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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody back to the Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast.

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I am here with my cowboy hat and my Coors beer,

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and Jason is here with his trucker hat and his

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nineteen seventies mustache.

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Speaker 2: Cheers Jason, What are you drinking that curs beer for dye.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm thirsty dummy.

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Speaker 3: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Surely You Can't Be

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Serious Podcast, discussing and debating the iconic and the forgotten

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of eighties and nineties.

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Speaker 1: Pop culture with your co hosts James D.

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Speaker 2: Graves and Jason Caliphic Mercy Sakes. Mercy Sakes like Lester

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and Earl and Fred and Ginger together again. Today we're

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going to be talking about two fantastic buddy movies. I

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mean two favorites, right, maybe Got Smoking the Bandit versus

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Cannonball Run.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. This is not an easy contest. This is going

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to be in the realm of Bold Durham versus Major League,

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where you get two movies that are so stinking good

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it's hard to pick one as the best.

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Speaker 2: They are guilty pleasures to the core. I love these movies.

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I can put them on any time, and I guaranteed

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to laugh.

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Speaker 1: So with two great movies like this, we have to

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ask the question, why are we doing this? What is

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our purpose on going to this impossible mission to decide

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which of these two movies is the best.

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Speaker 2: We're doing this for the good old American life, for

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the money, for the glory, and for the fun.

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Speaker 1: Mostly for the fun, right because money, no money.

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Speaker 2: There's no money involved here.

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Speaker 1: Before we do that, we want to give a few

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quick shout outs a couple of Facebook folks that we

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want to say hi to. The first one is Ali

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Zara and Derek l. We noticed he was commenting to

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folks about us, and he messaged us to suggest a matchup,

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and it's just awesome. We can't tell you. The most

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important thing to us is that if you love us,

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you share us with your friends. That's the best thing

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that we can have. Is because we want to make

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the as big a family and community as we can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, man. I'm so excited that people are

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hearing us and enjoining us and sharing it. We got

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a shout out from a guy named Christopher Weber. He's

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a physical therapist in New Orleans. Christopher, thank you so

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much for listening, he messaged us and said that he's

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sharing with his friends and enjoys us and so Christopher,

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thank you so much for sharing us. That helps us

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get discovered by other people.

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Speaker 1: And then one final shout out to Ken Wilson Junior.

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He is a friend of the show, always involved with

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us on Facebook, and just a great guy. He had

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actually hit us up about a Gunter contest. He had

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created one and we were supposed to do a clue

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for him. But before we could get together and do

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the clue together, somebody already figured it out and won

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the prize. So he sent us a message that says,

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looks like we don't need to announce the clue. Someone

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claimed the prize this morning. A Gunter named Limited from

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Discord Ready Player one group was the winner. So congratulation Limited, Ken.

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Sorry we missed out on this one, but we definitely

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want to do some more Gunter stuff in the future.

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Can't wait.

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Speaker 2: That's right, we are big Ready Player one fans.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's talk about these two movies, because

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these two movies defy reason. You know, we've talked about

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the Greek structure of Raiders of the Lost Arc and

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Back to the Future and the hero's journey and the

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depth in Bull Durham and all of these things. And

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these are two movies that don't really have a plot,

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should I do?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you guys going to pick up some beer

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as fast as possible, loosest loosest of terms.

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Speaker 1: So I guess maybe maybe our story begins back in

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the eighteen hundreds when Adolph Cours stows away on an

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oil freighter across the Atlantic, ends up in America, travels

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his way out west where he ends up in Golden Colorado,

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and is the only guy with any beer making experience,

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so he becomes the local brewer. And what do they get?

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We get Coors beer. And that is the impetus for

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the first of these movies. Come out Smoking the Bandit.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Smoking the vandit for a second. Okay,

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Smoking the Bandit was released on June twentieth, nineteen seventy seven.

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The budget for this get this five million dollars, okay, five.

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Speaker 1: Point three don't forget three hundred thousand dollars is a

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, five point three million dollars right. One million

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of it went to Burt Reynolds, so that left four

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point three right, And then they brought in a hatchetman

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at the last minute. Yea, he knocked off a million

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dollars off the budget, right.

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Speaker 1: So how need him bent thirty hours redoing the script

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to get it to where they could shoot the movie

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for the money that they had to make it with.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about how this movie came about. Yeah,

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so how neat him is a stunt man. He was

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arguably the best stuntman in the business for quite some time,

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had been doing it for years and years. And he's

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good old boy, and as good old boys do, they

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drink beer. And so somebody got him a gift of

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some Coors beer, and he wasn't a big drinker, but

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he noticed that he seemed to be going through a

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lot of In fact, he seemed to be going through

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cours whenever he wasn't drinking, And so he realized somebody

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was stealing his Coors beer, and lo and behold.

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Speaker 1: It turned out to be the maid. The maid stole

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the beer, and when he confronted her about it, she

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was just like, well, my husband just loves this so much.

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He just says it's the best beer that's ever made,

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and we're not allowed to get it out here, And

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so that's why I was sneaking it from you, And

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that little thieving maid was the inspiration for the whole plot,

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if you will call it, that of Smoking the Bandit.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. This happened on the set of the movie Gator,

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which was shot in nineteen seventy six, right before Smoking

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the Bandit. And in Gator you have starring Burt Reynolds,

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Jerry Reid is the bad guy and how Neatam is

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the stuntman. Yeah. So he just thought, well, bootlegging Coors

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would make a good plot line for a movie. And

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you know what, he was right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, so while they're making Gator, he's trying to

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write the script for this movie idea that he's and

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he writes it all on the legal pad and some

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years earlier, I don't remember what the circumstances were, but

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he was out of home for a bit and said, hey, Bert,

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can I crash on your couch for a few weeks?

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And Bert said sure, and then they were roommates for

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the next eleven years. Right, So he's writing this script

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on the legal pad and thinks he's got this great concept,

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got the whole movie written on the breaks of Gator,

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and he shows it to Bert, and Bert Reynolds says,

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this is the worst script I've ever read in my

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whole life, but I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: You know, originally they wanted Jerry Reid to be the Bandit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I had to wait for Smoking in the Bandit

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three for that one kind of mentioned that the same

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way we mentioned Superman four. Yeah, and Crystal Skull. Hell.

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Speaker 2: Needham had a lot of trouble getting any studio to

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get involved in this or have any interest at all,

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until Bert Reynolds said, you know what, I'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Burt Reynolds said that after he agreed to do this,

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he had friends that got down on their knees and

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begged him not to do this movie.

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Speaker 1: You got you gotta just think about that for just

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a second. Okay, he's the biggest star of the day.

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you look at this movie that nobody wanted him to do,

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that he said, was the worst script ever. That was

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being written and directed by a stunt man who had

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never done any of those things before other than as

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a second unit guy, and you got to think, how

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the heck did this movie become the movie that everybody

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remembers and practically nobody cares about Gator, right, or whatever

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any of those other movies that came in.

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Speaker 2: Right, name five Burt Reynolds movies. And I guarantee you're

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starting off with smoking the Band at Canniball, Run Yep,

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Deliverance probably you know something like that, right, Okay, So

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as they're putting this together, Burt Reynolds says, yeah, I'll

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do it. And I got my buddy Jerry Reid, who

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we just shot Gator, and he's going to play my

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buddy Snowman in this. And he said, I need my

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love interest. And they said, okay, well who are we

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going to hire for this? And Burt Reynolds had always

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kind of been smitten with Sally Field, the flying Nun. Yeah,

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and she was not really looked at as a sexy actress.

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Speaker 1: She's kind of a I didn't think she was attractive enough.

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Speaker 2: But he really wanted her to do it. And when

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he talked to her. She thought, you know what, I

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be seen as attractive and sexy. And if Hollywood's number

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one leading man thinks I'm sexy, then maybe everybody else

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will think I'm sexy. Sure, So she was like, you

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know what, I think I will do this, And especially

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since she just got done doing a movie called Sybil,

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which is about a woman with multiple personalities.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's her age and on this they were like,

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you need to do a big movie. You need to

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do these you know, you've you've been the flying Nun,

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you've done these TV bits, you've done the weird Sibyl thing.

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got some big stars in it. And so how nice

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that Burt Reynolds is the one that's knocking on her door.

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Speaker 2: So then they they're looking for the role of who's

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gonna play Sheriff Beauford t Justice of Texas. And so

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they originally looked at this guy, Richard Boone. Are you

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familiar with him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? He was on the have gun We'll travel, Have Gun,

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We'll travel. It is the heart of them man. A

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night without armors?

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Speaker 2: Nice?

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Speaker 1: Then I'm getting it all from stand By Me. I

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didn't watch that show.

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Speaker 2: That's where I know it from to stand by Me.

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and a lot funnier.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got him.

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Speaker 2: Jackie freaking Gleason.

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Speaker 1: Jackie freaking Gleason, man, amazing. I said it just a

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little bit earlier tonight. I was talking to our friend

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Arlen about this movie. These are two of his favorites

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as well, and I said it without Jackie Gleason smoking

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the band, it doesn't become the thing that it is.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I totally agree. I totally agree. In fact, for

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this podcast, I went through the movie. I watched the

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movie and I wrote down every funny line, and I

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basically wrote down everything that Jackie Gleason says.

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Speaker 1: Right, he's hilarious. These are the two movies if you

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pick two movies from the seventies and eighties that you

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think of when you say Burt Reynolds, it's these two movies.

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And in both of the movies, he's along for the ride.

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I mean, he's great, but he's not the guy that

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makes the movie. He's just there giving his star power

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and letting everybody else make you laugh.

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Speaker 2: I call you the band Okay. We talked about this

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briefly the other day, but I asked you who is

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the best at their role in this movie. Burt Reynolds

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plays Bandit to a t. I mean, people love the

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bandit and he's cool and he's smooth, and he's funny,

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and he's out.

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Speaker 1: The mischievousness and the laughing at the situation that makes

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his part in this movie. It's not that he's done

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some great acting performance. He does. We talked about Eddie

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of these movies. Yes, and freakantastic because he's letting you know, hey, guys,

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come on, let's go for a ride, seriously letting the

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audience in. It's great.

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Speaker 2: He's like a redneck James Bond. I mean he's cool

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and funny and laid back and come on and party

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with me. We're gonna have a great time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Bert does a great job. Jerry Reid as the buddy,

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as the trucker snowman, likable, funny, He gives this the

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flavor of the movie with the trucker talk and the CB.

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Speaker 1: Knowing that he's the villain in Gator seems weird to

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me because I just he's just seems like such a

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nice guy. It's hard to imagine him as the villain, right,

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He's actually, I mean, kind of a tough guy. You're

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kind of scared of him in that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, at the beginning, you see this friendship when

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Bandit shows up at his house and basically just moves

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his wife out of the way and goes into his bedroom. Oh,

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you know, we got a chance to make a lot

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of money, and Jerry's like, well, we got to do

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kidnap the pope or something. That whole the friendship is great,

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you get you I buy their friendship. But then you've

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got Jackie Leeson as the sheriff.

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Speaker 1: It's just fan freakantastic.

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Speaker 2: Everything is funny.

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Speaker 1: Sally Field is acceptable in the part. She's pretty enough

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and sexy enough, and she's engaging. There's just something enticing

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about her. And Bert Reynolds we've talked about, Jerry Reed,

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we've talked about, but Jackie Gleason is the man in

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this movie.

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Speaker 2: You know. And Jackie Gleeson was originally just supposed to

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be in the car by himself, but he's like, you

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know what I need somebody to play off of. Put

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somebody in the car with me and Mike Henry Junior Justice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Henry, who's just I mean, he's like a

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Greek god. I mean, he's just. He was Tarzan, he

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was a football player. He was in the longest yard

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and was one of those tough guys. And he plays

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that goofy who Daddy the top came off to a

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tea to a tea he does. I mean, his the

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entire dial that he has during this movie probably doesn't

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fill up an entire paragraph, but it is essential for

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all of Jackie Gleeson's comedy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, basically, his direction is to stand there

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and be a punching bag for Jackie Gleeson, and Jackie

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Gleeson is like, you want something, He's like, hush puppies, Daddy,

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we ain't got time for that crap.

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Speaker 1: Hilarious hush puppies. Why. So, that's the other thing about

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this movie. We talked about the fact that Burt Reynolds

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read hol Needham's Legal Pad script and said, this is terrible,

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worst I've ever read. Right, they didn't have a script

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that they stuck to, Like number one script was just

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an outline and then number two, the first day of

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filming they find out, oh crap, we've got to eliminate

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half of our scenes because of our budget cut. And

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so it was really just okay, guys, here's the situation.

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Make up some.

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Speaker 2: Stuff, right, and who better to do that with than

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Jackie Gleeson. In fact, I mean, well, I know we'll

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get in all this. But the restaurant scene where Bandit

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and Beauverty Justice meet was not in the original script,

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but it was suggested by Jackie Leeson. And it's gold.

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It's gold.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's absolutely fantastic. Cleans his tie off with his coffee.

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Jackie Leeson is spitting in his face.

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Speaker 2: You mean dieblo sandwich and a great big doctor pepper

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and make it fast. I'm gonna hurry.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what this is a mystery to me.

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And if you've got the answer, I'd love to hear,

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because I couldn't find it. So Jackie Gleesion says to

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Helen Edam, we need to have this scene where Smokey

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and the Bandit meet. They set up the scene. He

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comes in, He's brilliant. Burt Reynolds is really just reacting

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most of the time. But at some point, either while

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they're filming the scene or just after they film the scene,

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Burt Reynolds goes to hell Needam and says, I'm not

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doing any more scenes with Jackie.

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Speaker 2: I know that drives me insane. I wish I know

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what the reason was. Yeah, So what I read was

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there was no explanation and there was no insinuation of anything.

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Bert was just like, I'm not doing that anymore. And

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maybe it was because he knew Jackie was killing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe he felt like he was getting upstaged.

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That's certainly possibility, kind of.

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Speaker 2: Like sharing a scene with Robin Williams. I mean, you

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just got to get out of the way and let

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him go to work, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, right. And I can understand if you're a huge

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star like that having that concern, But I mean, we're

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talking about Jackie freaking Gleason. Man. Maybe it's because he

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didn't like getting spit on.

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Speaker 2: I got some Diablo juice in my eye here.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody please stick around. We will be right

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back after these messages.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jackie Gleeson, I don't know if you know this

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or not. Jackie Gleeson was offered a percentage of the

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gross box office versus a straight salary. But he took

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the salary and it cost him millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Well, I can't blame him. Looking at the situation,

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I cannot blame him, right, but ouch, that sucks.

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Speaker 2: Just to stick the knife in a little bit further.

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This was the second and biggest movie in nineteen seventy seven,

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second only to Star Wars, which you know, might have

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heard of that one, Yeah, yeah, did pretty well the

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box office for Smoking the Bandit one hundred and twenty

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six million dollars on.

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Speaker 1: A budget of five four four four point three then

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a million going to birth right. That's right. Just think

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about that. Just think about your entire budget. A quarter

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of it goes to one actor in the movie.

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Speaker 2: You have three, you have four point three left to

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pay Sally Field, Jerry Reid, Jackie Gleason and buy about

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five trans ams and five cop cars and chase them

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all over the world. It's it's it's insane.

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Speaker 1: So, in addition to being in the movie, Jerry Reid

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wrote east Bound and Down, which is the key song

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in the movie. Right, huge, huge for the movie came

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in played it for how Needham and how Needham just

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kind of stared at him for a second and he

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was like, it's okay, I can go I go rewrite it.

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I'll go rewrite it. And how Needam says, no, this

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song is going to be a hit. Do not change

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word of it, and he was absolutely right. It was

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Jerry Reid's number one song.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's huge. You walk up to somebody on the

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street and you say, what do you remember about smoking

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the Man and they're like, well, bird's mustache and eastbounding

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down yep. You know.

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Speaker 1: They do a part where they say westbounding down, like

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when they're headed Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, when they're headed to text Arcana. That's brilliant

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westbounding down, which sounds a little bit funny. They make

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it to text Arkana and like the first fifteen minutes

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of the movie, right, yes, they have no trouble making

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it to text Arcana.

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Speaker 1: Right yeah? And why why is that? No?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you have less concern when you don't have a

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semi truck full of bootlegged beer. It was Cores that

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didn't want their beer going out anywhere other than the

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eleven states they had distribution in because they didn't put

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additives in their beer, then put preservatives in there, and

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so if you let them get hot, they would go

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bad really quickly. But they didn't want to spend all

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the money on the refrigerated trucks. So it was Coors

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who was fighting the nationwide distribution. They just wanted to

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deliver to their eleven states and that be it. But yeah,

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they got sued in a couple of different circumstances and

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finally just had to go, well, I guess we're gonna

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have to spend the money because people want us to

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have They had become in eleventh they were in eleven states,

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and they had become the fourth most popular beer in

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the US. Number one was Budweiser, the other one was

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Phapsed and the other one was like Schlitch. I mean,

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it's like two other beers that just nobody drinks anymore.

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And then Coors, which I'm almost done with my second one,

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so yours?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you are thirsty. Do we want to talk about

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the plot now or do we want to talk about

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Kenniball run?

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Speaker 1: No? I mean we can we can do the plot.

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I mean it's gonna take about thirty seconds.

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Speaker 2: To Okay, So the plot of the movie. The plot

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of the movie is Bandit, whose actual name is Bo

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Danville Barville.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, a quick shout out to warm Bowled because

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he's the other part of the reason I'm drinking a

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beer while we're doing our podcast when we did our

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podcast with the thirty something guys. Shout out to the

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thirty something guys. Shout out to Bo for drinking a beer.

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You've inspired me to have a beer while we're doing

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our podcast.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, So Bandit's real name is Bo Darville.

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They don't say his full name at anytime in the movie.

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mentions that, but he his handle, his cebe handle, is Bandit,

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and he is a truck rodeo superstar, okay, because there

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aren't such things as that, exactly. He's a legend, a legend,

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and a nautiwork bom look a lot of leg daddy.

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So big Enis and little Enis are our father and son.

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Speaker 1: And they stop and talk about their name for just

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a second. Let's just this whole big Enus and little Enis.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there was just purely coincidental that they were

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going to do that.

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Speaker 1: It was actually not their original names they had, they

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had different different.

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Speaker 2: That was like Kyle and Dean or something like that.

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But yeah, not funny enough.

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Speaker 1: Okay, not funny at all. Speaking of Enus, I think

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Enis and bo right, I think John Schneider might have

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been been a cameo.

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Speaker 2: Both Duke Cooter and Enism Dukes of Hazard.

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Speaker 1: All three of those guys are in this in in

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a little bit parts that's it?

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Speaker 2: You got yea, and Burt Reynolds plays Boss Hog in

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the remake of Dukes of Hazzard.

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Speaker 1: It all comes full circle.

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Speaker 2: Are we back on the plot here?

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Speaker 1: Did we leave? I thought we were down with the plots.

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Speaker 2: We're not quite done with the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Running beer the end, that's all.

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Speaker 2: No. No, So Big Enis and Little Lenis are Texas

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oil bearings, as we think, and they just go around

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and put people up to these weird, strange bets. And

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so he wants Bandit to get off his butt and

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accept a real challenge and go pick up four hundred

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cases of Coors beer from Texarkana, Texas transport him back

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to Atlanta for a rodeo in twenty eight hours or less.

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Speaker 1: Why Cooors beer?

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Speaker 2: Because he's thirsty dummy. The kicker is is that transporting

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Coors beer east of the Mississippi is bootlegging, and so

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it's illegal what he's doing. And not only is it fast,

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but it's illegal, right, So he gets his buddy Snowman

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to drive the truck. They're gonna put the four hundred

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cases of Cours in the truck, and the trans am

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is running blocker, which basically means he gets all the

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attention from the cops and he runs all over the

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place and lets Snowman in the clear. Along the way,

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he picks up a runaway bride, Carrie played by Sally Field,

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who's running away from her marriage to Junior Justice, who

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is Sheriff Beaufort Justice's son, and Beaufort Justice is the

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type of man who is not gonna lit some koozy

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walk out on him, whether Knocker's bouncing around, poondanging was wiggling.

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Speaker 1: Two.

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Speaker 2: She insulted my towne, she insulted my son, and she

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insulted my authority. And so she jumps in the car

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with Bandit while he's transporting this beer, and he makes

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it his life mission to catch and put away Bandit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so they get this challenge by Big Nis and

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Little Nis right with me so far?

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Speaker 2: I believe you're just a little bit scared. Oh that's great.

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Why don't you just say something about my mother? Your

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mama is so ugly?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So can you name me the artist that has

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had songs sung bye? Ready for this? Okay? Elvis Presley,

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Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Barbara streisand Willie Nelson, Kermit the Frog,

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Luther Van Dross, Neil McCoy, and Diamond Riot. To me,

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it's Paul Williams, the actor play in the part of

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Little Enis and he is a pastic prodigy. It is amazing.

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I mean he and I throw the carpenters in there

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as well. He's responsible for just an old fashioned love

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song out in the country, family Man, Rainy Days and

470
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Mondays and Rainbow Connection and this this might be the

471
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best the love boat theme.

472
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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

473
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Speaker 1: It is right. He is a flipping genius and he

474
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was one of just to throw this in. He was

475
00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:42,279
one of the apes on one of the Planet of

476
00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:45,480
the Apes movies that John Landis was a part of too.

477
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Speaker 2: Really, Rainfall Circle. When you say Rainbow Connection, I immediately

478
00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:56,720
why are I mean, that's incredible.

479
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Speaker 1: If anybody's gonna if anybody's gonna pick up anything from

480
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,799
this part podcast, it's that we love the Muppets.

481
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,079
Speaker 2: We love the Muppets. We absolutely love the Muppets.

482
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,559
Speaker 1: We haven't yet had a Muppet movie episode, but we will.

483
00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure, we have to. Yeah, well you want

484
00:24:12,319 --> 00:24:14,480
here's my Muppet tie in. You ready for this? Other

485
00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:18,400
than Rainbow Connection, Cannonball Run, Huh, which is the second

486
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,440
movie we're going to cover. Yes, was released June nineteenth,

487
00:24:21,559 --> 00:24:25,000
nineteen eighty one. Yes, We've talked about this on our

488
00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:29,079
Superman episode. Right, in my opinion, is the greatest two

489
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weeks in nineteen eighties movies history.

490
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Speaker 1: Okayb in movies history overall, right, it is freaking fantastic.

491
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So let me let me read you.

492
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Speaker 2: It just blows my mind. So June twelfth, nineteen eighty one,

493
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you had during this weekend, you had Clash of the Titans,

494
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,960
History of the World and Raiders of the Lost Stark. The

495
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next week, June nineteenth, you have the Cannonball Run Superman two.

496
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The week after that you have Dragonslayer for your eyes

497
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only great Muppet caper and Stripes.

498
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Speaker 1: And as John Reid would say, no, kid had any

499
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:10,119
money in June of nineteen eighty one, No Eloys, all right, everybody,

500
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,720
please stick around. We will be right back after these messages,

501
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,960
he as Sam never been heard.

502
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Speaker 2: So Cannonball Run was released June nineteenth, nineteen eighty one.

503
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Budget was eighteen million, and it made seventy two million

504
00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:30,519
dollars yep and over one hundred million worldwide, but seventy

505
00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:33,079
two here in the States. And that was sixth best

506
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,359
in nineteen eighty one. And I just read that Murderer's

507
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,319
Row of awesome eighties movies.

508
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Speaker 1: So we talked about the inspiration for smoking in the

509
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:44,160
bandit being stolen Coors beer by the maid. The inspiration

510
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:48,400
for Cannonball Run was an actual race. Brocky Eights is

511
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the guy who put on the race. He wrote for

512
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a magazine called The Cannonballer, and he was He's a

513
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car and driver guy. He's very into cars. As we know,

514
00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:00,160
how neat him is as well. How need him, by

515
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,599
the way, was in the first attempt to break the

516
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or not the first attempt, but a famous attempt to

517
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,519
break the sound barrier on land by driving a car

518
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seven hundred miles an hour and at six hundred and

519
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,640
twenty miles an hour. He pushed his shoot and nothing happened.

520
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And then he pushed his second shoot and nothing happened.

521
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And then he pushed his third shoot and nothing happened.

522
00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:24,079
And he was like, oh, crap, I guess I'm just

523
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going to have to push on the brakes with my foot.

524
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And he fortunately wasn't injured. But when he went to inspect,

525
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and this is all that said. This is crazy to me,

526
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he says in his autobiography. And some individual who will

527
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remain nameless, had poured battery acid all over my parachutes.

528
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How do you not name the guy who tried to

529
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murder you? I don't know, I don't what.

530
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Speaker 2: Views pay justice poured battery ascid all over it.

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Speaker 1: So Hal Needham was great friends with Brockyates. They he

532
00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:57,839
had been doing the Cannonball Run race for a while.

533
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This was back whenever fifty five the speed limit across

534
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the United States, and so they thought, okay, well we're

535
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going to do this race and it's just going to

536
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be from coast to coast and everybody gets to pick

537
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:16,359
whatever their own vehicle is and how and Rocky Yates

538
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:22,599
drove a Dodge Van that they camouflaged as an ambulance,

539
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had had a Hemi engine in it. You could put

540
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,279
ninety gallons of gas in there. They had four holes

541
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to put the gas in so that they didn't have

542
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to sit too long to fill up ninety gallons. You

543
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got four hoses going at the same time. And then

544
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whenever they hit the road, they were just going until

545
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there was a traffic gym, and then they turned on

546
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their lights. And he said the cars would part like

547
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the Red Sea.

548
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Speaker 2: I heard him say this. He said the cars would

549
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:59,400
part like Jesus partying in the Red Sea. I'm like, any,

550
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I guess not.

551
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:11,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, this is an actual thing that

552
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,799
he actually did with his buddy Brockiades.

553
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Speaker 1: Yes, the this van would go one hundred and forty

554
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,720
five miles now and that's how fast Hal drove it.

555
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,039
Like when how was driving, it was going one hundred

556
00:28:24,039 --> 00:28:26,839
and forty five miles an hour. And the scene where

557
00:28:26,839 --> 00:28:30,279
they get pulled over by the cops, that actually happened

558
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:33,759
to him, Like he and Brockiates are driving this thing

559
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,400
dressed as EMT's driving across the country. They get pulled

560
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,359
over in Pennsylvania and he's and they get out and

561
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,119
they're like, well where are you you know, where are

562
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,200
you going? Well, this lady's sick, Well where are you

563
00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:50,680
taking her? California? California? Here Pennsylvania. And he was like, well,

564
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:53,079
you know that she's got to go to California. There's

565
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:55,480
something wrong with her. And they're like what is Why

566
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:57,400
didn't you meta flight her? And they're like, I don't know,

567
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,279
asked the doctor, And as it turned out, they had

568
00:29:00,319 --> 00:29:03,720
an actual doctor in the van with him who brought

569
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:07,039
his wife. And when they opened the door, he's back there,

570
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,680
just like Jackie Elum and they're like, hey, why why

571
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,319
didn't couldn't you fly this lady over to California? And

572
00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:18,640
he goes because she has got a serious lung infection.

573
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In fact, it's so serious we couldn't even take the

574
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northern route to California.

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Speaker 2: That it's amazing.

576
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hal Needham said he thought about getting those guys

577
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to play the part of the cops in the movie,

578
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but then thought better of it, which is probably a

579
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good idea.

580
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Speaker 2: I don't getting the actual cops to play the cops.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome, So I got wrong.

582
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Speaker 2: Dun dun, dun. Okay, So Cannonball Run. They thought about

583
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,720
making an action movie was Steve McQueen, but he died.

584
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,160
Then they decided, hey, let's call Burt Reynolds to make

585
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,839
it a comedy, and they paid him. Listen to this,

586
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,240
four weeks of work five million bucks.

587
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the four weeks more than the entire budget for

588
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Smoking in the Bandit.

589
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Speaker 2: Burt Reynolds said after doing the Smoking the Bandit movies,

590
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after he did Smoking the Bandit too, He's like, I'm

591
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never driving a car over thirty five miles an hour

592
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,160
ever again. And they said, oh yeah, how about five

593
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million dollars for four weeks. He's like, done, Yeah, I'm in.

594
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Speaker 1: Hal Needham said when he gave him a call, he

595
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was like, all right, I'll bring this over to you.

596
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I just want you to read the script. But they're

597
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willing to pay you five million dollars four weeks. And

598
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,680
Burt Reynolds said, did you say five million dollars for

599
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,079
four weeks? And he says yeah, And he says, I

600
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don't need the script. I'm in.

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Speaker 2: The actual correct full name of the Canniball Run race

602
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,319
is called the Cannibal Baker See to Shining Sea Memorial

603
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Trophy Dash. Should we go through the plot on this one.

604
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:54,559
Speaker 1: Sure, I've got forty five seconds go.

605
00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: JJ McClure played by Burt Reynolds is an adventurer who

606
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,480
decides to partake in an illegal race across the country, using,

607
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,200
like you said, an ambulance as cover. There's other racers

608
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,599
including Farah Fawcet, Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Junior, Roger

609
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,799
Moore as a very James Bond life character, and Jackie Chan.

610
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,559
They'll do anything, break all the rules to outrun all

611
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:21,000
the difficulties and win the race.

612
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Speaker 1: Well, you've you've forgotten your foil, right, We've got viewfort

613
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:27,799
Justice as the foil for Smoky in the Bandit as

614
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,279
much as he is one, because he's really ineffectual. And

615
00:31:31,319 --> 00:31:37,799
our ineffectual foil for this movie is Arthur Foight, Mister Foyight,

616
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,079
who is brilliant played by George Firth, whose other memorable

617
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,279
part is from Blazing Saddles, which shares the commonality with

618
00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:53,119
these two movies in that completely politically incorrect.

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Speaker 2: Yes, mister Foyd, every time he takes on the cannonball

620
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or something bad happens to him.

621
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he is such a good part of

622
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:03,720
this movie. I love him and I'm gonna give a

623
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,160
shout out to Arlin again. When we were discussing this,

624
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,839
he's like, yeah, you know what, I'm pretty confident he

625
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,319
was named after a race car driver. And I was

626
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:16,640
like what. And it turns out there is a famous

627
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,240
race car driver from this time period named AJ Foyight

628
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,759
who did some amazing things but also had a very

629
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:28,880
memorable like race car toy set. You remember seeing the

630
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,160
AJ Foyight Racing team. I bet some of our listeners

631
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,519
out there will remember that one.

632
00:32:33,559 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: I don't remember that, but I've heard that name before.

633
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:39,079
Speaker 1: So AJ Foyt was the only driver to win the

634
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,839
Indianapolis five hundred, which he won four times, the Daytona

635
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,319
five hundred, the twenty four hour Daytona, and the twenty

636
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:49,640
four hours of Lamon's. That's pretty freaking impressive.

637
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: That's impressive.

638
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:54,519
Speaker 1: There's no question that George Firth's character is named after

639
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:57,279
this guy as kind of a wink and orknot mister Foyight.

640
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,559
Speaker 2: So you have this cast of crazy characters, right, You've

641
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:05,240
got Jackie Chan and Michael.

642
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: Qui and it's probably not something anything close. It's probably

643
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,599
like Smith right exactly.

644
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:16,759
Speaker 2: You've got Adrian Barbo and Tara Buckman in the Lambo

645
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:17,920
the Lambeo Girls.

646
00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: Yep. Tara Buckman, by the way, was also in Sheriff

647
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:26,000
Lobo and bj and the Bear, which of course were

648
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,480
TV things that were kind of spawned by Smokey in

649
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:30,640
the Bandit. Yeah.

650
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:36,039
Speaker 2: You have Seymour Goldfarb, who thinks he's not James Bond.

651
00:33:36,079 --> 00:33:37,400
He thinks he's Roger Moore.

652
00:33:37,839 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: Right, because you can't say James Bond in the movie

653
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:40,680
You're gonna get.

654
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:45,359
Speaker 2: Sued, That's right. You have the Shekh played by Jamie Farr.

655
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,440
You have Mel Tillis and Terry Bradshaw. Yeah, you've got

656
00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:53,400
Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Junior as priests in a

657
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:56,559
Ferrari doing the Lord's work. Just faster.

658
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,039
Speaker 1: Be Ferrari. By the way, is how Needam's car that

659
00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:02,000
was his actual car?

660
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: So was the ambulance?

661
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,519
Speaker 1: Right, So the ambulance that they use in the Cannonball

662
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:10,239
Run is the same ambulance that Brockyates and how Needam

663
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,119
used to do their actual cannonball race. Say bitch one

664
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,039
they okay? So I said that it goes one hundred

665
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:19,840
and forty five miles an hour. They averaged eighty miles

666
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,719
an hour average That means including stops and phillips and

667
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,280
all of that averaged eighty five miles an hour. Were

668
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,000
completely in the lead, and then the transmission went out

669
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:29,639
and just like in the movie, they had to get

670
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loaded up on the back of a semi truck bed.

671
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Speaker 2: Okay, according to which car dot com, America's most illegal

672
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,480
record has been obliterated. This is May fifteenth, twenty twenty.

673
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:43,559
The Cannonball Run, which had been the record cross country

674
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from Connecticut to California, was twenty eight hours. Now it's

675
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,840
less than twenty six hours. And the reason why is

676
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,840
because everybody was off the road in quarantine. Oh man,

677
00:34:56,039 --> 00:35:00,159
the Cannonball run record has been beaten seven times in

678
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:03,239
the past five weeks. So apparently the Canniball Run is

679
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,840
still alive and well time to be twenty six hours.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, please stick around. We will be right

681
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,280
back after these messages. So a couple other folks that

682
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:16,119
are a little less known. You've got Mad Dog, who

683
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,440
is played by Rick Aviels. But then the other guy

684
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,599
who was riding with him, the no breaks. It's the

685
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:23,239
no breaks gag. It gets him every.

686
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: Time you got the brace.

687
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: That guy was played by Alfie Wise. His character's name

688
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,960
was Batman. I don't think I even knew that. But

689
00:35:32,039 --> 00:35:34,519
you know what else? Alfie Wise was in No Smoky

690
00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:38,360
in the Bandit what you get that piece off my

691
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,320
high way?

692
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,199
Speaker 2: Oh? Are you serious?

693
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, he was like, and it's O there's evidence

694
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:49,559
in a crap? Oh no, give a crap? What it

695
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:50,039
is you.

696
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:56,079
Speaker 2: Get that pieces off my highway? Don't you raise your

697
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,239
voice to me? You know who else? Okay, So we

698
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,400
got Burt Reynolds and Don del Luise, Farah Fawcett and

699
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,199
Jack Elam in the ambulance. Okay, hold on, hold on,

700
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,920
hold on, Sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself.

701
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Speaker 1: Can you say Farah Fawcett.

702
00:36:10,519 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: Again, Farah Fawcet.

703
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,039
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just dwell on that for a moment. Okay,

704
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:17,599
did everybody just think of the poster? Because I'm pretty

705
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,519
sure everybody just thought of the poster right now? Is

706
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:21,159
that what you thought of? That's what I thought of.

707
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: She doesn't want to bra the entire movie either.

708
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you wore brought her entire life. God

709
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,400
bless her.

710
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got Adrian Barbo and Tara Buckman in the Lamborghini,

711
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,960
you've got Roger Moore and a different girl every five seconds.

712
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,639
In the aston Martin, you've got Dean Martin, Sava Davis Junior.

713
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:42,840
In the Ferrari, you've got Jackie Chan and Michael Hui.

714
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,039
And the Suzuki, you've got the Sheikh in a Rolls Royce,

715
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:50,079
You've got mel Tillis and Terry Bradshaw in the Hawaiian

716
00:36:50,119 --> 00:36:50,840
Tropic Car.

717
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,679
Speaker 1: Sorry you take this, keep it. The change leaves comes back,

718
00:36:58,199 --> 00:36:59,280
get a physical.

719
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,039
Speaker 2: I will be back for you, my desert flower. The

720
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:08,280
cast in Kenniball Run is amazing. When I was watching

721
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,639
the commentary, they talked about how at the beginning of

722
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,960
the movie, you've seen the Lamborghini just scream down these

723
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:18,079
roads and it's like Burt Reynolds and then Dom Delawise.

724
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:20,880
It's these single name cards, right that when it was

725
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:24,599
first played like opening night, people started to cheer. I mean,

726
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:27,559
the cast in this movie is amazing.

727
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: Right, And it was. I mean, it was another one

728
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,280
of those that they had these big plans, but it

729
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,320
wasn't until Bert said five million for four weeks. I

730
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,320
don't need to see the script. Once he was in,

731
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,159
everyone else fell into place. You had your rat pat guys,

732
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,400
and the part of Sammy Davis Junior was actually supposed

733
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,840
to be played by Don Rickles at first, but because

734
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,719
Dom Delauise was in the movie and Don Rickles had

735
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,920
this kind of competition going about who was the best

736
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,079
in Las Vegas at the time, he's like, nah, I

737
00:37:57,079 --> 00:37:59,320
don't want to be in that movie. And so Sammy

738
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,559
Davis comes in. You know, it was a Jewish name,

739
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:08,440
Samuel Wurk and uh, because you're small, sam mall.

740
00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:13,039
Speaker 2: God is our co pilot. Where is he gonna sit?

741
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,639
We only got two seats.

742
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,159
Speaker 1: So they make the movie. And after the movie comes out,

743
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,480
Frank Sinatra, who wasn't in the movie, is like, why

744
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,159
didn't I get to be in the movie? Everybody else

745
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:26,280
got the movie. I don't in the movie, So they

746
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,559
put him in. They put him in Part two, which,

747
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:31,320
by the way, Hall Needam said, I was always the

748
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,199
first guy on the set, But when Frank was there

749
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,519
for his shooting, I arrived to the set and he

750
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:38,920
had he was already done with makeup and waiting for me.

751
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:41,519
He's really been on his own little private jet. Did

752
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:44,000
his scene and out like a pro. The chairman of

753
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:48,719
the board Okay, so one super famous guy that you

754
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,679
haven't mentioned yet is Peter Fonda, right right, right right.

755
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,199
Peter Fonda was the leader of the Motorcycle Gang, which

756
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,480
is perfect because not too long before this movie he

757
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:02,519
had done Easy Rider, the motorcycle movie. Right right right.

758
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,320
How Needham's cameraman was actually a friend of Peter Fonda's,

759
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:08,599
and Peter Fonda heard about the movie and said, Hey,

760
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:12,360
could I be in the movie? I mean, this movie

761
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,599
is just about a bunch of these guys getting together

762
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:16,639
and having a good time.

763
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: It really is.

764
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,639
Speaker 1: It's just fun. You don't have to come in with

765
00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:22,159
any expectations. You just get in there and you see

766
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:25,079
them all having fun together, and you're along for the ride.

767
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:26,280
It is wonderful.

768
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,559
Speaker 2: I have fun every time I watch this movie. It's

769
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:31,559
like being a part of a you know, something special.

770
00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: You know.

771
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,599
Speaker 2: It's They talked about how at the hotel they stayed

772
00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:38,199
in every night as a group, they'd wrap up, they'd

773
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,000
get some drinks, they'd watch dailies.

774
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: Uh huh. He would invite the crew to watch the dailies,

775
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,239
which was uncommon. Usually it would just be the actors

776
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,320
watching their own performances in the dailies. But he invited

777
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,840
the crew because he figured, Hey, if the guys who

778
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,360
spent you know, eight hours shooting this scene the day

779
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,360
before are laughing at it, that means that we did

780
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,760
something right. Right exact, if he went into a bar

781
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,760
and some of his crew was in the bar, he

782
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,840
would never let him buy a drink. He was really

783
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,079
a very down to earth director. And then he you know,

784
00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:12,119
we talked about the famous people that he put in there.

785
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:15,880
He had his secretary was in there. She was one

786
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,239
of the people taking the entry cards. The other lady

787
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,559
was Brockiates, his wife. He put his business manager in there.

788
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:26,320
She's the one at the end screaming, help help my baby.

789
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,199
He's drowning. And then you remember the scene where the

790
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,960
two priests where Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Junior are

791
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,960
over there talking about how to pick up the girls

792
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,440
in the bar. Yeah, I was just listening in and

793
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,159
eventually does a spit take. That was his accountant. That

794
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:47,840
was the accountant for the come on, let's come on,

795
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,360
let's just be a part of let's all do this

796
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,559
fun thing together. That is what defines these movies to

797
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:58,000
me is we're not looking at some sort of marvelous, cinematic,

798
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,719
epic thing. We're looking at people getting together and having

799
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,719
a good time and in biting us along for the ride.

800
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Here's something for you to look

801
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,559
for the next time you watch Canniball Run. Okay, the

802
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:14,840
continuity errors with Adrian Barbo zipper. I'm not kidding. When

803
00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:18,480
she's pulled over in Pennsylvania, it's up, it's down, it's up,

804
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:21,599
it's down. She end zips it once. It's it's funny.

805
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: Makes she liked to play with her zipper a little bit.

806
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: That guy who played the cop in Pennsylvania, the guy

807
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,400
that she's dazzling with her zipper is Burt Reynolds stand

808
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,800
in Yeah, and you can tell just by looking at him.

809
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,639
He looked He's got the same mustache, same kind of

810
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:36,639
dark hair, and that was his stand in. Oh, you

811
00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:39,639
know who else is in Cannibal Run. You've got Bianca Jagger,

812
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:42,800
who is Mick Jagger's wife, right, she's sister. You had

813
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Joe Klecko, who played nose tackle or nose guard for

814
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:47,880
the New York Jets.

815
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: He was the guy who's lifting up the van instead

816
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,360
of using the jack and he was actually lifting that van.

817
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,239
That guy was a big mother effort. He was huge.

818
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,079
Speaker 2: He's huge. You have Jimmy the Greek.

819
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, story there along with the political incorrectness of these movies, right,

820
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,559
you get Jimmy the Greek.

821
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: I love it when Sammy Davis Junior comes up and says,

822
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,440
Sir James like calls him, Sir James.

823
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,079
Speaker 1: For some reason, We've got God is our coke pilot.

824
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:17,400
You're gonna need him.

825
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:26,639
Speaker 2: I'm talking about twenty big large ones. Sammy Davis Junior

826
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:28,039
is hilarious in this movie.

827
00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:32,039
Speaker 1: Oh brilliant, just brilliant. Oh all right, everybody, please stick around.

828
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:33,880
We will be right back after these messages.

829
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,559
Speaker 2: All right, let's flit back smugging to Bannon. Okay, So

830
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,760
they make it to text ar caanaon in like ten minutes,

831
00:42:40,039 --> 00:42:44,039
right right, Which is funny because this was not shot

832
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:48,760
in Texas, Canada, Texas. This was shot in Jonesboro, Georgia. Okay,

833
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,039
Cletus's house the place where they shot Cletus's house, Yeah,

834
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:55,559
the warehouse where they pick up all the beer. Yeah,

835
00:42:55,639 --> 00:42:57,760
where they use the forklift where he can drive any

836
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,119
forking thing around. That was about half a mile from

837
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:04,719
that house. Nice, but The first scene I really want

838
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,119
to talk to you about is when Sally Field leaves

839
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:09,800
the wedding, her own wedding. She leaves Junior at the

840
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,920
altar brand it picks her up, they take off, and

841
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,440
the car left behind says just married on it. There's

842
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,719
some vandals that come and show up. Right, my favorite,

843
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:25,119
Jackie Gleason shows up.

844
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:32,199
Speaker 5: Don't you leave, don't get no lunch, don't play with yourself.

845
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,639
You can think about it, but don't do it.

846
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: I'd like, he's such a respected bad ay. He walked

847
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,480
up to the first guy and he's like, you look tired, boy,

848
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:49,039
rest yourself, bars around like immediately spreads him, you know

849
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,719
the nuts. Yeah. Then he walks up and kicks that

850
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,800
guy in the butt and he's like, that wasn't attention

851
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,559
get her? That part is hilarious and it establishes that

852
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,639
Jackie Gleeson is somebody who's serious and not to be

853
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:06,679
messed with, right.

854
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: Right, but also hold out of the car and his tucks.

855
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,960
And it's at that point, you know, it's weird to

856
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:17,280
me that they explain the illegality of transporting Coors beer

857
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,760
across state lines about three times in this movie. Right,

858
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,960
make sure you understand it, but they just kind of

859
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,559
cruise on over the fact that Junior's in the tucks

860
00:44:25,559 --> 00:44:27,679
and that's his bride. It takes. They don't give you

861
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:29,599
that explanation. You just got it. You got to kind

862
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:32,280
of get there, right, which is good. I mean, that's

863
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,199
good that they don't dumb it down for you. But

864
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,679
it's interestingly decided to dumb down the cores things. And

865
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,760
as if anybody couldn't figure that part out.

866
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,159
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a scene where the cops are onto Bandit

867
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:44,320
and he takes them down a country road and he

868
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,440
realizes all the craft the bridge is out, so he says,

869
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:49,480
that's not good. Turns around, cops are coming, he said,

870
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,599
and that's even worse. When he wheels around, he's going

871
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:55,599
to jump this bridge and they hit the spectacular bridge

872
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:59,000
jump in the movie. Yeah, that jump when you see

873
00:44:59,039 --> 00:45:02,400
it on film, that car is so high in the

874
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,280
air it's freaking unbelievable. It's dukes of hazard times ten.

875
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:11,519
Speaker 1: Right, So how Needham has this deal with rockets like

876
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:15,480
that's his special deal. One of the first movies that

877
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:17,639
you see a car flipp it like they had to

878
00:45:17,639 --> 00:45:19,320
try to figure out how to flip a car over

879
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,559
on the beach, right, And you know, normally when you

880
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:24,280
flip a car over, you're going to have to have

881
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,519
like a bush or another car or something like that

882
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,360
to create the ramp so that the car can be flipped.

883
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,159
But they're out trying to do this on the beach

884
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,239
and they don't know how to do it. And so

885
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,119
how Needham says, well, why don't we just put a

886
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:38,480
rocket in the floorboard. And of course how need HM's

887
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:40,559
the stunt man at this point, he's going to car.

888
00:45:41,199 --> 00:45:44,000
They put the rocket in the floorboard. He's driving his

889
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:47,360
car and he says, they hit the rocket and all

890
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,760
of a sudden, I realized I was sixty feet in

891
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,920
the air and going backwards, and I thought, this is

892
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:59,480
not going according to plan. He said the pain was

893
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,239
something that morphine didn't seem to have any effect on.

894
00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:07,039
Speaker 2: This guy is an amazing guy. Like I don't know

895
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:09,480
if we talked off air, Ora, but hell need him

896
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:11,320
is a guy that I would love to have his

897
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,719
life for like a few days. So he man director

898
00:46:15,079 --> 00:46:19,239
tons of Hollywood friends and girls and parties and right, yeah,

899
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:19,920
well that's.

900
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: The interesting social connection because most of the people who

901
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:26,840
were in Cannonball Run. He got to know through like

902
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,159
these Hollywood parties that he would go to with his wife.

903
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:34,840
Like his wife was this actress named Danny Crane who's

904
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,280
just absolutely gorgeous. I mean, she potentially is another Marilyn

905
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,679
Monroe or Jane Mansfield, but she goes to these Hollywood

906
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:46,920
parties and that's how he ends up meeting half of

907
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,639
the people that are in Cannonball Run. And I said

908
00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:53,119
to you earlier, I don't you know, I got nothing

909
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:56,559
to prove this, but I got a strong impression that

910
00:46:56,599 --> 00:46:59,480
there's a lot of there's a lot of swinging.

911
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:05,519
Speaker 2: Happening to Swing, right, Yeah, for sure, a lot of swinging.

912
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,199
Speaker 1: Did you just say this to Swing Yeah, singer Sona.

913
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: Yes, I get the impression that there's some cocaine and

914
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:18,039
swinging for sure. You know, Pontiac gave them four trans

915
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:19,840
ams to use during the course of the film. In

916
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,000
this movie, on that bridge jump, they totally destroyed one car.

917
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had four Pontiac transims. By the way, about

918
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:32,079
four years ago they introduced a bandit special trans am.

919
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:32,679
Do you know about this?

920
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,199
Speaker 2: You send this to me, I want one, I got out.

921
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:41,159
Speaker 1: Oh well, they only made seventy seven of them. How

922
00:47:41,199 --> 00:47:45,239
awesome is that it's seventy seven because the year bandit

923
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,559
came out with seventy seven, it was supposed to be

924
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:50,519
a seventy seven transam, although I think what they did

925
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,440
actually is they put the the front of the seventy

926
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,920
seven on the back or on the car of a

927
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,119
seventy six. But Yeah, by the time this movie was

928
00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:01,960
over all, of all of the four that they had received,

929
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,599
plus a couple of other extra cars had been totally

930
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,000
demolished and like three of them became the parts for

931
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,519
the fourth one that which could still drive down the road.

932
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,039
Speaker 2: Right. I wanted to talk briefly about Fred the bassett Hound.

933
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: And the beauty contest, Yeah, or is it the ugly contest?

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Speaker 2: Ugly contest?

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: So before the movie started, they had a contest to

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bring your dog up for a chance to be in

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the movie, and Burt Realds was the judge, and he

939
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picked Fred the basset hound, who is actually named Happy.

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Picked him chiefly because it refused to obey any commands.

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Speaker 1: Free get on back here.

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Speaker 2: Beauverty Justice was the name of a real Florida Highway

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patrolman known to Burt Reland's father who was once the

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chief of police in Jupiter, Florida. And I also thought

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it was funny that Burt Reynolds dad use the term

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some bad all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some where are you you so much?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember when Jerry Reid was in that episode

949
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of Scooby Doo. It's like the ghost that haunts the

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Grand old Opry and they kidnapped.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Reid and might actually kind of remember that he

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just like opened a drawer and a small cabb on

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the mental mansion that has not been opened in about

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thirty five years? Is what? What did? Yes? I think

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I do remember that.

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Speaker 2: What the way they found him in Scooby Doo was

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They just they told him just to sing and so

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is a chance for him to have this song montage

959
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while they looked around for him?

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Speaker 1: Well it looks like that, does it? For this episode?

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Jason just send the bill to big enis burdett.

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Speaker 2: Uh big big enis verdet uh b uh bu b

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be hell I got to go. We