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Speaker 5: All welcome back truthseekers from around the world. It's time
Speaker 5: for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. I'm
Speaker 5: your host, as always, George Hobbs. We are recording on
Speaker 5: this Thursday evening, June twenty six, twenty twenty five. I
Speaker 5: hope everybody is doing well. We have a guest standing
Speaker 5: by Brett and he'll join us in just a second.
Speaker 5: Two quick notes before we get started. First, up by
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Speaker 5: and a time. That is good for the both of us,
Speaker 5: and without any further ado, we're going to bring on
Speaker 5: our guests for this evening. His name is Brett. Brett.
Speaker 5: Thanks so much for taking the time to join us tonight.
Speaker 1: How are you, brother, Oh, I'll do good, George, Thank
Speaker 1: you for having me. I've been a been a fan
Speaker 1: of your show now for about probably two years. Came
Speaker 1: across it and just got hooked instantly. Basically Binge listened
Speaker 1: to it every single day. And then last summer took
Speaker 1: a family vacation out to Colorado and my wife and daughter.
Speaker 1: They flew and I drove, and on the way there,
Speaker 1: I listened to your show no stop. I just went
Speaker 1: on the show, hit play and listened to every single
Speaker 1: episode I could for the eight hour drive there and
Speaker 1: the eight hour drive back.
Speaker 6: So and finally got caught up.
Speaker 1: And then I was a little sad when I caught
Speaker 1: up because then I had to wait a week for
Speaker 1: a new show to come out.
Speaker 5: Oh that's awesome. And I'll tell you what, I don't
Speaker 5: know what part of Colorado you went to. I really
Speaker 5: missed Colorado. We we physically lived there for seven years,
Speaker 5: but I was gone for probably four to four and
Speaker 5: a half of those years. But I really enjoyed living
Speaker 5: so beautiful there. And because of you know, we lived
Speaker 5: in Colorado Springs that was probably forty five hundred feet
Speaker 5: There wasn't a lot of bugs, cool nights, you know
Speaker 5: that you didn't have to run the air conditioner too much.
Speaker 5: I really enjoyed my time there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we we've got out there.
Speaker 1: I've been there quite a few times in my life,
Speaker 1: and my wife and I have been out there quite
Speaker 1: a few times.
Speaker 6: I got a lot of my family lives out there.
Speaker 1: They lived in some of them live in Denver and
Speaker 1: some of them live up in the mountains in like Georgetown,
Speaker 1: Frisco area.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 6: And then for the vacation, we went to Grand Lake Nice. Yep.
Speaker 1: It was it's just like you said, it's it's breathtakingly
Speaker 1: beautiful out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it really is. Well, let's let's jump into it.
Speaker 5: Why don't you kind of I know you've got quite
Speaker 5: the story, and I think, yeah, we spoke about two
Speaker 5: years ago, right.
Speaker 1: And uh, I email, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yep, and we've come full circle and we're here tonight.
Speaker 5: And I'm very thankful by the way that our listeners
Speaker 5: have been flexible this week, both the interviews or three
Speaker 5: interviews we had scheduled for this week. Between my my
Speaker 5: dog's surgery and school and appointments, it's just been a
Speaker 5: crazy week. But I'm very thankful that we've been able
Speaker 5: to know, and.
Speaker 1: I'm thankful I was able to get on. Sorry, when
Speaker 1: we had tried a couple of weeks ago. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: getting sick and you know that fell through. My daughter
Speaker 1: was came down with something, and then my wife got it,
Speaker 1: and then a couple of days later I got it,
Speaker 1: so kind of spread it spread through the house a
Speaker 1: little bit, so to say, there you go.
Speaker 5: You look and sound healthy. So I'm thankful that you've
Speaker 5: you all have overcame that. But yeah, by all means,
Speaker 5: please take the time and talk to us about your journey.
Speaker 1: Sure. My name is Brett from Iowa, Central Iowa. I
Speaker 1: was actually born here, but moved around a lot when
Speaker 1: I was younger. My mom and dad they divorced shortly
Speaker 1: after I was born. Then my mom and I moved
Speaker 1: to Schomberg, Illinois. I don't remember it at all, I
Speaker 1: was too young. And then from there we moved to Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. Or I should say Western Virginia, which is
Speaker 1: basically the DC area, it's not too far away. Lived
Speaker 1: there for a few years, and then we lived moved
Speaker 1: to Hawaii, lived on Oahu for a few years, and
Speaker 1: then ended up back in Council Bluffs, Iowa. That's where
Speaker 1: my mom was born. She has a pretty good sized family.
Speaker 1: She has four brothers and four sisters. We were actually
Speaker 1: headed back to the DC area for her job and
Speaker 1: we stopped to visit family, and she decided been away
Speaker 1: from you guys too long. She ended up quitting her
Speaker 1: job and we ended up staying in Council Bluffs and
Speaker 1: that's where I went to high school at.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, it's been quite a journey.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd be interesting. Do you ever think about how
Speaker 5: things would turn out if you grew up in the
Speaker 5: DC area.
Speaker 1: I remember a good portion of it because I was
Speaker 1: probably it was probably fifth grade. I'd say probably about fourth, third,
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth grade. I lived there, and I remember
Speaker 1: we took a lot of field trips to d C.
Speaker 1: So we would go to you know, the Aerospace Museum
Speaker 1: and the National History Museums and.
Speaker 6: You know, all the monuments and whatnot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, it's been a pretty crazy ride. But
Speaker 1: doing all that moving around made my childhood difficult, to
Speaker 1: say the least, because like I probably went to three
Speaker 1: at least three elementary schools, two different junior highs, and
Speaker 1: ended up going to three different high schools. So education
Speaker 1: came tough because I was always trying to fit in,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to be accepted.
Speaker 6: So to speak.
Speaker 1: And so when I was younger, I was a product
Speaker 1: of the eighties, and they put me on Ridland because
Speaker 1: they said I had a d D and ended up
Speaker 1: getting put on Ridland, and I was putting special ed classes,
Speaker 1: which made junior high and high school extremely tough because
Speaker 1: you know how kids are at that age, And I
Speaker 1: would spend a good portion of the day in the
Speaker 1: special ed classes and then I would go out to
Speaker 1: the regular classes. But I was in the classroom for
Speaker 1: the good part of the day with kids who had,
Speaker 1: you know, real disabilities, so to speak. And so you know,
Speaker 1: of course, getting teased all the time and getting bullied
Speaker 1: all the time, and kind of went down the wrong
Speaker 1: path because the kids that ended up accepting you were
Speaker 1: probably kids you wouldn't want your kids hanging out with.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't say I was a big trouble maker,
Speaker 1: but I hung out with a lot of troublemakers, and
Speaker 1: through the grace of God, you know, thankfully, I was
Speaker 1: able to stay out of trouble for the most part.
Speaker 1: You know, I did my fair share of getting into
Speaker 1: a little bit of trouble here and there, but things
Speaker 1: could have been a lot worse with the situation that
Speaker 1: I was in, for sure.
Speaker 5: So that's you know, education, I've said this many times,
Speaker 5: not just education, but they always have to put a
Speaker 5: label on something. And you know, a teenage boy having
Speaker 5: to sit in a chair all day, you know, well,
Speaker 5: he's tapping his feet all day. It's because the teachers
Speaker 5: not really challenging them, not giving them, like the critical
Speaker 5: thinking type of things to get them energized and involved
Speaker 5: in these type of educations. And again, have so many
Speaker 5: great teachers, unfortunately many of them are handcuffed by the
Speaker 5: system that they work in. For me, you know, I
Speaker 5: had the same excitement graduating from high school as I
Speaker 5: did getting my DD two fourteen. The day I retired
Speaker 5: from the military, I felt free. But now that I'm older,
Speaker 5: I do have a yearning for learning, and you know,
Speaker 5: I'm kind of back in an education system, and you know,
Speaker 5: I look at it differently and obviously, I'm not locked
Speaker 5: in a seat eight hours a day, you know, going
Speaker 5: through bell rings moves at forty five minutes, bell rings move,
Speaker 5: you know that that whole system, and we all have
Speaker 5: the hindsight twenty twenty, right, you know. I wish I
Speaker 5: would have paid more attention and done this and that,
Speaker 5: but I mostly for the most part, let that go
Speaker 5: because that doesn't affect our future. And we can't change
Speaker 5: what we've done in the past, but we can certainly
Speaker 5: focus on today in the future.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And it's different when you're wanting to learn something
Speaker 1: that you have an interest in.
Speaker 6: For sure.
Speaker 1: When something I kind of skipped over is when I
Speaker 1: was in high school. Like I said, it was just
Speaker 1: me and my mom growing up. When I was growing up,
Speaker 1: we moved back to Council Bluffs. She hadn't met up
Speaker 1: with her high school sweetheart and they ended up getting
Speaker 1: married and he turned out to be real abusive, and
Speaker 1: I guess growing up I didn't notice, but looking back,
Speaker 1: I can see all the signs now. But my mom
Speaker 1: was diagnosed with severe depression and bipolar and so I
Speaker 1: think I was a sophomore in high school the first
Speaker 1: time she had attempted suicide. And I remember I was
Speaker 1: over at my girlfriend's house half the time, we were
Speaker 1: hanging out downstairs.
Speaker 6: Her parents came down and said, we need you to
Speaker 6: come upstairs. We need to tell you something.
Speaker 1: And they told me that my mom was in the hospital,
Speaker 1: and so they took me to the hospital and I
Speaker 1: got to see my mom for a little bit, and
Speaker 1: then she ended up going somewhere out in Colorado for
Speaker 1: it was a mental don't want to say institution, but
Speaker 1: some kind of mental hospital that she went there for
Speaker 1: several months. And I remember them trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what they were going to do with me, and.
Speaker 6: They asked me, what do you want to do?
Speaker 1: Well, at that time, the only thing I cared about was,
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to stay close to my friends.
Speaker 1: So I ended up staying with my stepdad at the time,
Speaker 1: and shortly after that he kicked me out, so I
Speaker 1: ended up go live in at different friend's house, staying
Speaker 1: after couch is still trying to go through high school
Speaker 1: doing all that and work in and then so I
Speaker 1: was probably late fifteen, early sixteens when that happened. Then
Speaker 1: when I was about seventeen eighteen years old, my mom
Speaker 1: she moved back to Iowa and moved to Des Moines.
Speaker 1: And I have a half brother, so she moved in
Speaker 1: with my other and she they asked me if I
Speaker 1: would come live with them, and then so I did,
Speaker 1: and uh, I remember there was a kind of some
Speaker 1: conflict between us because at this time, I'm basically living
Speaker 1: on my own and I'm making my own rules, I'm
Speaker 1: fending for myselves, and now they want me to fall
Speaker 1: back into the structure life of you know, she's the
Speaker 1: mom on the sun, and I didn't really want anything
Speaker 1: to do with it. So I ended up moving out shortly.
Speaker 1: I mean it was a short stint with that. My
Speaker 1: mom ended up moving back out to Colorado, being close
Speaker 1: to family.
Speaker 6: And then.
Speaker 1: I remember this was I remember nine to eleven happened,
Speaker 1: and that was in my apartment, and I remember my
Speaker 1: mom called me in the morning and I woke up
Speaker 1: and I was like, answer the phone. She's like, do
Speaker 1: you see what's going on? You know what's going on?
Speaker 6: To what are you talking about? She goes throw on TVs.
Speaker 1: I turned TV and saw all the chaos that was
Speaker 1: going in New York City, the towers and everything. And
Speaker 1: I remember that time, a little bit before nine to
Speaker 1: eleven happened. I was actually looking to join the army
Speaker 1: and I was going through the steps. So I went
Speaker 1: into a recruiters office, did the enlistment, did my tests,
Speaker 1: but I still hadn't graduated high school yet and so
Speaker 1: and I didn't have a GV at the time, so
Speaker 1: they said as soon as I get my GED they
Speaker 1: would send me off. And I was going to go
Speaker 1: to Fort Bettingworth, Georgia, but then the nine to eleven happened,
Speaker 1: so I was like, I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: a good time for me to join right now.
Speaker 6: And that's one thing I do regret.
Speaker 1: Even to this day, even though my feelings, what my
Speaker 1: feelings are toward government are is, I do regret not
Speaker 1: joining the service.
Speaker 6: I think that.
Speaker 1: Probably would have been a pretty good thing for me
Speaker 1: to go through at the time to get the structure
Speaker 1: that I think I was yearning for but never got.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that happened, and then my mom came
Speaker 1: and visited one time and she ended up moving back
Speaker 1: to Hawaii, and she said, well, I would like to
Speaker 1: have you move out to Hawaii with me, and I
Speaker 1: was like, sure, share shirt. And then for some reason
Speaker 1: something fell through.
Speaker 6: I didn't. She ended up moving back to Colorado, and
Speaker 6: I remember we got.
Speaker 1: Into a terrible, terrible disagreement, argument, fight, whatever you'd like
Speaker 1: to call it, and I remember I said some pretty
Speaker 1: hurtful things to her, and that was the last time
Speaker 1: I talked to her. And then a couple of years later,
Speaker 1: got a phone call, I think it was like four
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning that she had ended up committing suicide.
Speaker 1: And my biggest regret was me because of what I
Speaker 1: had said to her. I just felt so ashamed and
Speaker 1: so embarrassed, and I didn't know how to seek the
Speaker 1: forgiveness from her, and so that's something I've kind of
Speaker 1: lived with ever since.
Speaker 5: That's tough, brother, but you were still you were still
Speaker 5: at an age where it's really hard to think the
Speaker 5: way we do. And that's something I always try to
Speaker 5: remind myself when I'm beating myself over the head for
Speaker 5: mistakes I made when I was in my late teens
Speaker 5: and twenties. We didn't have the spiritual formation, we didn't
Speaker 5: have the wisdom. And the reason we get wisdom is
Speaker 5: because we live through these mistakes, and it's you know,
Speaker 5: you know, we can blame ourselves, we can feel guilty
Speaker 5: about it. But the big thing is when we're young,
Speaker 5: especially if you're a guy. Man. I me and my
Speaker 5: buddy today, I've been friends with him for over forty years.
Speaker 5: We were clueless when we were eighteen nineteen years old. Man,
Speaker 5: clueless and you know, you think you know everything, but
Speaker 5: you really don't. You know, you were self centered. We
Speaker 5: really only care about our and you know, I have
Speaker 5: been blessed. I'll tell you, brother, that I needed the
Speaker 5: army more than the army needed me. And it did.
Speaker 5: When I went back in for that second stint. It
Speaker 5: gave me the structure and understanding that you know, if
Speaker 5: I gave if I blew this after everything else I've blown,
Speaker 5: you know that that could be it. And I took
Speaker 5: it very seriously. And I lived just about every day
Speaker 5: of my life while I wore the uniform. I took
Speaker 5: it very seriously because then, you know, you get married,
Speaker 5: more children and responsibilities. You know, there's children and people
Speaker 5: depending on you. And I was like, just don't screw
Speaker 5: this up, George. And that's why I've worked so hard
Speaker 5: at it. And that is something again, just like you
Speaker 5: said right now, that we know what the government's really
Speaker 5: about and the lives of this and that still, whether
Speaker 5: it's being a teacher or a soldier, or a doctor
Speaker 5: or a nurse, it's a very admirable, admirable and honorable
Speaker 5: thing to do. Unfortunately, the matrix has corrupted all of
Speaker 5: the systems, so it's really hard, right and we get
Speaker 5: stuck in the paycheck you know thing where we you know, well,
Speaker 5: if I don't do this, then I'm going to lose
Speaker 5: my job. Then hang on a feld my family. It's
Speaker 5: it's quite a matrix that they've created and that which
Speaker 5: creates a lot of dilemmas for us personally.
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: And going back to what I said, you know, education
Speaker 1: comes easier when it's something that you want and want
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 5: Amen. Amen.
Speaker 1: When when she had probably six months after coming back
Speaker 1: from her funeral, I remember I made a promise to
Speaker 1: her before we got that big argument where I quit
Speaker 1: talking to her, that you know, I would go to
Speaker 1: school and whatnot. So I went out got my ged
Speaker 1: right away. Then I enlisted in the culinary school. I
Speaker 1: got accepted to the Culinary Institute of America and Hyde Park,
Speaker 1: New York. But the tuition there was insane. There's no
Speaker 1: way I was going to afford it, even with the
Speaker 1: financial aid that I was going to get. So I
Speaker 1: ended up going to a local school here called the
Speaker 1: Iowa Culinary Institute, and it's pretty well known throughout the country,
Speaker 1: and they have a sister school in Paris, France. And
Speaker 1: I remember our first day of class, they were going
Speaker 1: through the syllabus and everything and talking about, you know.
Speaker 6: The program, and then they're like, well, at the end.
Speaker 1: Of two years, we picked the eight top students and
Speaker 1: we give them scholarships to go do an internship in France.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking to myself, I'm getting that scholarship,
Speaker 1: and sure enough I did, you know, which was amazing.
Speaker 1: I got to go over to France and had amazing
Speaker 1: time there. So, you know, I don't know if this
Speaker 1: is the right thing to say, but it was kind
Speaker 1: of I don't want to say blessing because that sounds
Speaker 1: kind of maybe morbid and way, but her passing was
Speaker 1: in a sense kind of like a blessing because it
Speaker 1: saved me, because it woke me up. The crazy thing is,
Speaker 1: I remember when I came back from it was shortly
Speaker 1: after her funeral. When we came back, I had a
Speaker 1: couple of weird things happened to me, And I don't
Speaker 1: know how I feel about it now, because I've been
Speaker 1: listening to a lot of podcasts and they talked about
Speaker 1: Christian based podcast and whatnot, and to kind of talk
Speaker 1: about like how demons demons and stuff. But I remember
Speaker 1: one day when I got home from work, I flipped
Speaker 1: open my laptop. I was getting ready to go just
Speaker 1: mess around on the computer, and I got into my
Speaker 1: logging screen, so I wasn't even on my desktop yet,
Speaker 1: I haven't even put my password yet, and my mom's
Speaker 1: voice came over and repeated over and over again, I
Speaker 1: love you, I love you, I love you, and sounded
Speaker 1: just like her, and I just remember all the hairs
Speaker 1: on my body stood up. I instantly just started the ball.
Speaker 1: And I was living with my brother at the time.
Speaker 1: He was upstairs, and I yelled for him, and he
Speaker 1: came down. What what what happened? What happened?
Speaker 6: And I told him what happened. He goes he kind
Speaker 6: of looked at me like I was crazy.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, if it happens again, you know, we'll
Speaker 1: get it recorded. The very next day, the exact same
Speaker 1: thing happened again. My brother was able to come downstairs
Speaker 1: in time, we hit record, We got it on recording.
Speaker 6: Never happened again after that.
Speaker 1: So I think, in a way, I I feel that
Speaker 1: it was her connecting with me, just letting her know that,
Speaker 1: you know, that she did love me. And you would
Speaker 1: think at that time it was that time when I
Speaker 1: realized that we don't truly die, there is life beyond
Speaker 1: what we experience. But I would have to honestly say
Speaker 1: that it wasn't until I came across your podcast where
Speaker 1: my faith had really started to change. And which is
Speaker 1: weird because my mom was such a huge follower of Christ,
Speaker 1: and she's always trying to get me involved in the
Speaker 1: church so much so we're just constantly thrown down my throat,
Speaker 1: you know, and she's getting me into like youth group
Speaker 1: programs and uh all, you know, whatever she could try
Speaker 1: to get me involved. But at that time and my age,
Speaker 1: the only thing I cared about was, you know, hanging
Speaker 1: out with friends and getting in the mischief and doing
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But so when I say her
Speaker 1: passing was kind of a blessing in the way, it
Speaker 1: kind of was because.
Speaker 6: It made me.
Speaker 1: Start to start on the path of straightening my life.
Speaker 6: About you know, so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, many of us have unfortunately had to and at
Speaker 5: some point we all will, you know, enduring the death
Speaker 5: of a parent. I'm truly sorry that you had to
Speaker 5: deal with it at such a young age and in
Speaker 5: the fashion you had to deal with it. But I think,
Speaker 5: you know, I've talked to a lot of people over
Speaker 5: the years, especially after I lost my dad in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 5: and you do feel, you know, I need to step
Speaker 5: up right, And that's really when I fully changed my life.
Speaker 5: And like you said, I've moved back. I sold my
Speaker 5: house in Texas, I sold my property in Colorado. We
Speaker 5: moved back home. We started, you know, it was time
Speaker 5: to come home, to be around family, to where I
Speaker 5: grew up and reconnect with friends. And I felt very passionate. Obviously,
Speaker 5: twenty twenty happened simultaneously, and you just felt the urge.
Speaker 5: My faith grew and you could see the evil. They
Speaker 5: weren't hiding their evil anymore, and it kind of I
Speaker 5: guess when you're faced with that, you get the fighter
Speaker 5: flight kind of reaction and mine what was to fight
Speaker 5: and through podcasts and you know, just going out walking
Speaker 5: around talking to people, passing out Bible tracks and being
Speaker 5: involved in community and understanding, like you know, we can
Speaker 5: either complain about it and watch the news and toil
Speaker 5: internally about how the world is just going to hell
Speaker 5: in a handbasket, or we can just go we can
Speaker 5: try to make a difference in people's lives and understanding
Speaker 5: that no matter how tough that we have it today,
Speaker 5: there are millions of people who are much worse predicaments
Speaker 5: than we are. And you know, I try to keep
Speaker 5: that in mind and to be thankful every day for
Speaker 5: what God has given me and and again that and
Speaker 5: it is kind of a you don't even know how
Speaker 5: to address it, the words to use, but I guess
Speaker 5: it's similar to, like, you know, how they say there's
Speaker 5: no atheists and foxholes are in prison. When your life
Speaker 5: is faced, it's such a challenge that it's never really
Speaker 5: experienced before you turn to God. And I think that's
Speaker 5: what happens when we lose a parent. If if that
Speaker 5: makes any sense.
Speaker 1: I know it absolutely does. And Uh, it's kind of
Speaker 1: funny to go along with what you were saying there
Speaker 1: is one of uh, one of my favorite music artists
Speaker 1: growing up was Bob Marley, and he had a saying
Speaker 1: that in one of his songs. It's every man's burden
Speaker 1: thinks his is the heaviest, you know, and it's and
Speaker 1: it's true, you know, whenever something bad happens to us,
Speaker 1: whether how minor and minute it might.
Speaker 6: Be, it's still it feels like.
Speaker 1: The world, the way of the world, is on top
Speaker 1: of you, you know, and there's always someone else else
Speaker 1: out there who's got it ten times befoorse than what
Speaker 1: you're going through. And so, yeah, I totally agree with
Speaker 1: kind of what you were saying there.
Speaker 5: That's awesome. You got to go to school and I
Speaker 5: assume I forgot I have to go back and read
Speaker 5: your email. But you're still don't You're still in the
Speaker 5: food service industry, right.
Speaker 1: No, actually, so I had ended up getting out of it.
Speaker 1: I spent about twenty years in it, long days, long
Speaker 1: long days, twelve fourteen hour days I had. So what
Speaker 1: I was in culinary school is when I met my wife,
Speaker 1: obviously my girlfriend at the time, and when I went
Speaker 1: to France for my internship there. When my internship was done,
Speaker 1: she actually flew out to Paris and we did a
Speaker 1: little backpack trip. We took a train from Paris up
Speaker 1: to Amsterdam and then from Amsterdam. We went to Madrid, Spain,
Speaker 1: and I proposed to her when the second she got
Speaker 1: off on the got off on the plane.
Speaker 6: I picked her up at the airport and we had.
Speaker 1: To rush to the train station to catch our train
Speaker 1: to go to Amsterdam, and we ended up missing our
Speaker 1: train because she got delayed a day because of the
Speaker 1: weather out of Chicago, so we had a while we're
Speaker 1: waiting for the next train. I had actually got her
Speaker 1: name tattooed on my ring finger before I had even
Speaker 1: asked her while I was there in France, and so
Speaker 1: I said, well, you're going to see this, so I
Speaker 1: might as well just do this now.
Speaker 6: And I asked her to marry me. And then so.
Speaker 1: When we got back, we started playing the wedding. We
Speaker 1: ended up getting married, and then just the hours were
Speaker 1: weighing on me, you know, spending so much time away
Speaker 1: from her, So I ended up leaving. Did a couple
Speaker 1: of sales jobs when I first got out, but then
Speaker 1: I realized, well, I'm just getting out of the hour.
Speaker 1: I just left the job because of the hours I
Speaker 1: was working. Getting back into basically require the same hours.
Speaker 1: So I decided that I would join I'd get into
Speaker 1: a trade so I went to I joined the local
Speaker 1: one O six carpentry union here here in town and
Speaker 1: went through the apprenticeship. And when I went through the apprenticeship,
Speaker 1: we ended up having a COVID baby. So at forty
Speaker 1: years old, I come home from work one day on
Speaker 1: a Friday and my wife we were outside. She comes
Speaker 1: out and she goes, well, I have something to tell you.
Speaker 1: I go what she goes, I'm pregnant. I said, no,
Speaker 1: you're not, And sure enough, she had a couple of
Speaker 1: pregnancies tests that she showed me that she had taken
Speaker 1: and they were positive. And so yeah, we ended up
Speaker 1: having a lot COVID baby. So yeah, it was something
Speaker 1: that we kind of planned. I mean, we never really
Speaker 1: planned to have children, and then later on we're kind
Speaker 1: of like, well, maybe we'll see what happened. And then
Speaker 1: nothing happened. Nothing happened, nothing happened, and so we figured, well,
Speaker 1: maybe it's just not going to be for us, you know.
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, we have a little angel
Speaker 1: come into our life. So it was quite the shock,
Speaker 1: but at the same time a huge blessing.
Speaker 6: She's just an amazing, beautiful, smart little girl.
Speaker 5: What was your if I can ask what was your
Speaker 5: experience like having a baby in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: So it was it wasn't bad. We kind of didn't
Speaker 1: mind because we got to keep it to ourselves without
Speaker 1: having a bunch of people at the hospital with us,
Speaker 1: because you couldn't have anybody come in, so it was
Speaker 1: just me and her, and in a way, I think
Speaker 1: it was kind of I know, it was more relaxing
Speaker 1: for her than having to deal with the stress of
Speaker 1: having family come in the room and being all there.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't bad really. And our town and I've
Speaker 1: heard a lot about stories from you know, the bigger
Speaker 1: cities and surrounding areas, but our area didn't seem too
Speaker 1: much affected by it. Yeah, things were shut down, but
Speaker 1: it didn't really bother us too much, you know, because
Speaker 1: we're kind of homebodies. We don't really go out a
Speaker 1: whole lot anyway, So you know, it was kind of
Speaker 1: I guess you can say kind of nice that we
Speaker 1: couldn't have a whole bunch of people come at the hospital.
Speaker 5: That's awesome. But since we're already on the topic of
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, were you kind of already awake at that
Speaker 5: point or was that something that helped you wake up
Speaker 5: or you go.
Speaker 1: I have kind of always been interested in conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1: I remember when shortly after nine to eleven happened. I
Speaker 1: saw that documentary Zeitgeist, which everyone but he mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: and then I watched that. I was like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: our government did this to ourselves, you know. And but
Speaker 1: I've always known I always had a dislike for authority
Speaker 1: and governments to begin with, so it didn't surprise me
Speaker 1: too much. I've always thought, you know, the JFK wasn't
Speaker 1: an assassination, it was more of a murder. But then, uh,
Speaker 1: I came across a documentary and you know, the documentary
Speaker 1: documentary Lost History of the Flatter yep. Okay, well, the
Speaker 1: same guy. I hadn't seen that one until I think
Speaker 1: it was a few months ago, maybe almost a year ago.
Speaker 1: But the one that I saw that, he did another
Speaker 1: one called What in the World Happened? And it was
Speaker 1: or something like that. But it was an eight hour documentary,
Speaker 1: and I remember I was watching when I would go
Speaker 1: on lunch breaks in my car.
Speaker 6: I got to my car to eat.
Speaker 1: My lunch, and while I was there, I watched watch it,
Speaker 1: you know, And then on my Brakes. I'd watch it.
Speaker 1: So it took me almost two weeks to get through
Speaker 1: the whole documentary, and I was like, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he's onto something.
Speaker 6: We probably live and.
Speaker 1: I hate the term flat earth that well, the say
Speaker 1: flat earth because that's basically what everybody knows of. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is just this is crazy. But
Speaker 1: it didn't surprise me because of how we're constantly lied
Speaker 1: about everything, and I didn't have the two week chaotic
Speaker 1: mind games that you went through. I remember he's talking
Speaker 1: about on your show for like two weeks you couldn't
Speaker 1: sleep and everything like that. To me, it was just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes sense, you know, yep, we've been lying soing.
Speaker 1: But shortly after I started getting more interested in it.
Speaker 1: And around that time, uh, it was everywhere all over
Speaker 1: YouTube flatter off, it is, Flatterer fat, and I remember,
Speaker 1: I uh just went on and I'd never been into
Speaker 1: podcast Yours was the first podcast I'd ever even listened to.
Speaker 1: I went on, and I have an Apple phone, so
Speaker 1: I went on the podcast tab and I just put
Speaker 1: in flatter just to see what would come up, and
Speaker 1: there were several of them. I was scrolling and I
Speaker 1: was just like well, I don't know that one is
Speaker 1: what you're interesting, And I was going off of you know,
Speaker 1: picture it in a book by its cover, you know,
Speaker 1: and I saw yours.
Speaker 6: I was like, well, this one.
Speaker 1: Looks pretty good. I'll try it out. And I clicked
Speaker 1: on it and listened to episode one and from then on,
Speaker 1: like I said, every single day, I was just constantly
Speaker 1: listening to it. And that's kind of how I got
Speaker 1: onto that train.
Speaker 5: That's awesome. And by the way, I should mention what
Speaker 5: on earth happened? Full documentary? It's it's eight hours and
Speaker 5: twelve minutes. I have the link. I put it in
Speaker 5: the show notes. It's voiced by the same guy. I
Speaker 5: think it's a Warren On right, the guy with the
Speaker 5: real serious voice.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it took me a while to get in
Speaker 1: the voice. You know. It's like there, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I can watch this. But I was like, but
Speaker 1: there was so much information, you know about information from
Speaker 1: the ancient cities however, you know, all the cathedrals and
Speaker 1: how they were taking energy from the ether of our
Speaker 1: atmosphere and so they were basically power plants and giving
Speaker 1: out free energy, you know, and it was just it
Speaker 1: was just so interesting, and I got hooked right away,
Speaker 1: and it's just it blew my mind. And so from
Speaker 1: then on, I've just been trying to learn.
Speaker 6: More more about our history, in our.
Speaker 1: Past and you know, just us, where do we come from?
Speaker 1: What do we do? You know? And that started leading
Speaker 1: me toward, like I said, listen to your show, listen
Speaker 1: to the guests on your show. That started to spark
Speaker 1: a fire and me learning to get closer with God.
Speaker 1: I remember one of your shows you had a guest
Speaker 1: on and I can't remember his name. I should have
Speaker 1: wrote it down, but this was almost two years ago.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: He had talked about the Bible app. So I downloaded
Speaker 1: the Bible app on my phone and I would start
Speaker 1: to go through, and they have all these different classes
Speaker 1: you could take, so to speak. It would be anything
Speaker 1: from like love, depression or anything. So I kicked on.
Speaker 1: I clicked on the depression one and it was a
Speaker 1: week long and knew every day they would have past
Speaker 1: just from the Bible that you could read that had
Speaker 1: to do with like dealing with depression and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I started, you know, going through all these different
Speaker 1: courses and then just let's last January or I guess
Speaker 1: it was just before January one popped up and said
Speaker 1: Bible in the year.
Speaker 6: So I said, yeah, I'm gonna do this, and so
Speaker 6: I clicked on it.
Speaker 1: And so every day since January, I've been reading the passages,
Speaker 1: you know, reading basically the Bible, starting with Genesis one.
Speaker 1: I'm just getting ready to start Zekiel. Is that how
Speaker 1: you say? I think so, But yeah, that's the one
Speaker 1: the book that I'm getting into actually today. So that's
Speaker 1: how far I've gotten so far, and I'm on track
Speaker 1: to finish it in the year.
Speaker 5: That's awesome. God bless you for doing that in the
Speaker 5: and I just thought of this question. I'm looking at
Speaker 5: the comments on the shootube video as you were talking.
Speaker 5: It is mind blowing and even a fair share of
Speaker 5: people who have and down many rabbit holes when you see, right,
Speaker 5: it's one thing to go down a rabbit hole and say,
Speaker 5: all right, yeah they fake the moon landing and this
Speaker 5: nine to eleven. But I really think flat earth is
Speaker 5: such a big one or true worth. You know what
Speaker 5: the most emails I get is about everybody also includes
Speaker 5: they don't like the term flat earth. And again, at
Speaker 5: some point we do have to take the offense on
Speaker 5: that and kind of rename it. Whether it's true worth
Speaker 5: or biblical cosmology or geocentrism or whatever the case is,
Speaker 5: we do need to turn that away just because they've
Speaker 5: turned it into a vulgar a vulgar word, which is whole.
Speaker 5: That's a big part of the psychological operation. But when
Speaker 5: people it's really interesting to see when people when they
Speaker 5: when everything connects, like like when they take the red
Speaker 5: pill in the matrix, or they put on the glasses
Speaker 5: and they live and just everything's like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: this is really bigger than just money and power. This
Speaker 5: is a spiritual battle. It really is, and it's it's
Speaker 5: a lot for some people to handle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely is that. I can see how it
Speaker 1: could be really hard for a lot of people. Like
Speaker 1: I said, for me, though, it's just I felt better.
Speaker 1: I felt like, yeah, this makes so much more sense,
Speaker 1: you know, it just it seemed bright, It seemed more
Speaker 1: realistic than anything.
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely was there a particular rabbit hole that hits
Speaker 5: you harder than the others, whether it was disappointment or
Speaker 5: like for me, I felt I let my guard down, like,
Speaker 5: you know, how can I let them fool me on this?
Speaker 5: As far as flat Earth or like betrayed nine to
Speaker 5: eleven go ahead.
Speaker 1: I think I think nine to eleven was probably the
Speaker 1: big one for me because, like I said, just before
Speaker 1: four nine to eleven happened, I was actually in the
Speaker 1: process of trying to join the army and then it happened.
Speaker 6: And then you know, you get.
Speaker 1: You get filled with patriotism whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1: Then you start hating the wrong people for because of
Speaker 1: all the nonsense that you're sitting on TV. You want revenge,
Speaker 1: you want you know, you you want answers. And then
Speaker 1: when I learned, like you know that we did this
Speaker 1: to ourselves that you know, when they talked about when
Speaker 1: I learned that, you know, when the towers came down,
Speaker 1: I remember watching it on TV. Then shortly after you
Speaker 1: learned about Building seven coming down but no plane hit it,
Speaker 1: and it makes no sense, Well why did that fall?
Speaker 1: Then you start to that. I saw that Zeitgeist documentary
Speaker 1: and then it was just like that was more disturbing
Speaker 1: to me than out of all the conspiracies, because that
Speaker 1: was in my lifetime. You know. Some of the other
Speaker 1: conspiracies were before my lifetime, like the bombing of Chicago
Speaker 1: and Pearl Harbor and JFK. And you know which is
Speaker 1: funny thing is about Pearl Harbor. My birthday is actually
Speaker 1: December seventh, so yeah, so I remember one of me.
Speaker 1: But when I was living in Hawaii, on December seventh
Speaker 1: on my birthday, we'd go down to Poular Harbor because.
Speaker 5: They have Arizona Memorial.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, so that that was probably
Speaker 1: the most disturbing to me because it made me realize that,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't live in the world that we
Speaker 1: think we do, and then they tell us that we do.
Speaker 1: You know, evil is definitely in control and corruption.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, when you go back and look at
Speaker 5: all of the rabbit holes, it seemed like like they
Speaker 5: could only deceive us, and you know, they could tell
Speaker 5: us to go to war and then we would kill
Speaker 5: each other. Right, That's how a lot of the rabbit
Speaker 5: the deceit worked. You know, we had to stop communism,
Speaker 5: that's how it worked. But nine to eleven was a
Speaker 5: different type of of rabbit hole. Even with Pearl Harbor,
Speaker 5: they allowed it to happen, they didn't.
Speaker 6: It wasn't a surprise, right, but.
Speaker 5: War right exactly? They know about Yeah, like as early
Speaker 5: as November it was that that book there right here
Speaker 5: and the listeners can't see it, but they have deceit
Speaker 5: by Robert Stinnet's one of the greatest books, and he's
Speaker 5: on YouTube just put his name in there and lots
Speaker 5: of interviews, and he breaks it down about how they
Speaker 5: knew well in advance and that that was just their excuse.
Speaker 5: That's a false flag, just like the Gulf of Tonkin.
Speaker 5: But when your own government is actively involved in killing Americans,
Speaker 5: which you know, I guess to a certain degree, you
Speaker 5: could say Pearl Harbor was because they didn't try to
Speaker 5: stop it, but nine to eleven was the next level.
Speaker 5: Like they it was.
Speaker 1: It was a different it was a different strategy, right.
Speaker 6: It was. It was a kick in the face, you know.
Speaker 1: It was this is who we are, this is what
Speaker 1: we do, and there's nothing you guys can do about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and the same with COVID, right, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 5: So that that's why people need to you know, this
Speaker 5: is more just about than more than just rabbit holes.
Speaker 5: This is a spiritual battle and you were obviously you know,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to sit here and say, you know,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of people the end is the end
Speaker 5: is near obviously, but it could be decades. That's near
Speaker 5: in the in the span of sixty five hundred years,
Speaker 5: it could be one hundred years. However, you know, you
Speaker 5: can just look in you know, the profess books of
Speaker 5: the Bible and see what's going on in this world
Speaker 5: with the technology that we have today. Right that that
Speaker 5: had to happen before they could bring in the Mark
Speaker 5: of the Beast. And I think, you know, there was
Speaker 5: a lot of people out there saying, oh, the COVID
Speaker 5: jab was the mark of the beast.
Speaker 1: It was not the jet No, I don't think it
Speaker 1: was at all.
Speaker 5: No, of course not. But I think it was to
Speaker 5: see a test, a trial, to see how many people
Speaker 5: would comply.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so do I.
Speaker 1: And to kind of go on to that, I have
Speaker 1: recently on YouTube been watching a lot of near death
Speaker 1: experiences and a lot of them, you know, would talk
Speaker 1: about like the mark of the Beast and what, you know,
Speaker 1: whether the people would have these near death experiences when
Speaker 1: Jesus had told them about it, and how it would go.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be through some vaccine,
Speaker 1: you know. I think it's gonna be through technology, and
Speaker 1: slowly for us, they're gonna slowly and it's already you
Speaker 1: can almost see it starting to take fold where they
Speaker 1: slowly get us to depend on this technology. Now, whether
Speaker 1: it's you know, going to be a mark on your
Speaker 1: hand or your forehead or chip implanted, it's not going
Speaker 1: to be something that they're gonna give us without knowing.
Speaker 1: It's going to be something they give us that we
Speaker 1: actually are gonna want to protect our children, be able
Speaker 1: to monitor our children, being able to uh pay for
Speaker 1: groceries or whatever.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: I know there's a couple of companies who already have
Speaker 1: tip tip implanted in their hands so when they go
Speaker 1: to their company, they can clock in that way, they
Speaker 1: go to their their cafeteria by groceries this way. So
Speaker 1: it's all I think it's gonna be, like I said,
Speaker 1: something that's going to be slowly introduced as technology, a
Speaker 1: way for life to be easier on us, a way
Speaker 1: for us to be a few track of things, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be trickery into something that we want that
Speaker 1: we don't need.
Speaker 5: I got an email from someone six months ago and
Speaker 5: he shared a random website journal entry of writing, and
Speaker 5: it talked about how he had spoken with somebody who
Speaker 5: used to work at DARPA. You know, it's whether or
Speaker 5: not it's true or not, I don't know. But it
Speaker 5: was a lot of good points in it, and it
Speaker 5: was by you just saying what you did. That's what
Speaker 5: kind of jarred my memory of the story was that
Speaker 5: it's not gonna come out as another type of vaccine.
Speaker 5: It's going to be something that people will want for.
Speaker 5: What he was told was there's going to be like
Speaker 5: cash incentives, breaks on taxes and reef like all of
Speaker 5: these things, you know, to be able to do transactions instantly,
Speaker 5: and you were going to get benefits like even on
Speaker 5: your electricity bill. That they were going to give all
Speaker 5: these incentives to where everybody's going to want it. But
Speaker 5: I will tell you, just kind of looking at the
Speaker 5: last couple of sigh ups they've thrown at us, including
Speaker 5: even something as recent as the Iran Israel tobaccle, was
Speaker 5: people are completely awake for the most part, even the
Speaker 5: people who are still caught up in secular worldly things.
Speaker 5: I think you have to be kind of cognizant of
Speaker 5: what's going on. I still think for a lot of
Speaker 5: people it's going to take something similar to what they did,
Speaker 5: though if you want to participate in society, you have
Speaker 5: to have this. And I think they get off on
Speaker 5: that type of thing first of all, just to see
Speaker 5: how many people rush to their demise, right absolutely, and
Speaker 5: then they'll slowly put the pressure on to see who
Speaker 5: holds out. And I will tell you that these evil
Speaker 5: people actually do respect the people who hold out, that
Speaker 5: you and I and everybody who listening to the podcast,
Speaker 5: while they look at us as their enemy, that they
Speaker 5: hold us just kind of as a soldiers would on
Speaker 5: a battlefield. Right. They know that we have conviction and
Speaker 5: we're not an easy target. And while that respect isn't mutual,
Speaker 5: we pray for them and we hope that they come
Speaker 5: around and hope they understand that they're on the losing side.
Speaker 5: That's the one thing. We all know how the story ends.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and it kind of goes to me, you know,
Speaker 1: when it comes to like, you know, there's all this.
Speaker 6: I'm not a Republican, I'm not a Democrat.
Speaker 1: I don't care about the system, it doesn't matter what'side.
Speaker 1: And I have respect for anybody who's a Democrat. I
Speaker 1: have respect for anybody who's a Republican. But it just
Speaker 1: baffles me that that all that fighting and division, and
Speaker 1: nothing changes. It doesn't matter who's in control, who's in office.
Speaker 1: Everything is the same. Might be slightly different, but in
Speaker 1: the big picture, nothing changes.
Speaker 6: Everything's the same.
Speaker 1: And I just I just don't understand how people still
Speaker 1: get so worked up over this, how we're still so divided.
Speaker 6: How like.
Speaker 1: I hear so many people talk about, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: it's corrupted. You know, presidents are selected this and that,
Speaker 1: and then the same people say that they go out
Speaker 1: when the next election comes and they're out there standing
Speaker 1: in line to go get their stickers, saying I voted,
Speaker 1: Why are you playing their game? You know, It's just
Speaker 1: to me, it doesn't make any sense. And for a
Speaker 1: while there I was I was starting to fall into.
Speaker 6: The political side of things. I remember when.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm having a brain fart.
Speaker 6: Excuse me.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the gentleman who I was,
Speaker 1: who I was, who I was voting, who he was
Speaker 1: running independent? And I cannot, I cannot think of his
Speaker 1: name right.
Speaker 6: Now, And I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty embarrassed about it. It was a couple.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 1: Oh man, what was his name? He was a younger
Speaker 1: gentleman I'm sorry, No, this was probably uh back when
Speaker 1: like Clinton was running. You're talking about Bara, not Rossbaro.
Speaker 5: This was right after Obama, so twenty sixteen.
Speaker 7: Yeah, aw man, I can't I can't think of his name.
Speaker 7: But anyway, my wife and.
Speaker 1: I remember we went to a caucus because we have
Speaker 1: the caucus here in Iowa, and I remember when we went,
Speaker 1: we had a sign in and they had everybody who
Speaker 1: was in that neighborhood, you know, because they go by
Speaker 1: your stations, are by where you live.
Speaker 6: What neighborhood you live in.
Speaker 1: Everything. So we went to the school where we were
Speaker 1: told we had to go, and we checked it and
Speaker 1: they had our names on the list and everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: they tell you, you know, everybody who's voting for Hillary Clinton
Speaker 1: go on this side of the room. Everybody who's voting
Speaker 1: for so and so go over to this side of
Speaker 1: the room. And this is when I'm having trouble thinking
Speaker 1: all these politicians' names, because right now I completely gave
Speaker 1: up on it, so I just kind of put them
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind. But we get up
Speaker 1: and basically Hillary Clinton had lost the cocus that we
Speaker 1: were at, and my wife and I were sitting in
Speaker 1: the bleachers after they teld the sorry, everybody, go back
Speaker 1: down and sit back down. We're gonna get ready to
Speaker 1: leave for the night. We go back and sit down,
Speaker 1: and then we hear my wife and I hear our
Speaker 1: names called. They goes there A Brett and Ashley here,
Speaker 1: and we get up and we walked down really yeah
Speaker 1: right here, and they're like, just to let you know
Speaker 1: you are at the wrong place, so your votes don't
Speaker 1: count until the winners.
Speaker 6: Go to Hillary Clifton.
Speaker 1: What so Hillary absolutely not a lie. And that happened
Speaker 1: quite a happened in quite a different counties here throughout
Speaker 1: throughout Iowa.
Speaker 5: Was that Gary Johnson the year Gary Johnson ran.
Speaker 6: Gary Yes, Yes, yes, Gary Johnson.
Speaker 1: And I guess they could say the real reason why
Speaker 1: I was for him because at the time, you know,
Speaker 1: I was a big pothead and he was talking about
Speaker 1: ending the war on drugs. I thought it was always
Speaker 1: the biggest thing in the world. Also that he wanted
Speaker 1: to challenge the Federal Reserve. You know, it was huge
Speaker 1: on that. Those are the big two big selling points
Speaker 1: for me. So I was a big Gary Johnson fan
Speaker 1: at that time.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Was just to see that corruption firsthand, they checked us in.
Speaker 1: Our names were on the list. After the voting happened,
Speaker 1: they didn't get who they wanted, and it was just
Speaker 1: weird that it was only two votes made the difference
Speaker 1: to where she would have won to come that caucus.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and the funny thing is, so when we
Speaker 1: go but when I mentioned just a little bit ago
Speaker 1: that I used to be a big pothead. You know,
Speaker 1: I started smoking marijuana when I was like thirteen years old,
Speaker 1: and I had smoked all the way up until last September, every.
Speaker 6: Day, all day. That's that was. I was never a
Speaker 6: big drinker.
Speaker 1: Sure, my younger late teens, early twenties, I would go
Speaker 1: out and drink, but there's nothing I really enjoyed to do.
Speaker 6: I just did it because everybody else did it.
Speaker 1: But uh, marijuana was something that I actually really enjoyed
Speaker 1: and too much. And I remember last summer, well, one
Speaker 1: of your podcasts is what it made me email you
Speaker 1: because I was listening to the podcast. I didn't even
Speaker 1: get to the end of the podcast, but somebody that
Speaker 1: you guys were talking about marijuana and how you know
Speaker 1: it can be addictive and other thing, and that's what
Speaker 1: I stopped it. I got to email George real quick.
Speaker 1: I got to stop this, and I got to stop
Speaker 1: this attack on.
Speaker 6: Marijuana, you know.
Speaker 1: And I remember emailing you that. And but shortly after
Speaker 1: and having my child, I was starting to think, you know,
Speaker 1: why am I not getting anywhere in life?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 1: And I remember I pray as that work, and I
Speaker 1: just I started praying and I said, God, show me
Speaker 1: what I'm doing wrong? What am I doing wrong? What
Speaker 1: is holding me back? What is keeping me from being
Speaker 1: the person I need to be the father I need
Speaker 1: to be. And I wasn't even thinking about quitting smoking
Speaker 1: weed or anything like that. And I remember coming home
Speaker 1: from work the next day after I did that prayer,
Speaker 1: and it was just just like something was controlling me.
Speaker 1: I went downstairs where I kept everything, so I kept
Speaker 1: it away my wife. She never smokes or anything like that.
Speaker 1: It was just something I did, you know. But I
Speaker 1: remember coming home and I just threw away everything. I had,
Speaker 1: all my all my pipes, my bonds, my weed. I
Speaker 1: was big, and I also had like I was also
Speaker 1: liked to hallucinogenics, so mushrooms, lsb you know, because it
Speaker 1: was spiritual, you know, I just was like I said
Speaker 1: something overcame me and I just threw everything away. And
Speaker 1: I hadn't had a desire to go back to that way.
Speaker 1: I haven't had a craving nothing. It was just like
Speaker 1: God answered that prayer, told me what I needed to do,
Speaker 1: and turned the.
Speaker 6: Light switch on for me, you know.
Speaker 5: And that was after a thirty over thirty years, right, yeah, yep, wow,
Speaker 5: that's amazing. And by the way, shout out that that
Speaker 5: was Matthew episode one, I believe, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, so, uh yeah, And it's been pretty crazy
Speaker 1: because like this past year, I would say it was
Speaker 1: it's probably been one of one of the hardest years
Speaker 1: for me because in January i'd gotten laid off for
Speaker 1: my job. Because and when you're in the trades, when
Speaker 1: you're busy, you're working, when you're.
Speaker 6: Not, you get laid off, you know.
Speaker 1: And I went through the full four years of apprenticeship
Speaker 1: that we're being laid off. Then this past December, during
Speaker 1: the you know, November, I guess it was October, work
Speaker 1: started to slow down really bad during going through election time,
Speaker 1: you know, everything was coming to a halt, and then
Speaker 1: by January I ended up getting laid off three months
Speaker 1: my unemployment was looking like it was going to run
Speaker 1: out because our state changed it to where you can
Speaker 1: only have I think it's like one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: days of unemployment. So I started to get real depressed,
Speaker 1: not going to work, not knowing what to do with
Speaker 1: myself because all I've known my whole life is work,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, I've basically been on my
Speaker 1: own since we'll school.
Speaker 6: Call it sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: So from sixteen years old up until last January, all
Speaker 1: I've ever done is work, And now I'm off for
Speaker 1: three months unemployment start to run out. I have a
Speaker 1: four year old daughter and a wife, and I'm not
Speaker 1: providing for him. I'm feeling like the biggest loser, and
Speaker 1: you starting to get into a real dark place where
Speaker 1: I was actually contemplating taking my life. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a failure to my wife.
Speaker 1: I don't want my I don't want to be a
Speaker 1: failure to my daughter, have her growing up with a
Speaker 1: dad that's a deadbeat dad. I can't give her anything.
Speaker 1: Started really having thoughts about, you know, how am I
Speaker 1: going to do this? I don't want her to come
Speaker 1: home and see me dead. How should I do this?
Speaker 1: You know, do I go to a hotel and just
Speaker 1: take a bottle of sleeping bills, go to sleep and
Speaker 1: never wake up again. I was having all these crazy,
Speaker 1: crazy thoughts, and I just you know, but every night though,
Speaker 1: I kept praying, praying, praying, you know what I need help,
Speaker 1: you know, God, you need to help me.
Speaker 6: You need to appear to me. I need to know
Speaker 6: you're here. And I had my first dream of.
Speaker 1: Him, and it was a dream I'll never forget. I was,
Speaker 1: I was outside and there was all these storms, there
Speaker 1: were ornados and lightning, and it was, I mean, just
Speaker 1: the clouds in the sky were as dark as could be.
Speaker 1: That all of a sudden, the sky opened up and
Speaker 1: I can see God. It had like a almost like
Speaker 1: a scepter, and he was like hitting the firmament with
Speaker 1: it and you could hear the boom. I remember hearing
Speaker 1: the echo off the firm and then uh. I looked
Speaker 1: down to my left and then I see Jesus standing
Speaker 1: next to me, and I remember just waking up. It
Speaker 1: was like and I had been praying, you know, can
Speaker 1: you come, can you come to me? Can you come
Speaker 1: in my dream? Come in my dream, you know? And
Speaker 1: I did, and it was just it was crazy. And
Speaker 1: then after that dream, it was just I started. I
Speaker 1: had a peace come over me. Those thoughts of.
Speaker 6: Wanting to take my life they went away.
Speaker 1: I ended up getting a job at the post office
Speaker 1: because what I called other Union Hall or other carpentry
Speaker 1: companies that are involved with our needing hall, no one
Speaker 1: was hiring. No one was hiring.
Speaker 6: So I was like, well, I need to find work.
Speaker 1: I started applying everywhere and couldn't get hired on it anywhere.
Speaker 1: I ended up getting a job at the post office,
Speaker 1: and so up until I just got back into the
Speaker 1: carpentry because two weeks ago, when I got done doing
Speaker 1: my route, when I got back to the office at
Speaker 1: four o'clock to turn my step my keys into my
Speaker 1: truck and hop in my car, and they said, well,
Speaker 1: we have another station that needs our help, and you
Speaker 1: go down to help for a couple hours. I was like, sure, absolutely,
Speaker 1: So I got my car started driving another station and
Speaker 1: my boss from when I was doing carpentry called me.
Speaker 1: He said, hey, what are you doing. I said, well,
Speaker 1: I'm delivered mail. He goes, well, I can put you
Speaker 1: back to work next Monday. We're fully booked out for
Speaker 1: the next three years. You want to come back, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I do, I said,
Speaker 1: but I need to continue working. He's like, you never
Speaker 1: did anything wrong, You're a great hand. We were just
Speaker 1: down to eight guys. We didn't have any work, so
Speaker 1: I want you back. And I was like, let me
Speaker 1: put the put a notice in at the post office.
Speaker 1: I went back to work on Monday to went to
Speaker 1: my station and said, you know, I feel bad. I've
Speaker 1: only been here about a month now. I don't know
Speaker 1: really what to do, but financially, I have to go
Speaker 1: back to my old job. My boss called me, he
Speaker 1: said they got.
Speaker 6: Worked for me.
Speaker 1: Because I was from what I was making in two
Speaker 1: weeks at the post office, I could make it a
Speaker 1: week doing carpenterine.
Speaker 6: So and I'm in the post office.
Speaker 1: One of the first jobs I actually loved because you
Speaker 1: go pick up your mail in the morning, load your
Speaker 1: truck up, go out hit the town. You're by yourself.
Speaker 1: You don't have to deal with all the nonsense on
Speaker 1: the construction site, all the wear, a tear out your body,
Speaker 1: just out walking delivery rail, listening to your podcast all
Speaker 1: day long. You know.
Speaker 6: So, but.
Speaker 1: Things have gotten a lot better. But the first half
Speaker 1: part of this year. Like I said, the first five
Speaker 1: months was just really taking a toll on me spiritually,
Speaker 1: and but like I said, I just kept praying, you know, and.
Speaker 6: So far things are starting to.
Speaker 1: Go the right way, you know.
Speaker 5: So that's awesome. And that's a prime example of prayer works.
Speaker 5: And we also have to One thing I try to
Speaker 5: tell myself and others is that the plan that we
Speaker 5: pray for isn't always the plan or the path that
Speaker 5: God provides us. We have to be willing. We've got
Speaker 5: to be humble enough and willing to listen and to
Speaker 5: adapt and overcome because He's listening and everything is in
Speaker 5: his time. And we have to also realize that the
Speaker 5: plan isn't like yours. That there's a reason that God
Speaker 5: wanted you to work at the post office for a month.
Speaker 5: You may not know that now, you may understand that
Speaker 5: a year from now or ten years from now, but
Speaker 5: He has a plan for us. And uh, I've heard
Speaker 5: people similar to have dreams like that. But that's amazing too,
Speaker 5: that you know this God pounding the firmament here in
Speaker 5: the reverberations looking down seeing Jesus.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I forget that. It was just it was so
Speaker 6: vivid and.
Speaker 1: For years I didn't dream because when you're high all
Speaker 1: the time, it cuts off the rem stage of your sleep.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you.
Speaker 1: Don't really dream, you know. And so this was a
Speaker 1: dream I'll never forget, you know. And I've had dreams
Speaker 1: since then, not of not of God or anything like that,
Speaker 1: just sure dreams that I.
Speaker 6: Don't remember, Like I don't remember when I drunk last night.
Speaker 6: I know I did, but I don't remember what it was,
Speaker 6: you know. But this is something that definitely I'll never forget.
Speaker 6: I mean I can.
Speaker 1: I can close my eyes now and see it in
Speaker 1: my It's there, you know. And it was just it
Speaker 1: was amazing and another thing that's helped me along with
Speaker 1: my faith too, which is crazy. And I know you've
Speaker 1: heard of this, the show that Chosen Yeah, I seen
Speaker 1: that at all.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen it. I feel like a listener to
Speaker 5: have mentioned it in the past.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, you should give it a try.
Speaker 5: It's oh the one Why the Last Supper?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the season five, And I haven't started that
Speaker 1: yet because I know I have the Chosen app So
Speaker 1: I've seen seasons one through four and five just came out,
Speaker 1: so I need to get back on it and started
Speaker 1: watching it again. But just the way Jesus is portrayed
Speaker 1: in that is obviously I don't know because I've ever
Speaker 1: met the man, but that's when I picture Jesus. That
Speaker 1: the way they portray him in that show, that's him.
Speaker 1: And it's not about religion, it's not about it's just
Speaker 1: about his love, you know, and how he is so
Speaker 1: non judgmental. You know, who did he hang out with,
Speaker 1: you know, it was almost the worst of the worst people,
Speaker 1: you know, murders, tax collectors, prostitutes. Those are the people
Speaker 1: that he brought into his circle, helped say the.
Speaker 6: World, you know. Yeah, it's just amazing.
Speaker 5: I always remember the story when he was eating with
Speaker 5: the tax collectors and the Roman soldiers, I think, and
Speaker 5: they're like, Jesus, what do you doing and kind of
Speaker 5: the reference to you know, the hospital isn't full of
Speaker 5: healthy people, it's full of sick people. And that's what
Speaker 5: he was there. He was basically, you know, being with
Speaker 5: people who needed him, right. And we see on social
Speaker 5: media somebody will put a picture of, you know, a
Speaker 5: person with purple hair and tattoos, which you allow this
Speaker 5: person in church? Well you better if not, you're not
Speaker 5: a church, because a church is more than just a
Speaker 5: place of like minded spiritual people to hang out together
Speaker 5: and worship. It's also a place to bring people in
Speaker 5: to show them Christ and how to live in a
Speaker 5: godly manner, and that that is so important. By the
Speaker 5: way you had mentioned this show, it's pretty impressive that
Speaker 5: this was actually the initial season was fund with, is
Speaker 5: financed through crowdfunding, and it's going five seasons and now
Speaker 5: I guess it's a movie in the theaters and it's
Speaker 5: grossed over one hundred and twenty million dollars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's nuts because on the app you
Speaker 1: can go on and you can donate or have a
Speaker 1: gift shop, so anything that you buy from the gift shop,
Speaker 1: all the money goes through the proceeds of making the film.
Speaker 1: But it it is just it's such a beautiful story,
Speaker 1: and like I said, I strongly urge to watch it.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of episodes that just really stand out
Speaker 1: to me that every single time I watched it, Like
Speaker 1: I've seen seasons one through four, probably three or four
Speaker 1: different times now, but every single time with a couple
Speaker 1: of these few episodes I watched, I can't help it,
Speaker 1: but I'm I got the waterfalls are falling down my face,
Speaker 1: you know, and you just have this over overcome a
Speaker 1: feeling of just wonder and amazement at this man. You know,
Speaker 1: it was here is here for us, you know, and
Speaker 1: the love that he has for everybody is just something
Speaker 1: that you know, it's crazy, you know, it's hard to
Speaker 1: put into words, and it's just when you watch the show,
Speaker 1: it's just like.
Speaker 6: To me, it's just it's so.
Speaker 1: Like I said on point to what the story of
Speaker 1: Jesus is, and I don't go to church.
Speaker 6: I have.
Speaker 1: I have trouble wanting to go to church because I
Speaker 1: don't know, there's just so many things. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to disrespect anybody because like I said, I'm no
Speaker 1: way I try to be a judgmental person or anything
Speaker 1: like that, but it just seems like church is so
Speaker 1: and the ones that I have been to when I
Speaker 1: was younger, you have they felt like, for instance, you know,
Speaker 1: you have Easter, you have Halloween, you have Christmas, but
Speaker 1: none of those have to do with anything of our religion,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, December twenty fifth, they're all pagan holidays.
Speaker 1: But during those times of the year there's the church
Speaker 1: is celebrating this, and I'm not against it. To me,
Speaker 1: when I celebrate Christmas, it has nothing to do with God,
Speaker 1: it just has something to do with It's more about
Speaker 1: just being family, you know, enjoying this the season.
Speaker 6: But you know, I've been listening a lot to.
Speaker 1: The Christian Conspiracy podcast by Josh Monday. You know that one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did a podcast with him. I don't remember
Speaker 5: if it was this one or the Fact Donner. We
Speaker 5: did a collaboration about a year or two ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And uh, I've been learning a lot because he Uh,
Speaker 1: I love his podcasts great and the branding Kroll.
Speaker 6: I know he was on your show before.
Speaker 1: Learning just I mean, that kid is amazingly smart. The
Speaker 1: Word of God, it just blows my mind and you
Speaker 1: start to learn all this stuff. But the church just
Speaker 1: seems like, you know, it's more of a show and
Speaker 1: it's not so much.
Speaker 6: It's not personal. You know, you sit there, you go
Speaker 6: to church, You sit.
Speaker 1: There in church and you listen to some guy read
Speaker 1: out of the book and see a couple of songs
Speaker 1: and say a couple of prayers and it's over. It's
Speaker 1: there's no dialect, there's no back and forth communication between anybody.
Speaker 1: It's just what they're going to say on that Sunday.
Speaker 1: Then it's over. And that's something I kind of long for,
Speaker 1: and that's where I ry I.
Speaker 6: Really loved these podcasts.
Speaker 1: I kind of look at them as my church, even
Speaker 1: so I'm not directly involved in it. I can listen
Speaker 1: to the people, the guests that come on and talk
Speaker 1: about similar interest and learn new things, and I might
Speaker 1: disagree with some of the things that they say, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that, you know, I have any ill
Speaker 1: will or disrespect to someone, you know, because no one's
Speaker 1: going to agree with everybody on every single topic. And
Speaker 1: that's just what's so frustrating with this world that I
Speaker 1: absolutely like, For instance, social media.
Speaker 6: I can't stand social media. I hate social media.
Speaker 1: Do I find myself flipping through Instagram and looking at
Speaker 1: the pictures and TikTok It's like yeah, And then I'm like,
Speaker 1: just because you know, out of habit, you end up
Speaker 1: doing this stuff. And I realized, I've just spent fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty minutes, thirty minutes scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, and all I'm
Speaker 1: seeing is just argument, fighting and sex and evil, and
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's crazy and It's like if you
Speaker 1: don't agree with somebody, that automatically you're disrespecting that person.
Speaker 1: And it's just I don't understand how this world has
Speaker 1: gotten so full of that kind of conflict, you know,
Speaker 1: where it's like, if you don't agree with me, then
Speaker 1: you're wrong and you must hate me, so I hate you.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, we could learn to agree, to
Speaker 1: disagree but still get along respectfully, you know. And that's
Speaker 1: the biggest problem I'm having with like this world right
Speaker 1: now is just the constant, just the constant bickering, you know,
Speaker 1: over everything, whether it's politics, whether it's religion, whether it's vaccines,
Speaker 1: whether it's whatever it may be. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: a constant battle of nonsense vickery.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's meant all of it. They use all of
Speaker 5: it to divide in Congress. They really absolutely one hundred
Speaker 5: percent and divided. What is it? United? We stand? Divided,
Speaker 5: we fall, and we we play into their hands every time,
Speaker 5: whether it's Ukraine, Russia, Iran, Israel, or you name it.
Speaker 5: You're right. Much of social media is accessible and I've
Speaker 5: got off of Facebook and Instagram. The only reason I
Speaker 5: have a Twitter account is because a I was broadcasting
Speaker 5: our radio show from there, and b I just I
Speaker 5: don't go to CNN or Fox News or any of that,
Speaker 5: so I do use it a bit as a Most
Speaker 5: of the accounts I've linked to are just kind of
Speaker 5: ocent intelligence news agencies where just to kind of get
Speaker 5: an idea of what's going on in the world. But yeah,
Speaker 5: it is, it is very much. Uh, I'm not a fan.
Speaker 5: In a bit, I wanted to jump back in really
Speaker 5: quick because we're down to our last few minutes. If
Speaker 5: we could, uh, if you could get me, do you
Speaker 5: have your your do you have six silk silver bullets?
Speaker 5: Or even if you don't, Uh, what proofs of fly
Speaker 5: earth are the most important to you?
Speaker 6: I've got a few.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think about this, and so many
Speaker 1: of them have been said before. But you know, like
Speaker 1: one is just your senses stand outside. You know, you
Speaker 1: feel absolutely nothing. Yet we're flying through a galaxy faster
Speaker 1: ten times faster than the speed of a bullet.
Speaker 6: You know, it makes most sense at all.
Speaker 1: There's the constellations, they never change, They're always there. We
Speaker 1: can see too far. Like I said, driving from Des
Speaker 1: Moines to Colorado, you drive through Nebraska and you see
Speaker 1: for miles you get in the mountains, you're standing on
Speaker 1: top of a mile. You can see three different states
Speaker 1: from certain areas. You know.
Speaker 6: The Bible is another one.
Speaker 1: Genesis when you after you know, when you wake up
Speaker 1: to the fact that everything's been a lie, and then
Speaker 1: you read Genesis, you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, it's right there,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, there's I'm sure there's more like but
Speaker 1: I would say just the biggest ones would be the
Speaker 1: Bible and the fact that you know, we could just
Speaker 1: see too far. And and the other one is if
Speaker 1: they're gonna lie to you about one thing, how can
Speaker 1: you trust anything they say?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and real quick, thanks for saying that, because I
Speaker 5: did want to ask you this question. Then it kind
Speaker 5: of slipped off. Was there a point that you went
Speaker 5: down that moon landing rabbit hole and you know when
Speaker 5: you hit flat Earth? Is that something you immediately sepped
Speaker 5: back to and kind of went, oh that makes sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And another gentleman. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: this gentleman was on your show or not, but I've
Speaker 1: reached out to him because I heard him on the
Speaker 1: firma Mental podcast.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: He goes by the name of Vinnie B. Vinnie from
Speaker 6: the Bronx.
Speaker 1: And I actually a few months ago when I was
Speaker 1: going through some dark times, he had a podcast on
Speaker 1: the Firmamental and some other we're talking about you know,
Speaker 1: depressions and stuff like that. So I just had the
Speaker 1: urge to reach out to him, and uh, he got
Speaker 1: me onto bart Sobrew. And I have heard the name
Speaker 1: before because on YouTube I've seen where he walked around
Speaker 1: with the Bible saying, hey, would you be able to
Speaker 1: put your hand on the Bible and say that you
Speaker 1: went to the moon and you know, getting punched in
Speaker 1: the face or getting.
Speaker 5: Threat fives for them to do it right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: or something crazy.
Speaker 1: Then I ended up going onto his website and seeing
Speaker 1: the video the Death the Deathbed Confessions, and uh, I
Speaker 1: actually have his book on my want list from Amazon
Speaker 1: on and once I get a little bit back financially
Speaker 1: stable again, I got quite a few books that are
Speaker 1: on that list that on my list to get.
Speaker 6: And his is one of them.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was just you know, astronauts in space,
Speaker 1: you know when you see all the faker eating space
Speaker 1: you know on YouTube, the bubbles in space and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's there's no way we went to the Moon.
Speaker 1: That the one of a Natari sixteen hundred. We have
Speaker 1: ten times the power of that in our pockets right now.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's the only it's the only technology
Speaker 1: that we've gone backwards in. You know, we don't you
Speaker 1: don't lose that technology, you know. You know every year
Speaker 1: they say we're going back, We're going back, We're going back,
Speaker 1: and then.
Speaker 6: It's just nothing.
Speaker 1: But this rocket exploded.
Speaker 6: We can't go because of the weather.
Speaker 1: This is the you know, there's.
Speaker 6: Always excuse, excuse, excuse.
Speaker 1: If we had really gone back to the Moon way
Speaker 1: back then, in the early sixties, we would already have
Speaker 1: you know, commercial flights there like.
Speaker 3: Everything else were.
Speaker 6: There'll be McDonald's on there. People would be going up
Speaker 6: for vacations by now.
Speaker 5: Exactly are you on the Disney World now, I'm going
Speaker 5: to the.
Speaker 1: Moon right exactly?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: By the way, a movie he did that was really
Speaker 5: good is a funny thing happened on the Way to
Speaker 5: the Moon. And I put that link out. I put
Speaker 5: that link in the show notes and then click on
Speaker 5: his actual channel and he's got a bunch of good
Speaker 5: stuff there. Nice guy. I chatted with him two or
Speaker 5: three years ago. Really nice guy. Not a fat flat
Speaker 5: Earth guy yet.
Speaker 1: But he's got the faith.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, he's a good man. He's a very good
Speaker 5: man living. I think he lives in the Philippines now.
Speaker 1: Does he.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't blame him at all.
Speaker 5: After he saw that video of Hey, should I call
Speaker 5: the CIA, He's probably like, I need to move out
Speaker 5: of the country.
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well man, it's been an awesome conversation and I'm
Speaker 5: so glad we were finally able to connect and to
Speaker 5: make this happen and uh, you know, sharing your story
Speaker 5: and it's truly been a really awesome conversation. You're a
Speaker 5: good man and I can't thank you enough for the
Speaker 5: time that you spent with us this evening. But as
Speaker 5: always we'd like to give you the final words, so
Speaker 5: by all means.
Speaker 1: Sure and absolutely and George, it's been all the honors
Speaker 1: on this side here.
Speaker 6: Like I said, it's it's kind of.
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing that listening to average conversation, because you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like I know you from the past two
Speaker 1: years and listen to your show almost every day and
Speaker 1: then every week. I mean there is in an episode
Speaker 1: I have not listened to just heard the last one
Speaker 1: that you just put out with Frank from uh my
Speaker 1: neighbor up in Minnesota. There. That was a really good one,
Speaker 1: but uh no, thank you, thank you for all that
Speaker 1: you do. I hope you don't have any plans to
Speaker 1: end it anytime soon. Ah. I love your other podcast too,
Speaker 1: The Fact Hunter. It's really good, but no final words
Speaker 1: is just mm hmm. I just wish people we could
Speaker 1: be better. You know, we need to stop with the division.
Speaker 1: We got to stop falling into their traps, and we
Speaker 1: just need to be able to come together and learn
Speaker 1: how to live despite our differences cohesively and just you know,
Speaker 1: have faith.
Speaker 6: That's you know, that's all really.
Speaker 1: Yeah said. It's just been an absolute honor to be
Speaker 1: able to talk with you finally, so I thank you
Speaker 1: very much.
Speaker 5: Likewise, it was an honor to talk to you. And
Speaker 5: you're right, we need to get everyone to understand if
Speaker 5: we really want to make leaps and bounds of differences,
Speaker 5: we need to stop looking to government to solve our problems.
Speaker 5: We can solve all of it just by getting together
Speaker 5: and like you said, putting our petty differences aside and
Speaker 5: looking out because we all want what's best for our children.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: The people who get the airtime on the news, the
Speaker 5: crazy people, the guys who dress up as women, and
Speaker 5: the drag queen story time. That is, while it should
Speaker 5: be attended to and we should protect our children from that,
Speaker 5: it is still the very much the minority, and most
Speaker 5: people just want to be able to live life and
Speaker 5: you know, happy, and to take care of their children.
Speaker 5: And I think if we would just remove the government
Speaker 5: element which is so divisive, we could make leaps and bounds.
Speaker 5: But again that that's something that will continue to work
Speaker 5: on and pray for. So again, Brett, thanks so much
Speaker 5: for your time, and to all the listeners, thank you
Speaker 5: so much for your continued support. And if you'd like
Speaker 5: to share your story like Brett did this evening, please
Speaker 5: send us an email f E files guest at gmail
Speaker 5: dot com and we'll get the questionnaire out to you
Speaker 5: and I'll do the best to get you scheduled at
Speaker 5: this point August. So there you go. God bless you all,
Speaker 5: keep your head on a swivel, have a wonderful week,
Speaker 5: and until we meet again, my friends, we will see you.
Speaker 3: I know it's been struggle. I don't know you've had spain.
Speaker 3: I know you feeling time hell down all the way. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know you feeling you smile the same gold found
Speaker 3: you feel like you've lost your way. Don't give up, No,
Speaker 3: don't give it. Never is home.
Speaker 8: Don't let call the primise it ain't done yet.
Speaker 3: He's got a glad Why it's a.
Speaker 9: Way got up y come? Why wait?
Speaker 4: God m recall, I can see the straight beside you.
Speaker 3: Child's are putting up five.
Speaker 10: Oh you're stronger than anything you are. Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 10: be all right. You're accepting a dead found you beautiful
Speaker 10: you shout. I'm then ride, Yeah, you're live and breathe.
Speaker 3: Move you can hold your head of hide. Don't give up, No,
Speaker 3: don't give in. Never loss home. Don't they gone on
Speaker 3: the primies? It ain't done yet? This god up?
Speaker 8: Play wha a waintil the God of me come, don't
Speaker 8: give up, No, don't give in you never love home.
Speaker 3: Don't let go on the primies. It ain't don of
Speaker 3: likeness worth then men, wat's a way down.
Speaker 9: The God of baby called, why surprise now?
Speaker 3: Got up steamy call?
Speaker 9: Oh, yes, what surprise now the god up? Stay?
Speaker 3: Call?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, got.
Speaker 11: That, don't give up, No, don't give in. Never the
Speaker 11: hol do they go of the primis I mean and done.
Speaker 11: Yeah's got a plan. What's kind of in a cops
Speaker 11: and don't give up? No dog giving whatever the home
Speaker 11: do they go of the primes? It ain't done lovers
Speaker 11: but live in works and died, the god of every cols.
Speaker 3: Oh, the god of needs.
Speaker 12: Why God, you're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network.
Speaker 12: Just the facts, ma'amy.