Speaker 1: It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on
Speaker 1: Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 1: Get off our show, idiot.
Speaker 3: The kids are playing or turn a lit countries are.
Speaker 2: Screwing it up.
Speaker 1: Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.
Speaker 3: They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.
Speaker 1: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 3: Who's the kid here?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Now? Here's Nick Coffee? All right, Happy Halloween. Everybody.
Speaker 4: Welcome into a Halloween edition of Coffee and Company, fuel
Speaker 4: by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you
Speaker 4: hanging out with us on a very disgusting Halloween afternoon.
Speaker 4: We're gonna take you up till six o'clock, So take
Speaker 4: us with you wherever you go. Whatever you're doing here
Speaker 4: on Halloween. You can listen live on the iHeart Radio app.
Speaker 4: Also listen live at seven Louisville dot com. And I mean,
Speaker 4: how fitting is it that if the rain doesn't stop, which,
Speaker 4: by the way, I haven't left my house since earlier
Speaker 4: this morning. It's disgusting outside right now, and it's like
Speaker 4: that lingering rain that looks like it's not going away.
Speaker 4: It's just gonna linger for the rest of the day.
Speaker 4: I hope that's not the case. But on your drive in,
Speaker 4: was it disgusting for you?
Speaker 3: John? It was?
Speaker 1: And you could tell that the people on the roads
Speaker 1: had not been used to driving in the rain based
Speaker 1: on the fact that I was in quite a bit
Speaker 1: more traffic as opposed to usual.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, especially whenever we haven't had Yeah, as you
Speaker 4: said that, we haven't had rain in a while, and
Speaker 4: I mean I feel like any we could have rain
Speaker 4: every day, then it would still cause issues with people,
Speaker 4: you know, deciding to go twenty miles per hour slower
Speaker 4: than the speed limit and all that. But just think
Speaker 4: about how cold hearted mother nature is. She's a nasty woman.
Speaker 4: Because we haven't had like good rain in a long time.
Speaker 4: I mean, it seems like it's been forever. I don't
Speaker 4: really remember the last.
Speaker 1: Time weekend of Louder than Life because it was a
Speaker 1: torrential downpour.
Speaker 3: That's right, Louder than Life.
Speaker 4: We got an insane amount of rain, and then I
Speaker 4: don't I mean, I'm sure it's rained since then, but
Speaker 4: nothing like that, and really nothing like what we have
Speaker 4: going on right now. So if it doesn't stop, the
Speaker 4: rain will have returned and will just ruin Halloween for
Speaker 4: everybody like it. I mean, if it doesn't slow down,
Speaker 4: which I think the last time I checked, there was
Speaker 4: like a window of like five to seven pm where
Speaker 4: maybe it wasn't gonna be as bad and then it
Speaker 4: was gonna pick back up a little bit later on.
Speaker 4: If that works out, then we're gonna be lucky. And
Speaker 4: that would be I guess best case scenario considering you know,
Speaker 4: how bad it's been so far today. But I mean,
Speaker 4: that's that's awful, and it's again it's Mother Nature's fault.
Speaker 4: She's she's a nasty woman. I mean, think about the
Speaker 4: timing of that like that. It couldn't have worked out worse.
Speaker 1: But rain some holidays, no matter what holiday it is,
Speaker 1: it really diminishes the vibes of whatever it is we're celebrating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like you can you know, Halloween, is
Speaker 4: there another holiday where you kind of like you need
Speaker 4: to be outside? I mean, any other holiday you can celebrate,
Speaker 4: you know, do what people typically do to celebrate that,
Speaker 4: and you don't have to be outside. In fact, you're
Speaker 4: typically not outside. But I mean, I guess maybe fourth
Speaker 4: of July like that would be one that stands out
Speaker 4: as a holiday where you'd like to be outdoors, lighting
Speaker 4: off fireworks, all that kind of stuff. And you can
Speaker 4: do Halloween stuff indoors, like haunted houses, and I know
Speaker 4: there's trunk or treats that take place actually indoors, not outside,
Speaker 4: but like going house to house trick or treating like
Speaker 4: we've done as a society for I don't know hundreds
Speaker 4: of years. However, long Halloween's been a thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, you need.
Speaker 4: Good weather, and we haven't had good weather on Halloween
Speaker 4: in a long time. And it's a real bummer this
Speaker 4: morning when I took my kids to daycare, In fact,
Speaker 4: I didn't take my kids to daycare school today. They
Speaker 4: were off school today and my son decided not to
Speaker 4: go to daycare because he wanted to go to his nanas.
Speaker 4: So I had two different drop offs this morning. And honestly,
Speaker 4: the weather couldn't have been perfect, Like, it wasn't too cold,
Speaker 4: it was gloomy, I mean, it had the look of Halloween.
Speaker 4: And then of course the rain came, and you know,
Speaker 4: it sucks for everybody, but again we're we're expecting it
Speaker 4: to slow down. Well, I haven't looked at the app
Speaker 4: in like two hours, but not looking good right now.
Speaker 4: And I'm in a cave whenever I'm there at studio
Speaker 4: with you. But I'm also in a cave when I'm
Speaker 4: here at my house where I do the show. So
Speaker 4: I have no clue. I mean, I don't have a
Speaker 4: window or anything, but I'll check periodically because I mean,
Speaker 4: the weather needs to improve. It would be real sad
Speaker 4: if we get this consistent rain that we've had for
Speaker 4: the last couple of hours, If we get that the
Speaker 4: rest of the night, it's gonna be a real bus kill,
Speaker 4: no doubt. All right, Lets mentioned we're gonna take you
Speaker 4: up until six o'clock. We got a couple of guests
Speaker 4: set to join us today, so at three twenty five ish,
Speaker 4: we're going to talk to Alex Cupper. We talk to
Speaker 4: cup each and every week to get set for Louisville football.
Speaker 3: And he would be the one that could answer the question.
Speaker 4: And it's something that I've been thrown out there, not
Speaker 4: really as a question, but I've been mentioning it all week,
Speaker 4: started on the postgame show on Friday night. Beating Boston
Speaker 4: College is nothing to brag about, and being down twenty
Speaker 4: and not even covering. I mean, it's not really an
Speaker 4: impressive win in any way as far as the actual result,
Speaker 4: But I'm hopeful that Cup will confirm what I am
Speaker 4: wishfully thinking, and that is that the way in which
Speaker 4: they were able to dominate the game after falling behind
Speaker 4: twenty to nothing. And I say dominate because again they
Speaker 4: were down twenty to nothing and ended up out scoring them,
Speaker 4: what thirty four to seven the rest of the way
Speaker 4: or something like that. So again, it's kind of what
Speaker 4: you were supposed to do. And I make quite clear
Speaker 4: throughout any conversation about that game, like it's not like
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Wow, they really turned the corner. But they
Speaker 4: have the opportunity to use what they did there as
Speaker 4: the springboard to potentially put together a complete game, which
Speaker 4: they've yet to do all year. And there's no better
Speaker 4: time than now to put together a complete game when
Speaker 4: you go on the road to play Clemson, who is
Speaker 4: playing probably I mean, I would say they're playing close
Speaker 4: to as good as Miami right now, but for what
Speaker 4: it's worth, Clemson hasn't had the close calls that Miami has,
Speaker 4: and even when Clemson's had years where they look totally
Speaker 4: different than what they looked like during their great run
Speaker 4: there with Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence, and they're not
Speaker 4: that now. But even in years where you feel like, man, Clemson, man,
Speaker 4: they fell off like, they're still.
Speaker 3: Winning eight nine games.
Speaker 4: And even in those years where you feel like they
Speaker 4: fell off further than they actually did, they still don't
Speaker 4: lose very many games at home. So it's gonna be
Speaker 4: a tough game. But with Cup, I mean, he'd be
Speaker 4: the one that can you know, he can't predict the
Speaker 4: future and tell us what those guys in the locker
Speaker 4: room are going to do. But it has to be
Speaker 4: motivating for these guys to see that they were able
Speaker 4: to erase a twenty point deficit, really when it seemed
Speaker 4: like the season had crumbled right before our eyes when
Speaker 4: they got down twenty to nothing. I mean, I'm pretty
Speaker 4: sure just about every Louisville fan watching, I know there
Speaker 4: are some that are just eternal optimists and they just
Speaker 4: refuse to ever accept that Louisville could lose the game
Speaker 4: until it's actually over. And I'm not making fun of
Speaker 4: those people. I just there's some people that are wired
Speaker 4: that way. But everybody other than that group of people
Speaker 4: had to think, Man, this thing really went off the rails.
Speaker 4: Not only have you lost three games before we got
Speaker 4: to November, but you're down twenty to nothing on the
Speaker 4: road to a team that's not very good. So it
Speaker 4: would have been easy to just mail it in. A
Speaker 4: lot of teams kind of do that. I was expecting
Speaker 4: them to do that, but they didn't, So again wishful
Speaker 4: thinking on my end. We're gonna find out though, because
Speaker 4: Saturday at Clemson, that'll be our first opportunity to see
Speaker 4: this team. Since they're come from behind victory, and they
Speaker 4: could play well and still lose because Clemson's good. I
Speaker 4: just it would be another punch to the gut for
Speaker 4: them to finally put together a complete game. And again,
Speaker 4: when I say complete game, I don't mean play perfect,
Speaker 4: because they're never gonna be perfect. I mean just to
Speaker 4: avoid mistakes that seem really avoidable, Snapping the ball over
Speaker 4: the punter's head, committing silly penalties that end your drive
Speaker 4: or extend the drive for the opponent. I mean, sometimes
Speaker 4: turnovers happen, but sometimes these turnovers haven't really been you know,
Speaker 4: the defense just making a play. So like if they
Speaker 4: do in fact put a full game together, they play well,
Speaker 4: and they come up just short. I think we can
Speaker 4: say two things. One that that would you know, that's
Speaker 4: a step in the right direction. They played a complete game,
Speaker 4: they avoided many avoidable mistakes. But the loss there would
Speaker 4: put you at what five and four, and it would
Speaker 4: be again another punch to the gut, salt to the wound,
Speaker 4: because you would look back on those other losses earlier
Speaker 4: this year, you know, at least I would. I guess
Speaker 4: you all can do whatever you want. But for me,
Speaker 4: if they play really well, maybe they play their best
Speaker 4: game of the season, but they still lose because they're
Speaker 4: at Clemson and Clemson's playing really good football right now.
Speaker 4: I mean, I would go back to the mistakes you
Speaker 4: made at Notre Dame coming out and not being ready
Speaker 4: to play at all against SMU. When it comes to defense,
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't remember a team scoring as quickly
Speaker 4: it's easily as SMU did on their first two drives.
Speaker 3: Miami. You did make it.
Speaker 4: There was a critical stretch there with the special teams
Speaker 4: penalty that backed you up inside the five, and then
Speaker 4: you fumbled on the first play. They scooped and scored.
Speaker 4: I mean that was That was a killer. But other
Speaker 4: than that, I feel like they were pretty sharp. They
Speaker 4: were able to go back and forth. I mean, they
Speaker 4: had the huge special teams play. The issue in the
Speaker 4: second half was just you couldn't tackle anybody, and you know,
Speaker 4: you were able to match them, but they were just
Speaker 4: a little better than you offensively and you came up short.
Speaker 4: So if you finally put one together and yet you
Speaker 4: come up short, because hey, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: You're playing at Clemson and they're a really good team,
Speaker 4: I mean a little too late, right. I Mean it's
Speaker 4: not to say they couldn't potentially finish strong and went out.
Speaker 4: I mean easier said than done. But man, it like,
Speaker 4: let's just say that's the scenario and you do end up,
Speaker 4: you know, finishing in the ACC. Let's say you end
Speaker 4: up beating pitt and you beat Stanford. You would finish
Speaker 4: with what you finish five and three in the ACC.
Speaker 4: And that's not a bad record by any means, but
Speaker 4: it would just feel like a big letdown. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: be panicking and worried as if, like, oh, do we
Speaker 4: have an issue here as far as being right about
Speaker 4: Jeff Brown not being right? You know, like, is he
Speaker 4: the guy for the job, but like is our ceiling
Speaker 4: high with him? I wouldn't be worried about that. I
Speaker 4: mean again, I don't know, but it would just be
Speaker 4: such a frustrating result knowing that, you know, from where
Speaker 4: I sit. Again, it's on the couch watching the game.
Speaker 4: I'm not out there coaching or playing. But some of
Speaker 4: the things that this team has done this year, I just,
Speaker 4: you know, mistakes happened. Nobody's perfect, but they've just had
Speaker 4: a blunder of issues that I just, you know, it's
Speaker 4: not These aren't.
Speaker 3: Things that you just expect to happen.
Speaker 4: I mean, you don't go into a game thinking, hey,
Speaker 4: for sure, we're going to snap the ball over the
Speaker 4: punter's head. Here, our quarterback's going to take off for
Speaker 4: fifty yards, probably the longest run of Tyler Shuck's career,
Speaker 4: and then he just coughs it up. So I'm anxious
Speaker 4: for this game on Saturday. I said it yesterday, and
Speaker 4: I mean it even more today. I am more excited
Speaker 4: for this game than I have any game all year.
Speaker 4: And it's not because I'm thinking they're about to pull
Speaker 4: off their best win of the season and really get
Speaker 4: this thing headed in the right direction as the season's
Speaker 4: wrapping up, because I don't know if that's going to happen.
Speaker 4: I mean, I believe they can. I'm not ready to
Speaker 4: say I believe that they will, but I just want
Speaker 4: to see, and we'll find out pretty early. They're gonna
Speaker 4: be on the road, toughest environment probably a lot of
Speaker 4: these guys have ever played in, and we'll know pretty
Speaker 4: quickly if they're if they're ready to play all right.
Speaker 4: Coming up at four oh five, we'll talk to Kent
Speaker 4: Spencer from w h AS eleven. Notice I was I
Speaker 4: was courteous to our guest today, John. I made sure
Speaker 4: and booked them early because you know, they got they
Speaker 4: got kids. They want to do the Halloween trick or
Speaker 4: treat thing they do, although I guess they're going to
Speaker 4: be doing it in the rain.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we'll have our guest early on. We'll let
Speaker 3: you guys be a part of the show.
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Speaker 4: there's I think a chicken one as well. Who called
Speaker 4: in the other day. They just wanted it to make
Speaker 4: fun of me for how I said to Ketos John.
Speaker 1: I don't think they came on the air, but they
Speaker 1: a random.
Speaker 4: It was a random caller that just wanted to just
Speaker 4: I mean, they wanted to call a radio show, but
Speaker 4: not come on the air to correct me on how
Speaker 4: I what did I say?
Speaker 3: Tutos show?
Speaker 1: And he was gonna make fun of you by saying
Speaker 1: something about quiso or quaso as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, fair point.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't call it quisos, so why would you call
Speaker 4: it tqutos. That's I mean, that's that makes total sense.
Speaker 4: But like if you're gonna be on alert listening closely
Speaker 4: for me to say something stupid, I mean, you're gonna
Speaker 4: be You're gonna be pretty busy. I mean, were they
Speaker 4: like be at a jerk about it? Was this correction police?
Speaker 4: Or were they just having fun?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: They were just having fun.
Speaker 4: Okay, tell me if they were like you on the air,
Speaker 4: but i'd tell you off these okay, good.
Speaker 3: Good.
Speaker 4: Sometimes people just want to call and they just want
Speaker 4: to talk to you, Like they're not interested in coming
Speaker 4: on the air. They just want to they want to
Speaker 4: they want to make fun of me in a private
Speaker 4: conversation with you while you're working.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is pretty aggravating. It doesn't happen as
Speaker 1: often as it used to, but there used to be
Speaker 1: people who wouldn't want to come on want me to
Speaker 1: forward over a message to you, and it usually is
Speaker 1: something that's not that important and it would just waste
Speaker 1: my time. And sometimes you and I are in a
Speaker 1: conversation when it happens and throws me off of what
Speaker 1: we were talking about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I need some balance because you're too It's
Speaker 4: not that you're too nice, but like you would be
Speaker 4: well within your right to just not answer a phone
Speaker 4: if you're in the middle of doing something with me,
Speaker 4: or you know, if somebody wants to chat with you,
Speaker 4: like you'd be well within your right to say sorry,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put you on hold, and then we'll just
Speaker 4: leave them there until maybe we bring them on. So
Speaker 4: you know, it's just you being a nice guy. You're
Speaker 4: a nice guy. My previous producer, the Marvelous One, he
Speaker 4: hated callers and did not shy away from letting them
Speaker 4: know that. I mean, I don't think he ever answered
Speaker 4: the phone and said, hey, seven ninety KRD, I hate you.
Speaker 4: But like if you called and he answered, it was
Speaker 4: gonna be pretty clear he wasn't really wanting to have
Speaker 4: any kind of a conversation with you, and he was
Speaker 4: actually mad that you that you called. So I need
Speaker 4: balance because you you sometimes end up just you know,
Speaker 4: having a hard time telling people, hey sorry quit yapp
Speaker 4: and I got to go back to the show.
Speaker 3: What you do, It's just not your nature.
Speaker 1: One thing I've learned to do with people, and I
Speaker 1: don't do it every time, but one thing I've gotten
Speaker 1: better with is sometimes if we you and I are chatting,
Speaker 1: I'll just see the phone screener light up and immediately
Speaker 1: put them on hold and get.
Speaker 3: To them later.
Speaker 1: But sometimes they drop off. If I do that, they
Speaker 1: can then won't talk to him. So I gotta find
Speaker 1: that balance as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well just put this there's there's never been I
Speaker 4: think a caller to the show that we needed, if
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like obviously you know the
Speaker 4: postgame shows, those are caller driven, and we have we
Speaker 4: actually have some regulars now, which is, you know, I
Speaker 4: think is what you'd expect with this show becoming what
Speaker 4: nearly two years old now. So we've got regulars and
Speaker 4: they're great, and I don't mean like that they don't
Speaker 4: contribute to the show, but like you know, it should
Speaker 4: always be like secondary thing for you because you you're
Speaker 4: part of the show, right, I mean, And actually, what
Speaker 4: makes me more angry than anything is when I shouldn't
Speaker 4: say angry, although it is. He does bother me and
Speaker 4: you know that. But like when you're on the air
Speaker 4: and somebody just barges in your studio, is if like
Speaker 4: there's no way you could be in the middle of
Speaker 4: a sentence with me and it irritates me. But anyways,
Speaker 4: we'll move on. You remember, was it yesterday the day
Speaker 4: before it was National Internet Day? I think it was
Speaker 4: two days ago, Yes, I think it was. And I
Speaker 4: was talking about how I don't know how anybody really
Speaker 4: did anything before the Internet. But I don't know anybody
Speaker 4: ever did live radio before the Internet. Like if I
Speaker 4: don't have some kind of connectivity or something to reference
Speaker 4: on the Internet. I mean, even my notes are on
Speaker 4: the Internet. Like if I use Google Docs to prepare
Speaker 4: for the show. Believe it or not, I do prepare
Speaker 4: for this show sometimes, but if I don't have Internet,
Speaker 4: I can't access Google Docs because it's you know, it's
Speaker 4: an Internet based document. So like, I don't know how
Speaker 4: anybody did it before. And now I have Internet, But
Speaker 4: like my computer, my laptop is going so slow. I
Speaker 4: feel like I'm back on dial up. I'm gonna reboot
Speaker 4: it during our next break but I mean it's never
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe it's because I got like fifteen windows open,
Speaker 4: but I usually do, like I'm not doing the show
Speaker 4: for my end any different now than I usually do
Speaker 4: whenever I'm doing it from home. But for some reason,
Speaker 4: I can't, Like everything's loading slow, like I'm dragging things
Speaker 4: to across my screens.
Speaker 1: It's all the spirit's coming out for Halloween, interfering with
Speaker 1: your internet connection.
Speaker 4: I was I was editing video earlier, which does take
Speaker 4: up a lot of my computer and does make it
Speaker 4: move a little slower, but I closed all that out,
Speaker 4: so I don't know. Maybe I need a power down
Speaker 4: power up, A good old power cycle can help us.
Speaker 4: But again, like if I didn't have internet or computer
Speaker 4: or even my phone, because I can use my phone too,
Speaker 4: but like I, for some reason we had no connectivity,
Speaker 4: I would just be I don't know, I'd probably just
Speaker 4: I mean, I'd be sitting here spinning my wheels, not
Speaker 4: knowing what to you know, not knowing what to say.
Speaker 4: And it's not like I couldn't eventually think of something
Speaker 4: Like it's not like I literally read word for word
Speaker 4: what we say on the show. I mean, it's not
Speaker 4: that at all. But I think it's the knowing that
Speaker 4: I have lost connectivity and I'm just like a I
Speaker 4: don't know, I'm like a robot, that is.
Speaker 1: When it keeps you on track too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, So I'm gonna have to reboot here at
Speaker 4: some point.
Speaker 3: All Right, it looks like we've got I just checked that.
Speaker 4: This may be a little old, but I'm seeing some
Speaker 4: lines here for the first time for college basketball. It
Speaker 4: defaults when I go to to FanDuel A defaults to
Speaker 4: go to college basketball, because that's what I have bet
Speaker 4: on more than anything, is college hoops. And we have
Speaker 4: some opening lines Kentucky minus twenty one and a half
Speaker 4: against Wright State on Monday. Louisville's is not listed yet
Speaker 4: here on FanDuel. I don't know if it's if it's
Speaker 4: up anywhere else, but I was gonna I was actually
Speaker 4: going to see if there's any update to the spread
Speaker 4: here for Louisville because I know they've been a double
Speaker 4: digit dog throughout the week. I don't anticipate that will change,
Speaker 4: and I think that that may total sense. Yeah, they're
Speaker 4: ten and a half point dogs in this one. Kentucky
Speaker 4: sixteen and a half, which I'm looking forward to talking
Speaker 4: to kent a little bit later on, because I know
Speaker 4: Kentucky's had struggles in a variety of ways, and really,
Speaker 4: this is the first time where I feel like Mark
Speaker 4: Stoops is having a I mean, he's had rough seasons before,
Speaker 4: but more I mean, the type of season they're having
Speaker 4: now is similar to what they had when he first
Speaker 4: got there, but since they started going, like since they
Speaker 4: went to a bowl game for the first time, whenever
Speaker 4: that was. You know, this is the worst year they've
Speaker 4: had since then as far as how it's playing out,
Speaker 4: and there really isn't any like, you know, not to
Speaker 4: say that they should have beat Georgia or anything like that,
Speaker 4: but like they probably at this point have better players
Speaker 4: than Auburn. They probably at this point have better players
Speaker 4: in South Carolina Florida, you know, kind of a kind
Speaker 4: of a coin toss, because they've always always recruited well.
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is like this is a year
Speaker 4: where they're struggling, and you can't just say, well, it's
Speaker 4: the same old Kentucky who just doesn't have good players
Speaker 4: and can't compete with the rest of the SEC, which
Speaker 4: is something wrong. But what I don't think is wrong
Speaker 4: is quarterback play, and it sounds like they may go back.
Speaker 4: I mean, they already are going back and forth with
Speaker 4: both Gavin Wimsett and Brock Vandergriff, and Vandergriff hasn't been great,
Speaker 4: but like, I don't feel like they're in the position
Speaker 4: they're in because of his quarterback play and no offense
Speaker 4: to Gavin Wimsett. He clearly gives you a different dynamic.
Speaker 4: But the young man was really really bad as a
Speaker 4: pocket quarterback at Rutgers and now he's in the SEC
Speaker 4: and anytime they ask him to pass the ball, you
Speaker 4: kind of feel like, hey, did they put somebody that's
Speaker 4: not a quarterback at quarterback? Like he just doesn't look
Speaker 4: the part and he's not accurate, and nobody ever thought
Speaker 4: he would be a guy that's out there leading the
Speaker 4: Kentucky offense utilizing a really good arm. But I mean,
Speaker 4: if you want to win any games moving forward, you're
Speaker 4: gonna have to utilize Dane Key, who's playing really good
Speaker 4: football right now, Barry and Brown, who at any moment
Speaker 4: can can make a big play and change a game.
Speaker 4: And I don't see how you could utilize those guys
Speaker 4: with Gavin Wimst, Like I feel like Brock vandergriff is
Speaker 4: your best bet to finish the season strong. I mean,
Speaker 4: going to a Bowl seems unlikely for them at this
Speaker 4: point just because of you know who they have to play,
Speaker 4: but you know, maybe they do pull off an upset.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 4: I said this yesterday, and I'm not gonna be shocked
Speaker 4: if it's already been said elsewhere or it starts to
Speaker 4: get mentioned tomorrow. And it's not because I think people
Speaker 4: are stealing my takes. But whenever you feel like Kentucky's
Speaker 4: about to get murdered in the last few years, maybe
Speaker 4: even further back than that in the Mark Stoops era,
Speaker 4: they usually end up surprising people and playing well. I mean,
Speaker 4: look at the look at the Georgia game. I mean
Speaker 4: that was I mean that was maybe the best example
Speaker 4: of it. The Louisville game last year. I mean they
Speaker 4: weren't really actually yeah, they were coming off the loss
Speaker 4: to South Carolina. I believe last year who was really bad.
Speaker 4: So I mean I don't expect them to win, and
Speaker 4: I certainly wouldn't touch this game as far as a wager,
Speaker 4: but I mean I won't be shocked if they end
Speaker 4: up competing more so than some expect.
Speaker 3: Like, put it this way, I won't be shocked if.
Speaker 4: This thing ends up being closer than Florida, maybe even
Speaker 4: closer than the Auburn game. That would mean they cover, though,
Speaker 4: because they're sixteen and a half point dog. Would they
Speaker 4: lose to Auburn by two scores? I think it was
Speaker 4: something like that. So anyways, I can't believe it's already Thursday.
Speaker 4: We're just a couple of days away from more college football.
Speaker 4: The season's going by too fast, John, have you noticed that?
Speaker 3: Like it?
Speaker 1: I mean, it has gone by fast, but I'm as
Speaker 1: always enjoying the ride with my hoosys, right, But don't.
Speaker 3: You want it to slow down? You're having the best
Speaker 3: season of your life.
Speaker 1: Is in the van point though, Like I'm like, I
Speaker 1: want to see the postseason. What's that going to look like?
Speaker 1: You know? Yep?
Speaker 4: All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side.
Speaker 4: Talk to mister Alex Kupper. Keep it locked right here.
Speaker 4: It's coffee and Company. Phil about Thornton's on Sports Talk
Speaker 4: seven ninety.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 4: Welcome back into a Happy hallowell a Halloween edition. Happy Halloween, everybody,
Speaker 4: I can't speak. It is Halloween, and it is coffee
Speaker 4: and company as we take you up until six o'clock.
Speaker 4: Shate you hanging out with us. Hopefully this rain goes away,
Speaker 4: Well done, John. I just I'm hopeful that we we
Speaker 4: get at least at you know, hit pause and let
Speaker 4: it stop rating for like an hour. We can get
Speaker 4: an hour between like five and eight o'clock. It's you know,
Speaker 4: somewhere within there. I think that would be I mean,
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be perfect, but he'd be better than what's
Speaker 4: going on right now. All right, let's let's bring him
Speaker 4: in to talk some Louisville football. He's a former Louisville Cardinal,
Speaker 4: former NFL offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: Mister Alex Copper. Happy Halloween, cup. How are we doing?
Speaker 4: Brother? Hey?
Speaker 2: Happy Halloween?
Speaker 4: Nick.
Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. Hoping we can get a dry
Speaker 2: spell so we get the kids around and they can
Speaker 2: enjoy the holiday.
Speaker 3: Well before we get into football. I know.
Speaker 4: The question I've been eager to ask you all day
Speaker 4: is what are your kids being for Halloween?
Speaker 2: The older one is the World Series Champion show heo
Speaker 2: Tani nice ye, which he actually he could kind of
Speaker 2: fall for it. He's a little taller, he's bigger, you know,
Speaker 2: for his age or whatever.
Speaker 3: And he's a winner straight air.
Speaker 2: Yeah not definitely doesn't speak Japanese, but they'll.
Speaker 3: Have to clean up that.
Speaker 2: But and the younger one is going to be Lamar Jackson, so.
Speaker 3: Oh great, great, great choice? Have you have you?
Speaker 4: Have you dressed up with them? Like have you all
Speaker 4: done costumes together to where like it's like a theme thing?
Speaker 3: Have you? Are you one of the dads that's been
Speaker 3: sucked into that yet not.
Speaker 2: As that was more in their earlier years. Are getting
Speaker 2: a little getting a little older.
Speaker 3: They're too cool for that now, right, that is cool?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was gonna plan on being the FBI agent
Speaker 2: that was after Otani You wearing an FBI jacket.
Speaker 3: Oh that had been perfect. Yeah, that'd have been perfect.
Speaker 2: But no, we did that when they were younger.
Speaker 4: I uh, I was at Churchill Downs on Sunday. They
Speaker 4: had a little Halloween uh trunk or treat thing for
Speaker 4: the kids while racing was going on, and I saw
Speaker 4: a few families and I felt like it was a
Speaker 4: dad moment for me because I was like, you know what,
Speaker 4: like we should have done that. And usually I would
Speaker 4: have been like, honey, you're not making me dress up
Speaker 4: in any costume? But now, like you know, as a dad,
Speaker 4: you evolve over time. But I'm sure, but you know
Speaker 4: my kids now wouldn't want to be dressed up with
Speaker 4: me because you know they're doing their owning.
Speaker 3: They're getting older too.
Speaker 4: But let let's let's start with what happened at Boston
Speaker 4: College last last Friday, because uh, you would be able
Speaker 4: to answer this better than anybody else that I know.
Speaker 4: Louisville beating Boston College not a real impressive thing as
Speaker 4: far as just the overall win, because you know that's
Speaker 4: what they were supposed to do. But is it fair
Speaker 4: to say that if these guys have the right mindset
Speaker 4: about it, that the way they kind of came together
Speaker 4: and really played their best football defensively as far as
Speaker 4: consistently in the second half, clearly the offense has been
Speaker 4: playing well. Again, the win itself is not anything that impressive,
Speaker 4: but like am I am I reaching when it comes
Speaker 4: to looking at that, the way it played out, the comeback,
Speaker 4: the way those guys were bouncing around carrying themselves out there,
Speaker 4: not only at the end of the game but after
Speaker 4: the game. Could that be a moment if they choose
Speaker 4: to utilize it as as the moment that maybe they
Speaker 4: start playing complete games and you know, not not me perfect,
Speaker 4: but at least clean some things up and maybe start
Speaker 4: playing their best football moving forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean absolutely, when whenever you whenever you can
Speaker 2: go on the road and get to win another one,
Speaker 2: that's two in a row. Now, it just instills so
Speaker 2: much confidence that you know, you have that ability that hey,
Speaker 2: this this is you know, this is us against the
Speaker 2: world kind of mentality. You know this, how are you
Speaker 2: going to show up? Who's going to show up and
Speaker 2: really perform? And those kind of moments and right now,
Speaker 2: you know a lot of a lot of guys did
Speaker 2: last week, and and the defense has shown and special
Speaker 2: teams have shown that they are you know, they are
Speaker 2: able to go on the road and do and perform
Speaker 2: their perform at a high level and perform at a
Speaker 2: level that can get you in. So yeah, it builds
Speaker 2: confidence within the team, uh, knowing that the I mean
Speaker 2: and you you could see it, just see you know,
Speaker 2: we use us in your eyes and seeing like the
Speaker 2: talent disparity and just we we should we were better
Speaker 2: than that Boston College team. So if we were going
Speaker 2: to leave there with a loss, it was going to
Speaker 2: be very detrimental, and it did feel that way just
Speaker 2: based on you know, some of those errors we may
Speaker 2: turning the ball over and and you know, not not
Speaker 2: locking it down on fourth down. So yeah, they're those
Speaker 2: are all things that can be cleaned up and will
Speaker 2: need to be cleaned up if you even want to
Speaker 2: think about having a shot at winning this week.
Speaker 4: So the defense, I mean, I think they're they're a
Speaker 4: question mark as far as how you would describe them
Speaker 4: or assess their play at this point, because I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't think they're great. Clearly the results would tell
Speaker 4: you that, but like I also don't think that they're terrible.
Speaker 4: I think what you saw in the second half really
Speaker 4: after Boston College's last score was their most consistent stretch
Speaker 4: of play maybe maybe all year outside of those first
Speaker 4: two games. Did you see any I mean, look after
Speaker 4: that last touchdown Louisville in thirty eight plays, gave up
Speaker 4: sixty eight yards and no points. That was the final
Speaker 4: six possessions for Boston College. Clearly you're going to be
Speaker 4: facing a much tougher offense against Clemson, But did you
Speaker 4: see something with the defense as far as schematics, like
Speaker 4: a scheme change or just mixing it up because I
Speaker 4: mean I feel like if they play the way they
Speaker 4: did in the second half, I mean, it'd be a
Speaker 4: big game changer moving forward.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, and I think you know, more than anything schematically, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's some there was more some more downhill play from
Speaker 2: the linebackers. I mean, I think I think that's pivot
Speaker 2: if you're if you're waiting for the play to develop
Speaker 2: and and the offensive you know, the offensive lineman want
Speaker 2: linebackers to kind of sit back so that they can
Speaker 2: set up their blocks. And there's there's cutback lanes, and
Speaker 2: there's there's there's natural running lanes that develop. So playing
Speaker 2: more downhill that's not as much comatic as it is
Speaker 2: just you know, being more aggressive at that position. And
Speaker 2: they tackled, They tackled so much better a car across
Speaker 2: the board, you know they did. They didn't play as
Speaker 2: talented as a group as they did against Miami and
Speaker 2: some others, but there was guys in space that you
Speaker 2: just got down, you got on the ground, you tackled
Speaker 2: well in the box. As I mentioned, those those linebackers
Speaker 2: playing downhill helps. But then the D line, D line
Speaker 2: actually you know you saw the surge and you saw
Speaker 2: them you know, getting in and disrupting run lanes, and
Speaker 2: then and you know on the back end, you know
Speaker 2: you play, you played better, played better coverage and were
Speaker 2: able to make tackles and not let guys work free.
Speaker 2: So no, there's there's a lot to be gained from
Speaker 2: just an overall mindset of Hey, this is what you
Speaker 2: need to bring. This is the type of events you
Speaker 2: need to pack if you're going to try and win
Speaker 2: games on the road or at home.
Speaker 4: Alex covers our guests joining us here on Sports Talk
Speaker 4: seven to ninety Clemson before we talk about the team
Speaker 4: this year and obviously the challenge level was going to
Speaker 4: have on Saturday. I know you've gone to Clemson at
Speaker 4: least once, maybe more than once when you were doing
Speaker 4: the color analyst work with Paul Rodgers. And I know
Speaker 4: you've played in a lot of big time environments, and
Speaker 4: you were in other environments as a broadcaster during your
Speaker 4: run working for u of L. But I mean, is
Speaker 4: Clemson where does it rank as far as the best
Speaker 4: college atmospheres you've been to, regardless if it's you playing
Speaker 4: or working in the booth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's just the big time atmosphere is
Speaker 2: so much I mean it's it's carved right out of
Speaker 2: the SEC mold. I mean, obviously it's in It's right
Speaker 2: down the way from Georgia.
Speaker 4: It's probably the closest thing to it as far as
Speaker 4: a team that's not in the SEC.
Speaker 2: Right correct, very much, even I mean Tallahassee doesn't even
Speaker 2: I mean, it's still big time. There's so much aura
Speaker 2: and prestige about it. But when it comes to just
Speaker 2: overall fan presence and you know, more of an not
Speaker 2: as I mean intimidation sort of, when it comes to
Speaker 2: how daunting it is, so you know how big the
Speaker 2: stadium is and it gets packed in there very loud.
Speaker 2: Those are all the things that I can recall being
Speaker 2: just totally different. You know Boston College, you know, there's
Speaker 2: a different, different type of atmosphere. Yeah, they're excited about football,
Speaker 2: they don't love it. It's not in their blood like
Speaker 2: it is done Clemson in other places.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I wasn't there, but I would say despite
Speaker 4: it being a loss, that Lamar and Deshaun game from
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, I mean, I think again, despite it being
Speaker 4: a loss, there's still many Louis of fans that claim
Speaker 4: that's the best atmosphere that they've ever been in. And
Speaker 4: it wasn't just because of the crowd, but like that
Speaker 4: game was was insane. So I'm happy to hear that
Speaker 4: there are a lot of louisvill fans going. And by
Speaker 4: a lot, I don't mean you're going to see a
Speaker 4: ton of red there, but it's the type of experience
Speaker 4: and trip that you know, if you've made arrangements, even
Speaker 4: though the season probably hasn't gone like you would have
Speaker 4: expected at this point, you're still gonna go.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I mean, and you look, you look at
Speaker 2: the look at the TV schedule and those those folks
Speaker 2: typically are trying to predict, you know, what kind of
Speaker 2: major moments you're gonna you're gonna carve out of each
Speaker 2: time slot and and putting it where they did and
Speaker 2: and slot and hit SMU to agency network. I mean,
Speaker 2: they're they definitely have a feel that Louisville can be
Speaker 2: competitive and make it a game and make it something
Speaker 2: that's very entertaining to watch, which you know as a fan,
Speaker 2: that's all that's all you want. You want to go
Speaker 2: down there. You want your team to compete at the
Speaker 2: highest level against against the best competition and on the
Speaker 2: on the biggest stage. So that is that's why you
Speaker 2: book the trip like that, and and everybody that's going
Speaker 2: should be should be excited and and you know, pumped
Speaker 2: up for what they're going to see.
Speaker 4: Since losing to Georgia earlier this year, Clemson's played a
Speaker 4: lot better, looked really good. Their offense has been very powerful,
Speaker 4: and their defense is never an issue. I would not
Speaker 4: say that they're unworthy of their ranking or anything like that,
Speaker 4: but I do think it's also something that's kind of
Speaker 4: hard to ignore that and it's not their fault. Doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that they're not great. They may win every game
Speaker 4: the rest of the season, but they really haven't had
Speaker 4: a tough opponent since they played Georgia.
Speaker 3: Do you have much of a feel for this Clemson team.
Speaker 4: Obviously a good team, but I can't tell if they're
Speaker 4: closer to the team that you know, in the second
Speaker 4: half really struggle against one of the best teams in
Speaker 4: the country Georgia, you know, or if you know it's
Speaker 4: the other way around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think when you when you size
Speaker 2: them up and look look at look you know, up
Speaker 2: and down the depth chart, it's this is going to
Speaker 2: be an extremely talented team similar to what what you
Speaker 2: face Nerding, probably a little more speed on the outside
Speaker 2: and a quarterback that can stretch the ball down the field.
Speaker 2: So it's this is it's something where they I mean
Speaker 2: they stacked up well against Georgia. They just you know,
Speaker 2: Georgia got them off their spot and was were able
Speaker 2: to take and complete control of the game and put
Speaker 2: clubnicking situations he didn't want to be in. So I
Speaker 2: think you trying try and design that mold. Obviously we
Speaker 2: don't have the the the kind of personnel Georgia does,
Speaker 2: but you can use some strategic things that Kirby Smart
Speaker 2: likes to do to get a get a quarterback uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: I mean, it starts with winning first second down. You know,
Speaker 2: if he if he's hanging out and third and medium,
Speaker 2: third and short, they're gonna be able to do their
Speaker 2: play action. They're gonna be able to do their fake
Speaker 2: screens and and and get the ball in space to
Speaker 2: their playmakers. And that's that's gonna that's gonna create some
Speaker 2: some tough situations for our defense. So it all all
Speaker 2: starts there. But I think offensively, Shucked should be the
Speaker 2: best quarterback they've seen since Carson back. So that's that's
Speaker 2: something where you know you want to you want to
Speaker 2: go on with a great defense. You want to go
Speaker 2: on with a quarterback that's that's willing to lay it
Speaker 2: on the line and make big time throws and big
Speaker 2: time moments.
Speaker 4: Pro Football Focus they put out their their quarterback evaluations
Speaker 4: up to this point, and both club Nick and Shuck
Speaker 4: we're in the top ten. So it's going to be
Speaker 4: a battle between two really good quarterbacks at this point.
Speaker 4: Do you think, given your your time in the NFL
Speaker 4: and you're you know, you know much better than I,
Speaker 4: do you think Tyler Shuck is an NFL quarterback?
Speaker 3: I think he? Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he knock on wood. He's trying to
Speaker 2: maintain that he can have a full complete season health
Speaker 2: you know, health wise. Uh, he makes He makes all
Speaker 2: the throws he needs to make. You know, could he
Speaker 2: could he have a little better velocity of you know,
Speaker 2: getting the ball out of his hand. Sure you know
Speaker 2: that those are all things that you know, keep the
Speaker 2: premiere and elite guys like Jadon Daniel's spindle flickers, wrists
Speaker 2: and Lamar the same thing on just that natural arm talent.
Speaker 2: But he is creative, and he does show moxie when
Speaker 2: it comes to having having a vision on where to
Speaker 2: where to place the ball in in the pocket and
Speaker 2: then in the receivers, you know, in the receiver's window
Speaker 2: to pick up third downs, which is the biggest you know,
Speaker 2: it's the money down. Obviously in the NFL, if you
Speaker 2: can face pressure and meet that pressure with accuracy and
Speaker 2: quick hands, that's that is what they're looking for in
Speaker 2: the NFL. If you can't throw it a million miles,
Speaker 2: that's okay. If you make up for the other two things.
Speaker 3: One more for you, Cup.
Speaker 4: When it comes to Saturday night, let's say Louisville ends
Speaker 4: up holding on pulling off an upset the first time
Speaker 4: ever that they would have beaten Clemson. I'm asking you
Speaker 4: to predict the future if that happens, how'd we get there? Like,
Speaker 4: what what do you think would be something we're really
Speaker 4: emphasizing was the key as far as this game. Obviously,
Speaker 4: you're going to need to be pretty good at just
Speaker 4: about every spot. Right, that's that's the kind of opponent
Speaker 4: you're playing in that kind of environment. But if if
Speaker 4: in fact, my postgame show late into the night is
Speaker 4: one that is celebratory. What do you think who do
Speaker 4: you think we're given or what do you think we're
Speaker 4: given the most praise to.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it goes without saying that you have
Speaker 2: to have a fast start, but I think it would
Speaker 2: be to the defense. You have a you have a
Speaker 2: pick six, you have a fumble return for a touchdown,
Speaker 2: something crazy to start the game, which which immediately sends
Speaker 2: that fan fandom into just a you know, a complete,
Speaker 2: you know, dysfunction where they're like, oh my god, what
Speaker 2: are we doing?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: And then that's matched with a great running game. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, if if it becomes a shootout, I don't
Speaker 2: like our odds. Obviously we can, We've seen how that works.
Speaker 2: But I also don't like us coming from behind. We
Speaker 2: definitely have to pull ahead and get them off their
Speaker 2: spot and keep them off their spot. If if you're
Speaker 2: letting them just play downhill, run the plethora of defenses
Speaker 2: they want to run. Same with offense, we're going to
Speaker 2: be in for a long day. That's it's just it's
Speaker 2: just how we would make up it would it would
Speaker 2: feel very very similar to kind of how SMU in
Speaker 2: Miami were able to maintain the rhythm of the game offensively, defensively,
Speaker 2: whatever they wanted they could do. You got to take
Speaker 2: control of this game at the very first whistle.
Speaker 4: Cup, Good stuff, Enjoy Halloween, my man. Always good to
Speaker 4: chat with you, and now we'll talk soon.
Speaker 2: Brother sounds good man, you two.
Speaker 4: It's Alex Cover former Louisvill Cardinal. Always appreciate him making
Speaker 4: time for us. Good stuff there. I think he's right
Speaker 4: when it comes to a shootout. I don't love Louisville's
Speaker 4: chances against a lot of teams because not their offense.
Speaker 4: I think their offense has shown that they can strike
Speaker 4: and not necessarily go score.
Speaker 3: For score with anybody. But they have the ability to
Speaker 3: do it. They're built to do it.
Speaker 4: The defense is where I worry if he gets to
Speaker 4: be a shootout just because you know, I mean, we've
Speaker 4: seen how it plays out. As Cup said, all right,
Speaker 4: quick break will come back on the other side. Wrap
Speaker 4: up the three o'clock hour, don't forget coming up to
Speaker 4: get the four o'clock hours started. We're going to bring
Speaker 4: in mister Ken Spencer of Whas eleven. We'll get his
Speaker 4: thoughts on the Kentucky side of things as they're facing
Speaker 4: a tall task on the road at Tennessee, and who
Speaker 4: knows what else we'll get into with Kemp, but stick
Speaker 4: around again. It's a Halloween edition of Coffee and Company.
Speaker 4: Philbeth Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety I don't remember
Speaker 4: the last time I had success wagering on football on
Speaker 4: a Thursday night, but you know what, I'm gonna do
Speaker 4: it again tonight. I don't have much confidence really with
Speaker 4: anything I'm betting, although in college football I've done a
Speaker 4: little better as of late. I've had a couple of
Speaker 4: wins in the last couple of weeks as far as
Speaker 4: you know, a couple of two leg parlays, so you know,
Speaker 4: it's not as if I'm losing every time.
Speaker 3: But Thursdays have not been good to me this year.
Speaker 4: But I feel like this two lane Charlotte game tonight,
Speaker 4: which is the only college football game that we have
Speaker 4: tonight on Halloween. I know Charlott's at home and TWU Lane.
Speaker 4: I know the record is not have to pull up
Speaker 4: the record. I know earlier this year they taking some losses. Yeah, ok, yeah,
Speaker 4: the two losses they've had are have been I think,
Speaker 4: just some pretty good teams. So they nearly beat Kansas state,
Speaker 4: which they should have to be honest with that game
Speaker 4: earlier this year was when I got to see a
Speaker 4: good chunk of so Charlotte stinks? Was it bif Pogy?
Speaker 4: Is that the name of the head coach Indiana beat
Speaker 4: the beat them bad earlier this year, which that's all
Speaker 4: Indiana does is beat the breaks off anybody they play
Speaker 4: in football. Which it's crazy to say it out loud,
Speaker 4: but it's true. Two lane minus fourteen and a half.
Speaker 4: And I know John Summral's team doesn't necessarily is that
Speaker 4: where he is now? I think he left Troy to
Speaker 4: go to tu Lane. I mean fourteen, it has a
Speaker 4: lot of points, but I mean Charlotte's thinks.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I have to reconsider that one. But it seems like
Speaker 4: a like a like an easy play. And then in
Speaker 4: the NFL, I have no confidence in anything I bet
Speaker 4: on in the NFL. And and you know people say
Speaker 4: this when they're trying to, you know, make a bad
Speaker 4: joke about how bad they are in betting. And I've
Speaker 4: done it many times too, like, hey, do the exact
Speaker 4: opposite of what I do.
Speaker 3: Fade me.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna make a wager and then change it at
Speaker 4: the last minute, because that's how bad I am. That
Speaker 4: really is how I feel like I should be betting
Speaker 4: on the NFL. Like I'm not even trying to make
Speaker 4: the bad joke, Like whatever seems really obvious in the
Speaker 4: play ends up not working out. And not only with
Speaker 4: teams not covering as favorites.
Speaker 3: There was one week earlier.
Speaker 4: I mean, we're still relatively early on in the NFL season,
Speaker 4: but I think it might have been Week three. There
Speaker 4: were only three teams that were double digit favorites and
Speaker 4: they all lost outright, Like anytime it seems like it,
Speaker 4: you know, you might start to get things to kind
Speaker 4: of balance out and you start to feel okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: anything can happen in the NFL.
Speaker 3: We know that.
Speaker 4: But this is who you should expect to be towards
Speaker 4: the bottom of the league.
Speaker 3: Here is a huge.
Speaker 4: Group of teams that are kind of mid and then
Speaker 4: you've got, you know, a small group of good teams.
Speaker 4: And then you have like, I don't know, maybe two
Speaker 4: three teams that you feel like, if they're at their best,
Speaker 4: they're the elite tier, Like I don't know where anybody
Speaker 4: truly belongs, Like I feel like the Broncos suck this year,
Speaker 4: the Broncos are five and three, Like, how's that? Like,
Speaker 4: how do the Broncos and the Ravens have the same record?
Speaker 4: And I'm sure there are many people that follow the
Speaker 4: NFL that could have told you the records, but like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like I Baltimore maybe the best example
Speaker 4: because they were playing the best football in the league
Speaker 4: for a few weeks, but they also lost their first
Speaker 4: two games of the season, so it's been tough to
Speaker 4: figure out. I'm not somebody that just is willing to
Speaker 4: give Aaron Rodgers this this brand bump if you if
Speaker 4: you will, I mean maybe, I mean Baron Rodgers one
Speaker 4: of the best quarterbacks I've ever watched play, but the
Speaker 4: Jets are not good. He can still make some throws
Speaker 4: at times, but like he does think that he's not
Speaker 4: good enough with this team to just go out there
Speaker 4: and you know, start winning games with the elite cou play.
Speaker 4: And yeah, they've made some you know, I mean when
Speaker 4: they have two games now with DeVante Adams, they've lost
Speaker 4: both of them, I think.
Speaker 3: So the Texans are good too.
Speaker 4: So it's in New York and the Texans are two
Speaker 4: and a half point dogs.
Speaker 1: But you know, again, if I were betting on this game,
Speaker 1: I'd be taking the under because even though the Texans
Speaker 1: are good, they're without an Ego Collins. They're also without
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs tonight, and so I'm just thinking the offense
Speaker 1: may not be there for them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that may be the safer play, but who wants
Speaker 4: to bet the under? I mean, that's that's no.
Speaker 3: Way to live life. It's no way to go about life.
Speaker 4: But sometimes it's the In fact, anytime I bet when
Speaker 4: it comes to doing totals, which I don't do much
Speaker 4: of those anymore, but when it comes to doing totals,
Speaker 4: I would bet that any well eighty percent of the
Speaker 4: wins I have had when it comes to over or
Speaker 4: unders have probably been unders, which again, like, if you win,
Speaker 4: that's all that matters, but it's not all. It's not
Speaker 4: an enjoyable experience to watch football or basketball when you're
Speaker 4: hoping teams don't score, but hey, it's still exciting if
Speaker 4: you end up winning, and I haven't done enough of
Speaker 4: that this year. When it comes to, you know, betan
Speaker 4: on football, I really can't wait to start betting on
Speaker 4: college basketball. That's I mean, because really it's every day
Speaker 4: of the week, like every day of the season. There's
Speaker 4: games going on for the most part, and I typically
Speaker 4: do better at college basketball when it's more of an
Speaker 4: obscure opponent or obscure matchup. I should say, not necessarily
Speaker 4: the big names, but at FanDuel there's no line for
Speaker 4: Louisville and Morehead State. But if you missed it earlier,
Speaker 4: and maybe this has been out there, but I just
Speaker 4: saw it for the first time, you've got Kentucky's twenty
Speaker 4: one and a half point favorites over Right State. Right
Speaker 4: State's usually a pretty good team in the horizon. But
Speaker 4: this is what I've learned in recent years as somebody
Speaker 4: who does follow college basketball pretty closely. I don't say
Speaker 4: that to brag. It's probably not something to brag about.
Speaker 4: I'm a nerd when it comes to college hoops. But
Speaker 4: these mid majors that typically, for you know, sometimes decades,
Speaker 4: always were in the top tier of their conference. You know,
Speaker 4: every five years they're winning three of the league championships
Speaker 4: to punch their ticket to the tournament. That's just not
Speaker 4: sustainable anymore because of the portal like these teams are
Speaker 4: having to start over like a lot of I mean,
Speaker 4: they're probably getting gutted more than most, So, you know,
Speaker 4: I feel like Wright State's typically been one of the
Speaker 4: better teams in the Horizon, but I don't know, maybe
Speaker 4: they lost everybody because again, obviously, if you're playing in
Speaker 4: the Horizon and you have a good year and you
Speaker 4: got a chance to go to a higher level, higher level,
Speaker 4: most of these guys are going to do that. So
Speaker 4: at noon on Saturday, Chris Mack will make his return
Speaker 4: to college basketball. Officially, it is the very first game
Speaker 4: of the college basketball season, Charleston taken on Southern Illinois.
Speaker 4: I think that game's being played at like a casino
Speaker 4: in South Dakota or something like that, so I think
Speaker 4: it's also going to be I think the broadcast is
Speaker 4: Field of sixty eight. I don't know if it's through
Speaker 4: YouTube or if they've got like a streaming if they've
Speaker 4: got a channel on one of these streaming services. But
Speaker 4: on Monday, if you want to watch some afternoon college basketball.
Speaker 3: You can do it. I'm gonna be watching, but you know.
Speaker 4: It's because I love college hoops and you know, I
Speaker 4: want to see how coach Mac does.
Speaker 1: Do they still do the twenty four hour marathon?
Speaker 4: No, they got rid of that and I hate that
Speaker 4: they did that, but that was I mean, it was
Speaker 4: it was an event, right. It wasn't like it was
Speaker 4: great college basketball around the clock, you know, for twenty
Speaker 4: four hours. I mean the games you would get in
Speaker 4: the very odd times to play a game would be
Speaker 4: teams you've probably never heard of. But it was like
Speaker 4: an all day event and it brought so much attention
Speaker 4: just I mean, it wasn't like everybody was stopping what
Speaker 4: they were doing, but it being a known thing for
Speaker 4: however many years they did it that there's gonna be
Speaker 4: college basketball on for twenty four hours consecutively. Like all
Speaker 4: that does is bring potentially more eyeballs, more exposure to
Speaker 4: your sport. And I feel like college hoops has always
Speaker 4: needed that when it comes to, you know, bringing more
Speaker 4: people to the game. We around here we're gonna watch
Speaker 4: it regardless. But it always makes me sad during college
Speaker 4: basketball season when I travel and realize, wait a second,
Speaker 4: nobody cares about college basketball like we do. All right,
Speaker 4: quick break, We'll come back on the other side and
Speaker 4: welcome in mister Kent Spencer from Whas eleven.
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