1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets. 2 00:00:09,839 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: It's all behaved with Arden Moore, this show that teaches 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,240 you how to have harmony in the household with your pets. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,879 Join Ardina as she travels coast to coast to help 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,039 millions better understand why cats and dogs do what they do. 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,280 Get that latest scoop on famous faces, they're perfectly pampered pets, 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,679 and who's walking goo and rent in Tinseltown? From famous 8 00:00:28,679 --> 00:00:31,839 pet experts and best selling authors to television and movie stars. 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,920 You'll get the latest buzz from Wagging Tongues and Tails Garner, 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,719 great pet tips and have a dog one fer flying 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,000 fun time. So get ready for the paws and applause 12 00:00:41,079 --> 00:00:46,000 as we unleaseh your oh Behave host America's pet edutainer. 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: Arden Moore. 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Old Behave show on Pet Life Radio. 15 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:55,479 I'm your host, Arden Moore. Hey, what do you do 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,520 after a successful careers of veterinary neurologist? You become an 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:05,319 advocate for wildlife. You become a master storyteller to inspire 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,719 our youngest generation. Guess what You're about to meet a 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,079 remarkable human being who just may inspire you as well. 20 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:19,920 Please Welcome to our show, Doctor Rick Lecouteur. We're going 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,280 to find out what is the story behind his latest book. 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:29,000 It is called Nasty Names Are Hurtful. An Australian white 23 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,560 Ibis responds to name calling in the city, curious as 24 00:01:33,599 --> 00:01:36,280 maybe an ibis. We're going to find out. So, everybody 25 00:01:36,359 --> 00:01:39,840 you know the drill, Sit, stay, We'll be right back. 26 00:01:42,359 --> 00:01:47,159 Speaker 2: Time for a pause for very ones. Actually sit and stay, 27 00:01:47,519 --> 00:01:49,159 all behave, We'll be right back. 28 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: Take a bite out of your competition. Advertise your business 29 00:01:56,439 --> 00:01:59,599 with an ad in Petlife Radio podcast and radio shows. 30 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:02,640 There is no other pet related media that is as 31 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,799 large and reaches more pet parents and pet lovers than 32 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,800 pet Life Radio with over seven million monthly listeners. 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Now back to your fetching host, 42 00:02:48,479 --> 00:02:51,280 America's pet ed You, Jiner arden More. 43 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:54,319 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the old Behave show on pet Life Radio. 44 00:02:54,439 --> 00:02:57,159 I'm your host Ardenmore. I've been looking forward to having 45 00:02:57,159 --> 00:03:01,280 this special guest on our show. He is doctor Rick Lacouteur. 46 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,439 He has a lot of things after his name, and 47 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,080 he's been a veterinary neurologist. That just hurts my brain 48 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:13,039 saying it. He is a major wildlife advocate. He loves 49 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:16,759 kids and he wants our next generation to know how 50 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,759 to care for the animals in wildlife on our planet. 51 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,479 And he has a French name, and he's in Australia, 52 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,000 doctor Rick Coutur. So glad you're on our show. 53 00:03:27,159 --> 00:03:30,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, Auden. I'm actually Australian, but I'm actually 54 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,319 speaking to you today from my home in California, so 55 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:37,240 oh where I'm still in the town where the University 56 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,199 of California at Davis is. 57 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,159 Speaker 1: Located, big, big veterinary school. 58 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,879 Speaker 3: Yes, and I retired as a prof emeritus. I am 59 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,560 now from there in twenty fifteen. 60 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Well, that's one of the best veterinary schools in the 61 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,080 United States, and I lived in Oceanside for fifteen years, 62 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,039 so I love California. You know there's a lot we 63 00:03:57,039 --> 00:03:59,280 can dive in, but I want to get right to it. 64 00:03:59,319 --> 00:04:03,759 You right, books, But your audience lately has been for kids. Correct. 65 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,159 Speaker 3: Correct. Yes. After retirement from a career as a neurologist, 66 00:04:09,199 --> 00:04:13,280 as you said, and a neurosurgeon and doing research into 67 00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:17,959 brain tumors in both humans and animals, and being an 68 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:22,959 enthusiastic teacher, one might say I loved teaching. I retired 69 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,279 because it was time and spent more time with my 70 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,240 grandchildren and read to them. And I wanted them to 71 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,600 become advocates for the environment and biodiversity and wildlife, and 72 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,680 so I looked for books to read to them. And 73 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:44,000 I could find lots of whimsical and fantastical books for 74 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,079 seven and eight year olds, but nothing that really captured 75 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,879 the true aspects of or the authentic aspects realistic aspects 76 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:56,560 of the environment and the animals on our planet. So 77 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,519 I looked and looked. I found a few, but I 78 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,079 decided I'd write my own books for them. I've since retirement, 79 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,600 I've been very active in a wildlife expedition company and 80 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:13,240 have taken up photography as a major pastime, and so 81 00:05:13,319 --> 00:05:15,839 I put all these things together and produced books for 82 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:20,759 my grandkids. And from there some people saw them in 83 00:05:21,639 --> 00:05:25,319 my daughter's homes and said can I have one? And 84 00:05:25,399 --> 00:05:31,399 so from there it's ballooned. And now I consider myself 85 00:05:31,519 --> 00:05:36,040 and aspiring children's picture book author and illustrator. 86 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: I would beg to differ. You are an illustrator and 87 00:05:39,959 --> 00:05:42,639 an author for children. I mean, let's just go through 88 00:05:42,639 --> 00:05:45,720 some titles I believe you have put out on Amazon 89 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:48,839 dot com. You can find them everyone, and they're all 90 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:51,240 with the twenty twenty four Did you write three books 91 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,160 in twenty twenty four? 92 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:52,959 Speaker 3: I did. 93 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you have strong typing fingers. So let 94 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,480 me just go through it. Okay. One of them, everyone 95 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,759 is about a It's called Norman Wants to Fly. And 96 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,040 this is tell us who Norman is. 97 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:11,199 Speaker 3: Norman's a flightless cormorant. There are many species of cormorant 98 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,360 seabirds in the world, and only one is flightless, and 99 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:19,319 that is the flightless cormorant of the Galapagus Islands. Oh, 100 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,959 and he evolved and his wings became smaller and smaller, 101 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,920 and his feet became bigger. And bigger because he swims 102 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,920 for his meals and he didn't need to fly, and 103 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,160 because there are no predators in the Galapagos other than 104 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:41,560 those introduced by people. He thrived there and he lost 105 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,920 the ability to fly. And this is a book about 106 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,279 a young flightless cormorant who sees other birds flying and 107 00:06:48,399 --> 00:06:51,720 wants to do the same. And the message of the 108 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:55,680 book for the kids is that he discovers that he's 109 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,519 a great swimmer. Everybody tells him so, and he's happy 110 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,680 with who he is, which. 111 00:07:01,439 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: Is very very important. I mean, I'm five foot one 112 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,600 and a half with a very toll phone voice, but 113 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,800 I know I don't think I would have a career 114 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:11,800 in the w NBA. Do you think so? 115 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,399 Speaker 3: I think, having looked at many things that you've done 116 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:18,759 out and I think you could do whatever you set 117 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,439 your mind to. So I'm not going to enter into 118 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,240 that discussion. 119 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,279 Speaker 1: But the point for the kids is focus on your attributes, 120 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,439 not the wannabes. 121 00:07:29,519 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: Correct be yourself and yeah, I like, celebrate, celebrate in 122 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,279 who you are and what you are, and don't try 123 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:40,959 to be somebody else. Be yourself and you'll find that's 124 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,759 more than enough in this life. 125 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Well, then we go to book number two in this year, 126 00:07:45,959 --> 00:07:50,959 and this one is about a curious penguin. Everybody. Of course, 127 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,720 the penguin's name is Johnny, and it is called Penguin 128 00:07:54,959 --> 00:07:59,199 pen Pals. There's your alliteration. A charming story of diversity, 129 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,800 except and friendship. So tell everybody a little bit about Johnny. 130 00:08:04,079 --> 00:08:06,959 Speaker 3: Well, you know, penguins are very popular in kids' books, 131 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,160 and it was actually a Penguin book that I was 132 00:08:10,199 --> 00:08:13,360 reading to my grandchildren that said I really need to 133 00:08:13,399 --> 00:08:17,839 add to the children's literature that they're exposed to, because 134 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,720 I was reading a book about a penguin who lived 135 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:26,199 in a house, drove a car, went to school, and 136 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:28,360 when I got to the page where the penguin was 137 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:35,200 eating pizza, I finally realized that this, while a whimsy, 138 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:39,240 was great and kids need humor and whimsy in their lives. 139 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,559 But I couldn't find the balance to that in any 140 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,200 Penguin book other than ones that had photographs and weren't 141 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,399 really much fun, although they contained the information. So I'm 142 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,559 aiming for that middle ground between the whimsy and the actual, 143 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,039 and so it's an authentic approach. And all of my 144 00:08:59,399 --> 00:09:04,240 illustration are taken from are derived from photographs that I've taken, 145 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,480 and of course they don't look like photographs. They look 146 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,840 like regular children's book illustrations, but they're all actual habitats 147 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,600 and animals. And so in this penguin book, it's a 148 00:09:16,639 --> 00:09:22,320 story about three penguins who become pen pals and decide 149 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,600 through their communications that they must all be identical because 150 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,960 they're all black and white. They swim in the ocean, 151 00:09:29,399 --> 00:09:33,720 they eat krill, and they have the same predators that 152 00:09:34,039 --> 00:09:37,559 chase them, like seals, and so on. 153 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,279 Speaker 1: Where are they located? You said they're pen pals, these penguins, 154 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,120 So what bodies of water are they based? 155 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: They're located in the antarctica, at the very bottom of 156 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,519 the world, where most of the penguins are. That's their habitat, 157 00:09:51,879 --> 00:09:55,120 and so the book depicts them in their natural habitat. 158 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,120 And so they all decide to meet one day, and 159 00:09:58,159 --> 00:10:01,200 they get together and they think the others haven't arrived 160 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,120 because they all look a little bit different, and they're 161 00:10:04,159 --> 00:10:06,720 all expecting to look the same. So they start to 162 00:10:06,759 --> 00:10:09,840 walk away and one yells out the other's names, and 163 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:12,559 they all turn around. They're slightly different. 164 00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:14,039 Speaker 1: This is really powerful. 165 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,279 Speaker 3: One is an adeli, one is a chin strap and 166 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,960 one is a gentoo, three species of penguins, And so 167 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,720 they are looking at one another and one of them says, 168 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:28,639 we're different. We can't be friends anymore. Oh no, And 169 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,039 they start to walk away from one another, and then 170 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,559 one says, wait, we already are friends. They turn around 171 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,679 and they walk off arm in arm or flipper and 172 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,279 flipper into the distance. 173 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:41,759 Speaker 1: And they didn't celebrate with pizza, right. 174 00:10:41,919 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, No, celebrate with a little krill meal. And 175 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:52,159 so the message is obvious in that one for the 176 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:57,679 kids that different different species of birds, just as people 177 00:10:57,759 --> 00:11:01,639 who are very different in different way ways should be 178 00:11:01,799 --> 00:11:05,600 tolerant and get on well together. And it's actually what's 179 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:09,279 inside that counts. And so that's the message with that one, 180 00:11:09,759 --> 00:11:13,519 and the kids learn a little bit about penguins and antarctica. 181 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,759 I have fact sections in the back of my books 182 00:11:16,799 --> 00:11:22,159 for the readers, the parents, and the carers and the 183 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,840 teachers to read so that they can answer the questions. 184 00:11:26,159 --> 00:11:29,639 And I encourage the parents to read these books with 185 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,600 their kids. Yes, and if they don't know the answer 186 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,879 to the kids questioned, to demonstrate to the kid how 187 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:37,480 you can look at the back of the book and 188 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,799 find out an answer. There's always an answer, Arden, as 189 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,320 you well know from your background, and it's just a 190 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,519 matter of are you too lazy to look for it? 191 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:49,759 And these days it's so easy to find answers. So 192 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,039 that's all about penguins. I think it's a unique Penguin 193 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,519 book in the sense that it's authentic in its habitat 194 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,799 and its depiction of these animals. 195 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, we're speaking with doctor Rick la Couteur. You 196 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,200 got to get that French in there. He's from Australia, 197 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:10,480 but he's talking to us from California. So he's a glober. 198 00:12:10,639 --> 00:12:13,639 He likes to get around. He has done amazing things 199 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:16,320 in his life. He loves kids. He's got great How 200 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,480 many grandkids do you have? 201 00:12:17,879 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: I have four, two daughters, each with a boy and 202 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,039 a girl, so it's a matching. It's a very symmetrical situation, 203 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,759 and I love them. I've learned so much about life 204 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,120 from being with those children. I can't tell you they've 205 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:34,440 taught me so so much. 206 00:12:34,799 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to dive in a little bit about 207 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,759 his contribution to our globe, to our next generation after 208 00:12:40,759 --> 00:12:44,120 we take this quick break, So sid stay, we'll be right. 209 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: Back, time for a walk on the red carpet. 210 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: Of course, all behave. We'll be backing up lash right 211 00:12:53,759 --> 00:12:59,240 after these messages we were for and we're damn proud 212 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:02,679 of it. Chance our four legs and our tail and 213 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,480 we go to the bathroom outside. 214 00:13:04,799 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: Well, we may not be too proud of that. Let's 215 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,799 sniff around, Ben, mark your spot right here. 216 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:18,639 Speaker 2: Pet Life Radio, Let's talk pets, Let's talk past, Let's 217 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,840 done Pets Talk Radio, Headline Radio, Petlight Radio dot Com. 218 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,759 Speaker 4: Hi, this is Lily Tomlin and I invite you to 219 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:29,919 listen to the Old Behave Show with Arden Moore on 220 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,879 pet Life Radio. 221 00:13:34,159 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 2: We're back from the lot. Just check the paper and 222 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,559 we had our record showing at the box, the letterbox 223 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,879 that is now back to Oh Behave. 224 00:13:42,159 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: Here's Arden, Welcome back to the Old Behave Show on 225 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,120 pet Life Radio. I'm your host, Arden Moore. I gotta 226 00:13:48,159 --> 00:13:50,360 say We've been on the air since O seven and 227 00:13:50,519 --> 00:13:54,000 this has been one of the most charming, delightful, amazing 228 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,320 guests I've ever had. And he is doctor Rick Coutour 229 00:13:58,039 --> 00:14:01,000 and he does a lot. I mean check him out, man. 230 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,960 He was a veterinary neurologist that just makes my brain hurt. 231 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,679 He's been a champion since his kid days in Australia 232 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,159 for wildlife. He's an amazing photographer and he is an 233 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,759 amazing writer, and he has decided I'm going to focus 234 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,480 on our next youngest generation and get them inspired with 235 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:22,960 you say a little bit of whimsy in the story 236 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,600 and some facts. So your latest book just out, the 237 00:14:26,679 --> 00:14:29,960 third book he's written, Everybody in twenty twenty four. I 238 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,559 love this title because I think it's important. Nasty names 239 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:39,720 are hurtful. Subtitle An Australian White ibis responds to name 240 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:43,679 calling in the city. And this is about an ibis 241 00:14:44,039 --> 00:14:46,279 named Henny. Is that correct, Doctor Rick? 242 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: That's correct. In my third book, I realized that my 243 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:54,000 major protagonists in the first two books had both been males, 244 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:59,159 and so I'm going to correct that balance with the 245 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,039 next book because my major protagonist will be another female. 246 00:15:03,159 --> 00:15:09,200 And so, yeah, this ibis in this book is is 247 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,360 Penny a female? 248 00:15:10,919 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: So tell us about her situation. 249 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,799 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I'd like to say, don't be 250 00:15:15,879 --> 00:15:18,799 scared off by the fact that it's an Australian bird. 251 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:23,240 It's just happens to live in Australia. But it could 252 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,720 be a bird anywhere, and the ibis, of course, was 253 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,039 worshiped in ancient Egypt. They used to walk around the 254 00:15:30,039 --> 00:15:32,559 streets and if you look in the pyramids and the 255 00:15:32,559 --> 00:15:36,000 tombs there are hieroglyphs of ibis on the walls. A 256 00:15:36,159 --> 00:15:40,600 very revered bird. And it was actually in Australia long 257 00:15:40,679 --> 00:15:44,919 before any people came. The Aboriginals arrived there and they 258 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,080 worshiped the ibis. 259 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,399 Speaker 1: Also, why do you think that is? What is it 260 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,320 about the ibis? 261 00:15:49,519 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: It's a very regal looking bird. It stands up straight, 262 00:15:53,799 --> 00:15:57,720 it's got this huge long beak, and it's I think 263 00:15:57,759 --> 00:16:00,279 the word I would use to describe if you'd take 264 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,840 time to watch them. It's an elegant bird. 265 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,919 Speaker 1: I lived in South Florida for many years and going 266 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,720 to the Everglades and seeing the ibis, they're very majestic. 267 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: I think that's another great word for them. And so 268 00:16:13,879 --> 00:16:17,080 when people came to Australia that look a little bit 269 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,039 like you and me, they dried up the wetlands and 270 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,799 they introduced agriculture, and the ibis almost went extinct except 271 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,759 for the zoos. And so the zoo's had a few pairs. 272 00:16:29,159 --> 00:16:33,840 Long stories short, they escaped from the zoo in Sydney, Australia, 273 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,120 and no one could find them. 274 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Were they in the IBIS Witness Protection program? 275 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: Well, almost the equivalent to the IBIS Witness Protection Program. 276 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,480 Very closely you'll see the similarities. So what happened was 277 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:52,320 they couldn't find them, and some months or years I 278 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,480 think later, they discovered them in a city park and 279 00:16:56,559 --> 00:17:01,320 they had reproduced like nobody's business. They made the environment 280 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:06,119 their own. They are truly environmental refugees. That's my favorite 281 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,880 term for them. And so they've thrived in the parks 282 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,559 in the big cities all over Australia and from there. 283 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,519 It's really interesting because people started to resent them because 284 00:17:19,559 --> 00:17:24,960 they would always be present, harassing people at picnics, and well. 285 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: Did you call them picnic pirates? 286 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: I was going to say, And Australians developed all these 287 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:35,400 derogatory names for them, picnic pirates. Bin chicken are bin 288 00:17:35,519 --> 00:17:39,319 in Australia is a trash can here, so bin chickens, 289 00:17:39,799 --> 00:17:44,319 dumpster divers, they had horror there are dozens of names, 290 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,839 and the kids would chase them and throw rocks at them, 291 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,880 and they were much maligned and derided in the society. However, 292 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:56,200 they don't deserve that. No. Plus the viners they're resilient 293 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,960 and so they they would not eat trash if humans 294 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,200 didn't provide them with the trash to eat. So there 295 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,960 is an instruction up at the end of the book 296 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,200 that helps kids what can you do for the ibis? 297 00:18:09,279 --> 00:18:11,119 And one of the things is put the lid on 298 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,640 the trash can number two, don't throw a liter and 299 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,960 so on. So the message there's a message there too. 300 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,160 But this bird is truly magnificent. Just to tell you 301 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,799 one thing arden about this bird. It has a beak 302 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,880 or a bill that's four or five inches long, and 303 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,680 in the end of that beak there's a little sensory organ, 304 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,640 a little vibratory organ that can sense a beetle or 305 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,599 a worm four or five inches under the ground. And 306 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:42,680 really the bird thrusts its beak into the ground and 307 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,359 it will hit the beetle every time. And so this 308 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:51,799 is a magnificent animal. And it's a story about resilience, 309 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,880 and underlying that there's a message about name calling because 310 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,440 Penny the Ibis talks to her parents about all the 311 00:18:59,519 --> 00:19:03,599 nasty people are calling her, and they just reinforced the 312 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,319 fact that she's a magnificent bird. She should be happy 313 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,960 with who she is. And so it's a it's a 314 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,319 little instruction manual for kids who might be called names 315 00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:17,559 at school or for those who call the names, and 316 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,880 maybe it's a cautionary tale for them, because don't call 317 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,319 somebody names until you know all about them, and when 318 00:19:25,319 --> 00:19:27,680 you do know all about them, you probably won't call 319 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,359 them names. 320 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: Can we clone you? 321 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: I want to come and help you with your podcast now? 322 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:39,279 Speaker 1: Seriously, doctor Rick. I know you have four grandchildren, and 323 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,960 I know you've done a lot in venary medicine. But 324 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,880 where do you get this inspiration? What were your parents 325 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,039 like or where? I know you grew up in Australia, 326 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:53,079 So where did you become this ambassador to wildlife? 327 00:19:53,559 --> 00:19:55,799 Speaker 3: You know, it's really interesting. I was brought up on 328 00:19:55,839 --> 00:19:59,960 a farm almost as far west of Sydney as the Outbouk, 329 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,400 so very remote. It was twelve miles to the nearest 330 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:08,839 town and the countryside was just filled with Australian native animals, 331 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:14,000 particularly birds. I mean any single day I would see 332 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,000 twenty different species of parrot just on our farm alone. 333 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,920 And so I had that upbringing, and always in the 334 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,839 back of my mind was how magnificent mother Nature is 335 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,160 absolutely I wanted to become a vet from a very 336 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,640 early age because I wanted to deal with animals. And 337 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,680 I must say my parents encouraged me to be curious, 338 00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:42,559 always encouraging me to read. There wasn't we didn't have 339 00:20:42,599 --> 00:20:46,519 a TV, we barely had a radio, so encouraging me 340 00:20:46,599 --> 00:20:51,799 to read and providing me with stories and material to read, 341 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,640 and so it just grew from there. But it's not 342 00:20:55,839 --> 00:20:59,240 until I retired from being a neurologist and a neurosurgeon 343 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:03,559 that I actually I mean, I've always loved animals, but 344 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,640 that I actually realized that I wanted to do something 345 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,279 to make sure my grandchildren had a planet to live in. 346 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:15,400 I give a lecture to anybody who will listen, and 347 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,279 it's called will your grandchildren see a lion in the wild? 348 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:26,240 And the truth is that kids being born today are 349 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,880 very likely not to be able to see a lion 350 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,240 in the wild. That's how serious our situation is. And 351 00:21:33,319 --> 00:21:37,119 so I don't want to scare kids with tales of 352 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:43,480 bushfires and floods and hurricanes and climate change, but rather 353 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,319 have them appreciate what's around them and then develop their 354 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:54,920 own thoughts about the environment based on how magnificent nature is. 355 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,160 There are several studies from Europe that show that kids 356 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,599 that are exposed through their fae formative years to authentic 357 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,240 wildlife and conservation stories actually go on as adults to 358 00:22:06,839 --> 00:22:09,720 practice those goals. And so we've got to get the 359 00:22:09,799 --> 00:22:12,920 little ones. We've got to get the little ones to understand. 360 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,039 Speaker 1: I know your books are on Amazon, certainly, but how 361 00:22:17,079 --> 00:22:19,319 do people get in touch with you? Doctor Rick? 362 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: I have a website. I'm hoping you can add to 363 00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:24,720 the notes because my name is so difficult to spell, 364 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,400 but it's called It's Rick Lakuda dot com, r I 365 00:22:29,799 --> 00:22:37,000 C K L E c O U t eur dot 366 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:39,960 com and so it's a tough one to spell. If 367 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,039 I had my time again, I would have had a 368 00:22:42,039 --> 00:22:45,039 different name, but unfortunately I had no saying it, no 369 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:45,920 saying it at all. 370 00:22:46,079 --> 00:22:48,599 Speaker 1: So hey, my name's Arden. I come from a family 371 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,319 of Deb Karen, Kevin, Bob Bill. Really, so you never know, 372 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,160 but you take what you get. And everybody again, please, 373 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,759 you got kids, you got grandkids, Please go and check 374 00:22:59,839 --> 00:23:03,200 out doctor Rick's books. He's got more in the pipeline. 375 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,039 I am betting, but this is a man on a mission. 376 00:23:06,079 --> 00:23:09,559 To help all of us, all species on our planet. 377 00:23:10,039 --> 00:23:12,640 And I have to say it's been quite an honor 378 00:23:12,759 --> 00:23:14,240 to have you on our show, doctor Rick. 379 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: It's been an honor to be here, ad and thank 380 00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:19,079 you so so much. I love the work you're doing 381 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,759 and for our little creatures on this planet, and you 382 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,559 deserve a lot of recognition for that. 383 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: Well. 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