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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers Playoff Baseball is back and with it an annual

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<v Speaker 2>This is Sax and Cakes in.

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<v Speaker 4>The a app Back Forward Proway.

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<v Speaker 2>Dodger legend Steve Sacks is joined by your favorite Dodger

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<v Speaker 2>pregame host Tim Kates. If you want to talk Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 2>get in on the show on eighty six six nine,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven two five seven now. While the Dan Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>Show streams on the Ihearts radio app. We've been banished

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<v Speaker 2>to the Internet until this Dodgers playoff run concludes. Here

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<v Speaker 2>they are broadcasting live on AM five to seven LA Sports.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Tim Kates and Steve Sacks.

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<v Speaker 5>It's Sax and Kate's and AM AM five seventy LA Sports.

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<v Speaker 5>On this Wednesday morning, October twenty third, twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 5>Dodgers and Yankee get ready for Game One of the

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<v Speaker 5>World Series coming up on Friday night. Day Roberts announcing

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<v Speaker 5>that Jack Flaherty will be the Game one starter. Garrett

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<v Speaker 5>Cole out of Orange Lutheran High School in Orange County, UCLA.

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<v Speaker 5>He will go for the New York Yankees first pitch

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<v Speaker 5>on Friday night at Dodgers Stadium is at five eight.

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<v Speaker 5>We got wall to wall covers leading up to Game

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<v Speaker 5>one of the Fall Classic, but certainly emotions tempered last

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<v Speaker 5>night with the news that Fernando Valence Whaleat passed away

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<v Speaker 5>at the age of sixty three here in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 5>A cultural hero, a baseball legend, a man who really

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<v Speaker 5>took Southern California and Los Angeles by storm in nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>eighty one with Fernando Mania, and remains to this day

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<v Speaker 5>a symbol of hope here in Southern California, the American Dream,

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<v Speaker 5>his rise in the nineteen eighties, coming in from Mexico

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<v Speaker 5>to the Dodgers and Fernando Mania. The eighth straight complete games,

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<v Speaker 5>the five shutouts, the eight no start, the Cy Young Award,

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<v Speaker 5>Rookie of the Year, Silverlugger, and World Series Championship in

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen eighty one. A broadcaster for over twenty years for

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<v Speaker 5>Spanish radio here in Los Angeles. He meant so much

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<v Speaker 5>to so many people in Sexy You played with him

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<v Speaker 5>for so many years, got to be behind him at

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<v Speaker 5>second base, which was, I know, a big honor for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it was one of the best honors of

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<v Speaker 3>my career. To play behind such an iconic figure and

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<v Speaker 3>a great person. Fernando was a guy who really transformed

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<v Speaker 3>the whole fan base in Los Angeles with the galvanization

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<v Speaker 3>of the Mexican American community to Chavez Ravine, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>never been done before, and I don't think it may

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<v Speaker 3>not ever be again. The impact that he had and

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<v Speaker 3>how quick it was and how meteoric it was, it

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<v Speaker 3>was just such a shot through the roof what he

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<v Speaker 3>did for baseball and most notably what he did for

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles baseball, for the Dodgers, and as a teammate,

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you he was one of the best

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<v Speaker 3>guys on the club. Always the same guy. He was

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<v Speaker 3>a prankster, you know. He was like a little kid

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes and completely unaffected. And that's the one thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I think I admire most about Fernando is how unaffected

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<v Speaker 3>it was for him, how he just was the same guy,

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<v Speaker 3>win or lose. He was inspirational at the same time

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<v Speaker 3>with his steadfast approach to the game.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just love the guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Loved playing behind him and loved being around him, loved

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<v Speaker 3>being on the bus with them, on the plane, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was always just a fun guy to be around.

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<v Speaker 5>While he's not in the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown,

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<v Speaker 5>New York, he is still a baseball icon, one of

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<v Speaker 5>the Dodger greats, arguably on the Dodgers Mount Rushmore of

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<v Speaker 5>the franchise, and his number was retired in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 5>His number thirty four forever will hang in the Ring

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<v Speaker 5>of Honor at Dodgers Stadium. He is one of only

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<v Speaker 5>two Dodger players to have their number retired and not

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<v Speaker 5>be in the Hall of Fame, Jim Gilliam being the

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<v Speaker 5>other one. He passed away in nineteen seventy eight to

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<v Speaker 5>former Brooklyn Dodger in La Dodger won World Series Championships,

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<v Speaker 5>was a Rookie of the Year back in nineteen fifty three,

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<v Speaker 5>and he passed away, and following his passing in nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>seventy eight, the Dodgers retired his number nineteen and he

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<v Speaker 5>was not a Hall of Fame player, but a Dodger

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<v Speaker 5>great Jim Gilliam and Fernando Valenzuela. In twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 5>the second non Hall of Famer but great Dodger and

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<v Speaker 5>icon himself to have his number retired there at Dodger Stadium,

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<v Speaker 5>and again. I'll remember the fan fest in January twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty three, David Vasse was on stage with Jose Mota,

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<v Speaker 5>and Stan Casten came up and took the mic and

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<v Speaker 5>made the announcement. Surprised Fernando, he was shocked, his family

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<v Speaker 5>was excited, Dodger fans were a static. And then to

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<v Speaker 5>have that weekend there in the twenty twenty three season

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<v Speaker 5>which his number was retired, was certainly cool. To see

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<v Speaker 5>him just looking up at the Ring of Honor and

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<v Speaker 5>to see his number thirty four probably something saxy. He

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<v Speaker 5>never thought he would ever see his number retire.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and isn't it great that they did that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he will ever be in the

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame, but for a guy that's been impactful

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<v Speaker 3>for baseball, you know, in this country, you can certainly

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<v Speaker 3>see how much of an impact he was. And if

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<v Speaker 3>he was in the Hall of Fame, you could understand

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<v Speaker 3>it because that's the kind of impact he had. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's great that the Dodgers did that retiring

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<v Speaker 3>his number. Even though he's not in the Hall, the

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<v Speaker 3>impact he made in this organization can never be underscored.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy was just phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I know, contributors get put into hall of

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<v Speaker 5>fames all the time. In basketball football, they have a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of contributors to get in Jerry Colangelo's of the World.

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<v Speaker 5>Jerry West got in as a contributor as a player

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<v Speaker 5>and as a GM three times into the Hall of

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<v Speaker 5>Fame in the Nasmith Basketball Hall of Fame. The fact

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<v Speaker 5>that Fernando can't get in as a contributor for opening

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<v Speaker 5>the door to Mexico, to South America and beyond to

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<v Speaker 5>the world of baseball, to Los Angeles and what he

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<v Speaker 5>meant with Fernando Mania will never anything like it ever

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<v Speaker 5>ever again in the sport of baseball. Well maybe show

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<v Speaker 5>al Tony, but we'll never see it again. And that

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<v Speaker 5>alone is a contribution to the game of baseball. That

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<v Speaker 5>alone should be something that when you go to Cooperstown,

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<v Speaker 5>New York, as a kid with your family, as a

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<v Speaker 5>baseball fan, to walk around see the greats of baseball,

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<v Speaker 5>you should be able to look at Fernando Valezuela and

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<v Speaker 5>see him say that that guy right there, that guy

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<v Speaker 5>right there was a major part of people's lives and

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<v Speaker 5>change baseball in the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>People are still talking about him. It, you know, in

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<v Speaker 3>the impact that he made. And it doesn't matter how

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<v Speaker 3>old you were. We've heard stories on here just to

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<v Speaker 3>today about grandfathers that you know, Fernando made them cry

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<v Speaker 3>when he had a chance to meet them. Young young

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<v Speaker 3>kids that saw Fernando for the first time were just

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<v Speaker 3>enamored of the way that this guy would pitch. And

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<v Speaker 3>you also heard grandmothers that were you know, would just

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<v Speaker 3>go to baseball a few times, and yet they wondered

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<v Speaker 3>why Fernando wouldn't pitch every day. He was that important

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<v Speaker 3>to the team. And that's the impact. When you talk

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<v Speaker 3>about having an impact, boy, it was so big with him.

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<v Speaker 5>It certainly was. We love all the stories, we love

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<v Speaker 5>all the memories how he impacted your lives, your family's

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<v Speaker 5>lives as well. Let's keep it going. Let's go to

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<v Speaker 5>Daniel and Santa Anna is next up. Wait occasionally, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for being patient, Good morning, it was.

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<v Speaker 7>Worth the way. First of all, is the first time

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<v Speaker 7>talking to you and mister Sacks. And first of all,

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<v Speaker 7>I want to say I'm sorry for mister Sacks.

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<v Speaker 4>I know what.

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<v Speaker 7>Fernando meant to you as a longtime teammate. His one

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<v Speaker 7>two World Series rings with him. So also sorry for

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<v Speaker 7>the people that I've met within the Dodgers organization like

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<v Speaker 7>many Monta, Jim Haren and you know other Dodgers greats

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<v Speaker 7>that or greats within the organization. That that's all Forernando

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<v Speaker 7>Mania grow. And also there wouldn't be Fernando many also

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<v Speaker 7>without Bobby Castille who showed him the screwball growing up

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<v Speaker 7>and my memory of Fernando. But I was privileged to

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<v Speaker 7>work with the Mexican national team during the I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just not still hasn't. This is devastating me. But

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<v Speaker 7>I worked with the Mexican national team during the two

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<v Speaker 7>thousand and nine World Baseball Classic, in which Fernando was

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<v Speaker 7>the fishing coach, and like Stave Sach said, uh, very lighthearted,

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<v Speaker 7>great to it's the humor. I'm really going to miss him.

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<v Speaker 7>I got to see Fernando a few times at the

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<v Speaker 7>stadium a few times more and Dodger Stadium is not

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<v Speaker 7>going to be the same anymore. It's not it's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be a huge void. We're gonna it's gonna it's good.

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<v Speaker 7>This is gonna impact me even more before Game one

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<v Speaker 7>of the World Series, where there's gonna be an homage

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<v Speaker 7>to him, and not not only I'm going to lose it,

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<v Speaker 7>but a lot of Dodger fans will. It will be

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<v Speaker 7>an emotional moment before Game one of that World Series,

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<v Speaker 7>no doubt. So thanks guys for taking my call and

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<v Speaker 7>and take care of you.

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<v Speaker 8>Take care of yourself, all.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, Daniel appreciate that. Yeah, he brought up a great

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<v Speaker 5>point Game one on Friday night. I know the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 5>and the Commissioner Baseball mentioned in a statement last night

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<v Speaker 5>that they plan on an honoring Fernando before Game one

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<v Speaker 5>at Dodgers Stadium. I don't know how they're gonna do it,

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<v Speaker 5>to what capacity or how, but yeah, the Dodger players now,

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<v Speaker 5>not that it falls on their shoulders, but they're now

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<v Speaker 5>representing the Dodgers in this World Series, and they've got

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<v Speaker 5>an entire city. I feel just in the last two

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<v Speaker 5>hours and twelve minutes talking to fans, talking to Usaxy,

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<v Speaker 5>talking to Mike Sosher, We're gonna from Dusty Baker coming

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<v Speaker 5>up in about fifteen minutes. They've got the support, they've

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<v Speaker 5>got Dodger Nation behind them, They've got everybody in Southern California. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>if they weren't already now rallying behind them and wanting

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<v Speaker 5>them to win a World Series for Fernando.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is really does encapitulate, encapsulate everything that you

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<v Speaker 3>could possibly imagine. I mean, with all the people in

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<v Speaker 3>their sentiments pouring out from the terrible loss of Fernando,

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<v Speaker 3>we can maybe turn this into something that can be

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<v Speaker 3>a facilitator for these guys to really get behind this

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<v Speaker 3>team and win it for win it for Fernando or

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<v Speaker 3>Freddy is what we called him, and you know that

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<v Speaker 3>could be a big help for this team.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, right, you guys called him Freddy? Is that just

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<v Speaker 5>a player's thing? I mean, I've never heard that before, Saxy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, we his nickname was Freddie and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the players called him Freddy and just

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<v Speaker 3>made it kind of short instead of going all away Fernando.

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<v Speaker 3>You know how he signed his name too, right, No,

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<v Speaker 3>he signed his name fd oh so he wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>to write the whole thing out and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a long name, so he just put fd O of Valenzuela.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that to sign his name. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 3>Fernando was the best. Freddie was a great guy.

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<v Speaker 5>George in la is next up here on Saxon Kates

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<v Speaker 5>in the am if we remember Fernando Valenzuela and get

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<v Speaker 5>ready for Game one of the Night of the World

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<v Speaker 5>Series on Friday night.

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<v Speaker 9>Hi George, Hey guys, just a real honor. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 9>taking my cost Steve Man, just real quick. You were

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<v Speaker 9>in high school. So it's great to be talking to

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much, Thank you, George.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, Fernando Man, one of the great joys of

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<v Speaker 9>The amount of joy you experienced between the eighty one

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<v Speaker 9>eighty eight, that magical year. I wish every Dodger fan

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<v Speaker 9>could have experienced that because there was nothing like that season.

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<v Speaker 9>And of course, Fernando Mania, I don't think I know

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<v Speaker 9>everyone's gonna got their story, so I'll just be quick,

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<v Speaker 9>but Steve, you touched upon that about the complete games

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<v Speaker 9>in nineteen eighty six.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know a lot of.

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<v Speaker 9>People know this, but in nineteen eighty six, Fernando Velenzuela

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<v Speaker 9>pitched twenty two zero twenty coleet games. That's an insane

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<v Speaker 9>and he didn't get to say you because of Mike

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<v Speaker 9>Scott's no hitter, But that's insane. And you think about

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<v Speaker 9>that today where you got like, you know the pictures,

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<v Speaker 9>Like It's just something that I think needs to be,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, just reflective of Hoon because the amount of

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<v Speaker 9>And it's a sad day, but it's a joyous day

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<v Speaker 9>and it's just really something to take a step back

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<v Speaker 9>and say, hey, look at the guys that have impacted

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<v Speaker 9>talking about Fernando now joining Tommy and Vin. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>It off with the World Series win.

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<v Speaker 9>Anyway, Thank you guys, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>George, appreciate it, George.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just thinking here, Saxony is he talking about

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<v Speaker 5>the numbers and the shutouts and the complete games. We

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<v Speaker 5>think about Hall of Famers and numbers, and that's what

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<v Speaker 5>they're all about, what you do and produce. And for

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<v Speaker 5>now I had those numbers, I wonder if they could

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<v Speaker 5>have been better if he were a pitcher of today.

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<v Speaker 5>Where As George alluded to the five inning millionaires, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>he didn't pitch into the sixth, seventh, eighth innings win

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<v Speaker 5>in which he gave up runs, but the Dodgers would

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<v Speaker 5>win six to four or seven to five, and those

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<v Speaker 5>earned runs hurt his era and certainly hurt his win

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<v Speaker 5>helped his win numbers. But when you pitch less and

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<v Speaker 5>you pitch as dominant as he was, those numbers could

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<v Speaker 5>have been even better and maybe get him into a

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<v Speaker 5>Hall of Fame. But it's a different era, at a

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<v Speaker 5>different time where pitchers were men and went out there

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<v Speaker 5>and pitched nine innings.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim he had one hundred and seventy three wins. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a phenomenal career. And he was not d

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty six, twenty one and eleven with a three fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>He had thirty four starts to Tim and he completed

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<v Speaker 3>twenty of those games, two hundred and sixty nine and

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<v Speaker 3>third innings, he went out there and pitched. That is

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<v Speaker 3>just remarkable. And I'll tell you this, you will not

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<v Speaker 3>see a season like this today. Will not see a

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<v Speaker 3>pitcher put it out there like he did in today's

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<v Speaker 3>In today's game, not gonna happen. Twenty one and eleven

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<v Speaker 3>with twenty complete games, not gonna happen today.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll never see it again. Kevin and la again, thanks

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<v Speaker 5>for being patient. Good morning. You're all with Sax and

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<v Speaker 5>kateson am Kevin, I you doing?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh my god? Hey, hey guys, It's a pleasure to

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<v Speaker 8>talk to you. I grew up in south central LA.

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<v Speaker 8>I went to high school in the eighties when the

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<v Speaker 8>Dodgers would go ahead up with them, Houston Astros, that

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<v Speaker 8>Jose Cruz Jr. With them, guys. You knows Cobell. Come on, guys,

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<v Speaker 8>you know what I'm to Steve, Mister Sachs. I hear

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<v Speaker 8>you're one of my favorite Well, you are one of

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<v Speaker 8>my favorite players. When I watched you play, I just

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<v Speaker 8>recognized the toughness that you had, and that's what I

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<v Speaker 8>know you as. You are one of my favorite players,

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<v Speaker 8>and you're gonna have Dusty On. That's another one of

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<v Speaker 8>my favorites. But I want to touch on real quick, guys,

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<v Speaker 8>on Fernando Venezuela. I've never seen it on the mound,

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<v Speaker 8>lock in with that that hitter and him on that mound,

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<v Speaker 8>and he's not I didn't know he wasn't in the

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<v Speaker 8>Hall of Fame. I'm shocked. I couldn't believe it when

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<v Speaker 8>you said that. But I'll just say this, rest in peace,

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<v Speaker 8>my man. I'm just simply going to say to Fernando,

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<v Speaker 8>thank you, thank you, because you touched my life throughout

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<v Speaker 8>your whole career. When I would see guys when he

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<v Speaker 8>you don't know what you went. You know what you

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<v Speaker 8>got on your back right with that guy. And when

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<v Speaker 8>I found the news, when I woke up, I walked,

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<v Speaker 8>I looked at the news and said, Fernando passed away.

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<v Speaker 8>I got on my knees and said a prayer for

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<v Speaker 8>that man, and tears came down. God bless you, Thank you, Fernando.

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<v Speaker 8>And we'll we'll move on, guys, We'll we'll be all right.

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<v Speaker 8>God bless you, guys. Take care.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciated said it very well, didn't he?

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<v Speaker 6>Wow, thank you, Kevin.

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<v Speaker 5>He touched everybody and said the Alifornia and again, you

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<v Speaker 5>could have been a kid, you could have been a teenager.

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<v Speaker 5>You couldn't have been not even born yet. But family

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<v Speaker 5>told you about him, and he's part of your family

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<v Speaker 5>because of what he meant to your father or your mother,

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<v Speaker 5>or your grandfather or your grandpa or your grandpa, or

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<v Speaker 5>aunt and her uncle. He touched so many people, and

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<v Speaker 5>that just spread for nanomania. Starting in nineteen eighty one,

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<v Speaker 5>a ten year career with the Dodgers broadcaster for two

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<v Speaker 5>plus decades, gone too soon at the age of sixty three.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 5>more of your phone calls between now. On the top

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<v Speaker 5>of the hour. Cannot wait to talk to the great

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<v Speaker 5>Dusty Baker coming up in about ten minutes. It's Steve Sacks,

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<v Speaker 5>Tim Kate's and you on this Wednesday morning here on

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<v Speaker 5>am on this Wednesday morning. Thanks for keeping us with

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<v Speaker 5>you as you make your commute to works, sitting in

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<v Speaker 5>traffic on the freeways heading into the office wherever you're

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<v Speaker 5>heading and taking the kids to school, heading back home.

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<v Speaker 5>We appreciate you keeping us with you here on ANFI

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<v Speaker 5>seventy LA Sports. You're a home of the Dodgers. Game

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<v Speaker 5>one of the World Series is coming up on Friday night.

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<v Speaker 5>But a sad day here in Southern California. Last night

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<v Speaker 5>the news of Fernando Aalenzuala passed away at the age

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<v Speaker 5>of sixty three. He meant so much to so many

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<v Speaker 5>and the memories from all you great Dodger fans and

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<v Speaker 5>listeners here on NFI seventy. We appreciate that. Great to

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<v Speaker 5>catch up with Mike Soosha, who was such a big

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<v Speaker 5>part of Fernando Valenzuela and Fernando mania back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>eighty one in the years after that, of course, manager

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<v Speaker 5>of the Angels. Great to hear from Mike and Dusty

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<v Speaker 5>Baker's coming up in just a couple of minutes. Fernando

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<v Speaker 5>Valenzuela's number retired at that number thirty four back in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty three, just a year ago, so the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 5>able to get that in before he passed away last

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<v Speaker 5>night here in Southern California at the age of sixty three,

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<v Speaker 5>real quickly, Saxy. The Dodgers and Yankees will have their

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<v Speaker 5>media day tomorrow, both teams working out at Dodger Stadium tomorrow. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 5>both teams talked to the media, the Yankees at Yankee Stadium,

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<v Speaker 5>the Dodgers via zoom as they just had some treatment

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<v Speaker 5>and individual workouts yesterday at the stadium. Today they're expected

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<v Speaker 5>to have more workouts at a Dodger Stadium all leading

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<v Speaker 5>up to Game one with Jack Flarity on the mound. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>in Game one, we thought maybe it would be Yoshinobu

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<v Speaker 5>Yama Modo, maybe Walker Buehler, but they decided to go

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<v Speaker 5>with Jack Flarity, who the last time out was Game

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<v Speaker 5>five of the NLCS and kind of a bad, little

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<v Speaker 5>sour taste in the mouth after what that outing was.

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<v Speaker 5>But he'll be out there for Game one. What are

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little surprised that it's Jack, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the last three games that he pitcher in the regular season,

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<v Speaker 3>Zra was in the sixes, so you know, he did

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<v Speaker 3>have one good outing, but the last one was was

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<v Speaker 3>not his best and so we'll wait and see what

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<v Speaker 3>it brings. I think you know, he's gonna be fully rested,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's a good thing. But I did think that

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<v Speaker 3>they were gonna bring Yamamoto. I think he was I

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<v Speaker 3>thought he was gonna be the Game one starter.

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<v Speaker 6>But here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>The Dodgers are gonna be well arrested with the with

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<v Speaker 3>the guys that they had with Bueller following, so I

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<v Speaker 3>think they're gonna be fine in that regard the bullpen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious to see if Vessy is coming back. I

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they're gonna have to make some interesting roster moves

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<v Speaker 5>tomorrow when they submit it for the World Series. Will

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<v Speaker 5>lot of question marks. Some guys are gonna make the

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<v Speaker 5>roster we didn't expect, and it's gonna be interesting to

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<v Speaker 5>tomorrow or on Friday, excuse me for Game one of

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<v Speaker 5>the World Series. Saxy joining us. Now I know a

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<v Speaker 5>friend of yours, a Dodger Icon nineteen seasons in the

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<v Speaker 5>Big Leagues, eight seasons with the Dodgers. During his Dodger tenure,

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<v Speaker 5>a two time All Star, won the Silver Slugger Award,

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<v Speaker 5>a Gold Glove win begin the first NLCS MVP in

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<v Speaker 5>the nineteen seventy seven NLC series. Also made three World

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<v Speaker 5>Series appearances with the Dodgers, a member the nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 5>one Championship team, one of the great managers of all

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<v Speaker 5>time as well winning a World Series with the Houston Astros.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the good guys, and I am so excited

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<v Speaker 5>to talk to him for the very first time. He

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<v Speaker 5>is the one and only the great Dusty Baker, and

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<v Speaker 5>he joins us now here on am FI seventy. Dusty,

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<v Speaker 5>good morning, Good morning.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know about all that great but oh no,

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't dead.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Dusty, we appreciate you joining us this morning, certainly

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about the World Series coming up. In the

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<v Speaker 5>memories of nineteen eighty one, but we find out the

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<v Speaker 5>news last night that Fernando Valenzuela passes away at the

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<v Speaker 5>age of sixty three. Your thoughts on having played with

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<v Speaker 5>them and being a part of that Fernando Mania in

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<v Speaker 4>Well, homie, you know, you know we were all there.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you were a young player, Dan I was

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<v Speaker 4>Fernando coming in as a kid, and everybody was guessing

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<v Speaker 4>that he was older than he was. But he was

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<v Speaker 4>You know, he did kid things like he'd tap you

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<v Speaker 4>Mania was something that we had never seen before, you know,

419
00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:25.000
<v Speaker 4>and uh, and it was real and everywhere we'd go,

420
00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:29.000
<v Speaker 4>uh in every stadium, you know, he would pack the house,

421
00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:34.000
<v Speaker 4>especially with Latin uh you know American people, and uh,

422
00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:37.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, he enjoyed playing the game. He was he

423
00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:40.480
<v Speaker 4>was well beyond his age as far as how to

424
00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:44.079
<v Speaker 4>play the game. Made very few mistakes. You know, he

425
00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:47.400
<v Speaker 4>could do everything except run. You know, he could fun,

426
00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:49.880
<v Speaker 4>he could feel, he could he could hear it, he

427
00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:53.079
<v Speaker 4>could pitch and uh, you know, like we you know,

428
00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:55.319
<v Speaker 4>we loved him, you know, and he added a lot

429
00:21:55.359 --> 00:22:00.480
<v Speaker 4>of joy and uh exuberants and and energy to our team.

430
00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:03.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, Tim, I think you got something wrong when

431
00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:07.119
<v Speaker 3>you said Dusty Baker's a Dodger icon. Dusty is a

432
00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:10.799
<v Speaker 3>baseball icon all over the globe. And I got to

433
00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:12.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, Tim and I you are talking

434
00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:15.200
<v Speaker 3>and I were talking before Dusty came on, and a

435
00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:17.640
<v Speaker 3>little bit about him. And Dusty was always a guy

436
00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:20.000
<v Speaker 3>that one of the guys I looked up to in

437
00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:22.039
<v Speaker 3>my career. He did so much for me as far

438
00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:25.960
<v Speaker 3>as being the best example, and even today, just not

439
00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:28.079
<v Speaker 3>too long ago, Dusty was over at my brother's house

440
00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:31.400
<v Speaker 3>and you know, we were talking and everybody the effect

441
00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:34.440
<v Speaker 3>that he has on people, It didn't matter the guys,

442
00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.400
<v Speaker 3>their husbands, their wives, everybody's sitting there and he's holding

443
00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:41.640
<v Speaker 3>court talking the finer things in baseball. And that's why

444
00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:43.599
<v Speaker 3>Dusky's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer,

445
00:22:43.880 --> 00:22:46.720
<v Speaker 3>no question about it. And I just love him. He's

446
00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:48.559
<v Speaker 3>always like to been a brother to me. So, Dusty,

447
00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:50.440
<v Speaker 3>I am glad to have you on my friend.

448
00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:54.039
<v Speaker 4>Well, hey man, I'm glad to be on. I remember you,

449
00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:58.160
<v Speaker 4>homie at the baseball at the Baseball Bank, was here

450
00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:03.160
<v Speaker 4>in sacer Mil thirteen. Yeah, and then I saw him

451
00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:06.720
<v Speaker 4>in the in the clubhouse and take the truth. I mean,

452
00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:09.279
<v Speaker 4>we love Steve, but as a kid, he was kind

453
00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:11.359
<v Speaker 4>of like a pest a little bit, you know what

454
00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:15.839
<v Speaker 4>I mean. And uh, you know, like he was full

455
00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:18.000
<v Speaker 4>of energy. And then I saw him in the clubhouse

456
00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:22.519
<v Speaker 4>during the Dodger workouts in the winter time. I'm like, man,

457
00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:23.240
<v Speaker 4>what are you doing here?

458
00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:23.400
<v Speaker 11>Man?

459
00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:25.400
<v Speaker 4>They gonna kick you out here? And he goes, no,

460
00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:28.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm a Dodger now, and I'm like, okay, congratulations. But

461
00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:31.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, Steve, you had a great, great career yourself,

462
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:35.160
<v Speaker 4>and you had a you know, you had a definite

463
00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:38.559
<v Speaker 4>effect on our on our team, because very few rookies

464
00:23:38.599 --> 00:23:42.480
<v Speaker 4>come in like you came in and replaced a legend

465
00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:45.680
<v Speaker 4>and Davy Lopes and contributed right away and helped us,

466
00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:48.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, helped us win. So you know, you did

467
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.039
<v Speaker 4>as much for us as as hopefully we did for you.

468
00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:53.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's never forget it. Thank you, Desse. I wanted

469
00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:55.880
<v Speaker 3>to ask you, you know you and I got the

470
00:23:55.880 --> 00:24:00.599
<v Speaker 3>the the great fortune to play behind Fernando and watching

471
00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:04.240
<v Speaker 3>how spectacular that his pinpoint control in his fastball, which

472
00:24:04.279 --> 00:24:07.519
<v Speaker 3>kind of gets overlooked a little bit. Like Socia certainly

473
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.920
<v Speaker 3>pointed that out. But how about just how unbelievable that

474
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:14.079
<v Speaker 3>that the screwball was, the ability to change speeds on it,

475
00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:16.440
<v Speaker 3>and from being right behind him, to me, it almost

476
00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:19.119
<v Speaker 3>looked like a right handed curveball. This thing was wicked.

477
00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:21.279
<v Speaker 3>So what was your assessment?

478
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:25.680
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, he split the plate went, screwball went

479
00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:28.519
<v Speaker 4>one way, his breaking ball went the other way, and

480
00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:31.160
<v Speaker 4>then he could throw that fastball almost damn near down

481
00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:33.160
<v Speaker 4>the middle of the plate, but he would pinpoint it

482
00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:37.680
<v Speaker 4>up down center Rount. And I've used Fernando with some

483
00:24:37.720 --> 00:24:40.799
<v Speaker 4>of my young pictures. Anybody that peels the you know,

484
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:43.720
<v Speaker 4>the strike zone like you do with banana, I mean

485
00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:46.160
<v Speaker 4>you can't look one side of the plate. Yeah, And

486
00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:49.079
<v Speaker 4>with that, and he had a good fastball. Everybody was

487
00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:52.079
<v Speaker 4>so conscious of his, of his of his screwball. But

488
00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:56.039
<v Speaker 4>the thing that I remember most probably about Fernando was

489
00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:01.079
<v Speaker 4>that he had total recall of every situation. And uh,

490
00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:05.279
<v Speaker 4>I was very surprised. I remember Andre Dalphin hit a

491
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:08.240
<v Speaker 4>home run off of him in April. And then we

492
00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:11.079
<v Speaker 4>got to and and Karen taught us about recall. You know,

493
00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:13.359
<v Speaker 4>they weren't any iPad that you go to to see

494
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:16.960
<v Speaker 4>the guy throws or ally reports you had to remember

495
00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:20.160
<v Speaker 4>on your own. And and though even though he was

496
00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:25.720
<v Speaker 4>he was really young. Uh he he threw Andre dawphin

497
00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:28.960
<v Speaker 4>the opposite pitch that he hit out in April, and

498
00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:31.720
<v Speaker 4>this was August. And I went to him and said, hey, man,

499
00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:35.519
<v Speaker 4>I said, you pretty smart. Her I says, you know,

500
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:37.920
<v Speaker 4>you remember that he hit this pitch out of the ballpark.

501
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:40.359
<v Speaker 4>He said, yeah, I remember, and I believed he is

502
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:43.799
<v Speaker 4>out of the ballpark. And so that showed me right then.

503
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.359
<v Speaker 4>You know that his baseball, you know, i Q was

504
00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:50.279
<v Speaker 4>off the you know, was off the charts. But you know,

505
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:54.240
<v Speaker 4>we love playing behind Fernando, and Fernando also taught me

506
00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:57.839
<v Speaker 4>him and Sutton taught me John that that your acts

507
00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:01.880
<v Speaker 4>don't get many runs. And you notice that in the

508
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:05.359
<v Speaker 4>playoffs and stuff, because whoever's pitching against your aces, they're

509
00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:07.680
<v Speaker 4>going to pitch their very best game because if they

510
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:10.359
<v Speaker 4>give up one or two runs early, that could be

511
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:13.440
<v Speaker 4>the game. And you know, we have to get letters

512
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.880
<v Speaker 4>sometime that we didn't like Fernando because we didn't get

513
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:19.039
<v Speaker 4>him any runs. But whoever's pitching against him is going

514
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:21.920
<v Speaker 4>to pitch, you know, pitch his best. And the thing

515
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:25.799
<v Speaker 4>about Fernando also, man, it had been tough to take

516
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:27.759
<v Speaker 4>him out like now on the fifth or sixth inning,

517
00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:30.519
<v Speaker 4>because this guy, we didn't have to hit for him

518
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.119
<v Speaker 4>when the pitcher's hit. You know, he would stay in

519
00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:36.400
<v Speaker 4>the game and damn there every every game until seven

520
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:39.119
<v Speaker 4>to nine innings, So you know, he was a workhorse.

521
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:41.319
<v Speaker 5>The great Dusty Baker with us here on an five

522
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:44.160
<v Speaker 5>seventy LA Sports Tim Kate Steve Sacks here on the

523
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:45.119
<v Speaker 5>Home of the Dodgers.

524
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:45.799
<v Speaker 3>Dusty.

525
00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:49.160
<v Speaker 5>One final thing about the Fernando Mania in nineteen eighty

526
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.240
<v Speaker 5>one for me is that being in it and seeing

527
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.759
<v Speaker 5>the consecutive complete games start to pile up, eight in

528
00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:59.400
<v Speaker 5>a row, the five shutouts during that stretch, and Fernando

529
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:02.839
<v Speaker 5>Mania just growing like a wave and a swell of

530
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:06.279
<v Speaker 5>momentum from LA to across the country and everywhere you

531
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:10.599
<v Speaker 5>guys went. Were you guys, did you understand the Fernando

532
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:13.000
<v Speaker 5>Mania in the moment Wallow was happening.

533
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, we understood it, I mean, and you know,

534
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:19.240
<v Speaker 4>some guys didn't even make a joke about it because

535
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.319
<v Speaker 4>there were no very few blonde people in the stands there.

536
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 4>They're mostly dark haired last people everywhere we went, whether

537
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:32.519
<v Speaker 4>they're from mel Salvador, Guatemala, Mexico, Venezuela, Puerto Rico. I mean,

538
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:35.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, he was the pride, you know, the pride

539
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 4>of you know, Latin America. But I think I think

540
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Speaker 4>those what helped Fernando that year. Also, which hurt baseball

541
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 4>was the fact that we had a strike of fifty

542
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 4>days and it gave Fernando and some of the other

543
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:52.480
<v Speaker 4>picture as long as they stayed in shape, they gave

544
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 4>Fernando a chance to kind of you know, regroup and

545
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:59.440
<v Speaker 4>get his you know, keep his armstrong. And the thing

546
00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:02.119
<v Speaker 4>about that team is that we had to come back

547
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:06.519
<v Speaker 4>in every series, you know, to win. And you know,

548
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:10.160
<v Speaker 4>to me, that wasn't our very best team. I think

549
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:13.279
<v Speaker 4>our very best team, but seventy seven maybe, and maybe

550
00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:16.240
<v Speaker 4>seventy eight, but it was a team that that you know,

551
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:20.039
<v Speaker 4>had a lot of heart. You know, we also, you know,

552
00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:23.200
<v Speaker 4>had a lot of desire to win, especially after we

553
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:27.160
<v Speaker 4>had lost to the Yankees, you know, two other times

554
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 4>in seventy seven and seventy eight. And I've seen people

555
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.599
<v Speaker 4>in New York and they're they're they're getting on me

556
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.039
<v Speaker 4>because we beat them in eighty one. And I think

557
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.640
<v Speaker 4>that I'm like, wait a minute, now, I know, I

558
00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:41.160
<v Speaker 4>know you Yankees are good, but you we can win

559
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.119
<v Speaker 4>sometimes you don't have to win all the time. So

560
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:48.680
<v Speaker 4>so that's probably it's going to be a good series.

561
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:52.119
<v Speaker 4>But I'm predicting as Dodgers in six.

562
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:55.240
<v Speaker 3>Yep, that's what I'm predicting, Ducky Dusty. And I know

563
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:58.279
<v Speaker 3>that I wasn't supposed to say, but that's my exact

564
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:01.440
<v Speaker 3>sentiments to Dusty. Last one for me, I wanted to

565
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:06.440
<v Speaker 3>say that I felt that that Fernando's screwball almost overshadowed

566
00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:08.920
<v Speaker 3>so many the other great things that he did because

567
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:11.400
<v Speaker 3>people talk about his screwball so much, but you know,

568
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 3>you pointed out how good his fastball was. He can

569
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:16.519
<v Speaker 3>pinpoint that fastball, how great of a hitter he was,

570
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:18.039
<v Speaker 3>and the fact that you didn't have to pinch it

571
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 3>for him late in the games you could save your bench,

572
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 3>and the fact that you know, this is a guy

573
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:24.359
<v Speaker 3>that not only won the Silver Slugger Award, but he

574
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:26.839
<v Speaker 3>also was a gold glover, able to bounce off the

575
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 3>mound even with his body not exactly as felt as

576
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 3>you'd like, but it certainly worked for him. And this

577
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.960
<v Speaker 3>guy was just an all around really superb athlete.

578
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 4>Yes he was. I mean, I'm telling you and you know,

579
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:44.119
<v Speaker 4>I've used Fernando and and like I said, my manager

580
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:48.000
<v Speaker 4>your career, because remember the year we made Fernando, well

581
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:49.920
<v Speaker 4>they made Fernando lose weight sex.

582
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how bad that was that?

583
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, And so we were we were sneaking food

584
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:58.960
<v Speaker 4>in the back and then giving him candy eat man,

585
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:04.440
<v Speaker 4>gain your weight back. Yeah, because everybody cannot play finn

586
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 4>You know, some guys are are athletes in a in

587
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.920
<v Speaker 4>a kind of an overweight looking body. When you got

588
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:17.920
<v Speaker 4>like Levan Hernandez, you got Rick Russell, you Gotny Mickey

589
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:21.559
<v Speaker 4>Lolich and now Fernando, So you know, like he taught

590
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:23.599
<v Speaker 4>you know, he taught me a lot of things that

591
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:27.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm using, you know throughout my you know career as

592
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.880
<v Speaker 4>coaching and managing and just being around young players.

593
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:35.000
<v Speaker 5>Dusty sixty sixty years, I mean six decades in baseball

594
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:37.200
<v Speaker 5>as a player and as a coach and a manager,

595
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.440
<v Speaker 5>the Giants, Cubs, Reds, Nationals, Astros a World Series championship.

596
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 5>You've seen the elevation of baseball here and it's changing.

597
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.079
<v Speaker 5>And you mentioned the iPads earlier and the scouting reports,

598
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:51.160
<v Speaker 5>and through it all you continue to win and be

599
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:54.599
<v Speaker 5>successful at managing. When you see the game where it's

600
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:57.480
<v Speaker 5>at right now, with how complex it is and analytics

601
00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.079
<v Speaker 5>and the binders they must give you before the game,

602
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:02.880
<v Speaker 5>and you wanted to coach from your gut, how are

603
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 5>you able to balance it? How are you able to

604
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.119
<v Speaker 5>to kind of cross over all these decades of baseball

605
00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 5>and how the games changed, yet still be the great

606
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.799
<v Speaker 5>Dusty Baker and be the great manager you are.

607
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, you have to make certain adjustments to

608
00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:20.359
<v Speaker 4>the time. But you know, I think people say I

609
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 4>managed with my gut, Well, I also manage with my brain,

610
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.759
<v Speaker 4>you know, because I they were always something there that

611
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 4>I could use, you know, in the the media notes

612
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.599
<v Speaker 4>that they bring out every day. I was studying them then,

613
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.400
<v Speaker 4>like who has a bad hand, who's hot, who's cold?

614
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, first batter efficiency out of the bullpen, or

615
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.279
<v Speaker 4>you know which guys are first pitch strikes, or or

616
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.240
<v Speaker 4>whoever tows up the most double plays. So you know,

617
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:53.079
<v Speaker 4>I was using as much information as I could without

618
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:57.119
<v Speaker 4>overloading myself or overloading you know, the players, because you

619
00:31:57.160 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 4>know Ted Williams said, above all, you got to be natural,

620
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 4>but you know, very few great, great players are out

621
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:07.599
<v Speaker 4>there just on a match, because everybody out there was

622
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:11.079
<v Speaker 4>great where they came from. But it's the smart players

623
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 4>that possible over a long period of time, and so

624
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:18.839
<v Speaker 4>you just have to try to try to decipher what

625
00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 4>information that you can use, what information you know you

626
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 4>don't use. But as a manager and as a person,

627
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 4>the worst situation and spot for me was to feel

628
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<v Speaker 4>that I wasn't prepared to go into a game. I mean,

629
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<v Speaker 4>I hate being unprepared. That's why I get there early.

630
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<v Speaker 4>That's why I study, and I make notes, and I've

631
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.119
<v Speaker 4>been making notes forever. Whether I use them or not,

632
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:46.720
<v Speaker 4>I have them, and if I write them down, usually

633
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 4>I don't have to go back to them, because I

634
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:50.920
<v Speaker 4>not that I have total recall. But if I write

635
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.240
<v Speaker 4>something down, you know, I usually have it in my

636
00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 4>brain and I can call up on it when I

637
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:58.240
<v Speaker 4>use it, or call up on things like Hank Aaron

638
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.720
<v Speaker 4>taught me, or Sandy Kofax or whoever. So I try

639
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:06.240
<v Speaker 4>to encompass everything that's happened and happened in my life

640
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 4>and in my career.

641
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:11.400
<v Speaker 5>The great Dusty Baker, future Hall of Famer, with out

642
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:13.559
<v Speaker 5>of doubt as a player and as a manager. We

643
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:17.039
<v Speaker 5>certainly appreciate the time this morning, Dusty talking about Fernando

644
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:18.880
<v Speaker 5>as we get ready for this game one of the

645
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:22.079
<v Speaker 5>ninth of the twenty twenty four World Series, we reflect

646
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:24.599
<v Speaker 5>on the nineteen eighty one World Series Dodgers and Yankees.

647
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<v Speaker 5>We really appreciate the time this morning and joining us.

648
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:29.839
<v Speaker 4>Oh exactly, so you right at homeboy, A nice time

649
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:30.920
<v Speaker 4>to be a guy, all right.

650
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.200
<v Speaker 5>There he goes the great Dusty Baker.

651
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 6>He's the best.

652
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.240
<v Speaker 3>That was fun, the best. He is always the same guy,

653
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:42.480
<v Speaker 3>just the best. I'm telling you. The other day he's

654
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.759
<v Speaker 3>over at my brother's house across the street, and my

655
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:48.920
<v Speaker 3>whole family was over there. We're having a little celebration

656
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.440
<v Speaker 3>for a birthday, and Dusty and my our friend Mike

657
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:56.920
<v Speaker 3>come over and he was absolutely captivating the whole crowd

658
00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.000
<v Speaker 3>that was there. You were sitting on the couch, everybody

659
00:33:59.039 --> 00:33:59.680
<v Speaker 3>was around him.

660
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.920
<v Speaker 6>He was talking baseball, he was talking philosophy, he was

661
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.160
<v Speaker 6>talking about life, and he is just such a wealth

662
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 6>of knowledge, so bright and just got so much wealth.

663
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there were kids, there were kids eleven twelve

664
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 3>years old, my brother's grandkids, and they were just watching

665
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.159
<v Speaker 3>him with their jaw open listening to Dusty talk. They

666
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 3>couldn't believe that Dusty Baker was in the house and

667
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 3>talking and just captivating, so charismatic and just the best guy.

668
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:33.039
<v Speaker 5>By the way, he's doing a great job on TBS.

669
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.639
<v Speaker 3>He does a great he's such a good communicator, and

670
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:39.199
<v Speaker 3>this is a first ballot Hall of Famer, no question.

671
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 5>Without a doubt. That was great to talk to Dusty Baker.

672
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:44.159
<v Speaker 5>Thank you SAXI for helping make that work out. Coming up,

673
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Speaker 5>we'll get a final sweep of the phone calls. May

674
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:48.519
<v Speaker 5>not be able to get to everybody, but we'll certainly

675
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 5>get to you if we can. We appreciate all the

676
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:54.320
<v Speaker 5>calls this morning, a tough morning in Los Angeles or

677
00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:58.800
<v Speaker 5>Dodger fans remembering Fernando Venezuela gone too young at the

678
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.320
<v Speaker 5>age of sixty three passing last night. Thanks to all

679
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:03.599
<v Speaker 5>the memories and sharing the stories of what he meant

680
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:05.320
<v Speaker 5>to you. We'll get to that when we come back

681
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.639
<v Speaker 5>more with Saxon Kate's and am here on NI seventy

682
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 5>l I Sports. Saxon Kates and am here on FI

683
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:40.559
<v Speaker 5>seventy LA Sports. Thank you to Dusty Baker for coming

684
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 5>on this morning, the players, you know, the players you

685
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:47.039
<v Speaker 5>played with, the people you know in the world of baseball, Saxy,

686
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:48.920
<v Speaker 5>you know how lucky you are to know all these people.

687
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm so blessed. The Lord has blessed me more

688
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 3>than I can ever imagine. I mean, it's incredible that

689
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.480
<v Speaker 3>I got to be with these people, and that I

690
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:02.960
<v Speaker 3>played for, you know, the Dodgers, and got to play

691
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:07.440
<v Speaker 3>with Fernando Velanzuela, I got Dusty Baker's my friend. I'm

692
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 3>I'm beyond blessed.

693
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 5>Will you remember Fernando this morning? Passing away last night

694
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:17.760
<v Speaker 5>at the age of sixty three. The Dodgers will recognize him,

695
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:20.920
<v Speaker 5>Baseball will honor him before Game one of the World Series,

696
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:24.159
<v Speaker 5>which is Friday night, first pitch at five eight. Lorenzo

697
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:26.039
<v Speaker 5>and Monterey Park. Thanks for being patient, Lorenzo.

698
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:26.440
<v Speaker 3>How are you?

699
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 12>I'm fine?

700
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:28.199
<v Speaker 4>Thank you?

701
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:29.079
<v Speaker 10>How are you good?

702
00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:31.000
<v Speaker 12>Excellent?

703
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:32.239
<v Speaker 4>Good morning?

704
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:36.559
<v Speaker 12>Gentlemen, Steve so big Fan, thanks and Mario Hustle. You

705
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 12>go on show BATTLESO the first day though, I'm joking, gentlemen,

706
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:43.519
<v Speaker 12>Fernando big Fan. I was a sixteen seventy year old

707
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.239
<v Speaker 12>kid growing up in Nicking Heights, which is a couple

708
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 12>of miles away from Dodger Stadium, wasn't a great baseball fan.

709
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 12>I watched the seventy six thirty seven World Series. I'll

710
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.280
<v Speaker 12>tell you what he meant to a young Mexican kid

711
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 12>like myself. He got me hooked, and to this day

712
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.000
<v Speaker 12>I want to thank him for making me a Dodge

713
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:03.320
<v Speaker 12>your fan, not just a Fernando fan, but and the

714
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.280
<v Speaker 12>lifetime Dodger fan. I think that's what those Tommy.

715
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 1>Is doing now with Japanese the community.

716
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:09.800
<v Speaker 12>You know, he's beginning of a book, and once they're

717
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:11.960
<v Speaker 12>long gone, we're still here for for for the rest

718
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:12.440
<v Speaker 12>of our life.

719
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>So for that, I admire him. Also, I don't know

720
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 1>if you guys remember it, but whenever he would pitch

721
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the most common pitch when you have a picture down

722
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>oh and two, you don't don't you don't give anything

723
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 1>good to hit.

724
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:26.159
<v Speaker 12>You know, you go outside, up, high, down low.

725
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Fernando would always catch him looking, which which is one

726
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:30.840
<v Speaker 1>of the things that I was noticed as a kid.

727
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I watched pitch per pitch and oh and two you

728
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>never throw it down the pipe, and he would do that,

729
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.079
<v Speaker 1>something I've never seen a picture do before or after.

730
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:40.719
<v Speaker 12>So I mean that's one.

731
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Thing that that that that that that overwhelmed means the

732
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:45.280
<v Speaker 1>fact that he had the audacity to go right down.

733
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 12>The middle on an old two account, which is normally

734
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:48.519
<v Speaker 12>they don't.

735
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 5>Is that sax That's thing? Thank thanks, Lorenzo, appreciate that

736
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 5>phone call. Is that taxing because he had hitters off

737
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:57.039
<v Speaker 5>off balance and guessing to what he was going to throw,

738
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 5>maybe the thinking the screwballs coming on a two one

739
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:02.000
<v Speaker 5>to account, and boom there comes a fastball.

740
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Very good tim That's exactly what it was. And you

741
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.639
<v Speaker 3>know he probably wasn't trying to throw it down down

742
00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 3>the middle, like Lorenzo said. However, it worked because they

743
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:14.159
<v Speaker 3>were looking for that other pitch and most of the time,

744
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.360
<v Speaker 3>as Dusty said, Fernando was able to and Mike Sosh

745
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:20.559
<v Speaker 3>as well that Fernando was able to just paint the

746
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:23.639
<v Speaker 3>corners of his fastball. His fastball today, if there was

747
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:27.639
<v Speaker 3>being clocked, would be ninety five to ninety seven in

748
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.320
<v Speaker 3>today's market, in today's fastball. When he was pitching it

749
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.960
<v Speaker 3>was ninety two ninety three. He was ninety five ninety

750
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:36.039
<v Speaker 3>seven today, and it was right where he wanted it

751
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:40.360
<v Speaker 3>to be. And it was accompanied by that unbelievable screwball.

752
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:42.039
<v Speaker 3>And he had a curveball too. Fernando had a good

753
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.679
<v Speaker 3>curveball that he would throw like Jerry Royce talked about.

754
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.679
<v Speaker 3>Remember when Jerry Royce was talking about you know, when

755
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 3>he would throw it just to show it to people.

756
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.000
<v Speaker 3>That's what Fernando would do with his curveball. But it

757
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 3>was mostly fastball and variances of different versions of that screwball.

758
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:00.519
<v Speaker 5>Nick, and Irvine's been waiting way too long. Thank you

759
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:01.840
<v Speaker 5>Nick for being patient. Good morning.

760
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.760
<v Speaker 10>Oh well, it's great. I'm at work. I'm listening to

761
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:12.280
<v Speaker 10>you guys. Thanks. Thanks for this today and through the playoffs. Listen,

762
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 10>that last call was perfect. A lot of people under

763
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 10>the age of seventy don't remember, but Chavez Ravine was

764
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:21.960
<v Speaker 10>where the parking lot is and where Dodger Stadium is

765
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 10>was full of houses and families, and those neighborhoods were

766
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 10>primarily Spanish speaking in Los Angeles because remember Los Angeles,

767
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.840
<v Speaker 10>this is part of Mexico before it's part of the

768
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:38.880
<v Speaker 10>United States. And a lot of people in Los Angeles

769
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.559
<v Speaker 10>had some very very hard feelings about the Dodgers because

770
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:46.559
<v Speaker 10>the government came in and took every single house by

771
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.920
<v Speaker 10>eminent domain, and in the sixties and seventies, it was

772
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.159
<v Speaker 10>not cool to root for the Dodger. As a matter

773
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.239
<v Speaker 10>of fact, a lot of people in LA, especially the

774
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:59.119
<v Speaker 10>Spanish speakers, rooted against them because of that. And what

775
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 10>Fernando did when he came in is he unwittingly, unknowingly

776
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:11.559
<v Speaker 10>made it okay to root for the Dodgers, for everybody

777
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.719
<v Speaker 10>in LA to root for the Dodgers. Now, listen, the

778
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:18.800
<v Speaker 10>Dodgers are the most historical franchise in all of sports

779
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:22.599
<v Speaker 10>because of Brooklyn's Jackie Robinson and also because of Fernando

780
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 10>and Los Angeles. He truly was transformative, not just because

781
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:32.519
<v Speaker 10>of baseball, but because people could take part in the

782
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 10>heart and soul and the heritage and the history of

783
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:39.679
<v Speaker 10>not just being a Dodger fan, but being a fan

784
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.800
<v Speaker 10>and part of Los Angeles culture in Toto, not being

785
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:47.880
<v Speaker 10>excluded and not feeling and in my opinion, rightfully so,

786
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:49.440
<v Speaker 10>that they had kind of gotten screwed over.

787
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:53.079
<v Speaker 11>So Fernando, he also got on TV and despite being

788
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:54.920
<v Speaker 11>able to speak English, he spoke.

789
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:56.239
<v Speaker 10>Spanish on TV.

790
00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:01.480
<v Speaker 11>And he was a great hitter, he was a great fielder,

791
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 11>he was he looked to God every time he pitched,

792
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:09.320
<v Speaker 11>and I tell you what testament to him by all

793
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:11.280
<v Speaker 11>these calls today and rest no.

794
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:13.519
<v Speaker 5>Doubt, Nick, appreciate it. Appreciate it, don't dig. Do mean

795
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 5>to cut you off, but we gotta go, Saxy. It's

796
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:17.400
<v Speaker 5>been a great morning. We'll do it again tomorrow. We'll

797
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.519
<v Speaker 5>continue to remember for Nando'll get you ready for Game one

798
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:22.440
<v Speaker 5>of the World Series. Thanks to Katie, Thanks to Michelle,

799
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:24.920
<v Speaker 5>Thanks everybody being a part of the show, Great Memories.

800
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 5>You can podcast it on a Fi seventy LA Sports

801
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:30.320
<v Speaker 5>on the iHeartRadio app. Colin Cowhard coming up next.
