WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.000 Now one of your pudding. I got a stream going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 on here. Something just kiss my dog. Something killed your dog? 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.960 My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree. 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.640 I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm 5 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.120 really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over 6 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:17.800 the fence and he was dead. And once you hit 7 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:19.679 the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I 8 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:38.479 saw was my dog coming over the fence. Are you 9 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:43.759 putting we got some wonder or something probably around out here? 10 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:51.560 Did you see what it was? 11 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:53.960 Or was it was? Stand enough. I'm out here looking 12 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:55.719 through the window now and I don't see anything. I 13 00:00:55.759 --> 00:01:02.159 don't want to go outside. Jesus quiet you better hello, 14 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:06.239 get someboddy out here. What quin I'm out there? It's 15 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.599 thought of a bitch of about second fort nine. I 16 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:11.239 don't know. Easy an out there? Yeah, I'm walking right. 17 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:14.120 Hey, are folks want to welcome our guest to the show. 18 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.319 It is Chris from my old stomping grounds up in Georgia. 19 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:18.000 Welcome to the show. 20 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.079 Man, Hey, thank you. I appreciate it. 21 00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:21.599 I am glad to have you. So let's get right 22 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:23.439 into it. Let's talk about this bigfoot thing. What guy 23 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:25.359 you interested in the subject to begin with. 24 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:27.159 I never really was. 25 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:34.120 I was probably like most people, skeptical but optimistic. There's 26 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:36.959 got to be something that somebody's seeing. You can't have 27 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:42.480 this many reports and not be something. I've always been 28 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:46.159 a fan of paranormal and I know there's some theories 29 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.879 out there that maybe Bigfoot is a paranormal bean or 30 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:55.799 a pair of universe type being that bounces between universes, 31 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:58.439 or what have you. I believe now, but in the past, 32 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:00.680 I was like, there's got to be something to it. 33 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:01.920 Hopefully optimistic. 34 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:05.319 I can't possibly imagine that all of these sightings are 35 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:09.000 just crazy people out there making stuff up, especially all. 36 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:09.599 Over the world. 37 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:15.840 The whole premise behind my experience a hunter. I didn't 38 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:22.039 hunt very much when I was in my early adult years. 39 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:26.639 I hunted when I was teenager, squirrel stuff like that 40 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:30.599 with buddies when we were teenagers, and did some deer hunting. 41 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:34.560 Went into the military. I was in the Marines. Of course, 42 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:36.439 now I didn't have the privilege to be one of 43 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:40.520 those badass marine corpse snipers, but as everybody knows, marine 44 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.120 is a rifleman first, so when they taught us how 45 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.479 to shoot at people, I lost my taste for hunting 46 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:52.479 in general became something that you would do out of necessity. 47 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:55.280 Didn't fast forward. I'd gotten out of the Marines in 48 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:56.159 ninety six. 49 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:01.680 In two thousand and six, joined the Army, the National Guard. 50 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:04.680 In two thousand and nine, went to Afghanistan. I was 51 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:07.479 there for a year and I was privileged to meet 52 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:12.039 a lot of just outstanding people. One of these colonel 53 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:15.680 that I met, he was an executive officer for my unit, 54 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:19.639 introduced me to a group of people. When I got 55 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:23.280 back from Afghanistan, I actually became really good friends with 56 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:23.800 this fella. 57 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:24.960 I went to work for him. 58 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:28.080 I didn't have a job when I came back from Afghanistan, 59 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:31.319 so I went basically on active duty at that point, 60 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:32.280 active duty. 61 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:32.639 With the state. 62 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:36.520 Became really good friends with the warrant officer that I 63 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:41.159 worked with or worked for, and subsequently he to kind 64 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:44.159 of lend a little bit of credibility here, not that 65 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:46.319 I really felt like I need to, but as part 66 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:52.000 of the story, this gentleman ended up being a CW five. So, 67 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:56.240 if you're familiar with the military ranks, C five is 68 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:58.280 the highest warrant officer rank that you can get. 69 00:03:58.599 --> 00:03:59.960 They don't hand that out lightly. 70 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:03.080 C W five is the you have a full bird 71 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:06.800 colonel respond to a CW five with yes, sir. 72 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:08.439 We became friends. 73 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:12.759 He's got a place in North Georgia in Blairsville, which 74 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:16.439 stits right on the edge or is really surrounded by 75 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:20.839 the Chattyhoochie National Forest. That's roughly I think, close to 76 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:23.759 one hundred thousand acres of forestland. 77 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:25.600 There's not a whole lot out there. 78 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:29.800 We were lucky that his place set real close to 79 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:34.759 some National Forest property short drive and we hunted there 80 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:41.079 from yes, probably starting around twenty eleven until he yes, 81 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:43.279 maybe two thousand and sixteen. 82 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:46.160 I had gotten injured prior to the. 83 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:50.000 Deployment is steering deployment, and I've got bad knees, so 84 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:52.279 I draw a little bit of disability from the VA 85 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:54.800 for my knees. So I got to a point where 86 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:57.839 I just couldn't do it anymore. I can climb up 87 00:04:57.879 --> 00:04:59.800 a ladder stand and sit in a ladder stand, but 88 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.879 I can't climb up and down mountains. About twenty sixteen 89 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:06.199 is when I stopped hunting up. 90 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:07.079 There in North Georgia. 91 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:13.319 This experience that I had probably happened around twenty thirteen 92 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:17.399 twenty fourteen, and the way it all happened. I've never 93 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:20.680 been afraid really to be in the woods. There's something 94 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:25.319 about nature that is peaceful all the time. So when 95 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:29.199 this chaos to me happened, it scared me to a 96 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:31.519 point that it made my blood would just run cold. 97 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:35.360 Where I hunted at this particular area, my buddy would 98 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:39.199 drop me off and then he would commute about another 99 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:40.959 mile and a half down. 100 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.759 The forestry road and go to his stand. My stand 101 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:48.120 I had to go up. I don't want to guess 102 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:49.079 at the incline. 103 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:51.680 It wasn't quite forty five degree, but it was pretty 104 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:54.959 dagon steep incline, and it's zig zagged. It had switchbacks 105 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:59.079 on it, but it was probably about eight hundred, maybe 106 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:00.879 a thousand yards of. 107 00:06:01.160 --> 00:06:03.720 Switchbacks up the side to get to the ridge line. 108 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:06.079 When you get to the top of the ridge line, 109 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:11.800 you can go right and continue up the ridge towards 110 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:14.720 the top of the mountain, or you could turn left 111 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:19.000 and there was like a hedge of laurel and some hardwoods. 112 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:21.680 Anybody that's ever been fishing, and you get into that 113 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:24.240 swampy area where you got a lot of those dead 114 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:27.079 sticks stick it up out of the ground, which probably 115 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:28.759 would have been a tree at some point before it 116 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:31.079 became a swamp. That's why I caught them stick ups 117 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:33.680 because they weren't very big, probably none of them taller 118 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:34.040 than me. 119 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:35.399 I'm six foot. 120 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:38.040 They didn't have any in the winter time, they han't 121 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:40.519 having leaves on them, so all the greenery was like 122 00:06:40.600 --> 00:06:45.040 this hedge of mountain laurels that ran off to the left, 123 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:49.079 and then a game trail that weaved in and out. 124 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:52.120 Of these little stick ups. So I followed the way, 125 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:53.279 or where I put my sand. 126 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:56.040 I followed that little game trail, and then went down 127 00:06:56.079 --> 00:07:00.560 the other side of the ridge about ten yards maybe, 128 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:04.879 and climbed a tree with my climbing stand, climbed up 129 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:09.040 to the level of the ridge, so that anything I 130 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.160 was shooting at was pretty much at eye level. I 131 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:13.839 wasn't shooting up and I wasn't shooting down. Because this 132 00:07:13.959 --> 00:07:16.560 was a well used game trail. I figured I got 133 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:18.839 a good chance, and this is where I always put 134 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:21.000 my stand. For the whole time that we hunted there, 135 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:26.879 all ever saw were turkeys. But I knew something was 136 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:31.160 using that trail because it was well worn. On this 137 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:36.040 particular evening, I thought I'm gonna get out. I always 138 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:38.959 tried to get out before dark. Now I know a 139 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:41.199 lot of people. They are hardcore hunters. They're gonna sit 140 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:46.600 there until legal shooting light. If you've been in the mountains, 141 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:50.680 you know that it may be bright up tap, but 142 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:55.199 when you start getting down low it gets dark quick. 143 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:58.800 So having bad knees and trying to negotiate that, I 144 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:00.800 said it was about five five point. 145 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:02.439 Fifteen or so, so I'm gonna go ahead and get down. 146 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:06.000 I scared a deer when I was coming back through 147 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:08.639 the laurel and the stick ups. I scared a deer. 148 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:13.079 I heard it run off to my right. I knew 149 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:15.120 that it was a deer. Now i'll get to how 150 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:17.519 I knew it was a deer, But you know what 151 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:19.920 a deer sounds like when they run. Part of my 152 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:22.480 story has to do with sounds, so I don't want 153 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:24.480 to get too much into that. But I knew it 154 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:26.639 was a deer, and I checked my app. I've got 155 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:28.480 one of those apps that you used to find the 156 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:32.159 feeding times, right, same for fishing and whatever. They've got 157 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:34.799 a major time and a minor time throughout the day 158 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.159 in that twenty four hour period where they're going. 159 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:41.519 To feed they're somewhat accurate. It's not one hundred percent. 160 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:45.519 But I checked it and according to the time, it 161 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.159 was a minor feeding time, and I had said in 162 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:52.000 the evening. What I meant was lunchtime that day. The 163 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:55.720 evening part comes back to the story. So I scared 164 00:08:55.720 --> 00:08:58.200 the deer off lunchtime getting down, and I checked and 165 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.840 that was about right feeding time. So I said, okay, tonight, 166 00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:08.360 I will sit until there's no shooting light. Because the 167 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:13.240 feeding time, the major feeding time, was six PM. So 168 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:15.159 it's okay, I'm sit. I'm gonna sit in this tree 169 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:18.000 until it gets dark. Hopefully i'll kill something. It'll be 170 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:21.200 worth falling down the mountain. So that night I gave 171 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:23.919 him my stand. That afternoon, I guess it was probably 172 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:27.399 we had lunch and got back in there about one 173 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:30.000 o'clock one thirty and I sat. 174 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:33.919 I sat the whole time. It was dark. I couldn't 175 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:34.440 see nothing. 176 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.960 When I climbed down, even the horizon was just barely purple. 177 00:09:38.679 --> 00:09:39.840 I climbed down. 178 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:43.440 Unloaded my rifle like I always do, threw it over 179 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:47.879 my shoulder, climbed up to the ridgeline, and started walking 180 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.679 up the trail to get to the head of where 181 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:54.600 I would walk back down. I got through those stick 182 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:57.559 ups about halfway and I couldn't see because of the laurel. 183 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:01.919 But what I heard, and it's weird to even talk 184 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:05.720 about it now. First I heard a kind of a sound, 185 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:08.000 and there were a lot of hunters out there are 186 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:09.720 going to go, oh, you guys just got picked off. 187 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:11.879 Deer just blue at you. Now, I know what a 188 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:15.000 deer sounds like when it blows. This wasn't a deer. 189 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:17.559 This sounded like somebody was ticked off. But it was 190 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:21.600 real deep and real powerful. Then what I heard next 191 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:24.039 is what made my blood run cold, because it was 192 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:29.600 this combination of sounds that I've heard before, like a 193 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:34.879 pig squill, a screech owl, just a combination of animals 194 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:40.639 just to scream. I drew my pistol, immediately drew my pistol, 195 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.559 just reflux and hit my flashlight. 196 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:45.919 This is where I'm going to talk about those sounds 197 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:47.879 of animals moving around. You know, deer. 198 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:51.519 What a deer sounds like. It's very light footed, it 199 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:52.480 sounds like it's. 200 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:53.879 On four legs. You can hear it run. 201 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:56.919 And you know what a bear sounds like when a 202 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:59.600 bear runs. A bear doesn't really pick up its legs 203 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:03.399 and shuff If you've ever seen one running through the 204 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:08.039 woods or through the mountains, everything that grows on that 205 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:12.840 mountain that is dead in the wintertime sticks to his fur. 206 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:18.039 Everything sticks to it. It's like he's bringing a pile 207 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:23.399 of leaves. Right, It's just a sound coming down the mountain. 208 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:29.320 That's not what I heard. What I heard were heavy footsteps, 209 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:32.639 just thuds, running away from me in the opposite direction. 210 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:36.720 They died after that scream. And it wasn't a whoop. 211 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:40.519 I know people talk about whoops or they even sometimes 212 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:43.399 hear what sounds like a lady screaming. It was like 213 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:47.120 that sound, but it was deeper. It was more from 214 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:51.279 the gut. I didn't really feel it. I know people 215 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:54.000 talk about they have heard the experiences where people say 216 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:56.960 that they have these up close encounters, that these screams, 217 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:00.120 that they can feel them like infrasound or whatever. I 218 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.320 didn't really feel it as much that I can remember. 219 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:05.559 But it may be that I was just scared out 220 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:09.240 of my mind. But I heard it running away from me, 221 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:13.480 and it wasn't a bear bear shuffles and drags everything 222 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:18.440 with him. This was heavy footed and it was moving at. 223 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:19.000 A pretty good clip. 224 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:22.759 Just from the sound of moving away from me, I 225 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.519 could tell that whatever it was in my mind, it 226 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:32.240 was a bigfoot, but it was very long strides, so 227 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:35.879 it would take a step. He would hear it like 228 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:38.799 landing it by like a sledgehammer pounding on the dirt. 229 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:42.600 That's just the best way I can describe it. So 230 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:45.480 I gathered myself it's gone at this point because I 231 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:49.240 don't hear anything else. What I think happened was what 232 00:12:49.399 --> 00:12:52.279 I was hoping would happen. Is there was a deer 233 00:12:53.200 --> 00:12:56.000 or some wildlife that was going to come down that 234 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:57.679 game trail and give. 235 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:01.519 Me a shot. But he got it, or at least 236 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:03.200 tried to get it, and maybe he did. 237 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:04.879 Maybe he drug it off with him because I adn't 238 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:08.320 see anything, so maybe he took it with him. I 239 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:11.120 get down the trail and my buddy standing in front 240 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:13.600 of his truck, and I said, did you hear that? 241 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:16.960 And he said no, I just got out of the truck, 242 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:18.720 he says, I just pulled up. I thought he had 243 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.600 been sitting there because he was standing in front of 244 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:21.039 the truck. 245 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:24.679 He's no, I didn't hear anything. I tell him the story. 246 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:26.600 I just told you, and he laughs. 247 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:29.720 Of course this is a big it's plenty to him, 248 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:32.360 because I'm scared at this point. 249 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:35.000 And I'm not one to normally be scared. 250 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.600 Not that I'm some sort of badass or anything, but 251 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:41.639 I'm I'm six foot tall, i was at that time 252 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:45.279 probably two hundred and eighty pounds. I've been in the military, 253 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:47.840 I've been in combat zone, I've been all over the world. 254 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:50.320 Just being in the Marines, we like to beat on 255 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:52.799 each other. I've never been one to really be scared 256 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:54.600 of anything, and this scared me. And he could tell 257 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:56.679 that I was scared. Maybe he was trying to make 258 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:57.279 light of it. 259 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:59.600 And make me feel better, but it didn't. 260 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:01.919 It really irritated me, pissed me off a little bit 261 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:05.639 because I felt he wasn't taken me seriously. Of course, 262 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.080 hell I probably wouldn't have taken me seriously either. But 263 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:13.600 to tie that in to a visual experience, the way 264 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:16.639 I can describe this area where we hunt is there 265 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:23.399 are two roads that split this ridge line. One road 266 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:25.840 to the left, it's called Low Gap, and there's some 267 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:32.559 houses and large tracks of land that are fenced off. 268 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:36.960 I never saw any horses or anything out there. Maybe 269 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:40.519 at one point they did, or maybe they've just fenced 270 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:44.559 off their property, but large tracks of land, several maybe 271 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:48.200 as much as ten acres. And I never liked hunting 272 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.320 on the low Gap side of the mountain, mainly because 273 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:55.840 there's a stream that runs through there. I know everybody's oh, 274 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:58.679 a stream, animal's got to come and drink. Maybe it's 275 00:14:58.799 --> 00:14:59.919 military training. 276 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:00.240 To what you. 277 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:02.919 I didn't like it because the stream was too loud. 278 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:07.519 I couldn't hear anything going on around me. The stream 279 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:08.679 made too much noise. 280 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:12.559 And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll 281 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:14.440 be right back after these messages. 282 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:22.320 So I never hunted over there. Always hunted on the 283 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:23.559 other side of the ridge. 284 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:26.840 And basically if you were where those roads split off, 285 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:30.120 if you were to start walking up the mountain there, 286 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:33.320 that would take you right to where they were like these. 287 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:36.159 You'd climb up and they'd be a flat spot, and 288 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:37.960 then you'd climb over another ridge and there'd be a 289 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.159 flat spot. And so there was probably like maybe six 290 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.879 slap spots like that all the way up to the top. 291 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:47.480 Of the mountain. So I left and went home. 292 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:53.279 My friend called me the next evening and said, listen 293 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:55.679 I want to tell you a story, and I'm like, oh, 294 00:15:55.720 --> 00:16:00.240 here we go. He's about poke fun at me. That's like, okay, 295 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:03.159 what is it? He said, I ran into I can't 296 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:04.919 remember what his name is right off. 297 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:08.600 But he's a local to the Blairsville area. My buddy 298 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:08.960 told me. 299 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:12.200 He says, when I came out of the woods this morning, 300 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:15.360 this truck was sitting there by my truck. So I 301 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:17.720 waited for him to come out of the woods to 302 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:20.159 talk with him, get some insight on what's going on 303 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:20.960 with the deer and. 304 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:24.240 Stuff like that. I said, okay. He says, this is 305 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:24.919 what he told me. 306 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:28.600 I told him the story that you told me. I'm 307 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:32.600 going to try and speak like this guy. The gentleman 308 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:37.480 is not slow or mentally ill or anything like that. 309 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:39.799 He's just country. 310 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.639 So Alvin tells him, my friend tells him this story, 311 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:45.639 and the guy says, let. 312 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:47.679 Me tell you something. Don't be too quick to laugh. 313 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:51.840 He said, I was hunting Low Gap Road by the 314 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:55.519 stream over there on that fence line. He said, I 315 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:59.480 saw two of something walking across that field. He said, buddy, 316 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.039 they weren't human, but they were walking up right. 317 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:05.839 I said, really. Alvin said, yeah, I just thought that 318 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:07.480 I should tell you that story. 319 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.920 That kind of lended credibility to me, because first of all, 320 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:13.599 this guy's a local, he lives there. I don't want 321 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:15.160 to say he's seen that type of stuff all the time, 322 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:16.839 he sees stuff in the woods all the time, because 323 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:17.559 he's always. 324 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:19.240 In the woods in that area, he lives there. 325 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.759 For me, that kind of settled in my mind that 326 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:27.720 what I heard, even though I didn't see it, that 327 00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:30.960 what I heard was what I thought it was. 328 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:33.240 After that, I've just stuck with it. 329 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:36.440 Started watching the big Foot shows on TV and that 330 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:38.480 kind of thing. And one night my wife and I 331 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:41.039 and they made fun of me that Christmas was funny 332 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.359 actually that Christmas because I told the family the story 333 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:46.359 that Christmas, my daughter had gotten me a magnet for 334 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:49.519 the refrigerator that said a Bigfoot Hide and Seek champion. 335 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:51.519 Everybody thought it was real funny. 336 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:54.359 But my wife and I we were laying in bed one night, 337 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:56.480 she was reading her on her phone or something, and 338 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:57.839 I was watching one. 339 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.720 Of the Bigfoot shows they were doing. 340 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:02.920 They call them the town hall meetings to talk to 341 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:04.599 people and get their experiences. 342 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:10.240 This person they stood up and described hearing what I heard. 343 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:14.720 They described it just like I described it, and my 344 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:17.920 wife looks over at me and she goes, that's exactly 345 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:20.880 what you said you heard, and I said, yeah, exactly, 346 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:23.960 that's what I'm trying to tell you. Then after that, 347 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:28.720 I started noticing things in the woods. 348 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:29.559 More than normal. 349 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:34.359 So something I learned going to Afghanistan when we did 350 00:18:34.359 --> 00:18:37.400 our training to go to Afghanistan was being able to 351 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:42.119 spot potential id's roadside bombs and stuff like that. One 352 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:45.160 of the ways you could do that was the trigger 353 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:49.440 men for these ied They'll stack rocks on the side 354 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:53.119 of the road and that's their visual so they know 355 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:56.559 that when the vehicle gets to those rocks, that's when 356 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.759 they want to detonate it. And you know that because 357 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:04.519 rocks don't stack themselves, right, somebody had to stack them. 358 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:08.880 I started noticing then in the woods. I wouldn't always 359 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.839 be on a trail. Sometimes you go places where nobody's 360 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:16.200 ever been before, and I'll notice rocks are stacked up 361 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:18.319 and you start looking around. 362 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:19.440 There's no sign. 363 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:23.200 And I'm not saying that Bigfoot stacked rocks, because I 364 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:25.720 don't know that. I didn't see it, But rocks don't 365 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:30.319 stack themselves in the middle of nowhere. In the North 366 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:33.960 Georgia Mountains where there's ninety six thousand acres and I 367 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:37.039 just happened to walk upon the same site that somebody 368 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:37.759 else came through. 369 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:40.960 It felt like stacking rocks. I just find that hard 370 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:41.480 to believe. 371 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:45.559 And I know that there are experiences people have with 372 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:51.799 like trees being crossed over and made into these like 373 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:55.640 egg shapes or what have you to note either danger 374 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:58.400 or it's an arrow it's pointing this way, or hey, 375 00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:01.400 this is the spot or whatever, and not figuring rocks. 376 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:02.279 It's the same thing. 377 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:05.000 Anybody could stack a rock, but why in the hell 378 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:06.880 would they do it in the middle of nowhere. 379 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:10.960 Out in the woods. It's weird. It's just weird stuff 380 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:11.319 like that. 381 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:15.119 That kind of covers my experience with that. So the 382 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:17.839 trail camera pictures, I'm will send them to you as 383 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:20.720 soon as I can find them. We keep cameras out 384 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:23.799 on the property. I have sixty five acres here in 385 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:26.079 Middle Georgia that we hunt on. There's a lot of 386 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:29.880 there's turkey, pig and deer, so we keep trail cameras 387 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:32.400 on there pretty regular And it's not just me that 388 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:35.720 hunts down there. My wife's cousin hunts down there and 389 00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:39.160 his family. So I had this trail camera. I pulled 390 00:20:39.160 --> 00:20:42.400 the footage on. I want to say this was probably 391 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:46.200 twenty twelve. Somebody else that was on one of your 392 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:50.359 earlier episodes had talked about seeing like beams of light. 393 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:53.759 So here's the short of it. You know how trail 394 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:56.839 camera takes pictures, just takes them. 395 00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:58.599 As long as there's movement in front of them, they're going. 396 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:01.640 To take a picture, and it might be every ten seconds, 397 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:07.359 twenty seconds, whatever. So the first picture is a deer 398 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:12.599 and a raccoon, and I want to say it was 399 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:14.559 a squirrel, but it might not have been a squirrel 400 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:17.079 because of us at night, and usually squirrels are bedded 401 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:18.799