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Speaker 1: You know that the Fiat currency system is nothing but

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a big Ponzi scheme anyways, and that's their excuse and

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how they are able to create new money. And I

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think people have finally realized that you do need to

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have some protection against inflation. I mean, we've got a

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FED raid coming again, and what do you think that's

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going to do on inflation?

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Speaker 3: And welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial

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Speaker 4: I'm your host, Carrie Lutz.

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Speaker 3: Our good friend is back with us, Todd Bubba Horowitz. Todd,

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it's great to have you back on the show. We're

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talking pre call layoffs, huge layoffs, Amazon ups. Those are

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like the stallwarts of the new economy, the digital economy,

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and now it looks like they're unraveling here.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Carry, it's.

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Speaker 1: Great to be back, and they are unraveling. But again

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where they're being replaced. You know, if you go back

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for the original Industrial Revolution, there was plenty of jobs

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for everybody because anybody could work on the line and

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anybid could do things. Well. Now with the new world

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of AI, those jobs are totally replaced and not anybody

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can walk in and replace those jobs. You know, I

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couldn't get a job today if I had go and

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get a job. Thank god I'm old, and thank god

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I'm self employed, but there isn't a job for me

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because I don't understand the AI world. I don't understand

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the technology world. And you know, it's going to be

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very it's gonna be a real challenge because where are

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people going to make money from. You can only get

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so many you can only hire so many people at

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Walmart or McDonald's or places like that. And that's part

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of the destruction of this country that we're watching, all

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thanks to our wonderful federal government.

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Speaker 3: Hey, well, they used to call it create to destruction.

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I think they're going to have to find another name

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for it now.

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Speaker 1: I tell you it's it's it's it's a horrible situation

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that we're being put into.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And of course that's the typical landing of a K

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shaped economy. The upper twenty percent or so are doing well.

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The balance is not doing well. And if you write

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the letter K, that's what it looks like, and it's

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it's it's not healthy and it's not going to be

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good for business. Yes, the markets are still soaring higher,

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but again, if you look at the volumes, look at

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what's going on, it's not real healthy.

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Speaker 4: That's that's for certain here.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, so, so all these trade deals and everything

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else aren't really going to annount too much, are they? No?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, I think President Trump

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has the right idea. But unfortunately, you know, we've become

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lazy in America and people don't really want to work. Okay,

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they're looking forward to that universal basic income check a lot.

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Forty two million Americans are looking for that snap card,

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you know, for for their food stamps. You know, it's

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amazing how you always hear about Social Security runing out

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of money, which is funded by the tax payer, but

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you never hear about welfare or the programs running out

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of money. It's kind of an interesting situation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, and another interesting situation about that's not money. Is

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that a large percentage of the people receiving it aren't

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even citizens of the United States.

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Speaker 1: You you hit the bullseye. The the the foreigners, the immigrants,

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the illegal immigrants have figured out how to gain the system,

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and they know more about their benefit programs than the

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people who wrote the programs, and they know how to

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get those benefits. And and unfortunately, I've seen and witnessed

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many of them getting them benefits that are that are

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not citizens of this country, which again tells you how

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backwards a lot of our programs are, and how much

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our government and and and the Senate and Congress really

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don't care because all they care about is getting their

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take out of the deal, not about really taking care

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of the money that we have to pay for. Because

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government doesn't create money.

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Speaker 3: They create debt, and they're very proficient at it too nobody,

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you know, they create debt faster than a spouse heading

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for the divorce court.

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Speaker 1: You know, hey, listen, if you and I lived like

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the federal government, we'd be in bankruptcy quarter or jail or.

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Speaker 3: Both, which happens. Yeah, so we you and I, we

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we go back aways. We've been talking about precious metals.

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When the sheen was off of silver when it was

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looking very oxidized and the yellow and gold was a

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little too yellow for people, and all of a sudden

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over the past year Todd and especially for silver over

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the past three four months, everything's changed.

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Speaker 1: Well. I think it's first of all, you do have

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central banks throughound the world by buying gold, and I think, look,

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you know that the Fiat currency system is nothing but

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a big Ponzi scheme anyway, and that's their excuse and

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how they are able to create new money. And I

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think people have finally realize that you do need to

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have some protection against inflation. I mean, we've got a

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FED raid coming again, and what do you think that's

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going to do with inflation? You need an asset that

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is going to keep up with the pace of inflation,

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and that is gold or silver or even platinum. They've

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had some very nice moves here, a little bit of

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a pull back recently, but I see no reason that

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they're not going to continue to go higher because I

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think you watch these major economies and these major Fiat

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currencies collapsing, and again this is the problem when you

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overcreate debt and you have no backing on what your

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currency is and of course you also don't have the

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banks in line, because I continue to say that the

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banks are in trouble, okay, and I continue to say

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that they're over leveraged. But of course we never get

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a fair and square report when they do those stress tests.

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But at the end of the day, I think metals

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have a much bigger one coming. I think this continues,

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and I think inflation can you just a rise, which

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will also help push the prices gold and silver much

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higher as well.

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Speaker 3: Boot how high the gold and silver go, well.

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Speaker 1: I mean I would expect that slow might put it

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break it down into a smaller period of town. I

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would think that silver this year will probably closed plus

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fifty and over fifty. It's below it got to fifty

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three or fifty four. I would think gold will close

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somewhere around it ties forty four to forty five hundred.

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But I think next year, I think there's a good

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chance that gold sees fifty five hundred and six thousand.

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I think that silver seas sixty or north of that. Again,

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I think that this metal rally is just beginning, and

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normally the first leg of the bull market or the

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big rally, is very sharp and very hard, which we've watched.

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up seventy five percent. So these first legs, I think

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you'll see a little consolidation, which I think we're seeing

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right now, and then I think then I think there's

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another push and then don't forget that if the equity

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markets start to break down. I mean, the equities have

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been running on no volume. But when they start to

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break down, and they will at some point, they'll be

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a solve that new money's going to want to go somewhere,

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and that money, I think we'll go into the end

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of the precious metals into the crypto space.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, the so called experts they were saying like

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thirty five dollars silver by the end of twenty twenty

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five and three thousand dollars gold, and the so called

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experts have been proven wrong yet again.

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Speaker 1: Well, the experts are not really experts. There are people

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that are being designated as experts, but they're basically ignorant. Yes,

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they're highly educated and smart people, but they don't understand

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how a free market economy works. One of the problems

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that's happened in this country, and you and I are

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probably on the same age. We've gotten farther and farther

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away from a true free market thanks to the Federal Reserve,

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thanks to Alan Greenspan, who started all this CREP back

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in nineteen eighty, we don't have a true free market.

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The Federal Reserve is so far off mandate that they

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have no idea what they're doing. They didn't even follow

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their own months. Okay, they don't let the free market

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trade because there should be no reason for a rate cut,

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and everybody knows that we should have a rate cut

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because it's gonna spike inflation, and inflation is much higher

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than they report. So again, you look at the average American.

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How does the average American live and eat and feed

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a family? You go to McDonald's. That cost you for

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a family afore a cousha thirty five dollars a go

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to McDonald's. Now, okay, so how does an average family live?

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Speaker 3: It's it's insane. And yeah, you look at the Federal Reserve.

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Their original purpose was to keep prices stable.

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Speaker 1: That was that was a cartel move though that was

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a crack they got. They pulled one over on on Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the next thing was keep employment stable.

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And now their third leg of that wobbly stool is

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never let the stock market go down, right.

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Speaker 1: That's that has been the new thing since BERNANKI and

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since since eight You know, again, this is where I

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go back to the free market. You and I both

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know that businesses come, businesses go, they go out of business,

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somebody else comes to replace them. They've taken that part

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of the equation out. They've allowed to get these companies

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to get so big. And it does have nothing wrong

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with the free market when you let it to work

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honestly and freely. We should have big companies. And again

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I have no doubt that people should make as much

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money as they can. And all this stuff about taxing

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the richinals of other stuff is a croc. But they've

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truly destroyed the entrepreneurial spirit. The small business has been

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hammered and hampered by this because they don't get the

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same benefits as big business. And I think the Federal

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Reserve is responsible for that and making that happen. Just

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what their too big to fail statement and what they've

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done and how they operate, because they are really nothing

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more than the cartel. And if you go back to

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the originators, you know, the Rochel family, Paul Warburg, JP Morgan,

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and the Rocketfellers. Do you think any of those four

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have the average Americans best interested hurt?

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Speaker 4: I doubt it, No, I think enough.

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Speaker 3: I think they're in it for themselves and they always

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have been. And I don't know if they take pleasure

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in what they're doing, but they certainly don't care about

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you or I or.

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Speaker 4: Anybody else, No, sir. And and uh, you know.

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Speaker 3: They're they're really their appetite is beyond all reason. You know,

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like when is enough enough? I know about growth, and

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you got to have things growing or they die. But

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theirs is just outright carnivorous.

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Speaker 4: Their appetite.

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Speaker 1: They want everything they want. Basically, they would love and

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this is what the agenda of socialism in this country. Okay,

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they would love to have socialism. Listen, if you're among

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the upper five percent, with the upper ten percent, you

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want socialism because nobody can ever catch up to you,

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and all you do is benefit from it. It's it's

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a bad deal, it's a bad program, and it's beyond

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me how we continue to let it go this long.

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Ron Paul was right, what is it thirty years ago?

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He said, end the fed Okay, I mean that is

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there is no need for a federal reserve, and that's

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being proven out in the crypto space right now for sure.

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Speaker 3: Hey, so what about crypto where do you think it's heading.

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Speaker 1: That's hard to say. I mean, it's it's very valuable,

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but I think I assume it will continue to go higher.

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I you know, we're training it. What one hundred and

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eleven thousand now, I mean, it certainly wouldn't surprising if

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we close the year. I knew highs at one hundred

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and thirty or so. You know, I can't make one

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of those ridiculous projections that we're going to five hundred

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or a million. Again, I look at it a piece

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by piece. I think one hundred and thirty would be

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very realistic. I think one of the best plays is

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still in the ether and space or Solana, and again,

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I think those are are great places. I'm not telling

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you to take all your money and put there. I

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think that you should have some exposure and certainly in

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the in the crypto world, there's enough ATFS now that

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if you don't want to get involved in the crypto self.

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There's a lot of stocks that you can play the

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crypto market with, and I think that you should have

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some exposure to it because I think we're in the

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very infancy of the crypto space, and I think it

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has a weed out the criminals that you know, Listen,

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we know that anytime there's money around, people you know,

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try to take advantage of it. But if we weed

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out all the crap coins and get into some real

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business and you start to see more and more establishments

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accepting bitcoin or etherum or others, I think that it

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only grows fromers. So I think we're in the very infancy,

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and I think there's a lot of potential upside, very

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similar to gold, and I think it is like a

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stored asset. And again, the beautiful thing about the crypto

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space is it's a free market system traits twenty four

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hours a day, seven days a week. Nobody gets in

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the middle of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, agreed.

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Speaker 3: And although they're definitely trying to get their hooks into

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it now, they've created the whole synthetic bitcoin space where

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they're trying to manipulate the price of bitcoin using futures

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and options and all their little games probably spoofing going

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on in there as well, but it's much harder to

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do it. And I think there's a connection between bitcoin

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and silver as far as the synthetic markets go in

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trying to control those prices.

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Speaker 1: I could see that. I mean, there's always been the

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talk of silver, and of course one thing about a market,

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though there has to be two sides of the market

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to make an actual trade. But I could I could

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certainly see the attempts to do that. You know, certainly

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they've they've they kept the lid on silver for a

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long time as the player's a cuma. That's one of

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the problems with paper assets, you know, if you look

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at like paper gold, I don't think there's enough gold

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in the role to cover the amount of paper that's

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written on. So uh, that's why I think it's very

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important that anybody who invests in this should at least

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buy some physical because I think that's where you're gonna

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need it and you're gonna get paid.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, Todd, just tell us where we find you,

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how we connect with you on the web and your

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website and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to reach me at bubbatrading dot com

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and You can also email me direct at Bubba bubbatrade

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dot com. And for your audience, give you don't mind, Carrie,

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I've written two books on auto trade options. Sure I

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have PDF files. I'll be happy to give them to

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anybody in your opins All if there is, email me

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if they'd like to have a copy of the books.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, the links in the show notes to

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this interview on Financial Survival Network dot com and I

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suggest you all write Todd get those pdf They will

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be very helpful. And we've got a question or comment.

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Shoot me an email kl at Carrie Lets dot com.

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Todd always a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Be well, Thanks, Kerry, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Have a great one.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to Carrie Lets's Financial Survival Network. Your

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