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<v Speaker 1>And I just turned around and I call ass out

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<v Speaker 1>of there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was done.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't dealing with them.

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<v Speaker 3>The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things

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<v Speaker 3>that turned me.

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<v Speaker 2>Away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on,

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<v Speaker 2>it turned and looked at us. And one of the

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<v Speaker 2>things I remember the most where the eyes were going red.

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<v Speaker 2>I see an orb of light. It is just circling

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<v Speaker 2>these steps like it is waiting for me.

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<v Speaker 4>And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.

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<v Speaker 2>They're basically like, what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as I made eye contact with this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It don't like death.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to Tinfoil tells. I'm your host, Brandon to I,

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<v Speaker 3>we're joined by my guest Wess. Thanks for coming here

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<v Speaker 3>talking with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Brandon, thanks for having me on the show. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a privilege. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a problem. Would you like to let the audience

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<v Speaker 3>know a little bit about yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, you know I live in Virginia Beach. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast called Enlightenment Unknown Life of a spiritual nomad.

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<v Speaker 2>A friend of mine encouraged me to start that podcast

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<v Speaker 2>and tell a story it happened to me and I

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<v Speaker 2>guess is twenty nineteen. So we talked about this extraordinary

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<v Speaker 2>paranormal experience that I went through for almost a year.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you would like to share that on here,

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely want to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Man, Well there's lots of moving parts. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was. I think we recorded about fifteen sixteen hours

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<v Speaker 2>of it. But basically what happened is I bought this house,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I was gonna in my mind, I

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna marry this girl. We were going to

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<v Speaker 2>adopt her nephew. And when we moved in the house,

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<v Speaker 2>we moved the swimming pool and whatever was in the

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<v Speaker 2>ground where the swimming pool was unlocked something. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the house started to act weird. You know, in some

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<v Speaker 2>of the scary movies, if there's a scene and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, like the hallway gets longer. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if when she and I would start arguing, that would happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really bizarre. I didn't realize that schizophrenia was

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<v Speaker 2>turning on for her. Was on her father's side of

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<v Speaker 2>the family. So when we moved in the house, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the person I was dating quickly became somebody

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know, And so there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>arguments and stuff in the house, and you would start

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<v Speaker 2>hearing music in the walls. It was creepy. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like nineteen twenties music. And if you put your ear

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<v Speaker 2>against the wall, you couldn't hear it. But if you're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in the chair about a foot from the wall,

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<v Speaker 2>you could hear it. And you know, long story short,

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<v Speaker 2>she was gone, she moved out of the house, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was sitting in the bedroom one evening with my dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>I was eating the ice cream sandwich, and about ten

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock at night, you heard these lions wore down in

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<v Speaker 2>the dining room. I mean it was nobody could have

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<v Speaker 2>created that sound. A human could not have made it

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<v Speaker 2>that loud. A human could not have done that. And

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind, Brandon I was like, hey, dogs, go

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<v Speaker 2>be dogs, and you know they didn't go. So I

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<v Speaker 2>went downstairs with my weapon, and as I came around

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<v Speaker 2>the corner, there is this demon there. It's like somebody

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<v Speaker 2>took fifty pounds of shaved black chalk and threw it

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<v Speaker 2>in the air. You see its eyes, its horns, and frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>it was I think it was as startled to see

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<v Speaker 2>me as I was to see it. So as I

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<v Speaker 2>backed up, it ran upstairs and one of the dogs

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<v Speaker 2>was a German shepherd and the other was a Yorky

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<v Speaker 2>and the Yorky barked at it, and I couldn't find

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<v Speaker 2>it after that. But you know, the house was goofy

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<v Speaker 2>prior to that, Brandon, but after this, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>paranormal stuff in that place just started going nuts. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you would close the bedroom door and you clearly see

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<v Speaker 2>people walking by, but with the security camera I bought

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the bedroom door, there's nothing there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, I guess that lasted for a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks, and then one evening, the uh the

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<v Speaker 2>lights down in the in the dining room were flickering,

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<v Speaker 2>so it had you know those Edison bobs. There's little

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<v Speaker 2>forty what balls you could put in your dining room. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's enough to see something, but that's about it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever was there was making that light bulb look like

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was right than the headlight in your truck.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I went downstairs, me being me, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, this is a house f and God

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<v Speaker 2>and cut the crap. And I turned the light switch off.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't even know why I said that about God,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just that was not normally, that was

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<v Speaker 2>not my vocabulary back then. But the second I did,

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<v Speaker 2>you could feel an energy in that house and anger.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's like it bled through the walls. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the most bizarre experience. And one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that started happening in the house when it got really

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<v Speaker 2>demonic in the house, the lights in the kitchen would

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<v Speaker 2>turn blue. Have you ever heard of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Not blue, but I've heard of the lights like flickering

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff, but never changing color.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this thing turned blue. Never did figure that out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's not a blue light bulb in the light, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I started heading upstairs and I started

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<v Speaker 2>looking around, and you know, there's this fog started to

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<v Speaker 2>appear this miss and I'm like, man, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>So I went into the bedroom. It was a big house.

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<v Speaker 2>It had two doors going into the master bedroom that

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<v Speaker 2>were three feet wide, and with the doors closed, you

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<v Speaker 2>could see the light around, you know, around the sides

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<v Speaker 2>of the door. Right, so you could see that coming through.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the time I got up there, I was

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<v Speaker 2>so creeped out. I closed the door and I had

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<v Speaker 2>some string and I tied the door shut. And as

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<v Speaker 2>I backed up and I was sitting on the bed

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<v Speaker 2>just watching, and all of a sudden, you didn't hear music.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a party in the other side, on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of the door. It was like a nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>twenties party. There's people talking. You could clearly hear multiple

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<v Speaker 2>people walking up and down the stairs. And when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking on the security cameras through the there's nothing there,

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<v Speaker 2>but you could see where this fog was getting thicker

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<v Speaker 2>and thicker. And I don't know that lasted a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of minutes. So Texans and friends they're like, hey, call

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<v Speaker 2>the cops. I'm like, okay, hey, Brandon, call the cops.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, see if you'll go to the nuthouse tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, about that time, I don't know what was

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<v Speaker 2>walking down the hallway, but something, you know, I'm two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty pounds, six foot one, and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>afterwards jump up and down and stomp to get the

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<v Speaker 2>same effect that whatever was walking down the hall was

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<v Speaker 2>shaking the entire upstairs, and uh so it came down

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<v Speaker 2>the hallway and you could hear it where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>its feet came together. You could tell it turned to

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<v Speaker 2>facing my door, and so I'm looking at the security

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<v Speaker 2>camera and you don't see anything on the other side

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<v Speaker 2>of the door, but on my side of the door,

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<v Speaker 2>the light around the frame of the door was solid black.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there was no light coming through whatsoever. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, what in the world. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 2>panicked at that time. I mean, at this point, it

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<v Speaker 2>had probably been about a month, month and a half

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<v Speaker 2>a weird stuff. You know. We did some we had

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<v Speaker 2>some people come over and they blessed the house. And

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<v Speaker 2>when we were doing that, you could hear every single

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<v Speaker 2>window in the house tap, like something was tapping to

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<v Speaker 2>get out. And so we would open all the windows

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<v Speaker 2>and you would hear it. It's like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>windows cranked out, so you would hear it tapping on

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<v Speaker 2>the way out, and you know, dude, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>super bizarre. So our friends are like, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>can't be real. You know, you need to call the police.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I sat there and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna retired Marie, and I said, you know, f this,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take care of it myself. And as

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<v Speaker 2>the second I said that, and I grabbed my servant,

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<v Speaker 2>my weapon again whatever that was, kicked the door and

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<v Speaker 2>had the string not been tied on there as actually

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<v Speaker 2>as like a parachute rope, that door would have came

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<v Speaker 2>flying open. And I'm like, hey man, I'm gonna wait

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes before I beat your ass, all right, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I was. I was clearly shaken, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know what to do. So, you know, my human

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<v Speaker 2>mind said, oh, there's there's an electrical fire. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>the smoke is. You know, the other stuff I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but that you know that that fog or whatever is smoke.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I untied the door, and when I did,

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<v Speaker 2>I stepped into the hallway and it was instantly it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like it's below zero. I've never been so cold,

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<v Speaker 2>instantly in my life, shivering from head to toe. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I ski in short so I don't get cold,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was. I was. I was instantly shaking, and

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<v Speaker 2>the whole upstairs was basically filled with this fog. And

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<v Speaker 2>in the center of the fog, it was like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. It was like it was swirling. There was

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<v Speaker 2>like a like a like a thunderstorm is what it

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<v Speaker 2>looked like in the center of it, just swirling really slow.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I stepped back in the bedroom. I'm like, dude, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on, but you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble. So I tied the door. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>stepped back into the room, I realized something came in

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<v Speaker 2>the room with me because as I'm standing there, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's like this wind blowing in my face, like something

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<v Speaker 2>was screaming at me. But there's I mean, the ceiling

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<v Speaker 2>fan wasn't on. There there was no wind in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the bedroom. And I remember how startled I was.

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<v Speaker 2>And I stepped back and I you know, I probably

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<v Speaker 2>cussed at it and told her to get off me,

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<v Speaker 2>and and it's like it made it more angry. And

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<v Speaker 2>then it just came at me and it was my

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I kind of keep fairly short hair. My

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<v Speaker 2>hair was blowing. I remember how strange that was. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>my hair doesn't really blow unless it's you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>car windows down or something. And uh, you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>we moved into the house, I could feel my mom

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<v Speaker 2>all the time in there, and when her nephew would

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<v Speaker 2>come over and play, we would take pictures and you

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<v Speaker 2>would see like these little distorted like orbs or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>next to his head. And yeah, I knew my mom

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<v Speaker 2>was there, and I just felt her presence, and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember I just started I started to cry and I said, Mom,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I know you're scared. Because as the house

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<v Speaker 2>got darker, the less I felt her. It was almost

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<v Speaker 2>like she was going in this hole. And and I said, Brandon,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, I pleaded with her. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to help me. And instantly, whatever's blow was

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<v Speaker 2>was just was just gone, just gone. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the door didn't have to be open or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was just gone out of the room. So

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<v Speaker 2>left shoulder and I jumped. And you know, when my

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I felt. That's where the coldness was on

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<v Speaker 2>both of those So you know, I know for my

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<v Speaker 2>that out that was out, And so this went on

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<v Speaker 2>for like probably twenty five minutes. And so I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the security cameras the entire upstairs. You couldn't the

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<v Speaker 2>was so thick, and uh, you know, I wasn't going

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<v Speaker 2>and so I contemplated taking my weapon with me. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>that hallway and not being able to see six inches

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<v Speaker 2>in front of you was terrifying. I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be there. And when I got downstairs,

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<v Speaker 2>instantly it was so bright I couldn't see anything. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I grabbed my dog, my weapon, and three ice

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<v Speaker 2>cream sandwiches, my keys to the camper, and I started

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping in the camper. But that was the night that

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<v Speaker 2>things started to get crazy. But this this lasted nine

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<v Speaker 2>ten months, and you know, there was a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>exorcisms I had to go through. There was a Native

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<v Speaker 2>American rebirthing ceremony where I had to dig my own

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<v Speaker 2>grave and energetically die, and then I was reborn trying

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<v Speaker 2>to fix this stuff. You know, the priest comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the house and I'm picked up and thrown against the

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<v Speaker 2>wall in front of thrown backwards like at a forty

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<v Speaker 2>five degree angle to the ceiling, up against the wall

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<v Speaker 2>in front of six people. And you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like every single day it got more and more bizarre,

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<v Speaker 2>more crazy. And you know I could tell you I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't I wouldn't recommend it, and I wouldn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>go through it again. I've never been scared. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you go into combat and you're you're scared. You're scared

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<v Speaker 2>to get married, You're scared, you're gonna be you know,

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<v Speaker 2>your child's coming it's scary being a parent, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is a level of fear that seeps into your bones

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't control your shaking. It was that bad.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just you know, there's so many different

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<v Speaker 2>ways I could talk about in the story, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something crawling down my throat at one point, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>helping these slaves cross over that had been there. We

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<v Speaker 2>figured that we came to the conclusion as best we

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<v Speaker 2>could that there was a slave ship that had docked

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<v Speaker 2>where my house was. That was actually an old port

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<v Speaker 2>there at one point that we believe that there was

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<v Speaker 2>slaves taken from Africa that had died on the ship

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<v Speaker 2>and they just threw in a hole. And when we

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<v Speaker 2>opened the swimming pool, it created some kind of portal

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<v Speaker 2>or something that allowed all this demonic energy to come out.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it was a lot, man, it was a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>They claimed water could channel energy too, so with the

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<v Speaker 3>pool and everything else, it could have been a way

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<v Speaker 3>for them to feed off of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was a little finger leaning of water back

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<v Speaker 2>behind the house and did that. That was bizarre. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you go back there and it would almost you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like they had the tar pits in Los Angeles and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff is like the water would bubble like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up meeting this healer, this lady named sander

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<v Speaker 2>Grace Brooks, and dude, sander Grace always had a smile

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<v Speaker 2>on her face, laughed all the time. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people went to her to be healed and she and

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<v Speaker 2>she did that work. I didn't understand what it was

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, and we did a ceremony in the

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<v Speaker 2>backyard trying to fix that. And one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that did happen is afterwards the water, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>water didn't bubble and gurgle like it was before a

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<v Speaker 2>fish started to jump in there. It was every day

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<v Speaker 2>was a you know, like what in the world is happening?

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<v Speaker 2>At a level ten every single day. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>the worst night the worst night out of all of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's saying something, because there was so much. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had been living in the camper on the sideyard,

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<v Speaker 2>so the house was about forty eight hundred square foot

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<v Speaker 2>and it was more the land was more wide than deep.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a little fingerling in the water back there,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a detached garage and you know it was

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<v Speaker 2>put in in a swimming pool, and you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make it nice. And in my mind that

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be my last house I was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>gonna buy, so I wanted to do some cool things

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<v Speaker 2>to it. And so I'm living in the camper and

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<v Speaker 2>it was our It was fourth of July weekend and

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<v Speaker 2>my family goes to the Outer Banks, North Carolina for

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks every year, so I was supposed to call

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<v Speaker 2>down for three days, and uh so I got somebody

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<v Speaker 2>to watch my German shepherd. At that time, the YORKI

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<v Speaker 2>had gone to live with her mom, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we had done this big ceremony at the house a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days before. But previous to that, I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up talking to this woman from Madagascar, Madagascar, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was spending my days calling people trying to fix

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff, and the lady wasn't nice Brandon. She goes, look,

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<v Speaker 2>you're too fing stupid for me to explain it to you.

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<v Speaker 2>But every time you do a he on the house,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, blessed or whatever, you're actually giving it more power.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know when she said that that was right,

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<v Speaker 2>because it was I didn't really verbalize it before that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it did. But you know, have you ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, have you ever come across that of giving

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<v Speaker 3>things power?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the house is haunted, you go in there

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<v Speaker 2>and you're trying to fix the haunted house. It gets

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<v Speaker 2>better for a couple of days, but then it comes

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<v Speaker 2>back even more powerful. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the exact words are for it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I've heard if you basically feed the energy by

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<v Speaker 3>acknowledging it mm hm. So if you're trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>rid of it, you're giving it power by basically acknowledging

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<v Speaker 3>that it's there. Okay, And depending on what type of

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<v Speaker 3>entity this is or what type of energy it is, like,

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<v Speaker 3>it can grow stronger if you're not doing it properly.

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<v Speaker 3>So it might leave, but it comes back and it's

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<v Speaker 3>got more power because you fed into it, and now

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<v Speaker 3>it's feeding off of that fear that you have of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know, maybe that's that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 4>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>We did not listen to her warning and we did

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<v Speaker 2>this this healing session and fourth of July weekend was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the things you could do is look

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<v Speaker 2>at the security cameras, and you know, if you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the outside of security cameras, everything on my property

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<v Speaker 2>at night would vibrate like somebody is shaking their hand

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth. But when you would see where the

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<v Speaker 2>line of the property is, like where your house might be,

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<v Speaker 2>the trees were perfectly normal, and you look in the

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<v Speaker 2>house and where clearly you should see a window, the

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<v Speaker 2>energy flowing in there from these portals that were coming

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<v Speaker 2>to the house was so intense you couldn't even see

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<v Speaker 2>the window. And so there was like four or five

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<v Speaker 2>portals like bringing stuff in. So I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like like there was portals bringing souls in,

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<v Speaker 2>and these demonic energies were feeding off of them, and

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<v Speaker 2>the house was getting more and more and more powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>So I head down to the outer Banks for three

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<v Speaker 2>days and I get down there and I'm just fixated

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<v Speaker 2>at staring at my phone, looking at the security camera,

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<v Speaker 2>seeing what's going on in the house. And I quickly

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<v Speaker 2>realized that that extra ceremony we did. You know, previous

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<v Speaker 2>to that, you could stand in the yard and you

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<v Speaker 2>were fine. You can stand in the garage, you were fine.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you went in the house, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>could feel it, you could see them. And one of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that would happen if I go in the house,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all I would think about was doing drugs

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<v Speaker 2>and kill myself, and I would step across that threshold

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<v Speaker 2>and those thoughts would be gone. So I did not

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<v Speaker 2>like to go in the house. And but well you

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<v Speaker 2>could tell that it was basically for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>contained in the home at that time. But this weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>that weekend, when I was looking at the cameras, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when I seen the trees and stuff shaking for the

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<v Speaker 2>very first time. So I realized what we did made

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<v Speaker 2>it so powerful that it was able to leave the

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<v Speaker 2>confines of the house and take over the property. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, well, you know that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>was stressing me out a good bit. So I left

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<v Speaker 2>the next morning really early because I wanted to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I needed I wanted to get the camper off the property,

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<v Speaker 2>and I needed to find somewhere to stay. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I got home and messed around for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>but I ended up staying in a hotel that night.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I was getting dressed and stuff, I realized

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<v Speaker 2>that the demons. This is the first time the demons

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<v Speaker 2>were able to follow me, and I just felt them

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<v Speaker 2>in the room and I could take you take a

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<v Speaker 2>picture of your cell phone, and you see these horrible

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<v Speaker 2>faces in the corners of the walls. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Virginia Beach Life fourth weekend. And went down to

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<v Speaker 2>the beach when out with my friends. Came back to

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<v Speaker 2>the room probably one two o'clock in the morning, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I went to sleep. And have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>experienced sleep proalysis?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I get it every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You know. One of the things that I found

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<v Speaker 2>that really helps me not have that is prayers. I

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<v Speaker 2>just asked. I just say, you know, ask my angels, angels, angels,

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<v Speaker 2>will you rap me and protect me while I sleep

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, and it tends to really do

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<v Speaker 2>well for me. But I went to sleep and and

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere through the night I woke up with that sleep proalysis,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, at some point in my mind

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I said, Jesus Christ. And you got to remember, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't grow up in the church. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>anything about the church. I didn't know anything about Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to know anything about Jesus. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was molested as a kid, and in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>if that dude was real, he's gonna, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna save me or something, So you know, I had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of anger there over that, and uh but

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<v Speaker 2>the second I said that, it released me and I

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<v Speaker 2>took this giant gasp of air, and as I did,

419
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<v Speaker 2>whatever was in the room pried my mouth open and

420
00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:44.920
<v Speaker 2>started to crawl down my throat. You know, I could feel,

421
00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:47.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, the muscles being stretched and the bones of

422
00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:52.480
<v Speaker 2>my chest cracking. You could feel it, you could feel

423
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:59.680
<v Speaker 2>it moving the organs, and I remember being so so

424
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.839
<v Speaker 2>terrified and just just I was just sitting there crying,

425
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:09.599
<v Speaker 2>you know. And I've never been so alone before. I'd

426
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:12.519
<v Speaker 2>already been months trying to get somebody to help me,

427
00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:15.519
<v Speaker 2>and now something had crawled into my chest and you

428
00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:17.839
<v Speaker 2>could you know, I was sleeping in a T shirt

429
00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:19.519
<v Speaker 2>and you can see the T shirt and the skin

430
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:24.680
<v Speaker 2>moving underneath of it, and you know, it was it

431
00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:29.359
<v Speaker 2>was an experience that I don't really know how to

432
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:33.880
<v Speaker 2>verbalize how bad that was. And I just remember satting

433
00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:38.519
<v Speaker 2>there sobbing. I was just freaking hysterically crying. I'm like, man,

434
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I'm supposed to do. And I've

435
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.119
<v Speaker 2>never really prayed before, and I just started to pray.

436
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.319
<v Speaker 2>I just said God, I said, I need you to

437
00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:55.960
<v Speaker 2>help me, you know, and I just I just sobbed

438
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and called to him over and over, and you know,

439
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Jesus didn't come, ourk angel, Michael didn't come, you know,

440
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:09.599
<v Speaker 2>these angels didn't come. But at some point I'm laying

441
00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:13.000
<v Speaker 2>in bed and you know, in your hotel room, there's

442
00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:14.440
<v Speaker 2>always like a little light in there so you can

443
00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:19.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of see the room, right, and I still don't

444
00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:22.319
<v Speaker 2>know what it is, but there was these these like

445
00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:27.079
<v Speaker 2>giant tic TACs about bigger than a football. It started

446
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 2>to slowly come down from the ceiling. It was this,

447
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.720
<v Speaker 2>It was the most bizarre thing, but it was the

448
00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:36.519
<v Speaker 2>feeling of the room was if you've ever been out

449
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:38.799
<v Speaker 2>in the woods and it's snowing, how it's like it's

450
00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:44.799
<v Speaker 2>deafening silent. Yeah. Yeah, So you know, these things were

451
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:48.079
<v Speaker 2>floating down all around me and I have no idea

452
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:55.400
<v Speaker 2>what they were, but you know, the pain in my

453
00:26:55.519 --> 00:26:59.319
<v Speaker 2>chest went away, and there was just this sense of

454
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of like, you know, hey man, you know,

455
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:07.359
<v Speaker 2>we see you, we hear you. You know, you know

456
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:12.440
<v Speaker 2>you're not alone. But they didn't save me. And but

457
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.640
<v Speaker 2>that was enough, you know, it was just you know,

458
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:18.440
<v Speaker 2>for the first time through this whole process. And this

459
00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:22.319
<v Speaker 2>started in February, so you know, February, March, April, May, June.

460
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, your five, five plus months into this thing,

461
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:31.519
<v Speaker 2>and you've got your first something coming down. And I

462
00:27:31.680 --> 00:27:34.319
<v Speaker 2>never did figure out what that was. I have no idea,

463
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:37.000
<v Speaker 2>but I just remember I was watching it until I

464
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:39.480
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't keep my eyes open anymore and I just

465
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:48.839
<v Speaker 2>fell asleep. And you know, that was probably the worst

466
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:51.519
<v Speaker 2>night out of all of it, and there was a

467
00:27:51.599 --> 00:28:04.680
<v Speaker 2>lot of bad nights, but you know, the one of

468
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.839
<v Speaker 2>the things they did to me as a little boy,

469
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I was molested. And you know when you're when when

470
00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.920
<v Speaker 2>when that happens, your you know, your backside gets torn

471
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:27.319
<v Speaker 2>and m hm hm. They had the unique ability to

472
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:30.799
<v Speaker 2>make it torn for like nine months and there was

473
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.920
<v Speaker 2>no reason why. And when this was happening that night,

474
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.839
<v Speaker 2>I could feel like rips in my skin. I had

475
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:45.319
<v Speaker 2>uh like claw marks on my chest, and you know,

476
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 2>the the level of I guess just yeah, you're in

477
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>the deepest victim energy you've ever experienced in your life,

478
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:06.279
<v Speaker 2>and you didn't know what to do right And from

479
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:11.039
<v Speaker 2>that night forward, they crawled on me like roaches. Every day.

480
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:19.839
<v Speaker 2>My eyes, my ears everywhere, and that was relentless. That

481
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>was it looked like I was on drugs all the time,

482
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:28.680
<v Speaker 2>scratching and itching and trying to figure things out. And

483
00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, from from that point on, every day just

484
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Speaker 2>got worse. Man, just every day got worse. You know,

485
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>they wanted me dead. And you know that that lady

486
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>from Madagascar said, she said, uh, she said, you cannot

487
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:53.559
<v Speaker 2>sleep in the house anymore because they'll kill you if

488
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:57.279
<v Speaker 2>you stay in the house. But they can't kill you outside.

489
00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>But they're going to try to get you to take

490
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>your own life. And you know, I would love to

491
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:05.640
<v Speaker 2>say that wasn't a thought, but dude, I mean every

492
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.160
<v Speaker 2>night for months, I'd sat in my bed with my

493
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:13.640
<v Speaker 2>forty five next to me, trying to figure out, you know,

494
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:18.079
<v Speaker 2>if if we can't fix this, you know, there was

495
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:19.519
<v Speaker 2>no way I was going to be able to live

496
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:22.400
<v Speaker 2>like that. There's no way, I mean, how do I

497
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>take my own life? Was my thought? Not go to

498
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.559
<v Speaker 2>hell and not destroy my children. And you know, thank

499
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.359
<v Speaker 2>god I didn't figure that out. But you know, every

500
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:35.279
<v Speaker 2>every night I would just you know, I look at it.

501
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:36.400
<v Speaker 2>I say, you know, I could just grab it and

502
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 2>just do it real quick, and I remember a friend

503
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:40.519
<v Speaker 2>of mine told me a long time ago that, you know,

504
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 2>suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. And

505
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:47.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'd see that over and over over and over.

506
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 2>I said, it's just a temporary problem. I didn't know

507
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:55.160
<v Speaker 2>what the solution was going to be, and you know

508
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:59.039
<v Speaker 2>it was it was that it was that bad. And

509
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:05.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, the funny thing, the best night that I

510
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:11.319
<v Speaker 2>had was probably in August. So at this time, you know,

511
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:16.359
<v Speaker 2>we've been doing through tons of crazy stuff. I had

512
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>been through one exorcism, which we can talk about if

513
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:24.119
<v Speaker 2>you like. There's another one that was going to happen,

514
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:28.880
<v Speaker 2>but you know, through this, I kept asking for somebody

515
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.480
<v Speaker 2>to do an exorcism on the house. I didn't realize

516
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:34.039
<v Speaker 2>when I was touched as a child that something was

517
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.359
<v Speaker 2>placed inside me, which kind of made sense to me

518
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:39.759
<v Speaker 2>after I realized that was there. You know, there's lots

519
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:43.000
<v Speaker 2>of pieces of my life that I'm like that would

520
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>make sense to me. And so Kennedy, my German shepherd,

521
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:54.519
<v Speaker 2>and I were in my camper and honest answer is, dude,

522
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 2>I was sitting there. You know, it was probably eight

523
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:58.440
<v Speaker 2>or ten beers into two a twelve pack. I'm like,

524
00:31:58.480 --> 00:31:59.799
<v Speaker 2>what else am I going to do? Is like two

525
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.039
<v Speaker 2>three o'clock in the morning. I was miserable. I was itching,

526
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I was torn, My skin had cuts in it. I

527
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:13.359
<v Speaker 2>had sheets and blankets over all the mirrors in the RB,

528
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.039
<v Speaker 2>because you know, you think I would see things coming

529
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:19.200
<v Speaker 2>out of it, and there was just there was demons.

530
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 2>They're freaking everywhere in there. They're just everywhere. And you know,

531
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.559
<v Speaker 2>my German shepherd would look at them and look at me,

532
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:28.519
<v Speaker 2>look at them and look at me, and she was

533
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of like laying on my chest trying to protect me.

534
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:36.480
<v Speaker 2>And she was the best damn dog. And I was

535
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:40.200
<v Speaker 2>looking at that pistol. I was like, you know, I

536
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>drank two or three more beers. I could probably do

537
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:53.319
<v Speaker 2>that tonight. And then I remember thinking, I'm like, well,

538
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's going to happen to Kennedy. You know,

539
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:58.519
<v Speaker 2>she's going to be in in the middle of that mess.

540
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.039
<v Speaker 2>And you know, those were my thoughts. That's where I

541
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:04.759
<v Speaker 2>was at. And it's funny. There was this one wall

542
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.680
<v Speaker 2>and you see this demon. I mean I mean you

543
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.200
<v Speaker 2>literally seen its hands come through the wall and it's

544
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>like it was it didn't literally ripped the wallpaper, but

545
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.920
<v Speaker 2>it pulled it apart and stuck his head through, and

546
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:20.079
<v Speaker 2>it looked like fucking Roy Orbison. It did the glasses

547
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>and everything. I just looked at I said, Roy, that's

548
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 2>what happened. And I looked at the and Kennedy was

549
00:33:29.039 --> 00:33:33.039
<v Speaker 2>just frustrated, and I got mad at her. I said,

550
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:36.559
<v Speaker 2>stick your head under the pillow because they can't kill you.

551
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:42.319
<v Speaker 2>And she goes and sticks her head under the pillow

552
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:46.440
<v Speaker 2>and she went right to sleep. And that reminded me,

553
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, they can't kill me, so I was thinking.

554
00:33:55.839 --> 00:34:04.759
<v Speaker 2>I remember, I just started hysterically laughing because the pain

555
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:08.360
<v Speaker 2>that they were putting me through was nothing compared to

556
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.920
<v Speaker 2>what the Marine Corps did to me. You know, there

557
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.280
<v Speaker 2>was this there's this one day Marine Corps boot camp,

558
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 2>this drill instructor. They were a Parris Island, South Carolina.

559
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:23.760
<v Speaker 2>The guy's name was Cochlan. And you know, I don't

560
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.760
<v Speaker 2>know if every unit had one that was just super psycho,

561
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>but this guy, dude, I mean, those drill instructors are

562
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>off the chain, but this guy was just to a

563
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.960
<v Speaker 2>next level and we were terrified to him. And he

564
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:43.639
<v Speaker 2>was working a Saturday. So if he's working a Saturday,

565
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 2>he got in trouble, and if he got in trouble,

566
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>we're going to pay. And I remember he was taking

567
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 2>us out and lining us up out outside and he said,

568
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:02.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna make you pay. You're undisciplined. You make me sick.

569
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the guy was just going off and we're

570
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 2>like two weeks away from graduating boot camp, and so

571
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:11.719
<v Speaker 2>he marches us back towards the swamp. And you know,

572
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:14.000
<v Speaker 2>there's certain areas that you just don't go, and we

573
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.880
<v Speaker 2>were going to an area that you weren't supposed to go,

574
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.280
<v Speaker 2>and we're going to an area that nobody's seen you.

575
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>And I can promise you. I don't know what boot

576
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>camp's like today, but boot camp in nineteen eighty eight,

577
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>you did not want to go into an area with

578
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.400
<v Speaker 2>a drill instructor, especially this drill instructor, and there was

579
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:36.719
<v Speaker 2>nobody that could see what you're doing and where you're

580
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>at and while you're there, because he would hurt you

581
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>at a deep level. And he took us back there

582
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and lined us up by the swamp. And you got

583
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>to remember, I mean they freaked us out because it's

584
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>down South Carolina. You know, they beat it in our head.

585
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:56.400
<v Speaker 2>If we tried to escape or any eaten by the alligators.

586
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:03.199
<v Speaker 2>He said, we're going to teach you discipline today, and

587
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>we're going to stay here and we're going to watch

588
00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:09.519
<v Speaker 2>you bleed until I get tired. And you know the

589
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.199
<v Speaker 2>sand fleas in South Paris Island, you know those things.

590
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 2>You couldn't see him, but they they bite you and

591
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.039
<v Speaker 2>you're you're just there's just blood dripping off of us.

592
00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:21.039
<v Speaker 2>And he had us there for hours, and you know,

593
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 2>he never moved. And I didn't realize until a couple

594
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 2>of years ago he probably had bug spray on. You know,

595
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 2>we're out there thinking he used all that, you probably

596
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 2>have bug spray on. I'm sure he did. But you know,

597
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:41.519
<v Speaker 2>I thought that that test was given to us. You know,

598
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:43.760
<v Speaker 2>we're going to be marines, We're going to be in combat.

599
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:47.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you get you know, captured, things happen.

600
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:51.719
<v Speaker 2>And you know, at least in my mind, you know,

601
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you you wonder, how are you going to react going

602
00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 2>through that? How are you going to react when you're

603
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 2>being tortured? And this was a part of that training,

604
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:08.559
<v Speaker 2>and you know he did that. I was thinking about

605
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>that that evening that thirty some years earlier, God had

606
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 2>this guy, take us to the swamp, torture us, do

607
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:22.440
<v Speaker 2>things to us for me not to survive being captured

608
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:24.519
<v Speaker 2>by the enemy, but for me to not pull the

609
00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:30.400
<v Speaker 2>trigger in that camper and give up. And you know,

610
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 2>so when you're looking at that, and you're looking at

611
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:34.840
<v Speaker 2>all the different steps in your life and stuff, and

612
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 2>you know how everything seems to have just kind of

613
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:43.280
<v Speaker 2>fallen in place for you to become the person that

614
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you are. And you know, that was the last time Robert,

615
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.760
<v Speaker 2>excuse a Robert, and think of my uncle Robert Brandon,

616
00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:00.639
<v Speaker 2>that that was the last time I ever to my

617
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:09.079
<v Speaker 2>weapon with the thoughts of harming myself. And that was

618
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the best night. It gave me a glimmer of hope,

619
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:21.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, and we I think I still had a

620
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.760
<v Speaker 2>good month or so before, you know, I was going

621
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 2>to go up to Abington, Virginia. So I live in

622
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Virginia Beach, and if you look on the map of

623
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Virginia's and on the coast where Carolina comes together down

624
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:37.599
<v Speaker 2>that little tip now in the Norfolk area. We were

625
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.400
<v Speaker 2>driving to Abington, Virginia, which is on the other side

626
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:44.119
<v Speaker 2>of Virginia close to Tennessee. Is where I met this

627
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:50.360
<v Speaker 2>native American La Cota medicine woman, and she said that

628
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.719
<v Speaker 2>she could fix everything, but I had to wait till

629
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 2>the summer was over to do it. So that was

630
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.519
<v Speaker 2>happening sometime early September. I was going up there for

631
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:06.960
<v Speaker 2>a Native American rebirthing ceremony, and so I still had

632
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:09.440
<v Speaker 2>a long way to go at that point.

633
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Before we.

634
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:14.599
<v Speaker 3>Keep going into that, I had a couple of questions,

635
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:22.119
<v Speaker 3>and do you think this you mentioned this has been

636
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:27.360
<v Speaker 3>going on you afterwards, like since you're a little boy, yep,

637
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:30.960
<v Speaker 3>what do you think made it escalate to the point

638
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:31.840
<v Speaker 3>where it didn't?

639
00:39:31.880 --> 00:39:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Now? You know, maybe it was my destiny. You know

640
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 2>what One of the things that ended up happening through

641
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 2>this process is, you know, not everybody could see the demons, right.

642
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 2>I can see the demons. Santa graz can see the demons.

643
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Some other people I could clearly take a picture and

644
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:54.960
<v Speaker 2>you can see it. I mean it was there. I

645
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:56.559
<v Speaker 2>mean all my friends would look at the camera and

646
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:59.639
<v Speaker 2>they're like, dude, what is that? I'm like right, So

647
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, there was scientific proof that it was there.

648
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.559
<v Speaker 2>And you know, when we went into this process, you know,

649
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.599
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have any spiritual gifts. I didn't have you know,

650
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't a healer like Sandra Grace. I didn't have

651
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:17.079
<v Speaker 2>all this intuition. You know. You see people they you know,

652
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:21.559
<v Speaker 2>have spiritual gifts, they're psychic or whatever. And and you know,

653
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.159
<v Speaker 2>one of the things that was happening to me through

654
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:28.159
<v Speaker 2>that process, I think because of the trauma of it is,

655
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:32.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, these abilities were turning on, These psychic abilities

656
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:35.119
<v Speaker 2>are turning on, these healing abilities were turning on. So

657
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.840
<v Speaker 2>as you fast forward when it's over, you know, and

658
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:40.159
<v Speaker 2>you fast forward to today, you know, people come to

659
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:42.440
<v Speaker 2>me from all over the world right now, and I

660
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:46.599
<v Speaker 2>helped them heal from pain and stuff. So I think, well,

661
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:49.679
<v Speaker 2>I know it was just it was my destiny, and

662
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.639
<v Speaker 2>so I believe it was God calling me to the table,

663
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:59.840
<v Speaker 2>because if the burning bush showed up Wesley, this is God,

664
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I'd have been like, dude, really, are you freaking kidding me?

665
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:06.719
<v Speaker 2>Let's get the fire extinguisher, right. So they showed me

666
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:12.079
<v Speaker 2>the demons and put me through that pain and broke me,

667
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.079
<v Speaker 2>just like the Marine Corps did for me to come

668
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.480
<v Speaker 2>to the realization because I'm looking at I'm like, well

669
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.559
<v Speaker 2>that's real. I mean, is that dude real? I mean seriously,

670
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:23.840
<v Speaker 2>all this time, I thought the Bible was BS and

671
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:30.519
<v Speaker 2>God was BS. That dude's real. And so one of

672
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.599
<v Speaker 2>the things that was happening is these these gifts were

673
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:36.199
<v Speaker 2>turning on. So you know, I could go up. I

674
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:44.440
<v Speaker 2>went and touched this this this antique berry picker thing,

675
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, I had like little it was wood and

676
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:48.159
<v Speaker 2>it had like little fingers on it and a little

677
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:50.960
<v Speaker 2>catcher so you could run it up the branch and

678
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.440
<v Speaker 2>pick berries. And I remember walking up to it, and

679
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:55.599
<v Speaker 2>when I touched it, I could taste the fruit. And

680
00:41:56.519 --> 00:41:58.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, I could touch a child's toy and I

681
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 2>could see who was the little girl playing with the toy.

682
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:05.480
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I thought I was losing my mind.

683
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know, I don't understand what's going on.

684
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:11.840
<v Speaker 2>But I was so traumatized by the whole experience and

685
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:17.760
<v Speaker 2>running from everything, trying to just stay alive. You know,

686
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:21.199
<v Speaker 2>I didn't understand that these gifts were turning on. And

687
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.719
<v Speaker 2>you see where somebody gets in a car accident and

688
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:26.440
<v Speaker 2>they're in a coma and they wake up and all

689
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:28.719
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden they've got psychic abilities, or you know,

690
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 2>they're speaking Dutch or something, and it was kind of

691
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 2>one of those things. So, you know, I think it

692
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:36.599
<v Speaker 2>was you know, I believe it was God calling me

693
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:42.159
<v Speaker 2>to the table for me to move into this healing

694
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:44.360
<v Speaker 2>work that I do. So it's you know, the last

695
00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:48.079
<v Speaker 2>five six years, dude, Man, it's just been the person

696
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:52.679
<v Speaker 2>I was is no longer here, and you know, it

697
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:57.400
<v Speaker 2>just gets crazy. You know, things are just different. It's

698
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.079
<v Speaker 2>just different. I don't know if they answered that question

699
00:42:59.280 --> 00:42:59.400
<v Speaker 2>or not.

700
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:04.440
<v Speaker 3>The other thing I was wondering, is it seemed like

701
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:06.719
<v Speaker 3>it when you were at this place, like this house.

702
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Did you ever talk to anyone else that ever lived

703
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:11.000
<v Speaker 3>there prior?

704
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:16.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Actually yeah I did the night that that fog

705
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:18.599
<v Speaker 2>was there. You know, a bunch of my friends. I've

706
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:20.880
<v Speaker 2>been telling my friends, dude, this house is haunted, you know,

707
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:24.280
<v Speaker 2>and everybody's like, oh man, you're stupid. You know, it's

708
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.079
<v Speaker 2>just what people do. And so I took a picture

709
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:30.920
<v Speaker 2>of the fog through the security camera. I said, hey, guys,

710
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:32.880
<v Speaker 2>remember how I said the house was haunted and I

711
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 2>put that picture up there. Well, I didn't. I didn't realize.

712
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.760
<v Speaker 2>There was a girl that was friends with on Facebook

713
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:42.800
<v Speaker 2>and we went to high school together where her dad

714
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.760
<v Speaker 2>was the builder and he built that house, and she

715
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:50.320
<v Speaker 2>said they lived there, so she hit me up and

716
00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.719
<v Speaker 2>she came over. So they lived there for a handful

717
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:56.239
<v Speaker 2>of years. And this other family lived there for like

718
00:43:56.400 --> 00:44:01.719
<v Speaker 2>eighteen or twenty years. And you know, I wasn't going

719
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 2>to go try to track these people down wherever there

720
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 2>were asking them questions. But the girl came with her

721
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 2>sister and they were really freaked out being in the house,

722
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.159
<v Speaker 2>and they were telling me all these stories were you know,

723
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.280
<v Speaker 2>it was a large house, so the dining room was

724
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:20.920
<v Speaker 2>probably thirty by thirty or the family room. And how

725
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:25.079
<v Speaker 2>the glass in the fireplace shattered in but it flew

726
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:27.679
<v Speaker 2>thirty feet across the room to hit the one girl

727
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.119
<v Speaker 2>in the face. I mean, how does that happen? You know,

728
00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:32.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's a long way and it's not there

729
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:34.800
<v Speaker 2>wasn't even a fire there. It's not like the fireplace

730
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.039
<v Speaker 2>was on. She said that it would get so hot

731
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:39.920
<v Speaker 2>that it exploded. It just exploded. And for some reason

732
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:45.480
<v Speaker 2>that house, this girl, this sister was tormented more than

733
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:52.519
<v Speaker 2>the other sister. And they said that the dad was

734
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:57.519
<v Speaker 2>really really tormented that there. When you go up the stairs,

735
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.800
<v Speaker 2>there's like a big balcony and so if you kind

736
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.280
<v Speaker 2>of turn around to your left and go backwards. There's

737
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:10.000
<v Speaker 2>a big sitting area there and that ended up being

738
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.719
<v Speaker 2>the hot spot of the house, ironically, But the girls

739
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:16.719
<v Speaker 2>said that their dad would sit there on a chair

740
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:20.440
<v Speaker 2>there all night long, night after night after night, and

741
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.360
<v Speaker 2>they just didn't understand what was going on with him.

742
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:25.920
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if they were talking to him

743
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:28.920
<v Speaker 2>or he's being posessed or whatever. They didn't tell me

744
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:35.800
<v Speaker 2>what ended up happening happening with him. I think he

745
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:41.639
<v Speaker 2>died on the steps somehow in that house. But you know,

746
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:44.320
<v Speaker 2>they were just talking about all kinds of crazy things

747
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:51.519
<v Speaker 2>going on, doors, slamming, cabinets, flying open, food flying across

748
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:56.159
<v Speaker 2>the room, you know that shattering, hearing voices, hearing music,

749
00:45:56.239 --> 00:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>things of that nature. And I think they probably moved

750
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:03.360
<v Speaker 2>moved out, you know, just after a few years and

751
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>sold the house. So but I think when we when

752
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:14.360
<v Speaker 2>we when we moved the swimming pool, I think I

753
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:16.199
<v Speaker 2>believe that reopened something.

754
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:19.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm wondering if it wasn't like some sort of a

755
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to say, like a seal, but like

756
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:26.320
<v Speaker 3>something broke to work and allow these things out. Now,

757
00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:30.679
<v Speaker 3>you just need some disturbed something yeah, I.

758
00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Think somebody caught it like a lay line or something.

759
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:37.360
<v Speaker 2>One time, I don't know. Santa Grace introduced me to

760
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:43.920
<v Speaker 2>this woman who clears haunted houses and stuff, and she's

761
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:48.760
<v Speaker 2>like Massachusetts or whatever, and she called me one day

762
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:50.960
<v Speaker 2>and was asking me questions. She said, she went to

763
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.800
<v Speaker 2>see this lady doing card readings or something. I don't

764
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:57.559
<v Speaker 2>know what she was doing, but she was asking them

765
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:00.440
<v Speaker 2>questions about my property, you know, trying to help me.

766
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:03.920
<v Speaker 2>And the lady had told her to connect and look

767
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:06.159
<v Speaker 2>under the ground for like what you said there like

768
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:09.719
<v Speaker 2>like a crack in the earth's core or something. And

769
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:12.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know what she did or how

770
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:16.039
<v Speaker 2>she did it, but she somehow energetically closed that up.

771
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:18.280
<v Speaker 2>It made it a little bit of a difference, you know.

772
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I noticed a little bit of a difference because she

773
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:21.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't tell me when she did it. She she waited

774
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:23.800
<v Speaker 2>like ten days and said, hey, how are things going?

775
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 2>And I told her, I said, you know, I feel

776
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:27.480
<v Speaker 2>like it's gotten a smidge and better. But you know,

777
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:34.440
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't fixed. But you know, I believe that's what

778
00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:41.039
<v Speaker 2>it was, because you know it, uh, I mean the

779
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:43.280
<v Speaker 2>house wasn't super old. I mean at that point, it

780
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:46.719
<v Speaker 2>is probably like thirty five years old at best, so

781
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:48.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's not like it's built in eighteen ten

782
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:53.079
<v Speaker 2>or something, right, But yeah, I think that's I think

783
00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:56.519
<v Speaker 2>that's what that aspect of it was.

784
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, if you would like to I'm curious now, I'd

785
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:05.400
<v Speaker 3>want to know how you've managed to get away from

786
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:07.239
<v Speaker 3>all this, and I'm sure the listeners out there would

787
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 3>like to know too. So if you'd like to let

788
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:11.800
<v Speaker 3>us all know how you got to the point where

789
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:14.199
<v Speaker 3>you're at today, sure we go into that.

790
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, well I did two exorcisms, one with the

791
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:29.239
<v Speaker 2>priest and one with this minister guy, and that didn't

792
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 2>fix anything. But I can tell you this. You know,

793
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I can go into detail if you want. But the

794
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:36.119
<v Speaker 2>stuff you see on TV where they throw the holy

795
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.480
<v Speaker 2>water on you and it's like it's blistered in your skin,

796
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:43.320
<v Speaker 2>that is real. Yeah. There was a depth of pain

797
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I've never ever experienced going through that. And so the

798
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:54.199
<v Speaker 2>medicine woman had said that the house isn't the issue.

799
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:58.719
<v Speaker 2>She said, I'm the issue. Until we pull the demon

800
00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:02.719
<v Speaker 2>out of you, we can't close the portals at the house.

801
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:07.079
<v Speaker 2>So basically I went up to Abington Virginia, and we

802
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:11.480
<v Speaker 2>did this rebirthing ceremony, and you know, probably in a

803
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:16.599
<v Speaker 2>short version of that, dug my own grave laid in

804
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:21.280
<v Speaker 2>the grave for eighteen hours and at some point energetically died,

805
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:27.280
<v Speaker 2>then was reborn. And when I died, my friends had

806
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:29.800
<v Speaker 2>to maintain this sacred fire while this stuff was going on.

807
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:33.280
<v Speaker 2>So and Needless stated man, I'm retired marine. I run

808
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:37.000
<v Speaker 2>a real estate company. This was so far outside of

809
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.480
<v Speaker 2>everything in my life I've ever experienced. So but you know,

810
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I was determined to stay alive. And but my friend

811
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:47.559
<v Speaker 2>Dee says, she's seen this horse looking thing come out

812
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.480
<v Speaker 2>of my grave that had a hoof about seven inches

813
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:53.000
<v Speaker 2>across and I had like a the head was this

814
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.800
<v Speaker 2>demonic thing with horns, and she's like, dude, I mean

815
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:59.559
<v Speaker 2>it was huge, walked right past her, right through the

816
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:03.679
<v Speaker 2>sacred fire. My German shepherd Kennedy looked horrible. It walked

817
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 2>through her. So whatever was tormenting her, it took and

818
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:16.480
<v Speaker 2>then you know, it left, and you know, it's it's interesting. Lakota,

819
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the medicine woman said, when the demon leaves one of

820
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:25.119
<v Speaker 2>her cows. I don't know how this stuff works, but

821
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:29.199
<v Speaker 2>one of the cows volunteered basically to take the demon.

822
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:31.920
<v Speaker 2>So she did some prayer, she talked to him, and

823
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, she told the cow, if you were willing

824
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:36.679
<v Speaker 2>to do it, I think it was good, like lay

825
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:39.239
<v Speaker 2>down next to a fence or something, something something out

826
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:42.559
<v Speaker 2>of the ordinary for that animal. And it did so. Basically,

827
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:48.920
<v Speaker 2>that animal chose to be a part of this. And

828
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.440
<v Speaker 2>if you look at the Native American culture and stuff,

829
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:54.199
<v Speaker 2>and I'm at a deep level, that's where that this

830
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:58.719
<v Speaker 2>medicine comes from. So that demon went to the cow.

831
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:03.760
<v Speaker 2>The cow went freaking nuts, ran through the pasture, broke

832
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:08.400
<v Speaker 2>through the pasture, and I think at some point the

833
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:11.639
<v Speaker 2>cow caught up with something with a bear on the path.

834
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:14.960
<v Speaker 2>The demon transferred from the cow to the bear, and

835
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.360
<v Speaker 2>the bear ran down and ran out in front of

836
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:20.920
<v Speaker 2>an eighteen wheeler and got killed instantly. And then the

837
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:27.280
<v Speaker 2>cow came back. I'm like, man, I'm not gonna eat

838
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:29.239
<v Speaker 2>that cow. If you guys are butchering it, I can

839
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:33.079
<v Speaker 2>tell you that it was. It was so bizarre, it

840
00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:38.800
<v Speaker 2>was so crazy, but it took what was inside of

841
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 2>me out and you know, that was basic. That was

842
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:46.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, there was still some there was another twenty

843
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:48.639
<v Speaker 2>one days that I had to wait before she could

844
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 2>come to the house and fix the house part, and

845
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:54.480
<v Speaker 2>that that was really the worst part because I didn't

846
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:56.719
<v Speaker 2>know if it was fixed. I had to wait twenty

847
00:51:56.760 --> 00:52:05.280
<v Speaker 2>one days. And and she came about thirty days or

848
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:09.559
<v Speaker 2>so later, and we probably had one hundred hours worth

849
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:12.519
<v Speaker 2>of people trying to fix this house. And she walks

850
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:14.559
<v Speaker 2>up in there and she sings three songs. I'm like,

851
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:16.559
<v Speaker 2>are you kidding me? You're gonna sing? You sing three

852
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:20.320
<v Speaker 2>songs and it's done, and she just starts laughing. She said, Wesley,

853
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:23.480
<v Speaker 2>because you've already been fixed. This is the easy part.

854
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:32.199
<v Speaker 2>And so at that point I waited about ten twelve days.

855
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm in real estate, so I was not going to

856
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:37.039
<v Speaker 2>sell the house to somebody until it was fixed. You know,

857
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.280
<v Speaker 2>when we're going to Brandon, let you and your family

858
00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:42.760
<v Speaker 2>move in there, and not say something, you know, just

859
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.239
<v Speaker 2>so I can, you know, get out from a payment.

860
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not doing that. And so when I

861
00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:51.119
<v Speaker 2>felt the house was cool, and it was clear because

862
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.559
<v Speaker 2>I looked at the security cameras and there was zero,

863
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:57.360
<v Speaker 2>there was nothing, There was no movement, there was no, no, nothing.

864
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:04.119
<v Speaker 2>And so we listed and old the house and at

865
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:06.760
<v Speaker 2>that point, I would I was just I was pretty traumatized,

866
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:10.559
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I would love to say the things

867
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:13.599
<v Speaker 2>that were crawling on me stop. That took probably another

868
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:17.440
<v Speaker 2>ten months to fully stop. So they crawled on me

869
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:23.239
<v Speaker 2>for close to two years. And but one of the things,

870
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:26.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, the healers I heard them talking about was

871
00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:30.920
<v Speaker 2>that they they were reiki trained. Are you familiar with reiki? Yes?

872
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I am, yeah, So I didn't know what it was.

873
00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:40.559
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't necessarily looking to take a reiki class, but

874
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:44.960
<v Speaker 2>it was it was weird. I kept seeing this attorney's

875
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:49.000
<v Speaker 2>office sign and the spelling was almost the same as reiki,

876
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:52.679
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, all right, I'm listening, I'll take the

877
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:56.360
<v Speaker 2>freaking reiki class. And It's funny after I took the

878
00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:59.800
<v Speaker 2>class that I'd never seen that sign again. I'm like,

879
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, did the attorney move? Was that? Never? There?

880
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Was I the only one seen it? I don't know.

881
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:09.119
<v Speaker 2>But when I took the reiki class, that's when I

882
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.960
<v Speaker 2>realized I had the ability to help heal people. And

883
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:15.920
<v Speaker 2>so as you fast forward over the last handful of years,

884
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:20.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm a reiki master quantum healer. People come

885
00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 2>to me and I heal them, and you know, we

886
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:27.679
<v Speaker 2>talked about that on the podcast. So the podcast goes

887
00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:31.480
<v Speaker 2>to the whole Haunted House story, but it also has

888
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:33.719
<v Speaker 2>a twist to it. It's like, how life happens for you,

889
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:36.480
<v Speaker 2>not to you. So you know how all those things

890
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:40.559
<v Speaker 2>that happened to me, could I could go into that

891
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:43.599
<v Speaker 2>as I was victimized or it happened to me for

892
00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:47.000
<v Speaker 2>me to grow and become something different. I'm tired of

893
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:49.039
<v Speaker 2>being a victim. You know, I was a victim my

894
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:52.679
<v Speaker 2>whole life. I was this raped little boy forever and

895
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:55.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I joined the Marine Corps so nobody would

896
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:59.800
<v Speaker 2>ever touch me again, and nobody did. But that just

897
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't able to heal that aspect until I went

898
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:16.519
<v Speaker 2>through this process, and you know, it was on multiple levels,

899
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:22.639
<v Speaker 2>just some of the most craziest stuff you've ever experienced

900
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 2>in your life. But you know, one thing I would

901
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:31.400
<v Speaker 2>like to talk about is I met this priest, Father Munford.

902
00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:35.000
<v Speaker 2>He's a former British Royal Marine here in Virginia Beach.

903
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.039
<v Speaker 2>So if I'm going to the church, you know it's bad.

904
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:42.000
<v Speaker 2>So I'm tracking this guy down and they're like, hey,

905
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:45.639
<v Speaker 2>you know this guy could do exorcisms, and I've been

906
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:49.000
<v Speaker 2>months and months looking for somebody. So long story short,

907
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I go see the priest and I tell him how

908
00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:57.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, how furious I am with God this stuff

909
00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and none of it's real. And he says, come into

910
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:03.519
<v Speaker 2>my office. I want to do something. So he says, son,

911
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I want you to close your eyes and I want

912
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:19.559
<v Speaker 2>you to visualize you being about to be abused. He said,

913
00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:21.559
<v Speaker 2>I want you to go to the point where, I mean,

914
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:27.639
<v Speaker 2>right before it gets bad. And I'm just, yeah, dropping

915
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:29.559
<v Speaker 2>the F bomb left and the right. I'm crying, I

916
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:34.519
<v Speaker 2>got stuff crawling all over me. I'm desperate, suicidal basically,

917
00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:38.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, I was just just it was ridiculous.

918
00:56:38.400 --> 00:56:40.519
<v Speaker 2>He kept asking me if I was on heroin. I'm like, dude,

919
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm not on heroin. I'll take a piss test if

920
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:48.039
<v Speaker 2>you want, you know. And so I'm like, all right, father,

921
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll do that. So I'm sitting there and I visualized

922
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the room. It was a single story house and it

923
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:58.679
<v Speaker 2>was across the street from my home, and they converted

924
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:01.400
<v Speaker 2>the garage into a poke room. So you know, there's

925
00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:04.039
<v Speaker 2>a poker table there, there's liquor bottles there, there's silly

926
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:05.000
<v Speaker 2>pictures on the walls.

927
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:05.280
<v Speaker 4>You know.

928
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:09.760
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a guy's you know, game room. And so

929
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting there, ten eleven years old, on my hands

930
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:23.719
<v Speaker 2>and knees and no clothes on, and he tells me

931
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:30.440
<v Speaker 2>to uh. He says, I want you to look for Jesus.

932
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:32.880
<v Speaker 2>And I remember being so pissed off. I'm like, are

933
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:37.039
<v Speaker 2>you fucking kidding me? Father, And he's like he puts

934
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:38.719
<v Speaker 2>his hand on my shoulder. I mean, I'm just I'm

935
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:42.719
<v Speaker 2>like coming out of my skin at this point, he says,

936
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:46.960
<v Speaker 2>look for him. So I'm looking in my mind, I'm

937
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:49.000
<v Speaker 2>looking through the room and there was a picture on

938
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:51.320
<v Speaker 2>the wall. You know, they had this one picture of

939
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:53.679
<v Speaker 2>the wall where they had stupid dogs around the table

940
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:56.280
<v Speaker 2>playing poker and the one dog's got a card in

941
00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:59.079
<v Speaker 2>his paul handed to the other one. You know that

942
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:01.719
<v Speaker 2>that picture's always brought me back to that room. I've

943
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:05.719
<v Speaker 2>hated that picture my whole life. I said, yeah, father,

944
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:07.639
<v Speaker 2>I see the picture. He says, no, honey, I want

945
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:09.639
<v Speaker 2>you to look for him. And I just remember just

946
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I was just like, ah, you know, I'm just what

947
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:15.000
<v Speaker 2>are you talking about? And when I looked over in

948
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:27.559
<v Speaker 2>my left shoulder behind me. You could see Jesus and

949
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:34.639
<v Speaker 2>I just remember being so shocked and I said, father,

950
00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:38.599
<v Speaker 2>I see him, see him. And he said, honey, what

951
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:40.719
<v Speaker 2>does it. What did he say to you? I said,

952
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:45.679
<v Speaker 2>he didn't have to and he goes, why not, I said,

953
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:54.119
<v Speaker 2>because he was crying. And that is the day that

954
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I realized Jesus wasn't there to pull me out of

955
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:03.000
<v Speaker 2>the room, Brandon, he was there to love me through

956
00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:09.280
<v Speaker 2>whatever I was going through. And you know, I thought

957
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:13.800
<v Speaker 2>about that and thought about it, and you know, I

958
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:16.679
<v Speaker 2>don't think I'm a religious person. I do my healing work.

959
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I know I work with Jesus, I know I work

960
00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:20.039
<v Speaker 2>with angels, but I just don't feel like I'm a

961
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:20.960
<v Speaker 2>religious person.

962
00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:25.119
<v Speaker 4>And but that.

963
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Made sense to me. I mean, you know, I seen him,

964
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:33.519
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I can walk with my children every

965
00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:37.039
<v Speaker 2>day everywhere and I stop and look left and they

966
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:40.000
<v Speaker 2>walk and move forward and something happened, or they can

967
00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:42.760
<v Speaker 2>get sick. You know, you can't save them, but you

968
00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:50.440
<v Speaker 2>can love them through everything. And that was a huge change,

969
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:53.719
<v Speaker 2>switching point in my life. You know, it helped me

970
00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:59.440
<v Speaker 2>start to heal that little boy, and you know, start

971
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:05.800
<v Speaker 2>moving forward, and you know, and forgiving myself. I don't

972
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.400
<v Speaker 2>know why I felt like I had to forgive him.

973
01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:09.960
<v Speaker 2>That sounds kind of silly, but I in my mind

974
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:13.800
<v Speaker 2>I did. But I still sound silly just to say it.

975
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:16.480
<v Speaker 2>But you know, there was this level of forgiveness and

976
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:22.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, this broken man that you know, at the time,

977
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:24.559
<v Speaker 2>I could do anything one dude, I had a big

978
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:26.920
<v Speaker 2>ass house, I had five cars, two boats. I could

979
01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:32.639
<v Speaker 2>do whatever I wanted except for love myself and be happy.

980
01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:40.360
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I wanted to share that because I

981
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:43.199
<v Speaker 2>know there's probably people on the show that have had

982
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:46.199
<v Speaker 2>the same experience. And that's why I hated church so much.

983
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:48.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, I dude, I didn't even know Jesus was

984
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:51.119
<v Speaker 2>a Jew. I mean, I knew nothing, and I don't

985
01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:52.840
<v Speaker 2>know much more, but I don't need to know much

986
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:57.639
<v Speaker 2>more to do my healing work. But that was that

987
01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 2>That was one of the most beautiful experiences I had,

988
01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:05.920
<v Speaker 2>and there was many of them, but they were very painful,

989
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:08.760
<v Speaker 2>but it was beautiful and it changed everything for me.

990
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he loved me so much. He came into

991
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:15.440
<v Speaker 2>that vision and showed me him crying why this was happening,

992
01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'm grateful for that.

993
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:30.960
<v Speaker 3>So now with what you're doing with reiki, how do

994
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.280
<v Speaker 3>you end up end up like four? When you're reaching

995
01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:34.840
<v Speaker 3>out with people and people reach out to you to

996
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:39.840
<v Speaker 3>communicate with you to try and help them. For anyone listening,

997
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:41.199
<v Speaker 3>how would they be able to get a hold of you.

998
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my website is VB Healer Virginia Beach Healer. I'm

999
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:49.400
<v Speaker 2>on Instagram VB Healer. You know my name is Wes

1000
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Coons and my podcast is Enlightening Unknown Life of a

1001
01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Spiritual Nomad. So if you want to listen to the

1002
01:01:56.519 --> 01:02:03.000
<v Speaker 2>whole story, and I shared ninety eight percent of the story,

1003
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:05.360
<v Speaker 2>there are some things that just I just wasn't going

1004
01:02:05.400 --> 01:02:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to share that they did to me. But it's through

1005
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:10.639
<v Speaker 2>the whole story, and then it goes into you know,

1006
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:13.440
<v Speaker 2>how life happens, happens for you, not to you when

1007
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:16.599
<v Speaker 2>we talk about healing work, and so you could find

1008
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:23.320
<v Speaker 2>me on any of those platforms. And you know, I

1009
01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:26.239
<v Speaker 2>tell people I see energies that no longer serve them.

1010
01:02:26.639 --> 01:02:29.000
<v Speaker 2>So the things that are blocking you from moving forward,

1011
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:32.360
<v Speaker 2>keeping you from becoming the person that you want to be,

1012
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:36.480
<v Speaker 2>that's what I see, and I remove that stuff. And

1013
01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:38.519
<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest thing that I do for people

1014
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:42.679
<v Speaker 2>is you know, when you leave a relationship, there's that

1015
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:46.800
<v Speaker 2>sexual energy from that person. It's still inside you and

1016
01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:50.519
<v Speaker 2>you have energetic chord connections to them. You know clearly

1017
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:53.400
<v Speaker 2>you're not touched during this, but if it's in person

1018
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:56.360
<v Speaker 2>or remote work, it doesn't matter. We call that energy

1019
01:02:56.440 --> 01:02:59.119
<v Speaker 2>up and we cut it out and remove it so

1020
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:03.199
<v Speaker 2>you can heal and move fast, move forward quicker, and

1021
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:06.119
<v Speaker 2>you can get your ex out of your life literally

1022
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:08.840
<v Speaker 2>because that person, when you have sex with somebody, you

1023
01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:12.239
<v Speaker 2>share part of your soul with them. And you know,

1024
01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I know how to go in and help people heal

1025
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:17.360
<v Speaker 2>from that. And that's the That's the number one thing

1026
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I do. You know I've done that fifteen sixteen hundred

1027
01:03:21.960 --> 01:03:29.360
<v Speaker 2>times easy and over the last couple of years. Now

1028
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:31.480
<v Speaker 2>it makes life different. Yeah.

1029
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:33.480
<v Speaker 3>I was going to ask, like, how often are you

1030
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:35.199
<v Speaker 3>being reached out to?

1031
01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Every day? Every day? I've got I've got clients in

1032
01:03:41.800 --> 01:03:45.880
<v Speaker 2>eighty seven countries now, so you know you can do

1033
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:48.480
<v Speaker 2>this work long distance. You don't have to be in

1034
01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:50.360
<v Speaker 2>front of them. I mean, I'm not the one doing

1035
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:53.199
<v Speaker 2>the work. I channel the Holy Sacred Spirit. Raiki's channeling

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<v Speaker 2>the Holy Sacred Spirit to flow through me to do

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<v Speaker 2>my crown chakra at the top of my head into

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<v Speaker 2>my body into the client. But i also work at

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<v Speaker 2>a quantum level and I've just got some very unique

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<v Speaker 2>gifts in One of the things I have the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to do is ask call angels in and place angels

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<v Speaker 2>with people, and the angels work on them too, So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I've got I've got a there's an Indian

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<v Speaker 2>culture here in Virginia Beach, and there's I'm very popular

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<v Speaker 2>with them. So when their family comes from India, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things we do is they bring them right

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<v Speaker 2>from the airport to my office and so, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes there'll be eight or ten people, you know, every

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<v Speaker 2>eight or ten hours where the healing work being done

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<v Speaker 2>because they want to clear all the energy off of

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01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:46.559
<v Speaker 2>them traveling and all that and resetting the energy for

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<v Speaker 2>being appropriate for them on their vacation for being here

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<v Speaker 2>for a couple of months. It's kind of it's funny

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<v Speaker 2>because none of them, there's only one of them, speaks

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<v Speaker 2>English and they just stare at me and let me

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<v Speaker 2>do that work. But they're really nice people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well we can probably wrap this up before we do.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, I definitely appreciate you coming on

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<v Speaker 3>here and sharing that. Man, Thank you, and I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>for you to let everyone know again where they can

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<v Speaker 3>find your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure enlightening and unknown Life of a Spiritual Nomad. You

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<v Speaker 2>can find it most anywhere you Google. It's going to

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<v Speaker 2>show up 's on YouTube. Based on my brain's not

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<v Speaker 2>even working out after talking to this stuff, any of

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<v Speaker 2>the programs that carry podcasts were listed.

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<v Speaker 3>So pretty much anywhere you find Tenfoil Tells you can

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<v Speaker 3>find your podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're on there with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome, Well less, it has been a pleasure talking.

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<v Speaker 2>To you, man, I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for making the time for me and allowing me to

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<v Speaker 2>be on your show. I really appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a good night you too.

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<v Speaker 3>If you'd like to be a guest on Tenfoil Tells,

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<v Speaker 3>remember to send an email to Tinfoil Tales podcast at

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<v Speaker 3>gmail dot com or go to tenfoiltales dot com and

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<v Speaker 3>go to the contact section. Make sure to follow me

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<v Speaker 3>around on all the social media's and just remember truth

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<v Speaker 3>comes at a cost. Are you willing to pay the price?

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard a story be laid last night about something

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<v Speaker 1>alert along a wood line, you foot print strange lights

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<v Speaker 1>in the sky.

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<v Speaker 4>They claim it's nothing, but I know they light. It

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01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:39.079
<v Speaker 4>s easier laughing to laugh in my face. But something

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<v Speaker 4>about this makes.

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<v Speaker 2>Me say, what if it's real? What if they knew?

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<v Speaker 4>What if the answers are coming from you, spending story,

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<v Speaker 4>wasting minds time.

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<v Speaker 1>Hearing boys? Is it all in their minds? They can

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<v Speaker 1>call me crazy, but I just want some broom.

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<v Speaker 2>What if it's true?

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01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:05.519
<v Speaker 1>What if it's real?

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01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:07.440
<v Speaker 2>What if it's true?

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01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:09.639
<v Speaker 4>What it for? Worlds?

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<v Speaker 1>Not what we do till all the tales blend me?

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<v Speaker 4>A story that starts where the line is gets. What

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<v Speaker 4>if it's real? What if it's true?

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<v Speaker 1>The answers are waiting, They're waiting for you.

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<v Speaker 4>They see if the dog man walking, or maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 4>offman flights. I love the fairy giants hidden beneath the lies.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, it's just stories. It's all they believe, the

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<v Speaker 2>fairy tale sport of things we can't perceive. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to keep us blindly, They want to break our wheel.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not buying it. I'm not swallowing another pill,

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<v Speaker 1>force fed poison. The lines were made to what if the.

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<v Speaker 4>Truth could set us free a suse traveling through time,

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<v Speaker 4>secret space programs, racing their minds.

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<v Speaker 2>They call them crazy, but I just need some fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>What if it's true? What if it's real? What if

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<v Speaker 2>it's true? What if the worlds not what we do?

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<v Speaker 1>Fimfoil tells believe me.

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<v Speaker 2>In a story that starts where the logic is. What

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<v Speaker 2>if it's real? What if it's true?

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<v Speaker 4>The answers are waiting, They're weighing for you.

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<v Speaker 1>They they lie, We all been dining.

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<v Speaker 4>The signs are there if you open your eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Aliens cricked its demon's ghost, the getul them too.

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<v Speaker 2>What if it's me?

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<v Speaker 4>Or what if it's real?

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01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:54.680
<v Speaker 1>What if it's real?

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<v Speaker 4>What if it's true?

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01:08:57.439 --> 01:09:00.239
<v Speaker 1>What if the worlds not what we do?

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<v Speaker 2>Tinfoil tells fully me a story that.

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<v Speaker 4>Starts where the lodges And what if it's read?

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<v Speaker 2>What if that's true? The dancers are waiting, They're waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for you. It's all in our heads, it's all in

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<v Speaker 2>our binders. These voices can be silenced. The truth must rise.

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<v Speaker 1>Simple tell it's pulling me?

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<v Speaker 2>What if it's reading? What if it's true