Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out
Speaker 1: of there.
Speaker 2: I was done.
Speaker 1: I wasn't dealing with them.
Speaker 3: The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things
Speaker 3: that turned me.
Speaker 2: Away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on,
Speaker 2: it turned and looked at us. And one of the
Speaker 2: things I remember the most where the eyes were going red.
Speaker 2: I see an orb of light. It is just circling
Speaker 2: these steps like it is waiting for me.
Speaker 4: And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.
Speaker 2: They're basically like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 1: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
Speaker 1: and that's where I saw.
Speaker 3: The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes.
Speaker 2: As soon as I made eye contact with this thing.
Speaker 2: It don't like death.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Tinfoil tells. I'm your host, Brandon to I,
Speaker 3: we're joined by my guest Wess. Thanks for coming here
Speaker 3: talking with me.
Speaker 2: Hey, Brandon, thanks for having me on the show. It's
Speaker 2: a privilege. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Not a problem. Would you like to let the audience
Speaker 3: know a little bit about yourself?
Speaker 2: Sure, you know I live in Virginia Beach. I've got
Speaker 2: a podcast called Enlightenment Unknown Life of a spiritual nomad.
Speaker 2: A friend of mine encouraged me to start that podcast
Speaker 2: and tell a story it happened to me and I
Speaker 2: guess is twenty nineteen. So we talked about this extraordinary
Speaker 2: paranormal experience that I went through for almost a year.
Speaker 3: Well, if you would like to share that on here,
Speaker 3: I definitely want to hear about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, Well there's lots of moving parts. I think
Speaker 2: it was. I think we recorded about fifteen sixteen hours
Speaker 2: of it. But basically what happened is I bought this house,
Speaker 2: and you know, I was gonna in my mind, I
Speaker 2: I was gonna marry this girl. We were going to
Speaker 2: adopt her nephew. And when we moved in the house,
Speaker 2: we moved the swimming pool and whatever was in the
Speaker 2: ground where the swimming pool was unlocked something. You know,
Speaker 2: the house started to act weird. You know, in some
Speaker 2: of the scary movies, if there's a scene and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, like the hallway gets longer. You know,
Speaker 2: if when she and I would start arguing, that would happen.
Speaker 2: It was really bizarre. I didn't realize that schizophrenia was
Speaker 2: turning on for her. Was on her father's side of
Speaker 2: the family. So when we moved in the house, of course,
Speaker 2: you know, the person I was dating quickly became somebody
Speaker 2: I didn't know, And so there was a lot of
Speaker 2: arguments and stuff in the house, and you would start
Speaker 2: hearing music in the walls. It was creepy. It was
Speaker 2: like nineteen twenties music. And if you put your ear
Speaker 2: against the wall, you couldn't hear it. But if you're
Speaker 2: sitting in the chair about a foot from the wall,
Speaker 2: you could hear it. And you know, long story short,
Speaker 2: she was gone, she moved out of the house, and
Speaker 2: I was sitting in the bedroom one evening with my dogs.
Speaker 2: I was eating the ice cream sandwich, and about ten
Speaker 2: o'clock at night, you heard these lions wore down in
Speaker 2: the dining room. I mean it was nobody could have
Speaker 2: created that sound. A human could not have made it
Speaker 2: that loud. A human could not have done that. And
Speaker 2: in my mind, Brandon I was like, hey, dogs, go
Speaker 2: be dogs, and you know they didn't go. So I
Speaker 2: went downstairs with my weapon, and as I came around
Speaker 2: the corner, there is this demon there. It's like somebody
Speaker 2: took fifty pounds of shaved black chalk and threw it
Speaker 2: in the air. You see its eyes, its horns, and frankly,
Speaker 2: it was I think it was as startled to see
Speaker 2: me as I was to see it. So as I
Speaker 2: backed up, it ran upstairs and one of the dogs
Speaker 2: was a German shepherd and the other was a Yorky
Speaker 2: and the Yorky barked at it, and I couldn't find
Speaker 2: it after that. But you know, the house was goofy
Speaker 2: prior to that, Brandon, but after this, you know, the
Speaker 2: paranormal stuff in that place just started going nuts. You know,
Speaker 2: you would close the bedroom door and you clearly see
Speaker 2: people walking by, but with the security camera I bought
Speaker 2: on the other side of the bedroom door, there's nothing there.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I guess that lasted for a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, and then one evening, the uh the
Speaker 2: lights down in the in the dining room were flickering,
Speaker 2: so it had you know those Edison bobs. There's little
Speaker 2: forty what balls you could put in your dining room. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it's enough to see something, but that's about it. Well,
Speaker 2: whatever was there was making that light bulb look like
Speaker 2: I mean, it was right than the headlight in your truck.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I went downstairs, me being me, and I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, this is a house f and God
Speaker 2: and cut the crap. And I turned the light switch off.
Speaker 2: And I don't even know why I said that about God,
Speaker 2: you know, I just that was not normally, that was
Speaker 2: not my vocabulary back then. But the second I did,
Speaker 2: you could feel an energy in that house and anger.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like it bled through the walls. It
Speaker 2: was the most bizarre experience. And one of the things
Speaker 2: that started happening in the house when it got really
Speaker 2: demonic in the house, the lights in the kitchen would
Speaker 2: turn blue. Have you ever heard of that?
Speaker 3: Not blue, but I've heard of the lights like flickering
Speaker 3: and stuff, but never changing color.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this thing turned blue. Never did figure that out.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's not a blue light bulb in the light, right,
Speaker 2: So you know, I started heading upstairs and I started
Speaker 2: looking around, and you know, there's this fog started to
Speaker 2: appear this miss and I'm like, man, what is going on?
Speaker 2: So I went into the bedroom. It was a big house.
Speaker 2: It had two doors going into the master bedroom that
Speaker 2: were three feet wide, and with the doors closed, you
Speaker 2: could see the light around, you know, around the sides
Speaker 2: of the door. Right, so you could see that coming through.
Speaker 2: And by the time I got up there, I was
Speaker 2: so creeped out. I closed the door and I had
Speaker 2: some string and I tied the door shut. And as
Speaker 2: I backed up and I was sitting on the bed
Speaker 2: just watching, and all of a sudden, you didn't hear music.
Speaker 2: There was a party in the other side, on the
Speaker 2: other side of the door. It was like a nineteen
Speaker 2: twenties party. There's people talking. You could clearly hear multiple
Speaker 2: people walking up and down the stairs. And when I'm
Speaker 2: looking on the security cameras through the there's nothing there,
Speaker 2: but you could see where this fog was getting thicker
Speaker 2: and thicker. And I don't know that lasted a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes. So Texans and friends they're like, hey, call
Speaker 2: the cops. I'm like, okay, hey, Brandon, call the cops.
Speaker 2: You know, see if you'll go to the nuthouse tonight.
Speaker 2: But uh, about that time, I don't know what was
Speaker 2: walking down the hallway, but something, you know, I'm two
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty pounds, six foot one, and I couldn't
Speaker 2: afterwards jump up and down and stomp to get the
Speaker 2: same effect that whatever was walking down the hall was
Speaker 2: shaking the entire upstairs, and uh so it came down
Speaker 2: the hallway and you could hear it where it's like
Speaker 2: its feet came together. You could tell it turned to
Speaker 2: facing my door, and so I'm looking at the security
Speaker 2: camera and you don't see anything on the other side
Speaker 2: of the door, but on my side of the door,
Speaker 2: the light around the frame of the door was solid black.
Speaker 2: I mean, there was no light coming through whatsoever. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, what in the world. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: panicked at that time. I mean, at this point, it
Speaker 2: had probably been about a month, month and a half
Speaker 2: a weird stuff. You know. We did some we had
Speaker 2: some people come over and they blessed the house. And
Speaker 2: when we were doing that, you could hear every single
Speaker 2: window in the house tap, like something was tapping to
Speaker 2: get out. And so we would open all the windows
Speaker 2: and you would hear it. It's like, you know, the
Speaker 2: windows cranked out, so you would hear it tapping on
Speaker 2: the way out, and you know, dude, it was just
Speaker 2: super bizarre. So our friends are like, you know, this
Speaker 2: can't be real. You know, you need to call the police.
Speaker 2: And you know, I sat there and I said, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna retired Marie, and I said, you know, f this,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take care of it myself. And as
Speaker 2: the second I said that, and I grabbed my servant,
Speaker 2: my weapon again whatever that was, kicked the door and
Speaker 2: had the string not been tied on there as actually
Speaker 2: as like a parachute rope, that door would have came
Speaker 2: flying open. And I'm like, hey man, I'm gonna wait
Speaker 2: five minutes before I beat your ass, all right, I
Speaker 2: mean I was. I was clearly shaken, and I just
Speaker 2: didn't know what to do. So, you know, my human
Speaker 2: mind said, oh, there's there's an electrical fire. That's what
Speaker 2: the smoke is. You know, the other stuff I don't know,
Speaker 2: but that you know that that fog or whatever is smoke.
Speaker 2: And so I untied the door, and when I did,
Speaker 2: I stepped into the hallway and it was instantly it
Speaker 2: felt like it's below zero. I've never been so cold,
Speaker 2: instantly in my life, shivering from head to toe. And
Speaker 2: you know, I ski in short so I don't get cold,
Speaker 2: but I was. I was. I was instantly shaking, and
Speaker 2: the whole upstairs was basically filled with this fog. And
Speaker 2: in the center of the fog, it was like I
Speaker 2: don't know. It was like it was swirling. There was
Speaker 2: like a like a like a thunderstorm is what it
Speaker 2: looked like in the center of it, just swirling really slow.
Speaker 2: And so I stepped back in the bedroom. I'm like, dude, man,
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on, but you know, I'm
Speaker 2: in trouble. So I tied the door. And when I
Speaker 2: stepped back into the room, I realized something came in
Speaker 2: the room with me because as I'm standing there, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's like this wind blowing in my face, like something
Speaker 2: was screaming at me. But there's I mean, the ceiling
Speaker 2: fan wasn't on. There there was no wind in the
Speaker 2: in the bedroom. And I remember how startled I was.
Speaker 2: And I stepped back and I you know, I probably
Speaker 2: cussed at it and told her to get off me,
Speaker 2: and and it's like it made it more angry. And
Speaker 2: then it just came at me and it was my
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of keep fairly short hair. My
Speaker 2: hair was blowing. I remember how strange that was. You know,
Speaker 2: my hair doesn't really blow unless it's you know, the
Speaker 2: car windows down or something. And uh, you know, when
Speaker 2: we moved into the house, I could feel my mom
Speaker 2: all the time in there, and when her nephew would
Speaker 2: come over and play, we would take pictures and you
Speaker 2: would see like these little distorted like orbs or whatever
Speaker 2: next to his head. And yeah, I knew my mom
Speaker 2: was there, and I just felt her presence, and I
Speaker 2: remember I just started I started to cry and I said, Mom,
Speaker 2: I said, I know you're scared. Because as the house
Speaker 2: got darker, the less I felt her. It was almost
Speaker 2: like she was going in this hole. And and I said, Brandon,
Speaker 2: I said, you know, I pleaded with her. I said,
Speaker 2: you've got to help me. And instantly, whatever's blow was
Speaker 2: was just was just gone, just gone. And you know,
Speaker 2: the door didn't have to be open or anything like that,
Speaker 2: but it was just gone out of the room. So
Speaker 2: you know, I went over the side of the bed,
Speaker 2: and I mean I was just sobbing. I was just
Speaker 2: so freaking scared, and I felt this cold on my
Speaker 2: left shoulder and I jumped. And you know, when my
Speaker 2: mom was alive, she would rub your shoulder and give
Speaker 2: you a kiss on your temple if you're sad, and
Speaker 2: that's what I felt. That's where the coldness was on
Speaker 2: both of those So you know, I know for my
Speaker 2: mom helped me, and she stayed and she pushed whatever
Speaker 2: that out that was out, And so this went on
Speaker 2: for like probably twenty five minutes. And so I'm looking
Speaker 2: at the security cameras the entire upstairs. You couldn't the
Speaker 2: security camera, couldn't even see the door anymore. The fog
Speaker 2: was so thick, and uh, you know, I wasn't going
Speaker 2: to call the cops, and that would been that's been crazy, man.
Speaker 2: But uh so I decided I was going to go
Speaker 2: downstairs and turn that light back on. But I wasn't
Speaker 2: going to bring my dog through the through the fog,
Speaker 2: and so I contemplated taking my weapon with me. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what what you know? You know this isn't human whatever
Speaker 2: it is. So I left my weapon on the on
Speaker 2: the bed, and uh, you know, running and because I
Speaker 2: ran fast, dude, you know, running down the stairs through
Speaker 2: that hallway and not being able to see six inches
Speaker 2: in front of you was terrifying. I didn't know what
Speaker 2: was going to be there. And when I got downstairs,
Speaker 2: I turned the light on in that dining room and
Speaker 2: instantly it was so bright I couldn't see anything. And
Speaker 2: so I I ran back upstairs and probably within about
Speaker 2: seven to ten minutes, all the fog was gone, and
Speaker 2: so I grabbed my dog, my weapon, and three ice
Speaker 2: cream sandwiches, my keys to the camper, and I started
Speaker 2: sleeping in the camper. But that was the night that
Speaker 2: things started to get crazy. But this this lasted nine
Speaker 2: ten months, and you know, there was a couple of
Speaker 2: exorcisms I had to go through. There was a Native
Speaker 2: American rebirthing ceremony where I had to dig my own
Speaker 2: grave and energetically die, and then I was reborn trying
Speaker 2: to fix this stuff. You know, the priest comes to
Speaker 2: the house and I'm picked up and thrown against the
Speaker 2: wall in front of thrown backwards like at a forty
Speaker 2: five degree angle to the ceiling, up against the wall
Speaker 2: in front of six people. And you know, it was
Speaker 2: like every single day it got more and more bizarre,
Speaker 2: more crazy. And you know I could tell you I
Speaker 2: wouldn't I wouldn't recommend it, and I wouldn't want to
Speaker 2: go through it again. I've never been scared. You know,
Speaker 2: you go into combat and you're you're scared. You're scared
Speaker 2: to get married, You're scared, you're gonna be you know,
Speaker 2: your child's coming it's scary being a parent, but this
Speaker 2: is a level of fear that seeps into your bones
Speaker 2: that you can't control your shaking. It was that bad.
Speaker 2: And it was just you know, there's so many different
Speaker 2: ways I could talk about in the story, you know,
Speaker 2: something crawling down my throat at one point, you know,
Speaker 2: helping these slaves cross over that had been there. We
Speaker 2: figured that we came to the conclusion as best we
Speaker 2: could that there was a slave ship that had docked
Speaker 2: where my house was. That was actually an old port
Speaker 2: there at one point that we believe that there was
Speaker 2: slaves taken from Africa that had died on the ship
Speaker 2: and they just threw in a hole. And when we
Speaker 2: opened the swimming pool, it created some kind of portal
Speaker 2: or something that allowed all this demonic energy to come out.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was a lot, man, it was a lot.
Speaker 3: They claimed water could channel energy too, so with the
Speaker 3: pool and everything else, it could have been a way
Speaker 3: for them to feed off of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a little finger leaning of water back
Speaker 2: behind the house and did that. That was bizarre. You know,
Speaker 2: you go back there and it would almost you know,
Speaker 2: like they had the tar pits in Los Angeles and
Speaker 2: stuff is like the water would bubble like that. And
Speaker 2: I ended up meeting this healer, this lady named sander
Speaker 2: Grace Brooks, and dude, sander Grace always had a smile
Speaker 2: on her face, laughed all the time. But you know,
Speaker 2: people went to her to be healed and she and
Speaker 2: she did that work. I didn't understand what it was
Speaker 2: at the time, and we did a ceremony in the
Speaker 2: backyard trying to fix that. And one of the things
Speaker 2: that did happen is afterwards the water, you know, the
Speaker 2: water didn't bubble and gurgle like it was before a
Speaker 2: fish started to jump in there. It was every day
Speaker 2: was a you know, like what in the world is happening?
Speaker 2: At a level ten every single day. But I think
Speaker 2: the worst night the worst night out of all of it,
Speaker 2: and that's saying something, because there was so much. You know,
Speaker 2: I had been living in the camper on the sideyard,
Speaker 2: so the house was about forty eight hundred square foot
Speaker 2: and it was more the land was more wide than deep.
Speaker 2: And there's a little fingerling in the water back there,
Speaker 2: and there's a detached garage and you know it was
Speaker 2: put in in a swimming pool, and you know, just
Speaker 2: trying to make it nice. And in my mind that
Speaker 2: was going to be my last house I was gonna
Speaker 2: gonna buy, so I wanted to do some cool things
Speaker 2: to it. And so I'm living in the camper and
Speaker 2: it was our It was fourth of July weekend and
Speaker 2: my family goes to the Outer Banks, North Carolina for
Speaker 2: two weeks every year, so I was supposed to call
Speaker 2: down for three days, and uh so I got somebody
Speaker 2: to watch my German shepherd. At that time, the YORKI
Speaker 2: had gone to live with her mom, and you know,
Speaker 2: we had done this big ceremony at the house a
Speaker 2: couple of days before. But previous to that, I ended
Speaker 2: up talking to this woman from Madagascar, Madagascar, and you know,
Speaker 2: I was spending my days calling people trying to fix
Speaker 2: this stuff, and the lady wasn't nice Brandon. She goes, look,
Speaker 2: you're too fing stupid for me to explain it to you.
Speaker 2: But every time you do a he on the house,
Speaker 2: you know, blessed or whatever, you're actually giving it more power.
Speaker 2: And you know when she said that that was right,
Speaker 2: because it was I didn't really verbalize it before that,
Speaker 2: but it did. But you know, have you ever heard
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 3: I mean, have you ever come across that of giving
Speaker 3: things power?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the house is haunted, you go in there
Speaker 2: and you're trying to fix the haunted house. It gets
Speaker 2: better for a couple of days, but then it comes
Speaker 2: back even more powerful. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the exact words are for it,
Speaker 3: but I've heard if you basically feed the energy by
Speaker 3: acknowledging it mm hm. So if you're trying to get
Speaker 3: rid of it, you're giving it power by basically acknowledging
Speaker 3: that it's there. Okay, And depending on what type of
Speaker 3: entity this is or what type of energy it is, like,
Speaker 3: it can grow stronger if you're not doing it properly.
Speaker 3: So it might leave, but it comes back and it's
Speaker 3: got more power because you fed into it, and now
Speaker 3: it's feeding off of that fear that you have of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, maybe that's that's what it was.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 2: We did not listen to her warning and we did
Speaker 2: this this healing session and fourth of July weekend was coming.
Speaker 2: So one of the things you could do is look
Speaker 2: at the security cameras, and you know, if you're looking
Speaker 2: at the outside of security cameras, everything on my property
Speaker 2: at night would vibrate like somebody is shaking their hand
Speaker 2: back and forth. But when you would see where the
Speaker 2: line of the property is, like where your house might be,
Speaker 2: the trees were perfectly normal, and you look in the
Speaker 2: house and where clearly you should see a window, the
Speaker 2: energy flowing in there from these portals that were coming
Speaker 2: to the house was so intense you couldn't even see
Speaker 2: the window. And so there was like four or five
Speaker 2: portals like bringing stuff in. So I think it was
Speaker 2: kind of like like there was portals bringing souls in,
Speaker 2: and these demonic energies were feeding off of them, and
Speaker 2: the house was getting more and more and more powerful.
Speaker 2: So I head down to the outer Banks for three
Speaker 2: days and I get down there and I'm just fixated
Speaker 2: at staring at my phone, looking at the security camera,
Speaker 2: seeing what's going on in the house. And I quickly
Speaker 2: realized that that extra ceremony we did. You know, previous
Speaker 2: to that, you could stand in the yard and you
Speaker 2: were fine. You can stand in the garage, you were fine.
Speaker 2: But if you went in the house, you know, you
Speaker 2: could feel it, you could see them. And one of
Speaker 2: the things that would happen if I go in the house,
Speaker 2: you know, all I would think about was doing drugs
Speaker 2: and kill myself, and I would step across that threshold
Speaker 2: and those thoughts would be gone. So I did not
Speaker 2: like to go in the house. And but well you
Speaker 2: could tell that it was basically for the most part,
Speaker 2: contained in the home at that time. But this weekend,
Speaker 2: that weekend, when I was looking at the cameras, that's
Speaker 2: when I seen the trees and stuff shaking for the
Speaker 2: very first time. So I realized what we did made
Speaker 2: it so powerful that it was able to leave the
Speaker 2: confines of the house and take over the property. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, well, you know that kind of
Speaker 2: was stressing me out a good bit. So I left
Speaker 2: the next morning really early because I wanted to go.
Speaker 2: I needed I wanted to get the camper off the property,
Speaker 2: and I needed to find somewhere to stay. And so
Speaker 2: I got home and messed around for a little bit,
Speaker 2: but I ended up staying in a hotel that night.
Speaker 2: And when I was getting dressed and stuff, I realized
Speaker 2: that the demons. This is the first time the demons
Speaker 2: were able to follow me, and I just felt them
Speaker 2: in the room and I could take you take a
Speaker 2: picture of your cell phone, and you see these horrible
Speaker 2: faces in the corners of the walls. So you know,
Speaker 2: it's Virginia Beach Life fourth weekend. And went down to
Speaker 2: the beach when out with my friends. Came back to
Speaker 2: the room probably one two o'clock in the morning, and
Speaker 2: you know, I went to sleep. And have you ever
Speaker 2: experienced sleep proalysis?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I get it every once in a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know. One of the things that I found
Speaker 2: that really helps me not have that is prayers. I
Speaker 2: just asked. I just say, you know, ask my angels, angels, angels,
Speaker 2: will you rap me and protect me while I sleep
Speaker 2: or something like that, and it tends to really do
Speaker 2: well for me. But I went to sleep and and
Speaker 2: somewhere through the night I woke up with that sleep proalysis,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, at some point in my mind
Speaker 2: I said, I said, Jesus Christ. And you got to remember, man,
Speaker 2: I didn't grow up in the church. I didn't know
Speaker 2: anything about the church. I didn't know anything about Jesus.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to know anything about Jesus. You know,
Speaker 2: I was molested as a kid, and in my mind,
Speaker 2: if that dude was real, he's gonna, you know, he's
Speaker 2: gonna save me or something, So you know, I had
Speaker 2: a lot of anger there over that, and uh but
Speaker 2: the second I said that, it released me and I
Speaker 2: took this giant gasp of air, and as I did,
Speaker 2: whatever was in the room pried my mouth open and
Speaker 2: started to crawl down my throat. You know, I could feel,
Speaker 2: you know, the muscles being stretched and the bones of
Speaker 2: my chest cracking. You could feel it, you could feel
Speaker 2: it moving the organs, and I remember being so so
Speaker 2: terrified and just just I was just sitting there crying,
Speaker 2: you know. And I've never been so alone before. I'd
Speaker 2: already been months trying to get somebody to help me,
Speaker 2: and now something had crawled into my chest and you
Speaker 2: could you know, I was sleeping in a T shirt
Speaker 2: and you can see the T shirt and the skin
Speaker 2: moving underneath of it, and you know, it was it
Speaker 2: was an experience that I don't really know how to
Speaker 2: verbalize how bad that was. And I just remember satting
Speaker 2: there sobbing. I was just freaking hysterically crying. I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm supposed to do. And I've
Speaker 2: never really prayed before, and I just started to pray.
Speaker 2: I just said God, I said, I need you to
Speaker 2: help me, you know, and I just I just sobbed
Speaker 2: and called to him over and over, and you know,
Speaker 2: Jesus didn't come, ourk angel, Michael didn't come, you know,
Speaker 2: these angels didn't come. But at some point I'm laying
Speaker 2: in bed and you know, in your hotel room, there's
Speaker 2: always like a little light in there so you can
Speaker 2: kind of see the room, right, and I still don't
Speaker 2: know what it is, but there was these these like
Speaker 2: giant tic TACs about bigger than a football. It started
Speaker 2: to slowly come down from the ceiling. It was this,
Speaker 2: It was the most bizarre thing, but it was the
Speaker 2: feeling of the room was if you've ever been out
Speaker 2: in the woods and it's snowing, how it's like it's
Speaker 2: deafening silent. Yeah. Yeah, So you know, these things were
Speaker 2: floating down all around me and I have no idea
Speaker 2: what they were, but you know, the pain in my
Speaker 2: chest went away, and there was just this sense of
Speaker 2: it was kind of like, you know, hey man, you know,
Speaker 2: we see you, we hear you. You know, you know
Speaker 2: you're not alone. But they didn't save me. And but
Speaker 2: that was enough, you know, it was just you know,
Speaker 2: for the first time through this whole process. And this
Speaker 2: started in February, so you know, February, March, April, May, June.
Speaker 2: You know, your five, five plus months into this thing,
Speaker 2: and you've got your first something coming down. And I
Speaker 2: never did figure out what that was. I have no idea,
Speaker 2: but I just remember I was watching it until I
Speaker 2: just couldn't keep my eyes open anymore and I just
Speaker 2: fell asleep. And you know, that was probably the worst
Speaker 2: night out of all of it, and there was a
Speaker 2: lot of bad nights, but you know, the one of
Speaker 2: the things they did to me as a little boy,
Speaker 2: I was molested. And you know when you're when when
Speaker 2: when that happens, your you know, your backside gets torn
Speaker 2: and m hm hm. They had the unique ability to
Speaker 2: make it torn for like nine months and there was
Speaker 2: no reason why. And when this was happening that night,
Speaker 2: I could feel like rips in my skin. I had
Speaker 2: uh like claw marks on my chest, and you know,
Speaker 2: the the level of I guess just yeah, you're in
Speaker 2: the deepest victim energy you've ever experienced in your life,
Speaker 2: and you didn't know what to do right And from
Speaker 2: that night forward, they crawled on me like roaches. Every day.
Speaker 2: My eyes, my ears everywhere, and that was relentless. That
Speaker 2: was it looked like I was on drugs all the time,
Speaker 2: scratching and itching and trying to figure things out. And
Speaker 2: you know, from from that point on, every day just
Speaker 2: got worse. Man, just every day got worse. You know,
Speaker 2: they wanted me dead. And you know that that lady
Speaker 2: from Madagascar said, she said, uh, she said, you cannot
Speaker 2: sleep in the house anymore because they'll kill you if
Speaker 2: you stay in the house. But they can't kill you outside.
Speaker 2: But they're going to try to get you to take
Speaker 2: your own life. And you know, I would love to
Speaker 2: say that wasn't a thought, but dude, I mean every
Speaker 2: night for months, I'd sat in my bed with my
Speaker 2: forty five next to me, trying to figure out, you know,
Speaker 2: if if we can't fix this, you know, there was
Speaker 2: no way I was going to be able to live
Speaker 2: like that. There's no way, I mean, how do I
Speaker 2: take my own life? Was my thought? Not go to
Speaker 2: hell and not destroy my children. And you know, thank
Speaker 2: god I didn't figure that out. But you know, every
Speaker 2: every night I would just you know, I look at it.
Speaker 2: I say, you know, I could just grab it and
Speaker 2: just do it real quick, and I remember a friend
Speaker 2: of mine told me a long time ago that, you know,
Speaker 2: suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. And
Speaker 2: you know, I'd see that over and over over and over.
Speaker 2: I said, it's just a temporary problem. I didn't know
Speaker 2: what the solution was going to be, and you know
Speaker 2: it was it was that it was that bad. And
Speaker 2: you know, the funny thing, the best night that I
Speaker 2: had was probably in August. So at this time, you know,
Speaker 2: we've been doing through tons of crazy stuff. I had
Speaker 2: been through one exorcism, which we can talk about if
Speaker 2: you like. There's another one that was going to happen,
Speaker 2: but you know, through this, I kept asking for somebody
Speaker 2: to do an exorcism on the house. I didn't realize
Speaker 2: when I was touched as a child that something was
Speaker 2: placed inside me, which kind of made sense to me
Speaker 2: after I realized that was there. You know, there's lots
Speaker 2: of pieces of my life that I'm like that would
Speaker 2: make sense to me. And so Kennedy, my German shepherd,
Speaker 2: and I were in my camper and honest answer is, dude,
Speaker 2: I was sitting there. You know, it was probably eight
Speaker 2: or ten beers into two a twelve pack. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what else am I going to do? Is like two
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning. I was miserable. I was itching,
Speaker 2: I was torn, My skin had cuts in it. I
Speaker 2: had sheets and blankets over all the mirrors in the RB,
Speaker 2: because you know, you think I would see things coming
Speaker 2: out of it, and there was just there was demons.
Speaker 2: They're freaking everywhere in there. They're just everywhere. And you know,
Speaker 2: my German shepherd would look at them and look at me,
Speaker 2: look at them and look at me, and she was
Speaker 2: kind of like laying on my chest trying to protect me.
Speaker 2: And she was the best damn dog. And I was
Speaker 2: looking at that pistol. I was like, you know, I
Speaker 2: drank two or three more beers. I could probably do
Speaker 2: that tonight. And then I remember thinking, I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I mean, what's going to happen to Kennedy. You know,
Speaker 2: she's going to be in in the middle of that mess.
Speaker 2: And you know, those were my thoughts. That's where I
Speaker 2: was at. And it's funny. There was this one wall
Speaker 2: and you see this demon. I mean I mean you
Speaker 2: literally seen its hands come through the wall and it's
Speaker 2: like it was it didn't literally ripped the wallpaper, but
Speaker 2: it pulled it apart and stuck his head through, and
Speaker 2: it looked like fucking Roy Orbison. It did the glasses
Speaker 2: and everything. I just looked at I said, Roy, that's
Speaker 2: what happened. And I looked at the and Kennedy was
Speaker 2: just frustrated, and I got mad at her. I said,
Speaker 2: stick your head under the pillow because they can't kill you.
Speaker 2: And she goes and sticks her head under the pillow
Speaker 2: and she went right to sleep. And that reminded me,
Speaker 2: you know, they can't kill me, so I was thinking.
Speaker 2: I remember, I just started hysterically laughing because the pain
Speaker 2: that they were putting me through was nothing compared to
Speaker 2: what the Marine Corps did to me. You know, there
Speaker 2: was this there's this one day Marine Corps boot camp,
Speaker 2: this drill instructor. They were a Parris Island, South Carolina.
Speaker 2: The guy's name was Cochlan. And you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if every unit had one that was just super psycho,
Speaker 2: but this guy, dude, I mean, those drill instructors are
Speaker 2: off the chain, but this guy was just to a
Speaker 2: next level and we were terrified to him. And he
Speaker 2: was working a Saturday. So if he's working a Saturday,
Speaker 2: he got in trouble, and if he got in trouble,
Speaker 2: we're going to pay. And I remember he was taking
Speaker 2: us out and lining us up out outside and he said,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you pay. You're undisciplined. You make me sick.
Speaker 2: I mean, the guy was just going off and we're
Speaker 2: like two weeks away from graduating boot camp, and so
Speaker 2: he marches us back towards the swamp. And you know,
Speaker 2: there's certain areas that you just don't go, and we
Speaker 2: were going to an area that you weren't supposed to go,
Speaker 2: and we're going to an area that nobody's seen you.
Speaker 2: And I can promise you. I don't know what boot
Speaker 2: camp's like today, but boot camp in nineteen eighty eight,
Speaker 2: you did not want to go into an area with
Speaker 2: a drill instructor, especially this drill instructor, and there was
Speaker 2: nobody that could see what you're doing and where you're
Speaker 2: at and while you're there, because he would hurt you
Speaker 2: at a deep level. And he took us back there
Speaker 2: and lined us up by the swamp. And you got
Speaker 2: to remember, I mean they freaked us out because it's
Speaker 2: down South Carolina. You know, they beat it in our head.
Speaker 2: If we tried to escape or any eaten by the alligators.
Speaker 2: He said, we're going to teach you discipline today, and
Speaker 2: we're going to stay here and we're going to watch
Speaker 2: you bleed until I get tired. And you know the
Speaker 2: sand fleas in South Paris Island, you know those things.
Speaker 2: You couldn't see him, but they they bite you and
Speaker 2: you're you're just there's just blood dripping off of us.
Speaker 2: And he had us there for hours, and you know,
Speaker 2: he never moved. And I didn't realize until a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago he probably had bug spray on. You know,
Speaker 2: we're out there thinking he used all that, you probably
Speaker 2: have bug spray on. I'm sure he did. But you know,
Speaker 2: I thought that that test was given to us. You know,
Speaker 2: we're going to be marines, We're going to be in combat.
Speaker 2: You know, if you get you know, captured, things happen.
Speaker 2: And you know, at least in my mind, you know,
Speaker 2: you you wonder, how are you going to react going
Speaker 2: through that? How are you going to react when you're
Speaker 2: being tortured? And this was a part of that training,
Speaker 2: and you know he did that. I was thinking about
Speaker 2: that that evening that thirty some years earlier, God had
Speaker 2: this guy, take us to the swamp, torture us, do
Speaker 2: things to us for me not to survive being captured
Speaker 2: by the enemy, but for me to not pull the
Speaker 2: trigger in that camper and give up. And you know,
Speaker 2: so when you're looking at that, and you're looking at
Speaker 2: all the different steps in your life and stuff, and
Speaker 2: you know how everything seems to have just kind of
Speaker 2: fallen in place for you to become the person that
Speaker 2: you are. And you know, that was the last time Robert,
Speaker 2: excuse a Robert, and think of my uncle Robert Brandon,
Speaker 2: that that was the last time I ever to my
Speaker 2: weapon with the thoughts of harming myself. And that was
Speaker 2: the best night. It gave me a glimmer of hope,
Speaker 2: you know, and we I think I still had a
Speaker 2: good month or so before, you know, I was going
Speaker 2: to go up to Abington, Virginia. So I live in
Speaker 2: Virginia Beach, and if you look on the map of
Speaker 2: Virginia's and on the coast where Carolina comes together down
Speaker 2: that little tip now in the Norfolk area. We were
Speaker 2: driving to Abington, Virginia, which is on the other side
Speaker 2: of Virginia close to Tennessee. Is where I met this
Speaker 2: native American La Cota medicine woman, and she said that
Speaker 2: she could fix everything, but I had to wait till
Speaker 2: the summer was over to do it. So that was
Speaker 2: happening sometime early September. I was going up there for
Speaker 2: a Native American rebirthing ceremony, and so I still had
Speaker 2: a long way to go at that point.
Speaker 1: Before we.
Speaker 3: Keep going into that, I had a couple of questions,
Speaker 3: and do you think this you mentioned this has been
Speaker 3: going on you afterwards, like since you're a little boy, yep,
Speaker 3: what do you think made it escalate to the point
Speaker 3: where it didn't?
Speaker 2: Now? You know, maybe it was my destiny. You know
Speaker 2: what One of the things that ended up happening through
Speaker 2: this process is, you know, not everybody could see the demons, right.
Speaker 2: I can see the demons. Santa graz can see the demons.
Speaker 2: Some other people I could clearly take a picture and
Speaker 2: you can see it. I mean it was there. I
Speaker 2: mean all my friends would look at the camera and
Speaker 2: they're like, dude, what is that? I'm like right, So
Speaker 2: you know, there was scientific proof that it was there.
Speaker 2: And you know, when we went into this process, you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't have any spiritual gifts. I didn't have you know,
Speaker 2: I wasn't a healer like Sandra Grace. I didn't have
Speaker 2: all this intuition. You know. You see people they you know,
Speaker 2: have spiritual gifts, they're psychic or whatever. And and you know,
Speaker 2: one of the things that was happening to me through
Speaker 2: that process, I think because of the trauma of it is,
Speaker 2: you know, these abilities were turning on, These psychic abilities
Speaker 2: are turning on, these healing abilities were turning on. So
Speaker 2: as you fast forward when it's over, you know, and
Speaker 2: you fast forward to today, you know, people come to
Speaker 2: me from all over the world right now, and I
Speaker 2: helped them heal from pain and stuff. So I think, well,
Speaker 2: I know it was just it was my destiny, and
Speaker 2: so I believe it was God calling me to the table,
Speaker 2: because if the burning bush showed up Wesley, this is God,
Speaker 2: I'd have been like, dude, really, are you freaking kidding me?
Speaker 2: Let's get the fire extinguisher, right. So they showed me
Speaker 2: the demons and put me through that pain and broke me,
Speaker 2: just like the Marine Corps did for me to come
Speaker 2: to the realization because I'm looking at I'm like, well
Speaker 2: that's real. I mean, is that dude real? I mean seriously,
Speaker 2: all this time, I thought the Bible was BS and
Speaker 2: God was BS. That dude's real. And so one of
Speaker 2: the things that was happening is these these gifts were
Speaker 2: turning on. So you know, I could go up. I
Speaker 2: went and touched this this this antique berry picker thing,
Speaker 2: you know, I had like little it was wood and
Speaker 2: it had like little fingers on it and a little
Speaker 2: catcher so you could run it up the branch and
Speaker 2: pick berries. And I remember walking up to it, and
Speaker 2: when I touched it, I could taste the fruit. And
Speaker 2: you know, I could touch a child's toy and I
Speaker 2: could see who was the little girl playing with the toy.
Speaker 2: And you know, I thought I was losing my mind.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I don't understand what's going on.
Speaker 2: But I was so traumatized by the whole experience and
Speaker 2: running from everything, trying to just stay alive. You know,
Speaker 2: I didn't understand that these gifts were turning on. And
Speaker 2: you see where somebody gets in a car accident and
Speaker 2: they're in a coma and they wake up and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden they've got psychic abilities, or you know,
Speaker 2: they're speaking Dutch or something, and it was kind of
Speaker 2: one of those things. So, you know, I think it
Speaker 2: was you know, I believe it was God calling me
Speaker 2: to the table for me to move into this healing
Speaker 2: work that I do. So it's you know, the last
Speaker 2: five six years, dude, Man, it's just been the person
Speaker 2: I was is no longer here, and you know, it
Speaker 2: just gets crazy. You know, things are just different. It's
Speaker 2: just different. I don't know if they answered that question
Speaker 2: or not.
Speaker 3: The other thing I was wondering, is it seemed like
Speaker 3: it when you were at this place, like this house.
Speaker 3: Did you ever talk to anyone else that ever lived
Speaker 3: there prior?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually yeah I did the night that that fog
Speaker 2: was there. You know, a bunch of my friends. I've
Speaker 2: been telling my friends, dude, this house is haunted, you know,
Speaker 2: and everybody's like, oh man, you're stupid. You know, it's
Speaker 2: just what people do. And so I took a picture
Speaker 2: of the fog through the security camera. I said, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: remember how I said the house was haunted and I
Speaker 2: put that picture up there. Well, I didn't. I didn't realize.
Speaker 2: There was a girl that was friends with on Facebook
Speaker 2: and we went to high school together where her dad
Speaker 2: was the builder and he built that house, and she
Speaker 2: said they lived there, so she hit me up and
Speaker 2: she came over. So they lived there for a handful
Speaker 2: of years. And this other family lived there for like
Speaker 2: eighteen or twenty years. And you know, I wasn't going
Speaker 2: to go try to track these people down wherever there
Speaker 2: were asking them questions. But the girl came with her
Speaker 2: sister and they were really freaked out being in the house,
Speaker 2: and they were telling me all these stories were you know,
Speaker 2: it was a large house, so the dining room was
Speaker 2: probably thirty by thirty or the family room. And how
Speaker 2: the glass in the fireplace shattered in but it flew
Speaker 2: thirty feet across the room to hit the one girl
Speaker 2: in the face. I mean, how does that happen? You know,
Speaker 2: I mean that's a long way and it's not there
Speaker 2: wasn't even a fire there. It's not like the fireplace
Speaker 2: was on. She said that it would get so hot
Speaker 2: that it exploded. It just exploded. And for some reason
Speaker 2: that house, this girl, this sister was tormented more than
Speaker 2: the other sister. And they said that the dad was
Speaker 2: really really tormented that there. When you go up the stairs,
Speaker 2: there's like a big balcony and so if you kind
Speaker 2: of turn around to your left and go backwards. There's
Speaker 2: a big sitting area there and that ended up being
Speaker 2: the hot spot of the house, ironically, But the girls
Speaker 2: said that their dad would sit there on a chair
Speaker 2: there all night long, night after night after night, and
Speaker 2: they just didn't understand what was going on with him.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if they were talking to him
Speaker 2: or he's being posessed or whatever. They didn't tell me
Speaker 2: what ended up happening happening with him. I think he
Speaker 2: died on the steps somehow in that house. But you know,
Speaker 2: they were just talking about all kinds of crazy things
Speaker 2: going on, doors, slamming, cabinets, flying open, food flying across
Speaker 2: the room, you know that shattering, hearing voices, hearing music,
Speaker 2: things of that nature. And I think they probably moved
Speaker 2: moved out, you know, just after a few years and
Speaker 2: sold the house. So but I think when we when
Speaker 2: we when we moved the swimming pool, I think I
Speaker 2: believe that reopened something.
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if it wasn't like some sort of a
Speaker 3: I don't want to say, like a seal, but like
Speaker 3: something broke to work and allow these things out. Now,
Speaker 3: you just need some disturbed something yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think somebody caught it like a lay line or something.
Speaker 2: One time, I don't know. Santa Grace introduced me to
Speaker 2: this woman who clears haunted houses and stuff, and she's
Speaker 2: like Massachusetts or whatever, and she called me one day
Speaker 2: and was asking me questions. She said, she went to
Speaker 2: see this lady doing card readings or something. I don't
Speaker 2: know what she was doing, but she was asking them
Speaker 2: questions about my property, you know, trying to help me.
Speaker 2: And the lady had told her to connect and look
Speaker 2: under the ground for like what you said there like
Speaker 2: like a crack in the earth's core or something. And
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what she did or how
Speaker 2: she did it, but she somehow energetically closed that up.
Speaker 2: It made it a little bit of a difference, you know.
Speaker 2: I noticed a little bit of a difference because she
Speaker 2: didn't tell me when she did it. She she waited
Speaker 2: like ten days and said, hey, how are things going?
Speaker 2: And I told her, I said, you know, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's gotten a smidge and better. But you know,
Speaker 2: it wasn't fixed. But you know, I believe that's what
Speaker 2: it was, because you know it, uh, I mean the
Speaker 2: house wasn't super old. I mean at that point, it
Speaker 2: is probably like thirty five years old at best, so
Speaker 2: you know, it's not like it's built in eighteen ten
Speaker 2: or something, right, But yeah, I think that's I think
Speaker 2: that's what that aspect of it was.
Speaker 3: Well, if you would like to I'm curious now, I'd
Speaker 3: want to know how you've managed to get away from
Speaker 3: all this, and I'm sure the listeners out there would
Speaker 3: like to know too. So if you'd like to let
Speaker 3: us all know how you got to the point where
Speaker 3: you're at today, sure we go into that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, well I did two exorcisms, one with the
Speaker 2: priest and one with this minister guy, and that didn't
Speaker 2: fix anything. But I can tell you this. You know,
Speaker 2: I can go into detail if you want. But the
Speaker 2: stuff you see on TV where they throw the holy
Speaker 2: water on you and it's like it's blistered in your skin,
Speaker 2: that is real. Yeah. There was a depth of pain
Speaker 2: I've never ever experienced going through that. And so the
Speaker 2: medicine woman had said that the house isn't the issue.
Speaker 2: She said, I'm the issue. Until we pull the demon
Speaker 2: out of you, we can't close the portals at the house.
Speaker 2: So basically I went up to Abington Virginia, and we
Speaker 2: did this rebirthing ceremony, and you know, probably in a
Speaker 2: short version of that, dug my own grave laid in
Speaker 2: the grave for eighteen hours and at some point energetically died,
Speaker 2: then was reborn. And when I died, my friends had
Speaker 2: to maintain this sacred fire while this stuff was going on.
Speaker 2: So and Needless stated man, I'm retired marine. I run
Speaker 2: a real estate company. This was so far outside of
Speaker 2: everything in my life I've ever experienced. So but you know,
Speaker 2: I was determined to stay alive. And but my friend
Speaker 2: Dee says, she's seen this horse looking thing come out
Speaker 2: of my grave that had a hoof about seven inches
Speaker 2: across and I had like a the head was this
Speaker 2: demonic thing with horns, and she's like, dude, I mean
Speaker 2: it was huge, walked right past her, right through the
Speaker 2: sacred fire. My German shepherd Kennedy looked horrible. It walked
Speaker 2: through her. So whatever was tormenting her, it took and
Speaker 2: then you know, it left, and you know, it's it's interesting. Lakota,
Speaker 2: the medicine woman said, when the demon leaves one of
Speaker 2: her cows. I don't know how this stuff works, but
Speaker 2: one of the cows volunteered basically to take the demon.
Speaker 2: So she did some prayer, she talked to him, and
Speaker 2: you know, she told the cow, if you were willing
Speaker 2: to do it, I think it was good, like lay
Speaker 2: down next to a fence or something, something something out
Speaker 2: of the ordinary for that animal. And it did so. Basically,
Speaker 2: that animal chose to be a part of this. And
Speaker 2: if you look at the Native American culture and stuff,
Speaker 2: and I'm at a deep level, that's where that this
Speaker 2: medicine comes from. So that demon went to the cow.
Speaker 2: The cow went freaking nuts, ran through the pasture, broke
Speaker 2: through the pasture, and I think at some point the
Speaker 2: cow caught up with something with a bear on the path.
Speaker 2: The demon transferred from the cow to the bear, and
Speaker 2: the bear ran down and ran out in front of
Speaker 2: an eighteen wheeler and got killed instantly. And then the
Speaker 2: cow came back. I'm like, man, I'm not gonna eat
Speaker 2: that cow. If you guys are butchering it, I can
Speaker 2: tell you that it was. It was so bizarre, it
Speaker 2: was so crazy, but it took what was inside of
Speaker 2: me out and you know, that was basic. That was
Speaker 2: you know, there was still some there was another twenty
Speaker 2: one days that I had to wait before she could
Speaker 2: come to the house and fix the house part, and
Speaker 2: that that was really the worst part because I didn't
Speaker 2: know if it was fixed. I had to wait twenty
Speaker 2: one days. And and she came about thirty days or
Speaker 2: so later, and we probably had one hundred hours worth
Speaker 2: of people trying to fix this house. And she walks
Speaker 2: up in there and she sings three songs. I'm like,
Speaker 2: are you kidding me? You're gonna sing? You sing three
Speaker 2: songs and it's done, and she just starts laughing. She said, Wesley,
Speaker 2: because you've already been fixed. This is the easy part.
Speaker 2: And so at that point I waited about ten twelve days.
Speaker 2: I'm in real estate, so I was not going to
Speaker 2: sell the house to somebody until it was fixed. You know,
Speaker 2: when we're going to Brandon, let you and your family
Speaker 2: move in there, and not say something, you know, just
Speaker 2: so I can, you know, get out from a payment.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not doing that. And so when I
Speaker 2: felt the house was cool, and it was clear because
Speaker 2: I looked at the security cameras and there was zero,
Speaker 2: there was nothing, There was no movement, there was no, no, nothing.
Speaker 2: And so we listed and old the house and at
Speaker 2: that point, I would I was just I was pretty traumatized,
Speaker 2: and you know, I would love to say the things
Speaker 2: that were crawling on me stop. That took probably another
Speaker 2: ten months to fully stop. So they crawled on me
Speaker 2: for close to two years. And but one of the things,
Speaker 2: you know, the healers I heard them talking about was
Speaker 2: that they they were reiki trained. Are you familiar with reiki? Yes?
Speaker 2: I am, yeah, So I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 2: I wasn't necessarily looking to take a reiki class, but
Speaker 2: it was it was weird. I kept seeing this attorney's
Speaker 2: office sign and the spelling was almost the same as reiki,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, I'm listening, I'll take the
Speaker 2: freaking reiki class. And It's funny after I took the
Speaker 2: class that I'd never seen that sign again. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I mean, did the attorney move? Was that? Never? There?
Speaker 2: Was I the only one seen it? I don't know.
Speaker 2: But when I took the reiki class, that's when I
Speaker 2: realized I had the ability to help heal people. And
Speaker 2: so as you fast forward over the last handful of years,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a reiki master quantum healer. People come
Speaker 2: to me and I heal them, and you know, we
Speaker 2: talked about that on the podcast. So the podcast goes
Speaker 2: to the whole Haunted House story, but it also has
Speaker 2: a twist to it. It's like, how life happens for you,
Speaker 2: not to you. So you know how all those things
Speaker 2: that happened to me, could I could go into that
Speaker 2: as I was victimized or it happened to me for
Speaker 2: me to grow and become something different. I'm tired of
Speaker 2: being a victim. You know, I was a victim my
Speaker 2: whole life. I was this raped little boy forever and
Speaker 2: you know, I joined the Marine Corps so nobody would
Speaker 2: ever touch me again, and nobody did. But that just
Speaker 2: I wasn't able to heal that aspect until I went
Speaker 2: through this process, and you know, it was on multiple levels,
Speaker 2: just some of the most craziest stuff you've ever experienced
Speaker 2: in your life. But you know, one thing I would
Speaker 2: like to talk about is I met this priest, Father Munford.
Speaker 2: He's a former British Royal Marine here in Virginia Beach.
Speaker 2: So if I'm going to the church, you know it's bad.
Speaker 2: So I'm tracking this guy down and they're like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know this guy could do exorcisms, and I've been
Speaker 2: months and months looking for somebody. So long story short,
Speaker 2: I go see the priest and I tell him how
Speaker 2: you know, how furious I am with God this stuff
Speaker 2: and none of it's real. And he says, come into
Speaker 2: my office. I want to do something. So he says, son,
Speaker 2: I want you to close your eyes and I want
Speaker 2: you to visualize you being about to be abused. He said,
Speaker 2: I want you to go to the point where, I mean,
Speaker 2: right before it gets bad. And I'm just, yeah, dropping
Speaker 2: the F bomb left and the right. I'm crying, I
Speaker 2: got stuff crawling all over me. I'm desperate, suicidal basically,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I was just just it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: He kept asking me if I was on heroin. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm not on heroin. I'll take a piss test if
Speaker 2: you want, you know. And so I'm like, all right, father,
Speaker 2: I'll do that. So I'm sitting there and I visualized
Speaker 2: the room. It was a single story house and it
Speaker 2: was across the street from my home, and they converted
Speaker 2: the garage into a poke room. So you know, there's
Speaker 2: a poker table there, there's liquor bottles there, there's silly
Speaker 2: pictures on the walls.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: It's it's a guy's you know, game room. And so
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there, ten eleven years old, on my hands
Speaker 2: and knees and no clothes on, and he tells me
Speaker 2: to uh. He says, I want you to look for Jesus.
Speaker 2: And I remember being so pissed off. I'm like, are
Speaker 2: you fucking kidding me? Father, And he's like he puts
Speaker 2: his hand on my shoulder. I mean, I'm just I'm
Speaker 2: like coming out of my skin at this point, he says,
Speaker 2: look for him. So I'm looking in my mind, I'm
Speaker 2: looking through the room and there was a picture on
Speaker 2: the wall. You know, they had this one picture of
Speaker 2: the wall where they had stupid dogs around the table
Speaker 2: playing poker and the one dog's got a card in
Speaker 2: his paul handed to the other one. You know that
Speaker 2: that picture's always brought me back to that room. I've
Speaker 2: hated that picture my whole life. I said, yeah, father,
Speaker 2: I see the picture. He says, no, honey, I want
Speaker 2: you to look for him. And I just remember just
Speaker 2: I was just like, ah, you know, I'm just what
Speaker 2: are you talking about? And when I looked over in
Speaker 2: my left shoulder behind me. You could see Jesus and
Speaker 2: I just remember being so shocked and I said, father,
Speaker 2: I see him, see him. And he said, honey, what
Speaker 2: does it. What did he say to you? I said,
Speaker 2: he didn't have to and he goes, why not, I said,
Speaker 2: because he was crying. And that is the day that
Speaker 2: I realized Jesus wasn't there to pull me out of
Speaker 2: the room, Brandon, he was there to love me through
Speaker 2: whatever I was going through. And you know, I thought
Speaker 2: about that and thought about it, and you know, I
Speaker 2: don't think I'm a religious person. I do my healing work.
Speaker 2: I know I work with Jesus, I know I work
Speaker 2: with angels, but I just don't feel like I'm a
Speaker 2: religious person.
Speaker 4: And but that.
Speaker 2: Made sense to me. I mean, you know, I seen him,
Speaker 2: and you know, I can walk with my children every
Speaker 2: day everywhere and I stop and look left and they
Speaker 2: walk and move forward and something happened, or they can
Speaker 2: get sick. You know, you can't save them, but you
Speaker 2: can love them through everything. And that was a huge change,
Speaker 2: switching point in my life. You know, it helped me
Speaker 2: start to heal that little boy, and you know, start
Speaker 2: moving forward, and you know, and forgiving myself. I don't
Speaker 2: know why I felt like I had to forgive him.
Speaker 2: That sounds kind of silly, but I in my mind
Speaker 2: I did. But I still sound silly just to say it.
Speaker 2: But you know, there was this level of forgiveness and
Speaker 2: you know, this broken man that you know, at the time,
Speaker 2: I could do anything one dude, I had a big
Speaker 2: ass house, I had five cars, two boats. I could
Speaker 2: do whatever I wanted except for love myself and be happy.
Speaker 2: And you know, I wanted to share that because I
Speaker 2: know there's probably people on the show that have had
Speaker 2: the same experience. And that's why I hated church so much.
Speaker 2: You know, I dude, I didn't even know Jesus was
Speaker 2: a Jew. I mean, I knew nothing, and I don't
Speaker 2: know much more, but I don't need to know much
Speaker 2: more to do my healing work. But that was that
Speaker 2: That was one of the most beautiful experiences I had,
Speaker 2: and there was many of them, but they were very painful,
Speaker 2: but it was beautiful and it changed everything for me.
Speaker 2: I mean, he loved me so much. He came into
Speaker 2: that vision and showed me him crying why this was happening,
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 3: So now with what you're doing with reiki, how do
Speaker 3: you end up end up like four? When you're reaching
Speaker 3: out with people and people reach out to you to
Speaker 3: communicate with you to try and help them. For anyone listening,
Speaker 3: how would they be able to get a hold of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my website is VB Healer Virginia Beach Healer. I'm
Speaker 2: on Instagram VB Healer. You know my name is Wes
Speaker 2: Coons and my podcast is Enlightening Unknown Life of a
Speaker 2: Spiritual Nomad. So if you want to listen to the
Speaker 2: whole story, and I shared ninety eight percent of the story,
Speaker 2: there are some things that just I just wasn't going
Speaker 2: to share that they did to me. But it's through
Speaker 2: the whole story, and then it goes into you know,
Speaker 2: how life happens, happens for you, not to you when
Speaker 2: we talk about healing work, and so you could find
Speaker 2: me on any of those platforms. And you know, I
Speaker 2: tell people I see energies that no longer serve them.
Speaker 2: So the things that are blocking you from moving forward,
Speaker 2: keeping you from becoming the person that you want to be,
Speaker 2: that's what I see, and I remove that stuff. And
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that I do for people
Speaker 2: is you know, when you leave a relationship, there's that
Speaker 2: sexual energy from that person. It's still inside you and
Speaker 2: you have energetic chord connections to them. You know clearly
Speaker 2: you're not touched during this, but if it's in person
Speaker 2: or remote work, it doesn't matter. We call that energy
Speaker 2: up and we cut it out and remove it so
Speaker 2: you can heal and move fast, move forward quicker, and
Speaker 2: you can get your ex out of your life literally
Speaker 2: because that person, when you have sex with somebody, you
Speaker 2: share part of your soul with them. And you know,
Speaker 2: I know how to go in and help people heal
Speaker 2: from that. And that's the That's the number one thing
Speaker 2: I do. You know I've done that fifteen sixteen hundred
Speaker 2: times easy and over the last couple of years. Now
Speaker 2: it makes life different. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was going to ask, like, how often are you
Speaker 3: being reached out to?
Speaker 2: Every day? Every day? I've got I've got clients in
Speaker 2: eighty seven countries now, so you know you can do
Speaker 2: this work long distance. You don't have to be in
Speaker 2: front of them. I mean, I'm not the one doing
Speaker 2: the work. I channel the Holy Sacred Spirit. Raiki's channeling
Speaker 2: the Holy Sacred Spirit to flow through me to do
Speaker 2: my crown chakra at the top of my head into
Speaker 2: my body into the client. But i also work at
Speaker 2: a quantum level and I've just got some very unique
Speaker 2: gifts in One of the things I have the ability
Speaker 2: to do is ask call angels in and place angels
Speaker 2: with people, and the angels work on them too, So
Speaker 2: you know, I've got I've got a there's an Indian
Speaker 2: culture here in Virginia Beach, and there's I'm very popular
Speaker 2: with them. So when their family comes from India, one
Speaker 2: of the things we do is they bring them right
Speaker 2: from the airport to my office and so, you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes there'll be eight or ten people, you know, every
Speaker 2: eight or ten hours where the healing work being done
Speaker 2: because they want to clear all the energy off of
Speaker 2: them traveling and all that and resetting the energy for
Speaker 2: being appropriate for them on their vacation for being here
Speaker 2: for a couple of months. It's kind of it's funny
Speaker 2: because none of them, there's only one of them, speaks
Speaker 2: English and they just stare at me and let me
Speaker 2: do that work. But they're really nice people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we can probably wrap this up before we do.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I definitely appreciate you coming on
Speaker 3: here and sharing that. Man, Thank you, and I'd like
Speaker 3: for you to let everyone know again where they can
Speaker 3: find your podcasts.
Speaker 2: Sure enlightening and unknown Life of a Spiritual Nomad. You
Speaker 2: can find it most anywhere you Google. It's going to
Speaker 2: show up 's on YouTube. Based on my brain's not
Speaker 2: even working out after talking to this stuff, any of
Speaker 2: the programs that carry podcasts were listed.
Speaker 3: So pretty much anywhere you find Tenfoil Tells you can
Speaker 3: find your podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're on there with you.
Speaker 3: Awesome, Well less, it has been a pleasure talking.
Speaker 2: To you, man, I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you
Speaker 2: for making the time for me and allowing me to
Speaker 2: be on your show. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Not a problem.
Speaker 2: You have a good night you too.
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