. There's an

2600
02:16:00,039 --> 02:16:03,600
midring collision. Neither Hulk or Andre budge the face off,

2601
02:16:04,119 --> 02:16:05,640
so similar to WrestleMania three.

2602
02:16:06,079 --> 02:16:06,840
Speaker 2: It is it is.

2603
02:16:07,399 --> 02:16:09,439
Speaker 1: It's just the rolls reverse in terms of who the

2604
02:16:09,479 --> 02:16:12,680
crowds are rooting for, but they're really running the same playbook.

2605
02:16:13,199 --> 02:16:15,680
Hogan's mouth is a gape at the fact that Andre

2606
02:16:15,760 --> 02:16:18,600
didn't budge in that collision. Now it's Andre to the side,

2607
02:16:18,640 --> 02:16:21,840
headlock off, the lock up, push off. Andre hits the

2608
02:16:21,960 --> 02:16:25,399
ropes and bowls into Hogan, and while Hogan backs up

2609
02:16:25,399 --> 02:16:29,319
a few inches, it's still a stalemate. After Andrey is

2610
02:16:29,439 --> 02:16:32,319
the one on the charge, Hogan ducks under the rope

2611
02:16:32,360 --> 02:16:35,639
to get some more counsel from Blassi. Hogan was adjusting

2612
02:16:35,680 --> 02:16:38,360
the waistband of his trunks even back then, which he

2613
02:16:38,399 --> 02:16:40,920
would do for the rest of his life, so that

2614
02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:47,360
waistband goes over the belly button. Oh yep, yep, walk up, Andre, gimmick, dude, absolutely,

2615
02:16:48,079 --> 02:16:49,760
and they did the spot on some of the other

2616
02:16:49,799 --> 02:16:51,360
matches They had a nineteen eighty that were able to

2617
02:16:51,399 --> 02:16:53,520
watch on tape, including the one in Philadelphia. The standing

2618
02:16:53,559 --> 02:16:55,959
bow and arrow submission that Andre would do holding the

2619
02:16:56,079 --> 02:16:58,520
arms off to the side behind Hogan. He puts that on,

2620
02:16:59,040 --> 02:17:02,120
digging his head between the shoulder blades, and Hogan is grimacing,

2621
02:17:02,520 --> 02:17:04,840
allowing for a great shot for the photographers and the

2622
02:17:04,920 --> 02:17:09,200
cameramen with Andrea towering behind Hogan and Hogan just like

2623
02:17:09,639 --> 02:17:12,680
shrinking in front of Andrea with this look of mortification

2624
02:17:12,959 --> 02:17:16,280
on his face. As Andrea's cranking the arms behind him.

2625
02:17:17,000 --> 02:17:19,040
Andre even is able to lift one of his feet

2626
02:17:19,159 --> 02:17:22,440
up and put it between Hogan's shoulder blades and balance

2627
02:17:22,680 --> 02:17:28,399
his entire massive body on just one foot. It's normal behavior, right,

2628
02:17:28,479 --> 02:17:30,760
a thing the sea is Andre flexing a bit, if

2629
02:17:30,799 --> 02:17:33,920
you will, for the big crowd here and showing what

2630
02:17:34,040 --> 02:17:36,200
he can do. This, of course, before the nineteen eighty

2631
02:17:36,239 --> 02:17:40,000
one ankle injury would make that a very advised move.

2632
02:17:40,399 --> 02:17:42,959
Andre to the arms now, almost as if he's trying

2633
02:17:43,000 --> 02:17:45,920
to Hulk hold Hulk open for someone else to hit Hulk.

2634
02:17:46,440 --> 02:17:49,760
Hulk looking down at his arms like he he's scanning

2635
02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:52,799
them and thinking the ways to counter, and slowly he does.

2636
02:17:52,879 --> 02:17:56,600
He starts to turn around the standing bow and arrow submission,

2637
02:17:56,639 --> 02:17:59,159
but Andre goes with the momentum and keeps rolling and

2638
02:17:59,319 --> 02:18:02,879
ends up backing control of Hogan, regains control of both

2639
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:05,879
risks behind Hogan. Hulk then backs him into a corner

2640
02:18:05,959 --> 02:18:08,200
to break the hold. He throws a right hand in

2641
02:18:08,239 --> 02:18:11,719
frustration and Andre throws back. Enough wrestling here. Hulk is

2642
02:18:11,799 --> 02:18:14,079
now begging off and the crowd is with it. A

2643
02:18:14,239 --> 02:18:16,799
huge headbutt by Andre and the crowd loves that as well.

2644
02:18:17,479 --> 02:18:19,799
Hogan cowers in the corner, ducking under the ropes and

2645
02:18:19,799 --> 02:18:21,040
grabs a bear hug on Andre.

2646
02:18:21,639 --> 02:18:22,479
Speaker 2: What Andre looks to.

2647
02:18:22,479 --> 02:18:25,040
Speaker 1: Close the distance, He's cranking Andre Chancer going off.

2648
02:18:25,639 --> 02:18:29,920
Speaker 2: Yes, Cole and Foley talk about talk about the importance

2649
02:18:29,959 --> 02:18:32,959
of Hogan and Andre, and well just listen to them.

2650
02:18:33,760 --> 02:18:39,799
Speaker 3: These two stars Mick really responsible for turning the WWE

2651
02:18:39,959 --> 02:18:43,319
from a small territorial promotion into a global phenomenon, both

2652
02:18:43,399 --> 02:18:46,280
Andre the forerunner and then of course Hogan to follow

2653
02:18:46,319 --> 02:18:47,000
in his footsteps.

2654
02:18:47,079 --> 02:18:48,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'd say that that matchup they had a

2655
02:18:48,959 --> 02:18:52,000
WrestleMania three was as responsible as any matchup in the

2656
02:18:52,159 --> 02:18:55,799
history of ww in creating that global phenomenon.

2657
02:18:56,200 --> 02:19:02,799
Speaker 2: Sure, there it is, Yes, I I I agree. I

2658
02:19:03,040 --> 02:19:05,200
don't know if I would call w at this point

2659
02:19:05,520 --> 02:19:06,600
a small territory.

2660
02:19:06,879 --> 02:19:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a pretty full baseball stadium, man, Yeah, pretty

2661
02:19:10,239 --> 02:19:10,760
full baseball.

2662
02:19:10,840 --> 02:19:13,440
Speaker 2: I mean they were, They were kind of running a

2663
02:19:14,760 --> 02:19:19,159
large portion of the Northeast, So I just don't consider

2664
02:19:19,200 --> 02:19:21,319
that to be small potatoes. Yeah.

2665
02:19:21,360 --> 02:19:24,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's got to be for the for the narrative

2666
02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:27,280
to hold, you know, that goes Yes, I see some

2667
02:19:27,600 --> 02:19:31,120
black back hair on Hulk Hogan's back, some tight shots,

2668
02:19:31,159 --> 02:19:32,639
so alarm bells going off there.

2669
02:19:33,040 --> 02:19:34,319
Speaker 2: It's got to be at it's got to be a

2670
02:19:34,360 --> 02:19:36,399
Hollywood thing, got to be a Hollywood thing.

2671
02:19:36,479 --> 02:19:39,680
Speaker 1: I took him to correct that. Andre grabs the head

2672
02:19:39,959 --> 02:19:41,559
and hits a huge head butt trying to get out

2673
02:19:41,559 --> 02:19:44,280
of the bear hug. You can hear the crowd go yeah.

2674
02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:47,280
As Andre lands as Hulk dropped and hits the floor

2675
02:19:47,479 --> 02:19:50,440
with his arm draped over Blassy looking for refuge glass.

2676
02:19:50,479 --> 02:19:54,520
He's barking at the referee, inventing some some grievance. Hulk

2677
02:19:54,559 --> 02:19:57,360
gets up to the apron and Andre snatches him. And

2678
02:19:57,440 --> 02:19:59,879
it's time to bring Hogan in the hard way. Yes,

2679
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:03,360
it's time for a vertical soup playing Andre the giant.

2680
02:20:03,440 --> 02:20:04,760
Speaker 2: I see no problem with this.

2681
02:20:04,840 --> 02:20:08,200
Speaker 1: Is the elevate the Hulkster does the Holster bump and flushing. Yes,

2682
02:20:08,239 --> 02:20:11,959
thank you for answering the question. So then Andre stands

2683
02:20:12,040 --> 02:20:15,639
and tries to do a big splash. The flash bulbs

2684
02:20:15,719 --> 02:20:18,520
go off, but he misses as Hogan gets out of

2685
02:20:18,559 --> 02:20:21,760
the way, much like Grilla Monsoon had missed the big

2686
02:20:21,799 --> 02:20:25,280
splash at Madison Square Garden before Hogan pinned him in

2687
02:20:25,319 --> 02:20:28,840
the match we saw on those New York CBS news

2688
02:20:28,879 --> 02:20:31,920
highlights that we looked at last time. Yes, yes, so,

2689
02:20:32,120 --> 02:20:35,440
barring spots from that, perhaps Andre chance breakout. Hogan starts

2690
02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:37,879
laying into him with big right hands, Andrea is staggering.

2691
02:20:38,360 --> 02:20:40,680
Andre hooks the punching arm of Hulk and basically does

2692
02:20:40,719 --> 02:20:44,440
a standing komor and starts cranking the arm. Hogan puts

2693
02:20:44,479 --> 02:20:46,799
his arm under like he's going to try to slam Andre,

2694
02:20:46,959 --> 02:20:49,200
like it crossed his mind for a second, and the

2695
02:20:49,280 --> 02:20:52,520
crowd begins to immediately murmur in a noticeable way when

2696
02:20:52,559 --> 02:20:56,280
Hogan positions himself for a potential body slam. So the

2697
02:20:56,399 --> 02:20:59,760
idea that Hulk could slam Andre was always money, didn't matter,

2698
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:03,799
he was the healer, exactly exactly. Hogan tries again. No,

2699
02:21:04,559 --> 02:21:09,520
Andre responds by lifting Hogan to slam him, and while

2700
02:21:09,559 --> 02:21:13,000
he's lifting Hogan, Hogan's errant boot flies and hits referee

2701
02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:14,040
Gilberto Roman.

2702
02:21:13,920 --> 02:21:15,840
Speaker 2: Right in the face. Yes, that's there.

2703
02:21:15,879 --> 02:21:18,040
Speaker 1: We go and kaot and ends up ball entangled in

2704
02:21:18,079 --> 02:21:19,079
the ropes with his foot.

2705
02:21:19,159 --> 02:21:20,959
Speaker 2: I want to say there are a couple of things

2706
02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:24,559
here that. First off, fully, he talks about seeing a

2707
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:28,360
picture of Harley Race at Harley Race's House of Race

2708
02:21:28,479 --> 02:21:32,040
slaming Andre. Oh sure, so that that little you know?

2709
02:21:32,200 --> 02:21:34,440
I don't think. I mean, I really didn't know about

2710
02:21:34,440 --> 02:21:38,079
that until we Yes, we we talked about it for WrestleMania,

2711
02:21:38,079 --> 02:21:39,520
about how everyone was slaming Andre.

2712
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:43,360
Speaker 1: It's interesting how that WWF put that in there canon exactly.

2713
02:21:44,600 --> 02:21:48,719
Speaker 2: Also Fully also comments on Hogan's back here, so it

2714
02:21:48,840 --> 02:21:51,600
is a problem he does he does, He mentioned that

2715
02:21:51,760 --> 02:21:56,840
he mentioned the back, and then Cole I have a

2716
02:21:56,879 --> 02:22:00,520
clip of this. Cole talks about the one thing that

2717
02:22:00,719 --> 02:22:04,559
Freddy Blassie looked forward to every year while he was alive.

2718
02:22:04,879 --> 02:22:07,000
Speaker 3: One of the greatest things that Freddy used to do,

2719
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:10,319
and when he retired from wrestling, he used to love

2720
02:22:10,440 --> 02:22:12,639
to play Santa Claus. Every year he'd come to the

2721
02:22:12,719 --> 02:22:14,799
Titan Towers, He'd plays Santa Claus for all the kids,

2722
02:22:14,879 --> 02:22:17,040
the ww employees, and that is the one thing that he.

2723
02:22:17,120 --> 02:22:18,840
Speaker 6: Looked forward to every single year.

2724
02:22:19,319 --> 02:22:21,799
Speaker 3: The only thing, well, the one thing he really looked

2725
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:23,799
forward to was playing Santa Claus.

2726
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:28,360
Speaker 5: He didn't look forward to watching a video, Oh Big

2727
02:22:28,520 --> 02:22:29,879
Soup Lacks by the Giant.

2728
02:22:32,120 --> 02:22:33,840
Speaker 6: He didn't look forward to watching a copy of My

2729
02:22:33,959 --> 02:22:35,079
Breakfast with Blassie.

2730
02:22:36,239 --> 02:22:36,879
Speaker 4: Probably not.

2731
02:22:38,559 --> 02:22:41,799
Speaker 1: Hell Foley's all pissed that someone else gets to play

2732
02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:43,719
Santa I think is when it comes down to think, So,

2733
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:45,719
I think that's interesting. I did not know that about

2734
02:22:45,760 --> 02:22:52,159
fred Blassing. So after the impact with referee Goberta Raman

2735
02:22:52,879 --> 02:22:55,959
Andre goes over to check on the referee yes, And

2736
02:22:56,120 --> 02:22:58,040
to that point, Hogan comes up from behind in digs

2737
02:22:58,079 --> 02:23:02,200
and knee roller and fell the Giant. Hogan then collects

2738
02:23:02,319 --> 02:23:05,399
up Andrea with the referee still out, and ladies and gentlemen,

2739
02:23:06,399 --> 02:23:09,319
we are now no longer in a world where Hulk

2740
02:23:09,360 --> 02:23:11,280
Cogan has not slammed Andre the Giant.

2741
02:23:11,799 --> 02:23:12,639
Speaker 2: That's right, it's at this.

2742
02:23:12,719 --> 02:23:15,879
Speaker 1: Juncture in the contest that with no drama to it

2743
02:23:15,959 --> 02:23:20,360
at all, he just instantly scoops and slams Andre and

2744
02:23:20,399 --> 02:23:23,479
while the crowd oohs in ohs, it's not a big deal.

2745
02:23:24,799 --> 02:23:27,600
Speaker 2: No, I mean, it's also you know, how do you

2746
02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:30,159
do that? How do you He's a heel, so it

2747
02:23:30,719 --> 02:23:34,559
it almost should come easy, you know, it shouldn't come

2748
02:23:34,559 --> 02:23:36,120
as a challenge, like he should be able to do it.

2749
02:23:36,200 --> 02:23:38,959
And then it's frightening. He becomes a frightening guy. Now

2750
02:23:39,280 --> 02:23:42,399
that's interesting. Yeah, it was just like so abrupt.

2751
02:23:43,079 --> 02:23:44,600
Speaker 1: They I mean, they kind of built it up early

2752
02:23:44,639 --> 02:23:47,639
when Hogan teased it, but they didn't build it up

2753
02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:51,000
to where you felt it was impossible. They really built

2754
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:53,680
it up just enough to where like you kind of

2755
02:23:53,680 --> 02:23:55,520
felt like Cogan had to work a little harder for it,

2756
02:23:55,600 --> 02:23:57,559
but that it really wasn't that much of an accomplishment,

2757
02:23:58,040 --> 02:23:59,799
and maybe it feels that way because it's not the finish.

2758
02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:04,760
Hogan does slam Andre, and he goes to cover him,

2759
02:24:05,399 --> 02:24:09,559
and Andrea immediately pushes him off. No reft account. Hogan

2760
02:24:09,639 --> 02:24:12,399
then steps to Andre, who then lifts and slams Hulk.

2761
02:24:13,440 --> 02:24:16,079
So Andre immediately turns the tables and body slams Hogan

2762
02:24:17,200 --> 02:24:20,639
and hits a big splash almost immediately on the follow up,

2763
02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:24,159
and as Andrea's coming down to splash, we realize Gilberto

2764
02:24:24,239 --> 02:24:26,680
Roman has recovered sufficiently enough to come over and count

2765
02:24:26,719 --> 02:24:30,799
the cover and I'm sorry, but Hulk Hoven kicks out

2766
02:24:30,840 --> 02:24:34,520
it too. There's no way that this is a three

2767
02:24:34,639 --> 02:24:37,639
damn right, There's no way. So this lends to me

2768
02:24:37,799 --> 02:24:40,000
complete credence to the whole story from the Mid South

2769
02:24:40,040 --> 02:24:42,840
Colisseum in New Orleans for Bill Watts that Hogan had

2770
02:24:42,879 --> 02:24:45,719
cold feet about doing a clean job to Andrea because

2771
02:24:45,760 --> 02:24:47,840
he had no fucking intention of losing to him clean

2772
02:24:47,920 --> 02:24:50,799
and Chase Stadium either. Don't know what the story is here,

2773
02:24:51,360 --> 02:24:53,600
why it was deemed prudent that, after all this build

2774
02:24:53,680 --> 02:24:55,680
up that Hogan had to kick out it too. But

2775
02:24:55,760 --> 02:24:58,760
the referee had to still slap three. But Hogan is

2776
02:24:58,799 --> 02:25:01,600
learning the ways, and it wouldn't surprise me if he's

2777
02:25:01,600 --> 02:25:05,120
starting to rankle WWF management by insisting on finishes like this,

2778
02:25:05,319 --> 02:25:09,600
because it's it's it's really like, what was that The

2779
02:25:09,680 --> 02:25:12,479
crowd has to act all elated that Andre the Giant won.

2780
02:25:12,559 --> 02:25:14,840
Andre has to pump his fists, and a series of

2781
02:25:14,920 --> 02:25:17,559
visuals that went on to be absolutely iconic. Whenever they

2782
02:25:17,600 --> 02:25:21,000
did Andre highlight packages, they would often show him celebrating

2783
02:25:21,079 --> 02:25:23,959
this win with you know, the breeze and his hair

2784
02:25:24,120 --> 02:25:27,479
and just just the enormity of the venue and all

2785
02:25:27,520 --> 02:25:30,879
of that. But it's it's a really bad finish in

2786
02:25:31,000 --> 02:25:34,319
that regard, you know. It's it's just like how he

2787
02:25:34,399 --> 02:25:39,520
kicked out a Warrior splash, how he kicked out of

2788
02:25:41,879 --> 02:25:44,120
the Anochi roll ups that happened in nineteen eighty in

2789
02:25:44,159 --> 02:25:46,399
the Tag League finals with Hansen, and then the match

2790
02:25:46,479 --> 02:25:51,360
with him that they had in April of nineteen eighty.

2791
02:25:51,360 --> 02:25:54,600
I believe it was. There's always some fucking bullshit with

2792
02:25:54,719 --> 02:25:57,719
Hulk kicking out of his losses, you know, there's always something.

2793
02:25:57,760 --> 02:26:00,559
He never stays down quite cold for the two three

2794
02:26:01,079 --> 02:26:05,120
ever ever, except Yo Kazun. I guess Yeah, he didn't

2795
02:26:05,159 --> 02:26:06,559
kick out of yokazun his leg drop.

2796
02:26:06,520 --> 02:26:06,719
Speaker 6: Did he?

2797
02:26:07,879 --> 02:26:10,440
Speaker 2: But nobody tried he did? He tried?

2798
02:26:10,479 --> 02:26:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember that, yeah, and just lay there flat

2799
02:26:13,000 --> 02:26:17,040
and dead. Yeah, no never, So there It is one

2800
02:26:17,079 --> 02:26:19,959
two and three. Hogan and Andre have clashed at Shay

2801
02:26:20,040 --> 02:26:24,159
Stadium and Andre is victorious. After the match, Andre's checking

2802
02:26:24,239 --> 02:26:26,879
on the ref Hogan attacks him from behind, whips him

2803
02:26:26,920 --> 02:26:28,600
into the ropes and hits the axe bomber to the

2804
02:26:28,639 --> 02:26:31,719
forehead with the loaded elbow pad. Andrea's head is jerked

2805
02:26:31,760 --> 02:26:34,440
back and he falls forward. It looks pretty violent as

2806
02:26:34,479 --> 02:26:37,319
the bell is repeatedly sounding. Hogan leaves the ring with

2807
02:26:37,399 --> 02:26:39,799
his arms in the air, drawing another chorus of Booze

2808
02:26:40,559 --> 02:26:44,399
classic blast. He grabs him by the hand and back

2809
02:26:44,440 --> 02:26:47,479
in the ring, Andrea is suffering on the ropes. They

2810
02:26:47,559 --> 02:26:50,399
load a girning in there, like Andre is going to

2811
02:26:50,399 --> 02:26:51,840
be able to be carried out on that thing, but

2812
02:26:51,920 --> 02:26:55,639
in fact the backboard was for the referee Gilbert to raman.

2813
02:26:55,799 --> 02:26:58,319
You can hear another explosion of booze as Hogan makes

2814
02:26:58,399 --> 02:27:00,760
his way to the dugout air. Yeah, and the cameras

2815
02:27:00,799 --> 02:27:05,639
are going nuts. Trying to get Andre all bloody. They

2816
02:27:05,680 --> 02:27:08,360
didn't show it for the longest time because they can't

2817
02:27:08,360 --> 02:27:10,360
get the right angle on it. They cut the Hogan

2818
02:27:10,479 --> 02:27:13,920
kind of limping across the baseball field at Shay Stadium

2819
02:27:14,479 --> 02:27:18,520
and the referee being loaded onto the stretcher, and now

2820
02:27:18,600 --> 02:27:20,600
it's back to the ring. Andre with the blood all

2821
02:27:20,680 --> 02:27:22,920
over his chest and arms. Big time blade job here

2822
02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:25,120
from the Giant. It's the exact same thing he did

2823
02:27:25,239 --> 02:27:27,760
at the very beginning of this journey in Alabama, isn't.

2824
02:27:27,520 --> 02:27:31,000
Speaker 2: It, Boss, exact same thing.

2825
02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:35,000
Speaker 1: It's the beatdown from Hulk runs the Razor. And we've

2826
02:27:35,040 --> 02:27:37,319
got a series of matches that we'll talk about on

2827
02:27:37,440 --> 02:27:42,600
future legs, upcoming legs, forthcoming legs of the Complete They're

2828
02:27:42,639 --> 02:27:44,319
going to take Hulk and Andre around the circuit in

2829
02:27:44,399 --> 02:27:46,760
New York. But here is the finish for the big

2830
02:27:46,840 --> 02:27:49,719
one in Shay Stadium. As Vince comes into the ring

2831
02:27:49,799 --> 02:27:52,159
and gets a close look, kind of ogling at the

2832
02:27:52,200 --> 02:27:55,840
cut Giant blast, he still rolled around, raising Hell. The

2833
02:27:55,879 --> 02:27:59,200
announcements Evince. Seven minutes forty eight seconds, Andre the Giant

2834
02:27:59,319 --> 02:28:02,079
is the winner. His hands are raised with his bloody

2835
02:28:02,120 --> 02:28:05,200
head staggering about, and they love it. At Shae Stadium,

2836
02:28:05,239 --> 02:28:07,600
referee chatting with Andre a bit. They show a replay

2837
02:28:07,600 --> 02:28:11,360
of Andre's body slam and splash, and back to Andrea

2838
02:28:11,559 --> 02:28:14,760
bloody face panting for breath, and a wide shot from

2839
02:28:14,799 --> 02:28:17,799
the center field of Shaye Stadium takes us to our

2840
02:28:17,840 --> 02:28:20,920
main event. The cage is up, Vince is in the ring,

2841
02:28:21,440 --> 02:28:24,120
Larry's Obisco is as well. The first man out of

2842
02:28:24,159 --> 02:28:30,959
the cage is victorious, and the former Pittsburgh a native

2843
02:28:31,079 --> 02:28:35,040
huge of former Pittsburgh, let's say, from Pittsburgh. Huge booze

2844
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:38,360
go up, louder than Hogan's booze for sure. For a

2845
02:28:38,399 --> 02:28:41,879
self professed new living Legendarry is Abisco. He's got a

2846
02:28:41,959 --> 02:28:44,280
nice fresh blonde dye job, as he talked about in

2847
02:28:44,360 --> 02:28:46,680
his book, to this one out of a dirty blonde

2848
02:28:46,760 --> 02:28:50,479
tinge with the tan. He's looking like a star. And

2849
02:28:50,879 --> 02:28:56,040
Brunoso Martino listen, listen to this. Listen to the crowd

2850
02:28:56,280 --> 02:29:36,959
when Vince announces Bruno, no d take absolutely no mistake.

2851
02:29:37,040 --> 02:29:39,399
They are here to serenade Bruno upon his return to

2852
02:29:39,440 --> 02:29:42,639
the squared circle. Yes, yes, very happy to see him.

2853
02:29:42,719 --> 02:29:45,639
Arnold scull Ont at his side. It's the match, it's

2854
02:29:45,680 --> 02:29:49,479
the final, confrontation Bruno and Larry in the cage. Bruno

2855
02:29:49,639 --> 02:29:51,559
enters the cage and pushes out a foot to catch

2856
02:29:51,639 --> 02:29:55,040
the charging Tubisco and here we go, boots him in

2857
02:29:55,040 --> 02:29:59,399
the face. Larry's selling his ass off and you better

2858
02:29:59,440 --> 02:30:01,799
believe the crowd screaming yeah every time.

2859
02:30:01,879 --> 02:30:05,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh god, okay, this is it's it's unbelievable.

2860
02:30:06,000 --> 02:30:10,840
This is seriously, put a picture up. He's fucking salesman

2861
02:30:10,879 --> 02:30:13,200
of the year. Is Larry's obiscos.

2862
02:30:12,920 --> 02:30:15,479
Speaker 1: Sill understands the assignment and every time he gets thrown

2863
02:30:15,520 --> 02:30:18,079
into the cage wall, the crowd alates. Bruno stumps the

2864
02:30:18,120 --> 02:30:20,520
head and they're going nuts. Bruno looks to the crowd like, ah,

2865
02:30:20,600 --> 02:30:23,959
I I have fucking bloodlust in my eyes and again

2866
02:30:24,079 --> 02:30:26,680
back to the stomps. He stands on Zubisco that drives

2867
02:30:26,719 --> 02:30:29,799
his boot in his throat, runs him again into the wall.

2868
02:30:29,840 --> 02:30:30,559
Speaker 2: On the far side.

2869
02:30:30,600 --> 02:30:34,280
Speaker 1: Bruno, standing tall, looks like Sibisco's gonna blade here is

2870
02:30:34,319 --> 02:30:37,280
Bruno rams him into the fence again, Larry jumping into it.

2871
02:30:37,360 --> 02:30:39,639
Dad to the impact. They cut to a sign to

2872
02:30:39,680 --> 02:30:42,440
the audience, we want blood Bruno, it says on it.

2873
02:30:43,079 --> 02:30:45,000
It's like a banner thing they're hanging over one of

2874
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:48,040
the rafters, and then they cut to a still image

2875
02:30:48,040 --> 02:30:50,399
for some reason, almost like they inserted it in post,

2876
02:30:50,520 --> 02:30:54,479
but it showed more support for Bruno. The cage door

2877
02:30:54,520 --> 02:30:57,799
opens and Bruno chokes Subisco near it. Ah, Notice the

2878
02:30:57,840 --> 02:30:59,719
cage door doesn't have that chain link pattern. It has

2879
02:30:59,760 --> 02:31:00,879
like this horizontal pattern.

2880
02:31:00,959 --> 02:31:02,360
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's kind of weird.

2881
02:31:02,399 --> 02:31:06,840
Speaker 1: Different vendor burn, no shredding, so Obisco's forehead like so

2882
02:31:06,959 --> 02:31:10,000
much polish cabbage into the fence for all the sea's

2883
02:31:10,040 --> 02:31:13,239
making a perogi out of this motherfucker. He really is

2884
02:31:13,479 --> 02:31:15,559
running stomps. The crowd is with each and every one.

2885
02:31:16,159 --> 02:31:18,600
Suddenly's Obisco throws it right from his knees, maybe.

2886
02:31:18,479 --> 02:31:18,879
Speaker 2: A low blo.

2887
02:31:19,000 --> 02:31:23,120
Speaker 1: You get to understand the crowd is they they are

2888
02:31:24,280 --> 02:31:28,399
they are parched for blood. They're acting like every other

2889
02:31:28,479 --> 02:31:31,959
matchress fake and this one's real, yes, and they're parched.

2890
02:31:32,120 --> 02:31:32,520
Speaker 2: That's right.

2891
02:31:33,360 --> 02:31:35,680
Speaker 1: Finally, Cubisco throws from his knees. Might have even been

2892
02:31:35,719 --> 02:31:37,760
a low blow, but it stops Bruno San Martino and

2893
02:31:37,799 --> 02:31:40,520
the crowd kind of gasps at that because Brunos stops

2894
02:31:40,559 --> 02:31:42,920
his onslaught for a second, the Bruno chance starts it's

2895
02:31:42,959 --> 02:31:44,879
Obiscos kicking the hell out of Bruno on the side,

2896
02:31:45,000 --> 02:31:47,680
digging in some knees. Bruno's under the ropes taking punishment.

2897
02:31:47,879 --> 02:31:49,920
Bruno finally lunges at the Bisco as he tries to

2898
02:31:50,000 --> 02:31:52,559
get to the out of the door. Bertzibisco's trying to

2899
02:31:52,559 --> 02:31:54,479
get out of the door. Bruno lunges at him, grabs

2900
02:31:54,559 --> 02:31:56,399
him by the trunks, and yanks him back into the fray,

2901
02:31:56,479 --> 02:31:58,840
but still suffering. Not able to capitalize on all that,

2902
02:31:59,239 --> 02:32:01,280
but he did have another in the tank to stop

2903
02:32:01,360 --> 02:32:04,079
Zibisco from winning. Zibisco runs Bruno into the cage and

2904
02:32:04,120 --> 02:32:06,680
the far side, stomps away and again under the fence.

2905
02:32:06,959 --> 02:32:09,799
Sobisco starts climbing, this time trying to escape, gets to

2906
02:32:09,879 --> 02:32:11,959
the top rope with one foot over the fence. At

2907
02:32:11,959 --> 02:32:14,559
this point, Bruno gets up there and yanks him down aggressively,

2908
02:32:15,040 --> 02:32:18,040
and Zibisco crashes to the canvas, selling his back Bruno

2909
02:32:18,159 --> 02:32:20,719
with a jumping stomp. Sibisco comes up throwing right hands,

2910
02:32:20,760 --> 02:32:22,920
bringing Bruno down to a knee and down to the canvas.

2911
02:32:23,000 --> 02:32:26,760
Speaker 2: Eventually, I have here, I have some some coal and

2912
02:32:26,920 --> 02:32:35,360
fully commentary here for this one, and they fully talks

2913
02:32:35,399 --> 02:32:43,959
about ye how Bruno detractors who say Bruno couldn't hang

2914
02:32:44,040 --> 02:32:48,920
around with the modern stars and fully disagrees. It's kind

2915
02:32:48,959 --> 02:32:49,479
of nice here.

2916
02:32:49,840 --> 02:32:52,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you look at a superstars of today or

2917
02:32:52,159 --> 02:32:54,079
some of the greatest of all time still call Steve

2918
02:32:54,079 --> 02:32:56,399
Austin for instance. The man was not a high flyer.

2919
02:32:56,479 --> 02:32:58,159
He didn't fly around the ring and do all the

2920
02:32:58,239 --> 02:33:00,879
lucha libre style. He was a pounding ground attack much

2921
02:33:01,000 --> 02:33:03,200
like Bruno. But the reason you like stone cold Steve

2922
02:33:03,239 --> 02:33:05,920
Austin because you were emotionally invested in the man. Stone

2923
02:33:06,000 --> 02:33:08,639
Cold Steve Austin did what everybody in America wanted to do.

2924
02:33:08,920 --> 02:33:11,760
Speaker 4: He told his boss off, he battled his boss. Bruno.

2925
02:33:11,840 --> 02:33:14,959
Speaker 3: San Martino was much the same mold because Bruno it

2926
02:33:15,079 --> 02:33:16,840
represented the people of America.

2927
02:33:17,840 --> 02:33:21,760
Speaker 1: There you go, yeah, thing like that, solid, solid, solid.

2928
02:33:23,760 --> 02:33:25,879
So brunwin with a go behind and kicks Obisco and

2929
02:33:25,959 --> 02:33:29,239
what looks like the ass Zabisco cells. Not sure if

2930
02:33:29,280 --> 02:33:30,399
that was supposed to be a low blower or not,

2931
02:33:30,559 --> 02:33:33,879
but Bruno is now choking Zibisco, goozles him by the throat,

2932
02:33:33,959 --> 02:33:36,159
lifts him and drops it. Just great, just picks him

2933
02:33:36,239 --> 02:33:39,159
up and drops Oh yeah, runs him into the fence again,

2934
02:33:40,799 --> 02:33:44,680
they remove covering from one of the turnbuckle pads and

2935
02:33:46,399 --> 02:33:50,280
there's it gets used as a foreign object, basically choking

2936
02:33:52,680 --> 02:33:56,360
Zibisco with it. Yeah, people watching intently at ringside, there's

2937
02:33:56,399 --> 02:33:57,399
just a different intensity.

2938
02:33:57,479 --> 02:33:59,959
Speaker 2: God it is. I mean, you know, we talked about

2939
02:34:00,120 --> 02:34:03,719
the entire time we did the Bruno tribute the other

2940
02:34:03,920 --> 02:34:08,000
Matt this was the real shit. People. People were here

2941
02:34:08,120 --> 02:34:10,479
for Bruno, and Bruno was the real deal.

2942
02:34:10,559 --> 02:34:14,440
Speaker 1: Put there skepticism and irony aside. They put their sarcasm

2943
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:16,840
aside because this is like, really, it's going down and

2944
02:34:16,879 --> 02:34:20,479
we need to fucking see every second of it. Zibisco

2945
02:34:20,559 --> 02:34:22,319
tries to climb to get out of the cage again,

2946
02:34:22,360 --> 02:34:24,479
he's gorilla pressed off the top and almost lands right

2947
02:34:24,520 --> 02:34:26,760
in his head. Honestly, it's it's a hillacious ride for

2948
02:34:26,879 --> 02:34:29,799
Larry Ze. I'd love to hear his thoughts on each

2949
02:34:29,879 --> 02:34:33,239
blow that lands. Yes, and again's Abisco eats the cage.

2950
02:34:33,639 --> 02:34:36,040
Bruno digs anian his face in the corner. They go

2951
02:34:36,200 --> 02:34:38,600
corner to corner on the Irish Whipon's Abisco hits hard

2952
02:34:39,319 --> 02:34:42,040
with a kick and approaching Bruno comes in and drops

2953
02:34:42,120 --> 02:34:42,799
him with the right hand.

2954
02:34:43,760 --> 02:34:46,000
Speaker 2: Uh Foley talks about how he used to travel with

2955
02:34:46,120 --> 02:34:47,079
Larry's Abisco.

2956
02:34:46,840 --> 02:34:47,399
Speaker 6: Back in the day.

2957
02:34:48,600 --> 02:34:50,959
Speaker 5: And I used to travel with with Larry from time

2958
02:34:51,040 --> 02:34:53,799
to time, and he was a great storyteller.

2959
02:34:53,840 --> 02:34:57,719
Speaker 4: Although most travel with Larry, I did travel with Larry.

2960
02:34:57,760 --> 02:34:59,879
Speaker 6: I've been around a long time. Call you seem to forget.

2961
02:35:00,200 --> 02:35:02,719
Speaker 3: But the point I'm trying to make is who did

2962
02:35:02,760 --> 02:35:04,239
all the talk? And you guys couldn't get a word

2963
02:35:04,280 --> 02:35:06,760
in edgewise and be like you and Jr. On Commentariat's back.

2964
02:35:06,840 --> 02:35:10,399
Speaker 4: Now, Hey, I knew my place when I was younger.

2965
02:35:10,719 --> 02:35:12,799
Speaker 5: I only talk over you because I know such more,

2966
02:35:12,920 --> 02:35:15,760
so much more than you, so much to the you

2967
02:35:15,879 --> 02:35:17,120
do perceeding.

2968
02:35:18,399 --> 02:35:22,120
Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, they would travel in WCW together. That's right, Yep, yep.

2969
02:35:22,680 --> 02:35:26,680
Speaker 1: Larry throws a right hand that drops Bruno and Bruno

2970
02:35:26,760 --> 02:35:29,600
definitely made Larry's Bbisco's punches look effective and devastating. He

2971
02:35:29,719 --> 02:35:34,520
definitely did. He He made Tibisco look like a higher level.

2972
02:35:36,280 --> 02:35:36,600
Speaker 2: Mauler.

2973
02:35:37,520 --> 02:35:41,360
Speaker 1: Zibisco stomps the head Bruno's ailing on the canvas. Great

2974
02:35:41,399 --> 02:35:44,159
tight shot of him squinting in pain to knock down,

2975
02:35:44,239 --> 02:35:46,280
drag out fight. It's no other way to put it. Yeah,

2976
02:35:46,440 --> 02:35:49,360
they don't fuck around in this match at all. Sobisco's

2977
02:35:49,399 --> 02:35:51,319
running down with the double axe handle as well, Larry

2978
02:35:51,399 --> 02:35:54,280
pointing accusatally at Bruno as he keeps stopping him. Bruno

2979
02:35:54,360 --> 02:35:57,680
starts the the Bruno chance start up again. Kind of wild.

2980
02:35:57,879 --> 02:36:00,120
They went through all the scientific wrestling stuff that we

2981
02:36:00,239 --> 02:36:03,079
watched during the bill, yes, and here we just get

2982
02:36:03,159 --> 02:36:04,399
Bruno just.

2983
02:36:04,799 --> 02:36:07,079
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the way you do it. You want

2984
02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:10,600
to do that. That's how brilliant is it that he

2985
02:36:10,719 --> 02:36:13,159
does this thing. Everyone's excited that he's going to do

2986
02:36:13,680 --> 02:36:16,440
this scientific wrestling. But then when after the heel turn,

2987
02:36:16,920 --> 02:36:20,920
all people want to see is Larry's Abisco get beat

2988
02:36:21,040 --> 02:36:21,680
the fuck up.

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02:36:21,879 --> 02:36:24,799
Speaker 1: They wanted the technical, they found a way to make

2990
02:36:24,879 --> 02:36:27,520
them want that kind of match, and then that just

2991
02:36:27,600 --> 02:36:30,639
makes them want this even more even more, and that's

2992
02:36:30,680 --> 02:36:33,559
the brawl they're getting here. Sobisco, it's in the blax handles.

2993
02:36:33,600 --> 02:36:36,440
He runs Bruno into the buckle shoulder first, punching away

2994
02:36:36,440 --> 02:36:38,719
at the head and the psychology. Bruno decided on I'm

2995
02:36:38,719 --> 02:36:42,200
gonna blade my arm in this one, like Dusty Wacky

2996
02:36:42,319 --> 02:36:45,840
in my arm. So Zabisco keeps gratuitously attacking the shoulder,

2997
02:36:45,920 --> 02:36:48,360
running it into the buckle and punching away at the arm.

2998
02:36:51,079 --> 02:36:54,920
Zibisco keeps ramming the shoulder in. You can tell keeps

2999
02:36:54,920 --> 02:36:57,159
feeding him the shoulder so Larry can punch away at it.

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02:36:57,719 --> 02:37:00,239
Larry calls for the door. Now he walks over. He

3001
02:37:00,319 --> 02:37:03,159
climbs Bruno yanks him back in but one arm, and

3002
02:37:03,200 --> 02:37:05,479
he's selling it so well, Bruno, he really is selling

3003
02:37:05,520 --> 02:37:08,040
it like a dead army and he never uses it

3004
02:37:08,200 --> 02:37:10,280
as if it's back to full power or anything like that.

3005
02:37:10,799 --> 02:37:13,000
Sibisco gets back on him with punches and keeps hitting

3006
02:37:13,040 --> 02:37:15,799
the same arm. Sibisco calls for the door. It opens.

3007
02:37:15,959 --> 02:37:19,120
Bruno again lunges, grabs and polls. He runs him into

3008
02:37:19,120 --> 02:37:23,239
the the turnbuckle. I guess the corner buckle, and Sibisco

3009
02:37:23,319 --> 02:37:25,399
starts digging in the wrist tape because it's time for

3010
02:37:25,479 --> 02:37:28,040
him to bleed as well, and he gets run into

3011
02:37:28,040 --> 02:37:32,200
the exposed buckle that had been removed earlier to the

3012
02:37:32,280 --> 02:37:34,719
apron and bang into the buckle again goes Ubisco.

3013
02:37:34,879 --> 02:37:35,399
Speaker 2: He's writhing.

3014
02:37:36,239 --> 02:37:39,360
Speaker 1: Bruno with a kick Knocksibisco backwards. Sibisco was great selling

3015
02:37:39,399 --> 02:37:41,719
that he was collapsing out there after. Oh he was,

3016
02:37:42,040 --> 02:37:45,440
he was job Sibisco bleeding. Bruno runs him into the

3017
02:37:45,479 --> 02:37:48,479
buckle and the apron again, stumps his head, throws him

3018
02:37:48,479 --> 02:37:50,920
in the cage again and again and again, and this

3019
02:37:51,000 --> 02:37:53,360
times Obisco spills all the way over the fence onto

3020
02:37:53,399 --> 02:37:56,639
the apron and again. Sibisco tries to throw himself in

3021
02:37:56,760 --> 02:38:03,520
twice and falls down. Throws himself in into the fence twice. Yeah, yeah,

3022
02:38:03,559 --> 02:38:06,559
he just jumped. He just takes it hard. Bruno calls

3023
02:38:06,600 --> 02:38:09,559
for the door and stomps. This is so great the

3024
02:38:09,600 --> 02:38:12,520
way it ends. It just seems anti climactic at first,

3025
02:38:12,600 --> 02:38:16,680
but then like you think about the whole story and everything. Yesno,

3026
02:38:16,799 --> 02:38:21,600
just stomps him in the head, calls for the uh,

3027
02:38:21,719 --> 02:38:24,959
steps over his body. Yep, he's done, throws his arms

3028
02:38:25,040 --> 02:38:28,239
up like fuck you at Sibisco, and just steps through

3029
02:38:28,280 --> 02:38:32,319
the cage door, onto the steps, onto the grass for

3030
02:38:32,520 --> 02:38:35,239
the wind, selling the arm the whole time. Referee raises

3031
02:38:35,319 --> 02:38:36,000
the good arm.

3032
02:38:36,479 --> 02:38:36,920
Speaker 2: And that's it.

3033
02:38:37,319 --> 02:38:39,840
Speaker 1: He just beats the shit out of him and leaves

3034
02:38:39,879 --> 02:38:43,280
him there and bounces and Zibisco is like to me,

3035
02:38:43,559 --> 02:38:46,399
Zibisco is kind of like, I could go after this guy,

3036
02:38:47,479 --> 02:38:49,600
I could have stopped him from escaping, but I don't

3037
02:38:49,639 --> 02:38:53,040
think I want anymore. Yeah, he wasn't out cold, he

3038
02:38:53,200 --> 02:38:57,280
wasn't left dead. There wasn't this big stupid, like ultra violent.

3039
02:38:57,399 --> 02:38:59,399
You know, in cage matches like this, they have to

3040
02:38:59,520 --> 02:39:02,360
end when someone puts six ladders on a guy's head

3041
02:39:02,639 --> 02:39:06,399
and drops a sledgehammer on it, you know, right, exactly exactly,

3042
02:39:06,479 --> 02:39:09,120
go to the extreme ends of the earth to communicate

3043
02:39:09,200 --> 02:39:13,639
the kind of violence that they think would necessitate someone

3044
02:39:13,719 --> 02:39:15,639
not being able to stop the other guy from escaping

3045
02:39:15,680 --> 02:39:17,479
the cage or not pinning him or whatever.

3046
02:39:18,399 --> 02:39:19,959
Speaker 2: Back then, it was like, I'm gonna beat the shit

3047
02:39:20,000 --> 02:39:21,920
out of you and then I'm done. I've done, I've

3048
02:39:21,920 --> 02:39:25,719
done my view. You know you don't want anymore, exactly,

3049
02:39:26,040 --> 02:39:27,920
and that's what we had. Not only that, not only that,

3050
02:39:28,239 --> 02:39:29,879
not only do you know you don't want anymore? You

3051
02:39:30,040 --> 02:39:33,799
know you can't beat me, so why bother?

3052
02:39:33,920 --> 02:39:35,760
Speaker 1: They get more of that a bit because even after

3053
02:39:35,799 --> 02:39:38,520
Bruno hits the grass and wins the match, Sobisco in

3054
02:39:38,559 --> 02:39:41,239
the ring keeps pointing at him and still kind of

3055
02:39:42,760 --> 02:39:44,440
he gets on the ring steps, he almost falls off

3056
02:39:44,440 --> 02:39:47,200
the ring Stepsibisco, It's pretty funny. They wobble under his feet.

3057
02:39:47,239 --> 02:39:50,680
He almost Yeah, and they face off, Bruno and Sibisco

3058
02:39:50,719 --> 02:39:52,479
after the match is over, they face off right there

3059
02:39:52,520 --> 02:39:58,319
on the grass and he tries to throw punch. Bruno

3060
02:39:58,440 --> 02:40:01,200
comes back and clocks him and the crowd that and

3061
02:40:01,280 --> 02:40:05,559
then Grazibisco just kind of grabs his his his wrist,

3062
02:40:05,600 --> 02:40:10,000
sets it aside, collapses and just uh just takes off.

3063
02:40:10,120 --> 02:40:13,040
He just like takes off, just stops wanting to fight.

3064
02:40:13,840 --> 02:40:17,920
And Bruno, despite taking tremendous damage from the cut and

3065
02:40:18,120 --> 02:40:21,120
from the dead arm and all of that, is led

3066
02:40:21,200 --> 02:40:25,159
away by his entourage and some of New York's finest

3067
02:40:25,879 --> 02:40:28,799
as Vince makes the announcement thirteen minutes and four seconds

3068
02:40:28,840 --> 02:40:32,239
the winner, Bruno se Martine the Bruno chance go off.

3069
02:40:32,440 --> 02:40:36,079
Wonder where that cop was that? Yeah, Bruno all the

3070
02:40:36,120 --> 02:40:41,680
way to the dugout and yeah it's uh you can

3071
02:40:41,760 --> 02:40:44,319
see some cops are looking at Bruno's arm like is

3072
02:40:44,360 --> 02:40:45,719
it real? Is that a real cut? Is that a

3073
02:40:45,799 --> 02:40:50,000
real going on there? And the replay just shows that

3074
02:40:50,040 --> 02:40:52,440
Bruno threw one final stomp to layer his head and

3075
02:40:52,559 --> 02:40:55,319
walked off looking at his arm like, son of a bitch,

3076
02:40:55,360 --> 02:40:58,479
look what he did to me, like almost being forgetful

3077
02:40:58,760 --> 02:41:03,159
of Zubisco's history, as if he'd been this insect that

3078
02:41:03,239 --> 02:41:04,959
had been dealt with and now Bruno's got to go

3079
02:41:05,040 --> 02:41:08,239
lick the wounds, doing what he had to do. And

3080
02:41:08,319 --> 02:41:11,120
then they show Bruno descending into the dugout a wide

3081
02:41:11,159 --> 02:41:14,360
shot from center field. What a summer night and flushing

3082
02:41:15,600 --> 02:41:18,799
as Bruno, Sammartino and the banners hang for him makes

3083
02:41:18,840 --> 02:41:22,600
one last return and lays the case out, lays the

3084
02:41:22,719 --> 02:41:26,479
formula out, lays the approach out for a babyface Hulk

3085
02:41:26,520 --> 02:41:29,600
Hogan in so many ways. Yep, ye, if he was

3086
02:41:29,719 --> 02:41:32,239
worth his salt, was watching intently after his tilt with

3087
02:41:32,319 --> 02:41:34,959
Andre the Giant. Well there it is the first deep

3088
02:41:35,040 --> 02:41:38,200
dive of the Complete Hulk Hogan showdown at Shaye nineteen eighty.

3089
02:41:38,239 --> 02:41:40,680
It will never be the same for Hulk Cogan, and

3090
02:41:40,799 --> 02:41:42,159
I guess we can say it'll never be the same

3091
02:41:42,159 --> 02:41:43,399
for Bruno Sammartino either.

3092
02:41:44,200 --> 02:41:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair too.

3093
02:41:46,239 --> 02:41:48,319
Speaker 1: We'll see you next time on the complete as Hulk

3094
02:41:48,360 --> 02:41:51,280
and Andre take this whole shiz knit on the road

3095
02:41:51,879 --> 02:41:54,079
to get as many gates out of it as they can.

3096
02:41:54,559 --> 02:41:58,559
As nineteen eighty comes to a close on the complete.

3097
02:42:00,079 --> 02:42:01,440
Speaker 2: Preceding Elpan is a TJ.

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02:42:01,639 --> 02:42:05,399
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