WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:46.399 Will you wait, miss. 2 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:19.920 Welcome back, midnight viewers to Anthologies Attack, where we look 3 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:24.519 at anthologies in every media, every genre. And joining me 4 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:28.840 here in the Anthologies Attack Control Room is back from 5 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:33.799 his hiatus in the appilation Wilderness, mister Antonio Lapour. 6 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:38.840 Here you hit that dred on. Happy New Year, too. 7 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:41.439 Happy new to you? Oh my god? We're recording this 8 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:43.719 on New Year's Day. Is our first recording of twenty 9 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:44.319 twenty five. 10 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:48.040 Yes, well, what a way to kick off the new year, 11 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:51.879 which is certainly promising to be a weird one. I 12 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:54.840 think our filmmakers chosen for this week, I think are 13 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:58.519 appropriate to the tone of twenty twenty five, which is 14 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:03.200 it's gonna be filled with wacky characters doing some despicable things, 15 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:05.280 and some of it'll be funny and some of it'll be. 16 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:08.360 Drunk, and all will be surreal. Because the filmmakers you're 17 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:12.800 talking about is the Cohen brothers, Joel and Ethan Cohen. Now, 18 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.960 this is a new Year, new episode of Anthologies Attack. 19 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:18.280 We haven't done one in a little while, and this 20 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:22.120 is technically not an anthology at all, but it is 21 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:25.599 a wind up toward a fantastic anthology by the Coen 22 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:27.759 brothers that'll be coming up soon. That is the the 23 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:30.560 ballad of Buster Scrugs. We're gonna be We'll be covering 24 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:35.120 that in a future episode. But as a primer, a primer, 25 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:40.360 what do you say, I say primer. I keep hearing primer. 26 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:43.120 I think Primmer would have a double m. 27 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:47.400 Wouldn't wouldn't, Bob ros say, now adds a primer here 28 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:50.560 of titanium white and continue long. 29 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:55.639 I'm primer as a primer for ballad Buster Skirks. But 30 00:02:55.800 --> 00:02:57.960 we're taking a look back at a film from ten 31 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:01.360 years ago. This is their look at the folk world, 32 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:04.759 and you know, totally appropriate time wise, given that there 33 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.840 is currently a film out by James Mangold called A 34 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:11.840 Complete Unknown, a biography of Bob Dylan. It takes place 35 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:15.000 from nineteen sixty two to nineteen sixty five. Three characters 36 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:18.639 from that movie appear in this movie. Those characters are 37 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:22.280 Bob Dylan himself, Albert Grossman here Bud Grossman in the 38 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:25.960 film we're talking about, and Dave Van Ronk, who is 39 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:29.919 a giant in the folk music scene from that era. 40 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:34.120 They've based there. They've based a film on Van Runk, 41 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:37.319 but changed a lot of it, so instead we're getting inside. 42 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:43.240 Lewin Davis, what'd you say? 43 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:44.919 You played folk songs? 44 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:47.800 Alkso solo act? 45 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:48.240 Now? 46 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.639 I had a partner threw himself off the George Washington Bridge. 47 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:53.439 George Washington Bridge. 48 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:59.400 You throw yourself off the Brooklyn Bridge traditionally George Washington Bridge. 49 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:00.719 Who does that? 50 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:02.719 If I hand rain. 51 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:05.039 Nose? 52 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:07.719 I fly? 53 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:10.759 Explain the cat? What's its name? 54 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.400 I don't know the gold coins cat. 55 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:15.680 It's slipped out and I don't have the key. 56 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:20.839 My honey fairy. 57 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:26.160 Will don't tell Jim. Obviously I had a man. 58 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:29.120 Stung and tall. 59 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:32.079 He moved his body. 60 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:38.839 Doctor cannon Ball. 61 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:39.680 Well fed the way. No, there was no advance on 62 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.600 my solo record. There's gotta be some royalty. Christ's sake. 63 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:44.519 It's cold out. I don't even have a winter coat. 64 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:46.519 You're kidding me, Ain't this kidd? 65 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:46.839 No? 66 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:49.839 No, I remember one evening. 67 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:52.600 In the porn ray. 68 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:55.399 In my heart? 69 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:58.959 Do you ever think about the future at all? 70 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:00.399 You mean fine? 71 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:05.480 Cause hotels on the moon, Okay. 72 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:06.399 I want you to leave, get out of here. 73 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:09.439 I mean, well, Danny, your uncle's a bad man. 74 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:13.000 Okay, show super. 75 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:21.879 Fine, lashing with living without the one? You know? 76 00:05:23.879 --> 00:05:34.199 Anywhere money, I'm interested in gigging here, Okay, let's hear something. 77 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:35.480 You don't want to hear the record? 78 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:38.560 Why should I hear? Play me something? Play me something? 79 00:05:38.639 --> 00:05:47.519 From Inside Lewin Davis. Is Lewin Davis based on someone? 80 00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:48.279 Or is it? Oh? 81 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:48.839 Yeah? 82 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:49.439 Oh? 83 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:52.240 He is Inside Lewin Davis. Written and directed by Joel 84 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:55.920 and Ethan Cohen, starring Oscar and Carrie Mulligan, John Goodman, 85 00:05:56.000 --> 00:06:00.120 Garrett Headland, f Murray Abraham, Justin Timberlake, Adam Driver. Oh 86 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.240 my god, it just goes on and on. Max Casella, 87 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:07.120 who's great in it? This was released December sixth two thirteen. Yes, 88 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:10.720 to answer your question, Antonio, the Giant I mentioned, Dave 89 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:15.000 van Ronk is the basis for Lewin Davis in this film. 90 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.480 He's lightly based on him in nineteen six where he 91 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:22.759 released an album Inside. Dave van Ronk. The song that 92 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:25.639 Lewin Davis starts the film with, hang Me is a 93 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:27.759 song that he popularized. In fact, a couple of the 94 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:31.360 songs he sings in this Dave Van Ronk was once 95 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:34.319 in the merchant Marines before he became a folk singer, 96 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:38.040 and he stood in the shadow of everyone who towered 97 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:41.199 over him in that scene. In every future music scene 98 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:45.079 becoming kind of a footnote. So no surprise he would 99 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.879 be the member of the folk music scene that the 100 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:51.480 Cohen Brothers would gravitate towards and tell a story with 101 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.920 absolutely no plot at all. What was your first encounter 102 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:56.319 with mister Lewin Davis? 103 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.240 All right, when it came out. I love the Coen Brothers. 104 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:02.920 My my writing and producing partner, Matt Chavrudin and I 105 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:05.879 we often joke are about us being like low rent 106 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:08.879 Cohen bro like, we're like b movie Cohen Brothers. I 107 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:11.560 think they're the best, or at least they're definitely among 108 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:15.639 the best. They're definitely the caretakers of storytellers about interesting 109 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:16.240 white people. 110 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:18.199 But they're definitely. 111 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.480 What's funny, Yeah, I'm gonna take that that joke and 112 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:22.480 go back real quick, and you're like, it's funny? Had 113 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:25.279 I just said that? But then Joel just made the 114 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:30.279 greatest Macbeth since Orson Wells with one and only Denzel Washington. 115 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:31.680 That's gonna eat. 116 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:36.199 My shoes and eat then put a comedy thriller starring 117 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:38.439 two lesbians as their leads, you. 118 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:40.560 Know, And I haven't seen that yet, and it's unlay 119 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:42.920 list of movies to watch I've got that one and 120 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:45.959 Past Lives are my like on my next to watch list. 121 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:47.959 Did they need to get away from each other to 122 00:07:48.040 --> 00:07:49.639 have a non white male lead? 123 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:54.120 I think so, you know, I think so I get together. 124 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:58.680 They've found a niche, so to speak, of doing movies 125 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:02.560 about somewhat likeable losers who are in way over their heads. 126 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:05.160 Like there's generally the plot of their pictures. I mean, 127 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:09.720 whether it's the dude or high or what's the guy's 128 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:12.720 name and no country or old men. Josh Browlin's character 129 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:16.079 is another you know, likable loser in way over his head. 130 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:19.959 The entire cast of Old Brotherware, aren't they the. 131 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:22.480 Old Brotherware out Out, Yes, which is the most lovable 132 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.279 losers in movie history. And Lewin Davis where he's he's 133 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:29.759 not as likable, I guess as their usual protagonist, but 134 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:32.000 he's again just a guy who's kind of been over 135 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:35.440 his head. He's like like he feels like he's just 136 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:37.799 almost good enough to be a folks singer, can't quite 137 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:41.399 get anything. And yeah, that's generally they're the thing. Here's 138 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.559 the thing. This movie doesn't resonate with me a lot, 139 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:45.360 Like I don't super enjoy it. But then at the 140 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:47.919 same time, I super identify it with you know, I'm 141 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:52.840 a struggling artist. Making a living is very very very hard. 142 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:56.559 It's very very stressful, and it's very very difficult to 143 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:59.720 maintain that level of artistic integrity and you're still trying 144 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:02.639 to make living and trying to balance both. It's hard. 145 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:05.000 So like, as I'm watching this, my heart breaks for 146 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:06.840 this guy because I've been through a lot of this stuff. 147 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:10.240 Now brands that I've never misappropriated a cat, never knocked 148 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:13.399 up a lady and acted like an asshole, you know, 149 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.840 like I've never I've joined the merger of marines or 150 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.440 been addicted to it my dad, you know, make him 151 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:21.080 swail himself. I play at the horror song. 152 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:23.440 I understand that. 153 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:26.120 The difficulty that the artist life is, and this movie 154 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:28.679 really kind of encompasses. I'm watching it again. The ladies 155 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:30.720 eat a hell? Is that the whole point the way 156 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.519 cycle their nature? Like where he starts with the devil 157 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:35.639 and ends with the devil, almost, you know, like a 158 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:37.720 record going around and round. You know. 159 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:40.320 The Coen Brothers are often riffing on a theme from 160 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:43.519 movie to movie, and you'll see echoes from one to 161 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.000 the other. This certainly reminds me. 162 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:46.879 Of a serious man. 163 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:51.720 Yeah, as far as that sort of the biblical connotations 164 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:55.000 to it, it also reminds me very much of O Brother, 165 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:58.240 Where art thou in that it is a quest movie, 166 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:02.000 where in this case it's a quest for him to, 167 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:05.159 I don't know, find some sort of meaning and reason 168 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:08.799 to continue on as an artist in this you know, 169 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:11.639 burned out world. In fact, like gonna be a Barton Fink, 170 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:15.639 and definitely Barton Fink. This seems like, in some ways 171 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:19.120 a lighter version of Barton Fink. Yeah. You know, they 172 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:23.159 come again and again to creative types and they're always tortured, 173 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:28.759 sometimes at their own hands like Barton, and sometimes because 174 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:32.480 they just can't relate to anyone in humanity, like like 175 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:34.080 Lewin Davis here, I. 176 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:38.240 Wrote a paper in college of Barton Fink, maybe years 177 00:10:38.240 --> 00:10:41.519 and years and years ago, and it was examining Barton 178 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:44.879 think like a retelling of job before they actually did 179 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.240 job with serious man. But it was you know, and 180 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.799 again it was another allegory a hell too. It's like 181 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:54.200 it was the artist hell, you know, like he's this 182 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:56.720 struggling writer and now he's in hell. I think the 183 00:10:56.840 --> 00:10:58.840 job thing, you know, it's like twenty two or something 184 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:02.399 thing that like, he had everything in New York and 185 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:05.399 it was taken away from him, and now he's trying 186 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:08.679 to find himself again with nothing. Even though he's in 187 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:11.159 this you know, he's a Hollywood an, money and this stuff, 188 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:13.840 but he doesn't have that integrity anyway. 189 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.200 Is that what that movie is about? I always think 190 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:19.360 Barton has zero integrity. I think what he's producing in 191 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:22.399 New York is bullshit, and I think he's lucky to 192 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:25.759 get to get it. And once he gets there, he 193 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:28.600 thinks he's made a masterpiece. And all he's redone is 194 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:32.440 retype his New York play that was bullshit at the beginning. 195 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:34.320 You know whose head is in our box? 196 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:34.519 His? 197 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:37.080 Oh yeah, I gotta watch it again. 198 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.279 I to watch it, I know, man, every time I 199 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.320 start talking about it to Colin Brothers movie, the next 200 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:44.399 step is to rewatch it. So the plot here as 201 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:46.960 it is, finds our protagonist Lewin Damis, who is a 202 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:51.120 struggling folks singer in New York's Greenwich village. He is CouchSurfing, 203 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:53.080 He's homeless. I never really thought of it. This is 204 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:54.960 like maybe the sixth or seventh time I've seen the 205 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:57.480 movie rewatched it today and realized that he's basically a 206 00:11:57.480 --> 00:11:58.200 homeless person. 207 00:11:58.320 --> 00:11:59.120 Yeah, he's hollless. 208 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:03.840 He's just on people's couches. I think we've all been there, particularly, 209 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:06.679 as you said, if you're pursuing a more artistic lifestyle 210 00:12:06.759 --> 00:12:09.399 or not the nine to five, button down thing, which 211 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:13.879 this movie is a. I won't say it's praising this lifestyle, 212 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:17.279 because it is not. It is showing how difficult and horrible. Yeah, 213 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:21.960 an artist's path is how you're willing to forfeit every 214 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:26.240 creature comfort to exist, as Lewyn Davis calls it at 215 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:28.440 one point, which is her sisters like, is that what 216 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.000 we're doing outside of showbiz, all of us, which just existing? 217 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:34.360 It's not so bad, No, you're It's exactly it. And 218 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:36.360 what I guess there It bugs me because is I 219 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:38.759 try to I suffer like that I have to like 220 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:41.360 give up a lot of creature comforts just to be 221 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.720 able to exist as a filmmaker, you know, and the 222 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:45.840 idea that like, you know, only done a full time 223 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:48.519 job and then trying to run my little movie company 224 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:51.440 and edit something this and endit something that, and then 225 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:55.159 put out the marketing for it and then manage film 226 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.519 festivals for it and then do this and do that. 227 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:00.720 It's not easy. It's a full time job in and 228 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:02.399 of itself, with little perks. 229 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:05.559 We take Lewin Davis here, who is not necessarily and 230 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:08.480 also ran but maybe it never was, though he is 231 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:13.080 well regarded within the folk community, and the film basically 232 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:18.399 without a plot, follows him grasping in every direction at 233 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:22.279 validation that he should keep going as a musician, and 234 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:26.279 in virtually every avenue he takes tells him to stop. 235 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:29.919 This is all sort of hung around the sort of 236 00:13:30.039 --> 00:13:34.200 running not gag necessarily, but a subplot in this plotless 237 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:37.759 film is that he has accidentally one of the couches 238 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:40.039 he's surfing on is the Gore Finds, who are a 239 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:45.519 couple of college educator intellectuals, and he's slept on their 240 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:49.960 couch one night, and on leaving lot left their cat out, 241 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:53.799 this little orange tabby, and he's now he has to 242 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.559 basically squire this cat around for the rest of the movie, 243 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:58.559 and sometimes it is the cat, and maybe it isn't, 244 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:02.200 and the cat maybe represents something and maybe represents something else. Entirely, 245 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:06.000 we're watching him basically come to the conclusion of whether 246 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:08.039 or not he should just give up this whole life. 247 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:11.399 There's a cat per act. Basically, there's the three cats 248 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:13.960 you know, and then the original cat shows up a 249 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:16.960 game at the end, But then so does you know 250 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.159 the guy who beats him up, and then you know 251 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:22.159 him waking on the couch. So it's like the cyclical 252 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:25.279 nature of the movie, like his never ending cycle of 253 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:27.679 being Lewin Davis and not quite getting there. 254 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.679 And a word about the cat. Now this orange tabby 255 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:35.440 now recently, just recently, but I lost my cat van 256 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:39.240 mister van Go, who was an orange Tabby and bore 257 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:43.559 a remarkable resemblance to the cat in this one, including 258 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.480 the sort of sleepy hooded eyes of the hero cat here, 259 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:50.559 whose name I don't know and I should I'll find out. No, 260 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:53.600 the cat the characters of the cat is named Ulysses, 261 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:55.679 but I don't know the cat actor's actual name. 262 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:57.159 Oh no, I don't know the cat actor. 263 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:00.399 There are several because you can tell almost immediately the 264 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:02.559 one on the train is not the one who wakes 265 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:05.879 him up, right, that's just a continuity era because the 266 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.080 one that enclose up when he meets that he meets 267 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:09.879 in the apartment building is one of the most adorable 268 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:12.039 cats of all the time. Anyway, point is about this 269 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:16.240 cat without getting into its implications thematically and otherwise. The 270 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:20.159 sequence of Lewin Davis leaving the apartment realizing he's now 271 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.200 let this cat out and he's going to have to 272 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:25.759 carry this cat with him on his journeys. While going 273 00:15:25.799 --> 00:15:28.600 through the subway, He's sitting on the subwit this sequence. 274 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:32.320 I could watch this scene over and over, Antonio. In fact, 275 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:34.759 I have on occasion put this movie on just to 276 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:37.480 watch this sequence and then turn it off. The cat's 277 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:41.320 fascination looking out the window as the different trains are 278 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:44.360 rolling by, there are two black children sitting in the 279 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:46.879 corner who are delighted that this man, this crazy man, 280 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:49.440 is sitting in the train with an orange cat. There's 281 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:51.639 a businessman who's like looking at the whole thing, A 282 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:54.960 scants I don't know. And the song playing, which is 283 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:59.159 Lewin Davis. Our lead character is a solo folk artist, 284 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:02.000 but he had my old success as a duo, we 285 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:05.440 find out, and that was his partner Mike, who we 286 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:07.080 come to find out is committed suicide. 287 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:21.840 Fine No I fare the river to the one Oh. 288 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:20.600 Fair, the way. 289 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:24.759 Honey Fair. 290 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:30.120 We get that song a couple of times in this movie, 291 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:31.799 and this becomes a runner in the film. And I 292 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:33.879 noticed that they do this a lot, where they will 293 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.440 pick a song if their movie is musically oriented and 294 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:40.679 run with that like I'm a man of constant sorrow obviously, 295 00:16:40.759 --> 00:16:43.399 and or brother we aren't there. But Lady Killer also 296 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:47.039 has a couple of tunes that recur over and over again. 297 00:16:47.320 --> 00:16:49.679 Here it's this one, and we'll get a little bit 298 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.000 more into the music of it later, But the sound 299 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:55.039 of that song playing and the visials of that cat 300 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:59.480 in nineteen sixty one New York, gritty, grimy New York, 301 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.320 it's just delightful to me. 302 00:17:01.440 --> 00:17:01.559 Am. 303 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:03.600 I just waxing raps on. It might be we can 304 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:05.759 get into the nuts and boll movie, but I'm telling you, 305 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:08.240 there are parts of this movie that I fucking adore. 306 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:10.720 Yeah, and I agree with you too. There's a lot 307 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:15.160 to really like the cinematography. It's clearly not Deacons as 308 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.480 the usual collaborator. And when you say dark and gritty 309 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:22.079 New York of nineteen sixty one or whatever, that's really 310 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:25.920 evident because Deacon's stuff is usually never that desaturated, although 311 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:28.680 like he'll manage to do something make it disaturated and 312 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:29.680 still make it a little a color. 313 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:31.680 This is their first digital film? 314 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:33.599 Is this their first digital one? It is? 315 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:37.559 Okay, you can why Deacons was not It was not involved, 316 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:39.599 though I think it's worked with them again. 317 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:42.119 Sense no Deacon shoots digital now though. 318 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:43.079 Yeah, no, no, no, I know. 319 00:17:43.240 --> 00:17:46.519 Yeah, and it does it Yeah, no, I think it 320 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:49.279 was a statially thick. But but there's a different look 321 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:51.720 to to this than there are other films. It definitely 322 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:55.079 feels different than their underwork and you can really like 323 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:56.960 a stick and. 324 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.640 Yeah, definitely the cinematography, but the setting really goes a 325 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:04.839 long way, because you know, we've seen New York portrayed 326 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:07.319 in all of its decades and all of its guys. 327 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.200 Is one thing they did very wisely was sent this 328 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:14.960 in winter, but that winter bordering on spring. So yes, 329 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:17.559 there's snow on the ground, but not a ton, just 330 00:18:17.680 --> 00:18:20.519 enough to be annoying, just enough to get across the 331 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:23.680 idea that you're in a hostile environment, just enough that 332 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:26.599 all the sand and grit and all the stuff that 333 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.680 they use to dissolve that snow is piled up. It 334 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:32.079 feels grimy and oily. 335 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.559 Yeah, it does. It feels dirty, and it feels definitely 336 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:39.599 feels libd in you know, doesn't feel friendly, which is weird. 337 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:43.920 Vida folk music is so you know, folky and warm 338 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:47.599 and cozy, and why that New York is not. It's 339 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.720 interesting how that sound comes out of that world. 340 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:54.000 And I do encourage everyone to watch A Complete Unknown 341 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:56.519 as a companion piece to this film, because a lot 342 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:58.200 of these same locations, like I said, and a lot 343 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:00.880 of these same characters. Dave van Rocket is character in 344 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.359 A Complete Unknown. Albert Grossman, who is the f Murray 345 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:07.160 Abraham character. Bud Grossman in this film was a major 346 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:09.599 player in the folk music scene and the recording of 347 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:11.920 folk music and putting it out. So you know, a 348 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:14.200 lot of these same sort of things recur in it. 349 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:21.319 But watching the movie, like these coffee houses and basket 350 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:24.039 houses through Dylan's eyes, who sort of shows up as 351 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:27.440 a conquering hero versus somebody who's been fighting in the 352 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.440 trenches this whole time, is very illuminating. 353 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:34.519 I haven't got a chance to watch it. Is it good? 354 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:36.759 I think it might be the best movie I saw 355 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:37.319 last year. 356 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.400 Oh wow, that's a bold statement. All right, then I'll 357 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:42.480 keep an eye out for it. 358 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:46.799 Yeah. It bumps up against kneecap that Irish rap movie 359 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:50.039 that I just adore too much. But both musical films 360 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:51.440 this year sort of did it for me. 361 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:54.400 Well, there you go. You know when they get Timberlake 362 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:58.839 plays she plays gym, right, Yeah, there's something about Timberlake's 363 00:19:58.839 --> 00:19:59.920 beard is so funny in that. 364 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:02.920 He looks letter perfect. I mean, he looks like he 365 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:06.039 should be in the A Complete Unknown movie. He's so squeaky. 366 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:10.519 Yeah, Like, it's hilarious. And I like Carrie Mulligan. 367 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:13.880 You know, here's the thing about Carrie Mulligan. If I'm 368 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:16.759 being totally honest, every time I see her in a 369 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.119 movie and not realizing it's Carrie Mulligan for a moment, 370 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:23.079 I think, oh my god, Michelle Williams is in this movie. 371 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:27.119 I'm so excited, ha ha ha, And then it's Carrie 372 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:29.519 Mulligan and no offense to her. She seems like a 373 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:32.480 lovely performer and you know she can. She does it. 374 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:33.400 She's okay. 375 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:35.759 But you know, I like her. 376 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:39.079 There aren't many like her. There aren't many performances in 377 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:41.000 Coen Brothers movies that I can point to in a 378 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:43.400 scene and go like, eh, that's a bit iffy. Her 379 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:46.960 delivery of asshole here is a little too something. 380 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:49.000 Yeah, Yeah, you ain't got a point there. 381 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:52.400 It's like when yeah, she can't get her mouth around 382 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:54.079 Cohen Brother's dialogue. 383 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:56.640 It might be a little much for her. Yeah, maybe. 384 00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:59.599 I like Jaron Gatsby. That movie's kind of a message, 385 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:01.359 really pretty you'll look at and I like hearing it. 386 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:04.640 I heard it's great young seen it great Gatsby. Never 387 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:10.039 mind moving on. Yeah, Garry Mugan or a Jim and Jane, 388 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:13.359 they're they're at this, like I said, the squeaky clean 389 00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:16.319 folk couple. They might be brother and sister for all 390 00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:17.480 we know. I mean, they're not. 391 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:18.799 They're right, they're. 392 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:22.440 Clearly husband and wife. But but for to the outside world, 393 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:24.200 if you saw them on an album cover, you would 394 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:28.160 be confused. And yeah, absolutely, And so now they represent 395 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:33.079 an avenue of an artistic path that he could be 396 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:36.400 going down. Like that, each of the characters he encounters 397 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:39.359 are basically like another way to make it in the 398 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:44.880 music industry, whether you know whatever that means actually making it. 399 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:47.960 And they seem like a couple who have integrity. They're 400 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:50.559 singing the old folk songs there people are in love 401 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:54.400