WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:02.839 You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:05.639 In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to 3 00:00:05.679 --> 00:00:08.400 bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've 4 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:12.759 seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers 5 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:16.719 to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, 6 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:19.719 and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. 7 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:24.000 These are the voices of the people who've lived it. 8 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:27.440 To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that 9 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:30.120 just might change the way you see the woods forever. 10 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:33.880 So stay with us, all right, Welcome back to another 11 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:37.320 episode of the Big for Society podcast. We have the 12 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:42.079 privilege of talking to a new friend today. His name 13 00:00:42.320 --> 00:00:48.280 is Filthy, and if you've seen the Instagram account Sasquatch, 14 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:53.200 Underscore Reanimated, this is the individual that's in charge of 15 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:55.640 that and who does all the artwork you're seeing on there. 16 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.240 Is one of my favorites. A lot of really cool 17 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.479 stuff on there, and we'll probably be talking talking about 18 00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:04.439 that later and a little bit of other info about 19 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:08.159 Filthy today, so you know he he hangs out with 20 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:12.439 individuals like you remember me talking to backwoods Bigfoot in 21 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:18.200 episode six forty eight, and he's also research partners and 22 00:01:18.239 --> 00:01:23.959 bandmates with Chris from episode eight fifty one, both of 23 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:28.480 those super Great Oregon episodes. I would recommend you check 24 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:30.599 those out as well. But you know, we're going to 25 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:33.959 be talking to Filthy about the things that he's experienced 26 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:37.480 over the years. It's going to be a good chat. 27 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:39.519 Welcome to the show, Filthy. How are you doing today? 28 00:01:39.519 --> 00:01:44.120 Man? Thanks Jeremiah. I'm good. I'm real good. How are you? 29 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:47.799 I'm doing great. I just I always have a few 30 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:52.560 interviews in the afternoon and getting ready for the summer 31 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:57.359 to hit dudes, so cannot complain. And man, so let's 32 00:01:57.640 --> 00:01:59.560 what before we do? I want to make sure that 33 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:03.959 we talk a little bit about Sasquatch Underscore Reanimated is 34 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:06.840 really really cool stuff. So what's the story behind what 35 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:07.799 you're doing over there? 36 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:16.199 Well, at first, it just started out me just drawing 37 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:20.439 some of the things that I experience out in the field, 38 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:26.840 some things that I've experienced in life, and I started 39 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:31.280 getting uh, I started posting it and then getting contacted 40 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:35.439 by people telling as soon as I started posting it, 41 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:38.039 I'm getting hit up by people like, hey, this is 42 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:40.800 what happened to me, you know, telling me all about 43 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:44.439 their own bigfoot encounters and their sasquatch encounters or whatever. 44 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:51.520 So I started, you know, drawing other people's encounters and 45 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:54.159 then I actually even like send them the original art 46 00:02:54.199 --> 00:03:00.000 and sign it and everything. For me, it's just fun. 47 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:02.479 It gives me something to draw. I'm drawing all the 48 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:09.039 time anyway, So it's also another way of giving back 49 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:13.800 to that to the community where someone can have like 50 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:19.879 an illustrated piece of art to remember their own encounter. 51 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:24.599 They can show their family and friends. You know, it's 52 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:27.759 not gonna be you know, an exact interpretation. It's gonna 53 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:32.599 be my my artist rendition, but it's gonna be cool. 54 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:34.879 You know, it's gonna be like something that they can 55 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:36.599 hold on to for the rest of their lives. And 56 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:40.400 for me, like I said, I'm willing to do it, 57 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:43.400 and it's just it's just fun for me. 58 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:44.960 That's awesome. 59 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:48.280 Yeah, And I've met a lot of really really cool 60 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:52.840 people through the whole process too, people who you know, 61 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:58.120 I've been you know, sharing notes with I've got people, 62 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:00.800 I mean, I'm telling you, I've got people all over 63 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:05.800 the world who are out in the field doing the 64 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:10.599 same thing I'm doing, and it's really cool to hear 65 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:14.360 these stories, you know, from Scotland, you know, and from 66 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:21.480 Australia and Vermont and Oregon, and you know, I talk 67 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:23.399 to people all over the place that are dealing with 68 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:27.639 these things and I met them all through that through 69 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:29.399 Sasqutch Reanimated. 70 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:34.560 That's so cool, Filthy, what is your main medium that 71 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:37.279 you're using to create this art? 72 00:04:38.560 --> 00:04:44.439 Colored pencils on black like card stock paper. 73 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.759 That blows my mind because when I'm looking at this artwork, 74 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:51.560 I'm like, I have no idea how he is doing this, 75 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:53.759 but it is the coolest thing ever, and like just 76 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.600 to know that it is like it's it's colored pencils 77 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:02.439 and like something that I mean, I feel like anyone 78 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:04.439 can use colored pencils, but to use them in a 79 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:07.439 way to create art like this like that, that takes 80 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:11.000 a special talent. So hats hats off to you man, 81 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:14.240 thank you for sharing about that. So I'll have out 82 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:16.839 of the link down in the show notes, so you know, 83 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:20.560 listeners can definitely go over throw you follow check out 84 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:24.920 your work. You'll definitely want to to keep up to 85 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:27.199 date with with what Filthy is doing over there. But 86 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:31.360 you know, so so filthy. Let's let's get into it. So, 87 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:36.000 what was it that first introduced you to the world 88 00:05:36.040 --> 00:05:38.720 of Bigfoot? Was an experience you had, or maybe a 89 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:39.879 TV show or. 90 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:44.600 Well, for me, it was a long time ago, a 91 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:48.959 couple of decades ago. It was an experience I had. 92 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:54.480 But the thing is, I didn't know that just had 93 00:05:54.519 --> 00:06:00.800 anything to do with saft watch up until you know, 94 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:05.560 two decades later. Almost I had no idea what I 95 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:13.600 dealt with back in what the early two thousands. It 96 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:17.600 was just so trippy and so out there at the time, 97 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:19.600 I had no idea about any of the stuff I 98 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:24.000 know now. So to me, I just wrote it off 99 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:32.560 as like possible, paranormal or even possible. I thought I 100 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:38.079 was having like a an insane trip. I didn't know 101 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:42.600 what was going on. And it was years later that 102 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.839 the puzzle started coming together. And it was in a 103 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:50.319 funny way too. It was like, you know, I kind 104 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:53.240 of forgot about it. I kind of just like put 105 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:57.600 it in the back of my mind. And one day 106 00:06:57.639 --> 00:06:59.439 me and my wife were sitting in a living room 107 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:02.040 and it was like during the time of like Finding 108 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:05.240 Bigfoot was coming out and stuff. So you would see 109 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:08.480 those commercials on TV all the time, the Finding Bigfoot commercials, 110 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:14.120 and there was that one that was like Matt Moneymaker, 111 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:16.480 He's like, I think there's a squatch in these woods. 112 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:19.240 And me and my wife thought that was super hilarious 113 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:22.759 at the time. Yeah, we were laughing. I guess I 114 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:24.879 think there's a squatch in these woods. And it showed like, 115 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.040 you know, the whole group of the guys in the 116 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:31.199 woods that night, banging trees and screaming, and oh, I 117 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:34.120 thought it was hilarious. So, you know, I didn't even 118 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:37.560 watch it then. I just kept seeing the commercial though 119 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:39.680 over and over, and one day I'm like, you know what, 120 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:43.279 I don't watch this seeing what the hell this is 121 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:49.000 all about. And then as I'm watching the show and 122 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:52.959 hearing you know, encounters and people talking about you know, 123 00:07:54.040 --> 00:08:00.120 just tasquatch. Yeah, the puzzle pieces started coming together and 124 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:04.720 it like hit me like a ton of bricks. Like 125 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:10.439 So my first encounter, which I've already talked about on 126 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:14.319 a couple other podcasts, best place to really hear like 127 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:20.360 the full encounter super detailed would be on The Bigfoot 128 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:27.639 Crossroads episode one sixty two. They destroyed our camp with Matt. 129 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.920 That's where I got really super detailed about that encounter. 130 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:34.039 If you want to hear it, I'll go over a 131 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:36.559 little bit about it today, but I want to stick 132 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:39.120 more to like the stuff that's going on in the 133 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:45.480 recent years. But yeah, I started watching the show and 134 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:50.039 as I'm watching it, people are starting to say things 135 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:55.000 verbatim of what happened to me, and I'm like, holy crap, 136 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:58.279 this is what this was, you know. And I'm like, 137 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.720 I'm like, I went like making fun of the whole thing, 138 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:04.960 and you know, laughing about it and running around the 139 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:09.000 house like peeking around corners to my wife, you know, 140 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:12.000 I think there's a squatch in here, you know, like 141 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:18.200 totally making a freaking mockery of it to like, holy nikes, man, 142 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.080 this is what happened to me. So first thing I 143 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:26.440 heard was the scream. Someone had mentioned that they heard 144 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:29.320 a scream, and when they said it sounded like a 145 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:32.919 woman getting murdered in the woods with like a lion 146 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:36.480 roar in the background at the same time. That's what 147 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:38.840 really hit me. I was like, Wow, that's the first 148 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:45.600 thing that happens and in our really terrifying night me 149 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:50.200 and my friend years ago, was this scream that stopped 150 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:55.879 us in our place and vibrated through our body. I've 151 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:58.519 said in the past the only thing that could compare 152 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:02.039 to that level of noise was when I was at 153 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:05.679 a Motorhead show and I was standing literally like two 154 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:08.840 feet from Lemmy's bass amp and he came on and 155 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:13.840 started playing overkill and the sound of the bass amp 156 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:17.600 mixed with the double kick drum, like that vibration is 157 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:20.440 what I felt in that screen, like just like that 158 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:26.279 just penetrating my whole body. So that was the first thing. 159 00:10:27.080 --> 00:10:34.519 Second thing someone mentioned the trees started shaking, exactly what happened. 160 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:37.120 Next it was the screen and then it was like, 161 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.679 you know, the tree shaking. Someone else on Finding Bigfoot 162 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:44.679 said something about them pushing trees over, which is also 163 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:49.639 something that happened. Someone was mentioning that they were camping 164 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:52.200 and getting like pine cones and rocks thrown at them. 165 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.320 That also happened. So yeah, I just started putting all 166 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:00.600 these pieces together, and slowly over time was like it 167 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:03.080 came to the realization of what actually happened to me 168 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:11.799 years ago. And we actually did put eyes on the creature, 169 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:18.600 but at the time it was on all fours, like 170 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:21.720 we didn't know what that thing was. So, I, who's 171 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:24.919 gonna think Bigfoot when you see this thing that looks 172 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.759 like a eight foot spider on the ground, running at 173 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:33.039 full speed on its like hands and bent all weird, 174 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.559 you know, like it just looked like something out of 175 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.879 a nightmare. So I didn't put I didn't put all 176 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.799 that together. Then, you know, I hear something about it 177 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:49.440 could have been on maybe maybe like an old Sasquatch 178 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:53.799 Chronicles podcast where someone was talking about the spider crawl, 179 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:57.679 and yeah, that's when I was like, holy crap, that's 180 00:11:57.720 --> 00:12:03.279 exactly what I saw, you know. So that's how I 181 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:04.519 got introduced to. 182 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:12.360 The whole things that yeah, incredible, Wow this happened. Did 183 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:13.440 you say in New Jersey? 184 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:14.639 Yes? 185 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.799 Mm hmm okay? Was so was this in the pine 186 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:19.360 bearings then? 187 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:26.279 Or yes? Okay, So there's multiple pine barrens in New Jersey. 188 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:32.559 There's multiple sections. You know, over the years, I've noticed 189 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:39.159 on maps those sections getting smaller and smaller, with you know, 190 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:43.799 everything in New Jersey being so built up. Every everything, 191 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:47.879 there's always construction going on. There's always you know, complexes 192 00:12:47.960 --> 00:12:51.679 being built, and it's it's really sad because New Jersey 193 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:53.559 is the small state and it used to be like 194 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:59.679 heavily wooded. But you know, it's sad to see those 195 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:03.399 woods going bye by as the years go on, I 196 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:06.879 know it. But yeah, I mean there's multiple sections of 197 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:11.120 pine barren areas in New Jersey and they're all kind 198 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:16.000 of connected from like south to North Jersey. I mean, 199 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:20.039 you could probably get through that whole area without being detected. 200 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:25.200 Got it's got some pretty thick forested areas, especially towards 201 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:31.759 West New Jersey, south west New Jersey, and I mean 202 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:36.080 I'm talking like the thickest of thick you know, Appalachia 203 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:37.759 style kind of forests. You know. 204 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:43.240 Oh, it's it's some wild stuff. And New Jersey's come 205 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:45.679 up a few times on the show, the areas where 206 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:49.840 Filthy is talking about. But so we're that's where you 207 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:51.919 started out, and we're gonna say, I'm going to have 208 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:59.440 the description to Bigfoot Crossroads down in the description of 209 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:03.840 the show the episode, So after this, if you want 210 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:05.879 to hear a little bit more and hear the whole story, 211 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:10.600 go over there. But we want to focus on there's 212 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:17.279 some some some wild stuff you've been happening or you've 213 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:20.639 been into the last few years, So feel free to 214 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:22.919 we'll talk about that. 215 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:27.879 Yeah, I'll talk a little about the New Jersey County, 216 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.559 just like a little summary of what happened, so new 217 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:34.759 people can that haven't heard it can just get a 218 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:38.000 little understanding of what happened. So I was a kid. 219 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:42.399 I ran away from home at a really really young age. 220 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:47.159 I grew up in an abusive house. So I left, 221 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:52.120 went to New York City, lived on the streets, was 222 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:57.120 hiding from the law. I was ripping down posters of 223 00:14:57.200 --> 00:15:00.519 my face on the on buildings and walls because you know, 224 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:02.879 I was on the missing person's list and I didn't 225 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:06.000 want anyone to find me. And it ended up just 226 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:09.080 being super stressful. So me and my a friend who 227 00:15:09.240 --> 00:15:12.159 also ran away, decided that we were going to go 228 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:15.639 live in the woods. And I had some experience in 229 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:19.000 the woods growing up. My dad lived in the Pine 230 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:21.799 Barrens growing up, so I knew the I knew the 231 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:27.200 Pine Barrens pretty well. I also had some books, one 232 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:32.559 in particular, like the Sas Survival Book that I was 233 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:36.480 super into bushcraft and all that kind of stuff. Was 234 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:39.600 always fun for me when I was really young, learning 235 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.360 like little stuff like that. So I had some experience. 236 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:48.679 So either way, we ended up, you know, going out 237 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:53.720 into the woods and making a camp pretty pretty far in, 238 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:56.600 and we had a friend that lived kind of close 239 00:15:56.639 --> 00:16:00.840 by and we were able to like walk to his 240 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.200 house sometimes in the shower if we wanted to, and 241 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:06.080 get on AOL and chat with our friends and all 242 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:10.639 that kind of stuff and eat all his food. Yeah, 243 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:13.840 we ended up living in the woods and had these 244 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.080 things start happening that we noticed but didn't have any 245 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:20.240 idea what it was like. We had pine cones thrown 246 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:24.000 at the tent and little pebbles tossed all the like. 247 00:16:24.039 --> 00:16:27.399 We'd always find him on top of our tent. We 248 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:32.559 built like a perimeter fence around the camp just as 249 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:35.399 a precaution. We didn't know what was out there. We 250 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:42.000 heard walking bipedal walking, like literally walking in like a 251 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:44.519 circle around our camp from like fifty yards out like 252 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:54.879 all night, that swish noise like of leaves all night, 253 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:57.360 just in a big circle around their tent, you know, 254 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:04.119 stuff like that, whistles. We were out there for about 255 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:07.799 a year and a half or so, a long time, 256 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:13.839 and we were pretty obnoxious kids too. We were we 257 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:16.880 were like street punks. We had like lots of loud music, 258 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:22.799 going on big fires, breaking stuff, you know, so I'm 259 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:26.160 sure whoever was living there wasn't too happy with us, 260 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:31.839 just put it that way. So, yeah, it kind of 261 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:39.039 accelerated as the longer we stayed there, things started getting weirder. 262 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:42.559 We had no idea what was going on. We thought 263 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:47.119 it was haunted. We thought so many different things, like 264 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:50.519 maybe there's like a hermit living near us. We didn't 265 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:54.839 know what was going on, but you know, we just 266 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:59.440 dealt with it, and you're, you know, like a year 267 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:01.240 or so later, one night, we were hanging out with 268 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:05.960 our friends in New York City and having fun and 269 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:10.559 he drops us off later that night and we're doing 270 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:16.200 our same normal walk into the woods like we always did, 271 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:23.960 and that's when we were stopped with that insane screen that, 272 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:26.400 like I said, sounded like a woman getting murdered and 273 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:29.880 like a t rex or like a lion. You know. 274 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:35.160 It's got that crazy like double sound to it, the 275 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:39.160 high pitched screen with like the the basy growl kind 276 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:43.599 of sound as well, and both of us stopped in 277 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:47.359 our tracks and kind of looked at each other like 278 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:52.279 what was that. So we just started running, you know, 279 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:56.799 toward our camp, and that scream happened a few more times. 280 00:18:56.799 --> 00:19:03.039 We heard walking, we heard tree shape. It was terrifying, 281 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:06.960 and we finally were running full speed. We finally get 282 00:19:07.000 --> 00:19:10.519 to like this little opening to where we can walk 283 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:15.200 into our camp, which was pretty hidden chucked away in 284 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:19.599 like a thick, thick part of the woods. And we 285 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:22.640 get to our camp and the whole camp is completely gone. 286 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:26.440 There's trees piled on top of it, big trees that 287 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:31.759 were pushed over like a lot too. I mean, it 288 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:35.720 was destroyed. So we had we were like freaking out. 289 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:39.319 We were like, holy s, what do we do? So 290 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:44.920 we were like we ran out. We saw more tree shaking, 291 00:19:45.480 --> 00:19:50.079 we saw a giant root ball getting smacked between two trees, 292 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:52.319 and dirt just flying everywhere, and it was just like 293 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:57.200 this loud, insane, crackling, thumping noise. That's when we like 294 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:03.519 dove into like this dug out ditch that was built 295 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:07.960 by I believe, like dirt bikers or BMX kind of dudes. 296 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:11.759 They had some like you know, an area back there 297 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.720 where they would go and do that kind of stuff. 298 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:20.200 So we literally dove into this like giant hole and 299 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:24.839 we're just sitting in there like shaking, like terrified, hearing 300 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:28.680 all this stuff around us and we peek out of 301 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:33.440 the hole and we're looking around and one of us 302 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:37.599 noticed is a figure that's standing in this dead oak 303 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:42.839 tree far away. It was probably like, I don't know, 304 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:46.079 seventy five yards or so. I don't know. I'm not 305 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:51.599 great with that kind of stuff, but it's standing there. 306 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:56.519 I thought it looked like someone like hanging on on 307 00:20:56.599 --> 00:20:58.519 like a branch of this tree. And I'm like, what 308 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:02.359 is that? And both of us saw it drop down 309 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:05.640 onto the ground where it kind of looked like that 310 00:21:05.720 --> 00:21:06.519 giant spider. 311 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:25.440 My goodness, Filter you're still there. 312 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:32.240 I don't know. That's weird. 313 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:38.880 Hello, hey dude, Sorry, I don't know what happened there, Man, 314 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:39.640 that was weird. 315 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:45.240 I know. I don't know how long I was talking 316 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:45.880 to myself for. 317 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:48.480 It could have been a while. The last thing I 318 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:51.519 heard was like you had just started to talk about 319 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:53.279 how it it looked like a spider. 320 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:58.839 Yeah, I've been Forbes. 321 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.680 Weird stuff happens, like I don't know, man, there's a 322 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:04.880 weird text stuff all the time on this jazz. I 323 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:08.680 don't know what's going on. Yeah, So sorry about that. 324 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:09.440 We're still. 325 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:15.759 Okay cool. Yeah, So so we're back to the spider 326 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:23.680 crawl Okay, So this thing whatever it was, dropped out 327 00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:29.000 of the tree, got to the ground, like hit the 328 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:35.160 ground on all fours like a spider, and was running 329 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:41.039 around us. But it was doing like a weird kind 330 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:45.200 of laugh, like a mix between like a hyena and 331 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:49.359 like a howler monkey, like coming through a speaker. It 332 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:57.480 was very bizarre, not natural kind of sound. So we're 333 00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:00.400 in this hole that we found, this dugout hole from 334 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:05.400 these dart bikers, and we're shaking, we're pissing ourselves, we're 335 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:10.920 freaking out. We don't know what's going on. One thing 336 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:13.839 I left out was my uh my buddy was getting 337 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:20.480 messages in his head. I don't think I've ever mentioned that. 338 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:24.000 I might have, I don't know. He was getting messages 339 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:29.720 in his head to leave now. I could kill you. 340 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:32.400 All this weird stuff, and I was just like, what 341 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:35.480 the hell is going on? This is why I thought 342 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:38.359 we were like tripping on acid or something. For years, 343 00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:42.079 I was like, I don't know, someone slipped us something like. 344 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:46.119 It just felt so bizarre because when you grew up 345 00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:48.240 in New Jersey and New York City, you don't hear 346 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:50.880 about any of this kind of stuff. You don't you 347 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:54.000 don't know that this stuff is so close to home, 348 00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:56.960 like you don't just you just don't picture it happening. 349 00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:02.000 Just sounds like rubbish in my opinion, like back then, 350 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:06.119 you know, like but yeah, all this stuff is happening. 351 00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:11.519 The thing's running around us, kicking sand, kicking dirt rocks, whatever, 352 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:18.079 and we're just like freaking out in this hole. Another 353 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:23.319 thing I never mentioned was there was like a weird 354 00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:28.839 chunk of time just missing. I don't know, I don't 355 00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:35.799 know why. It's just like the sun just started coming up. 356 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:41.559 It was just so weird how trauma just affects you. 357 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:43.920 I don't know if it was that. But then once 358 00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:46.240 the sun came up, we were just we looked out 359 00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:50.720 of that hole that we were in and I thought 360 00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:52.880 it was a good time to make a run for it, 361 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:57.440 and we just started running. And as we're running out, 362 00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:03.559 we're getting paralleled by something. And we crossed this road 363 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:08.359 into another section of woods goes down into this ravine area, 364 00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:11.880 and we hear this car that was coming down the 365 00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:16.160 road just screech and skid and go off the road 366 00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:19.440 into like trees and bushes. I don't know if that 367 00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:27.440 was related to the creatures that were chasing us. But 368 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:30.440 we didn't stick around to find out. We just kept 369 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:34.200 going and we found some railroad tracks and we just 370 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:38.400 followed them out and we did not stop moving our 371 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.720 feet for about eighteen to twenty miles. We were just going. 372 00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:44.960 We were just gone. We wanted nothing to do with that. 373 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:49.960 We left all our stuff. We never went back for it. 374 00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:54.079 It's probably still sitting there today under a pile of lumber. 375 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:02.359 So yeah, that was That was the summary of that 376 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:10.599 encounter that got me into this whole subject. It was horrifying, 377 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:12.559 to be honest, like, and like I said, I had 378 00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:16.279 no idea what it was. Like, what what are you 379 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:21.119 gonna think when you see an eight foot Harry spider 380 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:25.079 that's laughing? Like what? Like makes no sense. 381 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:31.240 I'm surprised you're still in the subject after that. I mean, 382 00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:35.640 I know most people would would just not even run 383 00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:38.400 away physically, they'd run away mentally from that and never 384 00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:40.920 have anything to do with Bigfoot again. I mean, that 385 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:42.240 would just destroy him. 386 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.559 Dude. Yeah, well, I didn't know what it was up 387 00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:50.319 like until years later, so I didn't know. But you know, 388 00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:55.599 when I did come to that realization, one thing that 389 00:26:55.880 --> 00:27:00.480 I that really hit hard was the fact that they 390 00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:04.759 never hurt us ever. They never threw a rock at 391 00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:08.240 our head. They never did any of that. They could 392 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:10.599 have knocked trees down on top of us while we 393 00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:13.079 were sleeping and just ended us quickly. No one would 394 00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:16.279 have ever found us. You know, they never did any 395 00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:25.799 of that. It's a level of advanced thought, and I've 396 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:30.720 used that to get over my fear of the woods, 397 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.720 because I was terrified of the woods for years. After that. 398 00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:38.000 I mean, I went down a road of self destruction 399 00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.640 after that. I was just I didn't know what to 400 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.440 think I was. I ended up getting addicted to drugs 401 00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:51.200